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trimasterall the dvd-burners at directron.com work right out of the box on linux.00:00
dante123<apocalypt> i can try that...but don't they essentially do the same thing.....and since there is no legacy grub on my system (9.10 was fresh install)...sudo update grub is the same as update grub2...but I will try00:00
brad_apocalypt hardware00:00
apocalyptbrad_: i guess every normal cd burner works . what u are looking for00:01
EastDallasguyster: what mp3 player?00:01
brad_well my poineer dvd burner would not work at all00:01
dante123DasEi the 9.04 is installed on second partition....and i never installed the bootloader when I installed it so that it would not overwrite my 9.10 bootloader...00:01
guysterI have a sansa e260 (4 gb mp3 player).  When I plug it in, I'm unable to see it in places.  Is there a way I can fix that?00:01
trimasterbrad: is it dead?00:01
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sebsebsebdante123: dual booting 9.10 and 9.04?00:02
brad_it dont seem to be but I have no other way of testing it00:02
EastDallasguyster: does it show up as a mountable drive?00:02
DasEidante123: grub --version  to get the version, 9.04 is jaunty is legacy, 9.10 is grub2 in a fresh install00:02
dante123sebsebseb basically yes, I have 9.10 on partition one.....installed 9.04 derivative (Jolicloud) on second partition.....did not install bootloader when doing that so it would not overwrite 9.10 version.....00:03
loshabrad_: start with the basics. What does dmesg | egrep -i cd-rom say?00:03
guysterI don't think so.  It's not in places/computer.  How else would I be able to tell?00:03
racecar56i have GRUB legacy installed, and upgraded to GRUB 2. now, it has new entries about "Chainload into GRUB 2". if i select it, it says "Error 11: Unrecognized device string". how do i fix this?00:03
sebsebsebdante123: ok so I guess you need to edit the file for Grub 2 so it can boot up 9.04 as well or something.  By the way why are you dual booting the two versions?00:04
brad_losha i dont have it hooked up but i could if you walk me through it00:04
dante123then I rebooted into 9.10 and ran "sudo update-grub" and it added Jolicloud entry....but when I try to run the entyr I get..00:04
apocalyptdante123: if u are install the bootloader on another disk is would't override the grub00:04
dante123<apocalypt> you mean install the bootloader on the second partition with 9.04 derivative00:04
brad_losha: I will hook it up and reboot. would you walk me through it ?00:05
EastDallasguyster: check the USB mode on the e260. It must be MSC (Settings > USB Mode > MSC).00:05
loshabrad_: well, lets start with the basics. Is it IDE, Sata or usb?00:05
brad_ide00:05
dante123sebsebseb really like the Jolicloud for my daughter....cloud based, facebook etc.  nice interface too (like UNR but even slicker I feel)00:05
sebsebsebdante123: jolicloud???00:06
brad_losha : ide00:06
apocalyptdante123: yeah. i guess it starts with bootloader from the first disk so it shouldn't be effect anything if u install grub from 9.04 on another disk00:06
loshabrad_: ok, do you know how to connect it up?00:06
guysterIt is.  Has to be msc to run rockbox, so I know it is definitely set to msc.00:06
brad_yeah but should it be set on master or slave?00:06
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Mike_lifeguardIs there a PPA where I can get Thunderbird 3?00:07
dante123<apocalypt> you mean if I hadnt told it not to install bootloader...it would have installed it into 9.04 partition and would not have hurt my 9.10 install?00:07
apocalyptMike_lifeguard: yeah there is00:07
loshabrad_: is it the only thing on the ide cable, or is there something else on the cable?00:07
brad_i mean the actual dvd burner jumper settings00:08
dante123but when I first chose the second partition to install 9.04...it asks for the file system...I chose ext4...and the mount point...which I put as /00:08
thorsten11hello hello00:08
dante123would installing the bootloader have messed up booting 9.10 on first partition???00:08
sebsebsebdante123: Ext4 in 9.04 hmm00:08
sebsebsebdante123: well in your case something based on 9.0400:08
EastDallasYou don't see it under the places menu?  It should show up as a flash drive.00:08
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berrybarryhello thorsten1100:09
dante123sebsebseb....lots of questions from you......any ideas?00:09
Mike_lifeguardapocalypt: do you happen to have a link handy?00:09
EastDallasguyster: You don't see it under the places menu?  It should show up as a flash drive.00:09
loshabrad_: I understand. An ide cable supports one master and one slave. So the jumper settings will depend on whether there's something else on the cable or not and what the other thing is set to...00:09
epinkyMike_lifeguard: Karmic?00:09
Mike_lifeguardyea00:09
brad_i have another set to slave00:09
sebsebsebdante123: Anyway in Ubuntu 9.04, Ext4 is not properly stable, because of the kernel they have and such.  Well it's been fine for me with 9.04.00:09
dante1231st partition = 9.10 with grub2,  2nd partition= swap file, 3rd partition= 9.04 derivative (jolicloud)00:09
fogrideri got a problem with a computer unable to install ubuntu desktop 9.10 .  i boot to the cd. Select English as language, then select install. I get the ubuntu symbol in the middle of the screen and that's it.00:10
apocalyptdeb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu karmic main Mike_lifeguard00:10
dante123when i first boot...grub shows both OS'es...but I cannot boot into the second (9.04 Joli) one00:10
loshabrad_: if you already have a slave, the other device i.e. this dvd burner, must be set to master...00:10
racecar56how do i make GRUB re-detect the operating systems? i cannot access Ubuntu on there because i have to update the entries in order to be able to do that...00:10
Mike_lifeguardapocalypt, epinky: thanks00:10
brad_ok  ill be back00:10
dante123sebsebseb http://www.jolicloud.com/00:11
spiffmanracecar56 /usr/sbin/update-grub will find your installed kernels and put them in the grub menu00:11
loshabrad_: ok, don't do this without shutting down your system first, ok?00:11
epinkyMike_lifeguard: http://pastebin.com/ma889a5b00:11
fogrideranybody have any ideas?00:11
sebsebsebdante123: yeah thanks :)  something I can vm00:11
racecar56spiffman: i can't get ubuntu to boot, that's the problem.00:11
apocalyptdante123: normally grub will be installed on the first disk automatically. if u install grub from 9.04 on the root disk of 9.04 it should effect the grub on the first disk. after that make a update-grub2 on karmic partition00:11
sebsebsebdante123: plus I quite like Ubuntu 9.04, except a thing or two00:11
spiffmanracecar56 so you get to grub menu and you have no working OS to boot into?00:11
racecar56spiffman: right.00:12
apocalypt*shouldn't00:12
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cryevilhola00:12
racecar56spiffman: they all say "Error 11: Unrecognized device string"00:12
cryevilhola00:12
sebsebseb!es |  cryevil00:12
berrybarrycryevil how old are you00:12
ubottucryevil: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.00:12
spiffmanracecar56 probably should get a liveCD and reinstall or reconfigure grub, there are extensive howto's on that00:12
guysterEastDallas, no, it's not there.  The only drives I see there are my dvd-rom, reader and my usb card reader, no mp3 or flash drive-like entry.  Now if I do plug in my flash drive, that actually does show up.00:12
cheesepoopI need a suggestion for a good nzb downloader00:12
fogrideri got a problem with a computer unable to install ubuntu desktop 9.10 .  i boot to the cd. Select English as language, then select install. I get the ubuntu symbol in the middle of the screen and that's it.00:12
apocalyptfogrider: try the cd with the alternate installer00:13
fogriderhow do you mean?00:13
loshafogrider: how long did you wait. The logo goes up while it loads. Bad choice by the developers, since you can't see what's going on.00:13
fogriderhours....00:14
Yon-00:14
epinkyfogrider: does your machine meet minimum requirements?00:14
fogriderapocalypt: what do you mean?00:14
apocalyptfogrider: there i few versions ob ubuntu CDs. one is the alternate00:14
fogriderlosha: hours....00:14
racecar56spiffman: i found a working windows XP install, would that be of any use to fix it?00:14
loshafogrider: switch to 8.04 instead then....00:14
EastDallasguyster:  did you install rockbox using ubuntu?00:14
fogriderepinky:    i believe so... penium d 2.80 with 2 gig of ram.   ran windows vista00:14
arctic_importis libnss-ldap broken in 9.10?  I cannot get it to work at all, I 've installed configured and when running a getent passwd it doesn't even attempt to contact my ldap server (i'm sniffing it with wireshark) what could I be missing?00:15
spiffmanracecar56 probably not... the livecd includes grub, and supports ext3. windows has a hard time reading/writing to linux partitons00:15
apocalyptfogrider: x86 or x64?00:15
racecar56fogrider: geez, my oldest comp which is much lower quality than yours runs 9.10 just fine (except for some intel video driver madness)00:15
loshafogrider: switch to 8.04 instead then. If 8.04 won't boot, you know you have a serious hardware incompatibility....00:16
spiffmanracecar56 this might help http://www.daniweb.com/forums/thread217995.html#00:16
fogriderapocalypt   x8600:16
EastDallasguyster: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/345916  Check out the instrux in comment #700:16
abuqutaitahey all, i have a question regarding partitioning for a file server00:16
guysterYes, way back in Ubuntu feisty.  Worked perfectly up through intrepid.  When we hit Jaunty it stopped.  Haven't tried Karmic, but kind of afraid to, since I depend on stable audio.00:16
abuqutaitathere's 4 HDDs i want to use for server storage00:16
abuqutaitais there a way to span a single volume across all 4?00:17
Snausageswhen do we get lascivious loon or whatever it is?00:17
racecar56spiffman: k. i have 9.04 installed and i have a kubuntu 9.04 USB stick too, but i don't know what to do. i tried the grub prompt method and it doesn't help00:17
maco!lucid | Snausages00:17
ubottuSnausages: Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+100:17
abuqutaitathey are differing sizes (160, 250, 250, 320gb)00:17
erUSUL!lvm | abuqutaita00:17
ubottuabuqutaita: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto00:17
Retro198909losha: i got it hooked up and set on master00:17
abuqutaitaoo, thx00:17
Mike_lifeguardHow do you set different priorities for apt repositories?00:17
abuqutaitahow dogdy is software raid00:18
loshaRetro198909: open a terminal and type: dmesg | egrep -i cd-rom00:18
quietoneI'd like to return to the sound preferences used in 9.04. How do I?00:18
Snausagesabuqutaita: fairly...  depends on what it's serving00:18
spiffmanracecar56 ok so you can boot from the usb stick and get into a console?00:18
racecar56spiffman: yes00:18
facility`hi00:18
Snausagesabuqutaita: also depends on what disks you're using and what firmware they're running00:18
racecar56facility`: hi00:18
abuqutaitaall WD disks00:19
spiffmanracecar56 and you can see your linux partitions using 'sudo fdisk -l' ?00:19
erUSULabuqutaita: for what you want use lvm00:19
racecar56spiffman: let me try that (im not booted in the USB stick so just wait a bit)00:19
abuqutaitais there a better solution than software raid?00:19
erUSULabuqutaita: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO00:19
Snausagesabuqutaita: were they sold as server or consumer disks?00:19
spiffmanracecar56 sure thing00:19
facility`hi, i got a problem, my system says that FastUserSwitchApplet could not be loaded. I installed pidgin and uninstalled empathy. my system is ubuntu 9.10, can you help me?00:19
lorenzo_the "new im-message" icon is now showing in karmic. it may sound trivial but i'd like to fix it. any help on how to do it? thanks a lot everyone00:19
abuqutaitaconsumer disks00:19
Retro198909losha: i got "Usage: dmesg [-c] [-n level] [-s bufsize]"00:19
abuqutaitawd caviar00:19
abuqutaitai'm assuming lvm is better00:20
aryola00:20
facility`(i started using linux 3 days ago, got not much knowledge :) )00:20
loshaRetro198909: you typed it wrong. Cut & paste the line I typed00:20
Retro198909losha: I also have another optical drive which works00:20
arysdsd00:20
berrybarryfacility linux is fun :)00:20
jonzbcccould someone using gnome try `nautilus ./` (while in some directory other than home), and tell me if they also get the following errors on console, even though everything seems fine: (nautilus:14595): Eel-CRITICAL **: eel_preferences_get_boolean: assertion `preferences_is_initialized ()' failed00:21
EastDallasguyster: this exactly describes your problem worked in intrepid, broken in Jaunty: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgphoto2/+bug/35599800:21
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Retro198909losha: I cant copy and paste00:21
berrybarryfacility theirs crossover office :P00:21
phantomcircuitso guys00:21
Retro198909losha: im using xchat and I cant figure out how to copy00:22
phantomcircuiti have a reproducible crash from the nvidia binary drivers00:22
NooneshereHello. Sorry if you all have seen to much of me today, but i really need someone to help me with my boot manager. I am afraid that if we mess with it much more it will break. So can anyone try to help me?00:22
phantomcircuitwhen 3d acceleration is used00:22
gerzelHey is there a way to make nautilus do multipaned windows?  Ie veiw two tabs side by side w/o creating a new nautilus window?00:22
gerzelIt seems to have everything else, but that.00:22
facility`berrybarry : by now i think there are some small things i dont like. things where i think: not to much to have that problem fixed :)00:22
spiffmanphantomcircuit elaborate00:22
jonzbccNooneshere: just ask the question00:23
loshaRetro198909: try it again: dmesg | egrep -i cd-rom   <-- that's a pipe symbol after dmesg (shift + \ character on my keyboard)00:23
phantomcircuitspiffman, running glxgears causes Xorg to use 100% of cpu time00:23
facility`i spend much time to switch the "bongo" sound off when the system is ready :) for example00:23
Quan-Timehow can i list the device id of my usb hdd caddy ?00:23
racecar56spiffman: finally in a terminal now00:23
phantomcircuitspiffman, firefox using pixmap support causes artifacting00:23
berrybarryfacility ha its so customizable linux :) so many themes online00:23
phantomcircuitspiffman, it's super duper weird00:23
NooneshereJonzbcc:I did. I need help fixing my grub, so it sees windows.00:24
spiffmanracecar56 you can see the harddisks with linux?00:24
racecar56spiffman: let me try now00:24
jonzbccQuan-Time: fdisk -l (you'll need to be elevated priveleges)00:24
facility`so do you know anything about my pdigin /empathy / fastuserswitch -problem00:24
Retro198909losha: I got "[    5.100072] scsi 5:0:0:0: CD-ROM            PIONEER  DVD-RW  DVR-117D 1.07 PQ: 0 ANSI: 500:24
Retro198909[    5.193504] Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.2000:24
Retro198909[    5.193567] sr 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr000:24
Retro198909[    5.194724] scsi 5:0:1:0: CD-ROM            ATAPI    DVD C  DH52C2P   MP58 PQ: 0 ANSI: 500:24
FloodBot1Retro198909: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.00:24
spiffmanphantomcircuit that's pretty strange... shouldn't be using CPU if you have an nvidia card00:24
spiffmanphantomcircuit at least not 100%00:24
jonzbccNooneshere: the problem is, it doesn't see windows?00:25
loshaRetro198909: that's good. It means it sees your cd-rom as /dev/sr0. Does eject /dev/sr0 open the tray?00:25
spiffmanphantomcircuit you installed them through apt?00:25
jonzbccNooneshere: you installed ubuntu after windows was installed?00:25
spiffmandrivers i mean00:25
NooneshereJonzbcc: Yes. And i have done about five different ways so far. and windows after ubuntu.00:25
Retro198909losha: yes00:25
phantomcircuitspiffman, that's not the half of it though, i ctrl+alt+f1 to a normal tty and kill glxgears, when i ctrl+alt+f7 back xorg is all screwed up and stuff is green and crap00:25
racecar56spiffman: yees00:26
phantomcircuitspiffman, i installed the drivers using the hardware driver thing under administration00:26
loshaRetro198909: so far so good. eject -t /dev/sr0 to close the tray. Now what do you want to burn?00:26
racecar56spiffman: the delay was because i was setting up a ssh server on the live USB stick so now i can remote control it from this comp00:26
Quan-Timecheers jonzbcc00:26
NooneshereJonzbcc: could i just do menu.lst and would that fix it all on its own/00:27
Crash1hdI am stuck and this used to work I am trying to run the command sudo tune2fs -L new /dev/sdc and I am getting the following error tune2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdc; Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.00:27
spiffmanracecar56 lol nice. ok can you mount the linux partition-in-question?00:27
mMezquitaleNooneshere, are you using karmic?  menu.lst is no more in grub2, it's actually a lot easier in grub200:27
racecar56spiffman: i'll try mounting my root partition now.00:27
racecar56spiffman: it works without errors00:28
loshaCrash1hd: does it fsck?00:28
jonzbccNooneshere: okay, given your current is ubuntu installed last, could you post your menu.lst to a pastebin so we can see it00:28
Crash1hdlosha: yes00:28
NooneshereMezquitale:No i am waiting for Linux Pro magazine to include it with them, since my internet is too slow to download Distros or major updates.00:28
jonzbccNooneshere: what do you mean "do" menu.lst?00:28
NooneshereJonzbcc: Just edit it, no other changes. I am afraid much more linux interference i will break it.00:29
abuqutaitaif i do software raid+lvm, i'll be limited to the size of the smallest HDD?00:29
NooneshereJonzbcc: Here it is. http://pastebin.com/m10fb61cd00:29
racecar56spiffman: anything else i should try?00:29
Retro198909losha: its not mounting a blank or dvd00:29
loshaCrash1hd: something unsual about this filesystem you haven't told us?00:29
spiffmanracecar56 ok good, so now you can edit the /boot/menu.lst (assuming its grub, not grub2), as far as update-grub hold on i'm going to double-check so i don't give you bad advice :P00:29
Crash1hdlosha: not that I am aware of00:30
MeXTuXI need help! I am playing some windows multiplayer games with wine and everytime I want to play need to type this on a terminal: sudo ipx_interface add -p eth0 802.2 0x12345678. Can it be done automatically??? Tnx in advance00:30
Crash1hdlosha: running fsck now and it says /dev/sda4: recovering journal00:30
Crash1hdlosha: how long does that normally take?00:30
loshaRetro198909: you can't mount blanks. And some dvds are encrypted00:30
jonzbccNooneshere: i'm having a bit of trouble understanding (eg. "linux interference", do you mean programs in linux are editing that file?)... either way, the general practice is to make a backup copy of a working bootable config, so that you can always rescue your system (with a live cd) and push the working backed-up config into place00:30
jonzbccNooneshere: just a sec while I go look at that00:31
loshaCrash1hd: it's proportional to the disk size. How big is the disk?00:31
justine777wI am having problems with my computer. I need to run fsck but I do not know how. Can someone please help me?00:31
loshaRetro198909: I recommend you install k3b. It's the best burning program.00:31
Retro198909losha: my liteon drive mounts blanks00:31
racecar56spiffman: i chrooted and i am installing grub now (it was a jammed upgrade from grub to grub2) :D let me see if THIS helps....00:31
Crash1hddepends on which disk its refering to but if its the sda disk its 1.5 terrabites00:31
racecar56spiffman: i chrooted into the root partition00:31
NooneshereJonzbcc: Its not that, i've been pounding at that parition all day, i'm afraid it will lock up or corrupt. And thank you.00:31
spiffmanracecar56  ok perfect i was just looking up chroot because i haven't used it in awhile00:32
racecar56spiffman: ok00:32
abuqutaitais this true?00:32
SIGBAAMhi. what is the default device name for the parallel port in ubuntu?00:32
loshaRetro198909: I dunno what that means. By definition, a blank has no file system on it, therefore there's nothing to 'mount'....00:32
Crash1hdlosha: depends on which disk its refering to but if its the sda disk its 1.5 terrabites00:32
widgethey guys, i install ubuntu 8.04 on an old laptop, but the touchpad doesn't seem to work at all...any  ideas ?00:32
EastDallasguyster:  any luck?00:32
phantomcircuitspiffman, apparently when x went down it took down my wifi00:32
jonzbccNooneshere: it looks like you just need to add a menu option in for your windows partition00:32
Retro198909losha: a icon on the desktop shows a blank cd00:32
KittyBootsI am verry annoyed with hardware vendors not supporting Linux00:32
racecar56spiffman: alright i update-grubbed in the chroot.00:33
Marcos_BaianoOi00:33
justine777wHello I am new to this room, can someone please message me? i need help with my computer.00:33
Marcos_BaianoBoa noite00:33
jonzbccNooneshere: do you know which disk/partitino number its on? you can view that with `sudo fdisk -l`00:33
loshaCrash1hd:it can take 40 minutes to fsck a disk that big00:33
racecar56spiffman: i think this will work :D00:33
maco!pt | Marcos_Baiano00:33
ubottuMarcos_Baiano: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.00:33
NooneshereJonzbcc: Really? How do i do that? i think it is sda100:33
KittyBootsjustine777w: what's happening babes?00:33
spiffmanracecar56 ok well theoretically grub should work now.. if the boot still fails it might be the ubuntu installation00:33
phantomcircuitjustine777w, it's better to just ask your question in the main channel00:33
EastDallasjustine777w, explain your problem here00:33
mMezquitalejustine777w, you need to create a live CD if you want to use fsck, say in your "/" partition, any hard drive that you use fsck must not be mounted, that is why I recommend for you to use a live CD unless you know what youre doing00:33
racecar56spiffman: the install was a mini 9.04, and it is mostly fresh00:33
sebsebseb!ask |  justine777w00:33
ubottujustine777w: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)00:33
phantomcircuitmMezquitale, uh or create /forcefsck00:34
justine777wHi kittyboots and eastdallas - i need to fsck my computer but i do not know how00:34
NooneshereJonzbcc: Aha, SDA200:34
loshaRetro198909: Ah, technically, that's not a 'mount'. It's just a nautilus trick. I recommend you try k3b00:34
racecar56justine777w: fsck /dev/sda maybe00:34
phantomcircuitjustine777w, `sudo touch /forcefsck` then reboot00:34
Crash1hdlosha: well that was alot faster then I thought lol its done it said that it had a few things it recovered00:34
spiffmanracecar56 awesome, cross your fingers and let grub do its thing :D00:34
justine777wphantom- use terminal?00:34
Retro198909losha: I tried using kb3 and it said I no blank cd when in fact i did00:34
racecar56spiffman: it's rebooting now00:34
loshaCrash1hd: see if tune2fs works now...00:34
Crash1hdlosha: it says that both sda4 and sda2 are clean00:35
phantomcircuitjustine777w, yes use a terminal00:35
Crash1hdlosha: nope same error00:35
racecar56spiffman: it works :D00:35
spiffmanracecar56 :) good stuff00:36
loshaCrash1hd: did /dev/sdc get fsked?00:36
racecar56spiffman: yay for chroot00:36
jonzbccNooneshere: read this page, it explains much better than I could via this irc (also it explains what each line (of the 5) means, so you can be sure its right for you: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grubconf-for-windows-vista-or-xp-dual-boot/00:36
Crash1hdlosha: no just sda2 and sda400:36
* spiffman drinks to chroot00:37
loshaCrash1hd: but its /dev/sdc you're trying to label, right?00:37
NooneshereJonzbcc: Thank you so much Jonzbcc, you have been a good help.00:37
Crash1hdlosha: yes00:37
loshaCrash1hd: force an fsck on /dev/sdc e.g. fsck -f /dev/sdc00:37
jonzbccNooneshere: no problem :)00:37
NooneshereJonzbcc: One last question sadly, where do i put it? Anywhere or at the top or bottom?00:38
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Crash1hdhmmm00:38
Retro198909losha: it did not see my blank cd00:38
jonzbccthe order in which they're listed in your config file is the order they'll show up when you boot your computer. so if you want your windows option to be the first in the list (on boot) then, but your windows stuff first00:38
phantomcircuitNooneshere, btw i suspect that what you want is `grub-install --recheck --install`00:39
jonzbccNooneshere: ^00:39
loshaRetro198909: well all burners should basically work the same, there's no special trick. Either your burner is broken, or possibly the cable is faulty?00:39
spurnone2i need help switching my netboot remix desktop to classic mode. the desktop switcher is not install and can not be downloaded. any suggestions?00:39
NooneshereJonzbcc: No the aritcle you linked me, do i insert the code? Can it be anywhere in the file?00:39
loshaCrash1hd: what kind of filesystem is it, btw?00:39
Crash1hdlosha: its ext3 and it says that its in use00:40
jonzbccright, that code is what represents the "windows" boot option in your config file00:40
Retro198909losha: i dont see how since my lite on drive works on the same cable00:40
robert__hi i am having trouble installing a modem on this box - i am clueless about linux but i have tried using the CD rom with the install00:40
Crash1hdlosha: Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program <--is what it says00:40
jonzbccNooneshere: did you see my "the order in which.." message? (I forgot to address it to you, scroll up and see)00:40
loshaCrash1hd: yes, you need to unmount it first. You might need to boot into single user mode if you can't unmount it00:41
Crash1hdlosha: right00:41
phantomcircuitNooneshere, dont edit the grub menu manually get grub-install to recheck for new OSs00:41
spurnone2Is there anyway to switch desktop mode to classic in ubuntu netbook remix 9.10??00:41
Crash1hdlosha: umount: /dev/sdc is not mounted (according to mtab)00:41
loshaRetro198909: then that just leaves a faulty burner. They do go bad you know. All those high-precision moving parts...00:41
NoonesherePhantomcircuit, i have done so, twice already, with no avail.00:41
jonzbccNooneshere: do you understand what I mean, now?00:42
Retro198909losha: its like brand new00:42
NooneshereJonzbcc: No clue. But i am rebooting, i hope it works..00:42
sahil_skhey, which language is best for gui? and how one novice like me jump into gui designing?00:42
abuqutaitaam i limited by the size of my smallest HDD for a software raid?00:42
jonzbcc...okay good luck to him00:42
sahil_sk?00:43
Jesus_\exit maranhao00:43
Jesus_uehuhe00:43
loshaCrash1hd: your system seems to be behaving a little oddly. If you have anything valuable on /dev/sdc I'd back it up now. Then boot to single-user mode and force an fsck on it. The messages you're seeing aren't normal. I'm worried the file system is corrupted...00:43
sahil_skgui designing ?00:43
git__Muhammad rules the world00:43
jonzbcccan someone with gnome please try: `cd ~/Desktop; nautilus ./` and tell me if they get error messages00:43
Crash1hdlosha: thats always good lol hmm I wouldnt even know this if it wasnt the fact that I just wanted to rename the drive00:44
robert__are there any resources that document how to install a modem - or has a copy of the scanmodem program?00:44
loshaRetro198909: return it to the store? Or try it in another machine00:44
Crash1hdlosha: how do I boot into single user mode?00:44
phixSlart: Did you find any more information on finding out the boot time?00:44
jonzbcchello? someone please try the command for me?00:45
loshaCrash1hd: what os version are you running?00:45
Retro198909losha: I dont have another pc to test it on00:45
phixSlart: :D /var/log/kern.log.1:Dec  7 10:40:13 backupserver kernel: [15222636.581238] usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 10300:46
Retro198909losha: I got it from newegg but I should be able to rma since I had a 2 year warranty00:46
phixSlart: thnx buddy00:46
Crash1hdlosha: well I would tell you but the about doesnt seem to want to load properly00:46
phixSlart: you are way more helpful than LjL :)00:46
loshaRetro198909: use a friends? There aren't a lot of alternative ways to test hardware....00:46
loshaCrash1hd: your system doesn't sound very healthy. I'm worried. Open a terminal and type cat /etc/issue00:47
tvaughni am unable to login to gnome on ubuntu 9.10 any ideas00:47
phixtvaughn: Can you be a bit more vague?00:48
Crash1hdlosha: that returns Ubuntu 9.04 \n \l00:48
tvaughnit crashes00:48
phixtvaughn: yeah, that sucks00:48
phixtvaughn: Can you access the log files?00:48
tvaughnwhat can i do to remedy the situation00:48
tvaughnwhich ones00:48
yellowroosterhi, i put in a dvd into my drive but i can't play the move00:48
phixtvaughn: /var/log/syslog is always helpful00:48
yellowroostermovie00:48
phixtvaughn: so is /var/log/kern.log00:48
yellowroosteri followed the steps on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs00:49
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phixtvaughn: can you login as console?00:49
tvaughnyes00:49
loshaCrash1hd: ok, so when you reboot, you press escape and should get a grub menu. Select the first entry that says 'single' or recovery. That should get you a boot prompt where you can fsck any disk00:49
yellowroosteri installed  libdvdread4. then i did  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh00:49
joshjjjjhi folks, can anyone tell me how to add a biosflash.img (an image to upgrade bios) to grub2 ? I just cant get it.00:49
phixtvaughn: ok so your X is failing to start? so your computer isnt crashing just the Graphical login screen?00:49
joshjjjjplease00:49
phixtvaughn: that is a bit more helpful then It crashes00:49
Crash1hdlosha: ok there is a command on shutdown that checks the drives as well (what is that command again?) wouldnt mind runnig it first00:49
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spiffmanyellowrooster tried using vlc?00:50
tvaughnphix: not entirely sure00:50
yellowroosterspiffman: yes00:50
justine777wE: Unable to write mmap - msync (28 No space left on device)00:50
justine777wE: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.00:50
justine777wE: _cache->open() failed, please report.00:50
yellowroosterok. it seems to be working now spiffman.00:50
tvaughnit works underfailsafe00:50
yellowroosterweird00:50
robert__is there somewhere to get a copy of scanmodem?00:50
phixtvaughn: oh so you dont know ifyou can see the graphical login screen?  Are you visually impared?00:50
spiffmanyellowrooster lol awesome, that was quick00:50
LjLjustine777w: that seems to be saying that your hard drive is full...?00:50
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robert__is there somewhere to get a copy of scanmodem?00:50
loshaCrash1hd: you can do: touch /forcefsck in 8.04. Dunno if it still works in 9.04 though....00:51
blooddiamondhi00:51
jonzbccsomeone try: `cd ~/Desktop; nautilus ./` -if you use gnome, and tellme if you get errors?00:51
tvaughnthe graphical login screen is there, you try to login and it tries to load then crashes back to the graphical login screen00:51
phixtvaughn: ok00:51
yellowroosterspiffman: yeah. and i did nothing between time it did not work and time it now works.00:51
yellowroosterspiffman: thanks!00:51
yellowroostertime to enjoy the dvd00:51
phixtvaughn: that is more useful00:51
prettyhatemanyone know how to setup a multi sessions with one user being logged in via vnc and the other user being logged in with a display?00:51
Crash1hdlosha: ahh ok I thought the command was someting with a -f in it00:51
jonzbccsomeone try: `cd ~/Desktop; nautilus ./` -if you use gnome, and tellme if you get errors?00:52
starcannonprettyhatem turn remote desktop sharing on with the user that needs access, then "Switch User" to your session that should do it00:52
robert__thanks everyone00:52
Lostinspace_46During an install, I got this msg...Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable...since I get this a lot, I better learn how to handle it.  Any takers?00:53
loshaRetro198909: I thought you pay shipping back to newegg even for DOAs. In which case I'd want to be sure before I returned it. Btw, the samsungs seem to get good reviews. I use them myself...00:53
Crash1hdlosha: oh I was thinking of #shutdown -rF now00:53
starcannonprettyhatem *note* I have not actually done it, but that "should" work00:53
loshaCrash1hd: in my 9.10 system, shutdown doesn't seem to have a -F switch per the man page...00:54
prettyhatemstarcannon doing this will allow both users to keep being logged in and able to use their desktops?00:54
justine777wI know it says that i have full disk but i was told that i dont. I do not know how to fix this. I also can not update anything and i have broken packages which i can not fix00:54
starcannonprettyhatem I believe so long as you use the fast user switcher agent it should work yes00:54
prettyhatemk thanks a ton00:54
starcannonprettyhatem be sure not to log the other account out, come back and ask again if it does not work00:54
prettyhatemk i will try00:55
selected_fxhelllo00:56
justine777whi00:56
selected_fxis it posible to install wirelles driver with wine00:56
selected_fx?00:56
selected_fx?00:56
berrybarryselected_fx what chipset you have?00:56
selected_fxneatgear usb00:56
justine777whow do i know which partition i am running?00:56
StevenLiuHI00:57
berrybarryselected_fx ha everythings in google the model is useful ill help :)00:57
StevenLiuis there a ubuntu netbook remix src tar?00:57
starcannonselected_fx if it is not being enabled using System>Administration>Hardware Drivers, then you may try ndiswrapper; heres some good documentation:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper00:57
selected_fxthanls00:58
mazda01my desktop icons disappeared and not sure when! how do I get them back?00:58
starcannonoops sorry, berrybarry is helping you00:58
ardchoillemazda01: do you have a right click menu on the desktop?00:58
spiderbatdadjustine777w, mount00:58
berrybarrystarcannon been trying to help people ha but everything above my head ha00:59
justine777wHow do I view what partition I am using?00:59
mazda01ardchoille, nope. what's weird is that conky is running fine00:59
Crash1hdlosha: well it seemed to work and now its doing a check (going to take awhile as it was at 3% for the big drive  if you are still around when its all done I will let you know how it goes00:59
jonzbccjustine777w: fdisk -l (will need sudo)00:59
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ardchoillemazda01: Nautilus manages the desktop icons and right click menu. Restart nautilus and see if that helps.00:59
justine777wthank you00:59
loshaCrash1hd: good luck...00:59
jonzbccjustine777w: actually `df -ah`00:59
mazda01ardchoille, what, sudo /etc/init.d/nautilus restart?00:59
Lostinspace_46If software X. (dependency)installs with no .pc file how can the dependent program find X.01:00
ardchoillemazda01: no, just start up a nautilus window01:00
Lenin_Catx org wont restart01:00
ardchoillemazda01: And don't use sudo for anything unless  you know you actually need it01:00
mmanhey!! im just installing ubuntu for the first time, and im having some troubles with grub, could you please help me?01:01
starcannonmazda01: you could try in a terminal: gconftool -s /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop -t bool true01:01
mazda01ardchoille, i am aware of when to use sudo. I've been using debian based linux for over 5 years now. I wasn't sure if nautilus had a startup script for controlling the desktop icons. starting a nautilus window didn't do anything.01:01
mmananyone?:P01:02
ardchoillemazda01: did you somehow turn off the desktop?01:02
EastDallasmman could you be more specific?01:02
mazda01starcannon, that was it but conky went away. I know how to restart that though.01:02
mazda01ardchoille, not on purpose. HA HA01:02
abuqutaitaguys, i've been reading for 30 min or so, and i'm still pretty confused about LVM :(01:02
starcannonmazda01: good01:03
ardchoillemazda01: yeah, looks like you turned off the desktop at some point, thanks starcannon01:03
starcannonnp, np :)01:03
abuqutaitaanyone set up an LVM before?01:03
mmanwell, i installed ubuntu after windows xp, but then I couldnt boot ubuntu, so i went into the live cd and tried something, then i restarted and i just have like a shell that starts with grub01:03
DasEiabuqutaita: I did01:03
castabuqutaita: yes.01:04
mazda01starcannon, my .conkylaunch script didn't restart conky.01:04
berrybarrywell maybe someone can resolve this issue, I got a message saying disk has many bad sectors... I ran tests and its fine, what do I do01:04
justine777wafter i find out which partition i am running i was told to run sudo fsck -a /dev/sda2 but it says it is risky? I am trying to fix the No space left on device problem. Will that fix it?01:04
starcannonmazda01: I don't use conky so I dunno, sorry :(01:04
lazyPowerberrybarry, tried fscking the disk?01:04
abuqutaitacast: could you help me out with some setup issues i'm having?01:04
EastDallasmman:  what do you mean by "so i went into the live cd and tried something"?01:04
DasEiberrybarry: install smartmontools and also rune2fsck from live01:04
yellowroosterhi. i did this: sudo apt-get install totem-xine. but  when i run "totem-xine", i get "command not found." pls help01:04
DasEirun*01:04
ardchoillemazda01: I use conky, but I don't use a script to launch it. What does your script do?01:05
castabuqutaita: maybe.01:05
abuqutaitacast: alright, heh.01:05
mmanwell, i boot from the live cd, and mounted the partition where linux was instaled01:05
abuqutaitai have 5 HDDs in this system, 80, 160, 250, 250, and 320gb01:05
abuqutaitai'll use the 80gb for all system stuff, but i wanted to use the other 4 for storage01:06
mazda01ardchoille, it does this, http://pastebin.com/f468ecd8601:06
mmanthen i did a backup of the MBR and then installe the grub again in the MBR, I restarted and the "grub shell" appeared01:06
abuqutaitai'm assuming just concatenating the 4 disks using an LVM is my best option here01:06
justine777wafter i find out which partition i am running i was told to run sudo fsck -a /dev/sda2 but it says it is risky? I am trying to fix the No space left on device problem. Will that fix it?01:06
berrybarryDasEi I have smartmontools installed01:06
ardchoillemazda01: Is there any particular reason you need conky to wait before launching?01:07
mazda01ardchoille, it runs, nevermind. it just took awhile because of the sleep command01:07
jonzbccjustine777w: what exactly is wrong?01:07
ardchoillemazda01: ok01:07
abuqutaitacast: is that true?01:07
justine777wjonzbcc- i can not update anything and i have broken packages and it says i do not have space left on device01:07
EastDallasyellowrooster: I believe the command is still 'totem' even if you're running the xine version.01:08
spiderbatdadjustine777w, dont run fsck on a mount partition. use a tool like gaparted live to adjust volume sizes01:08
jonzbccjustine777w: it says you *don't* have space, but you do?01:08
castabuqutaita: i wouldn't.01:08
abuqutaitacast: then?01:08
yellowroosteryellowrooster: i see. i am looking at the "about totem movie player" window. and it still says "movie player using GStreamer 0.10.25", even after I installed totem-xine. why?01:08
mmanEastDallas, did you get what I said?01:08
justine777wjonzbcc: yes thats what i was told. I have a whole forum on it.01:08
EastDallasmman: researching....01:09
justine777wspiderbatdad: i do not understand01:09
jonzbccjustine777w: you started a whole thread?01:09
mmanthanks ;)01:09
grkblood13i have a long radio show track where one of the guys on the mic is louder there everyone else. is there a way no bring all the levels on the track to around the same amplitude with audacity?01:09
justine777wjonzbcc: yes i did. want the link?01:09
castabuqutaita: disks fail all the time01:09
jonzbccjustine777w: sure01:09
justine777wjonzbcc: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+question/9398901:09
LinuxGuy2009Hello does anyone know if there are any apps that can interpret a good brainfuck? Only beef?01:09
mazda01ardchoille, so the desktop can load. i read about it on ubuntuforums01:09
abuqutaitacast: then what to do?01:10
ardchoillemazda01: I used conky in gnome and didn't need anything like that, conky just ran normally with the default command upon autostart01:10
mazda01ardchoille, now I know you think my desktop didn't load because of my conky script but i can assure you that I have been running this conky setup since feisty and I have never had a desktop problem. not sure why it was off?01:10
nohupgood evening all :)01:11
mazda01ardchoille, maybe it runs ok now but i remember back in feisty i had to do it for some reason01:11
DasEiberrybarry: did you get my last message ?01:11
castabuqutaita: whatever suits your purpose01:11
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ardchoillemazda01: Ah, ok. You might check your conky now that you're on a newer release and see if you need that script.01:11
nohupi just did an apt-get upgrade on my server.. and it updated my linux-image-2.6.28-17 package... after which it won't boot anymore ("error running install command for fuse")01:11
nohupis this a known problem/bug ? and does anyone know how to fix it ?01:12
nohupi can still boot using other kernels... but none of them support my hardware...01:12
mazda01ardchoille, something about the background image not appearing also. i don't remember why exactly01:12
LinuxGuy2009nohup: Ubuntu is full of bugs actually.01:12
justine777wjonzbcc: i also have a huge red circle with a white line thru it where the update manager is01:12
ardchoillemazda01: nautilus also manages the wallpaper01:12
nohupLinuxGuy2009: everything is.. but that doesn't help me much :)01:12
berrybarryDasEi I typed rune2fsck in google got no searches and could I type that in ternimal in ubuntu without live?01:12
abuqutaitacast: it's going to just be a file server... but not for backups01:12
nohupi'd just like the kernel to boot again...01:12
LinuxGuy2009nohup: The debian version of whatever app your using will be very stable.01:13
nohupyes, awesome..01:13
nohupthis server runs ubuntu01:13
nohupnot debian :)01:13
mazda01ardchoille, i am running conky 1.6.1-0ubuntu4, i'll look into running conky without sleep at some point. thanks01:13
mmanEastDallas, I could boot with the live cd, and from there reinstall grub01:13
mazda01gotta go now. bye everyone01:13
berrybarryDasEi no I did not get last message01:13
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workstationso It seems I am missing   "grub-update" script on my Ubuntu 9.10 install. Is there a way to install this script?01:13
lazyPowernohup, i'm not aware of this bug. And thats very strange, sorry to hear that.01:13
EastDallasmman, were you getting the windows boot menu first then a message that said 'loading grub' if you chose ubuntu before you messed with the MBR?01:14
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nohuplazyPower: it kinda looks like something broke in the initrd image or something...01:14
nohupsadly i don't think ubuntu keeps backups of those images before upgrading them... so i guess i'm screwed ?01:14
drunkpunkhey all googled everywhere to find a definitive sloution to longstandin prob getting sound on remote desktop - the questions - is it possible, if so, how??? any help 'preciated muchly01:15
lazyPoweri wouldn't think you're screwed...01:15
jonzbccjustine777w: i'm still reading, but I think i'm at the part of advice that was given about ""01:15
Dmolejrib: mpd+mpc looks perfect but it's not working for me... did you have to do anything after install?01:15
justine777wjonbcc: given about what?01:15
lazyPowercan you boot a live cd and re-do the update?01:15
Flannelworkstation: Do you have update-grub?01:15
mmanEastDallas: no, at the very first it just booted windows directly, no option to boot grub or ubuntu, so then I did what I said, now it appears like a shell like grub01:15
DasEiberrybarry: the utility smartmontools provides let's you check for bad sectors and also updates the hd's - self report01:16
nohuplazyPower: nope.. can't use any other boot device...01:16
jonzbcchello, okay, i didn't see anything after my last message, I had to disconnect01:16
nohupit boots from an usb stick...01:16
spiderbatdadjustine777w, have you been able to boot the live cd and run fsck?01:16
workstationFlannel, yes01:16
EastDallasmman is Ubuntu installed in it's own partition, or a virtual partition?01:16
lazyPowernohup, then from what i tell, you very well may be. but i'm by no means a master. My dark voodoo only goes so far :P01:16
_cblsusb does not consistenlty detect my usb headphones. Any ideas?01:16
berrybarryDasEi ok sounds like a plan, what do I type in ternimal?01:16
nohupi have no cd/hdd or whatsoever in it.. but i CAN boot another image..01:16
spiderbatdadJonzbcc sorry thought you left01:16
mmanEastDallas own partition01:16
justine777wspiderbatdad: I do not know what that means. I was told to do that but I do not know how. I tried and It did not work01:16
lazyPowernohup, right with zero hardware support right?01:17
workstationFlannel, wow, how silly do I feel01:17
workstationFlannel, thank you01:17
justine777wjonbbc: just let me know if you need anymore information01:17
LinuxGuy2009Is Ubuntu Server edition based on the same packages and repos as the desktop version?01:17
nohuplazyPower: hehe, not zero.. it just doesn't recognize the wifi... so i don't have internet :)01:17
Flannelworkstation: No worries :)01:17
jonzbccspiderbatdad: np, more help the better.01:17
LinuxGuy2009I mean the same unstable packages.01:17
nohupwell.. i can fiddle with that and get masquarade working through my laptop01:17
workstationFlannel, I do have another question.01:17
nat2610!clone01:17
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate01:17
lazyPowernohup, lol. well... what about a USB stick?cant you boot a live image from USB?01:18
lazyPowerthen mount the hdd, and chroot into it and re-apply the update that way?01:18
jonzbccjustine777w: they're suggesting you boot from a livecd, before I tell you "download one" , can you post the output of the following to a pastebin (eg pastebin.com): `df -ah`01:18
justine777wjonzbcc: pastebin?01:18
workstationFlannel, If I mount a partition that contains the /boot/grub folder and files, would I be able to run "update-grub" on that partition while mounted on it?01:18
jonzbccjustine777w: yes, visit http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/01:18
jonzbccjustine777w: run `df -ah` in your command line, and pate the output to that^ website, then show us the link01:19
Flannelupdate-grub looks for /boot/grub, so if you mount "boot/grub" at "/", then yes.01:19
workstationFlannel, great, thanks01:19
_BLACK_MAN_Hello01:19
DasEiberrybarry: it's a time ago I had to do that, looking myself for my note, see man smartctl meanwhile01:19
_BLACK_MAN_black man her01:19
_BLACK_MAN_black man here01:19
_BLACK_MAN_i enjoy using ubuntu01:19
FloodBot2_BLACK_MAN_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.01:19
EastDallasmman:  I know you didn't reinstall windows, but I think this tutorial might help you with your problem: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin701:19
justine777wjonzbcc: done01:20
_BLACK_MAN_i highly enjoy the use of ubuntu01:20
salvohi there, I am looking for some help concerning the nvidia driver, after installation i get a black screen...01:20
jonzbccjustine777w: okay, so now you have to give us the link ot that page01:20
_BLACK_MAN_salvo01:20
spiderbatdadjustine777w, linky?01:20
_BLACK_MAN_that is a common error01:20
_BLACK_MAN_you need install ORT-8a subset protocols01:20
justine777whttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/342269/01:20
berrybarryDasEi ok?01:20
FjodorHi, does anyone know of a ppa repo that provies fuse 2.8.x?01:20
* airtonix wishs pastebinit was installed by default01:21
LinuxGuy2009nohup: Ubuntu server seem as buggy as desktop? I just wonder how they compare as far as stability goes. Just as many bugs? Use the same repos as the desktop repos?01:21
DasEiberrybarry: first enable smart on that drive01:21
feed_me_seymourAnyone know if there's an IRC support channel for Evolution?01:21
Flannel_BLACK_MAN_: Please stop01:21
jonzbccjustine777w: do you have an external media (say a thumb drive) or a bigger thing of usb somewhere?01:21
spiderbatdadlol01:21
CEOhello all, im very new to linux and i installed the latest ubuntu server but also i insatlled the xubuntu dekstop, i read in the ubuntu webpage that the ubuntu desktop version  have different kernel configuration than the server one, so if  i installed the xubuntu desktop im i gonna keep the server kernel?01:21
justine777wjonzbcc: i dont think so01:21
spiderbatdadjustine777w, your partition is only 3.7?01:21
mmanEastDallas, so either i don it from windows or live cd right?01:21
berrybarryDasEi I believe I already did that... and that command is? thx01:21
salvois there somebody able to give me some real advice...01:21
justine777wspiderbatdad: i know.01:21
FlannelCEO: Correct, but you can switch your kernel (from -server to -generic) if you want as well01:22
loshaairtonix: well, it's just an apt-get away, isn't it?01:22
mr_engineeris everything ok if xorg uses 129 MiB of RAM?01:22
jonzbccjustine777w: you have to give your root (/) partition some of that space your "home" is taking up.01:22
EastDallasmman:  look at option 301:22
jonzbccspiderbatdad: do you know how to do that?01:22
justine777wjonzbcc: how do i do that01:22
marks256anyone know of an alternative to GnuDIP? It's basically a server like dyndns01:22
EastDallasmman:  you can get to the grub> prompt right?01:22
berrybarryDasEi on a dial up internet connection ha?01:23
CEOthanks flannel01:23
spiderbatdadjustine777w, lets see # sudo fdisk -l01:23
EastDallasmman:  I believe you choose one of those three options.01:23
tvaughndid anyone have an answer for my login problem01:23
mmanEastDallas, yes im having the grub> promt, but the problem i get is that the command "fiind" appears as unknown01:23
justine777wspiderbatdad: paste in paste site?01:23
CEOone more question. If i want to install gcc i can do it via cd-rom? in case  i dont have a internet connection01:23
spiderbatdadyes01:23
EastDallasmman:  Then I guess you'll have to use one of the other options01:24
FlannelCEO: Yeah, build-essential is on the CDrom01:24
tvaughnphix: did you know how i can find whats wrong?01:24
spiderbatdadjonzbcc, i would use gparted live myself cause im a perpetual noob01:24
justine777wspiderbatdad: do i use the #?>01:24
DasEiberrybarry: sudo smartctl -s on /dev/WhatEver       (sudo fdisk -l lists your drives) ((no, shot my vm))01:24
spiderbatdadjustine777w, command is sudo fdisk -l01:24
FlannelCEO: Afer you install, put the CD back in, and then add it to your repositories (Ubuntu will do this automatically, I don't know if xubuntu does, but you can use `apt-cdrom add -`) then apt-get update, and apt-get install build-essential01:24
workstationFlannel, even so, that will only populate the partitions on the laptop hd, not the usb hd.01:25
jonzbccspiderbatdad: that's fine, but can you resize partitions without estroying data?01:25
justine777wspiderbatdad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342273/01:25
spiderbatdadthere are probably more efficient ways like dd but idk01:25
CEOthanks flannel01:25
CEO:)01:25
spiderbatdadjonzbcc, thats what gparted live does...shrink one grow the other01:26
EastDallasmman:  I'm pretty sure that when you install ubuntu after windows it still starts with (windows) ntldr, and displays the windows boot menu.  It only goes to grub after you choose Ubuntu.  (someone correct me if I'm wrong as this might only be the case with virtual partitions.)01:26
CEOsee yaa all01:26
mike330404#ubuntu-mythtv01:26
tvaughni have a problem when i try to login to my computer running 9.10, the graphical login screen is there, you try to login and it tries to load then crashes back to the graphical login screen01:26
jonzbccspiderbatdad: syeah, but without destroying data? I've never done it to my own filesystem, only to external devices.01:26
berrybarryDasEi which do I want? HPFS/NTFS EXTENDED LINUX OR LINUX SWAP /SOLARIS01:26
spiderbatdadjonzbcc, I have used it successfully many times01:27
jonzbccspiderbatdad: doesn't it also look like one of sda1 and sda3 aren't even being used01:27
arkanabarI need an archive manager to handle .rar archives, and the default one doesn't work.01:27
mmanEastDallas, after reinstaling grub, now appears this "grub shell"01:27
jonzbccspiderbatdad: or 1 & 3 rather01:27
FezzlerCan't seem to get sound running under wine01:27
mmanEastDallas, i will try the live cd option01:28
arkanabarFezzler, you have to run winecfg and select a sound server -- I suggest ALSA01:28
spiderbatdadjonzbcc, not according to fdisk01:28
EastDallasmman: try the live cd option01:28
mmanEastDallas, i will tell you, let me try, thanks for now!!!! ;)01:28
DasEiberrybarry: more than one drive ?01:28
mmanbest idea to change to ubuntu :D01:28
jonzbccwell, fdisk is showing devices, I think df actually shows whats mounted01:28
jonzbccspiderbatdad: ^AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA01:28
EastDallasmman good luck!01:28
jonzbccspiderbatdad: (sorry about the "A")01:28
berrybarryDasEi I have dual boot with windows01:28
DasEidf is diskfree, mount shows mounted, jonzbcc01:29
DasEiberrybarry: which reported errors ?01:29
spiderbatdadjonzbcc, swap and hpfs01:29
Fezzlerarkanabar>> In winecfg, Audio tab, ALSA Driver checked, Test Sound does produce sound - but app doesn't01:29
berrybarryDasEi Ubuntu has the bad sectors..01:29
nightohai01:30
DasEiberrybarry: device is called ?01:30
arkanabarFezzler, have you read up on your app at appdb.winehq.org ?01:30
jonzbccspiderbatdad: oh right, okay, ignore me -also, DasEi's right01:30
berrybarryDasEi I assume its Linux sda501:30
DasEiberrybarry: sda so, it's hd not partition01:30
spiderbatdadjonzbcc, i'm sure you're more capable of the two of us so i wouldnt ignore you01:30
Fezzlerarkanabar>> No, I will do that.   Notes there on running apps under wine?01:30
DasEiberrybarry: sudo smartctl -s on /dev/sda01:30
salvohi there, I got the black screen of death after installing the nvidia drivers, anybody can help?01:30
justine777wspiderbatdad - jonzbcc - dasEi - so what do i do?01:31
arkanabarFezzler, you bet.  Without it, I would never have gotten Ventrilo working.  Or WoW.01:31
Fezzlerarkanabar>> New to win.  Installed to use Reaper to record guitar.  Not going well.01:31
berrybarryDasEi thx its enable01:31
ubuntuhello01:31
jonzbccjustine777w: i'm thinking (and reading some of your thread again)01:31
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justine777wjonzbcc- okay thanks01:31
DasEiberrybarry: sudo smartctl --test=long /dev/sda01:31
songeri wana get effects for the windows01:31
RafaelI'm trying to save my WD External HDD01:31
DasEiberrybarry: size of the hd ?01:32
RafaelIt wont mount01:32
Rafaeland I want to save the files I have there01:32
spiderbatdadjustine777w, I would burn a copy of gparted live...boot from it and shrink the ajoining partition and expand / into.01:32
RafaelI get to see it on the disk utility01:32
DasEiRafael: sudo fdisk -l finds it ?01:32
Rafaelbut only part of it01:32
Rafaelit has 2 partitions01:32
berrybarryDasEi I have 90gbs free01:32
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jonzbccjustine777w: well, if the thread's suggestion works, you'll be in the clear: that's booting externally (like from a LiveCD) and then running the `fsck` to repair the system on your computer.01:32
justine777wspiderbatdad: i do not understand01:32
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DasEiberrybarry: Iasked for the whole disk to determine time for test01:33
Rafaelno it does not show on sudo fdisk -l01:33
justine777wjonzbcc: can you please explain how to do that?01:33
Rafaelit is on /dev/sdb01:33
berrybarryDasEi 75mins01:33
arkanabarFileRoller isn't able to open .rar archives, what should I use?01:33
Rafaelonly shows /dev/sda01:33
spiderbatdadjustine777w, booting the gparted live will make things more obvious...have a look and ask questions before risking any changes01:33
jonzbccjustine777w: I think you should burn a livecd of Ubuntu (not just gparted live).01:33
Fezzlerarkanabar>> My app not in WineHQ01:33
spiderbatdadjustine777w, its just my two cents01:33
DasEiberrybarry: k, let's try with the short then, abort by ctrl+c01:33
kostkonarkanabar, install unrar-nonfree first01:33
DasEiberrybarry: sudo smartctl --test=short /dev/sda01:33
justine777wjonzbcc: I have the ubuntu 8.04 installation cd...use that?01:33
arkanabarFezzler, out of ideas.  Sorry.01:33
airtonix!who | Rafael01:33
ubottuRafael: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)01:33
spiderbatdadjustine777w, jonzbcc may have another idea01:34
DasEi!who | Rafael01:34
Fezzlerarkanabar>> Thanks01:34
drunkpunkhey all googled everywhere to find a definitive sloution to longstandin prob getting sound on remote desktop - the questions - is it possible, if so, how??? any help 'preciated muchly01:34
arkanabarkostkon, thanks.01:34
kostkonarkanabar, and the you'll be able to open rar files with fileroller01:34
kostkonthen*01:34
berrybarryDasEi 2mins ha cool01:34
drunkpunkor even a solution*01:34
DasEi!pm | Rafael01:34
ubottuRafael: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.01:34
RafaelDasEi it is on /dev/sdb01:34
jonzbccjustine777w: you have 2 issues: no space left, and package-errors. correct?01:34
RafaelDasEi but it wotn show up on sudo fdisk -l01:35
night2~01:35
jonzbcc!livecd | justine777w01:35
ubottujustine777w: The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.01:35
DasEiRafael: sda and sdb are two hd's , partition nmber ?01:35
RafaelDasEi: ?01:35
justine777wjonzbcc: i guess01:35
RafaelDasEi: yes the sdb is the WD 500GB My passport01:35
RafaelDasEi: sda is the laptop hdd01:35
vashitnhow can i unmount my partition so i can divide it?01:35
justine777wubottu: so use the ubuntu 8.04 cd and click on what option?01:35
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)01:35
DasEiRafael: with the firmware on it ?01:35
jonzbccjustine777w: do you understand what the livecd is? booting from a livecd will allow you to try to tackle both problems.01:35
RedLanceOk, I have an old DOS BBS door game that I want to put online, so people can play it.  Is there a way I can let people ssh into a box, and have them be able to run an old dos program from the cli?01:35
nightRedLance: yep01:36
nightRedLance: set up sshd01:36
drunkpunkhey all googled everywhere to find a definitive solution to longstandin prob getting sound on remote desktop - the questions - is it possible, if so, how??? any help 'preciated muchly01:36
RafaelDasEi: ???01:36
justine777wjonzbcc: no i do not. i am sorry. i have the ubuntu 8.04 installation cd which has options on it, but i do not know if it the LiveCd?01:36
nightRedLance: and game accounts i guess to all interested01:36
DasEiRafael: that hd comes with a firmware I think upbuntu has difficulties with01:36
RafaelDasEi: on disk utility it shows teh hdd but not all the 500gb01:36
jonzbccjustine777w: i suggest you do the following: if when you turn on your computer (with your installation cd inserted) you see an option that says "try ubuntu without any changes", then select that01:36
cheekois there any downloag manager for ubuntu like the dowmload manager for windows which boosts the down load speed by 300 %01:37
RafaelDasEi: it didnt have trouble before until I tried partitioning it01:37
cyberwormanybody using backtrac 4 here?01:37
justine777wjonzbcc: i was told to do that but i did not see that option. i can try again, but what if i dont see the option and if i do then what after that?01:37
nightcheeko: no dl manager boosts speed by 300%01:37
DasEiRafael: sudo fdisk -l01:37
nightcheeko: but you can use curl01:37
RedLancenight, Then what?  Will dosemu work from the command line?01:37
jonzbccjustine777w: if you don't see a way of booting live, than you'll have to download a copy of the latest ubuntu.iso and make a live cd of it (do this either on a friends machine, or at a library, if there's a cd burner, or if you have a thumb drive of at least 1GB)01:38
DasEiRafael: sudo apt-get install pastebinit,    sorry^01:38
vashitnhow can i unmount my partition so i can divide it?01:38
spiderbatdadjonzbcc, /me headslap I see01:38
nightcheeko: or aria2c01:38
DasEiRafael: sudo fdisk -l |  pastebinit01:38
EastDallasjustine77w:  I found it confusing myself at first.  The install CD is the LiveCD.01:38
nightRedLance: well depends, if you set it up good it should work, right?01:38
cyberwormanybody using backtrack here01:38
justine777wthanks eastdallas01:38
nightRedLance: i mean if it works on your own box01:38
nightRedLance: it works for everyone connecting to your box01:38
spiderbatdadjonzbcc, i wasnt looking at the whole disk I thought the partition was full01:38
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Dmolehelp please, can't get mpc to add/play a file in mpd01:38
cheekoyes cyberworm01:38
jonzbccjustine777w: eastdallas is right, but sometimes (I'm pretty sure) you can't boot as a "livecd" as eastdallas says, sometimes its only an installer (i think)01:38
loshadrunkpunk: I don't think it's possible. The only thing I've ever seen do that was rdesktop to a remote windows machine. If you could find an rdesktop server for linux I suppose it might work.01:39
berrybarryha can I suggest a idea to developers?01:39
justine777wjonzbcc: can i download it from my computer? i have a burner and does it have to be 8.04?01:39
nightDmole: you need to make a playlist01:39
DasEicyberworm: it's based on intrepid, any ubuntu-question ?01:39
RedLancenight, I thought dosemu only worked under X?01:39
jonzbccjustine777w: no, you can use the latest version of ubuntu01:39
Rafaelpastebinit?01:39
nightDmole: actually, you need to make a dot file aka mpd's config that has dir of your music stored01:39
Dmolenight: how? there is nothing in man mpc about that01:39
kostkoncheeko, check http://netfleet.sourceforge.net/01:39
DasEi!paste | Rafael, and mind who01:39
ubottuRafael, and mind who: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic01:39
Dmolenight: got that01:39
nightRedLance: never tried, but i know for a fact you can forward X via shell01:39
justine777wjonzbcc: okay. where do i go to get the download?01:39
berrybarryDasEi its been 2 mins...01:39
jonzbccjustine777w: here's the part to remember (for the time that you're booted of a livecd).. try the fsck (just as they suggested in your thread)01:39
kostkoncheeko, or http://multiget.sourceforge.net/01:40
RafaelDasEi, im using the live cd01:40
drunkpunklosha: so it aint poss on VNC?01:40
RafaelDasEi, it didint find it01:40
DasEiberrybarry: let it finish01:40
jonzbccjustine777w: ubuntu.com's home page will have it01:40
DasEiRafael: ah01:40
justine777wjonzbcc: i do not know how to try the fsck01:40
Dmolenight: can it play music from outside the path in the config?01:40
mesutcimekenhi people01:40
loshadrunkpunk: as far as I know, vnc doesn't do sound....01:40
nightDmole: no01:40
spiderbatdadno sda4 has 79G available01:40
mesutcimekenme again01:40
RedLancenight, Hmmm, ok, I'll give it a shot, thanks!01:40
nightDmole: np01:40
mesutcimekenyesterday i said my sound problem01:40
DasEiRafael: did you try to format the external from live ?01:40
jonzbccjustine777w: can I pm you? this is nauseating with all this chatter01:40
Dmolenight: thanks testing...01:40
justine777wjonzbcc: yes01:40
RafaelDasEi, it wont show up on gparted01:40
drunkpunklosha: cheers mate, that kinda confirms my suspicions01:41
mesutcimekenand i get some helped, thanks01:41
DasEiRafael: did you try to format the external from live ?01:41
jonzbccjustine777w: just a sec.01:41
nightDmole: check ubuntu wiki on mpd (if there is one) or archlinux wiki, there's a really good wiki entry on setting up mpd01:41
berrybarryha can I suggest a idea to developers? a command that atomatically gives you a pastebin url with ternimal screen ha01:41
mesutcimekenbut still i have no sound in my laptop01:41
nightberrybarry: there's wgetpaste01:41
DasEiberrybarry: pastebinit01:41
night:)01:41
DasEiheh01:41
arkanabarkostkon, that worked.  Thank you.01:41
drunkpunklosha: any recommendations for an alternative to try?01:41
cheekothanks guys01:41
kostkonarkanabar, :)01:41
loshamesutcimeken: what os version?01:42
drunkpunklosha: baring in mind i'm a total n00b user01:42
mesutcimekenthis websiteshttp://www.opensound.com/wiki/index.php/Tips_And_Tricks#OSSLIBDIR01:42
nightany of you guys using twitter?01:42
berrybarrynight fb ha01:42
DasEiRafael: ?01:42
drunkpunknight: yup01:42
nightberrybarry: ?01:42
RafaelDasEi, http://pastebin.com/d42b4a01901:42
nightdrunkpunk: could you test my lil script for me?01:42
berrybarrynight facebook01:42
loshadrunkpunk: nothing I know of that does remote sound, sorry...01:42
RafaelDasEi: It will not show up on gparted.01:42
FezzlerWhat is "Jack" or "Jack Control" as related to audio.  Alternative driver to ALSA OSS?01:42
elfranneI am running Vbox 3.1 on ubuntu 9.10 trying to mount a raw partition but after grub i got error 15 ... any idea ?01:42
mesutcimekeni dont  know01:42
kostkonmesutcimeken, no sound at all? what have you tried so far?01:42
nightdrunkpunk: http://github.com/n1ght/clitter/01:43
mesutcimekeni read and installed what it says01:43
loshamesutcimeken: open a terminal and type cat /etc/issue01:43
dyhhello01:43
nightberrybarry: ah no fb...01:43
EastDallasjustine777w torrent is the fastest way to download the install CD: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt01:43
airtonixFezzler, Jack is an alternative to pulseaudio.01:43
drunkpunknight: what's it do mate?01:43
mesutcimekenjust a second01:43
DasEiRafael: If I get you right, the external is empty by now and you want to save your laptop to it ?01:43
nighti wrote ages ago this script for twitter.. even forgot about it01:43
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nightdrunkpunk: basically enables you to send tweet's from cli01:43
nightdrunkpunk: clitter == cli twitter01:43
airtonixFezzler, it's an audio multiplexer01:43
Fezzlerairtonix>> What is pulseaudio?  What are they for?01:43
nightFezzler: PA is evil. don't use that.01:44
starcannonlol night, considering the past tense of a tweet, your cli name is hysterical01:44
Fezzlerairtonix>> multiplexer?01:44
airtonixFezzler, think of it as a mixer for various sound drivers01:44
loshadrunkpunk: you know, I wouldn't run a total stranger's script even if you paid me...01:44
RafaelDasEi: No, the external hdd has two or should have two partitions, one with all my personal data and another one with my laptop backup01:44
nightFezzler: well actually you're forced to use pa01:44
Flare-Laptop!pulseaudio | Fezzler01:44
ubottuFezzler: PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions01:44
Fezzlernight PA?01:44
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mesutcimekenthis is what terminal says01:44
jiffe99is there a way I can make hardlinks to directories?01:44
RafaelDasEi: the personal data is fat32, the backup is ntfs01:44
mesutcimekencat is /bin/cat01:44
mesutcimekenbash: type: /etc/issue: not found01:44
nightstarcannon: yeah clitter was intended to sound funny :D01:44
nightFezzler: pulseaudio. it's a really messy soundserver, unfortunately integrated deeply in ubuntu01:44
kostkonnight, messy? right...01:45
mesutcimekenand now my output icon from the bar has been gone also01:45
kostkonnight, i mean... wrong01:45
FezzlerMainly, I'm trying to determine best sound recorder for laying down real guitar and software drums and other - mulit-track01:45
nightkostkon: well it is, innit. i mean, integration... it's all so... messy01:45
loshamesutcimeken: sorry, I can't help you...01:45
drunkpunklosha: lol cheers for the heads up01:45
RafaelDasEi: I want to be able to transfer my personal data to another hdd and format and clean the malfunctioning one01:45
nightFezzler: for serious multimedia work i'd suggest you make a win partition :)01:46
FezzlerAudacity is easy but Overdub produces "clicking" sound on second track01:46
kostkonnight, no. just some apps don't support it yet.01:46
Fezzlernight  100% Ubuntu PC01:46
nightkostkon: no, pa is evil. and soon you will see the light.01:46
loshanight: I don't think it's appropriate to ask strangers to run scripts for you on this channel....01:46
DasEiRafael: connected via usb ?01:46
geniimesutcimeken: The command is:   cat /etc/issue            and NOT: type cat /etc/issue01:46
RafaelDasEi: yes01:46
DasEiRafael: sudo lsusb01:46
nightlosha: source code is public, they can check it.. and i need testers :D01:47
mesutcimekeni like ubuntu and i am a beginner but this program has soo many problem and  i tired to fix it with hepl from the troubble list websites01:47
FezzlerSo for beginner - stick with ALSA and avoid Jack?  Seem complex to set up01:47
nightlosha: nothing wrong with that, innit?01:47
loshagenii: ah, I wondered how he got that wrong01:47
mesutcimekenbut soo may solution but no one works01:47
loshanight: on a faceboot channel maybe, but not here...01:47
mesutcimekenmaybe i couldnt do that?01:47
EastDallasfezzler:  some programs require jack, but, yeah, they are more advanced for the most part.01:47
RafaelDasEi: this is the one http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Passport-Essential-WDBAAA5000ABK-NESN/dp/B002KG2LOA/ref=sr_1_1/182-5849312-1523428?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1260928046&sr=8-101:47
EastDallas!info ardour01:47
ubottuardour (source: ardour): digital audio workstation (graphical gtk2 interface). In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.8.2-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 4587 kB, installed size 12824 kB01:47
nightlosha: because of what exactly?01:47
geniilosha: I wrote the typo in the explanation for that reason :)01:48
feifongwongQuestion: new to ubuntu, - 9.10 amd64 advanced install: I have a 750GB HD. want to set up 1 system partition: got 25GB "/" main system drive, 10GB "swap". question is I want to set the rest of the drive as just storage, unsure on what mount point to use for this? I come from the windows world. thx01:48
Flannelfeifongwong: /home is where all of 'your' stuff goes, so that'd be a prime candidate01:48
loshanight: because periodically we get people trying to foist malicious scripts on unsuspecting users, and i don't know you from Adam...01:48
feifongwongFlannel ok thanks, will try it out01:48
RafaelDasEi: http://pastebin.com/d623dee4301:48
nightlosha: im on archlinux actually... and like i said, it's hosted on github and code is public... so if someone doesn't trust me they can just check the code prior to running01:49
berrybarryDasEi its been 2 mins.. ha01:50
drunkpunknight: it aint so much that i dont trust you, more that i'm a bit useless!01:50
sebsebsebfeifongwong: by default home goes in /  seperate home partitions can be rather useful.   if you have a big seperate /home  you only need like 10GB for /   also SWAP space depends on how much RAM you have and if you want to hibernate the computer or not01:50
cheekocyberworm: u can go to #remote-exploit this is irc channel for back track hope this helps u out01:50
DasEiRafael: for some reason it's not recognized, I now from soft shipping with them that will ask (win) for a password and covers the parti-table , but you said you had to independent partitions on it01:50
mesutcimekeni did it again01:50
castdon't really need swap, i don't bother with it :>:01:50
EastDallasfeifongwong: if you have your home directory on another partition you can do a complete reinstall, and all of your data/settings are maintained.  http://www.go2linux.org/how-to-move-home-directory-to-another-partition01:50
mesutcimekensame answer01:50
nightdrunkpunk: basically, just try to tweet from cli, from gui (-g option), tell me what you think should be added next and how you like it :D but anyway, if you don't feel like it no probs :)01:50
loshanight: the most vulnerable users couldn't read a piece of code to save their lives...01:50
trismnight: you really shouldn't be advertising in this channel01:51
drunkpunknight: i can burn salad almost as easily as i balls up stuff on here01:51
DasEiRafael: so least found, paste the /var/log/syslog (I assume the drive was connected at bootup)01:51
dinaQuestion: new to ubuntu I just install ubuntu 9.10 on a 64bit machine, before i install ubuntu I was able to go online with the live Cd. But after I installed ubuntu my computer won't conect to the internet. HELP PLEASE!01:51
RafaelDasEi: Yes i dont need to put a password to acces it from windows01:51
nighttrism: im not advertising01:51
richie0how can i tell if my disk is lvm or not?  i don't remember what i checked during install.01:51
nighttrism: i asked if someone is using twitter01:51
Dmolenight: I read http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MPD#Daemon_Install_Procedure but I'm still having issues making a playlist01:51
nightDmole: how?01:52
elfranneI am running Vbox 3.1 on ubuntu 9.10 trying to mount a raw partition but after grub i got error 15 ... any idea ?01:52
nightDmole: did you read ubuntu wiki first?01:52
RafaelDasEi: I'm not sure if it was connected at boot up. I can just reboot and boot from my ubuntu installation?01:52
mesutcimekenis anybody who has an idea how can i fix my sound problem01:52
EastDallasdina: hard-wired or wifi?01:52
nightDmole: like i told you to do?01:52
loshanight: it's off-topic, surely. Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic at the very least...01:52
DasEiRafael:sure01:52
nightlosha: ok ok, sorry01:52
kostkonmesutcimeken, give details please01:52
unkmarWhat does edd=on mean?01:52
nightDmole: anyway what are your issues with mpd?01:52
mesutcimekeni have sigma tel audio01:53
mmanEastDallas, sweet, it worked!! thanks!01:53
mesutcimekendirver01:53
mesutcimekendriver01:53
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nightDmole: and hurry up with typing, my laptop battery is on last 5-10%01:53
mesutcimekenbut i dont have a sound01:53
Flannelrichie0: `sudo fdisk -l` will show "Linux LVM" partitions (that command shows the partitions on the disk itself)01:53
DasEiberrybarry: sudo smartctl --log=error    /dev/sda             ,when done the test01:53
EastDallasmman:  Awesome!  Glad I could help!01:53
nightelfranne: you should ask vbox support for that :01:53
airtonixnight, you should find a power point01:54
mesutcimekenif you can help me to find info which you want ?01:54
mesutcimekenpls01:54
kostkonmesutcimeken, ubuntu version? also, could you open a terminal and give:  aplay -l   and post the output at paste.ubuntu.com01:54
nightairtonix: eh?01:54
mmanEastDallas, just have last question, someone was asking somthing i also had the problem01:54
richie0Flannel: so whatever shows up in that command is an lvm partition?  so i can't use gparted on them?01:54
FezzlerEastDallas>> Hydrogen "crackles"  - All I want is a working drum machine to lay some tracks  :)01:54
EastDallasdina: hard-wired or wifi?01:54
berrybarryDasEi ill be in the offtopic room ha01:54
dinawired01:55
Flannelrichie0: What?  If it shows up as "Linux LVM" partitions, thats part of the LVM, if you see ext partitions, those are 'normal' partitions01:55
mmanEastDallas, the hd says it has several bad sectors, i run the fsdisk and it run, but nevertheless it still says i have problems :S01:55
EastDallasFezzler does hydrogen require jack?01:55
mesutcimekenit says it is not instaled01:55
mesutcimekenshould i install it01:55
berrybarrymman bad sectors?01:55
Dmolenight: can't make a playlist or play anything01:55
nightDmole: anyway, skip all part of arch wiki till you get to mpd.conf, that's same for every distro01:55
kostkonmesutcimeken, you mean the terminal?01:55
mmanyes i have bad sectors01:55
nightDmole: did you make .mpdconf in your ~?01:56
mesutcimekenyes01:56
epinkydina: do you know what card is it?01:56
EastDallasmman:  I got that too on both my desktop and laptop when I upgraded to 9.10...so far no problems...:s01:56
berrybarrymman same here ha from porn I think its a bug01:56
Dmolenight: I'm using the /etc/ one01:56
nightDmole: system wide?01:56
FezzlerOkay, increasing buffer seems to be eliminating crackling in Hydrogen01:56
mesutcimekensigma tel audio01:56
Dmolenight: yes01:56
richie0Flannel: i'm sorry.  i ran the command but nowheree does is say lvm or ext.01:56
loshamman: that means your disk is failing. Make a backup of anything important immediately, then go shopping for a new disk01:56
kostkonmesutcimeken, what version of ubutnu do you have? also, how did oyu try to access the terminal?01:56
dinait's a realtek01:56
Dmolenight: it's a media server after all01:56
mmanhahaha so you think its actually a bug :P01:56
macoberrybarry: um.  no. adult images dont ruin hard disks01:56
Flannelrichie0: If you pastebin the output of it, I'll help sort it out01:56
epinkydina: realtek ....01:56
nightDmole: true, can you check if you have mpd.conf.example then installed somewhere?01:56
FezzlerSo all, are there advantages of using JACK?01:57
kostkonmesutcimeken, check in applications → accessories01:57
mesutcimekeni have ubuntu 9.1001:57
macoberrybarry: and ya know...we dont really need to know youve got that01:57
richie0Flannel: thank you!01:57
kostkonmesutcimeken, you should have a "Terminal" menu item in there01:57
berrybarrymaco ha ok01:57
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Dmolenight: well I think the one i am using is a copy of that because it's full of comments01:57
mesutcimekeni am in the terminal now01:57
nightDmole: yep, you're using the copy then01:57
kostkonmesutcimeken, oh good. now give:  aplay -l01:57
mesutcimekenterminal says alsa is not installed , do you wanna install01:58
kostkonmesutcimeken, hmm. interesting01:58
Dmolenight: I'm trying not to run mpd –create-db because it might take a year~01:58
kostkonmesutcimeken, ok. w801:58
epinkydina: post results of "sudo lspci" , use pastebin01:58
didivpsomeone had problems with open areno in ubuntu 9.10?01:58
feifongwongthis linux install is a basic media PC, I just need a location to store all the movies, etc. I can reinstall the whole operation system will out worrying.01:58
didivp*open arena01:58
Flannelfeifongwong: /home01:58
EastDallasfezzler....if you want to try using it with jack, all you have to do is install jack (sudo apt-get install jackd) and Jack Control (sudo apt-get install qjackctl).  Then you can open Jack Control from the sound and video menu, start jack, then open hydrogen.01:58
nightDmole: quick question, what is your error?01:58
mmannice, thank you all you guys:)01:58
Dmolenight: no errors just no sound01:59
nightDmole: there *must* have been some output in terminal01:59
kostkonmesutcimeken, actually, did you by any chance remove alsa and then tried to install oss?01:59
nightDmole: no sound only when you use mpd/ncmpc?01:59
nightDmole: or no sound at all01:59
feifongwongFlannel EastDallas sebsebseb  : thanks01:59
richie0Flannel: here's that pastebin:  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2690a21d  i want to shrink my / partition and increase my windows.01:59
mac9416When running 'xterm -e "gksu apt-get install <package>" && read', the xterm will not accept <enter> or arrow keys. Any ideas?01:59
mesutcimekenyes i did01:59
Dmolenight: there is mpd said listing playlists return 0 and mpc said nothing01:59
kostkonmesutcimeken, :/01:59
berrybarryDasEi I would think its done :(01:59
Dmolenight: I have sound from mplayer02:00
sebsebsebfeifongwong: ok,  and by the way you can move  home to a seperate partition after install02:00
Dmolenight: and mpd said it found an oss driver to use02:00
Flannelrichie0: Those are standard linux partitions (ext, likely) not LVM, sorry, I thought it said ext3.  Anyway, yes, you use gparted (from a liveCD)02:00
mesutcimekeni went to help website , and it says alsa can not support this kinda drivers thatsway you should install oss02:00
DezineLately, my computer has been locking up randomly. There's no way out of it other than pushing the reset button. I thought it was the HD but it does it with the live cd too. Wanted to see if anyone had thoughts on how to fix this.02:00
mesutcimekenthen everthing come worst02:00
mesutcimeken:)02:00
kostkonmesutcimeken, could you tell me the reason, if you could02:00
nightDmole: ok can you check the line mixer_type?02:00
rafase282hello its me rafael02:00
nightDmole: does it have # in front?02:00
kostkonmesutcimeken, oh ok02:00
DmoleI think it's not "no sound" so much as "no playlist or files playing"02:00
rafase282DasEi: are you still here?02:01
richie0Flannel: thanks!  is it as straightforward as setting up the partiotions during the install?02:01
coolcathi folks, I am updating some files in my web page via scp, but when access thefile via browser I still get the old version, if I remove it via ssh my browser still finds it, any ideas about what is happening?02:01
kostkonmesutcimeken, hmm02:01
KB1JWQcoolcat: Cache issue.02:01
KB1JWQcoolcat: Or you're uploading the wrong files. :))02:01
FezzlerIn Windows, I can record sounds from my computer (like YouTube audio) in Audacity by selecting Stereo Mixer - Can't do that in Ubuntu Audacity?  Why?02:01
Flannelrichie0: Pretty much, yeah.  Shrink one, expand the other (well, its a bit more complicated because you're moving the beginning, but I believe gparted takes care of all of that nowadays)02:01
nightDmole: hmm btw on ubuntu you probably have pa so you need to allow mpd access to audio system02:01
EastDallasfezzler: The coolest thing about jack is that it's set up just like real audio equipment, so you can add filters and effects to be used in real time or with recorded audio.  just open Synaptic and search on Jack.  YOu can install a bunch of the components, start jack as I stated earlier, and then play around with jack stack and jack eq, etc...02:01
richie0Flannel: cool.  thaks for the help.02:01
mesutcimekenoss didnt work... should i install again or what ?02:02
nightDmole: you do this by typing sudo usermod -aG pulse,pulse-access mpd02:02
coolcatKB1JWQ, I'm sure I'm not, so ... clean the cache .02:02
Dmolenight: cat  /etc/mpd.conf |grep mixer_type is all commented out02:02
EastDallasfezzler, you can do it using the patch panel on jack.02:02
nightDmole: uncomment mixer_type "software"02:02
Dmolenight: yes pulse is correct02:02
DezineIs there a way to log Ubuntu so I can see what's going on when it crashes?02:02
nightDmole: (i think)02:02
nightDmole: yep, in your var/log02:02
nighterrr02:02
nightDezine: var/log02:02
berrybarryDasEi no errors logged02:03
Dezineok ty02:03
rafase282I need help with my USB WD HDD02:03
DezineWhen it locks up not even the MagicSysKey trick works02:03
EastDallasfezzler:  PatchBay, not patch panel02:03
kostkonmesutcimeken, eh, hmm, i think it would be better to install alsa again. but for now, could you give this in a terminal:  lspci | grep audio02:03
epinkyrafase282: is it mounted?02:04
cheeko>in ktorrent the torrent which is the top most gets to be donloaded but in normal bit torrent i f ther are 3 torrents to be dloaded all of them work simultaneously02:04
mesutcimekeni did it didnt do anything02:04
nightDezine: like i said, check your var/log02:04
kostkonmesutcimeken, no output?! hmm02:04
rafase282epinky: it wont mount02:04
nightDmole: did you uncomment mixer_type "software" ?02:04
DezineWhich file? There are a ton.02:05
nightDmole: and allow mpd to access audio?02:05
Dmolenight: did both and mpc add test.mp3  did nothing02:05
epinkyrafase282: sudo fdisk -l02:05
nightDmole: o,02:05
mesutcimekenno output ? haa !02:05
kostkonmesutcimeken, then, could you give: lspci02:05
kostkonmesutcimeken, what type of pc do you have? is it a laptop?02:05
mesutcimekenlaptop02:06
mesutcimekenlg le 5002:06
nightDmole: so sudo usermod -aG pulse,pulse-audio mpd didnt help?02:06
Dmolenight: mpd said "client 0: process command list returned 0"02:06
