| mdeslaur | asac: I've added a patch to fix bug #496206 | 00:00 |
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| ubottu | Launchpad bug 496206 in modemmanager "Analog USB modem isn't closed when probing fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/496206 | 00:01 |
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| CTho | pitti: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sudo/+bug/194472/comments/28 it was renamed from "pwstars" to "pwfeedback" | 04:28 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 194472 in sudo "Entering password in Terminal gives no visual feedback" [Unknown,Fix released] | 04:28 |
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| pitti | Good morning | 07:24 |
| didrocks | Guten Morgen pitti | 07:24 |
| pitti | didrocks: gconf sponsoring> seems done now? | 07:24 |
| pitti | bonjour didrocks | 07:25 |
| didrocks | pitti: yeah, now bug #496301 needs love :) | 07:25 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 496301 in ubuntu-netbook-remix-default-settings "Add Ubuntu Netbook Edition session" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/496301 | 07:25 |
| pitti | didrocks: need those sponsored? | 07:29 |
| didrocks | pitti: when you have some time, yes. no hurry though :) | 07:29 |
| didrocks | trying to grab some coffee, bbl | 07:29 |
| pitti | didrocks: followed up, first two debdiffs are incomplete | 08:14 |
| pitti | didrocks: unr-d-s isn't in bzr? | 08:15 |
| didrocks | pitti: there is no svn-bzr tag in control file | 08:15 |
| didrocks | pitti: you are talking about autostart desktop file? You want to handle them in /usr instead avec /etc (as others in etc/xdg/autostart?) | 08:16 |
| pitti | didrocks: well, I suggested considering it | 08:17 |
| pitti | didrocks: for this we'll need maintainer scripts either way, since they are currently in /etc | 08:17 |
| pitti | and need to be moved away from there | 08:17 |
| didrocks | pitti: I guess we can declare those file as not being conffiles (it make little sense for autostart desktop file to be conffiles) | 08:18 |
| pitti | didrocks: that was my question; can we put them into /usr/share/autostart/ from now on? | 08:18 |
| pitti | (or the equivalent UNE-only subpath) | 08:18 |
| pitti | unr-d-s sponsored | 08:19 |
| didrocks | pitti: we can, I need to change my patch in gconf and we can tell that they are there. (but what about existing files in /etc/xdg/autostart, we kept them there?) | 08:19 |
| didrocks | pitti: thanks | 08:19 |
| didrocks | pitti: so, using http://standards.freedesktop.org/autostart-spec/autostart-spec-latest.html, we can try to tweak everytime XDG_CONFIG_DIR to include a new /usr/share/xdg/autostart path and move every .desktop file there? (it would require a lot of changes in gnome-session-properties too) | 08:24 |
| didrocks | XDG_CONFIG_DIRS* | 08:24 |
| pitti | that woudl be weird | 08:25 |
| pitti | didrocks: /usr/share/autostart/ should already be supported (and has been for a long time) | 08:25 |
| didrocks | pitti: or we can add a new cdbs/dh tool to automatically tell that desktop autostart file in /etc/xdg/autostart and /etc/xdg/xdg-session aren't conffiles? | 08:25 |
| pitti | if that's deprecated, then ignore me | 08:25 |
| pitti | no, files in /etc shipped in a .deb are conffiles | 08:25 |
| didrocks | but we can still say "this file in /etc/...." isn't a conffile, right? | 08:26 |
| pitti | no, we shouldn't (and I don't think we can) | 08:26 |
| didrocks | oh right, bad memory so :) | 08:29 |
| didrocks | pitti: ok, I'm adding the code this evening for the conffile move. For the moment, I just propose to keep them in /etc/xdg/xdg-session/autostart if you agree (to not add another rule different from thoses in /etc/xdg/autostart). I've some ideas on lucid+1 for better session management, we can maybe discuss again about that at next UDS. Do you agree? | 08:30 |
| fagan | kenvandine: you around? | 08:30 |
