[03:02] <maco> Flannel: remember that person who would say "orgy" in #ubuntu?
[03:02] <Flannel> maco: Yep
[03:02] <maco> well, Muddleworth just PM'd me "orgy"
[03:02] <Flannel> Doesn't seem to be in any channels.
[03:03] <maco> oh disconnected already
[03:03] <maco> grr. that day they were doing that and theyd say it in PM with all different nicks? theyd say it and disconnect immediately
[03:03] <maco> so i cant get a /whois on them
[03:04] <Flannel> You can get a whowas though
[03:04] <maco> * [Whowas] Muddleworth was n=Muddlewo@75-119-247-25.dsl.teksavvy.com (Markypants)
[03:05] <maco> if they continue from the same host, is it something to bug freenode staff about, since theyre not in any ubuntu channels?
[03:05] <maco> or just ignore it
[03:06] <Flannel> just ignore it
[04:51] <cheeko> squ1d: u suck
[04:51] <maco> well that's not very nice
[04:53] <squ1d> Yea cheeko
[04:53] <squ1d> NOT NICE
[04:53] <Roasted> Dear friends. I am banned in Kubuntu. I am extremely sorry I was an asshole. I would like my ban lifted if at all possible.
[04:53] <Roasted> :)
[04:53] <cheeko> i know
[04:55] <squ1d> Nooo, You will remain banned...for it is the way of the comanche
[04:55] <Roasted> But, please. :(
[04:55] <Roasted> I'll be good. I swear.
[04:55] <squ1d> Roasted
[04:55] <Roasted> yes?
[04:55] <squ1d> I'm just a regular jackoff
[04:55] <cheeko> u have been very naughty cheeko
[04:56] <squ1d> cheeko I might have to spank you
[04:56] <cheeko> awww that hurts
[04:56] <cheeko> please stop
[04:56] <squ1d> cheeko are you a guy
[04:57] <cheeko> cheeko means guy
[04:57] <cheeko> in spanish
[04:57] <Roasted> tsimpson - please unban me. I'll be good.
[04:57] <maco> Roasted: do you know who placed your ban?
[04:57] <Roasted> tsimpson
[04:57] <squ1d> Irony
[04:57] <Roasted> how so
[04:57] <maco> cheeko, squ1d: do you have a purpose here?
[04:58] <squ1d> Not really;
[04:58] <squ1d> I was being nice until cheeko came in
[04:58]  * maco points to /topic
[04:58] <cheeko> even im being nice squ1d
[04:58] <Roasted> maco what can I do about my ban in Kubuntu?
[04:59] <maco> Roasted: wait for tsimpson to come back
[04:59] <maco> Roasted: then discuss it with him
[04:59] <Roasted> :(
[04:59] <squ1d> maco whats your purpose here?
[04:59] <maco> squ1d: i'm on the ops team :P
[05:00] <squ1d> oh okay as you are;
[05:00] <squ1d> How can one join this 'ops' team you speak of
[05:00] <squ1d> xD
[05:01] <maco> one day i was told "hey guess what? you're an op in $channel"
[05:01] <squ1d> and actually I do have a grievance, other then being a jerkoff
[05:01] <maco> with whom?
[05:01] <squ1d> someone needs to deal with _brady in offtopic
[05:02] <maco> not one of the channels i have ops in. lets see who's around
[05:02] <squ1d> he was being well a troll ealier
[05:02] <cheeko> even atomicspark
[05:02] <maco> Flannel: you around?
[05:02] <Flannel> maco: what's up?
[05:02] <squ1d> atom is okay
[05:03] <Roasted> someone wake up tsimpson :(
[05:03] <maco> Flannel: are you watching -ot?
[05:03] <Flannel> No, I'm in a LoCo meeting
[05:03] <Roasted> do you guys get paid
[05:03] <squ1d> No
[05:03] <maco> Roasted: no, we're volunteers
[05:03] <cheeko> even i want to be a volunterr
[05:03] <squ1d> they volunteer so cranvical doesn't have to pay people
[05:04] <maco> hrmm who else watches that channel...
[05:04] <maco> gord: ?
[05:04] <squ1d> maco whats your channel?
[05:05] <maco> squ1d: kubuntu
[05:05] <squ1d> can I troll it for you?
