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thorsten11hello all01:13
unit3hey01:14
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darthanubis2.6.31-16-generic-pae I don't know why this kernel got installed, but I'd like the plain ole linux-image-server kernel to be used03:09
darthanubisI installed the server pacakge but it does not seem to have installed that jernel?03:09
darthanubiscould someone point out my error please?03:09
MTecknologydarthanubis: pastebin apt-get search linux-image03:11
darthanubisk03:12
darthanubisyou mean apt-cache?03:13
MTecknologyuse aptitude03:13
darthanubishttp://pastebin.com/d6dab1f4203:14
darthanubisI don't even see the kernel in the cache?03:15
MTecknology21:13 < MTecknology> use aptitude03:15
darthanubisI see the meta-package but not the lernel03:15
darthanubisthe results are the same of course03:16
MTecknologymy patience is gone - too much going ont03:16
darthanubishttp://pastebin.com/d62dd978b03:16
MTecknologythey are not the same03:16
darthanubisthey are03:17
MTecknologyyup - patience gone03:17
darthanubisthanks03:17
darthanubisyour first reply was incorrect to start03:17
darthanubisanyone aboard know what they are talking about with a better attitude?03:18
ScottKdarthanubis: There is no i386 server kernel in 9.1003:19
darthanubisthank you03:19
ScottKIt's either generic or generc-pae03:19
darthanubisvery much03:19
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ScottKMTecknology: If you don't have the patience to be helpful, it's better to say nothing (yes, I know this is hard).03:20
MTecknologyScottK: Sorry... I've been really busy and I just wanted offer quick help. I just got ticked when I was greated with "......."03:21
Doonzhey guys i need some help03:27
Doonzany vmware experts in here?03:27
darthanubis!ask03:28
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)03:28
ScottKDoonz: Your odds are a lot better during the US or European business day.03:28
TrickFinlay2whats the issue Doonz?03:28
Doonzwell03:28
Doonzi followed a guide to install03:29
Doonzit seem to work03:29
Doonzthen when i went to connect to the web admin app nothing happened03:29
Doonzim just trying to figure out how-to remove everything03:29
Doonzbut im brand new to linux03:29
MTecknologyDoonz: what version did you install?03:31
DoonzVMware-server-2.0.2-203138.x86_64.tar.gz03:31
MTecknologyand on what version of Ubuntu?03:31
Doonz9.10 64bit03:31
MTecknologyI think the only officially supported version of Ubuntu is the last LTS03:31
MTecknologydid you install from command line so you can still give us the output?03:32
Doonzhere let me pastebin03:33
Doonzhttp://pastebin.com/m16daa2e03:35
MTecknologycan you pastebin ls -l rm /lib/modules/2.6.31-16-server/misc/ ?03:36
Doonzhttp://pastebin.com/m3829547103:37
MTecknologyDoonz: Do 'sudo -s' to becoem root03:38
MTecknologyrm /lib/modules/2.6.31-16-server/misc/vm*03:38
MTecknology/usr/bin/vmware-config.pl03:39
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MTecknologyDoonz: don't try running extra commands though03:39
ChrisRutWhere can I find ab2 in apt-get? I already did apt-cache search, and couldn't find anything?03:40
DoonzMTecknology: it tells me to run as super user03:40
MTecknologyDoonz: did you do 'sudo -s' ?03:41
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Doonzok will do03:41
MTecknologyChrisRut: what is ab2?03:41
ChrisRuthttp://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/programs/ab.html03:41
ChrisRutapache benchmarking tool03:41
Doonzhttp://pastebin.com/m661b0b2503:42
MTecknologyChrisRut: I believe it's apache2-utils03:43
ChrisRutnope... already got that one03:43
MTecknologyDoonz: did you run the rm command?03:43
ChrisRuterr, maybe I need to find it03:43
MTecknologyChrisRut: can you pastebin 'ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-available/' ?03:44
ChrisRuthttp://pastebin.com/m532d629903:44
ChrisRutI don't think it's a mod however... it should be it's own tool03:45
ChrisRutsample use would be ab2 -c1 -n500 http://google.com/index.php03:45
DoonzMTecknology:  i copy and pasted your command03:45
ChrisRutWhich would hit http://google.com/index.php 500 times03:45
ChrisRutbut it's used for benchmarking webservers, I want to use it on my own server03:45
