[00:02] phoenixz: integrating often-fast-moving upstream code into a cohesive user experience is non-trivial [00:02] phoenixz: in your case, linux moves *very* quickly [00:12] phoenixz: welcome to the world of linux, we do it because we like ripping the OS apart & fixing it :) === TuxPurple_ is now known as TuxPurple === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [01:18] am I doing something wrong? I am trying to copy text from an OOo doc to another OOo doc, a terminal and Kate and failing. I am highlighting the text, using ctrl-c then ctrl-v. I've also tried to use the copy/paste menu options with no better success [01:23] allo [01:23] comment je fais pour aller sur undernet? [01:36] is there any downloag manager for kubuntu like the dowmload manager for windows which boosts the down load speed by 300 % [01:37] cheeko: The "DownThemAll" firefox addon works on Linux [01:38] i have it it seems to be sluggish [01:39] any body here [01:41] how do i know my root password? during installation i wasn't asked to create one and user management requires it [01:42] coolalee your account password [01:42] !root [01:42] Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo [01:42] i_is_broke: Or in graphical KDE, kdesudo ... [01:43] genii, not me, i know. [01:46] ok i get it when it comes to console, but still, when i'm being asked for root password in user management, what i'm supposed to do? [01:46] its the same [01:59] is it even possible to make a Kubuntu install w/o making a root password on install (answering ? from above)... [01:59] coolalee: I think you have to have made a PW on original install for your user acct. it's the same one. [02:03] in ktorrent the torrent which is the top most gets to be donloaded but in normal bit torrent i f ther are 3 torrents to be dloaded all of them work simultaneously [02:07] is there a kde nightly ppa? [02:10] i have ktorrent as my torrent clent whaen ever i put 2-3 torrents to gether to download only the first one starts to download the rest two of them sit idle is ther any other better torrent clent which downloads all torrents simultaneously [02:12] you can configure ktorrent to download more torrents simultaneously [02:16] hagabaka: how do i configure that [02:17] cheeko: Queue Manager - Maximum Downloads [02:19] Any word on the no compisition thing? [02:20] hagabaka: If anyone knows about some kde-nightly repo, it would likely be in #kubuntu-devel === bobesponja is now known as patcito [03:05] what command can i use to show the location of a command? [03:05] or application [03:06] ? [03:12] egoflux: locate filename-goes-here [03:25] what is the purpose of "network manager"? [03:26] One would guess - to help manage your network connections === sean is now known as Guest19298 [03:27] I have just one connection, and it's been just wasting space there [03:28] when the connection isn't working, I can't use it to fix it either, but I can use /etc/init.d/networking restart === orion is now known as Guest27292 [03:30] can someone tell me the last "stable" kubuntu version? [03:30] 9.10 karmic koala [03:30] just like ubuntu [03:31] the last lts was 8.04 [03:32] next one is 10.4 [03:32] but those arent ethe only stable releases [03:32] no lts [03:32] i was just saying === Guest27292 is now known as BlueX [03:34] is it possible to run programs from an external hard drive? [03:34] i_is_broke: how old is 8.04? [03:34] so its superior to 9.04? [03:35] well i wouldnt say superior thats for sure, its getting quite outdated. [03:35] because I have now tried kubuntu 9.10 and sabayon 5.1 with kde 4.3 etc and they are both buggy and unstable [03:36] BlueX, some people are staying with 9.04 cause of compatibility issues with 9.10 [03:38] that's kde 4.2? [03:38] im not sure i wasnt on that one very long it didnt like my video so i had to update. [03:39] quien habla espanol ? [03:39] !es [03:39] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [03:39] BlueX: yes 9.04 is 4.2 [03:39] maco, ty i couldnt remember. [03:40] was the first kde release i actually liked :P [03:40] lol [03:40] i would of probably stayed with it, if it wasnt for the sluggish intel video. [03:41] heh i upgraded to karmic as soon as i got home from UDS [03:41] lol [03:41] and now that my good laptop is back from the shop, it should be getting lucid tomorrow [03:41] yeah i was on karmic, about the day after the first alpha release. [03:41] this one'll probably stay karmic just because im too lazy to do two upgrades this week [03:42] "dont run it on a production machine"? pssshhhhhh i ran feisty alpha2 on the only machine i had. worked fine! [03:42] :P [03:42] * maco wreckless [03:42] been running lucid on