[00:29] <rr73> ok so i did something stupid and toasted grub
[00:29] <rr73> it says gettext not found
[00:32] <rr73> and that is why you don't dist-upgrade to testing right? :( it toasts your system?
[00:32] <rr73> bbl
[00:33] <dtchen> dist-upgrading to Debian testing? or Ubuntu 10.04?
[00:34] <dtchen> the latter is mostly feasible last I checked
[00:35] <BUGabundo> dtchen: what how I do it
[00:35] <BUGabundo> cause I did mine on day one :)
[00:35] <BUGabundo> no UM db yet
[00:37] <BUGabundo> $ gdb --args kmail --nofork
[00:37] <BUGabundo> here we go
[00:37] <BUGabundo> crash now haah
[00:52] <yofel> nice... akonadi is at fault that kmail  freezes here. When opening a mail I get...
[00:52] <yofel> kmail(22763)/libakonadi Akonadi::SessionPrivate::socketError: Socket error occurred: "QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid name"
[00:52] <yofel> once a second in gdb
[00:53] <BUGabundo> yofel: nothing like that here
[00:54] <BUGabundo> Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.
[00:54] <BUGabundo> 0x00007ffff4a5cbb0 in clearerr () from /lib/libc.so.6
[00:54] <BUGabundo> (gdb)
[00:54] <BUGabundo> eheh
[00:54] <BUGabundo> libc6 broken
[00:54] <BUGabundo> I WISH YOU ALL MERRY XTMAS
[00:54] <BUGabundo> grr I mean a good day tomorrow
[00:54] <BUGabundo> you will need it :)
[00:55] <yofel> full log: http://yofel.pastebin.com/f30f9a1c7
[00:55] <yofel> akonadi utterly broken
[00:55] <BUGabundo> here's the trace
[00:55] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/341553/
[00:55] <BUGabundo> incase anyone wants it
[00:55] <BUGabundo> let me install libc6 dgb ;(
[00:56] <BUGabundo> huge package
[00:56] <BUGabundo> yofel: mine I nicer :DDD
[00:56] <yofel> :P
[00:57] <BUGabundo> /lib/libc.so.6
[00:57] <BUGabundo> why do we have to break libc6 twice on each cycle?
[00:57] <BUGabundo> there goes number one
[00:57] <BUGabundo> expect 2nd at A5
[00:58] <yofel> what exactly are you trying to do when it crahes?
[00:58] <BUGabundo>  sudo aptitude install libc6-dbg
[00:58] <BUGabundo> yofel: pulling email :D
[00:58] <BUGabundo> just that
[00:58] <yofel> maybe it works here cause I use IMAP?
[00:58] <BUGabundo> it complains of a missing maildir folder (I've created it manually now)
[00:59] <BUGabundo> and chrash
[00:59] <BUGabundo> its dIMAP btw
[00:59] <yofel> hm
[00:59] <BUGabundo> gotta love MUTT
[00:59] <BUGabundo> $ gdb --args kmail --nofork
[01:00] <BUGabundo> here we go again
[01:00] <yofel> BUGabundo: side note: there will be no A5 :P
[01:00] <BUGabundo> rebuilding dIMAP folder to be sure everything is in its place
[01:00] <BUGabundo> WHAT?
[01:00] <BUGabundo> how can that be?
[01:00] <BUGabundo> longer cycles ?
[01:01] <BUGabundo> between alphas?
[01:01] <BUGabundo> I really should try to catch up on emails :(((((
[01:01] <yofel> check the release schedule, we'll have 2 betas
[01:01] <BUGabundo> so far so good.. pulling email again
[01:02] <BUGabundo>   p, li { white-space: pre-wrap; }  /home/bugabundo/.kde/share/apps/kmail/dimap/.XXXXXXXX.directory/.[Gmail].directory/.Sent Mail.directory.
[01:02] <nvme> http://tr.im/HDhy :)
[01:02] <BUGabundo> holding so far
[01:03] <nvme> is ureadahead the only thing has changed ?
[01:03] <rr73> BUGabundo~ you dist-upgrade to get lucid?
[01:03] <nvme> that improved boottimes that much ?
