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Num83rGuyThough I am sure this has been asked a thousand times, are the 4.4 beta packages coming for Karmic or are they Lucid only?00:06
geniiNum83rGuy: They should eventually be in karmic backports00:09
Num83rGuyOK thanks, I will wait.00:12
[SilverFox]What is the best way to uninstall my old  fglrx (ati) so when i reset my new nvidia card will detect auto and install like was a fresh os install00:16
p1erre_Hi folks. Is there someone that has installed KDE 4 from trunk branch while using 4.3 without breaking the system?00:27
ScuniziSilverFox.. your nick is hard to TAB autocomplete even with the "[" present.. after install.. reboot to the rescue kernel and choose "fix video" or something to that effect.. that should take care of it.00:28
Scuniziprobably because he's not logged in any more.. :(00:29
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wavis_can anyone give me a tip on escaping characters? eg export CLASSPATH="/jexts/\*" leaves me with the string /jexts/\*  and I'm trying to avoid the backslash00:31
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wavis_if i leave out the backslash it expands to the contents of the directory. also not what I want.00:32
dtchenwhy would you need an asterisk in your $CLASSPATH?00:32
wavis_I have a directory that i drop jars into for testing on a REPL00:33
wavis_setting and unsetting the classpath is inconvenient, and java 6 understands the asterisk00:34
wavis_not the point, anyway00:34
wavis_there should be some way to escape a star character, seriously00:36
dtchenseems to work fine in the shell that I use (mksh)00:41
dtchencrimsun@errno:~/tmp $ touch \*00:41
dtchencrimsun@errno:~/tmp $ rm -- \*00:41
wavis_I'm discovering that when echoing the variable I need to quote it. so i actually got it right for one of those, but when I echoed, the path was expanded, which was fine. I just thought it was expanded before.00:43
wavis_echo "$CLASSPATH"00:43
wavis_instead of00:43
wavis_echo $CLASSPATH00:43
tsimpsonuse single quotes00:43
wavis_tsimpson: i actually want to see the contents of the variable00:44
wavis_http://stackoverflow.com/questions/102049/how-do-i-escape-the-wildcard-asterisk-character-in-bash00:44
tsimpsonusing single quotes disables shell expansion00:45
tsimpsonecho '*' will print exactly *00:45
wavis_right, so00:46
wavis_export CLASSPATH='/jexts/*'00:46
wavis_is correct00:46
wavis_thanks :)00:46
funcrushcan I see the contents in buffer??00:47
tsimpsonwhat buffer?00:48
ubuntuhola00:48
funcrushI did copy some text in konsole but i can't paste it00:48
ubuntualguien habla español?00:48
tsimpson!es | ubuntu00:48
ubottuubuntu: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.00:48
ubuntuy como entro00:49
tsimpsonfuncrush: Ctrl-Shift-V or middle click should paste00:49
ubuntudisculpa mi ignorancia00:49
funcrushtsimpson: yep i know, but it doesn't work00:49
tsimpsonubuntu: /j #kubuntu-es00:49
tsimpsonfuncrush: how did you copy?00:50
ubuntuthank you00:50
funcrushtsimpson: 3 ways, selecting with drag, right click and hit copy, ctrl+shift+c00:50
tsimpsonit should work then, do you have klipper running?00:51
funcrushtsimpson: yup it running00:51
tsimpsonclick on the klipper icon in the system tray and you should be able to see what's copied00:51
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funcrushtsimpson: the contents not exist... do u know anything?00:52
tsimpsonit works here, all the ways you've said00:53
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funcrushtsimpson: well... it can be solved by restart the program, konsole.00:54
funcrushbut shortly, the doesn't work again00:54
tsimpsonseems very odd00:54
funcrushok. anyway thank you for ur helping :)00:55
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phant0m_does karmic koala support a kde desktop?01:01
tsimpsonyes01:01
phant0m_where can i get it pls?01:01
phant0m_its not in my repo01:01
tsimpsonyou install the "kubuntu-desktop" package01:01
phant0m_from their main site i presume01:02
mwhello, i have the following problem: after haveing sucessfully (re)boot my machine, i can hear sound on the speakers and, if i plug them in, on headphones. after bringing the machine to standby or hibernate, and reactivateing it, i can hear sound ONLY if i use headphones. the speakers do not seem to work, but using headphones, sound works as normal. this is a hp/compaq notebook with in integrated intel sound card.01:02
tsimpsonit's in main, yes01:02
mwphant0m_: just install the package like you would install any other package.01:02
phant0m_it doesnt appear in my repo01:02
tsimpsonphant0m_: then you have none enabled01:02
tsimpsonthe package is in main, which should be enabled on all installs01:03
phant0m_no i have the opportunity to down other packages just not kubuntu01:03
tsimpsonit's called "kubuntu-desktop"01:03
tsimpsonit is there01:03
phant0m_ok brb01:03
phant0m_educational desktop for kubuntu that right ?01:04
tsimpsonno01:05
tsimpsonthat's edubuntu-desktop-kde01:05
tsimpsonyou want kubuntu-desktop with the description "Kubuntu desktop system"01:06
phant0m_k ill ceck again01:06
phant0m_check*01:06
phant0m_no not there01:07
tsimpsonit should be, update your package list01:07
phant0m_how?01:07
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tsimpsonI'm not sure how to in gnome, look for an update button or similar01:08
phant0m_k01:08
kubiantsimpson: in terminal  sudo aptitude update01:09
kubianor apt-get update01:09
phant0m_t01:09
phant0m_ta01:09
tsimpsonmake sure you close the package manager first01:09
tsimpsonotherwise it'll fail01:09
phant0m_k01:09
phant0m_hmmm no still not there01:10
kubianr u using synaptic?01:10
phant0m_err01:10
phant0m_software centre01:11
kubianuse synaptic and then refresh list01:11
tsimpsonthat doesn't show all packages01:11
phant0m_ok01:11
tsimpsonor you can just do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" in a terminal01:12
phant0m_right im gonna stick to using synaptic rather than software centre its misleading and that annoys me lol01:12
kubianUSoftCenter is crap01:13
phant0m_yes i just came to that realisation myself01:13
phant0m_im also havin a minor issue with opera01:13
tsimpsonthat is being addressed for lucid01:13
kubiankde can be installed with gnome but it's preferred to just use kubuntu if you like kde01:13
phant0m_yes i do like kde01:14
phant0m_i prefer it01:14
tsimpsonyay, netsplits01:14
phant0m_sigh thats so annoying01:14
kubianif u mix with gnome there would be a lot of clutter in the menu01:14
tsimpsonif you prefer KDE, why not install Kubuntu rather than Ubuntu?01:15
phant0m_i didnt get an option between the two01:15
tsimpsonyou download the Kubuntu CD rather than the Ubuntu one...01:15
phant0m_lol stands to reason01:15
phant0m_didnt know that before otherwise i would have01:16
tsimpsonhttp://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu for next time01:16
phant0m_ty01:16
phant0m_i was going to ask if you could help with an issue regarding opera pls01:16
tsimpsonwell we don't make opera, so it'll be hard ;)01:17
phant0m_lol there a help channel here01:17
r00t_Howdy so iw as randomly typing away at keys and spinning my  mouswheel when my desktop got very small and went up tnot the top left hand corner and now theres just a grey/white checkerboard in place of where the desktop orignaly was.01:18
tsimpsonr00t_: you zoomed out to the activity view, there should be a magnifying glass icon under the desktop to zoom back in01:19
mwr00t_: try windows key + scroll down01:19
tsimpsonphant0m_: well opera is proprietary so there is only unofficial support in ##opera01:20
phant0m_ok ty01:20
r00t_thanks01:21
r00t_whats a decent irc client? like one that would come with preprogramed irc servers?01:26
phant0m_xchat01:27
phant0m_konversation01:27
tsimpsonI don't get why that's so important to people, but xchat comes with a build-in server list01:27
phant0m_mirc01:27
tsimpsonand mirc is not "decent" by any stretch01:27
krezlynHello01:27
phant0m_lol worked for me01:28
krezlyncan anyone tell me how i would manage my harddrives in kubuntu?01:28
phant0m_do you have raid?01:29
phant0m_firewire01:29
tsimpsonperhaps you should explain exactly what you mean by "manage" :)01:29
ubuntu_what happen with the kubuntu 9.10 install:01:31
krezlynwell, i have a second harddrive which is ext3, however i do not have access to it on my system currently like i cant find where i can access it01:31
ubuntu_i got read olny msg01:31
ubuntu_;j #ubuntu-br01:32
tsimpsonkrezlyn: see if it's listed in the "places" list in dolphin01:32
krezlynhaha it is thanks01:33
ubuntuhello01:34
ubuntuwhat chanel01:35
ubuntuis the hacking?01:35
tsimpsondepends on your definition of hacking01:35
ubuntuor chatfriends01:35
ubuntunivel web01:36
tsimpsonif you want a chat channel, try #defocus01:36
ubuntuthank you01:37
ubuntusorry for my english01:37
ubuntuis not perfect01:37
krezlynwhat is a good music player (mp3's)01:38
tsimpsonamarok01:38
krezlynHmmmm ok..01:38
phant0m_no01:38
phant0m_not amarok01:38
tsimpsonjust make sure to install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package01:38
krezlynwhat is kubuntu-restricted-extras?01:38
phant0m_codecs01:39
tsimpsonit contains, amongst other things, mp3 codecs01:39
krezlynok01:39
phant0m_stupid us law01:39
krezlynim doing the software update at the moment.01:39
tsimpsonnot just codecs, flash, lame, unrar, sun-java and microsoft fonts01:39
krezlynphant0m_: what would you recommend for music player?01:39
krezlynwhats lame?01:40
tsimpsonkrezlyn: join #ubuntu-bots and ask "what is the best music player?"01:40
phant0m_rhythmbox01:40
phant0m_amarok is considered the best01:40
phant0m_but i disagree01:40
tsimpsonlame is an mp4 encoder01:40
phant0m_because of the stupid law01:40
tsimpsonerm, mp3, not 401:41
phant0m_lol01:41
krezlynwill amorak automaticlly rescan my media directory for new mp3's?01:41
tsimpsonyes01:41
tsimpsonif you want it to01:41
phant0m_yes may cause errors tho01:41
phant0m_another player thats very good is songbird01:41
tsimpsonI've used amarok for years, never had an issues with it01:41
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tsimpsontry several, see what you like01:42
phant0m_the problem i kept having with it was it didnt recognize alot of the music01:42
krezlynhow do i find out the mountpoint of my second hard drive?01:43
phant0m_same with songbird but you dont have to mess with restricted formats like with amarok01:43
tsimpsonopen konsole, type "mount"01:43
tsimpsonphant0m_: that's not amarok's fault01:44
phant0m_no i know it isnt01:44
phant0m_if the problem didnt exist i would carryon using amarok01:45
Goliathhi01:45
phant0m_hi01:45
Goliathi want to remove an application from the kde menu, i used the editor but the app remains01:45
Goliathphant0m_:01:47
Goliathdo you know01:47
Goliathsd01:56
Goliathsad01:56
Goliathas01:56
Goliathdsa01:56