| pitti | didrocks: sounds fine | 08:32 |
| baptistemm | hello | 08:39 |
| chrisccoulson | good morning everyone | 08:39 |
| didrocks | good morning chrisccoulson, baptistemm | 08:40 |
| chrisccoulson | hey didrocks | 08:40 |
| chrisccoulson | how are you? | 08:40 |
| didrocks | fine thanks, and you? You was able to get some sleep this week-end? ;) | 08:41 |
| chrisccoulson | didrocks - yeah, i slept a little :) | 08:41 |
| chrisccoulson | and i even managed to do a couple of merges last night ;) | 08:42 |
| pitti | hey chrisccoulson | 08:44 |
| chrisccoulson | hey pitti, how are you? | 08:44 |
| seb128 | good morning desktopland | 08:49 |
| chrisccoulson | hey seb128, how are you? | 08:50 |
| seb128 | hello chrisccoulson, good, thank you | 08:50 |
| seb128 | what about you? | 08:50 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, good thanks. we had some visitors all weekend | 08:52 |
| seb128 | so your plan to get some sleep failed this weekend? | 08:53 |
| chrisccoulson | i got a reasonable amount of sleep ;) | 08:53 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - any chance we could have liboobs and gnome-system-tools in the desktop package set? | 08:55 |
| didrocks | lut seb128 :) | 08:56 |
| seb128 | 'lu didrocks | 08:56 |
| seb128 | ca va? | 08:56 |
| didrocks | seb128: ça va bien, dernière semaine à DS \o/ et toi? | 08:57 |
| pitti | chrisccoulson: I don't think we can define them individually; I guess they are also used in xubuntu and other places | 08:57 |
| pitti | bonjour seb128 | 08:57 |
| seb128 | ca va bien, dernière semaine à Canonical pour 2009 ;-) | 08:57 |
| chrisccoulson | pitti - oh, ok. i wasn't aware of that | 08:57 |
| didrocks | :-) | 08:57 |
| seb128 | hey pitti | 08:57 |
| seb128 | didrocks, pitti: how are you? | 08:58 |
| * seb128 clean his inbox and curses the spammers | 08:58 | |
| pitti | seb128: pretty good, had a relaxing weekend (big family event, 50th bday of my mother-in-law) | 09:00 |
| seb128 | nice! ;-) | 09:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, bug #496025 is probably for you | 09:15 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 496025 in cheese "Web cam not detected by cheese on Dell Mini 10v" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/496025 | 09:15 |
| seb128 | pitti, oh, it's fixed in git | 09:16 |
| seb128 | it has been ported to gudev | 09:16 |
| pitti | seb128: right, I saw the bug | 09:17 |
| pitti | oh, nice! | 09:17 |
| * seb128 comment on the bug | 09:17 | |
| pitti | it seems to miss a dependency right now | 09:17 |
| seb128 | yes | 09:17 |
| seb128 | do you want me to do a git snapshot rather? | 09:17 |
| tjaalton | pitti: could you sync xserver-xorg-input-evdev from experimental, thanks. new upstream version, should fix some crashes | 09:17 |
| pitti | tjaalton: done | 09:19 |
| seb128 | didrocks, yet another gconf path? :-( | 09:20 |
| seb128 | and additional Xsession.d file? | 09:21 |
| didrocks | seb128: yes, for une session as we discussed before (populating ENV_MANDATORY_PATH) | 09:21 |
| tjaalton | pitti: great, thx | 09:21 |
| seb128 | didrocks, alright... | 09:22 |
| seb128 | I'm trying to reduce the number of things to Xsession.d | 09:22 |
| seb128 | not to add new ones, but I guess it will not impact on speed a lot | 09:22 |
| didrocks | seb128: I understand, but I guess it was better than patching gconf code to behave depending on GDMSESSION variable, isn't? | 09:23 |
| seb128 | yes probably | 09:23 |
| seb128 | though I'm not even sure having the variable depending on the session is correct | 09:23 |
| seb128 | there is no real reason GNOME should behave differently if started with gdm or not | 09:23 |
| didrocks | seb128: the idea is more "you want the "Y" session with those autostart files and those gconf settings" | 09:24 |
| seb128 | well I'm not convinced that GNOME should have different settings depending on how it's started | 09:25 |