test box, since the day the lucid change were released. just not on this one..i dont want to lose all my stuff again if it crashes. [03:43] yeah been there done that. [03:43] uh [03:43] I really wouldn't run lucid until way after the kernel has stabilised for a couple more point releases [03:43] * chuckf_ wonders if there's a better way to control networking in Kubuntu outside of NM [03:43] * chuckf_ wonders if it might just be the ath9k driver causing problems [03:44] dtchen, thats why i put mine on a test box.. [03:45] chuckf_: Some people like to use wicd [03:45] chuckf_: have you tried wicd [03:46] no wicd yet [03:46] but I will investigate it [03:52] is it possible to run programs from an external hard drive? === nick is now known as lazydragoon [03:53] yea its possible, needs executable access === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates [03:55] how do i set that up? [04:07] can I install Synaptic? this Kpackagekit sucks [04:07] as far as I know [04:12] and what should I install to do a proper crash report. it says i don't have something installed to be a proper one when i get the report but doesn't tell me what to install [04:21] genii: rstob911: thanks for the tip on wicd. I'm using it now and we'll see how it goes [04:22] Can anyoen think of some fun eyecandy that isnt preinstaled with kubuntu? [04:22] my wireless sometimes i have to restart my cable modem about once a week [04:22] using 4.4b1 and now I get Failed to activate desktop effects using the given configuration options. Settings will be reverted to their previous values. [04:23] rstob911: ath9k? [04:23] yes [04:23] how do i use the kill comand to terinate an app if kill or kill -9 dosent work? Im a bit new to linux.. [04:24] yeah, still being developed but its really a kernel issue..kubuntu 9.10 uses kernel .31 which drops connections with a number of cards especially atheros [04:24] well that sucks [04:24] kubuntu/ubuntu is the only OS that works decetn with my card.. windows drops my conections 20~ tiems a day. [04:24] r00t: use k menu, system, system monitor [04:25] to kill apps [04:25] yea it is the kernel at this point but seems like they are addressing this issue in lucid [04:25] lucid *should* be much better yes [04:25] BlueX: there isnt a CLI option? [04:25] if kill isn't working I'm not sure how better to us it [04:26] Thank you. [04:26] although sometimes things in kubuntu 9.10 won't kill simply because of bugs [04:27] isnt here chat like gtalk in kubuntu [04:27] what network does gtalk use? [04:27] I haven't heard of it [04:28] chat for windows [04:28] chat client [04:28] so any chat client in kubuntu [04:28] Huh... system monitor isnt working either. i mean i coudl reboot but im going to keep trying to figure out a way aorund it [04:29] hmm, log off and log in [04:29] shinchan, you don't instant messaging, you mean chat rooms yes? [04:30] i have heard of empathy but cant install it [04:30] dont know why [04:31] i have kopete [04:32] oh, use pidgin [04:32] kopete wont work [04:32] ? [04:32] sure it will === nick is now known as lazydragoon [04:53] whats up guys [04:53] Im on my kubuntu laptop. I have a kubuntu desktop here running samba. I know samba is working cuase I can hit it on my mac laptop, yet my kubuntu laptop cant see it. It previously worked, but now it doesnt. Any idea on what I could try? I also ran smbtree in terminal and nothing came back [04:53] the only thing that came back was the name of my kubuntu laptop, which I expected cause I have samba installed on this laptop [04:55] Roasted_: I'm having the same issue - let me know if you get it resolved. [04:55] dequire: sure thing man [04:55] it sucks cause I know it works fine [04:55] gota love samba though [04:56] Roasted_: In fact, Dolphin crashes when I try to connect from my laptop to my desktop, which apparently is a known bug... [04:56] what version of kde are you running [04:56] 4.3.2 on desktop and 4.2.4 on lappy [04:56] *4.3.4 [04:56] which one crashes [04:56] oh [04:56] 4.3 is solid as a rock, imo [04:56] hard to believe theres a known bug like that [04:56] * 4.3.2 on desktop and 4.3.4 on lappy [04:56] what if you try konq? [04:56] lol === nick is now known as lazydragoon [04:57] i will next. I'm really just trying to use Samba to play media on my laptop that is stored on the desktop [04:57] what if you set up NFS since youre going linux to linux? [04:58] most people say use NFS if at all possible, unless you NEED other OS support, only then does samba make more sense [04:58] Roasted_: I did that before and it worked. I just didn't like dropping to the CLI after every re-boot to connect. [04:58] Roasted_: though I could write a script