[01:03] <BUGabundo> rr73: yes
[01:03] <BUGabundo> nvme: should
[01:03] <BUGabundo> halt time
[01:03] <rr73> BUGabundo~ my grub got busted
[01:03] <rr73> grub_gettext symbol not found
[01:04] <BUGabundo> lolol
[01:04] <nvme> my boot went from 30s in karmic to 11s, im curious to see what changed
[01:04] <BUGabundo> hummm then again this may be a corrupt foldr
[01:05] <BUGabundo> its one that got half lost when my disk crashed
[01:05] <BUGabundo> I will redo the account
[01:05] <BUGabundo> and there we go
[01:05] <BUGabundo> crash
[01:06] <yofel> purged akonadi config, let's try again...
[01:06] <rr73> BUGabundo~ how did you upgrade, change sources then update and dist-upgrade?
[01:06] <BUGabundo> rr73: yes
[01:06] <BUGabundo> it was day ONE of lucid
[01:06] <yofel> I did the same 2 weeks later
[01:06] <rr73> i did that and grub fails and sticks me at a grub rescue-> prompt
[01:07] <BUGabundo> done for tonight
[01:07] <BUGabundo> 1am
[01:07] <BUGabundo> bed time
[01:07] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/341558/
[01:07] <BUGabundo> yofel: by then wasn't UM already working ?
[01:08] <yofel> BUGabundo: UM wasn't working till A1
[01:08] <yofel> and I wanted to update pre-UDS
[01:08] <BUGabundo> ah
[01:08] <BUGabundo> night guys
[01:09] <yofel> 'night
[01:09] <rr73> ty BUGabundo
[01:09] <rr73> night
[01:09] <rr73> yofel~ any suggestions or is my install toast?
[01:09] <yofel> not really, boot live disk and run grub-install?
[01:10] <yofel> had to do that to a while ago, my machine got to 'GRUB loading' and then just rebooted
[01:10] <rr73> any live cd or does it have to be lucid?
[01:10] <yofel> (I suspect a W7 update to be responsible for that)
[01:11] <yofel> rr73: hm...... good question, I used a lucid one, karmic *should* be ok too I think
[01:11] <yofel> if you use grub2 you'll need at least karmic anyway
[01:25] <i_is_broke> hmmm must of had a netsplit?
[01:42] <oldude67> well that was a little weird...did update lost desktop, went to terminal did update again and its back..
[01:58] <i_is_broke> cool, netsplit night..autoscrolling..lmao
[02:19] <maxb> It really is very useful that update manager stops and tells you it has disabled 3rd party sources
[02:19] <maxb> It gives you an excellent opportunity to go and reenable them before it proceeds :-)
[02:25] <i_is_broke> <<< going to make popcorn and watch the show..lol
[02:25] <i_is_broke> scroll in ,,,,scroll out.
[02:25] <i_is_broke> :D
[02:59] <DanaG> weird... nano doesn't work under minicom.
[03:59] <rr73> yofel_~ hey you said you needed to use grub-install a few weeks ago yes?
[04:04] <DanaG> hmm, all that's left running when the system sort-of-but-not-really shuts down, are: rc, portmap, and plymouth.
[04:20] <DanaG> hmm, all that's left running when the system sort-of-but-not-really shuts down, are: rc, portmap, and plymouth.
[04:30] <webbb82> ok i want to install lucid to my external hd  would i see any lack of performance  rather than running it on my normal hd
[04:32] <rr73> i fixed my boot with grub-install but now it dumps me to term when i boot up
[04:47] <i_is_broke> are we about done with all the netsplits?
[04:47] <i_is_broke> guess not.
[04:47] <i_is_broke> ugh
[06:01] <i_is_broke> i need to reboot the test box and see if i still have x
[06:51]  * Crashbit pal curro!
[07:22] <gsedej> hi!
[07:23] <gsedej> Is some one haveing problems with bootscreen (plymounth or what?) using VIRTUALBOX?
[09:24] <om26er> !test
[10:35] <om26er> how can i disable debug mode in OSD
[10:45] <om26er> how to disable "low, report incorrect urgency?
[12:11] <SalvoMaltese> hi all
[12:11] <SalvoMaltese> can I ask about kubuntu lucid?
[12:12] <SalvoMaltese> or it's a separate channel?
[12:12] <maco> same channel
[12:12] <SalvoMaltese> ok, where I can get knetworkmanager?
[12:12] <SalvoMaltese> lucid comes without wireless support
[12:13] <maco> i thik it changed names back to plasmoid-network-manager
[12:13] <SalvoMaltese> and I only have wireless
[12:13] <maco> yeah the renaming screwed it up on the alpha1 cd. welcome to alpha :) alpha2 should have it right
[12:13] <SalvoMaltese> so I can install the package from the cd using apt-get?
