[00:06] <Num83rGuy> Though I am sure this has been asked a thousand times, are the 4.4 beta packages coming for Karmic or are they Lucid only?
[00:09] <genii> Num83rGuy: They should eventually be in karmic backports
[00:12] <Num83rGuy> OK thanks, I will wait.
[00:16] <[SilverFox]> What is the best way to uninstall my old  fglrx (ati) so when i reset my new nvidia card will detect auto and install like was a fresh os install
[00:27] <p1erre_> Hi folks. Is there someone that has installed KDE 4 from trunk branch while using 4.3 without breaking the system?
[00:28] <Scunizi> SilverFox.. your nick is hard to TAB autocomplete even with the "[" present.. after install.. reboot to the rescue kernel and choose "fix video" or something to that effect.. that should take care of it.
[00:29] <Scunizi> probably because he's not logged in any more.. :(
[00:31] <wavis_> can anyone give me a tip on escaping characters? eg export CLASSPATH="/jexts/\*" leaves me with the string /jexts/\*  and I'm trying to avoid the backslash
[00:32] <wavis_> if i leave out the backslash it expands to the contents of the directory. also not what I want.
[00:32] <dtchen> why would you need an asterisk in your $CLASSPATH?
[00:33] <wavis_> I have a directory that i drop jars into for testing on a REPL
[00:34] <wavis_> setting and unsetting the classpath is inconvenient, and java 6 understands the asterisk
[00:34] <wavis_> not the point, anyway
[00:36] <wavis_> there should be some way to escape a star character, seriously
[00:41] <dtchen> seems to work fine in the shell that I use (mksh)
[00:41] <dtchen> crimsun@errno:~/tmp $ touch \*
[00:41] <dtchen> crimsun@errno:~/tmp $ rm -- \*
[00:43] <wavis_> I'm discovering that when echoing the variable I need to quote it. so i actually got it right for one of those, but when I echoed, the path was expanded, which was fine. I just thought it was expanded before.
[00:43] <wavis_> echo "$CLASSPATH"
[00:43] <wavis_> instead of
[00:43] <wavis_> echo $CLASSPATH
[00:43] <tsimpson> use single quotes
[00:44] <wavis_> tsimpson: i actually want to see the contents of the variable
[00:44] <wavis_> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/102049/how-do-i-escape-the-wildcard-asterisk-character-in-bash
[00:45] <tsimpson> using single quotes disables shell expansion
[00:45] <tsimpson> echo '*' will print exactly *
[00:46] <wavis_> right, so
[00:46] <wavis_> export CLASSPATH='/jexts/*'
[00:46] <wavis_> is correct
[00:46] <wavis_> thanks :)
[00:47] <funcrush> can I see the contents in buffer??
[00:48] <tsimpson> what buffer?
[00:48] <ubuntu> hola
[00:48] <funcrush> I did copy some text in konsole but i can't paste it
[00:48] <ubuntu> alguien habla español?
[00:48] <tsimpson> !es | ubuntu
[00:49] <ubuntu> y como entro
[00:49] <tsimpson> funcrush: Ctrl-Shift-V or middle click should paste
[00:49] <ubuntu> disculpa mi ignorancia
[00:49] <funcrush> tsimpson: yep i know, but it doesn't work
[00:49] <tsimpson> ubuntu: /j #kubuntu-es
[00:50] <tsimpson> funcrush: how did you copy?
[00:50] <ubuntu> thank you
[00:50] <funcrush> tsimpson: 3 ways, selecting with drag, right click and hit copy, ctrl+shift+c
[00:51] <tsimpson> it should work then, do you have klipper running?
[00:51] <funcrush> tsimpson: yup it running
[00:51] <tsimpson> click on the klipper icon in the system tray and you should be able to see what's copied
[00:52] <funcrush> tsimpson: the contents not exist... do u know anything?
[00:53] <tsimpson> it works here, all the ways you've said
[00:54] <funcrush> tsimpson: well... it can be solved by restart the program, konsole.
[00:54] <funcrush> but shortly, the doesn't work again
[00:54] <tsimpson> seems very odd
[00:55] <funcrush> ok. anyway thank you for ur helping :)
[01:01] <phant0m_> does karmic koala support a kde desktop?
[01:01] <tsimpson> yes
[01:01] <phant0m_> where can i get it pls?
[01:01] <phant0m_> its not in my repo
[01:01] <tsimpson> you install the "kubuntu-desktop" package
[01:02] <phant0m_> from their main site i presume
[01:02] <mw> hello, i have the following problem: after haveing sucessfully (re)boot my machine, i can hear sound on the speakers and, if i plug them in, on headphones. after bringing the machine to standby or hibernate, and reactivateing it, i can hear sound ONLY if i use headphones. the speakers do not seem to work, but using headphones, sound works as normal. this is a hp/compaq notebook with in integrated intel sound card.
[01:02] <tsimpson> it's in main, yes
[01:02] <mw> phant0m_: just install the package like you would install any other package.
[01:02] <phant0m_> it doesnt appear in my repo
[01:02] <tsimpson> phant0m_: then you have none enabled
[01:03] <tsimpson> the package is in main, which should be enabled on all installs
[01:03] <phant0m_> no i have the opportunity to down other packages just not kubuntu
[01:03] <tsimpson> it's called "kubuntu-desktop"
[01:03] <tsimpson> it is there
[01:03] <phant0m_> ok brb
[01:04] <phant0m_> educational desktop for kubuntu that right ?
[01:05] <tsimpson> no
[01:05] <tsimpson> that's edubuntu-desktop-kde
[01:06] <tsimpson> you want kubuntu-desktop with the description "Kubuntu desktop system"
[01:06] <phant0m_> k ill ceck again
[01:06] <phant0m_> check*
[01:07] <phant0m_> no not there
[01:07] <tsimpson> it should be, update your package list
[01:07] <phant0m_> how?
[01:08] <tsimpson> I'm not sure how to in gnome, look for an update button or similar
[01:08] <phant0m_> k
[01:09] <kubian> tsimpson: in terminal  sudo aptitude update
[01:09] <kubian> or apt-get update
[01:09] <phant0m_> t
[01:09] <phant0m_> ta
[01:09] <tsimpson> make sure you close the package manager first
[01:09] <tsimpson> otherwise it'll fail
[01:09] <phant0m_> k
[01:10] <phant0m_> hmmm no still not there
[01:10] <kubian> r u using synaptic?
[01:10] <phant0m_> err
[01:11] <phant0m_> software centre
[01:11] <kubian> use synaptic and then refresh list
[01:11] <tsimpson> that doesn't show all packages
[01:11] <phant0m_> ok
[01:12] <tsimpson> or you can just do "sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" in a terminal
[01:12] <phant0m_> right im gonna stick to using synaptic rather than software centre its misleading and that annoys me lol
[01:13] <kubian> USoftCenter is crap
[01:13] <phant0m_> yes i just came to that realisation myself
[01:13] <phant0m_> im also havin a minor issue with opera
[01:13] <tsimpson> that is being addressed for lucid
[01:13] <kubian> kde can be installed with gnome but it's preferred to just use kubuntu if you like kde
[01:14] <phant0m_> yes i do like kde
[01:14] <phant0m_> i prefer it
[01:14] <tsimpson> yay, netsplits
[01:14] <phant0m_> sigh thats so annoying
[01:14] <kubian> if u mix with gnome there would be a lot of clutter in the menu
[01:15] <tsimpson> if you prefer KDE, why not install Kubuntu rather than Ubuntu?
[01:15] <phant0m_> i didnt get an option between the two
[01:15] <tsimpson> you download the Kubuntu CD rather than the Ubuntu one...
[01:15] <phant0m_> lol stands to reason
[01:16] <phant0m_> didnt know that before otherwise i would have
[01:16] <tsimpson> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu for next time
[01:16] <phant0m_> ty
[01:16] <phant0m_> i was going to ask if you could help with an issue regarding opera pls
[01:17] <tsimpson> well we don't make opera, so it'll be hard ;)
[01:17] <phant0m_> lol there a help channel here
[01:18] <r00t_> Howdy so iw as randomly typing away at keys and spinning my  mouswheel when my desktop got very small and went up tnot the top left hand corner and now theres just a grey/white checkerboard in place of where the desktop orignaly was.
[01:19] <tsimpson> r00t_: you zoomed out to the activity view, there should be a magnifying glass icon under the desktop to zoom back in
[01:19] <mw> r00t_: try windows key + scroll down
[01:20] <tsimpson> phant0m_: well opera is proprietary so there is only unofficial support in ##opera
[01:20] <phant0m_> ok ty
[01:21] <r00t_> thanks
[01:26] <r00t_> whats a decent irc client? like one that would come with preprogramed irc servers?
[01:27] <phant0m_> xchat
[01:27] <phant0m_> konversation
[01:27] <tsimpson> I don't get why that's so important to people, but xchat comes with a build-in server list
[01:27] <phant0m_> mirc
[01:27] <tsimpson> and mirc is not "decent" by any stretch
[01:27] <krezlyn> Hello
[01:28] <phant0m_> lol worked for me
[01:28] <krezlyn> can anyone tell me how i would manage my harddrives in kubuntu?
[01:29] <phant0m_> do you have raid?
[01:29] <phant0m_> firewire
[01:29] <tsimpson> perhaps you should explain exactly what you mean by "manage" :)
[01:31] <ubuntu_> what happen with the kubuntu 9.10 install:
[01:31] <krezlyn> well, i have a second harddrive which is ext3, however i do not have access to it on my system currently like i cant find where i can access it
[01:31] <ubuntu_> i got read olny msg
[01:32] <ubuntu_> ;j #ubuntu-br
[01:32] <tsimpson> krezlyn: see if it's listed in the "places" list in dolphin
[01:33] <krezlyn> haha it is thanks
[01:34] <ubuntu> hello
[01:35] <ubuntu> what chanel
[01:35] <ubuntu> is the hacking?
[01:35] <tsimpson> depends on your definition of hacking
[01:35] <ubuntu> or chatfriends
[01:36] <ubuntu> nivel web
[01:36] <tsimpson> if you want a chat channel, try #defocus
[01:37] <ubuntu> thank you
[01:37] <ubuntu> sorry for my english
[01:37] <ubuntu> is not perfect
[01:38] <krezlyn> what is a good music player (mp3's)
[01:38] <tsimpson> amarok
[01:38] <krezlyn> Hmmmm ok..
[01:38] <phant0m_> no
[01:38] <phant0m_> not amarok
[01:38] <tsimpson> just make sure to install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package
[01:38] <krezlyn> what is kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[01:39] <phant0m_> codecs
[01:39] <tsimpson> it contains, amongst other things, mp3 codecs
[01:39] <krezlyn> ok
[01:39] <phant0m_> stupid us law
[01:39] <krezlyn> im doing the software update at the moment.
[01:39] <tsimpson> not just codecs, flash, lame, unrar, sun-java and microsoft fonts
[01:39] <krezlyn> phant0m_: what would you recommend for music player?
[01:40] <krezlyn> whats lame?
[01:40] <tsimpson> krezlyn: join #ubuntu-bots and ask "what is the best music player?"
[01:40] <phant0m_> rhythmbox
[01:40] <phant0m_> amarok is considered the best
[01:40] <phant0m_> but i disagree
[01:40] <tsimpson> lame is an mp4 encoder
[01:40] <phant0m_> because of the stupid law
[01:41] <tsimpson> erm, mp3, not 4
[01:41] <phant0m_> lol
[01:41] <krezlyn> will amorak automaticlly rescan my media directory for new mp3's?
