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zulthis is going to be a fun meeting13:53
zulstupid netsplits13:53
jiboumanszul: totally13:55
jiboumans* bob joined the room13:55
jiboumans<zul> And that's why I'll never wear a dress again!13:55
zul*shudder*13:55
kirklando/13:56
* jjohansen \o13:57
jiboumans\\o o//13:57
jiboumans\o/13:57
zulhey jjohansen13:57
mathiaz~o~13:58
jjohansenheya zul13:58
jiboumansttx, smoser around?13:58
smoserhola13:58
ttxo/13:59
jiboumansright, let's get started then13:59
jiboumans#startmeeting13:59
MootBotjiboumans, There is already a meeting in progress.13:59
jiboumanso.O13:59
jiboumans#endmeeting13:59
jiboumanso..k.. now what? :)14:00
zulright im going back to bed then ;)14:00
ttxjiboumans: now you do it without mootbot, methinks14:00
* jjohansen wonders if it is still the kernel meeting from yesterday14:00
jiboumansso no #reallyreallyendmeeting then14:00
jiboumansmoving along14:01
jiboumans[TOPIC] Scribe assignment14:01
jiboumansthis week is zul's turn to do the minutes14:01
zulwhee14:01
jiboumansnext week is the next one in alphabetical order from the server team14:01
jiboumans[TOPIC] review action points from previous meetings14:02
jiboumansACTION: jos to review/approve server-lucid-more-mail-integration14:02
mathiazjiboumans: alphabetical on the first or last name?14:02
ttxon irc nicks14:02
jiboumansmathiaz: irc nick, and no changesies :)14:02
jiboumansBoth myself and ttx have reviewed the spec from ScottK and approved it, so that one's done14:02
jiboumansScottK++ for championing this14:03
* ScottK looks up14:03
ScottKAnyone wants to help, let me know.14:03
jiboumansalright, next one:14:03
jiboumansACTION: smoser to push cloud dailies to ISO tracker asap14:03
ttxwas done as part of the alpha1 release process.14:03
smoser:)14:04
jiboumanssmoser++ thanks14:04
jiboumansACTION: smoser to open bug for kernel team follow-up on ramdiskless kernels14:04
smoserdone, looking for bug14:04
jiboumans(that gives mathiaz and kirkland 2 minutes to rush to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/CodeReviews14:05
jiboumansand claim 'done')14:05
kirklandheh14:05
smoserbug 49456514:05
jjohansenthanks14:05
jiboumansjjohansen: bug report has everything you need in it?14:06
mathiazjiboumans: not-done14:06
mathiazjiboumans: I'll have a look at it later14:06
jjohansenjiboumans: I think so14:06
jiboumansexcellent14:07
jiboumansmoving on14:07
kirklandjiboumans: hmm, yeah, I haven't had a chance to do much code review14:07
jiboumansACTION: zul, kirkland, mathiaz to sign up for sponsoring time on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/CodeReviews14:07
zuldone14:07
* jiboumans hits refresh one more time14:07
jiboumans[ACTION]: kirkland, mathiaz to sign up for sponsoring time on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/CodeReviews14:08
jiboumansplease have it done by next meeting14:08
kirklandjiboumans: oh, you just want us to sign up for an hour at this time?14:08
jiboumanskirkland: a weekly hour. it was explained last meeting i believe, and the details are on that wiki link as well14:08
kirklandjiboumans: sorry, missed last meeting14:09
* gnuyoga waves14:09
jiboumanskirkland: np, that's what the minutes are for ;)14:09
jiboumanskirkland, mathiaz: any confusion, ttx and dholbach can explain14:09
jiboumansok, moving on14:10
jiboumans[TOPIC] Check blueprint status and progress for the week14:10
kirklandjiboumans: done14:10
jiboumansi'll copy a name of a blueprint to the chat. if you're hte assignee, please give us a quick 1 line update. 'all on track' is fine14:10
jiboumansserver-lucid-canonical-application-support 74% done14:10
jiboumans(risks or blockers specifically highlighted please)14:11
jiboumansfor those reading along at home, the overview of all our blueprints & progess for alpha2 is found here: http://piware.de/workitems/server/lucid-alpha2/report.html14:11
zulwaiting for the MIR team to get back to me14:12
jiboumansare we blocked until then?14:12
zulyeah14:12
jiboumansdo we have an eta from them?14:12
zulim going to being poking people today14:12
zulno eta yet14:12
jiboumanscan you please follow up on that? somewhere this week seems reasonable iirc14:13
zulof course14:13
jiboumansthanks14:13
