[00:00]  * MenZa donces.
[00:10]  * genii donces with MenZa
[00:11] <MenZa> :D
[00:14] <gord> in the pale moonlight?
[00:18] <MenZa> <3
[00:25] <genii> In the pole moonlight ...
[00:27]  * MenZa huggles genii 
[00:28] <genii> MenZa: You nut! ;)
[02:04] <tsimpson> if anyone's listening, someone may want to try an +o in #ubuntu, in case services split again
[02:07] <Flannel> tsimpson: Does freenode still have a tummy ache?
[02:07] <Flannel> Ah, well...
[02:15] <Flannel> Howdy Flare183
[02:15] <Flannel> (I've got his host too, ifthat's what you're here for)
[02:16] <Flare183> Flannel: Alright, just checking :)
[02:16] <Flare183> Trying to help you guys out, since Freenode is having some problems :)
[02:17] <tsimpson> To #ubuntu ops: please note that the FloodBots will *not* mute anyone while these issues continue, so manual mutes/unmutes are needed
[03:51] <tsimpson> Roasted: hi
[03:53] <Roasted> hi there tsimpson
[03:53] <Roasted> I was looking for you last night.
[03:54] <Roasted> hows it hangin
[03:54] <tsimpson> I was sleeping, luckily I'm up late tonight
[03:54] <Roasted> ha, yeah. I only just now got home from work.
[03:54] <Roasted> Spent 15 hours straight imaging Windows laptops
[03:54] <Roasted> to say the least I'm ready for a vacation.
[03:55] <tsimpson> so, you wanted to talk about the ban in #k
[03:56] <Roasted> eh, yeah - it'd be nice if we could get to some sort of common ground regarding it.
[03:56] <Roasted> I thought it was a temp ban and had planned to just wait it out.
[03:56] <tsimpson> I have a question, and it's a good one
[03:56] <tsimpson> do you still feel you were right an I was abusing my operator powers?
[03:56] <Roasted> more nad more kubuntu questions came up and I was like, well, that sucks, I cant get in there
[03:57] <Roasted> It doesn't even matter anymore. I'm the first to admit I shoot my mouth off at times. I'm just used to channels that aren't so... heavily... moderated.
[03:57] <Roasted> not that it's an excuse, but, ya know
[03:57] <Roasted> it's just my view
[03:57] <tsimpson> I know #kubuntu was practically dead at that time, but we don't say rules apply 9-5 and it's a free-for-all after that
[03:57] <Roasted> yeah, that's understandable
[03:57] <tsimpson> if we enforce a rule at all, it should be all the time
[03:58] <Roasted> yeah I gotcha
[03:58] <Roasted> well anyway, I'm just trying to be civil for once and come to some sort of common ground on the matter.
[03:59] <tsimpson> Roasted: one sec and I'll get the ban removed
[03:59] <Roasted> you're the man
[04:00] <tsimpson> Roasted: you should be able to join now
[04:00] <Roasted> thanks a lot bro
[04:00] <Roasted> I appreciate it
[04:00] <Roasted> sorry about all of that too
[04:00] <Roasted> didnt mean to cause a fiasco
[04:01] <tsimpson> as long as we understand each other :)
[04:01] <Roasted> ha, you got it
[04:01] <Roasted> thanks bro
[04:01] <Roasted> Ima skiddaddle outa here now
[04:45] <ctmjr> anyone mind taking care of the racist troll in #ubuntu
[04:45] <IdleOne> Nigh8ter
[04:45] <IdleOne> needs to go
[04:49] <tsimpson> ctmjr: call ops when that stuff happens
[04:49] <ctmjr> we are look in the channe
[04:49] <tsimpson> !staff | help in #ubuntu please
[04:50] <tsimpson> all sorted
[04:50]  * tsimpson thanks staff :)
[04:50] <Amaranth> *sigh*
[04:51] <ctmjr> thank you tsimpson
[04:51] <Amaranth> Flannel: If you're around op a couple more of us
[05:01] <Flannel> Amaranth: sure, who
[05:01] <Amaranth> Well, I'll be around for an hour
[05:01] <Amaranth> tsimpson seems to be around as well
[05:02] <Flannel> Sorry about that, stepped out for a bit, didn't ealise services were still crazy, just thought we were netsplitting
[05:02] <Amaranth> Just better to have a couple in case one of us walks away from the computer for a bit
[05:42] <tsimpson> perhaps we should pressure canonical to host their own IRC server...
[05:43] <Flannel> tsimpson: That'd have the same issues at times
[05:43] <tsimpson> probably not so intensely
[05:43] <tsimpson> but I wasn't really serious
[05:45] <Flannel> tsimpson: With the number of trolls we get in #u, it's just a matter of time until people figure out they can DDOS us :)
[05:47]  * tsimpson sees another split coming
[06:12] <bazhang> asmodeus still banned ?