[01:41] <tsimpson> yes
[01:41] <tsimpson> if you want it to
[01:41] <phant0m_> yes may cause errors tho
[01:41] <phant0m_> another player thats very good is songbird
[01:41] <tsimpson> I've used amarok for years, never had an issues with it
[01:42] <tsimpson> try several, see what you like
[01:42] <phant0m_> the problem i kept having with it was it didnt recognize alot of the music
[01:43] <krezlyn> how do i find out the mountpoint of my second hard drive?
[01:43] <phant0m_> same with songbird but you dont have to mess with restricted formats like with amarok
[01:43] <tsimpson> open konsole, type "mount"
[01:44] <tsimpson> phant0m_: that's not amarok's fault
[01:44] <phant0m_> no i know it isnt
[01:45] <phant0m_> if the problem didnt exist i would carryon using amarok
[01:45] <Goliath> hi
[01:45] <phant0m_> hi
[01:45] <Goliath> i want to remove an application from the kde menu, i used the editor but the app remains
[01:47] <Goliath> phant0m_:
[01:47] <Goliath> do you know
[01:56] <Goliath> sd
[01:56] <Goliath> sad
[01:56] <Goliath> as
[01:56] <Goliath> dsa
[01:56] <Goliath> dasds
[01:56] <Goliath> HEY
[01:56] <Goliath> takis:
[01:56] <Goliath> eeeeeeeeeeee mouni
[01:56] <phant0m_> ?
[01:56] <tsimpson> Goliath: do not flood
[01:57] <Goliath> tsimpson: how can i remove an entry from kde menu
[01:57] <tsimpson> if someone knows, they'll answer
[01:57] <tsimpson> as far as I know, the way you did it should have worked
[01:57] <phant0m_> sorry goliath i use gnome
[01:57] <phant0m_> and i was doin something else
[01:57] <Goliath> tsimpson: it appeears....
[01:58] <Goliath> tsimpson: its still there
[02:01] <Goliath> how can i run kde menu editor from command line?
[02:01] <Goliath> or from cli
[02:02] <tsimpson> run kmenuedit
[02:02] <tsimpson> and "cli" is "command line"
[02:02] <Goliath> i kno
[02:02] <Goliath> w
[02:04] <Goliath> tsimpson: when i type this i get a gui again
[02:04] <Goliath> tsimpson: cant i just edit a conf file
[02:04] <Goliath> or something
[02:05] <tsimpson> that is the kde menu editor, yes
[02:05] <tsimpson> it's made of lots of .desktop files, user specific entries are in ~/.local/share/applications
[02:06] <Goliath> its still in there
[02:07] <Goliath> a desktop file
[02:13] <scott> Hey all, New to Linux and I have a few Questions.  Anyone free?
[02:18] <scott____> Anyone around to take a question?
[02:46] <Goliath> [04:46] <Goliath> i removed using menu editor an application from kde4 and now even if i reinstall the program the application isnt shown
[02:46] <Goliath> [04:46] <Goliath> how do i fix it
[02:50] <Goliath> i removed using menu editor an application from kde4 and now even if i reinstall the program the application isnt shown. How do i fix it?
[02:51] <tsimpson> Goliath: stop repeating that so much
[02:51] <Goliath> tsimpson: it drives me crazy
[02:51] <tsimpson> fine, but don't repeat it so much
[02:52] <nbnds> already tried to set the menu to defaults?
[02:55] <Goliath> nbnds: dude this was ingenius! it worked
[02:56] <nbnds> glad i could help
[02:58] <Logan_Lockwood> Hi
[02:58] <Logan_Lockwood> How can i format (reformat?) mi pendrive easily in Kubuntu?
[02:59] <Goliath> nbnds: btw a guy told me this
 Goliath: when u delete something it will show up in ~/.config/menus/
[03:02] <nbnds> in "system" category there is an app "startup disk creator, just press on "format" button there
[03:25] <gorgonzola> hello. i was just wondering: what happened with networkmanager plasma widget?
[03:26] <Logan_Lockwood> Networkmanager is not being used anymore (i think)
[03:26] <gorgonzola> is that a kde thing, or is it just us?
[03:27] <gorgonzola> wait. you mean the backend? it sure is. it is used through Knetworkmanager.. but we used to have a plasmoid
[03:27] <gorgonzola> i have been trying to find out what happened with it for months...
[03:28] <nbnds> may be it is possible to download this plasmid from kde-looks.org?
[03:28] <Logan_Lockwood> Wait
[03:28] <Logan_Lockwood> frome repositorys
[03:29] <Logan_Lockwood> there is it.
[03:29] <Logan_Lockwood> plasma-widget-network-manager
[03:29] <Logan_Lockwood> is that what you're looking for?
[03:33] <ElTimo> hi, any word on the kde 4.4 packages for karmic?
[03:33] <tsimpson> not yet, keep an eye on kubuntu.org
[03:33] <ElTimo> ><
[03:33] <ElTimo> i compiled it from source, but it just wasnt the same
[03:35] <muri_one_> does kde work well with alternative window managers?
[03:36] <tsimpson> it should, as long as those window managers are standards compliant
[03:49] <ElTimo> seriously, what's making the packages take so long? is it the upgrade to qt 4.6 that's holding things up or something?
[03:52] <kishore> why is koffice-kde4 for lucid still at version 2.0.2 when there has been a new post for 2.1?
[03:52] <kishore> *news*
[03:53] <kishore> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/koffice-2.1.0
[03:54] <tsimpson> kishore: because 2.1 is only in the PPA
[03:54] <kishore> tsimpson: that is true for karmic but for lucid it should be in the main repos
[03:54] <kishore> or so says the aticle
[03:54] <tsimpson> no, because it was never put into the repos
[03:55] <tsimpson> you should file a bug to remind devs about it
[03:55] <kishore> sure. against koffice?
[03:55] <tsimpson> yes please
[03:55] <krezlyn> does anyone here play muds?
[03:57] <[SilverFox]> is this okay? 118604 frames in 5.0 seconds?
[03:57] <[SilverFox]> I really not sure how to increase my frames
[03:58] <kishore> tsimpson: Interesting... the page https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice says lucid contains 2.1
[03:59] <tsimpson> I think I remember it being called "koffice-kde4" by mistake
[04:00] <kishore> tsimpson: Yes. I am referring to koffice-kde4. koffice still refers to 1.6
[04:00] <tsimpson> !info koffice-kde4 lucid
[04:02] <Roasted> whats up everyone
[04:02] <tsimpson> kishore: it's still waiting to build
[04:02] <kishore> !info koffice build
[04:02] <tsimpson> kishore: build is compiling
[04:02] <kishore> !info koffice lucid
[04:03] <tsimpson> stupid splits
[04:03] <Roasted> Does Kubuntu and Ubuntu do anything differently in terms of the way they handle/disperse network load? I have 2 setups at work, both identical laptops - 1 ubuntu, 1 kubuntu, imaging 15 laptops at a time. The Kubuntu LAN is always slower than the Ubuntu LAN - I can't figure out why.
[04:03] <kishore> tsimpson: still building? It's been a while since the realease and the announcement. PPA's have been available for a while...
[04:04] <tsimpson> kishore: build in lucid, not PPAs. building a package in the repos is somewhat more complex than a PPA
[04:04] <tsimpson> Roasted: no, the only difference between Ubuntu and Kubuntu is the GUI, all the base/kernel/networking stuff is identical
[04:05] <Roasted> tsimpson - that's what I thought too. But I cannot trace back ANY differences in the setups whatsoever.
[04:05] <kishore> tsimpson: ah ok. will have to wait then
[04:06] <Roasted> two gigabit switches, same make/model. two laptops, same make/model. All Cat5e network cable. 15 laptops per LAN to image - same image on each LAN. I just can't trace what might be different. And the thing is, I USED to have Ubuntu on my laptop and it was fine, once I put Kubuntu on it I noticed the slight lag in getting images cranked out.
[04:06] <Roasted> It'll cater to 2 laptops and they'll be pushing out full bore speeds, while the rest linger around the 3-4 hour mark (obscenely high). Once the 2 speed demons are done, the remainder take off fu ll bore. It's very strange.
[04:07] <Roasted> Meanwhile the Ubuntu lan is pretty much handling all clients at the same range/speed.
[04:07] <krezlyn> Any mudders on?
[04:08] <tsimpson> krezlyn: try asking in the freenode social channel (#defocus)
[04:09] <krezlyn> i need help with installing a mud client on kde
[04:09] <krezlyn> kubuntu
[04:09] <tsimpson> !find mud
[04:09] <Roasted> tsimpson - do you just moderate kubuntu, or you an actual kubuntu fan?
[04:10] <tsimpson> Roasted: I've used Kubuntu since early 2005 :)
[04:10] <krezlyn> im trying to find a package for kmuddy.. i know the names i just to find one with a kubuntu package
[04:10] <tsimpson> !find kmuddy
[04:10] <Roasted> tsimpson - nice. I've used it for about, ohh, a month. :P
[04:10] <tsimpson> krezlyn: I see kildclient in the repos
[04:10] <tsimpson> !info kildclient
[04:11] <krezlyn> im also hoping to find one that had a automapper
[04:11] <tsimpson> kmuddy was probably discontinued
[04:12] <novice> On Karmic how do I make the whole system go to sleep, automaticaly?
[04:12] <krezlyn> can i install a rpm or make a rpm a .deb ?
[04:12] <tsimpson> !alien
[04:13] <Hoppi> yeah i think it is possible to convert them, but i wouldn't recommend it
[04:13] <tsimpson> novice: look in system settings -> advanced -> power management
[04:13] <Hoppi> 99.9% of the time you can get a .deb anyway :)
[04:13] <tsimpson> or get a .tar.gz and install the fun way ;)
[04:14] <Hoppi> lol nooooo! not fun!
[04:14] <Hoppi> hehe
[04:14] <novice> tsimpson: yeah im there just not sure how to set it
[04:14] <tsimpson> novice: look under the Edit Profiles section
[04:14] <tsimpson> and the "When the system is idle for more than ..." part
[04:16] <novice> tsimpson: suspend to ram?
[04:17] <tsimpson> that's probably what you want
[04:17] <novice> tsimpson: is that like sleep?
[04:17] <tsimpson> what does sleep do exactly?
[04:17] <krezlyn> anyone use Quassel?
[04:17] <tsimpson> suspend to disk mean to save the RAM to the disk and power off
[04:17] <Hoppi> Quassel is cool!
[04:17] <novice> tsimpson: just want to were i press the space bar it wakes back up
[04:17] <Hoppi> i'm using it right now :)
[04:17] <tsimpson> suspend to ram means to turn most stuff off, but keep the power on
[04:17] <Roasted> hoppi - you from forums?
[04:18] <Hoppi> Roasted: you know it :)
[04:18] <tsimpson> novice: then suspend to ram is it
[04:18] <Hoppi> Roasted: hehe
[04:18] <krezlyn> [20:17:28] <krezlyn> anyone use Quassel? < -- that is how it should show on my chat screen, but for some reason there likes 3 inchs of space between the time stamp and ppl's, name. how can i fix this?
[04:18] <Roasted> haaaaaa I thought so!
[04:18] <Hoppi> ^_^
[04:18] <Hoppi> Roasted: I was very pleased when I discovered this IRC!
[04:18] <Roasted> hoppi - gotta love it man.
[04:18] <novice> tsimpson: Thank you very much and windows 7 is a lie!