| seb128 | out of UNE which is not a GNOME session | 09:25 |
| didrocks | that can be used in gnome-stracciatella too (instead of patching applications to tell "start only if you have this GDMSESSION variable") | 09:26 |
| seb128 | I guess not too many users will fiddle with that | 09:29 |
| seb128 | still can be pretty confusing to have GNOME configuration changing under your feet for no apparent reason just because you started it differently | 09:30 |
| didrocks | I totally agree with that, it will be very little used. Not a lot of users will use that | 09:30 |
| asac | pitti: we added two packages to the desktop seed for armel on friday ... what are the steps to do now? upload meta package and then promotion or v.v. | 11:16 |
| * asac thought that the meta package gets automatically uploaded when seed changes | 11:16 | |
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| seb128 | yeah, I'm done with weekend email backlog before lunch | 11:33 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - \o/ | 11:34 |
| pitti | asac: no, you need to do that manually | 11:47 |
| pitti | asac: download, ./update, edit changelog, upload | 11:48 |
| asac | ok. guess we have to wait for promotion first. | 11:58 |
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| seb128 | mvo, hey, is software-center known to not start on alpha1? | 13:59 |
| mvo | seb128: no, I uploaded some changes today, it might be failing because of that? | 14:01 |
| mvo | seb128: what is the error? | 14:01 |
| seb128 | mvo, no, that's a stock alpha1 install | 14:01 |
| seb128 | no upgrade yet | 14:01 |
| mvo | oh | 14:01 |
| seb128 | mvo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/341180/ | 14:02 |
| mvo | seb128: right, silly mistake, but fixed | 14:02 |
| seb128 | ok thanks | 14:02 |
| seb128 | I just reinstalled the mini with fresh alpha and I wanted to use software-center to install bootchart | 14:03 |
| mvo | seb128: let me know if you still have issues after a update | 14:03 |
| seb128 | but that's a fail there ;-) | 14:03 |
| seb128 | mvo, ok, upgrading now | 14:03 |
| * mvo nods | 14:03 | |
| mvo | thanks | 14:03 |
| seb128 | mvo, works now, thanks | 14:04 |
| mvo | cool | 14:06 |
| mvo | thanks | 14:06 |
| mpt | mvo, http://paste.ubuntu.com/341199/ | 14:28 |
| mvo | mpt: did you update to the latest aptdaemon in lucid? | 14:28 |
| mpt | mvo, no, this is on 9.10 | 14:29 |
| mpt | mvo, "trunk won't work on 9.10 from now on" is quite acceptable as an answer :-) | 14:29 |
| mvo | mpt: oh, ok - hm, then I think I need to upload a atdaemon for karmic into the software-center ppa | 14:29 |
| mpt | I can install alpha 1 on my other partition | 14:29 |
| mvo | mpt: I uploaded it to ppa:software-store-developers/ppa | 14:33 |
| mvo | mpt: I let you know when it build | 14:33 |
| mpt | thanks mvo | 14:33 |
| mvo | mpt: in a few minutes "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:software-store-developers/ppa; sudo apt-get update" should work | 14:35 |
| * mvo is still waiting for the "accepted" mail | 14:35 | |
| fagan | mvo: the software store ppa doesnt have an amd64 build in lucid | 14:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, kenvandine can't upload new sources | 14:40 |
| seb128 | pitti, ie the indicator needs sponsoring | 14:40 |
| seb128 | (I can do it if you want) | 14:40 |
| kenvandine | did you guys finish reviewing the changes? | 14:41 |
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| seb128 | I just read a reply from pitti on the ubuntu-archive list | 14:41 |
| seb128 | saying to upload | 14:41 |
| kenvandine | ah... ok... damn evolution message threading :) | 14:41 |
| kenvandine | seb128, sponsoring would be great :) | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | thx | 14:42 |
| fagan | oh kenvandine is the rgba stuff from the desktop teams ppa causing some stuff to crash in lucid? | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | yes | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | the same error you sent to the list | 14:42 |
