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| machina | hey i'm attempting to package xsensors 0.60 for debian and I noticed that the author of the upstream source package had run ./configure | 04:15 |
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| machina | is it all right if i run "make distclean" | 04:15 |
| machina | and I guess that would be a patch as well from the original version? | 04:16 |
| machina | http://linuxhardware.org/xsensors/ | 04:16 |
| machina | actually nvm, I know what to do know | 04:24 |
| machina | *now | 04:24 |
| LucidFox | Nafallo, when you return, I'd like to offer some suggestions about the gajim package. | 04:42 |
| rhpot1991 | not the right place to ask this, but is there an irc channel for community wiki support? | 05:37 |
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| contrast | Greets, everyone... | 06:26 |
| contrast | Could someone point me in the direction of information on building packages for stuff that doesn't need to be compiled (e.g., wallpapers, scripts, etc.)? | 06:27 |
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| fabrice_sp | contrast, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PackagingWithoutCompiling | 07:20 |
| contrast | fabrice_sp: Gorgeous, thanks. I [foolishly] assumed the terms would be too generic to search for. Much appreciated. :) | 07:21 |
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| * David-T wonders whats so difficult about trying a search first... | 07:33 | |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:46 |
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| l00nr | Hello MOTUs! I want to get involved in Ubuntu Packaging and have a question regarding version numbers for release candidates of upstream versions | 09:41 |
| l00nr | can someone help me on this? | 09:42 |
| persia | l00nr: Lots of people can help, but they'll find it easier if you ask a specific question :) | 09:42 |
| dholbach | l00nr: best just ask :) | 09:42 |
| l00nr | ok. i want to help packaging "opensc". there's a tar.gz opensc-0.11.12-rc1... | 09:44 |
| l00nr | with an old .diff as the base i now can "debuild" packages | 09:45 |
| l00nr | what do i have to write in changelog to make it "right" | 09:46 |
| l00nr | opensc-0.11.12~rc1~0ubuntu1 was my first guess | 09:46 |
| persia | The version string in the changelog doesn't need the package name, so first start with the upstream value. | 09:47 |
| l00nr | is that correct? | 09:47 |
| persia | Not quite. | 09:47 |
| persia | You probably want 0.11.12~rc1-0ubuntu1 | 09:47 |
| persia | Or 0.11.12~rc1-0ubuntu0+tryX where X is an increasing series until you get something ready for distribution. | 09:48 |
| persia | The difference is that you *do* want to use a hyphen to separate the version from the revision. | 09:48 |
| persia | Although I think you've made the right choice to replace upstream's hyphen with a tilde, as this allows later release of opensc-0.11.12-0ubuntu1 | 09:49 |
| persia | That said, I think I saw some opensc packaging in the past. There may be something you can use as a base. | 09:49 |
| l00nr | yes, it's my plan to get this clean and not to interfere with final releases. | 09:50 |
| l00nr | I've already contact to a member of the opensc-project who has already done packaging in the past. I want to help on that. | 09:50 |
| persia | Ah, yeah, that's only at 0.11.9. I see. | 09:51 |
| persia | If you're specifically interested primarily in working with opensc, I'd recommend you contact the Debian opensc maintainer(s). | 09:51 |
| persia | Just because you'll want to understand what they've been doing for the past few years, and keep aligned to that | 09:52 |
| l00nr | 0.11.5 to < 0.11.12 have a problem (a bug fix) which makes it impossible for us to use it. 0.11.12 fixes this. | 09:52 |
| l00nr | no... not fixes it: workaround it... | 09:52 |
| persia | Well, that's going to be hard to backport. | 09:52 |
| persia | If you can extract the patch specifically, fixing the 0.11.8 in karmic might be interesting. | 09:52 |
| persia | But getting both lucid and squeeze up to 0.11.12 sounds like the right solution. | 09:53 |
| persia | Some information about the state in Debian is available at http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/opensc.html | 09:53 |
| persia | And it may be worth following up on Debian bug #552516 to indicate that 0.11.11 isn't ideal for various reasons, and it's worth moving directly to 0.11.12. | 09:54 |
