[01:13] <thorsten11> hello all
[01:14] <unit3> hey
[01:27] <ewook> yo.
[01:35] <photon> Yo.
[02:00] <pmatulis> oi
[03:09] <darthanubis> 2.6.31-16-generic-pae I don't know why this kernel got installed, but I'd like the plain ole linux-image-server kernel to be used
[03:09] <darthanubis> I installed the server pacakge but it does not seem to have installed that jernel?
[03:09] <darthanubis> could someone point out my error please?
[03:11] <MTecknology> darthanubis: pastebin apt-get search linux-image
[03:12] <darthanubis> k
[03:13] <darthanubis> you mean apt-cache?
[03:13] <MTecknology> use aptitude
[03:14] <darthanubis> http://pastebin.com/d6dab1f42
[03:15] <darthanubis> I don't even see the kernel in the cache?
[03:15] <MTecknology> 21:13 < MTecknology> use aptitude
[03:15] <darthanubis> I see the meta-package but not the lernel
[03:16] <darthanubis> the results are the same of course
[03:16] <MTecknology> my patience is gone - too much going ont
[03:16] <darthanubis> http://pastebin.com/d62dd978b
[03:16] <MTecknology> they are not the same
[03:17] <darthanubis> they are
[03:17] <MTecknology> yup - patience gone
[03:17] <darthanubis> thanks
[03:17] <darthanubis> your first reply was incorrect to start
[03:18] <darthanubis> anyone aboard know what they are talking about with a better attitude?
[03:19] <ScottK> darthanubis: There is no i386 server kernel in 9.10
[03:19] <darthanubis> thank you
[03:19] <ScottK> It's either generic or generc-pae
[03:19] <darthanubis> very much
[03:20] <ScottK> MTecknology: If you don't have the patience to be helpful, it's better to say nothing (yes, I know this is hard).
[03:21] <MTecknology> ScottK: Sorry... I've been really busy and I just wanted offer quick help. I just got ticked when I was greated with "......."
[03:27] <Doonz> hey guys i need some help
[03:27] <Doonz> any vmware experts in here?
[03:28] <darthanubis> !ask
[03:28] <ScottK> Doonz: Your odds are a lot better during the US or European business day.
[03:28] <TrickFinlay2> whats the issue Doonz?
[03:28] <Doonz> well
[03:29] <Doonz> i followed a guide to install
[03:29] <Doonz> it seem to work
[03:29] <Doonz> then when i went to connect to the web admin app nothing happened
[03:29] <Doonz> im just trying to figure out how-to remove everything
[03:29] <Doonz> but im brand new to linux
[03:31] <MTecknology> Doonz: what version did you install?
[03:31] <Doonz> VMware-server-2.0.2-203138.x86_64.tar.gz
[03:31] <MTecknology> and on what version of Ubuntu?
[03:31] <Doonz> 9.10 64bit
[03:31] <MTecknology> I think the only officially supported version of Ubuntu is the last LTS
[03:32] <MTecknology> did you install from command line so you can still give us the output?
[03:33] <Doonz> here let me pastebin
[03:35] <Doonz> http://pastebin.com/m16daa2e
[03:36] <MTecknology> can you pastebin ls -l rm /lib/modules/2.6.31-16-server/misc/ ?
[03:37] <Doonz> http://pastebin.com/m38295471
[03:38] <MTecknology> Doonz: Do 'sudo -s' to becoem root
[03:38] <MTecknology> rm /lib/modules/2.6.31-16-server/misc/vm*
[03:39] <MTecknology> /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[03:39] <MTecknology> Doonz: don't try running extra commands though
[03:40] <ChrisRut> Where can I find ab2 in apt-get? I already did apt-cache search, and couldn't find anything?
[03:40] <Doonz> MTecknology: it tells me to run as super user
[03:41] <MTecknology> Doonz: did you do 'sudo -s' ?
[03:41] <Doonz> ok will do
[03:41] <MTecknology> ChrisRut: what is ab2?
[03:41] <ChrisRut> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/programs/ab.html
[03:41] <ChrisRut> apache benchmarking tool
[03:42] <Doonz> http://pastebin.com/m661b0b25
[03:43] <MTecknology> ChrisRut: I believe it's apache2-utils
[03:43] <ChrisRut> nope... already got that one
[03:43] <MTecknology> Doonz: did you run the rm command?
[03:43] <ChrisRut> err, maybe I need to find it
[03:44] <MTecknology> ChrisRut: can you pastebin 'ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-available/' ?