ChrisRutgot it03:47
MTecknologyDoonz: do this...    rm -r /lib/modules/2.6.31-16-server/misc/   then   /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl03:47
ChrisRutit's 'ab' not 'ab2'03:47
ChrisRutsorry03:47
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MTecknologyChrisRut: did you find it after installing the -utils package?03:47
ChrisRutno, I just relized it's ab, not ab2, sorry for the mixup, thanks for your help MTecknology03:48
ChrisRutbut to answer your question, yup it is inthe apache2-util03:48
MTecknologyChrisRut: no - sorry I couldn't help you better03:48
MTecknologyno problem*03:48
ChrisRuthave a good one :-)03:48
DoonzMTecknology: http://pastebin.com/m73b35d7503:49
MTecknologyDoonz: Yes03:49
MTecknologyDoonz: just follow the step by step instructions now. pastebin the output03:50
Doonzok03:51
Doonzhttp://pastebin.com/m18daf56f03:52
MTecknologyDoonz: we need to kill those remaining processes03:53
Doonzo.O03:53
MTecknologyDoonz: top -b | grep -v vmware03:53
MTecknologyCtrl+C afterit runs once03:54
Doonzok done03:55
MTecknologypastebin03:55
Doonzok03:55
MTecknologyand link..03:56
MTecknologyDoonz: and the link03:57
Doonzbah i cant seem to copy the output03:58
Doonzive got 6 or so processes that i see with vmware in them04:00
MTecknologyyou see the number...04:00
MTecknologydo kill PID04:00
MTecknologywhere PID is the number04:00
MTecknologyafter that...04:00
MTecknologyrun the top command again and if anything still shows up use kill -9 PID04:01
Doonzdont see anything else now04:01
MTecknologyrun that script again now04:02
Doonzok04:02
DoonzGAH04:02
Doonzit still says theres crap running04:02
MTecknologykill the services again...04:04
MTecknologyrun the uninstall script04:04
MTecknologyDoonz: then find / -name *vmware*04:06
MTecknologyDoonz: then    find / -name *vmware*04:06
MTecknologydelete anything you don't need04:06
MTecknologyrm -r04:06
MTecknologyThen reboot; try to vmware install again04:07
Doonzwow found a whole bunch more processes04:07
MTecknologyand good luck04:07
MTecknologyoh04:07
Doonzused htop to kill them04:07
Doonznow ill try rerunning that script04:07
MTecknologygood luck04:07
Doonzok its going now04:08
MTecknology:D04:08
Doonzlets see what happens04:08
MTecknologygotta love it when there's massive issues04:09
Doonzhehe04:10
DoonzYAY thanx MTecknology04:10
MTecknologyDoonz: vmware is a pain... Xen is usually a better choice if your system can handle it. but for small implementations vmware works decent enough04:11
MTecknologyDoonz: for my system I use virtualboce. NP - glad it's working for you.04:11
Doonzi just wanted it so i can load up ubuntu server on it and learn without hosing my main server04:11
MTecknologyvirtualbox would probably have been easier :P04:13
MTecknologyI should have asked that to start04:13
maxagazhi04:16
maxagazhow to do scp many files at the same time, like: scp [foo, bar, *.mp3] user@host:~ ?04:17
maxagazwhat is the correct syntax ?04:17
MTecknologymaxagaz: scp {foo,bar,*mp3}04:19
MTecknologyiirs - that will work if you're using bash04:19
maxagazMTecknology, thanks!04:20
MTecknologynp - hope I04:20
MTecknology'm right04:20
maxagazMTecknology, what about: scp foo bar *.mp3 user@host:~  ?04:21
darthanubismaxagaz,  or you could shell in with gftp04:22
benc1I want to use a cron job to send updates to another server with http every 1 minutes04:49
benc1if the other server is not reachable or slow, is it possible that another job will start before the old one ends?04:50
benc1do I need to lock the file the job reading the data need to be send?04:50
MTecknologybenc1: a timeout would be a better solution04:57
MTecknologybenc1: but ya, it's possible to launch it multiple times04:57
benc1MTecknology: how do I make sure the file size won't increase all the time?05:00
benc1MTecknology: can a job running every minute can hurt the server performance or is it negligible?05:00
ScottKDepends on the job.05:01
ScottKThe act of cron triggering something won't have a significant impact.05:01
benc1my cron will read data from a text file and send it using http (python?)05:02
MTecknologybenc1: what kind of data are you trying ot send?05:02
benc1MTecknology: I run a social network that needs to sync friendships and profile changes with another server05:03