DasEiberrybarry: so it seems you're fine, if smart reports no errors, sure it's not the filesystem (the longer test is more precise, though) re-check again by :02:06
rafase282http://pastebin.com/f16463b9b02:06
nightDmole: err pulse-access*02:06
rafase282epinky: http://pastebin.com/f16463b9b02:06
mesutcimeken Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Device 5a31 (rev 01)02:06
mesutcimeken00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge02:06
mesutcimeken00:07.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge02:06
mesutcimeken00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80)02:06
mesutcimeken00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80)02:06
mesutcimeken00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller (rev 80)02:06
FloodBot2mesutcimeken: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.02:06
nightmesutcimeken: pastebin02:06
DasEiberrybarry: sudo smrtctl -a /dev/sda02:07
rafase282Hey DasEi!02:07
kostkonmesutcimeken, not here. use a pastebin!02:07
nightDmole: well.. hmm idk i didnt have problems with mpd on ubuntu after adding it to pulse and pulse-access groups02:07
mesutcimekensorry ? i just pasted my info , sorry02:07
DasEirafase282: saw you already02:07
kostkonmesutcimeken, use paste.ubuntu.com02:07
rafase282DasEi: What did you wanted me to show you after the reboot? I installed pastebinit already02:08
nightDmole: did you create-db first?02:08
DasEirafase282:should be there by default; recheck : sudo apt-get install usb-utils02:08
kostkonmesutcimeken, also give:  lsusb    and paste the output again02:08
DasEirafase282:pastebinit /var/log/syslog02:08
berrybarryDasEi no errors logged02:08
DasEip02:08
richie0try02:08
mesutcimekenBus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub02:09
mesutcimekenBus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub02:09
mesutcimekenBus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub02:09
nightmesutcimeken: pastebin02:09
raul_what does a dot means before a directory name?02:09
nightDmole: shit battery dead... =/02:09
nightand no charger nearby02:09
kostkonmesutcimeken, always use paste.ubuntu.com if you need to paste more than 1 line02:09
nightso that means... later02:09
rafase282DasEi: usb utils is installed02:09
Dmolenight: thanks any way02:09
Dmolenight: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342296/02:09
mesutcimekensorry what is pastebin ?02:09
nightDmole: np02:09
epinky!pastebin > mesutcimeken02:09
ubottumesutcimeken, please see my private message02:09
richie0raul_: that's a hidden directory.02:09
kostkon!paste | mesutcimeken02:10
ubottumesutcimeken: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic02:10
cheekoi have ktorrent as my torrent clent whaen ever i put 2-3 torrents to gether to download only the first one starts to download the rest two of them sit idle is ther any other better torrent clent which downloads all torrents simultaneously02:10
swamy2hi02:10
mesutcimekenhaaa ok , it is an other website for this , ok ok02:10
macocheeko: there's a setting for how many to work on at once02:10
cheekook how do i confogure that02:11
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Dmolenight: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342300/  (shorter)02:13
mesutcimeken1 2 3Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub02:13
mesutcimekenhaaaa ok . now i get it !02:13
kostkonmesutcimeken, ;)02:13
mesutcimekenthanks how should i paste it02:13
oo_sevenim just securing my acer laptop before installing ubuntu on it. and i found out i have 3 partioins on it (PQSERVICE, SYSTEM RESERVED, and ACER)02:14
oo_seveni guess i only need to secure the MBR and the frist one02:14
ShazbotMcNastyI'm trying to install ext2ifs on my windows computer so I can move files from there to my ubuntu computer.02:14
ShazbotMcNastyBUT02:14
ShazbotMcNastyit's not working02:14
kostkonmesutcimeken, just paste the outputs of lspci and lsusb together and give us the link02:14
oo_sevenim doing a dd ot them, any idea if i need to secure anything else?02:14
ShazbotMcNastyand if/when the partitions are recognised, it says I have to format the drives. Does anyone know why?? ?02:14
virustbtar.bz2 ?? how do i install ???02:14
ShazbotMcNastywhat02:14
rafase282DasEi: it is too long02:15
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geniioo_seven: Acer has an F10 booting feature which is a disk-to-disk direct copy backup system. If you remove the "system reserved" make sure you turn off that feature in the bios02:15
mgolischShazbotMcNasty: it probably didnt install correctly02:15
rafase282DasEi: http://www.zshare.net/download/69944849233510e8/02:16
ShazbotMcNastyI've uninstalled it, reinstalled it, rebooted, uninstalled, restarted, reinstalled02:16
ShazbotMcNastyeverythinggggg02:16
oo_sevengenii: i thought the F10 is part of the programm in the MBR, and uses the PQSERVICE02:16
virustb.tar.bz2 ?? how do i install ???02:16
epinkyShazbotMcNasty: afaik, ext2fs is a driver to read ext2/ext3 partitions on windows02:16
oo_sevenand assumed system reserved is part of windows02:16
DasEiberrybarry: so you shouldn't get error messages then, disable smart to stop the annoyance, and frequently, depending on drives usage and age, run a test manually, hdparms nows an option, but that worked for ides mostly, not ata drives02:16
mesutcimekenthis is the first link http://paste.ubuntu.com/342303/02:17
oo_sevenvirustb: tar -xvjf yourfile.tar.bz2 ?02:17
geniioo_seven: No idea how it specifically goes. However, I hosed an install with it by accident (after using entire drive for linux install)02:17
oo_sevenouch02:18
oo_sevenand everything was gone02:18
oo_seven?02:18
geniioo_seven: Yes02:18
mgolischShazbotMcNasty: what do you use as filesystem? the current ubuntu releases uses ext4 by default the ext2ifs page doesnt say it supports ext402:18
oo_sevenlike the computer was put back into the INITIAL state after purchasing02:18
rafase282DasEi: Disk utility says unrecognized, not partitioned02:18
mgolischShazbotMcNasty: also did you use the ext2ifs control panel thing to configure the partitions/volumes?02:18
oo_sevengenii: i want to have linux and win in parallel02:18
ShazbotMcNastymgolisch, ext3, and is the control panel during installation?02:19
oo_sevenoo_seven: coz my xubuntu seems to be unfortunatelly still to powerconsuming02:19
mesutcimekenkostkon did you get it ?02:19
Thoven78Question: how do i sync my mp3 player with Rhythmbox?02:19
mgolischShazbotMcNasty: no you open it from control panel and configure what drives to map a letter to02:19
mgolischShazbotMcNasty: etc02:19
kostkonmesutcimeken, ah, let's see02:19
ShwackDoes anybody use mibbit as a gateway to their IRC channel?02:19
MenZa!ot | Shwack02:19
ubottuShwack: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!02:19
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DasEirafase282:lots of errors in syslog,  Add. Sense: Logical block address out of range02:20
kostkonmesutcimeken, aha, it's Audio, that' why grep couldn't find it :S  it was case sensitive. anyway02:20
oo_seveni can not connect to my wireless netowrk as long as it does not broadcast the SSII (or how its called). is this a bug? or only my misunderstanding of something?02:20
rafase282DasEi: ??? do what?02:20
DasEirafase282:it's not your lappi not supporting that disk size ?02:20
kostkonmesutcimeken, ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01) that's your sound card02:20
brent23Is there a special way to get ubuntu to allow me to delete the windows directory on my windows partition?02:21
ShazbotMcNastymgolisch, i'll do that02:21
rafase282DasEi: I dont know it shows 2199 GB unrecognized on disk utility02:21
oo_sevenbrent23: do you have read and write access to this partition?02:21
mgolischbrent23: it doenst allow that?02:21
DasEibrent23: gparted02:21
kostkonmesutcimeken, eh, i believe it could work with alsa, maybe after installing the backported drivers02:21
usr13oo_seven: If your WiFi router does not broadcast the essid, you will need to manually set the client's essid.02:21
brent23It's protecting me02:21
rafase282that must be the partition for backup02:21
brent23er it.02:21
oo_sevenusr13: did it02:21
mgolischbrent23: usualy ntfs-3g doenst care too much about permissions02:21
brent23I have full access02:21
kostkonmesutcimeken, definitely, oss is not the solution, i believe02:21
mesutcimekenis it ?02:21
Crash1hdlosha: IS there a way to get the fsck to run without me having to sit infront of it hitting enter everytime it ask?02:22
derenrichhow bad would removing a usb boot stick after ubuntu boot'd? instant crash?02:22
DasEibrent23: mussnt be mounted02:22
usr13oo_seven: sudo dhclient02:22
mesutcimekenok but it didnt work02:22
rafase282DasEi: that must be the partition for back up since the rest should be for my files which should be more02:22
mesutcimekenshould i try it again02:22
brent23I have to unmount it?02:22
kostkonmesutcimeken, it didn't work anyway, yeah02:22
oo_sevenusr13: ok will check this one thx02:22
Guest61782i am trying to edit a file with the extension .gld and can not open it...the readme says to use GDE but im getting nowhere with that02:22
epinkymgolisch: ShazbotMcNasty wants to copy TO Ubuntu not FROM Ubuntu, "on my windows computer so I can move files from there to my ubuntu computer"02:22
ShwackMenZa: I am considering asking how to install IE and run it on ubuntu here.  But the reason I need to do this is to try and figure out a way to get my mibbit chat room to stop showing black screens to IE users.  If there was an easy fix i wanted to do that before trying to run IE on ubuntu.02:22
DasEirafase282: did you do the parttiion with ubunut ?02:22
kostkonmesutcimeken, i mean with oss. eh, if you could remove oss and reinstall asla. how did oyu install oss?02:22
loshaCrash1hd: you can run fsck -y but note that if it's asking a lot of questions, it's a bad sign.....02:22
* DasEi fetches kaffeine02:22
Crash1hdlosha: no doubt02:23
DaZderenrich: if you have much of ram you can make linux to work in it02:23
FlannelShwack: Mibbit users can't connect to freenode, so this network's probably a bad one to ask02:23
marks256What is the technical term for DynDNS? Something where the client has a dynamic IP address, and sends the DNS server and updated ip02:23
rafase282DasEi: should I try the erase from disk utility? and yes I used windows 7 and ubuntu02:23
Flannelmarks256: Dynamic DNS02:23
gagitalost grub menu.lst ufter upgrade to kernel 2.6.31-17-generic02:23
mesutcimekeni was using alsa then it stoped to work then i tried to fiw it but no way02:23
Crash1hdlosha: its not a lot (but a lot is a realative term) its just asking them infrequently I think so far it has asked 8 times02:23
ShwackFlannel: thank you - I guess I should just ask how to run IE on ubuntu and print the results in case i need them02:23
mgolischepinky: yeah i know thastwhy i told to use the ext2ifs control panel item in the system control panel to configure the partitions for ext2ifs02:24
mesutcimekenthen i found i fix help in helpubuntu02:24
marks256Flannel, so if i wanted to look into building my own dyndns "clone," i'd look for a Dynamic DNS how to?02:24
Flannel!ies4linux | Shwack02:24
ubottuShwack: ies4linux is a script that quickly and effortlessly helps you install 3 versions of IE in Wine. Information can be found at http://www.tatanka.com.br/ies4linux/page/Main_Page including instructions specifically for Ubuntu. ies4linux is aimed at web designers and ie-only sites, so please, don’t use any of the IEs to navigate! Use Firefox!02:24
oo_sevenusr13: a lot of DHCPDISCOVERS and in the ent NO DHCPEOFFERS :(02:24
DasEirafase282: no, you'll loose your data then, first try :02:24
Flannelmarks256: Erm, I guess, yeah.02:24
mesutcimekenthen i removed alsa and install the oss02:24
usr13Shwack: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-install-internet-explorer-on-linux.html02:24
loshaCrash1hd: ok, that's not bad. When it gets in the hundreds it's time to worry...02:24
ShwackFlannel: thank you very much!!!02:24
Crash1hdlosha: It said that it exited with a status 402:24
Crash1hdlosha: lol02:24
DasEirafase282:sudo hdparm -z /dev/sdb02:24
usr13oo_seven: Sure you have the essid correct?02:24
mesutcimekenand it didnt work also02:24
oo_sevenusr13: i set the name and password in the user interface provided by the little network icon, in xfce.02:24
Crash1hdlosha: do you know what the issue is?02:24
kostkonmesutcimeken, ok02:24
marks256Flannel, i already found GnuDIP, but that is no longer being maintained02:24
usr13oo_seven: iwconfig02:24
mesutcimeken:)02:24
kostkonmesutcimeken, but it was working with alsa, at least for a short time02:25
mesutcimekenyes it did02:25
Crash1hdlosha: if its currently running is there a way to stop it so that I can add the -y to it?02:25
oo_sevenusr13: NO ESSID assigned!02:25
usr13oo_seven: iwconfig eth0 essid linksys  #Where linksys is essid of your WiFi router.02:25
rafase282DasEi:  re-reading partition table02:25
rafase282 BLKRRPART failed: Input/output error02:25
DasEirafase282:reread succesfull ?02:25
derenrichDaZ: sure, but a default stick I assume will just cry if it is removed02:25
macousr13, oo_seven: sudo that02:25
loshaCrash1hd: actually, it's risky to interrupt a running fsck....02:25
rafase282DasEi: no02:26
DasEirafase282:sudo fdsik -l   now ?02:26
usr13oo_seven: #And where eth0 is the wireless device02:26
oo_sevenusr13: iits wlan0 in my case02:26
oo_sevenusr13: did it02:26
usr13oo_seven: Yes, as maco says, use sudo.02:26
bob__how can i edit a file with .gld extension02:26
kostkonmesutcimeken, that's a good sign. eh, so, what do you think? do you want to install alsa again?02:26
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Crash1hdlosha: of course just going to be really slow process as I have to go downstairs to check it02:26
oo_sevenusr13: but how do i change the password02:26
usr13oo_seven: sudo dhclient02:26
oo_sevenor set it?02:26
oo_sevenkk02:26
mesutcimekeni dont know02:26
rafase282DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f382aef6d02:26
usr13oo_seven: password?02:26
brent23hmm02:26
loshaCrash1hd: good exercise....02:26
DasEirafase282: something is wrong with the descriptor, did you unplug the drive from running windows ? no clean shutdown ?02:27
usr13oo_seven: Password to what?02:27
Crash1hdlosha: lol true (wishing I had homers bird)02:27
oo_sevenusr13: ah my network is secured02:27
loshaCrash1hd: :-)02:27
rafase282DasEi: I dont remember02:27
oo_sevenusr13: PSA PErsonal02:27
mesutcimekenif you want i can . however i will learn like that02:27
gagitaI lost my menu.lst after upgrade to 2.6.31-17-generic, where can I got it back?02:27
usr13oo_seven: What type of encryption?02:27
rafase282DasEi: lets assumes that to be a yes?02:27
oo_sevenusr13: WPA personal02:27
mesutcimekeninstall remove install again02:27
brent23gonna try something02:27
mesutcimeken:)02:27
macooo_seven: you should use /etc/network/interfaces then02:27
brent23brb if it doesn't work.02:27
DasEirafase282: have got a running windows around ?02:28
oo_sevenmaco: ill have a look inside that one02:28
rafase282on a acer mini, windows 7 starter02:28
usr13!wpa | oo_seven02:28
ubottuoo_seven: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs02:28
rafase282or win 7 bis on this but i would have to reboot02:28
oo_sevenusr13: i again get no DHCPOOFFERS due to the missing "password" im afraid02:28
abuqutaitahey guys02:28
macooo_seven: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342310/02:28
rafase282and i have mac leopard installed too and it does not read it02:28
macooo_seven: then "sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifup wlan0"02:28
abuqutaitai just finished an install of ubuntu (single OS system) and grub doesn't load02:28
rafase282what should I try on windows?02:29
rafase282oh i have another laptop with windows xp02:29
rafase282very slow02:29
usr13oo_seven: What is your wireless device?  lspci |grep -i wireless02:29
loshaabuqutaita: which os version?02:29
rafase282DasEi: can I pm? i keep forgetting to type your name before i post02:29
DasEirafase282: do so, see if the drive gets found, then use safely remove hardware, that would fix that issue, can also do a chkdsk -f on it02:29
abuqutaitalosha: 9.1002:29
abuqutaitait's a server install, but i have a seperate /boot partition02:29
abuqutaitaand i set it active02:30
mesutcimekenkostkon should i install alsa again02:30
mesutcimeken?02:30
loshaabuqutaita: that's grub2, Sorry, I can't help. If all else fails, go to 8.04....02:30
kostkonmesutcimeken, i would recommend you to install it again, yes02:30
mesutcimekenok02:30
usr13!grub2 | abuqutaita02:30
ubottuabuqutaita: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub202:30
mesutcimekenjust a second02:30
mesutcimekenpls02:30
kostkonmesutcimeken, but oyu need to remove oss. how did you install it?02:31
abuqutaitait's like a pre-grub error02:31
mesutcimekenreally i dont know02:31
abuqutaitagrub never loads02:31
abuqutaitano errors or anything02:31
abuqutaitai have a Boot from CD (nothing in there), then it tries the HDD02:31
abuqutaitathen it just ha sa blinking cursor02:31
mesutcimekeni guess i couldnt install that02:31
mesutcimekentoo02:31
kostkonmesutcimeken, hmm02:31
abuqutaitausr13: that wiki is not useful02:32
gagitaI can still boot to my karmic box, that there are no menu.lst in my /boot/grub directory02:32
oo_sevenusr13: will check the device name , waiting for the ifup now02:32
abuqutaitagagita: it's now grub.cfg02:32
gagitaokay02:33
gagitaabuqutaita: okay, let me check02:33
ZummiG777Question: I'm running a dual screen setup (karmic) - is it possible to have individual backgrounds for each screen?02:33
oo_sevenusr13: Intel Corporation WiFi Link 100 Series02:33
gagitaabuqutaita: I found it, tnx a lot02:34
abuqutaitagagita: np02:34
oo_sevenmaco: after ifup ifdown i have No DHCPOFfers again02:34
usr13oo_seven: I do not know for sure, but that one may not be fully supported, in which case you will need to turn WPA off on the router.02:34
oo_sevenusr13: it worked already when i have my SSID boradcasting on02:35
Nautiluswhat do I install to get the GD library?02:35
oo_sevenusr13: i set it up via this GUI that ships with xubuntu02:35
usr13oo_seven: Ok, well if it worked before, should work again...02:35
Amalagyhey02:35
Amalagythis is being received badly02:35
oo_sevenusr13: but i turned the SSID off again02:35
Amalagyhttp://ubuntusatanic.org/news/about/02:35
usr13oo_seven: Use the GUI again..02:35
guysterEastDallas, thanks much for the tip earlier on the sandisk.  That web site worked perfectly.02:35
Amalagyvery very badly02:35
Amalagymaking linux seem like it is for devil worshippers ?02:35
oo_sevenusr13: ir works only if i broadcast the SSID , which i do not want ;)02:35
Amalagyand using the ubuntu distro to do it ?02:35
Amalagyyou guys ?02:35
mesutcimekenhi.kostkon i did and i have to reeboot now02:35
macooo_seven: if you do "iwconfig" did it associate?02:35
Amalagythis needs to be stopped.02:35
macooo_seven: just plain "iwconfig"02:35
mesutcimekeni ll be back thanks and see you02:36
kostkonmesutcimeken, ok02:36
usr13oo_seven: Set the essid permanent02:36
Amalagyit's putting a highly negative air on ubuntu02:36
Amalagyvery negative02:36
oo_sevenusr13: access point : not assscoiated02:36
Amalagysince satan stands for everything evil02:36
kostkon!ot | Amalagy02:36
ubottuAmalagy: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!02:36
usr13oo_seven: Use the GUI again..02:36
Amalagywhere are the ubuntu coders ?02:36
oo_sevenok02:36
macooo_seven: try again? i know i sometimes have to try 2-3 times depending on where i am02:36
macooo_seven: my school's ap doesnt always associate quickly02:37
mythomaniacman... how low we've gone: http://ubuntusatanic.org/news/about/02:37
oo_sevendo in eed MOde: infrastructure or Ad-hoc?02:37
macouhh whats wrong with SE?02:38
macooo_seven: Managed02:38
macooo_seven: oh wait gui. infrastructure02:38
usr13oo_seven: infrastructure02:38
shyis this a good place to ask total newbie questions?02:38
oo_seventhe NetworkMAnager (thats the name of the gui) only shows this two of them02:38
kostkonshy, yeap02:38
shyoh thank you kostkon02:38
guysterMay I please ask a question about ubuntu sound?02:39
shyi have been a computer user for 12 years, so i am not totally new to them02:39
shybut ubuntu is all brand new02:39
MenZashy: Any questions are welcome here :)02:39
i_is_broke!ask02:39
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)02:39
oo_sevenusr13 & maco: i configured it in the gui, and now i can go to : connect to hiddden wireless network, however when i select my Wireless connection1 the COnnect button is graye out02:39
oo_sevengrayd out02:40
shyoo thank you, very friendly here02:40
oo_sevenim afraid this just does NOT work for hidden networks02:40
MenZashy: we try to be. :)02:40
ubuntu-userhello im on Ubuntu live cd now. i just formated and reinstalled windows... witch command line should i follow to re-Install Grub.. ?? thanks02:40
shythen i will just sit and watch for a while, i learned alot of what i know from doing just that02:40
macooo_seven: thatd be a regression then02:40
MenZa!grub2 | ubuntu-user02:40
ubottuubuntu-user: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub202:40
usr13oo_seven: Might be simpler to turn broadcast essid back on (on the router).02:41
macooo_seven: i definitely remember hidden networks working 2 years ago02:41
usr13oo_seven: Do you really need if turned off?02:41
oo_sevenusr13: no not really02:41
mesutcimekenhi folks02:41
ubuntu-usersudo grub-install02:42
ubuntu-userMenZa could you give me the commands i dont undesteand what it says there...\02:42
mesutcimekeni have a goodnews , have the same problem still02:42
i_is_brokeubuntu-user, i believe its sudo install-grub202:42
MenZaubuntu-user: All I can suggest is reading that document. I've not been in a situation requiring the re-install of GRUB before.02:42
ShazbotMcNastymgolisch, the control panel thingy gave the same options as during the installation of the driver02:42
tblake3I am trying to get a Netzero free account so I can use my cell phone as a modem for my palm on the occasions that wifi is not available.  The page does not load correctly on my palm to see the captcha to sign up.  I can't use my home computer because I think it sees that my OS if Ubuntu and doesn't like that.  Is there a way to project my os as windows to get by that?02:42
abuqutaitacan the installer not handle lvms ?02:43
ubuntu-usersomeone help me please...02:43
guysterI am running Jaunty and have upgraded alsa to 1.0.21 to gain support for my creative xfi.  I have disabled pulseausio, using a guide at idylictux.wordpress.com, and after my upgrade, some of my sounds have weird distortion.  Including a loud constant buzz in stella, an sdl-based atari 2600 emulator.  Any way to fix this?02:43
mesutcimekenit says connection refused02:43
mesutcimeken:)02:43
mgolischShazbotMcNasty: hm maybe your drive is not ext3/ext2? or its damaged or something went wrong, no idea02:43
ShazbotMcNastyno, it is ext302:43
ShazbotMcNastyit's external drive02:44
ubuntu-userhello im on Ubuntu live cd now. i just formated and reinstalled windows... witch command line should i follow to re-Install Grub.. ?? thanks.. dont give me link but list of commands.. :S02:44
mesutcimekenkostkon hi02:44
trismubuntu-user: the link has the list of commands, read the recover grub2 from livecd section02:44
kostkonmesutcimeken, hi. where do you get this error? in sound prefs?02:44
i_is_brokeubuntu-user, i did once.sudo install-grub2 again02:44
oso3000hello, i'd like to amplify the volume of my speakers, more than the maximum allowed by the sound preferences dialog... is there any way ?02:44
oo_sevenusr13 & maco, there was also some question that i need to enter some kind of password (keyring or something) and kept then asking me again and again if i allow access to some file02:44
mesutcimekenyes kostkon02:44
usr13ubuntu-user: You need to chroot to the system.  Better to boot to rescue mode02:44
macooo_seven: the keyring stores your passwords02:45
kostkonmesutcimeken, ok. eh, could you now give again: aplay -l and see if it will list your card02:45
starcannonubuntu-user https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:45
usr13oo_seven: I really don't know much about configuring WPA authentication.02:45
ubuntu-userp.s. i got 2 hds..02:45
i_is_brokeubuntu-user, read the docs given to you then..idk02:45
ubuntu-userubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sda02:46
ubuntu-usermkdir: cannot create directory `/media/root/boot': No such file or directory02:46
starcannonoo_seven it was probably asking you if you wanted to add your WPA key to the keyring manager in Ubuntu, and if so, it wanted your user password for permission to do so02:46
shycould someone give me a url for basics and i mean basic english meaning for ubuntu terms?02:46
mgolischShazbotMcNasty: http://www.fs-driver.org/troubleshoot.html the first thing looks like exactly your problem02:46
RPG_MasterCan anyone here help me with setting up a AT&T 3g USB stick with Ubuntu?02:46
ubuntu-userhelp me pls someone02:47
mgolischShazbotMcNasty: id guess the filesystem is not clean or something02:47
usr13ubuntu-user: Like I said, you will heed to chroot to the system first.02:47
mesutcimekenkostkon : no soundcarts found02:47
starcannonshy; do you mean basic terminal (command line) terminology ?02:47
kostkonmesutcimeken, :/02:47
ShazbotMcNastywell pooOOOoOooooooooOoOoOo02:47
mesutcimekendid you like it  :)02:47
DasEishy : you want a strter guide ?02:47
DasEia*02:47
ubuntu-useruser13: how i do that...???02:47
shyi know terminal line commands, i have had ubuntu before, but i was just hitting and missing i need to know what some of this stuff means02:47
starcannonubuntu-user; usr13 is telling you correctly, and that link I gave you, shows how to do what he is saying02:47
usr13!chroot | ubuntu-user02:48
ubottuubuntu-user: chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot)02:48
starcannonubuntu-user https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows02:48
oo_sevenusr13: ok but thanx a lot for your time! and you told ma a lot of new commands i never saw before02:48
shyi have a starter guide,, uumm i was just lucky on lots, i want to know the basic english version of what it all means02:48
usr13oo_seven: very well. :)02:48
shylike root, i know it is basics of it02:48
shywhere it it on the tree?02:48
DasEishy: man <cmd>, like man dd02:49
shybottom?02:49
oo_sevenmaybe i did some mistake during this keyring questioning02:49
kostkonmesutcimeken, eh, try:  asoundconf list02:49
starcannonshy; give an example of what you'd like to know, and lets actually move this over to #ubuntu-offtopic as its really not so much a support issue as it is an educational one02:49
mesutcimekenin terminal ?02:49
Tim2009ubuntu-user - is your sda drive mounted?02:49
shylol i learned backwards on this and i want to learn it from scratch02:49
kostkonmesutcimeken, yes02:49
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mesutcimekencommand not found ?02:50
shystarcannon, thank you, but i will just watch and learn..i will get the hang of it02:50
shythis is for others to learn in and get help02:50
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starcannonshy; np, whatever works best for you :)02:50
shythank you i appreciate it :)02:50
kostkonmesutcimeken, ok. eh then try installing: asoundconf-gtk02:51
kostkonmesutcimeken, also, install: linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic02:52
ubuntu-userubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l02:52
ubuntu-userCannot open /dev/sda02:52
ubuntu-userCannot open /dev/sdb02:52
kostkonmesutcimeken, you'll need to reboot afterwards02:52
shykarmic is a distro of linux?02:52
starcannonshy; do you know about "man <command>"?02:52
shyno star02:52
shyi am terminal aphobic02:53
loshaubuntu-user: *sudo* before the command...02:53
kostkonshy, karmic is the codename of Ubuntu 9.10. ubutnu is a linux based OS, or a linux distro if you like to call it like this.02:53
DasEi!karmic | shy02:53
ubottushy: Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/91002:53
starcannonshy; ah, well that is extremely handy when wanting to learn what a thing does instead of just knowing you need to do it02:53
shythank you kostkon02:53
shyi thought so02:53
starcannonshy; for instance, "man ls" without quotes02:53
mesutcimekenok thanks kostkon02:53
shyah let me pull up a terminal, and thank you :)02:53
starcannonshy; np anytime02:54
DasEishy : or query the bot, see :02:54
shywhoooaa brb reading02:54
ubuntu-userlosha: could u help me in prv?02:54
DasEi!brain > shy02:54
ubottushy, please see my private message02:54
mesutcimekensorry ! kostkon ? second one for karmic it says command not found02:54
shyubottu, i prefer no private messages02:54
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:54
loshaubuntu-user: please keep it on the main channel so others can advise/observer02:54
kostkonmesutcimeken, which one?02:54
kostkonmesutcimeken, do you mean?02:55
mesutcimekenlinux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic02:55
mesutcimekenthis one02:55
starcannonshy; you can also "man man" and learn more about the manuals themselves02:55
oso3000hello, i'd like to amplify the volume of my speakers, more than the maximum allowed by the sound preferences dialog... is there any way?02:55
kostkonmesutcimeken, eh, actually, this is a package to install02:55
ubuntu-user  Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System02:55
ubuntu-user/dev/sdb1   *           1       22687   182233296    7  HPFS/NTFS02:55
ubuntu-user/dev/sdb2           22688       30515    62878410    5  Extended02:55
ubuntu-user/dev/sdb5           22688       30190    60267816   83  Linux02:55
ubuntu-user/dev/sdb6           30191       30515     2610531   82  Linux swap / Solaris02:55
FloodBot2ubuntu-user: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.02:55
obscureamazing02:56
ubuntu-userhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/342321/02:56
shystar i have a wonderful little directory, but its a bit above me, i kind of went the opposite of what i should have02:56
ubuntu-userlosha: see what i get.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/342321/02:56
mesutcimekenok sorry how can i install that ?02:56
ubuntu-userwhat should i do now02:56
shythe one you gave me is letting me see exactly what i need to,, :)02:56
shybut i will ask questions02:56
loshaubuntu-user: er, just what are you trying to do?02:56
kostkonmesutcimeken, using synaptic install "linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic" and "asoundconf-gtk"02:57
kostkonmesutcimeken, or in terminal you just give: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic asoundconf-gtk02:57
ubuntu-userto re-install grub02:57
loshaubuntu-user: which os version?02:57
Dr_Willisoso3000:  i know using the vlc player. it can let you do that.  Not sure about other programs02:57
shyon ls you put it as ls -c is the command to list entries by column?02:57
starcannonoso3000 you could try alsamixer from the command line... not sure if that will help your situation or not02:58
oso3000Dr_Willis, thanks but i meant for the whole system02:58
shya space in between the ls and the - c?02:58
Dr_Willisshy:  try it and see. :) there is no space after the -02:58
mezquitaleshy, "ls -la"02:58
Dr_Willisls -c02:58
oso3000starcannon, alsamixer is already maxed out, i meant amplify above the default limits02:58
ubuntu-userlosha: ubuntu02:58
shyoh duh i do have a terminal up :D02:58
ubuntu-userlastest yesterday i updated02:58
ubuntu-userand formated my windows today02:58
rahdukei just compiled and installed mplayer with vdpau, how do i check to see if it's working02:59
mesutcimekenok now i am doing it02:59
ubuntu-userubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sda02:59
abuqutaitarahduke: try running mplayer from console02:59
ubuntu-userThe file /media/root/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly02:59
loshaubuntu-user: sorry, can't help you....02:59
mgolischrahduke: play some hd h264 movie and watch the cpu load?02:59
abuqutaitayou should be able to see what it's running02:59
rahdukemgolisch: it still seems to use 50%cpu02:59
rahdukedon't seem right02:59
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rahdukealso how can i use it by just double clicking a video, not using terminal03:00
Dr_Willisrahduke:  be sure you are using the mpklayer you compiled - not one thats allready installed perhaps.03:00
mgolischrahduke: do you use the vdpau video output module?03:00
ctmjrrahduke: you have to tell mplayer to use it03:00
rahdukemgolisch: also does it work with hdWMVs?03:00
shyok i am getting file log, how do i get out of the manual?03:00
abuqutaitarahduke: use smplayer03:00
rahdukei have03:00
Dr_Willisshy:  its using the less viewer - hit q03:00
rahdukeabuqutaita: i'm using smplayer as my gui03:01
Guest51049check this site out and feel free to join. all are welcome www.ugotit.ca03:01
Dr_Willisor h fir help i think.03:01
ubuntu-userubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sda103:01
ubuntu-userThe file /media/root/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.03:01
ubuntu-userhelp me03:01
rahdukectmjr: does this only work with .x264?03:01
abuqutaitarahduke: then set the file preference to launch using smpalyer03:01
Tim2009ubuntu-user - check out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22435103:01
mgolischrahduke: yeah make sure you use the correct mplayer, if you still have the repo one installed, also make sure to use the vdpau output module03:01
Dr_Willisubuntu-user:  tell the channel the output of    ls -l /media/root/boot/grub/03:01
mesutcimekeninstalling software03:01
mgolischrahduke: in the settings you can change the output module03:01
rahdukemgolisch: what is the vdpau outlet module?03:01
mesutcimeken:) good03:01
rahdukemgolisch: ill take a look03:02
Dr_Willisubuntu-user:  make sure the files are in fact there. or you may have to mount the location03:02
ubuntu-userDr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342323/03:02
rahdukemgolisch: ooutput driver same as output module?03:02
Dr_Willisubuntu-user:  i said tell the channel. :) i am going to work. Good Luck.03:02
abuqutaitarahduke: yeah03:02
mgolischrahduke: yeah thats what i meant03:02
rahdukeabuqutaita: i dont see an option for VDpau, should i just type it in?03:03
DezineUbuntu keeps crashing on me, I checked my logs from the last crash and this is the last line. "ondemand governor failed, too long transition latency of HW, fallback to performance governor" Not sure if that has anything to do with the crash or not.03:03
shyok now this is where i am a bit lost, the terminology seems to be odd,, i went into man man03:03
rahdukewow that did it03:03
mgolisch:)03:04
rahdukesick it uses like 14%cpu on HDWMVs03:04
shyEach page argument given to man is03:04
shy       normally the name of a program, utility or function.03:04
shywhat is an arguement?03:04
TyphAnyone know how to make firefox ignore the gnome theme? Dark themes make form widgets a disaster03:04
mezquitaleDezine, your computer was working fine before?03:04
sliverstormhey!  I have some machines that I need to avoid taking down, and the swap drive on one died03:04
sliverstormthe device does not exist anymore, so I can't swapoff03:04
mgolischrahduke: yeah it will allways use some cpu for demuxing and sound processing03:04
sliverstormis there a way, even a kernel-hacky way, to swapoff the device without the device file, after the disk has died, besides rebooting?03:04
DezineI started acting up the past couple days. I haven't done anything drastic, it also crashes with the live cd.03:04
rahdukereally awesome, i'm building an HTPC on thursday and wasn't sure whether to use ubuntu or xp03:05
rahdukethis puts it over the top03:05
DezineI cleaned it out and what not, thinking it could be over heating. I guess I'll find out when it crashes again.03:05
sliverstormfirst time I've had to dig so deep into ubuntu ~_~03:05
ctmjrrahduke: here read up on vdpau http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU03:05
rahdukectmjr: i have been03:05
tongazholas buenas noches03:05
rahdukei dont really understand why its not automatically built into every video player03:06
rahdukeand i'm not sure how to enable it in boxee and XBMC03:06
mgolischit realy makes a difference, some of my fullhd movies are unwatchable without vdpau , it stuters all the time, even though my comp isnt that bad03:06
mac9416Hey all. I want `tty` to run in the xterm created by this command: xterm -hold -e "sudo apt-get install supertux < `tty`" Right now, it runs `tty` in this terminal and passes it to the created xterm. Ho can I solve this?03:06
epaphusHey guys, how can I customize the gnome menus such as "Applications" Places, System.03:06
sliverstormSystem -> Preferences -> Main Menu03:06
tongaztengo un problema con el sonido de mi pc no logro hacerlo funcionar de todas las forma q probe no funciona03:07
tongazque hago?03:07
DasEi!it | tongaz03:07
ubottutongaz: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)03:07
mats_sg85hi03:08
mats_sg85can anyone help me?03:08
break_hey. i'm trying to create a command that will simply execute a different command with given arguments. first i thought of creating a bash alias, but i don't think that works if i try to enter into the run dialog in gnome. now i'm thinking i should create a bash script that is just "#!/bin/bash \n command --args" in my ~/bin dir. is this the best way?03:08
matthew_mats_sg85 we don't know yet... what's up.03:08
latWhere can I find the library needed here for Karmic:  /home/lat/rebol-276/rebview: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory03:08
tvaughni have a problem when i try to login to my computer running 9.10, the graphical login screen is there, you try to login and it tries to load then crashes back to the graphical login screen03:09
arquebus!es03:09
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.03:09
sliverstormmats_sg85, I suggest posing your question instead of asking if people can help.  How can anybody know if they can help when they don't know what is wrong?03:10
DasEi!ask | mats_sg8503:10
ubottumats_sg85: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)03:10
rahdukewow VDPAU is sick03:10
rahdukethanks everyone03:10
shy*blushes* now i feel very silly... i found exactly what i needed at wikopedia..i am embarrassed.. thank you to all. it hit me after i was asking a few questions03:11
mats_sg85okay thanks .. i'm need to find the drivers for a pavillion dv6-1253 .. hp doesn't support linux drivers03:11
mgolischmats_sg85: whats that? a notebook?03:11
mats_sg85yes03:12
mgolischmats_sg85: whats not working?03:12
mezquitaleanyone here uses tor?  how do you use tor in ubuntu?03:12
mats_sg85my wireless03:12
mats_sg85card03:12
matthew_Some times when I open a folder (usually home, music or videos) the folder doesn't open. When I click it again, it instantly opens two instances. (and I wait a significant length of time before clicking again). Is this just a glitch or is something I can fix?03:12
mgolischmats_sg85: youd start by findout out what it is, by using the lspci command, it should list what type of wlan card it is03:12
i_is_brokemats_sg85, lspci | grep wlan03:13
mats_sg85all right03:13
tvaughnwhere can i find the x error log03:13
ectospasmtvaughn: /var/log/03:13
mats_sg85& then can look for the drivers in the web ...03:14
TangoTooLHello/03:14
DasEitvaughn:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log03:14
epaphusHey guys, how can I customize the gnome menus such as "Applications" Places, System.03:14
mezquitalematthew_, sounds like a faulty hard drive, or a process that is taking up your machine's CPU, do you have a fast CPU?  You can see what's taking up resources by running "top" in a terminal, you might also want to see the log in "/var/log/messages"03:14
matthew_right click the menu button...edit menus, epaphus03:14
mats_sg85thanks for the help03:14
tvaughni cant see anything that might be causing my issue03:15
mesutcimekenhi kostkon . still same ... nothing works !03:16
mesutcimeken: (03:16
kostkonmesutcimeken, does asoundconf-gtk load when you try to run it?03:16
JunTaohey I got a textbook question here I can't figure out :P "Under what condition will a file created by 'root' be automatically owned by the user called 'nfsnobody'?" .....I can't find the answer, can someone helP?03:16
Hoppihi all, does anyone know if i can open my windows 7 installation (on my slave hard disk) from within a VM... easily?03:17
mesutcimekenyes i did it03:17
i_is_broketvaughn, what grub are you running..if grub2 hit the right shift key and go into recovery mode when booting and see if i there are updates you need or broken packages, did that to me the other day.03:17
HoppiI once saw a very long winded solution03:17
ring0could you recommend reading the book 'linux in a nutshell'? is it worth reading?03:17
epaphusmatthew_, cool thanks03:17
mesutcimekendownloaded03:17
tongazubuntu-es03:17
ectospasmring0: Linux in a Nutshell is a reference book, not for reading cover to cover03:17
tongaz /join #ubuntu-es03:17
ectospasmand it gets outdated rather quickly03:17
mezquitaleanyone here uses tor?  how do you use tor in ubuntu?03:18
FoolishOwlI'm curious if anyone's got insight into "user private groups," which seem to be halfway implemented on Ubuntu.03:18
kostkonmesutcimeken, try to run it in a terminal:  asoundconf-gtk03:18
cyberjorgehi, anyone help installing Ubuntu Server 9.10 as Xenserver VM? How to make sure it's Paravirtualized?03:18
matthew_mezquitale, my cpu doesn't fly, but it does alright (dual core 2ghz), what am I looking for in var/log/messages03:18
DasEimezquitale: y03:18
matthew_epaphus, certainly :)03:18
fbdystangI guess I'll add mine to the help list. Anyone know about PPTP vpn connections in network manager?03:19
ring0ectospasm, ok, but i guess if one gets bored, one could flip through the pages and find some interesting commands or such?03:19
tongaz /join #ubuntu-es03:19
ectospasmring0: that's what it's for03:19
ubuntu-userri got problem with Grub install from live CD... i dot sudo grub ,find /boot/grub/stage1  ,  root (hd1,4) , setup (hd1,4) ,quit  but i get this...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/342332/     help me pls...03:19
ring0ectospasm, thanks, then it's just what i've been looking for03:19
abuqutaitawhat piece of hardware could prevent a fresh install from loading grub?03:19
necromasteri finally could solve the xubuntu 9.10 freeze problem03:19
i_is_brokeabuqutaita, video03:20
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abuqutaitai_is_broke: nah, system posts03:20
mezquitalematthew_, youre looking for errors that might make your machine act the way it does, like errors reading the hard drive03:20
abuqutaitai just finished installing it03:20
necromasteraqui se habla español03:20
DasEimezquitale: tor isn't in the repos anymore, have to manually add the sources, not sure if they done for karmic meanwhile, whereas the jaunty ones work03:20
break_QUESTION: what is startup notification?03:20
FoolishOwlBy default, a new user has a default group, with the same name as the user. That's half of "user personal groups." The other half is having a default umask of 002 instead of 022. Ubuntu does the first half, but not the second. Why?03:20
i_is_brokeabuqutaita, can still be video what card are you running03:20
abuqutaitasomething old03:20
mesutcimekenhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/342333/03:21
abuqutaitalike, geforce 5200 agp03:21
necromasterhola? hi is there somebody how speak spanish03:21
i_is_brokeabuqutaita, ah ok..03:21
mezquitaleDasEi, I already have it installed with polipo but firefox still has a "Tor Disabled" status, how do I "start" or "enable" tor?03:21
ubuntu-userr got problem with Grub install from live CD... i dot sudo grub ,find /boot/grub/stage1  ,  root (hd1,4) , setup (hd1,4) ,quit  but i get this...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/342332/     help me plsssss03:21
mesutcimekenkostkon this is what it is .03:21
maconecromaster: por favor va a #ubuntu-es para español03:21
necromasterespañol03:21
tongazcomo hago para irme a una sala de chat argentina?03:21
abuqutaitai_is_broke: and the live-cd loads with no problems03:21
ectospasmFoolishOwl: having a umask of 002 would mean that anyone in the primary group can write files in the directory03:21
necromasterokay03:21
necromasteranyway i speak enlish03:21
necromasterbut my native is spanish03:22
mezquitaletongaz, usa "join /#canalquequieras"03:22
webbb82could someone please take a look at this its how to automaticly download 150 national geo wallpapers  http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/automatically-download-all-wallpapers.html03:22
webbb82i cant get it to work its a simple script03:22
losha!es | necromaster03:22
ubottunecromaster: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.03:22
ectospasmFoolishOwl: umaks of 002 would mean most files and directories would use permissionso of 77503:22
matthew_mezquitale, the only error I found was "segfault at 458bbf7b ip 00a43803 sp bf9f0200 error 4 in libgobject-2.0.so.0.2200.2[a1e000+3c000]"...related?03:22
DasEimezquitale: (in ff) preferences > settings > network > socksproxy > localhost > 9050 per default or addon foxyproxy03:22
mesutcimekenis anyone speaks turkish here ?03:22
kostkonmesutcimeken, hmm. could now try this. give:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base && sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-utils03:22
ubuntu-userr got problem with Grub install from live CD... i dot sudo grub ,find /boot/grub/stage1  ,  root (hd1,4) , setup (hd1,4) ,quit  but i get this...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/342332/     help me plsssss03:22
webbb82i download the script put it in the folder i want it to download to but when i do ./natgeo2009.sh nothing  happens03:23
mesutcimekenok kostkon03:23
losha!tr | mesutcimeken03:23
ubottumesutcimeken: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.03:23
orenji_no_koibitplease suggest me a command-line ftp client that supports recursive upload03:23
ectospasmorenji_no_koibit: ncftp and variants might fit the bill03:23
JunTaohey I got a textbook question here I can't figure out :P "Under what condition will a file created by 'root' be automatically owned by the user called 'nfsnobody'?" .....I can't find the answer, can someone helP?03:24
chilicuilhi, does anyone have this card 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU] working with 3d effects?03:24
necromastergot it03:24
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ectospasmJunTao: if nfs is running as root, it may automatically chown certain files to nfsnobody, but that's just a guess.03:25
loshaJunTao: depending on the nfs mount options, requests coming from remote systems as root are treated as though they came from user nfsnobody....03:25
LizardK|ngwebbb82, what is your natgeo2009.sh script supposed to do?03:25
FoolishOwlectospasm, I understand that. The point of having a default group with only one user as member is that there's no problem with having full group rights on newly created files. That makes it easier to have full group rights on shared folders.03:25
webbb82LizardK|ng,  http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/automatically-download-all-wallpapers.html03:25
mezquitaleDasEi, now firefox has no connection, how do I test to make sure that tor is up and running and configured correctly?03:25
webbb82check it out03:25
LizardK|ngoh, wall paper; i want their shows03:26
loshaJunTao: the idea is that you don't want root users on clients to have unrestriced access to your filesystem03:26
orenji_no_koibityafc can't connect to server outside the local network03:26
orenji_no_koibitplease suggest me a command-line ftp client that supports recursive upload03:26
DasEimezquitale: enter tor in trml03:26
ectospasmorenji_no_koibit: I already suggested ncftp03:27
FoolishOwlWhat puzzles me is why Ubuntu has, fred:fred and suzie:suzie, instead of fred:users and suzie:users, but doesn't go all the way with the concept and have a default umask of 002.03:27
FreeaqingmeI'm trying to install ubuntu 9.10 on a somewhat older laptop of mine (from cd). But all I'm getting is a wallpaper & mousepointer (I'm not getting any dialog whatsoever). Any clues what option I should enable/disable to make it a success?03:27
ubuntu-userrgot problem with Grub install from live CD... i dot sudo grub ,find /boot/grub/stage1  ,  root (hd1,4) , setup (hd1,4) ,quit  but i get this...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/342332/     help me plsssss03:27
orenji_no_koibitit gets the same problem as yafc03:27
macoFoolishOwl: lack of 002 is a debian thing. debian does 755 for ~03:27
loshaorenji_no_koibit: top hit in google for 'recursive ftp client'03:27
ectospasmFoolishOwl: you don't want users you add to the fred or suzie group to have write access to everything03:27
orenji_no_koibitI'll try03:27
LizardK|nga umask of 002 makes no sense to me03:27
ectospasm...at least not automatically, anyway03:27
mezquitaleDasEi, ps aux|grep tor ---> 115 /usr/bin/tor,  tor created user 115 ?? is this supposed to be right?03:27
mesutcimekenkostkon sorry nothing happened03:28
juanchohola, alguien me podria ayudar a instalar el xampp03:28
loshamezquitale: that's process number 115. It's quite normal....03:28
mgolischubuntu-userr: and it doenst work afterwards?03:28
kostkonmesutcimeken, did you check "aplay -l" after the reboot. could you run it again?03:29
losha!es | juancho03:29
ubottujuancho: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.03:29
mesutcimekenok i will03:29
epaphusHow can I lock my gnome settings..?03:29
epaphusso that only root can change them?03:29
ubuntu-userrno03:29
ubuntu-userrmgolisch: it wosent work :(03:29
FoolishOwlectospasm, what I'm talking about is Ubuntu halfway implements user personal groups, and I'm wondering why it either doesn't do it or does it all the way. This is what I'm talking about: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-5-manual/Deployment_Guide-en-US/s1-users-groups-private-groups.html03:30
DasEimezquitale: y, you can see just by tor if its running (already in use and port)03:30
mgolischubuntu-userr: how do you boot that grub? you installed it onto the some partition, it will only work if you boot that grub using some other bootloader that supports chainloading03:30
ectospasmFoolishOwl: don't dare think for a minute that redhat has all the answers.03:30
FoolishOwlThere are a couple of other links to it. I ran into an explanation of the concept in "Essential System Administration."03:30
FoolishOwlectospasm, I don't think you're understanding the question.03:31
ectospasmFoolishOwl: you're probably right.  I don't care enough to look into it further.03:31
macoFoolishOwl: i think this is a question to ask on the ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list. rahter doubt folks here can answer "why was this decision made?" questions very often03:31
ubuntu-userrmgolish: im trying from live cd... i have do same thing before some months but i dont remember how i did...03:31
FoolishOwlmaco, perhaps you're right. I was just wondering if there was some obvious complication I was missing.03:32
JunTaolosha yea I thiink ur right thanks03:32
widgethey guys, i installed ubuntu 8.04 on my old laptop, but the touchpad and wireless network doesnt work... any ideas on what to do ??03:32
mgolischubuntu-userr: was this intended? if you want it to boot grub if you select that disk in bios the last command should have been setup hd(1)03:32
sliverstormjust gonna throw out there one more time before I call it a night... is there a way to disable a swap device without having the special device (/dev/sdX), or even the hard drive present?03:32
epaphusHow can I lock my gnome settings..so that only root can change it?03:32
mgolischubuntu-userr: what exactly are you planing to do?03:32
minewhen i watch for a ling time  ,the screen will turn black  .how to fix  it03:32
ubuntu-userrmgolisch: i want to re-install grub so i can use dual boot...03:33
LizardK|ngwait, a umask of 002 DOES make sense, i was thinking about it wrong03:33
mezquitaleDasEi, $tor --> Adress already in use.  Is Tor already running?  Tor is running but how do I use it with firefox?  i cant use the net with FF if I enable a proxy, am I doing it wrong?03:33
ubuntu-userrmgolisch: grub ask me with witch OS i want to log in with Linux or windows...03:33
DasEimezquitale: prbly wrong setting in ff03:33
mgolischubuntu-userr: how do you boot grub? or is grub your main bootloader? as i said before if it wont boot if you install grub into a partition unless you boot grub from some other bootloader03:34
iKernelSomebody has majorly fscked up the winbase.h header file in the latest version of wine from ubuntu repos =)03:34
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macoiKernel: file bug?03:34
ubuntu-userrmgolisch: ok help me do that..............03:34
mgolischubuntu-userr: if you want grub to be started if you boot from that disk make the last command setup (hd1) not setup (hd1,4)03:34
iKernelmaco, If this version of wine from git works, I definitely will =D03:35
ubuntu-userrthanks03:35
mezquitaleDasEi, using firefox now changes google to a netherdal page "tor is enabled" on firefox, is it possible it is done?03:35
ubuntu-userrmgolisch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342341/     now its ok? :)03:36
Dougdoug4I have a Netgear adatper WN121T that I wnat to use on 9.1003:37
Dougdoug4i have the .inf file for it to get it to work03:37
Dougdoug4but where and how to i ndiswrap it03:37
Dougdoug4and all that stuff03:37
crypt-0-i have my root partition pointing to the wrong one, even though fstab is pointing to the right one.03:37
luis_pimpbuenas noches03:37
mgolischubuntu-userr: yeah that looks about right03:37
crypt-0-it asks for "cryptoroot" when fstab clearly tells it to ask for "cryptroot"03:38
mgolischcrypt-0-: did you change something recently?03:39
crypt-0-no i just installed  it03:39
webbb82ok you know how if you dont have a middle mouse button you can hit the first and last mouse button to simulate a middle click?  well my mouse has 4 buttons  how can i make my number 2 button the simulate middle click03:39
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AxanonI have 2 nic cards in my computer and want to use 1 for LAN traffic the other for WAN traffic.. can anybody point me in the direction of a good tutorial for configuring Mint/Ubuntu to do this?03:40
crypt-0-im trying to get it to boot....it failed during the alternate install, and i needed to finish the install with the desktop CD.03:40
geniiDougdoug4: Perhaps follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#Installing%20Windows%20driver%20using%20command%20line03:40
Bondywhois Bondy03:40
alazyworkaholicI just installed another linux OS to experiment with onto some free space leftover after my ubuntu install. I told it not to install a bootloader. I'm back in ubuntu. How can I tell grub to look for the new OS?03:40
supernatendohello03:40
mgolischcrypt-0-: checked you bootloader? usualy the bootloader tells the kernel what to load for rootfs, it might be something in your initramfs too03:41
tommyonI have no choice but to use Jaunty on an old laptop. The problem is, the video card is an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M. How can I install/use the fglrx driver for it? I tried from the official repositories, but it ruins the display. Thanks for any help.03:41
supernatendoAnyone with help on ubuntu 9.04?03:41
mgolischcrypt-0-: maybe try regeneratiung the initramfs from a livecd03:41
computer_why does my sound sound like crap? i did a fresh install and the sound now seems distorted? anyone can help?03:41
crypt-0-mgolisch, it simply asks for the wrong root device, when in intrid i can see the right root device, it just asks for the wrong one03:41
supernatendoI have a sever setup and i added ubuntu-desktop for the windoze techs I work with so they would stop thinking linux was inferior because they can't use a terminal lol03:42
computer_why does my sound sound like crap? i did a fresh install (ubuntu 9.10) and the sound now seems distorted? anyone can help?03:42
arghh2d2alazyworkaholic: copy the new linux os entries from the /boot/grub/menu.lst file on your new partition to the /boot/grub/menu.lst file on your old partition might work03:42
doltekWhat app do I use to connect to other computers from mine via my home network?03:42
crypt-0-mgolisch, yes i did rebuild intrid after making the changes. Where does GRUB2 ask where root is?03:42
iKernelso I downloaded wine from git repository a few days back, with git clone git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git ~/wine-git . now I want to update my saved version of git, but when I try that same command, computer says no: fatal: destination path '/home/kernel/wine-git' already exists and is not an empty directory. so what should I type to do what I am trying to do?03:42
DasEimezquitale: http://yfrog.com/0usnapshot1tfp03:43
tommyonAnyone know how to get fglrx to install on Jaunty for an ATI mobile video card?03:43
arghh2d2doltek: ssh?03:43
doltekhuh?03:43
supernatendovnc03:43
computer_doltek, Application/Internet/Remote Desktop03:43
mgolischiKernel: git update maybe?03:43
doltekok then what?03:43
arghh2d2doltek: or maybe just network manager is what your after?03:43
alazyworkaholictommyon: not sure what rxx the 200M is, but if it's old you're very very likely better off using the default open source driver. If you need better 3D, I think all you can do now is search for and add the xorg-edgers ppa so that you have the daily bleeding edge packages, which I hear give fairly good performance now.03:44
doltekI want to take full control over it03:44
arghh2d2doltek: ok, you want vnc then03:44
computer_doltek, youtube ubuntu 9.10 remote desktop03:44
ziggyi just upgraded my os and now my icons are gone can any one help me out plz03:44
webbb82how could i reconfig x so i can set my paste with middle click to paste with button 203:44
mgolischcrypt-0-: no idea, maybe grep through its config files for that wrong string03:44
doltekok thx03:44
doltekI'm still running 9.0403:44
tommyonalazyworkaholic, 3D isn't my main concern. Using the "radeon" opensource driver prevents me from resuming from suspend when I suspend to ram.03:44
doltek9.10 dont work on my laptop03:45
computer_youtube ubuntu 9.04 remote desktop03:45
computer_:)03:45
arghh2d2doltek: thats ok03:45
doltek:D03:45
computer_youtube has good tutorials03:45
arghh2d29.04 is stabler than 9.1003:45
rubin110Hi there. I'm trying to get netbook 9.10 running on a friend's MSI Wind U100. I read that there's an option called "Discarded or shutdown, unless you save them elsewhere" that can be selected when using the usb-create package. I got the ISO on the USB thumb drive via debian and don't have a machine near by that's running a linux gui. Does anyone know what this option does exactly?03:45
ziggyi just upgraded my os and now my icons are gone can any one help me out plz03:45
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ziggyi would like my Desktop icons back can you please help03:45
tommyonalazyworkaholic, I'll try the xorg-edgers ppa. Thanks for the tip.03:46
alabdGood day everyone , How to make ubuntu not to ask password for root privilege  ? is there anyway to not enter password each time for each program access ?03:46
mgolischziggy: what icons? all?03:46
AxanonI have 2 nic cards in my computer and want to use 1 for LAN traffic the other for WAN traffic.. can anybody point me in the direction of a good tutorial for configuring Mint/Ubuntu to do this?03:46
mgolischziggy: maybe try starting nautilus, its drasw the desktop view03:47
mgolischdraws03:47
crypt-0-mgolisch, i suspect it may not be the bootloader, since it does unlock the encrypted filesystem, it just asks for the wrong one in /dev/mapper03:47
tommyonalazyworkaholic, which package do I install from his PPA? xserver-xorg-video-ati?03:47
Bondyalabd sudo su03:47
leaf-sheeprubin110: Discarded on shutdown?  I'm guessing you're using a persistent desktop.  Anything you did will be revert back to the starting point of the machine you firstly boot.03:47
alazyworkaholictommyon: I hope it works. I'm about to try it out for a newer card.03:47
alabdBondy:  how about in GUI ?03:48
tommyonalazyworkaholic, I'm not sure which package to grab, though.03:48
rubin110leaf-sheep: I can figure that, I'm asking what does this option do under the usb-creator package?03:48
mgolischcrypt-0-: hm maybe it pulls that from something else than fstab there might be some dedicated file it pulls that from when building the initramfs03:48
rubin110leaf-sheep: I created the USB drive on a debian machine that's not running a gui.03:48
rubin110leaf-sheep: Ah, I should mention that not having that option enabled seems to make the MSI Wind not want to boot up the livecd for 9.10 netbook remix.03:48
rubin110Which is why I don't want to figure out what it does so I can see about changing it by hand.03:49
crypt-0-mgolisch, i can try to make the root filesystem mount it the "wrong" place. That would fix it.03:49
mgolischcrypt-0-: what does your /etc/crypttab look like?03:49
rubin110I am having an extremely hard time finding anything through google about what this option actually does.03:49
mezquitaleDasEi, check.torproject.org-->"Congratulations.  You are using Tor"03:49
leaf-sheeprubin110: Gotcha. I don't know what changes exactly are behind the screen. For me, I always have hard time installing netbooks via USB using ISO or any of the GUI tools.03:50
crypt-0-mgolisch, http://pastebin.com/m308bbf9c03:50
tommyonBBL03:50
rubin110Is there a boot option to enable this state of discarding things?03:50
SuperMigueldoes ubuntu support trim?03:51
mezquitaleDasEi, i'm using port 9050 instead of 6050, im wondering if it makes a difference?03:51
leaf-sheep!boot | rubin11003:51
ubotturubin110: Boot options: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions - To add/remove startup services, you can use the package 'bum', or update-rc.d - To add your own startup scripts, use /etc/rc.local - See also !grub and !dualboot - Making a boot floppy: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto/BootFloppy - Also see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SmartBootManagerHowto03:51
mgolischcrypt-0-: id think its eother the bootloader or some file under the initramfs config dirs that tells it to ask for that wrong devicename03:52
oo_sevenis the partition table part of the mbr, and after that the first parition starts?03:52
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oo_sevenor is there ANY data in between?03:52
mezquitaleleaf-sheep, you should try DELL netbooks, dell even has laptops that ship with ubuntu, I didnt have a problem with one of their latest and greatest addition, netbook 110003:52
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YonData in betwee ?03:52
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Yonn03:53
crypt-0-mgolisch, if i can get it to mount at cryptoroot, it would not be a problem. Should i just try that?03:53
crypt-0-mgolisch, it mounts at cryptroot now03:53
leaf-sheepmezquitale: I have Dell Mini 10 -- terrible Poulsbo graphic card. :(03:53
oo_sevenin other words if i have 2 paritions : will backing up with dd: the mbr (first 512 b) AND /hda1 and /hda2   back up the entire disk??03:53
crypt-0-mgolisch, i found it, it was grub, i assume. The configuration is under "grub.cfg, instead of the menu.lst i am used to.03:56
alabdGood day everyone , How to make ubuntu not to ask password for root privilege  ? is there anyway to not enter password each time for each program access (GUI)?03:56
mezquitaleDasEi, here is a pointless question, how do i disable tor? or should I leave tor running all the time? does it matter?03:56
kitchealabd: edit the sudoer file03:56
arghh2d2visudo03:57
alabdkitche: where is it ?03:57
YonCosole tor (option) stop03:57
arghh2d2cant just edit the sudoer03:57
kitchealabd: just type visudo and it will let you edit the file you want to have nopasswd can't remember the exact syntax for the word though03:57
Bondyalabd this is not really advisable but in a console type sudo passwd root and set a root password then log on as root03:58
YonConsoole $sudo tor (option) stop03:58
alabdBondy:  that way is dangerous03:58
Yonyeah03:58
mezquitalealabd, basially what you want to do is not type a password for rudimentary stuff like installing an app?  I would not recommend for you to do that, it's just easier to type the password, youll get used to it03:59
alabdkitche:  do you what should be done there in visudo ?03:59
arghh2d2alabd: just type: sudo visudo  -theres probly a line or two that you can just delete the # symbol to activate... its not advisable to begin with but its your system03:59
arghh2d2alabd: please dont windowize your fine linux machine04:00
alabdmezquitale:  you mean login as root ?04:01
mezquitaleDasEi, anyway, thank you for the help tomorrow I will torrify irc04:01
alabdarghh2d2: so how to not type a password for rudimentary stuffs ...04:02
arghh2d2alabd: thats what Bondy what recomending04:02
ubuntu-userrrrhello i want to re-install grub im following the instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  when i do "sudo fdisk -l" i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/342355/   after "mkdir /media/root" its ok.... and when im trying to mount .. "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/root" i get this warning message http://paste.ubuntu.com/342351/    ..  P.S. im using 2 partitions the Ubuntu is at the second p04:02
DasEimezquitale: you won't here04:02
arghh2d2alabd: you can start a root terminal by typing: sudo su   <--that keeps you root04:02
alabdno using root user is not secure Bondy arghh2d204:02
mgolischnight04:02
mgolischtime for bed04:03
ubuntu-userrrrhello i want to re-install grub im following the instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  when i do "sudo fdisk -l" i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/342355/   after "mkdir /media/root" its ok.... and when im trying to mount .. "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/root" i get this warning message http://paste.ubuntu.com/342351/    ..  P.S. im using 2 Hard Drives the Ubuntu is at the second 04:03
ubuntu-userrrr:P04:03
mezquitalealabd, i mean that you have to type a password for any GUI that needs admin privilege, that is for a good reason, youll be better off typing the password when you need to access the GUI than to figure out a way so that you dont have to04:03
Bondyalabd using root is not secure you are correct but neither is running a gui that does not require the password no diff really04:03
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alabdmezquitale:  what do you mean of " youll be better off typing the password"04:04
Bondyand just fyi most if not all other distros alow you to log in as root04:04
supernatendoDRBL help needed please!04:04
prappl93Ubuntu randomly freezes on my computer and takes a while to unfreeze. Is there a way to tell if all my software is working properly so that it can work better?04:05
arghh2d2alabd: for a root terminal type: sudo su04:05
richard_rolhello04:05
alabdarghh2d2:  gui04:05
richard_rolhow to amend the icons04:05
widgetwtas a good bittorrent client for ubuntu ? ive seen a couple but cant seem to install.. tried gtorrent and deluge, but cant find when doing sudo apt-get install (program)04:05
supernatendo@prappl93 sudo dpkg --configure -a04:05
ajhtiredwolfI had flash stop working for me in chrome, it seems to happen with large flash filees04:05
supernatendo@widget transmission FTW!04:05
adibdabneed help...04:06
SolarisBoydeluge04:06
richard_rolhello,how to amend the icons04:06
arghh2d2alabd: log in as root04:06
SolarisBoytransmission04:06
richard_rolI need help04:06
richard_rolhow to amend the icons04:06
supernatendoI need DRBL help04:06
mezquitale!ask| adibdab04:06
ubottuadibdab: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)04:06
supernatendoamend as in????04:06
adibdabmy bluetooth wont work on karmic..04:06
adibdabi use toshiba l51004:06
Bondyalabd there may be somewhere to change the default 15 mins after giving the password to a longer time so you dont have to enter it as much not sure where though04:07
richard_rolamend the desktop icons04:07
prappl93@supernatendo what do I do after I run that?04:07
supernatendo@prapple you can also run sudo aptitude safe-upgrade04:07
richard_rolalter the icons04:08
alabdBondy: yes but how ?04:08
supernatendo@prapple93 sudo apt-get -f remove04:08
richard_rolneed help!!04:08
prappl93@supernatendo What does that do?04:08
supernatendowill remove broken packages04:08
supernatendosafe-upgrade upgrades packages04:09
supernatendodpkg --configure -a checks for packages with missing dependencies04:09
cyberjorgehow do you install lxde with "--without-recommends" syntax? I get "--without-recommends no understood" error.04:11
prappl93@supernatendo I will run all of those commands after I get done updating something right now.04:11
adibdab!ask : to enable bluetooth in toshiba L510 on karmic koala..04:11
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:11
supernatendoI need DRBL help04:11
Bondy!gui superuser04:11
BigIgWhen I try to install Ubuntu with the graphical isntaller, I select install from the menu and it starts loading and the screen just goes blank and does nothing. When I try the alternate installer I select install and it tells me it can't fine the CD.04:12
Sn3ipenHi. I am having some troubles getting compiz to work. It worked perfectly fine yesterday, but today when i turned on the machine it wont work at all. I tried to totaly remove everything that was compiz something in Synaptic and reinstall it but its still the same04:12
Bondy!gui root04:12
supernatendo@Sn3ipen can you access the command line?04:12
Bondyeven ubotto doesent know04:12
leaf-sheepcyberjorge: If you're using aptitude, I think it is -R04:12
Jaikkulican someone point out the main disadvantages of installing ubuntu within windows, rather than partitioning?04:13
i_is_broke!root04:13
ubottuDo not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo04:13
BigIgJaikkuli: afaik disk performance goes down a bit but is otherwise nearly the same.04:13
Sn3ipen@supernatendo Yup04:13
supernatendo@jaikkuli relying on windows not messing up lol04:13
Bondyalabd apart from logging in as root do a gksudo nautilus and run what you need from there that might work04:13
leaf-sheepJaikkuli: Bloated. The filesystem is not linux native. Things work a bit differently. (Not that I have anything against Wubi).04:13
prappl93Jaikkuli, it will take up a lot more resources due to the VM software.04:14
alabdBondy: no that way is not useful04:14
Jaikkuliprappl93: vm? is this method really vm?04:14
supernatendo@Sn3ipe are you running an ati or nvidia card?04:14
Jaikkulii just want to dual boot04:14
BigIgprappl93: It's not a VM04:14
Bondyalabd well learn to use the shell or login as root04:15
Sn3ipen@supernatendo ATI04:15
alabdthanks for your attentions  for now we leave it Bondy04:15
Jaikkulileaf-sheep: linux doesn't like ntfs?04:15
supernatendo@Sn3ipen and are you using the proprietary ati driver?04:15
supernatendolinux uses ntfs just fine lol04:15
cyberjorgeleaf-sheep: I use "apt-get  install --without-recommends lxde-core"   -r doesn't work either what the exact command?04:15
supernatendontfs just sucks compared to ext3 or ext404:15
widgetsupernatendo: thnks, ill check that one out04:15
EastDallasalabd: there is a way, give me a second and I'll tell you how...just read something on this the other day04:16
supernatendoafk04:16
airtonixJaikkuli, all is reavealed here in second post on this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=48121904:16
leaf-sheepJaikkuli: Linux can read NTFS -- I'm saying that linux resides on NTFS could be a problematic in long term because of how NTFS handle files.04:16
Sn3ipen@supernatendo no. I checked in hardware drivers but there aint any drivers for my card, so i gues its just using some open drivers. Its an Mobility Radeon x1400 btw.04:16
leaf-sheepcyberjorge: sudo aptitude install -R lxde-core -- Try that.04:16
jonrob287how does mythTV work? do you have to have some type of card?04:16
alabdEastDallas: thanks04:16
EastDallashttp://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-password-prompts-in-ubuntu.html04:16
EastDallasalabd: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-password-prompts-in-ubuntu.html04:16
prappl93jonrob287, that is off topic.04:16
jonrob287what do mean off topic? where would i ask that question?04:17
strayhyenahello04:17
EastDallasjonrob287: video capture card(s) is helpful04:17
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Jaikkuliairtonix: thanks, that is helpful04:17
leaf-sheep!offtopic | jonrob28704:18
ubottujonrob287: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!04:18
ctmjrjonrob287: ask in #mythtv-users but keep in mind some people in there are rude04:18
Sn3ipen@supernatendo But it have been working like a charm on this computer for two years or so04:18
BondyEastDallas surely would be better to login as root for admin tasks that disable the passwords permanently04:18
cyberjorgeleaf-sheep: that worked! I save 70% resources excluding the packaged apps in lxde. :D thank you so much04:18
leaf-sheepjonrob287: #ubuntu-mythtv04:18
strayhyenadoes anyone know how to mount an image file without root and without editing fstab? my regular devices (external hard disks) mount as regular user and I can unmount them from nautilus04:18
airtonixJaikkuli, also here : [ http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/wubi-or-vm-or-dual-boot ] and here : [ http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/wubi.html ]04:18
stealyourwifejonrob287: yeah, they might hurt your feelings04:18
webbb82how do i save a file that i edit in the terminal   i need to save and exit isnt it ctrl s?04:18
jonrob287thnx for the help anyways then guys...04:18
leaf-sheepcyberjorge: Great! :)04:18
widgeti did sudo apt=get install transmission.. and it looks like it installed.. though i dont know where to find it04:19
EastDallasjonrob287: http://www.mythtv.org/04:19
widgetapt-get**04:19
leaf-sheepwidget: Application --> Internet ?04:19
widgetnope, not there04:19
airtonixJaikkuli, and lastly here : http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php04:19
jonrob287why are they so mean in there?04:19
leaf-sheepwidget: Try "killall gnome-panel"04:19
leaf-sheepwidget: Gnome-Panel may need to be (refreshed).04:19
stealyourwifejonrob287: cuz theyre part goblin, part orc04:19
widgetthe terminal says "Setting up transmission (1.06-0ubuntu6) ..."04:20
stealyourwifeall mean04:20
widgetbut after that is just the ,name.@ubuntu: $04:20
widgetoh04:20
widgeti c it there now04:20
widgetty :)04:20
itilioushow come once i installed ubunt i can't install windows on any other hard drive/ partition?04:20
airtonix!enter | widget04:21
ubottuwidget: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!04:21
ctmjrjonrob287: it is not that they are mean they just expect you to try and find the answers yourself before asking questions04:21
widgetsry :S04:21
cyberjorgeleaf-sheep: by the way you got an idea how to install Ubuntu 9.10 Paravirt VM?04:21
leaf-sheepitilious: When you installed Ubuntu, you had a choice to make partitions (to make room for other OSes) or to use the whole hard drive.04:21
leaf-sheepcyberjorge: Not really. I don't use much VM.04:22
cyberjorgei see, thanks04:22
strayhyenahow does ubuntu make devices umountable by the regular user?04:22
itiliousleaf-sheep, i'm trying to use a secondary internal hard drive, which i never had a problem doing untill i installed ubuntu on my primary drive04:22
prappl93lspic reveals that, according to Ubuntu, I have an "Intel Audio Card" when I have a SigmaTel Audio Card. Is there a way to get the SigmaTel drivers on here?04:23
prappl93*lspci04:23
stealyourwifeitilious: try gparted04:23
leaf-sheepitilious: Ask in ##windows -- As far as I know, I think Windows like to be on first hard drive.04:24
Bondyitilious have you formatted the secondary drive to ext3 or ext404:24
stealyourwifewindows bootloader has to be at the beginning of the master drive04:24
EastDallasBondy:  that's what I gathered alabd wanted to do, otherwise why wouldn't you just use gksu?04:25
leaf-sheepitilious: You could shut down, swap the hard drive. Unplug the Ubuntu HDD (to be on safe side) and install it. Configure the bootloader later.04:25
alabdwhat is ""enable accessible login " for ?04:25
dtohi. i followed the instructions (install packages, plug in tablet, and reboot) for my new Wacom Bamboo Pen tablet. but it doesn't work after rebooting.04:25
SuperMigueldoes ubuntu support trim?04:25
itiliousBondy, no there is no partition at all on it, i tried clearing everythign i could via gparted and still windows wont install on the second hard drive04:25
supernatendo@Sn3ipen you will need to enable the drivers for ATI for compiz to work properly04:26
alabdEastDallas: leave it doing so is not secure04:26
supernatendothe open drivers are reverse engineered as good as possible but some things wont work04:26
EastDallasalabd:  why can't you just use sudo, or gksu?04:26
Bondyitilious well if theres no partition on it you will need to format it to install on it does windows not give you the option?04:26
supernatendoclick on system -> administration hardware drivers to enable it but you might want to backup xorg.conf first04:26
itiliousBondy, i can create the partition via the windows 7 disk but windows then says it can not use the partition04:27
prappl93My terminal is saying "The following packages are BROKEN: ubuntu-desktop" How do I fix this?04:27
stealyourwifeyour better off putting windows on your master drive or switch your hardrives internally so the one you want to put windows on is master...actually your better off just not running windows04:28
spOCan i do hdmi audio AND regular output audio at the same time?"04:28
leaf-sheepprappl93: What did you do? :(  ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage.  It can be safely removed.  The terminal also should give you options.04:28
itiliousstealyourwife, i need to use it to simply capture anolog video though :(04:28
prappl93leaf-sheep, I am trying to install the PROPER drivers for my sound card (SigmaTel) instead of the "Intel" ones it loaded for it, and the guide says to remove Alsa and then it said that04:29
shinchan_guys is there any chat client like gtalk in ubuntu04:29
leaf-sheep!tv | itilious04:29
ubottuitilious: http://www.linuxtv.org/ has extensive information about using TV cards under Linux. Available viewers for analog cards: Zapping, tvtime (GTK/GNOME), Kaffeine, kdetv (KDE), xawtv, motv. For digital cards: Me-TV (GNOME), Klear (KDE), dvb-utils. For both analog and digital cards, !MythTV is a powerful framework. Your card may work the !IVTV drivers. See also !TV-Out04:29
webbb82Currently the button mapping described above is being ignored by Hal. (As of 9.04 it appears that the button mapping is now applied correctly. Only use one method or the other.) This is particularly problematic if you want one of the small buttons to serve as middle click. A simple workaround is to remap what you need via xmodmap. As an example, let's map the small left button as middle click. Save this in your .Xmodmap file:04:30
itiliousleaf-sheep, sure looks like something me a newbie can handle,,,, lol04:30
webbb82i cant find that file04:30
leaf-sheepshinchan_: There are many clients that can use Google Talk protocol.04:30
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leaf-sheepshinchan_: Pidgin as an example.04:30
Funzoanybody know anything about recovering data from a reformatted partition?04:31
supernatendowhere i use pidgin for irc lol04:31
leaf-sheep!recover | Funzo04:31
ubottuFunzo: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel04:31
shinchan_i have kopete04:31
Funzoleaf-sheep I've read that link, but my situation doesnt really fit into there, I reformatted my ext3 partition to ext404:32
Hilikuscan i create an NTFS for windows in an LVM partition?04:32
Funzoby accident and lost years worth of data04:32
EastDallasyep, but MythTV is really meant for a pc that's dedicated for watching tv.04:32
supernatendohas anyone with DRBL experience?04:32
Funzothe guides never mention anything about what to do if it;'s been reformatted04:33
lakotajamesI'm planning on installing linux on my flashdrive for use at school.  most of the computers are fairly old.  They all use windows xp, though, but my guess is that they barely meet the minimum requirements.  Would Ubuntu run ok?  or should I use something lighter?04:33
apetrescuDoes anyone happen to know where Google Chrome stores its preferences and stuff like that? There doesn't appear to be any ~/.chrome directory.04:33
sander_hi someone knows about a kile forum04:33
Hilikuslakotajames if ubuntu doesn't work try xubuntu04:33
Sn3ipen@supernatendo How do i do that when there ain't any choices in "Hardware Drivers"?04:33
shinchan_lakotajames: u can try installin knoppix in ur flashdrive04:34
Bondykde uses more resourses than gnome04:34
supernatendo@Sn3ipen I am actually not sure... usually it is listed there but you might want to google your card for ubuntu04:34
leaf-sheepFunzo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Lost%20Partition ?04:34
lakotajamesHilikus: I read that xubuntu's implementation of xfce really isn't any faster than gnome >_>04:34
ubuntu-userrrrrhelp me with Grub re-install guys i cant do it.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows ............  ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l     "after i get this messages." http://paste.ubuntu.com/342385/   what should i type next?? i dont know anything about ubuntu/linux04:35
Hilikuslakotajames i don't know about fast, but it is lighter on memory04:35
Bondylakotajames do you know the spec of the machines?04:35
Bondybut tbh if they run xp they should run ubuntu04:36
thiebaudelakotajames, 256 mb ram min for ubuntu04:36
Bondythiebaude thats what it says for xp i used to run it on 128mb04:36
Sn3ipen@supernatendo Thanks. I will try to figure out how to install those crappy ATI drivers04:36
thiebaudethats for ubuntu also04:37
Funzoleaf-sheep: thanks, but it still doesnt mention anything about reformatted partitions, it assumes I have only deleted it04:37
lakotajamesBondy:  They're not all the same, but they all run xp.   Some of them are really slow, though.04:37
ctmjrlakotajames: make sure you have access to the bios so you can change the boot options i would guess most schools have access to the bios locked down pretty tight04:37
leaf-sheepFunzo: How big is the storage?04:38
newbie01!! I'm wanting to install Apache so I can learn PHP.  I know how to install it.. but what I would like to do is only run it when I want to, not during startup.  how do I do this?? thanks04:38
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)04:38
lakotajamesctmjr:  My school is too stupid to do anything like that :p  I've booted crunchbag before.04:38
Funzoleaf-sheep: 400gb04:38
prappl93Is there a way to install SigmaTel Audio Drivers so my computer won't freeze as often?04:38
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leaf-sheepFunzo: The Main OS on it? (The one you're on right now?) or is it separated parition?04:39
michael_Hello all04:39
Funzoonly the /home drive04:39
EastDallasubuntu-userrrrr: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin704:40
rCXWhat is the escape sequence for a double quote in the terminal?04:40
Funzoand I'm running a live cd now04:40
michael_I need some help with getting my nvidia geforce 9800 Gt and 2 acer al1916w monitors to work04:40
Bondylakotajames even if they dont have the bios locked down they might still detect your actions04:40
itiliousdoes ANYONE here know how to simply capture analog video via ubuntu?04:40
Billiarditilious: you have a supported device for doing it?04:41