jiboumansnext one: server-lucid-eucalyptus-karmic-retrospective 64% done14:13
jiboumansttx: ^14:13
ttxon track - blocker is the ML implementation14:13
kirklandjiboumans: ttx: code published, which was part of that one! :-)14:14
ttxyay14:14
jiboumansi've bumped the prio on that and IS is working on it. ACTION on me to follow up some more14:14
jiboumanskirkland++ ttx++ nice14:14
jiboumansnext one: server-lucid-eucalyptus-merging-and-packaging 61% done14:14
ttxeucalyptus++14:14
kirklandjiboumans: looking good14:14
kirklandjiboumans: blocker now is getting eucalyptus working14:15
kirklandjiboumans: unstable toolchain introduced some breakage14:15
kirklandjiboumans: gotta love java fun14:15
jiboumanskirkland: always fun; we're on top of this with the euca guys right?14:15
kirkland"java -- write once, run ... away screaming"14:15
ttxlol14:15
kirklandjiboumans: yeah, we're on it, private emails right now, until the ML gets setup ... kinda clunky14:15
ttx"write once, never package"14:16
jiboumansi'm glad at least some language has a worse rep here than perl...14:16
jiboumansok, moving on14:16
jiboumanssmoser: server-lucid-cloud-krd 56% done14:16
* kirkland loves perl :-)14:16
smoseron track. really good except for opened bug mentioned above14:16
ttxeverybody loves perl.14:16
smosersilly perl14:16
jiboumansheh, ok excellent14:16
jiboumans(on both accounts ;)14:16
jiboumansserver-lucid-euca2ools 50% done14:17
jjohansenand that is inprogress.  Hopefully will have something to play with by next week14:17
jiboumansjjohansen++ and thanks to the kernel team for picking this stuff up quickly14:17
smoserjiboumans, i'll respond for euca2ools. i think "on track".14:17
kirklandjiboumans: i plan on picking up euca2ools in January14:18
jiboumanssmoser: we have a decision to make still on 2 work items at the bottom of hte spec14:18
kirklandjiboumans: as i'm working on euca-packaging, which is currently rated at a higher priority14:18
kirklandjiboumans: i suggest those for discussion items during tomorrow's call14:18
jiboumanskirkland: the 2 open items are on our plate to decide on14:19
jiboumansno longer related to eucalyptus. we can either implement them in eucatools ourselves, or in xc214:19
kirklandjiboumans: okay14:19
jiboumanssmoser: i take it you need a bit longer to make that call?14:19
kirklandjiboumans: gotcha; should we discuss here?  now?  later?14:19
smoserjiboumans, neither of those is a real big deal. one way or another xc2 will be getting 'region' through. and same with "environment varialble consistency" (which i have to look at that bug some on)14:20
jiboumanssmoser: ok, no rush in getting it sorted today. thanks for the update14:20
smoserso if euca2ools says "no absolutely not" to region (which i think is silly), i dont care all that much14:20
smosers/think is silly/think would be short-sited/14:20
jiboumanssmoser: as dicussed; they're happy to take the patch, but we'll have to write it14:20
jiboumansso that call's on our plate14:21
jiboumansmoving on. mathiaz: server-lucid-seeds 47% done14:21
mathiazon track14:22
mathiazzul: is looking after MRI14:22
jiboumanszul: MRI's on track as well?14:22
zulMIR were done yesterday14:22
mathiazwhile I'm working on the list of packages to promote/demote14:22
jiboumanszul++ faster than a speeding bullet14:22
jiboumansmathiaz: welcome back ;)14:22
jiboumansok, next one. ttx: server-lucid-euca-remote-autoregister 21%14:22
jiboumansthat one's behind the curve on the burndown chart right now14:23
ttxin progress -- hope to be able to commit some of the scripts this week14:23
ttxit conflicts with 1.6.2 merging14:23
jiboumansresource wise?14:24
ttxi.e. difficult to commit new things until 1.6.214:24
ttxlands14:24
ttxs/lands/works14:24
kirklandttx: hmm, you can commit against 1.6.2 now14:24
jiboumansunderstood; are we under any pressure to meet our goal here for alpha2 yet?14:24
ttxkirkland: rigth, but not test14:24
kirklandttx: i've pushed that to ~ubuntu-core-dev/eucalyptus/ubuntu14:24
kirklandttx: right, it is hard to test, i grant that14:24
ttxit's also a resource problem. the time spent debugging 1.6.2 is not spent writing that stuff14:25
mathiazkirkland: is UEC supposed to work in alpha-1?14:25