[04:18] <Roasted> these channels may not be overly populated but they can sometimes yield quick answers
[04:19] <tsimpson> Roasted: you can create debs from .tar.gz installs with http://giftwrap.tuxfamily.org/index.php?post/2009/05/29/GIftWrap-0.11 if you're interested
[04:19] <Roasted> tsimpson - was that supposed to be directed towards me?
[04:19] <Hoppi> Roasted: yeah man this channel feels like home! Even viewing it through a rather awesome Qt4 IRC client =D
[04:19] <Roasted> lol
[04:19] <tsimpson> nope :p
[04:20] <Hoppi> Qt4 > all other toolkits
[04:20] <tsimpson> krezlyn
[04:20] <Hoppi> hehehehe :)
[04:20] <tsimpson> Hoppi: agreed, but keep things on topic please
[04:20] <Roasted> hoppi - I convinced my long time gnome using linux fan cousin to try kde
[04:20] <Hoppi> tsimpson: isn't the topic KDE? ._.
[04:20] <krezlyn> yes tsimpson?
[04:20] <tsimpson> krezlyn: about the .rpm, if you can get a .tar.gz, you can create a .deb from ir installs with http://giftwrap.tuxfamily.org/index.php?post/2009/05/29/GIftWrap-0.11 if you're interested
[04:20] <Hoppi> Roasted: nice one! KDE is just wicked, it's so well made and designed :)
[04:21] <tsimpson> Hoppi: read the topic and see
[04:21] <Hoppi> tsimpson: ok ._.
[04:21] <tsimpson> but the short answer is "nope" :)
[04:21] <r00t_ninja> how can i use the aptlinex plugin with firefox ?
[04:21] <Roasted> hoppi - yeah man. I dig it. I <3 gnome too, and xfce. Decisions decisions. :P
[04:21] <krezlyn> tsimpson: can you help me with my Quassel irc question?
[04:21] <Hoppi> tsimpson: owh! just support? but... where can I go for random loosely Kubuntu related banter? =D
[04:21] <tsimpson> Hoppi: #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:21] <Roasted> probably kubuntu-offtopic
[04:22] <Hoppi> oo yay!
[04:22] <Hoppi> sorry, i do like helping users of course, but I also like just hanging out with other kubuntu enthusiasts :)
[04:22] <tsimpson> krezlyn: if you mouse over near the space between nicks and the messages, a bar will magically appear
[04:23] <tsimpson> click and drag that
[04:23] <tsimpson> (maybe poor GUI design though)
[04:23] <krezlyn> no none
[04:23] <tsimpson> it's there, but difficult to find
[04:23] <krezlyn> nevermind
[04:23] <krezlyn> found it
[04:24] <Hoppi> yes a very blurry bar!
[04:24] <Hoppi> but it works well :)
[04:24] <krezlyn> if i move it to much tho
[04:24] <krezlyn> it makes ppl's names disappear
[04:24] <krezlyn> anyone recommend a diffrent or better irc client?
[04:25] <tsimpson> it may bounce bacn when some speaks
[04:25] <tsimpson> try konversation
[04:25] <Hoppi> krezlyn: well I'm afriad that's the price of moving it too far! lol
[04:25] <tsimpson> it's what we used before quassel, because there was no KDE4 client then
[04:25] <Hoppi> tsimpson: oh so is konversation qt3 based?
[04:25] <tsimpson> not any more
[04:26] <Hoppi> oh
[04:26] <tsimpson> 1.1.x was KDE3, 1.2.x is KDE4
[04:26] <Hoppi> i should try that too then :)
[04:26] <krezlyn> what was the name of that restricted package?
[04:26] <tsimpson> it's in the karmic repos
[04:26] <Hoppi> Quassel is gorgeous but, can't hurt to try another! :)
[04:26] <tsimpson> kubuntu-restricted-extras
[04:26] <krezlyn> ok tsimpson you use Quassel or another?
[04:26] <tsimpson> kubuntu is more featureful than quassel, because it's older :)
[04:26] <r00t_ninja> how can i get apt:// links to work with firefox in kubuntu?
[04:27] <tsimpson> krezlyn: until konversation gets proper scripting support, I'm kind of locked into xchat
[04:27] <Roasted> uis there a difference from ubuntu-restricted-extras to kubuntu-restricted-extras?
[04:27] <krezlyn> brb
[04:27] <tsimpson> Roasted: yeah, the ubuntu ones install all the gstreamer stuff rather than the xine codec
[04:28] <Roasted> ah, makes sense
[04:28] <Hoppi> I wish offtopic wasn't so quiet ._. I just want somewhere where we can all oooo and ahhhh over the coolness of KDE rofl :)
[04:28] <tsimpson> r00t_ninja: try installing the "apturl" package
[04:28] <r00t_ninja> that requires alot of gnome stuff
[04:29] <r00t_ninja> aptlinex should work though?
[04:29] <dhrosa> i've accidentally zoomed out of the plasma desktop, how do I zoom back in?
[04:29] <dhrosa> nevermind
[04:29] <Hoppi> dhrosa: yeah that really confuses me too! It's the only thing I don't understand o.O  I think it needs some smoothing out!
[04:30] <r00t_ninja> also i have apturl-kde
[04:30] <tsimpson> r00t_ninja: try using the instruction for FF3: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptURL#Firefox%203
[04:30] <Hoppi> do most people tend to use the KDE package manager thingy or Synaptic?
[04:30] <r00t_ninja> thanks
[04:31] <Hoppi> at the moment you couldn't draw me away from Synaptic with anything! hehe :)
[04:31] <tsimpson> I just use apt-get
[04:31] <Hoppi> I mean for a GUI tool!
[04:31] <tsimpson> I don't want to wait 5 seconds for the GUI to load, then 5 mins to search for a package
[04:31] <tsimpson> not when I have yakuake open all the time
[04:31] <islington> Hoppi: packagekit is still not mature for me , in most castes I use the terminal, to maintain my packages.
[04:31] <hagabaka> I use aptitude and kpackagekit
[04:32] <Hoppi> islington: yeah I have the same thing, it still feels a little rough around the edges
[04:32] <islington> Can anyone comment of the stability of lucid at the moment?
[04:33] <tsimpson> hah, stability
[04:33] <tsimpson> there is no concept of stability for lucid yet
[04:33] <islington> ah its like that is it. Well looks like this will be fun
[04:34] <Hoppi> I think Lucid will be awesome :)
[04:34] <Hoppi> it will fingers crossed be like a more stable Karmic!
[04:34] <islington> uncross those fingers and bugreport then mate.
[04:44] <Pavel_> can anyone help me with java/firefox issues?
[04:44] <Pavel_> (9.04, firefox 3.0)
[04:45] <tsimpson> what issues?
[04:47] <dhrosa> Pavel_: my psychic powers are failing me
[04:51] <krezlyn> I'm back!
[04:56] <leinarcane> hellp all, got a problem that i need help with. I can't login to X. sys boots ok get to gui login screen, but when i login ti hangs up and i have to restart x-server and do console login. ttys work fine (that how i'm on now). i've already rtfm'ed,googled, and checked the forum, with no solutions. heres the errors that syslog gives : http://paste.ubuntu.com/341624/
[04:57] <krezlyn> hey tsimpson, can you take a look at something for me really quick?
[04:57] <tsimpson> krezlyn: depends what
[04:58] <krezlyn> http://www.kmuddy.com/index.php/Download has a link for binary can you check that out and tell me if i can install that with the package manager..
[05:02] <tsimpson> krezlyn: i386 or amd64?
[05:06] <krezlyn> i guess i386
[05:06] <krezlyn> im not on a 64bit
[05:07] <tsimpson> krezlyn: you need to install http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home://mecirt/xUbuntu_9.04/i386/libmxp_0.2.2-1_i386.deb and http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home://mecirt/xUbuntu_9.04/i386/kmuddy_1.0-1_i386.deb
[05:07] <tsimpson> in that order
[05:07] <krezlyn> ok ty
[05:08] <krezlyn> how do i install it?
[05:08] <tsimpson> download them and use "sudo dpkg -i filename.deb"
[05:10] <krezlyn> will it put a Link in my menu auto?
[05:11] <tsimpson> krezlyn: maybe, I'm not sure
[05:11] <krezlyn> it didnt i dont think
[05:11] <tsimpson> if not, you can add it manually
[05:20] <tom_> hello..  I'm new to this so I apologize if I'm doing it wrong, but I have some networking questions
[05:23] <gorgonzola> tom_ just go ahead and ask, dont wait for someone to authorize you
[05:24] <hey_boy> I am trying to change my display resolution, but it comes back to previous one on reboot. any ideas
[05:26] <tom_> ok..  I have a filesharing network set up between my ubuntu 9.10 desktop and kubuntu 9.10.  I had read permissions on both ends i.e. was able download files back and forth from specific folders in /home, but now suddenly I can't access the desktop from my laptop.  It shows up on the network, but I can' tconnect
[05:27] <tom_> hey_boy:  have you tried changing your graphics drivers?  I've had similar problems before
[05:27] <hey_boy> i have intel 845 onboard vga.
[05:32] <tom_> anyone have any suggestions for my networking question?  I"ve tried all the standard stuff with samba configuration
[05:33] <gorgonzola> tom_ unfortunately, i don;t know anything about samba. but you should just be patient, and ask the question every now and then until someone picks it up...
[05:33] <[SilverFox]> anyone know how I could resolve a odd issue "Please upgrade to gettext-[0.16.1]"
[05:33] <[SilverFox]> I have 0.17 :p
[05:33] <gorgonzola> tom_ oh, and it sounds that your problem is rather not kubuntu specific... you might want to try asking in #ubuntu, as that channel has much more traffic (which is not necesarilly good :) )
[05:34] <tom_> ok no problem...   I think I was able to get it working last time with smb4k, but now it crashes everytime I try to load it..  I've rebooted and reinstalled it several times
[05:34] <tom_> I was thinking of going there, but wanted to see if anyone knows about smb4k on here
[05:34] <gorgonzola> tom_ i mean, asking ALSO in ubuntu, this is the right channel for that stuff too.
[05:35] <gorgonzola> tom_ yeah, stay around, someone might actually help you later. good luck
[05:54] <et_> Any news on the 4.4 beta packages?
[05:55] <tsimpson> not yet, keep an eye on kubuntu.org
[05:58] <et_> I have been. I guess that by "news," I mean "hey, we're having a problem with XXX and it's going to be a few weeks longer."
[05:59] <tsimpson> first we'll get it into lucid, then backport to karmic
[06:00] <et_> I thought the lucid alpha came with 4.4
[06:00] <tsimpson> it comes with most of it
[06:00] <hey_boy> how do I check my chipset on kubuntu karmic
[06:01] <et_> hey_boy: what kind of chipset? Motherboard? Video?
[06:02] <hey_boy> video. mine is onboard vga.
[06:02] <BlueX> hey all
[06:02] <tsimpson> try "lspci | grep VGA"
[06:03] <et_> "sudo dmidecode" also provides a great deal of information about your computer, but maybe not what you are looking for.
[06:06] <hey_boy> Intel 82845G
[06:09] <et_> hey_boy: what made you want to know your chipset?
[06:09] <hey_boy> my default resolution is 800x. When I set it to 1024x, it comes back to 800x
[06:10] <BlueX> my internet connection drops sometimes in 9.10..is it possible it will be better in 9.04?
[06:10] <et_> Your monitor may not support 1024x
[06:10] <hey_boy> So I thought installing proprietary drivers may help
[06:10] <hey_boy> it does
[06:11] <hey_boy> in Ubuntu9.10 it worked fine
[06:11] <hey_boy> in Kubuntu9,10 I am facing this problem
[06:11] <BlueX> hey_boy, in response to me?