Goliathdasds01:56
GoliathHEY01:56
Goliathtakis:01:56
Goliatheeeeeeeeeeee mouni01:56
phant0m_?01:56
tsimpsonGoliath: do not flood01:56
Goliathtsimpson: how can i remove an entry from kde menu01:57
tsimpsonif someone knows, they'll answer01:57
tsimpsonas far as I know, the way you did it should have worked01:57
phant0m_sorry goliath i use gnome01:57
phant0m_and i was doin something else01:57
Goliathtsimpson: it appeears....01:57
Goliathtsimpson: its still there01:58
Goliathhow can i run kde menu editor from command line?02:01
Goliathor from cli02:01
tsimpsonrun kmenuedit02:02
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tsimpsonand "cli" is "command line"02:02
Goliathi kno02:02
Goliathw02:02
Goliathtsimpson: when i type this i get a gui again02:04
Goliathtsimpson: cant i just edit a conf file02:04
Goliathor something02:04
tsimpsonthat is the kde menu editor, yes02:05
tsimpsonit's made of lots of .desktop files, user specific entries are in ~/.local/share/applications02:05
Goliathits still in there02:06
Goliatha desktop file02:07
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scottHey all, New to Linux and I have a few Questions.  Anyone free?02:13
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scott____Anyone around to take a question?02:18
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Goliath[04:46] <Goliath> i removed using menu editor an application from kde4 and now even if i reinstall the program the application isnt shown02:46
Goliath[04:46] <Goliath> how do i fix it02:46
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Goliathi removed using menu editor an application from kde4 and now even if i reinstall the program the application isnt shown. How do i fix it?02:50
tsimpsonGoliath: stop repeating that so much02:51
Goliathtsimpson: it drives me crazy02:51
tsimpsonfine, but don't repeat it so much02:51
nbndsalready tried to set the menu to defaults?02:52
Goliathnbnds: dude this was ingenius! it worked02:55
nbndsglad i could help02:56
Logan_LockwoodHi02:58
Logan_LockwoodHow can i format (reformat?) mi pendrive easily in Kubuntu?02:58
Goliathnbnds: btw a guy told me this02:59
Goliath<firephoto> Goliath: when u delete something it will show up in ~/.config/menus/02:59
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nbndsin "system" category there is an app "startup disk creator, just press on "format" button there03:02
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gorgonzolahello. i was just wondering: what happened with networkmanager plasma widget?03:25
Logan_LockwoodNetworkmanager is not being used anymore (i think)03:26
gorgonzolais that a kde thing, or is it just us?03:26
gorgonzolawait. you mean the backend? it sure is. it is used through Knetworkmanager.. but we used to have a plasmoid03:27
gorgonzolai have been trying to find out what happened with it for months...03:27
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nbndsmay be it is possible to download this plasmid from kde-looks.org?03:28
Logan_LockwoodWait03:28
Logan_Lockwoodfrome repositorys03:28
Logan_Lockwoodthere is it.03:29
Logan_Lockwoodplasma-widget-network-manager03:29
Logan_Lockwoodis that what you're looking for?03:29
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ElTimohi, any word on the kde 4.4 packages for karmic?03:33
tsimpsonnot yet, keep an eye on kubuntu.org03:33
ElTimo><03:33
ElTimoi compiled it from source, but it just wasnt the same03:33
muri_one_does kde work well with alternative window managers?03:35
tsimpsonit should, as long as those window managers are standards compliant03:36
ElTimoseriously, what's making the packages take so long? is it the upgrade to qt 4.6 that's holding things up or something?03:49
kishorewhy is koffice-kde4 for lucid still at version 2.0.2 when there has been a new post for 2.1?03:52
kishore*news*03:52
kishorehttp://www.kubuntu.org/news/koffice-2.1.003:53
tsimpsonkishore: because 2.1 is only in the PPA03:54
kishoretsimpson: that is true for karmic but for lucid it should be in the main repos03:54
kishoreor so says the aticle03:54
tsimpsonno, because it was never put into the repos03:54
tsimpsonyou should file a bug to remind devs about it03:55
kishoresure. against koffice?03:55
tsimpsonyes please03:55
krezlyndoes anyone here play muds?03:55
[SilverFox]is this okay? 118604 frames in 5.0 seconds?03:57
[SilverFox]I really not sure how to increase my frames03:57
kishoretsimpson: Interesting... the page https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice says lucid contains 2.103:58
tsimpsonI think I remember it being called "koffice-kde4" by mistake03:59
kishoretsimpson: Yes. I am referring to koffice-kde4. koffice still refers to 1.604:00
tsimpson!info koffice-kde4 lucid04:00
ubottukoffice-kde4 (source: koffice2): KDE Office Suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.0.2-2ubuntu3 (lucid), package size 9 kB, installed size 52 kB04:00
Roastedwhats up everyone04:02
tsimpsonkishore: it's still waiting to build04:02
kishore!info koffice build04:02
ubottu'build' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, intrepid, intrepid-backports, jaunty, jaunty-backports, karmic, karmic-backports, karmic-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, medibuntu, partner04:02
tsimpsonkishore: build is compiling04:02
kishore!info koffice lucid04:02
ubottukoffice (source: koffice): KDE Office Suite. In component main, is optional. Version 1:1.6.3-7ubuntu10 (lucid), package size 20 kB, installed size 60 kB04:02
tsimpsonstupid splits04:03
RoastedDoes Kubuntu and Ubuntu do anything differently in terms of the way they handle/disperse network load? I have 2 setups at work, both identical laptops - 1 ubuntu, 1 kubuntu, imaging 15 laptops at a time. The Kubuntu LAN is always slower than the Ubuntu LAN - I can't figure out why.04:03
kishoretsimpson: still building? It's been a while since the realease and the announcement. PPA's have been available for a while...04:03
tsimpsonkishore: build in lucid, not PPAs. building a package in the repos is somewhat more complex than a PPA04:04
tsimpsonRoasted: no, the only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the GUI, all the base/kernel/networking stuff is identical04:04
Roastedtsimpson - that's what I thought too. But I cannot trace back ANY differences in the setups whatsoever.04:05
kishoretsimpson: ah ok. will have to wait then04:05
Roastedtwo gigabit switches, same make/model. two laptops, same make/model. All Cat5e network cable. 15 laptops per LAN to image - same image on each LAN. I just can't trace what might be different. And the thing is, I USED to have Ubuntu on my laptop and it was fine, once I put Kubuntu on it I noticed the slight lag in getting images cranked out.04:06
RoastedIt'll cater to 2 laptops and they'll be pushing out full bore speeds, while the rest linger around the 3-4 hour mark (obscenely high). Once the 2 speed demons are done, the remainder take off fu ll bore. It's very strange.04:06
RoastedMeanwhile the Ubuntu lan is pretty much handling all clients at the same range/speed.04:07
krezlynAny mudders on?04:07
tsimpsonkrezlyn: try asking in the freenode social channel (#defocus)04:08
krezlyni need help with installing a mud client on kde04:09
krezlynkubuntu04:09
tsimpson!find mud04:09
ubottuFound: gnome-mud, lib64mudflap0, lib64mudflap0-dbg, libmudflap0, libmudflap0-4.2-dev (and 6 others)04:09
Roastedtsimpson - do you just moderate kubuntu, or you an actual kubuntu fan?04:09
tsimpsonRoasted: I've used Kubuntu since early 2005 :)04:10
krezlynim trying to find a package for kmuddy.. i know the names i just to find one with a kubuntu package04:10
tsimpson!find kmuddy04:10
Roastedtsimpson - nice. I've used it for about, ohh, a month. :P04:10
ubottuPackage/file kmuddy does not exist in karmic04:10
tsimpsonkrezlyn: I see kildclient in the repos04:10
tsimpson!info kildclient04:10
ubottukildclient (source: kildclient): Powerful MUD client with a built-in Perl interpreter. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.9.0-1 (karmic), package size 314 kB, installed size 1428 kB04:10
krezlynim also hoping to find one that had a automapper04:11
tsimpsonkmuddy was probably discontinued04:11
noviceOn Karmic how do I make the whole system go to sleep, automaticaly?04:12
krezlyncan i install a rpm or make a rpm a .deb ?04:12
tsimpson!alien04:12
ubottuRPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous and unsupported)04:12
Hoppiyeah i think it is possible to convert them, but i wouldn't recommend it04:13
tsimpsonnovice: look in system settings -> advanced -> power management04:13
Hoppi99.9% of the time you can get a .deb anyway :)04:13
tsimpsonor get a .tar.gz and install the fun way ;)04:13
Hoppilol nooooo! not fun!04:14
Hoppihehe04:14
novicetsimpson: yeah im there just not sure how to set it04:14
tsimpsonnovice: look under the Edit Profiles section04:14
tsimpsonand the "When the system is idle for more than ..." part04:14
novicetsimpson: suspend to ram?04:16
tsimpsonthat's probably what you want04:17
novicetsimpson: is that like sleep?04:17
tsimpsonwhat does sleep do exactly?04:17
krezlynanyone use Quassel?04:17
tsimpsonsuspend to disk mean to save the RAM to the disk and power off04:17
HoppiQuassel is cool!04:17
novicetsimpson: just want to were i press the space bar it wakes back up04:17
Hoppii'm using it right now :)04:17
tsimpsonsuspend to ram means to turn most stuff off, but keep the power on04:17
Roastedhoppi - you from forums?04:17
HoppiRoasted: you know it :)04:18
tsimpsonnovice: then suspend to ram is it04:18
HoppiRoasted: hehe04:18
krezlyn[20:17:28] <krezlyn> anyone use Quassel? < -- that is how it should show on my chat screen, but for some reason there likes 3 inchs of space between the time stamp and ppl's, name. how can i fix this?04:18
Roastedhaaaaaa I thought so!04:18
Hoppi^_^04:18
HoppiRoasted: I was very pleased when I discovered this IRC!04:18
Roastedhoppi - gotta love it man.04:18
novicetsimpson: Thank you very much and windows 7 is a lie!04:18
Roastedthese channels may not be overly populated but they can sometimes yield quick answers04:18
tsimpsonRoasted: you can create debs from .tar.gz installs with http://giftwrap.tuxfamily.org/index.php?post/2009/05/29/GIftWrap-0.11 if you're interested04:19
Roastedtsimpson - was that supposed to be directed towards me?04:19
HoppiRoasted: yeah man this channel feels like home! Even viewing it through a rather awesome Qt4 IRC client =D04:19
Roastedlol04:19
tsimpsonnope :p04:19
HoppiQt4 > all other toolkits04:20
tsimpsonkrezlyn04:20
Hoppihehehehe :)04:20
tsimpsonHoppi: agreed, but keep things on topic please04:20
Roastedhoppi - I convinced my long time gnome using linux fan cousin to try kde04:20
Hoppitsimpson: isn't the topic KDE? ._.04:20
krezlynyes tsimpson?04:20
tsimpsonkrezlyn: about the .rpm, if you can get a .tar.gz, you can create a .deb from ir installs with http://giftwrap.tuxfamily.org/index.php?post/2009/05/29/GIftWrap-0.11 if you're interested04:20