[06:15] <Flannel> Yeah
[06:15] <Flannel> BT doesn't seem to show it though
[06:15] <bazhang> ok
[06:15] <bazhang> just a heads-up in -ot
[06:20] <Flannel> Can someone please verify I set those (in -ot) correctly?
[06:20] <Flannel> Just whenever
[06:21] <tsimpson> those look correct
[06:21] <Flannel> thanks
[07:15] <Flannel> Been 75 minutes since the last split
[07:19] <cdm10> Bad stuff just happened.
[07:20] <jussi01> cdm10: he was klined.
[07:20] <Flannel> cdm10: Taken care of
[07:20] <cdm10> ok. Didn't see any action, so I wasn't sure anything was going on :)
[07:20] <cdm10> thanks.
[07:24] <maco> @cpe-24-175-33-160.elp.res.rr.com
[07:25] <maco> @59.39.92.148
[07:25] <maco> those are the IPs in #ubuntu
[07:25] <maco> for the multiple-users-joining-and-flooding
[07:26] <Flannel> asmodus just got klined for -monitor
[07:26] <maco> @113.199.183.105
[07:26] <Flannel> er,
[07:26] <Flannel> not monitor, what channel was that
[07:26] <Flannel> oh, #ubuntu
[07:26] <maco> i see kline for that last IP
[07:27] <Flannel> Yeah, that's asmodeus, unfortunately he'll have another IP soon
[07:27] <Tm_T> jussi01: k-lines given already (:
[07:27] <maco> not those first two
[07:27] <jussi01> #ubuntu is fun today...
[07:27] <Flannel> (avash, asmodeus, internx, seem to be his main nicks)
[07:27] <Tm_T> maco: erm, more to come?
[07:27] <jussi01> Flannel: +d?
[07:27] <maco> well i mean, i saw them quit on their own not get klined
[07:28] <Flannel> jussi01: No consistent realname, I banned them creatively earlier from -ot, hopefully it sticks
[07:28] <maco> Tm_T: did the first two hosts i pasted get klined too?
[07:29] <xae8koo> Hello
[07:29] <xae8koo> #ubuntu is crazy today!
[07:29] <The_Thing> #ubuntu is getting craploads of spam and trolls
[07:29] <Flannel> xae8koo: How can we help you?
[07:29] <maco> its one person being "funny"
[07:29] <xae8koo> Flannel: Yeah, the channel is full of spam and stuff
[07:30] <The_Thing> It's getting a little ridiculous
[07:30] <LizardK|ng> i wanted to test myself in the #ubuntu-read-topic channel and it said i wasn;t using my usual nick and to come here
[07:30] <maco> it's being dealt with, folks
[07:30] <LizardK|ng> because i want to see a mother spanking her child hard :D
[07:30] <Flannel> LizardK|ng: That means you haven't been exploited
[07:30] <The_Thing> lol
[07:30] <xae8koo> Why did underwear get unbanned?!
[07:30] <LizardK|ng> ahh ok
[07:30] <maco> xae8koo: for flooding...
[07:30] <The_Thing> Port 8001 ftw
[07:30] <tsimpson> xae8koo: because they were k-lined
[07:30] <Flannel> xae8koo: That mute was removed, other measures are in place, so he didn't really.
[07:31] <maco> xae8koo: oh unbanned. sorry i cant read :)
[07:31] <LizardK|ng> how do i become an op?
[07:31] <Flannel> xae8koo: Is there anything else we can help you with today?
[07:31] <khelvan> Does the exploit of someone trying to send me .mpegs affect my computer in any way?
[07:31] <maco> maybe we should define k-line?  it means theyre banned from the whole server
[07:31] <Flannel> The_Thing: Is there something we can help you with today?
[07:31] <Flannel> khelvan: No, it mainly affects routers
[07:31] <maco> LizardK|ng: someday if you're good you may be chosen
[07:32] <maco> LizardK|ng: that's about it
[07:32] <LizardK|ng> i want to be made
[07:32] <Flannel> khelvan: The sending of th mpegs is just silliness, they're trying to send you a file, if you deny/ignore/whatever it, you're fine
[07:32] <maco> LizardK|ng: asking won't work
[07:32] <khelvan> Flannel, thank you, I didn't know if they were exploiting a vulnerability in IRC clients or something.
[07:32] <LizardK|ng> ok, i'll do a dance instead
[07:32] <Flannel> khelvan: Nope, it's overzealous router protection
[07:33] <Flannel> !exploit | khelvan
[07:33] <Flannel> khelvan: That wiki page contains a bit more info
[07:33] <xae8koo> Flannel: Yes, can you explain all this dcc nonsense to me?
