| asac | bdrung: micahg: shoot | 00:09 |
|---|---|---|
| micahg | asac: do we need the -dev package before pushing TB3 to Lucid? | 00:09 |
| asac | yeah | 00:09 |
| asac | i think that makes sense | 00:09 |
| asac | and unversioned -dev package | 00:09 |
| asac | for now empty i guess | 00:10 |
| micahg | asac: ?? | 00:10 |
| asac | but it needs no content | 00:10 |
| micahg | asac: I think that's the way it is now | 00:10 |
| micahg | so, it's not blocking? | 00:10 |
| asac | well. its definitly blocking release | 00:11 |
| asac | or even beta | 00:11 |
| asac | but not the upload | 00:11 |
| micahg | ok | 00:11 |
| asac | we need to file grave bugs against enigmail | 00:11 |
| asac | and tbird | 00:11 |
| asac | with target alpha-3 i would think | 00:11 |
| micahg | asac: next question, am I branching for lucid first or will .head for TB3 replace TB2 in the PPA as well? | 00:11 |
| asac | micahg: you could remove all files from tbird.dev branch locally ... then see if you can merge the whole tb3 tree using merge -r 0.. | 00:12 |
| asac | or something | 00:12 |
| asac | everything locally ;) | 00:12 |
| asac | adn manually add the changelog on top ;) | 00:13 |
| asac | maybe generate that using bzr log or something | 00:13 |
| asac | not really needed though. but would be nice if there are noteworthy changes to include them | 00:13 |
| micahg | asac: I know to test locally first, I'm just wondering if you intend the TB3 PPA to replace TB2 at the moment | 00:13 |
| asac | PPA? | 00:14 |
| micahg | asac: I plan to diff the 2 versions before merging to find out what to change | 00:14 |
| asac | branch? | 00:14 |
| micahg | asac: dailies | 00:14 |
| asac | yeah. we can add a transitional package for that | 00:14 |
| micahg | TB3 dailies pull from .head | 00:14 |
| asac | we should rename thunderbird.dev to thunderbird.head at some point | 00:15 |
| micahg | asac: I see, ok, so we have a release branch and a devel branch | 00:15 |
| micahg | TB3.head will remain a devel branch | 00:15 |
| micahg | and TB.dev will become the TB3 release branch? | 00:15 |
| micahg | asac: but what if there's another release of TB2 (sec updates) | 00:16 |
| asac | micahg: we have stable branches for our stable releases | 00:18 |
| asac | e.g. thunderbird.karmic ... thunderbird.jaunty etc. | 00:18 |
| asac | dont we? | 00:18 |
| asac | if i forgot to create karmic we should do that | 00:19 |
| asac | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird.jaunty | 00:19 |
| micahg | asac: yes, we do, so we don't need to keep a master for TB2 then? | 00:19 |
| asac | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird.intrepid | 00:19 |
| asac | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/thunderbird/thunderbird.hardy | 00:19 |
| asac | we havent created karmic yet | 00:19 |
| asac | so first thing is to push current .dev (or whatever revision reflects last upload) up | 00:20 |
| asac | set that to mature in launchpad and add a proper description (lke the others hopefully have (nor not have)) | 00:20 |
| asac | micahg: the branch is unversioned | 00:20 |
| asac | so tb3 is just a "major version upgrade" | 00:20 |
| asac | on that branch | 00:20 |
| asac | (which is what we always did before we introduced the version scheme for ffox and friends) | 00:20 |
| micahg | asac: right, I just wanted to make sure we don't need to keep a master TB2 branch, that's all | 00:21 |
| micahg | ok | 00:21 |
| asac | right | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | welcome skillman | 00:21 |
| asac | micahg: well. the idea is that .dev still has the currenct .dev in history | 00:21 |
| micahg | yes | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | asac: can you help skillman to repair his accidently removed NM packages? | 00:21 |
| asac | BUGabundo: not sure | 00:21 |
| skillman | =) | 00:21 |
| asac | sudo apt-get install network-manager | 00:21 |