HoppiRoasted: nice one! KDE is just wicked, it's so well made and designed :)04:20
tsimpsonHoppi: read the topic and see04:21
Hoppitsimpson: ok ._.04:21
tsimpsonbut the short answer is "nope" :)04:21
r00t_ninjahow can i use the aptlinex plugin with firefox ?04:21
Roastedhoppi - yeah man. I dig it. I <3 gnome too, and xfce. Decisions decisions. :P04:21
krezlyntsimpson: can you help me with my Quassel irc question?04:21
Hoppitsimpson: owh! just support? but... where can I go for random loosely Kubuntu related banter? =D04:21
tsimpsonHoppi: #kubuntu-offtopic04:21
Roastedprobably kubuntu-offtopic04:21
Hoppioo yay!04:22
Hoppisorry, i do like helping users of course, but I also like just hanging out with other kubuntu enthusiasts :)04:22
tsimpsonkrezlyn: if you mouse over near the space between nicks and the messages, a bar will magically appear04:22
tsimpsonclick and drag that04:23
tsimpson(maybe poor GUI design though)04:23
krezlynno none04:23
tsimpsonit's there, but difficult to find04:23
krezlynnevermind04:23
krezlynfound it04:23
Hoppiyes a very blurry bar!04:24
Hoppibut it works well :)04:24
krezlynif i move it to much tho04:24
krezlynit makes ppl's names disappear04:24
krezlynanyone recommend a diffrent or better irc client?04:24
tsimpsonit may bounce bacn when some speaks04:25
tsimpsontry konversation04:25
Hoppikrezlyn: well I'm afriad that's the price of moving it too far! lol04:25
tsimpsonit's what we used before quassel, because there was no KDE4 client then04:25
Hoppitsimpson: oh so is konversation qt3 based?04:25
tsimpsonnot any more04:25
Hoppioh04:26
tsimpson1.1.x was KDE3, 1.2.x is KDE404:26
Hoppii should try that too then :)04:26
krezlynwhat was the name of that restricted package?04:26
tsimpsonit's in the karmic repos04:26
HoppiQuassel is gorgeous but, can't hurt to try another! :)04:26
tsimpsonkubuntu-restricted-extras04:26
krezlynok tsimpson you use Quassel or another?04:26
tsimpsonkubuntu is more featureful than quassel, because it's older :)04:26
r00t_ninjahow can i get apt:// links to work with firefox in kubuntu?04:26
tsimpsonkrezlyn: until konversation gets proper scripting support, I'm kind of locked into xchat04:27
Roasteduis there a difference from ubuntu-restricted-extras to kubuntu-restricted-extras?04:27
krezlynbrb04:27
tsimpsonRoasted: yeah, the ubuntu ones install all the gstreamer stuff rather than the xine codec04:27
Roastedah, makes sense04:28
HoppiI wish offtopic wasn't so quiet ._. I just want somewhere where we can all oooo and ahhhh over the coolness of KDE rofl :)04:28
tsimpsonr00t_ninja: try installing the "apturl" package04:28
r00t_ninjathat requires alot of gnome stuff04:28
r00t_ninjaaptlinex should work though?04:29
dhrosai've accidentally zoomed out of the plasma desktop, how do I zoom back in?04:29
dhrosanevermind04:29
Hoppidhrosa: yeah that really confuses me too! It's the only thing I don't understand o.O  I think it needs some smoothing out!04:29
r00t_ninjaalso i have apturl-kde04:30
tsimpsonr00t_ninja: try using the instruction for FF3: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptURL#Firefox%20304:30
Hoppido most people tend to use the KDE package manager thingy or Synaptic?04:30
r00t_ninjathanks04:30
Hoppiat the moment you couldn't draw me away from Synaptic with anything! hehe :)04:31
tsimpsonI just use apt-get04:31
HoppiI mean for a GUI tool!04:31
tsimpsonI don't want to wait 5 seconds for the GUI to load, then 5 mins to search for a package04:31
tsimpsonnot when I have yakuake open all the time04:31
islingtonHoppi: packagekit is still not mature for me , in most castes I use the terminal, to maintain my packages.04:31
hagabakaI use aptitude and kpackagekit04:31
Hoppiislington: yeah I have the same thing, it still feels a little rough around the edges04:32
islingtonCan anyone comment of the stability of lucid at the moment?04:32
tsimpsonhah, stability04:33
tsimpsonthere is no concept of stability for lucid yet04:33
islingtonah its like that is it. Well looks like this will be fun04:33
HoppiI think Lucid will be awesome :)04:34
Hoppiit will fingers crossed be like a more stable Karmic!04:34
islingtonuncross those fingers and bugreport then mate.04:34
Pavel_can anyone help me with java/firefox issues?04:44
Pavel_(9.04, firefox 3.0)04:44
tsimpsonwhat issues?04:45
dhrosaPavel_: my psychic powers are failing me04:47
krezlynI'm back!04:51
leinarcanehellp all, got a problem that i need help with. I can't login to X. sys boots ok get to gui login screen, but when i login ti hangs up and i have to restart x-server and do console login. ttys work fine (that how i'm on now). i've already rtfm'ed,googled, and checked the forum, with no solutions. heres the errors that syslog gives : http://paste.ubuntu.com/341624/04:56
krezlynhey tsimpson, can you take a look at something for me really quick?04:57
tsimpsonkrezlyn: depends what04:57
krezlynhttp://www.kmuddy.com/index.php/Download has a link for binary can you check that out and tell me if i can install that with the package manager..04:58
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tsimpsonkrezlyn: i386 or amd64?05:02
krezlyni guess i38605:06
krezlynim not on a 64bit05:06
tsimpsonkrezlyn: you need to install http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home://mecirt/xUbuntu_9.04/i386/libmxp_0.2.2-1_i386.deb and http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home://mecirt/xUbuntu_9.04/i386/kmuddy_1.0-1_i386.deb05:07
tsimpsonin that order05:07
krezlynok ty05:07
krezlynhow do i install it?05:08
tsimpsondownload them and use "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"05:08
krezlynwill it put a Link in my menu auto?05:10
tsimpsonkrezlyn: maybe, I'm not sure05:11
krezlynit didnt i dont think05:11
tsimpsonif not, you can add it manually05:11
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tom_hello..  I'm new to this so I apologize if I'm doing it wrong, but I have some networking questions05:20
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gorgonzolatom_ just go ahead and ask, dont wait for someone to authorize you05:23
hey_boyI am trying to change my display resolution, but it comes back to previous one on reboot. any ideas05:24
tom_ok..  I have a filesharing network set up between my ubuntu 9.10 desktop and kubuntu 9.10.  I had read permissions on both ends i.e. was able download files back and forth from specific folders in /home, but now suddenly I can't access the desktop from my laptop.  It shows up on the network, but I can' tconnect05:26
tom_hey_boy:  have you tried changing your graphics drivers?  I've had similar problems before05:27
hey_boyi have intel 845 onboard vga.05:27
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tom_anyone have any suggestions for my networking question?  I"ve tried all the standard stuff with samba configuration05:32
gorgonzolatom_ unfortunately, i don;t know anything about samba. but you should just be patient, and ask the question every now and then until someone picks it up...05:33
[SilverFox]anyone know how I could resolve a odd issue "Please upgrade to gettext-[0.16.1]"05:33
[SilverFox]I have 0.17 :p05:33
gorgonzolatom_ oh, and it sounds that your problem is rather not kubuntu specific... you might want to try asking in #ubuntu, as that channel has much more traffic (which is not necesarilly good :) )05:33
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tom_ok no problem...   I think I was able to get it working last time with smb4k, but now it crashes everytime I try to load it..  I've rebooted and reinstalled it several times05:34
tom_I was thinking of going there, but wanted to see if anyone knows about smb4k on here05:34
gorgonzolatom_ i mean, asking ALSO in ubuntu, this is the right channel for that stuff too.05:34
gorgonzolatom_ yeah, stay around, someone might actually help you later. good luck05:35
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et_Any news on the 4.4 beta packages?05:54
tsimpsonnot yet, keep an eye on kubuntu.org05:55
et_I have been. I guess that by "news," I mean "hey, we're having a problem with XXX and it's going to be a few weeks longer."05:58
tsimpsonfirst we'll get it into lucid, then backport to karmic05:59
et_I thought the lucid alpha came with 4.406:00
tsimpsonit comes with most of it06:00
hey_boyhow do I check my chipset on kubuntu karmic06:00
et_hey_boy: what kind of chipset? Motherboard? Video?06:01
hey_boyvideo. mine is onboard vga.06:02
BlueXhey all06:02
tsimpsontry "lspci | grep VGA"06:02
et_"sudo dmidecode" also provides a great deal of information about your computer, but maybe not what you are looking for.06:03
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hey_boyIntel 82845G06:06
et_hey_boy: what made you want to know your chipset?06:09
hey_boymy default resolution is 800x. When I set it to 1024x, it comes back to 800x06:09
BlueXmy internet connection drops sometimes in 9.10..is it possible it will be better in 9.04?06:10
et_Your monitor may not support 1024x06:10
hey_boySo I thought installing proprietary drivers may help06:10
hey_boyit does06:10
hey_boyin Ubuntu9.10 it worked fine06:11
hey_boyin Kubuntu9,10 I am facing this problem06:11
BlueXhey_boy, in response to me?06:11
hey_boyBlueX: no06:12
BlueXk06:12
et_I didn't think that there were proprietary drivers for Intel graphics (besides GMA500).06:12
HoppiBlueX: wireless?06:12
hey_boyBlueX: turn off the firewall and try06:12
BlueXyes atheros wireless internet card06:13
BlueXmy internet disconnects or freezes pretty often06:14
HoppiBlueX: I am the type to adopt the lazy option and get a new supported wireless card or just switch to ethernet. but... do you think you have the right drivers?06:15
BlueXhmm, well, the process to install the mad wifi drivers is very confusing06:15
tsimpsonmy intel graphics and atheros wireless have always worked perfectly06:15
BlueXI have an ar500906:16
yang_So hmm KDE 4.4 Packaging? status?06:16
tsimpsonstatus is: In Progress06:16
yang_tsimpson: is there an ETA ?06:16
tsimpsonnope06:16
yang_tsimpson: there is a lot of big stuff going on with kubuntu, i dont blame them..06:16
et_BlueX: Someone the other day suggested using wicd to correct a network problem.06:17
yang_tsimpson: How much experiance is required to learn to become packager? or what is needed by Kubuntu Project?06:18
tsimpson!packaging | yang_ start here06:19
ubottuyang_ start here: The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports06:19
yang_!packaging | yang_ start here06:19
yang_command that bot responds to ?06:19
tsimpsonit's a skill like any other, so how quickly you become proficient is dependant on you06:19
tsimpsonyeah06:19
tsimpson!bot06:19
ubottuHi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots06:19
yang_tsimpson: is that whats needed rite now? or other area in demand?06:20
tsimpsonwe can always use more packagers06:21