[07:33] <Flannel> xae8koo: If there's nothing else we can do for you today, please leave this channel, it's not a place for spectators.  Thank you, have a nice day.
[07:33] <khelvan> Flannel - Thanks, I will assume you guys are taking care of the problem and won't worry about my PC.
[07:33] <khelvan> Thanks.
[07:33] <Flannel> xae8koo: See the link I just gave khelvan
[07:34]  * LizardK|ng dances for the ops
[07:34] <maco> LizardK|ng: could you stop that?
[07:34] <Flannel> LizardK|ng: Please stop.  If there's nothing else we can do for you today, please leave.
[07:34] <LizardK|ng> that page is very vague
[07:34] <LizardK|ng> what would it do to a vulnerable router, and what is the vulnerability?
[07:34] <jussi01> LizardK|ng: we will get to you in a few mins
[07:35] <jussi01> The_Thing: something else you need?
[07:35] <The_Thing> nah, just idling now.
[07:35] <jussi01> xae8koo:  something else you need?
[07:35] <Flannel> The_Thing: Please don't idle here, thanks.
[07:35] <jussi01> The_Thing: please pay attention to topic
[07:35] <The_Thing> :( but it's interesting in here.
[07:36] <Flannel> LizardK|ng: The wiki page contains links to the vulnerabilities, which explain it in more detail.
[07:39] <Flannel> Wait, why is paddy_NI in -ot?
[07:39] <maco> isnt he banned for 6 more days?
[07:39] <Flannel> I'm checking to see if it somehow got removed, but yes.
[07:40] <dholbach> good morning
[07:40] <Flannel> Howdy dholbach
[07:41] <dholbach> hi Flannel
[07:43] <Paddy_NI> Flannel, I have no wish to further gratify your ego.. I guess I will be done with the offtopic indefinitely.
[07:43] <Paddy_NI> bye
[07:44] <maco> hi dholbach
[07:45] <dholbach> hi maco
[07:51] <xae8koo> jussi01: How can I make my car door unfreeze?
[07:51] <jussi01> xae8koo: please see /topic.
[07:53] <jussi01> !idle | xae8koo
[07:57] <tsimpson> !no kde4 is <reply> KDE 4.3 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.4 - KDE SC 4.4 Beta1 packages for !karmic are in progress, updates on http://www.kubuntu.org/ - Support in #kubuntu
[07:58] <tsimpson> !no kde4 is <reply> KDE 4.3 is the latest major release of the KDE Software Compilation. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.3.4 - KDE SC 4.4 Beta1 packages for !karmic are in progress, updates on http://www.kubuntu.org/ - Support in #kubuntu
[08:03] <xae8koo> !no kde4 is <reply> hello
[08:03] <xae8koo> Sorry
[08:03] <xae8koo> c ya
[08:04] <tsimpson> ...
[08:06]  * jussi01 hugs tsimpson
[08:07] <jussi01> just another reason why people shouldnt idle here.
[08:24] <bazhang> * [kikiasdfadfasd] (n=kiki@113.199.146.90): kiki  wonder if that is asmodeus in #ubuntu
[08:25] <Flannel> Yep
[10:58] <Tm_T> ooh we have sneaky guest here
[11:05] <Flannel> Tm_T: hmm?
[11:06] <jussi01> hehe
[11:06] <jussi01> Guest78837: appears to be hobbsee... :D
[11:06] <Flannel> Oh
[11:06] <jussi01> Guest78837: you could identify at some point...
[11:11] <jussi01> thanks Flannel
[11:11] <Flannel> I don't have a need for an evening dress, kthxbai
[11:13] <jussi01> Just so people understand, I am standing back a little from active operator duties, if another op is free to deal with it then I will not. However, if I am around and other ops are not, then I can and will deal with issues.
[11:14] <Flannel> jussi01: That policy is half-baked, for the record.
[11:15] <jussi01> Flannel: care to explain?
[11:16] <Flannel> I understand what it hopes to accomplish, but I don't think it will.  People are still going to whine because you're an op, and they still think we're all part of an 'exclusive club' and have each others backs 100% all the time and conspire against people.
[11:16] <jussi01> oh, cc meeting seems to be on...
[11:17] <jussi01> Flannel: I think you are missing the point. idea is just if I need to mediate, then its better if I havent been involved already.
[11:17] <Flannel> We don't (as far as I know) as the Technical board to step down from actively developing out of concerns for favoritism or cronyism or whatever.
[11:17] <jussi01> Flannel: this is temporary until we at least have a full IRCC again, then Ill look at the siutuation again.