ttxi.e. I planned to land most of it today, but didn't14:25
kirklandjiboumans: really, the pressure right now, IMHO, is having a running eucalyptus -- a lot of other work items are dependent on that14:25
ttxmathiaz: it works14:25
kirklandmathiaz: it's eucalyptus 1.6.1 in alpha1 -- it worked for me14:25
kirklandmathiaz: the big changes come in 1.6.214:25
ttxand it still works.14:25
jiboumanskirkland: let me rephrase: given the time left, with a working eucalyptus at the end of the week, can we still make all the work items by alpha214:26
ttxjiboumans: yes14:26
kirklandjiboumans: yes14:26
jiboumansok, awesome14:26
jiboumansmoving on. mathiaz: server-lucid-uec-testing 12% done14:26
mathiazjiboumans: on-track14:26
mathiazjiboumans: working on this for now.14:26
mathiazThe hardware status is defered IIUC14:27
jiboumansmathiaz: you're getting in touch with the montreal guys, right?14:27
mathiazjiboumans: yes14:27
mathiazjiboumans: I'll threaten them with poutine bombing if they don't comply with my wishes14:28
jiboumansmathiaz: excellent. ttx verified that the multiple-network setup won't land in eucalyptus still around alpha2, so it's ok not to plan for those tests by alpha2, but for right after14:28
zulmathiaz: ick14:28
jiboumansmathiaz: please cc: me on that ;)14:28
jiboumansalright, moving on. zul: server-lucid-landscape-refresh 0% done14:28
zulstarting tomorrow14:28
jiboumansi know this is pending a landscape drop.14:28
mathiazjiboumans: ok - so I'll focus on single network only until alpha214:28
jiboumanszul: we got the code drop from them, and accounts are setup?14:29
zuljiboumans: no code drops, accounts are setup though14:29
jiboumanszul: code drop for tomorrow confirmed though?14:29
zuljiboumans: confirming with the landscape guys now14:29
jiboumansthanks14:30
mathiazzul: there is a pending sru for landscape in interpid as well14:30
mathiazzul: are you also following that one?14:30
zulmathiaz: ill take a look14:30
mathiazzul: I'd ask free about it14:30
zulmathiaz: will do14:30
jiboumanszul: please flag if code drop does'nt happen this week14:30
jiboumansok, and to wrap up: not discussing the following specs, as they are not planned to be started  yet:14:31
jiboumansserver-lucid-ec2-config not started14:31
jiboumansserver-lucid-ec2-boothooks not started14:31
smoserjiboumans, i will make significant progress on those charts for boothooks today14:31
jiboumanssmoser: that'd be most excellent14:31
smoserfor config, i guess that i'm getting some help from zul or mathiaz i welcome either.14:31
jiboumanssmoser: mathiaz will take care of kicking off ec2-config14:32
smoserok.14:32
jiboumansanother reminder: Work item to burndown chart syntax got updated, please check your blueprints: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WorkItemsHowto#Subcycle%20tracking14:32
jiboumansanything more on blue prints?14:32
jiboumansalright, next topic14:33
jiboumans[TOPIC] Assigned and to-be-assigned bugs: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/canonical-server-assigned-bug-tasks.html14:33
jiboumansttx, the floor is yours14:33
* ttx hugs the 3 machines he just received for euca testing14:33
ttx\o/14:33
jiboumansttx++ dell++14:33
ttxNothing assigned to team needing reassignment14:34
ttxzul, kirkland: does the list reflect accurately things that you intend to work on in a near future, or is there still some noise ?14:34
kirklandttx: let me check14:35
ttxeveryone: do you need to report blocing issues on any of those bugs ?14:36
zulttx: yeah the samba dhcp lease is more of a dhcp problem14:36
kirklandttx: there's some noise14:36
ttxblocking14:36
kirklandttx: i'll make sure that list is accurate14:36
ttxkirkland: cool, that will help us in reviewing it, thx14:36
ScottKIn Universe, courier is still in real need of attention.  It has a fair userbase and I still don't have time to look at it.14:36
kirklandttx: i could probably use some help with ecryptfs-in-ubuntu stuff, since it sounds like i'm not officially working on that any more14:36
DavieyScottK: What issues?14:36
kirklandttx: perhaps we need some help from the security and/or foundations team identifying an owner14:37
ttxkirkland: yes, we do14:37
kirklandttx: can you and/or jiboumans help with that?14:37