[06:12] <hey_boy> BlueX: no
[06:12] <BlueX> k
[06:12] <et_> I didn't think that there were proprietary drivers for Intel graphics (besides GMA500).
[06:12] <Hoppi> BlueX: wireless?
[06:12] <hey_boy> BlueX: turn off the firewall and try
[06:13] <BlueX> yes atheros wireless internet card
[06:14] <BlueX> my internet disconnects or freezes pretty often
[06:15] <Hoppi> BlueX: I am the type to adopt the lazy option and get a new supported wireless card or just switch to ethernet. but... do you think you have the right drivers?
[06:15] <BlueX> hmm, well, the process to install the mad wifi drivers is very confusing
[06:15] <tsimpson> my intel graphics and atheros wireless have always worked perfectly
[06:16] <BlueX> I have an ar5009
[06:16] <yang_> So hmm KDE 4.4 Packaging? status?
[06:16] <tsimpson> status is: In Progress
[06:16] <yang_> tsimpson: is there an ETA ?
[06:16] <tsimpson> nope
[06:16] <yang_> tsimpson: there is a lot of big stuff going on with kubuntu, i dont blame them..
[06:17] <et_> BlueX: Someone the other day suggested using wicd to correct a network problem.
[06:18] <yang_> tsimpson: How much experiance is required to learn to become packager? or what is needed by Kubuntu Project?
[06:19] <tsimpson> !packaging | yang_ start here
[06:19] <yang_> !packaging | yang_ start here
[06:19] <yang_> command that bot responds to ?
[06:19] <tsimpson> it's a skill like any other, so how quickly you become proficient is dependant on you
[06:19] <tsimpson> yeah
[06:19] <tsimpson> !bot
[06:20] <yang_> tsimpson: is that whats needed rite now? or other area in demand?
[06:21] <tsimpson> we can always use more packagers
[06:24] <yang_> tsimpson: reading.
[06:46] <hyperair> hi. how does one configure multiple monitors on kde4?
[06:46] <hyperair> for some reason the multi-monitor section of the configuration applet thing says that i don't have "that kind of setup"
[06:47] <tsimpson> !dualhead
[06:47] <tsimpson> try that link
[06:50] <||arifaX> I am in KDE and I can currently not lock my machine. I tried via the menu and also via the plasmoid. It does not lock.
[06:50] <||arifaX> any ideas?
[06:50] <hyperair> tsimpson: i'm interested in a grahpical way of doing this. i've already set up my dual head using xrandr, but i doubt the settings would stick. GNOME had a very nice way of doing this, why doesn't KDE?
[06:51] <darkdelusions> hyperair: are you using an nvida based caed
[06:51] <darkdelusions> errr
[06:51] <darkdelusions> card
[06:51] <hyperair> darkdelusions: intel.
[06:51] <darkdelusions> humm
[06:51] <hyperair> the command i used was.. xrandr --output LVDS1 --right-of VGA1; xrandr --output LVDS1 --pos 1280x224
[06:52] <hyperair> VGA1 is 1280x1024+0+0 and LVDS1 is 1280x800+1280+224
[06:52] <||arifaX> hyperair: krandrtray does quite a good job if it likes your xorg.conf (if one). btw. I found out, that putting a lot of commands in one line xrandr does not like too much in later versions
[06:52] <hyperair> ||arifaX: those are two commands. passed into a shell, and are executed separately
[06:52] <||arifaX> hyperair: I see
[06:53] <hyperair> my xorg.conf is practically non-existent
[06:53] <||arifaX> hyperair: good
[06:53] <hyperair> well there are things, but nothing significant
[06:53] <hyperair> so am i going to get a straight answer, or shall i just continue using xrandr >_>
[06:53] <||arifaX> hyperair: did you try krandrtray?
[06:54] <hyperair> nope
[06:54] <hyperair> but i'd have expected it to work out of the box =\
[06:54] <||arifaX> hyperair: fire it up it is installed by default I think
[06:54] <darkdelusions> ||arifaX: I had a similar issue where i couldnt lock, power off, restart, etc till i recived a system update (speaking of your lock issue)
[06:55] <hyperair> ||arifaX: it's no better than the method i tried earlier. it insists on mirroring my outputs
[06:55] <||arifaX> hyperair: I see
[06:55] <||arifaX> hyperair: I think it relies too much on xorg.conf
[06:55] <hyperair> pfft
[06:55] <hyperair> how useless >_>
[06:56] <hyperair> i'd have thought something akin to displayconfig-gtk existed in kde already
[06:56]  * hyperair sighs
[06:57] <darkdelusions> hyperair: the only thing i can find is modifying the xorg or using xrandr
[06:57]  * hyperair sighs again
[06:59] <darkdelusions> hyperair:
[06:59] <hyperair> ?
[06:59] <darkdelusions> have you checked under System setting display
[06:59] <hyperair> that's where i first went
[06:59] <hyperair> it allows configuration of screen resolutions
[06:59] <hyperair> but that's about it
[07:00] <hyperair> screen resolutions, but it refuses to allow side-by-side orientation or anything other than mirroring
[07:00] <darkdelusions> really?
[07:00] <hyperair> yes, really.
[07:00] <darkdelusions> wow
[07:01] <hyperair> there's a multi-monitor configuration section there listed at the side
[07:01] <hyperair> but it refuses to allow me to setup my multiple monitors
[07:01] <darkdelusions> I generally use the nvidia-setting on mine so i cheat
[07:01] <hyperair> because apparently my setup does not use multiple monitors
[07:01] <hyperair> well you're using a nvidia card. there is nothing else you can use
[07:01] <hyperair> nvidia's binary blob refuses to honour xrandr
[07:02] <darkdelusions> when i was settin up my old media center i felt your pain thou i had to go in and edit the xorg by hand which was painful
[07:02] <hey_boy> Hello, all
[07:03] <hyperair> darkdelusions: well, my pain shouldn't be existent with the current X and all.
[07:03] <hey_boy> How do I enable/disable services in Kubuntu?
[07:03] <hyperair> darkdelusions: just so you know, i'm primarily a GNOME user and just testing out KDE4. GNOME had no issues. none at all.
[07:04] <hey_boy> may sysvinit editor or service configurator
[07:04] <hey_boy> to edit services at different runlevels
[07:04] <darkdelusions> hyperair: I agree sometime i find that KDE lack feature that gnome has but I cant stand gnome it make me wanna stab my self in the eye with sharp pointy things
[07:04] <hyperair> too bad for you. that's generally my opinion of KDE
[07:04] <hyperair> well it was for KDe3
[07:04] <hyperair> KDE3*
[07:05] <hyperair> and 4.0
[07:05] <hyperair> but KDE seems to have progressed much.
[07:05] <hyperair> i'm still struggling to find things though
[07:05] <hyperair> stuff like keyboard shortcuts
[07:05] <hyperair> configurable screen edges, etc
[07:05] <hyperair> where are they?
[07:05] <darkdelusions> the screen edges are there
[07:05] <hyperair> i'd just dig inside compiz if i were using GNOME+compiz
[07:05] <hyperair> where?
[07:06] <darkdelusions> system settings>Desktop
[07:06] <hyperair> aah desktop
[07:06] <hyperair> i see
[07:06] <hyperair> what about the window switcher?
[07:06] <hyperair> can i change it?
[07:06] <hyperair> i don't really like the coverflow method..
[07:07] <||arifaX> hyperair: its a mess with kde display settings. I use 2 monitors on ati and I only can setup the screens the way I like with xrandr, too. wether amdcccle nor krandrtray nor display settings gui can produce the same as xrandr
[07:07] <darkdelusions> under Desktop as well
[07:07] <hyperair> but ati is shit anyway >_>
[07:07] <darkdelusions> its on the affects tab
[07:07] <hyperair> i'm using intel. it's the best supported gpu driver there is in linux >_>
[07:07] <darkdelusions> err
[07:07] <darkdelusions> effects
[07:07] <hyperair> darkdelusions: ah yes, thanks. i see it
[07:07] <||arifaX> hyperair: well you might be right
[07:09] <darkdelusions> hyperair: input is gonna be your keyboard short cuts i beleave
[07:12] <hyperair> input eh. okay
[07:12] <hey_boy> guys, how do I control services in runlevels.
[07:13] <hey_boy> I want to stop cups from starting. How do I do that?
[07:14] <darkdelusions> hey_boy: you can try System Setting>Advanced
[07:14] <darkdelusions> Service manager
[07:14] <darkdelusions> I may be wrong there
[07:14] <darkdelusions> that one i do no know
[07:16] <hey_boy> I donot see cups there
[07:16] <hey_boy> not all services are listed
[07:17] <hey_boy> is there a command line utility for doing service changes
[07:18] <hey_boy> like sysvinit editor or something?
[07:19] <hyperair> darkdelusions: is there a way to have a shortcut key for alt+tab, but for all windows rather than windows of the current desktop?
[07:21] <darkdelusions> hyperair: not sure i just use it for my current work space
[07:24] <hyperair> ah okay
[07:24] <hyperair> hmmm why is amarok's equalizer disabled, i wonder
[07:29] <Alan502> im using kubuntu, and i dont know how do i bring this menu up but the windows are placed all over the screen in a cool way, which i can use to choose a window. How can i activate this effect? it gets always trigerred but i never notice how did i trigger it.
[07:29] <Alan502> do i explain myself?
[07:29] <tsimpson> try moving your mouse to the top left corner of the screen
[07:30] <Alan502> nice, it worked tsimpson
[07:30] <Alan502> not anymore tho
[07:30] <Alan502> what especifically has to be done to trigger it?
[07:30] <Alan502> can i configre for it to be triggered by a button?
[07:31] <tsimpson> it's usually done by mouse, but look in system settings -> desktop
[07:31] <Alan502> thanks man
[07:34] <amurabi> hello
[07:40] <hyperair> does anyone know what's needed in order to enable amarok's equalizer in kubuntu?
[07:44] <Guest33275> I just installed songbird, and when it plays a song, there is no sound, and usually no error message. how do i find out the problem and fix it?
[07:46] <dihae> hello
[07:48] <dihae> is there any news on the KDE 4.4 packages yet? I'm eagerly waiting for 'em :)
[07:49] <tsimpson> not yet, keep an eye on kubuntu.org
[07:57] <dihae> tsimpson: I've been doing that for a week now, and I expected them to com quite soon now, as the packages all seem to have past staging building in the ppa, and it is included in lucid..
[07:57] <dihae> doesn't matter really, I'm just curious for it ^^
[08:01] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[08:02] <EvaLuaTe> I'm having a little problem while trying to compile some kde packages. Any idea why i get these errors: http://pastebin.com/m4a979abf ?
[08:04] <tsimpson> EvaLuaTe: you need to install the KDE -dev packages, installing kdebase-worspace-dev is a good start, more help in #kde and #kde-devel
[08:06] <EvaLuaTe> tsimpson: ok, thanks :)
[08:09] <Guest40961> New to kubuntu and unable to get sound with anything other than amarok. any ideas on how to fix this, please?
[08:09] <dihae> Guest40961: try opening kmix and max the PCM channel
[08:12] <Guest40961> when i try to open kmix it begins to load, but quits before it opens
[08:17] <Guest40961> is there a command line prompt i can use?
[08:28] <dihae> Guest40961: try alsamixer
[08:35] <Guest40961> thank you! this seems to have fixed my problem with adobe flash, songbird, etc, but unfortunately kmix still seems to have a bug :/
[09:26] <anirudh> is there anyway to undo a command?