[05:05] <maco> no thanks
[05:06] <maco> Amaranth: ping
[05:06] <squ1d> maco does that mean you take KDE over gnome
[05:06] <maco> yes
[05:06] <cheeko> hey maco even i want to be a volunteer
[05:07] <Roasted> <3 KDE
[05:07] <Roasted> <3 Kubuntu
[05:07] <Roasted> just wish I could get into kubuntu :(
[05:07] <squ1d> Cheeko; no volunteering for you
[05:07] <maco> cheeko: i cant make people ops, and it requires having been around a while. i was here 3yr before i was poked
[05:07] <cheeko> ok
[05:08] <squ1d> maco; Can I join a different loco team if the one around here does nothing
[05:08] <Roasted> maco can you make people unbanned?
[05:09] <cheeko> hey Roasted ill send all the happenin thins as an log
[05:09] <cheeko> in kubuntu
[05:09] <Roasted> why, I cant get in kubuntu
[05:09] <Amaranth> maco: pong
[05:09] <cheeko> but u said u cant get in kubuntu
[05:10] <Roasted> right...
[05:10] <Roasted> I'm confused?
[05:10] <Amaranth> cheeko, squ1d: Can I help you with something?
[05:10] <maco> Amaranth: is brady_ seeming disruptive to you?
[05:10] <maco> Roasted: we dont remove other ops bans
[05:11] <maco> Roasted: so you need to talk to tsimpson
[05:11] <Roasted> maco - understandable
[05:11] <Roasted> maco - can you at least see the status of my ban? In terms of how long it is or anything.
[05:11] <squ1d> So you cant site idly in ops?
[05:11] <squ1d> sit*
[05:12] <maco> squ1d: right
[05:12] <maco> Roasted: i dont have bantracker access. Amaranth?
[05:12] <cheeko> too bad maco
[05:12] <Amaranth> @login
[05:13] <squ1d> Well I'm idle because I'm making my bed; can someone kick me from ops?
[05:14] <Amaranth> Roasted: Checking now to see if there are any notes
[05:14] <Roasted> thanks bro
[05:15] <Amaranth> Roasted: Hmm, I see a large number of kicks and bans from several channels along with notes on how uncooperative you were when discussing the issue originall
[05:15] <Amaranth> +y
[05:15] <Amaranth> But no notes on a timespan so I guess that is still up to tsimpson
[05:15] <Roasted> I was only uncooperative due to the nature in which I got banned.
[05:16] <Amaranth> (note: those kicks and bans go back over the last year)
[05:16] <Roasted> Talking about Kubuntu in Kubuntu and being told I'm off topic sounds clear to me that somebody is using their ban priviledges beyond what a moderator should be using them.
[05:16] <Roasted> As a result, I make them aware of it.
[05:17] <Amaranth> Were you asking for help with Kubuntu or helping someone with Kubuntu?
[05:17] <Roasted> I was helping somebody with Kubuntu.
[05:17] <Roasted> They asked me a question about something else, still within Kubuntu, and I was told I was being off topic.
[05:17] <Roasted> It was pretty obvious that somebody wasn't thinking clearly when they said that, because several others were like, uh really?
[05:17] <Amaranth> Roasted: No, you weren't helping someone
[05:18] <Amaranth> You were ranting about gnome-shell
[05:18] <Roasted> Amaranth - I've ranted about gnome-shell, yes. But when I got banned from Kubuntu I was talking about Kubuntu.
[05:18] <Roasted> Unless I'm getting conversations mixed up?
[05:18] <Amaranth> Roasted: I'm looking at a log
[05:18] <squ1d> Someone kick me  I can not leave for some reason.
[05:18] <Roasted> squ1d - the X int he corner doesnt work bro? :P
[05:18] <maco> squ1d: /part
[05:19] <Amaranth> Roasted: You weren't helping someone, you were being sarcastic about the rules by directing someone with a question about using samba with (k)ubuntu to a samba channel
[05:20] <Roasted> Amaranth - Yeah, that was another story in itself, with a mod telling me to go to the samba channel with nobody in it to ask for help.
[05:20] <Roasted> Pretty comical, if you ask me.
[05:20] <Amaranth> Roasted: If no one is answering a question about samba or something like that we tend to point them to a project specific channel
[05:21] <Roasted> and that's completely understandable.