ScottKDaviey: From the bug reports there still seem to be problems with installability.  It needs a good bug triage to start.14:38
ttxjiboumans: you take care of that ?14:38
jiboumansttx: i was about to volunteer you :) who'd be a good person to contact for this?14:38
ttxjiboumans: robbiew14:38
mathiazjiboumans: or kees14:39
kirklandjiboumans: we'd need to negotiate this with robbie14:39
jiboumanskirkland: are we in a need to do this before the end of the year?14:39
kirklandjiboumans: not urgently14:39
kirklandjiboumans: but definitely within the Lucid cycle14:39
jiboumansok, then [ACTION] jib14:39
kirklandjiboumans: basically, if I'm not fixing ecryptfs bugs in Ubuntu, no one is14:39
kirklandjiboumans: in each previous cycle, I had at least a little bit of dedicated time to doing so14:40
kirklandjiboumans: it's a 10-20% job14:40
kirklandjiboumans: half-day per week is probably sufficient14:40
jiboumanskirkland: understood. zul please action me accordingly14:41
jiboumansdue somewhere in january14:41
zulokie dokie14:41
ttxok, nothing else on the buglist ?14:41
ttxjiboumans: next on the agenda ?14:42
jiboumans[TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (soren)14:42
jiboumanssoren is off making snow angels though, so no update from him14:42
jiboumans[TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (jjohansen)14:42
zulheh14:42
jjohansenwell not much progress, I took a few days off last week14:43
jiboumansjjohansen: snow angels?14:43
jjohansenI started poking at the configs14:43
jjohansensnow angels?  didn't get any snow in Portland14:43
jjohansenthough it was unusually cold14:44
jjohansenI don't think the kernel team has any question atm14:44
jiboumansjjohansen: great, thanks14:44
jiboumansany questions from us for the kernel team?14:44
zulnot from me14:45
jiboumansalright, next topic14:45
jiboumans[TOPIC] Weekly SRU review (mathiaz)14:45
mathiazthere is one bug nominated for dapper:14:45
mathiazhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/12861214:45
mathiazzul: seems that you've commented on it lately14:45
ubott2Ubuntu bug 128612 in samba "Segfault in Samba installing a printer on a client" [Undecided,Fix released]14:46
zulgah that fell off my list14:46
mathiazshould we consider fixing it in a SRU for dapper?14:46
smoseris there a SRU review llist link ?14:46
mathiazsmoser: what do you mean exactly?14:46
mathiazsmoser: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/KnowledgeBase#Team%20policy has a list of lists to review14:47
smoserthats what i wanted then.14:47
mathiaznext list: http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/fixedbugs.ubuntu-server.latest.html14:47
mathiazany bugs worth SRUing that were fixed last week? ^^14:47
Davieymathiaz: hmm, i'm not convinced that lp url is catching them all.14:48
mathiazDaviey: yes - I know14:48
jiboumanssmoser: link added to agenda14:48
mathiazDaviey: I think I'll have to write custom scripts to make sure we get all nominated bugs14:49
mathiazhttp://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/acceptedbugs.ubuntu-server.latest.html14:49
MootBotLINK received:  http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/acceptedbugs.ubuntu-server.latest.html14:49
mathiaz^^ list of accepted bugs14:49
mathiazthere is bug http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server-team/acceptedbugs.ubuntu-server.latest.html14:49
Davieymathiaz: i'll be quiet now :)..14:49
mathiazthere is bug 11450514:49
mathiazassigned to the ubuntu-server team14:49
mathiazit should be assigned to some one rather than a team14:50
mathiazand the list of reviews is empty14:50
mathiazwhich means that either there isn't SRU done, or that bzr branches and reviews are not used enough14:51
mathiazI also plan to update some of the scripts to put more information (like how long a bug has been assigned) with the goal to make sure things are moving in the pipeline14:51
mathiazanything else to add on the SRU review?14:52
ubottuLaunchpad bug 114505 in ntp "ntp brought up before network is ready; fails not resolve any ip or host names; ntp does not recover" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11450514:52
jiboumansalright, moving on then14:52
jiboumans[TOPIC] Conference attendance 2010 (jib)14:53