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leaf-sheepFunzo: Do you have any hard drive that you could use? I'm thinking that you could ddrescue to "clone" the home partition (byte for byte) then you could play around with recovery tools on the image instead of the actual partition.04:41
lakotajamesBondy, they don't care. :p04:41
itiliousyes, i can view it via tvtime04:41
itiliousBilliard, i just can't find software that can capture it04:41
Billiarditilious: you want to capture using command line?04:41
stealyourwifeitilious: you're trying to download cable like a tivo or something?04:41
Funzoleaf-sheep I don't have any storage that big, otherwise I would have made a backup before haha04:41
Billiarditilious: i use mencoder04:41
Funzobut at this point the data is gone so I will  try anything04:42
rubin110I am running netbook remix, how do I type in unicode codes?04:42
rubin110It seems like there's a setting under Keyboard Preferences, but that option doesn't exist under the netbook remix.04:42
lazydragoonsomeone can telp my why i can't go in task menager ?04:42
rubin110http://distilledb.com/blog/archives/date/2009/03/06/typing-special-characters-in-ubuntu.page04:42
willy_oneI'm wanting to install Apache so I can learn PHP.  I know how to install it.. but what I would like to do is only run it when I want to, not during startup.  how do I do this? thanks04:42
leaf-sheepFunzo: Well, if it is that important, then you would be wise.  I have 20GB dedicated for system, 2TB for data. So the home partition is really small for me.04:42
stealyourwifeurxvt?04:42
itiliousBilliard, i tried that but i'm pretty new to the linux scene so its a little more complicated for myself at the moment04:42
michael_I need some help with getting my nvidia geforce 9800 Gt and 2 acer al1916w monitors to work04:42
Billiardlazydragoon: what happens when you try04:42
itiliousBilliard, are there any gui options for analog video capture?04:42
leaf-sheepFunzo: You could try and recover it... It is not all lost, you know.04:42
strayhyenais it possible to undelete with ext404:43
lazydragoonBilliard:  that just close the page im on04:43
Funzohow?04:43
Bondylazydragoon task manager is windows04:43
Bondyyou mean system monitor?04:43
Billiarditilious: idk, ive never wanted one04:43
lazydragoonwell the thing you do ctrl and esc04:43
willy_one1300 people and I still get no answer.  wow04:43
leaf-sheepFunzo: By actually playing with recovery tools on the home partitions and hopefully you can recover it.04:43
Bondygo to system >administration>system monitor04:43
willy_oneI'm wanting to install Apache so I can learn PHP.  I know how to install it.. but what I would like to do is only run it when I want to, not during startup.  how do I do this?? thanks04:43
Billiard!undelete | strayhyena04:43
ubottustrayhyena: Some tools to recover lost data are listed and explained at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery - Recovering deleted files on !ext3 filesystems can be virtually impossible, although methods that might work is some cases are described at at http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html and http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel04:43
itiliousBilliard, do you have a link maybe that can simple it up a little bit for a newbie?04:44
Billiarditilious: i dont know of one sorry, but i can give you a command i have saved that you could modify04:44
Hilikuscan i create an NTFS for windows in an LVM partition?04:44
lakotajamesThing is, I want something that won't be slower than xp.  You think I should try ubuntu, or go for something like Lubuntu?04:44
JigbuntuI sho lubs me sum ubuntu!04:45
BilliardHilikus: i dont see why not04:45
JigbuntuWhere de boer women at?04:45
michael_I need some help with getting my nvidia geforce 9800 Gt and 2 acer al1916w monitors to work04:45
HilikusBilliard so windows will understand LVM?04:45
BilliardHilikus: well idk about that04:45
leaf-sheepwilly_one: There are #apache -- Also, the startup daemon might be in /etc/default/04:45
calamityHowdy!04:45
Xeon3Dany solution to the iwlagn driver bug in 9.10 ?04:46
calamityI'm looking for a graphical way to monitor which processes are using the most CPU.04:46
calamityKind of like "top" but with a desktop widget04:46
Xeon3Dcalamity: sudo apt-get install htop04:46
Xeon3Doh :P04:46
Hilikuscalamity theres an app for that04:46
Hilikusin system04:46
lakotajamesHilikus: http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7520/1.html04:46
calamityXeon3D: thanks .:)04:46
Billiarditilious: mencoder tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:input=1:norm=NTSC:width=720:height=480:device=/dev/video0:adevice=/dev/dsp1:amode=1 -oac pcm -ovc raw -o filename04:46
lakotajamesHilikius:  look at the tests for ram usage.04:47
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calamityHilikus: in system where?04:47
Xeon3Dany solution to the iwlagn driver bug in 9.10 ? My wireless speed is like 1/10 of my wired speed. (and the router is like < 1m far from the laptop)04:47
jtaji!ops | Jigbuntu04:47
widgetcan i probe to see what hardwars isnt installed ?  my audio / wifi / touchpad all dont work04:47
loshajtaji: beat me to it...04:47
michael_I need some help with getting my nvidia geforce 9800 Gt and 2 acer al1916w monitors to work04:47
Hilikuswtf is that04:47
willy_oneleaf-sheep -- I tried #apache and they sent me here .. startup daemon.. okay.. thank you so much04:48
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HilikusJigbuntu are you a bot04:48
leaf-sheepwilly_one: Just nano the file and see.  It usually have 0 or 1 (to indicate true/false).04:48
Bondywilly_one sudo apt-get install apache204:49
michael_anyone know why my nvidia x server shows my current monitor as a CRT-0? and my second as Acer AL1916W (disabled)?04:49
Laughing_Godhi04:49
calamityXeon3D: actually, this isn't what I was after.04:49
Xeon3Dcalamity: I noticed, hence the oh! after04:50
calamityrephrase: I'm looking for a desktop widget.04:50
Bondywilly_one sorry misread what you asked with the spamming04:50
calamityXeon3D: fair enough :p04:50
Fezzlerdo i need to uninstall audacity when upgrading to new build?04:50
Hilikuslakotajames interesting04:50
Xeon3Dcalamity: tried gdesklets?04:50
willy_oneno apolagies needed..04:50
BilliardFezzler: how are you installing?04:50
willy_onelemm install apache right quick..04:50
widgetcan i probe to see what hardwars isnt installed ?  my audio / wifi / touchpad all dont work04:50
Laughing_GodIm now using toshiba portege m900.Its has nvidia graphic card.But in unable to enable the visual effect why?04:50
calamityXeon3D:  not yet, but that sounds promising04:50
willy_oneBRB04:50
Hilikusno screenshot though, i guess it looks like crap04:51
FezzlerBilliard>> From audacity site?04:52
BilliardFezzler: well is it a .deb file or are you installing from source or what?04:52
GuZ2k9i'm using jolicloud on an aspire one netbook and can't get sound working, jolicloud is based off ubuntu netbook remix so i was oping i could get some help here?04:52
lakotajamesHilikus: looks like a gnomey openbox.04:53
MenZa!derivatives | GuZ2k904:53
ubottuGuZ2k9: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mintsupport), LinuxMCE (support in #linuxmce), crunchbang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #remote-exploit)04:53
michael_anyone know why my nvidia x server shows my current monitor as a CRT-0? and my second as Acer AL1916W (disabled)?04:53
FezzlerBilliard>> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/04:53
Laughing_GodHow do i enable this Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player. ????04:53
MenZa!flash > Laughing_God04:53
ubottuLaughing_God, please see my private message04:53
FezzlerBilliard>> Linux / Unix04:53
Laughing_GodOkeu~04:53
ctmjrmichael_: you need to enable it if you want the second monitor04:53
GuZ2k9okay, thank you MenZa, i joined #jolicloud but no ones answered for hours now04:53
MenZaFezzler: audacity is in the repositories -- sudo apt-get install audacity04:53
FezzlerBilliard>> 1.3.1004:54
badbandithey anyone know how to install thunderbird 3?"04:54
FezzlerBilliard>> 1.3.10?04:54
MenZaGuZ2k9: That's unfortunate, but because everything's changed around, we can't provide support and assume it'll work.04:54
badbanditi dl it and extracted to folder but dont see any install file04:54
BilliardFezzler: if you are installing from source, i would uninstall first04:54
GuZ2k9okay, thanks anyway MenZa, have a good night04:54
michael_ctmjr: I did enable it. but when I hit quit and start it back up it goes back to disabled.04:54
willy_oneokay, got apache & php installed .. if I reboot, how can I tell if it ran at startup?04:54
willy_one(on ubuntu desktop_)04:54
FezzlerBilliard>> to uninstall audacity, just delete folders?04:55
willy_onewell shoot..  I'll be back04:55
Bondywilly_one if it starts on reboot it will display as started during boot04:56
BilliardFezzler: um, i dont know of a good way to uninstall after installing from source, you can use checkinstall when you install from source to create a deb, so it can be easily removed later04:56
ctmjrmichael_: try it with sudo nvidia-settings then enable the second monitor then save the configuration to xorg there are buttons for it in the nvidia-settings04:56
Bondynot sure but if it doesent because it has been set to not start wether it would give a fail message04:57
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Laughing_GodHow do i enable cube effect?04:58
lazydragooni install  ubuntu from kubuntu can i delete kubuntu because i not using kubuntu anymore04:58
tommyonIf I click on "exit" it will present me with the option to suspend or hibernate (which do not work on this laptop.) Is there a way to hide these buttons in Xfce4? (I'm using Xubuntu Jaunty.)04:58
goddardhey yo04:58
leaf-sheep!cube | Laughing_God04:58
ubottuLaughing_God: Compiz-Fusion (and the older Compiz and Beryl) are window managers that employ the "composite" extension of X to draw windows using graphics cards' 3D hardware. They can additionally provide "desktop special effects" (such as the "cube") by means of plug-ins. Join #compiz-fusion for help and support with advanced features. See also « /msg ubottu compiz » and « /msg ubottu effects »04:58
Laughing_GodThanks04:59
Billiard!puregnome | lazydragoon04:59
ubottulazydragoon: If you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 kdelibs5-data && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » into a !terminal04:59
goddardI am having a problem with totem and the you tube plugin I want to watch my videos but it often gives me an error "Automount failed: mountpoint for org.gtk.vfs.mountpoint.http already running"  I also would like to be able to use playlist options any ideas?04:59
airtonixbadbandit, http://digitizor.com/2009/12/10/how-to-install-thunderbird-3-shredder-in-ubuntu-9-10/04:59
Laughing_God!restricted05:00
lazydragoonok05:00
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats05:00
RPG_MasterCan anyone here help me with setting up a AT&T 3g USB stick with Ubuntu?05:00
balleynehow do I find out what my Alt Gr key is?05:01
hanasakihow do I get the kernel boot menu back in grub?  looks like it autoupdated to grub2 with 1.97 and it just boots to A kernel without ever showing a boot list05:01
michael_ok i got it to enable, but I can't see it. Monitor is blank.05:01
Billiardhanasaki: hold shift i believe05:01
leaf-sheephanasaki: Hold SHIFT at boot.05:01
airtonixRPG_Master, have you read this : http://6head.blogspot.com/2008/12/now-to-3g-wireless-working.html05:01
ctmjrRPG_Master: i plugged mine in and it showed up under the network-manager under broadband had the phone number and everything i just hit connect05:02
michael_and why is this monitor i'm looking at called crt-0 and the one that I can't see is called acer AL1916W?05:02
goddardI am having a problem with totem and the you tube plugin I want to watch my videos but it often gives me an error "Automount failed: mountpoint for org.gtk.vfs.mountpoint.http already running"  I also would like to be able to use playlist options any ideas?05:02
leaf-sheepmichael_: You're using AVI connection instead of DVI, I think.05:02
oddbioIf I'm not using GNome, then what uses less resource, gnome-terminal, or xterm?05:02
hanasakileaf-sheep: ? shift?  the grub site says to edit the files in /etc !!!!05:02
cplx I have a ibm x3550 M2 server - I want to configure the drives for RAID.. I can't seem to see a RAID utility when its booting up.. where can I05:02
cplx              setup RAID 1 for these drivers?05:02
michael_yes avi connection on both05:02
badbanditwhere should i place downloaded programs such as thunderbird in my file structure?05:02
michael_avi with a dvi adapter05:03
leaf-sheephanasaki: For permanent, probably.  To access a list of kernels, just hold SHIFT.05:03
lazydragoonok i got problem when i install something in ubuntu i have to accpt the agreement but when i take the arrow down the accept term stay black so i can't accept and install someone have a idea ?05:03
balleynewhat's the "Alt Gr" key?05:03
willy_oneokay, I've got Apache install on my Ubuntu Desktop.. how do I keep it from running at startup?05:03
hanasakileaf-sheep:  yes shift works Thanks!  there no way to get it to come up automatically with a timer like old grub?  also the memtest86+ doesn't work05:03
leaf-sheep!grub2 | hanasaki05:04
ubottuhanasaki: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub205:04
Billiardbadbandit: you should install using the package manager05:04
badbandit3.0 isnt in there05:04
Laughing_GodWhat is exectaly sudo is means?05:04
leaf-sheep!sudo | Laughing_God05:04
ubottuLaughing_God: sudo is a command to run programs with superuser privileges ("root"). Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo for more information. For graphical applications see !gksu (Gnome, XFCE), or !kdesudo (KDE)05:04
Laughing_Godwhy every command has sudo?05:04
hanasakithanks leaf-sheep05:05
RPG_Masterctmjr: Really? A 3G USB stick?05:05
RPG_MasterJust making sure :P05:05
Laughing_GodThanks leaf05:05
leaf-sheepbadbandit: Search "Launchpad, Mozilla Daily PPA" -- Add the PPA and there are Thunderbird 3.0/3.105:05
badbanditok05:06
FloodBot2!netsplit05:07
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit05:07
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hanasakileaf-sheep: memtest86+ says "linux16 memtest86+"  and when its selected it says "file not found"05:08
emmaDo any of you have a scanner that is currently for sale at bestbuy that works perfectly on ubuntu?05:09
GuZ2k9this is really odd, i'm getting sounds in certain apps in ubuntu05:09
GuZ2k9pidgin gives me IM sounds , yet watching a youtube video or using grooveshark doesnt work05:09
JustMozzyhi guys05:09
RPG_Masterwhat just happened?05:09
JustMozzyI am currently configuring wallpapers for my desktop cube but they look aweful because they are streched. how can I set the mode to zoom (like in nautilus desktop)05:10
willy_one!! How do I keep apache from running at startup?05:10
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:10
freeride1please help, what repositories must have to install lamp?05:10
freeride1!lamp05:10
ubottuLAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process (different in Edgy+)05:10
freeride1please help, what repositories must have to install lamp?05:12
Billiardfreeride1: look at that link from ubottu05:12
GuZ2k9what the hell just happened?05:12
hanasakiwhen my screensaver is on and I move the mouse or start to type the password the dialog does not come up however it does take the password.  how can I get this to work correctly?  this is just since upgrading to 9.1005:12
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freeride1freeride1 I did, there isn't any05:13
GuZ2k9pidgin gives me IM sounds , yet watching a youtube video or using grooveshark doesnt work..anyone know why?05:13
GuZ2k9in fact, i get an error whenever trying to use grooveshark05:13
freeride1BilliardI1 did, there isn't any05:13
Billiardfreeride1: you dont need to add any 3rd party repositories05:13
michael_ok I now have 2 screens working.... now I need to understand why the "main" monitor is not showing up the same as the other monitor. ie. 1st monitor is CRT-0 2nd monitor is Acer AL1916W. They are both Acer AL1916W's05:13
doublindirectionanyone knows what could cause high cpu temperature even on low usage?05:14
freeride1Billiard but why apt-get doesn't find the packages?05:14
Billiardfreeride1: which package?05:14
freeride1lamp-server05:14
plunkeddoublindirection, bad cooling?05:14
doublindirectioncpu load is 3-4%, freq scaled down to 800mhz, cpu temp 60+C05:15
goddardI am having a problem with totem and the you tube plugin I want to watch my videos but it often gives me an error "Automount failed: mountpoint for org.gtk.vfs.mountpoint.http already running"  I also would like to be able to use playlist options any ideas?05:15
ganymedehi, i was wondering if there is a way to apply the noatime mount option globally (or at least for all devices that are hotplugged in.) i don't want to have to create a new fstab entry for each of my USB devices just to add the noatime option05:15
doublindirectionplunked, is fine in windows, no overheating at all05:15
doublindirectionrunning at 30C05:15
Billiardfreeride1: read the link, it tells you how to install lamp05:15
plunkedthats pretty interesting :\ im not too sure what could cause that - perhaps bad drivers?05:16
plunkedim not certain though05:16
freeride1Billiard well, i do not want to install apache2, mysql, etc... In 8.04 i just apt-get install lamp^, and05:17
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michael_ok I now have 2 screens working.... now I need to understand why the "main" monitor is not showing up the same as the other monitor. ie. 1st monitor is CRT-0 2nd monitor is Acer AL1916W. They are both Acer AL1916W's05:17
ianm_how would I add a little of the mic input to the audio output (for headphone skype) ?05:17
GuZ2k9what the hell is going on?!05:17
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Billiardfreeride1: you are saying you are too lazy to read the link? ok then,   sudo tasksel install lamp-server05:18
FreeaqingmeGuZ2k9, past few days freenode is being DDOS'ed, and as a result of that, there's some netsplits05:18
Amaranth!netsplit05:18
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit05:18
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Gaarahi05:18
doublindirectionanybody with an hp elitebook laptop?05:18
Billiard!anyone | doublindirection05:18
ubottudoublindirection: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:18
Gaaranot elite but pavilion05:19
kishorehi all05:19
Gaarahey anyone a java geek here...05:19
GuZ2k9pidgin gives me IM sounds , yet watching a youtube video or using grooveshark doesnt work..anyone know why?05:19
GuZ2k9i'm using an acer aspire one05:19
kishoreis like any microsoft office in linux05:19
GuZ2k9netbook, that is05:19
riverbird_ditto on pavillion.  what's the real question?05:19
BilliardGuZ2k9: how did you install flash?05:19
kishoreubuntu05:19
doublindirection:) wondering if anyone with an elitebook laptop has cooling problems...05:19
GuZ2k9Billiard: what do you mean?05:20
Gaarai have a million of doubts in java am doin a project can any one help me out...05:20
MenZaGaara: Try ##java05:20
BilliardGuZ2k9: how did you install the flash plugin? it isnt installed by default05:20
Gaaraya every HP laptop has the cooling prob05:20
doublindirectionbecause mine is idling at 60C, but only when in linux05:21
michael_why does nvidia x server show one of my two Acer monitors as CRT-0?05:21
BilliardGuZ2k9: open the package manager and check if the "flashplugin-nonfree"  package is installed05:21
FloodBot3!netsplit05:21
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit05:21
michael_why does nvidia x server show one of my two Acer monitors as CRT-0?05:21
doublindirectionthat is what puzzles me, that windows xp has no problems05:21
Billiarddoublindirection: 60C isnt super bad05:21
alankilamichael_: a wild guess: you have connected the other one via dvi and another via vga?05:21
michael_alankila: nope both are using a dvi adapter05:22
alankilaoh. Well, was worth a shot.05:22
michael_lol thanks...05:23
michael_it's just really weird05:23
doublindirectionBilliard, that is on idle, if i'm doing actually doing anything goes higher and typing on a warm keyboard for longer sessions becomes unpleasant05:23
michael_why does nvidia x server show one of my two Acer monitors as CRT-0?05:23
Billiarddoublindirection: my video card idles at 60C05:23
Billiarddoublindirection: what temperatures do you get in windows?05:24
Gaaraany java experts here pls help!!!!!!!!!05:24
doublindirectionBilliard, around 3505:25
BilliardGaara: try in java channel maybe05:25
Billiarddoublindirection: anything using a lot of cpu?05:25
freeride1Billiard I remembered, I just need to type sudo tasksel )))05:25
riverbird_Gaara, not a java room05:25
doublindirectiontop says Cpu(s):  4.5%us05:25
Gaarai can't find any java channel....05:26
michael_why does nvidia x server show one of my two Acer monitors as CRT-0? and the other as Acer?05:26
ganymedewhy is it that when i'm doing a lot of disk I/O on a dual core, the system becomes unresponsive and jerky even though one CPU is doing all the I/O wait and the other is sitting there 90% idle according to "top"? shouldn't syscalls or I/O only block one core, not both? can't the other core take care of keeping my desktop responsive?05:26
alankilamichael_: I bet you get better results from google than repeating that endlessly here.05:26
ganymedemy physical memory has a lot free according to free -m05:27
BilliardGaara: ##java  ?05:27
michael_alankila: one would think... but man that's like looking for a needle in the ocean05:27
alankilaganymede: the problem is that applications also need to access the disk occasionally, due to on-demand paging and memory pressure issues. But these requests are queued with the other IO.05:27
Lostinspace_46Gaara:-) Yeah..what Billiard said05:27
alankilathus, they stall, and linux on the whole stalls. Also there have been bugs with data transfer on one physical device also blocking the other disks, which is even worse.05:28
Lostinspace_46When a window opens, does gnome set it's location05:29
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ianm_Lostinspace_46: metacity or compiz does that05:29
riverbird /join #ubuntu-us-nm05:30
linux0ghey all05:30
Lostinspace_46ianm_:-) Hmmm, compiz?  I will check, thanks05:30
linux0gi love compiz05:30
soreauLostinspace_46: The Window Manager is responsible for that behavior. Default window manager in gnome is metacity, but you can use compiz or any other for that matter. It should be noted only one window manager can be used at any given time05:31
linux0gis that a ddos attack?05:31
linux0gor some type of flood05:31
soreau! netsplit | linux0g05:31
ubottulinux0g: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit05:31
linux0g?05:31
linux0goh05:31
widgetcan ubuntu 8.04 not see NTFS ? i got an external hdd connected with files i need to access05:31
Gaarawhy is everyone quiting like that..05:31
ganymedealankila, oh i see, i just realized by disk I/O probably caused a lot of things to be cached and thus the applications got swapped05:31
linux0gty for the clarification05:31
Billiardwidget: ubuntu can access ntfs partitions05:32
linux0gganymede......05:32
Lostinspace_46soreau:-) Thanks, I am looking now05:32
soreau! netsplit | Gaara05:32
ubottuGaara: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit05:32
linux0gi just had it explained to me05:32
linux0gyup05:32
alankilaganymede: not necessarily swapped. Swapping is the fate of what is called anonymous (not file backed) memory. Application pages are called page cache, and page cache gets shrunk during IO.05:32
linux0gthere ya go05:32
soreauwidget: 8.04 should be able to mount ntfs just fine05:32
linux0g8.04 cant upgrade to 9.1005:32
linux0gthats kinda wierd, and you'd think they would have a upgrade option in the iso or on the cd05:33
ctmjrekontsevoy: did you try man dpkg, man apt-get or man aptitude05:33
wee_hi, i cant get my mic to work. i have tried to oppen up all channels in alsamixer and tried to change my input source with no luck. when i try to start pavumeter --record i just get "connection refused". i can hear my mic through my speakers and i can mute it in the mixer. my sound card is alc889a hd audio. (gigabyte ma790x-ud4 mother board) does anyone know how i can fix my problem ?05:33
linux0galsa05:33
linux0guuuuuuuuuuuug05:34
linux0gthats soooo anoying05:34
Xeon3Dlinux0g: indeed. (that is if you're speaking about the netsplits)05:34
linux0gyes05:34
pfakmdadm question: I have a RAID6 array that has two failed drives, I readded the drives and now one says "spare rebuilding" and the other one says "spare." All drives previously said "active sync" in the mdadm details. Does a spare drive after its done syncing turn to "active sync" and then proceed to sync the next spare drive?05:35
linux0gnetsplits suck, but it happens.05:35
ganymedealankila, page cache "shrunk?" like it just discards memory that processes had allocated? i thought the OS would put that into my swap file because it determined that that process would be sleeping for a long time05:35
hanasakianyone know how to NAT dtls?05:35
widgetoh ok.. its saying i can't mount volume :S .. not too sure wat that meanws05:35
hanasakinot tls05:35
Xeon3Dit seems freenode is being DDoS'ed05:36
riverbirdlinux0g, 8.04 will be able to upgrade directly to 10.04 in april, otherwise yes, you have to go through each distro.  at this point i might just wait05:36
KindOneXeon3D: http://www.irc-junkie.org/2009-12-15/freenode-under-ddos/      Yes it is.05:36
alankilaganymede: there are two kinds of memory application consists of: read-write memory and read-only memory. The read-only memory is the stuff like application code or files memory mapped in read-only fashion.05:36
alankilathese can be reconstructed just by reading the data from the same files they were originally read in the first place and thus they don't need to be swapped.05:37
sontekIs there a log that shows when a computer was turned on / off05:37
ganymedealankila, so that's what's being discarded when i do I/O?05:37
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ganymedealankila, i'm reading over 6 gigs of files, and i only have 4 gigs of physical memory05:38
ganymedealankila, of course, the 6 gigs aren't open the entire time, it's just reading through and closing file after file05:38
alankilayes, what linux does is shrink page cache (chiefly) and push anonymous memory on swap when you cause memory pressure.05:39
ganymedealankila, thanks for the clarification05:39
alankilathe page cache is shrunk to make room for the data. Linux doesn't know if you are going to use the data again, so all it can do is guess that probably you will05:39
willy_onePEACE ON EARTH -- GOOD WILL TOWARD MEN05:40
cyberjorgehi, I get this error whenever I start ubuntu server, how do I get away with this.... http://pastebin.com/m18bcddc905:40
ganymedealankila, the line in the "top" command labelled cache refers to this page cache? and "buffers" refers to r/w data that can be swapped?05:40
wee_is here anyone that can hlp me with my mic problem ?05:40
alankilaganymede: I am in fact not 100% sure what buffers refers to. I believe that these are contents of device blocks which are known by OS but not used by anything, or dirty data not yet written to disk05:41
Code_Bleumy picasa 3 for linux throws an error everytime i launch. If i move the error out of the way, some things still work, but some dont...if i click "send error" , "dont send" , or "cancel" it closes the app. How can i troubleshoot whats causing this? I've uninstalled and reinstalled the app too05:41
riverbird!anyone | wee05:41
ubottuwee: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?05:41
alankilathe anonymous memory is not directly shown by top, but you can infer its presence from taking the value in RES column and subtracting the SHR column. At least this amount is anonymous -- not shareable.05:42
Code_Bleuim wondering if it is 9.10 related.  Cant remember if this started after i upgraded or not05:42
ganymedealankila, thanks for the advice05:42
wee_ohh. im sry ityped it some time ago05:42
wee_hi, i cant get my mic to work. i have tried to oppen up all channels in alsamixer and tried to change my input source with no luck. when i try to start pavumeter --record i just get "connection refused". i can hear my mic through my speakers and i can mute it in the mixer. my sound card is alc889a hd audio. (gigabyte ma790x-ud4 mother board) does anyone know how i can fix my problem ?05:42
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riverbirdwee_, do you have other audio programs running? or anything with jack?05:44
AegNuddelHow do I install fonts in Ubuntu?05:44
Crash1hdlosha: Well it completed successfully or at least that is to what I would imagine (I had it reboot) and then I am now running it again but this time I added -fp so its another wait and see :)05:44
Hilikusdamn it, i just wiped out my /home partition because stupid windows offered to format it. i formated it to NTFS. is there any way to try to recover some of the stuff from there or it's a lost cause? the FS was jfs05:44
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wee_i have tryed to exit all programs that uses sound05:45
wee_still the same05:45
wee_have been like this for mounths05:45
riverbirdAegNuddel, download and put into /home/.fonts - the .fonts folder is not there natively, you may need to create it05:45
ganymedeAegNuddel, if you want to install them for your user only, copy them into the directory ~/.fonts/ and create it if you need to05:45
AegNuddeloh okay right now I am the only user05:46
GAARAnop..05:46
ganymedeAegNuddel, also, some fonts may be available in the repos05:46
wee_to clearify, my curent soundcard has never worked05:46
AegNuddelah05:46
ganymederiverbird, did you mean to say /home/yourusername/.fonts ?05:47
Crash1hdHilikus: unfortunatly once you have formated there is no way to go back its a lost cause (sometimes when you play with windows you get cut) lol05:47
Lostinspace_46soreau:-) Thanks, I got my windows doing ok.  Now I need to deal with where an icon is placed if, for instance, a thumb-drive is mounted05:47
DunasIs there some way to make the stupid notifications disappear when I click on them, or to somehow customize the notification applet at all yet?05:47
GnarwalI would like to thank the Ubuntu devs who put the factoids on the bot. It helped me fix my grub2 and a lot of time scanning over documentation!05:47
AegNuddelI had a folder called fonts...if I renamed it with the dot would it work or do I have to creat a brand new foldser?05:48
AegNuddelcreate05:48
ganymedeHilikus, there are expensive professional services to retrieve your data but it'll probably be upwards of $2000, especially since it's JFS05:48
Crash1hdHilikus: of course I am assuming that you dont have backup or you wouldnt be asking05:48
riverbirdganymede, aren't /home and /myusername the same?05:48
Hilikusnah, i didn't have anything important anyway. i'm just wondering if there was anything to do05:48
soreauLostinspace_46: Your icons are controlled by nautilus, not the window manager. and I don't know enough about nautilus to say if you can tell it where to place it's icon05:48
Dunas:L05:48
riverbirdAegNuddel, check free fonts http://www.theleagueofmoveabletype.com/05:48
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HilikusCrash1hd i have backup of every hard drive except this one of course, hehe05:48
Crash1hdHilikus: well that would be murphys law lol05:49
riverbirdwee_, can you not play any sound?05:49
soreauLostinspace_46: I always disable all icons to make for a cleaner looking desktop and access whatever I need through the places menu or file browser05:49
ganymederiverbird, type "echo $HOME" in a shell to see your homedir, it's usually /home/yourusername. /home is the folder where all user homedirectories go05:49
Lostinspace_46soreau:-) Thanks, I will look it over.05:49
alankilajfs fsck could be worth trying. If the drive was quick-formated, that is.05:49
Hilikusand i just bought a new one to be able to back this one up, which is exactly why i ended up formating the wrong one, i meant to format the new one05:49
ganymederiverbird, normal users should not have write access to /home/05:49
starcannonAegNuddel I believe if you drop it in ~/ and name it .fonts and reboot or reload your font cache(the command escapes me at the moment for font cache, it should work05:49
wee_riverbird: my outout works, its just my input that dosent work05:49
outer_spaceis there anything like source-insight for ubuntu?05:49
Crash1hddoh05:50
alankilaIf there was a proper format, the data is lost and not even the most expensive data recovery firm in the world could recover it. It's common belief that some magnetic residue could be extracted with sensitive instruments, but I doubt that is the case for modern drives.05:50
AegNuddelis that just in home or under my user name?05:50
riverbirdganymede, maybe my mistake.  i am a solo user, so home and username ar ethe same folder for me05:50
AegNuddellol nm05:50
starcannonAegNuddel under your username05:51
riverbirdganymede, please clarify for AegNuddel05:51
Stadenhave any of you installed ubuntu on an intel ss4200-e NAS? I'm contemplating doing so myself, and I'd like to know if there are any potential stumbling blocks that I might not be aware of05:51
starcannonit'd be /home/your_username/.fonts05:51
riverbirdAegNuddel, username/.fonts05:51
AegNuddelI put "install" after looking at it font viewer05:51
Gnarwalouter_space, I use Bluefish editor for my css and js05:51
AegNuddelwill see if it is there05:51
HilikusCrash1hd do you know what type of partition table does linux need? my new one doesn't have one but i get several types from parted to create05:51
Gnarwalouter_space, I've heard good things about Geany too05:51
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BilliardHilikus: you can just use msdos05:52
starcannonAegNuddel after you do that you'll also need to rebuild font cache...$ sudo fc-cache -f -v05:52
AegNuddelit shows up fine05:52
AegNuddelI am on 9.10...05:52
HilikusBilliard is that the best one? it sounds old. i do need to share that disk with windows so it has to be a table that windows understand05:53
Kevin`how can I install ubuntu as a xen guest? the normal netinstall kernel boots but doesn't seem to have the network driver included05:53
yuseirc dal.net05:53
BilliardHilikus: i would just use msdos if windows needs to share it, yes it is old05:53
HilikusBilliard ok, thanks a lot05:53
riverbirdwee_, sometimes there are conflicts between players - some use jack or alsa. i have had problems with mic as well05:53
alankilaHilikus: always use the ms-dos partition table format.05:53
alankilatry to use anything else and you're probably in world of pain05:54
Hilikusalankila ok, got that. thanks05:54
riverbirdwee_, have you tries the mic alone after a fresh reboot?05:54
* alankila thinks even BIOS cares about the partition table format.05:54
Hilikusso now that i lost /home is there a way to recreate at least a default setup for home?05:55
Hilikusso now that i lost /home is there a way to recreate at least a default setup for home?05:55
Oddbiois there a IRC command to display a list of all users. In IRSSI especially in this channel with so many users, is there a sort of "less" command I can use with it to view all of them?05:55
Kevin`Hilikus: /etc/skel05:55
wee_riverbird: i have tryed to reinstall some times, switched to kubuntu. and same thing. i dont know is pavumeter --record is using alsa or not. but that dosent work. i tried mumble and that dosent work in alsa or oss. my output sound works very well05:55
HilikusKevin` what's that?05:55
Kevin`Hilikus: the files that get stuck in a new /home/user folder05:56
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agusjanybody know how to install pc station05:56
HilikusKevin` so i should create a new /home folder with my user and then copy /etc/skel to it?05:56
Jaikkulii don't know a lot about file systems, but i recall the difference between ext2 and ext3 would be the size/number of files stored, one better for lots of little files, one better for a small amount of bigger files, is this correct? and if so, which is better for lots of little files05:57
BilliardHilikus: yeah05:57
alankilaJaikkuli: you must be confusing reiserfs here05:57
Kevin`Hilikus: be sure to make the folder and the files you copy into it owned by your user05:57
cn28hJaikkuli, no, the difference is that ext3 has journaling05:57
DunasIs there some way to make the stupid notifications disappear when I click on them, or to somehow customize the notification applet at all yet?05:57
ganymedeJaikkuli, ext3 also enables journaling, which ext2 lacks. journalling protects your data somewhat from unexpected shutdown05:58
HilikusBilliard i'm guessing programs that had settings stored in /home like amarok will just recreate fresh settings right? or will they just fail because they don't find a settings file05:58
Kevin`Hilikus: chown -R user:user ~user, once your done05:58
riverbirdman that netsplit is annoying ..05:58
BilliardHilikus: they will recreate their settings05:58
HilikusKevin` ok05:58
Hilikuscool05:58
Jaikkuliganymede: what's the tradeoff for this protection05:58
Hilikusthanks a lot guys05:58
Kevin`someone help me with installing ubuntu in xen?05:58
alankilaganymede: not data. It mostly exists to avoid fsck after boot. That is its primary function. Otherwise you could argue it's slower than ext2.05:58
Gnarwalriverbird, esp when you are in the middle of a conversation05:59
ald85español?05:59
alankilawhat it protects is something termed metadata consistency.05:59
riverbirdwee_, from my experience, and i am no expert with sound issues, my guess is that there is an alsa/jack conflict.  once one get loaded, the other wont run and vice-versa05:59
Gnarwal!es > ald8505:59
ubottuald85, please see my private message05:59
riverbirdGnarwal, no doubt05:59
AegNuddellol there06:00
Jaikkulialankila: is this slowness significant?06:00
AegNuddelwas not complicated like everything says06:00
wee_riverbird: okay, how do i set my input to alsa then ?06:00
alankilaJaikkuli: no. You would be crazy to use ext2 for that reason.06:00
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AegNuddelwas not on 9.10 anyway06:00
Jaikkulialankila: what is a good reason to use ext206:00
alankilawell, it has been suggested that if you had a filesystem you would format at every reboot anyway only suitable for throwaway data, you might want to use ext2 for it, as it would be slightly faster.06:01
alankilabut nobody in practice does this, of course.06:01
riverbirdald85, ##espanol06:01
OddbioCan someone tell me what I would have to type into the terminal to run Ubuntu's Software Center?  Thanks06:01
lstarnesriverbird: #ubuntu-es06:01
Jaikkulialankila: i see06:01
Gnarwal!es06:02
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.06:02
Jaikkulithanks for the help guys06:02
HoppiOddbio: I believe "software-center"06:02
riverbirdlstarnes, thx for correction06:02
HoppiOddbio: But I only got that by typing in "soft" and hitting TAB a couple of times to autocomplete it! :)06:02
alankilaat one point people spoke about using ext2 for flash devices, perhaps before wear leveling. The problem with journals was that they keep on writing a lot of stuff on the journal and thus destroy the flash device. But that was before wear leveling was widely used.06:02
Gluonnetsplit?06:02
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OddbioHoppi: o.o lol  thanks06:03
Gnarwalnetsplit spam06:03
Jaikkulialankila: i see, well i was wanting to boot linux on an sdcard, though i wasnt sure yet, still had to read into it06:03
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alankilaI run linux from an usb stick personally on my laptop. I use ext4 for it.06:04
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Jaikkulialankila: i have not heard of ext4, is this better for running on such storage devices like usb sticks and sdcards?06:04
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Gnarwal!ops06:05
alankilaJaikkuli: it represents an evolution of the ext filesystem series, adding extents and improved journaling that avoids some costly sync operations that plague ext3 performance.06:05
JustMozzyI am having a big problem. I installed Cairo-Dock but now whenever I restart ciaro dock fails to start and block execution of anything else that should start-up (naming nautilus and gnome-panel which are pretty important) I could not even just restart or do anything because the cairo-dock maintenance window would always open itself over and over again. now I started ubuntu in gnome failsafe mode and tried to play around with the session settings but they 06:05
ganymedehah, that's smart, i never thought of that06:05
ne171procool06:05
alankilaI personally believe ext2 and ext3 are legacy systems now and ext4 is the recommended default filesystem.06:05
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Hoppiwhat is ! ops?06:05
ne171prohow do i make my font bigger06:05
ganymedeHoppi, it's used to call a channel op to ban someone who is causing troubel06:05
Hoppiand also, how do i put something in like, orange alert... status :)06:05
Hoppioh awesome :)06:06
AegNuddelI did not know a file system could just "evolve..." will it eventually develo its own AI? :P06:06
AegNuddeldevelop06:06
HoppiAegNuddel: ......... yes.06:06
Hoppihehehe06:06
ganymedeHoppi, it causes ubotu to paste a line consisting of the nicknames of the ops, which causes their IRC clients to pop up a notification in case they're in front of their comp06:06
Jaikkulialankila: thanks, also one other thing, do you know any pages that will explain how to properly make storage devices bootable?06:06
riverbirdwee_, not sure about that, someone else maybe .. are you using the sound recorder by distro default?06:06
AegNuddelEither a scary or interesting thought depending on if it develops for or against us06:07
ne171proany body interested in a super secret document i found?  Its just a wave file.06:07
alankilaJaikkuli: no, but what it entails is: 1) bios knows about it; 2) it contains a boot sector that loads a boot loader; 3) some bioses may require that a partition is marked bootable.06:07
IdleOnene171pro: no06:07
ne171produde it's crazy06:07
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ubottune171pro: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!06:07
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OddbioI can't seem to run "alsamixer" and I have no sound. This is not the case in GNome, however I like to use the ratpoison window manager instead, but when I use ratpoison I have no sound and running "alsamixer" says:  alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory06:08
alankilaJaikkuli: so you basically make a single partition, flag it as bootable, copy a linux install on it and install grub, and then ensure that BIOS boots removeable media first... that's how I do it, anyway.06:08
riverbirdAegNuddel, Hoppi oh geez, are we going to get into friendly ai here? .. ;-)06:09
HoppiOddbio: ... you could try starting the Gnome sound manager thing06:09
Xeon3Derm.. who called?06:09
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wee_riverbird: im typing from kubuntu atm. so itryed a terminal recorder, but it seems that i dont have any input sound what so ever on my system. same as in ubuntu06:10
alankilaXeon3D: go back to sleep, someone just pasted the entire names list of the channel.06:10
HoppiOddbio: just to see if it works really :)06:10
IdleOneXeon3D: it was a spam bot06:10
Xeon3Doh06:11
Xeon3D:)06:11
Xeon3DI'm a bit sleepy, but fiddling with 10-year old hardware rocks :)06:11
GnarwalXeon3D, false alarm :)06:11
wee_riverbird: when i look in menus i only find output, cant find anything that says input06:11
Hoppiowh the Kubuntu room is very quiet ._.06:11
OddbioHoppi: ok, sorry to ask but what would that be?  gnome-sound-manager?06:11
HoppiKubuntu ftw *waves little flag*06:11
Hoppiheh :)06:11
riverbirdwee_, hmm.  dont thin i can help.  maybe re-ask a new question ..06:12
HoppiOddbio: erm... often you can just guess at some of it and hit TAB06:12
riverbirdwee_, do you have 'sound recorder' in your sound/video?06:12
ald85i need some help the adobe flash player settings wont work no matter what i do, when i wanna broadcast my webcam in a webchat i just cant click the allow button06:12
wee_riverbird: no06:12
isolat3dsh33pald85: try unabling compiz-fusion06:12
alankilaald85: you have 64-bit linux. Uninstall the flashplayer and get adobe's 64-bit alpha player06:12
ald85is there any command for that??06:13
JustMozzycan anyone help me? why does is the session not saved when I use the session manager in gnome failsafe mode? I need to have it saved so I can normally use my ubuntu in the default mode :s06:13
riverbirdwee_, it's usually in ubuntu.  check to add/remove apps?06:13
ald85or where can i get it?06:13
rojoloco47hello06:13
wee_riverbird: i just installed pulseaudio manager. and that just list output under devices06:13
rojoloco47I need a little help with BIOS if some one can help me :)06:13
Giertrudoops had to reboot because of error 1306:13
jonrob287is there a software that u talk into the microphone and it types it out?06:14
alankilaI appreciate the fact that ubuntu people (and world in general) reminds us all that 64-bit computing still sucks.06:14
HoppiOddbio: Problem is it's probably something to doo with the fact that Gnome sound's system isn't kicking in06:14
Giertrudheld a key too long and my cursor was stuck on the file move thing06:14
riverbirdwee_, does pulseaudio run jack/alsa?06:14
Billiardjonrob287: yes, but it doesnt work well06:14
jonrob287why not?06:14
HoppiOddbio: I mean you CAN run ALSA without it of course, and PulseAudio I would imagine, but I'm not so sure how, that's why I just sit here with KDE and Phonon sound system :)06:14
widgetguys, i installed gSynaptics, but it didnt give me a touchpad Tab in the mouse settings06:14
Billiardjonrob287: because its still in development06:14
riverbirdwee_, i don't use pulse, so no experience.  what is it you are trying to do with the mic input?06:15
GiertrudI wanted to know why no MIDI composers seem to work06:15
ald85whats the command for uninstalling flash??06:15
Jaikkulican someone tell me what the raw ubuntu 9.1 size would be once installed?06:15
ShazbotMcNastyald85, sudo apt-get purge flash-plugin06:15
Hoppiald85: depends what flash plugin you have06:15
rojoloco47i have a netbook Acer Aspire One ZG5 and its screen is black and donot show anything on it ,I searched for the problem and other who have this problem is because of BIOS ,i have to update BIOS can some body help me in this ? :)06:15
wee_riverbird: im trying to make it work, so i can use it in mumble06:15
jonrob287thnx billiard06:15
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wee_riverbird: how do i check if it runs jack/alsa ?06:16
ald85is there any command for installing the adobe 64 bit alpha player?06:16
Jaikkulican someone tell me what the raw ubuntu 9.1 size would be once installed?06:16
Hoppiald85: fire up synaptic for me :)06:16
riverbirdHoppi, pls check my chat w/ wee_ .  trying to figure out no mic/ sound input?06:16
alankilaald85: no, you fetch the .tar.gz from adobe and drop it into .mozilla/plugins at your home dir06:16
rojoloco47Please help or guide me from where I can get help ?06:16
OddbioHoppi: well I'm sure your advice was correct, because I wasn't getting wireless in ratpoison either until I added nm-applet (the gnome wireless applet) to startup06:16
DunasIs there some way to make the stupid notifications disappear when I click on them, or to somehow customize the notification applet at all yet?06:16
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rojoloco47#remote-exploit06:16
OddbioHoppi: I just have to figure out the correct command to run, thanks anyway06:17
HoppiOddbio: why do you want to use Ratpoison anyway? heh :)06:17
widgetanyone know nwat im doing wrong ?06:17
riverbirdHoppi, maybe you know something about pulse and mumble?06:17
OddbioHoppi: i dunno, I just like it's simplicity06:17
Hoppiriverbird: I dunno, all I know is I have a lot of luck in KDE, that's why I use it06:17
Hoppiwell, one of the reasons :)06:17
riverbirdok.06:17
isolat3dsh33pDunas: The notigication is unclickable. If you click it, it will pass through to the window behind it06:18
Billiardrojoloco47: nothing appears on the screen when you turn it on, not even bios splash?06:18
rojoloco47yes @ Billiard06:18
Hilikuswhat's the recommended FS for /home?06:18
Billiardrojoloco47: sounds broken, use warranty06:18
wee_riverbird: where can i check if alc889a hd audio is supported06:18
BilliardHilikus: ext3 or ext406:18
rojoloco47nothing appeared06:18
kenjyguys can you help me? I have a intel 82801H sound card, the issue its that it just can play one sound at a time, I have ubuntu 9.1006:19
riverbirdwee_,  maybe the forums?  also, are you running KDE?06:19
vedhey guys which of gnome n kde is better according to u?06:19
Billiardrojoloco47: still under warranty?06:19
jonrob287billiard what is the software called06:19
rojoloco47I have searched the google and all those who have this problem finds for solution and acer says its solution is to update BIOS @ Billiard06:19
isolat3dsh33pved: You just have to try both06:19
wee_riverbird: yes im running kubuntu now. after trying ubuntu reinstalls a copple of times06:19
Hoppiwee_: I use basically the same sound hardware I think!06:20
HilikusBilliard do you know of a recent comparison between ext4 and jfs or xfs?06:20
Hoppiwee_: onboard yeah?06:20
excalibasHello, I just upgraded to karmic and there is something wrong with my codecs, all videos I see have switched colours (like blue ppl) in the movie player and in vlc. on mplayer ther look ok06:20
rojoloco47yeah its under warranty but I want to fix it as soon as possible @ Billiard ,I have exams going on and the resource data is in that hDD06:20
wee_hoppi: yes06:20
vedi tried kubuntu.. but something happened after updating it n i could login only to command line06:20
Hoppiwee_: ah, you are having problems with Phonon?06:20
ShazbotMcNastyrojoloco47, query window06:20
riverbirdwee_, Hoppi i'm not on kubuntu.  you may have better luck ..06:20
Billiardrojoloco47: if you dont even get the bios splash screen, i would use the warranty06:20
Hoppiwee_: Phonon is the KDE sound system thingy ma jig :)06:20
Hoppiwee_: as long as your sound is enabled in BIOS, it should pick it up and be automatically set up, then all you need to do is a quick tweak/check in Multimedia and you should be away06:21
riverbird!phonon06:21
wee_hoppi: ahh, im using kubuntu now. yes =) it seems that i have no input sound what so ever. but i can hear my mic through my speakers.. and i can mute it. put i cant find any input stuff on the system06:21
ShazbotMcNasty!hi06:22
ubottuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!06:22
Hoppiwee_: uno momento :)06:22
vedtry uninstalling pulseaudio... that worked for me06:22
BilliardHilikus: i dont know of a comparison, i would use ext3, some people have experienced data loss with ext406:22
Hoppiwee_: System Settings > Multimedia ... what are your sound devices?06:22
Hoppinooo don't uninstall Pulse!06:22
HoppiI like Pulse! ^_^06:22
intelhello there in the Xchat06:22
riverbirdHoppi, thx.06:22
zenlunaticintel, what it be like06:23
* alankila recommends avoiding both jfs and xfs. jfs because of bad personal experience with high fragmentation of files, and xfs because it's so slow with file deletion and metadata in general.06:23
intelI a m new to Ubuntu so please someone guide me06:23
wee_hoppi: audio output and audio capture06:23
Om3Ddragonpulse sucks for me I use alsa better06:23
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ShazbotMcNastyintel, what are you having problems with?06:23
Hoppiwee_: Oh, nothing that indicates drivers?06:24
Hoppiwee_: I have HDA Intel (ALC880 Analog)06:24
wee_hoppi: hda ati sb (alc889a digitl)06:24
intelwell I am really new to this environment so I am wanting to play .Dat video file how do I play it in Ubuntu06:24
intelit is ubuntu 9.0406:24
Hoppiwee_:  that's your one :)06:24
zenlunaticintel, never heard of that file type06:25
ShazbotMcNastyI've never used a .dat file before06:25
Xeon3Dintel, rename it to .mpg06:25
Hoppiwee_: ok erm, all I did was bung PulseAudio to the top of both categories and all the subcategories06:25
ShazbotMcNastyyou can try that...06:25
intelhow to that06:25
Hoppiwee_: And it's worked like a dream ever since :)06:25
Xeon3Dzenlunatic: .dat files are from VCD times.06:25
Hoppiwee_: With my Sound Blaster and my onboard :)06:25
ShazbotMcNastyright click, click 'rename' and type .mpg at the end06:25
dooglusmy cat walked over the keyboard while I was typing in pidgin06:25
wee_hoppi: your mic starts working ? ?=06:25
dooglusnow I've lost the text cursor in one conversation tab06:25
dooglusI can type, but can't use the left key to move back over the text06:26
dooglushow can I get it back?06:26
intelok I am trying it06:26
Hoppiwee_: Ah well I don't use mics, but all my speaker sound and program sounds, never an issue :)06:26
alankiladooglus: hmm... perhaps you are victim of SCIM... last time I hit that beast something like ctrl+space fixed it06:27
wee_hoppi: i dont have pulse audio under audio capture06:27
alankilabut I'm not sure, I always uninstall that thing out of pure horror06:27
dooglusalankila: thanks06:27
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Hoppiwee_: There is Playback/Recording with Pulse06:27
intelok I am trying it can we network with XP when we are in ubuntu environment06:27
dooglusalankila: ctrl+spc didn't fix it06:27
Hoppiwee_: I just stuck that at the top06:27
alankilaok. Try alt+space as well, and some other modifiers just in case they changed that.06:27
dooglusalankila: alt+spc pops up a menu06:28
nic3dooglus: is ctrol+space supposed to open new tab?06:28
alankilaHmm. I wonder what menu.06:28
dooglusnic3: in pidgin?06:28
wee_hoppi: i cant see any playback/recording with pulse06:28
alankilaoh. Window menu. Right.06:28
nic3in opera06:28
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alankilaI'm sorry, I do not know how to fix the problem. I only suspect SCIM because I remember how it used to turn text input impossible when you hit the scim activating combo06:28
alankilaand when it used to be ctrl+space, that was like all the time06:29
Hoppiwee_: hmm odd06:29
Hoppiwee_: maybe that's the problem06:29
intelShazb...... Can we get networked with xp when we are in Ubuntu06:29
dooglusnic3: I don't use opera06:29
Hoppiwee_: does normal sound work if you do the pulse trick though?06:29
airtonix!who alankila06:29
wee_hoppi: guess so. i have show advanced devices too06:29
airtonix!who | alankila06:29
ubottualankila: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)06:29
wee_hoppi: give me 10sec and i will check06:30
Hoppiwee_: People always say to avoid Pulse like the plague, but yeah so long as I'm on KDE Pulse has given me an easy ride :)06:30
dddemonAnyone one know of a good irc room for support with php programming questions06:30
cn28hdddemon, #php?06:30
intelwee.......... Can we get networked with xp when we are working in Ubuntu or alt06:30
dooglusalankila: I would have missed what you said if airtonix hadn't mentioned the !who think.  if you put dooglus at the start, the line goes yellow for me and I notice it06:30
Billiardintel: you want to access windows file shares?06:31
intelyup06:31
airtonixalankila, dooglus tab completion in xchat06:31
Billiardintel: yes you can06:31
intelhow06:31
airtonixintel, yes you can : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba06:31
dddemoncn28h everytime I try to get into that room it puts me in a overflow room06:31
ShazbotMcNastyintel, if you're trying to talk to someone, but don't want to type their whole name, if you're using xchat, type part of the name, then press TAB - and it will autocomplete the name06:32
cn28hdddemon, just worked fine for me06:32
Billiardintel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba#Browsing%20SMB%20shares06:32
wee_hoppi: no luck there. no output sound now06:33
cn28hdddemon, perhaps you need to identify with services?06:33
airtonixintel, this might also be helpful for you to understand the process : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4813148932443670673#06:33
intelBilliard, How to get it controlled06:33
Billiardintel: how to get what controlled?06:34
outer_spaceis there something in ubuntu that has a split window and goes to function definition text when you put the cursor on a function?06:34
dddemonmaybe I did do regserv nick identify06:34
intelI mean how to start sharing06:34
airtonixouter_space, you mean a class browser for code editors ?06:34
Billiardintel: after installing samba, you should be able to right click a directory, and choose share06:34
outer_spaceno classes in c06:35
spvensko_hi, what's the ls option to view file contents in "human" measures? ie Mb, Gb, etc.06:35
Hoppiwee_: that is strange ._.I mean maybe you could follow their advice and ditch Pulse, but twould be a shame as it must have SOME advantages! hehe :)06:35
outer_spacei have source-insight at work i want something like that at home06:35
alankilaspvensko_: man ls? ls -lh probably.06:35
wee_hoppi: just got a notice sound from irc =)06:35
spvensko_alankila, i'm using a distro that doesn't provide the man pages by default :(06:35
spemewhich memory use data is right? I have some trouble with the system monitor told me used 449MB ram, but the 'free' command told me I use 931MB ram.06:35
airtonixouter_space, i dont know source-insight, but gedit has a plugin for class browsing on current file : geany also has one, and aptana also does it06:35
spvensko_sorry, i just find the ubuntu chat to be a good resource for info06:36
Hoppiwee_: hooray!06:36
alankilaspvensko_: uninstall it, it must be horribly broken.06:36
Hoppiwee_: hehe06:36
Om3DdragonHoppi: alsa is way better for linux anyways pulse is windows06:36
wee_hoppi: hehe =)06:36
spvensko_alankila, it's not ubuntu, it's not supposed to come with man pages :(06:36
spvensko_*:)06:36
HoppiOm3Ddragon: PulseAudio isn't windows...06:36
airtonixspvensko_, this is a ubuntu support channel06:36
spvensko_i realize but where else are you going to find 1272 linux users in one spot?06:36
wee_hoppi: but it seems that i only ger sound in quassel irc now06:37
Hoppiwee_: hehehe :)  that truly is odd!06:37
outer_spaceso i should install gedit-plugins?06:37
airtonixspvensko_, you can also use this incredibly simple set of keywords to search google for man pages : man <insert command name here>06:37
alankilaspeme: the answer is complicated, thus there is no one right answer. I suggest using the 2nd line in free as your guide, the value i free column06:37
wee_hoppi: can u try to whisper me again. i started up pulse audio again06:37
Hoppiwee_: if it were me I'd give KDE a restart sometime06:37
Hoppiwee_: can't hurt if it's settings have been changed06:37
airtonixspvensko_, http://www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=man+ls06:38
spvensko_good point, i'll try that next tiem :) ty06:38
wee_hoppi: okay i will restart and be back and give a feedback =)06:38
outer_spacei installed gedit-plugins, what are they supposed to do?06:38
Hoppiwee_: okie dokie -  KDE 4 is worth it ^_^06:38
spemealankila: thanks06:38
riverbirdHoppi, wee_ any proprietary drivers involved all this?06:38
wee_hoppi: idd =)06:38
airtonixouter_space, the class browser isn't in the repo. you need to download it from the gnome site06:39
Hoppiriverbird: I assume he's using the standard drivers like I am06:39
airtonixouter_space, http://live.gnome.org/Gedit/Plugins06:39
wee_riverbird: dont know. i only use the nvidia driver and restricted extras06:39
alankilaspeme: one way to view the value in the 2nd row of "free" output is that it is the amount of memory linux could easily free if it wanted to. However, it's a fact that if it did so, all applications would probably grind to halt06:39
airtonixouter_space, http://www.stambouliote.de/projects/gedit_plugins.html06:39
outer_spacesource-insight is a lot simpler than a class browser06:40
riverbirdwee_, you have enables all the odd hardware?  you using 9.10?06:40
outer_spacesplit-pane, curser in function = function def in split pane06:40
wee_riverbird: i will restart and see if what hoppi told me will work =)  im using the newest 9.10 kubuntu yes06:40
riverbirdi have heard many issues w/ nvidia on 9.10 ..06:40
airtonixouter_space, well since you haven't provided either a screenshot or a page describing it i'm only assuming06:40
riverbirdwee fyi.  check forums for more06:40
outer_spaceworks with macro defs, typedefs, and var declarations06:41
wee_riverbird: nividia gpu. and sound issues ?06:41
Om3DdragonHoppi: PulseAudio runs under Microsoft Windows and POSIX-compliant systems like Linux. PulseAudio is free software released under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License (for the software library portion) and the GNU General Public License (for the sound server itself).06:41
aegnuddela-sleeping I will go...06:41
HoppiOm3Ddragon: ok06:42
aegnuddelbye06:42
* alankila thinks it's a lie that pulseaudio runs under win32. The only build of that ever seems to be from 2007. No pulseaudio clients exist, and only one half-working ESD thingy is there.06:42
airtonixouter_space, i'm pretty sure that this image shows what you are describing : http://www.stambouliote.de/projects/img/gedit-classbrowser-070122.png06:42
riverbirdwee_, no.  maybe the graphics card06:42
airtonixouter_space, good luck experimenting with all the text editors in the repositories and / or the gedit plugins at http://live.gnome.org/Gedit/Plugins06:43
ald85i installed the 64 bit flash and still not working06:44
ald85heeeeeeelp06:44
Billiardald85: how did you install it?06:44
kinja-sheepald85: How did you install Flash64?06:45
ald85uninstalled old flash06:45
ald85closed firefox06:45
kinja-sheepBilliard: Oh... I didn't see you. >_>06:45
ald85extracted the file06:45
EastDallasald85: not working at all?06:45
Billiardald85: keep it on one line06:45
intelThank you Friends...... I got it06:45
ald85installed it and autocopied the files to the firefox folders06:45
Om3Ddragonald85: flash media player or what flast are you talking about06:45
airtonix!enter | ald8506:45
ubottuald85: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!06:45
Billiardald85: does flash work at all now?06:46
skitzohi guys just installed ubuntu and am loving it so far just a bit hard to wrap my head around at first is it okay if i get a little help on a couple things?06:46
Jaikkuliwhat is a recommended swap partition size?06:46
kinja-sheepskitzo: Sure. Welcome! Ask away!06:46
ald85ok ok sorry, yes it works for youtube but when i go to a site where i can use mic or camera it doesnt work06:46
weehoppi: hmms, now its realy screwed up =) no sound what so ever06:46
Billiardald85: did you try disabling compiz?06:46
ald85dont even know whats that06:47
Billiardald85: the special effects06:47
excalibasplease help, I upgraded to karmic and now when I play movies the colours are changed06:47
ald85and how can i do that?06:47
skitzofirst off the most important thing i would like to do first is hide my windows 7 partition so it cant be messed with in anyway06:47
EastDallasald85: go to System>Preferences>appearance>Visual Effects tab> choose none06:48
Billiardald85: the problem is that you cant click on the flash settings box?06:48
ald85yes billiard06:48
Hoppiwee: for one thing, the kubuntu channel may be a better place to ask for help.. also I guess last resort is removing Pulse, or hunting down better drivers but I think you already have the right ones06:48
alankilaald85: and this is the problem that I saw when 64-bit firefox was embedding 32-bit flash through nspluginwrapper.06:48
alankilahence my suggestion to drop the 32-bit flash monster that stupid ubuntu people forced on us and instead get the working 64-bit alpha flash.06:49
Om3Ddragonald85: try to install ubuntu restricted extras everything work for me06:49
ald85ive installed the restricted extras06:49
skitzoanybody :)06:50
alankilaskitzo: err... comment out the line in fstab that mounts it?06:50
airtonixexcalibas, provide : ubuntu version, media player being used06:50
weehoppi: gees, kde freeks me out some times. it seems that things pops up in the menus rigth and left some times. i got some new pulse audio tools now. i will try them out some. thx for your help =)06:50
ald85ok i disabled the visual effects and still not working06:50
airtonixexcalibas, gnome or kde ?06:50
Om3Ddragon64 flash is just better then anything now06:51
EastDallasskitzo: do you have Ubuntu installed on a separate partition, or in a virtual partition?06:51
alankilaald85: are you sure you did manage to install the 64-bit flash? Did you really cause the browser to restart? Maybe you had some window or downloads screen still open.06:51
skitzoseperate06:51
excalibasairtonix, ubuntu 9.10 , totem, gnome06:51
indusOm3Ddragon: have you tried the latest 64 bit , dec 9 release06:51
skitzoseparate06:51
ald85no i closed everything06:51
rojoloco47Hey how does a Ubuntu server work ? is it only the black screen with some white text ?06:52
indusrojoloco47: yes06:52
excalibasairtonix, I have just upgraded, before it was ok06:52
indusrojoloco47: but you can install a gui06:52
airtonixexcalibas, inside totem , goto the edit menu > preferences06:52
alankilaald85: ok. Weird. The nonresponsive UI problem went away when I dropped the 32-bit flash for me. But before I did nothing ever worked, I couldn't click on any flash ui elements.06:52
rojoloco47how can I install a gui in that @ indus06:52
OddbioIs there any command like "startx" that can be used to 'stop x'? ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't work. Also "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" won't work as I am not using GDM, I do "startx" from the terminal to bring up my window manager06:52
EastDallasyou just need to do like alankila said and comment out the lines in fstab.  Do you know what he means?06:52
indusrojoloco47: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg06:52
airtonixexcalibas, display tab > move the hue slider around. (down the bottom)06:53
indus!server06:53
ubottuUbuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 8.04. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html - Use the #ubuntu-server channel for support06:53
damiananyone knows maybe how to stop ubuntu karmic asking for password to access ntfs drives?06:53
rojoloco47I had ubuntu server 9.10 installed on this system but there was nothing I could do so I just formatted it again06:53
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Billiarddamian: add an entry to your fstab for the partition06:53
indusrojoloco47: why did you install it?06:53
rojoloco47Ok thanks a lot ,I will try it now :) @ indus06:53
kinja-sheep!dontzap | Oddbio06:53
ubottuOddbio: To re-enable the Ctrl-Alt-Backspace combination that restarts your X server see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap06:53
rojoloco47I like to experience new things06:53
riverbirdJaikkuli, used to be 2x memory, but now 256k-2gb is fine06:53
kinja-sheepOddbio: See if that does the trick for you.06:53
rojoloco47@ indus06:53
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excalibasairtonix, it was at the bottom, but in the middle the color is fine, thanks a lot, I would never go there06:54
indusrojoloco47: server installs are meant to be without gui ,gui add extra security and stability/speed issues06:54
Jaikkuliriverbird: thanks06:54
damianthanks Billiard, i google from there on :)06:54
airtonixexcalibas, it just needs to be moved to get totem to listen to your preferences again after an update is all06:54
indusrojoloco47: ok if you want a gui fine, but you wont have any applications running on it06:54
Jaikkuliriverbird: why doesn't windows require swap partitions?06:54
alankilaJaikkuli: it grows a swap file dynamically.06:54
indusrojoloco47: ubuntu-desktop is the package you will need probably06:54
airtonixJaikkuli, it does, but it uses a swap file06:54
alankilaLinux doesn't need swap partitions either, really. Dynamic swap files exist also for linux. It's just not customary to use them.06:55
Oddbiokinja-sheep: thank you, that's exactly what I need06:55
rojoloco47can we setup DHCP, Active Director, DNS and WINS etc on Server or Desktop ? @ indus06:55
indusrojoloco47: please read the link06:55
Jaikkulialankila: ah alright :) thanks06:55
indusrojoloco47: yes sure06:55
kinja-sheepOddbio: You're welcome. :)06:55
indus!server | rojoloco4706:55
ubotturojoloco47: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server-specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is 8.04. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerFaq/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/index.html - Use the #ubuntu-server channel for support06:55
airtonixJaikkuli, http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8208-all-about-linux-swap-space06:55
alankilaJaikkuli: of course, I no longer use any swap files or partitions. All I do is enable ramzswap because it works just fine to extend RAM and makes recovery from memory hogs much faster than with disk-based swap06:55
riverbirdwee, good luck06:55
rojoloco47Ok I check it now thanks @ indus06:55
excalibasairtonix, that was cool06:56
ManDayWhy does network manager keep asking me to unlock the Keyring for it???06:56
rojoloco47Can I ask one common question here ,about this linux thing ?06:56
sri_how to check which ports are open in my system??? any command??06:56
alankilaJaikkuli: I especially shake head at people who make something like 10 GB swap partitions. Doing something like that only means that linux will trash a long, long time before it finally recovers from a memory hog.06:56
airtonixManDay, because it is a system wide setting06:56
ManDayEverytime I return from hibernation and it tries to reconnect06:56
Jaikkulican xp be told to acknowledge swap partitions?06:56
i_is_brokealankila, and how much ram do  you have installed(safe to say not to use swap)?06:56
airtonixJaikkuli, no06:56
BilliardJaikkuli: what would you do with it?06:56
alankilai_is_broke: I have 2 GB on the system.06:56
ManDayairtonix, it should remember the authorization tho, airtonix06:56
rojoloco47I want to know what OS i should learn ,for my better future JOB ?06:57
i_is_brokealankila, thank you thats what im getting ready to order06:57
chrispitzeris there any way I can tell which application is sending data out over my network?06:57
JaikkuliBilliard: ... swap? :)06:57
alankilai_is_broke: but I have experimented ramzswap for 1 GB, where it also works quite well, and I have a very weak system with only 128 MB which needs some 64 MB compcache + 64 MB real swap to run lxde comfortably.06:57
airtonixManDay, why ?06:57
kinja-sheeprojoloco47: You're new and does not have any experiences with linux. Start with Ubuntu or Fedora.06:57
Jaikkulialankila: 10 gig, damn that's overkill06:57
chrispitzerie - I think duplicity is doing a backup in the background - and I have 100kBps going out, but I'm not sure that duplicity is sending the data...06:57
indusrojoloco47: ubuntu is good, but later move to redhat and do some certificate the RHCE06:58
kinja-sheepchrispitzer: nethogs.06:58
indus!CERTIFICATION06:58
ManDayBecause it's annoying! Does your network manager ask you for a password for the d/k/r every time you connect to your WLAN? airtonix06:58
alankilai_is_broke: how much RAM you want/need is a matter of more than what I say. If 4 GB is cheap, by all means buy 4 GB. But I have found that 2 GB suffices well for all my tasks, involving java development that is traditionally very memory hungry activity.06:58
ManDaybecause mine at least did use to06:58
i_is_brokealankila, thats what im running now is lxde and i have 1280 meg of ram and i never get below 400 meg of ram and never touch the swap.06:58
riverbirdJaikkuli, ?? don't use it.06:58
airtonixManDay, i don't use wireless networking out of concern for security and quality of network connection06:58
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rojoloco47I am trying to understand ubuntu for last 3 months ,then I tried backtrack4 suse linux enterprise 11 and now I have redhat 5 enterprise with ubuntu 9.1006:58
Jaikkuliriverbird: dont use what?06:58
kinja-sheepManDay: It ask you for the key because you use AutoLogin.06:59
indusairtonix: wireless is secure as you want it to be06:59
ManDayairtonix, I do, because its indepensable06:59
airtonixindus, no06:59
rojoloco47Will fedora 12 help me to learn redhat ?06:59
ManDaykinja-sheep, can you elaborate that?06:59
indusif its not, the wi- fi group would like to hear from you06:59
alankilai_is_broke: yes... I'd say that > 1 GB you can pretty safely rely solely on ramzswap... Put another way, the system is pretty useless anyway if it starts to swap on disk. Ramzswap works the better the more memory you have.06:59
riverbirdJaikkuli, don't use windows ..  the kernel uses swap - no kernel in windows07:00
kinja-sheepManDay: When you boot up, do you type in user/password at GDM?07:00
i_is_brokealankila, is that ramzswap something in the repos or do i have to manually install it?07:00
ManDaykinja-sheep, yes07:00
Om3Ddragonwho wanna try the the new alpha 1 for ubuntu or installed tell me how is it to try I t07:01
alankilai_is_broke: it is installed but configured at 0 % usage (disabled). Enabling it is usually done by modifying /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf and setting some value to COMPCACHE_SIZE07:01
Jaikkuliriverbird: you're telling me not to use windows?07:01
alankilaI use "50 %" as the value. Then you need to rebuilt the initramfs images... was it update-initramfs -u -k all07:01
kinja-sheepManDay: http://lifehacker.com/software/ubuntu/stop-nm+applet-from-authenticating-with-the-keyring-276986.php07:01
i_is_brokeOm3Ddragon, depends on hardware right now if it will work or not..best bet is not to put it on a production box unless you vm it.07:01
miles95join/#rsbot07:01
kinja-sheepManDay: It is from 2007. I don't know if that still work. :X07:01
* alankila 's phone also runs with compcache07:02
indusairtonix: use the wpa207:02
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indusbut iam no expert so ill give you benefit of doubt07:02
ManDaykinja-sheep, the weird thing is that it only happens in a few cases. not everytime i boot/login07:02
zero-1Hi, everyone07:02
i_is_brokeOm3Ddragon, but that is offtopic in this channel please see ubuntu+1 ty07:02
zero-1how can I get gecko-sharp on my ubuntu box?07:03
ManDayairtonix, to my knowledge there is no way of cracking WPA2 yet, besides you can always add another layer of encryption, if you deem it unsafe07:03
zero-1I need it for a mono app that I'm working on07:03
riverbirdJaikkuli, no. no .  i am saying that I do not use windows07:03
kinja-sheepManDay: Gotcha. I'm trying this for my laptop.  Also, it is common practice to prevent any authorization tasks --- including editing date/time. Wireless = Network. Prevent guys from messing around with network settings.07:03
alankilazero-1: a wild guess: libmono-webbrowser0.5-cil ?07:03
alankilazero-1: if that's not it, then sorry for wasting your time, couldn't find anything more suitable07:04
Optimus55how do i update firefox to the latest version in karmic?07:04
ald85how can i restore ubuntu from the original settings07:04
i_is_brokealankila, thank you for the info..07:04
zero-1alakila nope that's not it I have it installed yet I cant find gecko-sharp dll and its no listed :( that package used to be named gecko-sharp, now I cant find it :(07:05
ald85sorry restore ubuntu to the original settings i ment07:05
isolat3dsh33pOptimus55: Download the latest version from Fx website07:05
alankilai_is_broke: I have found with testing on my very weak 128 MB system that 50 % compcache seems to give the best results. Incidentally, that is also the default setting for my phone independently arrived at by some other folks.07:05
riverbirdalankila, re:swap.  i thought the kernel relied on swap.  what's this ramzwap??07:05
Billiardald85: if you want to restore all your user settings, they are stored in your home directory in hidden subdirectories/files, just move them somewhere else07:06
alankilariverbird: kernel doesn't rely on swap. It's just one of the options that it benefits from when it needs to free more memory.07:06
tuxdcan someone help me install a tarball.gz?07:06
vedguys network manager doesnt connect with my 3g data card07:06
alankilariverbird: ramzswap aka compcache is ram-only swap device that consists of gzip-compressed memory pages.07:06
vedanyway to fix this?07:06
apocalypttuxd: what's the problem07:07
tuxdapocalypt: I'm not good a command line07:07
amitzwhat's the code name of 10.4? Decided yet?07:07
vedlucid lynx07:07
ved:D07:07
Om3Ddragonhttp://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/install-tarballs/07:07
amitzlex luthor :-p07:07
alankilariverbird: it is especially useful for low bandwidth, low memory systems that need a way to extend virtual memory. It takes a lot of time to write a memory page to disk-like device, at the order of 10 milliseconds usually. In contrast, it takes mere microseconds to compress a page and store it in RAM. So it's easily a net benefit.07:08
alankilaeven though the compressed pages themselves increase memory pressure.07:08
amitzit's cute. What page I should check for the latest announcement for the newest ubuntu code name?07:08
intelI need some extreme themes for ubuntu 9.04..... Someone HELP !!!07:08
tuxdapocalypt: I got to the dir  [cd dir] and did ./configure... when I try make it won't07:08
amitzs/check/subscribe to/07:08
riverbirdalankila, can you run w/o ramzwap and no swap? or do you need one or the other?07:08
alankilariverbird: linux is able to cope without swap.07:09
apocalypttuxd: did u read the README?07:09
amitzriverbird: indeed. No swap is recommended if your RAM memory is enough.07:09
kinja-sheepamitz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#Releases07:09
alankilain fact, I used to run without swap before ramzswap was invented. I noticed that swapping only meant that memory hogs tended to trash the system for very long periods, like 10 minutes, before finally getting killed07:09
riverbirdalankila, my misunderstanding then.  i habe 1.5 ram and 2 swp07:09
tuxdapocalypt:  it has an INSTALL file I have open07:09
alankilaso I disabled swap to hasten the period when linux realizes that a process it out of control and must be killed.07:10
amitzved: uh, you're not joking. Sorry :-)07:10
riverbirdalankila, amitz what is defined as 'enough?07:10
amitzkinja-sheep: oh, I thought there is an official source?07:10
alankilariverbird: but when ramzswap arrived, I realized it's better than no swap: it does extend virtual memory and it still keeps the benefit of no disk trashing.07:10
apocalypttuxd: u need to compile it. before ./configure , make, make install u need to install build-essentials07:10
intelis there any newer theme than mac4Lin so that it will make my ubuntu better in personality development07:11
kinja-sheepamitz: There are http://planet.ubuntu.com/ but that's more of a hybrid blog for all developers/contributors to blog in.07:11
amitzriverbird: no standard AFAIK. My rule of thumb is basically as long as I don't run out of memory.07:11
alankilariverbird: enough? enough swap? I think enough swap is generally 0k for systems which have gigabytes of physical RAM. That's my take on the issue. Swapping is the less useful the more real memory you have.07:11
riverbirdamitz, 1.5gb?07:11
ved<amitz> u mean theres no fix for that?07:11
i_is_brokealankila, i just thought that my swap partition is just sitting there doing nothing..but i didnt know if i could get by without it, as fast as programs are growing an using memory i just didnt want to delete it and have nothing.07:12
amitzriverbird: It really depends on your usual activity. I have 2GB and its more than enough. It seems I only use up to 1GB daily, unless I open IDE>07:12
i_is_brokealankila, but i will look into this.ty very much.07:12
riverbirdalankila, how to enable ramzwap?07:12
alankilai_is_broke: yes, it is a reasonable concern. But I believe that having swap doing nothing increases the risk of runaway processes causing bad behavior.07:12
amitzved: woah? I didn't say that. About there is no fix for that.07:12
tuxdapocalypt: when I was on the ubuntu official documentation pages, the link to 'build-essentials' said I had it installed (though I didn't do it manually myself).   I'm kind of a noob in terms of doing things from scratch.  If it's in the Synaptic, I'm all set, but I want to learn more than that.07:12
alankilariverbird: it needs change in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf, there's a line about COMPCACHE. I'd suggest a value like 50 %. Then rebuild initramfs images with "update-initrams -u -k all".07:13
amitzriverbird: I'm on debian but it should be similar enough.07:13
apocalypttuxd: in README there u can read if u need to compile the package or if there is a bash to install this package. at first u have to upack tar.gz with "sudo tar xvfz file.tar.gz"07:13
lilsnoopcan sed removed unwanted lines of text?07:14
riverbirdalankila, that seems all well beyond me.  a wiki page of how-to's??07:14
alankilai_is_broke: the tighest I run is a 32-bit linux on 1 GB laptop... with eclipse, java servlet container and firefox, email, gnome, etc open it really pushes to swap, often to the tune of 100-200 MB. Despite this, it's perfectly responsive system.07:14
alankilariverbird: I do not know of such.07:14
aquariusI have a jaunty server; "sudo do-release-upgrade" says "After your package information was updated the essential package 'ubuntu-minimal' can not be found anymore." There are LP bugs about this, but they suggest it's been fixed. What can I do to diagnose?07:14
petrociao07:14
riverbirdmaybe leave well enough alone ..07:15
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alankilariverbird: I view my tweak more as an advanced configuration setting anyway. It's very useful to me because as a developer I keep on making mistakes with code... and those sometimes cause infinite memory usage.07:15
apocalypttuxd: did u try to find that package in repository maybe u can install it through apt-get or aptitude from the repository07:15
kinja-sheepamitz: Perhaps http://feeds2.feedburner.com/canonical-news07:15
i_is_brokeriverbird i just copied and pasted everything to leafpad..lol07:16
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tuxdapocalypt: is that different from extracting?07:16
amitzkinja-sheep: hmm, that one should be updated enough. Thanks. This will be for future releases :-)07:16
Om3Ddragonhttp://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/install-tarballs/07:16
pawanhi07:16
Om3Ddragonuse that link07:17
i_is_brokealankila, i think there should be a how-to on this subject as a lot of people dont know about it.07:17
kinja-sheepamitz: And it does not blog too much, which is a good thing. :o07:17
riverbirdi_is_broke, did i break a rule?07:17
i_is_brokeriverbird, no i was just telling you what i did..lol07:17
apocalypttuxd: that's complete different because it doesn't use your tar.gz file.it will install a package from repository. which program u want to install?07:17
alankilasome people on this channel might tell me about how ulimit can fix runaway processes, but they are sadly telling a lie. Too many applications allocate lots of virtual RAM, and ulimit can limit that. But only a few ever actually materialize all the RAM they allocate. So ulimit proved unsatisfactory to me.07:17
amitzkinja-sheep: noted. Too many messages are overwhelming :-)07:17
i_is_brokeso i would have the way to change the settings.07:17