[05:21] <Amaranth> But that isn't what you were doing
[05:21] <Amaranth> But I'll let you discuss all of this with tsimpson, it is up to him to decide what to do
[05:21] <Roasted> But when I'm told deliberately that I'm off topic for asking about SAMBA in an UBUNTU chat (as if they have nothing whatsoever in common) and told to leave while on topic of Samba, that just screams I'm abusing my powers.
[05:22] <Roasted> I wonder where he's hiding at. :(
[05:22] <Amaranth> Sleeping, I suspect
[05:22] <Roasted> :(
[05:23] <Roasted> Kind of sucks, cause I have a Kubuntu question I'd like to ask right about - now.
[05:23] <maco> it's ok to ask a kubuntu question in #ubuntu
[05:23] <Amaranth> eh
[05:24] <Amaranth> If it's KDE specific you'll probably just get pointed to #kubuntu, honestly
[05:24] <maco> i mean, might not be as many people who know how to answer
[05:24] <maco> but its acceptable
[05:25] <Roasted> maco - lol? Is that a serious comment?
[05:25] <Roasted> maco - you might want to check the rules there, cause that was another thing I got yelled at for the other day. Asked a question in ubuntu about kubuntu since I was banned.
[05:25] <maco> ive seen xubuntu and kubuntu questions get answered in #ubuntu before
[05:25] <Roasted> I've also been told to ask in other channels before.
[05:25] <Roasted> Part of the whole "off topic to ubuntu" thing.
[05:26] <maco> Amaranth: really?
[05:26] <Roasted> ...love it
[05:26] <maco> Amaranth: is there a rule against asking about other official versions? i know mint and such aren't allowed...
[05:26] <Amaranth> maco: If someone knows the answer they'll answer, I suppose
[05:27] <Amaranth> But some people (not ops) just ignore you until you're in the right channel :/
[05:27] <Roasted> gotta love it
[05:27] <maco> Amaranth: thats how i thought it worked
[05:27] <Amaranth> That's not our doing, it's a 1500 user channel trying to police itself
[05:28] <maco> though i have yanked people over to #kubuntu just because #ubuntu was scrolling too fast
[05:28] <Roasted> Hey man, it's understandable.
[05:28] <Roasted> But look at it from my standpoint
[05:28] <maco> (when they're using kde, i mean)
[05:28] <Amaranth> I tend to answer the question then point them to the right place to ask further questions
[05:28] <Roasted> 2 nights ago I get yelled at for asking a kubuntu question in ubuntu
[05:28] <Roasted> yet now mods are telling me it's okay
[05:29] <maco> Roasted: by an op?
[05:29] <Amaranth> People get ideas of what the 'rules' are and try to enforce them but we don't have rules, we have some basic guidelines
[05:29] <Roasted> maco - I assume so. I mean, can typical users "squealch" you?
[05:29] <Roasted> or whatever?
[05:29] <Roasted> keep you silent for 10 minutes or whatever that thing is
[05:30] <Roasted> I was told that's what would happen if I asked more kubuntu related things in there
[05:30] <Amaranth> Oh, that was FloodBot1 muting you
[05:30] <maco> quiet. no they cant
[05:30] <maco> ahhh
[05:30] <Amaranth> iirc it does that if 4 regular users try to give you a warning
[05:30] <maco> really? didnt know that!
[05:30] <Roasted> I didnt get muted though.
[05:30] <Roasted> I was just told to leave or I'd get silenced.
[05:30] <maco> by whom?
[05:31] <Amaranth> That may have been just a normal user then
[05:31] <Roasted> Gosh I wish I knew the name.
[05:31] <Amaranth> maco: I've seen the bot do something like that before
[05:31] <Roasted> It's not like you guys have distinctive "maco-OP" names so its hard to tell.
[05:31] <maco> Roasted: irclogs.ubuntu.com may help?\
[05:31] <Amaranth> maco: But it may have been all floodbot warnings
[05:31] <Amaranth> Roasted: That's intentional, actually
[05:31] <Roasted> and that's understandable
[05:31] <maco> Amaranth: ive only ever seen the floodbot do stuff if you hit enter too much
[05:31] <Roasted> but in this situation, because there wasn't a direct tag on the name, I had no clue if it was an OP
[05:32] <Roasted> that's all I meant by that
[05:32] <maco> you can ask :)
[05:32] <Roasted> I probably should have.