yang_tsimpson: reading.06:24
hyperairhi. how does one configure multiple monitors on kde4?06:46
hyperairfor some reason the multi-monitor section of the configuration applet thing says that i don't have "that kind of setup"06:46
tsimpson!dualhead06:47
ubottuInformation about dual-head on linux can be found on http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/DualHead - See also !Xinerama06:47
tsimpsontry that link06:47
||arifaXI am in KDE and I can currently not lock my machine. I tried via the menu and also via the plasmoid. It does not lock.06:50
||arifaXany ideas?06:50
hyperairtsimpson: i'm interested in a grahpical way of doing this. i've already set up my dual head using xrandr, but i doubt the settings would stick. GNOME had a very nice way of doing this, why doesn't KDE?06:50
darkdelusionshyperair: are you using an nvida based caed06:51
darkdelusionserrr06:51
darkdelusionscard06:51
hyperairdarkdelusions: intel.06:51
darkdelusionshumm06:51
hyperairthe command i used was.. xrandr --output LVDS1 --right-of VGA1; xrandr --output LVDS1 --pos 1280x22406:51
hyperairVGA1 is 1280x1024+0+0 and LVDS1 is 1280x800+1280+22406:52
||arifaXhyperair: krandrtray does quite a good job if it likes your xorg.conf (if one). btw. I found out, that putting a lot of commands in one line xrandr does not like too much in later versions06:52
hyperair||arifaX: those are two commands. passed into a shell, and are executed separately06:52
||arifaXhyperair: I see06:52
hyperairmy xorg.conf is practically non-existent06:53
||arifaXhyperair: good06:53
hyperairwell there are things, but nothing significant06:53
hyperairso am i going to get a straight answer, or shall i just continue using xrandr >_>06:53
||arifaXhyperair: did you try krandrtray?06:53
hyperairnope06:54
hyperairbut i'd have expected it to work out of the box =\06:54
||arifaXhyperair: fire it up it is installed by default I think06:54
darkdelusions||arifaX: I had a similar issue where i couldnt lock, power off, restart, etc till i recived a system update (speaking of your lock issue)06:54
hyperair||arifaX: it's no better than the method i tried earlier. it insists on mirroring my outputs06:55
||arifaXhyperair: I see06:55
||arifaXhyperair: I think it relies too much on xorg.conf06:55
hyperairpfft06:55
hyperairhow useless >_>06:55
hyperairi'd have thought something akin to displayconfig-gtk existed in kde already06:56
* hyperair sighs06:56
darkdelusionshyperair: the only thing i can find is modifying the xorg or using xrandr06:57
* hyperair sighs again06:57
darkdelusionshyperair:06:59
hyperair?06:59
darkdelusionshave you checked under System setting display06:59
hyperairthat's where i first went06:59
hyperairit allows configuration of screen resolutions06:59
hyperairbut that's about it06:59
hyperairscreen resolutions, but it refuses to allow side-by-side orientation or anything other than mirroring07:00
darkdelusionsreally?07:00
hyperairyes, really.07:00
darkdelusionswow07:00
hyperairthere's a multi-monitor configuration section there listed at the side07:01
hyperairbut it refuses to allow me to setup my multiple monitors07:01
darkdelusionsI generally use the nvidia-setting on mine so i cheat07:01
hyperairbecause apparently my setup does not use multiple monitors07:01
hyperairwell you're using a nvidia card. there is nothing else you can use07:01
hyperairnvidia's binary blob refuses to honour xrandr07:01
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darkdelusionswhen i was settin up my old media center i felt your pain thou i had to go in and edit the xorg by hand which was painful07:02
hey_boyHello, all07:02
hyperairdarkdelusions: well, my pain shouldn't be existent with the current X and all.07:03
hey_boyHow do I enable/disable services in Kubuntu?07:03
hyperairdarkdelusions: just so you know, i'm primarily a GNOME user and just testing out KDE4. GNOME had no issues. none at all.07:03
hey_boymay sysvinit editor or service configurator07:04
hey_boyto edit services at different runlevels07:04
darkdelusionshyperair: I agree sometime i find that KDE lack feature that gnome has but I cant stand gnome it make me wanna stab my self in the eye with sharp pointy things07:04
hyperairtoo bad for you. that's generally my opinion of KDE07:04
hyperairwell it was for KDe307:04
hyperairKDE3*07:04
hyperairand 4.007:05
hyperairbut KDE seems to have progressed much.07:05
hyperairi'm still struggling to find things though07:05
hyperairstuff like keyboard shortcuts07:05
hyperairconfigurable screen edges, etc07:05
hyperairwhere are they?07:05
darkdelusionsthe screen edges are there07:05
hyperairi'd just dig inside compiz if i were using GNOME+compiz07:05
hyperairwhere?07:05
darkdelusionssystem settings>Desktop07:06
hyperairaah desktop07:06
hyperairi see07:06
hyperairwhat about the window switcher?07:06
hyperaircan i change it?07:06
hyperairi don't really like the coverflow method..07:06
||arifaXhyperair: its a mess with kde display settings. I use 2 monitors on ati and I only can setup the screens the way I like with xrandr, too. wether amdcccle nor krandrtray nor display settings gui can produce the same as xrandr07:07
darkdelusionsunder Desktop as well07:07
hyperairbut ati is shit anyway >_>07:07
darkdelusionsits on the affects tab07:07
hyperairi'm using intel. it's the best supported gpu driver there is in linux >_>07:07
darkdelusionserr07:07
darkdelusionseffects07:07
hyperairdarkdelusions: ah yes, thanks. i see it07:07
||arifaXhyperair: well you might be right07:07
darkdelusionshyperair: input is gonna be your keyboard short cuts i beleave07:09
hyperairinput eh. okay07:12
hey_boyguys, how do I control services in runlevels.07:12
hey_boyI want to stop cups from starting. How do I do that?07:13
darkdelusionshey_boy: you can try System Setting>Advanced07:14
darkdelusionsService manager07:14
darkdelusionsI may be wrong there07:14
darkdelusionsthat one i do no know07:14
hey_boyI donot see cups there07:16
hey_boynot all services are listed07:16
hey_boyis there a command line utility for doing service changes07:17
hey_boylike sysvinit editor or something?07:18
hyperairdarkdelusions: is there a way to have a shortcut key for alt+tab, but for all windows rather than windows of the current desktop?07:19
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darkdelusionshyperair: not sure i just use it for my current work space07:21
hyperairah okay07:24
hyperairhmmm why is amarok's equalizer disabled, i wonder07:24
Alan502im using kubuntu, and i dont know how do i bring this menu up but the windows are placed all over the screen in a cool way, which i can use to choose a window. How can i activate this effect? it gets always trigerred but i never notice how did i trigger it.07:29
Alan502do i explain myself?07:29
tsimpsontry moving your mouse to the top left corner of the screen07:29
Alan502nice, it worked tsimpson07:30
Alan502not anymore tho07:30
Alan502what especifically has to be done to trigger it?07:30
Alan502can i configre for it to be triggered by a button?07:30
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tsimpsonit's usually done by mouse, but look in system settings -> desktop07:31
Alan502thanks man07:31
amurabihello07:34
hyperairdoes anyone know what's needed in order to enable amarok's equalizer in kubuntu?07:40
Guest33275I just installed songbird, and when it plays a song, there is no sound, and usually no error message. how do i find out the problem and fix it?07:44
dihaehello07:46
dihaeis there any news on the KDE 4.4 packages yet? I'm eagerly waiting for 'em :)07:48
tsimpsonnot yet, keep an eye on kubuntu.org07:49
dihaetsimpson: I've been doing that for a week now, and I expected them to com quite soon now, as the packages all seem to have past staging building in the ppa, and it is included in lucid..07:57
dihaedoesn't matter really, I'm just curious for it ^^07:57
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EvaLuaTehello08:01
EvaLuaTeI'm having a little problem while trying to compile some kde packages. Any idea why i get these errors: http://pastebin.com/m4a979abf ?08:02
tsimpsonEvaLuaTe: you need to install the KDE -dev packages, installing kdebase-worspace-dev is a good start, more help in #kde and #kde-devel08:04
EvaLuaTetsimpson: ok, thanks :)08:06
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Guest40961New to kubuntu and unable to get sound with anything other than amarok. any ideas on how to fix this, please?08:09
dihaeGuest40961: try opening kmix and max the PCM channel08:09
Guest40961when i try to open kmix it begins to load, but quits before it opens08:12
Guest40961is there a command line prompt i can use?08:17
dihaeGuest40961: try alsamixer08:28
Guest40961thank you! this seems to have fixed my problem with adobe flash, songbird, etc, but unfortunately kmix still seems to have a bug :/08:35
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anirudhis there anyway to undo a command?09:26
anirudhi did  sudo mount  /dev/sdb1 /media09:26
anirudhto mount my pen drive. forgot to make a folder within mount and do it09:27
_gmanirudh: umount /dev/sdb109:27
_gmor unmount /media09:27
_gmumount*09:27
anirudhit says device is busy. can i perform killall?09:28
crashdatakill -9 pid09:31
crashdatakill the bastard :)09:31
CQ_if I want to install a package from backports, do I need to add the whole backports deb line, or can I just grab teh package and install it?09:32
senaanirudh: umount -f /dev/sdb109:32
anirudhok09:32
anirudhthank you09:32
tsimpsonCQ_: you need to add the repository09:33
CQ_deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu karmic main   then I take it?09:34
echotoneI installed 9.10 again today and it works but my desktop freezes and jumps and leaves trails after like 5 minutes of being logged on. I am running nvidia geforce 9500gt. the driver got my dual monitors working smooth but now this prob.. know what it is?09:34
anirudhsena: even that doesn't work. it says device busy09:34
CQ_and just apt-get updage;apt-get upgrade09:34
e66is there anything like prism for kubuntu? is there any good browser for kde that uses qt?09:34
senaanirudh: hm that is strange then there is some process that is reading or writing from/to your drvie09:35
senaanirudh: but normally with the force flag it works09:35
anirudhsena: ok..09:35
senaanirudh: can you do dmesg and paste the output of it in http://paste.ubuntu.org09:36
echotonedoes anybody know why my screen would be freezing and stalling? I installed ubuntu today and i have the nvidia driver installed and active...09:37
CQ_echotone: ŵhat do your X logs say?09:39
anirudhit number of lines go above scroll limit (although i have enabled unlimited scrolling)09:39
anirudhok got it09:39
anirudhsena: you want temperature settings?09:39
echotonecw_:i cant really check them. my screen is frozen but the windows that were open while it happened still work.09:39
CQ_then ctrl-alt-f1 to go to a console09:40