[03:44] <ChrisRut> http://pastebin.com/m532d6299
[03:45] <ChrisRut> I don't think it's a mod however... it should be it's own tool
[03:45] <ChrisRut> sample use would be ab2 -c1 -n500 http://google.com/index.php
[03:45] <Doonz> MTecknology:  i copy and pasted your command
[03:45] <ChrisRut> Which would hit http://google.com/index.php 500 times
[03:45] <ChrisRut> but it's used for benchmarking webservers, I want to use it on my own server
[03:47] <ChrisRut> got it
[03:47] <MTecknology> Doonz: do this...    rm -r /lib/modules/2.6.31-16-server/misc/   then   /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[03:47] <ChrisRut> it's 'ab' not 'ab2'
[03:47] <ChrisRut> sorry
[03:47] <MTecknology> ChrisRut: did you find it after installing the -utils package?
[03:48] <ChrisRut> no, I just relized it's ab, not ab2, sorry for the mixup, thanks for your help MTecknology
[03:48] <ChrisRut> but to answer your question, yup it is inthe apache2-util
[03:48] <MTecknology> ChrisRut: no - sorry I couldn't help you better
[03:48] <MTecknology> no problem*
[03:48] <ChrisRut> have a good one :-)
[03:49] <Doonz> MTecknology: http://pastebin.com/m73b35d75
[03:49] <MTecknology> Doonz: Yes
[03:50] <MTecknology> Doonz: just follow the step by step instructions now. pastebin the output
[03:51] <Doonz> ok
[03:52] <Doonz> http://pastebin.com/m18daf56f
[03:53] <MTecknology> Doonz: we need to kill those remaining processes
[03:53] <Doonz> o.O
[03:53] <MTecknology> Doonz: top -b | grep -v vmware
[03:54] <MTecknology> Ctrl+C afterit runs once
[03:55] <Doonz> ok done
[03:55] <MTecknology> pastebin
[03:55] <Doonz> ok
[03:56] <MTecknology> and link..
[03:57] <MTecknology> Doonz: and the link
[03:58] <Doonz> bah i cant seem to copy the output
[04:00] <Doonz> ive got 6 or so processes that i see with vmware in them
[04:00] <MTecknology> you see the number...
[04:00] <MTecknology> do kill PID
[04:00] <MTecknology> where PID is the number
[04:00] <MTecknology> after that...
[04:01] <MTecknology> run the top command again and if anything still shows up use kill -9 PID
[04:01] <Doonz> dont see anything else now
[04:02] <MTecknology> run that script again now
[04:02] <Doonz> ok
[04:02] <Doonz> GAH
[04:02] <Doonz> it still says theres crap running
[04:04] <MTecknology> kill the services again...
[04:04] <MTecknology> run the uninstall script
[04:06] <MTecknology> Doonz: then find / -name *vmware*
[04:06] <MTecknology> Doonz: then    find / -name *vmware*
[04:06] <MTecknology> delete anything you don't need
[04:06] <MTecknology> rm -r
[04:07] <MTecknology> Then reboot; try to vmware install again
[04:07] <Doonz> wow found a whole bunch more processes
[04:07] <MTecknology> and good luck
[04:07] <MTecknology> oh
[04:07] <Doonz> used htop to kill them
[04:07] <Doonz> now ill try rerunning that script
[04:07] <MTecknology> good luck
[04:08] <Doonz> ok its going now
[04:08] <MTecknology> :D
[04:08] <Doonz> lets see what happens
[04:09] <MTecknology> gotta love it when there's massive issues
[04:10] <Doonz> hehe
[04:10] <Doonz> YAY thanx MTecknology
[04:11] <MTecknology> Doonz: vmware is a pain... Xen is usually a better choice if your system can handle it. but for small implementations vmware works decent enough
[04:11] <MTecknology> Doonz: for my system I use virtualboce. NP - glad it's working for you.
[04:11] <Doonz> i just wanted it so i can load up ubuntu server on it and learn without hosing my main server
[04:13] <MTecknology> virtualbox would probably have been easier :P
[04:13] <MTecknology> I should have asked that to start
[04:16] <maxagaz> hi
[04:17] <maxagaz> how to do scp many files at the same time, like: scp [foo, bar, *.mp3] user@host:~ ?
[04:17] <maxagaz> what is the correct syntax ?
[04:19] <MTecknology> maxagaz: scp {foo,bar,*mp3}
[04:19] <MTecknology> iirs - that will work if you're using bash
[04:20] <maxagaz> MTecknology, thanks!