[09:26] <anirudh> i did  sudo mount  /dev/sdb1 /media
[09:27] <anirudh> to mount my pen drive. forgot to make a folder within mount and do it
[09:27] <_gm> anirudh: umount /dev/sdb1
[09:27] <_gm> or unmount /media
[09:27] <_gm> umount*
[09:28] <anirudh> it says device is busy. can i perform killall?
[09:31] <crashdata> kill -9 pid
[09:31] <crashdata> kill the bastard :)
[09:32] <CQ_> if I want to install a package from backports, do I need to add the whole backports deb line, or can I just grab teh package and install it?
[09:32] <sena> anirudh: umount -f /dev/sdb1
[09:32] <anirudh> ok
[09:32] <anirudh> thank you
[09:33] <tsimpson> CQ_: you need to add the repository
[09:34] <CQ_> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu karmic main   then I take it?
[09:34] <echotone> I installed 9.10 again today and it works but my desktop freezes and jumps and leaves trails after like 5 minutes of being logged on. I am running nvidia geforce 9500gt. the driver got my dual monitors working smooth but now this prob.. know what it is?
[09:34] <anirudh> sena: even that doesn't work. it says device busy
[09:34] <CQ_> and just apt-get updage;apt-get upgrade
[09:34] <e66> is there anything like prism for kubuntu? is there any good browser for kde that uses qt?
[09:35] <sena> anirudh: hm that is strange then there is some process that is reading or writing from/to your drvie
[09:35] <sena> anirudh: but normally with the force flag it works
[09:35] <anirudh> sena: ok..
[09:36] <sena> anirudh: can you do dmesg and paste the output of it in http://paste.ubuntu.org
[09:37] <echotone> does anybody know why my screen would be freezing and stalling? I installed ubuntu today and i have the nvidia driver installed and active...
[09:39] <CQ_> echotone: ŵhat do your X logs say?
[09:39] <anirudh> it number of lines go above scroll limit (although i have enabled unlimited scrolling)
[09:39] <anirudh> ok got it
[09:39] <anirudh> sena: you want temperature settings?
[09:39] <echotone> cw_:i cant really check them. my screen is frozen but the windows that were open while it happened still work.
[09:40] <CQ_> then ctrl-alt-f1 to go to a console
[09:40] <echotone> then what?
[09:40] <sena> anirudh: no the log of the kernel when you have attached your drive
[09:40] <CQ_> look in /var/log for the X logs and see if ther are errors in it
[09:41] <anirudh> sena: i performed dmesg command. it shows cpu temp and eth0 details
[09:41] <echotone> cq_: I am somewhat helpless when it comes to terminal commands. i havent had much practice with them. would you be able to help me with that?
[09:41] <echotone> cq_: would i cd?
[09:42] <CQ_> echotone: cd /var/log
[09:42] <sena> anirudh: it should have loge also your flash. See how mine looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/341764/
[09:42] <CQ_> echotone: then less <filename>   (...that's a pager that lets you scroll through files)
[09:44] <anirudh> sena: the command is dmesg?
[09:44] <echotone> CQ_: so now i am at   /var/log$
[09:45] <echotone> what allows me to view it?
[09:45] <sena> anirudh: yes
[09:46] <CQ_> echotone: read my next comment
[09:46] <echotone> i didnt understand it
[09:47] <anirudh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/341768/
[09:47] <anirudh> sena:
[09:47] <anirudh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/341768/
[09:47] <CQ_> type less syslog
[09:47] <CQ_> (for example...) to view that file, 'q' to quit out of it, '?' for help
[09:48] <sena> anirudh: lol what a log is it possible that your cpu is overheated
[09:49] <anirudh> sena: yes it is possible... i have 4 fans in the cabinet, all working yet cpu is overheated :x
[09:49] <echotone> okay. so to view my error log i would type "less <syslog>"?
[09:49] <CQ_> no, just 'less syslog' type just 'ls' to see a list of all teh files in that directory.
[09:50] <_gm> anirudh: you need to make sure device is not busy when unmounting it.
[09:50] <sena> anirudh: well i can not see much from your log no boot information no device information nothing
[09:51] <anirudh> exactly..
[09:51] <anirudh> i think ill just restart
[09:51] <_gm> make sure you are not in the path. do a cd .. or cd / or cd ~ to get out of the mounted disk path.
[09:51] <sena> anirudh: you how this log normally looks like or?
[09:51] <anirudh> first time im performing a dmesg command
[09:51] <Aruna> i have a doubt  i have installed kubuntu new version if i need to show demo if i press Function F4  can i show my desktop  ?
[09:52] <maco> are you asking if the hotkey to make vga go works in kubuntu?
[09:52] <Aruna> yes
[09:52] <maco> cuz the answer to that is "dunno. try it and find out." its very hardware dependent
[09:53] <echotone> CQ_: ok thanks for clarifying,  once i switched back to my desktop with ctrl alt f7 it works fine. but it cleared my desktop picture to black but nothing is freezing. is there an easier way to check it?
[09:53] <maco> if the button doesnt work, there's a tool in systemsettings that should do it
[09:53] <Aruna> o god.... it may no support
[09:53] <maco> go to systemsettings -> display
[09:53] <Aruna> any oone tried Function key + F4 ?
[09:54] <maco> what part of "hardware dependent" dont you get?
[09:54] <maco> its not always fn+f4
[09:54] <maco> and itll vary based on your exact machine
[09:54] <maco> its not even down to the video card, but the entire motherboard
[09:54] <CQ_> echotone: you need the logfiles... they tell you if/where errors are... you can go to that directory with dolphin (or whatever you use) and look through the files with a text editor
[09:55] <maco> Aruna: if you go to system settings -> display, you can tell it "use the vga. give the vga this resolution and laptop screen this other resolution" etc
[09:55] <Aruna> maco: i can see only LVDS1 settins
[09:56] <maco> thats your laptop screen
[09:56] <maco> what about when you plug in the external?
[09:56] <maco> should add VGA1
[09:56] <Aruna> i need to try.
[09:56] <Aruna> will it enable ?
[09:56] <maco> it should
[09:56] <Aruna> ook :)
[09:57] <maco> i dont know if the screen will go by itself or if youll have to tell it to in systemsettings
[09:57] <Aruna> maco: i will try soon :) thank you
[09:57] <maco> but in general, yeah, it should work
[09:57] <Aruna> same keeys right Funkey + f4
[09:57] <echotone> CQ_: i am looking in /var/log. are all the files in here what just happened? (hence "log") How do i spot errors with xorg? (or whatever just happened to me)
[09:59] <maco> Aruna: the keyboard key may or may not work
[09:59] <maco> Aruna: it may be necessary to use your mouse and go to system settings
[09:59] <maco> i have one laptop where the button works, and one where it doesnt
[09:59] <Aruna> ook
[10:02] <echotone> CQ_: I think it was a problem with my "mac" theme. i switched to one that came with the distro and it gave me my wallpaper back and everything. thanks for your help. I didnt see any errors in the logs.
[10:08] <shankly> hi all, any news about ppa with kde 4.4 beta 1?
[10:10] <ghostcube> nope
[10:10] <ghostcube> still being worked on
[10:11] <shankly> thank you
[10:11] <shankly> i'll wait
[10:53] <cheeko> :-O
[10:56] <cheeko> >:-D
[11:47] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[11:49] <EvaLuaTe> when trying to compile some kde modules with neonmake I get this error: error: Plasma/Applet: No such file or directory, i googled a bit and it seems that the problem is that qt is not installed in the default location and I would have to set some environment variables to get around this. Could anyone please help me out?
[11:49] <EvaLuaTe> actually I meant this error: error: QtCore/QTime: No such file or directory
[12:29] <sbutio> hi, what do i have to install to be able to compile kdelibs?
[12:29] <maco> apt-get build-dep kdelibs ?
[12:30] <sbutio> maco: i meant that i want to compile kdegames
[13:04] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[13:05] <dihae> hi everyone
[13:06] <dihae> I just noticed the 4.4 beta1 packages for karmic have arrived, and I was just wondering if it's possible to install packages per user instead of system wide
[13:07] <dihae> I read that the beta could break desktop effects, so I'd like it if there was a way to test it without breaking my system
[13:08] <dihae> yet, there's no place left on my disk for a dualboot
[13:11] <sbutio> how can i reset kde games score for ksnake?
[13:20] <crissi_> ok question.   Whenever my comp goes into hibernate and i get it back up and running, my sound doesnt work,  until i reboot.  then it does.   any ideas?
[13:20] <ik2A> high scores are generally kept in /vars/games/ . Just delete the highscore file for that game.
[13:21] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[13:55] <wsjunior> Is webcam support supposed to be working to MSN protocol?>
[14:10] <gdf_roma> hello, anyone can tell  me about use of irc ? i' m  newbie
[14:15] <dihae> Just logging on to say thanks to the kubuntu devs for making kde4.4 beta 1 available
[14:16] <dihae> bearing in mind it is a beta, it works reasonably well
[14:17] <dihae> compositing does not work, but just before the beta was released, they mentioned that it was a known issue and it would be fixed in the second beta, so I don't care
[14:20] <andrewgodwin> well, compositing works great for me!
[14:20] <andrewgodwin> it's looking generally fine, apart from kglobalaccel and its dialogs
[14:34] <orion> heloooy
[14:34] <orion> please help me
[14:35] <lanec42_> trying to install fglrx on 9.04, following instructions at http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Jaunty_Installation_Guide , aticonfig is reporting "aticonfig: No supported adapters detected"
[14:35] <Guest49394> now to run skin air(blue) my dekstop kubuntu 9.10 ???
[14:38] <funcrush> can I controll fan of my laptop with GUI?
[14:49] <Bongo> Application: KDE Daemon (kded4), signal SIGSEGV
[14:50] <Bongo> Thread 1 (Thread 0xb626d8d0 (LWP 5218)):
[14:50] <Bongo> KDE Daemon has fatal error
[14:50] <Bongo> and now :S
[14:50] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[14:51] <sena> yes yes yes
[14:51] <Bongo> sena
[14:51] <Bongo> are you replying to me?
[14:52] <sena> enjoying the latest and greates firefox-3.5.5 on x86_64 hardy heron
[14:52] <sena> Bongo: what were you asking?
 KDE Daemon has fatal error
[14:53] <Bongo>  Application: KDE Daemon (kded4), signal SIGSEGV
[14:53] <Bongo> Thread 1 (Thread 0xb626d8d0 (LWP 5218))
[14:53] <Bongo> and more in the log
[14:53] <Bongo> I was doing aptitude dist-upgrade
[14:54] <Bongo> after clean install of 810
[14:56] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[15:01] <bittin__> Hello, if i change my Xorg to something over 800x600 i can't see my mouse pointer what might be wrong then? in Debian
[15:08] <Gintulis> why Amarok does not play some ogg files, in addition to their does not even include in the playlist, does not play and other audio players, video players although they cope well with, i have installed libxine1-plugins libxine1-ffmpeg
[16:07] <tnta> Someone here who can help me get my sound work in youtube?
[16:11] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[16:16] <tnta> !wine
[16:17] <tnta> !appdb
[16:19] <Scunizi> gnome has the "Network Tools" appelate or menu option.. is there something similar for kubuntu?  I'm trying to find a gui app that contains ping, whois, lookup etc.
[16:30] <bbeck> Has anyone installed the 4.4 Beta?