[13:54] <BUGabundo_work> !test
[13:56] <mac> !test
[14:13] <maxb> Has anyone else found that gpointing-device-settings doesn't persist its settings?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> Hi all
[14:58]  * BluesKaj looks for a skype version without pulseaudio
[15:00] <BUGabundo_work> hye BluesKaj
[15:01] <joaopinto> hi BUGabundo_work
[15:02] <BluesKaj> hey BUGabundo_work , what's up ?
[15:07] <BUGabundo_work> work
[15:07] <BUGabundo_work> slowwww work
[15:07] <BUGabundo_work> coping java old debs from LP to a debian machine cause i cant find java5-1.5.0-19 any where else
[15:07] <BUGabundo_work> hope no one kills me for that
[15:21] <BluesKaj> konqueror and dolphin keeping dying "unexpectedly " after trying to add skype files to /usr/bin/skype as the readme instructs
[15:21] <BluesKaj> not after but during
[16:03] <zer0x> Can anyone tell me if its possible to secure wipe freespace on an encrypted volume? Can I still use tools from the 'secure-delete' package as an example?
[16:03] <BUGabundo_work> zer0x: yeah
[16:04] <BUGabundo_work> thats one of them, sure
[16:06] <zer0x> BUGabundo_work: so having an encrypted filesystem wont interfere with the operation of these tools? I wish the alt-installer offered a wipe erase option before setting up LVM!
[16:06] <zer0x> *encrypted
[16:20] <BUGabundo_work> zer0x: as long as u run then INSIDE the encrypted volume
[16:20] <BUGabundo_work> i see no reason not to
[16:20] <BUGabundo_work> but as always
[16:20] <BUGabundo_work> keep backups
[16:25] <zer0x> BUGabundo_work: np, cheers for the help :)
[16:32] <mostapha> I've downloaded the 10.04 image and I'm trying to install it but the up and down keys aren't working on the the F-keys and the enter key. Any ideas?
[16:33] <mostapha> I can't do anything except choose to try it and when i do and when it boots it's seems so slow even that I'm reading from an iso image on the hard which should be fast. And also nothing other than the background load.
[16:33] <BUGabundo_work> mostapha: theres a bug with this live images
[16:34] <BUGabundo_work> with squashfs
[16:34] <mostapha> BUGabundo_work: is there any other way to check it out?
[16:35] <mostapha> ??
[16:37] <BluesKaj> copying files between dirs is buggy in lucid ...moving files isn't a problem
[16:39] <BluesKaj> well, time for my daily ... BBL
[16:47] <BUGabundo_work> YAY
[16:47] <BUGabundo_work> LP now shows HOW many users  are affected
[16:47] <BUGabundo_work> WOOT WOOT
[16:47] <BUGabundo_work> http://blog.launchpad.net/coming-features/showing-the-number-of-affected-users-2
[16:54] <mrmcq2u> I can see that becoming an issue
[16:54] <rr73> hey BUGabundo_work !!
[16:54]  * rr73 waves
[16:56] <BUGabundo_work> mrmcq2u: why?
[16:57] <yofel> re folks
[16:57] <mrmcq2u> because people who are affected by bugs which are not as common might be ignored
[16:57] <yofel> grr... I hate it when it's <0°C outside...
[16:58] <rr73> yofel~ it worked
[16:58] <yofel> mrmcq2u: the 'people affected' has been there for ages, the representation was just bad
[17:00] <BUGabundo_work> mrmcq2u: devs (and triagers) already sort bugs based on ammount of affected users
[17:38] <i_is_broke> im really starting to like knowing a little about ssh..:D
[17:38] <i_is_broke> i dont have to keep moving from computer to computer to do updates..:D
[17:40] <BluesKaj> hmm, glad sssh is working for somebody, I can't seem to connect to the other linux boxes on my network after upgrading to lucid . Tried deleting the old rsa encryptions but still nothing
[18:25] <i_is_broke> these netsplits are really starting to go get annoying.ugh.
[19:34] <i_is_broke> wow, irc is really having trouble today.
[19:34] <i_is_broke> kiddies must be playing rough today..all these netsplits.
[19:34] <i_is_broke> last night they said it was cause they were doing maint. on it but i thought there was more too it.
[19:41] <sgh> Hi
[19:41] <sgh> Which package kontain the kde sftp kio-slave?
[19:47] <yofel> sgh: you mean bug 496208'
[19:47] <yofel> *?
[20:52] <douglasawh-work> bugabundo: ha. I just saw your ping from days ago.