| fagan | Oh cool | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | fagan, thx for testing | 14:42 |
| kenvandine | hopefully we will get a fix this week | 14:42 |
| * kenvandine glares at bratsche | 14:43 | |
| kenvandine | who isn't around :) | 14:43 |
| seb128 | note that I'm on vac after this week | 14:43 |
| fagan | mail the list and ill test it when you have it uploaded | 14:43 |
| seb128 | so it's probably this week or next year | 14:43 |
| seb128 | upload to lucid I mean | 14:43 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, the new indicator-session failed to build btw | 14:46 |
| seb128 | basically none of the thing you updated made it to lucid yet | 14:46 |
| seb128 | do you need some help to sort that? | 14:47 |
| mvo | fagan: thanks, I think jcastro might have a idea why | 14:49 |
| kenvandine | seb128, yeah... well it is weird | 14:50 |
| kenvandine | it can't install libindicator0 | 14:50 |
| kenvandine | which is available in lucid | 14:50 |
| seb128 | right the binary went to universe | 14:50 |
| kenvandine | oh! | 14:50 |
| seb128 | I've promoted it now | 14:50 |
| kenvandine | thx | 14:50 |
| kenvandine | that will fix it :) | 14:50 |
| seb128 | I will retry builds after next publisher run | 14:50 |
| kenvandine | thx | 14:50 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, when you get new binaries please tell us what should go to main now that you upload | 14:51 |
| seb128 | that will smooth such issues | 14:51 |
| seb128 | I used to tweak those while doing the sponsoring | 14:51 |
| kenvandine | ok, i had mentioned it because it went into NEW | 14:51 |
| seb128 | ok, I didn't read about it | 14:51 |
| kenvandine | hey rickspencer3! | 14:51 |
| seb128 | next time feel free to ping me about it | 14:51 |
| kenvandine | sure | 14:51 |
| seb128 | hello rickspencer3 | 14:51 |
| seb128 | I will retry indicator-messages and indicator-session | 14:52 |
| kenvandine | thx | 14:52 |
| rickspencer3 | good morning | 14:52 |
| seb128 | will that be enough for lucid to upgrade? | 14:52 |
| fagan | morning rickspencer3 | 14:52 |
| seb128 | or do we need the new source too? | 14:52 |
| kenvandine | do we manually need to retry those builds? | 14:52 |
| kenvandine | they will work | 14:52 |
| rickspencer3 | hi fagan | 14:52 |
| seb128 | yes | 14:52 |
| kenvandine | they built file in pbuilder and for karmic in the ppa | 14:52 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, the system depwait when a build depends is not available | 14:52 |
| seb128 | but in this case the -dev was, but the lib was in universe | 14:52 |
| kenvandine | seb128, yeah i got a bunch of the FTBS emails over the weekend | 14:53 |
| seb128 | and main builders can't use universe | 14:53 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 14:53 |
| kenvandine | someone must have been retrying them over the weekend | 14:53 |
| seb128 | it's possible | 14:53 |
| seb128 | some of the buildd admins kick rebuild for installability issues | 14:53 |
| didrocks | hey rickspencer3 | 14:54 |
| pitti | hey rickspencer3, good morning kenvandine | 14:54 |
| pitti | kenvandine, seb128: I retried them this morning upon geser's request; I didn't check | 14:55 |
| seb128 | ok | 14:55 |
| seb128 | I've promoted the binary now | 14:55 |
| seb128 | will retry after next publisher | 14:55 |
| rickspencer3 | hi didrocks | 14:55 |
| geser | pitti, seb128: sorry for any trouble, I did check them in my builder if they build but didn't check the compontents | 15:00 |
| seb128 | geser, don't worry that's minor trouble | 15:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, is the guest session working in lucid for you? | 15:03 |
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| pitti | seb128: no, the X server crashes | 16:00 |
| pitti | I guess for you too? | 16:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, yes | 16:00 |