[16:31] <rstob911> no it is full of bugs dont like bugs
[16:32] <bbeck> Aptitude wants to remove a whole mess of x11 packages, so I'm a bit leary of going ahead and doing it.
[16:33] <bbeck> rstob911: I don't mind bugs, I just don't want to end up bricking my box.
[16:33] <rstob911> i would wait till it becomes stable unless you just like reinstalling
[16:39] <BluesKaj> well, time for my daily ... BBL
[17:08] <arnold> Hello, I have kubuntu 9.10 and I wanted to install gcc. But the packagekit offered me different versions which one is the richt one? 4.4.1
[17:11] <arnold> Hello, which gcc version do I need to compile a program for kubuntu 9.10?
[17:11] <tsimpson> the one from build-essential
[17:12] <arnold> tsimpson
[17:12] <arnold> tsimpson: thank you
[17:15] <motown> what is the good dock apps for kde?
[17:17] <hunter_> hello
[17:19] <hunter_> I need support for my Ati drivers in Kubuntu 9.10
[17:20] <hunter_> and how configure my S-video
[17:21] <nico_> and i need help cause i cant webcam with kopete
[17:22] <motown> what is a good dock app for kde?
[17:26] <alex__> alguem intende alguma sobre rotas no ubuntu 9.10?
[17:26] <motown> !br
[17:27] <julian__> join #wow
[17:31] <motown> what is a good dock app for kde?
[17:51] <shadeslayer> um anyone upgraded to 4.4?
[17:55] <shadeslayer> anyone upgrade to 4.4? anyone?
[18:14] <jaimie> has anyone had a problem with thier eee after updating?
[18:14] <jaimie> i cant login anymore
[18:15] <shadeslayer> jaimie: im updating...
[18:16] <Pavel_> so I had an adept crash in which adept seems to have uninstalled several programs, adept included, and now when I try to sudo apt-get them I get a dpkg error.  Any tips?
[18:16] <shadeslayer> (though itll take 3 hrs)
[18:17] <i_is_broke> Pavel_, have you tried to do sudo aptitude install -f?
[18:18] <i_is_broke> Pavel_, there is another command to, but i dont remember it..
[18:18] <i_is_broke> !fixdpkg
[18:19] <jaimie> shadeslayer: i have X logs if they help
[18:19] <jaimie> first it told me there was no i810 module
[18:19] <i_is_broke> !dpkg
[18:19] <jaimie> and now it tells me there is no virtual keyboard
[18:19] <tsimpson> Pavel_: try, in konsole, "sudo dpkg --configure -a" and then "sudo apt-get -f install"
[18:20] <alexander> does the command sudo easy_install work on KDE?
[18:20] <tsimpson> if you have it installed, sure
[18:20] <jaimie> just tried it alexander and it seems not
[18:20] <i_is_broke> tsimpson, ty i couldnt remember it..and ubottu is no help either.
[18:21] <tsimpson> !aptfix
[18:21] <Pavel_> seems to be working...
[18:21] <shadeslayer> jaimie: dunno,i dont know much about kdm and stuff
[18:21] <tsimpson> !dpkgfix is <alias> aptfix
[18:21] <alexander> jaimie what can i try instead?
[18:21] <tsimpson> !fixdpkg is <alias> dpkgfix
[18:21] <i_is_broke> ah there it is.
[18:22] <jaimie> no idea; im just brave and typed it in :p
[18:22] <Pavel_> so, should I now attempt to sudo apt-get amarok and adept?
[18:22] <tsimpson> jaimie: you need python-setuptools installed
[18:22] <i_is_broke> Pavel_, try sudo aptitude update first and then the others.
[18:23] <jaimie> i see oki :)
[18:23] <i_is_broke> tsimpson, is there a list of commands for ubottu? or just have to remember them all?
[18:23] <jaimie> would that fix my X problem tsimpson?
[18:23] <tsimpson> !bot | i_is_broke
[18:24] <tsimpson> jaimie: no, for easy_install
[18:24] <tsimpson> I don't have an eee so I can't help there
[18:25] <jaimie> how come when i do dpkg-reconfigure nothing happens?
[18:28] <i_is_broke> jaimie, what are you trying to reconfigure?
[18:31] <jaimie> xserver-xorg
[18:47] <Pavel__> Adept crashed and uninstalled some things, does anyone know how I could see what programs were uninstalled?
[18:58] <m3tz> hello
[19:01] <IRC-Client2> what wat that?
[19:01] <IRC-Client2> a split?
[19:02] <IRC-Client2> was*
[19:03] <shadeslayer> IRC-Client2: freenode's being DDoS'd
[19:03] <shadeslayer> (im serious)
[19:14] <fritzIsOnline> greetz.. how can i disable "auto-resize-font-size-when-reboot" ?
[19:14] <fritzIsOnline> i don't want my system decides my font sizes
[19:19] <fritzIsOnline> why does kde change the all fonts' sizes automatically when restarted? how can i prevent that?
[19:23] <motown> hi. i've installed kubuntu with kubuntu-desktop.. but i got no turn off and restart button.. http://imagebin.org/75605 how can i fix it? thanks
[19:25] <shadeslayer> motown: try restarting with : sudo reboot -h NOW
[19:26] <noaXess> what about thunderbird3, is it available in the kubuntu repos?
[19:27] <motown> shadeslayer, ok
[19:27] <shadeslayer> noaXess: not right now... maybe a PPA has it... try googling
[19:27] <noaXess> shadeslayer: just googling now :)
[19:28] <Bugsbane> Anyone know how to get around the "Nepomuk Semantic Desktop needs the Virtuoso RDF server to store its data" error. I have every soprano / virtuoso package installed...
[19:28] <Bugsbane> (on 4.4 beta 1)
[19:29] <shadeslayer> Bugsbane: did you try restarting the soprano daemon?
[19:30] <Bugsbane> I restarted the computer...
[19:30] <motown> shadeslayer, with that cmd i only reboot my desktop. but i still have no button for turning off and restarting.. :(
[19:30] <anton> Anyone know if update manager can be configured to show the apt install logs during upgrades?
[19:30] <Bugsbane> I'd *hope* that would do it. ;)
[19:30] <shadeslayer> motown: hmm.. this is on kde 4,4 beta i guess?
[19:31] <shadeslayer> Bugsbane: that ought to do it,but if there was a error in starting it,then youll need to start it
[19:31] <motown> shadeslayer, no this is 4.3.4
[19:32] <shadeslayer> motown: ok,well can you log in as another user and see if the problem persists?
[19:32] <Bugsbane> shadeslayer: So I don't see any process called soprano anything. How do you start it?
[19:33] <shadeslayer> Bugsbane: not entirely sure what itll be called in 4.4,but you start any service as : service start (service name)
[19:34] <Bugsbane> shadeslayer: Ah, found it... "sopranod" I'm guessing...
[19:34] <motown> shadeslayer, how can i create another user account from konsole?
[19:35] <shadeslayer> motown: sudo adduser
[19:38] <shadeslayer> Bugsbane: if that doesnt work try : nepomukserver : and check the output,also try : kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental : thats all i can think of :P
[19:38] <motown> shadeslayer, ok brb
[19:38] <cumulus007> Hi, I want to let an application hang on purpose so I can take a screenshot of KWin's "Application not responding" dialog. Anybody here having any suggestions?
[19:38] <cumulus007> kde sc 4.4 beta 1 kubuntu 9.10
[19:38] <shadeslayer> cumulus007: i dont think KDE does the application not responding message :P
[19:38] <tsimpson> shadeslayer: it does
[19:38] <tsimpson> KWin does
[19:38] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: wow.. ive never seen one :)
[19:38] <cumulus007> it does
[19:39] <cumulus007> that's a good sign :P
[19:39] <cumulus007> I however want to take a screenshot of it because, from the few times I saw it, I noticed that it is not really user-friendly
[19:39] <tsimpson> there really isn't a way to simulate it, it only appears when an app does't respond to an event
[19:40] <cumulus007> I'm looking all over KDE to find usability issues so I can report them to the KDE Usability team
[19:40] <giri> shadeslayer, it's me motown. with other user account the problem still exist :(
[19:41] <shadeslayer> giri: weird... maybe someone here knows a solution
[19:41] <shadeslayer> giri: btw does the lancelot menu have the same problem too?
[19:42] <giri> shadeslayer, do you mean classic menu style?
[19:42] <shadeslayer> giri: no i mean the lancelot launcher,its another kind of launcher
[19:43] <shadeslayer> giri: just right click the panel > panel options > add widgets > lancelot launcher
[19:44] <giri> shadeslayer, i add the widget for lancelot, and yes it shows me restart and turn off button
[19:44] <shadeslayer> giri: well i dont know the exact problem but until its solved you can use the lancelot launcher :)
[19:45] <fasrr> Hello
[19:45] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: ever heard of someone not getting their shutdown and restart buttons in the launcher?
[19:45] <shadeslayer> fasrr: hi
[19:46] <tsimpson> I've heard of it happening, but I don't know why or how to fix it
[19:46] <fasrr> Witch Kernel version didt Koala use?
[19:46] <fasrr> *did
[19:46] <shadeslayer> fasrr: 2.6.31
[19:46] <tsimpson> perhaps someone in #kde knows?
[19:47] <maco> karmic is 2.6.31
[19:47] <maco> lucid will likely be 2.6.32
[19:47] <fasrr> kk, thanks
[19:47] <giri> shadeslayer, ok thanks :D
[19:47] <shadeslayer> giri: please head over to #kde for more detailed troubleshooting :)
[19:47] <maco> shadeslayer: i dont have those buttons in kickoff if i "startx" instead of using kdm...
[19:47] <anton> Bugsbane: what makes you think your'e the only one with a death ray
[19:47] <pasnox> wow #kubuntu resurected :)
[19:47] <anton> Anyone know if update manager can be configured to show the apt install logs during upgrades?
[19:48] <pasnox> i just upgraded to kde 4.4, and i got problems with nepomuk, it don't want to start, any ideas ?
[19:48] <shadeslayer> maco: well i dont know the first thing about what the problem might be
[19:48] <giri> shadeslayer, oki doki
[19:48] <Bugsbane> anton: The singed, burning holes where the others used to be...
[19:48] <craig___> Wohoo, we exist in the main network again
[19:49] <maco> shadeslayer: are you not the admin, maybe? dunno how kdm handles it, but i know gdm doesnt let guest session users shut down
[19:49] <shadeslayer> paolo_: tried : nepomukserver : in konsole?
[19:49] <maco> craig___: as opposed to?
[19:49] <shadeslayer> maco: no im definitely not the admin :P
[19:50] <Bugsbane> shadeslayer: I've got sopranod running now, but same error asking for Virtuoso RDF :/
[19:50] <shadeslayer> maco: oh you meant on my PC,i thought you meant in this channel :D
[19:50] <Bugsbane> shadeslayer: No errors in Konsole from sopranod though
[19:50] <maco> shadeslayer: oh heh yes
[19:51] <fasrr> witch paket do i need that i havnt the error "linux/config.h" cant find?
[19:51] <shadeslayer> Bugsbane: hmm... someone other than you has problems too...
[19:51] <fasrr> ähm, no such file or diconary
[19:51] <shadeslayer> Bugsbane: oh yeah its paolo_
[19:51] <Bugsbane> shadeslayer: Thus beginneth the flood...
[19:51] <mostafa_> hey there I want to compile OTCL and when I type "sudo ./configure" it shows me this "configure: error: Installation of tcl seems incomplete or can't be found automatically.