Polysicshello07:17
n00pguys I got these errors in ubuntu karmic when running apt-get upgrade: http://pastebin.org/6549707:17
riverbirdi_is_broke, why? is it relevant to something else?  just curious.  not familiar w/ leafpad07:18
i_is_brokeoh its like notepad07:18
n00pare they anything to worry about?07:18
Polysicsdo i need to remove the nvidia packages before installing the proprietary drivers?07:18
pawanpci sound card not giving sound07:18
pawanectiva07:18
n00pand how do I go about errm, fixing the errors that took place during that upgrade?07:18
riverbirdditto then.  i did too.  lol07:18
pawanev193807:18
Polysicsi have installed 4GB of RAM and need to use the PAE kernel, but the packaged drivers don't play nice with that07:18
sri_how to monitoring client system any application???07:18
BilliardPolysics: if you are using nvidia's installer from there site, i would uninstall first07:18
tuxdapocalypt:  wp tray 0.5.4  wallpaper changer07:18
i_is_brokeriverbird, i have a computer with only 512 ram in it and i thought i would use it on it.07:18
PolysicsBilliard, no, currently i have the apt nvidia drivers07:19
BilliardPolysics: but i would just use the nvidia drivers package from the package manager07:19
Om3Ddragonpawan: witch sound card you got there07:19
riverbirdalankila, thx.  i am a common user with simple needs.  i'll let enough be.  thx for the session07:19
amitzsri_: you mean how to monitor what application?07:19
PolysicsBilliard, apparently that does not play nice with the PAE kernel07:19
pawanev193807:19
pawanectiva07:19
Polysicsin fact, i am running in recovery mode right now07:19
alankilai_is_broke: I'd think that around 256 - 768 MB is the sweet spot for ramzswap. It really improves the behavior. Beyond 1 GB you don't really swap that much in practice, and with less than about 256 MB not even ramzswap can recover the system, although I would argue it still helps.07:19
sri_in Ubuntu is there any commands or application to monitoring a client???07:19
PolysicsBilliard, it's also apparently due to the fact this is an upgrade from 9.04, not a clean install07:20
Polysicsdoesn't matter THAT much as in a week i will have a new HD and reinstall, but hey :-)07:20
BilliardPolysics: ok, well i would uninstall first, if you plan on using nvidias installer07:20
Polysicsi want my 4Gb :-)07:20
apocalypttuxd: try in terminal "sudo aptitude install wallpaper-tray" it could be what u want07:20
PolysicsBilliard, ok, that's what i needed to know :-)07:20
amitzsri_: what do you mean by client? PCs in a network? What kind of monitoring you want?07:20
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Polysicsbtw, how do i know if my system would support 64 bit Ubuntu?07:23
tuxdapocalypt:  msg from terminal says "unable to lock administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"07:23
Polysicsand would running 64 bit have any special advantage?07:23
alankilaPolysics: depends on CPU, I guess. Which CPU do you have?07:23
Polysicsother than supporting more RAM07:23
apocalypttuxd: close synaptic or the package manager u have open in the X enviroment07:24
BilliardPolysics: cat /proc/cpuinfo  yes, some things are faster in 64bit07:24
Polysicsalankila, Core 2 Duo T5600 (1,83 GHz, 667 MHz FSB, 2MB L2 Cache)07:24
BilliardPolysics: that cpu is 64 bit capable07:24
kinja-sheepPolysics: Why wouldn't you take full advantage of your processors? It is useful in heavy CPU usage such as encoding DVDs, music editing, video editing, etc.07:24
xpotHelp: having a problem getting screen refresh on 9.10 upgrade.  Any suggestions how to fix this?07:25
alankilaPolysics: well, that is a 64-bit cpu as far as I know. I personally don't think the mythical improved performance from 64-bit code really materializes for many tasks. 64-bit executables are bigger and 64-bit pointers take double the RAM of 32-bit ones07:25
alankiladepending on workload it's a win or lose.07:25
Polysicsi do web development and firmware programming as a job07:25
pawannot getting sound from pci sound card07:25
sri_ya.. PCs in a network... What ports are open in their system..07:25
Polysicsthis laptop is not used for anything else07:25
Om3DdragonBilliard: everything is faster in 64 bit system07:25
Polysicssri_, you are looking for "nmap"07:26
pawanectiva ev193807:26
Polysicswill using 64 bit have some packages that don't work? i don't need much, aside from apache, php, ruby07:26
BilliardPolysics: ive found overall my system was faster using 64bit, also using more than 3.x GB in x86 mode with pae is like a hack07:26
alankilaOm3Ddragon: that is, sadly, a lie.07:26
xpotHelp: having a problem using vino getting screen refresh on 9.10 upgrade.  Any suggestions how to fix this? (2.6.31-17-generic #54-Ubuntu i686)07:26
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sri_how to use nmap - Polysics07:26
Polysicswell, i am getting my new HD later, guess i will just install 64bit 9.10 and take a look :-907:27
Om3DdragonPolysics: almost anything work now for 64 bit07:27
alankilaPolysics: there are some media codecs that are not available for 64 bits, I guess. Mostly you run trouble with non-free software. Some free software projects have bad support for 64-bit, though, like mono doesn't do all in 64-bit the 32-bit version can do, and java used to lack behind 32-bit version as well... and firefox doesn't have jit...07:27
Polysicssri_, nmap is a monster of a program, but you can take a look at http://nmap.org/book/man.html07:27
vitaminx101is anyone having trouble with firefox taking forever to look up webpages on 9.10?07:27
Seven_Six_TwoPolysics, I use 9.10 64 bit, and it runs faster for most things. I haven't had any issues so far.07:27
alankilaJava has improved its act on 64 bits, though, so I can no longer say that you have a disadvantage if you need java apps on 64-bit system.07:28
Polysicsalankila, all i need is mp3 support for web radios and Firefox to work07:28
n00pguys I got these errors in ubuntu karmic when running apt-get upgrade: http://pastebin.org/6549707:28
Polysicsi don't even go NEAR java, for some years now07:28
n00pare they anything to worry about?07:28
kinja-sheepvitaminx101: In the terminal, "firefox -safe-mode"07:28
alankilaPolysics: ok. Well, you will be hurt by slower javascript but mp3 certainly works.07:28
n00pand how do I go about errm, fixing the errors that took place during that upgrade?07:28
Om3Ddragonif you are a gamer you need to go for 64 bit07:28
Polysicsnever ever needed java after learning ruby :-)07:28
vitaminx101kinja-sheep: will that affect my browsing at all?07:28
PolysicsOm3Ddragon, gaming is something i most certainly do not do07:28
n00pPolysics: then you never learnt Java properly.07:29
su2873hi, i have been trying to remove hidden partition from grub but everytime I run grub-update2; the hidden partition is automatically added to grub.cfg eveytime.07:29
apocalypttuxd: u got it?07:29
kinja-sheepvitaminx101: Close the Firefox first. Run that command.  If the websites are loading fast for you, then it is one of the extensions.07:29
Polysicsn00p, i respectfully disagree, i did 2 years of professional development as head of a 4 person team :-)07:29
Polysicsnot counting the time before :-)07:29
iceroot_Om3Ddragon: there is not one game needing more then 4gb ram or generally a 64bit cpu07:29
n00pnot enough, Polysics.07:29
MikeChelenanyone know a fast document search utility like google desktop?07:29
Om3Ddragonyes there is07:29
n00pI did 3 months of C# and I can see those benefits of Java over Ruby.07:30
tuxdapocalypt: it seemed to do it's thing from terminal, but I'm not sure where to access the program now07:30
kinja-sheepMikeChelen: Gnome-Do is nice for that.07:30
Polysicsn00p, a language that requires more than 1 year to learn, is a bad language07:30
Om3Ddragonactually im a pro gamer07:30
iceroot_!ot | Om3Ddragon07:30
Polysicslanguages are means to an end, not an end07:30
ubottuOm3Ddragon: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!07:30
riverbirdPolysics, n00p not the java debate channel.  sorry07:30
Polysicsriverbird, absolutely true, sorry07:30
vitaminx101kinja-sheep: wow man worked like a charm!! thanks so much spent like 2 hours yesterday going through forums and people are having issues with it but almost every fix did not work for me. Thanks again :)07:30
MikeChelenkinja-sheep: gnome-do is good for quick app launches, does it support document indexing?07:30
n00pPolysics: C# took me less than a month to learn, Java is very similar. Ruby has a lot to learn, too. That's all I will say on the matter.07:30
apocalypttuxd: after install the tray should be on your panel07:30
kinja-sheepMikeChelen: In the plugins, you will find.07:31
aquariusMikeChelen, try running the Tracker Search Tool07:31
kinja-sheepvitaminx101: Now you'll have to toggle on one-by-one. Let me know which extension is it!07:31
tuxdapocalypt: that's what I thought...but I see date/time, volume, network connection, and screenlet mgr... no new icons07:32
Polysicsone slightly-OT thing: does Virtualbox run on 64bit? i need that07:32
apocalypttuxd: if it doesn't work try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=803103 or that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WallpaperTray07:32
Polysicsor any free virtual machine package07:32
iceroot_Polysics: yes07:32
fourquestion: how do i unlock the default keyring permanantly?07:32
kinja-sheepPolysics: Native 64bit? I don't know but yes we have VirtualBox.07:32
kinja-sheepfour: http://lifehacker.com/software/ubuntu/stop-nm+applet-from-authenticating-with-the-keyring-276986.php07:33
Polysicsi hate having to install XP just for IE8, but that's the way of the web developer :-)07:33
n00pPolysics: I don't see why it wouldn't. It's available opensource, so you could compile it if it's not available as an x64 package.07:33
iceroot_Polysics: with vt-x or amd-v its running 64bit systems too07:33
Seven_Six_TwoPolysics, yes, very well07:33
Polysicswow, thanks to all :-)07:33
vitaminx101kinja-sheep: hey sorry I'm really new to linux I'm not sure what you mean by extension? Do you mean firefox plugins?07:33
i_is_brokealankila, you still in here?07:33
MikeChelenkinja-sheep: ok thanks, will look for that one, any idea what the search backend is?07:33
alankilai_is_broke: yes.07:33
RxDxwhich do u guys think is better: Eclipse or NetBeans?07:33
i_is_brokehey can we take this to offtopic for a min?07:33
PolysicsRxDx, SCiTE :-P07:33
kinja-sheepPolysics: A simple code can fix that -- if(ie8); print "Don't be cruel. Use something nice like Firefox, Opera, or others" ;)07:33
iceroot_!best | RxDx07:34
ubottuRxDx: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.07:34
n00panyone know why these errors occur during apt-get upgrade? http://pastebin.org/6549707:34
kinja-sheepvitaminx101: Yes, I mean the Firefox Addons.07:34
iceroot_RxDx: also its offtopic, go to #java07:34
Polysicsdon't start an editor debate, it's worse than a language debate :-)07:34
vitaminx101kinja-sheep: ok ill see what i can do07:34
MikeChelenaquarius: does tracker support full text search of documents? gonna give it a try, thanks07:34
Polysicskinja-sheep, and IE8 isn't even THAT bad, tbh... IE6 was FAR worse, at least stuff in IE8 sorta works ou of the box07:34
n00pPolysics: one more note, if you want a language that has very little to learn, assembly or C.07:34
kinja-sheepPolysics: People are still using IE4 and IE5! :<07:35
n00pheh, IE4...07:35
Polysicsluckily i get to develop for IE8 now... i convinced my two main clients that IE6 was going out of support :-)07:36
EastDallasI remember running ie in Red Hat :(07:36
iceroot_!ot | Polysics07:37
ubottuPolysics: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!07:37
n00phow is Internet Explorer any more on topic than Java, C# and Ruby?07:37
Om3DdragoniE8 wow07:37
dandamani have a pretty big problem here, i noticed my processor was always in 50% use, so i closed all my programs that i had running, it stayed at 50% so i restarted, i dont have any programs on startup and the system monitor said 50% again, now even with pidgin only open its still 50%07:37
Polysicsdandaman, which CPU?07:37
dandamanmy processor is usually sitting at 0-5% unless i'm doing something big07:37
aquariusMikeChelen, yep, it does support that. Applications > Accessories > Tracker Search Tool. You may need to turn on indexing if it's not already turned on (it is on by default, I believe): System > Preferences > Search and Indexing07:37
iceroot_dandaman: use top to see what app is using 50%07:37
Seven_Six_Twodandaman, what process?07:38
dandamancpu1=9-20% hovering, cpu2=100% all the time07:38
dandamani sorted processes by cpu07:38
dandamanonly the system monitor is using 207:38
Polysicsi'm sorry for not knowgin this, but how do i kill the X server to install the NVidia package?07:38
ironbeeanyone tried to install a Xerox FreeFlow on ubuntu?07:38
indusdandaman: how to07:38
MikeChelendandaman: try top or htop in console07:38
iceroot_!enter | dandaman07:38
ubottudandaman: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!07:38
indusPolysics: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop07:38
aquariusdandaman, System > Administration > System Monitor should be helpful07:38
Polysicsok, back later then :-)07:38
indusk07:39
Seven_Six_Twoindus, does init 2 still work?07:39
dandamanaquarius: yeah i'm looking at that07:39
dandamannothing is listed as using that many resources07:39
Seven_Six_Twoor maybe sudo init 207:39
fourhow can i stop ubuntu-one from asking for a password everytime i login?07:39
dandamani'm afraid my 2nd cpu is gonna burn out, its constantly sitting at 100%07:39
indusSeven_Six_Two: probably not07:39
skitzodidn't work buddy! :(07:39
dandamanoh lp07:40
apocalyptfour: do u use ubuntu-one?07:40
m0losIs it possible to throttle one individual torrent using rtorrent?07:40
dandamantop says lp is using 100%07:40
iceroot_dandaman: again, use top and tell us the task which is using so much cpu07:40
dandamanwhat is lp?07:40
fourapocalypt, no07:40
Seven_Six_Twoda07:40
fourapocalypt, not at the moment...shoudl i?07:40
apocalyptfour: deinstall ubuntu-one07:40
Seven_Six_Twodandaman, printing07:40
rand_can anyone tell me where to report bugs for an lts release?07:40
aquariusfour, Ubuntu One shouldn't ask for a password every time you log in -- is it starting the web browser every time?07:40
indusSeven_Six_Two: doesnt ,dont think it worked for some time07:40
kinja-sheepm0los: Sure. #rtorrent for better support.07:40
dandamanhow do i make it stop :(07:40
iceroot_m0los: yes, read the manpage for that, dont know the command but using it too07:40
iceroot_dandaman: q07:40
fouraquarius, no i dont believe so, should i logout and check?07:40
m0loskinja-sheep: ok ty07:40
m0losiceroot_: ty07:40
indusrand_: ubuntu-bug -p <packagename>07:40
Seven_Six_Twodandaman, sudo killall lp07:41
dandamanjut cancelled my print jobs07:41
dandamanproblem solved07:41
aquariusfour, ah, sorry, you said "how can i stop ubuntu-one from asking for a password everytime i login" -- how is it asking for that password?07:41
Seven_Six_Twodandaman, lol. nice07:41
rand_well its a kernel bug anyways but concernes any user with 8.04 with ext307:41
dandamanTHANKS TEAM, YOU GUYS RAWK07:41
* Xeon3D brb07:41
fouraquarius, a popup window, something to do with  python07:41
indusSeven_Six_Two: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InitScriptList07:42
n00perrors from sudo apt-get upgrade: http://pastebin.org/65497 anyone know anything about this>07:42
aquariusfour, ah, right. Does that window have "Allow Once" and "Allow Always" buttons on it?07:42
fouraquarius, no id ont think so07:42
fouraquarius, no is my final answer :)07:43
aquariusfour, OK...can you make this happen by logging out and logging in again, so you can tell me what the window says?07:43
rand_i got a nasty problem with the 8.04 lts and ext3 root partition07:44
phixLjL-Temp!!!!11107:44
rand_i dont know if it was reported or not but people should be warned or something07:44
Seven_Six_Twoindus, that's strange. I don't think I like that behaviour. But since I don't use it, I guess I shouldn't care.07:44
n00pmay I suggest a channel #ubuntu-support with a queue for anyone who requires support?07:44
apocalyptn00p: did u try "sudo apt-get -f install"07:45
n00pthanks apocalypt will try now07:45
aquariusfour, hey, did you get the window asking for your password again?07:45
n00pinstall, apocalypt?07:46
apocalyptn00p: sudo apt-get -f install07:46
n00phmm07:47
apocalyptn00p: nothing happens?07:47
n00pthe following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: libdns50 binutils-static07:47
Flanneln00p: Please don't suggest it, no.07:48
n00pnothing about python though07:48
apocalyptn00p: try apt-get update again07:48
Polysicsback, driver installed, still 3GB of RAM07:48
Polysicsi am running the PAE kernel, do i need to enable something else somewhere?07:49
n00pit was on upgrade, not update07:49
n00pand yeh, tried both... no errors, but no update there either07:49
FlannelPolysics: Does your BIOS/POST see all of it?07:49
kr_217i have setup openldap in ubuntu 9.04.Now i want to add password policy into it.How can do that?.It has created slapd.d folder and not slapd.conf file07:49
aquariusfour, any luck getting the password window again? :)07:49
PolysicsFlannel, i'll go check07:50
kr_217hello anybody07:50
apocalyptif u tried update and upgrade again without errors there shouldn't be a problem07:50
n00pok thanks :) just wanted to make sure07:50
apocalyptn00p: np :)07:50
coz_kr_217,   I may not be able to help...and if no one else can you might want to thry  ##linux channel ...they may be able get you going :)07:51
kr_217coz_: ok07:51
apocalypt!ldap | kr_21707:52
ubottukr_217: LDAP is the Lightweight Directory Access Protocol. For more information, installation instructions and getting clients to authenticate via LDAP see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenLDAPServer07:52
Seven_Six_Twokr_217, ||  http://www.openldap.org/software/man.cgi?query=slapo-ppolicy&apropos=0&sektion=5&manpath=OpenLDAP+2.3-Release&format=html07:53
songerwhat i most to install to get a3d on my windows07:53
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rcscompCan someone tell me how to get ext4 support in grub2?  I tried "insmod ext4" from the command line in grub but get an error message indicating the file is not found.07:54
kr_217Seven_Six_Two: i am talking about /etc/ldap/slapd.d and not /etc/ldap/slapd.conf07:54
Polysicsback07:55
PolysicsBIOS does see 4096 MB of RAM07:55
FlannelPolysics: Which kernel are you using?07:55
FlannelPolysics: (uname -a)07:55
PolysicsLinux luca-laptop 2.6.31-16-generic-pae #53-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 8 05:20:21 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux07:56
aquariussonger, A3D == 3D stereo audio technology?07:56
apocalyptrcscomp: on karmic ?07:56
rcscompapocalypt: yes07:56
FlannelPolysics: Hmmm, well, you've got the PAE kernel alright.  I don't know what to tell you.07:56
BilliardPolysics: is there a reason you dont want to use the 64 bit kernel?07:56
apocalyptrcscomp: ext4 is the standard filesystem on karmic. it is supported07:56
songereffects just for windows like fire07:56
songerno the cube07:57
Mix_Userhuh..?07:57
PolysicsBilliard, didn't want to reinstall as i am getting a new HD soon07:57
apocalyptsonger: try to install fusion-icon and compizconfig-settings-manager07:58
aquariussonger, ah, OK. In Ubuntu Software Center, install "Advanced Desktop Effects Settings (ccsm)"07:58
rcscompapocalypt: this is to try and get slackware dual booting.  The problem is that the slackware menu item doesn't show up in the grub menu.07:58
Polysicswas just devoting some free time to see if i could get this kernel to see 4GB, but if not, i'll justsolve it with install later07:58
VincentDoes anyone have an idea http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8507786#post8507786 or in words HP 2133 still not showing wireless interface i tried ndiswrapper jockey ,....  running Windows Server with Xfce4 Xfce4-goodies interface07:58
apocalyptrcscomp: did u try update-grub207:58
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kr_217Just tell me guys how can insert ppolicy.schema in ldap for ubuntu 9.0407:58
rcscompapocalypt: I did, with a custom entry for Slackware07:59
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rcscompapocalypt: it didn't seem to pick it up on its own07:59
Mix_User.................................................07:59
rcscompapocalypt: both ubuntu and slackware are running LVM if that matters.08:00
aquariussonger, and then, when it's installed, run System > Preferences > CompizConfig Settings Manager to configure all the cool effects :)08:00
songeraquarius: also i would like to install 3d stereo audio technology. can i do it?08:00
apocalyptrcscomp: maybe i don't no. i've never worked with LVM. is your slackware entry under /etc/grub.d/ ?08:01
aquariussonger, I don't know very much about audio stuff, I'm afraid; my laptop only has two speakers! Do you have lots of speakers attached to your computer?08:01
ShazbotMcNastywhat's the equivalent to system>preferences>sessions, in 9.04 ?08:01
songeri just want the effects for the windows like rain fireetc08:01
Mix_User........................................08:01
rcscompapocalypt: yes, and when I "update-grub" it gets copied correctly to the /boot/grub/grub.conf file08:02
Mix_User.................................................................................................08:02
Mix_User....................................................................08:02
FlannelMix_User: How can we help you?08:02
FloodBot3Mix_User: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.08:02
songeraquarius? yes i do08:02
apocalyptrcscomp: why LVM u told u were trying to make ext4 runable08:02
ShazbotMcNastySimple question. What's the equivalent to system>preferences>sessions, in 9.04?08:02
riverbirdGuest64129, do you know what chip your wifi uses?08:02
Seven_Six_Twosonger, just turn those effects on then. with ccsm. and the audio depends on your sound card.08:03
aquariussonger, cool! Wish I did. Anyway, someone may be able to help more with speaker handling; I believe that the audio system ("pulseaudio") can already handle this sort of 3d sound work, but I don't know very much about it. Try right-clicking on the volume icon in the top bar and selecting Sound Preferences and see if there's anything there that's relevant.08:03
apocalyptrcscomp: maybe your settings for the slackware partition is corrupt08:04
rcscompapocalypt: well, the ubuntu grub entries had "insmod ext2".  I knew I was using ext4 in slackware, so I changed it to "insmod ext4".  However, that command fails.  I guess, I could just change it back and try that.08:04
rcscompapocalypt: well, I translated from the slackware lilo entries, the only thing different was the "insmod ext4".  I guess, I can try removing that and just see what happens, that might be a good first start.  brb.  Thanks for the help.08:05
djyoxI'm a newb to linux, I want to install a program, AtomicParsley, I have the program on my desktop, and can run it from there, is there a way to install it so I can just type in the terminal, sudo atomicparsley and make it work?08:05
djyoxOh and if you need it, I have ubuntu 9.0408:06
songeraquarius: i already installed all the staff that i need for the effects08:06
Seven_Six_TwoGuest64129, can you paste   sudo ifconfig -a    and    sudo iwconfig -a08:06
riverbirdvincent, hello?08:06
ntemishi08:06
ntemisafter upgrade to 9.10 my alsa is broken08:06
ntemishow i re install alsa to fix this?08:06
ntemiscurrently i have no sound08:07
aquariusdjyox, atomicparsley is available direct from Ubuntu in 9.10; you can install it from the command line with "sudo apt-get install atomicparsley", and then run it with "atomicparsley"08:07
ntemismy audio is realtek hd08:07
Seven_Six_Twontemis, and had no luck changing your sound server settings or playing with all of the volume controls?08:08
aquariusdjyox, if something's available directly from Ubuntu, it's always best to install it that way rather than downloading it yourself from their website; that way you get automatic updates for it, and the install process is easier :)08:08
djyoxaquarius, I'm a little worrried about installing 9.10, last time we did that something didn't unstall correctly, and I had to reinstall 9.04. I'm not on a very good connection, I am deployed to afghanistan and the connection is via satillite08:08
aquariusdjyox, atomicparsley is available in 9.04 as well (sorry, I forgot to ask what you're running!)08:09
djyoxif I did upgrade to 9.10, is there a way I could easily get back to 9.04, with out having to reinstall?08:09
ntemisSeven_Six_Two: no08:09
djyoxOh, I didn't see it?08:09
Jeje_h08:09
Jeje_hi08:09
Jeje_can I have help please? http://tinyurl.com/ycu3msw08:10
aquariusdjyox, yes -- you should be able to find it in System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager (it's an advanced program, so it's not shown in Add/Remove Programs)08:10
Seven_Six_Two!kick Jeje08:10
Seven_Six_Two!kick Jeje_08:10
djyoxI thought I had looked in there for it, but maybe it was for something else...08:11
djyoxlet me check08:11
Jeje_what >< ?08:11
aquariusdjyox, and you may need to enable "all open-source applications" rather than just "Canonical-supported applications" to see it (this is sometimes called "enabling the universe repository")08:11
Seven_Six_TwoJeje_, lol. I don't want to see your rotten toenail.08:12
djyoxaquarius, where might I find that at?08:12
Jeje_Seven_Six_Two, can you imagine sucking it? =)08:12
Seven_Six_TwoJeje_, unless you're going to install Ubuntu NBR on it08:12
Jeje_on my toenail?08:13
Seven_Six_TwoJeje_, yes. otherwise it's offensively off-topic.08:13
djyoxMy bad, I already have it installed. (Like I said, I'm a newb) I forgot that linux is case sensitive08:14
aquariusdjyox, in Add/Remove Applications, the "Show" menu should say "All available applications"08:14
aquariusdjyox, ah, ok! cool; glad you got it sorted :-)08:14
djyoxThanks for your help!08:14
djyoxOne other quick question on setting up a file server08:14
djyoxWhat distro would be the best for a box that is only going to be used as a file server?08:15
aquariusdjyox, well, I like Ubuntu Server, myself. :)08:15
Yonni_Poohello, can anyone suggest why I might not get Dell XPS. ubuntu's wiki "LaptopTesting" seems to have good results for the model, however I always hear such bad things about Nvidia (being closed source) - yet this laptop doesn't seem to cause anyone problems (and it uses nvidia).. can anyone help me get off the fence?08:15
zcat[1]djyox:  I would say debian or centos, but that may be offtopic here08:16
zcat[1]not that there's much difference between ubuntu server and debian08:16
djyoxWell, that was my plan was ubuntu server08:17
Yonni_Pooanyone on nvidia? or laptops?08:17
djyoxI do plan on using smoothwall on an old computer or maybe server box for my firewall/router08:17
zcat[1]I think debian has a longer support cycle...08:17
Yonni_PooI usually can't even read fast enough to keep up with this channel, and its *dead* right now. what's going on ??08:18
zcat[1]only 1300 users? Did we have a DoS or something?08:18
zcat[1]or is everyone out christmas shopping?08:19
goddardI am having a problem with totem and the you tube plugin I want to watch my videos but it often gives me an error "Automount failed: mountpoint for org.gtk.vfs.mountpoint.http already running"  I also would like to be able to use playlist options any ideas?08:19
Yonni_Poowell, since i'm not getting help...:08:19
chibzuitwd0 has 488397168 sectors but if i fdisk wd0, the mbr partition created will be only 488392002 sectors and if i add the first 63 sectors that hold the mbr, the total is 488392065. altough is not verry important, where are the remaining 5103 sectors going?08:19
Yonni_Poodjyox, I suggest slackware - keep it simple.08:19
chibzuits/wd0/sda08:20
zcat[1]lol slackware...08:20
djyoxslackware for the file server?08:20
Yonni_Poofor anything.08:20
Yonni_Pooanything you don't want breaking. use slackware and you'll know *exactly* what the heck is going on *all* the time.08:20
Seven_Six_TwoYonni_Poo, I use nvidia on a laptop, and it works very well for me08:21
Yonni_Pooi mean, you can do the same with any distro really, but... slackware - just my 2 cents08:21
FollyHey guys08:21
Sachothat makes little sense, do you mean slackware writes more logs?08:21
zcat[1]'because that's the only way to get slackware to do anything' -- you basically have to know every little detail to get anything working08:21
Yonni_PooSeven_Six_Two: thank you :) did you do a lot of research before getting your laptop for ubuntu? or just put ubuntu on an existing laptop?08:22
djyoxI'll have to look into slackware08:22
aquariusYonni_Poo, I've got a Dell XPS (the M1330), with the Intel graphics chips, and it's excellent. The issue with nvidia is not that the drivers are a problem themselves, it's that it's much harder for the Ubuntu community to help with problems because the nVidia drivers are closed-source08:22
djyoxI just plan to have my fileserver running on a headless box, set it and forget it kinda deal08:22
box9500GT,9600GSO,8800GT,they are all ok08:23
Seven_Six_TwoI have the same release on my desktop, and that has nvidia 6800gtoc, 2 monitors and svideo work just fine08:23
zcat[1]I started out on slackware a looong time ago. I recently took another look at it and it hasn't changed a bit, slackware is just as arcane and difficule as it was back in 199408:23
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Yonni_Poosacho I mean, installing slackware you'll be a part of every step of every step of dependency-ness... so you'll be very aware what broke what, when you installed what, and when.08:23
SachoI managed to install the latest nvidia drivers with only a minor headache08:23
Yonni_Pooon second though, take zcat[1]'s advice, 1994 definitely craps on my experience08:23
zcat[1]'package management is for the weak' ;)08:24
Seven_Six_TwoI learned a lot from using slackware.08:24
Sachoforced learning != fun08:24
aquariusYonni_Poo, if you don't *have* any problems with the nVidia drivers then you'll be fine :)08:24
zcat[1]I do admit, you will learn a LOT running slackware..08:24
i_is_brokepackage management is for us lazys who dont like to type..lol08:24
Jeje_wtf why do i get this error? http://tinyurl.com/yasscv408:25
Yonni_Pooi_is_broke: actually, computers are for us lazys who don't like to add stuff up by hand and pencil08:25
A[D]minSHi i'm a bit confused ..i'm trying to check my memory but i can't understand this08:25
Sachowasn't aware you could do addition as fast as a computer08:25
A[D]minS total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached08:25
A[D]minSMem:          3016       2917         98          0        323       215108:25
ShazbotMcNastysomeone kick Jeje_08:25
i_is_brokeYonni_Poo, no thats a calculator08:25
djyoxactually, sense we are talking about nvidia cards, I am rocking out on a 8200m and my driver in linux doesn't look near as good as windows does08:25
ShazbotMcNastythat is a disgusting photo08:25
Seven_Six_TwoAmaranth, please make Jeje_  stop\08:25
FollyJeje_:  http://tinyurl.com/ycu3msw -- Hmm, weird. Did you click on the foot in the Gnome menu and try going into Computer?08:25
A[D]minSit says from 3G ram ..free 98M08:25
A[D]minSbut cached 2151M08:25
zcat[1]!ops | Jeje_08:25
ubottuJeje_: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) -  elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!08:25
djyox(don't mean to get too many of the same topic going, but figured I would toss that out there)08:25
A[D]minSwhat dose it mean?08:25
Jeje_dont you like it ShazbotMcNasty?08:26
ShazbotMcNastyno.08:26
Jeje_ok sorry :/08:26
ShazbotMcNastyusually i'd probably think it's funny.08:26
Sachoowned by tinyurl preview08:26
Sacho^_^08:26
ShazbotMcNastyBut not today.08:26
Seven_Six_TwoA[D]minS, means linux is caching it. it's all good08:26
Jeje_I tought it was funny lol08:26
i_is_broke!ops | Jeje_ spamming08:26
FollyShazbotMcNasty: It's teh lolz.08:26
ubottuJeje_ spamming: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) -  elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!08:26
Jeje_im not spamming :s08:26
FollyI laughed out loud when I clicked on it :)08:26
Yonni_Pooaquarius: intel graphics ? maybe i'm misunderstanding hardware.... i thought the xps is only with nvidia - and that's your graphics chipset?08:26
A[D]minSSeven_Six_Two how i can control the caching ?08:27
Jeje_do you know what does mean spam oO ?08:27
FollyI wish I could be sucking on it right now. :(08:27
zcat[1]it is neither funny or on topic08:27
* Folly goes back to watching Madonna videos. :D08:27
Sachosince the channel isn't very active atm, there's no reason to freak out :P08:27
Seven_Six_TwoA[D]minS, not sure. not sure why you'd want to either, but I'll leave that up to you08:27
FollyAnyway, how is tablet support in Ubuntu OFTB?08:27
Folly*out of the box08:27
aquariusYonni_Poo, it depends which XPS model you're looking at :) Some come with an nVidia graphics chipset, some with Intel, some with a choice of either. Which one are you looking for?08:28
Yonni_Pooi_is_broke: well, you could break all this down to math problems (everything the computer does... almost), so that's what i mean by pencil/paper-replacement08:28
Seven_Six_TwoFolly, graphics tablet? or tablet pc?08:29
Yonni_Pooaquarius: i'm looking for anything that'll be the easiest linux-out of the box. lol08:29
FollyAnyone know why the Gnome logo isn't working? http://tinyurl.com/ycu3msw08:29
zcat[1]have been having a good run lately, last three laptops I've installed EVERYTHING worked; 3d graphics, wireless, webcam...08:29
Yonni_Pooi have up to 1,388 to spend (that's what I"m sending this system76 laptop back for)08:30
zcat[1]right off the live CD08:30
aquariusYonni_Poo, then I'd recommend you buy a laptop with Ubuntu installed on it, rather than installing it yourself. (You had a system76 and didn't like it?)08:30
zcat[1]karmic seems to support a bit more stuff than jaunty too.. one of these laptops had no wired lan under jaunty.08:30
Seven_Six_TwoI installed on an HP G60 and all hardware worked out of box08:31
Yonni_Pooaquarius: well, Dell do sell the 9.04, but a.) its an nVidia b.) I *really* prefer 2 things: 3yr. warranties & 4gb ram (for virtual machine stuff); those two specs push it right over the edge into like.. $140008:31
zcat[1]owner was not happy at the thought of not having theintarweb so opted to continue using windows and wait for karmic.08:31
chibzuitsda has 488397168 sectors but if i fdisk sda, the largest partition created will be only 488392002 sectors and if i add the first 63 sectors that hold the mbr, the total is 488392065. where are the remaining 5103 sectors going?08:32
Follyhttp://tinyurl.com/ycu3msw Help :(08:32
aquariusYonni_Poo, ah, right, yeah; I paid about that for mine, but I use my laptop 18 hours a day so I need it a lot ;)08:32
Yonni_Pooaquarius: are you recommending any laptop with Ubuntu installed on it? because all I can ever find are sketchy websites (other than sytem76) .. and like.. the three machines Dell sells08:32
FollyWait, wrong URL, sorry.08:32
djyoxOh, how about this for a question. I would like to upgrade to firefox 3.5 in ubuntu 9.04, under synaptic, I first have to unintstall 3.0, then install 3.5 correct? Now does anyone know what I should select for removal for 3.0, and then for install of 3.5?08:32
FollyWhat do you guys think of this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-7NXibn5ms&feature=related08:32
mishok13i'm having troubles with updating from 9.04 to 9.10, almost everything went fine, but there's a problem with binfmt package (i guess)08:32
mishok13output is here http://paste.pocoo.org/show/157331/08:32
echotoneI run a NVIDIA geforce 9500gt. Does anybody know why after a reboot my computer looks great but then after maybe 10 minutes (sometimes more/less) it looks like an old tv with bad reception? The windows freeze, my mouse freezes, it resets my desktop effects its fuzzy all over. and a dialog box pops up to tell me that the screen is not composited. please restart compize...etc08:32
iceroot_djyox: you can use 3.0 and 3.5 at the same time08:32
aquariusYonni_Poo, I personally recommend the Dell ones, myself, but I know they're not cheap. Are you in the US?08:32
zcat[1]I was very surprised to find a laptop where webcam and wireless and 3d worked but wired network did not, btw...08:32
aquariusdjyox, you can install 3.5 without uninstalling 3.008:33
mishok13any way to reinstall/fix binfmt?08:33
iceroot_djyox: ff3.5 has a different name then firefox, its called shiretoko08:33
iceroot_mishok13: please use one line for a question, its hard to read over a few lines (when others are posting something between)08:33
Yonni_Pooyeah, I really have no preference, I just don't want it to be some tiny-teeny company (like system76).08:33
Yonni_Pooaquarius: *yeah, in US08:33
zcat[1]get a lemote!!08:34
iceroot_djyox: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.508:34
Yonni_Poozcat[1]: lol, like RMS?08:34
djyoxok, let me try that08:34
chibzuitsda has 488397168 sectors but if i fdisk sda, the largest partition created will be only 488392002 sectors and if i add the first 63 sectors that hold the mbr, the total is 488392065. where are the remaining 5103 sectors going?08:34
zcat[1]well, you know the support for 'free software' will be excellent...08:34
mishok13iceroot_, sorry, but the problem description is on paste.pocoo.org anyway :)08:34
SkyblaydeaH08:35
SkyblaydeThank GoD!08:35
zcat[1]lenovo seem pretty good for linux compatability too08:35
aquariusYonni_Poo, I'm in the UK, where there is Even Less Choice :) Some US people may be able to advise you about US firms. (In general, Ubuntu laptops will be towards the higher price end of the range, because they contain decent robust hardware rather than rather shoddy cheap windows-only hardware, though.)08:35
echotoneThere are 1300 people here. has anybody had a similar problem?08:35
Seven_Six_Twochibzuit, formatting information?08:35
djyoxok, so 3.5 is now installed08:35
SkyblaydeI just made a major decision08:35
iceroot_mishok13: using eeepc here which a small display and i dont scroll the whole channel to see if someone was posting additional infos before08:35
chibzuitSeven_Six_Two, yes08:35
djyoxHow do I go about using 3.5 rather than 3.0?08:35
djyox(i'm a noob)08:35
zcat[1]forget trying to find a laptop with Linux preinstalled, just take a live CD along and insist on trying them out08:35
Yonni_Poozcat[1]:  sounds good actually ( I think I just brushed the idea off, because I figured if RMS had it, it was some obscure unobtainable product) - http://www.lemote.com/english/yeeloong.html looks pretty limited of a site08:35
SkyblaydeI decided to switch over to linux08:36
SkyblaydeNew to it08:36
iceroot_djyox: first try if you like ff3.508:36
SkyblaydeLovin it08:36
Skyblaydebut could use some help08:36
SkyblaydeI think i mauled my splash08:36
djyoxWhats the easiest way to start 3.5?08:36
iceroot_!ask | Skyblayde08:36
ubottuSkyblayde: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)08:36
DaDa|UrkaSkyblayde: Gratz! :D08:36
iceroot_djyox: in terminal  firefox-3.5  or use applicaions-internet-shiretoko08:36
djyox(i'm rocking out 3.5 on my windows, so I'm guessing if its the same, I'll like it)08:36
SkyblaydeDada :) ty08:36
SkyblaydeUrka*08:37
chibzuitSeven_Six_Two, any idea?08:37
iceroot_!who | djyox08:37
ubottudjyox: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)08:37
SkyblaydeI think i need to smoke a bowl08:37
Yonni_Poozcat[1]: actually, livecd is no problem, I just want go make sure everything works, and I hear (or read in a forum) you'll get kicked out of a BestBuy for booting there machines on USBs, lol08:37
Skyblaydethen come back in here and learn some more08:37
MaSSaSLaYeRcan anyone help me install wireless on hp 213308:37
iceroot_Skyblayde: and please stay ontopic here08:37
iceroot_!wifi | MaSSaSLaYeR08:37
ubottuMaSSaSLaYeR: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs08:37
A[D]minSSeven_Six_Two: may i know what is the real meaning of Cached which appears in the output of free08:37
zcat[1]Yonni_Poo:  so obviously best buy don't need your custom...08:38
SkyblaydeI've practically had to learn linux overnight. I need help with my splash. Anyone willing to give a hand?08:38
SkyblaydeI think I mauled it :(08:38
MaSSaSLaYeRwell i tried a lot like ndiswrapper en jockey08:38
iceroot_Skyblayde: again, ask your question in one line and stay on topic08:38
MaSSaSLaYeRbut there still isn't an interface08:38
djyoxAhh I see, yeah, 3.5 is what I want to be running. Would it be better to just leave 3.0 on? That way I always have a backup if I start messing around with god knows what (I have to break stuff to figure out how it works it seems)08:38
Yonni_Poozcat[1]: isn't that kind of justified, though? I feel ilke, if some kid came into my shop with a liveboot that could wipe my whole disk, i'd be pretty upset08:38
om26er!anyone | Skyblayde08:38
ZIv25Hello , does it possible to to disable the ssh time limit ? so i can stay login for days even without any activity ?08:38
ubottuSkyblayde: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?08:39
iceroot_djyox: yes you can leave it on the system08:39
SkyblaydeIceroot, what are you talking about?08:39
riverbirdYonni_Poo, i tend to agree with zcat[1] . if not a usb, take a cd with you.  otherwise, find the box you want, then install on it.  jmo08:39
iceroot_!ot | Skyblayde08:39
ubottuSkyblayde: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!08:39
zcat[1]Yonni_Poo:  like ghosting is hard?08:39
Yonni_PooZIv25: purely curious: why do you want to do that?08:39
iceroot_!ask | Skyblayde08:39
ubottuSkyblayde: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)08:39
iceroot_Skyblayde: that two ones08:39
echotoneskyblayde: there are web pages for resetting all visuals on the system.  i can help you look for them if thats an option you are willing to do.08:39
Yonni_Poozcat[1]: ghosting?08:40
SkyblaydeEchotone, Can we go private with it then so i dont embarrass myself?08:40
Skyblaydehehe08:40
zcat[1]the 'recovery disk'08:40
echotoneif u insist. im just going to be on google looking for the page. i had to do it a while back08:40
Seven_Six_Twochibzuit, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-98827.html08:40
echotonehiut me up08:40
Yonni_Poozcat[1]: oooh, i've never heard it called ghosting. right, okay. i'll just do it then (i always have a liveUSB anyways).08:41
Yonni_Poothanks :) all08:41
djyoxAlright, one more question, then I have to go start packing again. Is there any programs that you could recommend for me to download and start messing with. I'm going to a FOB that may not have internet connection. I use my N95 to connect to the internet through my laptop sometimes, but that is 14.4 slow.08:41
zcat[1]computer retailers generally have an OEM install disk for each model, they boot off that and run an autoresotre and it's back to factory in five or ten minutes08:41
zcat[1]*autorestore08:41
djyoxin other words, any must have programs08:41
Yonni_Poozcat[1]: sure, I'd imagine that'd be similar to what you get with an Acer where you bring it "back to factory" with all the Acer pre-installed garbage (not tomention on windows08:42
syriuswhat's a good program to just reduce the kb/s of mp3 files for portable media playing?08:42
syriuswell like that you can make it so that it creates new files of reduce kb/s mp3 files08:43
djyoxcan mplayer encode mp3's? if so, that might work?08:43
syriushigh kb/s for portable media player can really kill the battery :/08:43
ntemishi08:44
intelhow to enable 3D view in chess08:44
ntemisi fixed my audio08:44
zcat[1]syrius:  and use up all the flash08:44
MaSSaSLaYeRok i've installed the broadcom wireless drivers via Jockey-KDE what now?08:44
ntemisbut i dont have the icon for audio in top right panel08:44
syriusup all the flash is a program?08:44
ntemisto lower or put higher the volume on the fly08:44
zcat[1]syrius:  I think lame can convert directly from mp3 to a lower bitrate08:44
intel--------------------------------how to enable 3D view in chess08:44
zcat[1]syrius:  high-bitrate mp3's are big and use more flash memory in your mp3 player08:45
intel-------how to enable 3D view in chess-------08:45
BeeBuuhi,all.anyone know is there a programme can voice chat under command line?08:45
syriusI see zcat[1]08:45
syriuswell I don't care about that much08:45
intelhelp-----how to enable 3D view in chess-----08:45
ardchoille!patience | intel08:45
ubottuintel: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.08:45
syriusI want high kb/s songs for playing on the computer just not for media player08:45
zcat[1]syrius:  I'm not sure if they also use battery faster. I suspect there's little difference08:45
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intelok sorry yaa08:46
om26er!repeat | intel08:46
kr_217how to load ppolicy.la in ubuntu08:46
syriuswell according to apple's site it suggests to use lower bitrate for files to save battery life zcat[1]08:46
Yonni_Poowhoops, battery died08:46
syriusI use rockbox and put my music files in a separate folder on  my ipod I hate the way apple does it08:47
riverbirdMaSSaSLaYeR, vincent?08:47
syriusso then I can just enable MTP plugin for rockbox and then I am all good08:47
MaSSaSLaYeRyes08:47
syriuswhile disabling ipod plugin08:47
zcat[1]syrius:  for a hard drive player, lower bitrate would mean less frequent reads which require spinning the drive up. But I don't think it would be an issue for a flash-based player, only hard-drive ones.08:48
MaSSaSLaYeRyes riverbird08:48
Yonni_Poojust ahring: (system 76 laptops come default with a *whimmppyy* battery)08:48
syriusit is a hard drive based player zcat[1]08:48
syriuswell flash-based has a limit of the amount of reads08:48
aquariusYonni_Poo, yeah, I bought two extra 9-cell batteries for my M1330 :)08:48
syriuswell it is a pretty huge amount of reads  now but in the beginning it wasn't a lot of reads to make it unable to write to it anymore08:49
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riverbirdMaSSaSLaYeR, saw you on earlier.  type the first couple letters of my username, then tab to autocomplete08:49
riverbirdMaSSaSLaYeR, keeps us highlighted08:49
inteli didn't get the answer in those links08:49
riverbirddid you enable the proprietary drivers?08:49
intelPlease someone help08:49
riverbirdMaSSaSLaYeR, did you enable the proprietary drivers?08:50
MaSSaSLaYeRhow i do that ?08:50
FreeBSDasdf08:50
MaSSaSLaYeRriverbird,08:50
MaSSaSLaYeRriverbird,  i did the free ones08:50
riverbirdMaSSaSLaYeR, you running in server? or gui?08:51
Yonni_Pooaquarius: you know, i'd never have known (aside from your comments, and the ubuntu laptop testing pages) that dell's xps has extra detailed model number, like you say, "m1330"... it doesn't say it *anywhere* noteableon there page: http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/notebooks/laptop-studio-xps-13/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-studio-xps-13&s=dhs&cs=1908:51
MaSSaSLaYeRgui08:51
zcat[1]!patience | intel08:51
ubottuintel: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.08:51
jozefkanyone knows some human, ubutnu theme I could use on windows 7?08:51
MaSSaSLaYeRriverbird, xfce408:51
chibzuitSeven_Six_Two, the "lost" sectors are not because of formating the partition. http://pastebin.com/d44b0794708:51
zcat[1]intel:  looking into this; there's a package you may need to install, I just can't remember what it was08:51
om26erjozefk: #ubuntu-offtopic plz08:51
jozefkah ok :)08:51
MaSSaSLaYeRriverbird,  enabling the proprietary drivers atm08:52
zcat[1]intel:  so the error when you try to enable it says you need Python OpenGL and Python GTKGLExt08:52
intelyes08:52
riverbirdMaSSaSLaYeR, did you get the # of the actual bcm chipset?  ie, bc43xx?08:52
zcat[1]intel:  open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install -y python-opengl python-gtkglext1"08:53
MaSSaSLaYeRriverbird,  it says the broadcoam B43 wireless driver and broadcom sta wireless driver the broadcom sta wirelless doesn't want to enable08:54
ntemisgnome-volume-control-applet doesnt show on panel08:54
aquariusYonni_Poo, yeah, "XPS" is a whole range of laptops. Dell just don't let on that that's the case, it seems, which is a bit weird. That XPS13 looks pretty sweet, though, even if it does only come with nvidia graphics :)08:54
inteloh.... it says-----08:54
ntemishow i re-enable it?08:54
michaeldoes anyone know anything about sxipper?08:54
riverbirdMaSSaSLaYeR, ah .. sta08:54
MaSSaSLaYeRriverbird,  sorry if i act stupid but i'm not so experienced :p that's why i bought this laptop to learn more :p08:55
riverbirdMaSSaSLaYeR, that has been fussy.  bc4312, 4315 .. ?? do you know?  not all chips are supported08:55
zcat[1]intel:  for future reference; I found those by searching "apt-cache search python [whatever]" from the things glchess was saying needed to be installed08:55
MaSSaSLaYeRriverbird,  let me search08:55
intelzcat,   it says---"E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)08:55
intelE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? "08:55
Yonni_Pooaquarius: I appreciate you looking. so it doesn't look to you like there's a whole nother rabbit hole of xps pages I should find with different specs (say intel chips) -- somewhere else on there messy site?08:56
riverbirdMaSSaSLaYeR, lspci -v  find the network controller08:56
riverbirdMaSSaSLaYeR, http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Known_PCI_devices08:57
zcat[1]intel:  you have another package manager open? (synaptic, software centre, update manager?) -- close any or wait for updates to finish .. or as a last resort try a reboot, it may just be something that is hung or forgot to release the lockfile..08:57
MaSSaSLaYeRriverbird, Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)08:57
MaSSaSLaYeRSubsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 137d08:57
aquariusYonni_Poo, not with Ubuntu pre-installed, it seems (dell.com/ubuntu lists all their current models)08:57
kr_217how to load ppolicy.la in ubuntu08:57
Yonni_Pooaquarius: yeah, I saw that too. :\ Oh well, off to a battle at the near by PC store, it is.08:58
riverbirdMaSSaSLaYeR, see above link.  4312 only partially supported - 'g' networks only08:58
zcat[1]Yonni_Poo:  also if you get one with windows installed, reclaim the windows tax!!08:58
aquariusYonni_Poo, yeah. I wish there were loads of places where you could buy proper Ubuntu laptops, but Dell and System76 are the main two, I think, both of which I've been really pleased with in the past. Dell don't do my M1330 any more, tragically!08:59
MaSSaSLaYeRriverbird,  i will look hold on08:59
Yonni_Poomaybe i'll just bring Richard Stallman in with me... He'll talk them out of their rage.08:59
intelhey  ZCAT, I think something is happening08:59
intelthanks thoug08:59
dsdeizhi! can't i not do wget -O - file.zip | unzip ?08:59
Yonni_Poozcat[1]: actually, its funny you mention windows tax, because when I asked a Dell sales assitant, they said, "No, the windows installation is free, there's no refund to give on that"... i was like.. YEAH, okay.09:00
Yonni_Poozcat[1]: but, either way, I can't see what I can say to that response09:00
MaSSaSLaYeRriverbird, what can i do do let the other wireless networks work?09:00
zcat[1]Yonni_Poo:  they pay -nothing- to microsoft? seriously?!!09:01
* joejc finds windows really annoying09:01
zcat[1]wow, I didn't know msft were that desperate to retain market share ;)09:01
MaSSaSLaYeRbecause the laptop is distributed with SUSE so normally there would be drivers09:01
Yonni_Poozcat[1]supposedly? - idk, I doubt it, but... if it mattered enough that we could (as consumers) really find out what deal they had with Dell - I wouldn't be too surprised if Microsoft wasn't giving vendors their OS for free.09:01
michaelimporting .rfp files to sxipper - possible?09:02
riverbirdMaSSaSLaYeR, otherwise you have bcmwl-kernel-source and bcmwl-modaliases installed?09:02
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riverbirdMaSSaSLaYeR, ??  cant help you there.  sorry.09:02
djyoxThanks everyone for your help.09:02
MaSSaSLaYeRriverbird,  let me check on those things09:03
Pupuser402hi all09:03
zcat[1]Yonni_Poo:  I think technically they're right, they pay very little to msft and make it back on 'shovelware' like trial versions of norton and office09:03
aquariusdsdeiz, unzip doesn't seem to support getting a zipfile on standard input, as far as I can tell09:03
Yonni_Pooaquarius: actually, I really wanted this System76 to work out for me. its unfortunate  --  I just feel its silly of me to spend 1400 dollars on a hole-in-the-wall company when I could spend $20 less to get the same/or-better specs from Dell09:03
FollyGuys, I'm getting errors in my dmesg. Here's a log: http://pastehtml.com/view/5sje8l0.html09:04
riverbirdMaSSaSLaYeR, you may be able to copy drivers over? otherwise it may be an issue of the ubuntu kernel, not sure if thats shared with SUSE09:04
zcat[1]Yonni_Poo:  but this is getting way offtopic.. ;)09:04
om26erkick folly09:04
MaSSaSLaYeRok09:04
aquariusdsdeiz, yeah, it doesn't; unzip -hh says that it doesn't support streaming (reading from stdin)09:04
riverbirdMaSSaSLaYeR, another page maybe helpful .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/09:04
Follyom26er: What?09:04
Yonni_Poozcat[1]: ooh, wow! you should see the nasty list of "components" that get saved when you print off your shopping cart for later use. really all you're trying to get a list of is: cpu, ram, hdd, monitor, (maybe 4 more  things?)... its like a 20 ITEM list! (all anti-spyware, etc. etc)09:05
Yonni_Poozcat[1]: (that's in reference to Dell's shopping cart)09:05
rukii upgraded to linux version *.16 from *.14 and i am seeing their respective options in grub loader. are the two taking their own memory space?09:05
MaSSaSLaYeRriverbird,  i will try those things thanks for the help09:05
Yonni_Poozcat[1]: right... #ubuntu cahnnel09:05
iceroot_ruki: on harddisk, yes09:05
rukiiceroot_: but it was supposed to be a upgrade!09:06
SkyblaydeLooking to tweak Ubuntu Performance, namely Network and Graphics. Anyone willing to work with a linux newb?09:06
zcat[1]Yonni_Poo:  there are websites that tell you how to claim it back anyhow.. first step is I think you don't bother hassling the salesperson because they don't have the power to help you.09:06
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riverbirdMaSSaSLaYeR, all i got.  good luck09:06
iceroot_ruki: yes but what to do if the uprade fails or new kernel is bad? then you can use the old one09:07
SkyblaydePrivate IM me, if your willing to help plz.09:07
Yonni_Poozcat[1]: oh, great! I'll look it up09:07
iceroot_Skyblayde: what is the problem about network performance? (answer in one line please)09:07
rukiiceroot_:ok. how much harddisk space is the new version taking?09:07
Matsonwhen you use apt-get to remove a package, can I also have it remove all the support packages that are not needed any more?  how do  Ido that?09:07
yogeshhelp09:08
Pupuser402please tell me a good ubuntu based os for netbooks (Eee Pc)09:08
zcat[1]Matson:  apt-get autoremove09:08
iceroot_ruki: ls -all /boot09:08
MatsonPupuser402: eee pc works with 9.1009:08
Matsonzcat[1]: thanks09:08
EsatYucehi, How can i download VirtualBox newest version?09:08
Goliathhi09:08
iceroot_!unr | Pupuser40209:08
ubottuPupuser402: Ubuntu Netbook Remix is a slightly altered version of Ubuntu, optimised for small screens. For more information, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR - support in #ubuntu09:08
FollyGuys can you help me with this? http://pastehtml.com/view/5sje8l0.html09:08
iceroot_EsatYuce: from there website (sue the repo and help on there website)09:09
zcat[1]EsatYuce:  go to their website and click download link?!09:09
iceroot_!op | Folly09:09
ubottuFolly: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) -  elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia!09:09
Goliathwhich is the easiest firewall i can use for linux? firestarter/ipkungfu/guarddog/other ?09:09
Yonni_Pooreclaiming windows sales tax, if you plan on installing Ubuntu later :) http://www.linux.com/archive/articles/59381   ---however, I'm not sure how easy it'll actually be09:09
iceroot_Goliath: ufw09:09
pawanhi09:09
iceroot_Goliath: but normally you dont need one09:09
pawanno volume control in oss09:09
EsatYuceiceroot_,  and zcat[1] : i tried it, but after downloaded, i cant see the application on my menu09:09
inzihello09:10
iceroot_EsatYuce: its a bug, you have to restart your desktop or start it from the terminal09:10
zcat[1]Yonni_Poo:  basically you just have to keep at it. they probably don't really owe you anything but will eventually give you some money to make you go away...09:10
iceroot_EsatYuce: its only showing in the menu after reloging or relaoding09:10
Goliathiceroot_: is it easier than firestarter?09:10
inzihi.. does anyone know why ubuntu shows a lower signal strength on wifi, compared to windows09:10
Pupuser40210x and another question ... Eee PC 901 has 2 SSD's - one mounted as / , the other must be /home?09:11
zcat[1]EsatYuce:  oh, so the real question is how do you _install_ virtualbox after downloading it?09:11
iceroot_Goliath: dont know, for what you need a firewall?09:11
iceroot_inzi: other driver09:11
luckymuraliHi to all09:11
inzihi.. does anyone know why ubuntu shows a lower signal strength on wifi, compared to windows, on windows i get 4bars, on ubuntu 2 bars09:11
Pupuser402sorry for my English09:11
iceroot_Pupuser402: i amm using that too like that with / and /home09:11
inziiceroot.. could u pls clarify09:11
EsatYucezcat[1],  i download it from the site there are many link, i select the correct link for my sistem and downloaded it09:11
iceroot_inzi: ubuntu is using another driver then windows09:12
iceroot_inzi: so maybe its because of the driver09:12
inzii am using a usb dongle for wife09:12
luckymuraliis there any limitations to increase on swap???09:12
Pupuser402ok i will test it :)09:12
inzii mean wifi09:12
luckymuralimy RAM is 8 GB09:12
inziiceroot .does having lower signal strength affect my speed09:12
iceroot_luckymurali: no limit09:12
luckymuraliAlready I created 3 time .swap file and added it09:12
luckymuraliiceroot, hi09:13
SwedeMikeluckymurali: why do you need a swap file with 8 gigs of ram?09:13
luckymuralisudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/10240Mb.swap bs=1M count=1024009:13
luckymuralidd: opening `/mnt/10240Mb.swap': Text file busy09:13
iceroot_inzi: not always09:13
shruggarhow does ubuntu determine the grub options to put in menu.lst when it regenerates that file?09:13
zcat[1]luckymurali:  beyond 4G there is really no need for swap except to hibernate; swap=ram...09:13
inziok.. thank you iceroot09:13
* ikonia wakes09:13
luckymuraliSwedeMike , my query tooks aroung 50GB09:13
iceroot_!tab | inzi09:14
ubottuinzi: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.09:14
luckymuraliim using main memory DB09:14
llutzluckymurali: did "mkswap yourfile" before?09:14
iceroot_ikonia: thx09:14
ikoniasorry for the slow response09:14
inzioh.. hehe thnx09:14
SwedeMikeluckymurali: is your problem to create the file or to make it be swap?09:14
luckymuralicreate the file itself09:14
SwedeMikeluckymurali: what happens if you choose another file name?09:15
luckymuralidd: opening `/mnt/10240Mb.swap': Text file busy09:15
luckymuralithis is the message09:15
llutzluckymurali: what filesystem is /mnt on?09:15
luckymuraliext209:15
Skyblaydeext309:15
SwedeMikeluckymurali: it's either a problem with file size (if it's fat32 or something), or a permission problem (do it using sudo)09:15
luckymuraliyes im using it with sudo unly09:16
djyoxHello again, one more quick question. What is the differnece in uses of 'sudo' and 'gksu'?09:16
luckymuralihow to kill all the process running on my machine09:16
Skyblaydeone is a graphical internface (gksudo)09:16
ulgensi have a problem with module i810, it's not work09:16
Skyblaydesudo is manual09:16
ulgenscan you help me09:16
ikoniadjyox: one sources a graphical environment for X11 apps09:16
zcat[1]SwedeMike:  the error message doesn't suggest either of those; it seems to me that /mnt/whatever is busy; ie it already exists and is already being used by something?09:16
djyoxAHHH, sweetness, I guess that would explain why it pops open a window then...09:17
djyox<---- noob09:17
djyox:D thanks!09:17
ikoniadjyox: no problem, always better to ask09:17
zcat[1]luckymurali:  try 'swapoff' then create the file, then use 'mkswap filename' to turn it into a swapfile, then swapon swapfile' to enable it again09:17
djyoxikonia, yeah... I'm never too proud to ask. I'd rather just know the correct thing thing than pretend I do...09:18
pablumhow to configure xorg if install didn't find vcard address or monitor timings?09:18
zcat[1]luckymurali:  'swapoff -a' I think... you won't be able to write lots of nulls to a swapfile that the system is currently using!09:18
pablum...short of writing a xorg.conf file from scratch, that is...09:18
luckymuralizcat[1],thanks09:18
SwedeMikezcat[1]: he said he tried 4 different file names.09:18
dooglus!tor09:19
ubottuMany Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as TOR due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks09:19
dooglus!info tor09:19
luckymuralibut how can i kill all my process or how can i freeup my current swap09:19
ubottuPackage tor does not exist in karmic09:19
dooglusany idea what the tor package is called?09:19
dooglus!proxies09:19
ubottu"Proxies" are services acting as intermediate agents in various sorts of Internet connections. Examples are TOR, !apt-proxy, and HTTP proxies (such as "squid"). It is possible to install and use Ubuntu via some proxy connections: see FIXME09:19
Slartluckymurali: kill all the processes? power off the machine? without processes there is.. well.. nothing running.. no os .. no nothing09:20
llutzdooglus: tor, but it isn't in standard-repos09:20
dooglusllutz: which repo is it in?09:20
pablumthe display panel only offers 800x600, but this monitor (viewsonic a71f+) is capable of more...09:20
llutzdooglus: sry idk, google it09:20
dooglusI wonder why it's not available safely - seems odd to make us install from a 3rd party repo09:20
Slartluckymurali: the swapoff method sounds a lot more promising09:20
luckymuraliSlart,ok just i need to restart thr kernel without reebooting09:20
Slartluckymurali: hmm... not really sure I've ever heard that mentioned.. is there a particular reason you don't want to reboot?09:21
luckymuraliyes my results are cold cached09:22
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luckymuralielse i need to execute my query for another 8 hrs09:22
om26er!ayatana09:23
riverbirdluckymurali, maybe too much swap?09:23
luckymuraliyes09:23
riverbirdluckymurali, why any w/ 8g ram?09:23
luckymuraliim doing swapoff09:23
luckymuraliwhen i restart my maching swapon will happen automatically???09:24
Slartluckymurali: ouch.. no way to dump the cache contents to the hard drive?09:24
zcat[1]luckymurali:  I am fairly certain that you are asking the wrong question; you have a problem. You have made some assumptions of your own about the cause of that problem which are probably not correct. I think you should ask for help with the original problem...09:24
luckymuralizcat[1], Im sure about my problem09:24
luckymuralii have a database which is a main memory database09:25
luckymuraliso the results are in main memory09:25
riverbirdluckymurali, are you using ramzwap?09:26
luckymuraliit has a dvantage of cold caching09:26
zcat[1]luckymurali:  well, you can add an unlimited number of 1G swapfiles without dissabling any of the existing swapspace...09:26
luckymuraliriverbird,what is that??09:26
zcat[1]or any other size...09:26
luckymuralizcat[1], yes im doing that09:26
riverbirdluckymurali, your /swap only needs 256k09:26
riverbirdif that09:27
zcat[1]I'm not sure why you can't create any file in /tmp unless somewhere along the road /tmp has accidentally become a file rather than a directory09:27
zcat[1]sorry, /mnt not /tmp09:27
luckymuralizcat[1], swapoff is really solved my problem09:28
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luckymuralibut i need to do swapon or it will automatically on when i reboot my machine???09:28
zcat[1]also of you really do need significantly more than 2xram then you are going to have some really bad performance issues09:28
Ace42Hello chaps, my laptop's running in 1024*768; I'm sure it can go higher but there is no option to set that in Karmic's Display Preferences - how do I over-ride that and add higher resolutions to the list?09:30
zcat[1]!res09:30
ubottuThe X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution09:30
coz_Ace42,  which video card is on that laptop?09:30
riverbirdnot even 2x ram, but with 4gb or more, the 2gb swap is plenty09:30
Slartluckymurali: just out of curiosity.. is the some advantage to having a database in memory (which in reality is swapped out to disk) compared to having the database on the disc from the beginning?09:30
dooglusAce42: the system has been improved recently to make such configuration unneccesary.  xorg knows best.09:30
coz_Ace42,  lspci | grep -i vga    in terminal09:30
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riverbirdluckymurali,  ramzwap  is installed but configured at 0 % usage (disabled). Enabling it is usually done by modifying /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf and setting some value to COMPCACHE_SIZE09:32
Ace42Intel Corp Mobile  915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller09:32
Ace42I am pretty sure that it can handle more than 1024*768; so I very much doubt it knows best09:32
luckymuraliSlart,by doing that we can run the query in high speed (atleast 10 times faster)09:32
luckymuraliim using it for OLAP purpose09:32
riverbirdluckymurali, a value like 50 %. Then rebuild initramfs images with "update-initrams -u -k all"09:32
coz_Ace42,   mm   not sure then since I rarely work with Intel graphics.... you might have to add modlines for your graphics in the xorg.conf  but then again I rarely do that myself anylonger...I am sure someone here can help with that09:33
luckymuraliyes this swapoff saved my time and the results09:33
foormeahi09:33
luckymuralithanks guys :)09:33
Ace42Idon't have an xorg.conf, I gathered it was obsolete post-HAL09:33
foormeais skype supposed to be present in medibuntu's repos for 64 bits?09:33
Slartluckymurali: oh.. didn't expect that.. thanks for explaining09:33
zcat[1]I am a little puzzled why running a database in 'memory' (where vast amounts of it are swapped to disk) is faster than running it from disk (where as much as possible will be cached in ram anyhow..)09:33
coz_Ace42,  you can probably generate one with   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh  xserver-xorg09:34
Slartfoormea: I think so.. I think I installed it using the medibuntu repos09:34
zcat[1]basically ubuntu will _always_ put as much as possible in real memory and leave the rest on disk, no matetr how you think you have it configured09:34
foormeaSlart: 64bits right?09:35
riverbirdzcat[1], i'm a little confused why with 8gb ram there is need for any swap at all?09:35
mnowluckI'm sorry for being stupid, however I just went to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download and I found only 32 bit, is there anyway I can download the 64bit?09:35
Slartfoormea: right.. 64bit karmic..    "Installed: 2.1.0.47-0medibuntu2"09:35
luckymuralizcat[1], actually the query execution only takes more RAM when there is insufficient memory i will drop all the effort09:35
foormeaSlart: ok..09:35
luckymuraliso I dont want to take that risk(because it is data oriented) not recommended by DBA's09:36
Slartmnowluck: there's supposed to be a 64bit download in the same place.. isn't there a "select another variant" button?09:36
joaopintozcat[1], running a database in 'memory' will pin the data in active RAM as long it's used, unlike on disk for which you are dependent on cache availability and which is shared with other disk I/O operations09:36
mnowluckSlart: nope.. it showed me only 32 bit09:37
indusmnowluck: look a little below and you will see a line saying , more options .........09:37
mnowluckis it because I'm on 32 bit?09:37
coz_mnowluck, go to ubuntu.com and just under the "Sownload loaction"  is   Alternative download options, including Ubuntu installer fo09:37
Slartmnowluck: try "alternative download options, including Ubuntu installer for windows".. right below the "Download location" selector09:37
coz_mnowluck,  I meant   "Download locations"09:37
Newbie-Widgethey guys, wondering if anyone could lend me a hand...i cant get my touchpad to work on my laptop. i installed somthing earlier and now i can get the touchpad option in System > preferences, but wen i open it, it says "Gsynaptics could initialize" i need to set SHMconfid "true' ect...   any help would be great09:37
ph33ris anyone facing any problems in weather.com weather ?09:37
ardchoilleWho was looking for 64bit Karmic download?09:37
zcat[1]joaopinto:  I'll take your word for it, but all of my experience with memory allocation says there will be no practical dofference at all.09:38
mnowluckoh I'm sorry LOL! I have to just click on the more options.. thanks09:38
indusmnowluck: alternative download , > choose architecture09:38
Slartmnowluck: on the right side it says "Choose the architecture" with options for 32bit and 64bit09:38
coz_ph33r,  let me check09:38
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indusi want lucy liunx09:38
ph33rcoz_: thanks, I can't seem to fetch weather by the xoap service for bagalore India :/09:38
Slart!lucid | indus09:38
coz_ph33r, ah  I see  mmm09:38
ubottuindus: Lucid Lynx is the codename for Ubuntu 10.04, due April 2010 - Lucid is NOT released and is NOT stable - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+109:38
joaopintoriverbird, swap never hurts, if you are doing reading/processing operations over 7GBs of data, and if you have 7GB of sleeping apps that can be swapped out, those 7GBs can be used for disk i/o caching09:38
induscant wait for the LTS 109:39
indus!09:39
coz_ph33r,  have you tried any of the applets for weather?09:39
ph33rcoz_: I use conky09:39
joaopintozcat[1], this is theory, for the real thing you would need to benchmark it :P09:39
ph33rbut I can't access the webby either09:39
* shyam_k trying to get gprs from mobile through data cable 09:39
coz_ph33r,  mmm I never use conky so I am not real familiar with settings for that09:39
shyam_kbut wvdial says of error code 16 that the modem is disconnecting the link though i can see chap authentication succeeded..09:40
Ace42Grah, no xorg.conf generated, and it seems it is a problem a lot of people have run into09:40
ph33rcoz_: but I can't even access the website for bangalore india, INXX001209:40
Ace42Seems like a HAL problem09:40
coz_ph33r,  is bangalore india close to another  location that may work << just for testing09:40
ph33rcoz_: chennai India09:41
coz_ph33r,  give that try to be sure it is weather.com09:41
kr_217anybody know the "Moduleload" is part of which package?09:41
Newbie-Widgethey guys, wondering if anyone could lend me a hand...i cant get my touchpad to work on my laptop. i installed somthing earlier and now i can get the touchpad option in System > preferences, but wen i open it, it says "Gsynaptics could initialize" i need to set SHMconfid "true' ect...   any help would be great09:41
coz_ph33r,  and perhaps a few other locations09:41
ph33rcoz_: ok09:41
skitzohey guys if i have all my media in various other partitions how do i link them to the folders under places?09:42
ardchoilleskitzo: drag a folder to the places pane09:42
coz_skitzo,   well if you   go to that location open one of the folders and hit  ctrl+d  it should list it under Places menu09:42
tarelerulzWhat is one of the best dvd ripping tools?09:43
skitzooh true this doesn't transfer them aye09:43
reactorskitzo, delete folders and make symbolic links to your ones09:43
skitzo?09:43
ardchoilleskitzo: just drag a folder to the places pane, it works09:43
coz_tarelerulz,  http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/12810509:43
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herr_karlwhere to file the bug that radeon+kms+external CRT doesnt allow resolution > 60 Hz ? (EDID is broekn btw)09:44
coz_tarelerulz,  I use handbrake for converting  but apparenlty it is also capable of dvd rips as well09:44
ardchoillecoz_: it is09:44
skitzowhen i do that it trys to copy them over09:44
coz_ardchoille,  cool09:44
coz_skitzo,  did you try the ctrl+d09:45
skitzo? sorry dude im pretty lost atm first time switching to linux been a windows user for to long :)09:45
Newbie-Widgetanyone familiar with getting either Touchpads or Wireless Networking up and running in Ubuntu 8.04  ??09:46
coz_skitzo,  are you talking to me?  if so  if you type the first 3 letters of someone's nick  then hit the tab button to complete it  it will change text colours of that person  so he knows you are talking to him :)09:46
* shyam_k have been trying for some time now writing all different configurations for wvdial.conf but no success in getting net on system.. though its working inside phone09:47
WizzupHi. I recently got my hands on a wacom bamboo tablet. It is said to work out of the box on ubuntu 9.*, but it isn't even detected09:47
shyam_kmine is a sony ericsson w700i i had to change a seperate09:47
hipitihopthe vlc 1.0.2 build in Karmic does not have upnp support, can someone help me to build it ?09:47
skitzocoz_, wicked haha09:47
skitzoor not09:47
coz_skitzo,   :)09:47
shyam_kmine is a sony ericsson w700i i had to change a seperate "Settings for Java" for the java apps like browsers to work09:47
coz_skitzo,  yeah that worked :)09:47
skitzooh ahaha09:47
NastenHello Community! :-)09:48
shyam_kdonno if there is someting similar for letting the modem to work for an external computer too..09:48
Newbie-WidgetHoe do i EDIT XORG.CONF ?09:48
coz_skitzo,  now if you go to the drive  that has say a music folder and  you want that to show up under the Places menu..go there and click on that folder  to open it  and then hit  ctrl+d  to list it under Places menu09:48
Newbie-Widgetcaps*09:48
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, maybe help w/ wifi.  do you have a wired connection in the meantime?09:48
nightmoanin09:48
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Newbie-Widgetriverbird: hi, yes using ethernet atm09:49
coz_skitzo,  I believe ...even on other drives ...that should show up under Places09:49
hipitihopNewbie-Widget, 'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'09:49
Newbie-Widgethipitihop: ty :)09:49
mnowluckNewbie-Widget: Have you tried this yet? Applications>Terminal sudo pppoeconf09:50
Newbie-Widgetriverbird: hardware Drivers says I have Atheros Hardware Access Layer and Support for Atheros 802.11 wifi lan card.. both ticked09:50
qdbzeppelin , why, about what you have said "full of win" today 5:21 gmt in #test channel? my os has been hacked at 4:40 gmt today. my xchat was running. it was also in #test channel. zeppelin is in  #ubuntu, #defocus, #freenode, #xchat now. i am going to write this in all or several of that channels. zeppelin has said that  by name dougdoug4 and changed name to zeppelin. i have written about hacking at http://qdb.wp.kukmara.ru/2009/12/16/how-my-os-is-hacked-today09:50
Newbie-Widgetmnowluck; no oi havnt, will try now, thnx :)09:50
qdb/ . zeppelins that irc domain/ip/ident i do not know what identificator is mailto:n=jacob@cpe-98-154-103-48.socal.res.rr.com in both 5:21 and now. i say this because there can be some suspicion, i do not know zeppelin, but may be this can help to somebody to understand more.   of  course this is very little suspicion against zeppelin. also there some dougdoug4 says that he is hacker this found in first page of google search now: http://forum.swiftirc.net/viewto09:50
qdbpic.php?f=6&t=21657&view=next  .09:51
Nastenso, i am facing very slow wlan file transfer and i can't find any solution anywhere09:51
cheepoguys09:51
Nasteni guess it's a common problem09:51
skitzocoz_, so theres no way to link? just that i have multiple folders that i would like to have linked into one folder without having add all my folders listed as well as the current ones09:51
Nastenany suggestions?09:51
coz_skitzo,  mmm   not sure then    if no one can help here you might try  ##linux channel09:52
* mnowluck is testing how this pidgin works.. using mIRC for more than 3 years, first time using PIDGIN/Gaim09:52
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, hmm.  not familiar with that card.  do you know the chipset?09:52
mnowluckLOL.. mIRC commands do work here too09:52
ardchoille!ot | qdb09:52
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Newbie-Widgetriverbird: its in an older laptop, im pretty sure Atheros is the chipset09:52
qdbmy os is ubuntu09:53
Newbie-Widgetmnowluck: ran sudo pppoeconf , i think it only found my ethernet :S09:53
skitzocoz_, cheers mate09:53
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mnowluckNewbie-Widget: Yeah that's for your ethernet connection09:54
kristian_hi, i've got a question about opening pics with the imageviewer09:54
Slartkristian_: just ask09:54
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, lspci -vnn | grep 14e409:54
kristian_how do i open it directly just by clicking on the picture.09:55
Newbie-Widgetriverbird: do i type that into terminal ?09:55
riverbirdy09:55
kristian_since first gimp opens, then f-spot.09:55
skitzocoz_, btw im seeing that theres a x64 linux version d'oh! i got a x64 ready pc with windows 7 x64 dual booted would it be wise to reinstall a x64 version? and where do i find it?09:55
kristian_if i deinstall those then firefox opens the picture.09:55
Slartkristian_: double clicking on any file opens it in the default application for that file type.. if you want to change the default application you can do that by rightclicking on the file, selecting properties and changing the application in there09:56
coz_skitzo,  ok09:56
kristian_but never the picture viewer.09:56
Nastenok, linksys router g-mode, linksys pci card bg-mode, laptop in g-mode. Excelent transfer via internet, excelent streaming HD movies berween the two pcs BUT 400KB/s file transfer between them. Am i the only one having that problem...?09:56
ardchoillekristian_: open nautilus, right-click the picture and choose Properties. Go to the Open With tab and choose the default app to open the picture09:56
kristian_thank you.09:57
skitzocoz_, ?09:57
ardchoilleyw09:57
mnowluckIs there any IRC room for Wine?09:57
coz_skitzo,  sorry  I amy have answered  for the wrong person :)09:57
DJones!wine09:57
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu09:57
mnowlucki need somehelp with using that soft09:57
Aciidmnowluck: #winehq09:58
mnowluckthanks Aciid.. ubottu.. you're simply an awesome bot too09:58
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Newbie-Widgeti can see the touchpad for my laptop in the xorg.conf .. but i cant see where i have to set SHMconf to True...09:59
Nastenis there anyone into private talking about wlans? :-p10:00
Nastenany other specific channel about wlans maybe?10:00
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, yes, in terminal.  something like, AR5211 ..10:01
jas72zamarok gives me no sound when playing track10:02
mnowluckI typed this in the terminal and my firefox won't start again LOL sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0. Do I need to reboot it like windows too ? LOL10:02
LiLianahola10:03
edgimarIs it still the case in Karmic that /etc/passwd has the group id of each user set to a group having the same name as the username?  I ask because on my system, nearly all the group-ids in /etc/passwd are set to 65534 ('nogroup').10:03
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cyberjorgehi10:04
om26er!hi | cyberjorge10:05
ubottucyberjorge: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!10:05
cyberjorgeI want to install linux-image-xen but it says "no candidate version found"10:05
harmmnowluck > what happens if you type firefox in a terminal window?10:05
Newbie-Widgetriverbird:  im still not sure where to type AR5211 :S.. if its any help, the laptop is a Toshiba A100 Portege, model; PPA10A-0002LP10:05
cyberjorgehow do I install the Xen kernel for Ubuntu 9.10?10:05
mnowluckharm: after I did that it unpack the firefox db and it prompts me to restart my firefox10:06
cyberjorgehi om26er :)10:06
mnowluckand it will no longer start now10:06
om26er!xen10:06
ubottuXEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen10:06
cyberjorgeom26er: I actually installed Ubuntu under Xenserver just want to install the Xen modules to Paravirtualize it.10:08
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, no help.  try 'lspci -vnn | grep 14e4' in terminal, look for something like AR5211 ..10:08
nonexksholy crap i just had to reboot ubuntu lol10:08
asekohello10:08
om26er!hello | aseko10:08
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PoseyFlannel____, hello man how are you?10:09
q2Where do I get help with the sound preferences?10:09
Flannel____Posey: i am fine10:09
Newbie-Widgetriverbird:  ok, i typed 1spci -v | less into terminal, and the wifi says  CardBus bridge: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212/AR5213 Multiprotocol MAC/baseband processor10:09
Flannel____I am the ops.10:09
NastenHi, how can i move my bottom panel to the right side of the screen?10:09
PoseyFlannel____, arent you the ops here?10:09
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riverbirdNewbie-Widget, that works too.  AR5212/5213 is the actual chipset you have10:10
paissad-hphi all, i try to recompile tora package, but when i do "apt-get source tora", i have no "configure" word into debian/rules10:10
paissad-hpmay someone who has a little time do an "apt-source tora"  and look where i must change theh configure options ?10:10
Newbie-Widgetriverbird; that chipset is what i need ?10:10
paissad-hpthanks in advance10:10
skitzohey guys im a bit lost i didn't realise there was a x64 of ubuntu.. all i saw on the ubuntu site was a x32 :(10:11
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asekoim looking for an ubuntu developer10:13
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ikoniaaseko: what's the problem10:13
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, the info tells you if your specific chip is supported (looks like it is) and also helps configure it properly10:13
asekono problem, i have a suggestion for be next lts release10:13
om26eraseko: brainstorm.ubuntu.com10:14
jpdsaseko: File a wishlist bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/10:14
asekothx guys10:14
somebeeneed to do anything special after deleting large files? I've deleted gigabytes of files, but ubuntu still reports the disk as being full (server)10:14
Newbie-Widgetriverbird: cool :) .. now i just need to confure it so i can get onto a wireless network ;S10:14
skitzoanybody? just dont wanna get to far along if im going to have to reinstall a x64 version of ubuntu10:14
anon423hi10:15
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, are you getting error msgs?10:15
anon423what exactly does developer files mean? is it the source?10:15
nonexksi wonder how many programers wow keeps on the books10:15
Newbie-Widgetriverbird: none that i can see... i just cant see the option in the Network settings to connect to a wiless network10:16
q2how do I get a list of commands for freenode, is says "/msg command" but I don't know any commands!10:16
ardchoilleq2: /msg nickserv help10:16
thehigherentitycan anyone point me to a working howto on getting mail-notification with ssl to work I have googled and tried a few of the ones that turned up but still have no working ssl (ubuntu 9.10)10:16
