=== nxvl_ is now known as nxvl === Whoopie_ is now known as Whoopie [04:15] hey i'm attempting to package xsensors 0.60 for debian and I noticed that the author of the upstream source package had run ./configure === Whoopie_ is now known as Whoopie [04:15] is it all right if i run "make distclean" [04:16] and I guess that would be a patch as well from the original version? [04:16] http://linuxhardware.org/xsensors/ [04:24] actually nvm, I know what to do know [04:24] *now [04:42] Nafallo, when you return, I'd like to offer some suggestions about the gajim package. [05:37] not the right place to ask this, but is there an irc channel for community wiki support? === asac_ is now known as asac [06:26] Greets, everyone... [06:27] Could someone point me in the direction of information on building packages for stuff that doesn't need to be compiled (e.g., wallpapers, scripts, etc.)? === elky is now known as elky` [07:20] contrast, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/School/PackagingWithoutCompiling [07:21] fabrice_sp: Gorgeous, thanks. I [foolishly] assumed the terms would be too generic to search for. Much appreciated. :) === elky` is now known as elky [07:33] * David-T wonders whats so difficult about trying a search first... [07:46] good morning === StevenK_ is now known as StevenK === ara_ is now known as ara [09:41] Hello MOTUs! I want to get involved in Ubuntu Packaging and have a question regarding version numbers for release candidates of upstream versions [09:42] can someone help me on this? [09:42] l00nr: Lots of people can help, but they'll find it easier if you ask a specific question :) [09:42] l00nr: best just ask :) [09:44] ok. i want to help packaging "opensc". there's a tar.gz opensc-0.11.12-rc1... [09:45] with an old .diff as the base i now can "debuild" packages [09:46] what do i have to write in changelog to make it "right" [09:46] opensc-0.11.12~rc1~0ubuntu1 was my first guess [09:47] The version string in the changelog doesn't need the package name, so first start with the upstream value. [09:47] is that correct? [09:47] Not quite. [09:47] You probably want 0.11.12~rc1-0ubuntu1 [09:48] Or 0.11.12~rc1-0ubuntu0+tryX where X is an increasing series until you get something ready for distribution. [09:48] The difference is that you *do* want to use a hyphen to separate the version from the revision. [09:49] Although I think you've made the right choice to replace upstream's hyphen with a tilde, as this allows later release of opensc-0.11.12-0ubuntu1 [09:49] That said, I think I saw some opensc packaging in the past. There may be something you can use as a base. [09:50] yes, it's my plan to get this clean and not to interfere with final releases. [09:50] I've already contact to a member of the opensc-project who has already done packaging in the past. I want to help on that. [09:51] Ah, yeah, that's only at 0.11.9. I see. [09:51] If you're specifically interested primarily in working with opensc, I'd recommend you contact the Debian opensc maintainer(s). [09:52] Just because you'll want to understand what they've been doing for the past few years, and keep aligned to that [09:52] 0.11.5 to < 0.11.12 have a problem (a bug fix) which makes it impossible for us to use it. 0.11.12 fixes this. [09:52] no... not fixes it: workaround it... [09:52] Well, that's going to be hard to backport. [09:52] If you can extract the patch specifically, fixing the 0.11.8 in karmic might be interesting. [09:53] But getting both lucid and squeeze up to 0.11.12 sounds like the right solution. [09:53] Some information about the state in Debian is available at http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/opensc.html [09:54] And it may be worth following up on Debian bug #552516 to indicate that 0.11.11 isn't ideal for various reasons, and it's worth moving directly to 0.11.12. [09:54] Debian bug 552516 in opensc "New OpenSC Version available -- please change package description" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/552516 [09:54] if the new version is contained in lucid we would be happy. no need (for us) to backport to karmic [09:58] ok. i will have a look at this bug and contact the debian maintainer. thank you for the help. [10:04] l00nr: That said, if you've wider interests, or want to work on other stuff, we're here to help :) I just think that's the best strategy for the specific issue you mentioned. [10:07] persia: i'm sure i'll have more questions in the future as we are starting to use ubuntu on our enterprise desktops... :-) [10:07] Excellent :) === warp10_ is now known as warp10 [10:33] debuild on lucid creates packages by *.debian.tar.gz, how can I use debuild if I except *.orig.tar.gz ? [10:35] ppa reply: format '3.0 (quilt)' is not permitted in lucid. [10:35] ari-tczew: Could you restate that question more verbosely? [10:36] ok, so I'm working on merges and today I can't get source package by debuild -S, ppa doesn't accept my package because: format '3.0 (quilt)' is not permitted in lucid [10:37] ari-tczew: Ah. I hear that format: 3.0 support is coming soon. Potentially in the next week or so. [10:37] persia, ok thanks, but I need do build test of package, how can I test it using pbuilder? [10:38] I'm not familiar with pbuilder. [10:38] I'd presume you could just use pdebuild. [10:38] ok [10:40] ari-tczew: if you have a pbuilder setup: "pbuilder build your_merge.dsc" [10:41] geser, ok I'll try to use your propose, but I sent "debuild -us -uc" before your answer, I must wait === korn_ is now known as c_korn [11:04] how can I change mirrors which using pbuilder? I got E: Failed to fetch http://pl.