echotonethen what?09:40
senaanirudh: no the log of the kernel when you have attached your drive09:40
CQ_look in /var/log for the X logs and see if ther are errors in it09:40
anirudhsena: i performed dmesg command. it shows cpu temp and eth0 details09:41
echotonecq_: I am somewhat helpless when it comes to terminal commands. i havent had much practice with them. would you be able to help me with that?09:41
echotonecq_: would i cd?09:41
CQ_echotone: cd /var/log09:42
senaanirudh: it should have loge also your flash. See how mine looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/341764/09:42
CQ_echotone: then less <filename>   (...that's a pager that lets you scroll through files)09:42
anirudhsena: the command is dmesg?09:44
echotoneCQ_: so now i am at   /var/log$09:44
echotonewhat allows me to view it?09:45
senaanirudh: yes09:45
CQ_echotone: read my next comment09:46
echotonei didnt understand it09:46
anirudhhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/341768/09:47
anirudhsena:09:47
anirudhhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/341768/09:47
CQ_type less syslog09:47
CQ_(for example...) to view that file, 'q' to quit out of it, '?' for help09:47
senaanirudh: lol what a log is it possible that your cpu is overheated09:48
anirudhsena: yes it is possible... i have 4 fans in the cabinet, all working yet cpu is overheated :x09:49
echotoneokay. so to view my error log i would type "less <syslog>"?09:49
CQ_no, just 'less syslog' type just 'ls' to see a list of all teh files in that directory.09:49
_gmanirudh: you need to make sure device is not busy when unmounting it.09:50
senaanirudh: well i can not see much from your log no boot information no device information nothing09:50
anirudhexactly..09:51
anirudhi think ill just restart09:51
_gmmake sure you are not in the path. do a cd .. or cd / or cd ~ to get out of the mounted disk path.09:51
senaanirudh: you how this log normally looks like or?09:51
anirudhfirst time im performing a dmesg command09:51
Arunai have a doubt  i have installed kubuntu new version if i need to show demo if i press Function F4  can i show my desktop  ?09:51
macoare you asking if the hotkey to make vga go works in kubuntu?09:52
Arunayes09:52
macocuz the answer to that is "dunno. try it and find out." its very hardware dependent09:52
echotoneCQ_: ok thanks for clarifying,  once i switched back to my desktop with ctrl alt f7 it works fine. but it cleared my desktop picture to black but nothing is freezing. is there an easier way to check it?09:53
macoif the button doesnt work, there's a tool in systemsettings that should do it09:53
Arunao god.... it may no support09:53
macogo to systemsettings -> display09:53
Arunaany oone tried Function key + F4 ?09:53
macowhat part of "hardware dependent" dont you get?09:54
macoits not always fn+f409:54
macoand itll vary based on your exact machine09:54
macoits not even down to the video card, but the entire motherboard09:54
CQ_echotone: you need the logfiles... they tell you if/where errors are... you can go to that directory with dolphin (or whatever you use) and look through the files with a text editor09:54
macoAruna: if you go to system settings -> display, you can tell it "use the vga. give the vga this resolution and laptop screen this other resolution" etc09:55
Arunamaco: i can see only LVDS1 settins09:55
macothats your laptop screen09:56
macowhat about when you plug in the external?09:56
macoshould add VGA109:56
Arunai need to try.09:56
Arunawill it enable ?09:56
macoit should09:56
Arunaook :)09:56
macoi dont know if the screen will go by itself or if youll have to tell it to in systemsettings09:57
Arunamaco: i will try soon :) thank you09:57
macobut in general, yeah, it should work09:57
Arunasame keeys right Funkey + f409:57
echotoneCQ_: i am looking in /var/log. are all the files in here what just happened? (hence "log") How do i spot errors with xorg? (or whatever just happened to me)09:57
macoAruna: the keyboard key may or may not work09:59
macoAruna: it may be necessary to use your mouse and go to system settings09:59
macoi have one laptop where the button works, and one where it doesnt09:59
Arunaook09:59
echotoneCQ_: I think it was a problem with my "mac" theme. i switched to one that came with the distro and it gave me my wallpaper back and everything. thanks for your help. I didnt see any errors in the logs.10:02
shanklyhi all, any news about ppa with kde 4.4 beta 1?10:08
ghostcubenope10:10
ghostcubestill being worked on10:10
shanklythank you10:11
shanklyi'll wait10:11
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cheeko:-O10:53
cheeko>:-D10:56
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EvaLuaTehello11:47
EvaLuaTewhen trying to compile some kde modules with neonmake I get this error: error: Plasma/Applet: No such file or directory, i googled a bit and it seems that the problem is that qt is not installed in the default location and I would have to set some environment variables to get around this. Could anyone please help me out?11:49
EvaLuaTeactually I meant this error: error: QtCore/QTime: No such file or directory11:49
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sbutiohi, what do i have to install to be able to compile kdelibs?12:29
macoapt-get build-dep kdelibs ?12:29
sbutiomaco: i meant that i want to compile kdegames12:30
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FloodBotK3!netsplit13:04
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit13:04
dihaehi everyone13:05
dihaeI just noticed the 4.4 beta1 packages for karmic have arrived, and I was just wondering if it's possible to install packages per user instead of system wide13:06
dihaeI read that the beta could break desktop effects, so I'd like it if there was a way to test it without breaking my system13:07
dihaeyet, there's no place left on my disk for a dualboot13:08
sbutiohow can i reset kde games score for ksnake?13:11
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crissi_ok question.   Whenever my comp goes into hibernate and i get it back up and running, my sound doesnt work,  until i reboot.  then it does.   any ideas?13:20
ik2Ahigh scores are generally kept in /vars/games/ . Just delete the highscore file for that game.13:20
FloodBotK3!netsplit13:21
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit13:21
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wsjuniorIs webcam support supposed to be working to MSN protocol?>13:55
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gdf_romahello, anyone can tell  me about use of irc ? i' m  newbie14:10
dihaeJust logging on to say thanks to the kubuntu devs for making kde4.4 beta 1 available14:15
dihaebearing in mind it is a beta, it works reasonably well14:16
dihaecompositing does not work, but just before the beta was released, they mentioned that it was a known issue and it would be fixed in the second beta, so I don't care14:17
andrewgodwinwell, compositing works great for me!14:20
andrewgodwinit's looking generally fine, apart from kglobalaccel and its dialogs14:20
orionheloooy14:34
orionplease help me14:34
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lanec42_trying to install fglrx on 9.04, following instructions at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide , aticonfig is reporting "aticonfig: No supported adapters detected"14:35
Guest49394now to run skin air(blue) my dekstop kubuntu 9.10 ???14:35
funcrushcan I controll fan of my laptop with GUI?14:38
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BongoApplication: KDE Daemon (kded4), signal SIGSEGV14:49
BongoThread 1 (Thread 0xb626d8d0 (LWP 5218)):14:50
BongoKDE Daemon has fatal error14:50
Bongoand now :S14:50
FloodBotK3!netsplit14:50
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit14:50
senayes yes yes14:51
Bongosena14:51
Bongoare you replying to me?14:51
senaenjoying the latest and greates firefox-3.5.5 on x86_64 hardy heron14:52
senaBongo: what were you asking?14:52
Bongo<Bongo> KDE Daemon has fatal error14:53
Bongo Application: KDE Daemon (kded4), signal SIGSEGV14:53
BongoThread 1 (Thread 0xb626d8d0 (LWP 5218))14:53
Bongoand more in the log14:53
BongoI was doing aptitude dist-upgrade14:53
Bongoafter clean install of 81014:54
BluesKajHi all14:56
bittin__Hello, if i change my Xorg to something over 800x600 i can't see my mouse pointer what might be wrong then? in Debian15:01
Gintuliswhy Amarok does not play some ogg files, in addition to their does not even include in the playlist, does not play and other audio players, video players although they cope well with, i have installed libxine1-plugins libxine1-ffmpeg15:08
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tntaSomeone here who can help me get my sound work in youtube?16:07
FloodBotK3!netsplit16:11
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit16:11
tnta!wine16:16
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu16:16
tnta!appdb16:17
ubottuThe Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help16:17
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Scunizignome has the "Network Tools" appelate or menu option.. is there something similar for kubuntu?  I'm trying to find a gui app that contains ping, whois, lookup etc.16:19
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bbeckHas anyone installed the 4.4 Beta?16:30
rstob911no it is full of bugs dont like bugs16:31
bbeckAptitude wants to remove a whole mess of x11 packages, so I'm a bit leary of going ahead and doing it.16:32
bbeckrstob911: I don't mind bugs, I just don't want to end up bricking my box.16:33
rstob911i would wait till it becomes stable unless you just like reinstalling16:33
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BluesKajwell, time for my daily ... BBL16:39
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arnoldHello, I have kubuntu 9.10 and I wanted to install gcc. But the packagekit offered me different versions which one is the richt one? 4.4.117:08
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arnoldHello, which gcc version do I need to compile a program for kubuntu 9.10?17:11
tsimpsonthe one from build-essential17:11
arnoldtsimpson17:12
arnoldtsimpson: thank you17:12
motownwhat is the good dock apps for kde?17:15
hunter_hello17:17
hunter_I need support for my Ati drivers in Kubuntu 9.1017:19
hunter_and how configure my S-video17:20
nico_and i need help cause i cant webcam with kopete17:21
motownwhat is a good dock app for kde?17:22
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alex__alguem intende alguma sobre rotas no ubuntu 9.10?17:26
motown!br17:26
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.17:26
julian__join #wow17:27
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motownwhat is a good dock app for kde?17:31
shadeslayerum anyone upgraded to 4.4?17:51
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shadeslayeranyone upgrade to 4.4? anyone?17:55