[04:20] <MTecknology> np - hope I
[04:20] <MTecknology> 'm right
[04:21] <maxagaz> MTecknology, what about: scp foo bar *.mp3 user@host:~  ?
[04:22] <darthanubis> maxagaz,  or you could shell in with gftp
[04:49] <benc1> I want to use a cron job to send updates to another server with http every 1 minutes
[04:50] <benc1> if the other server is not reachable or slow, is it possible that another job will start before the old one ends?
[04:50] <benc1> do I need to lock the file the job reading the data need to be send?
[04:57] <MTecknology> benc1: a timeout would be a better solution
[04:57] <MTecknology> benc1: but ya, it's possible to launch it multiple times
[05:00] <benc1> MTecknology: how do I make sure the file size won't increase all the time?
[05:00] <benc1> MTecknology: can a job running every minute can hurt the server performance or is it negligible?
[05:01] <ScottK> Depends on the job.
[05:01] <ScottK> The act of cron triggering something won't have a significant impact.
[05:02] <benc1> my cron will read data from a text file and send it using http (python?)
[05:02] <MTecknology> benc1: what kind of data are you trying ot send?
[05:03] <benc1> MTecknology: I run a social network that needs to sync friendships and profile changes with another server
[05:04] <MTecknology> benc1: It sounds like you might be better off trying to use something like sshfs
[05:04] <MTecknology> !sshfs
[05:04] <MTecknology> benc1: then the data just shows up over there
[05:05] <MTecknology> benc1: you could look into also using SQL synchornization across two servers
[05:05] <benc1> looks interesting but I don't think it is usefull in my case
[05:05] <MTecknology> just ideas..
[05:05] <benc1> I'm actually providing a service to social networks
[05:05] <MTecknology> oh
[05:05] <benc1> so I want to keep it easy as possible
[05:05] <benc1> http is great because the user doesn't have to open his server for me
[05:06] <benc1> and we can always use ssl if we want security
[05:06] <benc1> I don't expect large amounts of data but I don't want the social network to crawl if there is a problem with my server (the service)
[05:09] <MTecknology> BLISS ->  /ignore -channels #freenode *
[05:09] <MTecknology> :)
[05:10] <MTecknology> benc1: If there's timestamps in the file... I'd say send it whole each time and let them deal with any overlap
[05:10] <MTecknology> benc1: then like you said; just send it; if it fails you try again in 1min
[05:10] <benc1> ok, thanks
[05:30] <qman__> benc1, if timeouts become an issue, change it to every two or three minutes instead
[05:32] <benc1> maybe instead of a cron job, the remote server can send an http request to the social network server
[05:32] <benc1> the social network can keep the data in a db
[06:10] <XiXaQ> can someone point me to a beginners guide to UEC and creation of guest instances? Or maybe I should say images, I mean the configuration of images from which instances are created.
[06:16] <XiXaQ> how does it differ from cloning a base image using libvirt, for instance?
[09:05] <falstaff|w> Hello, does anyone have an idea why libvirt always creates dnsmasq processes even when i want to configure routed networks? Is it a bug? Route doesnt work proper then...
[10:52] <a_ok> Is it safe to remove all dead symlinks?
[11:14] <lau> hello, how do I know if a server is kvm able ?
[11:14] <lau> I used dmidecode and checked FLAGS VME (Virtual mode extension) on my proc
[11:15] <lau> is there ayny way to determine if the server can be virtualized ?
[11:19] <lau> I used dmidecode and checked FLAGS VME (Virtual mode extension) on my proc but not sure what to conclude
[11:20] <_ruben> lau: trying to load the appropriate kvm module should give enough indication
[11:21] <jiboumans> lau: the kvm homepage has a faq on this: http://www.linux-kvm.org/page/FAQ#How_can_I_tell_if_I_have_Intel_VT_or_AMD-V.3F
[11:21] <_ruben> then again .. "being able to run kvm" and "can be virtualized" are totally different things, the first refers to be being host, the 2nd refers to be being migrated to a guest
[11:24] <a_ok> Is it safe to remove all dead symlinks in Ubuntu?
[11:26] <jiboumans> a_ok: that's tough to say without knowing the underlying software. it *should* be, but hard to guarantee. where are the symlinks coming from?