MTecknologybenc1: It sounds like you might be better off trying to use something like sshfs05:04
MTecknology!sshfs05:04
ubottuhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS05:04
MTecknologybenc1: then the data just shows up over there05:04
MTecknologybenc1: you could look into also using SQL synchornization across two servers05:05
benc1looks interesting but I don't think it is usefull in my case05:05
MTecknologyjust ideas..05:05
benc1I'm actually providing a service to social networks05:05
MTecknologyoh05:05
benc1so I want to keep it easy as possible05:05
benc1http is great because the user doesn't have to open his server for me05:05
benc1and we can always use ssl if we want security05:06
benc1I don't expect large amounts of data but I don't want the social network to crawl if there is a problem with my server (the service)05:06
MTecknologyBLISS ->  /ignore -channels #freenode *05:09
MTecknology:)05:09
MTecknologybenc1: If there's timestamps in the file... I'd say send it whole each time and let them deal with any overlap05:10
MTecknologybenc1: then like you said; just send it; if it fails you try again in 1min05:10
benc1ok, thanks05:10
qman__benc1, if timeouts become an issue, change it to every two or three minutes instead05:30
benc1maybe instead of a cron job, the remote server can send an http request to the social network server05:32
benc1the social network can keep the data in a db05:32
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uvirtbotNew bug: #496840 in samba (main) "Failure to set permissions on Samba share via CIFS" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49684006:07
XiXaQcan someone point me to a beginners guide to UEC and creation of guest instances? Or maybe I should say images, I mean the configuration of images from which instances are created.06:10
XiXaQhow does it differ from cloning a base image using libvirt, for instance?06:16
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falstaff|wHello, does anyone have an idea why libvirt always creates dnsmasq processes even when i want to configure routed networks? Is it a bug? Route doesnt work proper then...09:05
uvirtbotNew bug: #274298 in bridge-utils (main) "br0: Dropping NETIF_F_UFO since no NETIF_F_HW_CSUM feature." [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27429809:27
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a_okIs it safe to remove all dead symlinks?10:52
lauhello, how do I know if a server is kvm able ?11:14
lauI used dmidecode and checked FLAGS VME (Virtual mode extension) on my proc11:14
lauis there ayny way to determine if the server can be virtualized ?11:15
lauI used dmidecode and checked FLAGS VME (Virtual mode extension) on my proc but not sure what to conclude11:19
_rubenlau: trying to load the appropriate kvm module should give enough indication11:20
jiboumanslau: the kvm homepage has a faq on this: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/FAQ#How_can_I_tell_if_I_have_Intel_VT_or_AMD-V.3F11:21
_rubenthen again .. "being able to run kvm" and "can be virtualized" are totally different things, the first refers to be being host, the 2nd refers to be being migrated to a guest11:21
a_okIs it safe to remove all dead symlinks in Ubuntu?11:24
jiboumansa_ok: that's tough to say without knowing the underlying software. it *should* be, but hard to guarantee. where are the symlinks coming from?11:26
uvirtbotNew bug: #496922 in net-snmp (main) "Ubuntu snmpd package doesn't include all net-snmpd modules" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49692211:26
a_okI know symlinks are sometimes made in advance or misused for some other purpose than intended11:26
a_okjiboumans: I just searched for all the symlinks on the system, I can however make a list of symlinks that i find suspicous11:26
jiboumansa_ok: if you're not sure where they are coming from or you haven't made them yourself, i'd be very hesitant to delete things11:27
a_okfiles like /usr/share/locale/??/LC_TIME/coreutils.mo11:27
jiboumansa_ok: they are likely part of a package. do 'dpks -S' on one of those files11:29
a_okjiboumans: that is really annoying I wanted to automate the process. I know all dead symlinks that we make can be delleted11:29