I'm sure [04:58] cant you throw an NFS entry in fstab? [04:59] Roasted_: probably. didn't get that far since i installed Kubuntu 9.10 on the laptop. BTW I can get you the bug # if ya want. [05:00] I wonder if its something in regard to Kubuntu 9.10 [05:00] I wonder if Kubuntu 9.04 would yield better results [05:00] 9.10 had quite a few problems :( [05:01] but even still youre on newer versions of KDE.... [05:03] yea not sure. i don't appear to have the problem with Linux Mint KDE (9.04) but that's based on Ubuntu I believe [05:03] kubuntu is ubuntu [05:03] its just with kde [05:03] I dont see how itd be any different from mint to kubuntu [05:03] what Im questioning is 9.04 vs 9.10 [05:03] Roasted_: right but I thought it might be worth differentiating for this one point [05:04] yeah, I understand [05:04] but the thing is, its the same underlying OS [05:04] kubuntu and ubuntu [05:04] yea that seems to be the likelyhood right there [05:04] just a different window manager [05:04] mint, tho based on *buntu, would be more different than kubuntu vs ubuntu [05:04] mint is a different OS all together despite being "related" [05:05] Roasted_: yepp. but i think you're likely right on the 9.04/9.10 being the likely problem here [05:05] its just a guess bro, but one I'd put a few dollars down on [05:06] Id be tempted to try a live cd of kubuntu 904 and see how it goes [05:06] I'm with ya. anyways simple networking lin - lin still needs refined. [05:06] it is refined, but the thing is, if youre going lin lin, who cares about samba? [05:06] samba was made for linux to windows networking, thats where it shines [05:06] lin lin with samba is iffy simply due to the fact most poeple use nfs for lin to lin [05:07] not saying its right, just saying how I view it [05:07] Roasted_: right, but many people use it because it's perceived to be "easier" [05:07] what easier? [05:07] samba? [05:07] everyone I talk to says that NFS is easier than samba [05:07] Roasted_: for some people, or it's all they know. [05:07] I havent used NFS so I cant offer an opinion [05:07] but everyone I talk to said to go with NFS, but I use mac and windows at home too, so I use samba [05:08] yea try it. it's a lot of fun *rolls eyes* lol [05:08] I heard its easy, but I have no clue [05:08] samba can be a royal pain in the rear [05:08] but theres a lot you can do with samba [05:08] thats one reason its confusing, is all of the different features and ways you can authenticate etc [05:08] PITA [05:08] but with trial and error I got my system working [05:09] yepp. my first excursion into Samba was years ago with my 1st Mythbuntu box [05:09] had a win server. got it to work but TBH it was all copy / paste CLI stuff so I learned nothing [05:10] and a lot of trial and error [05:10] yeah [05:10] I use samba with my windows boxes, they back up to it at 3 am every day [05:10] plus I have my home directory shared with samba [05:11] the thing about Samba and NFS that hangs people up IMO is the Client / Server nomenclature and Win ppl think in simple Peer-to-Peer [05:11] that's cool! I'm not 100% windows-free, though I do keep an XP disk and license if needed [05:12] *now [05:12] I dual boot, but only for games [05:12] other than that Im windows free. Its family members who run xp yet [05:12] though theyre asking me to run their rigs dual boot too, that may be my next project [05:14] heh.. incrimentalism is a good thing. then one day it will just hit them... :) [05:14] I need help with a KDE program [05:14] please [05:14] i agree BTW 4.3 is stable and 4.4+ is just going to blow anything out there away [05:15] hi dsilvers - what is it? [05:15] k3b, I'm trying to burn a video DVD that will work on a regular DVD player [05:16] I'm currently running Ubuntu 9.04 if that helps [05:17] dsilvers: what is the issue? burned DVD's won't play on a regular one? [05:17] hi, i cant get my mic to work. i have tried to oppen up all channels in alsamixer and tried to change my input source with no luck. when i try to start pavumeter --record i just get "connection refused" my sound card is alc889a hd audio. (gigabyte ma790x-ud4 mother board) does anyone know how i can fix my problem ? [05:18] dequire: it won't even burn [05:18] dsilvers: did you try burning at the lowest speed possible (i.e. 4x)? [05:19] the program was recommended to me on another channel and I've never used it before [05:21] dequire [05:21] dequire: I'm not sure how to set that [05:21] dsilvers: not sure as I've never had a problem with it. But I have read elsewhere that if you are having problems, to set the bern speed as low as you can [05:23] dsilvers: when the "burn" dialogue box comes up there is a