[11:26] <a_ok> I know symlinks are sometimes made in advance or misused for some other purpose than intended
[11:26] <a_ok> jiboumans: I just searched for all the symlinks on the system, I can however make a list of symlinks that i find suspicous
[11:27] <jiboumans> a_ok: if you're not sure where they are coming from or you haven't made them yourself, i'd be very hesitant to delete things
[11:27] <a_ok> files like /usr/share/locale/??/LC_TIME/coreutils.mo
[11:29] <jiboumans> a_ok: they are likely part of a package. do 'dpks -S' on one of those files
[11:29] <a_ok> jiboumans: that is really annoying I wanted to automate the process. I know all dead symlinks that we make can be delleted
[11:30] <jiboumans> a_ok: you may want to limit it to certain paths then; /usr/local/ is meant for non-managed things usually
[11:31] <a_ok> yeah this was in /usr/share/locale
[11:31] <a_ok> udev makes by far the largest amount of dead links
[11:34] <a_ok> jiboumans: generally I hate dead symlinks and want to get rid of them but if they mess up my system that is worse of course. We customized this server a great deal most crap is comming from Ubuntu's default setup though
[11:39] <soren> People who come into support channels and call the subject matter "crap" or whatever never cease to amaze me.
[11:41] <soren> a_ok: *Noone* in here is obligated to help you. If you want help, it's a good idea to be tactful. Calling something people have spent (and are spending) a /lot/ of time working on "crap" is not going to get you very far.
[11:42] <qman__> I can't forsee broken symlinks serving any purpose, but that's just my personal perspective
[11:42] <qman__> I wouldn't mess with them a production server
[11:42] <a_ok> soren: I did not mean it like that at all, crap in the sence of litter as in dead symlinks unneaded files you know crap
[11:42] <qman__> I'd build a fresh install to play with
[11:43] <soren> a_ok: regardless.
[11:43] <a_ok> soren: I have high respect and regards towards ubuntu and her packages please dont get me wrong
[11:43] <qman__> *I wouldn't mess with them _ON_ a production server
[11:43] <qman__> brain no worky
[11:44] <a_ok> qman__: I know wine uses symlinks that only make sence to wine but are broken to linux
[11:45] <a_ok> qman__: I have found out that the udev stuff is not needed and crap from a previous version (pre 104)
[11:46] <a_ok> the coreutils.mo I don't know
[11:46] <jiboumans> a_ok: what did dpkg -S say?
[11:46] <a_ok> jiboumans: its from coreutils
[11:46] <a_ok> coreutils: /usr/share/locale/af/LC_TIME/coreutils.mo
[11:47] <jiboumans> so throwing it away will cause the package to be incomplete
[11:47] <a_ok> jiboumans: ah i see
[11:48] <jiboumans> a_ok: it seems to me that you have 2 sets of symlinks (regardless if they're useful or not): those added by packages and those added by some running code/users/etc
[11:48] <jiboumans> dpkg -S should at least least let you distinguish that. if they're symlink from ubuntu packages that look unneeded, a low prio bug report may be in order against them
[11:50] <a_ok> jiboumans: all right will do that thanks again I think I can work something out now
[11:50] <jiboumans> a_ok: no problem at all. good luck
[11:53] <a_ok> soren: is crap a bad word to use in general btw? I use it a lot (as you can see from my sentence I also called our own stuff crap)
[12:24] <lau> jiboumans: thx, great link, I egrep '^flags.*(vmx|svm)' /proc/cpuinfo
[12:25] <lau> but got no returns does this mean the hardware is not VT able ?
[12:25] <jiboumans> lau: that's what the FAQ seems to suggest; you can't run kvm on it to serve as a host
[12:28] <lau> jiboumans: i am trying to check the cpu manufacturer but ? Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz
[12:29] <jiboumans> lau: looks like you have an intel cpu ;)
[12:30] <soren> a_ok: I personally don't enjoy seeing it used to refer to something I spend a lot of time working on.
[12:31] <lau> http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/sb/CS-021288.htm
[12:33] <a_ok> soren: yeah I don't like that either unless what I produced is utter crap (well still might not like it but will see the point)
[12:33] <soren> lau: There's probably 50 different kinds of "Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 3.00GHz".
[12:34] <zul> morning
[12:34] <a_ok> lau: yes it mains that your cpu is not VT able unless something in the bios is turned off
[12:34] <a_ok> means*
[12:37] <a_ok> lau: if you are onling running guests and you want performance id suggest you take a look at openvz
[12:37] <jiboumans> morning zul
[12:37] <a_ok> erm i ment only there
[12:39] <zul> hey jiboumans
[12:40] <lau> hi a_ok thx, I would like to test kvm on that specific server (I already use linux-vservers)
[12:40] <lau> I am trying to identify the spec page of my CPU at intel website but can't
[12:40] <soren> lau: Can you put the full /proc/cpuinfo on pastebin?