| BUGabundo | something about probs with wifi, so I did a bit of a mess | 00:22 |
| micahg | asac: the next question is do we need a profile migrator like we had in FF35 | 00:22 |
| BUGabundo | asac: no network :) | 00:22 |
| asac | micahg: i think so. | 00:22 |
| BUGabundo | so he has to generate a script via synaptic, download on another PC | 00:22 |
| BUGabundo | and install localy | 00:22 |
| asac | micahg: though we havent put that in the archive | 00:22 |
| micahg | asac: ok, can I pull the code from FF35 and modify it? | 00:22 |
| asac | micahg: also the new location is probably similar to the 3.0 one | 00:22 |
| asac | ordidnt we use .thunderbird? | 00:22 |
| micahg | asac: I was going to ask if we should move from .mozilla-thunderbird to .thunderbird | 00:23 |
| asac | BUGabundo: he is gone | 00:23 |
| asac | guess he figured it ;) | 00:23 |
| skillman | sorry | 00:23 |
| asac | micahg: i thought we moved to .thunderbird as part of the 3.0 migration | 00:23 |
| BUGabundo | back | 00:23 |
| asac | skillman: what network do you have? | 00:23 |
| asac | skillman: how did it happen that you removed the package? | 00:24 |
| skillman | i went to the options in the network manager | 00:24 |
| skillman | and just deleted | 00:24 |
| skillman | every connection | 00:24 |
| asac | micahg: hmm. so seems we moved from .mozilla-thunderbird to .thunderbird-3.0 | 00:24 |
| skillman | than, I went to the software | 00:24 |
| asac | micahg: we can decide to ignore users that used dailies | 00:24 |
| skillman | and deleted the app | 00:24 |
| asac | or add the same migration as we did for ffox | 00:24 |
| micahg | asac:only in the PPA | 00:24 |
| micahg | asac: I'd like to do the same migration like in FF35 | 00:25 |
| asac | micahg: in any case we should move from .mozilla-thunderbird to .thunderbird (witthout asking) | 00:25 |
| asac | micahg: sure. | 00:25 |
| asac | micahg: you can copy the code over, modify it | 00:25 |
| asac | and hook it up to the startup script | 00:25 |
| micahg | asac: ok, so if only .m-t move it, if both, ask | 00:25 |
| asac | right | 00:25 |
| asac | default is to keep using .m-t | 00:25 |
| asac | as that is the supported ancenstor | 00:26 |
| asac | and we somehow consider the preview branches for "testing" ... even though they might use that only | 00:26 |
| skillman | asac: i went to the options in the network manager | 00:27 |
| skillman | asac: and just deleted | 00:27 |
| skillman | asac: every connection | 00:28 |
| skillman | asac: than, I went to the software manager and deleted de app | 00:28 |
| asac | skillman: but why would you do that? | 00:28 |
| skillman | asac: I know... I know... I'm new with this linux thing, and I was trying to understand why the wireless of my pc was always breaking down, than I downloaded some windows wireless drivers app, to install the original one of my oc, but that came with an error and all the network stopped working... | 00:30 |
| asac | cant you just reinstall and in future not do that ;) | 00:30 |
| asac | sounds like thats the least-support intensive way to get back to a normal state | 00:31 |
| skillman | asac: than, stupid of me, thought (i know you're going to laugh) I'm just gonna uninstall this, and than install it again... yeh right... but without internet how am I going to do this | 00:31 |
| skillman | sorry, back | 00:32 |
| skillman | I'm just so dumb that every time I want to close a window in the program of IRC I close everything... | 00:33 |
| asac | skillman: how did you first install? | 00:33 |
| asac | you should have a CD | 00:33 |
| asac | you can just use that to install ubuntu completely | 00:33 |
| skillman | asac: yes, I have the ubuntu 9.10 cd | 00:33 |
| skillman | yes | 00:33 |
| skillman | I thought of that | 00:33 |
| asac | skillman: so if you dont mind loosing your data ... just install it again | 00:34 |
| skillman | but I didn't want to have to pass all the files again | 00:34 |