dropdown box to set the burn speed [05:24] dequire: I found it but no dice [05:24] wee_: I don't know as I have not tried a mic yet [05:25] dsilvers: What kind of media is it? [05:25] its strange, bc i can hear my mic through my headset. but for some reason it dosent seem that my input work on the system [05:25] dequire: MP4 videos [05:27] dsilvers: If you know the media file is good, and the blank DVD is good, I would ask on the #k3b channel. [05:28] dsilvers: I've had tons of probs personally with Brasero, but never had any with K3b [05:30] dequire: ok, these videos are hi-def does that make a difference? I'd really call myself an intermediate Linux user but I've never burned DVD's in it [05:31] what the? [05:31] dsilvers: if the mpg4 is encrypted it won't copy [05:33] dequire: I just pulled it off of my Flip, do you know how I unencrypt them? also I have a message that files will only be accessible it mounted with UDF [05:34] dsilvers: sorry I'm not sure. try this guide though it might help: [05:34] dsilvers: http://www.my-guides.net/en/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=77 [05:36] dequire: thanks for your help, my friend who normally helps me is not talking to me [05:36] dsilvers: no problem [05:39] is there anyone that can hlp me with my mic problem ? [05:51] Hey, I compiled my own kernal and wish to delete it. Is there anythign specially i should do ? or just delete the /boot/vmlinux... image? === carlos is now known as Guest17945 [05:51] wer [05:52] ?? [05:57] anybody? [06:07] Hi all [06:08] yo phillip :) === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [06:25] guys needed a lil help [06:26] something happened after karmic update... getting only console login [06:27] ved: !paste the contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf [06:27] !paste [06:27] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic [06:28] sorry i formatted d drive.. running live now [06:29] ved: Ohh... So you're just gonna reinstall, I take it? [06:29] ved: Or was there a question I missed? :) [06:29] yea.. but i dont want to run into this again [06:30] any suggestions to avoid it? === sean is now known as Guest23341 [06:30] ved: Kinda tough to troubleshoot without any of the information that would've been found on the formatted drive. ;) [06:31] ved: Running "sudo mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bkup" will reset X to its default settings, which should allow you to get back to the GUI... [06:32] ved: Had you installed a proprietary driver for your graphics card via an installer downloaded from the card manufacturer's website, instead of doing so via Kickoff -> Applications -> System -> Hardware Drivers? [06:33] yea i shall do that if i come accross d prob again [06:33] no i'd enabled it in hardware drivers... but this problem occurred when i updates xorg n related display stuff [06:34] ved: Using any third-party repositories? [06:34] no all ubuntu... [06:35] Odd... Sorry, not sure what to tell ya'. : \ [06:36] ved: What driver were you using? [06:39] nvidia 185... i guess not many people have had this prob... [06:39] tried googling it.. not much there... anyway thanks contrast :) [06:40] ved: What card do you have? [06:42] nvidia 6100 n series,, built in gigabyte motherboard [06:43] ved: Do you know if that's supported by the 190 driver? [06:44] yea it is actually... but i didnt know how to install from the tarball... is it there in d repos? [06:45] ved: Well, it's in a PPA, which I wouldn't recommend enabling if you're having issues, but... [06:46] yea i'll try reinstalling kubu... i hope it stays stable this time.. [06:47] ved: You might download the drivers from here - https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=karmic - and just keep them around to fall back on in case the 185 driver starts acting up again. [06:48] ved: You'll basically just want to download every .deb file for your architecture that has "nvidia" and "190" in its name, except those ending in -dev, and if the need arises, run "sudo dpkg -i || sudo apt-get install -f" [06:51] I've been using the 190 driver for ~3 months now with no issue with my 9800GT, so that's worth a shot, at least, if worse comes to worst. [06:52] o then i wil surely try it... [06:54] Good luck. [06:54] does anyone else get the problem that plasma-desktop does not start when you login to KDE? [06:55] hagabaka: Yup. I presume you've added some Internet-related plasmoids and this is occuring when you don't have an active Internet connection? [06:56] no, I'm always connected to internet [06:56] but let me try removing some plasmoids [06:57] hagabaka: Wired or wireless? [06:57] wired [06:57] o_O [06:57] and it