jiboumansa_ok: you may want to limit it to certain paths then; /usr/local/ is meant for non-managed things usually11:30
a_okyeah this was in /usr/share/locale11:31
a_okudev makes by far the largest amount of dead links11:31
a_okjiboumans: generally I hate dead symlinks and want to get rid of them but if they mess up my system that is worse of course. We customized this server a great deal most crap is comming from Ubuntu's default setup though11:34
sorenPeople who come into support channels and call the subject matter "crap" or whatever never cease to amaze me.11:39
sorena_ok: *Noone* in here is obligated to help you. If you want help, it's a good idea to be tactful. Calling something people have spent (and are spending) a /lot/ of time working on "crap" is not going to get you very far.11:41
qman__I can't forsee broken symlinks serving any purpose, but that's just my personal perspective11:42
qman__I wouldn't mess with them a production server11:42
a_oksoren: I did not mean it like that at all, crap in the sence of litter as in dead symlinks unneaded files you know crap11:42
qman__I'd build a fresh install to play with11:42
sorena_ok: regardless.11:43
a_oksoren: I have high respect and regards towards ubuntu and her packages please dont get me wrong11:43
qman__*I wouldn't mess with them _ON_ a production server11:43
qman__brain no worky11:43
a_okqman__: I know wine uses symlinks that only make sence to wine but are broken to linux11:44
a_okqman__: I have found out that the udev stuff is not needed and crap from a previous version (pre 104)11:45
a_okthe coreutils.mo I don't know11:46
jiboumansa_ok: what did dpkg -S say?11:46
a_okjiboumans: its from coreutils11:46
a_okcoreutils: /usr/share/locale/af/LC_TIME/coreutils.mo11:46
jiboumansso throwing it away will cause the package to be incomplete11:47
a_okjiboumans: ah i see11:47
jiboumansa_ok: it seems to me that you have 2 sets of symlinks (regardless if they're useful or not): those added by packages and those added by some running code/users/etc11:48
jiboumansdpkg -S should at least least let you distinguish that. if they're symlink from ubuntu packages that look unneeded, a low prio bug report may be in order against them11:48
a_okjiboumans: all right will do that thanks again I think I can work something out now11:50
jiboumansa_ok: no problem at all. good luck11:50
a_oksoren: is crap a bad word to use in general btw? I use it a lot (as you can see from my sentence I also called our own stuff crap)11:53
laujiboumans: thx, great link, I egrep '^flags.*(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo12:24
laubut got no returns does this mean the hardware is not VT able ?12:25
jiboumanslau: that's what the FAQ seems to suggest; you can't run kvm on it to serve as a host12:25
laujiboumans: i am trying to check the cpu manufacturer but ? Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz12:28
jiboumanslau: looks like you have an intel cpu ;)12:29
sorena_ok: I personally don't enjoy seeing it used to refer to something I spend a lot of time working on.12:30
lauhttp://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/sb/CS-021288.htm12:31
a_oksoren: yeah I don't like that either unless what I produced is utter crap (well still might not like it but will see the point)12:33
sorenlau: There's probably 50 different kinds of "Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz".12:33
zulmorning12:34
a_oklau: yes it mains that your cpu is not VT able unless something in the bios is turned off12:34
a_okmeans*12:34
a_oklau: if you are onling running guests and you want performance id suggest you take a look at openvz12:37
jiboumansmorning zul12:37
a_okerm i ment only there12:37
zulhey jiboumans12:39
lauhi a_ok thx, I would like to test kvm on that specific server (I already use linux-vservers)12:40
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lauI am trying to identify the spec page of my CPU at intel website but can't12:40
sorenlau: Can you put the full /proc/cpuinfo on pastebin?12:40
a_oklau: well unless there is a specific option in your bios to enable intel-VT the kvm-module won't load12:41
lauhttp://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL88S ?12:41