| skillman | yes I will do that | 00:34 |
| asac | well. its less cost intensive for you to just install ;) | 00:34 |
| skillman | I just wanted to learn more | 00:34 |
| asac | skillman: well... so you can download the .deb | 00:34 |
| asac | and install it locally with dpkg -i ... | 00:34 |
| skillman | asac: I did that | 00:34 |
| skillman | asac: I did that | 00:34 |
| asac | however, what makes me think you shouldnt do that is that you installed the windows drive | 00:34 |
| asac | r | 00:34 |
| asac | that probably did something bad to your system | 00:34 |
| asac | which i would need to understand before i can help you ... but that takes too much time on my side ;) | 00:35 |
| skillman | asac: but in the console it doesn't identify the program installed | 00:35 |
| asac | not sure what that means ;) | 00:35 |
| asac | skillman: do you have the .deb files on your system? | 00:35 |
| asac | on the ubuntu system | 00:35 |
| asac | which ones? | 00:35 |
| asac | just one? many? | 00:35 |
| asac | you probably need more than one: e.g. network-manager network-manager-gnome libnm-util1 libnm-glib2 ... and modemmanager | 00:36 |
| asac | at least | 00:36 |
| skillman | asac: I have the network-manager_0.8~a~git.20091013t193206.deb | 00:36 |
| asac | if you hvae all those on your broken ubuntu install (e.g. through usb stick) ... run sudo dpkg -i /path/to/debs/*.deb | 00:36 |
| asac | skillman: yes. you need all the others i mentioned too | 00:36 |
| skillman | ok | 00:36 |
| skillman | just does | 00:37 |
| asac | skillman: however, that will probably not bring the net back as you still have the bogus driver on your system | 00:37 |
| skillman | I unistalled too | 00:37 |
| asac | so if you remember how you installed that, you might be able to find help how to uninstall that in #ubuntu | 00:37 |
| skillman | ok. | 00:37 |
| asac | skillman: yeah. so hope. install all the packages i mentioned using that command | 00:37 |
| asac | sudo dpkg -i /path/to/debs/*.deb | 00:37 |
| skillman | ok | 00:37 |
| skillman | got it | 00:37 |
| asac | and hope that after restart your net comes back ;) | 00:37 |
| asac | if it doesnt i think its easiert to install fresh | 00:37 |
| skillman | lool.. ok. if not I just install everything back again | 00:38 |
| asac | and next time if you want to learn stuff, break things != network ;) | 00:38 |
| skillman | yes | 00:38 |
| asac | everything else is probably easiert to learn :) | 00:38 |
| skillman | lool | 00:38 |
| asac | network is essential | 00:38 |
| skillman | yeh, I know... but the net was allways coming down | 00:38 |
| skillman | can you think of something | 00:38 |
| skillman | that could be causing that? | 00:38 |
| asac | skillman: what chipset do you have? | 00:39 |
| asac | what are the issue? regularly network latency? | 00:39 |
| asac | or droppage=? | 00:39 |
| skillman | how do I see that... (yes... newb to this point) | 00:39 |
| asac | thats almost cerainly a driver issue ... | 00:39 |
| asac | skillman: post lspci and lsusb output to paste.ubuntu.com | 00:39 |
| skillman | post lspci and lsusb output to paste.ubuntu.com if I only knew what this means | 00:40 |
| skillman | lol | 00:40 |
| skillman | I'm just so newb... I'm sorry | 00:40 |
| asac | skillman: paste.ubuntu.com is an address | 00:40 |
| asac | then type | 00:40 |
| asac | lsusb | 00:40 |
| asac | and put the output on that webpage (whcih should be self explanatory | 00:40 |
| asac | do the same for "lspci" command | 00:41 |
| asac | when you submit stuff there you get a link | 00:41 |
| asac | post that link here and we can look at your output | 00:41 |
| asac | hmm | 00:41 |
| asac | difficult without net | 00:41 |
| asac | lsmod | grep ath | 00:41 |
| asac | does that yield anything? | 00:41 |
| asac | skillman: you can also look at lspci output | 00:42 |
| asac | maybe you there is wifi or something | 00:42 |
| asac | in there | 00:42 |