[12:41] <a_ok> lau: well unless there is a specific option in your bios to enable intel-VT the kvm-module won't load
[12:41] <lau> http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL88S ?
[12:42] <a_ok> lau: you can run the the modified qemu though it will run much slower though at it lacks hardware acceleration
[12:43] <a_ok> lau: I think that one does not have VT
[12:44] <lau> http://pastebin.com/m1f53a496
[12:56] <soren> I can't believe they left out the type identifier from the CPUID string.
[12:56]  * soren wonders what they're smoking over at Intel's.
[12:58] <a_ok2> soren: bet its crap...
[12:59] <soren> I bet you're right.
[13:00] <a_ok2> lau: again I don't see any vmx in there so nojoy
[13:04] <lau> soren: may you please copy/paste the CPUID string you are referencing please ?
[13:35] <smoser> hello all.
[13:37] <jiboumans> morning smoser
[13:38] <soren> smoser: o/
[14:01] <jiboumans> zul: please let us know what the result of the autofs investigation is in the blueprint :)
[14:02] <zul> jiboumans: good point
[14:19] <jiboumans> zul: if you need feedback from mathias on server-lucid-improve-testcases, perhaps putting a feedback request in the blueprint is the easiest way to get his attention
[14:21] <zul> jiboumans: ok will do
[16:19] <nealmcb> hasn't looked like a good day for freenode....
[16:24] <Doonz> hey guys is it possible to roll beck my server from 9.10 to 9.04?
[16:27] <nealmcb> Doonz: I don't think there is an automated process for that.  What's not working for you?
[16:27] <Italian_Plumber1> doonz: the short answer is "no". :(
[16:28] <nealmcb> jiboumans: Howdy and welcome!
[16:34] <Doonz> vmware :(
[18:15] <TeTeT> kirkland: you know if live instance migration will eventually become available in UEC?
[18:20] <kirkland> TeTeT: it is not a target for 10.04
[18:20] <kirkland> TeTeT: though the building blocks (kvm, libvirt) should work by then
[18:21] <jiboumans> nealmcb: thanks for the warm welcome :)
[18:21] <TeTeT> kirkland: thanks, other question: how to make the cluster controller HA? any recommendations?
[18:22] <nealmcb> jiboumans: glad to have you on board.  What time zones do you frequent?
[18:23] <jiboumans> nealmcb: i tend to hop on airplanes, but mostly CET
[18:23] <kirkland> TeTeT: I don't about that one, at this point
[18:24] <nealmcb> jiboumans: still in the Poznań Area?
[18:25] <TeTeT> kirkland: I get this asked in about every class, how critical the CLC and CC are and how to make them redundant, so it might be to late for 10.04, but should be considered sometime in the future
[18:25] <kirkland> TeTeT: yeah, please file a Wishlist bug on that
[18:25] <kirkland> TeTeT: the Eucalyptus guys might have some suggestions
[18:26] <TeTeT> kirkland: ok, thanks
[18:27] <TeTeT> kirkland: a bug or rather a question?
[18:29] <TeTeT> kirkland: filed as bug 497087, can be converted to a question if need be
[18:43] <SJr|nx> I install Ubuntu Server on an Intel Xeon Based Mac, directly, and the system doesn't boot. I looked around and it turns out I need reFit installed, but it's a Mac OS X image, and I wiped Mac OS X
[18:45] <jiboumans> damn all these netsplits
[19:11] <zul> gah
[19:20] <marks256> how would i go about making my own DDNS server? Something similar to Dyndns
[19:51] <Doonz> http://pastebin.com/d4d1758b0 <-- anyone know what that error is when i try to make libtorrent-0.12.2
[20:41] <ruben23> hi, how do set some application to automatically
[20:41] <ruben23> start
[20:42] <ruben23> on reboot of ubuntu server
[20:43] <ruben23> anyone have idea...?
[20:46] <ruben23> hi
[20:53] <msantos> ruben23, create a script to start your application in /etc/init.d or add it's path to /etc/rc.local (make sure it runs in the background)
[21:06] <Italian_Plumber1> anybody here run SugarCRM?
[21:07] <Italian_Plumber1> I have an installation of SugarCRM that's very slow.  Granted it's on an older box (Pentium III 450 / 256MB RAM), but the box is otherwise quite capable in most server type applications.
[21:08] <Italian_Plumber1> wondering if there's any tweaking I can do to get it to move a little faster.
[21:08] <Italian_Plumber1> pages take 8-10 seconds to load.