a_oklau: you can run the the modified qemu though it will run much slower though at it lacks hardware acceleration12:42
a_oklau: I think that one does not have VT12:43
lauhttp://pastebin.com/m1f53a49612:44
sorenI can't believe they left out the type identifier from the CPUID string.12:56
* soren wonders what they're smoking over at Intel's.12:56
a_ok2soren: bet its crap...12:58
sorenI bet you're right.12:59
a_ok2lau: again I don't see any vmx in there so nojoy13:00
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lausoren: may you please copy/paste the CPUID string you are referencing please ?13:04
smoserhello all.13:35
jiboumansmorning smoser13:37
sorensmoser: o/13:38
jiboumanszul: please let us know what the result of the autofs investigation is in the blueprint :)14:01
zuljiboumans: good point14:02
jiboumanszul: if you need feedback from mathias on server-lucid-improve-testcases, perhaps putting a feedback request in the blueprint is the easiest way to get his attention14:19
zuljiboumans: ok will do14:21
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nealmcbhasn't looked like a good day for freenode....16:19
Doonzhey guys is it possible to roll beck my server from 9.10 to 9.04?16:24
nealmcbDoonz: I don't think there is an automated process for that.  What's not working for you?16:27
Italian_Plumber1doonz: the short answer is "no". :(16:27
nealmcbjiboumans: Howdy and welcome!16:28
Doonzvmware :(16:34
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TeTeTkirkland: you know if live instance migration will eventually become available in UEC?18:15
kirklandTeTeT: it is not a target for 10.0418:20
kirklandTeTeT: though the building blocks (kvm, libvirt) should work by then18:20
jiboumansnealmcb: thanks for the warm welcome :)18:21
TeTeTkirkland: thanks, other question: how to make the cluster controller HA? any recommendations?18:21
nealmcbjiboumans: glad to have you on board.  What time zones do you frequent?18:22
jiboumansnealmcb: i tend to hop on airplanes, but mostly CET18:23
kirklandTeTeT: I don't about that one, at this point18:23
nealmcbjiboumans: still in the PoznaƄ Area?18:24
TeTeTkirkland: I get this asked in about every class, how critical the CLC and CC are and how to make them redundant, so it might be to late for 10.04, but should be considered sometime in the future18:25
kirklandTeTeT: yeah, please file a Wishlist bug on that18:25
kirklandTeTeT: the Eucalyptus guys might have some suggestions18:25
TeTeTkirkland: ok, thanks18:26
TeTeTkirkland: a bug or rather a question?18:27
TeTeTkirkland: filed as bug 497087, can be converted to a question if need be18:29
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 497087 in eucalyptus "Redundancy for cloud and cluster controller" [Wishlist,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49708718:29
SJr|nxI install Ubuntu Server on an Intel Xeon Based Mac, directly, and the system doesn't boot. I looked around and it turns out I need reFit installed, but it's a Mac OS X image, and I wiped Mac OS X18:43
jiboumansdamn all these netsplits18:45
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zulgah19:11
marks256how would i go about making my own DDNS server? Something similar to Dyndns19:20
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Doonzhttp://pastebin.com/d4d1758b0 <-- anyone know what that error is when i try to make libtorrent-0.12.219:51
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ruben23hi, how do set some application to automatically20:41
ruben23start20:41
ruben23on reboot of ubuntu server20:42
ruben23anyone have idea...?20:43
ruben23hi20:46
msantosruben23, create a script to start your application in /etc/init.d or add it's path to /etc/rc.local (make sure it runs in the background)20:53
Italian_Plumber1anybody here run SugarCRM?21:06
Italian_Plumber1I have an installation of SugarCRM that's very slow.  Granted it's on an older box (Pentium III 450 / 256MB RAM), but the box is otherwise quite capable in most server type applications.21:07
Italian_Plumber1wondering if there's any tweaking I can do to get it to move a little faster.21:08
Italian_Plumber1pages take 8-10 seconds to load.21:08
Italian_Plumber1the installation's going to used by only one person, so it's not going to see a lot of load.21:09