vegombreihello ... i just got a new graphics card .. its a asus EAH 4890 ddr5 1 gb .. i need to know if i need any drivers of anysort to work this .. on booting it downloaded and installed ati drivers .. i guess thats it right ...10:16
q2ardchoille: when I enter that I get "Unsupported command"10:17
om26erq2: Install pidgin10:17
Newbie-Widgetriverbird; if i got network settings, the only adapters i see are for etherenet and dial up modem10:18
ardchoilleq2: which irc client are you using? that command works in several clients10:18
om26erq2: or anyother irc client, cuz empathy 2.28 don't support commands10:18
q2om26er: so, the command is fine it is the client I am using?10:18
airtonixanon423, yes but more specifically it is usually to provide bindings with other packages in order that they may compile properly10:18
airtonix!ot | nonexks10:19
ubottunonexks: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!10:19
q2om26er: Yes, empathy. And it has been a challenge. And my first experience with IRC and IM.10:19
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, do you have the network manager installed?10:19
ardchoilleq2: First time IRC? I would recommend xchat10:19
om26erq2: irc commands will  be fixed in next release of empathy, in the mean time use some other client10:19
airtonixq2, you will benefit from irc more if you use xchat or irssi rather than pidgin or empathy10:19
cark_?10:20
Newbie-Widgetriverbird: mmmm... not too sure :\10:20
zambai'm having huge problems with my X server and performance while playing full screen youtube.. my graphic card is a Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller.. as far as i can tell i'm using the intel driver10:20
* om26er thinks for basic irc chat client doesn't matter10:20
cark_alguien que hable español?10:20
om26er!es | cark_10:20
q2ardchoille and om26er: Cheers - I, do that.10:20
ubottucark_: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.10:20
cark_oki gracias.10:20
zambai have no xorg.conf and glxinfo segfaults10:21
induszamba: well its empty generally in 9l1010:22
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, Applications/add.remove10:22
zambaindus: i'm running 9.0410:22
* om26er says its not there10:22
induszamba: what is your display10:22
zambaindus: the graphic card, you mean?10:22
induszamba: yes10:22
zambaindus: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)10:22
om26er!music10:22
induszamba: do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:23
induszamba: then restart X10:23
induszamba: i suggest moving to 9.10 a lot of fixes for intel10:23
Newbie-Widgetriverbird: network manager does have a tick next to it10:23
indus!intel10:23
ubottuUbuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information.10:23
zambaindus: oh!10:23
indus!intel | zamba10:23
ubottuzamba: please see above10:23
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, is it on your taskbar?10:23
subsamneed pro like idm in ubuntu10:24
zambaindus: how do i upgrade?10:24
zambaindus: i'm running lots of ubuntu computers in a network lab10:24
zambaindus: so i need to do this remotely, instead of going from computer to computer10:24
induszamba: well, in update manager, you will find new release 9.10 available10:24
subsamneed pro like idm in ubuntu10:24
zambaindus: can't run update manager10:24
induszamba: why10:24
zambaindus: since i'm doing this remotely over ssh10:24
subsamneed pro like idm in ubuntu10:25
ardchoillesubsam: Can you elaborate on that please?10:25
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, as an icon?10:25
om26er!repeat | subsam10:25
ubottusubsam: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.10:25
zambaindus: and i'm going to do this on 40-50 computers at the same time10:25
Slartsubsam: just ask your question10:25
induszamba: ok wait 1 sec10:25
Newbie-Widgetriverbird: i did a search in add/rmove for network and saw it there. but, there is a "manual network configuration" icon near the clock..10:25
om26ersubsam: try multiget.10:25
Newbie-Widgetriverbird: but opening that only shows ethernet and dialup modem devices10:25
subsamneed pro cut the files to 4 , 8 ,16 peaces like idm in windows10:26
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, if it is checked then its already installed10:26
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, how about right click?10:26
subsamis there any pro like this in linux ?10:26
om26eris there a gui for xmms10:26
om26erxmms210:26
reverebeeri installed the libapache2-mod-php5 package. php runs fine, but now i want to connect to mysql databases. my code is giving me "undefined function" fatal errors when trying to connect to my db. i've read that i need to compile php with the --with-mysql option for my build to have mysql support, but im using the mod-php5 package... i can't just rebuild it with this option. what should i do?10:27
somebeedo you need to do anything special after deleting large files? I've deleted gigabytes of files, but ubuntu still reports the disk as being full (server)10:27
Slartsomebee: empty the trash?10:27
somebeeSlart: does rm put things into trash on ubuntu server?10:27
Slartsomebee: or wait.. command line.. nevermind10:27
Newbie-Widgetriverbird: the ethernet is ticked.. that works all good.. using laptop on ethernet now.. hmm... right click gives me option to "edit wireless network"... no option to search or roam for a nearby one though.. i tihnk it'll only let me manually setup..10:28
subsamneed the best download pro in linux /10:28
subsam?10:28
somebeeI have even deleted single files that were over 10GB each, and the server still reports 4GB available10:28
Goliath[12:27] <Goliath> I removed by mistake sudo with pacman. Whoever pacman saved /etc/sudoers as /etc/sudoers.pacsave, so when i installed again sudo i removed the new sudoers and used the old. But when i run a command using sudo i get this:10:28
Goliath[12:27] <Goliath> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 044010:28
Goliath[12:27] <Goliath> sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting10:28
Slartsomebee: no it doesn't.. unless someone has aliased rm to make some kind of homebrew trash feature10:28
subsamwhat is the best pro in download in ubuntu ?10:28
Newbie-Widgetriverbird: it's all greyed out in wireless options10:29
SlartGoliath: have you been editing your sudoers file?10:29
subsamwhat is the best downloading pro in ubuntu ?10:29
airtonix!best | subsam10:29
ardchoille!patience | subsam10:29
ubottusubsam: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.10:29
ubottusubsam: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.10:29
induszamba: can you tell me your setup10:29
Slartsubsam: to be quite honest I'm not sure I understand what you're looking for.. wget is nice for terminal downloading10:29
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, is there a box to 'enable networking' or 'enable wireless'?10:29
zambaindus: do-release-upgrade10:29
zambaindus: looks like the way to go10:29
induszamba: yes works too10:29
allistercan anyone help me with this window tearing problem im having?10:30
zambaindus: only problem is that i'm using an apt proxy10:30
zambaindus: and that seems to be blocking the upgrade10:30
Newbie-Widgetriverbird: yes, there's an 'enable networking' box, it's currently ticked10:30
ZIv25Hello , how can i cancel the ssh session time ? so i can leave the ssh connection open for unlimited time ?10:30
airtonixzamba, you also have the option of using a program that sends same terminal command at once to many machines10:30
zambaairtonix: yeah, going to use cluster-ssh10:30
subsamall this pros is so bord10:30
subsamboard10:30
induszamba: does the normal update process work?10:30
zambaindus: sure10:30
airtonixzamba, no i think its called something else, but if that works for you then thats good10:31
Seveaszamba, look at keyboardcast too10:31
Slartsubsam: have a look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_download_managers10:31
zambaSeveas: oh.. is that 'better'?10:31
subsami'm ask for fastest one10:31
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, but nothing for wireless?  ok10:31
ardchoillesubsam: What is your native language? There may be a channel which is better suited for you.10:31
Newbie-Widgetriverbird: nope, nothing :S10:31
Seveaszamba, it's GTK so looks nicer, has a nice spawn option and an option to grab existing windows10:31
zambaSeveas: ah, ok10:31
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, seems it is not recognizing your chip yet ..10:32
Seveasso I consider it better :)10:32
naaxaahi! a not really ubuntu related question... after i've downloaded a source code in a tgz or via svn, how can I "convert" it to build and work with it in an IDE, e.g. CodeBlocks,Visual Studio, Netbeans, etc. they are always creating something called "project"... but what to do with the plain source files. how is this "conversion" called10:32
subsamsry .  i don't speak inglish well10:32
subsamforgivin if is there any mistack10:32
ardchoillesubsam: No problem, what is your native language?10:32
DiverdudeDoes there exist a program for ubuntu that will group all tasks in the taskpane, so that e.g. all terminals will be grouped together, all browsers will be grouped together etc. ?10:32
subsamarabic10:32
allisteris anyone willing to talk to me in private chat to help me with some GUI issues?10:33
Slartnaaxaa: not entirely sure you can do it, generally speaking10:33
indusallister: ask here is good10:33
airtonixzamba, i think it might of been dsh10:33
ardchoillesubsam: you might want to look at gwget10:33
airtonix!info dsh | zamba10:33
ubottuzamba: dsh (source: dsh): dancer's shell, or distributed shell. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.25.10-1 (karmic), package size 34 kB, installed size 184 kB10:33
subsamnot good10:34
Newbie-Widgetriverbird: anything i can try to check if its online, or maybe uninstall and re-detect ?10:34
allisterwell i was fixing my wireless issues, and when i finally found a solution and install the stuff, after i restarted, my screen has almost no framerate10:34
allisterwindows tear really badly if i try to move them10:34
allisterso does scrolling anything10:34
cobhcf82Hi guys, is there an javascript SDK for eclipse? I know jeclipse exixts but i am not sure if it is available for ubuntu karmic10:34
allisterand images wont load on webpages10:34
subsamlike the others10:34
indusallister:is visual effects on10:35
subsami need somthing like dab or idm10:35
allisterno10:35
airtonixzamba, you also have these two commands (somewhere) : http://www.stearns.org/fanout/README.html10:35
allisterit wont let me even enable visual effects10:35
subsamcut the files and get the fastest download speed10:35
allisterive authorized my driver and everything10:35
naaxaaSlart: really? so how does open source programming work if I can't open the code easily?10:35
allisterand i dont have compiz running either10:35
DiverdudeDoes there exist a program for ubuntu that will group all tasks in the taskpane, so that e.g. all terminals will be grouped together, all browsers will be grouped together etc. ?10:36
Slartnaaxaa: you mean.. how does open source programmers survive without a fancy IDE or similar?10:36
ardchoilleDiverdude: you can right click the task bar and choose to group in the prefs10:36
Slartnaaxaa: use a text editor.. emacs, vi(m), gedit... any of those will work10:37
naaxaaSlart: well I don't like IDEs but I am confused: how does a source tarball and an IDE project comes together10:37
skitzohey guys im a bit lost with the grub loader at startup theres a couple versions of ubuntu.. which is the correct one to load and how can i clean it up so i can only pick the correct ubuntu version and windows?10:37
indus!who | allister10:37
ubottuallister: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)10:37
Slart!code | naaxaa10:37
ubottunaaxaa: Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans, QtCreator10:37
airtonixsubsam, firefox plugin i use called downthemall, you might like it (lets you download one file with multiple threads)10:37
Diverdudeardchoille, hmmm i dont see that option10:38
cobhcf82skitzo:, I have the same question.10:38
subsamexcuse, me every body , i need a download pro like idm or dab in ubuntu ?10:38
ardchoilleDiverdude: right click the left edge of the taskbar applet, choose preferences and then choose grouping10:38
skitzocobhcf82, ITS ANNOYING AYE!10:38
Slartnaaxaa: unless the developers themselves use a certain IDE I'm not sure you can.. many use text editors of different kinds10:38
subsamthanx dude bt this is a very normal program10:38
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, maybe try rebooting if you haven't.  and check here for more .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros10:38
naaxaaSlart: ok thanks :) so I see this is not an easy task after all?10:38
airtonixnaaxaa, open source programmers work with their projects the same way any other group of programmers do.10:38
cobhcf82skitzo: yup, no idea on how to clean it up.10:39
Diverdudeardchoille, ahhh yes there it is10:39
Diverdudecoool :D thanks10:39
ardchoilleyw10:39
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, i'm not sure how you loaded drivers, so not sure which parts of that page will apply10:39
airtonixnaaxaa, also : why do you need to 'open the code'10:39
cobhcf82skitzo: when I installed there was only 3 version. but since then one week has passed and suddenly one more appeared out of nowhere. lol10:39
Slartnaaxaa: nope.. have a look at the make files and autoconf.. I think those are pretty common.. both can be used with plain text editors10:39
naaxaaairtonix: ok it's not about opensource or not, my question is if you have a bunch of source files but you don't have a project file, how do you build your project10:39
ardchoillecobhcf82: that happens with a kernel update10:39
Newbie-Widgetriver: ok, thank you anyway, you've been great help ;) .. ill check out that link and try rebooting10:39
Newbie-Widget:)10:40
Newbie-Widgetriverbird: i mean :)10:40
cobhcf82ardchoille: how do I do a kernel update? i am quite new to ubuntu10:40
naaxaaSlart: yeah I know. but there are projects out there without them. how do those people do it?10:40
ardchoillecobhcf82: just make sure your system is kept up to date10:40
airtonixnaaxaa, understood, 1) you typically get the source files from the projects website ( they usually have a revision control server setup) 2) you obtain latest set of files with the CVS/git/bazzar/etc client 3) then you make a new project in your IDE of choice 4) point the projets root dir a the root dir of the files you just sync'd10:41
Slartnaaxaa: I'm just going to repeat myself....  they   use    a   simple   text   editor =)10:41
cobhcf82ardchoille: yeah, i run the update manager every 3,4 days10:41
zebastiancan ubuntu be put into an iphone touch 3gs?10:41
Slartnaaxaa: (simple text editor might be something huuge and complex like emacs.. but still)10:41
ardchoillecobhcf82: that will do it. But the fact that you now have a new kernel "from no where" is because of a kernel update10:41
cobhcf82ah ok10:41
naaxaaairtonix: aah.... that's it! I would never tried it couse i were affraid that i overwrite it :D10:42
cobhcf82archoille: why is there 3,4 version of ubuntu on the GRUB loader though? how can i clean up the old ones?10:42
skitzoardchoille, so which kernel should we pick when choosing? which is the latest?10:42
cobhcf82ardchoille: why is there 3,4 version of ubuntu on the GRUB loader though? how can i clean up the old ones?10:42
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, that page should help.  check the blacklists and isntalled packages.  also read the forum post10:42
Slartnaaxaa: you open a source file.. edit it the way you want it.. save it.. then use a terminal for compiling, building or whatever you want to do10:42
naaxaaairtonix, Slart : thanks!10:42
Newbie-Widgetriverbird: will do, thanks again :)10:42
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, alternately, get a pc card w/ better support -10:42
skitzoardchoille, and can we edit the unused ones out to clean it up10:43
naaxaaSlart: yeah I know this method but i never get it how to do it with an ide10:43
riverbirdNewbie-Widget, hah!10:43
AlexanderSupertrkubuntu questions answered here?10:43
ardchoillecobhcf82: skitzo , I don't usually mess with kernels and so am not qualified to give proper advice. I just keep them all.10:43
AlexanderSupertrhow do i rearrange order of widgets on default kde panel?10:43
naaxaaSlart, airtonix : thank you very much! now I've gotta go. bye!10:43
ardchoillecobhcf82: skitzo , The latest one will have the highest version number, I do know that10:43
skitzoardchoille, so is there any real difference between them?10:43
cobhcf82ardchoille: thanks man, its not problem for me. Just annoying to go past 6,7 lines to select win 7. :-D10:43
ardchoilleskitzo: yes, could be bug fixes and/or security updates10:44
skitzoardchoille, thanks anyway10:44
ardchoillecobhcf82: yes, I agree. There are folks here that can help you clean them up so keep trying10:44
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Guest99294hi10:44
cobhcf82ardchoille: thanks mate. will do.10:45
cobhcf82guys, does anyone know of a javascript IDE for eclipse in ubuntu karmic? I am not sure if jeclipse works on ubuntu.10:46
jadakrencobhcf82, aptana10:46
cobhcf82sorry not IDE, its SDK10:46
jadakrencobhcf82, you mean javascript gtk bindings ?10:46
cobhcf82jadakren: I have eclipse galileo, was wondering if I can can create javascript with that. I know jeclipse sdk let users build javascript with eclipse.10:47
zebastianubuntu on iphone touch?10:47
krautmoin10:47
jadakrencobhcf82, you don't compile javascript10:47
cobhcf82jadakren, but I would like some kind of sdk to complete lines etc.10:48
jadakrencobhcf82, aptana does this ( i dont know about or use eclipse )10:48
Guest99294can't(technically) ubuntu be on a itouch through the broches emu?10:48
Guest99294*can10:48
allisterIs there anyone who might be able to help me troubleshoot why ive been having some really bad video problems?10:48
cobhcf82jadakren: ok, then it should come in handy. I will look into downloading that. thanks mate.10:49
jadakrencobhcf82, http://www.aptana.org/studio/download10:49
cobhcf82jadakren: looks like they aptana has an eclipse plugin. this is great. :)10:50
Guest99294nvm10:50
indusallister: what is the output of lspci10:50
ShapeShifter499hi10:51
cobhcf82hello....10:51
riverbirdzebastian, nope10:52
zebastianriverbird: but i can use an iphone with my ubuntu os right tho? like transfer files from my laptop10:52
ShapeShifter499how do I back up my entire ubuntu system to another computer as a file(the dd command?) through ssh or other wireless connection? I need to do this cuz the computer with ubuntu needs to be fixed and I need to put win 7 on it to send it in10:53
nonexkswhat is the command to tell me what version of ubuntu is currently runing on a linux box10:53
DJones!version | nonexks10:53
JoeBorgI am a version 1.1.0 PyBorg10:53
ubottunonexks: To find out what version of Ubuntu you have, type « lsb_release -a » in a !shell - To know the available version of a package, « apt-cache policy <package> »10:53
stanley_robertsohi all10:53
nonexksty10:53
stanley_robertsoiam new to this ubuntu.. can somebody suggest me.. which channel i should go as a newebie ?10:54
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DJonesstanley_robertso: You're in the right channel, if you've got questions, just ask them10:54
stanley_robertsoi would like to contribute to ubuntu development.. is there any such facility ?10:54
nonexksok its runing 8..04 if i wanted to update to 9.10 is there a way to do that with out messing up any of my configs10:55
DJones!contibute | stanley_robertso10:55
stanley_robertsoDJones, i didnot get you10:55
dAlfa89_!contribute | stanley_robertso10:55
ubottustanley_robertso: To contribute and help out with Ubuntu, see http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate10:55
riverbirdzebastian, not really.  some pics+, no music tmk10:55
nonexks!ubuntu upgrade10:56
riverbirdzebastian, check the forums for detail10:56
dAlfa89_!upgrade | nonexks10:56
ubottunonexks: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading10:56
DJonesstanley_robertso: Ignore that, I thought that was the prod to get the bot to tell you how to get involved, but i spelt it wrong, dAlfa89_ got the right one10:56
atshi10:56
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jadakrennonexks, not if you haven't prepared properly for it prior to installing your current version10:56
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nonexksk ty10:56
acidhow to check last package being updated / upgraded ? is there any command to do so10:57
crushyhi10:57
DEViUShi to all, my ubuntu has become slow after i installed wine and some stuff from winetricks, can someone help me10:57
legend2440acid: open synaptic>file>history10:57
allisterindus: the output is giving alot of stuff10:57
acidlegend2440: thanks10:58
allisterindus: what exactly are you looking for?10:58
acidlegend2440: any command line for such ?10:58
legend2440acid: if there is i dont know it10:58
Ademanwhat's the pypy package name again?10:59
acidlegend2440: ok10:59
guestableasd11:01
DEViUShi to all, my ubuntu has become slow after i installed wine and some stuff from winetricks, can someone help me11:02
nonexksok so i dont see anything on that page about preparing upgrades11:03
riverbirdnonexks, i would wait. for 10.04 - you will be able to direct upgrade from 8.0411:03
nonexkshow long till that comes out11:03
riverbirdnonexks, to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10 you would have to upgrade through all the releases in between11:04
riverbirdnonexks, 10.04  aka 2010 april11:05
nonexksneet ... thanks11:05
riverbirdnonexks, de nada11:05
nonexkswell im out thanks for the info11:06
HaskellLovei installed itunes on ubuntu how do i turn it on now? where is it installed?11:07
HaskellLovei used wine11:07
CShadowRunHaskellLove: applications > wine > programs > itunes ?11:07
HaskellLoveCShadowRun>it is not there11:07
blinkizHi. I have problem installing the program Chandler from the deb file for jaunty. It complains it can not find "python-zopeinterface" in my ubuntu karmic installation. the package was renamed in karmic and is now !11:09
ardchoilleblinkiz: it's a very bad idea to mix releases packages like that11:09
blinkizHi. I have problem installing the program Chandler from the deb file for jaunty. It complains it can not find "python-zopeinterface" in my ubuntu karmic installation. the package was renamed in karmic and is now "python-zope.interface". How can I fix this without having to rebuild the deb package?11:10
ShapeShifter499how do I back up my entire ubuntu system to another computer as a file(the dd command?) through ssh or other wireless connection? I need to do this cuz the computer with ubuntu needs to be fixed and I need to put win 7 on it to send it in11:10
riverbirdi think we've been overrun by trolls ..11:10
steveire_I've just done sudo aptitude install libhibernate3-java{,-doc}11:10
steveire_But how do I actually get the docs now?11:10
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HaskellLovei installed itunes on ubuntu with wine how do i turn it on now? where is it installed?11:11
jianzhen3I wan't to run a program using command ,but when I put the program's name in the box,nothing was happened,what can I do?11:11
ardchoilleriverbird: you may be right :(11:12
crushyhow to setup networking in windows xen guest11:12
jianzhen3I find the programm's name was not the bin type file's name11:12
indusallister: hi11:13
indusallister: did you finish?11:13
riverbirdardchoille, hey look.  two real people and no real problems .. not bad11:13
HaskellLovei installed itunes on ubuntu with wine how do i turn it on now? where is it installed?11:13
ardchoillehehe11:13
potato2.h11:13
jianzhen3but how can I find the bin type file 's name ?11:13
jianzhen3can anyone help me?11:13
ardchoille!repeat11:14
indusjianzhen3: hello11:14
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.11:14
indusjianzhen3: what is this program11:14
allisterindus: I did it and restarted, and it is still having the same problem11:14
indusallister: did you install from hardware drivers?11:15
allisterindus: yes11:15
indusallister: show me a screenshot of the hardware drivers window11:15
indus!paste | allister11:15
ubottuallister: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic11:15
HaskellLovewhat is the ubuntu equal of this windows command: ipconfig /flushdns11:16
free_logout11:16
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Black_Phantomwhat is the most lightweight desktop envir. ?11:16
HaskellLovefree_?11:16
CShadowRunBlack_Phantom: maybe lxde or xfce11:16
larsaaBlack_Phantom: openbox11:16
ardchoilleBlack_Phantom: I would say xfce, but there are window managers that are even lighter, likfe openbox11:17
ardchoilles/likfe/like/11:17
DjAngo23Can I change the time a notification appears on the screen (i'm using Gnome, so it should be gnome-notify right ?)11:17
Black_Phantomcoz i have this crappy celeron11:17
ardchoilleBlack_Phantom: I use Window Maker, it's quite small and fast11:17
TeLLuSShapeShifter499: tar or dd or partImage or ddrescue. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/backup11:17
larsaaBlack_Phantom: enlightenment11:17
Black_Phantomlarsaa: enlightenment is lighter than openbox?11:18
ardchoilleBlack_Phantom: fluxbox is also quite popular11:18
Black_Phantomdamn there are many11:19
Spajderixhi11:19
ardchoilleBlack_Phantom: http://xwinman.org11:19
Spajderixdo you know any software that can emulate access point without Master mode in wireless device?11:19
jianzhen3indus: for example, the video player11:19
larsaaBlack_Phantom: nah, as ardchoille mentioned, openbox is just a window manager...11:19
jahyahoo11:20
jianzhen3for example,the vedio player11:20
Black_Phantomso what do you suggest for a dusty celeron ?11:20
jianzhen3indus:for example,the vedio player11:20
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ardchoilleBlack_Phantom: You really should try a few and see which works best for your needs11:21
Black_Phantomardchoille oh ok thanks man:)11:21
DjAngo23Can I change the time a notification appears on the screen (i'm using Gnome, so it should be gnome-notify right ?)11:22
Black_Phantomone more thing, i will just for example: apt-get install enlightement11:22
Black_Phantom?11:22
Black_Phantomand i will find them in the login screen options ?11:22
frogzooprobably11:23
blinkizHow do I remove a package without removing other packages that depends on that package? Yes, I know I will break things..11:23
allisterindus: did you recieve the link?11:23
ardchoilleBlack_Phantom: yes11:24
Black_Phantomcool thanks11:24
ardchoilleBlack_Phantom: Any desktops or window managers should put an option in the login screen sessions list11:24
ShapeShifter499TeLLuS: that link you gave, can I use dd_restore over a internet conection?11:24
ShapeShifter499TeLLuS: I mean dd_rescue11:25
ardchoilleBlack_Phantom: be aware that window managers, like fluxbox and enlightenment, are a bit different from full desktop environments like xfce or gnome11:25
Black_Phantomincase I didnt like them i will just switch back to gnome11:25
ardchoilleBlack_Phantom: your celeron will like window managers :)11:26
Black_Phantomlol:)11:26
TED111222zzzzzzzzz11:28
TED111222zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz11:28
SeveasTED111222, WAKE UP! :P11:29
ardchoilleTED111222: Please stop11:29
TED111222hihihihih11:29
TED111222i got bored11:29
SeveasTED111222, www.bash.org is a cure for the bored. See also what ubottu is about to say11:29
darehi, I just installed the nautilus-dbg package but 'gdb nautilus' says debug symbols still not found11:29
Seveas!ot | TED11122211:29
ubottuTED111222: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!11:29
TED111222ok, question:11:30
gphello my laptop Mother board just went off ...how do i recover my data11:30
TED111222anyone have experience in opengts11:30
TED111222?11:30
docmaxhello, where do i set default filetype associations?11:30
gpi was using ecryptfs11:31
docmaxhello, where do i set default programs for filetype?11:31
gpmy home directory was encrypted11:31
ardchoilledocmax: right click a file, choose Properties, go to the "Open With" tab and set it11:31
gpPL HELP !! to recoovrer my data11:31
docmaxi can choose "open with..." but cannot set anything permanently11:31
jpdsgp: Backup?11:32
gpno backup unfortunately11:32
gpbut hdd is working11:32
TED111222gp: run the live cd and try to get your data back11:32
gphow11:32
gp??11:32
aaron11Amaranth: Its not good to stay ops all the time as freenode says11:32
TED111222download ubuntu and burn it on a disc11:32
docmaxardchoille, ?11:33
TED111222plug the disc in your disc drive11:33
yaccJust wondering, has anyone why my system sometimes does not start all services?11:33
gphow do i recover data from encrypted home directory ?????????11:33
dareaaron11: indeed, persistent op status is as dangerous as "sudo su"!!11:33
gphow how how11:33
yaccI've noticed that when I manage to start all crypt discs, it starts up fine.11:33
darei.e. not very =p11:33
yaccIf I do not manage to start all crypt discs in time, I get a gdm session, but for example mysql, tor, ... are not running.11:34
gpplease in the name of giant pand help me11:34
yaccgp: you have the key?11:34
gpwhat key11:34
sealiveHi quest over wubi  can i install kubuntu offline  what cd do i need to do so11:34
yaccAnd no text mode gettys running either.11:34
yaccgp: well the key that was used to encrypt your data?11:35
aaron11dare: Lol! Maybey he is on his mad side11:35
gpmaybe11:35
NickRivieraHI EVERYBODY!11:35
yaccif you have, then just use it. If no, then no, there is no way to restore your data.11:35
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docmaxhow do i set default programs for filetypes? i can choose "open with..." but cannot set anything *permanently* - any ideas?11:36
gpwhen inserted the harddisk into another system ...it asked to me to run ecrypts-private-mout that asked me for password11:36
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NickRivieraI have a rather noob question... I've noticed many services run under their own user/group; but when I look in the User Settings, I cannot see those users. I can see the groups, but no users. Why?11:36
kinja-sheepdocmax: Right-click on the file and change settings in Properties.11:36
yaccNickmman, system users.11:36
yaccNickRiviera, system users.11:36
sealivesomeone can help me with some basics over wubi11:36
yaccNickmman, sorry, wrongly tabbed.11:37
gpi entered password but it gave messege like inserted some in keyring etc11:37
gpbut didnt mount anything11:37
NickRivierayaaar, I immagined that. And how are they flagged 'system'? How can I manage them?11:37
yaccgp can you click on it in Nautilus?11:37
NickRivierayaaar, np11:37
yaccNickRiviera, you do not manage them, usually, and they are flagged by having a low uid.11:38
gpno my system boot in readonly file system11:38
yaccNickRiviera, the system manages them by itself.11:38
gpso i got read only root shell access11:38
yaccgp: then you need to fix that first.11:38
yaccgp: why did it boot into readonly mode only?11:38
gpits gives some ecrypt error then boots into root shell11:38
yaccIs there a way to increase the time the system waits for the root filesystem and others?11:38
NickRivierayacc, Ok, suppose I need to change the user under which mysql runs (from mysql to sql). Is that too much of a hassle?11:38
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yaccNickRiviera, Why would you want that to do?11:39
NickRivierayacc  I don't, but suppose I did.11:39
yaccNickRiviera, And yes, it's almost not worth it, because all kinds of system scripts will probably break.11:39
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devDwhenever I try to install anything it shows this http://is.gd/5pQKl11:39
NickRivierayacc, since they all know mysql runs under user mysql...11:39
Stormcr0wHi everyone. I have upgraded from 8.10 to 9.10 and my usplash screen has stayed the same. How can I upgrade it, so that it displays the latest official usplash screen?11:40
NjAHello, im building a ATi Radeon driver http://ccite.dk/xorg.conf but i cant get compiz to work any suggestions11:40
yaccNickRiviera, exactly, all packages that need to have their own user manage them with the provided automatic tools.11:40
ActionParsnip1yo yo yo11:40
NickRivierayacc, is it possible to login as one such user?11:40
docmaxkinja-sheep, thanks11:41
NickRivierayacc for instance, login as mysql?11:41
yaccNickRiviera, sudo su -s /bin/sh mysql11:41
yaccbut no, usually you cannot just login into such users.11:41
NickRivierayacc can you break that down?11:41
yaccsudo => get root11:41
NjAhttp://ccite.dk/xorg.conf - No compiz, any suggestions11:41
yaccsu change user11:41
NickRivierathose I knew... ;)11:42
yacc-s /bin/sh => user that shell (because most system users have no shell by default)11:42
yaccmysql => which user.11:42
NickRivieraahhh!11:42
yaccAnyway to increase the timeout for the rootfs?11:42
ViaNocturna85NjA: which version of Ubuntu?11:42
erUSULyacc: there is a boot option to change that..11:43
yaccerUSUL, details?11:43
gpyacc: while booting i get error ...error inserting padlock_sha11:43
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Stormcr0wHi everyone. I have upgraded from 8.10 to 9.10 and my usplash screen has stayed the same. How can I upgrade it, so that it displays the latest official usplash screen?11:43
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gpafter it enters read only root partition11:44
devDwhenever I try to install anything it shows this http://is.gd/5pQKl11:44
erUSULyacc: looking it up ... there are two. "rootwait" waits forever. rootdelay=[seconds]11:44
yaccgp: yeah, you've got a problem with modules and so on, you need to fix the problem with your readonly rootfs and the root shell first.11:44
erUSULyacc: the last one should be obvious11:44
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NickRivierayacc: two more questions: 1) Are users/permissions/groups in Ubuntu too different from other *nix flavours? 2) Where should I look to learn more about users / permissions / groups for linux in general and/or ubuntu???11:44
gpyacc :how11:44
stanley_robertsohi all11:45
erUSULNickRiviera: linux is posix. like many other unix. the security model is the same. there are posix ACL11:45
yaccNickRiviera, google, only thing is that Ubuntu like Debian defaults to "each user has it's own group", (google that too if you wonder why), ...11:45
gpyacc: how do i fix my problem11:45
gppl tell me11:45
batasandevD: try "sudo apt-get -f install"11:45
yaccgp, well, padlock_sha is not the reason why you drop into a root shell.11:45
TeLLuSShapeShifter499: ddrescue can write to a file and if you mount a remote server you can save the file on it over the network. same as most of the commands11:46
yaccgp, you do have already readonly access to your root filesystem?11:46
gpyes11:46
yaccyou know what your root device is?11:46
ActionParsnip1devD: sudo apt-get -f install11:46
yaccgp: fsck /dev/YOUR_ROOT_DEVICE11:46
devDbatasan, ActionParsnip1 I have tried that too and the result is http://is.gd/5pQNP11:46
NickRivierayacc, yeah I noticed that... doesn't happen on Red Hat...11:46
gpYOUR_ROOT_DEVICE == sda ?11:47
yaccNickRiviera, if you want to figure for yourself, lookup umask and what setgid does when set on directories.11:47
yaccsda is the whole disc.11:47
ActionParsnip1devD: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/splashy_0.3.13-5ubuntu1_i386.deb; sudo apt-get -f install11:47
NickRivieraAlso, I'm consufed as to why users have a 'main group' with their own name (or rather username) and when you 'manage groups', the user himself isnt't ticked inside his own group...11:47
devDActionParsnip1, ok11:47
yaccgp, /sbin/fdisk -l /dev/sda should give you the partions on your disc.11:47
ActionParsnip1devD: please log a bug for plashy_0.3.13-5ubuntu1_i386.deb as there is a duplicate file11:47
yaccOk, need to reboot.11:47
devDok11:48
HaskellLovepozic i got jaunty11:48
ActionParsnip1devD: the lne:  trying to overwrite '/etc/lsb-base-logging.sh', which is also in package lsb-base 0:4.0-0ubuntu5    should also go in the bug, so it can be worked out11:48
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HaskellLovepozic it did not work, maybe another command11:49
ActionParsnip1devD: the same file from the splashy deb will now go over the same file which is already on your system, dpkg just doesnt like overwriting stuff11:49
ActionParsnip1devD: so we use the force to say its ok to do so11:49
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ShapeShifter499TeLLuS: ok11:49
NickRivierayacc so when I manase my user, atannus, my main group is atannus, but when I manage group atannus, my user 'Andre Tannus' isn't ticked in that group....  that causes my brain to hurt.11:49
devDActionParsnip1, ok , but I need to understand all carefully for filing bug report as I am a new user of GNU/Linux.11:49
ActionParsnip1devD: this is one of the weaknesss in package systems11:50
devDActionParsnip1, ya11:50
ActionParsnip1!bug | devD11:50
ubottudevD: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots11:50
darehm, lame.. the nautilus-dbg package is broken11:50
dare(nautilus:6583): Eel-CRITICAL **: eel_preferences_get_boolean: assertion `preferences_is_initialized ()' failed11:50
ActionParsnip1dare: log a bug11:50
darei'm too lazy :O11:50
ActionParsnip1dare: then it wont get fixed11:50
HaskellLovehow to flush dns on jaunty?11:51
allisterindus: still no change11:51
ActionParsnip1HaskellLove: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart11:51
ActionParsnip1HaskellLove: if you use dnsmasq as a local dns, change networking to dnsmasq in that command to flush your local dns server11:52
ActionParsnip1devD: better now?11:53
dareActionParsnip1: there's already 792 unfixed bugs.. doubt mine will be fixed in my lifetime =p11:53
HaskellLoveIf you are seeing this page, you are on the old server. Try clearing your browser cache and restarting your modem/router. Or you can open Command Prompt, and type in: ipconfig /flushdns Then retry. Thanks I still get this from the euler project page man <ActionParsnip111:53
devDActionParsnip1, ya its fine now. I am filing a bug too11:53
ActionParsnip1dare: theres a lot more than that, your report will verify or add a new bug. If everybody had your mentality, nothing would get fixed11:54
ActionParsnip1devD: cool :)11:54
ActionParsnip1HaskellLove: ipconfig is a windows command11:54
HaskellLoveActionParsnip1>i know man what is ubuntu equal11:54
batasanHaskellLove: ifconfig11:55
ActionParsnip1HaskellLove: restart networking and all DNS' will be forgotten11:55
||arifaXwhere does network-manager store the connection configuration files?11:56
HaskellLoveRestarting Name Service Cache Daemon nscd well i do this : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-clearflush-dns-cache-in-ubuntu.html and i get the restarting message above bla bla11:56
ActionParsnip1HaskellLove: you could add the openDNS or googleDNS servers to your config rather than using your ISPs11:56
dareActionParsnip1: I cannot report bug as I am not a launchpad member :(11:56
MaSSaSlaYeRhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff#Step%201:%20All%20BCM43xx%20-%20Install%20NDISWrapper%20and%20Blacklist%20Native%20Driver that didn't work what else can i try?11:57
ActionParsnip1dare: accounts are free11:57
dareActionParsnip1: I don't want to be a launchpad member11:57
ActionParsnip1HaskellLove: ubuntugeek rocks11:57
ActionParsnip1dare: ok i'll log it11:57
HaskellLoveActionParsnip1>how?11:57
jpds||arifaX: ~/.gconf/system/networking11:57
HaskellLoveActionParsnip1 yeah but that does not work for me i still have same issue11:58
indusallister: hi11:58
||arifaXjpds: and if I installed network-manager in kde and configured a connection with it where is the file (I needed to look up som info)11:58
jpds||arifaX: No idea.11:59
MaSSaSlaYeRNeeding help with: BCM4312 (rev 01) Still not working11:59
||arifaXjpds: got it /root/.gconf/system/networking11:59
ActionParsnip1HaskellLove: then the dns is not causing the issue11:59
||arifaXjpds: thanks for your tip12:00
dareActionParsnip1: I see it was reported and fixed here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/454234 but they forgot to patch the dbg package too12:00
ActionParsnip1devD: its already logged and confirmed a billion times: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/splashy/+bug/32808912:00
HaskellLovei get this, should i click ok ? but how i try TAB but nothing... http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/540/screenshoty.png ActionParsnip112:01
ActionParsnip1HaskellLove: looks good, no errors12:01
HaskellLoveActionParsnip1>that means it has flushed?12:01
MaSSaSlaYeRNeeding help with: BCM4312 (rev 01) Still not working12:03
jpds!repeat | MaSSaSlaYeR12:03
ubottuMaSSaSlaYeR: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.12:03
ActionParsnip1HaskellLove: indeed12:03
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HaskellLoveActionParsnip1>so why do i have problems with eulerproject.net12:03
MaSSaSlaYeRdid that12:04
MaSSaSlaYeRi posted topic12:04
iceroot_!broadcom | MaSSaSlaYeR12:04
ubottuMaSSaSlaYeR: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx12:04
ActionParsnip1dare: either way its llogged which is good, you should add that you confirm the bug if its not marked as confirmed12:04
isolat3dsh33pGuys, I have an Acer laptop, there's an extra key on the laptop that does not work, 2 extra buttons actually, how can I enable them? Btw, my laptop is Acer Aspire 4535.12:04
ActionParsnip1!shortcut | isolat3dsh33p12:04
ubottuisolat3dsh33p: Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts12:04
abhi_hello12:04
abhi_howdy?12:05
iceroot_abhi_: we can help you with an ubuntu-problem?12:05
MaSSaSlaYeRiceroot_  i installed it12:05
abhi_iceroot_:ya12:05
MaSSaSlaYeRstill not working12:05
ArasTaHet guys12:06
ArasTahey12:06
iceroot_!doesntwork | MaSSaSlaYeR12:06
ubottuMaSSaSlaYeR: Doesn't work is a strong statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Is it on IRC all the time? Please be specific! Examples of what doesn't work tend to help too.12:06
abhi_i need a good download manager for ubuntu like IDM12:06
ArasTai wanna know how to recompile the kernel of my ubuntu12:06
iceroot_abhi_: wget12:06
ActionParsnip1abhi_: gwget12:06
dareActionParsnip1: ic, I shall challenge the status:   Triaged → Fix Released12:06
ArasTaso that i put the last version of kernel12:06
abhi_what about the speed?12:06
isolat3dsh33pActionParsnip1: It's not multimedia keys, does the workaround still apply?12:06
abhi_i hav uget installed12:06
ActionParsnip1!kernel | ArasTa12:06
ubottuArasTa: The core of the Ubuntu Operating System is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, but if you're convinced you do, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile - See also: /msg ubottu stages12:07
devDif I want to run several command should I separate them through a ;12:07
iceroot_abhi_: speed depending on your connection of course12:07
ActionParsnip1isolat3dsh33p: try it, quick fix rocks :)12:07
abhi_ya, i know12:07
ArasTaActionParsnip1, u rock brotha :D12:07
xoverHow can make a xmodmap run on entering X?12:07
iceroot_devD: each after another? only if the command befire was running succesfull or run them as thread?12:07
ActionParsnip1devD: only if you don't mind if the previos command passed or not, if the next command needs the previous one to pass use '&&'12:07
abhi_what about gwget?12:07
iceroot_abhi_: try it12:08
abhi_is it better than uget?12:08
iceroot_!best | abhi_12:08
ubottuabhi_: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.12:08
ActionParsnip1abhi_: there is no better, or best12:08
sasasasasasasasatesttest12:08
iceroot_abhi_: btw wget is the best12:08
MaSSaSlaYeRiceroot_:  it doesnt show in ifconfig i've lost my other interface with my wired network  and now i'm desperate...12:08
abhi_ya12:08
ActionParsnip1abhi_: try them to see what YOU like, then stick with the one YOU like12:08
lillemanI can no longer expand my folders in the list view... nothing happends when I click the little arrow. Anyone else with the same problem?12:08
abhi_but wget is CLI12:08
abhi_actually i want something GUI12:08
ActionParsnip1abhi_: gwget has a gnome frontend12:08
iceroot_abhi_: gwget12:09
Aciidxover: touch /home/$USER/.config/gnome/autostart/xmodmap && echo "xmodmap" > /home/$USER/.config/gnome/autostart/xmodmap12:09
Aciidtry that12:09
abhi_ya12:09
abhi_i must try it12:09
ActionParsnip1abhi_: or there jdownloader12:09
iceroot_abhi_: sudo apt-get install gwget12:09
zambawhat has happened to unionsfs in karmic?12:09
abhi_Jdownloader?12:09
abhi_is it depends on jre?12:09
ActionParsnip1abhi_: its another downloader app12:09
ActionParsnip1abhi_: sure does12:09
isolat3dsh33pActionParsnip1: I download from the website, when I run the deb installer, it says there's a later version in the software channel. Does this means I can apt-get install it?12:09
abhi_hmm12:09
theadminHello. I'd like to use gpg to decrypt a file. But I want to put output in another file. Uh... will the ">" do it?12:09
iceroot_Aciid: using ~ instead of /home/$USER/   its shorter :)12:09
devDActionParsnip1, ok understood12:10
abhi_which one is lightweight?12:10
ActionParsnip1abhi_: you are using an OS with LOTS of posibilities and choices12:10
abhi_i love ubuntu12:10
ActionParsnip1abhi_: wget is as light as it comes12:10
iceroot_theadmin: > is puttint the complete output to a file  stderr and stdout12:10
MaSSaSlaYeRiceroot_:  any tips ?12:10
Aciidiceroot_: that was just something to guide the user. I don't even recall does that work or was it the right path12:10
ActionParsnip1abhi_: so find out whats available and try a few rather than relying on strangers to tell you what to think12:10
Aciidbut thats how u solve it12:10
iceroot_MaSSaSlaYeR: not enough details12:10
xoveraciid i dont have a gnome directory12:11
iceroot_Aciid: ah ok, didnt see that12:11
abhi_i want to shift to ubuntu permanently12:11
iceroot_!ot | abhi_12:11
ubottuabhi_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!12:11
ActionParsnip1abhi_: cool12:11
abhi_okk12:11
NickRivierayacc, u back!12:11
_Nacho_good morning guys12:12
isolat3dsh33pActionParsnip1: Installed it using apt-get, thanks for the help dude :D12:12
abhi_another question, is there any alternative of adobe illustrator in ubuntu?12:12
ShapeShifter499g2g12:12
frogzoogimp?12:12
Aciidxover: .xinitrc?12:12
iceroot_abhi_: gimp and inkscape12:12
iceroot_abhi_: inkscape is using svg12:13
abhi_i hav gimp, its like photoshop12:13
erUSULabhi_: inkscape or xaralx12:13
abhi_i need something like illustrator12:13
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erUSUL!info inkscape12:14
ubottuinkscape (source: inkscape): vector-based drawing program. In component main, is optional. Version 0.47~pre4-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 18961 kB, installed size 82608 kB12:14
iceroot_abhi_: as i said, inkscape12:14
erUSUL!info xaralx12:14
ubottuxaralx (source: xaralx): Heavyweight vector graphics, illustration and DTP Program. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 0.7r1785-2ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 4462 kB, installed size 11372 kB12:14
xoverAciid: can i just create a startup script in ~/home/.config/autostart/12:14
betlogquestion: re: evdev and generic 5 button mice... theres an awful lot of info on this, mainly old, and mainly pertaining to MS intellimouse... is there a newish and relatively authorative link to a 'how to' that makes it easy to understand and do? Does this kind of tinker usually work regardless of what kind of mouse it is? .. should i even bother or is it generally a PITA?12:14
Aciidxover: yes12:14
abhi_iceroot_ & erusul: thnz12:14
Aciidxover: depending on your window manager12:14
abhi_i must try them both12:14
Aciidxover: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Startup_files this article lists all possibilities12:14
xoverhow do i determine window manager?12:15
xoverim using compiz-fusion, is that the window manager?12:15
erUSULxover: yes12:15
isolat3dsh33pActionParsnip1: My laptop model is not in the list D:12:15
abhi_well12:15
xoverok, think that dir is correct, trying now, BRB12:15
Aciidxover: window manager, is said when u login12:16
Aciidits on the bottom12:16
Aciidon the dropdown12:16
Aciidon ubuntu12:16
FloodBot2Aciid: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.12:16
ActionParsnip1isolat3dsh33p: not sure then, have you websearched you laptop model in conjunction with ubuntu12:16
abhi_i hav an Acer aspire one laptop with intel Atom processor, can i use ubuntu in it?12:16
iceroot_Aciid: you dont mean window-manager, you mean desktop-environment for startup-scripts12:16
AciidI use enter a s apunctuation I'm europian12:16
zambawhere did unionfs go to in karmic?12:16
ActionParsnip1isolat3dsh33p: folks are really good at posting guides for how to setup linux on specific laptop models12:16
abhi_it has windows XP pre-installed12:16
howlingmadhowieabhi_: should work :)12:16
xoveroh course, its gdm12:16
Aciidiceroot_: tell it to him, not me.12:16
jveHi, Whats the difference between normal mod and recovery mode?12:17
Aciidxover: thats just the login manager =D12:17
xoverso whats the window manger12:17
Aciidxover: in gdm, the bottom says which desktop enviroment u use for login12:17
Aciidby default12:17
Aciidits gnome12:17
iceroot_xover: important is if you are using kde, gnome, xfce4 for using startup not compiz or something else12:17
abhi_ubuntu-netbook-remix or main version?12:17
erUSULjve: recovery mode boots into single mode + a curses menu12:17
iceroot_!startup | xover12:17
ubottuxover: To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot12:17
ActionParsnip1Aciid: ease up on the enter dude, its scrolling the channel and isnt fair to other users12:17
abhi_which one work best?12:17
jveok thanks12:17
iceroot_!enter | abhi_12:17
ubottuabhi_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!12:17
lao5abhi_: i dont know12:17
ActionParsnip1abhi_: again, there is no best12:17
AciidActionParsnip1: ok sorry.12:18
zamba!unionfs12:18
ActionParsnip1abhi_: try both see which you like12:18
abhi_hmm12:18
zambathis worked perfectly fine in jaunty, but it has been removed in karmic...?12:18
lao5Aciid: thats ok12:18
abhi_Atom processor in slow12:18
isolat3dsh33pActionParsnip1: Huwm, you mean google? Haha... How about installing the keytouch-editor?12:18
abhi_:(12:18
ActionParsnip1abhi_: with software there is NEVER a best, the differences in user requirements is huge so the best for one will be the worst for another12:18
iceroot_abhi_: again!!! dont use enter so much12:18
ActionParsnip1isolat3dsh33p: no i use websearch., I think telling people to "google"stuff is immature12:18
abhi_i'm sending msg. using enter12:19
zambai don't get how they can do something like this..?12:19
strangehey guys i've followed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing and now my internet connection doesnt work at all how do i disable the steps in there?12:19
abhi_what can i do?12:19
isolat3dsh33pActionParsnip1: You have a point there, google has become the new yahoo.12:19
iceroot_abo_: write everything in one line and dont flood the channel with so many lines :)12:20
ActionParsnip1isolat3dsh33p: no, i just recognise that other engines exist and that not everyone uses google exclusively12:20
MindSparkhi, i have a problem, startup takes around 15 minutes12:20
MindSparkcan someone tell me what to look for ?12:20
ActionParsnip1MindSpark: reboot then once you et to desktop run: dmesg | less12:20
MASARUwotaMindSpark: did it use to be quicker?12:20
ActionParsnip1MindSpark: read the left colomn, if you get any large gaps in time. there is your issue12:21
isolat3dsh33pActionParsnip1: Ok, :)12:21
hyperstream!flash12:21
ubottuTo install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash12:21
MASARUwotaanyone got a list of the !triggers for this channel :p12:22
MASARUwota?12:22
CShadowRun!factoid12:22
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots12:22
CShadowRunMASARUwota: ^12:22
sasasasasasasasa:12:22
grinkchillinfo: http://wiki.buntu.com/UbuntuBots12:23
MASARUwotak. thx12:23
MaSSaSlaYeRiceroot_:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8507786#post850778612:23
iceroot_MaSSaSlaYeR: sorry dont have an x-server here12:23
MaSSaSlaYeRok12:23
MaSSaSlaYeRiceroot_:  can you receive pm's?12:24
Huckhi guys12:24
iceroot_MaSSaSlaYeR: yes but i dont like to, sorry, post the question to the channel in one line wih details12:24
MindSparkok, looks like a hard disk issue :S12:24
MaSSaSlaYeRiceroot_:  it's the post i've made12:24
MaSSaSlaYeRok then w812:24
ActionParsnip1isolat3dsh33p: i get a tonne of my results from ask.com   jeeves is a great wingman12:24
MASARUwotaEcosia.org user here =)12:25
MASARUwota!test12:25
ubottuyes, I'm alive.12:25
MASARUwota=)12:25
Huck2 days ago my Skype start to crash when i open it, but i dont received none error, only like this: Skype --->open---> appears the window of Skype and crash....someone can help me?12:25
MaSSaSlaYeRiceroot_: I've tried to install the Wireless with Jockey-KDE , ndiswrapper, and try to run the drivers from the website still no good. There isn't any interfaces popping up, and i see nothing that has to do with wireless. not even Network Manager I'm running Ubuntu Server with the Xfce4 xfce4-goodies interface.12:25
MindSparkdmesg output http://pastebin.com/m20c97fe812:26
nic3i get the error " greeter application appears to be crashing" does anyone know abt this?12:26
MindSparkdoes this mean my hd is busted ? or does it just need a fsck or do I need to tweak bios ?12:26
jadakrenHuck, run skype from the terminal and copy the resulting errors that appear then paste them on pastebin, then give url here12:27
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jadakren!pastebin | huck12:27
ubottuhuck: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic12:27
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isolat3dsh33pActionParsnip1: I'm just too used to google. *sighs*12:27
jianzhen3it's a where12:28
scaivyhello tout le monde quelqun a t'il un peu de temps a me consacré sur un probleme de permission de dossier svp12:28
ardchoille!fr | scaivy12:28
ubottuscaivy: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr12:28
jianzhen3wrong place,sorry12:28
grinkchillLEAVE12:29
ActionParsnip1isolat3dsh33p: your call dude12:30
isolat3dsh33pActionParsnip1: :-)12:30
Huckjadakren now i have not installed skype12:32
Hucki did sudo apt-get remove skype and now i cant install again12:32
jadakrenHuck, one question : did you recently do some system updates from a sytem tray icon ?12:32
DjAngo23What is a good twitter client on ubuntu ?12:33
Huckyep12:33
Hucksure12:33
MASARUwotaDjAngo23: http://www.sizlopedia.com/2008/05/03/twitter-clients-for-ubuntu-linux/12:33
Hucki update yesterday morning , but my problems start 2 days ago12:33
Huckbefore the update12:33
remoteCTRL1can anyone recommend me a gnome app that accesses the webcam (also offline) and that i can take snapshots with from the webcam?12:33
jadakrenHuck, and have you restarted your machine since then ? ( i mean did you experience the errors with skype after updating system? )12:34
DjAngo23MASARUwota: thats from 2008 maybee ther are some new ones12:34
Huckyep i restart my machine12:34
the_cyber_guyi have intel 4500mhd graphics and when i enable compiz i get weird window borders pls help12:34
Huckhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/342663/12:34
Hucknow if i do it SUDO APT GET-INSTALL SKYPE i get this error12:35
jadakrenHuck, ok. you are aware that when a new kernel is installed that any errors experiences between then and the next system restart are most likely a result of the new kernel needing to re-introduce itself to the sytem (which happens at restart)12:35
burghello. when i click on the network icon from the top panel, in 9.10, it sais on wired networks: device not managed. how can i make it to manage my wired networks too?12:35
jadakrenHuck, sorry i can only read english unfortunatly12:35
Huckyep i know sorry too...12:36
Huckbut if install again skype what can i do?12:36
jadakrenHuck, did you use that command to install skype ?12:37
Huckyep, sudo apt-get install skype12:37
ActionParsnip1!skype | huck12:37
ubottuhuck: To install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga12:37
jadakrenHuck, also (since i do not have suck a package by that name) i assume you are getting this package from a non-standard repository ?12:38
jadakrensuch*12:38
Gwince|WorkHuck: also, the command would be sudo apt-get install skype12:38
jadakrenHuck, once you have skype installed come back for some more help of getting a decent error log12:39
Hucki have installed medibuntu repository in 9.04 and yesterday i re-installed again12:41
Huckbut skype still dont work for install12:41
xaqubzhi12:41
Hucki tried to download in skype.com the .deb package but when finish the installation skype start and crash12:42
remoteCTRL1does anybody know an app to record from webcam?12:42
xaqubzi have prob with emesene signing any body there to help me12:42
jadakrenHuck, you have it installed yet?12:42
Hucknope12:42
Hucknow i have remove all about skype12:43
jadakrenHuck, can;t do much without a decent error report12:43
Dr_WillisremoteCTRL1:  cheese can do that i belive12:43
Huckok12:43
Hucki tried to translate12:43
remoteCTRL1Dr_Willis: uhuh thanks :)12:43
jadakrenHuck, it's ok i translated you previous pastebin with google .12:43
Hucka ok12:44
jadakrenHuck, but you are still having the problem of a non-existant skype package yes ?12:44
Huckyep12:44
remoteCTRL1Dr_Willis: ok that one can take snapshots, happen to know one that can record also?12:44
mattisHow can I view all versions available of a package in the package repository?12:44
remoteCTRL1Dr_Willis: oh me blind it can record, thanks!12:45
jadakrenHuck, is it safe to assume you are using karmic (9.10) ?12:45
kickarhey what do i need to open psd images?12:45
burgnobody can help me>12:45
burg?12:45
jadakrenkickar, gimp is sufficent12:46
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Hucksafe mode?12:46
jadakrenHuck, no i mean the version of ubuntu you are using ? it is 9.10 yes ?12:46
kickarjadakren,  nope .. Error loading PSD file: Unsupported color mode: CMYK12:46
Huckyes yes 9.1012:46
brian24HELLO12:46
jadakrenkickar, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/223038/using-a-cmyk-psd-without-photoshop12:47
brian24QUIEN TIENE MANUAL SAMBA PARA UBUNTU12:47
steveireI have installed apache2. Where is the  Apache "httpd.conf" file?12:47
howlingmadhowiesteveire: /etc/apache212:47
betlogquestion: re: evdev and generic 5 button mice... theres an awful lot of info on this, mainly old, and mainly pertaining to MS intellimouse... is there a newish and relatively authorative link to a 'how to' that makes it easy to understand and do? Does this kind of tinker usually work regardless of what kind of mouse it is? .. should i even bother or is it generally a PITA?12:47
steveirethanks12:47
roofhi12:48
roofI deleted /dev/sda2 and recreated it using fdisk, this was my swap partition, which i had disabled prior to deleting, now my system wont boot, why is that?12:48
howlingmadhowiesteveire: why do you need it btw? if you just want a lamp server, that should all work automatically12:48
jadakrenHuck, can you open the text file : /etc/apt/sources.list and paste the single line here that mentions "medibuntu"12:48
berrybarryI was trying to get to my router page on firefox I entered ifconfig -a .... but none of the ip's work.... am I doing something wrong?12:48
kickarjadakren,  thanks man12:49
Huckok sure what i must write in terminal? sudo gedit?12:49
howlingmadhowieberrybarry: ifconfig -a will tell you the ip addresses of your network interfaces, not the address of the router12:49
boomernang!sp | brian2412:49
ctrlesc?12:49
jadakrenHuck, gksudo gedti /etc/apt/sources.list12:49
jadakrengedit*12:50
berrybarryhowlingmadhowie .... whats the command to get ip of router?12:50
howlingmadhowieberrybarry: you can find the router ip address by entering 'route'12:50
berrybarryok thx12:50
berrybarry:)12:50
Huckty so much jadakren12:50
Psinetichow can i kill an application with the process id?12:51
roofguys does grub install to MBR or does MBR look for active partition?12:52
boomernang!es | brian2412:52
ubottubrian24: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.12:52
howlingmadhowieberrybarry: or you can have a look in /etc/resolv.conf   the domain name server is kept there and most routers pretend to be domain name servers too12:52
HaskellLovehow many times has ubuntu crashed on you and you had to format the pc and lose  files?12:52
Huckhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/342669/12:52
howlingmadhowieHaskellLove: i don't think ubuntu has ever done that to me :)12:53
Sumpenhey guys! Im about to install Ubuntu 9.1 on a ThinkPad with a Intel Core 2 Duo processor. When I switch to 64-bit version on Ubintu download page, the file name when downloading is: ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64. Does this mean its wrong version ( for AMD processors ) or is it just a confusing file name? Thx in advance.12:53
howlingmadhowieSumpen: it's the right disk12:53
llutzSumpen: amd64 is intel 64bit too12:53
HaskellLovehowlingmadhowie so being a programmer and having like lots of files i should not worry of losing anything?12:53
Sumpenhowlingmadhowie and llutz; thx guys!12:54
steveirehowlingmadhowie: I'm using django, not php12:54
howlingmadhowieSumpen: basically, AMD created the 64 bit extensions to the intel i86 architecture, so people often still refer to it as AMD6412:54
llutzSumpen: just avoid loading ia64 ;)12:54
alankilaamd64 is amd's revenge. In the past you used to put i386 into every system, including amd processors...12:54
Sumpen< googling ia6412:55
howlingmadhowieHaskellLove: well, there are always hardware faults and there could be bugs i don't know about12:55
burghello. when i click on the network icon from the top panel, in 9.10, it sais on wired networks: device not managed. how can i make it to manage my wired networks too?12:55
howlingmadhowieHaskellLove: so best to back things up :)12:55
HaskellLovehowlingmadhowie>how?12:55
HaskellLoveor you mean backup put on another disk12:55
Huckjadekran did u see my last pastebin?12:55
howlingmadhowieHaskellLove: that depends.  i use an external harddrive and sometimes a usbkey.  that's all i need12:56
psicobrahi all i am running 9.10 and have an ATI 4830 graphics card i run the restricted driver tool and it tells me it has the driver but it's not activated when i click activate nothing happens any help?12:56
HaskellLovehowlingmadhowie>ok bitch thanks12:56
howlingmadhowieHaskellLove: i used to use a streamer as well, but i don't have a desktop computer any longer12:56
psicobraati!12:56
psicobra!ati12:56
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto12:57
kryl99free12:57
howlingmadhowiepsicobra: when you press activate, the driver gets downloaded in the background. this can take some time.12:57
Huck!skype12:57
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga12:57
psicobrahowlingmadhowie, so it doesnt pop up with somehting telling me it's downloading?12:58
howlingmadhowiepsicobra: i don't think it does. that's a bug in this program, because it really should do.12:58
psicobraok will leave it and see what happens thanks12:59
howlingmadhowiepsicobra: so basically you just press activate and wait for a while :(12:59
psicobrak will do12:59
howlingmadhowiepsicobra: if all goes well it will say "you need to restart to activate this driver". but that could take a number of minutes on a broadband connection12:59
roofi think my MBR is fucked, how do i fix this people?12:59
psicobranp thanks12:59
MASARUwotaroof,reinstall grub12:59
Dr_Willisroof:  reinstall the boot loader/grub you need to use.13:00
Dr_Willis!grub13:00
ubottugrub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before Karmic (9.10). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards.13:00
MASARUwota!grub213:00
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub213:00
roofthe thing i dont understand is why deleting my swap partition would effect the boot process?13:00
ActionParsnip1roof: provided you use UUIDs it should be ok13:01
roofis the new partition i created now set as bootable, if so, how do i set the other partition as bootable13:01
ActionParsnip1roof: check the uUISs you are using13:01
Dr_Willisroof:  the order of the disks could have changed. and perhaps the uuid;s deoending on what you did13:01
howlingmadhowieroof: i don't think grub needs the disk to be set as bootable.13:01
roofi dont even get the grub boot loader coming ip i get "no bootable disk - please insert and reboot"13:02
howlingmadhowieroof: you can toggle the bootable flag by using fdisk, but make sure you have a good tutorial or guide before doing so13:02
ActionParsnip1roof: boot to liveCD and you can diagnose13:02
howlingmadhowieroof: oh, then you need to reinstall grub13:02
roofim in livecd now, but not sure whats happened13:02
Goliathdo i need those?13:02
Goliath[15:02] <Goliath> orbit2-2.14.17-1   startup-notification-0.10-113:02
Goliath[15:02] <Goliath> pyorbit-2.24.0-213:02
roofis grub installed to MBR or is it chainloaded from primary boot loader?13:03
howlingmadhowieroof: it's chainloaded13:03
Goliathdo i need any of those? http://pastebin.com/m732b477d13:03
JuJuBeeAnybody know the syntax for using sed to replace \ with / in a file?  I cant get it right.13:03
roofso what is stored in the MBR?13:04
ActionParsnip1roof: run: sudo blkid    then read your fstab on your internal partition13:04
howlingmadhowieroof: barely more than a pointer to the existing grub.13:04
roofa flag that tells it where to find the 2nd bootloader - the foot flag13:04
alankilaJuJuBee: a guess: sed 's/\\/\//g'13:04
alankilaworks here13:04
roofaction, its not the FS thjat is that issue, I have no secondary bootloader at all.13:05
JuJuBeealankila: I was using " not ' thanks13:05
roofits as if there is no disk, it must be MBR13:05
alankilaJuJuBee: " works too but then you need to \\ every \.13:05
alankilaI guess...13:05
ActionParsnip1roof: ten use the liveCD to rewrite grub213:05
roofhowlingmadhowie, how do i check the flag?13:05
JuJuBeealankila: Ah, ok.13:05
roofi have ubuntu live running13:06
howlingmadhowieroof: sorry, i dunno :( pc hardware isn't my speciality :(13:06
Goliathikonia: hi13:06
llutzJuJuBee: to make it less confusing, use different separator, sed 's=\\=/=g'13:07
ActionParsnip1roof: you can run: sudo fdisk /dev/diskname    e.g.    /dev/sda    and make sure the partition is marked as bootable13:07
qdbZeppelin, i am sorry, may be i had forgotten password13:08
ActionParsnip1roof: then install grub2 to the mbr, then check the UUIDs to make sure stab is mounting the right partition as /13:08
Goliathstartup-notification what is this for?13:08
roofoh yeah i found the option13:08
roofthat should fix is now, it was no longer set13:08
ActionParsnip1roof: if all that is in place then the system will boot13:09
Goliathstartup-notification-0.10-1  is this for gnome?13:09
roofthe rest of my system should be fine, i am wondering if recreating the partiiton fscked the MBR13:09
indushello folks13:09
roofman its a mission getting the cd out of macbook pro13:10
avishekI'm using samba on ubuntu server 9.10 with an external hard disk mounted on /srv/samba/share. Is it possible to set passwords on the subdirectories?13:10
GoliathActionParsnip1: startup-notification-0.10-1  do you know what is this for?13:10
MaSSaSlaYeRstill needing help with wireless on HP 213313:10
induswhat could be the possible reasons for the proprietary driver not activating via hardware drivers13:10
Hucknow i have installed skype and i wrote in the terminal: $ skype13:11
HuckAborted13:11
ActionParsnip1Goliath: no idea13:11
Goliatho ok13:11
indus!REPEAT13:11
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.13:11
induswhat could be the possible reasons for the proprietary driver not activating via hardware drivers13:12
brijithHuck: did you installed the deb file of skype13:12
Goliath!RTFM13:12
ubottuAcronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.13:12
Goliathstupid bot ;D13:12
Huckbrijith: yes13:12
Hucki have download 5 min ago from skype,com13:13
indusHuck: which deb on whaat system13:13
brijithHuck:Which distro u are using 9.1013:13
indusHuck: 64 bit?13:13
brijithHuck:I am using 32 bit and its works fine here13:13
Huck64 BIT13:14
Huck9.10 64 bit13:14
Bam_BamHi, I'm trying to use SSH to bridge a virtualbox is there any way I can do this with only two IPs on the remote network?13:15
Dr_WillisBam_Bam:  what do you mean to 'bridge' ?13:15
Bam_BamWell, I need a tunnel to the remote network that the virtualbox can use I think13:16
Bam_BamI don't really know what I want so I'm having a hard time explaining13:16
Dr_WillisYou could set up virtioalbox to have a normal 'lan' ip as if it was a real machine. and do a tunnle to/from it as if it was a real box on the network.13:17
Dr_Willisie: my home lan   Main machine 192.168.1.100   virtualbox on Main machine  192.169.1.10113:17
Huckwell what can i do it?13:18
Bam_BamDr_Willis, I have a linode VPS that I would like to tunnel the virtualbox traffic through13:18
tobiashhi there13:18
orelobCould someone enlighten me on the Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud. Have I understood it correctly that the correct way to install it is to have one Master server and several nodes and that all of these together build up as one large Virtual Machine server - or shoud I rather user several VMWare servers to install the Master and Slave nodes on?13:18
brijithHuck:Sorry I don't know what went wrong in ur 64 BIT13:18
Dr_WillisNo idea on how VPS's work. ive never really used one.   Id imagine you could just set vbox to use the vps stuff as you would a real machine.13:19
amsterdamharuHuck: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432295 (temporary out of service :)13:19
amsterdamharuSee no deb for ubuntu 9.113:19
amsterdamharuhttp://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/choose/13:19
h4fwhat happened to forum ?13:20
Bam_BamDr_Willis, do you think this is what I'm looking for? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN13:20
h4fubuntuforums DIES !!13:20
tobiashoh gawd oh man13:21
Dr_WillisBam_Bam:  ive never done vpn over ssh.  so no idea.  Cant hurt to read it I guess. :)13:21
amsterdamharuHuck, what did you install?13:21
Bam_BamWell, I read through it I just don't know how to make it work13:21
Bam_Bambut thanks13:21
Milos_SDHi13:21
Picih4f: They're down for planned maintenance.13:21
Milos_SDI have a problem with ipw2200 driver and firmware for it. I use Ubuntu 9.10 and when ipw2200 module is loaded, it uses 100% of CPU, and spams syslog with: "Firmware error detected. Reseting"13:22
h4fPici: thank. didn't know13:22
h4fPici: but they might display nice message instead13:22
indusActionParsnip1: hi13:24
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ActionParsnip1indus: howdy13:24
indusActionParsnip1: all good13:24
indusActionParsnip1: have you seen dmesg | tail in karmic, something about cpu1 attaching null schedule domain what sthat about13:25
ActionParsnip1indus: yeah as good as can be13:25
ActionParsnip1indus: no idea man, never used dual core13:25
wvdSo, I executed these commands yesterday: http://bpaste.net/show/1430/ - and reinstalled ndiswrapper, however I cannot execute 'modprobe ndiswrapper' anymore: 'FATAL: no module ndiswrapper or something' << i think this is because it's removedd from the kernel. Anyone has ideas to fix it?13:27
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ActionParsnip1wvd: use ndisgtk instead, it does a lot for you13:28
tobiashcan I make ubuntu 8.10 fast on a 384mb ram computer with 1,200+ old processor?13:28
wvdActionParsnip1: It doesn't do 'modprobe ndiswrapper'13:28
Milos_SDcan anyone help me please?13:29
zubin71hello :)13:29
ActionParsnip1wvd: it will configure the system to load it at boot13:29
ActionParsnip1wvd: sudo apt-get --reinstall install ndisgtk     will let it install everything you need13:29
wishkeepHi everyboyd!13:29
wishkeepone question13:30
ActionParsnip1!ask | Milos13:30
ubottuMilos: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)13:30
alankilatobiash: if you can consider using lxde instead of gnome, you'll save a lot of memory. 9.10 contains a light version called "lubuntu", you could try that.13:30
wvdActionParsnip1: I don't have internet, I did 'Reinstall package' by double clicking on the .deb I got on my CD.13:30
industhat smiley doesnt gowell with the factoid13:30
llutzwvd: why did you rm that module? get it back from kernel-package13:30
psicobraok i waited ages the activate button does nothing13:30
wishkeephow i make the file "resolv.conf" with my personal configuration?13:30
tobiashalankila ye lxde works decent :) But my bro didn't like it much because of the look13:30
zubin71i need a bash one-liner which can display lines from a set of files which have the word "test" and display the filenames beside it.13:31
ActionParsnip1wvd: use a wired connection13:31
tobiashalankila it's his worthless computer, but he still uses that pile of crap13:31
llutzzubin71: man egrep13:31
wvdllutz: How do I get it back from the kernel package?13:31
ActionParsnip1wishkeep: gksudo gedit/etc/resolv.conf13:31
ActionParsnip1wishkeep: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf13:31
wishkeepActionParsnip1, thanks!13:31
ActionParsnip1wishkeep: 2nd one (missed a space)13:32
llutzwvd: download kernel-packe, extract the modules13:32
alankilatobiash: you could also try something called compcache and gnome with 9.10. And get rid of firefox, it's slow & bloated, chromium or epiphany-webkit is much faster...13:32
wvdllutz: should I automatically reinstall ndiswrapper?13:32
ActionParsnip1wishkeep: if you use network manager or any of that muck, it will overwrite the file when it starts13:32
llutzwvd: ndiswrapper won't install the kernel-module (afaik)13:32
ActionParsnip1wishkeep: so add the DNS servers to the config of the app, rather than the file13:32
wishkeepyes!13:32
llutzwvd: modules are in linux-image-$(uname -r)13:33
wishkeepon app?13:33
zubin71llutz : thankx :)13:33
ActionParsnip1wishkeep: do you use network manager or wicd or someting like that?13:33
wvdllutz: but how come ndiswrapper was there before?13:33
wishkeepyes NM13:33
llutzwvd: because it is installed together with your kernel13:33
ActionParsnip1wishkeep: ok, so when that app loads, it will destroy the settings and put in its own13:33
wishkeepyes, i know13:34
wvdllutz: sec, ndiswrapper isn't automatically @ your system, right?13:34
ActionParsnip1wishkeep: so you  need to put the settings you want into network manager13:34
tobiashalankila Wolfenstein Enemy Territory is loading like forever13:34
tobiashalankila even on lxde13:34
llutzwvd: the kernel-module called ndiswrapper.ko is, just the ndiswrapper-utils aren't13:34
wishkeephow i do? on preferences? or editing my network?13:34
industobiash: www.google.com/chrome13:34
wishkeepand add on DSN space?13:34
ActionParsnip1wishkeep: i dont use network manager13:34
wishkeepjejeje13:34
wvdllutz: so, ndiswrapper.ko got there when I installed linux?13:34
ActionParsnip1wishkeep: click round, it will be there13:34
alankilatobiash: well, I guess you should forget about gaming on the system. It would be worth it to examine whether that is due to lack of cpu, lack of memory, or extremely slow disks, though. But I'm not too surprised...13:35
wishkeepActionParsnip1: jeje, thanxs a lot!!!13:35
llutzwvd: yes, and that's what you deleted with your last line of the bpaste (stupid action)13:35
wishkeepActionParsnip1: one more thing, jeje13:35
tobiashalankila he's got old ide 40gb drive 384mb ram and old ass duron 1200+13:35
ActionParsnip1indus: tobiash: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa13:36
llutzwvd: and to get it back, you'll need the kernel-package of your kernel13:36
Milos_SDI have a problem with ipw2200 driver and firmware for it. I use Ubuntu 9.10 and when ipw2200 module is loaded, it uses 100% of CPU, and spams syslog with: "Firmware error detected. Reseting" Does someone know how can I fix this problem and make wifi work?13:36
alankilatobiash: just run top in one window while the game loads and see if the cpu is pegged at 100 % and if swap usage is increasing, that gets a bit of notion about which part is the bottleneck, probably. If the drive is very slow, or badly configured somehow, that could also matter.13:36
indusActionParsnip1: thats a ppa, not advisable always13:36
wvdllutz: well, I'm trying to configure my wifi for ~15h, so I kind of did everything they said (as I'm pretty new to linux)13:36
ActionParsnip1Milos_SD: you need firmware for your wifi card13:36
null_kuhlhello, i have just installed fedora 11 and i had ubuntu karmic installed on a different partition ( i think they use different grub versions) can any one tell me how to add ubuntu to my current grub list to be able to boot to karmic again ?13:36
wvdllutz: it seems that I cannot find it at the packages.ubuntu.com13:36
MaSSaSlaYeRWhy doesn't Broadcom STA Wireless Driver DOESN't want to Activate!!!13:36
wvdllutz: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=kernel&searchon=names&suite=karmic&section=all13:36
ActionParsnip1indus: it means its installable from software sources13:36
wishkeepActionParsnip1: if I change de permissions of resolve.conf file to only read.....i will fix it?13:37
Milos_SDActionParsnip1, i know that, I have linux-firmware package installed13:37
llutzwvd: it's linux-image-$(uname -r)13:37
alankilatobiash: one can test the drive performance with something like bonnie++ to establish if it can read/write at reasonable rate like 30-40 MB/s or if it goes 5 MB/s because of some awful misconfiguration.13:37
wvdllutz: with apt-get?13:37
Milos_SDActionParsnip1, and there is ipw2200-*.fw files in /lib/firmware13:37
indusActionParsnip1: yes but its still not official google chrome13:37
llutzwvd: yes13:37
ActionParsnip1wishkeep: no it will always be overwritten afaik, you can markit as read only maybe13:37
indusits chromium in development13:37
wvdllutz: i can't use apt-get atm, no connection at ubuntu.13:37
ActionParsnip1indus: its the same code and the bugs from chomium go into chrom13:37
tobiashalankila last time my bro was copying something to a pendrive with speed less than one mb/s13:37
ActionParsnip1e13:37
null_kuhlhello, i have just installed fedora 11 and i had ubuntu karmic installed on a different partition ( i think they use different grub versions) can any one tell me how to add ubuntu to my current grub list to be able to boot to karmic again ?13:37
tobiashin my computer it was like 40mb/s13:38
ActionParsnip1indus: chrome is just a less cutting edge chromium13:38
wishkeepActionParsnip1: ok thanxs againXD13:38
FlaPer87hi, is it possible to start a daemon on startup after another daemon has been started?13:38
indusActionParsnip1: no,bugs from chromium stay there13:38
FlaPer87I mean like a dependency?13:38
alankilatobiash: that's probably due to slow USB ports. Old computers do not have usb 2.0, only 1.1 at best, and that is 1 MB/s.13:38
Kopachrisnull_kuhl: search ubuntuforums.org for "Grub 2 guide"13:38
induschrome is a fixed beta release unlike the chromium project13:38
tobiashalankila ye that is prolly it13:38
PiciKopachris, null_kuhl: The forums are currently down for maintenance.13:38
KopachrisOh.13:38
null_kuhlKopachris: but fedora 11 doesnt use grub 2 ,13:38
KopachrisIt doesn't?13:39
indusi just prefer google's products13:39
KopachrisHmm...13:39
null_kuhlKopachris: i dont think so13:39
Dr_Willisnull_kuhl:  in theory if you let ubuntu handle the bootloader with grub2 it could see/auto add fedora to its list.13:39
Milos_SDbut they are somehow diffrent then other firmwares there... icon is different (nautilus says it is a TGA image) :S13:39
indusnot projects :)13:39
CrusaderADHey guys, ubuntu forums.org go down?13:39
tobiashindus is that chrome that light? or you just advertise?13:39
Dr_WillisCrusaderAD:  for maintaince - yes.13:39
alankilatobiash: it's possible to upgrade to usb 2.0 via pci expansion cards, but that's likely just waste of money. It is time to upgrade.13:39
null_kuhlDr_Willis: so i just mark the ubuntu partition as the active one ?13:39
industobiash: its light indeed , try and see13:39
CrusaderADok, thanks doc13:39
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ActionParsnip1indus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome says: In September 2008, Google released the entire source code of Chrome, including its V8 JavaScript engine, as an open sourceproject entitled Chromium13:39
ActionParsnip1indus: same code13:40
tobiashindus gonna give it a shot13:40
indusActionParsnip1: that doesnt make chrome into chromium13:40
ActionParsnip1indus: just more bleeding edge13:40
Dr_Willisnull_kuhl:  Not sure. I havent bothered to try different disrtos with grub2 yet.   If  i want to test different disrtos i just use virtualbox.13:40
tobiashindus on my own computer I would never use anything other than Opera :P But bro's comp is just worthless13:40
indusActionParsnip1: i take that code and make a browser called dousedfox ,so its not chrome then13:40
Dr_Willisnull_kuhl:  or if each OS is on its own hard drive. You could put  the bootloader for each os on its own HD then use the bios menus to pick the hd to boot.13:40
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indusActionParsnip1: but i get your point13:40
ActionParsnip1indus: cool13:41
industobiash: dont expect good flash performance though, its still crappy13:41
induschrome does borrow some code from mozilla13:41
tobiashindus flash is worthless in linux world13:41
wvdWhere can I download the kernel-package of Ubuntu? I need to reinstall it, but can't find it at packages.ubuntu.com (NO, I can't use apt-get)13:41
industobiash: well, was great upto 913:41
CrusaderADHas anyone here heard or seen that wubi bug with the new grub in 9.10?13:42
indusiam wondering if i can find some old flash 8 version13:42
tobiashindus even my comp doesn't satifsy me with fullscreen performance not being as smooth as it should be13:42
indusmany sites still support it due to crappy flash 1013:42
tobiashindus adobe sucks13:42
indusnvm off topic now !13:42
ActionParsnip1indus: flash works better than firefox under chromium here13:42
vegombreii need some help .. Type 'multiverse' is not known on line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list13:43
indusActionParsnip1: yes better but still not good like older 913:43
induswhat really went wrong with 10? i still dont get it13:43
ActionParsnip1indus: very true :( although 10.1 looks promising13:43
vegombreiwhat does one do when that happens|?13:43
indusits their worst release ever13:43
indusworks great on windows though :)13:43
Dr_Willisvegombrei:  sounds like a typo in uyour sources.list13:44
indusvegombrei: paste that list13:44
clathrateanyone got mapi working properly in evolution?  i got it somehow connected and it knows about my folders & mail but doesn't display them...  actually scratch that... it's somehow that my mouse clicks don't work properly on the >/V dropdown control in the folder list!!!  how do I fix that?  another thing i noticed is that I can't click the buttons in the evolution preferences dialog, it's some sort of focus weirdness13:44
tobiashlets hope 10.1 will fix the performance13:44
wvdWhere can I download the kernel-package of Ubuntu 9.10? I need to reinstall it, but can't find it at packages.ubuntu.com (NO, I can't use apt-get)13:44
aliquererneed help in watching streamed video (veetle) could any1 help?13:44
killerblackwvd: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.32/13:49
Dr_Willisaliquerer:  the site demands you diownload and insstall veetle-0.9.15-linux-install.sh13:52
aliquererDr_Willis: Yes, i have done that13:52