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jaimiehas anyone had a problem with thier eee after updating?18:14
jaimiei cant login anymore18:14
shadeslayerjaimie: im updating...18:15
Pavel_so I had an adept crash in which adept seems to have uninstalled several programs, adept included, and now when I try to sudo apt-get them I get a dpkg error.  Any tips?18:16
shadeslayer(though itll take 3 hrs)18:16
i_is_brokePavel_, have you tried to do sudo aptitude install -f?18:17
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i_is_brokePavel_, there is another command to, but i dont remember it..18:18
i_is_broke!fixdpkg18:18
jaimieshadeslayer: i have X logs if they help18:19
jaimiefirst it told me there was no i810 module18:19
i_is_broke!dpkg18:19
ubottudpkg is the Debian package maintenance system, which together with apt forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit.18:19
jaimieand now it tells me there is no virtual keyboard18:19
tsimpsonPavel_: try, in konsole, "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and then "sudo apt-get -f install"18:19
alexanderdoes the command sudo easy_install work on KDE?18:20
tsimpsonif you have it installed, sure18:20
jaimiejust tried it alexander and it seems not18:20
i_is_broketsimpson, ty i couldnt remember it..and ubottu is no help either.18:20
tsimpson!aptfix18:21
ubottuIf an APT front-end crashed and your database is locked, try this in a !terminal: « sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a »18:21
Pavel_seems to be working...18:21
shadeslayerjaimie: dunno,i dont know much about kdm and stuff18:21
tsimpson!dpkgfix is <alias> aptfix18:21
ubottuI'll remember that, tsimpson18:21
alexanderjaimie what can i try instead?18:21
tsimpson!fixdpkg is <alias> dpkgfix18:21
i_is_brokeah there it is.18:21
jaimieno idea; im just brave and typed it in :p18:22
Pavel_so, should I now attempt to sudo apt-get amarok and adept?18:22
tsimpsonjaimie: you need python-setuptools installed18:22
i_is_brokePavel_, try sudo aptitude update first and then the others.18:22
jaimiei see oki :)18:23
i_is_broketsimpson, is there a list of commands for ubottu? or just have to remember them all?18:23
jaimiewould that fix my X problem tsimpson?18:23
tsimpson!bot | i_is_broke18:23
ubottui_is_broke: Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots18:23
tsimpsonjaimie: no, for easy_install18:24
tsimpsonI don't have an eee so I can't help there18:24
jaimiehow come when i do dpkg-reconfigure nothing happens?18:25
i_is_brokejaimie, what are you trying to reconfigure?18:28
jaimiexserver-xorg18:31
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Pavel__Adept crashed and uninstalled some things, does anyone know how I could see what programs were uninstalled?18:47
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m3tzhello18:58
IRC-Client2what wat that?19:01
IRC-Client2a split?19:01
IRC-Client2was*19:02
shadeslayerIRC-Client2: freenode's being DDoS'd19:03
shadeslayer(im serious)19:03
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fritzIsOnlinegreetz.. how can i disable "auto-resize-font-size-when-reboot" ?19:14
fritzIsOnlinei don't want my system decides my font sizes19:14
fritzIsOnlinewhy does kde change the all fonts' sizes automatically when restarted? how can i prevent that?19:19
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motownhi. i've installed kubuntu with kubuntu-desktop.. but i got no turn off and restart button.. http://imagebin.org/75605 how can i fix it? thanks19:23
shadeslayermotown: try restarting with : sudo reboot -h NOW19:25
noaXesswhat about thunderbird3, is it available in the kubuntu repos?19:26
motownshadeslayer, ok19:27
shadeslayernoaXess: not right now... maybe a PPA has it... try googling19:27
noaXessshadeslayer: just googling now :)19:27
BugsbaneAnyone know how to get around the "Nepomuk Semantic Desktop needs the Virtuoso RDF server to store its data" error. I have every soprano / virtuoso package installed...19:28
Bugsbane(on 4.4 beta 1)19:28
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shadeslayerBugsbane: did you try restarting the soprano daemon?19:29
BugsbaneI restarted the computer...19:30
motownshadeslayer, with that cmd i only reboot my desktop. but i still have no button for turning off and restarting.. :(19:30
antonAnyone know if update manager can be configured to show the apt install logs during upgrades?19:30
BugsbaneI'd *hope* that would do it. ;)19:30
shadeslayermotown: hmm.. this is on kde 4,4 beta i guess?19:30
shadeslayerBugsbane: that ought to do it,but if there was a error in starting it,then youll need to start it19:31
motownshadeslayer, no this is 4.3.419:31
shadeslayermotown: ok,well can you log in as another user and see if the problem persists?19:32
Bugsbaneshadeslayer: So I don't see any process called soprano anything. How do you start it?19:32
shadeslayerBugsbane: not entirely sure what itll be called in 4.4,but you start any service as : service start (service name)19:33
Bugsbaneshadeslayer: Ah, found it... "sopranod" I'm guessing...19:34
motownshadeslayer, how can i create another user account from konsole?19:34
shadeslayermotown: sudo adduser19:35
shadeslayerBugsbane: if that doesnt work try : nepomukserver : and check the output,also try : kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental : thats all i can think of :P19:38
motownshadeslayer, ok brb19:38
cumulus007Hi, I want to let an application hang on purpose so I can take a screenshot of KWin's "Application not responding" dialog. Anybody here having any suggestions?19:38
cumulus007kde sc 4.4 beta 1 kubuntu 9.1019:38
shadeslayercumulus007: i dont think KDE does the application not responding message :P19:38
tsimpsonshadeslayer: it does19:38
tsimpsonKWin does19:38
shadeslayertsimpson: wow.. ive never seen one :)19:38
cumulus007it does19:38
cumulus007that's a good sign :P19:39
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cumulus007I however want to take a screenshot of it because, from the few times I saw it, I noticed that it is not really user-friendly19:39
tsimpsonthere really isn't a way to simulate it, it only appears when an app does't respond to an event19:39
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cumulus007I'm looking all over KDE to find usability issues so I can report them to the KDE Usability team19:40
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girishadeslayer, it's me motown. with other user account the problem still exist :(19:40
shadeslayergiri: weird... maybe someone here knows a solution19:41
shadeslayergiri: btw does the lancelot menu have the same problem too?19:41
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girishadeslayer, do you mean classic menu style?19:42
shadeslayergiri: no i mean the lancelot launcher,its another kind of launcher19:42
shadeslayergiri: just right click the panel > panel options > add widgets > lancelot launcher19:43
girishadeslayer, i add the widget for lancelot, and yes it shows me restart and turn off button19:44
shadeslayergiri: well i dont know the exact problem but until its solved you can use the lancelot launcher :)19:44
fasrrHello19:45
shadeslayertsimpson: ever heard of someone not getting their shutdown and restart buttons in the launcher?19:45
shadeslayerfasrr: hi19:45
tsimpsonI've heard of it happening, but I don't know why or how to fix it19:46
fasrrWitch Kernel version didt Koala use?19:46
fasrr*did19:46
shadeslayerfasrr: 2.6.3119:46
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tsimpsonperhaps someone in #kde knows?19:46
macokarmic is 2.6.3119:47
macolucid will likely be 2.6.3219:47
fasrrkk, thanks19:47
girishadeslayer, ok thanks :D19:47
shadeslayergiri: please head over to #kde for more detailed troubleshooting :)19:47
macoshadeslayer: i dont have those buttons in kickoff if i "startx" instead of using kdm...19:47
antonBugsbane: what makes you think your'e the only one with a death ray19:47
pasnoxwow #kubuntu resurected :)19:47
antonAnyone know if update manager can be configured to show the apt install logs during upgrades?19:47
pasnoxi just upgraded to kde 4.4, and i got problems with nepomuk, it don't want to start, any ideas ?19:48
shadeslayermaco: well i dont know the first thing about what the problem might be19:48
girishadeslayer, oki doki19:48
Bugsbaneanton: The singed, burning holes where the others used to be...19:48
craig___Wohoo, we exist in the main network again19:48
macoshadeslayer: are you not the admin, maybe? dunno how kdm handles it, but i know gdm doesnt let guest session users shut down19:49
shadeslayerpaolo_: tried : nepomukserver : in konsole?19:49
macocraig___: as opposed to?19:49
shadeslayermaco: no im definitely not the admin :P19:49
Bugsbaneshadeslayer: I've got sopranod running now, but same error asking for Virtuoso RDF :/19:50
shadeslayermaco: oh you meant on my PC,i thought you meant in this channel :D19:50
Bugsbaneshadeslayer: No errors in Konsole from sopranod though19:50
macoshadeslayer: oh heh yes19:50
fasrrwitch paket do i need that i havnt the error "linux/config.h" cant find?19:51
shadeslayerBugsbane: hmm... someone other than you has problems too...19:51
fasrrähm, no such file or diconary19:51
shadeslayerBugsbane: oh yeah its paolo_19:51
Bugsbaneshadeslayer: Thus beginneth the flood...19:51
mostafa_hey there I want to compile OTCL and when I type "sudo ./configure" it shows me this "configure: error: Installation of tcl seems incomplete or can't be found automatically.19:51
fasrrbu i think g++ ist installed, right19:51
mostafa_Please correct the problem by telling configure where tcl is using the argument --with-tcl=/path/to/package"19:51
shadeslayerBugsbane: hehe... maybe its a upstream bug? try #kde19:51
mostafa_but I installed the tcl later .can anyone help me19:51
Bugsbaneshadeslayer: will do19:51
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=== tsimpson changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | Kubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released! | Download Kubuntu 9.10: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu | KDE SC 4.3.4 for Karmic in the Kubuntu PPA: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.4 | KDE SC 4.4 Beta1 in the Kubuntu Beta PPA: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-sc-4.4-beta-1 | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu.com | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic | Guidelines: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/IrcGuidelines
craig___maco, there was a net split, with only 16 users in this channel19:52
shadeslayertsimpson: the last parts chipped off19:52
tsimpsonshadeslayer: yep19:52
shadeslayercraig___: :o19:52
macocraig___: that means there were 16 users on your server in the channel. people on other servers, only 16 of you disappeared19:52
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paolo_?19:52