X-M4-Xhello anyone here21:18
uvirtbotNew bug: #497149 in lirc (universe) "Packages using DKMS should make use of /usr/lib/dkms/common.postinst" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49714921:21
X-M4-Xwell i need to know why im getting temporary errors with us.archive.com when i type apt-get install update or anything with that command21:22
bogeyd6Italian_Plumber have you solved the sugarcrm slownedd?21:24
Italian_Plumberno I just came back I had to log off... did someone say something?21:24
bogeyd6i was thinking when i got back on and checked the scroll about the server specs and ram you mentioned21:25
bogeyd6you need to check a top in the cli while accessing the pages and see if your CPU is hitting 100%21:25
Italian_Plumberoh yes it sure is21:26
bogeyd6using mysql or flat files?21:27
X-M4-Xso is there anyone here having "Temporary failure"'s with security.ubuntu.com and us.archive.ubuntu.com21:27
Italian_Plumbermysql...21:27
Italian_Plumberactually it seems to be a little better now -- maybe 50% when a page is loading21:27
bogeyd6its only temporary21:28
bogeyd6Italian_Plumber what does the out of "free" show?21:28
Mike_lifeguardI'm trying to get my router to send logs to syslog on my server - how can I get those lines into their own file (ie log router stuff to /var/log/router.log)?21:28
Italian_Plumberhttp://pastebin.com/m768083e21:29
Mike_lifeguardhuh, it seems nothing is being logged anyways, so maybe that should be fixed first :\21:29
bogeyd6well you arent going into SWAP so that is a good sign21:30
bogeyd6Mike_lifeguard using syslog-ng ?21:30
Italian_Plumberyeah well this box isn't doing anything else.21:30
Mike_lifeguardbogeyd6: rsyslogd21:30
DoonzHey is anyone using the new vmware server 2.02 on 9.10?21:30
bogeyd6the only thing i can say is cpu is everything in a php/mysql/apache thing you got going there, so check out http://www.sugarcrm.com/wiki/index.php?title=Performance_Tweaks_for_Large_Systems and pray they work for small systems that might as well be large systems21:31
Italian_Plumberdoonz: I stuck with 1.07 ...21:31
bogeyd6Mike_lifeguard i only know how to use syslog-ng21:31
Doonzman i have nothing but greif21:31
Italian_PlumberThing is, I have a custom-written PHP/mysql/apache application that I develop on there... and it's just fine.21:32
Italian_PlumberI'll check that page, though, thans21:32
Doonzi just wanted to have it installed so i could mess qround on different linux distros so i wasnt constantly redoing my main server21:32
Doonzbut now i dont know howto remove vmware server cleanly21:33
Doonzso now im going to have to reformat im guessing21:33
bogeyd6doonz using the vmware .deb package?21:33
Doonzthere isnt one21:33
bogeyd6Doonz vmware-uninstall.pl21:34
bogeyd6i forgetted21:35
bogeyd6sudo vmware-uninstall.pl21:35
Doonzman i cant even get it to stop21:35
Doonzthis is awesome21:35
Doonzffs21:35
bogeyd6wait wait21:35
bogeyd6stop panicking21:36
Doonzday 521:36
bogeyd6just run /etc/init.d/vmware stop21:36
bogeyd6it will complain about machines running21:36
bogeyd6rite?21:36
Doonzpast the point of panicking now just pissed off21:36
Doonzbogeyd6: yes21:36
X-M4-XGuess ill just work on the mail server.21:36
bogeyd6ok then21:36
Doonzlet me pastebin21:36
bogeyd6so login to the interface and kill the machines hard21:37
bogeyd6*press stop power button several times until machine stops*21:37
Doonzbogeyd6: cant log into the web thingy21:37
Doonzi used to could21:37
Doonznow it doesnt work21:37
Doonz:(21:37
Doonzhttp://pastebin.com/daca4a3521:37
bogeyd6update-rc.d -f vmware remove21:38
bogeyd6restart machine21:38
bogeyd6then run the uninstall21:38
Doonzok21:38
bogeyd6i keep forgetted sudo!!21:38
Doonzlet me reboot21:39
Doonzback21:41
Doonzwhat was the uninstall command?21:41
bogeyd6sudo vmware-uninstall.pl21:41
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Doonzk that seems to have worked21:42
bogeyd6yay21:43
bogeyd6now more bawwing about having to reformat!21:43
Doonzany recommendations for a virtual machine server?21:44
bogeyd6vmware server 2 :P21:45
Doonz*sigh*21:45
bogeyd6it really is the best21:45
bogeyd6what was your specific issue?21:45
Doonzthe web management tool would screw up21:46