| seb128 | pitti, I just wanted to check if somebody else had the issue too, thanks | 16:00 |
| mpt | mvo, the PPA version of aptdaemon Breaks the Karmic version of software-center, and the PPA doesn't include a new version of software-center itself | 16:13 |
| mpt | mvo, so it's probably just easier for me to install Lucid :-) | 16:13 |
| mvo | mpt: hm, ok | 16:20 |
| mvo | mpt: I uploaded a software-center snapshot there now too :) | 16:20 |
| mpt | thanks mvo! | 16:20 |
| mvo | mpt: its still a good idea to run lucid, but at least you should be able to test it under both systems (and I'm sure other will use the ppa too :) | 16:21 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, new indicator-messages and session built now | 16:32 |
| seb128 | on i386 at least | 16:32 |
| kenvandine | seb128, excellent, thx! | 16:32 |
| seb128 | they will be in the next publisher run | 16:32 |
| baptistemm | hi there | 16:39 |
| seb128 | hey baptistemm | 16:40 |
| baptistemm | how safe it is to switch to lucid? no big breakage ? | 16:40 |
| baptistemm | salut seb128 | 16:40 |
| baptistemm | I didn't had time to work on nautilus SRU | 16:40 |
| baptistemm | :/ | 16:40 |
| seb128 | don't bother with that one, I'm not even sure there is changes worth a sru there | 16:40 |
| seb128 | I did the lucid update | 16:40 |
| seb128 | lucid, still early unstable, works fine now but there is rough edges and things might break on the way | 16:41 |
| baptistemm | seb128, okay as usual for a dev version | 16:41 |
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| and471 | could someone take a screenshot of a new mail notification from evolution? (with notify-osd installed) | 17:01 |
| seb128 | can't you do that? | 17:02 |
| mvo | hey and471! | 17:02 |
| and471 | mvo, hullo | 17:02 |
| and471 | seb128, I have been trying to configure evolution but it is annoying me | 17:02 |
| and471 | mvo: once my exams are over, I have some interesting changes for the css / html we are using :-) | 17:03 |
| mac_v | and471: the new mail notification? in lucid or larmic? | 17:04 |
| mac_v | karmic* | 17:04 |
| and471 | mac_v, I prefer in larmic please :-) | 17:04 |
| and471 | mac_v, it doesn't really matter I am joking | 17:04 |
| mac_v | and471: all it will say is "N new mail" | 17:05 |
| and471 | just need to know what it looks like so I can nick the layout for thunderbird :-) | 17:05 |
| and471 | mac_v, no summary of the message or subject? | 17:05 |
| mac_v | nope | 17:05 |
| and471 | mac_v, oh :-) | 17:05 |
| and471 | mac_v, well that was easy :-) | 17:05 |
| mac_v | and471: also N will most probably be wrong when mails arrives in several folders | 17:05 |
| and471 | thanks | 17:05 |
| mac_v | np | 17:06 |
| and471 | back to revision :-) | 17:06 |
| and471 | :-( | 17:06 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, when a user does a fresh install, and tries to play an mp3 in rhythm box, does rhythm box prompt to install codecs? and if so, what package does it suggest? | 17:16 |
| seb128 | rickspencer3, it should yes, right now I think all the availables choices | 17:18 |
| seb128 | ie typically gst-plugins-ugly and gst-ffmpeg | 17:18 |
| rickspencer3 | seb128, what about *-restricted-extras? | 17:23 |
| seb128 | how is that used by gstreamer to play anything? | 17:23 |
| rickspencer3 | I dunno | 17:23 |
| rickspencer3 | I assumed it had codecs that gstreamer needed | 17:23 |
| seb128 | well the depends system will pull in libraries used by the codecs | 17:23 |
| rickspencer3 | at least, when I install it, I can play mp3s in rhythm box | 17:24 |
| seb128 | it's not so crude | 17:24 |
| seb128 | gstreamer reports what elements are missing exactly | 17:24 |
| seb128 | and we install the packages which provide those | 17:24 |
| seb128 | that's not specific to mp3 or mpeg or anything | 17:25 |
| seb128 | it should work with any format or codec | 17:25 |