[19:51] <fasrr> bu i think g++ ist installed, right
[19:51] <mostafa_> Please correct the problem by telling configure where tcl is using the argument --with-tcl=/path/to/package"
[19:51] <shadeslayer> Bugsbane: hehe... maybe its a upstream bug? try #kde
[19:51] <mostafa_> but I installed the tcl later .can anyone help me
[19:51] <Bugsbane> shadeslayer: will do
[19:52] <craig___> maco, there was a net split, with only 16 users in this channel
[19:52] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: the last parts chipped off
[19:52] <tsimpson> shadeslayer: yep
[19:52] <shadeslayer> craig___: :o
[19:52] <maco> craig___: that means there were 16 users on your server in the channel. people on other servers, only 16 of you disappeared
[19:52] <paolo_> ?
[19:53] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: looks perfect :)
[19:53] <maco> the irc guidelines link was cut off in the topic before
[19:53] <craig___> Maco, yep hence we're back in the main network
[19:53] <maco> paolo_: if thats what youre wondering
[19:54] <paolo_> im another paolo sorry
[19:54] <craig___> I've been using my nickname cragdor on irc for years, now today the nick server is complaining its registered any ideas
[19:54] <maco> you should've registered it first. too bad?
[19:55] <craig___> Where would i have register it?
[19:55] <maco> about all there is to it
[19:55] <maco> well its too late now, but...
[19:55] <maco> !register
[19:55] <Bugsbane> Interesting that Ubuntu's IRC is running into problems at the same time Freenode's being DDOS'd
[19:55] <maco> Bugsbane: um ubuntu IS freenode
[19:55] <shadeslayer> Bugsbane: hehe... ubuntu is just a alias for freenode
[19:56]  * Bugsbane slaps his forehead
[19:58] <shadeslayer> Bugsbane: btw what about : nepomukserver : and : kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental : ?
[20:00] <shadeslayer> btw is there some DVD ripping tool which can directly rip a ISO?
[20:00] <Bugsbane> I think handbrake can do that...
[20:00] <Bugsbane> otherwise I'd try k3b
[20:00] <tsimpson> k3b can do that
[20:00] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: really?
[20:01] <shadeslayer> i dont think so..
[20:01] <tsimpson> shadeslayer: choose to copy the DVD,  and choose to save to disk
[20:01] <tsimpson> it can do it, I have used it ;)
[20:01] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: i want to rip a video DVD to .avi files.... to be more explicit :P
[20:02] <tsimpson> then you want k9copy
[20:02] <shadeslayer> ah..
As long as doing so is legal in your territory</disclaimer>
[20:03] <shadeslayer> tsimpson: ofcourse... its a DVD of a wedding,its consuming too much space on my HD
[20:04] <shadeslayer> i have like only 2GB free of 200 GB's
[20:05] <giri> someone from #kde tell me that i need to change from gdm to kdm to get restart and turn off button, but i don't know how :(
[20:06] <shadeslayer> giri: i know,just : sudo dpkg --configure kdm
[20:06] <shadeslayer> (thats what i think it should be :P)
[20:09] <shadeslayer> Bugsbane: btw if you do find a fix please share it with us :D
[20:09] <cragdor> Wohoo! It was a netsplit issue disconnect then reconnect fixed it and my nick is now registered
[20:09] <noaXess> have now thunderbird3 from mozilla downloaded and startet.. the look is very strange.. in kde system settings / appearance / gtk+ is qtcurve as default widjet style.. i thought tb3 is based on qt4?
[20:09] <cragdor> Thanks maco
[20:09] <giri> shadeslayer, ok brb
[20:11]  * shadeslayer sees people disappear all over freenode...
[20:16] <motown> shadeslayer, reconfigure gdm to kdm solves the problem.
[20:17] <shadeslayer> motown: you didnt tell us earlier that you had gdm :P
[20:18] <motown> shadeslayer, hehe sorry, idk if gdm causing the problem :p
[20:18] <soee> do u know what shuld i do to run mldoneky core server ?
[20:18] <shadeslayer> motown: hehe... well its good that you got it solved,hope you have a good KDE experience
[20:20] <motown> shadeslayer, i will.. thanks.. oh and how can i remove the user account that i already create before? i like to only have one user account :)
[20:21] <pasnox> hm
[20:21] <shadeslayer> motown: sudo deluser
[20:21] <pasnox> since i migrated to kde 4.4 my app does not longer want to start, i rebuilt it, and same problem. here is the gdb log : http://pastebin.ca/1716140
[20:21] <pasnox> any ideas ?
[20:21] <shadeslayer> um try : rm -rf in the build directory?
[20:22] <shadeslayer> pasnox: then rebuild the app
[20:22] <pasnox> shadeslayer: are you reading before telling unrelated things ? i tell i rebuilt the app , already ;)
[20:23] <motown> shadeslayer, sudo deluser 'myotheraccount' ?
[20:23] <shadeslayer> motown: yeah
[20:23] <shadeslayer> pasnox: ok,but did you clear the build dir first?
[20:23] <pasnox> shadeslayer: sure
[20:24] <shadeslayer> pasnox: no idea apart from that :p
[20:24] <mostafa_> what should i do with this error ?http://paste.ubuntu.com/342124/
[20:24] <pasnox> i got a fresh svn copy and did : qmake-qt4 && make
[20:24] <pasnox> sniff :'(
[20:24] <pasnox> thanks any way
[20:24] <pasnox> let try #kde
[20:24] <motown> shadeslayer, ok done and now how can i check whether its deleted or not without having to log out first?
[20:24] <dihae> does anyone know if there's a ubuntu package available of qt-creator 1.3 ?
[20:26] <shadeslayer> motown: um... no idea :P
[20:27] <motown> shadeslayer, ok im logging out..
[20:28] <cragdor> motown, You could use 'User Management' under System settings in kde 4.4
[20:28] <shadeslayer> :)
[20:37] <gorgonzola> hello. i wanted to know, is anyone experiencing issues with dilphin? ie, it takes ages to open, then it's barely usable because it takes ages for each operation...
[20:37] <gorgonzola> s/dilphin/dolphin/
[20:41] <subito> hi, i want to make an executable (for windows) for a kde game (that i usually compile with cmake .; make; is that even possible?
[20:43] <loony_> subito: http://www.cmake.org/Wiki/CMake_Cross_Compiling
[20:43] <shadeslayer> subito: might be.. we do have kde-windows,so why not>
[20:47] <apparle> hi
[20:48] <shadeslayer> apparle: hey
[20:49] <antony> hi everyone. I have a problem with an emesene plugin. I contacted the author and he told me to go into the IRC channel and ask something specific about dbus api. Is there anyone to help me with this for a moment?   thanks
[20:51] <loony_> antony: so, whats the problem?
[20:51] <antony> Can I write the details here in the channel?
[20:52] <apparle> !pastebin | antony
[20:53] <loony_> antony: I am just curious, why don't you use some other IM client that supports the windows live messanger protocol (msn)?
[20:54] <antony> wait a moment , I'll tell you.
[20:58] <amichair> is there a good kde/qt frontend firewall app (iptables frontend)
[20:59] <mounir> k
[20:59] <raindog> Kwin is giving me some trouble.  Here is the error:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/342149/
[21:01] <heiko> hallo
[21:01] <heiko> #ubuntu.de
[21:02] <soee> yo
[21:02] <antony> http://paste.ubuntu.com/342150/
[21:02] <antony> ( don't know if I'm using the pastebin right   :/ )
[21:04] <jjesse> question what should my fstab read so a normal user (myself) can write to my second hard drive formated as ext3?
[21:08] <shadeslayer> jjesse: it should just show your / partition and swap
[21:08] <jjesse> yes they are there trying to set my 2nd hard drive as writeable
[21:10] <shadeslayer> jjesse: you can manually add a new line to fstab... dont know about the ext3 partition though,i use /dev/sda6 /media/Data ntfs-3g defaults 0 0 for my ntfs partition
[21:11] <amichair> also, when I connect a cellular phone via usb, it shows up as a networkmanager notification - how do I make it connect as a regular storage device instead (or in addition)?
[21:11] <shadeslayer> amichair: does the phone have a connect as mass storage function?
[21:12] <amichair> shadeslayer: I assumed so... don't they all?
[21:12] <shadeslayer> amichair: my blackberry doesnt :P
[21:12] <amichair> shadeslayer: how else do u copy photos etc. off the device?
[21:13] <shadeslayer> amichair: well just enable that mode when you connect it and you should be good to go
[21:13] <shadeslayer> amichair: i just connect my phone via a data cable and it shows up as mass strage
[21:13] <shadeslayer> *storage
[21:13] <amichair> shadeslayer: oh, u mean it's a setting on the phone to connect either as a network interface or storage device? I'll look for such an option.
[21:13] <shadeslayer> amichair: yeah thats what i mean :)
[21:16] <amichair> shadeslayer: I don't see such an option. but it should be possible, since I was told it shows up as storage device in windows (it's not my phone)
[21:18] <shadeslayer> amichair: hmm.. well when you connect it to the pc via a data cable can you check the dmesg logs?
[21:21] <amichair> shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342162/
[21:22] <shadeslayer> amichair: it should be detected... open dolphin
[21:23] <amichair> shadeslayer: nope, not there. also the usb device notification icon shows no connected devices.
[21:23] <raindog> Solved my issue.
[21:24] <shadeslayer> amichair: weird since dmesg says : [114609.550030] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk
[21:24] <shadeslayer> amichair: try : sudo fdisk -l
[21:30] <amichair> shadeslayer: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342164/
[21:31] <shadeslayer> amichair: well... its not listed there... what phone is this anyway?
[21:31] <amichair> Sony Ericsson k750i
[21:33] <shadeslayer> amichair: ok you want to copy photos right? try installing digikam
[21:33] <amichair> shadeslayer: no, I actually want to upload apps... but if it's not mounted, I don't see how it can access either
[21:34] <shadeslayer> i cant figure out why  it wont mount and fdisk wont show it
[21:34] <amichair> shadeslayer: is the dmesg output complete? it shows everything a proper connection would?
[21:34] <shadeslayer> ah i think why.... one sec
[21:34] <shadeslayer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/472461
[21:35] <shadeslayer> amichair: according to that bug,you have the exact same problem
[21:36] <shadeslayer> amichair: ok try copying everything from windows and format it,then itll mount
[21:36] <shadeslayer> (well thats what the report says :P )
[21:37] <amichair> shadeslayer: nice catch, thanks. I'll try that when I can. though as the reporter states, it's unclear why this works on onlder releases, and not 9.04/9.10
[21:37] <amichair> shadeslayer: but thanks a lot for your help - I'll try to take it from there :-)
[21:38] <shadeslayer> amichair: no probelm
[21:38] <shadeslayer> *problem
[21:44] <avihay> why do I have packages that are "held back" when I apt-get upgrade?
[21:44] <noaXess> how can i get thunderbird3 looks nice in my kubuntu? have insalled the latest stable from mozilla.. so now it looks a little bit strange :) old styyle.
[21:45] <FireCrotch> avihay: packages are held back when installing the update would require a new package to be installed
[21:45] <shadeslayer> avihay: try : sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:46] <avihay> I'm on 9.10
[21:46] <avihay> any point trying anyway?
[21:46] <FireCrotch> dist-upgrade will install the update and any new packages required
[21:46] <shadeslayer> avihay: yeah,youll get the upgrades that are blocked
[21:47] <FireCrotch> dist-upgrade really needs to be renamed to something else
[21:47] <shadeslayer> FireCrotch: hehe...
[21:47] <avihay> ok, do you know why it's like that?