| asac | that should give you a name | 00:42 |
| asac | so for me | 00:43 |
| asac | 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61) | 00:43 |
| asac | is one entry i get for lspci | 00:43 |
| asac | so its a "ntel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)" | 00:43 |
| asac | micahg: ok so where were we? | 00:43 |
| asac | or all clear on tb3? | 00:43 |
| skillman | ok, tks, gonna read and do | 00:43 |
| micahg | asac: well, I think I'm clear on it, I hope to have it done by next week | 00:43 |
| asac | micahg: take your time. on the other thing, have no feedback yet. will poke directly tomorrow | 00:45 |
| bdrung | asac: can you have a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/mozilla-devscripts/dh_xul-ext and convert the xpath commands into python code? | 00:45 |
| bdrung | asac: and we have to discuss the package meta data (Xb-Xul-AppId and Xb-Xul-Eol) | 00:46 |
| asac | found_duclicate = False | 00:47 |
| asac | at least consistent ;) | 00:47 |
| bdrung | ? | 00:48 |
| asac | bdrung: typo ;) | 00:50 |
| asac | bdrung: i think we should followlink ... and add the final destination to dictionary relying on unique constrained to filter out dupes | 00:50 |
| asac | rather than omitting all install.rdf links | 00:50 |
| asac | bdrung: what dom/xpath lib would you suggest for python? | 00:51 |
| bdrung | asac: what do we gain from following the symlinks? | 00:51 |
| asac | bdrung: we do it right ;) | 00:51 |
| asac | if we dont follow them we might omit valid linkis | 00:52 |
| asac | lnks | 00:52 |
| asac | e.g. it could be install.rdf -> install-myvariant.rdf | 00:52 |
| asac | which imo would work | 00:52 |
| asac | but we would omit as of now, right? | 00:52 |
| bdrung | asac: but then we have to depend on another package, which depends on the xul app | 00:52 |
| asac | not sure what you mean | 00:53 |
| asac | what links do you exactly omit? | 00:53 |
| bdrung | asac: now i get your point. | 00:53 |
| asac | i am not 100% sure i interpret the current code right. but it feels like we drop install.rdfs if they are links | 00:54 |
| bdrung | asac: we want to omit links pointing to different directories | 00:54 |
| asac | to something else | 00:54 |
| asac | assuming that the somthing else will always be called install.rdf thats valid | 00:54 |
| asac | yeah | 00:54 |
| asac | so basically we assume that everything found through a linki will be found otherwise | 00:54 |
| asac | which might not be true | 00:55 |
| asac | simple and most safe way is really to populate a set with unique constrained with all the realpaths... we autoamtically get _all_ install.rdfs | 00:55 |
| bdrung | asac: ok. i have added this to my todo list | 00:55 |
| asac | great | 00:55 |
| asac | so dom/xpath lib? | 00:55 |
| bdrung | asac: is there such a lib? | 00:56 |
| bdrung | asac: http://docs.python.org/library/xml.dom.minidom.html would be the included battery | 00:57 |
| bdrung | but is this dom library sufficient? | 00:57 |
| asac | i need a xpath lib ;) | 00:57 |
| asac | i assumed it would also be based on dom | 00:57 |
| asac | but could be other dom like variants | 00:57 |
| asac | bdrung: there is no xpath in that, right? | 00:57 |
| bdrung | no | 00:58 |
| asac | bdrung: maybe there even is a rdf lib? | 00:58 |
| bdrung | or yes, there is no xpath in it | 00:58 |
| asac | we basically used xpath because there exists no good rdf lib for command line | 00:58 |
| asac | so a real (most likelyl fully implemented) rdf lib would be preferred | 00:58 |
| asac | would prevent us to add all paths that can exists ;) | 00:58 |
| bdrung | http://www.google.de/search?q=python+rdf+lib&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:de:official&client=firefox-a | 00:58 |
| bdrung | there are some results | 00:59 |
| asac | is that in archive? | 00:59 |
| asac | python-librdf - Python language bindings for the Redland RDF library | 00:59 |