| ubottu | Debian bug 552516 in opensc "New OpenSC Version available -- please change package description" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/552516 | 09:54 |
| l00nr | if the new version is contained in lucid we would be happy. no need (for us) to backport to karmic | 09:54 |
| l00nr | ok. i will have a look at this bug and contact the debian maintainer. thank you for the help. | 09:58 |
| persia | l00nr: That said, if you've wider interests, or want to work on other stuff, we're here to help :) I just think that's the best strategy for the specific issue you mentioned. | 10:04 |
| l00nr | persia: i'm sure i'll have more questions in the future as we are starting to use ubuntu on our enterprise desktops... :-) | 10:07 |
| persia | Excellent :) | 10:07 |
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| ari-tczew | debuild on lucid creates packages by *.debian.tar.gz, how can I use debuild if I except *.orig.tar.gz ? | 10:33 |
| ari-tczew | ppa reply: format '3.0 (quilt)' is not permitted in lucid. | 10:35 |
| persia | ari-tczew: Could you restate that question more verbosely? | 10:35 |
| ari-tczew | ok, so I'm working on merges and today I can't get source package by debuild -S, ppa doesn't accept my package because: format '3.0 (quilt)' is not permitted in lucid | 10:36 |
| persia | ari-tczew: Ah. I hear that format: 3.0 support is coming soon. Potentially in the next week or so. | 10:37 |
| ari-tczew | persia, ok thanks, but I need do build test of package, how can I test it using pbuilder? | 10:37 |
| persia | I'm not familiar with pbuilder. | 10:38 |
| persia | I'd presume you could just use pdebuild. | 10:38 |
| ari-tczew | ok | 10:38 |
| geser | ari-tczew: if you have a pbuilder setup: "pbuilder build your_merge.dsc" | 10:40 |
| ari-tczew | geser, ok I'll try to use your propose, but I sent "debuild -us -uc" before your answer, I must wait | 10:41 |
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| ari-tczew | how can I change mirrors which using pbuilder? I got E: Failed to fetch http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-0_2.22.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb: 404 Not Found | 11:04 |
| geser | did you run "pbuilder update"? | 11:05 |
| ari-tczew | no, I didn't | 11:05 |
| geser | your pbuilder is probably using old Packages files therefore this error | 11:05 |
| hyperair | ari-tczew: to change your mirror, you have to do pbuilder --update --mirror "http://newmirror/ubuntu" --override-config | 11:05 |
| hyperair | but yeah, updating your pbuilder should fix the issue | 11:06 |
| ari-tczew | ok, I'll try these commands | 11:06 |
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| ari-tczew | it works! thanks devs! | 11:41 |
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| * Laney nibbles | 13:38 | |
| Laney | afternoon | 13:38 |
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| persia | Does anyone happen to know which architectures end up getting ddebs on ddebs.ubuntu.com? | 15:23 |
| slytherin | persia: As far as I know only i386/amd64 | 15:24 |
| superm1 | the Release file says otherwise: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/lucid/Release | 15:24 |
| persia | slytherin: OK. There are Release files for other architectures though, but I don't see the associated ddebs (and get 404 errors trying to install them) | 15:24 |
| persia | superm1: Yeah, but the files aren't there (e.g. http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/b/binutils/ ) | 15:25 |
| persia | I was thinking they might end up somewhere else (something like archive.u.c vs. ports.u.c) | 15:25 |
| superm1 | persia, bug pitti to double check i'd say | 15:25 |
| superm1 | although launchpad is supposed to grow proper support for them $SOON I thought | 15:26 |
| persia | with $SOON defined, in part, by how many people jump up and code the support? | 15:27 |
| superm1 | i thought there was already work going in on it | 15:28 |
| persia | Well, I'll let it wait a bit. -devel backscroll says pitti isn't around today. | 15:28 |
| persia | I suspect there is. I'm just never confident about LP features until they show up on edge. | 15:29 |
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| persia | After that, they usually drop into production in a month or two unless they get a lot of contention. | 15:30 |
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| bjsnider | siretart, what's the deal on the ffmpeg issues. i've followed the "upgrade trouble" thread with you and niedermayer, but i have no idea what you two are talking about | 18:31 |