happens when I just log off and back too [06:58] That's new to me then. Sorry. [06:58] no problem [06:58] hagabaka: You might try hitting Alt+F2 -> konsole, then running "killall -9 plasma-desktop" followed by "plasma-desktop &" to see if that yields any useful output. === kb is now known as Guest3854 [07:00] As beautiful as Plasma is in theory, it breaks my heart how fragile it is in practice lately. : \ [07:02] hagabaka: If removing the suspected plasmoids doesn't work, you can always try running "mv ~/.kde/share/config/plasm* ~/.kde/share/apps/plasm* ~" - this will obviously reset Plasma to the defaults though. === ubuntu is now known as LitGaz-M [07:10] Hey all - I forget, how do I tell if I have 3D acceleration working? [07:11] I installed 9.10 and it ran great, but then I tinkered with a few things and installed kubuntu-desktop, and kde runs really slow, I'm pretty sure I broke 3D accel. [07:11] But I don't remember how to check. [07:11] Striking7: Alt+F2 -> "glxgears" I *think.* Been a while since I needed to do that. [07:12] contrast - HAha, I'm in the same boat. I haven't had to mess much with 3D support since like... 2006 [07:12] It's tended to work since then. [07:12] I thought of glxgears too. [07:12] That's not exactly the "proper" way - you kinda have to eyeball it to tell. I know there's a command that'll tell you in concrete terms, but I forget. [07:13] Problem is it's been so long since I've seen it run I don't know if it runs ok because CPUs have gotten faster or if it runs ok because I have proper 3D [07:13] I tried running glxinfo, but I forgot what to look for in there. [07:14] "direct rendering" maybe? [07:14] I grepped for drm, dri, etc and they didn't show up [07:14] I'll try grepping for "direct" - good call contrast [07:15] Oooh! [07:15] Thanks contrast. [07:15] direct rendering: Yes. [07:15] Striking7: They're not showing up here either, and I know it's working here. :) [07:15] Bummer being that means I don't know how to make KDE not be super slow. [07:15] I don't think it's actually taking advantage of the hardware. [07:15] Striking7: KDE is kinda vague. The window manager, desktop effects, plasma..? [07:16] contrast: totally, I understand. I just installed kubuntu-desktop and logged in - so pretty much everything. The window manager itself is having issues because resizing windows is sluggish [07:16] So kwin has to be partially to blame at least. [07:16] Striking7: ATI? [07:16] Maybe using compiz instead would help [07:17] Nope -nvidia. [07:17] Geforce 8600GT [07:17] hrmm... [07:17] Yeah, really. [07:17] Kind of puzzling. [07:17] So everything was fine under GNOME? [07:17] I'd like to give KDE a shot "as is", pre-configured so I know if there are bugs it's not my own fiddling. [07:18] Yeah, everything was ok under Gnome [07:18] BUT - it may not be now [07:18] (i.e., Compiz running acceptably well, etc.) [07:18] I tinkered with a bunch of stuff. [07:18] ... while drinking. [07:18] :-) [07:18] lol [07:18] Never a good idea. :P [07:18] Haha. Agreed. [07:18] So yeah, I haven't tested if Gnome runs acceptibly. [07:18] Let's make sure KDE's actually using OpenGL... [07:18] But at least I know it isn't broken 3D support. [07:19] Ooh, if you know how to do that, sweet. [07:19] Striking7: Alt+F2 -> Desktop Effects -> Advanced tab [07:19] Striking7: What do you see for Compositing type? [07:19] Man the alt+f2 looks a lot nicer in kde4... [07:20] Bah! it says OpenGL for compositing type [07:20] And OpenGL mode? [07:20] Texture from pixmap [07:20] : \ [07:20] Striking7: Try running "compiz --replace" [07:21] Sorry, brb - chicken just got done. 3 mins [07:21] np === TuxPurple_ is now known as TuxPurple [07:23] contrast: I found out from ~/.xsession-error that the problem was the my ~/.config/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop had no Exec entry. I overwrote it with a copy of /usr/share/autostart/plasma-desktop.desktop, and now the panel starts correctly [07:23] hi, i have an output sound problem. i was using alsa before and it worked fine, but my mic dident work. then i made playback/recording with pulse pri1 in all the sub dirs under multimedia. but now i cant get any output sound, but my mic(input sound) strted to work. does anyone know how i can make output sound to wrk with pulse ? [07:23] back [07:24] hagabaka: ^_^ Interesting find. I'll keep that in mind next time mine starts acting up; thanks. [07:25] Oh that is WEIRD [07:25] Striking7: What are your specs? KWin is still a bit more demanding than Compiz, and it really shows on older hardware. [07:25] This is a Macbook pro circa 2007 [07:26] Striking7: That doesn't really tell me anything. :) [07:26] So Core 