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| fagan | mvo: is there any plans to sort programs in the installed programs section of the software center by when they were installed? | 17:45 |
| fagan | I think it would be useful | 17:45 |
| mvo | fagan: not currently, but I'm sure mpt is interessted in this isea | 17:46 |
| mvo | idea | 17:46 |
| mvo | fagan: we currently have not very good support for the notion of when it got installed though | 17:46 |
| mvo | but we are working on it | 17:46 |
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| pitti | good night everyone! | 18:30 |
| chrisccoulson | 'night pitti | 18:30 |
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| gabaug | Keybuk: is HAL going to be completely removed for Lucid? | 20:16 |
| Keybuk | it's already removed from the CD | 20:17 |
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| chrisccoulson | hey seb128 | 21:07 |
| seb128 | hi chrisccoulson | 21:07 |
| seb128 | how are you? | 21:07 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - yeah, not too bad thanks, but it's been a long day today | 21:08 |
| chrisccoulson | how are you? | 21:08 |
| seb128 | good thanks | 21:08 |
| seb128 | the day has been busy too there | 21:08 |
| seb128 | I'm just back from sport and dinner | 21:08 |
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| geser | seb128: could you please also give-back indicator-applet as you(?) promoted the missing lib to main. thanks | 21:22 |
| seb128 | geser, will do | 21:22 |
| seb128 | geser, done now | 21:28 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - i will have a couple of packages ready for sponsoring shortly (if you have time) | 21:29 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, which ones? | 21:30 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - liboobs and gnome-system-tools | 21:30 |
| seb128 | ok | 21:30 |
| seb128 | you can't upload those? | 21:30 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - it doesn't look like it (http://paste.ubuntu.com/341448/) | 21:32 |
| seb128 | could you try asking to cjwatson on #ubuntu-devel? | 21:32 |
| seb128 | if he knows why you can't upload those | 21:32 |
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| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ? | 21:38 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, do you know if pitti did the new indicator-application sponsoring? | 21:41 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i don't think he did | 21:41 |
| seb128 | hum k | 21:41 |
| seb128 | let me look at that now | 21:41 |
| kenvandine | seb128, i thought you were :) | 21:41 |
| seb128 | I asked pitti if he was going to do it or if I should | 21:42 |
| seb128 | and he didn't reply | 21:42 |
| seb128 | and I forgot about it | 21:42 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - sorry, i had to disappear quickly there;) | 21:43 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, oh no problem don't worry | 21:43 |
| seb128 | I was just not sure you did read my lines since I didn't highlight you | 21:43 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i just read them now | 21:43 |
| seb128 | I tend to miss things people write due to that sometime ;-) | 21:44 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i sometimes miss things too ;) | 21:46 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, is indicator-application of any use right now in lucid? | 21:56 |
| kenvandine | yes | 21:56 |
| seb128 | like anything using it or activating it in the default install? | 21:56 |
| kenvandine | yeah, rhythmbox | 21:56 |
| seb128 | well the ppa version, not the lucid one | 21:56 |
| chrisccoulson | another indicator? | 21:56 |
| kenvandine | i will upload the patch after indicator-application lands | 21:56 |
| seb128 | it will autoactivate? | 21:56 |
| kenvandine | yes | 21:56 |
| seb128 | ok | 21:56 |
| seb128 | I'm pondering doing the newing now or waiting for pitti to do it tomorrow | 21:57 |