| asac | python-rdflib - RDF library containing an RDF triple store and RDF/XML parser/serializer | 00:59 |
| asac | k | 00:59 |
| asac | i will check that out. but definitly will take a bit - fighting various wars atm ;) | 00:59 |
| bdrung | asac: yes: python-rdflib | 01:00 |
| asac | lets hope that is more or less complete | 01:00 |
| asac | otherwise i already see that it just doesnt understand how mozilla is doing things ;) | 01:00 |
| * bdrung hopes it. | 01:00 | |
| asac | there are some awful impls of rdf out there ... they basically can read what they generate ... and all other formats are off ;) | 01:01 |
| asac | but great. | 01:01 |
| asac | feels like we can have a win from moving to python ;) | 01:01 |
| asac | i think evne you could write it with that ;) | 01:03 |
| asac | for row in g.query('SELECT ?aname ?bname WHERE { ?a foaf:knows ?b . ?a foaf:name ?aname . ?b foaf:name ?bname . }', | 01:03 |
| asac | i will check that ;) | 01:03 |
| asac | at least getting you the right queries | 01:04 |
| asac | what do we need? | 01:04 |
| asac | triples: (targetapp, min, max)? | 01:04 |
| bdrung | yes | 01:04 |
| bdrung | so a list of triples would be nice | 01:04 |
| asac | great i will try that tomorrow | 01:05 |
| bdrung | thanks | 01:06 |
| bdrung | asac: other topic: package meta data collection (in function get_xul_apps) | 01:06 |
| bdrung | we have to add Xul-AppId to all apps and Xul-Eol for all packages that have a eol | 01:07 |
| mbana | no sun java? | 01:07 |
| bdrung | asac: i Xul-AppId a good name? | 01:08 |
| bdrung | s/i/is | 01:08 |
| mbana | sun-java6-plugin: | 01:08 |
| mbana | Depends: sun-java6-bin (=6-15-1) but 6-16-0ubuntu1.9.04 is to be installed | 01:08 |
| micahg | mbana: for what? | 01:08 |
| mbana | firefox of course | 01:08 |
| mbana | i'm on karmic having updated | 01:08 |
| micahg | mbana: which version? | 01:08 |
| mbana | from jaunty | 01:08 |
| mbana | i shall _never_ updated again | 01:09 |
| asac | micahg: where did you upgrade to? | 01:10 |
| micahg | asac: ?? | 01:10 |
| mbana | from januty to karmic | 01:10 |
| asac | micahg: sorry | 01:10 |
| mbana | anyhow, any idea what's wrong with the plugin installation | 01:10 |
| micahg | mbana: what version of firefox? | 01:10 |
| mbana | default that comes with ubuunt | 01:10 |
| mbana | just firefox | 01:11 |
| mbana | i tihnk it's 3.5 | 01:11 |
| asac | micahg: it should just work | 01:11 |
| micahg | asac: no java in 3.6 and up at this point | 01:11 |
| mbana | Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-GB; rv:1.9.1.7pre) Gecko/20091212 Ubuntu/9.10 (karmic) Firefox/3.5.5 | 01:11 |
| asac | micahg: it was readded to 3.6 | 01:11 |
| asac | reed told me a few hours ago in this channel | 01:11 |
| micahg | mbana: I still have 6.16 on kamric | 01:11 |
| asac | not in 3.7 though | 01:11 |
| micahg | asac: which version of 3.6, I can't get it to work in beta 5 | 01:12 |
| asac | micahg: i think he says that he cannot install that | 01:12 |
| asac | and gets a upgrade problem | 01:12 |
| asac | but he didnt give any info | 01:12 |
| mbana | 6-16-0ubuntu1.9.04 | 01:12 |
| asac | but that line | 01:12 |
| asac | thats ok | 01:12 |
| mbana | it's confused | 01:12 |
| mbana | thinks i'm still on jaunty maybe | 01:12 |
| micahg | mbana: that's the one I have | 01:12 |
| micahg | mbana: what does 'dpkg -l | grep sun-java6-plugin' show? | 01:13 |
| mbana | nil | 01:13 |
| micahg | mbana: I have the jaunty java packages still as karmic was never updated to 6.16 | 01:13 |
| asac | thats ok | 01:14 |
| micahg | mbana: you need to install sun-java6-plugin if you want java | 01:15 |
| mbana | of course | 01:15 |
| mbana | but i cna't | 01:15 |
| micahg | mbana: but it won't work now :) | 01:15 |
| micahg | mbana: uninstall the rest of the java packages | 01:15 |
| dtchen | asac: 3.5.6 from the ppa/karmic tests fine for 3.0.15 existing profile migration, 3.5.5 existing profile migration, and 3.5.6 new profile | 01:15 |