2 duo 2.4 ghz, 3 gigs ram, 8600GT with 256 MB [07:26] Haha, hey I was typing... :-p [07:26] You Apple guys sure love to plug that you use Macs. :P [07:26] ohh ok. hehe, sorry [07:26] Haha, I'm actually not an apple guy really. [07:27] First thing I did when I got it was slap Ubuntu on it. I make Apple guys cry. [07:27] Huh... but ok this is a strange bug. [07:27] Nice. >=) [07:27] Check this out [07:27] When I resize windows (biggest performance problem I was having with kwin) ... [07:27] I can't shrink them horizontally now. [07:27] I can expand them, and I can both expand and shrink vertically [07:28] But when I use alt+middle click OR click-drag the lower right corner, I can't shrink the window. [07:28] That's a really strange bug. [07:28] I believe I came across that one a time or two, but it was very intermittant. [07:29] Seems so specific you'd think it was intentional. [07:29] (obviously it's not) [07:29] Striking7: Honestly, if Compiz is still running fine, given you've got it installed anyway, I'd recommend it over KWin. Only time I use KWin is on ATI systems where compositing isn't worth the trouble. [07:30] contrast: Yeah, makes sense, we'll see if compiz runs any faster - I'm not sure if it is yet or not. [07:30] the "network" system monitor plasmoid in 4.4 is very wide, and there's no way to make it just a square :/ [07:31] contrast: My first Ubuntu install was Breezy (5.10) on a system with an ATI mobility 200M - I was scared away from ATI after that :-) [07:31] I'd consider going back now that AMD opened up a lot of their specs. [07:32] Huh. Seems the horizontal resizing bug may be Amarok-specific. [07:32] Striking7: Don't. :-| [07:32] Still that bad, eh? [07:33] Striking7: I had that exact same idea ~a year ago. Just trashed the laptop a few weeks ago to cash in on the replacement warranty. [07:34] Sigh. I forgot how poorly the KDE desktop pager widgets work with compiz. [07:34] Wow, that bad? dayum. [07:34] Striking7: -_~ [07:34] Even with the crappy Xpress 200M compiz still ran alright -- it just took a long time to get it working. [07:35] Works perfectly here. [07:36] For some reason the KDE desktop pagers don't interact well with compiz's desktops for me. [07:36] Like, they report an incorrect number of desktops, and the ones they report don't actually coincide with compiz's. [07:36] Striking7: How so, exactly? Since ~KDE4.1, it's worked without issue for me. [07:37] Striking7: Are you using the GConf configuration backend? [07:37] Hmm. Well when I started compiz it went to the default of 2 desktops, but the pager reports just one. [07:37] contrast: likely. Should I jump into CCSM and change that? [07:37] Striking7: Try changing any of the pager's settings and see if it fixes itself. [07:38] Striking7: Well, you can, but IIRC, you'll lose all your settings. [07:38] I always use flat-file. [07:38] Yeah, well it probably isn't using gconf since I already set my desktops to 4 in gnome. [07:38] so if it went back to 2 it probably switched backends. [07:39] true [07:41] Sad. Yeah, pager isn't working right, but it may be because I'm dual-head too. [07:41] The pager shows my 2 displays the way you'd expect different desktops to display [07:42] is there a graphical lvm utility for kubuntu? [07:42] or kde in general? [07:44] contrast: thanks for the help - I'm headed off to bed. [07:45] blarg [07:47] A couple ieee processes owned by root went to town on my CPU when I plugged in my ethernet cord, and refused to die even for signal 9. o_O [07:48] hi, i have an output sound problem. i was using alsa before and it worked fine, but my mic dident work. then i made playback/recording with pulse pri1 in all the sub dirs under multimedia. but now i cant get any output sound, but my mic(input sound) started to work. does anyone know how i can make output sound to work with pulse ? [07:48] im using latest version of kubuntu [07:49] hello all [07:49] wee: Do you have the pulseaudio package installed? [07:50] !hi dihae [07:50] contrast: im not sure tbh. dosent kubuntu have those as defoult ? [07:52] contrast: i have the pulse volume control and sound server pref [07:52] since kde 4.4 beta 1 (yeah, living on the edge) it complains about not being able to use the virtuoso rdf nepomuk backend. Does kubuntu include this package, which means it is a bug in kde, or is virtuoso just not available [07:52] wee: Nope, it's not installed by default. === david is now known as Guest96417 [07:53] contrast: ohh, do you know the name of the package ? [07:54] dihae: Good question. I'd try running "apt-cache search virtuoso" to find out (I'd do it, but I don't have that repo enabled). [07:54] wee: pulseaudio ;) [07:54]