[21:09] <Italian_Plumber1> the installation's going to used by only one person, so it's not going to see a lot of load.
[21:18] <X-M4-X> hello anyone here
[21:22] <X-M4-X> well i need to know why im getting temporary errors with us.archive.com when i type apt-get install update or anything with that command
[21:24] <bogeyd6> Italian_Plumber have you solved the sugarcrm slownedd?
[21:24] <Italian_Plumber> no I just came back I had to log off... did someone say something?
[21:25] <bogeyd6> i was thinking when i got back on and checked the scroll about the server specs and ram you mentioned
[21:25] <bogeyd6> you need to check a top in the cli while accessing the pages and see if your CPU is hitting 100%
[21:26] <Italian_Plumber> oh yes it sure is
[21:27] <bogeyd6> using mysql or flat files?
[21:27] <X-M4-X> so is there anyone here having "Temporary failure"'s with security.ubuntu.com and us.archive.ubuntu.com
[21:27] <Italian_Plumber> mysql...
[21:27] <Italian_Plumber> actually it seems to be a little better now -- maybe 50% when a page is loading
[21:28] <bogeyd6> its only temporary
[21:28] <bogeyd6> Italian_Plumber what does the out of "free" show?
[21:28] <Mike_lifeguard> I'm trying to get my router to send logs to syslog on my server - how can I get those lines into their own file (ie log router stuff to /var/log/router.log)?
[21:29] <Italian_Plumber> http://pastebin.com/m768083e
[21:29] <Mike_lifeguard> huh, it seems nothing is being logged anyways, so maybe that should be fixed first :\
[21:30] <bogeyd6> well you arent going into SWAP so that is a good sign
[21:30] <bogeyd6> Mike_lifeguard using syslog-ng ?
[21:30] <Italian_Plumber> yeah well this box isn't doing anything else.
[21:30] <Mike_lifeguard> bogeyd6: rsyslogd
[21:30] <Doonz> Hey is anyone using the new vmware server 2.02 on 9.10?
[21:31] <bogeyd6> the only thing i can say is cpu is everything in a php/mysql/apache thing you got going there, so check out http://www.sugarcrm.com/wiki/index.php?title=Performance_Tweaks_for_Large_Systems and pray they work for small systems that might as well be large systems
[21:31] <Italian_Plumber> doonz: I stuck with 1.07 ...
[21:31] <bogeyd6> Mike_lifeguard i only know how to use syslog-ng
[21:31] <Doonz> man i have nothing but greif
[21:32] <Italian_Plumber> Thing is, I have a custom-written PHP/mysql/apache application that I develop on there... and it's just fine.
[21:32] <Italian_Plumber> I'll check that page, though, thans
[21:32] <Doonz> i just wanted to have it installed so i could mess qround on different linux distros so i wasnt constantly redoing my main server
[21:33] <Doonz> but now i dont know howto remove vmware server cleanly
[21:33] <Doonz> so now im going to have to reformat im guessing
[21:33] <bogeyd6> doonz using the vmware .deb package?
[21:33] <Doonz> there isnt one
[21:34] <bogeyd6> Doonz vmware-uninstall.pl
[21:35] <bogeyd6> i forgetted
[21:35] <bogeyd6> sudo vmware-uninstall.pl
[21:35] <Doonz> man i cant even get it to stop
[21:35] <Doonz> this is awesome
[21:35] <Doonz> ffs
[21:35] <bogeyd6> wait wait
[21:36] <bogeyd6> stop panicking
[21:36] <Doonz> day 5
[21:36] <bogeyd6> just run /etc/init.d/vmware stop
[21:36] <bogeyd6> it will complain about machines running
[21:36] <bogeyd6> rite?
[21:36] <Doonz> past the point of panicking now just pissed off
[21:36] <Doonz> bogeyd6: yes
[21:36] <X-M4-X> Guess ill just work on the mail server.
[21:36] <bogeyd6> ok then
[21:36] <Doonz> let me pastebin
[21:37] <bogeyd6> so login to the interface and kill the machines hard
[21:37] <bogeyd6> *press stop power button several times until machine stops*
[21:37] <Doonz> bogeyd6: cant log into the web thingy
[21:37] <Doonz> i used to could
[21:37] <Doonz> now it doesnt work
[21:37] <Doonz> :(
[21:37] <Doonz> http://pastebin.com/daca4a35
[21:38] <bogeyd6> update-rc.d -f vmware remove
[21:38] <bogeyd6> restart machine
[21:38] <bogeyd6> then run the uninstall
[21:38] <Doonz> ok
[21:38] <bogeyd6> i keep forgetted sudo!!