[11:18] <jussi01> at the moment, we have 2 mediators.
[11:18] <Flannel> jussi01: No, we have a room full of mediators.  Every operator is a mediator, only after that doesn't work do we appeal to the IRCC.
[11:19] <Flannel> (well, every operator minus the one(s) involved directly)
[11:19] <jussi01> Flannel: exactly my point. If we get an appeal, and Ive been involved, where does that leave us?
[11:20] <Flannel> jussi01: I understand.  I was speaking on the other policy.
[11:20] <Guest78837> jussi01: well, freenode could stop falling over and unidentifying me, but i digress....
[11:20] <jussi01> Hobbsee: true :D
[11:21]  * Tm_T thinks we need own server
[11:21] <Flannel> Tm_T: Well, if you submit a RT ticket now, they'll get back to you about it sometime around 12.04 :)
[11:22]  * jussi01 thinks thats not such a good idea...
[11:30] <Tm_T> jussi01: ofcourse it's not, it would solve nothing (:
[12:55] <ikonia> Tm_T: what do you need a box for ?
[13:01] <Tm_T> ikonia: freenode irc-server (:)
[13:02] <ikonia> ahhh
[13:16] <MenZa> If anyone feels like cheering for me in six hours, I'll be in -meeting for the EMEA meeting :)
[13:16] <MenZa> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA
[13:18] <Tm_T> MenZa: you too?
[13:18] <Tm_T> hrrrr
[13:19] <MenZa> 'me too'?
[13:19] <MenZa> :o
[13:20] <Tm_T> MenZa: some others I know are there too
[13:20] <MenZa> Ah :)
[13:20] <MenZa> I signed up for the last meeting, but we ran out of time.
[15:57] <Mike_lifeguard> Is the sourcecode for the floodbots available?
[15:57] <ikonia> no, sorry
[18:03]  * genii sips
[18:27]  * MenZa has his EMEA meeting in ~30 minutes - feel free to come cheer for him!
[19:07] <Pici> uh, no
[19:09] <jussi01> Amaranth: when you wake up, maybe its a good idea to identify :)
[19:11] <Flannel> Oh, joy.
[19:11] <MenZa> I can haz cloak?
[19:18] <MenZa> jussi01: I can haz cloak?
[19:20] <MenZa> aw.
[19:27] <MenZa> \o/ membership
[19:28] <gord> congrats :)
[19:28] <maco> yay!
[19:29] <jussi01> MenZa: congrats!
[19:29]  * tsimpson wonders if MenZa wants a @ubuntu/member/pdpc.supporter.student.menza or @pdpc/supporter/student/ubuntu.member.menza cloak
[19:30] <jussi01> he wants the first...
[19:30] <MenZa> eh, scratch the pdpc.supporter bit
[19:30] <MenZa> I'll donate anyway
[19:30] <jussi01> MenZa: just ubuntu/member then?
[19:30] <MenZa> Just ubuntu/member/menza :)
[19:30] <MenZa> Yup :)
[19:31] <Flannel> menza or Menza?
[19:31] <Flannel> enquiring minds want to know!
[19:31] <MenZa> :d
[19:31] <jussi01> MenZa: i beleive you and all, but could you pop up in -irc and ask - with supporting LP page?
[19:32] <gord> (he doesn't believe you ;))
[19:32] <gord> (and won't give me a pony)
[19:32] <Flannel> gord: Will you give me a pony?
[19:32] <gord> i would if i had one to give!
[19:32] <MenZa> :D
[19:43] <Flannel> Oh geez, vigilantes.
[19:48] <maco> Flannel: hmm?
[19:49] <Flannel> maco: Xenefungus came into #u and mentioned they were planning on 'striking back', soliciting supporters to join #revenge4freenode
[19:49] <maco> oh dear
[20:22] <genii> Flannel: Their naming scheme of Xenefungus reminds me of Macrophage, et al
[20:28] <mneptok> I HAS AN P0SS3!
[20:28] <Flannel> mneptok: Eh?
[20:29] <Flannel> mneptok: Is there a "mneptok-should-get-a-proper-shirt" group on LP or something?
[20:29] <mneptok> Flannel: i have one. it's made from chest haor and fairy dust.
[20:37] <MenZa> jpds! jpds!
[20:54] <jpds> MenZa: What?
[20:55] <MenZa> Nevermind :(
[21:56] <ikonia> topyli: are you going to remove her from offtopic ?
[21:57] <Flannel> ikonia: already done
[21:58] <Flannel> Oh, then came back, and left again
[21:59] <topyli> yes i only removed, no ban
[21:59] <topyli> mistake i guess
[22:58] <Flannel> She's stopped, looks like a bad paste
[22:58]  * Flannel assumes she, could be he.