Doonzand i couldnt do anything21:46
bogeyd6i would have tried to fix it before i ditched it21:46
Doonzim getting awesome at installing it21:46
Doonzyou want to help me sort the problem out?21:46
bogeyd6!xen21:47
ubottuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen21:47
bogeyd6thats the supported one21:47
uvirtbotNew bug: #492891 in mailman (main) "poff" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49289121:47
Mike_lifeguardIs there a mailing list for server stuff? (as opposed to ubuntu-users)21:47
bogeyd6Mike_lifeguard http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+server+mailing+list21:48
Doonzuh the guide for xen wasnt written for my distro21:48
Doonzid rather use vmware21:49
Doonzbogeyd6: can you try to help me fix whats broken?21:49
bogeyd6which server version are you using, first?21:49
Doonz9.10 64bit21:50
bogeyd6argh21:50
bogeyd6no wonder you are having issues21:50
bogeyd6!lts21:50
ubottuLTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Hardy (Hardy Heron 8.04).  The next LTS release is scheduled to be !Lucid (Lucid Lynx 10.04)21:50
Doonz:(21:50
bogeyd6!hardy @ doonz21:50
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:50
bogeyd6!hardy | doonz21:50
ubottudoonz: Ubuntu 8.04-LTS (Hardy Heron) was the eighth release of Ubuntu. Downloading: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04 - See !lts for more details.21:50
Doonzso i shoulda installed 8.0421:51
bogeyd6yes21:51
Doonzso now i should reformat21:51
bogeyd6no21:51
X-M4-Xi want to uninstall mysql anyone know the code?21:51
bogeyd6did you put /home/ on a separate partition?21:51
bogeyd6X-M4-X apt-get remove mysql21:51
X-M4-XThank you21:51
Mike_lifeguardsudo apt-get remove mysql-server21:51
bogeyd6Doonz did you put /home/ on its own partition?21:51
Doonzbogeyd6: no. my home directory resides on the main partition21:52
bogeyd6!#$!@21:52
Doonzi have a raid card with 2xs raid 5 arrays that are binded to directories within my home directory21:52
bogeyd6ok well rule #1 is always set away your /home/ and your /var partitions so if you need to change or reinstall you dont lose that stuff21:53
Doonzi could lose home and not cry21:53
Doonzsame with var21:53
Doonzbut i have no monitor or keyboard hooked up to this server so installing was a pita21:53
bogeyd6well if you are comfortable with all that you need to go to LTS for the server21:54
Doonzbogeyd6: is there a way to do it through my current shell?21:54
bogeyd6dunno, but i do recall suse has a VNC setup so I would assume ubuntu does to21:54
Doonzdont have a gui installed on this thing21:54
uvirtbotNew bug: #497171 in ec2-api-tools (multiverse) "update ec2-api-tools to api version 2009-11-30 (1.3-46266)" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49717121:56
bogeyd6Doonz i dont know how to downgrade from the cli21:57
uvirtbotNew bug: #439366 in euca2ools "euca-describe-images does not show kernel and ramdisk for an image" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/43936622:00
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uvirtbotNew bug: #494822 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (universe) "package mysql-server-5.0 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49482222:08
smosergood night all22:10
X-M4-Xok this mysql is pissing me off22:23
Doonzis there a way to downgrade through the cli from 9.10 to 8.04?22:23
ScottKDoonz: No.22:28
Doonzreally22:28
ScottKOr rather not one that's not way harder than reinstalling.22:28
Doonzthere one Im a idiot patch availible?22:28
X-M4-Xlol i wish there was for mysql, i configured and configured yet it just wont work22:29
bogeyd6X-M4-X what exactly is the problem22:29
bogeyd6Doonz you could try the XEN route22:30
bogeyd6!xen | Doonz22:30
ubottuDoonz: XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen22:30
Doonzyeah maybe i should just reinstall and get onto a lts supported system22:31
Doonz:/22:31
X-M4-XAlright i have installed mysql-server and configured(i think) the root password.  installed phpmyadmin , i have everything configured i type mysql into the terminal and get "Error: access denied for root@localhost using password = 'NO'22:31
sorenbogeyd6: What's difference is that going to make?22:31
bogeyd6!qemu | doonz22:31