jiboumanswe're prepping an overview of what conferences people are attending in 2010. if you're planned to go anywhere14:53
jiboumansplease let me & randa know14:53
kirklandjiboumans: are these requests for conferences that we can make?14:53
DavieyFOSDEM :)14:54
ttxjiboumans: planned to go to FOSDEM, got a main track slot there... but cancelled it due to conflict with sprint14:54
jiboumanskirkland: nope, confirmed attendances14:54
jiboumansi'm interested in requests too though, so send me both :)14:54
zulheh im planning to go to OLS but its not in ottawa14:54
kirklandjiboumans: k14:54
kirklandjiboumans: i'm going to linuxconf.au in January, but randa knows that already ( I think you do too? )14:54
jiboumansso ACTION for next week for you kids to send me and randa an overview of all that you've got planned for the next year14:55
mathiazjiboumans: that's gonna be sooooo long14:55
jiboumanskirkland: one email wiht a list would be great, it'd make randa's life easier14:55
kirklandjiboumans: cheers14:56
jiboumansalright, last topic14:56
jiboumans[TOPIC] Open Discussion14:56
jiboumansanyone, anything?14:56
alexmjiboumans: does YAPC::EU count for last item? ;)14:56
* ttx opens his Christmas presents14:57
* zul is working on fcoe packaging today14:57
DavieyMore Ubuntu tips needed for the tips project, urgently :)14:57
jiboumansDaviey: i believe you have a wiki page where tips can be contributed? want to share the url once more?14:57
Davieyjiboumans: It's now a case of raise a bug against the ubuntu-server-tips project on LP14:58
Davieyhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/server-tips14:58
zulkablooie14:59
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* fagan waves16:57
* ara waves16:57
schwukHi all .o/16:57
* fader_ waves.16:57
* moustafa waves16:58
* bdmurray waves16:58
pedro_hola!16:58
fader_This may be a difficult meeting with the netsplits going on...16:59
fagantrue16:59
marjofader_ let's see how it holds up16:59
davmor2hello see how long we can run it16:59
popeylast night we moved to #ubuntu-meeting on irc.oftc.net16:59
marjo#startmeeting QA Team17:00
MootBotmarjo, There is already a meeting in progress.17:00
popeywas much more sane17:00
fader_Yeah, looks like the foundations team cancelled their meeting17:00
fader_(Though I don't know what MootBot is confused about)17:00
davmor2meh they haven't been able to stop the bot17:00
marjook i'm ignoring mootbot17:01
davmor2fader_: might not of shut it down17:01
marjoAgenda17:01
marjo# SRU testing -- sbeattie (Steve Beattie)17:01
marjo# Bugday highlights -- pedro17:01
marjo#17:01
marjoFuture of Ubuntu QA Launchpad team (https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-qa) -- ara17:01
marjo# Calls for testing: mailing list or "Contact This Team" -- ara17:01
marjo# Holidays season meetings17:01
marjo[TOPIC] SRU testing -- sbeattie (Steve Beattie)17:02
sbeattieSRU Activity report for the past week (since 2009-12-09):17:02
sbeattie* karmic: 21 new packages in -proposed, and 14 packages pushed to -updates.17:02
sbeattie* jaunty: 3 new packages in -proposed (squirrelmail, xfce4-weather-plugin, xvidcap), and no packages pushed to -updates17:02
sbeattie*intrepid: 3 new packages in -proposed (openafs, squirrelmail, xfce4-weather-plugin), and no packages pushed to -proposed17:02
sbeattie* hardy: 7 new packages in -proposed (alpine, grub, linux-backports-modules-2.6.24, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24, squirrelmail, virtualbox-ose-modules, xfce4-weather-plugin) and 1 pushed to -updates (virtualbox-ose-modules)17:02
sbeattie* dapper: no non-security update activity this week17:02
sbeattieThanks to felipe, Savvas Radevic, Lucio M Nicolosi, lhassall, ilna, Alessio Treglia, Nico Zanferrari, Ilya Barygin, kallistec, Daniel Nurmi, Vadim Peretokin, ubername, Fabrice Coutadeur, C de-Avillez (hggdh), patmalcolm91, LocutusOfBorg, Augusto Campos, JanCeuleers, Hendrik T, Thawn, oliver, Rolf Leggewie, Alex, John Reiser, Evan Broder (ebroder), rednose, Onkar Shinde (slytherin), Liassic, behemot, defunctzombie, and Bane fo17:02
sbeattier testing packages in -proposed this week.17:02
marjowow, nice testing team! thx everyone!17:03
sbeattieYeah, lot of testers, lots of activity this last week.17:03