[20:52] <BUGabundo> oh you did?
[20:52] <BUGabundo> that's a really big log douglasawh-work
[20:52] <BUGabundo> or is it just highlight ?
[20:53] <douglasawh-work> using quassel that highlights, but yeah, I'm sure the log file is enormous
[20:54] <douglasawh-work> so, ubuntu+1 peeps, I've got an encryption LVM partition.  Pretty easy to set up, but it doesn't tell me what encryption strength it is using. How do I find that out?
[20:56] <funkyHat> I still have terrible GL performance - radeon x1650, open source drivers. Anyone know if it's worth trying the edgers PPA to see if it's improved?
[20:57] <funkyHat> Or any other suggestions :)
[21:09] <arand_> upgrading gdm and in the process removing usplash, that all in order?
[21:10] <BUGabundo> arand_: hope so, for your sake
[21:10] <BUGabundo> if it goes well, let me know
[21:10] <BUGabundo> so I can upgrade too
[21:10] <BUGabundo> :D
[21:10] <BUGabundo> ginnepig
[21:11] <arand_> That sounds highly unassuring...
[21:11] <patcito> lol
[21:12] <joaopinto> anyone using 32bits could check if eclipse runs there ?
[21:12] <BUGabundo> nope
[21:12] <arand_> Well, let's just take a snapshot here then....
[21:12] <BUGabundo> 64 bits all the way
[21:12] <BUGabundo> dinner
[21:12] <BUGabundo> arand_: ping me back latter
[21:12] <BUGabundo> I wanna know how that goes
[21:12] <arand_> joaopinto: I've got a 32bit vm that would do?
[21:13] <CosmiChaos> hey i actually "lost" my onboard-sound-device, cant find any soundcontroler in hardware-tab of volume-control, alsamixer says:Fehler beim Öffen des Mixer-Gerätes: No such file or directory
[21:13] <joaopinto> arand_, it would, just to make sure is nothing specific to my system
[21:13] <joaopinto> eclipse is running fine on my desktop 64 bits, but not here on my laptop
[21:14] <CosmiChaos> can somebody help me to get my sound back?
[21:15] <arand_> hmm, that's a hefty install, eclipse...
[21:15] <arand_> ~4min
[21:17] <joaopinto> it's big :P
[21:18] <CosmiChaos> please help me
[21:22] <arand_> joaopinto: fails, interesting log message...:
[21:23] <joaopinto> yup, like if there are some 64bits libraries
[21:23] <joaopinto> on the 32bits package
[21:24] <joaopinto> arand_, do you happen to have a 32bits karmic vm to test it also ?
[21:24] <arand_> ##java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Cannot load 64-bit SWT libraries on 32-bit JVM
[21:25] <arand_> joaopinto: sure, will do.
[21:25] <arand_> full error log (lucid):http://pastebin.com/f788efb7b
[21:26] <joaopinto> ok, filing a bug report
[21:27] <arand_> that's two executions of the program in thast log btw.
[21:27] <arand_> hence duplication.
[21:27] <joaopinto> hum, strange, I have installed eclipse from software center, while running the bug reporting tool it tells me eclipse is not installed
[21:27] <joaopinto> and the eclipse package is really not installed
[21:28] <joaopinto> eclipse-platform was installed
[21:29] <joaopinto> software-centers show "Eclipse" as installed
[21:29] <arand_> I used aptitude, and hence have the eclipse package...
[21:29] <joaopinto> ok, I am installing eclipse with apt now, just to be sure
[21:32] <arand_> Hmm, the package itself doesn't actually contain anything, apart from some TODO, changelog & copyright, so it shouldn't really affect execution I guess..
[21:35] <arand_> joaopinto: Karmic version seems to be working fine
[21:35] <joaopinto> ok, thanks
[21:41] <BUGabundo> where the heck did the FUSA go???
[21:41] <BUGabundo> more breakge? pfffff
[21:42] <BUGabundo> arand_: how did the GDM upgrade go?
[21:42] <BUGabundo> wb ikonia
[21:42] <arand_> booting now
[21:43]  * BUGabundo sits back and watch the destruction
[21:45] <arand_> fb messsages on boot, no usplash logo (kind of expected...), no plymouth afaicsee, boots fine though, no other issues.
[21:45] <arand_> How boring...
[21:46] <yofel> arand_: do you have 'plymouth' installed?
[21:46] <yofel> just curious...
[21:47] <arand_> yes, package is installed.