ubottudoonz: qemu is an emulator you can use to run another operating system - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo22:31
sorenX-M4-X: Sure. You're not using a password.22:31
sorenX-M4-X: "mysql -u root -p"22:31
bogeyd6X-M4-X you need to set the -p option22:31
ScottKDoonz: Or wait 4 months and upgrade to one.22:32
Doonzhm22:32
bogeyd6soren i was helping him fix his vmware server 2 problem, and the only way he is gonna get it working right is to switch to LTS and install it. So he is looking for a downgrade option, which there isnt, or another vm server22:32
X-M4-XWhen i do the -p option and enter the password it gives me error just no is yes, even when i hit enter it says error again22:32
sorenX-M4-X: Wrong password, then.22:33
X-M4-Xwhere the heck is the config file with the password than because ive tried every password i have ever used22:34
X-M4-Xi bet i have not even set one that would be funny22:34
bogeyd6X-M4-X did you ever run mysql_secure_installation22:35
X-M4-Xok i think we hit some light here22:36
X-M4-Xi run - errors all up and down22:36
bogeyd6X-M4-X you are too all over the map, slow the sh*t down and go step by step with us22:37
X-M4-Xok i ran it got errors untill i finally got the root password from my xampp installation (old one)22:38
SkaagIs there a graphical tool for managing KVM Instances?22:39
bogeyd6virt-manager22:40
X-M4-Xok ill be right back going to take my meds so im not all over the place22:40
Skaagthanks22:40
SockPantshi all22:41
bogeyd6hi22:41
SockPantsis there a utility/command to get an overview of system specs?22:42
bogeyd6sudo lshw22:42
X-M4-XWoah!22:43
bogeyd6lshw can be pretty b a22:43
SockPantsbogeyd6: nice, thanks22:44
X-M4-XMy problem was i forgot the password i set last month22:48
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uvirtbotNew bug: #496676 in libvirt (main) "libvirtd does not call qemu-kvm with "-enable-kvm" flag for hardware virtualization" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49667623:02
kirklandkees: i need to add /usr/sbin/ietadm (iscsi target) to /etc/eucalyptus/wrappers.conf ... do I need any sort of "approval" from you to do so?23:04
keeskirkland: nah.  just follow conventions and try to make sure it's limited in scope.23:08
kirklandkees: okay23:08
keesi.e. it's not possible to make ietadm overwrite random files, etc.23:08
kirklandkees: k23:09
X-M4-Xwhat command gets remote files NOT stored as a package?23:10
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DoonzHey how can i just download the *.iso file from ubuntu23:24
Doonzneed to do it through wget23:25
jcastrohttp://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-amd64.iso23:28
jcastroof whatever?23:28
jcastroDoonz: ^^23:28
Doonzok23:28
Doonznope dunt work23:29
Doonzgot it23:30
Doonzhttp://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntu-8.04.3-server-amd64.iso23:30
ding__any word on FCoE support?23:33
X-M4-Xanyone know of a good free hosting control panel - so i can finish this crap23:45
poningrucpanel?23:46
X-M4-Xi said free23:46
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arctic_importOkay all I'm having a heck of a time getting any of my Ubuntu 9.10 server to use LDAP for nss.  Is it broken?  Can someone point me to a doc.  All my other non-ubuntu machines work fine.23:48
resnowhats the best way to backup a server? raid, etc?23:52
alex88resno: raid and also external and offline backup23:53
resnothis will be a house server. is raid the most cost effective method?23:53
subRAID is more about fault tolerance and less about backup/disaster recovery23:54
alex88yeah, but it protects from hard disk failure, not virus etc23:54
subit's a good thing to have, however23:54
subfor a home server? i wouldn't get a fancy RAID card or anything but software RAID, maybe23:54
subhard drives are relatively low-cost these days23:54
alex88yes, a simple raid that now can be done by almost all motherboards will be fine23:55
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resnoThis is sorta weird question. The internet connection is in an island type place, can server connect wirelessly?23:57
alex88sure...why not?23:58
alex88you have to make it connecting or as ap?23:59

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