Dr_Willisaliquerer:  i did so.. and  theng asks for me to ok a EULA for some reason then  saya -> Installing to /home/willis/.mozilla/plugins and /home/willis/.veetle_vlc13:52
Dr_Willis aliquerer  and then the site still fails to work13:52
aliquererDr_Willis: dont understand really ut i think youve got it right13:52
prabha1989y some of the flash sites dont work well with ubuntu?13:52
Dr_Willisaliquerer:  the site dosent work.13:52
aliquererDr_Willis: ok thats pity13:52
Dr_Willisprabha1989:  because those sites  often do goofy things.. and of course adobe/flash under linux is often goofy also13:52
FloodBot1NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.13:52
aliquerercoudl anyone one help me installing Sopcast then?13:52
perpetualrabbitCan someone help me with grub2 please?13:52
Dr_Willisaliquerer:  post a message to their forums... ask them how you Uninstall that plugin also. :)13:53
MASARUwotaperpetualrabbit: please state your problem clearly and in 1 sentence.13:53
wvdKopachris: Any idea?13:53
perpetualrabbitMASARUwota, I want to install grub2 onto a second disk, which I then want to put into another computer.13:53
Dr_Willisaliquerer:  they got a linxu forum - says the plugin dont work properly with 64bit linux.  one user said it worked with FLOCK for him in 64bit13:53
stanley_robertsohi all13:54
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prabha1989Dr_Willis: k thanks for the info13:54
aliquererDr_Willis: ok im not using 64 bits however is it same to me?13:54
MASARUwotaperpetualrabbit: yes? just install it and put it nito the computer then :p13:54
Kopachriswvd: not a clue.  lemme search a bit more13:54
stanley_robertsoi need a small help with respect to Ubuntu. I have installed ubuntu 9.10 desktop version on VM. now iam not able to connect to internet. Can somebody help me regarding this13:54
Shay27Hello , does its possible to use tar command to extract (tar archive) without the folders structure ? so all files will be extracted into 1 folder ?13:54
mihais there a lib in repositories:   Couldn't find a new-enough version of 'libtoolize', please install one!13:54
Dr_Willisaliquerer:  no idea. check their forums is all i can suggest at this time.13:54
wvdKopachris: I could reinstall my whole ubuntu system.. if needed.13:55
aliquererDr_Willis: ok thank you13:55
MASARUwotaShay27: no, that would need the tar to be editted before extraction which doesnt make sense13:55
perpetualrabbitMASARUwota, well, it does not work of course. I did the following: /usr/sbin/grub-setup --force --directory=/root/target/part_root/boot/grub --device-map=/root/target/part_root/boot/grub/device.map /dev/sdh13:55
will__is there a way that i can copy a working installation (on a failing hard drive) directly to another hard drive so that i dont have to reinstall?13:55
Kopachriswvd: I don't you'll have to do that, but you might have to compile the kernel--something I've never done.13:55
MaSSaSlaYeRWhy doesn't Broadcom STA Wireless Driver DOESN't want to Activate!!!??13:56
Shay27MASARUwota: what i mean is that i have tar archive containing files and folders , i would like to extract the files to 1 folder without the folders structure from the archive ?13:56
grkbloodanyone know where i can get the old school "flying toasters" screensaver for ubuntu?13:56
indusMaSSaSlaYeR: why , what happens when you click activate13:56
Dr_WillisShay27:  the file manager 'mc' can view/extract teh contents of a archive as if it was a directory13:56
perpetualrabbitMASARUwota, but when I put the disk in the other machine, it says "GRUB" and then nothing happens13:56
MASARUwotaShay27: the folders are part of the tar.13:56
ActionParsnip1MaSSaSlaYeR: use: gksudo jockey-gtk    to run it13:56
stanley_robertsocan somebody help me ?13:57
MASARUwotaperpetualrabbit: does it work fine on your first pc? with ONLY that HD?13:57
aliquererCould anyone help me installing Sopcast?13:57
HaskellLovewhich is better for programmers, ubuntu or debian?13:57
MASARUwota!ask|stanley_robertso13:57
ubottustanley_robertso: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)13:57
MaSSaSlaYeRActionParsnip1:  still not activating13:57
ighgood morning13:57
stanley_robertsoI already asked ubottu, but none replied :(13:57
MASARUwotaHaskellLove: debian is quicker, but you need to configure stuff more manually13:57
dtoanyone know if there is a ppa for karmic and the new wacom bamboo pen tablets?13:57
indusstanley_robertso: yes13:57
warriorforgodstanley_robertso: What is your issue?13:57
stanley_robertsoi need a small help with respect to Ubuntu. I have installed ubuntu 9.10 desktop version on VM. now iam not able to connect to internet. Can somebody help me regarding this13:57
stanley_robertsoVM --> Virtual Machine13:58
mota_help iptables string13:58
HaskellLoveMASARUwota> more manually what do you mean?13:58
ighinstall ppp13:58
ActionParsnip1MASARUwota: depends on config13:58
MaSSaSlaYeRActionParsnip1:  any other ideas?13:58
perpetualrabbitMASARUwota, there is an installation on the first disk, which I want to clone onto that second drive, /dev/sdh. The other drive numbers (b,c,d,e,f,g) are cardreader slots btw.13:58
MASARUwotaHaskellLove: less out of the box GUI bloat13:58
stanley_robertsoany help in this regards, would be of great help13:58
warriorforgodstanley_robertso: Are you using NAT or bridged connection with the VM?  Also are you using vmware, virtualbox, etc?13:58
HaskellLoveMASARUwota> i guess i should script ruby perl in debian to make scripts and use the command line all the time?13:58
stanley_robertsoSun Virtual Box13:59
warriorforgodstanley_robertso: Are you using NAT or bridged for the network connection?13:59
stanley_robertsoand iam on ADSL13:59
MASARUwotaHaskellLove: no13:59
BluesKajhowdy folks13:59
ActionParsnip1MaSSaSlaYeR: what's the output of: sudo lshw -C network | grep STA13:59
warriorforgodstanley_robertso: Also are you connected directly to the modem or through a router?13:59
stanley_robertsoits a router [ ADSL Router ]13:59
perpetualrabbitMASARUwota, so I partition and then clone the disk with tar and such. The first disk is fine, that linux runs ok. The second disk need some kind of grub-setup command which I do not seem to get right and info on the web is dreadful :-(14:00
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stanley_robertsobasically iam connecting to the modem directky [ which is an ADSL Router ]14:00
HaskellLoveMASARUwota> well what do you mean by manually, talk to me ...14:00
stanley_robertsos/directky/directly14:00
MaSSaSlaYeRActionParsnip1:  there just comes: PCI (sysfs)14:00
ActionParsnip1MASARUwota: my buntu install scrapes just over 2Gb ad is fast as lightning14:00
warriorforgodstanley_robertso: Do you have the vms network connection NAT'd or bridged?14:00
MASARUwotaperpetualrabbit: just put in the disk on its own, install grub, test if its working, and place it into another computer.14:00
ActionParsnip1MaSSaSlaYeR: wait a sec14:00
MaSSaSlaYeRActionParsnip1:  ok14:00
Dr_Willisstanley_robertso:  in what virtual machine did you use?14:00
ActionParsnip1MaSSaSlaYeR: whats it say now?14:00
stanley_robertsohow to find out  ? warriorforgod14:00
MaSSaSlaYeRActionParsnip1:  there just comes: PCI (sysfs)14:00
berrybarrycould I get help starting web based vnc?14:01
stanley_robertsoDr_Willis, i didnot get your question, sorry14:01
warriorforgodstanley_robertso: It is on the network configuration page for the vm in virtualbox console14:01
ActionParsnip1MaSSaSlaYeR: ok try: sudo lshw -C network | grep -i product14:01
MASARUwotaActionParsnip1: trust me, debian uses less out of the box drivers and runs less during startup. thus, its quicker =)14:01
Dr_Willisstanley_robertso:  'in a vm' theres several VM's you could be using.. vmware? virtualbox? some other?14:01
stanley_robertsoits a NAT warriorforgod14:01
MASARUwotaActionParsnip1: however if ubuntu is really quick already you shouldnt bother, i guess14:01
berrybarryany software available for web based vnc?14:02
stanley_robertsoDr_Willis, its virtual box [ Sun Virtual Box ]14:02
perpetualrabbitMASARUwota, I am attemting to write a script to do this over the network, with pxe. I need a routine that can do this on a disk that I choose. So I need to know how grub2 does it.14:02
warriorforgodstanley_robertso: Try changing it to bridged and reboot the vm.14:02
MaSSaSlaYeRActionParsnip1: Product: BCM4312 802.11b/g & Product NetXtreme BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet14:02
skaI had to remove a /lib/modules/linuxXXX by hand because we ran out of space. NOw apt is angry and says it can't fully remove the missing stuff. How do I fix that?14:02
Dr_Willisstanley_robertso:   You have read the vitualbox docs? they got a decent pdf manual at their homepage.  Ive rarely had networking issues with it. You may just need to set the proper config for the vm14:02
ActionParsnip1MASARUwota: true, use minimal ubuntu and install lxde, nice and minimal ad slick, no need for a gui logon either ;)14:02
stanley_robertsowarriorforgod, i will try it now14:02
ActionParsnip1!broadcom14:02
skaNo I couldn't use apt to remove it because it had no space left on device.14:02
ActionParsnip1!bcm4314:03
kinja-sheepDoes UPnP AV MediaServer exists?  The one that is capable of streaming correct format?14:03
perpetualrabbitMASARUwota, for now I just use a disk that I connect directly, but I need a routine that does it for me from the pxeserver, say from a script run from an initrd or and nfsroot14:03
stanley_robertsoDr_Willis,  the problem is happening when i connect to VM from my home.. from office, everything works fine14:03
perpetualrabbitMASARUwota, do you see my problem?14:03
MaSSaSlaYeRActionParsnip1: i tried to install it manually doesn't work14:03
vegombreiDr_Willis: http://pastebin.com/m6693144014:03
stanley_robertsowarriorforgod, it failed at the startup itself14:04
stanley_robertsowhen i modified it to Bridged, VM failed to start14:04
ActionParsnip1MaSSaSlaYeR: could try: http://nxadm.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/broadcom-wifi-bcm4312-speedup-on-ubuntu-804-on-a-hp-nc6320-laptop/14:04
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stanley_robertsoit came up as "VERR_SUPDRV_COMPONENT_NOT_FOUND" ERROR14:04
ActionParsnip1MaSSaSlaYeR: or : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx14:05
Dr_Willisstanley_robertso:  you can set up virtualbox ti have its own ip on the lan like any other pc on the lan could have. then set the router to port forward to that ip.14:05
MaSSaSlaYeRActionParsnip1: did that that14:05
Dr_Willisstanley_robertso:  otjherwise by default its on its own private lan ip range14:05
MaSSaSlaYeRActionParsnip1:  the second one14:05
stanley_robertsoDr_Willis, ok, i would go through the documentation and set it up properly. Thanks for the info14:06
berrybarryI want to publish my computer online could someone walk me through it?14:06
MaSSaSlaYeRActionParsnip1:  when i boot it states : bcmwl(5.10.91.9+bdcom).... Fail!14:06
terrorink:\14:06
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ActionParsnip1MaSSaSlaYeR: bah, i'd give the script a go. i avoid broadcom personally14:06
jcrawfordis there any free to use software for ubuntu that will allow me to make a video of my screens? screen capture/recording?14:06
AlexanderSupertrberrybarry: that's a loaded statement14:07
MaSSaSlaYeRActionParsnip1:  it's a laptop i just bought to learn ubuntu ... :$14:07
AlexanderSupertrberrybarry: :)14:07
jcrawfordI need to make a small video demonstrating something I made on the web14:07
ighwhat do you all think of XBMC14:07
Dr_Willisstanley_robertso:  its a setting on the viortuialbox configs - but i forget which one. I always got to reread the docs14:07
berrybarryalexandersupertr do you have experince on doing it?14:07
tarzeaucan i unchrome the linux google chrome?14:07
stanley_robertsocool, will do the same :)14:07
berrybarryalexandersupertr I have portforwarding :)14:08
AlexanderSupertrberrybarry: you mean do you want to publish some documents on internet? or u want to access you compuetr from internet?14:08
Dr_Willisigh:  i dont care for it. use it if you like. theres also the 'moovida' program thats similer.14:08
Dr_Willis!info moovida14:08
berrybarryalexandersupertr acess computer meaning show everything ha :)14:08
berrybarryalexandersupertr ha not ssh14:08
ighmoovida isnt stable, it wont start up, i've uninstalled adn re-installed14:08
ighit was working at first14:08
ActionParsnip1tarzeau: define "unchrom@14:08
ActionParsnip1tarzeau: "unchrome"14:09
AlexanderSupertrberrybarry: you can use sftp in nautilus from another computer14:09
Dr_Willisigh:  ive had dozens of issues with xbmc here. not tried moovida lately. I just use vlc normally14:09
tarzeauActionParsnip1: removing the uniq id14:09
tarzeauActionParsnip1: that the browser reports back to google14:09
Dr_Willistarzeau:  clarify your clarification. :)14:09
ighok ty Dr14:09
tarzeauActionParsnip1: http://www.techyard.net/remove-client-id-from-chrome-for-privacy/14:09
terrorink......14:09
tarzeauDr_Willis: i think i figured already myself, thanks14:09
ighim new to unbuntu, i think this is great really stable OS14:10
berrybarryalexandersupertr I was thinking about getting a free static ip using no-ip and thought their was a tool or software avaiable for a web based vnc14:10
terrorinkits ok igh14:10
ActionParsnip1tarzeau: what you got to hide14:10
prabha1989help14:10
terrorinkbut ext4 is unstable as all hell14:10
tarzeauActionParsnip1: nothing14:10
ActionParsnip1tarzeau: then why do you want to do it14:10
tarzeauActionParsnip1: my surfing habits are of nobodys business14:10
terrorinklol14:11
ActionParsnip1tarzeau: your ISP keeps logs of all you look at, so yes it is14:11
terrorinkso use proxys u silly willy14:11
terrorinkuse an encrypted proxy :D14:11
terrorinkssl :)14:11
tarzeauActionParsnip1: not forever14:11
perpetualrabbitMASARUwota, How could I put the non-booting disk on its own? I cannot get into linux there; and besides How do I install grub2 in the first place...14:11
tarzeauActionParsnip1: google cookies don't expire14:11
AlexanderSupertrberrybarry: you know the way then. there are web based vnc viewrs.14:11
tarzeauterrorink: you didn't get it, even if you use a proxy the browser reports stuff back to google14:11
terrorinkif u use a ssl proxy and surf to sites the os cant decrypt the traffic and it just looks like u were looking at 1 site forever and then if u wanna go into detail u can even proxy chain so it makes it 100x's harder14:12
ActionParsnip1tarzeau: i wasnt aware of any of this calling home and nor do I care. Not something i'm afraid of14:12
MASARUwotaperpetualrabbit: you need a *nix-like system to install it on.14:12
berrybarryAlexanderSupertr I am clueless I only see windows webbased software :(14:12
berrybarrys-code.com is windows based14:12
* ActionParsnip1 hands tarzeau a new tinfoil hat14:13
ActionParsnip1tarzeau: how do you know someone hasnt changed their ID to yours?14:13
luckhello! Anybody here using Qt4.6 - QtMultimedia module? Any special configuration to use it with pulse-audio in Ubuntu 9.10?14:13
tarzeauActionParsnip1: i don't14:13
ActionParsnip1tarzeau: i guess you'll have to sweat about that instead14:14
terrorinklol14:14
terrorinktarzeau read what i sent u14:14
tarzeauterrorink: i did14:14
terrorinksolves ur problem no ?14:15
Pici!offtopic14:15
PiciCan we please stay on topic folks?14:15
perpetualrabbitMASARUwota, well, I have one ubuntu running fine. I connect the disk to a free sata cable, the system hotplugs it. I use fdisk to partition it, then make filesystems, mount them and tar the system over to it. Then I want to put grub onto the second disk, which always worked fine with grub 1, but now with grub 2 no end of trouble. I need to know howto operate grub2 in command line mode14:15
ActionParsnip1is their a #internetparanoia channel ?14:15
skahttp://pastebin.com/m2d6d7596  I can't get around this .. please help14:15
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!14:16
perpetualrabbitMASARUwota, step 2 is to do the same over PXE, with over 60 workstations. I am not going to install them all by hand.14:16
aleksander_mska: ubuntu 8.04?14:16
tarzeauterrorink, ActionParsnip1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome#Usage_tracking14:16
ActionParsnip1ska: sudo mkdir /lib/modules/2.6.24-23-generic; sudo touch /lib/modules/2.6.24-23-generic/modules.dep.temp14:17
ActionParsnip1tarzeau: i dont think its a bad thing at all14:17
ActionParsnip1tarzeau: i'd send them my browser cahce hourly if they wanted it14:17
Picitarzeau, terrorink, ActionParsnip1:Lets stay on topic please.  If you want to talk about whether google is tracking you, plese use #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere.14:17
Bam_BamIs there some way I can send all traffic on an interface through a SOCKs proxy?14:18
Bam_BamOr create a virtual interface that uses that proxy as a gateway?14:19
skaActionParsnip1: thanks. that worked..14:19
terrorinko dude of course they are they have to after the new law was passed14:19
ActionParsnip1ska: sweet, the post uninstall script was failing due to some missing files14:19
ActionParsnip1ska: we just humoured it14:19
terrorinkall encrypted traffic is to be treated as child porn14:19
skayea.. I thought about it, but it seemed too easy to work..14:20
mystxHello. Is there a photo management program that can import, sort into year/month/day folders, and backup to two or more places, and then show all the photos in a picasa or similar way?14:20
ActionParsnip1ska: the easiest answer is usually the right one14:20
terrorinkwhat ever u do dont use tor14:21
terrorinkstupidest thing u can ever do14:21
ActionParsnip1terrorink: or firefox14:21
terrorinklol14:21
Pici!offtopic14:21
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!14:21
terrorinkpici ?14:21
terrorinki am helping them14:22
terrorinka security question is still a support question14:22
terrorinkand i happen to be a security expert14:22
Piciterrorink: I don't see what this has to do with Ubuntu support.14:22
terrorinksecurty effects ubuntu does it not14:22
terrorink?14:22
Dr_WillisTor isent een in the ubuntu repos any more - last i checked.14:22
ActionParsnip1!info tor14:23
ubottuPackage tor does not exist in karmic14:23
terrorinklol14:23
Dr_Willisthere were tools for it. and so forth. bht the actual package - no. I recall it lost its maintainer a few releases ago.14:23
terrorinkdid u try installing backtrack tools on ubuntu14:23
terrorink:)14:23
airtonix!u14:24
ubottuU is the 21st letter of the modern latin alphabet. Neither 'U' or 'Ur' are words in the English language. Nor are 'R', 'Y', 'l8', 'Ne1' or 'Bcuz'. Mangled English is hard for non-native English speakers. Please see http://geekosophical.net/random/abbreviations/ for more information.14:24
llutzget tor from torüroject.org, they have a repo14:24
Dr_WillisBacktrack support is on its own channel.14:24
llutztorproject*14:24
GeertDoes somebody know weither SCST will be implemented in the Ubuntu kernel?14:24
PiciThere are other places to discuss such things. ##security for one.  #ubuntu is for Ubuntu OS support only.14:24
remoteCTRL1can anybody please tell me where to click in the netbox remix to add an application to the panel???14:24
terrorinkso your saying security is not important for ubuntu ?14:24
terrorinkeven though its part of the os14:25
vegombreiDr_Willis: http://pastebin.com/m6693144014:25
DiverdudeI have seen that there are kind of GUI plugins that reveal info about CPU usage and memory usage etc. How can i get that?14:26
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ActionParsnip1remoteCTRL1: its in alacarte14:27
airtonixDiverdude, system > admin > system monitor14:27
Diverdudeairtonix, nono, i want to have it on the desktop as displayed all the time in a nice layout14:27
Dr_Willisvegombrei:  and whats that for?14:28
airtonixDiverdude, like [ http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/34533/screenshot_004_E3vbf9.png ] >?14:29
airtonixDiverdude, or like : http://www.screenlets.org/images/1/1b/Cpu.jpg14:29
airtonixDiverdude, or maybe perhaps you were thinking of : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/images/conky/7.png14:30
ActionParsnip1airtonix: i'd advise conky its badass14:31
* Dr_Willis advises reading the Conky homepage/docs/faq also. :)14:32
airtonixActionParsnip1, it is not me who is looking for such things14:32
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airtonixActionParsnip1, and although i agree with you that conky is great it has some severe shortcomings14:33
ActionParsnip1Diverdude: look into conky, its pretty dope and VERY configurable14:33
ActionParsnip1airtonix: all apps do14:33
Dr_WillisMy conky configs --> http://drop.io/dr_willis14:34
MASARUwotaconky is awesome =)14:35
MASARUwotahttp://drop.io/dr_willis14:35
MASARUwotasorry cygwin is acting up14:36
Dr_Willis:)14:36
Dr_WillisI use xming these days instead of cygwin.14:37
ActionParsnip1Dr_Willis: me too, its nice14:37
Dr_WillisId rather see Ubuntu come with  xming then wubi :P14:38
MASARUwotaDr_Willis: im running the irssi windows executable, which is cygwin+putty14:38
airtonixyes : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/180039/screenshots/2009-07-15-173127_1920x1080_conky.png14:38
remoteCTRL1what was the name of this little app that allows you to rename/relable partitions?14:38
Dr_WillisMASARUwota:  heh. :) i did find xchat for windows. (yes it was buggy)14:38
airtonixremoteCTRL, not gpartd ?14:39
Dr_WillisremoteCTRL1:  gparted can do that.. and tune2fs for ext2/3/414:39
ActionParsnip1!label | remoteCTRL114:39
ubotturemoteCTRL1: To rename the labels of your partitions, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RenameUSBDrive.14:39
mihahow to 'force' removal of broken package?14:39
MASARUwotaDr_Willis: i prefer irssi. dunno why14:39
mihaor at least stop it from preventing installing other packages14:39
remoteCTRL1airtonix:  Dr_Willis for some reason i cant relabel the win part in gparted, no idea why...14:39
remoteCTRL1ActionParsnip1: thanks dude:)14:39
Dr_WillisMASARUwota:  ive switched over to WeeChat14:40
airtonixremoteCTRL, make sure it is not mounted14:40
Dr_WillisremoteCTRL1:  you need to install the ntfsprogs support package I think14:40
Dr_Willis!info ntfsprogs14:40
ubottuntfsprogs (source: linux-ntfs): tools for doing neat things in NTFS partitions from Linux. In component main, is optional. Version 2.0.0-1ubuntu3 (karmic), package size 280 kB, installed size 728 kB14:40
MASARUwotaDr_Willis: weechat-curses =) using that at home aswell14:40
MASARUwotacouldnt find a windows binary of that tho :p14:40
Dr_WillisMASARUwota:  yea  - i dont touch irssi any more14:40
ActionParsnip1miha: sudo dpkg --force-all -r packagename     may work14:40
Dr_WillisMASARUwota:  i ssh to my linxu box and use it that way14:41
remoteCTRL1Dr_Willis: yep, that was it, thanks man:)14:41
ActionParsnip1miha: I suggest you get to a squared system will all satisfied deps, then gracefully remove it14:41
mihaActionParsnip1 nope14:41
MASARUwotaDr_Willis: damn, i should try that aswell14:41
piciisstupid*yawn14:41
ActionParsnip1miha: can you give me a little more feedback, i'm not psychic14:41
UukGoblinhi14:41
mihadpkg: error processing boinc-client (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  boinc-client14:41
ActionParsnip1miha: why not be useful and pastebin the output?14:42
UukGoblinwhat happened to crypt_r in hardy?14:42
mihaActionParsnip1 and this before: ERROR: /var/lib/boinc is not owned by boinc.               [FAILED] invoke-rc.d: initscript boinc-client, action "start" failed.14:42
mihaActionParsnip1 now i'd like to remove that and build svn version :D14:42
UukGoblinI #define _XOPEN_SOURCE and include both unistd.h and crypt.h, but crypt_r and struct crypt_data are not defined for some reason14:42
UukGoblinand it works in debian sid14:42
mihatrying to install svn over messed it up in first place14:42
ActionParsnip1miha: sudo chown boinc /var/lib/boinc14:43
ActionParsnip1miha: then try again14:43
matiasss14:43
salvo78salve a tutti14:44
mihaActionParsnip1 http://pastebin.com/m53d69abc the whole thing14:44
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ActionParsnip1miha: and after the chown?14:44
mihasame14:45
remoteCTRL1Dr_Willis: ok i relabeled it now but it still apears as 83gb filesystem in nautilus, whats wrong? (cant rename it there)14:45
mihathat was after :D14:45
UukGoblinI can see crypt(3) manpage in karmic mentions crypt_r, unlike one in hardy...14:45
krishmishcan someone help me with configuring squid to use username authentication?14:46
mihaActionParsnip1 damn i always manage to crash something... after trying screen magnifier to see if my aunt can use gnome... i have virtual deskop twice the width14:46
miha:D14:46
mihaati desktop utility solves that for the session14:46
mihabut it cant save14:46
mihafor next time :D14:46
ActionParsnip1miha: run it with gksudo14:46
mihaoh ok14:46
vegombreii need some help .. Type 'multiverse' is not known on line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list14:46
mihaActionParsnip1 well i'm not complete noob but still didnt think of that :D14:47
krishmishcan someone help me with configuring squid to use username authentication?14:47
mihaActionParsnip1 i guess it should be default to ask :D14:47
piciisstupiddamn action your just all over this channel good job :)14:47
vegombreihttp://pastebin.com/m6693144014:47
ActionParsnip1miha: lots of things should something but dont, you can edit your menus or reate aliases to commands14:47
salvo78mi dite per favore come si scarica la lista14:47
genii!it | salvo7814:48
mihaActionParsnip1 well i just say here in hope some of the more canonical folks would notice14:48
miha:D14:48
salvo78!it14:48
geniisalvo78: #ubuntu-it14:48
Picisalvo78: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)14:48
miha!si14:48
planktum_anyone knows of a way to automagically regenerate the xfe4 applications menu?14:48
planktum_xfce414:48
remoteCTRL1ActionParsnip1: Dr_Willis: ok this is becoming really weird: as i cannot rename it by rightclicking it i did gksudo nautilus and there it is as a matter of fact windows while in user's nautlilus it is still 83gb filesystem... whats going on?:D14:49
vegombreii need to fix my repository .. it wont open synaptic14:49
geniiplanktum_: Try #xubuntu channel14:49
ActionParsnip1remoteCTRL1: what are you renaming?14:49
ActionParsnip1vegombrei: can you give a pastebin of /etc/apt/sources.list14:50
remoteCTRL1ActionParsnip1: the windows partition that i mounted to /media/windows14:50
mihaActionParsnip1 could i somehow just delete it from installed db?14:50
ActionParsnip1vegombrei: what happens when you try to open the app?14:50
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mihai can take care of manually installing then :D14:50
ActionParsnip1miha: there is but i am unsure of the method and I don't agree with it but sometimes its the only way to go14:51
vegombreiindus: paste which list ?? thats all it says14:51
ActionParsnip1remoteCTRL1: if its got a block device mounted to it then it will not be renamable14:51
vegombreiActionParsnip1: it says ...E: Type 'multiverse' is not known on line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list ....E: The list of sources could not be read.14:51
ActionParsnip1vegombrei: run: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   and paste the content to http://pastebin.com14:52
ActionParsnip1vegombrei: when the page changes, copy the address in the address bar and paste it in here14:52
remoteCTRL1ActionParsnip1: i am aware of that thats why i unmounted it but i still cant...14:52
vegombreiActionParsnip1: http://pastebin.com/m7f919e7814:53
nine_I want to write a script that automaticly merge to pdf-files. a.pdf is a multiple side pdf, b.pdf is single. inte his order "a.pdf side 1", "b.pdf", "a.pdf side 2", "b.pdf", "a.pdf side 3", "b.pdf" etc... Any ideas where to start. pdftk? joinpdf? and how to write the script?14:53
jiffe98is there anyway to make a hardlink to a directory?14:53
garrettkI'm trying up upgrade python2.6-minimal, but the install script is attempting to create the directory /usr/local/lib/python2.6 - unfortunately, this is an NFS mount, read-only, so that is failing.  I can't unmount it, because it's in use.  How can I get this to complete?14:53
grawityjiffe98: No. Why do you need that?14:53
ActionParsnip1vegombrei: ok close gedit then run: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list14:53
salvo78si possono scaricare film14:53
jiffe98so I can hardlink directories into people's home directories for ftp purposes without symlinking14:54
matelot\join #gouloum14:54
salvo78qualcuno mi puo dire se si possono scaricare film14:54
grawityjiffe98: There is one way to do something similar -- mount --bind /source /target14:54
ActionParsnip1vegombrei: scroll to the bottom and you will see their is 'multiverse universe' on the last line, put the cursor on the start of that line and press backspace14:54
llutzjiffe98: use bind-mount14:54
DJones!it | salvo7814:54
grawityjiffe98: It won't be permanent though, so put it into fstab.14:55
Dr_WillisHmm.. can you hard link directories? ive never noticed.14:55
salvo78!it14:55
remoteCTRL1ActionParsnip1: ok now i am pi**ed off, booting windwos says a disk read error occurred, press ctrl+alt+del to restart14:55
remoteCTRL1you gotta be kiddn me14:55
DJonessalvo78: No, thats off topic for this channel14:55
grawityDr_Willis: You cannot. Bind mounts aren't exactly the same thing14:55
vegombreiActionParsnip1: http://pastebin.com/m5c77b09d14:55
ActionParsnip1vegombrei: the 'multiverse universe' will now be on the same line as the line above14:56
Dr_Willisgrawity:  i dident think so. I rarely use hardlinks - so wasent sure14:56
ActionParsnip1remoteCTRL1: why is the mountpoint name so important?14:56
vegombreiActionParsnip1: ?14:56
ActionParsnip1vegombrei: yes, its the same file as last time14:56
ActionParsnip1vegombrei: read my instructiojn14:56
oskariquit14:57
vegombreiActionParsnip1: http://pastebin.com/m3a568f0714:57
krishmishcan someone help me with configuring squid to use username authentication?14:57
salvo78scusate mi dite xfavore se si puo scaricare film da qua14:57
jiffe98that was what I was looking for, thanks!14:57
ActionParsnip1vegombrei: look at the last line in this: http://pastebin.com/m5b26698c14:58
remoteCTRL1ActionParsnip1: well it is basically not so important as the fact that i obviously just broke the windows installation by relabeling the disk but basically it is because it should be (as my boss always says) professor proof, i dunno if they can abstract 83gb filesystem to windows partition14:58
vegombreiActionParsnip1: yes i see multiverse universe ...14:58
piciisstupidaction do u not have a job ;)14:58
ActionParsnip1vegombrei: see how the last line of mine looks like the last 2 of yours combined, thats what you need to do14:58
DJonessalvo78: No, questo non è un canale per il download14:59
vegombreiActionParsnip1: oh14:59
vegombreiActionParsnip1: how do i do this ?? gedit ??14:59
ActionParsnip1vegombrei: thats why its screwing up, you have an erroneous carridge return, so the extra line is borking synaptic15:00
ActionParsnip1vegombrei: yes thats why I told you to launch gedit with gksudo, so you can now fix it15:00
c0p3rn1cI expected that the following command would mount the dir with root permissions, but it's still my default user: sudo mkdir /media/USBHDD;sudo chown root:root /media/USBHDD;sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/USBHDD -o uid=root,gid=root15:01
vegombreiActionParsnip1: its fixed ... one more question .. all this happened when i was trying to enhance my gui trying to install compiz or beryl or something .. could you help me with that?>15:01
ActionParsnip1remoteCTRL1: ive not used label, its not important to me how a partition is labelled so I am unsure how it modifys the partition to stored the name15:01
ActionParsnip1vegombrei: have you installed video drivers for 3D accelleration?15:02
vegombreiActionParsnip1: i just installed my video card today .. was clueless .. but as soon as i booted it downloaded drivers and installed new hardware15:03
remoteCTRL1ActionParsnip1: basically i seriously dont care also but this is a presentation netbook whcih erverybody is supposed to be able to handle within the minute and yes, it seems that relabeling win partitions changes something that freakin grub gant handle anymore... or win itself i dunno15:03
vegombreiActionParsnip1: do i have to download 3d acceleration seperately?15:03
ActionParsnip1remoteCTRL1: you know as much as me dude15:03
remoteCTRL1ActionParsnip1: but i'll give update-grub a shot...15:04
ActionParsnip1vegombrei: can you give the output of: lspci | grep -i vga15:04
mihacan ubuntu be reinstalled without wiping /15:04
remoteCTRL1ActionParsnip1: which isn't very much currently :D but ya know that i always appretiate you helping me, man:)15:04
Wipsterhey all, my touchpad has stopped working on my laptop, I am using 9.10 and it was working up to a few days ago, now I have to put a USB mouse in, sometimes it turns the pad on then but not this time...15:04
vegombreiActionParsnip1: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV790 [Radeon HD 4800 Series]15:05
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piciisstupidgod i hate ati15:05
albertohi, is anyone here using a hpmini 2133 with ubuntu? thanks15:06
ActionParsnip1vegombrei: if the driver has been offered then you can try: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager15:06
MASARUwotapiciisstupid: try talking to the guys on #ati. they are all like "THEN ITS YOUR COMPUTER THATS AT FAULT" whenever you ask them why ati has such unstable linux drivers ;/15:06
albertoI would like to know is if it posible to use 3d, this is really slow15:06
ActionParsnip1vegombrei: when its done press ALT+F2   and run: compiz --replace15:06
albertothanks15:06
Slissok I dd-ed a disk with an ubuntu 9.10 os on it to an other machine in an lvm partition. I try to start it via kvm but I am thrown into a busybox console telling me the disk id isn' t available... how to solve this?15:06
aaron11Hi15:07
aaron11I want to know why a terminal opens up in my desk 3 when ever I boot15:07
aaron11I want to know why a terminal opens up in my desk 3 when ever I boot15:08
garrettkI'm trying up upgrade python2.6-minimal, but the install script is attempting to create the directory /usr/local/lib/python2.6 - unfortunately, this is an NFS mount, read-only, so that is failing.  I can't unmount it, because it's in use.  How can I get this to complete?15:09
aaron11Hello!15:09
SlissI can enter the boot and alter the kernel to a correct UUID but how15:09
aaron11ok15:09
aaron11did anyone see any question asked by me15:09
vegombreiActionParsnip1: done .. it did somekinda screen refresh and its back15:09
aaron11I want to know why a terminal opens up in my desk 2 when ever I boot15:10
jelly-bean1after my karmic upgrade on ubuntu server, ssh is SUPER slow to connect to that machine. it takes 3-5 minutes and sometimes doesn't get in so u have to retry. when u get into ssh its snappy after that. any ideas what it could be?15:10
innuhey, Is there a program for cutting (pages) pdf files using command line?15:10
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Walexjelly-bean1: usually some DNS issue, like the name of the system not being in '/etc/hosts'.15:11
grndslmslam15:11
llutzinnu: look at pdfjam15:11
innullutz, ok, thanks15:11
piciisstupidaaron11 do u have it set up to do that15:12
newbie123how can a build an optimized .deb package?15:12
aaron11piciisstupid: No.15:12
jelly-bean1Walex: the hostname is in /etc/hosts pointed to 127.0.0.115:13
aaron11piciisstupid: Weird eh15:13
ronnyhi15:13
newbie123i just downloaded sources, via apt-get source15:13
newbie123and right now, i would like to set compiler FLAGS n make opts.15:13
ronnyis there ant command to uninstall all packages that arent part of the default install15:13
newbie123someone?15:13
ronny*any15:13
DunasHaving a problem where 9.10 will not wake from hibernate, although sleep seems to be ok. Ubuntu 9.10, Intel E5200 @2.5GHz, ATI HD4830, 4GB DDR2 generic brand RAM, both keyboard and monitor are USB. It's always a hard lock, although the power remains running to the keyboard (backlight stays on) and I can see the wifi indicator on the USB adapter flashing.15:13
piciisstupidyea it is weird15:14
kekerssome  body help me ... iwant to install vga driver ati radeon hd 4200 ?? how15:15
WalexDunas: thanks for letting us kn ow.15:15
durreI have ubuntu 7.04. is there a way of using apt-get install... without having to upgrade to 8.10, 9.04 etc?15:15
aaron11 !help | kekale15:15
ubottukekale: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)15:15
durrelike, some secret repository that I dont know of15:15
Aciidwhat is the best dvd burner for karmic?15:15
DunasWalex, I was kind of hoping someone had had the same problem and could at least point me to a temporary fix. :X15:15
epinky!best | Aciid15:15
Aciiddont start with that epinky15:16
AciidI want the most feature filled dvd burner15:16
Aciid==best15:16
ikoniaepinky: try some - see what you like15:16
BluesKaj!best15:16
ikoniasorry15:16
ikoniaAciid: try some - see what you like, easy to install/uninstall15:16
MaSSaSlaYeRJockey installs bcmwl but it gives an eroor howw do i fix it ?? it says on boot : bvmwl(5.10.91.9+bdcom)... FAIL!15:16
epinky!ping15:17
ubottuAciid: Usually, there is no single "best" application to perform a given task. It's up to you to choose, depending on your preferences, features you require, and other factors. Do NOT take polls in the channel. If you insist on getting people's opinions, ask BestBot in #ubuntu-bots.15:17
ubottuHere I am, brain the size of a planet and you expect me to respond to a ping? How depressing.15:17
AciidI have brasero right now, but it doens't allow that many modifications to burn settings15:17
WalexDunas: because ghybernation is a problem-free feature that is guaranteed to work in nearly all cases, and when it does not work there is always an easy fix? :-)15:17
ikoniaAciid: try some of the others15:17
shutdownitjelly-bean1: Try to disable "GSSAPIAuthentication no" in sshd_config15:17
terrorinkeerm sorry about that i just accidently closed irc15:18
epinkyAciid: k3b is an alternative15:18
shutdownitjelly-bean1: I mean change "GSSAPIAAuthentication yes " to "GSSAPIAuthentication no" in sshd_config15:18
c0p3rn1cpff I'm having trouble mounting my usb disk with root:root rights, I need it to make a chroot jail there :s15:18
ActionParsnip!burner | Aciid15:18
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c0p3rn1cI expected that the following command would mount the dir with root permissions, but it's still my default user: sudo mkdir /media/USBHDD;sudo chown root:root /media/USBHDD;sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/USBHDD -o uid=root,gid=root15:18
ubottuAciid: CD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, brasero, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto15:19
jelly-bean1shutdownit: k just tried that too and restarted sshd but no improvement15:19
MaSSaSlaYeRJockey installs bcmwl but it gives an error how do i fix it ?? it says on boot : bvmwl(5.10.91.9+bdcom)... FAIL!15:19
llutzc0p3rn1c: what filesystem?15:19
ActionParsnip!burner15:19
c0p3rn1cllutz, ntfs15:19
ubottuCD/DVD Burning software: K3b (KDE), gnomebaker, brasero, serpentine, graveman, Nautilus-CD-Burner, GToaster, xcdroast (GNOME), wodim (terminal-based). Burning .iso files: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto15:19
isolat3dsh33pIs there any difference between XFree86 in 9.04 and 9.10?15:20
ikoniaisolat3dsh33p: slightly later version15:20
AciidI think it's brasero for me now15:20
Aciidthanks thou =)15:20
Aciid#ubuntu great community15:20
isolat3dsh33pikonia: I'm trying to edit the configuration file, I'm not sure where is it located, can't find it in /etc/X11/15:21
c0p3rn1cisolat3dsh33p, X works better in 9.10 for me15:21
kermitwhy do flash videos in firefox not have sound in 9.10? they did in 9.0415:21
lnghi! why can't I see php5-geoip?15:21
ikoniaisolat3dsh33p: there is no config file by default, it's dynamic, although you can create one15:21
ikonialng: what do you mean can't see15:21
c0p3rn1cisolat3dsh33p, I have less problems with dual screen functionality15:22
jelly-bean1ssh -vvv reveals it is spending a long time trying different ssh keys15:22
jelly-bean1debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply15:22
isolat3dsh33pc0p3rn1c: Yeah, indeed it is. Btw, I'm not facing problem for dual screen functionality, haven't tested it yet though. I'm trying to configure my keyboard. If I could15:23
nine_Can I make a for-loop in a shellscript that will count up a variable with 0001 0002 0003 0004 and so on?15:23
isolat3dsh33pikonia: Thanks for the info dude :)15:23
grawitynine_: For what exact reason? There are several ways.15:23
raphael__Hi all !15:23
jelly-bean1debug1: Next authentication method: publickey15:23
jelly-bean1why would sshd hang trying to   process keys during connect?15:24
nine_grawity: I want to merge files with pdftk that I already have burst. pdftk will split th pages to pg_0001.pdf, pdf_0002.pdf and so on-.I can't find out how to change that...15:24
jelly-bean1while its accepting an ssh connection the system becomes unresponsive to other ssh connections until the connection is either closed or the user gets in15:24
terrorinkweird15:25
c3lI need to make a gif image (a moving one) what tool should I use?15:25
grawitynine_: Try 'echo pg_{0001..0200}.pdf' and see if that's what you need.15:25
terrorinkwhat kinda connection u got jelly15:25
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ActionParsnipc3l: gimp can do it15:25
c3lActionParsnip, it can? ;O15:25
nine_grawity:: May work. I'll see. thnx15:26
ActionParsnipc3l: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Simple_Animations/15:26
c3lActionParsnip, many thanks15:26
epinkyc3l: or gifsicle15:26
c3lokay15:27
MaSSaSlaYeRWhy doesn't Jockey want to activate My Drivers!!! :@15:27
fogravenI need help finding Phatch, says its installed in the Ubuntu software center, but it is nowhere to be found on the main menu.15:27
erUSULfograven: alt + f2 --> fatch15:28
kinja-sheepMaSSaSlaYeR: "aptitude search phatch"15:28
iceroot_fograven: sudo apt-get install phatch15:29
kinja-sheepMaSSaSlaYeR: Keep looking. It is somewhere, maybe under Accessories or Graphics.15:29
nic3can anyone pls see this if you know..http://paste.ubuntu.com/342766/15:29
nic3http://paste.ubuntu.com/342766/15:29
MaSSaSlaYeRwhat has jockey to do with phatch kinja-sheep15:29
kinja-sheepMaSSaSlaYeR: Whoops. Wrong user.15:29
gentakojimajoin #fedora15:30
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gentakojimasorry15:30
iceroot_nic3: Is it in use by another program? Did you configure it properly with setserial? Please read the FAQ at http://open.nit.ca/wiki/?WvDial15:30
nic3i dont know how to configur it15:30
MaSSaSlaYeRWhy doesn't Jockey want to activate My Drivers!!! :@ HP 2133 | Ubuntu Server 9.10 | Xfce415:30
skaI get a split screen problem when my resolution is 1600x1200 (display resolution) but I can't drop the refresh rate down to anything below 76hz15:30
iceroot_nic3: reading the FAQ?15:30
ddocity.org15:30
nic3no about setserial.within modem, which one do i need ot read15:31
skaShould I go and edit my xorg.conf?15:31
djyoxHello everyone, I have a quick question. I was running a sudo apt-get install and my terminal was closed by someone, and now it appears that the program is still being downloaded and installed OR things are now totally messed up... any help?15:31
iceroot_nic3: man setserial15:32
nic3 man setserial15:32
nic3No manual entry for setserial15:32
iceroot_nic3: then its not installed. sudo apt-get install setserial15:32
iceroot_nic3: then  man setserial15:32
albertoIS POSIBLE TO HAVE 3D COMPIZ WORKING IN UBUNTU 9.04 IN HP MINI 213315:33
albertothanks15:33
grawityalberto: NO NEED TO SHOUT15:33
grawitythanks15:33
iceroot_alberto: why not?15:33
CShadowRunoh noes :(15:34
CShadowRunnot ubottu D:15:34
fogravenCan I just say... I love Ubuntu.15:34
GlowballIs there any way to turn my screen output by 90 degrees? (Using NVidia 190.42 driver)15:34
albertoiceroot_: VIA chrome 9 chipset, i think my via driver from via dont have 3d hability15:34
albertoiceroot_: :_(15:34
llutzGlowball: xrandr15:34
albertoiceroot_: is better than VESA, but, my desktop is very .. i dont know15:34
albertonot a 2009 desktop15:34
albertoyou know?15:34
albertoxD15:34
albertounderstand me?15:34
iceroot_!enter | alberto15:34
iceroot_alberto: stop that spam15:35
albertowhat spam?15:35
vegombreihow do get emerald theme manager to execute the theme15:35
kinja-sheep!emerald | vegombrei15:35
kinja-sheepOh duh.15:35
iceroot_alberto: keep your questions short in one line, dont flodd the channeö15:35
albertook15:35
Glowballllutz: Haha, that one made me laugh :) There's an option to input a transformation matrix! Epic! Thanks :)15:35
albertois canonical paying you?15:35
kinja-sheepvegombrei: Emerald is not supported. You're encouraged to ditch Emerald and start using Compiz.15:35
nine_grawity: Won't work for me.  Can you place that in a for-loop?15:35
nic3iceroot_: i went through setserial, is there any command i need to run exactly?15:35
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djyoxanyone good with apt-get?15:36
iceroot_nic3: dont know not using it. doesnt the manpage tell you?15:36
ikoniadjyox: just ask your question15:36
djyoxor if thats even the progam I need to be running15:36
iceroot_djyox: just ask the question in one line with usefull details (error messages and so on)15:36
albertoiceroot_: a la jota jota, que bailan los perros, levantan la pata y muestran los huevos15:37
thiebaude!es15:37
coz_another net split?  geez15:38
bishophello15:38
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coz_by the way guys... if anyone want to change their gdm them   it's really quite simple15:39
djyoxI ran apt-get install, my terminal was closed, I looked to try to clear it/stop it but it says its locked15:39
fograveniceroot_: thanks man that did it15:39
iceroot_fograven: np15:39
epinkydjyox: check with "ps -waux | grep apt"15:40
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.15:40
tobiaszwhy does my amsn tray icon disappear frequently?15:40
coz_whoa15:40
nic3does anyone use photon+ here?15:40
coz_nic3,   I do not ...sorry15:40
bishophey floodbot215:40
djyoxiceroot_: it spit out a few lines, should I copy/paste here?15:40
thiebaudewhat is supybot?15:41
iceroot_!paste | djyox15:41
ubottudjyox: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic15:41
kinja-sheepthiebaude: http://tinyurl.com/yg9y64d15:41
djyoxalright, so what am I looking for within this?15:42
thiebaudekinja-sheep, thanks15:42
DJonesthiebaude: Its a cross platform IRC bot that ubottu is based on, have a look at https://www.ohloh.net/p/supybot15:42
djyoxiceroot_: not terminal, not the paste15:42
thiebaudeahh ok15:42
djyoxin terminal*15:42
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iceroot_djyox: sorry, dont understand15:43
alabdIs it possible to know what do all close source softwares do ?15:43
CShadowRunalabd not easily, no15:43
CShadowRunnot legally really either15:44
djyoxiceroot_: Sorry, I'm tired. I ran ps -waux | grep apt15:44
alabdyou mean debuging is not easy yes CShadowRun ?15:44
iceroot_!ot | alberto15:44
djyoxiceroot_: What am I looking for in this? it doesn't mean anything to me15:44
ubottualberto: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!15:44
CShadowRunalabd: debugging is impossible, you don't have the code, even if you could find out what was wrong you couldn't fix it15:44
jelly-bean1so its the authentication process that is slow since upgrading to karmic. it is also slow during the ltsp thin client user login process15:45
nic3is this any problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342777/15:45
iceroot_djyox: what happen if you use sudo apt-get install something -s15:45
iceroot_djyox: that error we want15:45
nibblerhow can i change the properties of my panel (taskbar) when there is no unoccupied space to right-click?15:45
jelly-bean1using `passwd` to reset user passwords is taking a super long time too15:45
jelly-bean1but htop shows system load is way low and everything not involving authentication is fast15:46
alabdCShadowRun: some do debugging with disassembler15:46
iceroot_jelly-bean1: getent passwd    is working faster?15:46
djyoxiceroot_: Never mind, I just checked again and its working. I was trying to apt-get autoclean, but before dinner chow it wasn't working, however, now it ran and is working fine. Thanks for your help15:46
copernicwhy does sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/USBHDD -o uid=root,gid=root fail to work properly in ubuntu, I keep getting my standard user instead of the root user15:46
CShadowRunalabd: true, but it's just making things so difficult15:46
jelly-bean1iceroot_: what?15:46
iceroot_djyox: good to hear15:46
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xiongnibbler, This may not be the answer you want, but: Remove an item from the panel, diddle the panel, re-add the item?15:47
iceroot_jelly-bean1: i asked if getent passwd   is working faster then using passwd to change a password15:47
alabdCShadowRun: so it is possible in that way yes ? is that way possible for all softwares debugging ?15:47
Gwince|Worknibbler: Make some space on the taskbar.15:47
tobiaszwhy does my amsn tray icon disappear frequently?15:47
nibblerxiong: then instantly other icons occupie.... and yes thats ont the solution im looking for, cause i regularly need this15:47
CShadowRunalabd technically it's possible to open the executable in a hex editor and debug it in hex.15:48
jelly-bean1iceroot_: how would i test that?15:48
iceroot_jelly-bean1: typing  getent passwd15:48
psyferrehey #ubuntu.  I'm porting a LOT of code from windows to ubuntu and have a decent amount of unc paths being used for file access.  In looking through the samba docs it looks like I'm going to have to create a mount point on my system for every other machine on the network i need to access... is that correct?  Or is there some way I can just hit the shares via unc path name?15:48
CShadowRunalabd but, it's stupid. It'd actually be quicker/better to just rewrite the application from scratch...15:48
jelly-bean1maybe this has something to do with eCryptfs?15:48
djyoxiceroot_: do you know how to encrypt files for programs, and yet have those programs run as if everything was still in the file? Someone showed me a while back how they were doing it, but I don't remember15:48
djyox*still in the folder15:49
jelly-bean1iceroot_: it appears to dump the /etc/passwd file to the screen. no delay15:49
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psyferreoops... asking my question in #ubuntu-server.  My fault.15:50
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iceroot_jelly-bean1: yes its using /etc/passwd and also ldap and other things where that infos can be15:51
tobiaszstop ffs15:52
alabdCShadowRun: in that kind debugging  is it possible always to understand what software do after running15:54
coz_another split  darn15:54
CShadowRunalabd i suggest you start learning to program before even comprehending these questions15:54
CShadowRunI've been programming for about 10 years and they are on the edge of my knowledge15:54
tobiaszwhere does google chrome store it's plugins?15:55
copernicmount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/USBHDD -o uid=root,gid=root , fails to mount with root as owner, any idea why ?(seems to be ubuntu specific)15:55
alabdCShadowRun: these question are not for using humble am writting some lines about open source softwares15:55
CShadowRunalabd: ahhhhh15:55
CShadowRunalabd: i'll query you and help explain some stuff then15:56
alabdthen there should be written while software is not open source what will happen CShadowRun thanks15:56
adalal1guys, quick help,15:57
tobiaszanyone know?15:57
adalal1how do you scan for networks on commandline?15:57
adalal1wifi networks15:57
kermithow do i fix flash sound in firefox?  it stopped worknig since i upgraded to 9.1015:57
adalal1anyone?15:58
kermitadalal1: iwlist scanning15:58
xoverwhere can i find into on sysv15:58
xoverI want to know what check and abort do?15:59
tobiaszwhere does google chrome store it's plugins?15:59
tobiaszwhere does google chrome store it's plugins?15:59
tobiaszSTOP IT16:00
adalal1annyone in the room that can help me with connecting a to a wifi network via command line?16:00
tobiaszSTOP16:00
tobiaszwhat's wrong with this channel16:00
Picitobiasz: Its a netsplit, yelling at it won't make it stop.16:00
tobiaszwhere does google chrome store it's plugins?16:01
Picitobiasz: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit , see also http://announce.freenode.net16:01
tobiaszit is happening quite too often16:01
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vs93tarashey all16:02
nozeslol16:02
manishhey16:02
skaI knew that xorg.conf.good was there for a reason :)16:02
nozeslol16:02
Data-acelusers16:02
vs93tarasokay here's my dilemma16:02
vs93tarasi am running off my livecd now16:03
manishso i was lukin' for a bit of help here,just installed xubuntu16:03
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vs93tarasi have two hard drives, and i would like to install on the smaller one, and make the other my /home16:03
^Spartano^ciao a tutti16:03
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vs93tarasbut i can't get to grub for that one, and it only goes to the grub from a previous installation on the bigger drive16:04
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Exaltiahello there16:04
vs93tarasany ideas?16:05
Cube``1hey, is there any small nice project that needs some documentation/tutorial?16:05
Exaltiamkisofs -J -l -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -bootinfo-16:05
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Exaltiatable -z -iso-level 4 -c isolinux/iboot.cat -o ./autoinstall.iso16:05
Exaltia newiso/ retures error message : genisoimage: Uh oh, I cant find the boot catalog directory '../isolinux'!, any help, please?16:05
vs93tarasnothin?16:06
jelly-bean1why does authentication take forever on karmic? jaunty was fine16:07
ctmjradalal1: sudo iwlist "interface" scan  interface being your wifi ie wlan0 without ""16:07
Cube``1jelly-bean1: what kinda authentication?16:07
jelly-bean1Cube``1: all kinds as far as i can tell: ssh, sudo, gdm user login, passwd, etc.16:08
vs93tarasrepeat for anyone new who came in16:09
thevishycan anyone tell why my ubuntu box is getting slow ?16:10
illuminarisMy sound is not working for some reason. I have just installed a fresh 9.10 CD less than a week ago. I have headphones and speakers plugged in. I ran a System -> Admin -> System Test and it did not work. I'm not really sure where to start.16:10
jongbergshi, how would i enable remote desktop connection connected thru ssh?16:10
thevishyit takes a lot time to switch between tabs in firefox etc16:10
vs93tarasi am trying to get ubuntu to boot from one of two hard drives, yet all i can get to is the grub from the previous installation on my *other* hard drive, which i now want to save for /home16:10
jongbergs!sound | illuminaris16:10
ubottuilluminaris: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP316:11
Cube``1jelly-bean1: ow16:11
vs93tarasnay ideas??16:11
jongbergshi, how would i enable remote desktop connection connected thru ssh?16:11
skaThats easy..16:11
skajongbergs: first you need to port forward SSH as usual..16:11
sykjongbergs, open-ssh16:12
sykmaybe16:12
skajongbergs: oops.. network splits16:12
jelly-bean1ssh authentication takes like 5 minutes16:12
jelly-bean1before the upgrade it was instant since its on the LAN16:12
IcyJAfter installing updates on Ubuntu 9.10 a week or two ago, I now have to run "sudo service cups start" and "sudo modprobe vboxnetflt" to print or run Virtualbox, respectively.  How do I get these run at startup like they used to?16:12
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Templar_Xionska, easier than stopping these server splits?16:12
adalal15 mins... lol16:12
vs93taraso well16:12
skaThen have the desktop allow remote desktop in ubuntu, however you want to.16:12
illuminarisjongbergs, I am unable to double click on volume control. it just brings up a volume bar. All I can do is right click and preferences, but there is no 'file' option and no 'ALSA' option I can find.16:12
jongbergsska: what i want is enable remote desktop connection while im connected to ssh16:12
haven489hey guyz, the Dell latitude d400 will it run ubuntu well?16:13
epinkyjongbergs: check "vncviewer -via"16:13
skajongbergs: Then vncviewer -compresslevel 9 -quality 1 -via myhost.com 192.168.1.10016:13
Exaltiahaven489, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesDesktops16:13
skajongbergs: assuming he's behind a firewall of course.16:13
mmo|Can anyone tell me how to make my thinkpad trackpoint work in Ubuntu 9.10? I have tried gpointing but it doesnt really do anything. Also I have tried copying that file into the policy dir but it does not work either (after restart)16:13
haven489Exaltia: thanks, this helped16:14
skajongbergs: I don't know how to do that, but I suppose you can enable desktop via commandline..16:14
skajongbergs: i've never done it.16:14
mwhello everybody. i just started strigi/nepomuk and they did the indexing. but, how do i search now? i cannot find a strigi client wicht should be preinstalled... using kubuntu karmic btw.16:15
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mwhello everybody. i just started strigi/nepomuk and they did the indexing. but, how do i search now? i cannot find a strigi client wicht should be preinstalled... using kubuntu karmic btw.16:15
jongbergsska: i mean, instead of going to the remote computer, since you can ssh, you do not need to go to System > Preferences > Remote Desktop and configure it..just doing it in command line16:15
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JuJuBeeim trying to install amarok2.2.1 manually in ubuntu Jaunty and get the following error  Could NOT find Taglib (missing: TAGLIB_INCLUDES TAGLIB_LIBRARIES)16:16
JuJuBee  while trying to  cmake .. -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix`16:16
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IcyJjelly-bean1:  I use ssh on ubuntu 9.10, connects very fast.  Maybe you could try to delete your ~/.ssh folder and retry the connection.16:16
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Kubitthis channel dost have issues with flood16:17
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Kubithonestly what the hell :P16:18
m0arI want to have the same wallpaper on each monitor. NOT tiled, not stretched or centered but one on each!  Possible in gnome?16:18
Mischkohello16:18
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PiciKubit: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit , see also http://announce.freenode.net16:18
m0arI want to have the same wallpaper on each monitor. NOT tiled, not16:18
m0ar              stretched or centered but one on each!  Possible in gnome?16:18
IcyJAfter installing updates on Ubuntu 9.10 a week or two ago, I now have to run "sudo service cups start" and "sudo modprobe vboxnetflt" to print or run Virtualbox, respectively.  Can I have these cmds run at startup like they used to?16:19
KubitPici: understood16:19
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KubitPici: thanks for the info :P16:19
PiciKubit: np16:19
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m0arI want to have the same wallpaper on each monitor. NOT tiled, not stretched or centered but one on each!  Possible in gnome?16:20
mmo|Can anyone tell me how to make my thinkpad trackpoint work in Ubuntu 9.10? I have tried gpointing but it doesnt really do anything. Also I have tried copying that file into the policy dir but it does not work either (after restart)16:21
JuJuBeeHow do I install TagLib1.6 in Jaunty?16:21
aminehi, does anybody know how to change CPU frequency using D-Bus ?16:22
m0arI want to have the same wallpaper on each monitor. NOT tiled, not stretched or centered but one on each!  Possible in gnome?16:23
m0arWtf is up with all the netsplits?16:23
CShadowRunm0ar: freenode's being DDoS'd16:23
Picim0ar: see http://announce.freenode.net16:23
LordXe-gnulots of script kiddies attacking freenode lately16:24
m0arCShadowRun, Pici:  Fuck them D:16:24
CShadowRunindeed16:24
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m0arCShadowRun: Seriously, they have NO reason at all16:24
JuJuBeeDeath to the script kiddies!16:25
c3lwhy would someone DDoS freenode?16:25
CShadowRunIt's school holidays, skiddies are out in force16:25
CShadowRunThat's just how it is.16:25
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c3lbut only a pure retard would harm something that is on their own side, like freenode. go fuck up microsoft instead16:26
m0arI want to have the same wallpaper on each monitor. NOT tiled, not stretched or centered but one on each!  Possible in gnome?16:26
boomernangsomeone tried ubuntu at home and couldnt get modern warfare 2 to work - so DDoS is the answer16:26
m0arc3l: Point16:26
Flare183!language | c3l16:26
ubottuc3l: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.16:26
PiciCan we please try to keep this channel on topic. #ubuntu-offtopic for other chatter.  Thanks!16:26
* Flare183 agrees with Pici 16:26
qwyethyeah, c31, you should know better than to use the M word in here16:26
c3lqwyeth, :D16:27
m0arqwyeth: You mean MICROSOFT? c:16:27
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c3lm0ar, schhh! do not speak about the one that cannot be spoken about16:28
m0arc3l: voldemor--  Oh16:28
arthurjohnsonHaving an issue with 9.10.  Can't find where to un-set "nolisten" in the GDM configuration.  Need to turn it off to run x2x16:28
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Exaltiai have trouble making a unattended iso : genisoimage: Uh oh, I cant find the boot catalog directory 'isolinux'!16:31
Exaltia, anyone has an idea?16:31
johnyjj2hello16:31
manishhello ppl,quick question-how do you run pdf files in xubuntu? can't find a pdf viewer....m a newbie16:32
Seveasmanish, install evince16:32
DaZmanish: xpdf, evince16:32
testihow can i force resolution 1680x1050? System > Settings > Display just shows 1360x768, and a few 4:3 resolutions. EDID fails because the KVM switch cannot pass it. However - where does "Display" get this not so usual resolution from and why can't I enter my own resolutions or why is there no bigger set of resolutions available. It's not that there are resolutions that are compatible with all screens.16:32
manishthnx16:32
hackeltesti:  man xorg.conf16:33
ehabmostafahi16:36
thiscomputeron an acer aspire one using xubuntu 9.04 what's the best keyboard layout to choose hopping to add the superl key16:36
ViridianFireHey does anyone know how to make a grub splash screen? all the tutorials I found online are old16:36
mrqismrxdoes the standard ubuntu 9.10 come with a firewall?16:38
epinkymrqismrx: yes, it's called iptables, you can configure also ufw16:39
testihackel, thanks. That's what I'm gonna do later. First I'd like to figure out why that tool seems to show a random set of resolutions instead of all possible resolutions OR in the restrictive case only resolutions that are supported by every single monitor (since EDID fails) - How are these resolutions determined?16:39
illuminarisMy sound currently does not work properly. I have headphones and speakers plugged in, but the sound will only come out of the headphones, and it comes out at a very very low volume even though it's turned all the way up on the headphones and PC. I've tried the Ubuntu Sound Troubleshooting guide and it didn't help.16:40
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epinky!ufw | mrqismrx16:40
ubottumrqismrx: Ubuntu, like any other linux  distribution, has firewall capabilities built-in. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Uncomplicated_Firewall_ufw), or 'iptables' (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo). GUI applications such as Firestarter/Gufw (Gnome) or Guarddog (KDE) also exist16:40
aroonihow do i get the temperature of the cpu from the command line?16:40
iceroot_arooni: lm-sensors16:40
mrqismrxepinky, but do I need to do something if I just want standard firewall features? like for example window has a firewall that comes with the OS. I understand that there is better firewalls but I just want some standard security.16:40
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hackeltesti:  It shows whatever your xorg driver reports..  Sure the KVM doesn't send some default edid info?16:41
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epinkymrqismrx: use ufw, but by default you have "standard" security16:42
mrqismrxepinky, ok cool thanks =) then I will look that up when I get more familiar with ubuntu. one thing at the time. standard will do for now.16:42
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droidehi16:43
droideanyone with javapos experience on ubuntu?16:44
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nibblermy scaling feature in grdc is greyed out, any idea how to enable it?16:46
testihackel, oh - it seems to fail getting EDID. read-edid produces an empty file. Don't know which other tool to use.16:46
iceroot_instead of launchpad and the bug-reporter from the cli, isnt there a real bugzilla?16:46
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cluelesswhere is the .logout file in Ubuntu.  I know it's in my home directory but I can't find it16:47
bharathidoes any one know how to bypass dansgaurdian in ubuntu16:47
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kermitlord Chrome is fast, is it prefetching links!?16:49
coderdad_man I am having problems with installing ruby using apt-get16:49
AssilHi ! i need help with netbook remix 9.10 please ! i cant install it ... anyone ?16:49
manishcan anyone tell me how to install evince?16:50
epinky!unr | Assil16:50
ubottuAssil: Ubuntu Netbook Remix is a slightly altered version of Ubuntu, optimised for small screens. For more information, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UNR - support in #ubuntu16:50
iceroot_kermit: no, its using a different javascript-engine16:51
isolat3dsh33pkermit: Try open a large svg file. Do you face any problem with it?16:51
iceroot_manish: sudo apt-get install evince16:51
kermitisolat3dsh33p: i'll try if you give me the link to one16:51
manishiceroot-thnx16:52
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Assilguys ! i need help installing UNR on my netbook Packard bell DoT S16:53
Assilafter booting from the usb boot drive16:54
isolat3dsh33pkermit: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Stachledraht_DDos_Attack.svg try this :)16:54
Assili have the menu16:54
Assilthen i select intall ubuntu16:54
isolat3dsh33pand then?16:54
jas72zamarok will not play my mp3 tracks using ubuntu 9.04 banshee rhythm player vlc or work fine16:54
Assilafter that i have the logo of ubuntu, but then nothing16:54
Assiljust a blank screen16:55
kermitisolat3dsh33p: yeah, it has issues with that16:55
Assilno sign of activity16:55
iceroot_!enter | Assil16:55
ubottuAssil: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!16:55
isolat3dsh33pkermit: see... :D16:55
isolat3dsh33pAssil: For how long?16:55
Assilhow long what ?16:55
isolat3dsh33pAssil: The black screen phenomenon :)16:56
Assilit just stays like that ..............16:57
Ashfire908yeehaw.16:57
isolat3dsh33pDDoS D:16:58
Assili tried the other option of trying ubuntu, but it goes just the sae way, except there's no logo !16:58
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manishi can't get evince to install, and when i try the apt-get,it says evince is already in its latest version16:58
manishand i can't find it on my drive16:58
tweaktGiven a list of packages, what's the easiest way to generate a list of all dependencies (and sub-dependencies)?16:59
macomanish: /usr/bin/evince ?16:59
isolat3dsh33pAssil: Which installation method are you using? LiveCD or the alternate install?16:59
redDEADresolvemanish, its as easy as right clicking on the menu16:59
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Ashfire908Hi, I've got an issue with GDM and XDMCP. I've got it all working, but since I'm just testing I'm disconnecting and reconnecting, and I'm hitting the max connections from one host, however I'm not connected more than once at a time. How do I flush out the dead connections from gdm?16:59
perlsyntaxDoes anyone know how to setup a virgin modile usb modem on linux i just got it16:59
redDEADresolvemanish, then select edit menus, scroll down to documents and check the document viewer box16:59
redDEADresolvemanish, you can also launch it by hitting alt+f2 and typing in evince17:00
perlsyntaxDoes anyone know how to setup a usb modem from virgin usb modem?17:00
ubuntuпривет всем17:00
Assilisolat3dsh33p : i'm booting from A usb drive17:00
perlsyntaxi new at this o is there something i need to get for it.17:00
epinky!ru | ubuntu17:00
ubottuubuntu: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke17:00
perlsyntax?17:00
ubuntuкак у вас дела17:00
perlsyntaxi useing ubuntu 9.1017:01
ubuntukak u vas dela17:01
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perlsyntaxhello17:01
mezquitale!patience | perlsyntax17:01
ubottuperlsyntax: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. You can search https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org while you wait.17:01
redDEADresolvemanish, did you get it?17:01
plunkedhaiz, some people really dont understand how community channels work17:01
Assilsolat3dsh33p : i Created a UNR flash drive, and then when strying to install i had that issue17:02
manishredDEADresolve-it worked,but how i can't find it in /usr/bin.....sorry it seems stupid,i'm using linux for the first time17:02
isolat3dsh33p!livecd | Assil17:02
ubottuAssil: The Ubuntu Desktop CD is a "LiveCD" which can be run without altering existing files on your harddrive. Especially useful for testing your hardware's compatibility, it also includes an install option.17:02
pppWEDI17:02
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pppHEJA17:03
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pppWYPIERDALAĆ17:03
Pici!pl | ppp17:03
redDEADresolvemanish, it is usr/bin/evince in ubuntu 9.1017:03
ubottuppp: Na tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.17:03
ppphey17:03
Assilisolat3dsh33p : it's a netbook man !! it doesn't have a CD drive !!17:03
redDEADresolveperlsynatax, set it up in windows first then ubuntu should automically discover it when you plug it in17:03
manishand i don't suppose my using xubuntu 9.10 makes a difference?17:04
Assilisolat3dsh33p : i said i was installing UNR : ubuntu netbook remix !!!17:04
pppPan17:04
ppppan17:04
mezquitaleAssil, what is the problem you are having with unr?17:04
pppyhdyuehdzjfdjfhiesurhdfhskfheiufdf17:04
red__HELP PLEASE - I cant watch DVD's or play mp3 some one told me to install codex but where from?17:04
redDEADresolvemanish, i have a xfce install i could double check but IT should be in the same place17:04
Picippp: Please stop.17:04
pppKKS LECH17:04
redDEADresolvered__, http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/07/medibuntu-for-ubuntu-910-karmic-koala.html17:05
redDEADresolvered__, or install ubuntu-restricted extras from the ubuntu store17:05
redDEADresolvered__, well you should do them both17:05
Assilmezquitale : i can't install it ... , after booting from my unr flash drive, i have the menu an then select install ubuntu; Then the logo of ubuntu appears, but after, it just goes blank !!17:06
redDEADresolvemanish, is it in that folder. if i get up and load xfce and it is im gonna be pissed17:06
isolat3dsh33pAssil: I'm sorry can't help :D17:06
Assilsolat3dsh33p : ok bro ! thanks anyway :)17:06
mezquitaleAssil, it sounds like it could be an issue with the graphics driver, can you try selecting the option to just try unr ?17:07
redDEADresolvered__, you ok now?17:07
Myth```How can I make the default directory a user starts in WRITEABLE with SSHD?17:08
mezquitaleyet another net split?17:08
jGarridoThis is the first time I've ever connected successfully on the first try, and now the server is going down??  :(17:08
Assilmezquitale: i tried that ! it just goes the same way, but no logo this time17:08
motowndull :(17:08
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redDEADresolveI windows and vista installed on a dual boot on two separate hard drives. Had grub automatically configure my setup and was able to select both. I changed the sata drive order and no I can't boot to vista. How do i rerun the grub configuration?17:09
mezquitalehave tro tried getting into a console using "ctrl-alt-f1"17:09
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perlsyntaxDoes anyone know how to get a MC760 to work on linux?17:10
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Myth`wow17:10
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Myth`woww17:10
perlsyntaxthe networkmanger will not pick it up17:10
mezquitaleAssil, have you  tried getting into a console using "ctrl-alt-f1"17:10
perlsyntaxi did setup on windows just fine.17:10
trism_redDEADresolve: is this on ubuntu 9.10? and does grub still work, you just can't boot vista?17:11
Assilmezquitale: no i didn't ... but let me try that now17:11
perlsyntax  i hope someone knows. Or show me a link to get it to work17:11
perlsyntax:)17:11
nunojpgmy workstation internal speaker doesn't work17:11
nunojpg9.10 - Integrated High Definition audio with ADI1884 codec, 3D audio compliant with AC'97 Rev. 2.3, internal PC speaker17:11
redDEADresolvetrism_, yeah grub still works, ubuntu and vista boot fine if I use the bios to change there boot order. grub just not configured right17:11
DiverdudeHow do i avoid that screenlets are getting hidden/removed when i press "click here to hide all windows and show the desktop"  down in left corner?17:12
trism_redDEADresolve: I would try just running sudo update-grub; and let grub probe for the other os's again17:12
Assilmezquitale: Nothing :( still just a blank screen !!17:12
redDEADresolvetrism_, duh sometimes its the same things17:13
mezquitaleAssil, what netbook do you have?17:13
redDEADresolvetrism_, thanks buddy!17:13
AssilPackard bell dotS17:13
Diverdudeanyone?17:13
Assilmezquitale: packard bell dotS17:13
redDEADresolveperlsyntax, whats the model again17:13
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Homely_GirlHi, can anyone help me setup a Huawei modem on karmic?17:14
Homely_GirlThat's a 3 mobile b/band dongle17:14
mezquitaleAssil, you have a 64 bit version?17:14
redDEADresolveHomely_Girl, http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:sJz4-74FafoJ:tech.firdooze.com/2009/11/09/work-around-for-ubuntu-910-karmic-koala-huawei-modem-problem/+huawei+modem+Ubuntu+9.10&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a17:15
Homely_Girlthank you!! :)17:16
jero_ufrgsflood17:16
riverbirdwatch for trollbots - it's deep in here ..17:16
Diverdudeanyone?17:16
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Assilmezquitale: no ! ubuntu-9.10-netbook-remix-i386.iso is the version i have17:16
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mezquitaleAssil, have you tested your usb drive with another computer?17:17
Assilmezquitale: there's no problem with the usb drive, cuz i used it with gparted before that to partition my drives17:18
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michaeljwjrcan anyone tell me how to change the port in gnome xchat?17:19
Guest55262hi im getting this error when trying to play *any* video file  with VLC "Streaming / Transcoding failed: VLC could not open the encoder."17:19
jack_sprattHi I need to resize my root partition. My HDD has two partitions - root @ 30gb and /home at 50gb. I need to give root more space at the expense of /home. Both partitions are ext4. There is space on /home to take and give to root. Can I do the resize without losing all data?17:19
Guest55262jack_spratt, yes but i would strongly advise backing up data.17:20
jack_sprattGuest55262: great, what tool should I use? gparted? Is there any other preparation that I need to make to /home before decreasing its size?17:20
jero_ufrgsAlgum brasileiro que possa me ajudar com o MySQL?17:21
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lengend_why does i always get "futex_wait_queue_me" when i close firefox and i always have to end the process...sometimes it closes, sometimes it doesn't17:21
mherwegHello every1! Q: is amule still ok for finding and downloading music or are there better ways ?17:21
DopeGhotijack_spratt: Gparted should to the trick, but backing up one's data is always well-advised when mucking about with partitions.17:21
crypt-00jack_spratt, gparted will work. Be very careful not to shrink a partition too small17:21
mezquitaleAssil, im looking at the forums and I cant find anything for your machine, I would either open a new thread and try to get help that way, or just try 9.0417:22
crypt-00jack_spratt, you should see the amount used with gparted17:22
jack_sprattcrypt-00: by too small you mean beyond what is available in free space17:22
jack_sprattcrypt-00: OK.17:22
lengend_why does i always get "futex_wait_queue_me" when i close firefox and i always have to end the process...sometimes it closes, sometimes it doesn't?17:22
Vault_Кто подскажет, как установить и настроить VNC на Ubuntu 9.10???17:22
DopeGhoti!ru | Vault_17:22
ubottuVault_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke17:22
crypt-00jack_spratt, by too small i mean that plus 25% for a reasonable margin of error.17:22
aMuleAduGuest520così va bene?17:23
mezquitaleAssil, you can also try plugging the USB drive into different ports17:23
nesunoHi! Is there any program, that streams audio real-time over a network from a machine to another?17:23
jack_sprattcrypt-00: hmm, I'm glad I asked!17:24
Assilmezquitale: there is no problem with the usb drive or port :p it's fully functionning and was tried on different ports17:24
buttons840nesuno, the radio17:24
bitfoxnesun: are you italian?17:24
Assilmezquitale: actually i found a thread on a forum, but i still did not react there, i'm going to watch it, here's the link : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=134454617:24
IdleOnebuttons840: how was that helpful?17:25
crypt-00jack_spratt, remember, backup your data.... i have had good luck not loosing any data to partition resizes, however it is known to happen17:25
buttons840nesuno, there are programs that will do that, i'm not familiar with any; sorry for my jokes :)17:25
nesunobuttons840: and can it capture a common audio output (a game's alsa output) on the server side?17:25
mezquitaleAssil, you have a eee pc 901?17:25
wilhartW: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D725E4885719E34717:25
jack_sprattcrypt-00: Yes I will - have you ever resized with ext4 before?17:26
caja2_is there a COM port emulator for ubuntu?17:26
Assilmezquitale: no ! i have a dot S packard bell, but the problem described there seems the same17:26
Assilmezquitale: in the second post ...17:26
nesunobitfox: Only the name, I speak some italian.17:26
bitfoxnesuno: exactly, what are your needs?17:26
wilhartanyone know how to remove that repo it's not listed in sources.list17:26
DopeGhoticaja2_: how do you mean?17:26
caja2_DopeGhoti,  I want to send /dev/ttySx stuff to a usb receipt printer17:26
DopeGhotiwilhart: look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d17:26
nesunobitfox: A game in the server side making audio output. I want to her that output on another machine, which I can reach through LAN.17:27
bitfoxnesuno: Some month ago i read a topic about how to configure a web radio server on linux...17:27
buttons840nesuno, mediatomb is one, it can stream to devices like ps3 (which i would be interested in) but i don't know if it would work for what you need17:27
DopeGhoticaja2_: if you know the path of the printer, can you cat to it?17:27
mwoehlkehello, anyone know how to list a: installed packages and b: the contents of a package on an apt-based system?17:27
wilhartDopeGhoti: gotit! tnx17:27
mwoehlkepreferably without X17:28
caja2_DopeGhoti, path? URI?17:28
ekixmadboxi nedd help on mi compaq presario cq61 ubuntu 9.1017:28
ekixmadboxwireless disconnection automatic17:28
bitfoxnesun: ok, unfortunately i can't help you, i'm sorry17:28
ekixmadboxnot mather whats17:28
DopeGhotimwoehlke: list installed packages: "dpkg-query -l | grep 'ii'"17:28
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trism_mwoehlke: dpkg -L package_name lists the contents of a package17:28
DopeGhoticaja2_: what is the USB printer in terms of /dev/ location?17:28
mwoehlkeDopeGhoti, trism_: yup, sounds like what I need, thanks!17:28
carloqualcuno scrive italiano?17:29
caja2_DopeGhoti, that´s one thing, I dont know, how can i find out?17:29
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mwoehlkesheesh, I was looking at apt :-) (kind-of knew that was wrong, but... well I am used to rpm)17:29
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Guest58709qualcuno parla italiano?17:29
trismmwoehlke: apt-file will list contents too...of packages that aren't even installed which is nice17:29
jj77is there any way to share /home and my documents on the same partition/folders? thanks!17:29
Guest58709io no speak english17:30
riverbirdjack_spratt, i recently resized ext4, but it was on a fairly new install and not much data to concern.  all went fine17:30
jj77on xp/ubuntu17:30
mwoehlketrism: ah, 'repoquery' equivalent... thanks17:30
maco!it | Guest5870917:30
ubottuGuest58709: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)17:30
jack_sprattriverbird: thanks, looks like I've got nothing to worry about then17:30
nesunobitfox: I started to see icecast, and darkice, but they cast audio files. Darkcast can make input for icecast, which captures dsp or hw:0.0. But they are the line-ins.17:30
caja2_DopeGhoti, I tried echo test > ttyS* and got input/output error on each one17:31
mezquitaleAssil, some hardware can be tricky to work with linux, that is why you always have to check what youre buying, I have no problem with a netbook dell 110017:31
caja2_and there is no ttyUSB17:31
DopeGhoticaja2_: the USB printer wouldn't show as /dev/ttyS*17:31
LzrdKingwhat is a good dvd authoring program for ubuntu?17:32
DopeGhoticaja2_: unplug the printer, 'tail -f /var/log/dmesg', and plug it back in.  Any output?17:32
Assilmezquitale: Are u saying that i just let go, and put m$ window$ on my netbook ?17:32
caja2_DopeGhoti,  let me see17:32
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LzrdKingDopeGhoti is pronounced "dopefish"17:33
DopeGhotiLzrdKing: Yes it is.17:33
caja2_DopeGhoti, no output17:33
evil.дшые17:34
DopeGhoticaja2_: okay, try this:  ls /dev/bus/usb/ with the printer plugged and unplugged17:34
buttons840any good svg editing tools for ubuntu?17:34
mezquitaleAssil, I'm saying that it's going to be a little tricky, I suggest you start a thread of your own in newsgroups and put your machine's info since the issue is with your machine17:35
lluawhy can my windows pc ping my ubuntu pc, but ubuntu cant ping windows17:35
caja2_DopeGhoti, same output on both plugged/un17:35
buttons840llua, probably a firewall blocking pings on your windows17:35
Assilmezquitale: ok ! thanks for your help man :)17:35
lluabuttons840, hmm. thx17:35
DopeGhoticaja2_: hmm.  Not having dealt with USB printers much, I'm not sure what else to try..  Can you try to set it up as a generic pritner in System → Administration → Printing?17:36
caja2_DopeGhoti, the thing is that the POS application (Openbravo) I'm using supports /dev/ttyS*17:37
caja2_DopeGhoti, that's why I initially asked for a COM emulator17:37
qwyethI have here two Ubuntu 9.10 machines.  Each has a shared folder on the desktop, with the boxes checked for "share this folder" and "enable guest access."  When I try to browse to them from an XP machine, one of them can be accessed with an arbitrary username and a blank password, and the other cannot.17:38