[05:32] <Amaranth> 1) I'm in about 30 channels and I'm not an op in all of them and 2) at least in Ubuntu if you stay op'ed too long _everyone_ asks you questions specifically instead of asking the channel in general
[05:33] <maco> and then you get told you left your hat on or get asked about your cinnamon bun :P
[05:33] <Roasted> maco - you said youre a kubuntu user?
[05:33] <maco> yes
[05:33] <Roasted> can I ask you a question quick or would you prefer I direct it to a separate dialog box so its not in the chat?
[05:33] <maco> you can pm
[05:33] <Roasted> can you shoot me one? I cant seem to figure out how to initiate one in quassel - its still new to me
[05:34] <maco> double click my name in the nicks list
[05:34] <Roasted> lol - easy enough.
[07:07] <Flannel> Really?
[07:07] <Flannel> We banned 30 people in a day?
[07:07] <Flannel> Oh, DCC spam yesterday probably
[07:08] <maco> Flannel: i think eddiegentry is pulling mine & indus's leg, but im not 100% sure
[07:10] <maco> said ubuntu was showing gross images in windows. i asked what kind of window. he said not browser. indus asked for screenshot, and its a bunch of adult images, and theyre not open in any application, theyre just plain on the desktop wallpaper...
[07:10] <maco> i wonder if eddie just wanted to link adult images in #ubuntu
[07:12] <Flannel> maco: I'm actually running off to catch the meteorshowers, but I'll be back in a few hours :)
[07:12] <maco> alrighty
[07:12] <jussi01> maco: just confirm he downloaded it from a good source
[07:13] <maco> downloaded what?
[07:13] <jussi01> his ubuntu image
[07:13] <jussi01> or is it not a new install...
[07:13]  * jussi01 is tired and should really read scroll back before saying stuff.
[07:14] <maco> his friend installed for him
[07:14] <maco> he says
[07:15] <maco> now we're thinking his friend is a prankster
[07:15] <maco> well i'm still a bit suspicious....
[07:23] <jussi01> !ops | banlist is FULL!!
[07:24] <maco> jussi01: ever notice how that autoban alias just ops and deops without ban/removing when the channel's too busy?
[07:24] <jussi01> seriously, go check your bans please everyone
[07:25] <jussi01> maco: the banlist was full
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> good lord
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> @btlogin
[07:25] <maco> jussi01: oh that causes that? ive had it happen to me before without that being it. just had to try again
[07:25] <topyli> @btlogin
[07:26] <jussi01> could someone with ubuntu access go throught the FB bans - seems an awful lot of them, and those read-topic forwards on random nicks can probably go Id say
[07:26]  * jussi01 needs to head back to work, sorry
[07:29] <maco> ok i cleaned up my #kubuntu and #ubuntu-women bans. dunno if htat has any effect, but hey, it was a reminder
[07:37] <dholbach> good morning
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> jussi01: The bantracker appears to have some inconsistencies with the real ban list that will need to be manually adjusted when you have time.
[08:04] <jussi01> tonyyarusso: ok, have you any details?
[08:04] <jussi01> (its probably because of the splits)
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> jussi01: The majority of ones from 2008 for #ubuntu
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> What's the banlist size limit again?  400?
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> maco: uh, look at your #ubuntu log - did you see me do anything odd just now?
[08:14] <maco> did you just unban 2 people in one command?
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> yeah, that's intentional
[08:15] <maco> i didnt know that was possible
[08:15] <maco> is that what you were talking about?
[08:15] <tonyyarusso> nope
[08:16] <maco> what was i supposed to have seen odd?
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> somehow I managed to trigger a list of the exceptions printing to my screen, and I have no idea why
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> Hopefully nothing :)
[08:16] <maco> oh
[08:16] <maco> no idea
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> 'k, thanks
[08:16] <jussi01> tonyyarusso: hehe, nothing come here.
[08:19] <nalioth> maco: you can unban lots of folks with one command
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> Okay, that's enough.  Ban list is down to 252.
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> maco: (up to four at a time, unless Freenode changed since I last checked)
[08:20] <nalioth> only 252?