| mbana | it refuses to install. and complains about missing dependencies | 01:15 |
| micahg | mbana: or grab the plugin from the jaunty repos | 01:15 |
| dtchen | asac: also tested addon updates, works there, too | 01:16 |
| mbana | <- confused | 01:16 |
| micahg | mbana: download the deb from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty-updates/sun-java6-plugin | 01:16 |
| mbana | so this is a known 'bug'? | 01:17 |
| mbana | thanks micahg | 01:17 |
| micahg | mbana: well, not exactly...java should have been updated for karmic, but they were talking about dropping it | 01:17 |
| asac | i think in lucid java moves to partner archive | 01:18 |
| mbana | out of interest, anyone have an imac? | 01:18 |
| micahg | yep | 01:18 |
| asac | no ;) | 01:18 |
| mbana | i think i'll get one for the LTS release and never update again | 01:18 |
| micahg | yep to asac, no to mbana :) | 01:18 |
| asac | imac is inferior material ;) | 01:19 |
| asac | oh | 01:19 |
| asac | not sure about imac | 01:19 |
| asac | though tabout macbooks | 01:19 |
| asac | they have crappy broadcom chipset for wifi ;) | 01:19 |
| asac | cheap and dirty stuff ;) | 01:19 |
| mbana | so many things are broken on my upgrade it's frustrating. mouse is constantly showing busy | 01:20 |
| mbana | some apps are showing that they're arne't installed, but actually are. c.f. open office | 01:20 |
| mbana | not installed but is | 01:20 |
| mbana | am i unlucky? | 01:20 |
| asac | guess your upgrade is not completely finished | 01:21 |
| asac | sudo apt-get update | 01:22 |
| asac | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 01:22 |
| asac | if that suggests to install more stuff then you are not done | 01:22 |
| micahg | [reed]: was oji restored everywhere in 1.9.2 or just OS X? | 01:23 |
| asac | micahg: everywhere | 01:24 |
| asac | thats what he said today | 01:24 |
| asac | 21:15 < asac> [reed]: sun java plugin uses old plugin api ... which afaik isnt there in 3.6+ | 01:25 |
| asac | 21:16 < [reed]> it's there in 3.6 | 01:25 |
| asac | 21:16 < asac> at least they used oij etc. | 01:25 |
| asac | 21:16 < [reed]> we put it back | 01:25 |
| micahg | asac: openjdk added npapi support, but only when built against xulrunner > 1.9.2 | 01:25 |
| asac | 21:16 < asac> oh ... great! | 01:25 |
| asac | 21:16 < [reed]> still gone in 3.7 | 01:25 |
| asac | micahg: ^^ | 01:25 |
| micahg | asac: I jsut pulled up the log | 01:25 |
| asac | > ? | 01:25 |
| asac | i thought its not yet completely finished in openjdk | 01:26 |
| asac | but even better then | 01:26 |
| asac | >= ? | 01:26 |
| micahg | asac: nope, it seems to have been added, yep, >= 1.9.2 | 01:26 |
| micahg | I tried to get it to builld, but I had some issues, I'll have to poke doko at some point to get some help with openjdk build... | 01:26 |
| micahg | well, I wanted to test it to see how complete it was, but apparently, there are a lot of references to xulrunner-1.9 in the debian build files | 01:39 |
| asac | micahg: dokos packages usually have everything in debian/rules directly | 01:42 |
| asac | e.g. he generates most control stuff on the fly | 01:42 |
| micahg | well, it was like 3AM when I looked at it, so maybe if I look earlier in the evening it'll be easier | 01:42 |
| asac | or rather during debian/rules clean | 01:43 |
| asac | i think | 01:43 |
| nigel_nb | need a little help with triaging a bug filed against firefox | 02:53 |
| asac | bdrung: committed stuff for you | 03:12 |
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| micahg | jdstrand: apparently there are some files missing in firefox-3.7 and the daily build failed | 06:45 |
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| BUGabundo_work | oias | 13:58 |
| fta | BUGabundo_work, file a bug :) | 13:58 |
| fta | i should welcome you like that everyday :) | 13:59 |
| * BUGabundo_work files fta up to his ears | 13:59 | |