caja2_DopeGhoti, the printer works with CUPS, but from the software (java) I don't get the desired output17:38
DopeGhoticaja2_: does it support /dev/lpr?17:38
caja2_tried javapos and nothing17:38
mezquitaleAssil, also, try 9.04 and see if it works on your machine17:38
caja2_I guess yes17:39
Assilmezquitale: is there a netbook version ?17:39
caja2_DopeGhoti,  I guess yes17:39
mezquitalelet me check17:39
qwyethThe ubuntu with the working samba share is 'VM', and the one that is not working is 'laptop.'  When VM tries to mount the share on Laptop, I see the share but get the error "Unable to mount location - Failed to mount Windows share."17:39
DopeGhoticaja2_: I think CUPS might be able to direct /dev/ttyS? into /dev/lpr, but I'm not certain.  I've not dealt much with serial printers.17:40
mezquitaleAssil, http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/17:40
DopeGhotiqwyeth: are both systems running a Samba server?17:40
caja2_DopeGhoti, ok, thanks for the help17:40
DopeGhoticaja2_: good luck!17:40
caja2_I think I'll have to try some other stuff17:40
caja2_thanks!17:40
qwyethDopeGhoti, both systems are running the flavor of Samba that is automatically installed when I clicked on "share this folder"17:40
mezquitaleAssil, make sure you download the correct version17:41
tomstomsI'm trying to install the proprietary drivers for ATI legacy on Jaunty. However, I get this error message. Can someone point me in the right direction? http://pastebin.com/dfdaaf6f17:41
Assilmezquitale: i will !17:41
qwyethand I selected Yes when asked to automatically configure permissions, on both machines17:41
DopeGhotiqwyeth: can 'laptop' access its own share?17:41
Perro_violetabuenas17:41
JonathanEllisI am about to install Ubuntu in a dual boot configuration having already installed Windows and got it partitioned as I want it (why do M$ make it so hard to have a mounted partition for the home directory as is common and sensible practice in linux?!!!). Now the problem is gparted doesnt recognise any partitions on the hard disk and sees the whole thing as unallocated. Windows boots quite happily and sees all the ntfs partitions. I have run gparted f17:42
qwyethDopeGhoti, no, it can't.17:42
DopeGhotiqwyeth: can you pastebin the output of 'sudo netstat -plnt'?17:42
Assilmezquitale: i on a bad shape :( my internet connection sucks !17:42
tomstomsIf anyone has any idea about my ATI problem, I'll give more info as needed too.17:43
Ploujhi17:43
Ploujwhat's the equivalent of gnome-session-save --gui --logout-dialog in hardy? (gnome 2.22)17:43
DopeGhotitomstoms: looks like the ATI driver you've downloaded doesn't support your kernel version based on that output.  Only a guess though.17:43
nastashi all. i'm trying to install some drivers and i'm getting errors. check here http://pastebin.ubuntu-gr.org/m78ef1e7d any idea?17:43
Assilmezquitale: i do really appreciate what you did for me :) thx again !  see you  ... :)17:43
mezquitaleAssil, no problem17:44
qwyethDopeGhoti, pastebin.org/6567617:44
tomstomsDopeGhoti, have you install the ATI driver successfully before?17:44
chiquesIs there a Linux app that's good for texting back and forth from Ubuntu17:44
DopeGhotichiques: you mean instant messaging, or SMS to and from cell phones?17:45
DopeGhotitomstoms: Sorry, I use Nvidia cards17:45
chiquesDopeGhoti, SMS to cell phones17:45
nasrullah1hi to all17:46
DopeGhotiqwyeth: again, on laptop, make a directory in /mnt for the share, and try 'mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.0/share /mnt/share' (with laptop's actual IP and share name)17:47
nasrullah1how to set up realplayer codecs in totem17:47
DopeGhotiqwyeth: qwyeth sudo as needed :)17:47
qwyethof course ^_^17:47
mezquitale!hello | nasrullah117:47
ubottunasrullah1: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!17:47
mmo|Can anyone tell me how to make my thinkpad trackpoint work in Ubuntu 9.10? I have tried gpointing but it doesnt really do anything. Also I have tried copying that file into the policy dir but it does not work either (after restart)17:47
tomstomsDopeGhoti, you were right. The kernel is too new (and any kernel on Jaunty is too new for the legacy ATI drivers.)17:47
grimtoothanybody ever had the problem that pidgin or empathy wont show any contacts?17:48
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tomstomsDopeGhoti, the problem is, when I suspend to RAM, I cannot resume. The screen stays black, and I'm thinking it's because I'm using the open source radeon driver instead?17:48
macogrimtooth: is empathy just not doing anything at all?17:48
mezquitalegrimtooth, yes, it's a setting that hides all offline users17:48
macogrimtooth: like it opens but doesnt connect or anything?17:48
grimtoothit says im connected and im aviable but no contacts are online17:48
DopeGhotitomstoms: I've had problems with STR as well sometimes. Have you tried hibernating?17:48
macooh17:49
grimtoothif i start up pidgin under windows it show 10 online17:49
grimtoothso thats weird17:49
tomstomsDopeGhoti, nope, not yet. I would prefer to use S2R though, and I might as well do a full shutdown instead of hibernate, since I don't mind waiting a few extra seconds to boot.17:49
DopeGhotitomstoms: you can isolate the ATI driver you're using as a cause by dropping to text-only console and testing with 'apmsleep'17:50
tomstomsDopeGhoti, it's strange, because on openSUSE 11.1, suspend/resume worked fine. Is there something it did differently?17:50
tomstomsDopeGhoti, you mean runlevel 1?17:50
DopeGhotitomstoms: to stop the X server, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop (save your data in open apps first, this will kill your X serveR)17:50
DopeGhotitomstoms: or three.17:50
tomstomsDopeGhoti, I thought runlevels 2,3,4 and 5 don't exist in Ubuntu?17:51
nasrullah1realplayer codecs for totem17:51
DopeGhotitomstoms: well, with 9.10, it uses upstart, but still has wrappers for runlevels17:51
tomstomsOkay, so when I do apmsleep, it will output any problem modules that may be interfering?17:51
DopeGhotitomstoms: apmsleep is the CLI tool to suspend to RAM :)17:51
DopeGhotitomstoms: (specifically, apmsleep --suspend)17:52
nasrullah1realplayer codecs for totem player17:52
plainhaoeh, trying to finally upgrade my gutsy to hardy. by changing my apt/sources.list from gutsy to hardy, did i hose anything?17:52
tomstomsDopeGhoti, oh, okay. And by not having the X server running, it will rule out the ATI driver?17:52
DopeGhotitomstoms: exactly :)17:53
tomstomsDopeGhoti, sounds awesome. Thank you! I will be back with a status update.17:53
DopeGhotiplainhao: is there a readon you didn't just use the update manager to upgrade?17:53
DopeGhotitomstoms: good luck!17:53
tdnI am trying to install Ubuntu from Alternate CD, but I get this error: Failed to determine the codename for the release.17:53
plainhaodoing through ssh17:53
DopeGhotiplainhao: the CLI tool would be 'do-release-upgrade' :)17:53
plainhaoDopeGhoti, tried that17:54
DopeGhotiplainhao: to what effect?17:54
grimtoothanybody ever had the problem that pidgin or empathy wont show any contacts?17:54
chiqueshas anyone tried this? http://john.mcclumpha.org/linux/Build_your_own_SMS_gateway_with_Ubuntu_Linux_and_Gammu/17:54
plainhaoChecking for a new ubuntu release17:54
plainhaocurrent dist not found in meta-release file17:54
plainhaoNo new release found17:54
DopeGhotigrimtooth: only when all my firends were offline17:54
ralf_eis there some guide available about how to get sources of a ubuntu package, apply a patch and build a new package? (concrete, nautilus and this patch https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167501#c34 which adds undo/redo support to nautilus - I'd like to test that change)17:54
tdnHow do I install Ubuntu Alternate from USB drive instaead of CDROM?17:55
DopeGhotiplainhao: apt-get update && do-release-upgrade17:55
plainhaodid that17:55
grimtooththey're online17:55
plainhaoare the gutsy sources no longer reachable?17:55
DopeGhoti!gutsy17:55
ubottuUbuntu 7.10 (Gutsy Gibbon) was the seventh release of Ubuntu. End Of Life: April 18th, 2009. See !eol and !upgrade for more details.17:55
grimtoothi had this bug since i installed 9.1017:55
DopeGhotiyep, it end of lifed this year :/17:55
DopeGhoti!eol17:56
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases17:56
plainhaowell, i just changed gutsy to hardy in my sources.list and ran update and running upgrade now, wondering if i’m going to regret it17:56
trismralf_e: this page describes a pretty simple method to get the source and rebuild a package http://www.moosechips.com/2008/09/ubuntu-rebuild-a-source-package/ (doesn't go into how to patch though)17:56
Ramosawhen you are asked to create a new partition in the beginning or the end, do they mean after the current partition(s) ? and what does it matter17:56
plainhaounfortunately, the server was running fine for so long, i neglected it17:56
DopeGhotiplainhao: you might have some orphaned packages, but I don't think it'd going to explode in your face17:56
DopeGhotiplainhao: "If it ain't broke, don't break it" can be a double-edged sword :)17:57
ralf_etrism, thanks!17:57
JrodDCxpoor guy17:57
plainhaothanks, DopeGhoti, going to retry the do-release-upgrade after the aptitude upgrade finishes17:57
DopeGhotiplainhao: good luck.  Also, you might want to check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes if you've not already done so.17:58
Shawn-is there any way to change the port that a game uses to connect to the interwebz17:59
plainhaoin case i need to start from scratch, does the latest postfix still need patching for a db backend?17:59
DopeGhotiplainhao: and also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades17:59
grimtoothwhat is a good alternative to pidgin and empathy?17:59
qwyethDopeGhoti, pastebin.org/6568317:59
macogrimtooth: kopete17:59
mikobuntugrimtooth,  amsn17:59
grimtoothi need a client that does icq and msn18:00
isolat3dsh33pguys, how to start scim? I forgot. :(18:00
plainhaoack, wish i’d seen that eolupgrades page earlier18:00
plainhaothanks, DopeGhoti18:00
Ramosawhat do I choose as mount point for my primary partition ?18:00
Dmolegrimtooth: piogen18:00
DopeGhotiqwyeth: looks like Laptop isn't offering up the share at all.  Have you tried unsharing and resharing the directory?18:00
Shawn-Ramosa /18:01
Dmolegrimtooth: pidgen18:01
JrodDCxThe Mount point would be /18:01
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RamosaShawn, I have to specify it?18:01
plustaxHi there. I'm having an issue. I can't get my webcam to work with tinychat.com or stickam.com It works in cheese, but that's about it. Can anyone help me out?18:01
Shawn-Ramosa do you mean for installing ubuntu18:01
llutzplainhao: "apt-cache search postfix" will give you a list with versions for different db-systems18:01
RamosaShawn, actually not :)18:01
qwyethDopeGhoti, yes, I've done that18:02
RamosaShawn, Jolicloud18:02
qwyethsame symptoms18:02
Shawn-Ramosa what are you trying to do then. Your root partition should automatically mount18:02
barryberryplustax any luck with facebook?18:02
plustaxNo sir.18:02
plainhaoawesome, thanks, llutz18:02
MASARUwotaplustax: whats the problem?18:02
RamosaShawn: i am asked about mount point during installation18:02
plustaxI go to tinychat.com and start broadcasting18:03
plustaxand it can't find my cam.18:03
plustaxThe only thing I can see that actually shows my cam is the cheese program.18:03
MASARUwotaplustax: does the "cheese" application find it?18:03
plustaxManycam doesnt work either.18:03
MASARUwota;/18:03
plustaxAlso, I am using an asus laptop with a built in cam.18:03
plustaxyes, cheese finds it.18:03
MASARUwotaplustax: i see18:03
Shawn-Ramaso yes your main partition would be root but you should also have space for swap and optionally a /home partition as well18:04
Guest29291Hey all18:04
Shawn-Ramosa *18:04
Guest29291I had a question about Sun's Virtual Box.18:04
JrodDCxIt seems like your camra has a kernel driver but flash is being stupid ?18:04
Guest29291Anyone have wisdom on the subject?18:04
plustaxcan someone PM me and help me fix this issue? I will post results of the solution when finished.18:04
plustaxI just really need to get this issue fix'd if possible.18:04
DopeGhotiqwyeth: on a lark, haveyou tried /etc/init.d/smbd restart ?18:04
Ace42I'm getting an "Invalid module format" error when modprobing some modules that were working fine (rmmod / modprobe) earlier.  I think a laptop crash might mean there's a process still active that is persisting through reboots; any suggestions?18:04
darkscrypti'm looking for an easy way to get sendmail working for php18:05
RamosaShawn, i really need a partition for home?18:05
Shawn-Guest2929 I know about it what's up18:05
darkscryptall i need is just a simple smtp server to send mail from.. i dont care what domain, i'm just wanting it to work with drupal18:05
Guest29291Can you PM me please Shawn?18:05
barryberryplustax I have the same problem I would like to record video on facebook...18:05
darkscryptif anybody knows of something perhaps like a sendmail snap in, that works the same as sendmail but uses a remote smtp server and acts as a wrapper around sendmail18:05
Shawn-Ramosa yes its safer to have a seperate home patition that way if you fill up home with personal data your system will still boot18:05
darkscryptthat would be greatly helpful18:05
plustaxbarryberry18:05
plustaxjoin #camhelp with me18:06
RamosaShawn, what size you recommend for root and for home partitions if I have about 80 gigs to dedicate18:06
plustaxI will see if I can get some guru's in there with us18:06
Shawn-Ramosa about 20 or 25 gigs to / and then double your ram to swap and the rest to /home18:07
hareshany oen facing problem  with amsn liek loging taking very long18:07
qwyethDopeGhoti, nope, that didn't work-18:07
DopeGhotiqwyeth: can you pastebin your /etc/samba/smb.conf ?18:08
qwyethDopeGhoti, I can if you want, but I already ran a diff on smb.conf between the laptop and the vm and they're totally identical18:08
JonathanEllisOn a machine with 1GB of RAM, what is a reasonable swap partition size? 1.5GB?18:09
DopeGhotiqwyeth: the thing is, if laptop can't even access its own share, something must be amiss, or there is a firewall klobbering the traffic18:09
RamosaShawn, thanks.. ext3 for all right?18:09
kermitJonathanEllis: yeah18:09
DopeGhotiqwyeth: is there a firewall on the laptop?18:09
plustaxramosa can you help me please?18:09
plustax:)18:09
JonathanElliskermit: Or should I make it twice the physical RAM?18:10
Ramosaplustax, im not guru18:10
kermitJonathanEllis: well no, maybe more if you want to ensure hibernate works18:10
JonathanElliskermit: I dont trust hibernate. I always shut down18:10
Dr_WillisJonathanEllis:  how much hd space total.. and do you plan on using Hibernate.. are the 2 big questions18:10
plustaxCan anyone here help me troubleshoot my webcam problem in Ubuntu 9.10? I can't get it to work with web applications. Only cheese.18:10
kermitJonathanEllis: then 1.5GB is fine18:10
Dr_WillisJonathanEllis:  then 1.5gb will proberly be plenty. make it 2gb if ya really think you may need it18:10
isolat3dsh33pGuys, there's something seems suspicious to me in my Network:/// There's another computer title "USER-PC" where before it does not exist. There's another one which is mine. Is this normal? Btw, in my network, there's no other linux computer besides me18:11
JonathanEllisDr_Willis: 55.89 Gib hard disk. But I am dual booting with windows so about a third of that has gone already18:11
qnixHi, what's the proper way to run 2 differents apache2 with different configuration?18:11
qwyethnope... iptables -S shows -P INPUT ACCEPT ; -P FORWARD ACCEPT; -P OUTPUT ACCEPT ... and there wouldn't be any other firewall; it's pretty close to a fresh install; the only things I added to it were picasa, banshee, chromium-browser, bisigi themes, and VLC18:11
nullkuhl_how to install kde(latest version) on Ubuntu Karmic Koala ?18:12
Dr_Willisisolat3dsh33p:  sure its not your router? My router shows up  since it can share a hd attatched to it.  also check the outoput of 'smbtree' and 'findsmb'18:12
viciousi accidentaly removed /etc/samba. i tried reinstalling samba, reconfiguring it, to no avail. What should i do to get those config files back?18:12
qwyethit's attached to the same switch as the VM (which is currently sharing the host NIC in bridged mode)18:12
Dr_WillisJonathanEllis:  id say 1.5gb is fine.18:12
JonathanEllisDr_Willis: Thanks18:12
Samuelanyone happen to kow the command to install ubuntu from command line?18:13
DopeGhotivicious: apt-get --reinstall install samba perhaps?18:13
Dr_WillisSamuel:  you mean sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   ?18:14
DopeGhotinullkuhl_: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop18:14
Samuelno, I don't want to install a package, I want to install ubuntu18:14
isolat3dsh33pDr_Willis: It's under the workgroup, there's no info for USER-PC for smbtree and not listed in USER-PC. What does it means?18:14
Dr_WillisSamuel:  what do you have installed right now? You mean the binary name of the installer the live cd uses?18:14
SamuelDr_Willis, yes, I'm using the live CD18:15
Dr_Willisisolat3dsh33p:  not sure.  does findcd find it?18:15
Dr_WillisSamuel:  the icon on the desktop dosent work?18:15
SamuelDr_Willis, no, it booted into command line, not x windows18:15
Dr_WillisI forget the name of the installer program. and if its a desktop cd. there is no cli installer...18:15
Dr_WillisSamuel:  desktop cd or alternative installer cd?18:15
isolat3dsh33pDr_Willis: Command not found. :/ Anyway thanks.18:16
MithranBooted a server with the Ubuntu 9.10 live CD, and it didn't automatically load the appropriate module for my SCSI controller. I've activated the module with modprobe, but the drives on the controller still don't show up in fdisk -l.18:16
Samuelooooh, I thought the installer program worked both ways :(18:16
Dr_Willisisolat3dsh33p:  its part of some of the smb packages i always install i imagine.  I forget what one.18:16
Dr_Willisisolat3dsh33p:  its findsmb I thijnk.. not findcd. :) lol.18:16
viciousDopeGhoti, nope didnt do the trick :(18:17
viciousDopeGhoti, just want those default config files back18:17
isolat3dsh33pDr_Willis: I just hope it's not something malicious... :(18:17
Dr_Willis!find findsmb18:17
Sinister is there a way to remove the numbers from files in console like 01222outside.jpg 012232.inside.jpg i just want inside.jpg outside.jpg i do it with the camera now but i have 15,000 pics anyway to mass do it ?18:17
Lazydragoonsomeone know why i can't accept term and agreement when i install a progrem ?18:17
DopeGhotivicious: sterner measures, then:  apt-get --purge remove samba; apt-get  install samba18:17
ubottuPackage/file findsmb does not exist in karmic18:17
Dr_Willisisolat3dsh33p:  findsmb here shows the ip of every smb server on my lan. its shoding the router here. Perhaps that will give some info18:17
jsmidt I am trying to compile a program that requires config.h.  Which package contains this file?18:18
Dr_WillisLazydragoon:  if using the command line.. use the tab keuy to select OK and hit enter18:18
Dr_WillisLazydragoon:  NOT the mouse.18:18
DopeGhotiSinister: it's easy to script as long as either there are no duplicated when digits are removed, or you don't care about losing such duplicated18:18
plustaxI really need some help here guys18:19
plustaxmy mic doesnt work either18:19
LazydragoonDr_Willis umm its because i need to drop the arrow till the end to get the accept but he never appear18:19
plustaxand my cam doesnt work in web applications18:19
Dr_WillisLazydragoon: try pageup/pagedown18:19
JonathanEllisIm just restoring Ubuntu from a backup by copying the partition from a spare hard disk in gparted. The partition numbers will all be different as the dual boot config is different to when I made the backup. I will also need grub installed to the MBR as I have installed windows too. Can grub automatically generate menu.lst and add an entry for windows or must I do it by hand? Or is this a job for super grub disk?18:19
trismjsmidt: going to need more information, apt-file shows 100+ packages with config.h18:20
jas72zplustax have you enabled mic in sound settings18:20
Dr_Willisplustax:  flash in linux - im not sure can use any cams. see if it works in the cheese program.18:20
isolat3dsh33pDr_Willis: If there's no IP for USER-PC, that means it's something that has no connection to my files or anything from me right? Hope i'm right.18:20
DopeGhotiSinister: It's actually a one-liner, but again, you'd lose most files with duplicated names after digits were stripped18:20
JonathanEllisOh. Its Jaunty by the way so I guess that might mean it wants to use grub 2?18:20
Lazydragoonok i will18:20
Dr_Willisisolat3dsh33p:  i woudlent think so. Not sure where it could be comming from. Unless its a router..  You are not running anyting in virtualbox are youi?18:20
plustaxDr_Willis it does work in the cheese program, and I have seen many users use cams in flash based applications who used ubuntu or mint. They said that it just worked no problems for them.18:21
Dr_Willisplustax:  ive seen people ask that exact same question in here about flash/webcams.. and never seen a definitive answer.18:21
SinisterDopeGhoti, whats the one line ?18:21
Dr_Willisplustax:  check the forums perhaps thers some fix/tweak. or could be its an issue with specific cam make/models18:21
barryberryplustax I got a solution run a virtual machine :)18:22
plustaxI think it might be.18:22
Dr_Willis!info renameutils | Sinister18:22
ubottuSinister: renameutils (source: renameutils): Programs to make file renaming easier. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.10.0-2 (karmic), package size 89 kB, installed size 288 kB18:22
plustaxMy issue is...I'm a bit helpless with this kind of stuff. I'm afraid I will require some in depth assistance.18:22
LazydragoonDr_Willis not work :(18:22
Dr_WillisSinister:  theres also several other renaming tools in the repos.  The rox file manager also has some neat rename features18:22
plustaxI don't know the first thing about this stuff :(18:22
isolat3dsh33pDr_Willis: I believe so, I'm not even sure what's virtualbox is. Is it possible if someone gets my IP and use it for DoS attack.18:22
Dr_WillisLazydragoon:  what are you installing anyway>?18:22
LazydragoonDr_Willis wow in cedega18:22
Dr_Willisisolat3dsh33p:  if you are running ubuntu - most likely not. You could try a live cd and see if the unknown machine shows upwhere also.18:23
unit3Anyone know what desktop process keeps creating ~/Photos, which I don't want or need on my work desktop? :)18:23
Dr_WillisLazydragoon:  check the wine app database, or the cedega forums wouild be the best bet.18:23
DopeGhotiSinister: for a in "*.jpg" do mv $a `echo $a | sed 's/(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)//g'`; done18:23
DopeGhotiSinister:correction:  for a in "*.jpg"; do mv $a `echo $a | sed 's/(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)//g'`; done18:23
LazydragoonDr_Willis i know but can't find anything about my problem so im bored lol18:24
xnoxI made I live usb creator with space allocated to store files. I use the stick everyday. Is it possible to mount that filesystem on ubuntu so that I can copy files which were created in live session?18:24
grawityDopeGhoti: Uh. s/[0-9]//g18:24
isolat3dsh33pDr_Willis: Ok dude, thanks for helping. Going to check it now. Btw, I'm sure it's not my router.18:24
Lazydragoonand cedega chan not answer to18:24
barryberryplustax do you have a dell laptop?18:24
wilharthttp://pastebin.ca/171723118:24
grawityDopeGhoti: Also, wildcards are not expanded inside quotes.18:24
wilhartsorry, anyone have problems with cairdo-dock and playing media when it's on?18:25
Dr_WillisLazydragoon:  i dont play wow. so no idea. its a wine/cedega issue aparently  so not really a Ubuntu issue. you COULD try turning off compiz if its on.. and see if it works   then i guess18:25
grawityDopeGhoti: So for a in *.jpg; do mv "$a" "`echo "$a" | sed 's/[0-9]//g'`"; done18:25
DopeGhotigrawity: mm.  Still learning regexes.  And yes, they are; you need the quoted in fact, in the case that filenames have spaces in them.18:25
LazydragoonDr_Willis ok i will try that18:25
wilhartanyone??18:25
boscop_I have enough of ubuntu freezing because of vlc freaking out and allocating all the ram. how can I automatically kill the app that has allocated the most space when the overall ram usage exceeds a certain point??18:25
grawityDopeGhoti: Then quote the variable, not the wildcard.18:25
hamzaatova1hi - ive an awful problem with empathy - when i try to add an msn user i get the text changed to my address so i cant add - what is it?18:25
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grawityDopeGhoti: That's the usual way of doing it. And no, wildcards aren't expanded inside quotes...18:26
Dr_Willisboscop_:  i recall KDE haveing a featurte like that ages ago.. but never seen a similer thing in gnome. (it was a kde panel applet i recall)18:26
grawityrain ~/public_html » echo "*.html"18:26
grawity*.html18:26
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kentI have a question18:26
Sinistermv: missing file operand18:26
boscop_Dr_Willis: I'm using xfce18:26
boscop_Dr_Willis: isn't that independent of the windowing system?18:26
Dr_Willisboscop_:  it was a kde app i recalled called '18:27
plustaxno I have an Asus laptop18:27
DopeGhotigrawity: just tested it, it does work, and if you don't quote the wildcard, 'this that.jpg' gets split into 'this' and 'that.jpg' when the for loop iterates.18:27
wilhartplease?18:27
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Clueless2Dr_Willis ... hi!18:27
Dr_Willisboscop_:  runaway process catcher'   - No ideawhat else may do a similer task.18:27
PiciDopeGhoti, grawity: wouldnt    rename 's/[0-9]*//' *.jpg    be simpler?18:27
grawityDopeGhoti: It wouldn't be if you quoted the "$a".18:27
Dr_Willisboscop_:  you could try some newer versions of vlc. could be theres some bug. Ive never had that issue with vlc and i use vlc constantluy.18:27
Dr_WillisHello Clueless218:27
Clueless2Dr_willis .. question for u .. so when downloading apps, i have to find apps. for Ubuntu development right? I just can't download any Linux based apps and install on my Ubuntu?18:27
barryberryplustax I would reccomend you write a forum on the ubuntu forum page18:28
grawityPici: Maybe. I always forget that Debian comes with Perl's 'rename'.18:28
Dr_WillisClueless2:  look for ubuntu packages for precompiled binaries.. but ive rarely needed to do that. Most all i need are in some sort of repo. or i can use source.18:28
Seitohi! anyone knows how to make huawei e156g 3g modem working on jaunty x64?18:28
Clueless2i see ...18:28
tvaughnif i want to run somethign with java in wine do i need to install java in wine?18:28
kentI am trying to apply my special effects and i am trying to use like the desk top cube and other special effects but now when i try to apply the effects it says "can not run those effects" and then i try to get that mac osx dock for Ubuntu but it says it cant run that either please help18:29
Dr_WillisClueless2:  some programs come in binarie form in tar.gz or other archices (like firefox)  those may work. or may not18:29
Clueless2Dr_Willis ... how do update the "repo .." or where is it?18:29
grawityDopeGhoti: http://dpaste.com/134212/ :)18:29
Clueless2Dr_Willis .. some of them don't work.  I just found out18:29
Dr_WillisClueless2:  depends on what you want. theres dozens of unofficial repos out now. and then theres the PPA repos. google has their own repo and many others exist18:29
grawityDopeGhoti: So you must be using a really weird shell then.18:29
Clueless2Dr_Willis .. it seems there is alot of apps for Ubuntu out there but I can't seem to find it18:29
kentoh why not this is ubuntu it should be compatible and work just fine18:30
nbndsanyone installed ubuntu on Lenovo G550 notebook?18:30
kentWhy not?18:30
Clueless2Dr_Willis ..how do I use Ubuntu to find the extra repos .. or extra updated apps?18:30
DopeGhotigrawity: fair enough :)  </derail>18:30
Dr_WillisClueless2:  what are you lookin for?   The tool 'ubuntu tweak' lets  You add a great many unofficial  repos for things like wine, and so forth with juszt a few clicks.18:30
kenti am running Ubuntu on a Dell optiplex GX260 so it is kinda old though too18:31
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boomernangnbnds, what problem are you having?18:31
Dr_WillisClueless2:  system -> admin -> software source   and enable all the ubuntu based ones.. then its a matter of finding any others you may need and adding them18:31
Clueless2yes that i am looking for18:31
qwyethDopeGhoti, when I specify credentials with -o user=username it mounts.  The problem isn't reaching the share, it's that the "Guest access" checkbox doesn't work.18:31
kentbut it run Ubuntu fine18:31
kubancinw hich folder do i save certificate .cer in ubuntu18:31
Seitoguys! anyone knows about how to make huawei e156g usb stick working on jaunty x64?18:31
grawitykubanc: What type of certificate is it?18:31
kentmaby it is because i installed ubuntu inside windows18:31
kubancgrawity, it's .cer type18:32
* grawity facepalms18:32
kentwait no i tryed this on another hardrive and it still didnt let me get some effects18:32
crypt-00hi im getting this error when trying to play *any* video file  with VLC "Streaming / Transcoding failed: VLC could not open the encoder."18:32
Dr_Willis!ccsm | kent18:32
ubottukent: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz18:32
riverbirdunit3, can't find it right off, but there is a preference tab to deselect it.  maybe off the desktop somewhere .. keep looking18:32
caja2_What is /dev/usblp0 ?18:33
nbndsboomernang: i want to configure the brightness key shortcuts18:33
Clueless2dr_willis "Enter the complete APT line of the repository that you want to add as source"18:33
Dr_Williscaja2_:  a usb printer - i belive.18:33
DopeGhoticaja2_: that sounds like it might be your printer!18:33
hamzaatova1hi - ive an awful problem with empathy - when i try to add an msn user i get the text changed to my address so i cant add - what is it?18:33
Dr_WillisClueless2:  yes.. thats how its normally done.18:33
caja2_DopeGhoti, it is18:33
Clueless2how do i know what to put on there?18:33
caja2_lol18:33
Dr_Willis!apt | Clueless218:33
ubottuClueless2: APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome), !Adept (KDE) or !KPackageKit (KDE)18:33
BluesKajhow does one get the toolbar options like configure etc back in quassel ?18:33
beeflycan i get help with my wireless please?18:33
Dr_WillisClueless2:  its normally mentiooned at the web site about the repository. see the medibuntu repoistiory for examples18:33
Dr_Willis!medibuntu | Clueless218:33
ubottuClueless2: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org18:34
Clueless2k18:34
barryberryClueless2 synaptic has a lot of software18:34
Dr_WillisClueless2:  theres also a command line tool  that can add them.18:34
Dr_WillisClueless2:  i normally add medibuntu and a few other little ppa repos.. and thats about all i do18:34
barryberryClueless2 what applications you looking for18:34
Dr_Willisi Never seem to be able to get the 'getdeb' repos to work. :()18:35
PiciClueless2: Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/add-applications/C/installing.html for help installing aplications in Ubuntu 9.1018:35
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qwyeth!ask | beefly18:35
ubottubeefly: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)18:35
boomernangnbnds, do other function + key combos work? or are all functions not working?18:35
Clueless2pici...thanks18:35
isolat3dsh33pDr_Willis: Weird, after I reboot, it's gone. :/18:35
caja2_DopeGhoti, but how come "echo test > /dev/usblp0" doesn't work?18:35
beeflyI can't connect to a new wireless network18:36
qwyethbeefly, have you ever connected wirelessly on this computer before?18:36
beeflyYes18:36
qwyethis it a laptop?18:36
barryberrybeefy whats your chipset?18:36
beeflyyes18:36
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Dr_Willisisolat3dsh33p:  ive found samba to be.. weird. :)18:36
Lazydragooni got item at the top in the middle and supose to be at the right site or the task bar someone have a ida hot to put it back ?18:37
qwyethbeefly, does your laptop have either a physical switch or an Fn-key combination that might have accidentally turned the wireless off?18:37
isolat3dsh33pDr_Willis: Hahaha, anyway, thanks again dude. :D18:37
nbndsboomernang: volume up/down fn keys work properly. i have LED background display18:37
Dr_WillisLazydragoon:  right click on it theres a move menu item. be sure its unlocked18:37
DopeGhoticaja2_: try cat > /dev/usblp018:37
DopeGhoticaja2_: type a few things, then press ^L, and then ^D18:37
isolat3dsh33pAll the sound problem also disappeared as well.. Hohoho18:37
caja2_DopeGhoti, ok18:38
Dr_WillisDopeGhoti:  OLD skool  way to write a letter. :)18:38
barryberryI got the athrous5007 wireless working ha18:38
DopeGhotiDr_Willis: =D18:38
Ace42Hmmm, my kernel version is 2.6.31-16-generic; is that right for 9.1 karmic koala release?18:38
ThreetimesHi, will the KÖNIG CMP-USBVG5 USB 2.0 AUDIO/VIDEO GRABBER work in ubuntu? http://www.nedis.nl/ARTLDetail.php?ARTLID=110895618:38
beeflyChipset not sure, is there a cmd I can use to find out? .... There is an fn key but I don't think that's the problem18:38
rkansaljoin #punjabiroots18:39
rkansalhelp18:39
qwyethbeefly, when you click on your network icon, do you see the wireless network, and if not do you see any others?18:39
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jj77rkansal: whats that? punja***18:39
rkansal#help18:39
beeflyI see the network and one other18:39
Picirkansal: its /join #channel18:39
LazydragoonDr_Willis well the other have a move option but not this one is the sound icon and wireless icon18:39
qwyethbeefly, what happens when you click on the network you're trying to connect to?18:39
caja2_DopeGhoti, no go18:40
Crewsr3I'm having trouble with checksums not working.  I have a portable hard drive on NTSF and I want to pull a very large file from.  I ran a checksum on the hard drive made a copy on my main computer and the checksums don't match.  I ran a second checksum on the portable hard drive and second checksum on the original file is diffrent.  Why would a checksum on the source come up diffrent?18:40
OmniCitadelgreetings all... being new to linux... 1.5 years and counting, I am having an issue with eve-online running in wine... I have researched this extensively and the one last glimmer is that ubuntu makes some kookie changes to the kernels which "might" be to blame, and thus what is advised is to upgrade the kernel to the latest kernel.org stable release... I need to know the best way which is easiest18:40
DopeGhoticaja2_: darn. I was hoping it would act as an lpr :p18:40
caja2_hehehe18:40
caja2_shoot18:40
boomernangnbnds, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=673946   - that should help you. although can you pastebin the output of this - cat /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness18:40
ThreetimesHi, will the KÖNIG CMP-USBVG5 usb 2.0 audio/video grabber work in ubuntu? I haven't bought it yet... http://www.nedis.nl/ARTLDetail.php?ARTLID=110895618:40
DopeGhoticaja2_: you said you got CUPS working with it, yes?  can you "echo asdf | lpr" ?18:41
caja2_DopeGhoti, yes18:41
DopeGhoti!hcl | Threetimes18:41
ubottuThreetimes: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection18:41
caja2_DopeGhoti, that worked18:41
qwyethbeefly, are there any other computers that can connect to this access point?  Have you tried rebooting the wireless router?18:41
DopeGhoticaja2_: so the CUPS wrapping is at least working; that's something at least18:42
DopeGhoticaja2_: your app just won't play nice with CUPS though, will it? :-/18:42
M1TE5Hcan anybody know how to add user through terminal with admin privilege i have root access18:42
caja2_DopeGhoti, no, it won't18:42
caja2_boomer18:42
barryberryqwyeth I would think you would get the chipset ha and google it...18:42
caja2_bummer*18:42
nbndsboomernang: thank you18:42
ThreetimesDopeGhoti: Konig isn't in the list at all...18:43
qwyethbarryberry, the second question I asked him after 'is it turned on' was 'did it work before'18:43
OmniCitadelany one have any advice for an easy way to upgrade to the latest kernel.org kernel?18:43
Dr_WillisLazydragoon:  thats sounds liek the 'system tray' or whatever its called its a 'widit' that holds the special icons. it should have a little handel bar near the left taht has those menus..18:43
kaiehello. I will travel to a country with very little bandwidth. I will bring a ubuntu system with me. I wonder, how can I ensure I take all of the software with me that I'll potentially want to install? the installer CDs are only a subset and are built around the concept of on demand downloading18:43
DopeGhotiM1TE5H: Are you asking how, with admin privileges, to add a user, or are you asking how to add a user with admin priviliges?18:43
Dr_Willis!resetpanels | Lazydragoon18:43
ubottuLazydragoon: To reset the gnome panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »18:43
Dr_WillisLazydragoon:  its all about where you click exactly ti get the differne tmenus18:44
qwyethbarryberry, we haven't ruled out a problem with the network hardware.  I suspect his ubuntu might be working fine18:44
Dr_Willisbye all18:44
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DopeGhotikaie: look into apt-mirror perhaps, and bring a complete repo with you?18:44
Lazydragoonok that work thanks18:44
* caja2_ sighs18:44
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hamzaatova1i want to chat with someone - what platform there is if not all the empathy options and not skype??????/18:44
qwyethbarryberry, also, he sees the ssid in his list, which means ubuntu detects it and the antenna works18:44
M1TE5Hcan anybody know how 2 add user through terminal in ubuntu 8.1018:45
grawityM1TE5H: 'sudo adduser'18:45
DopeGhoticaja2_: hamzaatova1 pidgin?18:45
DopeGhoticaja2_: oops, that wasn't supposed to have your name on it :/18:46
caja2_lol18:46
ThreetimesHi, will the KÖNIG CMP-USBVG5 usb 2.0 audio/video grabber work in ubuntu? I haven't bought it yet... http://www.nedis.nl/ARTLDetail.php?ARTLID=1108956 It's not in the official HCL, but will it work?!18:46
DopeGhoticaja2_: anyhow, I'll keep pondering what can be done, but I'm drawing a blank at the moment :/18:46
Crewsr3I ran two different check sums on the same file in the same location and they are coming up differently.  Can someone help me figure out what is going on18:46
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beefly1Working now, thanks!18:46
grawityM1TE5H: Add the new user to the 'admin' group. And don't PM me.18:47
caja2_DopeGhoti, lol thanks man!18:47
M1TE5Hhow to add admin group18:48
dbuggerHey guys! Can anyone tell me if there's a way to put a background image on gedit?18:48
caja2_DopeGhoti, one question. Is lp0 a port?18:48
CompostHowdy folks18:48
caja2_or usblp018:48
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grawitycaja2_: lp0 should be the zeroth printer port (LPT in Windows)18:49
DopeGhoticaja2_: lp0 should be a parallel port (compare LPT1: in Windowsland)18:49
caja2_ok18:49
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caja2_got it18:49
IcyJIs there a way to get CUPS to start at boot?  I am getting a "The CUPS scheduler is not running" message until I run "sudo service cups start"18:49
grawityIcyJ: Try 'sudo update-rc.d cups defaults'18:50
DopeGhotiIcyJ: see update-rc.d18:50
ThreetimesHi, will the KÖNIG CMP-USBVG5 usb 2.0 audio/video grabber work in ubuntu? I haven't bought it yet... http://www.nedis.nl/ARTLDetail.php?ARTLID=1108956 It's not in the official HCL, but will it work?!18:50
IcyJgrawity, DopeGhoti:  When I do that, I get the message: System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/cups already exist.18:51
riverbirdThreetimes, check the supported hardware lists in the forums18:51
caja2_is tere a way to stop CUPS?18:51
Threetimesriverbird: thanks!18:52
DopeGhoticaja2_: /etc/init.d/cups stop18:52
epinkyThreetimes: if it's not in HCL, probably not18:52
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CompostI need help solving a dependency problem with Ubuntu 9.10 I get when trying ot install xdraft 0.12 debian package. The dependency error I get is from gdk-imlib11 and I can't install gdk-imlib11 because libglib1.2ldbl (>= 1.2.10-18). The developer of xdraft says  Ubuntu renamed glib to glibdbl or something. What can I do about this, please help me if you can. I need to use this app for a school project18:52
caja2_d'oh for me18:52
grawity!test > me18:53
ubottugrawity, please see my private message18:53
barryberrythreetimes if its based on windows ce then no18:53
grawityhrm.18:53
barryberrythreetimes your url wad dead18:53
barryberrywas*18:53
crypt-00hi im getting this error when trying to play *any* video file  with VLC "Streaming / Transcoding failed: VLC could not open the encoder."18:53
d[a]ssou1ii wonder why did most of my menus disappear18:53
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d[a]ssou1ipidgin, skype, gimp, eclipse, the menus are all gone yet the apps function perfectly18:54
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Ramosai have a 6GB windows restore partition at /dev/sda1 .. when I install my linux root partition, do I put it in the beginning or end? The restore partition is activated from bios18:54
DopeGhotid[a]ssou1i: press apt+F2, and in the popup, type gnome-panel18:54
DopeGhotid[a]ssou1i: alt-F2 rather18:54
caja2_DopeGhoti, I disabled CUPS and did "cat /dev/usblp0" and got a bunch of  characters, does that mean I'm GETTING from the printer?18:54
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d[a]ssou1iDopeGhoti: no application menus are missing18:55
kaieDopeGhoti, thank you very much for pointing me to apt-mirror18:55
d[a]ssou1iDopeGhoti: not the panel, the menus inside the application18:55
DopeGhoticaja2_: indeed, yes, which makes (a sort of) sense, what with it being a USB device and all.  When you're testing, you want to cat > /dev/usblp0 :)18:55
DopeGhotikaie: my pleasure18:55
DopeGhotid[a]ssou1i: hmm, interesting.18:55
tomstomsDopeGhoti, it didn't work.18:55
Compostcrypt-00: do you have the ubuntu-restricted-extras package?18:55
DopeGhotitomstoms: phooey.18:56
tomstomsDopeGhoti, the command told me my kernel doesn't support ACPI?18:56
jaikGood evening. I've installed BerkeleyDB. But on each compiling, I've to show up the libs manually: "g++ main.cpp -o dbApp -ldb_cxx-4.7 -I /usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.7/include/". Does anyone know, how I can include them in the system?18:56
crypt-00Compost, yes.18:56
tomstomsDopeGhoti, it's weird, because I can invoke suspend by using the battery applet.18:56
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rbehrI am running ubuntu 9.1. I am having difficulty with the Evolution Email. Is there another email client that would work better with Exchange 2003?18:57
caja2_DopeGhoti, woooh18:57
DopeGhotitomstoms: try pm-suspend perhaps?18:57
caja2_DopeGhoti,  got it working man18:57
caja2_thanks a lot18:57
tomstomsDopeGhoti, I was just about to say that, lol.18:57
tomstomsBRB18:57
DopeGhoticaja2_: seriously?  Yay!18:57
caja2_DopeGhoti, the thing was that CUPS was taking over the usblp0 and assigning it to it's own queue or something.18:57
Compostcrypt-00: then I don't know...18:58
epinkyrbehr: try Thunderbird, it's an alternative to Evolution18:58
Threetimesbarryberry: better url: http://blog.worldofkonig.com/audio-video/cmp-usbvg5/18:58
rbehrI am running ubuntu 9.1. I am having difficulty with the Evolution Email. Is there another email client that would work better with Exchange 2003? Also is there a way I can install MS Internet Explorer on Ubuntu?18:58
DopeGhoticaja2_: that makes sense as well. Glad you'reup and running! :D18:58
ThreetimesHi, will the KÖNIG CMP-USBVG5 usb 2.0 audio/video grabber work in ubuntu? I haven't bought it yet... http://blog.worldofkonig.com/audio-video/cmp-usbvg5/ It's not in the official HCL, but will it work?!18:58
musticześć wszystkim18:58
erUSUL!pl18:58
ubottuNa tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.18:58
mustiok.18:59
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cntlfreakhey all18:59
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cntlfreaki need some help with accessing a research paper, i was wondering if any one of you could assist.18:59
cntlfreakits on oxford journal18:59
erUSULrbehr: eolution is the only mail client in linux that supports exchange afaik19:00
erUSUL!ot | cntlfreak19:00
ubottucntlfreak: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!19:00
LorraHey, I  use KDE 4, ?would someone know how to get Amarok recognize keyboard shortcuts when it is minimized in the traybar19:00
Lorra?19:00
cntlfreaki know but i figured that there may be ppl form univ here who have access.19:00
rbehrThank you.... Is there a way I can install IE in Ubuntu???19:01
blakkheimrbehr: why would you do that?19:01
DopeGhotiLorra: If you don't get an answer in here, you could try #kubuntu, wherein most folks probably use KDE, proportionally speaking19:01
erUSULrbehr: ie4linux; or wine19:01
erUSUL!wine | rbehr19:01
ubotturbehr: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu19:01
erUSUL!appdb > rbehr19:01
ubotturbehr, please see my private message19:01
rbehrI am working with SharePoint and Firefox does not give me the options that IE 8 has with SharePOint19:02
DopeGhotirbehr: There's an FF plugin that can have FF pretend to be IE, so that Microsoft sites don't dumb themselves down.19:02
DopeGhotitomstoms: any luck?19:02
rbehrthank you:)19:02
AchothHi. I tried to reinstall Samba and ended up making it broken, so it isn't installed or removed. And when I try to install it, it just fails and complains about /usr/bin/dpkg. How do I completely remove all traces of Samba so it can be installed again?19:03
zenlunaticrbehr, blame MS19:03
IcyJDoes anyone know how to get CUPS to run at boot?  sudo update-rc.d cups defaults did not fix it.  If I run "sudo service cups start" it will start.19:03
tomstomsDopeGhoti, I stopped GDM then did (in TTY1) pm-suspend. It suspended fine, but the same thing happened when I tried to resume. A blinking cursor with no HDD acitivity and no response from keyboard.19:03
d[a]ssou1iIn some of my applications, I've lost the File/Edit .. menus ...19:03
tomstomsDopeGhoti, maybe there's a way to use /etc/pm/config.d/ and tell it to unload a module first?19:03
zenlunaticIcyJ, have you tried the web gui19:03
DopeGhotitomstoms: check the computer's BIOS' power managements settings; there might be something to tweak in there19:03
epinkyIcyJ: try "sudo rcconf" , it's not installed by default19:03
Tiders-WHere do the ssh-server conf files go natively19:03
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tomstomsDopeGhoti, it gives me the option to enable or disable ACPI on the BIOS, nothing else.19:04
tomstomsDopeGhoti, it's a very basic BIOS.19:04
DopeGhotiIcyJ: you could add 'sleep 10 && /etc/init.d/cups start' to /etc/rc.local19:04
IcyJepinky: command not found19:04
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blakkheimTiders-: /etc/ssh/sshd_config19:04
epinkyIcyJ: it's not installed by default: sudo apt-get install rcconf19:04
DopeGhotitomstoms: try changing it to the other setting?  As for editing /etc/pm/*, I've not meddled with those settings, so you know as much as I as far as that's concerned.19:04
turtle__cole me down on the panny sty19:05
sebsebsebhi19:05
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tomstomsDopeGhoti, no problem.19:06
IcyJepinky: CUPS is marked when I run rcconf19:06
tomstomsDopeGhoti, thank you either way.19:06
DopeGhotitomstoms: glad to be of service19:06
IcyJzenlunitic:  I have not tried the web gui, the address must be something like: localhost:xxx ?19:06
DopeGhotiIcyJ: did rc.local not work?19:07
IcyJDopeGhoti: correct19:07
dakeyrashi19:07
dakeyrasis there any french support ?19:07
Pici!fr | dakeyras19:07
ubottudakeyras: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr19:07
IcyJDopeGhoti: I got the following msg: update-rc.d: warning: cups stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (1)19:08
IcyJ System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/cups already exist.19:08
dakeyrasthanks ;)19:08
DopeGhotiIcyJ: hmm.19:08
nvmehow do i make sure that a partition can only be mounted RO ?19:08
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DopeGhotinvme: since root can mount anything, that's hard to do19:09
nvmeDopeGhoti, right i meant through GUI / other programs19:09
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DopeGhotinvme: if it's in /etc/fstab, with the auto, user, ro options, only root could remount it rw19:09
nvmeDopeGhoti, okay cool19:10
AchothHi. When I tried to uninstall Samba something went wrong so it is neither installed or removed, and I can't install Samba! How do I remove it completely?19:10
Anzohello all I am having a busy box error on my 9.10 install. Happened after update. System wont boot, says it gave up waiting for boot device19:10
isolat3dsh33p!firefox19:11
ubottufirefox is the default web-browser on Ubuntu. To install the latest version, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion Installing plugins: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins - See also !firefox-3.519:11
nvmeDopeGhoti, do you know if i need to have the mount directory pre-made ?19:11
DopeGhotiAchoth: apt-get --purge remove samba19:11
DopeGhotinvme: yes, the mount point must exist before somethign can be mounted to it19:12
Anzosays /dev/sdb1 doesnt exist... I only have one hd so does that extension mean that its looking to boot from an external19:12
isolat3dsh33p!firefox -remote http://www.google.com19:12
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:12
isolat3dsh33p=_=19:12
epinkyAchoth: sudo apt-get remove --purge samba-common19:12
kaieBTW, I had a live-usb-stick with an overlay. I installed the cryptsetup package. This recreated kernel boot/initrd files. afterwards my live stick failed to boot with a panic19:13
erUSULAnzo: edit the grub entry for your boot kernel and put the correct root device (you can do it in grub )19:13
isolat3dsh33p!find iwconfig19:13
ubottuPackage/file iwconfig does not exist in karmic19:13
IcyJNo one know why CUPS won't start at boot?19:14
Achothepinky: Worked perfectly! Thanks!19:15
gravitonIcyJ: update-rc.d cups defaults19:15
Anzoerusul i may need your help with that if you wouldnt mind19:15
DopeGhotiIcyJ: check your logs, maybe it's throwing an error that explains the problem19:15
nvmeDopeGhoti, does ntfs/ntfs-3g specify the same thing in fstab ?19:15
erUSUL!grub219:15
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub219:15
IcyJgravitron: tried that19:15
IcyJDopeGhoti: where would the logs be located?19:15
epinky!yay | Achoth19:15
DopeGhotiIcyJ: /var/log/19:15
gravitonIcyJ: And you can start it manually after boot?19:15
manishi have a dual boot setup with win.xp & xubuntu9.10....i installed a tranformation pack for win.7 in xp,and it replaced some system files which i will now have to repair by cd, will it effect xubuntu in any way?19:15
ubottuAchoth: Glad you made it! :-)19:15
IcyJgravitron: yes19:15
gravitonWell, then I guess there's only the logs left, as DopeGhoti suggested19:16
DopeGhotimanish: you may have to reinstall GRUB if Windows klobbers the boot sector which it is wont to do.19:16
erUSULAnzo: press "esc" when booting to enter edit mode of grub19:17
manishDopeGhoti: how can i do that...i'm a linux newbie,so...19:17
strywgr!vlc19:18
epaphusHello,l when encrypting the laptop with "use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM" How strong is this encryption?19:18
ubottuAudio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based).  Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs19:18
fl0wIf I want to install ncurses, on a fresh Ubuntu 9.10 setup - what package should I choose? I'd like to use ncurses for both Python development and usage? libncurses5-dev?19:18
AnzoerUSUL the link you provided will it have info about editing the grub? the grub2 link that is19:18
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DopeGhotimanish: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-restore-grub-boot-loader-after-installing-windows.html19:18
IcyJDopeGhoti, gravitron: what logs files would information relevant to CUPS?  /var/log/cups/access_log shows OKs with no errors19:19
alazyworkaholicI ran sudo update-grub2 but it didn't probe/detect a new linux OS I just installed (without bootloader) How can I get the os-prober to do its job?19:19
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erUSULAnzo: you can use the Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD intructions19:19
manishDopeGhoti: thanks19:19
DopeGhotimanish: see also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling GRUB 219:19
DopeGhotimanish: quite welcome.  That'll ve €8. ;)19:19
Ramosaif a bootloader is installed to hd0, what does it mean? hd0 is not a partition like /dev/sdaX ?19:19
AnzoerUSUL lets hope this work19:20
AnzoThanks19:20
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DopeGhotiRamosa: hd0 ≡ /dev/sda ≠ /dev/sda119:20
manishi'm broke DopeGhoti..  :(19:20
DopeGhotimanish: it was worth a try :)19:20
mrqismrxhow can I set so that fusion-icon thingy runs at start? I know that I can add applications by preferences and startup applications but what command should I write? and any additional options to that command?19:21
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edynhey, im looking for a good site survey tool or someother tool that can plot a line graph of my wifi signal, any suggestions?19:22
DopeGhotiedyn: there's a pretty good app for Android phones, but I don't know about a desktop implementation :)19:23
RamosaDopeGhoti, well it's important if its /sda or /sda1 .. my sda is ATA Hitachi and sda1 is my windows vista restore partition.. i can't mess with that one19:23
trismalazyworkaholic: if grub isn't detecting it, you may be better off specifying the entry manually in /etc/grub.d/40_custom19:23
ShogootAnyone feel competetnt to help me out on a problem i got using openoffice CALC? --- hi people. wondering if anyone can help me getting a thing right in a spreadsheet.....trying to use a checkbox to have value 0 (on) and 800 (off) the problem is that the cell i take the value from changes to ´800 and i got a formula using that cell and it dont regonize the (´800) and gives a error... How can i get the box not to give the value that ´at the star19:24
alazyworkaholicI ran sudo /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober but it only found a pre-existing XP install. I just installed fedora 12, without its bootloader because I wanted to add it from ubuntu. What do I have to do to make grub2 find fedora?19:24
alazyworkaholictrism: sorry, I've no idea what lines to put there. Can you help?19:24
rootUser_Hello people, i have an terrible issue with ubuntu, the /var/log/apache2/error.log does not logs correctly, it only shows the error about fivicon.ico19:24
linxehShogoot: tried #openoffice.org ?19:25
ctmjrmrqismrx: fusion-icon is the command to launch it19:25
mrqismrxctmjr, ok thanks19:25
BesogonWho is boot for ask question?19:25
epaphusHello,l when encrypting the laptop with "use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM" How strong is this encryption?19:25
Shogootlinxeh sure have, with ontervals of 30 mins since about 16:30 hrs19:26
mod3stepaphus: AES afaik19:26
linxehShogoot: heh ok :)19:26
mhoneywhat file do I edit to manually configure the ethernet interfaces on Karmic?19:26
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ctmjr!bot > Besogon19:26
epaphusmod3st, where can i know for sure?19:26
epinkymhoney: /etc/network/interfaces19:26
Besogon!bot19:26
Guest94458hii19:26
trismalazyworkaholic: there is an example here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#User-defined Entries , you should copy the menuentry "Ubuntu*" { } lines and try to set the correct values for the location of your fedora kernel, initrd and root partition19:26
mhoneyEpinky:  you sure?  Dont think that is valid for 9.10 anymore19:27
mod3stepaphus: Someone else should take this if you're using the installer.  The manual setup instructions here give more detail on the possible ciphers:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto19:27
epinkymhoney: yes, I'm sure19:27
mhoneyk thx19:27
trismalazyworkaholic: ignore the echo and cat lines, 40_custom is set up by default to just copy the menuentries you add to grub.cfg19:27
dovik_screen -r19:28
linxehShogoot: so how did you set up the checkbox etc ?19:28
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ctmjr!msgthebot > Besogon19:28
Besogon!msgthebot19:29
Besogon?19:29
mod3stIs there any way to treat *multiple files* as a single block device when doing a loopback mount?19:29
trismalazyworkaholic: after that just sudo update-grub; and it will be added to grub.cfg. Be aware that in grub 2, hard drive numbers still start at 0, but partitions now start at 1, so if the boot partition of fedora was /dev/sda3, it would be (hd0,3)19:29
isolat3dsh33p!emerald19:29
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kostkon!test19:30
Besogon!repository19:30
ctmjrBesogon: ubottu is the info bot but it must be on break19:30
mod3ste.g. I have  /mnt/disk1/dd_image.1  and  /mnt/disk2/dd_image.2    and I want to mount dd_image.* as a loopback block device19:30
ubottuBesogon, please see my private message19:30
ubottuPlease investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".19:30
epaphusmod3st, hmm that link describes the encryption done with cryptsetup. I need to know how strong is the ubuntu encryption.. i think its 256? or 128?19:31
tilenhi i have some problem with dhcp dhcp dont wake up my internet on 9.04 dhcp put up my interner know i install 9.10 and have this problem19:31
colin__Hi, I've bought a USB network adapter but Ubuntu does not recognzie it. How do I mak Ubuntu recognize my hardware?19:31
mod3stepaphus: Right, the installer should do it that way, just without showing you :)  I'm not an expert, but I would be very surprised if it weren't AES-12819:31
qwyethcolin__, what is the make and model of your USB network adapter?19:32
Clueless2can I use Ubuntu to serve a "router" instead of using the hardware router itself?  is it possible?  If it is, is there a link on how to ?19:32
mod3st(not an expert on ubuntu's installer; i'm pretty well-versed in crypto)19:32
sebsebsebcolin__: For wireless?19:32
epaphusmod3st, is 128 better then 256 ?19:32
colin__To Qwyeth, Engenius EUB 9706. The chip is Ralink based.19:32
colin__Yes.19:33
mod3stepaphus: AES-128 is much faster than AES-256.  AES-256 is more secure, but it's not necessary to have that strong19:33
mod3streally, 256 is overkill19:33
mod3stno matter *what* you're doing on there :)19:33
colin__To sebsebseb and qwyeth, I have Ubuntu 9.10.19:33
epaphusI need to encrypt it using AES 258. not 12819:33
epaphus:(19:33
qwyethcolin__, are you Brin dherbe?19:33
ctmjrClueless2: not ubuntu per say but linux can be set up as a router google linux as a router should give you something19:33
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sebsebsebcolin__: Not all hardware just works on Ubuntu, because of lack of manufacture support.  It might just work in another distro though.  It also might work in a previous version of Ubuntu, because certain hardware that used to just work in 9.04, doesn't in 9.10.  Also you might be able to figure out how to configure it and get it working, but for new users this won't be easy.19:34
sebsebseb!wireless |  colin__19:34
Clueless2ctmjr ..thanks for your input.  I'll do that right now19:34
mod3stepaphus: You can, you just have to manually set up using the instructions provided.  AFAIK, the installer won't let you choose.  Is there a reason why you need AES-256?19:34
epaphusmod3st, according to this http://www.cjlinux.com/system/installation/how-to-install-ubuntu-with-an-encrypted-file-system.html  it is 256 AES19:34
colin__To qwyeth. Yes. I posted a message on ubuntu forums, but I founded my drivers but don't know how to install them so Ubuntu could recognize my hardware.19:34
BesogonWhat's the hell with ubottu...( How can I make loval repository?19:35
mod3stepaphus: So I'm wrong!  Thanks for double-checking.19:35
DopeGhotiBasso: apt-mirror :)19:35
qwyethcolin__, you might have a hard time with this device.  It's very new, and there isn't a lot of information about it available.  I'll dig for a bit and see if I can find anything useful; I wish you luck.19:35
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isolat3dsh33p!emerald19:36
MTecknology!compiz19:36
ctmjrsebsebseb: the bot is lagging pretty bad might have something to do with the problems freenode is having19:36
xrandr!lag19:36
sebsebsebctmjr: it said that the bot left19:36
colin__Thank you  very much. Just another question. I was just wondering if it was possible to make Ubuntu recogzine any Ralink based devices?19:36
sebsebsebcolin__: depends on the device19:37
sebsebsebI guess19:37
PiciPlease give the bot a few minutes to sync before requesting factoids.19:37
qwyethcolin__, there are plenty of ralink chipset devices that work with ubuntu...19:37
ctmjrsebsebseb: oh ok i turned off join/parts do to all the netsplits19:37
mod3stcolin__: last time I checked, support was pretty good for normal stuff (802.11b/g)19:37
raf_hola19:37
plustaxCan someone help me get my remote desktop working19:37
plustaxit says it's only available for local connection19:37
* xrandr mourns in silent contemplation the loss of ubottu :)19:38
plustaxBut I want to have a friend from quite out of the area get into it.19:38
sebsebsebctmjr: oh ok,  well yes it will flood with peoples name when they leave or re join, but  it could be useful to see that, so you know if things are working properly or not19:38
colin__That's exactly what I have. A EUB 9706 wireless N USB adapter, Ralink based chip (802.11 b/g/n)19:38
jose__join #mapserv19:39
qwyethcolin__,  this device isn't a normal wireless adapter...  it's designed to make configuration in windows easy; it seems that when you push the button to activate it, it's supposed to pop up something in windows that circumvents typical configuration steps19:39
qwyeththat might mean that without the full-fledged windows driver you're hosed19:39
sebsebsebqwyeth: so he trys Ndiswrapper ?19:39
alazyworkaholictrism: thanks a lot for your help, but I don't know how/where to get the correct lines for root=UUID=(bunch of numbers) for the Fedora install. Any idea?19:39
colin__I think the button you pushed is supposed to connect to your router.19:39
colin__or modem.19:40
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isolat3dsh33p!emerald19:40
mod3stMan, never buy a Drobo.  Hopefully I can save someone else a headache by saying that.19:40
Ace42do .ko files in /lib/kernel/drivers take precedence over drivers found elsewhere?  If I wipe them, will they get rewritten or rebuilt?  Or if I delete them, will I be in big trouble?19:40
qwyethcolin__, but it advertises that the button is supposed to also handle encrypted connections.  For that to work there would have to be a way to enter that information from the keyboard19:40
mistergibsonanyone else having trouble with vlc.  Did a fresh install on Karmic and its all screwed up.19:41
colin__So, it would be a heck of a job to make it work?19:41
sebsebsebcolin__: If it's new enough I guess you can return it, get your money back, and buy a device that is supported properly by Ubuntu19:41
mistergibsonwon't even really start, have to dump the proc to quit19:41
mistergibsonerr... start properly19:41
riverbirdcolin__, i  think there are some general n network support deficincies19:41
colin__Support deficincies with 9.10?19:41
sebsebsebcolin__: wireless has always been a problem area, for Ubuntu19:42
sebsebseb,becasue of lack of manufacture support19:42
riverbirdjust the 'n' type networks19:42
crypt-00hi im getting this error when trying to play *any* video file  with VLC "Streaming / Transcoding failed: VLC could not open the encoder."19:42
colin__So, with any other usb adapter, there is a risk I could get problems?19:43
qwyethI'm betting on yes.19:43
riverbirdcolin__, what are you trying to do?  just have wifi or ..??19:43
jelly-bean1is emerald part of compiz?19:43
colin__Yeah. My computer is old and does not have a wifi card. I just want to get wireless internet on my laptop.19:43
The_Toxic_Mitejelly-bean1: Emerald is a window decorator, and isn't part of Compiz AFAIK19:43
sebsebsebcolin__: oh right19:44
trismalazyworkaholic: you can use sudo blkid /dev/sda3 (whatever the name of the partition with fedora root is) to get the UUID19:44
qwyethcolin__, there are lots and lots of wireless dongles that Just Work in 9.10..  if you buy another you'll probably be fine19:44
insm0dhey guys, quick queston about setting drive order19:44
riverbirdcolin__, how about a pc card?  i have an old machine with a d-ling gwl-650.  works good19:44
qwyethbut it wouldn't hurt to look it up first19:44
sebsebsebcolin__: buy something that is supported and you will be ok, can I use the bot yet hmm19:44
sebsebseb!hardware |  colin__19:44
xrandr!lag19:44
dovik____hey peeps19:44
qwyethHeck, I've even plugged in WWAN cards and had them Just Work.  Not even Windows can do that.19:45
trismalazyworkaholic: you could also just try root=/dev/sda3 (again whatever the correct partition is)19:45
colin__Do you happen to know a usb adapter that would work with 9.10 or a website with the compatible hardware?19:45
erUSUL!hcl19:45
zilla1I want to copy my linux install, to another drive, as a backup. installed packages, files, the whole deal. can i just create an image of the partition (install is in a single partition) and copy it?19:45
sebsebsebcolin__: also you can try the windows driver in Ndiswrapper or something19:45
riverbirdmy d-link gwl-650 just works19:45
colin__I tried.19:45
* erUSUL where's the bot?19:45
colin__But It does not detect the hardware.19:45
zilla1colin__: yeah, try the windows ndiswrapper19:46
deeperrorWhen clicking Applications menu there is nothing that pops up.  However, places and system are there and do have menu items.  Any clues how to restore the applications menu or rebuild it ?19:46
trismerUSUL: keeps getting disconnected with Excess Flood19:46
zilla1colin__: lspci doesn't list it?19:46
sebsebsebcolin__: the bot was going to give links to thatk ind of info, but  it's not here at the moment,  when it is back though.  you can pm it with !hardware for supported hardware info,  and !wireless for the wireless link.  oh and someone can probably just provide those links actsualley19:46
erUSULtrism: k; thx19:46
insm0dhow would I go about setting the hard drive detection order for the kernel?19:46
PiciWe're looking into the bot issue.19:46
colin__!hardware19:46
zilla1huh?19:47
colin__Thanks to all of you for help.19:47
xrandr!ubottu19:47
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zilla1!beetlejuice19:47
nine_I'm trying to get a for loop working. It's counting $i up 2,3,4,5 etc, every round. But I want it to count 0002,0003,0004,0005 etc. If you want to help me, the code is on http://paste.ubuntu.com/342937/19:48
riverbirdbot is down19:48
riverbirdcolin__, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported19:48
dnearyHi all19:48
isolat3dsh33pubottu is dead? D:19:48
sebsebsebriverbird: thanks :)19:48
dnearyLong-time Ubuntu user, I've been upgrading rather than reinstalling for years19:48
epaphusHello, what file in ubuntu can confirm to me if AES 128 or AES 256 bits was used to encrypt my filesystem? (done on karmic with the ubuntu alternate cd).19:48
* xrandr mourns the loss of ubottu19:48
dnearyNow I have some performance issues (among other things) and I'd like to selectively restore some of the distro defaults to see if that improves things19:49
dnearyFirst thin I want to do is revert to the distro default panel set-up19:49
alazyworkaholicOk, thanks, I also just found it now by mounting the filesystem from places. Showed up as /media/[UUID] I looked inside that I changed the linux /boot/vmlinz line to match the vmlinz file in Fedora's boot directory, & I think the last thing I need now is to know what to do about the initrd /boot/initrd.img... line. There's no initrd.img file in /boot for fedora.19:49
sebsebseb!ping19:50
dnearyI've made very few changes to the panel, so I don't mind throwing the various launchers & panel applets away19:50
zilla1can i create an image of my boot partition while running? or will that lead to great badness?19:50
alazyworkaholictrice: sorry, forgot to add the nick. Ok, thanks, I also just found it now by mounting the filesystem from places. Showed up as /media/[UUID] I looked inside that I changed the linux /boot/vmlinz line to match the vmlinz file in Fedora's boot directory, & I think the last thing I need now is to know what to do about the initrd /boot/initrd.img... line. There's no initrd.img file in /boot for fedora.19:50
DiverdudeHow do i avoid that screenlets are hidden/removed when i press "click here to hide all windows and show the desktop"  down in left corner?19:50
eddymhey all  i downloaded a cbt how do i run it?19:50
JBLoudG20|lapI have a headless server, that has X support for legit applications. I had a user download opera, and is downloading files from megaupload and rapidshare. How can I prevent this from happening? I should add, I'm not the 'admin' we are all graduate students, but I am the one that will get blamed if things go wrong19:50
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:50
sebsebsebdneary: Ok what do you want to do?19:50
dnearysebsebseb, I would like to restore the distribution default theme & panel19:51
ubottuHere I am, brain the size of a planet and you expect me to respond to a ping? How depressing.19:51
sebsebseb!panel |  dneary19:51
trismalazyworkaholic: surprised there isn't an initrd there...initrd strickly necessary, but the kernel modules required to access your hard drives usually need to be compiled into the kernel if you don't use an initrd...hmm19:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about panel19:51
sebsebseb!panels   dneary19:51
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about panels   dneary19:51
trismalazyworkaholic: isn't necessary I mean19:51
sebsebseb!panels |  dneary19:51
epaphusHello, what file in ubuntu can confirm to me if AES 128 or AES 256 bits was used to encrypt my filesystem? (done on karmic with the ubuntu alternate cd).19:51
guntbertdneary: To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel19:51
cpare_Linux server as a Wireless router - anyone familiar with this?19:51
insm0dThe hard drive I have linux installed on is known as /dev/sdc to a running kernel.  How can I force the kernel to use it as /dev/sda19:52
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ubottudneary: To reset the gnome panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel »19:52
dnearyguntbert, Thanks19:52
cpare_I am done with the POS belkin router I have...19:52
erUSULepaphus: fstab ?19:52
dnearyHmmm19:52
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dnearyThat doesn't look quite right19:52
MithranAnybody know how to get scsi drives mapped to /dev names if the module for the controller had to be loaded after boot?19:52
EoL{s}Hey all, I'm using eclipse. Whenever I try to make a new project, the dialogue is cut off at the bottom. Is there a way to fix this?19:53
erUSULinsm0d: do not think is possible. suffle the sata cables in the motherboard19:53
epaphuserUSUL, # /boot was on /dev/sda5 during installation19:53
epaphusUUID=32857571-7819-4649-92ce-fae36dc1946a /boot           ext2    defaults   thats all it says19:53
eddymhi guys how can i access a cbt in ubuntu19:53
erUSULepaphus: then i dunno19:53
epinkycpare_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router19:53
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dnearyAh19:53
dnearyBetter19:53
dnearyIt just took a few seconds19:53
drcsoldanhi all19:53
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zilla1insm0d: umm.. wouldnt it be easier to just open the box and switch the ide cable19:53
insm0derUSUL, my main hard drive is IDE, but uses an emulated SCSI interface.  I really don't want to have to recompile the kernel.19:54
cpare_epinky - thanks, I have made a number of routers in the past, the broadcast SSID part is the real piece that gets me concerned19:54
xrandr!ubottu19:54
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots19:54
xrandr!lag19:54
ubottuYou have lag, I don't have lag19:54
cpare_epinky - I will read through this and see if it offers any suggestions19:54
noelitoHi, I am sssooo new to this Ubuntu/IRC thing!19:55
BesogonWhich of you did install apt-cacher? Is apache2.deb enough to run it? I have't connect to internet on that computer at all19:55
erUSUL!blacklist19:55
ubottuTo blacklist a module, edit /etc/modprobe.d/my_blacklist and add « blacklist <modulename> » to the end of that list - To explicitly load modules in a specific order, list them in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and type « sudo update-initramfs -u »19:55
drcsoldani accidentally removed an entry from the startup apps list, and now when i try to mount a windows drive, i get the error "authentication required". someone know which app is missing in the startup apps?19:55
guntbertxrandr: if ubottu isn't well, please don't tease her :)19:55
drcsoldanhelp! pls!19:55
riverbirdnoelito, !ask19:56
alazyworkaholictrism: maybe it only appears after 1st boot, like folders after adding a user?? There are these folders: efi, grub, lost+found ; & these files: config-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64, elf-memtest86+-4.00 initramfs-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64.img, memtest86+-4.00 System.map-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64, vmlinz-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64 ; So what should I do about the initrd line? Eliminate it?19:56
insm0derUSUL, forgot about that.  That may work.  Off to figure out which module provides scsi emulation and disable it.  Thanks for the help19:56
dnearyhaven't looked at Hamster graphics since upgrade... look crappy. Wonder if I'm missing something19:56
nine_I'm trying to get a for loop working. It's counting $i up 2,3,4,5 etc, every round. But I want it to count 0002,0003,0004,0005 etc. If you want to help me, the code is on http://paste.ubuntu.com/342937/19:56
trismalazyworkaholic: you want initramfs I beleve19:57
noelitoI am trying to use autofs to mount a win XP share in Ubuntu.19:57
erUSULdrcsoldan: gnome-keyring-daemon ?19:57
guntbertnine_: if its bash code you might better ask in #bash19:57
EoL{s}Hey all, I'm using eclipse. Whenever I try to make a new project, the dialogue is cut off at the bottom. Is there a way to fix this?19:57
noelitoI followed a couple of forums info and I still can't connect19:57
nine_guntbert, ohh... Of course. Thnx!19:57
cpare_epinky - this seems to have what I am looking for with the essid stuff19:57
DuskaoHey guys. Quick question. I'm running 9.10. What are the keys to kill a process that is misbehaving? like ctrl + alt ???? But only the program I am using?19:57
alazyworkaholictrism: oh, so the initramfs...img file should take the place of the initrd...img file? Two names for basically the same thing?19:57
cpare_thanks!19:57
erUSULinsm0d: the scasi emulation is done by the driver itself. your chance is to make the pata driver load before the sata driver19:58
epaphusGuys anybody know??  what file in ubuntu can confirm to me if AES 128 or AES 256 bits was used to encrypt my filesystem? (done on karmic with the ubuntu alternate cd).19:58
guntbertnine_: have fun :)19:58
trismalazyworkaholic: yeah, initrd stands for initial ram disk19:58
cpare_epinky - Thanks119:58
epinkycpare_: you're welcome :)19:58
erUSULinsm0d: in my case i would have to try to make pata_ali load before ahci19:58
trismalazyworkaholic: so, initramfs (initial ram file system) would make sense to me19:58
ThreetimesHi, will the KÖNIG CMP-USBVG5 usb 2.0 audio/video grabber work in ubuntu? I haven't bought it yet... http://blog.worldofkonig.com/audio-video/cmp-usbvg5/ It's not in the official HCL, but will it work?!19:58
erUSULinsm0d: but i do not know if that will work well to be honest19:58
cpare_epinky - now to run out a buy a wireless card and super big antenna19:58
drcsoldanerUSUL: how do i start it manually? gnome-keyring-daemon in the terminal?19:58
erUSULdrcsoldan: gnome-keyring-daemon &19:59
drcsoldanstill getting the error19:59
alazyworkaholictrism: Ok, thanks a lot for the help. I'll go try it out.19:59
erUSULDuskao: alt +f2 run xkill click on the app19:59
trismalazyworkaholic: good luck19:59
NachturnalI have a triple-monitor setup with two video cards. When I use full-screen video (hulu.com flash-based video player, or a game), the maximized view appears on the left monitor, rather than the middle, which is designated as primary. Is there a known fix?19:59
epinkycpare_: omnidirectional rocks! well it depends on your needs19:59
mr_engineerdoes anybody know which is the best irc channel to ask xserver questions?19:59
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DuskaoerUSUL ok. I'll give that a try next time. Thanks.20:00
epaphusyes20:00
dnearyThat envelope in the notification area - is there a way to hide it, or get rid of it?20:00
isolat3dsh33pmr_engineer: #xorg20:00
noelitoIs this the place to ask for help on my autofs setup?20:00
cpare_epinky - thanks for the suggestion - I need to do some reading, but anything is gonna be better than the POS I have now20:00
dnearyI use neither Evo or Empathy, so it's mostly annoying20:00
martinjh99Does anyone know if Thunderbird3 is coming for Karmic?20:00
mr_engineerisolat3dsh33p, thanks20:00
isolat3dsh33pmr_engineer: np20:00
erUSULnoelito: why you need autofs for a ntfs parition ?20:01
erUSUL!latest | martinjh9920:01
ubottumartinjh99: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are: fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports.20:01
epinkycpare_: good luck :)20:01
ctmjrdneary: right click it remove from panel20:01
martinjh99!backports20:01
drcsoldanthe keyring-daemon is in the startup apps btw20:01
ubottuIf new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging20:01
al_i thought the ubuntu CD let you boot into gnome? mine has taken me to the command line??20:01
drcsoldanso that souldnt be the problem20:01
isolat3dsh33p!emerald20:01
ubottuemerald is an obsolete window decorator for compiz. It's unsupported and unmaintained, making issues with it very hard to diagnose and fix. There are no known, supported alternatives.20:01
erUSULdrcsoldan: maybe seahorse then ?20:01
noelitoYes, I have XP Pro with NTFS in my network. I was trying to use SMBFS with autofs. Is this the best way to do this?20:01
erUSULseahorse-agent20:02
karkihi20:02
erUSUL!samba | noelito20:02
noelitocorrect20:02
al_would there be a way to run a simple test of the sound card from the command line?20:02
drcsoldanthat one isnt even installed20:03
jmyersAnyone able to recommend some alternatives to Wine?  I'm trying to run a training video program that uses Flash (ComptTIA A+ certification exam prep stuff), and it's not working under Wine.  It's possible that it has something to do with the AMD 64 architecture. :/20:04
ubottunoelito: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.20:04
wvdReactOS?20:04
wvdOr is that something different.20:04
guntbertdrcsoldan: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)20:04
DopeGhotijmyers: KVM or virtualbox?20:04
erUSULjmyers: there are comercial supported wine deribatives. cedega and crossover20:05
janhajhello.. is here anybody, who have external usb tv tuner Gigabyte U8000 and Ubuntu 9.10?20:05
erUSULjmyers: another option is to run winXP on Virtualbox20:05
isolat3dsh33p!virtualizers | jmyers20:05
ubottujmyers: There are several solutions for running other operating systems (or their programs) inside Ubuntu, while using the native CPU as much as possible: !QEmu (with !KQemu), !VirtualBox, !VMWare, as well as !WINE and !Cedega for Windows applications20:05
jmyersok, was just overwhelmed with information there. lol20:06
kat666witam20:07
DopeGhotijmyers: welcome to #ubuntu ;)20:07
noelitoThanks ubottu!20:07
jmyersDopeGhoti: I'm not sure how to answer your question.  I'm not running a virtual box, but I don't know what KVM is.20:07
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k261sera20:07
guntbert!it | k26120:07
erUSUL!kvm20:07
jmyersDopeGhoti: wouldn't have been so bad except I lagged and 3 pages of text flooded by20:07
ubottuk261: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)20:07
ubottukvm is the preferred virtualization approach in Ubuntu. For more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM20:07
DopeGhotijmyers: KVM and Virtualbox are options for running an actual Windows installation on a virtial CP20:07
DopeGhotijmyers: er, PC20:07
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al_is there a way to get into the gui booting from the cd?20:08
jmyersDopeGhoti: ah, I have grub multibooting to WinXP, I just don't wanna load the garbage. :(20:08
jmyersDopeGhoti: actually, I take that back.  I wiped WinXP last night when I formatted the drive to ext3. :)20:08
docmaxwhich player are you using when doubleclicking an MP3 file?20:08
DopeGhotijmyers: Advantage of virtualization: not having to reboot the _real_ operating system :)20:09
docmaxwhich player are you using when doubleclicking an MP3 file in ubuntu?20:09
jmyersDopeGhoti: Windows can suck a bag of .. well, I'll refrain from finishing that statement cuz there are kids here.20:09
erUSULdocmax: totem ?20:09
jmyersDopeGhoti: I had ubuntu in a virtual box on windows for the longest, I just decided to bite the bullet and learn the real OS anyways.  Sick of windows flakey unstable garbage anyway.20:09
XeliHello! I'm trying to cross compile dnsmasq, but i run into a header problem, dnsmasq has the type "HEADER" and my ubuntu install has it, but the target of my crosscompiler (android) doesn't could anyone point me to the header where this type should be defined? it's kinda hard to google..20:09
DopeGhotijmyers: And thus, you were Enlightened ;)20:10
juliohi there, is it possible to have 2 keyboard layouts?20:11
jmyersDopeGhoti: problem is, I may have made the leap too soon.  Struggling to get all my hardware running just so-so.  Expecially on this AMD 64 architecture.  Seems like howto's and packages are doubly hard to find and install for this architecture. :(20:11
julioi'm on a laptop and would like to use it's own keyboard in latam and a usb one in english20:11
jmyersDopeGhoti: I've been trying to get my ATI Radeon HD 4850 to work right for 3 days. :/20:12
zilla1jmyers: try it on IA6420:12
jmyerszilla1: try what on IA64?20:12
xinehow can i access ext 4 from win 7?20:12
zilla1jmyers: i mean, its even harder to get things working on itanium20:12
jmyerszilla1: OH, yeah.  No thanks.  Struggling plenty enough as it is.20:13
drcsoldanok, mounting the windows drive works with sudo mount etc., but not with gnome. whats the problem? (error: "authentication is required")20:13
DopeGhotijmyers: mm, ATI/AMD video card support has been somewhat lacking :/20:13
jmyerszilla1: got a $200 video card I can't use. :P20:13
agntdrakedoes anyone know how to make the various drives visible as /dev devices in the ubuntu installation environment?20:13
insm0djulio, It is possible to get different keyboard layouts running on different keyboards.  In the past it involved editing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file but I think it's now done with HAL.  Try searching for 'keyboard layout hal'20:14
jmyersDopeGhoti: it's crazy.  When I run sh on the driver, and use the --buildandinstallpkg Ubuntu/karmic switch on it, it SORTA works.20:14
