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* fagan needs to talk to marjo tomorrow because I have an idea about a qa news thing01:58
persiafagan: What's the idea? (and wouldn't -quality be a better channel)?02:01
czajkowskipersia: aloha02:04
persiaHey czajkowski02:05
faganpersia: I just want to make an "application" for qa02:06
faganjust to display what needs testing02:06
faganI just realised that chrome has an easy way to do just that02:06
faganjcastro is doing something just like that02:07
faganhe made a package with gmail..etc and it installs them into the menu and opens them like normal applicaions in the menu02:07
persiaBascially, some notification that tells the user what stuff is up for testing?02:08
faganwell yep02:08
faganthey just go to the menu and click ubuntu testing and it opens a page with a list02:08
persiaWell, if you're just referencing some website (which can be simple or complex), using a chromium hook or prism is a reasonable solution.02:09
persiaBut that won't give you push-notifications.02:09
persiaYou could do something with RSS, perhaps, so subscribers would be notified.02:09
persiaOr a panel applet that would send a notification.02:09
faganwell that was my original idea02:09
persiaThere was a UDS session about this sort of thing, if I remember correctly02:09
* persia checks02:09
faganto do a full on program that notifies02:10
faganbut that would be a lot of effort for developers02:10
faganpersia: we had one to increase participation in testing02:10
persiaWell, not necessarily.  There's free code out there to do 95% of anything above.02:11
faganIt would be effort for the developers asking for the testing02:11
faganthe way im suggesting all we need is a wiki02:11
persiaRight.   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/TestingTeam02:11
faganwe talked about it in the qa meeting last week, so all we need to do is let everyone know where the wiki is and get them to add to it02:13
faganthat would make it simple on everyone02:13
faganI just want to know which way would be best the simple way or the harder yet could be better way02:15
persiaThat would certainly help.02:15
persiaMy personal recommendation is to engage bugsquad and #ubuntu for specific things.02:16
faganSo we could include a program for testing releases that just points to info about what needs testing02:16
persiaThere's usually lots of people who wouldn't mind helping with something small, but aren't sure they can commit to being a regular part of the team.02:16
faganthats the idea02:16
fagananyway im off to bed its late02:17
persiaGood night.02:17
aragood morning all!06:24
drizzlemorning06:25
Grantbowgood evenign ara!06:25
Grantbow*evening06:25
arahey Grantbow :)06:26
Grantbowara: We finished our evening LoCo meeting.  It's almost 22:30 here06:27
araGrantbow, nice, how did it go?06:28
Grantbowara: made made some progress.  akgraner and I mentioned testing and fielded a few questions06:29
Grantbownot sure if the log is online yet.06:29
araGrantbow, was it at #ubuntu-meeting?06:29
Grantbowno, #ubuntu-california06:33
GrantbowI'm working on posting the meeting to our wiki page06:33
GrantbowIt will be here in a little while https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/09December1306:33
araGrantbow, OK, I will read it later today :-)06:43
araGrantbow, I have seen that you are coordinating with ScottRitchie for the wiki changes, that's awesome :)06:44
Grantbowara: He and I met twice here in California last week and talked about changes, yeah.06:46
araGrantbow, nice :)06:46
aramvo, morning07:47
mvohey ara! good morning07:47
aramvo, I plan to upgrade my main machine today to Lucid, are there any "don't do it" bugs around I might know?07:48
mvoara: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/07:50
mvoara: results from yesterday look ok :)07:50
aramvo, nice, thanks!07:50
mvoara: I haven't done bug triage this monring yet, if you wait ~2-3h more, than I can say more, but I suspect its ok07:50
aramvo, OK, I guess I can wait :)07:51
Grantbowara: luckily the announcements went first.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/09December1307:59
araGrantbow, cool08:00
faganmorning08:23
faganara: cool idea using http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Applications08:24
aramorning fagan08:26
arafagan, I just replied again. I think Regression Testing is a better term for what Scott's is explaining08:30
faganara: I have a package made on my local machine that makes an applicaion (using chrome) for to go to http://testcases.qa.ubuntu.com/Applications08:36
faganit just points to the wiki08:36
arafagan, :-)08:37
faganI stole the idea from jcastro08:37
faganhe did it for gmail..etc, I just changed the address08:38
faganara: it looks like this http://twitpic.com/tgxzg08:42
faganhehe08:42
aranice :)08:43
arawatching the big bang theory :D08:43
faganactually same here08:43
faganweird :)08:43
arafagan, no, I meant that YOU are watching :D08:45
arafagan, I saw it in your screenshot08:46
faganOh hehe08:46
faganim just keeping busy before college08:47
* fagan is testing totem in lucid too :D08:48
davmor2Morning All09:34
czajkowskiAloha09:39
davmor2czajkowski: how's things10:09
czajkowskidavmor2: not bad thanks, yourself?10:10
davmor2cool thanks10:11
arahey davmor2, czajkowski10:26
davmor2ara: how's things?10:54
aradavmor2, good thanks :-) upgrading to lucid now :)10:54
czajkowskiI'm gonna hold off a bit11:03
czajkowskiI want my mini 9 hardy to upgrade to lucid.11:03
davmor2ara: looks like it worked then11:12
arawell, more or less...  let's start seeing if every thing works...11:13