[21:48] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[21:48] <shadeslayer> avihay: yeah,youre upgrading to the latest distribution version ( of put_appname_here)
[21:49] <avihay> I was under the impression that kubuntu is only issueing dist upgrades every 6 mobthes more or less
[21:50] <maco> that is correct
[21:50] <maco> ohhh
[21:50] <maco> ok yeah so "apt-get dist-upgrade" is poor naming
[21:50] <shadeslayer> avihay: yeah,but KDE has a different schedule
[21:50] <maco> in aptitude it was renamed to "full-upgrade"
[21:50] <shadeslayer> maco: safe-upgrade
[21:51] <maco> shadeslayer: no. safe-upgrade is the same as plain upgrade
[21:51] <maco> because the actual semantics of upgrade (or aptitude safe-upgrade) "dont remove anything already installed or install anything new." while apt-get dist-upgrade or aptitude full-upgrade can do those things
[21:51] <avihay> so if I dist upgrade now, it will just upgrade me to kde 4.3.4?
[21:52] <maco> as long as you havent changed anything in sources.list
[21:52] <FireCrotch> dist-upgrade (to new users) tends to imply distribution upgrade (9.04 to 9.10)
[21:52] <FireCrotch> its an issue that I've seen countless times
[21:54] <maco> FireCrotch: pretty sure thats why its renamed in aptitude
[21:54] <shadeslayer> ugh.... my upgrades gone bad
[21:54] <FireCrotch> maco: I would assume so
[21:55] <shadeslayer> guys please help with : http://pastebin.ca/1716283
[21:55] <avihay> bind9-host dnsutils libbind9-50 libdns50 libisc50 libisccc50 libisccfg50 liblwres50 linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic sreadahead... especially sreadahead sounds promising
[22:00] <shadeslayer> how do i force a install?
[22:00] <avihay> oh, I see that if I use a gui package manager, it suggest the upgrades without indicating anything being blocked or dangerous
[22:02] <shadeslayer> never mind.. dpkg is pretty versatile
[22:08] <Scunizi> when I get notified of updates available I click on the icon and go through the motions.. after I have said "ok" to the updates and click "continue" (or whatever it's called) the screen flashes and then the update window disappears.. the next reboot same thing again.. I have to update via cli to get it to stick.. why is that?
[22:09] <shadeslayer> Scunizi: because kpackagekit isnt ready for general consumption yet
[22:09] <Scunizi> shadeslayer: arg.. even in 9.10?  (fortunately I'm running it in a vm just for fun)
[22:10] <Scunizi> overall I'm pretty impressed with kubuntu's progress.. I'm almost tempted to move from gnome.. but still.. there are a few quirks.
[22:12] <shadeslayer> Scunizi: yeah.... my updgrade to 4.4 is going bad each passing second :(
[22:13] <Scunizi> shadeslayer: I was wondering earlier... is there a gui app for "k" like the gnome Network Tools ..that has ping, whois, lookup etc.. ?
[22:15] <shadeslayer> Scunizi: hmm.. no idea
[22:16] <Scunizi> shadeslayer: I'd hate to use kpackagekit to try looking it up.. I've found it pretty useless for that type of thing
[22:17] <shadeslayer> hehe
[22:17] <shadeslayer> be right back with kde 4.4
[22:33] <ohay> does anyone know if GRUB is upgraded to 2 when I do a distro upgrade from 9.04, which has the older one ?
[22:38] <coolalee> where should I send suggestion considering usb netbook edition? It's rather crucial one, since asus eee pc users can't install os otherwise
[22:41] <INIT_61> Hope someone can help me with this. I have kubuntu 9.10 fully updated. Flash player 10. every time I try to watch videos on hulu.com I get an error saying flash script has become unstable. I have tried this in firefox, chrome, chromium, wine of firefox all of them do the same thing. Now, I can watch flash videos just fine on youtube and megavideo. I think this is because only hulu is utilizing something in the new flash 10.
[22:42] <hagabaka> after installing kde 4.4 beta packages, desktop effects don't work again :(
[22:42] <INIT_61> I have uninstalled flash and reinstalled it by going to adobe's website and getting the right package.
[22:43] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[22:43] <rstob911> mann all day long netsplits enough allready
[22:44] <INIT_61> !help
[22:44] <shadeslayer> INIT_61: um it works fine in chrome
[22:45] <shadeslayer> rekonq went a bit wonky on that site... havent tried out others
[22:45] <INIT_61> must be something weird with my setup.
[22:45] <shadeslayer> INIT_61: youre runnin chrome from wine?
[22:45] <INIT_61> no, native
[22:46] <shadeslayer> hmm... well works in chrome,so chow :P
[22:46] <shadeslayer> i have 64 bit btw
[22:46] <INIT_61> Can you watch a this movie for me and tell me how it goes. :)
[22:46] <shadeslayer> INIT_61: from where do you change the themes in kde 4.4
[22:46] <shadeslayer> INIT_61: sorry got to go in a few mins
[22:47] <INIT_61> I changed the themes by going to system settings
[22:48] <INIT_61> Would themes effect this. I have been changing themes alot
[22:55] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[23:00] <Xand3r> hey, i want to run dualview, but in systemsettings  under sceen settings i cant activa it, onky clones, but i want 2 screens
[23:00] <Xand3r> how i can get it work?
[23:01] <ikdizayn> hi
[23:03] <ikdizayn> Xand3r:  how are you
[23:03] <Xand3r> hi ikdizayn i am fine and you?
[23:03] <ikdizayn> thanks
[23:04] <Xand3r> ikdizayn: do you know how i get multiple monitors working with the systemsettings?
[23:04] <doatr> Hello
[23:05] <doatr> What was the problem? http://codepad.org/Ou2Pw4LI
[23:07] <Xand3r> doatr: you are shure you have installed all depends?
[23:07] <slix> If I have a question about kubuntu but it's related to the boot-up process, should I ask it here or in #ubuntu ?
[23:07] <shadeslayer> slix: either channel
[23:08] <ikdizayn> Xand3r:  no
[23:08] <doatr> Xand3r: i write     apt-get install build-essential
[23:08] <doatr> think it install the g++ and gcc, right?
[23:09] <slix> Okay, thanks shadeslayer.
[23:09] <dtchen> yes, it will, doatr
[23:09] <doatr> or isnt the linux/config.h in the build-essential?
[23:10] <INIT_6> about week ago I have been unable to watch flash videos on hulu.com I can watch them fine on youtube or megavideo. I have tried firefox, chrome(native), chromium(native), firefox(wine) all of them give me a error: " A script in this movie is causing adobe flash player 10 to run slowly. if it continues to run, your computer may become unresponsive. do you want to abort the script?" If I continue it gives the same error. I have d
[23:10] <jesse2> Can anyone recommend a tool for changing the GRUB bootsplash (ie background picture)?
[23:10] <doatr> jesse2: google knows a easy tutorial for grub2
[23:11] <doatr> dtchen: do you know it?
[23:11] <jesse2> roger
[23:12] <ikdizayn> Do you know Kurdish
[23:12] <Xand3r> doatr: no *.h files are in *-dev packages
[23:12] <doatr> hmm.
[23:13] <doatr> Xand3r: do you know in witch dev packages?
[23:15] <FloodBotK2> !netsplit
[23:19] <INIT_63> I found out what was happing to my flash. The wireless router what I connect to has been having a lot of connection resets and I guess that has been messing with the flash script and causing errors. The videos pop right up when I tether it to my g1 through USB.
[23:22] <ikdizayn> INIT_63:  No
[23:22] <INIT_63> no what?
[23:24] <coolalee> why during kubuntu netbook instalation, when i'm choosing partition order, after each change i have to wait more than 10 minutes? it's not formatting disk yet, it is?
[23:24] <ikdizayn> INIT_63: trash off the computer
[23:24] <Xand3r> doatr: did you got my message?
[23:31] <doatr> Xand3r: no
[23:32] <doatr> Xand3r: can you repeat it?
[23:34] <doatr> Xand3r: ?? :)
[23:35] <Xand3r> shur
[23:35] <Xand3r> sure^^
[23:35] <hagabaka> how can I revert from kde 4.4 beta packages to the latest packages in official repositories? I have removed the beta ppa
[23:35] <Xand3r> doatr: you have to install linux-libc-dev i think
[23:35] <doatr> kk, thanks
[23:35] <Xand3r> if ist works or not, let me know it
[23:36] <maco> hagabaka: download the debs from packages.ubuntu.com and install them with "dpkg -i --force-downgrade *deb"
[23:37] <Xand3r> hagabaka: did you run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get full-upgrade"
[23:37] <maco> the packages from the ppa are a newer version
[23:37] <hagabaka> I ran that with aptitude
[23:37] <maco> full-upgrade is sure not gonna *downgrade* to the repository versions
[23:37] <Xand3r> maco: ok than i was wrong sorry
[23:37] <maco> you need to manually install the older official versions that can be found on packages.ubuntu.com
[23:37] <doatr> Xand3r: the packageKit has a X behind "linux-libc-dev"
[23:37] <doatr> it was installed, yet
[23:38] <Xand3r> ok than you may read that http://www.debianhelp.org/node/11893
[23:40] <dtchen> maco: yes it will only if you've configured pinning correctly.
[23:40] <dtchen> maco: the priority is vital.
[23:40] <maco> dtchen: oh pinning. fun. ugh.
[23:40] <maco> dtchen: if you want to explain pinning, be my guest
[23:40] <dtchen> I can't do any better than apt_preferences(5)
[23:42] <doatr> Xand3r: i didnt understand the answer with the c++ code
[23:43] <doatr> what do with it?
[23:43] <Xand3r> sudo /usr/include/linux/config.h
[23:44] <Xand3r> sudo kate /usr/include/linux/config.h
[23:44] <Xand3r> i mean
[23:44] <Xand3r> it shuld be emty
[23:44] <dtchen> well, in a default install of *buntu, it will be
[23:45] <doatr> uuuh
[23:45] <dtchen> what are you trying to do?
[23:45] <Xand3r> than paste http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/86
[23:45] <Xand3r> and save
[23:45] <doatr> Xand3r: i have no config.h under user/include/linux  oO
[23:45] <Xand3r> thats right
[23:45] <Xand3r> you create on
[23:45] <doatr> aha!! okay
[23:46] <Xand3r> its an old thing i think so you have to cheat a littel
[23:47] <ubuntu_> hola
[23:47] <Xand3r> doatr: does it work?
[23:48] <egoflux> is there a way to extract a password protected .rar without the password?
[23:52] <Xand3r> egoflux: why you want to do that?
[23:52] <egoflux> downloaded a protected movie
[23:53] <Xand3r> i think there is no way
[23:53] <Xand3r> or have you problem with the gui?
[23:53] <egoflux> no, the gui is very simple...but i can't watch the movie
[23:53] <egoflux> well, that's ok...can't really expect much i guess
[23:54] <Xand3r> maybe somen else can helb but not me, sorry
[23:54] <egoflux> its cool...thanx for trying tho
[23:54] <phoenixz> Question.. First, I love Linux, love Kubuntu and won't change.. But.. Why is is that with every version upgrade I do, new stuff stops working? I have not had a single Kubuntu version that worked perfectly, there were always problems. Then the sound buttons worked, upgrade, and they didnt anymore. next version they do.. same for hibernate, auto screenlocking when I close the laptop lid (Have that now, when I open the lid, screen stays black), X went from
[23:54] <phoenixz>  great to crap to reasonable.. Are newer versions not supposed to work better then older versions?