| kenvandine | i didn't want yet another thing to be in depwait :) | 21:57 |
| kenvandine | tomorrow is fine | 21:57 |
| seb128 | pitti did review the updated bzr right? | 21:57 |
| kenvandine | i just have to get rb uploaded by wed | 21:57 |
| kenvandine | yes | 21:57 |
| seb128 | ok, let me new that now | 21:57 |
| kenvandine | thx | 21:57 |
| seb128 | did pitti said anything about mir? | 21:57 |
| seb128 | say | 21:57 |
| seb128 | like should it be sent to universe, mired, etc | 21:58 |
| seb128 | or should we send it direct to main and do paper work later? | 21:58 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, hey | 21:59 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, hey | 21:59 |
| kenvandine | seb128, he didn't actually | 22:01 |
| kenvandine | send it to universe | 22:01 |
| seb128 | ok | 22:01 |
| seb128 | we can as well wait tomorrow morning european time | 22:01 |
| kenvandine | i'll address the mir tomorrow | 22:01 |
| seb128 | feel free to upload rhythmbox | 22:01 |
| seb128 | we will get things sorted before you are up tomorrow | 22:01 |
| kenvandine | well that would depend on stuff in universe then :) | 22:02 |
| kenvandine | ok | 22:02 |
| seb128 | I guess it can build without it | 22:02 |
| kenvandine | will do | 22:02 |
| kenvandine | no, it adds the build-depends | 22:02 |
| seb128 | ok good | 22:02 |
| kenvandine | but atleast it will be uploaded :) | 22:02 |
| seb128 | right and if it will build as soon as we sort the newing, etc | 22:03 |
| seb128 | I will suggest to pitti to promote directly and do the paper work later | 22:04 |
| seb128 | is anybody wanting to do the evolution-data-server, evolution, evolution-exchange updates? | 22:04 |
| seb128 | bonus for rebasing on debian, evolution-data-server should be trivial to rebase | 22:04 |
| seb128 | evolution-exchange too | 22:04 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, ^? ;-) | 22:04 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, when do you think that your updates will be ready for upload? | 22:05 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - liboobs is in bzr and ready to go | 22:06 |
| kenvandine | seb128, uploaded rhythmbox | 22:06 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, thanks | 22:06 |
| * kenvandine heads down to spend some time with the family, good night folks! | 22:06 | |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok, sponsoring that now | 22:06 |
| chrisccoulson | g-s-t is in bzr too, but i'm just checking the build log here | 22:06 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, have fun, see you tomorrow | 22:06 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok | 22:06 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, what am I looking at? | 22:08 |
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| seb128 | robert_ancell, a screen? | 22:08 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, my screen starts at "kenvandine, is indicator-application of any use right now in lucid?" | 22:08 |
| seb128 | robert_ancell, oh, the lines just before | 22:09 |
| seb128 | the "is there anybody wanting to rebase and update evo" | 22:09 |
| seb128 | in case you would be interested ;-) | 22:09 |
| robert_ancell | *cough* hell no | 22:09 |
| seb128 | ok, was worth a try ;-) | 22:09 |
| robert_ancell | I'm sorry, I'm in OEM this cycle | 22:09 |
| seb128 | yeah sure | 22:09 |
| seb128 | doesn't hurt to ask | 22:10 |
| seb128 | you did some complicates ones recently | 22:10 |
| seb128 | so I was not sure how you were balancing your load | 22:10 |
| seb128 | and using you 20% desktop too | 22:10 |
| seb128 | but fair enough ;-) | 22:10 |
| chrisccoulson | is evo a big task then? | 22:10 |
| chrisccoulson | ;) | 22:10 |
| robert_ancell | I'm trying to do more OEM and less desktop. | 22:10 |
| seb128 | no, e-d-s is probably half an hour work | 22:11 |