[08:20] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: no sir.
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: There were a *lot* of *old*, unmarked things.  We've had it fill up too often lately, so I took a chance and purged a bit.  *crosses fingers*
[08:21] <nalioth> tonyyarusso: yo ucan unban as many as you like, chanserv just echoes tehm 4 per line
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: ooooooh, cool!
[08:21] <jussi01> nalioth: what is the limit?
[08:22]  * jussi01 has forgotten
[08:22] <Tm_T> hi
[08:22] <nalioth> jussi01: limit on what?
[08:22] <jussi01> banlist
[08:23] <jussi01> How many bans can we have?
[08:23] <nalioth> i have no idea, but 252 is ridiculous
[08:23] <nalioth> bans are not "fire and forget"
[08:24] <jussi01> tonyyarusso: thanks for the purge, if someone comes in and is disruptive, Im sure we can sort it.
[08:24] <jussi01> nalioth: Huge +1 to that.
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> jussi01: usually true, yeah :)
[08:24] <nalioth> i realize we have floodbots in the mix now.  perhaps they can be coded to remove their own bans after a certain period of time?
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> I did leave a few choice ones where I still recognize the nick.
[08:24] <jussi01> nalioth: they are supposed to...
[08:25] <jussi01> tonyyarusso: 252 still seems a crazy amount though.
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> jussi01: Then I guess it's a good thing I didn't check the number before I started ;)
[10:31] <Flannel> ikonia: You certainly scared him off
[10:31] <ikonia> who ?
[10:31] <Flannel> Trota
[10:31] <ikonia> didn't notice him
[10:31] <ikonia> just clearing down old ompaul bans
[10:33] <jussi01> ooh, gnine, I remember him, haven seen for ages. funny like that, some names you remember...
[10:34] <ikonia> yup, some long term guys
[10:34] <ikonia> but they are taking up space and I've not seen them online (nor has nickserv) for a long time so it's worth removing
[10:35] <jussi01> yup, exactly
[10:37] <ikonia> i've left the ones I put back in place at Seveas request
[13:44] <tsimpson> !forget links
[19:14]  * Pici sighs
[19:15] <nalioth> so now we can't remove bans?  sheesh
[19:17] <Pici> Pricey: thats a lot of stale bans....
[19:18] <Pricey> Pici: +L gives us a lot of room.
[19:32] <Pricey> Not quite close enough for us to request -L, but good enough for now.
[19:32] <Pricey> Those of you with bans still active, please reconsider them.
[19:37] <Fallyn> Thanks for unbanning me
[19:37] <Fallyn> .-.
[19:39] <Pricey> Fallyn: Not sure when it happenned, but cool.
[19:39] <Pricey> Fallyn: Could I ask that you keep #ubuntu free for support though?
[19:39] <Fallyn> Of course
[19:39] <Fallyn> o.o
[19:39] <Pricey> Fallyn: We've #ubuntu-offtopic if you want some random chat :-)
[19:40] <Pricey> Fallyn: appreciated
[19:40] <Fallyn> Pricey.. this is fallen
[19:40] <Fallyn> the "OMGZORZ ITS THE BOT SPAMMAR!!"
[19:40] <Fallyn> r.r...
[19:40] <Fallyn> 4 month ban
[19:42] <Pricey> Fallyn: Well I hope its all behind us now then.
[19:42] <Fallyn> Yea
[19:42] <Pricey> Good stuff.
[19:44] <Pici> Valkyrie: Is there anything else we can help you with?
[19:45] <Valkyrie> Nah
[19:45] <Pici> That was interesting.
[19:46] <Pricey> I don't see a matching ban?
[19:47] <Pici> me either.
[19:50] <Pricey> Yay noone can blame me if he does something silly then.
[23:34] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu rockmonster appeared to want to be an issue, was commenting on a conversation I had when he wasn't in the channel, more than meets the eye on his pushing the issue
[23:35] <Flannel> ikonia: rockmasterb, not rockmonster, unless there's someone else
[23:35] <ikonia> Flannel: nice catch !
[23:35] <ikonia> @mark #ubuntu rockmasterb, appeared to want to be an issue, was commenting on a conversation I had when he wasn't in the channel, more than meets the eye on his pushing the issue