* Grantbow cheers17:04
marjosbeattie: anything else?17:04
sbeattiethat's all I've got this week.17:04
marjo[TOPIC] Bugday highlights -- pedro17:04
pedro_Last week we celebrated a bug day based on Compiz, we had a great participation from the community17:04
marjolooks like mootbot is dead17:04
pedro_~133 bugs were triaged : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/2009121017:04
pedro_thanks a lot to kamusin, ben-v-root, marcosvanetta, gabegorelick, yofel and AbtZ17:05
pedro_for their participation on the bug day and also helping to organize it17:05
pedro_Tomorrow! yes tomorrow, we're having a bug day based on Bugs without a package17:05
pedro_the target is considered one of the easiest for doing triage17:06
pedro_so if you want to start doing some triage join us and we'll help you17:06
pedro_as you can see here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20091217 ; some folks already started to work17:06
marjothx folks17:06
pedro_so if you have some time, you're welcome to join us :-)17:06
* yofel joins in ^^17:07
pedro_thanks also to kamusin again for helping or organizing the bug day17:07
marjolooks like the new process for organizing bug days is working well17:07
* pedro_ hugs yofel17:07
pedro_marjo, yeah i'm happy now :-)17:07
marjopedro_ anything else?17:07
* kamusin :), I would like a nice present from santa 17:07
pedro_marjo, that's all from here17:07
aranice, netsplit17:08
fagangood job pedro_17:08
pedro_w00t17:08
moustafayay!17:08
faganhehe17:08
pedro_who turned off the server?17:08
faganit kicked marjo17:08
pedro_fagan did it i'm sure...17:08
faganits the us server playing up again17:09
faganshould we continue ?17:10
moustafafagan: I dunno, I'm in no position to decide17:12
bdmurrayWhat was next on the agenda?17:12
* fagan gos to get it17:12
davmor2future of qa launchpad team17:13
faganara: you still with us?17:13
faganyay17:16
fagannetspit over for now17:16
faganwelcome back marjo you didnt miss anything17:16
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faganhmmmmm17:16
marjofagan: i've decided to cancel the meeting17:16
fagancool17:16
marjosorry17:17
faganits too bad at the moment17:17
ashishnarmenwhen will the next meeting be held ?17:17
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faganashishnarmen: thats what the last agenda item was about17:18
araashishnarmen, we were thinking coming back after holidays17:18
davmor2marjo: take the key points to the mailing list it might be easier17:19
sbeattiedavmor2: that seems sensible to me.17:20
faganagreed17:21
davmor2marjo: especially the meetings over xmas17:21
marjodavmor2: yes, i'll update the wik17:24
marjowiki17:24
czajkowskimarjo: we moved some of yesterdays meetings to oftc.net on #ubuntu-meeting17:24
czajkowskiand left the topic in here to point to people to go there17:25
GrantbowI'm sure Freenode is doing all they can to assure their quality. :-)17:27
marjoczajkowski: thx for the info17:28
czajkowskiGrantbow: we are17:28
ulysses__Kubuntu meeting in 20 minutes in #kubuntu-devel on irc.oftc.net17:41
czajkowskiulysses__: you may want to get teh topic in here switched to announce it17:42
ulysses__czajkowski: I can't change the topic, can anyone do it please?17:43
czajkowskiulysses__: hmm  popey you about17:44
czajkowskipleia2: ping17:44
pleia2hm?17:45
czajkowskipleia2: can you change the topic for ulysses__ for meeting17:46
pleia2oh, on oftc?17:46
czajkowskiin here17:46
macopleia2: /topic change request17:46
pleia2oh17:46
pleia2sec17:47
czajkowskipleia2: thank you17:47
pleia2/msg chanserv access #ubuntu-meeting list17:48
pleia2nag one of the people on that list :)17:48
nixternaldon't worry about it, I will be the notifier...hardly anyone reads topics it seems anyways17:54
tsimpsonpleia2: the channel isn't +t17:59
pleia2oh18:01
pleia2tsimpson: good point :)18:02
pleia2czajkowski: anyone can chage the topic :)18:02
Grantbowmaybe the bot can?18:02
Grantbowoh, lol18:03
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czajkowskipleia2: didnt know18:04
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macowow thats a very hit rate for the ops trigger18:06
macos/very/very high/18:07
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