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/glib2.0/libglib2.0-0_2.22.1-0ubuntu1_i386.deb: 404 Not Found [11:05] did you run "pbuilder update"? [11:05] no, I didn't [11:05] your pbuilder is probably using old Packages files therefore this error [11:05] ari-tczew: to change your mirror, you have to do pbuilder --update --mirror "http://newmirror/ubuntu" --override-config [11:06] but yeah, updating your pbuilder should fix the issue [11:06] ok, I'll try these commands === ripps is now known as ripps|sleep [11:41] it works! thanks devs! === hannes__ is now known as hannesw === Lutin is now known as Guest60093 [13:38] * Laney nibbles [13:38] afternoon === zul_ is now known as zul [15:23] Does anyone happen to know which architectures end up getting ddebs on ddebs.ubuntu.com? [15:24] persia: As far as I know only i386/amd64 [15:24] the Release file says otherwise: http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/dists/lucid/Release [15:24] slytherin: OK. There are Release files for other architectures though, but I don't see the associated ddebs (and get 404 errors trying to install them) [15:25] superm1: Yeah, but the files aren't there (e.g. http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/b/binutils/ ) [15:25] I was thinking they might end up somewhere else (something like archive.u.c vs. ports.u.c) [15:25] persia, bug pitti to double check i'd say [15:26] although launchpad is supposed to grow proper support for them $SOON I thought [15:27] with $SOON defined, in part, by how many people jump up and code the support? [15:28] i thought there was already work going in on it [15:28] Well, I'll let it wait a bit. -devel backscroll says pitti isn't around today. [15:29] I suspect there is. I'm just never confident about LP features until they show up on edge. === c0p3rn1c is now known as copernic [15:30] After that, they usually drop into production in a month or two unless they get a lot of contention. === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna === ghostcube_ is now known as ghostcube === nixternal is now known as Guest25223 === Lutin is now known as Guest79668 === txwikinger2 is now known as txwikinger === elky is now known as Guest8433 === Guest79668 is now known as Lutin === etali1 is now known as etali === elky is now known as Guest7704 === fta_ is now known as fta === jcastro_ is now known as jcastro === rmcbride_ is now known as rmcbride === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:31] siretart, what's the deal on the ffmpeg issues. i've followed the "upgrade trouble" thread with you and niedermayer, but i have no idea what you two are talking about === azeem_ is now known as azeem [19:00] hi. Is there a similar webpage for lucid of http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20090909-karmic.html ? [19:03] norax_: http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs/ is the actual state of the archive for Lucid. [19:03] evening all; I submitted a patch for sponsorship review (regression fix) over a month ago and haven't heard anything. Any ideas? (it's in bash-completion) [19:04] I used quilt shell in a chroot to make some changes. now how do I get the patch ? do I have to `exit 0` or will this just end the chroot ? [19:21] Hi. Could someone else have a look at fceux in Revu (http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/fceux)? it's a nes emulator, and the evolution of fceu [19:22] c_korn: just exit [19:22] randomaction: I tried Ctrl+D and it worked. I think exit would have worked, too. thanks [19:41] Thanks, ScottK [19:43] hiho === korn_ is now known as c_korn [20:01] bjsnider: well, have you tried installing libavutil50 and dependencies from e.g. the openshot PPA and wondered why vlc and almost all other ffmpeg using packages get instantly broken by that? [20:02] siretart, i'm subscribed to the tiresome bug report for it [20:02] bjsnider: that's the problem. currently the libavutil50 package would need to add a Conflicts: libavutil49 in order to prevent the situation [20:02] bjsnider: unfortunately, I fail to contact the ppa maintainer, intuitivenipple for that [20:03] still, many user just install those packages and happily break their systems [20:03] the symbol versioning I've proposed would prevent that problem [20:03] siretart, no, i wasn't asking about the nature of the problem as much as a rough ETA on a solution, if you have one [20:04] i understood from the last message in the thread that you were implementing a solution [20:04] bjsnider: it takes me finding some hours of spare time to create a patch, plus the reviewing and integration time for ffmpeg upstream. I'd guess a couple of weeks [20:05] i see [20:05] you can't disable the openshot ppa in the meantime, especially if the owner is incommunicado? [20:06] I can, many angry bug reporters obviously fail to diagnose the problem [20:06] and I cannot ask the launchpad admins either to have his ppa removed [20:07] why not? === maco2 is now known as MsMaco [20:07] on what grounds? we have never supported 3rd party sources exactly for these reasons === MsMaco is now known as maco2 [20:08] on the grounds that he is unaware of the problem, cannot or will not warn people about it and will not or cannot change things [20:09] feel free to do so [20:09] still, simply not using his packages and trying to contact him seem better options to me, but obviously, YMMV. [20:10] you already know about the issue though [20:10] you do so as well, now. [20:11] I prefer spending my time with fixing packages rather than hunting broken ones from others [20:15] what's the bug number for the broken mplayer issue? [20:19] bjsnider: you said you where already subscribed to that bug [20:21] i think i deleted the messages [20:22] they had nothing to do with my ppa and i couldn't say anything more than you did to help anybody [20:23] i don't understand how it happened. i didn't subscribe myself. i just all of a sudden started getting emails from launchpad about it [20:25] 461966 === NCommander is now known as Guest36380 === Guest36380 is now known as NCommander === elky is now known as Guest16843 === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 === YDdraigGoch is now known as Guest48784 [20:53] siretart: Hi, if you have time, could you have a look at bug 392115? I attached a debdiff to enable DV support. === ubott2 is now known as ubottu [21:04] Hey RainCT ! Could you please add me to Revu as reviewer? === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia [21:18] fabrice_sp: done :) === BlackZ is now known as Guest40441