[21:39] <Doonz> let me reboot
[21:41] <Doonz> back
[21:41] <Doonz> what was the uninstall command?
[21:41] <bogeyd6> sudo vmware-uninstall.pl
[21:42] <Doonz> k that seems to have worked
[21:43] <bogeyd6> yay
[21:43] <bogeyd6> now more bawwing about having to reformat!
[21:44] <Doonz> any recommendations for a virtual machine server?
[21:45] <bogeyd6> vmware server 2 :P
[21:45] <Doonz> *sigh*
[21:45] <bogeyd6> it really is the best
[21:45] <bogeyd6> what was your specific issue?
[21:46] <Doonz> the web management tool would screw up
[21:46] <Doonz> and i couldnt do anything
[21:46] <bogeyd6> i would have tried to fix it before i ditched it
[21:46] <Doonz> im getting awesome at installing it
[21:46] <Doonz> you want to help me sort the problem out?
[21:47] <bogeyd6> !xen
[21:47] <bogeyd6> thats the supported one
[21:47] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there a mailing list for server stuff? (as opposed to ubuntu-users)
[21:48] <bogeyd6> Mike_lifeguard http://lmgtfy.com/?q=ubuntu+server+mailing+list
[21:48] <Doonz> uh the guide for xen wasnt written for my distro
[21:49] <Doonz> id rather use vmware
[21:49] <Doonz> bogeyd6: can you try to help me fix whats broken?
[21:49] <bogeyd6> which server version are you using, first?
[21:50] <Doonz> 9.10 64bit
[21:50] <bogeyd6> argh
[21:50] <bogeyd6> no wonder you are having issues
[21:50] <bogeyd6> !lts
[21:50] <Doonz> :(
[21:50] <bogeyd6> !hardy @ doonz
[21:50] <bogeyd6> !hardy | doonz
[21:51] <Doonz> so i shoulda installed 8.04
[21:51] <bogeyd6> yes
[21:51] <Doonz> so now i should reformat
[21:51] <bogeyd6> no
[21:51] <X-M4-X> i want to uninstall mysql anyone know the code?
[21:51] <bogeyd6> did you put /home/ on a separate partition?
[21:51] <bogeyd6> X-M4-X apt-get remove mysql
[21:51] <X-M4-X> Thank you
[21:51] <Mike_lifeguard> sudo apt-get remove mysql-server
[21:51] <bogeyd6> Doonz did you put /home/ on its own partition?
[21:52] <Doonz> bogeyd6: no. my home directory resides on the main partition
[21:52] <bogeyd6> !#$!@
[21:52] <Doonz> i have a raid card with 2xs raid 5 arrays that are binded to directories within my home directory
[21:53] <bogeyd6> ok well rule #1 is always set away your /home/ and your /var partitions so if you need to change or reinstall you dont lose that stuff
[21:53] <Doonz> i could lose home and not cry
[21:53] <Doonz> same with var
[21:53] <Doonz> but i have no monitor or keyboard hooked up to this server so installing was a pita
[21:54] <bogeyd6> well if you are comfortable with all that you need to go to LTS for the server
[21:54] <Doonz> bogeyd6: is there a way to do it through my current shell?
[21:54] <bogeyd6> dunno, but i do recall suse has a VNC setup so I would assume ubuntu does to
[21:54] <Doonz> dont have a gui installed on this thing
[21:57] <bogeyd6> Doonz i dont know how to downgrade from the cli
[22:10] <smoser> good night all
[22:23] <X-M4-X> ok this mysql is pissing me off
[22:23] <Doonz> is there a way to downgrade through the cli from 9.10 to 8.04?
[22:28] <ScottK> Doonz: No.
[22:28] <Doonz> really
[22:28] <ScottK> Or rather not one that's not way harder than reinstalling.
[22:28] <Doonz> there one Im a idiot patch availible?
[22:29] <X-M4-X> lol i wish there was for mysql, i configured and configured yet it just wont work
[22:29] <bogeyd6> X-M4-X what exactly is the problem
[22:30] <bogeyd6> Doonz you could try the XEN route
[22:30] <bogeyd6> !xen | Doonz
[22:31] <Doonz> yeah maybe i should just reinstall and get onto a lts supported system
[22:31] <Doonz> :/
[22:31] <X-M4-X> Alright i have installed mysql-server and configured(i think) the root password.  installed phpmyadmin , i have everything configured i type mysql into the terminal and get "Error: access denied for root@localhost using password = 'NO'
[22:31] <soren> bogeyd6: What's difference is that going to make?