| BUGabundo_work | :p | 13:59 |
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| fta | asac, d'oh! chromium-browser (4.0.272.0~svn20091215r34555 -> 4.0.272.0~svn20091216r34708) [95.20MB (+12348kB, +12.97%)] | 16:18 |
| asac | ouch | 16:19 |
| asac | thats really incredible | 16:19 |
| BUGabundo_work | fta: some one mess up ? lol | 16:21 |
| BUGabundo_work | or are they including debug stuff in there | 16:21 |
| fta | /data/bot/upstream/chromium-browser.svn/src/chrome/tools/test/reference_build/chrome_linux/* | 16:21 |
| fta | one more thing to drop | 16:22 |
| BUGabundo_work | yep | 16:22 |
| BUGabundo_work | tests | 16:22 |
| fta | tests i need to keep, but not reference_build | 16:22 |
| fta | well, i should keep our builds instead | 16:22 |
| fta | fixed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342796/ | 16:26 |
| micahg | fta: on the first bzr commit after a release, do I need a separate commit for the new snapsnot and the change | 17:07 |
| fta | micahg, it's always nice(r) to isolate the commit with just the version bump so it gives us a marker in the timeline | 17:29 |
| micahg | so, it should be a new changelog entry with nothing in it? | 17:29 |
| micahg | fta: ^^ | 17:30 |
| fta | yep, just d/changelog | 17:31 |
| fta | oh, you mean the .head wrt the dailies? | 17:31 |
| micahg | fta: yep | 17:31 |
| fta | well, even so, yes | 17:31 |
| micahg | fta: xul191 is fixed | 17:34 |
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| fta | d'oh, this time, not a netsplit, but my weekly disconnection :P | 17:57 |
| BUGabundo_work | ehe | 18:02 |
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| fta | chrome is now #3 thanks to the linux & mac betas, safari is now #4 | 18:32 |
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| moted | Interesting. After yesterdays daily update it seems as if the latest java plugin no longer works with Namorka. Works fine in Shritoko and Minefield for me. | 21:38 |
| micahg | moted: you sure it's after yesterday? | 21:41 |
| micahg | it doesn't work for me in 3.6 beta 5 | 21:41 |
| moted | yesterday it worked fine | 21:43 |
| moted | I updated this morning | 21:43 |
| moted | [UPGRADE] firefox-3.6 3.6~b6~hg20091213r33358+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~karmic -> 3.6~b6~hg20091216r33380+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1~karmic | 21:44 |
| micahg | moted: what version of 3.6 did you have before? | 21:44 |
| micahg | moted: idk | 21:47 |
| micahg | moted: there will be a working version in lucid :) | 21:48 |
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| moted | :) | 21:48 |
| moted | I just wanted to throw it out there | 21:48 |
| moted | Whenever you use daily builds your mileage may vary | 21:48 |
| micahg | yep | 21:48 |
| micahg | I just don't know why it would've worked before | 21:49 |
| moted | It literally worked until yesterday. | 21:49 |
| moted | I did however turn off the plugin compatibility options | 21:50 |
| micahg | moted: which version of the java plugin do you have? | 21:52 |
| moted | Java(TM) Plug-in 1.6.0_15 | 21:52 |
| micahg | and is it from the repos or did you manually install it? | 21:52 |
| moted | pretty sure It's from a PPA | 21:53 |
| micahg | moted: ah | 21:53 |
| BUGabundo | humm | 21:56 |
| BUGabundo | mid conversaion here | 21:56 |
| BUGabundo | but are we talking of java plugin? | 21:56 |
| BUGabundo | and PPA FF? | 21:56 |
| BUGabundo | only 3.5.x works | 21:57 |
| BUGabundo | .6 and .7 don't | 21:57 |
| moted | roger that | 21:57 |
| BUGabundo | I confirmed that yesterday with asac and [reed] | 21:57 |
| moted | I was just noting that until yesterdays build 3.6.x worked | 21:57 |
| moted | and 3.7.x seems to still work | 21:57 |
| BUGabundo | not to me | 21:57 |
| BUGabundo | won't even show | 21:57 |
| moted | yeah, you have to disable the compatibility check | 21:58 |