| seb128 | evolution-exchange like a few minutes I would say | 22:11 |
| robert_ancell | seb128, I was looking at gnome-panel yesterday. there's some odd blocking that goes on | 22:11 |
| seb128 | evo is probably easy to update but might be harder to rebase | 22:11 |
| seb128 | it's just that I'm trying to finish lot of things before end of year | 22:11 |
| seb128 | and I still want to look at nautilus start this week | 22:12 |
| seb128 | so I was trying to figure if somebody was interested by those | 22:12 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - i think g-s-t is ready to go now as well | 22:13 |
| seb128 | chrisccoulson, ok cool | 22:13 |
| chrisccoulson | that ones a bit more complicated :) | 22:14 |
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| chrisccoulson | the indicator applets showing "No indicators" is expected at the moment is it? | 23:07 |
| seb128 | which one? | 23:10 |
| seb128 | tedg, ^ | 23:10 |
| chrisccoulson | seb128 - both of them show that at the moment | 23:10 |
| Sarvatt | ohh *thats* why I have that extra panel space all of the sudden :D | 23:11 |
| chrisccoulson | Sarvatt - extra panel space? | 23:11 |
| chrisccoulson | the text takes up more space here ;) | 23:11 |
| tedg | seb128: chrisccoulson: Hmm, that'd be a surprise. | 23:12 |
| chrisccoulson | i'm confused by all this indicator stuff | 23:12 |
| chrisccoulson | the package names are all too similar ;) | 23:13 |
| tedg | You could look at /usr/lib/indicators/3/ and see if there is any *.so in there. | 23:13 |
| chrisccoulson | tedg - yeah, there are 2 so files in there | 23:13 |
| tedg | Hmm, that's odd. | 23:14 |
| chrisccoulson | libmessaging.so and libsession.so | 23:14 |
| chrisccoulson | slangasek is seeing the same issue too | 23:14 |
| tedg | chrisccoulson: What is the version on teh about dialog of indicator-applet? | 23:14 |
| Sarvatt | the "no indicators" words are the same color as my panel, just looked blank | 23:14 |
| chrisccoulson | tedg - 0.1 | 23:15 |
| tedg | chrisccoulson: Hmm, that's the problem. It should be 0.3.0 :) | 23:15 |
| tedg | I wonder if that didn't get into Lucid. | 23:15 |
| seb128 | tedg, you screwed the packaging there... | 23:15 |
| tedg | seb128: ? | 23:16 |
| seb128 | tedg, it did but things build in order and I just kicked this back some hours ago | 23:16 |
| chrisccoulson | i might be using an out-of-date mirror perhaps | 23:16 |
| seb128 | tedg, if some component update breaks the indicator it should have Breaks | 23:16 |
| seb128 | use Breaks: indicator-applet (<< 0.3) | 23:16 |
| seb128 | otherwise you get what you have now | 23:17 |
| tedg | seb128: Oh, okay. I didn't know about Breaks | 23:17 |
| tedg | That actually solves a bunch of problems. | 23:17 |
| seb128 | you can use Conflicts too | 23:17 |
| seb128 | but Breaks is the correct on there | 23:17 |
| Sarvatt | is fsck on boot causing a failsafe x start 100% of the time for anyone else? | 23:18 |
| seb128 | kenvandine, ^ the Breaks comment might be useful for you too | 23:18 |
| seb128 | Sarvatt, dunno I don't have fsck running that often | 23:21 |
| seb128 | never got xorg failing due to it though | 23:21 |
| Sarvatt | sudo tune2fs -C 100 /dev/sda1 then reboot puts me in failsafe 100% of the time here | 23:23 |
| Sarvatt | and failsafe is using vesa which doesnt work with KMS for me | 23:23 |
| seb128 | I think #ubuntu-x was discussing vesa and kms before | 23:24 |
| seb128 | oh I see you discussed that there | 23:24 |
| Sarvatt | yeah we're talking about it in there, i switched it to fbdev which works with KMS but fbdev doesnt work for some people, just seems like a gdm init problem outside of the whole vesa thing so I was asking in here | 23:26 |
| seb128 | not idea about that right now, it would require some debugging | 23:26 |
| Sarvatt | I get this from the gdm log when it starts after the fsck http://paste.ubuntu.com/341495/ | 23:26 |
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