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| norax_ | hi. Is there a similar webpage for lucid of http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20090909-karmic.html ? | 19:00 |
| ScottK | norax_: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ is the actual state of the archive for Lucid. | 19:03 |
| m4rtin | evening all; I submitted a patch for sponsorship review (regression fix) over a month ago and haven't heard anything. Any ideas? (it's in bash-completion) | 19:03 |
| c_korn | I used quilt shell in a chroot to make some changes. now how do I get the patch ? do I have to `exit 0` or will this just end the chroot ? | 19:04 |
| fabrice_sp | Hi. Could someone else have a look at fceux in Revu (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/fceux)? it's a nes emulator, and the evolution of fceu | 19:21 |
| randomaction | c_korn: just exit | 19:22 |
| c_korn | randomaction: I tried Ctrl+D and it worked. I think exit would have worked, too. thanks | 19:22 |
| norax_ | Thanks, ScottK | 19:41 |
| Quintasan | hiho | 19:43 |
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| siretart | bjsnider: well, have you tried installing libavutil50 and dependencies from e.g. the openshot PPA and wondered why vlc and almost all other ffmpeg using packages get instantly broken by that? | 20:01 |
| bjsnider | siretart, i'm subscribed to the tiresome bug report for it | 20:02 |
| siretart | bjsnider: that's the problem. currently the libavutil50 package would need to add a Conflicts: libavutil49 in order to prevent the situation | 20:02 |
| siretart | bjsnider: unfortunately, I fail to contact the ppa maintainer, intuitivenipple for that | 20:02 |
| siretart | still, many user just install those packages and happily break their systems | 20:03 |
| siretart | the symbol versioning I've proposed would prevent that problem | 20:03 |
| bjsnider | siretart, no, i wasn't asking about the nature of the problem as much as a rough ETA on a solution, if you have one | 20:03 |
| bjsnider | i understood from the last message in the thread that you were implementing a solution | 20:04 |
| siretart | bjsnider: it takes me finding some hours of spare time to create a patch, plus the reviewing and integration time for ffmpeg upstream. I'd guess a couple of weeks | 20:04 |
| bjsnider | i see | 20:05 |
| bjsnider | you can't disable the openshot ppa in the meantime, especially if the owner is incommunicado? | 20:05 |
| siretart | I can, many angry bug reporters obviously fail to diagnose the problem | 20:06 |
| siretart | and I cannot ask the launchpad admins either to have his ppa removed | 20:06 |
| bjsnider | why not? | 20:07 |
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| siretart | on what grounds? we have never supported 3rd party sources exactly for these reasons | 20:07 |
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| bjsnider | on the grounds that he is unaware of the problem, cannot or will not warn people about it and will not or cannot change things | 20:08 |
| siretart | feel free to do so | 20:09 |
| siretart | still, simply not using his packages and trying to contact him seem better options to me, but obviously, YMMV. | 20:09 |
| bjsnider | you already know about the issue though | 20:10 |
| siretart | you do so as well, now. | 20:10 |
| siretart | I prefer spending my time with fixing packages rather than hunting broken ones from others | 20:11 |
| bjsnider | what's the bug number for the broken mplayer issue? | 20:15 |
| siretart | bjsnider: you said you where already subscribed to that bug | 20:19 |
| bjsnider | i think i deleted the messages | 20:21 |
| bjsnider | they had nothing to do with my ppa and i couldn't say anything more than you did to help anybody | 20:22 |
| bjsnider | i don't understand how it happened. i didn't subscribe myself. i just all of a sudden started getting emails from launchpad about it | 20:23 |
| bjsnider | 461966 | 20:25 |
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| Whoopie | siretart: Hi, if you have time, could you have a look at bug 392115? I attached a debdiff to enable DV support. | 20:53 |
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| fabrice_sp | Hey RainCT ! Could you please add me to Revu as reviewer? | 21:04 |
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| RainCT | fabrice_sp: done :) | 21:18 |
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