arato start with... nvidia drivers were not activated by default11:13
arais that normal, mvo? ^11:13
arasounds works, \o/11:14
davmor2ara: you make it sound like the sound didn't :)11:17
* ara types ubuntu-bug xorg 11:20
aralaunchpad times out :-) nice....11:24
aramorning pedro_11:24
pedro_hi ara, good morning!11:25
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aradist-upgrade happiness (bug 496497)11:34
ubot4Launchpad bug 496497 in xorg "[nvidia] After upgrading to Lucid from Karmic, X crashed " [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49649711:34
* ara reboots11:38
faganara: the nvidia thing is the driver not being packaged well if you use the one from their website it works12:21
faganThe only problem I have is the new RGBA stuff that the desktop team want testing12:22
arathanks fagan, I saw that. I will wait for ubuntu packages later this week12:24
faganThat is going to be a nightmare to test12:25
* ara -> lunch12:39
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davmor2morning fader_ cr313:52
fader_davmor2: Howdy dude13:52
aramorning fader_, cr313:53
cr3hiya folks!13:53
fader_ara: Good morning :)13:53
fader_cr3: Aren't you on holiday today?13:54
davmor2fader_: he's a glutton for punishment13:54
fader_davmor2: He just couldn't stay away from you, I think13:54
fader_Or he wants a baguette.13:54
fader_Er, s/baguette/croissant/13:55
cr3fader_: yep, this is holiday time for me! however, I need to finish some salesforce work today, so here I am13:55
moustafafader_, cr3, davmor2: Je voudrais un croissant!14:07
cr3moustafa: what?14:07
fader_cr3: He's very popular.14:07
moustafaReally, I'd like a croissant, but the people downstairs are serving breakfast and they're making me feel bad for wanting to go to the little cafeteria and get a croissant14:08
cr3fader_: we get free grub (not the boot loader) and coffee in the office building today, now you know why I come to the office on my holidays14:08
fader_Hehe14:09
cr3"free" is my favorite flavour14:09
davmor2morning moustafa14:10
* davmor2 has coffee on tap all day :D14:12
cr3moustafa: the frogurt is cursed14:13
moustafahttp://www.crispygamer.com/comics/backward/backward-2009-10-12.aspx14:16
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davmor2moustafa: rebbit14:41
moustafadavmor2: I take it you tried the "open sorcery" term on a time-travelling sorcerer?14:43
davmor2rebbit14:43
moustafadavmor2: We're contacting the nearest princess to come for the cure, so if I were you, I'd pray she's pretty14:44
davmor2:D that's quite a good old joke14:44
moustafacr3: Perl was coded by a madman14:48
davmor2moustafa:  cr3 didn't code perl at all take that back instantly ;)14:50
moustafadavmor2: Then allow me to correct myself: Perl was coded by another madman14:50
cr3davmor2: I knew the interpreter inside out though, enough to extend the language to encrypt programs for commercial distribution.14:51
cr3davmor2: so, the fact I could relate to the source code of the interpreter so well might suggest there is more than one madman in this world14:51
davmor2cr3: allow me to introduce you to barbie at the birmingham perl mongers sometime :D14:52
cr3I love how the perl community is so colourful!14:53
moustafadavmor2: Perl mongers?  Why is it that I imagine they wear heavy war armour when they meet.  Alternatively, why is it I see geeks in armani suits trying to sell Perl to warring countries?14:54
valixhi all14:57
moustafaHello valix14:57
davmor2sbeattie: you about?16:16
sbeattiedavmor2: I am, though I'm making breakfast.16:17
davmor2are there any other platforms that you want sru's on or is it just hardy?16:18
sbeattiedavmor2: hardy's probably the short term priority, though help on any of the releases would be great.16:19
davmor2sbeattie: I'm also assuming that 32 and 64 is good and server on both too right?16:20
sbeattiedavmor2: perhaps I'm not understanding your question properly, but 8.04.4 test isos aren't being built yet.16:27
davmor2sbeattie: sorry away I want to test some sru's on hardy I'm assuming the easiest way is to install .3 and update then enable propose and check of the sru list for hardy if that makes sense?16:54
sbeattieyeah, that works.16:54
davmor2Right so I'll start that tomorrow then.16:55
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moustafacr3, fader_ see you tomorrow22:06
fader_moustafa: See ya22:06
cr3moustafa: see ya dude22:06
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czajkowskiwell that's a bit annoying, report a bug, it gets marked as a dup fair enough, then you get told to check out the other bug, but that's private and you can't :(22:49
bsmith1is it proper testing procedure to virtualize the iso and test that way?22:52
sbeattieczajkowski: which bug?23:04
czajkowskisbeattie: bug 49489923:09
ubot4czajkowski: Bug 494899 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/494899 is private23:09
czajkowskiwhich isn't very helpful when it tells me to go add to it :(23:10
sbeattieczajkowski: agreed. There was some discussion at UDS around addressing that, but I don't recall what the result was.23:12
sbeattieczajkowski: bug 494899 is no longer private.23:12
ubot4Launchpad bug 494899 in software-center "software-center crashed with NoSectionError in set()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49489923:12
czajkowskisbeattie: thank you23:12
czajkowskisbeattie: not sure I can add more to it, but it was just annoying to be told mine was a dupicate, go add to this, when I couldnt23:13

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