shadeslayertsimpson: looks perfect :)19:53
macothe irc guidelines link was cut off in the topic before19:53
craig___Maco, yep hence we're back in the main network19:53
macopaolo_: if thats what youre wondering19:53
paolo_im another paolo sorry19:54
craig___I've been using my nickname cragdor on irc for years, now today the nick server is complaining its registered any ideas19:54
macoyou should've registered it first. too bad?19:54
craig___Where would i have register it?19:55
macoabout all there is to it19:55
macowell its too late now, but...19:55
maco!register19:55
ubottuInformation about registering your nickname: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#userregistration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available in #freenode19:55
BugsbaneInteresting that Ubuntu's IRC is running into problems at the same time Freenode's being DDOS'd19:55
macoBugsbane: um ubuntu IS freenode19:55
shadeslayerBugsbane: hehe... ubuntu is just a alias for freenode19:55
* Bugsbane slaps his forehead19:56
shadeslayerBugsbane: btw what about : nepomukserver : and : kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental : ?19:58
shadeslayerbtw is there some DVD ripping tool which can directly rip a ISO?20:00
BugsbaneI think handbrake can do that...20:00
Bugsbaneotherwise I'd try k3b20:00
tsimpsonk3b can do that20:00
shadeslayertsimpson: really?20:00
shadeslayeri dont think so..20:01
tsimpsonshadeslayer: choose to copy the DVD,  and choose to save to disk20:01
tsimpsonit can do it, I have used it ;)20:01
shadeslayertsimpson: i want to rip a video DVD to .avi files.... to be more explicit :P20:01
tsimpsonthen you want k9copy20:02
shadeslayerah..20:02
tsimpson<disclaimer>As long as doing so is legal in your territory</disclaimer>20:02
shadeslayertsimpson: ofcourse... its a DVD of a wedding,its consuming too much space on my HD20:03
shadeslayeri have like only 2GB free of 200 GB's20:04
girisomeone from #kde tell me that i need to change from gdm to kdm to get restart and turn off button, but i don't know how :(20:05
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shadeslayergiri: i know,just : sudo dpkg --configure kdm20:06
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shadeslayer(thats what i think it should be :P)20:06
shadeslayerBugsbane: btw if you do find a fix please share it with us :D20:09
cragdorWohoo! It was a netsplit issue disconnect then reconnect fixed it and my nick is now registered20:09
noaXesshave now thunderbird3 from mozilla downloaded and startet.. the look is very strange.. in kde system settings / appearance / gtk+ is qtcurve as default widjet style.. i thought tb3 is based on qt4?20:09
cragdorThanks maco20:09
girishadeslayer, ok brb20:09
* shadeslayer sees people disappear all over freenode...20:11
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motownshadeslayer, reconfigure gdm to kdm solves the problem.20:16
shadeslayermotown: you didnt tell us earlier that you had gdm :P20:17
motownshadeslayer, hehe sorry, idk if gdm causing the problem :p20:18
soeedo u know what shuld i do to run mldoneky core server ?20:18
shadeslayermotown: hehe... well its good that you got it solved,hope you have a good KDE experience20:18
motownshadeslayer, i will.. thanks.. oh and how can i remove the user account that i already create before? i like to only have one user account :)20:20
pasnoxhm20:21
shadeslayermotown: sudo deluser20:21
pasnoxsince i migrated to kde 4.4 my app does not longer want to start, i rebuilt it, and same problem. here is the gdb log : http://pastebin.ca/171614020:21
pasnoxany ideas ?20:21
shadeslayerum try : rm -rf in the build directory?20:21
shadeslayerpasnox: then rebuild the app20:22
pasnoxshadeslayer: are you reading before telling unrelated things ? i tell i rebuilt the app , already ;)20:22
motownshadeslayer, sudo deluser 'myotheraccount' ?20:23
shadeslayermotown: yeah20:23
shadeslayerpasnox: ok,but did you clear the build dir first?20:23
pasnoxshadeslayer: sure20:23
shadeslayerpasnox: no idea apart from that :p20:24
mostafa_what should i do with this error ?http://paste.ubuntu.com/342124/20:24
pasnoxi got a fresh svn copy and did : qmake-qt4 && make20:24
pasnoxsniff :'(20:24
pasnoxthanks any way20:24
pasnoxlet try #kde20:24
motownshadeslayer, ok done and now how can i check whether its deleted or not without having to log out first?20:24
dihaedoes anyone know if there's a ubuntu package available of qt-creator 1.3 ?20:24
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shadeslayermotown: um... no idea :P20:26
motownshadeslayer, ok im logging out..20:27
cragdormotown, You could use 'User Management' under System settings in kde 4.420:28
shadeslayer:)20:28
gorgonzolahello. i wanted to know, is anyone experiencing issues with dilphin? ie, it takes ages to open, then it's barely usable because it takes ages for each operation...20:37
gorgonzolas/dilphin/dolphin/20:37
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subitohi, i want to make an executable (for windows) for a kde game (that i usually compile with cmake .; make; is that even possible?20:41
loony_subito: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_Cross_Compiling20:43
shadeslayersubito: might be.. we do have kde-windows,so why not>20:43
apparlehi20:47
shadeslayerapparle: hey20:48
antonyhi everyone. I have a problem with an emesene plugin. I contacted the author and he told me to go into the IRC channel and ask something specific about dbus api. Is there anyone to help me with this for a moment?   thanks20:49
loony_antony: so, whats the problem?20:51
antonyCan I write the details here in the channel?20:51
apparle!pastebin | antony20:52
ubottuantony: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic20:52
loony_antony: I am just curious, why don't you use some other IM client that supports the windows live messanger protocol (msn)?20:53
antonywait a moment , I'll tell you.20:54
amichairis there a good kde/qt frontend firewall app (iptables frontend)20:58
mounirk20:59
raindogKwin is giving me some trouble.  Here is the error:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/342149/20:59
heikohallo21:01
heiko#ubuntu.de21:01
soeeyo21:02
antonyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/342150/21:02
antony( don't know if I'm using the pastebin right   :/ )21:02
jjessequestion what should my fstab read so a normal user (myself) can write to my second hard drive formated as ext3?21:04
shadeslayerjjesse: it should just show your / partition and swap21:08
jjesseyes they are there trying to set my 2nd hard drive as writeable21:08
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shadeslayerjjesse: you can manually add a new line to fstab... dont know about the ext3 partition though,i use /dev/sda6 /media/Data ntfs-3g defaults 0 0 for my ntfs partition21:10
amichairalso, when I connect a cellular phone via usb, it shows up as a networkmanager notification - how do I make it connect as a regular storage device instead (or in addition)?21:11
shadeslayeramichair: does the phone have a connect as mass storage function?21:11
amichairshadeslayer: I assumed so... don't they all?21:12
shadeslayeramichair: my blackberry doesnt :P21:12
amichairshadeslayer: how else do u copy photos etc. off the device?21:12
shadeslayeramichair: well just enable that mode when you connect it and you should be good to go21:13
shadeslayeramichair: i just connect my phone via a data cable and it shows up as mass strage21:13
shadeslayer*storage21:13
amichairshadeslayer: oh, u mean it's a setting on the phone to connect either as a network interface or storage device? I'll look for such an option.21:13
shadeslayeramichair: yeah thats what i mean :)21:13
amichairshadeslayer: I don't see such an option. but it should be possible, since I was told it shows up as storage device in windows (it's not my phone)21:16
shadeslayeramichair: hmm.. well when you connect it to the pc via a data cable can you check the dmesg logs?21:18
amichairshadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342162/21:21
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shadeslayeramichair: it should be detected... open dolphin21:22
amichairshadeslayer: nope, not there. also the usb device notification icon shows no connected devices.21:23
raindogSolved my issue.21:23
shadeslayeramichair: weird since dmesg says : [114609.550030] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk21:24
shadeslayeramichair: try : sudo fdisk -l21:24
amichairshadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342164/21:30
shadeslayeramichair: well... its not listed there... what phone is this anyway?21:31
amichairSony Ericsson k750i21:31
shadeslayeramichair: ok you want to copy photos right? try installing digikam21:33
amichairshadeslayer: no, I actually want to upload apps... but if it's not mounted, I don't see how it can access either21:33
shadeslayeri cant figure out why  it wont mount and fdisk wont show it21:34
amichairshadeslayer: is the dmesg output complete? it shows everything a proper connection would?21:34
shadeslayerah i think why.... one sec21:34
shadeslayerhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/47246121:34
shadeslayeramichair: according to that bug,you have the exact same problem21:35
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shadeslayeramichair: ok try copying everything from windows and format it,then itll mount21:36
shadeslayer(well thats what the report says :P )21:36
amichairshadeslayer: nice catch, thanks. I'll try that when I can. though as the reporter states, it's unclear why this works on onlder releases, and not 9.04/9.1021:37
amichairshadeslayer: but thanks a lot for your help - I'll try to take it from there :-)21:37
shadeslayeramichair: no probelm21:38
shadeslayer*problem21:38
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avihaywhy do I have packages that are "held back" when I apt-get upgrade?21:44
noaXesshow can i get thunderbird3 looks nice in my kubuntu? have insalled the latest stable from mozilla.. so now it looks a little bit strange :) old styyle.21:44
FireCrotchavihay: packages are held back when installing the update would require a new package to be installed21:45
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shadeslayeravihay: try : sudo apt-get dist-upgrade21:45
avihayI'm on 9.1021:46
avihayany point trying anyway?21:46
FireCrotchdist-upgrade will install the update and any new packages required21:46
shadeslayeravihay: yeah,youll get the upgrades that are blocked21:46
FireCrotchdist-upgrade really needs to be renamed to something else21:47
shadeslayerFireCrotch: hehe...21:47
avihayok, do you know why it's like that?21:47
FloodBotK1!netsplit21:48
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit21:48
shadeslayeravihay: yeah,youre upgrading to the latest distribution version ( of put_appname_here)21:48