| fta | kenvandine, strange, gwibber stopped showing new dents 5 hours ago, yet, i still get the notifications | 22:10 |
| fta | i guess i should just kill it | 22:11 |
| BUGabundo | or close it | 22:11 |
| BUGabundo | and reopen | 22:11 |
| BUGabundo | its what I do | 22:11 |
| BUGabundo | I've run it in debug | 22:11 |
| BUGabundo | and found no common reason for it to die | 22:11 |
| BUGabundo | it can die after 10 mins | 22:11 |
| BUGabundo | or 5 h | 22:11 |
| BUGabundo | with no apperent reason | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | well I see one, but not very easy to test... | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | twitter api limit | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | but I don't think fta uses twitter | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | but I could be wrong | 22:12 |
| fta | nope, just identica, or whatever its new name is | 22:12 |
| BUGabundo | identica is the server | 22:13 |
| BUGabundo | statusnet is the code | 22:13 |
| fta | no update in 18 days.. hm | 22:14 |
| fta | dead trunk? | 22:15 |
| BUGabundo | ehe | 22:17 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: I'll get a Java plugin working on > 3.6 sometime this cycle | 22:26 |
| BUGabundo | "sometimes" | 22:26 |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 22:26 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: you running lucid? | 22:26 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: not yet | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | aint it a bit to soon for you ? | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | ahhh | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | ehe | 22:27 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: I have a PPA, I can push for any release :) | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | ehehe | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | you control the world | 22:27 |
| BUGabundo | you run unstable ahah | 22:27 |
| fta | i'll need a working java + certs pretty soon to declare my taxes | 22:28 |
| BUGabundo | no more releases... just rolling distro | 22:28 |
| BUGabundo | fta: +1 | 22:28 |
| BUGabundo | I forgot about that | 22:28 |
| BUGabundo | ahah | 22:28 |
| micahg | fta: you just need to get openjdk to compile against xul-1.9.2-dev | 22:28 |
| BUGabundo | I use sun java | 22:29 |
| micahg | if you need it sooner than I can do it | 22:29 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: you're out of luck than :) | 22:29 |
| BUGabundo | only one that runs ok with android sdk | 22:29 |
| BUGabundo | micahg: why? | 22:29 |
| micahg | BUGabundo: unless Sun is going to migrate from oji to npapi | 22:29 |
| BUGabundo | ? | 22:30 |
| micahg | the plugin architecture changed in 3.6 for most platforms AFAICT | 22:30 |
| micahg | for sure in 3.7, but I can't find anything to the contrary in 3.6 | 22:31 |
| fta | seems i have both gcj and sun java 5, so it worked last year with one of those as i don't use java for anything else | 22:31 |
| micahg | fta: it was removed in april 2009 | 22:34 |
| fta | http://identi.ca/notice/16868474 | 22:47 |
| BUGabundo | eeh | 22:49 |
| fta | BUGabundo, http://www.sofaraway.org/ubuntu/tmp/chromium-popcon-20091216.png | 23:23 |
| * BUGabundo checks | 23:23 | |
| BUGabundo | eheh | 23:24 |
| BUGabundo | chrome dropped after beta came out | 23:24 |
| BUGabundo | but put togheter is more the chromium | 23:24 |
| fta | yep, 25k vs 26k | 23:24 |
| BUGabundo | :( | 23:25 |
| BUGabundo | stupid users | 23:25 |
| BUGabundo | I guess google brand still accounts for a lot | 23:27 |
| fta | indeed. i don't mind, it's not yet a million in a week ;) | 23:31 |
| fta | we should compare again when it's in a release | 23:31 |
| BUGabundo | fta: you are so right | 23:52 |
| BUGabundo | darn funny | 23:52 |
| BUGabundo | "latent sexual feelings" | 23:52 |
| BUGabundo | ahaha | 23:52 |
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