[22:31] <bogeyd6> !qemu | doonz
[22:31] <soren> X-M4-X: Sure. You're not using a password.
[22:31] <soren> X-M4-X: "mysql -u root -p"
[22:31] <bogeyd6> X-M4-X you need to set the -p option
[22:32] <ScottK> Doonz: Or wait 4 months and upgrade to one.
[22:32] <Doonz> hm
[22:32] <bogeyd6> soren i was helping him fix his vmware server 2 problem, and the only way he is gonna get it working right is to switch to LTS and install it. So he is looking for a downgrade option, which there isnt, or another vm server
[22:32] <X-M4-X> When i do the -p option and enter the password it gives me error just no is yes, even when i hit enter it says error again
[22:33] <soren> X-M4-X: Wrong password, then.
[22:34] <X-M4-X> where the heck is the config file with the password than because ive tried every password i have ever used
[22:34] <X-M4-X> i bet i have not even set one that would be funny
[22:35] <bogeyd6> X-M4-X did you ever run mysql_secure_installation
[22:36] <X-M4-X> ok i think we hit some light here
[22:36] <X-M4-X> i run - errors all up and down
[22:37] <bogeyd6> X-M4-X you are too all over the map, slow the sh*t down and go step by step with us
[22:38] <X-M4-X> ok i ran it got errors untill i finally got the root password from my xampp installation (old one)
[22:39] <Skaag> Is there a graphical tool for managing KVM Instances?
[22:40] <bogeyd6> virt-manager
[22:40] <X-M4-X> ok ill be right back going to take my meds so im not all over the place
[22:40] <Skaag> thanks
[22:41] <SockPants> hi all
[22:41] <bogeyd6> hi
[22:42] <SockPants> is there a utility/command to get an overview of system specs?
[22:42] <bogeyd6> sudo lshw
[22:43] <X-M4-X> Woah!
[22:43] <bogeyd6> lshw can be pretty b a
[22:44] <SockPants> bogeyd6: nice, thanks
[22:48] <X-M4-X> My problem was i forgot the password i set last month
[23:04] <kirkland> kees: i need to add /usr/sbin/ietadm (iscsi target) to /etc/eucalyptus/wrappers.conf ... do I need any sort of "approval" from you to do so?
[23:08] <kees> kirkland: nah.  just follow conventions and try to make sure it's limited in scope.
[23:08] <kirkland> kees: okay
[23:08] <kees> i.e. it's not possible to make ietadm overwrite random files, etc.
[23:09] <kirkland> kees: k
[23:10] <X-M4-X> what command gets remote files NOT stored as a package?
[23:24] <Doonz> Hey how can i just download the *.iso file from ubuntu
[23:25] <Doonz> need to do it through wget
[23:28] <jcastro> http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ubuntu-9.10-server-amd64.iso
[23:28] <jcastro> of whatever?
[23:28] <jcastro> Doonz: ^^
[23:28] <Doonz> ok
[23:29] <Doonz> nope dunt work
[23:30] <Doonz> got it
[23:30] <Doonz> http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntu-8.04.3-server-amd64.iso
[23:33] <ding__> any word on FCoE support?
[23:45] <X-M4-X> anyone know of a good free hosting control panel - so i can finish this crap
[23:46] <poningru> cpanel?
[23:46] <X-M4-X> i said free
[23:48] <arctic_import> Okay all I'm having a heck of a time getting any of my Ubuntu 9.10 server to use LDAP for nss.  Is it broken?  Can someone point me to a doc.  All my other non-ubuntu machines work fine.
[23:52] <resno> whats the best way to backup a server? raid, etc?
[23:53] <alex88> resno: raid and also external and offline backup
[23:53] <resno> this will be a house server. is raid the most cost effective method?
[23:54] <sub> RAID is more about fault tolerance and less about backup/disaster recovery
[23:54] <alex88> yeah, but it protects from hard disk failure, not virus etc
[23:54] <sub> it's a good thing to have, however
[23:54] <sub> for a home server? i wouldn't get a fancy RAID card or anything but software RAID, maybe
[23:54] <sub> hard drives are relatively low-cost these days
[23:55] <alex88> yes, a simple raid that now can be done by almost all motherboards will be fine
[23:57] <resno> This is sorta weird question. The internet connection is in an island type place, can server connect wirelessly?
[23:58] <alex88> sure...why not?
[23:59] <alex88> you have to make it connecting or as ap?