avihayI was under the impression that kubuntu is only issueing dist upgrades every 6 mobthes more or less21:49
macothat is correct21:50
macoohhh21:50
macook yeah so "apt-get dist-upgrade" is poor naming21:50
shadeslayeravihay: yeah,but KDE has a different schedule21:50
macoin aptitude it was renamed to "full-upgrade"21:50
shadeslayermaco: safe-upgrade21:50
macoshadeslayer: no. safe-upgrade is the same as plain upgrade21:51
macobecause the actual semantics of upgrade (or aptitude safe-upgrade) "dont remove anything already installed or install anything new." while apt-get dist-upgrade or aptitude full-upgrade can do those things21:51
avihayso if I dist upgrade now, it will just upgrade me to kde 4.3.4?21:51
macoas long as you havent changed anything in sources.list21:52
FireCrotchdist-upgrade (to new users) tends to imply distribution upgrade (9.04 to 9.10)21:52
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FireCrotchits an issue that I've seen countless times21:52
macoFireCrotch: pretty sure thats why its renamed in aptitude21:54
shadeslayerugh.... my upgrades gone bad21:54
FireCrotchmaco: I would assume so21:54
shadeslayerguys please help with : http://pastebin.ca/171628321:55
avihaybind9-host dnsutils libbind9-50 libdns50 libisc50 libisccc50 libisccfg50 liblwres50 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic sreadahead... especially sreadahead sounds promising21:55
shadeslayerhow do i force a install?22:00
avihayoh, I see that if I use a gui package manager, it suggest the upgrades without indicating anything being blocked or dangerous22:00
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shadeslayernever mind.. dpkg is pretty versatile22:02
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Scuniziwhen I get notified of updates available I click on the icon and go through the motions.. after I have said "ok" to the updates and click "continue" (or whatever it's called) the screen flashes and then the update window disappears.. the next reboot same thing again.. I have to update via cli to get it to stick.. why is that?22:08
shadeslayerScunizi: because kpackagekit isnt ready for general consumption yet22:09
Scunizishadeslayer: arg.. even in 9.10?  (fortunately I'm running it in a vm just for fun)22:09
Scunizioverall I'm pretty impressed with kubuntu's progress.. I'm almost tempted to move from gnome.. but still.. there are a few quirks.22:10
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shadeslayerScunizi: yeah.... my updgrade to 4.4 is going bad each passing second :(22:12
Scunizishadeslayer: I was wondering earlier... is there a gui app for "k" like the gnome Network Tools ..that has ping, whois, lookup etc.. ?22:13
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shadeslayerScunizi: hmm.. no idea22:15
Scunizishadeslayer: I'd hate to use kpackagekit to try looking it up.. I've found it pretty useless for that type of thing22:16
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shadeslayerhehe22:17
shadeslayerbe right back with kde 4.422:17
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ohaydoes anyone know if GRUB is upgraded to 2 when I do a distro upgrade from 9.04, which has the older one ?22:33
coolaleewhere should I send suggestion considering usb netbook edition? It's rather crucial one, since asus eee pc users can't install os otherwise22:38
INIT_61Hope someone can help me with this. I have kubuntu 9.10 fully updated. Flash player 10. every time I try to watch videos on hulu.com I get an error saying flash script has become unstable. I have tried this in firefox, chrome, chromium, wine of firefox all of them do the same thing. Now, I can watch flash videos just fine on youtube and megavideo. I think this is because only hulu is utilizing something in the new flash 10.22:41
hagabakaafter installing kde 4.4 beta packages, desktop effects don't work again :(22:42
INIT_61I have uninstalled flash and reinstalled it by going to adobe's website and getting the right package.22:42
FloodBotK2!netsplit22:43
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit22:43
rstob911mann all day long netsplits enough allready22:43
INIT_61!help22:44
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)22:44
shadeslayerINIT_61: um it works fine in chrome22:44
shadeslayerrekonq went a bit wonky on that site... havent tried out others22:45
INIT_61must be something weird with my setup.22:45
shadeslayerINIT_61: youre runnin chrome from wine?22:45
INIT_61no, native22:45
shadeslayerhmm... well works in chrome,so chow :P22:46
shadeslayeri have 64 bit btw22:46
INIT_61Can you watch a this movie for me and tell me how it goes. :)22:46
shadeslayerINIT_61: from where do you change the themes in kde 4.422:46
shadeslayerINIT_61: sorry got to go in a few mins22:46
INIT_61I changed the themes by going to system settings22:47
INIT_61Would themes effect this. I have been changing themes alot22:48
FloodBotK2!netsplit22:55
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit22:55
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Xand3rhey, i want to run dualview, but in systemsettings  under sceen settings i cant activa it, onky clones, but i want 2 screens23:00
Xand3rhow i can get it work?23:00
ikdizaynhi23:01
ikdizaynXand3r:  how are you23:03
Xand3rhi ikdizayn i am fine and you?23:03
ikdizaynthanks23:03
Xand3rikdizayn: do you know how i get multiple monitors working with the systemsettings?23:04
doatrHello23:04
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doatrWhat was the problem? http://codepad.org/Ou2Pw4LI23:05
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Xand3rdoatr: you are shure you have installed all depends?23:07
slixIf I have a question about kubuntu but it's related to the boot-up process, should I ask it here or in #ubuntu ?23:07
shadeslayerslix: either channel23:07
ikdizaynXand3r:  no23:08
doatrXand3r: i write     apt-get install build-essential23:08
doatrthink it install the g++ and gcc, right?23:08
slixOkay, thanks shadeslayer.23:09
dtchenyes, it will, doatr23:09
doatror isnt the linux/config.h in the build-essential?23:09
INIT_6about week ago I have been unable to watch flash videos on hulu.com I can watch them fine on youtube or megavideo. I have tried firefox, chrome(native), chromium(native), firefox(wine) all of them give me a error: " A script in this movie is causing adobe flash player 10 to run slowly. if it continues to run, your computer may become unresponsive. do you want to abort the script?" If I continue it gives the same error. I have d23:10
jesse2Can anyone recommend a tool for changing the GRUB bootsplash (ie background picture)?23:10
doatrjesse2: google knows a easy tutorial for grub223:10
doatrdtchen: do you know it?23:11
jesse2roger23:11
ikdizaynDo you know Kurdish23:12
Xand3rdoatr: no *.h files are in *-dev packages23:12
doatrhmm.23:12
doatrXand3r: do you know in witch dev packages?23:13
FloodBotK2!netsplit23:15
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit23:15
INIT_63I found out what was happing to my flash. The wireless router what I connect to has been having a lot of connection resets and I guess that has been messing with the flash script and causing errors. The videos pop right up when I tether it to my g1 through USB.23:19
ikdizaynINIT_63:  No23:22
INIT_63no what?23:22
coolaleewhy during kubuntu netbook instalation, when i'm choosing partition order, after each change i have to wait more than 10 minutes? it's not formatting disk yet, it is?23:24
ikdizaynINIT_63: trash off the computer23:24
Xand3rdoatr: did you got my message?23:24
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doatrXand3r: no23:31
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doatrXand3r: can you repeat it?23:32
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doatrXand3r: ?? :)23:34
Xand3rshur23:35
Xand3rsure^^23:35
hagabakahow can I revert from kde 4.4 beta packages to the latest packages in official repositories? I have removed the beta ppa23:35
Xand3rdoatr: you have to install linux-libc-dev i think23:35
doatrkk, thanks23:35
Xand3rif ist works or not, let me know it23:35
macohagabaka: download the debs from packages.ubuntu.com and install them with "dpkg -i --force-downgrade *deb"23:36
Xand3rhagabaka: did you run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get full-upgrade"23:37
macothe packages from the ppa are a newer version23:37
hagabakaI ran that with aptitude23:37
macofull-upgrade is sure not gonna *downgrade* to the repository versions23:37
Xand3rmaco: ok than i was wrong sorry23:37
macoyou need to manually install the older official versions that can be found on packages.ubuntu.com23:37
doatrXand3r: the packageKit has a X behind "linux-libc-dev"23:37
doatrit was installed, yet23:37
Xand3rok than you may read that http://www.debianhelp.org/node/1189323:38
dtchenmaco: yes it will only if you've configured pinning correctly.23:40
dtchenmaco: the priority is vital.23:40
macodtchen: oh pinning. fun. ugh.23:40
macodtchen: if you want to explain pinning, be my guest23:40
dtchenI can't do any better than apt_preferences(5)23:40
doatrXand3r: i didnt understand the answer with the c++ code23:42
doatrwhat do with it?23:43
Xand3rsudo /usr/include/linux/config.h23:43
Xand3rsudo kate /usr/include/linux/config.h23:44
Xand3ri mean23:44
Xand3rit shuld be emty23:44
dtchenwell, in a default install of *buntu, it will be23:44
doatruuuh23:45
dtchenwhat are you trying to do?23:45
Xand3rthan paste http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/8623:45
Xand3rand save23:45
doatrXand3r: i have no config.h under user/include/linux  oO23:45
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Xand3rthats right23:45
Xand3ryou create on23:45
doatraha!! okay23:45
Xand3rits an old thing i think so you have to cheat a littel23:46
ubuntu_hola23:47
Xand3rdoatr: does it work?23:47
egofluxis there a way to extract a password protected .rar without the password?23:48
Xand3regoflux: why you want to do that?23:52
egofluxdownloaded a protected movie23:52
Xand3ri think there is no way23:53
Xand3ror have you problem with the gui?23:53
egofluxno, the gui is very simple...but i can't watch the movie23:53
egofluxwell, that's ok...can't really expect much i guess23:53
Xand3rmaybe somen else can helb but not me, sorry23:54
egofluxits cool...thanx for trying tho23:54
phoenixzQuestion.. First, I love Linux, love Kubuntu and won't change.. But.. Why is is that with every version upgrade I do, new stuff stops working? I have not had a single Kubuntu version that worked perfectly, there were always problems. Then the sound buttons worked, upgrade, and they didnt anymore. next version they do.. same for hibernate, auto screenlocking when I close the laptop lid (Have that now, when I open the lid, screen stays black), X went from23:54
phoenixz great to crap to reasonable.. Are newer versions not supposed to work better then older versions?23:54
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