[21:48] <arand_> uh, hang on, I lied, no it isn't... so everything is definitely as expected then, simply usplash is no more..
[21:49] <yofel> *sigh* these netsplits are getting annoying...
[21:49] <BUGabundo> yofel: +1
[21:49] <BUGabundo> at least *we* manage to be kept togheter
[21:49] <BUGabundo> aha
[21:49] <yofel> hehe
[21:50] <BUGabundo> arand_: yofel: so no plymouth? isn't that meant to be back in _again_?
[21:50] <yofel> no idea, I don't use any splash
[21:51] <arand_> I guess plymouth hasn't been pulled in as a dependendency yet, right?
[21:51] <yofel> just noticed that while usplash gets removed it doesn't seem that plymouth gets installed
[21:51] <yofel> arand_: that's what I think too
[21:51] <BUGabundo> those too *should* conflict with each other
[21:51] <arand_> they do
[21:51] <BUGabundo> yofel: we can't force depency
[21:52] <BUGabundo> cause it would not allow users to install splash if they want
[21:52] <BUGabundo> can only be a recommends
[21:53] <yofel> ah
[21:54] <arand_> yea, hmm, add some handwaving to my "depends" comment. . . Hmm, so is plymouth auto-configured on install or does it need fiddling?, I'm seeing nothing of it now I installed it.
[21:55] <joaopinto> is plymouth usable already ?
[21:58] <BUGabundo> arand_: my guess ubuntu seed will pull it in
[21:58] <BUGabundo> arand_: do you have ubuntu-desktop ?
[21:59] <arand_> BUGabundo: yup
[22:01] <arand_> I guess plymouth doesn't like the vm vid driver atm though...
[22:01] <BUGabundo> maybe
[22:01] <BUGabundo> let me upgrade mine
[22:02] <BUGabundo> and I'll let you know tomorrow how it goes
[22:04] <arand_> there seems to be some success on ati/intel: http://ohioloco.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8479380
[22:14] <joaopinto> plymouth needs a KMS capable driver
[23:29] <sebsebseb> hi
[23:40] <yofel> anyone got an idea for my kmail freeze (akonadi broken) http://yofel.pastebin.com/f30f9a1c7
[23:42] <JontheEchidna> unfortunately I do not :(
[23:43] <nvme> where can i get the minimal cd for lynx ? is there one yet ?
[23:43] <BUGabundo> nvme: there's  minimal install iso
[23:43] <BUGabundo> 12MBs
[23:43] <BUGabundo> yofel: its holding here
[23:43] <nvme> yeah thats what i want
[23:44] <BUGabundo> the only dIMAP account I had with probs, I removed and redid, all fine
[23:44] <BUGabundo> !minimal
[23:44] <BUGabundo> !daily
[23:44] <BUGabundo> nvme: its around there somewhere
[23:44] <BUGabundo> if you don't find it, let me know
[23:44] <nvme> yeh i checked those two already no lynx
[23:45] <DanaG> hmm, I'm back on that computer with the funky volume control.
[23:45] <yofel> meh, I deleted anything belonging to akonadi in ~ and it still doesn't work
[23:45] <BUGabundo> ahhh you mean you want one with lynx already??
[23:45] <BUGabundo> no no nvme
[23:46] <BUGabundo> I bet you will need to install it
[23:46] <BUGabundo> the you need base seed
[23:46] <BUGabundo> it brings a x-www
[23:47] <nvme> ah well, i was about to install XBMC with a minimal ubuntu, thought i might as well seek lynx verison
[23:49] <DanaG> weird... if I mute any one of master, pcm, surround, center, or lfe... it mutes everything.
[23:49] <DanaG> Yet, changing "Master" volume... changes only the front!
[23:50] <rr73> my screen does not stop flickering and before it would boot into low graphics mode but then gdm upgraded and now i can't see anything
[23:50] <dtchen> well, the former is intentional
[23:50] <dtchen> PA will chain the mute status "down"
[23:51] <dtchen> the latter looks like a linux bug, reasonably
[23:51] <dtchen> then again, I'm kinda missing quite some information...
[23:51] <DanaG> hmm, actually, I'm muting individual channels in alsamixer.
[23:51] <DanaG> lemme' do an alsa-info.
[23:52] <DanaG> oh, and I did fix my alsa-lib stuff... had an old .asoundrc; just removed it to fix it.
[23:52] <DanaG> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=4c9df1117d9ad43f67c14bf75ca33cb4da52b09b