julioinsm0d, ok i'll google it out20:15
juliothanks20:15
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jmyersDopeGhoti: BUT, I gotta run it in the 2.6.31-14 grub option, and not the 2.6.31-16 option, and it accelleration is SOOOOO SLOW.  Windows chop and stuff when I try and move them.  The only advantage is I can set the resolution, and it doesn't run off the edges of my hdtv like it does with the standard video drivers20:15
xpololzHi, i was working with some c source file and runned it in terminal on gedit, i made a loop that runned for ever and in attempt to stop the program from running i clicked ctrl+c, now i cant open the file in gedit. What to do? :s dont wanna rewrite all the code :(20:15
blizzkidAny idea on how to control the "num lock" led in karmic?20:16
oCean_agntdrake: what?20:16
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agntdrakeocean_:  I just want to be able to access the /dev devices in a terminal20:16
isolat3dsh33pblizzkid: What's wrong with your led?20:17
agntdrakeI think they're not mounted yet20:17
oCean_!mount | agntdrake20:17
ubottuagntdrake: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount20:17
isolat3dsh33pxpololz: When you clicked the file, does anything happen?20:17
agntdrakesorry, I shouldn't have said "mount"20:17
agntdrakeI meant visible20:17
agntdrakeI don't need to actually mount the devices20:18
agntdrakeerr partitions20:18
blizzkidisolat3dsh33p: nothing wrong, I want to test http://simo.h.mattila.googlepages.com/led-notification but don't find correct files in /proc/acpi20:18
agntdrakeon the devices20:18
Jamedagntdrake: so the don't appear when you do "sudo fdisk -l"?20:18
oCean_agntdrake: to *access* the devices, you have to mount them. They are always visible when you do "ls /dev/sd*"20:18
oCean_agntdrake: a try "sudo fdisk -l"20:18
insm0dagntdrake, what do you need done?20:18
xpololzisolat3dsh33p: if i open it with gedit.. gedit has not been able to detect the character coding. Please check that you are not trying to open a binary file. Select a character coding from the menu and try again20:18
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agntdrakenm.. I didn't realize that installer started up as the ubuntu user, and not root20:19
oCean_!afk | jmyersAway20:19
ubottujmyersAway: You should avoid noisy away messages in a busy channel like #ubuntu, or other Ubuntu channels; it causes excessive scrolling which is unfair to new users. Use the command "/away <reason>" to set your client away silently.  See also «/msg ubottu Guidelines»20:19
agntdrakeso when I typed "fdisk -l" it didn't return anything.  "ntfsresize" would say "permission denied" which should have clued me in20:19
isolat3dsh33pxpololz: Are you sure that's the source file?20:20
guntbertagntdrake: you need sudo fdisk -l20:20
xpololzisolat3dsh33p: 100% sure20:20
agntdrakeguntbert:  yes, I see that now20:20
agntdrakeyay for not typing 'whoami'20:20
riverbirdal_, what cd version do you have?20:20
trijntjeUsing Evolution with gmail: I didnt select 'leave messages on server', but I can still see all mesages in gmail.com. Did I do something wrong?20:20
al_why does my live cd take me to the command line??20:20
guntbertxpololz: type file <yoursourcefile>20:20
al_riverbird: umm, 9.0420:20
al_and tried Kubuntu too20:20
DopeGhotial_: anything unusual in th elogs?20:21
riverbirdi386.alt? or ..?20:21
xpololzguntbert: i get up following: ab.c: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, not stripped20:21
michi__hi20:21
al_DopeGhoti: whats the command to binrg tht up?20:21
riverbirdal_, are you trying to do a new install with a live cd? or .. ??20:22
mordofgot my guitar hooked up to my line in..  anyone able to help getting audacity (or the default sound recorder for that matter) to pick it up for recording?20:22
mr_engineershould i trust this (to install kernel 2.6.32-x) http://www.ramoonus.nl/2009/12/03/linux-kernel-2-6-32-installation-guide-for-ubuntu-linux/20:22
guntbertxpololz: that is defintely no source file - it an executable file20:22
DopeGhotial_: ls /var/logs/  then less /var/log/$logfile20:22
al_DopeGhoti: all i want to do is test the sound output on this pc. can I do that from the command line of the live cd?20:22
mordofi can't seem to get any input at all20:22
mr_engineerI just dont want to get my graphics ***** up again20:22
oCean_trijntje: in settings @gmail, there's also an option like "leave copy in gmail's inbox"20:22
insm0dxpololz, you are trying to open up a program file.  It's binary format so you really can't look at it or edit it with a text editor.  You might be after a hex editor, but be careful what you do20:22
michi__im running the latest live dvd and miss grub. i only have grub-setup, grub-install and a bunch of others i have no clue about20:22
xpololzguntbert: yeah i could see that :S but how did it become an executable and how do i get it "back" ? :S20:22
insm0dal_20:22
DopeGhotial_: hmm, you could try cat /path/to/some/mp3 > /dev/dsp20:22
epinky!grub2 | michi__20:23
ubottumichi__: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub220:23
isolat3dsh33pblizzkid: I have /proc/acpi :/20:23
michi__oh ffs20:23
michi__which is the latest version running grub1?20:23
michi__thanks for the info btw?20:23
isolat3dsh33pxpololz: Sorry, can't help you :(20:23
SwedeMikemichi__: 9.0420:23
xpololzIt was a source file not an executable, until i clicked ctrl+c in terminal while it was running. Now i cant open it because gedit think its an exe20:23
trijntjeoCean_, thanks a lot, I didnt think to look there20:23
michi__SwedeMike, thanks a lot!20:23
xpololzthanks for trying anyways20:24
guntbertxpololz: I only can guess: maybe you had a type in you compile statement? and no way to get that back - but look for a backup file with ls -al in that directory20:24
chiggavellidoes anybody can help me whit 9.10 i have  4GB of ram and just today i understood that box sees just 3Gb20:24
blizzkidisolat3dsh33p: I have it too, but not the files to control the led20:24
insm0dal_, maybe.  Try running sudo alsaconfig and try looking for alsaplayer or some sort of text mode multimedia player.  You might be able to send a file to the sound device but it sounds horrid20:24
guntbert*typo20:24
oCean_trijntje: on most popservers you will not have that option. Google went the extra stretch :)20:24
al_is there no wav or similar on live cd?20:24
xpololzguntbert: thanks, i will try that20:24
isolat3dsh33pblizzkid: You might had to create one :/20:24
starcannonWhat is the easiest way to create a new *default* fstab file? note, there is no backup of the original available.20:24
guntbertxpololz: Good luck :-)20:24
trijntjeoCean_, I thought discarding messages after download was default on pop?20:25
chiggavellianybody good whit enabling 4gb ram?20:25
eternaljoyis 9.10 the latest version?20:25
mr_engineercan somebody recommend me a way to install the linux kernel 2.6.32?20:25
trijntjeeternaljoy, yes20:25
oCean_trijntje: indeed20:25
badipodeternaljoy: Yup20:25
DopeGhotistarcannon: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l and I can try to write you an fstab20:25
trijntjechiggavelli, yes, try 64 bit20:25
eternaljoyok thanks20:25
isolat3dsh33pblizzkid: It's just a maybe D:20:25
DopeGhotistarcannon: you'll need to know the mount points of your partitions though if yo uhave many20:25
eternaljoyis myth tv in the distros?20:26
michi__SwedeMike, ehrm, is 9.04 still available for download somewhere?20:26
SwedeMikemichi__: yes.20:26
starcannonDopeGhoti I know the mount points, I don't have the fdisk -l output available at this moment though, but I have it memorized20:26
epinkystarcannon: just boot LiveCD, and copy /etc/fstab.pre-uuid20:26
trijntjeoCean_, as long as I can choose (and find the option) i'm happy ;)20:26
starcannonepinky ah really?20:26
chiggavellitrijntje, dont want to use not all software suport it20:26
eternaljoy!mythtv20:27
ubottumythtv is a TV framework for Linux - Instructions for using with Ubuntu at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MythTV - For discussion and specific support, try #ubuntu-mythtv20:27
starcannonepinky that'll rebuild it?20:27
chiggavelliis there another trick to use 32 bit whit 4GB?20:27
chiggavellitrijntje,20:27
michi__SwedeMike: i can only find 8.04, a hint would save my day20:27
xpololzguntbert: Awesome man!! i got it :D20:27
trijntjechiggavelli, it is impossible to use 4 gb RAM without 64 bit i'm afraid ;)20:27
insm0dstarcannon, Format is as follows: $DEVICE $MOUNT_POINT $FILE_SYSTEM $OPTIONS $DUMP $PASS20:27
guntbertxpololz: glad it worked :-)20:27
epinkystarcannon: in my very personal case fstab.pre-uuid of LiveCD and fstab installed are the same :)20:27
chiggavelliTo read more about PAE, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension20:27
chiggavellidoes this one not helps?20:27
al_what about starting the windows gui from the command line?20:27
michi__nevermind, got it20:28
Flannelal_: Windows GUI?20:28
DopeGhotial_: try /etc/init.d/gdm start20:28
DopeGhotial_: failing that, startx20:28
al_well bugger me, this time it started the windows20:28
eternaljoySwedeMike, hello20:28
xpololzguntbert: thanks :) Guess ill find another way to terminate a process when working like this20:28
chiggavellitrijntje,  so how to upgrade from 32 bit to 64bit whitout taking big effect for everything now installed?20:28
al_oddd20:28
DopeGhotial_: (for the record, it's "the X server", not "the Windows GUI" ;)20:28
starcannonepinky: ah i see, I could just copy the contents of fstab.pre-uuid into fstab20:28
al_DopeGhoti: er, ta. i wasnt sure of the correct terminology :_)20:28
insm0dchiggavelli, you just need a PAE enabled kernel.  I know there is one in the repos.20:29
trijntjechiggavelli, I dont think thats possible, but ask the channel to be sure20:29
studentzHi there I have problems with Xorg 2.6.31-16-generic X86 Karmic. I need some help20:29
DopeGhotial_: no problem. :)20:29
gogetawell trll us your problems20:29
guntbertxpololz: no - have a look at the command line when invoking gedit - you will most likely get you source overwritten again oif you don't change that20:29
chiggavelliinsm0d, can u give me a link20:29
guntbert*if20:29
starcannoninsm0d nod, thanks, I'm hoping not to build one from scratch, I always have to mess around getting permissions right afterwards20:29
gogetastarcannon: you can use the mini iso to build your own ubuntu using apt20:30
insm0dhttp://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/20:30
xpololzguntbert: Will do :)20:30
studentzAfter I login Xorg use 99% of CPU . I Had to log out and login back to use my laptop please help me20:30
starcannongogeta I'm not really trying to build my own distro, just restore a hosed up fstab in the easiest manner possible20:31
flavetius1maooooooooooooooo20:31
Flannelinsm0d: That page is out of date.  There is now a generic kernel with PAE20:31
al_well looks like sound on this pc is poked!20:31
manishi can't access my other drives from thunar file manager in xubuntu,as in, they are not present in the left window-pane...but if i open the file from a media player,they are.any solution?20:31
starcannongogeta the computer is actually about 1700 miles away, and everything is being passed over the phone and through pastebin, the connection is terrible so remote desktop is not an option(tried already)20:31
Flannelchiggavelli: You can't upgrade to 64bit (it's a reinstall), but you can install a PAE kernel, linux-generic-pae20:32
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erUSUL!info linux-generic-pae20:32
ubottulinux-generic-pae (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.31.16.29 (karmic), package size 3 kB, installed size 32 kB20:32
JumboJellyfishquestion: I just installed kubuntu (8.04) on a shuttle PC... I get to the log in screen, but when I enter my username/password and try to login, the monitor goes black (says no signal) and then returns to the login screen!20:32
studentzAfter I Log in Xorg use 99% of my CPU. I cannot do anything with my laptop20:32
chiggavellisudo apt-get install linux-server linux-headers-server linux-restricted-modules-server20:32
JumboJellyfishquestion: I just installed kubuntu (8.04) on a shuttle PC... I get to the log in screen, but when I enter my username/password and try to login, the monitor goes black (says no signal) and then returns to the login screen!20:33
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mr_engineerwhen is kernel 2.6.32 going to be used by default?20:33
Flannelchiggavelli: no, linux-generic-pae20:33
gh0stHello everyone, i have a server install (9.10) running on one hard drive with 2 partitions, one for OS, the other for storage. i have SSH access, and was wondering what is the command to list all partitions so i can mount it. eventually, id like to add it to fstab so it auto-mounts. Sorry for the noob question, but i kind of need a little bit of hand-holding on this one.20:33
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erUSULJumboJellyfish: boot into recovery mode and use the fix Xserver option (or if you end up in a root console run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' )20:33
guntbertgh0st: sudo fdisk -l20:33
erUSULgh0st: sudo fdisk -l20:33
Flannelmr_engineer: Lucid20:33
JumboJellyfisherUSUL, thanks i shall go try20:33
mr_engineeroh my..20:34
manishquick question-i can't access my other drives from thunar file manager in xubuntu,as in, they are not present in the left window-pane...but if i open the file from a media player,they are.any solution?20:34
starcannoninsm0d if I end up rebuilding from scratch, I can use dev locations instead of uuid if I choose right? I know I can use blkid to find uuid but its a bit of a pain because I am having to explain a lot of this "what to do" over the phone20:34
riverbirdmr_engineer, i think its already in 10.0420:34
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help_me_pleasehi guys i need help my computer doesnt want to start ubuntu20:34
erUSUL!latest | mr_engineer20:34
ubottumr_engineer: Packages in Ubuntu may not be the latest. Ubuntu aims for stability, "latest" may not be a good idea. Post-release updates are only considered if they are: fixes for security vulnerabilities, high impact bug fixes, or unintrusive bug fixes with substantial benefit. See also !backports.20:34
jmyers!virtualize20:34
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about virtualize20:34
Besogondoes ubuntu 10.04 use Gnome 3?20:34
FlannelBesogon: No, it won't.20:34
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erUSUL!virtualizers > jmyers20:34
jmyerswhat was that ! command again for virtualization?20:34
ubottujmyers, please see my private message20:35
mr_engineerFlannel, would you be so kind as to tell me if it is recommendable to install this kernel (because of the pulseaudio thing) and if there is a special guide i should follow?20:35
gh0stthe proper mount syntax then would be (after mkdir)   sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/mountpoint?20:35
jmyerserUSUL: thankya20:35
erUSULnp20:35
riverbird!virtualizers20:35
mr_engineerFlannel, what worries me is the nvidia drivers20:35
oCean_!fstab | gh0st follow the link20:35
jmyersmr_engineer: can't be any more of a PITA than ATI drivers on 64 bit.20:35
UnC00lI'm currently using xubuntu, installed it like 2 minutes ago? Running through Windows. I have used Ubuntu before, and I'm just wondering. Is it possible to use "Wine" in Xubuntu?20:35
erUSULUnC00l: yes20:36
UnC00lThank god! If thought my gaming days were over! :O20:36
starcannonarghh this isn't fixed yet?20:36
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oCean_gh0st: the channel bot went AWOL, i meant this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab20:36
jmyersAny of these virtualizers a little more noob friendly than others?  Wine isn't working for the app I'm trying to run.20:36
help_me_pleasecomputer is sayin "no init found. try passing init=bootarg20:36
help_me_pleasehi guys i need help my computer doesnt want to start ubuntu20:36
help_me_pleasehi guys i need help my computer doesnt want to start ubuntu20:36
erUSULjmyers: virtualbox20:36
isolat3dsh33pnice :D20:36
help_me_pleasecomputer is sayin "no init found. try passing init=bootarg20:36
philipp_hi does anyone know this widget on the right side of this picture? can someone tell me where i can download this? http://i34.tinypic.com/2lwsorl.jpg20:37
jmyerserUSUL: thankya, I forgot that's the one I was using to run Ubuntu on Windows XP. lol20:37
starcannonjmyers I like virtual box a lot, I find it easy to use, well documented, and quite capable.20:37
guntberthelp_me_please: don't repeat so often please20:37
jmyersVirtualbox it is!20:37
erUSULphilipp_: conky probably20:37
mr_engineerjmyers, lol what do you mean with pita?20:38
Anonymous2hi peoples20:38
UnC00lAnd one more thing. Since I'm running Xubuntu through Windows 7, I took like 30 gb from one of my harddrives. But now, in Xubuntu. Can I access the other drives in Windows? With like all my pictures, videos and such?20:38
mr_engineerjmyers, oh nvm20:38
starcannonjmyers I recommend getting the latest from their website20:38
jmyersmr_engineer: Pain in the Arse20:38
trijntjephilipp_, conky, but youll have to find or recreate the config file20:38
mr_engineerthanks anyway20:38
jmyersstarcannon: yeah, just checked synaptic, no luck.20:38
guntbertjmyers: please mind your language20:38
starcannonjmyers http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads20:38
eternaljoyi have a TV tuner stick, and software that lets me record TV shows into MPG format.. What can MythTV do for me?20:38
erUSUL!ntfs | UnC00l20:38
philipp_trijntje, thx ill search it20:38
manishhello ppl, is there any way to access the other drives in thuran file manager...they're not shown.20:39
ScoobyDooI'm trying to install ubuntu via the disc on a old computer with windows 98 on it, Via the disc, But it just hangs and says "boot from ATAI cdrom:"20:39
jmyersstarcannon: thanks link!20:39
starcannonjmyers they have .deb builds there for all the relevant releases of Ubuntu20:39
oCean_erUSUL: bot went AWOL20:39
mr_engineeri need somebody to guide me installing kernel 2.6.32 please (i have nvidia drivers)20:39
UnC00lOh yeah, Just remembered... Sorry for bothering. Thanks anyway20:39
erUSULoCean_: roger20:39
gh0sthow can i determine the filesystem in the unmounted partition? (/dev/sda2) fdisk -l only indicates extended20:39
BitEncryptwhere is the trash folder at in my home folder?20:39
help_me_pleasedoes anyone know what "target file system doesn't have /sbin/init" ?20:39
Anonymous2i must be lukcy, i got a nvidia gpu and all but graphics are perfect.20:39
jmyersguntbert: I WAS minding my language by using the alternative word for the A in the acronym. :P20:39
starcannonBitEncrypt, its a hidden file...20:39
erUSULUnC00l: install ntfs-config the run it « gksudo ntfs-config »20:39
Anonymous2from what i heard nvidia20:40
BitEncryptI know20:40
Anonymous2+ ubuntu = yuck20:40
oCean_gh0st: nope, fdisk -l lists all partitions20:40
guntbertjmyers: both are not acceptable here20:40
jmyersand by the way, Google Chrome for Linux OWNS Firefox. :)20:40
ScoobyDooclear20:40
vs93tarasokay guys20:40
starcannonBitEncrypt, I'm looking through now brb20:40
sshcBitEncrypt: it used to be ~/.Trash, but I heard it might have been changed20:40
ScoobyDooops20:40
erUSULgh0st: if you want to mount it use "-t auto"20:40
jmyersguntbert: well my apologies if I offended you.20:40
epaphusHey guys, i just got 9.10 karmic.. but i did apt-get install thunderbird and it installed thunderbird 2.. how do I get 3?20:40
ScoobyDooI'm trying to install ubuntu via the disc on a old computer with windows 98 on it, But it just hangs and says "boot from ATAI cdrom:"20:40
erUSULsshc: BitEncrypt ~/.local/share/Trash/20:40
vs93tarashas anyone had a problem with their mouse and keyboard freezing after a random amount of time?20:40
sshcBitEncrypt: the location of trash is actually specific to gnome20:41
oCean_gh0st: ah, now I see what you were asking :)20:41
manishhello ppl, is there any way to access the other drives in thuran file manager...they're not shown.20:41
guntbertBitEncrypt: The location of Trash has changed since 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash20:41
sshcBitEncrypt: ~/.local/share/Trash/20:41
erUSULScoobyDoo: hardware specs ?20:41
BitEncryptthx20:41
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Anonymous2manish: not that i am aware of right not20:41
Anonymous2whats wrong with the standard places menu20:41
gh0sterUSUL: mount is still complaining that i need to specify the filesystem. using this syntax:      sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda2 /media/Storage20:41
jmyersAwaysuh WEET.  Virtualbox has a AMD 64 bit ready to go!  luvit already20:41
JamedAnonymous2: i heard nvidia cards work well in ubuntu or linux in general. never had any problems also20:41
sshcBitEncrypt: /bin/rm (or rm from the terminal) removes permanently, and thus many people don't like to use it20:42
manishAnonymous2:can u tellme ANY way.....i'm a newbie :)20:42
ScoobyDooerUSUL: New to cocking about with computer hardware, All I can remember is the RAM is 256MB20:42
riverbirdScoobyDoo, whats you ram?20:42
vs93tarasdoes anyone know anything about the mouse and keyboard freezing up?20:42
sshcBitEncrypt: if you're using a terminal, you should always move (mv) things into whichever trash directory you have set up20:42
Anonymous2well you run ubuntu right manish20:42
erUSULScoobyDoo: i think that the livecd needs more ram than that. you maybe have to try with xubuntu via an alternatecd install20:42
jmyersAwayvs93taras: this has little to do with linux, but do you have overheating issues in your case?  Flakey things like that can often mean overheating issues.20:42
starcannonBitEncrypt, /home/username/.local/share/Trash20:43
guntbertjmyers: its not so much my personal feelings as the policy of this channel: to keep it family friendly20:43
oCean_gh0st: are you sure there is a filesystem on /dev/sda2?20:43
BitEncryptgot it thx20:43
usr13vs93taras: Yes, and it's almost always been memory related.  The last was one were only the keyboard word freeze, and even though the memory tested ok, I replaced it, (and a weak cmos battery), and problem solved.20:43
erUSULScoobyDoo: alternate is a text mode intall (like the first half of WinXP install)20:43
ScoobyDooerUSUL: Ah ok, Just just burn the xubuntu iso to a disc? nothing special?20:43
help_me_pleasedoes anyone know what "target file system doesn't have /sbin/init" ?20:43
oCean_gh0st: if it lists "Linux" it is probably ext3 of maybe even ext420:43
Anonymous2jamed: yea, but yea in general they work just fine i mean it's all based on GRAM addressing but, some have had some issues but it's common for anything20:43
erUSULScoobyDoo: yes the alternate one20:43
starcannonguntbert, sorry just saw you answered already20:43
riverbirdScoobyDoo, ditto erUSUL , but i think the ubuntu alternate will work too20:43
gh0stlet me triple-check20:43
vs93tarasjmyersAway: that would explain the fan going crazy when it happens20:43
oCean_gh0st: if you want, you can pastebin the fdisk -l output20:44
ScoobyDooerUSUL: alternate one?20:44
guntbertstarcannon: np - better two than none :-)20:44
manishAnonymous2: if i have to access any file on the other drives, how do i do that?.....dolphin has that feature....but its pretty heavy,and i'm guessing thuran won't take kindly to that20:44
usr13help_me_please: Is this a trivia question?20:44
gh0stpatebin'ing now20:44
BitEncryptthe icon says i have trash in folder. when i checked nothin there.20:44
Anonymous2manish: well running ubuntu right?20:44
manishXubuntu20:44
jmyersAwayvs93taras: usr13 also brings up an option.  Memory chips can sometimes flake out, or overheat and cause the problems too.  Do you have more than 1 memory chip installed?  Or did you change anything inside the case lately like upgrade a video card?20:44
Anonymous2ahh20:44
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erUSULScoobyDoo: there are two types of CD's the desktop and the alternate20:44
JamedAnonymous2: yeah, theres always some issues with some hardware, but my ati experience in linux was much worse than nvidia20:44
Anonymous2something i have to try20:44
erUSULScoobyDoo: for low memory systems use the alternate cd20:45
jmyersAnonymous2: um, don't get me started on trying to get my ATI 4850 going on Karmic AMD64. :P20:45
vs93tarasjmyers: i've tried every combo of my 4 mem chips20:45
gh0stoCean_: here is the fdisk -l output http://paste.ubuntu.com/342977/20:45
vs93tarasits probably overheating20:46
epaphushey guys,how can i install java 6 in ubuntu 9?20:46
robasgood day to all, what is the best partitioning for ubuntu? lets say I have 20 G disk20:46
vs93tarasi'll see if the answer lies in the bios20:46
erUSUL!java | epaphus20:46
manishAnonymous2: Xubuntu 9.10....and right now, i'm accessing files through the media player20:46
riverbirdScoobyDoo, the alternate can install with less ram, though doesn't run 'live'20:46
vs93tarasbrb20:46
erUSULepaphus: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre (or jdk)20:46
oCean_gh0st: /dev/sda2 says extended, that one you cannot mount. The sda5 and sda6 are within the extended partition20:46
epaphusthanks20:46
wolf_Люди кто здесь знает Руский20:46
jmyersvs93taras: take ALL out but 1, if it still does it, try a DIFFERENT single mem chip.  If it STILL does it, then put all your chips back in and install a case fan.  They are cheap (usually less than 10 bucks.  And if that doesn't work, I've been known to rig up an oscilating fan next to my left open case in the floor. ;)20:46
Jamed!ru | wolf_20:46
robaswolf Ja.. no20:46
oCean_gh0st: those you can mount. /dev/sda5 probably as ext3 and sda6 as swap20:47
guntbertwolf_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke20:47
epaphushello what is the best way to install skype??20:47
gh0stoCean_: what partiton should i be aiming for then? it would be the Largest one, i have hundreds of gigs on it20:47
Jamedubottu dead again?20:47
riverbirdScoobyDoo, i might start w. 8.0420:47
wolfeydoes this 'install to usb' gui erase usb disk? or just installs and leaves ntfs data?20:47
jmyersJamed: he split off onto another portion of the network20:48
jussio1Jamed: shell be back soon20:48
studentzNeeeed help After I login my laptop it's almost freeze.  top shows Xorg uses 99% of my CPU20:48
Jamedjmyers: ah thanks for the indo20:48
epaphus!skype | epaphus20:48
Jamed*info20:48
epaphus:(20:48
wolf_чё здесь ниодного руского или украинского человека нет?20:48
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mihadoes this 'install to usb' gui erase usb disk? or just installs and leaves ntfs data?20:48
oCean_gh0st: yep, that'll probably be /dev/sda5. try "sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt"20:48
Anonymous4dang connection dropped20:48
robaswolf shto slucylos?20:48
erUSULmiha: the former afaik20:48
jmyersepaphus: did you try skype.com and clicking on downloads to see if they have any linux download options?20:48
mihaerUSUL:  ahh too bad20:48
Anonymous4anonymous 2 is now anonymous 420:49
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usr13jmyers: epaphus skype is in repos20:49
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manishIs there any way to access the other drives in thuran file manager...they're not shown, and i can only see them thru open file option in the media players20:49
ScoobyDooriverbird: Ah ok, Doesnt matter about the live thing, I want to install in to my drive anyway. I can find the normal Xubuntu but not the alt one20:49
riverbirdmiha, it will erase the usb, unless you partition it20:49
wolf_Люди а как зделать в 9 Убунте класные темы окон20:49
gh0stoCean_: wtf? its my normal OS partition xD, its now double mounted20:50
guntbertwolf_: english only please20:50
echofishI have an external ext4 hd. What should I write in fstab to get it rw for everyone?20:50
gh0stim like breaking my system :(20:50
oCean_gh0st: just "sudo umount /mnt"20:50
Anonymous4anyone here recommend a clustering app for my servers20:50
bdfoster_iPhone!russian | wolf_20:50
Anonymous4something to cluster with20:50
erUSUL!addinfs | echofish20:50
bdfoster_iPhoneubottu's down?20:51
jmyersusr13: it's not showing up in synaptic for me.  Just some skype tools and addons.20:51
oCean_gh0st: is your large partition on another disk?20:51
erUSULechofish: set correct permissions for the folders inside the disk20:51
Jamedwolf_: please join #ubuntu-ru for russian support20:51
jmyersepaphus: when I go to skype.com and click the download link, it shows all kinds of options for lots of linux distros.20:51
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erUSULjmyers: medibuntu repositories has skype20:52
gh0stit wont let go of the partition now :( output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342982/   and no, its all on one disk20:52
echofisherUSUL: I want everyone to create and modify everything on the disk20:52
usr13Anonymous4: http://freshmeat.net/articles/linux-clustering-software20:52
Anonymous4jamed: what other distro's you running20:52
ScoobyDooerUSUL: riverbird: Getting it now, Thanks Alot :-) 50 minutes to wait for the download though :-(20:52
Anonymous4thanks usr1320:52
erUSULechofish: then make all the root folders on the disk belong to a group all users belong or writtable by anyone20:52
JamedAnonymous4: archlinux20:52
jmyerserUSUL: I've only been using linux seriously for a couple weeks now, I haven't gotten around to adding any repositories to my synaptic manager.  Terrified I'll break something before I know how to fix it in terminal. lol20:53
Anonymous4jamed: that it?20:53
oCean_gh0st: you are probably *on* the /mnt partion.20:53
wolf_People halp me russian20:53
erUSULjmyers: got to www.medibuntu.org (you will need it to watch comercial DVD anyway)20:53
usr13jmyers: sudo apt-get install skype20:53
echofisherUSUL: isn't there a way to do it in fstab?20:53
Piciwolf_: /join #ubuntu-ru20:53
oCean_wolf_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke20:53
erUSULwolf_: /j #ubuntu-ru20:53
JamedAnonymous4: you mean is?20:53
gh0styou were right, it let go now20:53
vs93tarasso what can I do to stop overheating?20:53
epaphusIs thunderbird3 called Shredder 3 now???20:54
lluacp -R "copy directories recursively" what do they mean by that?20:54
jmyerserUSUL: lol, I do need to set this box up to play DVD's.  I gotta sell my 360. :(20:54
mr_engineercan anybody help me install the new 2.6.32 kernel?20:54
vs93tarasjmyers: if its overheating what can I do?20:54
mr_engineeri would really appreciate20:54
ardchoillellua: copy the directory and all directories inside it20:54
erUSULechofish: no; ext4 is native linux. the only fs that accept mount time umasks and owner switchs are fs that do not have unix permission support. the kernel fakes them at mount point20:54
Anonymous4Wolf_: Они хотят, чтобы вы присоединились скандируют # Ubuntu-RU причинить вам говорить русский, и мы не понимаем20:54
wolf_Спасибо люди (-:20:54
lluaardchoille, ty20:55
erUSULjmyers: :/20:55
bastidrazorllua: copy everything in that directory.. all sub directories everything.20:55
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oCean_gh0st: what was your initial pastebin again? the fdisk output?20:55
oCean_gh0st: wait  -have it20:55
gh0stoCean_: if it is an NTFS partition (not sure if it is) since its a server install, so i need ntfs-utils?   re-pastebin'ing fdisk20:55
robasAnyone? 20Gb hard disk. What would be the best partition for it? and with what?  planning to have 10 for home.20:55
oCean_gh0st: your /dev/sda1 is pretty large partition.20:55
jmyerserUSUL: NICE, now I see why it's not in my synaptic manager too. :D20:55
pc04fuck20:55
oCean_gh0st: try "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"20:55
Anonymous4wolf_: Я не говорю русский я использую Google Translate,20:56
usr13pc04: That's enough!20:56
jmyerspc04: oh my, you got a way about starting out in a room.20:56
ardchoille!ru | Anonymous420:56
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robaspaulius lietuviu kalba?20:56
Anonymous4wolf_: Не за что20:56
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pc04sorrry i not speak english20:57
pc04but20:57
fogriderI got an issue with ubuntu desktop 9.10    .... Activated nvidia driver for video card and was asked to rebooted. now all i get is a login in the shell. And it's flashing so i can't even login.20:57
erUSULpc04: you can go to your country channel20:57
pc04fuck20:57
Anonymous4im just telling the man in his lanuage to go to #ubuntu-ru20:57
gh0stoCean_: EXCELLENT, that is the partition :) and to auto-mount that @ boot, i have to fstab?20:57
usr13pc04: The topic is ubuntu and the language (on this channel) is english.20:57
riverbirdmr_engineer, you could try setting up lucid if you have some spare room ..20:57
echofisherUSUL: will the group "nogroup" work for this?20:57
wolf_Anonymous4 you cool man20:58
Anonymous4usr13: i was telling the man in russian to use the russian ubuntu support thats all20:58
mr_engineerriverbird, hm.. you mean making new partition for a clean install and all?20:58
Anonymous4wolf_: Не за что20:58
oCean_gh0st: yes. That is not all too hard. You could try yourself: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab20:58
erUSULechofish: no users is best. then make sure all users are in it. or just make all folder read/writtable by anyone20:58
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fogriderI got an issue with ubuntu desktop 9.10    .... Activated nvidia driver for video card and was asked to rebooted. now all i get is a login in the shell. And it's flashing so i can't even login.20:58
Anonymous4wolf_:Спасибо, пренебрежение последнее сообщение20:58
oCean_gh0st: since it's a linux filesystem, you have nothing to worry about the advanced options. This is just a straigtforward entry in /etc/fstab.20:58
ctmjrllua: in short it means repeat until it is done or in the cp command copy everything20:59
echofisherUSUL: how?20:59
riverbirdmr_ yup.  ?? why not?  are you running 9.10 now?20:59
gh0stoCean_: thanks for the link and all the help, appreciate your patience, im going to go read that page, if i bump into problems, i'll come back on, but hopefully, i'll succeed first try. thanks again20:59
wolf_yes 9.1021:00
oCean_gh0st: that's the way :-) Glad to be of help21:00
usr13fogrider: Ctrl-Alt-F6 and fix xorg21:00
tileni have some problem on ubuntu 9.10 they say me wired network you are now offline dont work tiwh dhclient whats wrong?21:00
riverbirdmr_engineer,  yup.  ?? why not?  are you running 9.10 now?21:00
mr_engineerriverbird, yes21:00
mr_engineerbut making a new partition would take hours here21:00
erUSULechofish: permissions in unix/linux are rwx - rwx - rwx the last three letters are the permission for "anyone" (the first are for the owner the second for group)21:01
ergenekons.a arkadaşlar21:01
mr_engineeri'm just willing to install a new kernel... please read this text and tell me if that means i will have NO nvidia graphic problems "The included kernel files have been compiled using the generic ubuntu configuration.21:01
mr_engineerNote: nVIDIA ForceWare drivers are automatically installed using DKMS (which is included in Ubuntu 8.10 and higher including 9.04 and 9.10)"21:01
usr13fogrider: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop21:01
epaphusIs thunderbird3 called Shredder 3 now???21:01
usr13fogrider: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg21:02
ergenekonxubuntu kullanıyorum ama efecktleri açamadım yardımcı olurmusunuz21:02
usr13fogrider: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start21:02
BitEncryptmy trash says there is something there, when i checked nothin there21:02
fogriderusr13: i can't enter any commands.... screen is flashing and it wouldn't let me enter anything21:02
oCean_!tr | ergenekon21:02
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usr13fogrider: Ctrl-Alt-F621:02
oCean_ergenekon: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.21:02
echofisherUSUL: do I set this with chmod?21:02
Anonymous4BitEncrypter: it happens but goes away if not maybe you have a hidden file in there21:02
riverbirdmr_engineer, cant really help you there. not much of a graphics user ..21:03
Anonymous4ctrl+h will show any hidden files or folders21:03
usr13fogrider: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69076021:03
fogriderusr13: when do i etner that? and what will it do?21:03
fogriderusr13: thanks i'm goni to the link now21:03
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usr13fogrider: now.  It will take you to console mode, (tty6)21:03
erUSULechofish: yes you can use chmod o+rwx for folders o+rw for files21:03
mr_engineerriverbird, anyway, if this whole thing fails, how can i restore my system?21:04
BitEncrypti checked the folder option21:04
caja2_Anyone knows about Serial Port emulation?21:04
BitEncryptstill nithing21:04
usr13caja2_: Ask your question.21:04
BitEncryptill restart brb21:04
Anonymous4bitencrypter: i have had this happen to but generally after you restart the computer it disappears21:05
oCean_mr_engineer: are you *sure* you need the 2.6.32?21:05
Anonymous4cool21:05
mr_engineeroCean_, i dont NEED it, but it could come in handy21:05
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mr_engineerto use alsa instead of pulseaudio21:05
riverbirdmr_engineer, i'm the wrong guy to ask that.  maybe you could run the lucid as a live cd to check?21:05
celtic426Hey guys, I need some help.  I reinstalled grub on my system after i installed Windows 7 (I have Ubuntu 9.10 installed too).  Grub has an entry for Windows but when I try it, it starts to boot but then windows says cannot find the boot device or something and asks to put in the windows repair cd.  but if I use the windows repair cd I will have to reinstall grub again.  Any ideas?21:05
mr_engineerwhich would solve general problems in my pc21:05
mr_engineerriverbird, ok dont worry then21:05
mr_engineeroCean_, could you help me with it?21:05
usr13!grub | celtic42621:05
oCean_mr_engineer: you're saying alsa does not work with current kernel?21:06
celtic426usr13 what does that mean?21:06
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usr13celtic426: It means the bot is broke.21:06
Anonymous4celtic426: always install ubuntu after windows, i have seen it people install windows after and bam windows erases the MBR and puts on windows mbr21:06
mr_engineeroCean_, no, it does work, but i've heard it replaces pulseaudio in this kernel21:07
echofish_erUSUL: sudo chmod o+rwx /media/disk ?21:07
caja2_I want to emulate a USB printer I have to a Serial port, so I can use it with a Java application.21:07
caja2_Anyone?21:07
BitEncryptim such a noob21:07
Anonymous4bitencrypt : it gone?21:07
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BitEncryptyep21:07
Anonymous4:)21:07
celtic426anonymous4 yeah i know but ive had ubuntu for a while and now i just wanted to try win7.  do u know any way i can fix it?21:07
usr13celtic426:  Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See21:07
usr13               https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos:21:07
usr13               https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto21:07
erUSULechofish_: chmod o+rwx /media/disk/somefolder chmod o+rwx /media/disk/someotherfolder21:07
oCean_mr_engineer: sure alsa works with current kernel, a many, many previous versions21:07
Anonymous4celtic426: not really, i am a X- Windows user21:07
celtic426usr13, ive already done those steps and restored grub.  im able to use grub to get to ubuntu, windows does not work tho21:07
mr_engineeroCean_, it does work, but pulseaudio is used instead of it21:08
epaphushey guys, i installed Shredder 3 by error.. how can I get it to be removed?21:08
celtic426anonymous aren't we all21:08
echofish_erUSUL: doesn't it work to set it on the root folder of the disk?21:08
oCean_mr_engineer: no one here recommends building your own kernel, but if you exist, see guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile21:08
mr_engineeroCean_, my whole goal here is this: 1. install new kernel 2. keep graphics drivers working21:08
mr_engineeroCean_, i have downloaded 3 deb files that have the kernel compiled21:08
erUSULechofish_: could work. it is just somewhat ugly for an oldtimer like me21:08
Anonymous4bitencrypt: yea first time i used ubuntu i had same question but i thought hey let me just restart see what happens (curiosity) :)21:08
mr_engineeroCean_, and it says that dkms takes care of nvidia forceware drivers, but i dont know exactly what that means21:09
echofish_erUSUL: okey, thanks21:09
Anonymous4celtic426: possibly21:09
usr13celtic426: pastebinit fdisk -l ; pastebinit /boot/grub/menu.lst21:09
oCean_mr_engineer: beware: if you build your own kernel, and things don't work anymore, support might be hard to come by21:09
mr_engineeri don't want to be botting up with a console asking me for options to compile drivers21:09
gh0stoCean_: Just wanted to pop-back in for a sec and say thanks, it all went over great, thanks again!21:09
studentzHelpppp After I login my laptop freezes21:10
oCean_gh0st: nice to hear. That's what we're here for :)21:10
BitEncryptAnonymous: yea...should of went with my gut21:10
Anonymous4bitencrypt: well in sense we are all noob (if you were to compare to linus, oh yea were door knobs)21:11
ganymedei nearly filled a certain XFS volume to full capacity by moving in a bunch of small files but then when i checked df -h, i saw that it had 40 MB left so i quickly hit ctrl+c on the mv process. however, after i cancelled the mv process, the disk continued processing a lot (i could hear it) and the free space slowly increased to 52 MB. what could that be? i didn't lose any data, did i? if the disk filled completely, it wouldn't delete random file21:11
ganymedes to make room, right?21:11
Anonymous4well time to startup my packet sniffer21:11
celtic426anonymous4, heres the pastebin for fdsisk: http://pastebin.com/m109c5221  .  however, when i did /boot/grub/menu.lst  it opened a blank file.  is that because i have grub2?21:12
usr13celtic426: Sorry I told you wrong, first do:21:12
bgjslHi guys again21:12
usr13sudo fdisk -l > hd-info.txt | pastebinit hd-info.txt21:12
bgjsldo not use ubuntu 9.1021:12
caja2_no one?21:12
tsimpsonusr13: that's also wrong21:13
bgjslit has severel issues21:13
celtic426usr13, im installing pastebinit now21:13
usr13bgjsl: Sure, no problem?21:13
BitEncrypti like 9.1021:13
Anonymous4celtic426: you got alot of disks21:13
SubbyHi, I accidently klicked on my desktop using xkill, can I get my symbols back without logout&in again?21:13
celtic426anonymous4, one disk, lots of patitions.  ya i gotta sort that out.  http://pastebin.com/f5a2bf1f7    wow thats a handy program21:13
SydneyElisehow do i send private message?21:14
fogrideri activated a nvidia  video driver and was asked to reboot. when it comes up i am at ttl1 and it is flashing and doesn't barely picks up my keyboard when i try and login. how can i recover my gui after this?21:14
Threetimes!4gb21:14
Threetimes!4g21:14
usr13sudo fdisk -l > hd-info.txt ; pastebinit hd-info.txt21:14
Hiallhttp://paste2.org/p/564698 get that when trying to update ntp.. on hardy any ideas? :|21:14
usr13celtic426: ^^^21:15
celtic426anonymous4, sda1 is WinXP, sda3 is Win7, sda5 is storage, sda8 is Ubuntu9.1021:15
usr13sorry21:15
Anonymous4celtic426: let me get you a small clip of the menu.lst file.21:15
Anonymous4this ways i can show you what you want to do21:15
bastidrazorceltic426: grub2 does not use a menu.lst21:15
celtic426bastidrazor yeah i know21:16
celtic426anonymous4, that pastebin u sent me, am i supposed to do anything with it?21:16
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Anonymous4cletic426: i didn't send you anything21:16
Anonymous4celtic426: ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###21:17
Anonymous4menuentry "Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.31-16-generic" {21:17
Anonymous4        recordfail=121:17
Anonymous4        if [ -n ${have_grubenv} ]; then save_env recordfail; fi21:17
Anonymous4set quiet=121:17
FloodBot4Anonymous4: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:17
celtic426anonymous4, my bad, here: http://pastebin.com/f44f84a5b21:17
woodyjlwI have some questions about gps navigation with linux.... I have been using roadnav with pretty good successes but it seems like roadnav may have been abandoned or maybe the new vresion is under different name and website but I would like to know if anyone else is using GPS navigation with ubuntu with something other than roadnav. I want to stick with linux native software21:17
celtic426anonymous2 here http://pastebin.com/f44f84a5b21:17
tarelerulzanyone using the new hand brake ?  I ripped a movies an totem is the only thing it plays normal on .  Any reason that could be .  banshee which use gstream too21:17
Anonymous2couldn't find menu.lst in my grub folder but i guess they don't use menu.lst that or im just blind21:18
celtic426yeah they dont anonymous221:18
celtic426grub2 is different, u update grub by just typing grub-update or something in the terminal21:18
Anonymous2i miss the old menu.lst21:18
ardchoille!grub2 | Anonymous221:18
ubottuAnonymous2: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub221:18
JamedAnonymous2: they use grub.cfg now21:18
Anonymous2Jamed: yea i found that out when i open grub.cfg21:19
Anonymous2anrdchoille: thanks21:19
fogrideri activated a nvidia  video driver and was asked to reboot. when it comes up i am at ttl1 and it is flashing and doesn't barely picks up my keyboard when i try and login. how can i recover my gui after this?21:19
Anonymous2ubottu: thanks also21:19
usr13celtic426: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub221:19
celtic426usr13, im familiar with that...im facing a problem that is not listed there now21:20
Anonymous2I have been using my server which runs 8.04  so im just so use to grub with menu.lst that and i use ubuntu sure as my native os but i don't do to much with the root files anymore21:20
MaSSaSLaYeRubuntu doesn't want to log me in. but in terminal i can log in21:21
usr13celtic426: pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg21:21
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celtic426usr13, http://pastebin.com/f78518a621:21
Anonymous2device.map21:21
Guest007Hello, I wonder if anybody could help me please?21:22
Anonymous2how many people use Linux as there native OS?21:22
nmvictorany nofy know of a one line command that would generate javadocs from *.java files in a directory ~/Desktop/estudent  and compress the files and dir generated to a zip file?21:22
fogrideri activated a nvidia  video driver and was asked to reboot. when it comes up i am at ttl1 and it is flashing and doesn't barely picks up my keyboard when i try and login. how can i get to a ttl that i can log into or recover my gui?21:23
nmvictoranybody know of a one line command that would generate javadocs from *.java files in a directory ~/Desktop/estudent  and compress the files and dir generated to a zip file?21:23
bastidrazorAnonymous2: feel free to poll in #ubuntu-offtopic. Not here, Please.21:23
topiola21:23
woodyjlwI do........hate MS!21:23
topi!list21:23
ubottuThis is not a file sharing channel (or network); be sure to read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot »21:23
CrazyJohnafternoon all, I would like to open a odt file, how can I do it?21:23
Anonymous2bastidrazor: i was just asking for reasons of my own21:23
nmvictorwoodyjlw: i share that with you21:23
marcor1820question: i just installed kubuntu 8.04, and when i try to log in the monitor blanks and turns on again at which point i am back at the log in screen. i have already tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" to no avail21:24
Lunar_LampHow do I find out when THunderbird3 will make it into the repos?21:24
isolat3dsh33pwoodyjlw: why would you hate MS?21:24
bastidrazorAnonymous2: it is offtopic for this channel.21:24
bgjslguys if someone tell me how to upgrade wmp9 to wmp10 running wine in ubuntu 9.04 !!21:24
FloodBot4!netsplit21:24
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit21:24
Anonymous2bastidrazor: linux offtopic yea right21:24
ryufandoes anybody know how to use a laptop with ics as a modem to my router?21:24
bgjslguys if someone tell me how to upgrade wmp9 to wmp10 running wine in ubuntu 9.04 !!21:24
woodyjlwyea . if I have any MS software I used I try to find a linux version. to keep MS software off my linux aswell21:25
Guest007I am trying to install Ubuntu on a ide drive however once installed the installation checks itself but comes up with the message "no root file system is defined, please change this at the partioning menu" however this won't allow me to go back? Any ideas?21:25
marcor1820question: i just installed kubuntu 8.04, and when i try to log in the monitor blanks and turns on again at which point i am back at the log in screen. i have already tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" to no avail21:25
usr13celtic426:  Line 124  set root=(hd0,1)  #try hd0,021:25
woodyjlwtoo many bug and viruses21:25
DarsVaedahi can i get a list of updates by day i have installed?21:25
CrazyJohnafternoon all, I would like to open a odt file from the command line how can I go about this?21:25
bgjslguest007 hi do not fly high21:25
usr13ryufan: use ipmasquerade21:26
Guest007?21:26
bgjsljust follow instructions or guidelines21:26
fogrideri activated a nvidia  video driver and was asked to reboot. when it comes up i am at ttl1 and it is flashing and doesn't barely picks up my keyboard when i try and login so its impossible to enter my password. how can i recover my gui after this?21:26
Guest007bgjsl: I'm sorry I don't follow21:26
dimitarhi21:27
bgjslthat ans is normal when installing that system under that condition...21:27
dimitaris there any way to put transparent background on all windows in ubuntu 9.10?21:27
DarsVaedaits cause one of todays update killed the indicator-applet or whatever that is named where you can log off with, and now i can't logoff...at least with my mouse :P21:27
marcor1820question: i just installed kubuntu 8.04, and when i try to log in the monitor blanks and turns on again at which point i am back at the log in screen. i have already tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" to no avail21:27
woodyjlwI have another pc with windows 7 that is for gaming only. if I could get all my games to work under linux I would switch it to ubuntu to21:27
TcPk im having trouble with ubuntu and my router which was configured on a windows box. the problem is that i want to log into ssh hosted on my ubuntu box but the router has ports open allready and runs like its on server with its own ports open...so when i type in the  global ip address it takes me straight to the router. here a somewhat what the setup looks like host1.----->80,router,23,8080.<------host2ubuntu ssh2221:28
celtic426usr13, that sounds like a good idea but i cant save the file, it says you are trying to save the file on a read only disk, how do i fix this21:28
dimitaris there any way to put transparent background on all windows in ubuntu 9.10?21:28
usr13celtic426: sudo21:28
celtic426usr13 ya i did that21:28
bastidrazorTcP: you'll need to port forward 22 to the internal ip of the ubuntu box.21:29
celtic426i tried sudo gedit...  , and gksudo nautilus21:29
celtic426usr13 $$21:29
Anonymous2dimitar: theres some themes for ubuntu like it21:29
MaSSaSLaYeRwarning: unable to find users: no seat-id found21:29
dimitarwhere i can get them?21:29
nmvictorwhich is most prefered if i wanted to compres files to a zip file, zip or gzip?21:29
Anonymous2let me think of some21:29
bastidrazorTcP: also your ISP may possibly block ports, I know mine does, if so youcan tell ssh to listen on a different port and forward that port to the internal ip of the ubuntu box21:29
Anonymous2darkroom isn't transparent but some parts show up transparent well translucent21:30
fogriderusr13: can you help me out? is there a safe mode or something i can get to a ttl that will not be flashing and going crazy?21:30
TcPbastidrazor how do i go about the port forwarding. cause the router has portforwarding but not for the ssh port21:30
usr13celtic426: sudo vim /boot/grub/grub.cfg21:30
CrazyJohnfogrider, are you configuring your card?21:30
usr13fogrider: Ctrl-Alt-F121:30
rustyshacklefordnmvictor: I believe it depends on the file. I believe p7zip has a way to test and see which is going to be better21:30
dremitshi does anyone know why i'm getting command not found when running a .bin file21:30
dremits?21:30
fogridercrazyjohn: what card? I activated a nvidia driver and now i can't bootup.21:30
bastidrazorTcP: you'll need to look that up in your router documentation. it should be the same as any other port being forwarded. you should be able to choose which port you wish to forward.21:31
fogriderusr13: i get the same thing.... a ttl that is flashing and going crazy.21:31
rustyshackleforddremits: file extensions shouldn't matter in linux. what is the file supposed to do?21:31
CrazyJohnfogrider, nvidia card boot into level 3 then log in as root then nvidia-setting21:31
dimitarwhere i can get transparent themes for ubuntu 9.10?21:31
mrnicelupefogrider, is it colourful lines and random patterns, as if it were a heat problem?21:31
usr13fogrider: ssh from another PC21:31
dremitsit's an installer21:31
rcscomp1I am creating a LVM logical volume for virtual machine files (I.e. 250 GB files).  I am going to format ext4, what other formatting options should I use for a file system with large files?21:31
VirusTBquestion.... If someone send me an email (with  PDF attached) can i view the PDF on my iPhone??21:32
VirusTBsorry wrong room21:32
bastidrazorhttp://portforward.com/  TcP21:32
marcor1820question: i just installed kubuntu 8.04, and when i try to log in the monitor blanks and turns on again at which point i am back at the log in screen. i have already tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" to no avail21:32
dimitarwhere i can get transparent themes for ubuntu 9.10?21:32
dremitsrustyshackleford: it's an installer21:32
usr13fogrider: ssh user@192.168.X.X21:32
bastidrazor!theme | dimitar21:32
ubottudimitar: Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy21:32
fogriderusr13 i don't have it installed yet.21:32
Retro198909I have a hardrive question?21:32
rustyshacklefordfogrider: are you sure the card is good? I've had that kind of fragmenting on a bad graphics card before21:32
TcPbastidrazor is 37337 thanks dude21:32
rustyshacklefordRetro198909: !ask21:32
SnoothyWhen my ubuntu 9.10 does a soft lockup, how do I recover from and where do I find appropiate logs to identify the bug?21:32
fogriderruckyshackleford; yes it was working before the activating the new driver from nvidia21:32
mrqismrxI'm having problem with watching videos, I get horizontel lines screwing up my picture, like this http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/20672_03.png.html . I have tride to do a little bit of research and it seems there is ATI to blame? I use the fglrx driver now, should I change? I have turned of compiz (with fusion-icon but not so much of a result) I tried to set deinterlaced in gnome-mplayer and it somewhat helped but21:33
mrqismrx not fully. Any ideas please these is really annoying!21:33
nmvictorrustyshackleford: just got from man zip that zip would compress 1/more zip archives to another archive.I have html files generated by javadoc, could you be having an idea what i would do to compress them to a .zip file?21:33
celtic426usr13, that worked, it saved.  now ill test it out but it sounds like it should work.  thanks for your help21:33
DarsVaeda@snoothy /var/log21:33
dimitarthanks21:33
usr13fogrider: Check to see the display adapter is good and is seated fully into socket.21:33
usr13celtic426: NP21:33
Retro198909I have a computer that is about 3 or 4 years old with sata ports and was wondering if I could use a 1TB hardrive21:33
rustyshacklefordnmvictor: tar the directory into an archive, then zip it up  -- see man tar, man zip21:33
bgjslthat ans is normal when installing that system under that condition...21:34
bgjslguys if someone tell me how to upgrade wmp9 to wmp10 running wine in ubuntu 9.04 !!21:34
dremitsrustyshackleford: it's an installer21:34
fogriderusr13: I did that. plus it didn't move. it was working for a while.  then i activated the driver for nvidia and rebooted. never moved computer21:34
nmvictorrustyshackleford: thanks, letme check that out21:34
marcor1820question: i just installed kubuntu 8.04, and when i try to log in the monitor blanks and turns on again at which point i am back at the log in screen. i have already tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" to no avail21:34
rustyshacklefordRetro198909: shouldn't matter if the drive is compatible, linux file systems will handle it. don't go try installing win 3.1 on it or something and it should work21:34
alazyworkaholiccI just installed a secondary linux os to experiment with. os-prober didn't detect it so I put this http://pastebin.com/f65441e58 in /etc/grub.d/40_custom  & ran update-grub2. When I chose the OS at the grub menu I get a bunch of errors & I'm pretty sure they have to do with my 40_custom config rather than any problem with the OS itself. Would someone please take a look at the pastebin link & tell me if I got something21:34
fogriderusr13: seriously there is no safe mode or soemthing i can revert to? this is crazy21:34
Retro198909will xp work also21:34
SnoothyWhen I transfer files of 1+ gigs from windows to my /md0 drive on ubuntu using samba shares, the server locks up. But it only happens when i transfer with more than 40 mb/s ?21:34
rustyshackleforddremits: can't say without knowing what its supposed to do. best bet go to the forums for that particular program. make sure you're running it as a superuser (sudo ./myfile.bin)21:35
usr13fogrider: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change:  Driver "nvidia"  to Driver "nv"21:35
quizmehow do you add a program to start-up upon login/reboot?21:35
fogriderusr13: seriously dude... how am i suppose to edit that if i can't log in?21:35
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bgjsldimitar dont use 9.1021:35
usr13fogrider: you can't.21:36
Retro198909will my bios stop me if I use a 1 tb hardrive21:36
kaddi I need a tool that will allow me to edit a windows registry from unix.. if possible command line21:36
rustyshacklefordRetro198909: it'll work with XP, but you'll have to dual boot. - google dual booting to test it21:36
dimitarbgjsl why?21:36
usr13fogrider: ssh user@192.168.X.X21:36
fogriderusr13: wow. your helpful.   already told you i don't have that working yet. ssh is not an option yet21:36
rustyshacklefordRetro198909: I don't imagine it would, but i'd check with the manufacturer of your motherboard and bios, if you think that's a concern21:36
marcor1820question: i just installed kubuntu 8.04, and when i try to log in the monitor blanks and turns on again at which point i am back at the log in screen. i have already tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" to no avail21:36
dremitsrustyshackleford: thanks. i've got it to work: needed to chmod21:37
usr13fogrider: Use rescue mode (install CD)21:37
Retro198909could you help me if I give you my model number21:37
bgjslmy friend the point is that version needs some improvement21:37
kaddimarcor1820: go to a ttyl and type startx into it, see if you get xserver started21:37
mrqismrxwhat is the best drivers for ATI cards (laptop) fglrx seems to scew up my video with horizontel lines.21:37
usr13usr13: Or any linux boot disk.21:37
usr13fogrider: Or any linux boot disk.21:37
bgjslubuntu 9.04 is more stable21:37
fogriderusr13: do a complete reinstall? really?21:37
marcor1820"server is already active for display 0"21:37
rustyshacklefordRetro198909: I could, but you and google would be easier (for me)21:37
usr13fogrider: No.21:37
kasansweatbash scripting question: I've got an  "exit" condition inside a nested loop (its an if-then loop inside a while-do loop) -- and even though the loop stops, the script keeps going. Why?21:38
usr13fogrider: Boot to Ubuntu Install CD21:38
marcor1820kaddi: "server is already active for display 0"21:38
Retro198909I have a Compaq Presario SR1903WM21:38
kaddimarcor1820: then try /etc/init.d/kdm restart21:39
fogriderusr13: and it wants to reinstall21:39
ryufandid anybody respond to my question re is it possible to use my laptop's ics as the WAN for my router?21:39
RichardWolfVIGreetings, I have a PC with both an integrated speaker and external 2.1 speakers, How do I mute the integrated speaker while being able to use the external ones?21:39
RichardWolfVII'm on Ubuntu Karmic.21:39
usr13fogrider: Use the Ubuntu Install CD to boot the computer, and cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /mnt/hdaX/etc/X11/xorg.conf  #Where /mnt/hdaX is the actual mount point for your installed Ubuntu system.21:40
SireOrionhello can someone help me to make a netinstall floppy?21:40
zenlunaticwhy21:40
SnoothyIs it possible to mount /md0 on /home and /media?21:40
zenlunaticdepends21:41
usr13fogrider:  Bring up a terminal and type:  "mount" (without quotes) # To see what is mounted / where.21:41
marcor1820kaddi, will not restart, not default dm21:41
jmyersI think that EVERYTHING has to be difficult with this machine.  I installed Virtual Box.  It's giving me garbage when I try and REGISTER!  I went to sun.com and logged in, but when I try and put the email/pass in the box for virtual box, it says invalid username/password.21:41
fogriderusr13: ok... so once i'm editing the file. what do i do?21:41
Retro198909rustyshackleford: I have a compaq persario SR1903WM21:41
dooglushow do I enable circular scrolling in karmic?21:41
usr13fogrider:  Bring up a terminal and type:  "mount" (without quotes) # To see what is mounted / where.21:41
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bgjslsireorion do not use more floppy21:42
dooglus!circular21:42
bgjslthat is old tech21:42
jmyersrustyshackleford: same guy from wigornot?21:42
bruenigdooglus: what is circular scrolling?21:42
dooglusbruenig: it's a synaptics touchpad mode21:42
bruenig!synaptics21:42
ubottuFor a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad21:42
rustyshacklefordRetro198909:  oh, in that case, i'm reasonably sure it'll work. i'm not worried21:42
doogluswhere you can scroll by moving your finger in circles, kinda like the ipod scrollwheel thing21:43
MASARUwotajmyers:and why did you even bother registering? it doesnt make your vbox better21:43
jmyersMASARUwota: because I can't get any farther in the process of opening it up without doing so.21:43
jmyersMASARUwota: OR, I can hit cancel and carry on. :/21:43
MASARUwotajmyers: hit cancel and carry on. seriously. why would you want to give your adress to a corporation like SUN without getting anything for it? i dont see a valid reason.21:44
darkscrypt_when i first run an apt-get install postfix, it gives me a config dialogue21:44
darkscrypt_how do i get that dialogue to come back up?21:44
jmyersMASARUwota: because I thought it was a required part of the installation package.21:45
marcor1820ehh, back to windows21:45
dooglusbruenig: thanks.  I think I tried that before, but I'll try again21:45
marcor1820xit21:45
BalSakhi guys. just getting into serial interface admin; installed minicom & GtkTerm, but all I'm getting is garbage from the ALIX board21:45
bruenigdooglus: have you used this feature before or are you just curious. Because to me it seems like a real hassle. Just saying21:46
dooglusbruenig: I used to use it all the time21:46
dooglusbruenig: but recently my xorg.conf vanished21:46
bruenigwhat about the two finger scrolling though?21:46
lixhhola amigos la sala de chat en español cual es21:46
bruenigor do you not have multi touch?21:46
Flare183!es | lixh21:46
ubottulixh: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.21:46
dooglusbruenig: I used to be able to enable it by editing xorg.conf, but that seems not to be the preferred way any more21:46
bruenigdooglus: oh yeah, all of that stuff got moved out of there and put into this evdev+hal stuff21:47
dooglusbruenig: what's two-finger scrolling?21:47
bruenigdooglus: put two fingers on the touchpad and move them both up or both down and it will scroll up or down21:47
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trayzzbruenig you mean multiple touch21:47
kaddimarcor1820: do you have both kde and gnome instlaled?21:47
dooglusbruenig: the thing is, my touchpad is only a coupld of inches tall21:47
dooglusand some webpages are miles high21:48
bruenigdooglus: right21:48
dooglusI want to be able to scroll continuously without constantly lifting my finger on and off the pad21:48
dooglusthat's what circular scrolling does for you21:48
bruenigdooglus: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Circular_scrolling21:48
bruenigdooglus: should be exact same for ubuntu21:48
dooglustry it - you'll like it :)21:48
kaddidooglus: use the page up/page down keys for scrolling maybe, that's how I do it21:48
woodyjlwI uploaded a file from another pc to my public folder on this pc. im runing 8.10 on this pc and I need to take ownership of the file because it has it locked. any help? thanks21:48
bruenigdooglus: the second one, the hotplugging one21:49
doogluskaddi: I like the analogue nature of circular scrolling - I can control the speed easily21:49
ctmjrdarkscrypt_: you might try sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix21:49
dooglusbruenig: any idea how to set other xorg options?  I want to enable BackingStore, for instance21:49
dooglusbruenig: I used to use xorg.conf for that too21:49
frostburnhow does one download packages if ping is blocked externally?21:50
Banjo348Hey, I reformatted my windows partition the other day and it has got rid of Grub boot loader. My Linux partition is fine because I could access the files using the live disc, just wondering how do I install Grub again so I can access both OS's ? I had a google and found this http://pastesite.com/12233 is that the correct way ?21:50
Banjo348or is there an easier way like clicking a button xD21:50
bruenigdooglus: that should still be an xorg thing21:50
bruenigdooglus: Option "BackingStore" "True" under Device section21:51
dooglusbruenig: it is an xorg option, yes.  but I don't have an xorg.conf21:51
woodyjlwI uploaded a file from another pc to my public folder on this pc. im runing 8.10 on this pc and I need to take ownership of the file because it has it locked. any help? thanks21:51
dooglusbruenig: and don't know how to make one21:51
bruenigdooglus: ooooo21:51
dooglusbruenig: xxxxxx21:51
DarsVaedabanjo google for "recover grub" should bring up enough ways to do it ;)21:51
bruenigI didn't realize you did not have one at all!21:51
ardchoille!google21:51
ubottuWhile Google is useful for helpers, many newer users don't have the google-fu yet. Please don't tell people to "google it" when they ask a question.21:51
dooglusbruenig: I installed karmic on this machine - it didn't make me an xorg.conf at all21:51
Banjo348I found ways DarsVaeda like I posted the link :P Just wanted to know if that is the correct way21:52
KongfuToufuhello everybody, how can i know which device is used by which program exactly?21:52
mrqismrxi just downloaded a ati driver from the ati site, the file has a .run extension. but how do I install this?21:52
woodyjlwlol what do you mean by google - fu ?21:53
bruenigdooglus: well try gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and put http://pastebin.org/65760 in it, save and quit, then restart X21:53
doogluswoodyjlw: like kung-fu, but for searching21:53
DarsVaedacan't tell what is the "correct" way just googled and followed this this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows21:53
Flare183mrqismrx: open a terminal and type in ./<insert file name here>21:53
dooglusbruenig: thanks21:53
ardchoillebruenig: wouldn't "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg" generate a new xorg.conf ?21:54
Retro198909i was wondering if I should build a new pc21:54
mrqismrxFlare183, ok cool gonna test it21:54
bruenigardchoille: shrug21:54
woodyjlwoh ok lol , I figured out with google you have to know how to word your questions to find the right answers sometimes  and it takes a lot of rewording the questions to find it21:54
natewiebe13is there a way to stop f-spot from opening when i instert a cd with images on it?21:54
bruenigardchoille: this new fangled running without an xorg.conf thing is new to me anyhow. I still have one, but I also use hotplugging.21:54
Flare183natewiebe13: Yes,21:55
ardchoillebruenig: new to me too, I still have a bit to learn21:55
natewiebe13Flare183: and i could to that by?21:55
DarsVaedawoodyjlw...do you say you googled "google"? O_O21:55
mrqismrxFlare183, that didn't work.21:55
woodyjlwlol I mean google :)21:55
Flare183natewiebe13: Open up your home folder, goto the edit menu, preferences, click the media tab21:55
Flare183mrqismrx: You have to use cd to change to the folder in which the file is in.21:56
Retro198909Im running a amd 2.4ghz processor with 2gb ddr400 ram with a geforce 5500fx graphics card. Should I upgrade ?21:56
natewiebe13Flare183: awesome.. i knew i saw that option somewhere, i just forgot21:56
natewiebe13thanks21:56
Flare183natewiebe13: np21:56
Flare183Retro198909: Sounds Good, go for it.21:57
natewiebe13how about when i eject a cd, it still remains on the desktop21:57
natewiebe13(ejecting doesn unmount for some reason)21:57
woodyjlwwhat is the terminal command to take ownership of a file21:57
liamo1could someone please check the size of /usr/lib/libpthread.so for me please? I'm using ubuntu 9.1021:57
Flare183natewiebe13: you have to right click and tell it to eject sometimes, its a bug21:57
jmyersok, WinXP is installing on the virtual machine.21:58
rustyshacklefordRetro198909: i'm running a 900mhz processor machine from '99. it has 9.10 on it and runs surprisingly well. that said i don't open more than 3 tabs at once, and don't use a resource intensive text editor like emacs21:58
DarsVaeda@liamo1: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 218 2009-10-07 11:09 /usr/lib/libpthread.so21:58
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skorasaurus2!temperature21:58
skorasaurus2!temps21:58
Flare183...21:58
liamo1Thanks DarsVaeda. If I use nm on that it says it does not recognise the file format?21:59
kaddimaybe !sensors ?21:59
Flare183liamo1: Its 120K21:59
silverwoodyjlw: chown owner:group21:59
Flare183kaddi: That's what I was thinking too22:00
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linux0g   wow, alot of netsplits22:00
CounterfeitGodif I'm ssh'd into my box as root, can I view other users processes? if I can, how?22:00
Flare183CounterfeitGod: ps -ea22:00
CounterfeitGodthanks :)22:00
Retro198909rustyshackleford: would dual core be much better or not?22:00
Flare183CounterfeitGod: np22:00
liamo1Everything is working fine on my system but mine is 216 bytes???? Flare18322:01
Flare183liamo1: I don't know what to tell you :S22:01
rustyshacklefordRetro198909: more is better, but i'm not a hardware guy - i think you want #computer  -- might be on efnet22:01
vishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1290333&page=5 anyone have any experience with the website referenced in this thread?22:02
CounterfeitGodRetro198909, Yes, as a general rule dual core is better.. most people don't need use more than a few ghz anyway. I have a 1.6 ghz dualcore and it works better for me than a 3.0 ghz single core22:03
twigood day22:03
FuzzyKittensokay, I need to remove the stupid warning that tells me to "hit enter" when I'm shutting down my server... seeing as it doesn't have a keyboard attatched to it22:04
Flare183!hi | twi22:04
ubottutwi: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!22:04
edynis there any wifi noise/level graph plotter for ubuntu?22:04
SachoFuzzyKittens: how do you tell it to shutdown?22:04
occyFor some reason... I have "Searching for available drivers..." stuck on my screen after I went to: System > Administration > Hardware Drivers22:04
FuzzyKittensSacho: shutdown now22:04
Retro198909CounterfeitGod: I wonder if I should just build another pc22:04
epinkyedyn: gnuplot22:04
Flare183FuzzyKittens: sudo shutdown -P now22:04
epinkyedyn: sry, er22:04
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FuzzyKittensFlare183: I'm running it as rewt22:05
Flare183o.O rewt?22:05
Sachoroot22:05
Retro198909my motherboard is a socket 93922:05
Flare183oh ok22:05
CounterfeitGodRetro198909, I don't know... I guess it depends on your situation. Since this doesn't pertain to ubuntu or linux do you think we should take this to PM?22:05
FuzzyKittensFlare183: yes, root22:05
edynepinky: np =]22:05
jmyersEVERY time I try and install Flash for my browers, I get a dialogue box that says 'Could not find package 'adobe-flashplugin'.  When I try running sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin from a terminal, I get the same error.  What am I screwing up here?22:05
edynepinky: im trying wifistatd but i think it is not well developed =P22:05
Flare183Sacho, FuzzyKittens: Then just do it like this: shutdown -P now && exit22:05
Flare183or well that's how I do it via ssh22:06
FuzzyKittensah22:06
FuzzyKittensI shall run a shell script for it then22:06
Hubi25siema22:06
FuzzyKittens /bin/stfu22:06
epinkyedyn: for what would you want that? site survey?22:06
Flare183Hubi25: ?22:06
silverDoes anyone know how to restore a programm if the trayicon in the notification area has disappeared?22:06
Guest8874when using baobab, why does it indicate usage and size (and content) of the folders? does linux somehow reserve space for folders?22:07
Flare183silver: Kill it and start it again22:07
Hubi25siema = hi in polish language22:07
FuzzyKittenssilver: alt-tab?22:07
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quizme_hi22:07
woodyjlwI need help with chown. I have cd to the folder where the file is with terminal and I am not root so I think I will need sudo first before I take ownership of file right?22:07
Hubi25;)22:07
quizme_how do you add a program to automatically start after you login in karmic koala?22:08
FuzzyKittenswoodyjlw: or be the owner22:08
Flare183quizme_: Add it to the Startup Applications window22:08
newfielanderhi, I had a dual boot (winxp-ubuntu)  I needed more space so i formated the ubuntu drive in winxp.  so when i boot, i now get grub error 17.  i can't find my winxp disc to do the repair, and i don't want to install ubuntu again (just yet) because i never backed up those files yet :(    Is there a way to fix the mbr from ubuntu (i'm booting 9.04 livecd) so that I can boot back into winxp?22:09
Flare183quizme_: System Menu, Preferences, Startup Applications.22:09
FirefisheHow can I restore my pulseaudio tray icon (padevchooser) in Karkmic (running kde 4.3.4 desktop)?22:09
woodyjlwit is a file I uploaded from windows 7 to public folder on 8.10 and has me locked out22:09
quizme_ok found it thank you22:09
silverFuzzyKittens: alt-tab is not possible because there exist no window for the program when it is minimized in tray22:09
FirefisheKarmic rather22:09
FuzzyKittensnewfielander: you need to either put a grub partition or use the super grub disk to fix the MBR22:09
FuzzyKittensand on that note22:10
newfielanderwhat if I have no method of burning cd's or dvd's :(22:10
jmyersOK VirtualBox gurus.  More drama.  I detest this AMD64 board.  when I'm installing from my WinXP cd, I get this error: File acpe.sys caused an unexpected error (as if errors are ever expected?) (3072) at line 5897 in d:\xpsp1\base\boot\setup\setup.c.  Please press any key to continue, and it reboots and starts all over.22:10
jmyersthat's file acpi, not acpe22:11
Guest8874who here is in charge of #ubuntu-nl?22:11
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newfielanderfuzzykittens: thanks for super grub disk nfo22:11
FloodBot4!netsplit22:13
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit22:13
woodyjlwcan someone who is knowledgeable with chown PM me? I need some help getting ownership of one of my files22:13
MK13is the method behind a wubi install (using file as virtual harddrive) applicable to only ubuntu or can it be used with other OS's too?22:13
_CommandeR_how do you change grub2 resolution ?22:14
vbruchemwill the net merge together again?22:14
epinkyGuest83942: why?22:14
_CommandeR_how do you change grub2 resolution ?22:15
Hans_HenrikMK13: http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php22:15
tangentcollisionokay, so my SSH is still running really incredibly slow22:16
MK13Hans_Henrik, i am not asking specifially about wubi, but the method behind it22:17
SnoothyIs karmic having a lot of trouble handling raid array?22:18
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epinky!pm | woodyjlw22:19
ubottuwoodyjlw: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.22:19
vbruchemmy question is answered, not by you but ok22:19
cyphaseI've got a weird problem.. I just got a ViewSonic VA1916w that's capable of 1440x900. It was working at 1440x900 at first, but now it's not. If I plug in my old non-widescreen monitor, I can choose 1440x900, then plug in the viewsonic, and it works. However, next time i logout or reboot, it's back to not allowing 1440x900. Any ideas?22:20
SireOrioncan i run a netinstall from a floppy22:21
bgjsltell me cyphase22:22
buttons840so i have a text file and the little preview icon shows the text which is in the file, but when i attempt to open it it say the character encoding is not supported?22:23
bgjslcyphase do recovery mode22:23
epinkySireOrion: you can use PXE, if your netcard is PXE capable22:23
woodyjlwepinky, I did not think about the pm being rude so I will take that into consideration from now on and I have been trying to get some help with chown so I can take ownership of a file but I think most of the users in here may be busy and cant get to me at the moment so I will keep trying... thanks :)22:24
cyphasebgjsl: then what?22:24
bgjslwith that should be ok22:24
anzohello all it seems an update borked my system and now its trying to boot into sdb1 instead of sda1. I have attempted a grub reload but i am still gettin a busy box error. please help22:24
Sachowoodyjlw: sudo chown?22:24
SireOrioncan i run a netinstall from a floppy22:25
woodyjlwSacho,  yes22:25
bgjslthe problem is graphic card22:25
cyphasebgjsl: what about it? it was working before22:25
Sachobut what's the problem?22:25
epaphusAre all the skype versions for linux betas??22:26
rustyshacklefordcan I resize an ext3 partition while booted into it?22:26
woodyjlwSacho,  I uploaded a file to my public folder on 8.10 from a windows 7 pc and the file is locked and says no owner and I cant get access from properties22:26
boscopin transmission there is an option to connect to tracker via a proxy. why only to the tracker?22:26
cyphasebots are managing bots? who's brilliant idea was that? :)22:26
visdoes anyone run ubuntu on a dell mini 10v?22:26
zvacetrustyshackleford : no partition must be unmounted if you want to resize it22:27
bgjslyeah but the ponit is that you can not fix it widescreen in certain  graphic card correctely22:27
viscyphase: Bots are managing bots who are managing people.. even worse22:27
woodyjlwSacho,  maybe I should pull the files from windows instead of upload from windows?22:27
cyphasevis: ah yes.. what has the world come to?22:27
bgjslvis do it by usb22:28
visbgjsl: It's coming pre-installed :)22:28
JumboJellyfishquestion: I just installed kubuntu (8.04) on a shuttle PC... I get to the log in screen, but when I enter my username/password and try to login, the monitor goes black (says no signal) and then returns to the login screen!22:28
vis8.04 I think, with Dell repos etc22:28
Sachowoodyjlw: what happens if you chown them to your user?22:28
bgjslaahh ok ..understand22:28
zvacetrustyshackleford : you can use your ubuntu live CD for that or gparted live Cd witch you can download from http://gparted.sourceforge.net/22:29
epinkywoodyjlw: what are you using to upload your file?22:29
bgjslwhat is the problem do you have now??22:29
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visI have to wait to get it! lol22:29
rustyshacklefordzvacet: thanks22:29
hipitihopthe vlc build 1.0.2 in Karmic does not built with the upnp_intel module, is this something I can install as a plugin or what do I do ?22:29
woodyjlwSacho,  ahh... that is what I need help with. I do not know how to do the chown in my terminal , still new to linux22:29
bgjslok22:29
zvacetrustyshackleford . np22:29
visbgjsl: It's being delivered next week, and when I get it I'm hopinh to fix a little problem thats been bugging me for a while with ubuntu22:29
vishttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1290333&page=522:30
bastid_raZorwoodyjlw: for almost all command line commands there is a man page. type man chown22:30
woodyjlwepinky,  im uploading across a network from windows 7 to a public folder on ubuntu22:30
mMezquitalewhat distribution to surf the net securely would someone recommend?22:30
zvacet!permissions | woodyjlw22:30
visbasically the extreme dodginess of divx streaming22:30
ubottuwoodyjlw: An explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions22:30
anzohello guys, i am trying to reinstall grub again, and now i am getting this error in terminal (am on live cd) sudo: fdisk-l: command not found22:30
anzois that normal?22:31
visit's "sudo fdisk -l" with a space22:31
mMezquitaleanzo, youre typing it wrong22:31
ae86-drifteranzo fdisk-1 is not a command22:31
occyI don't see the ability to do WEP 128 on the wireless connection thingy in Ubuntu22:31
vislower case L22:31
viswow, that might be the first time I've actually managed to help someone with linux22:32
vislol22:32
occyall I see is tunnel , tunneled tls , protected22:32
bgjslanzo no it is not22:32
bgjslrecovery mode22:32
karma_policei have a dumb question.. how do you tell if you are running 32 or 64 bit?22:32
epinkywoodyjlw: where is your upload(shared directory) located?22:32
anzoi am not typing it with a 1 i am using an L22:32
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Priceykarma_police: uname -a probably has it in there22:32
zvacetkarma_police : type in terminal uname -a22:32
JumboJellyfishquestion: I just installed kubuntu (8.04) on a shuttle PC... I get to the log in screen, but when I enter my username/password and try to login, the monitor goes black (says no signal) and then returns to the login screen!22:32
Priceykarma_police: i686 is 32bit22:33
epinkywoodyjlw: /home/ ...?22:33
chasedawg1how do you set up emerald?22:33
woodyjlwin the home folder there is one called public and I shared it so I could send files from windows pc22:33
karma_policex86_6422:33
visanzo: copy and paste into terminal "sudo fdisk -l" without quotes22:33
coolmananyway to automate installation of addons in firefox ????????????????+22:33
bastid_raZor!emerald | chasedawg122:33
ubottuchasedawg1: emerald is an obsolete window decorator for compiz. It's unsupported and unmaintained, making issues with it very hard to diagnose and fix. There are no known, supported alternatives.22:33
zvacetkarma_police : 64 bit22:33
karma_policecool.. i didn't know if there was an app like system monitor that showed it22:33
visanzo: that should list your hard drives22:34
epinkywoodyjlw: /home/public ?22:34
chasedawg1ubottu: so should i just not worry about it?22:34
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:34
vis!ubottu22:34
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots22:34
woodyjlwepinky, /home/jeremy/Public22:34
mMezquitaleJumboJellyfish, try logging in using a console, "ctrl-alt-f1" will send you to a console, "ctr-alt-f7" brings you to GUI mode22:34
visdoes anyone use ninjavideo.net?22:34
mataksim using karmic koala.  how to remove or edit grub2 to remove old kernels on my boot list..22:34
epinkywoodyjlw: your user is jeremy, right?22:35
SireOrioncan i run a netinstall from a floppy22:35
JumboJellyfishmMezquitale, tried22:35
eliot_in ubuntu 9.10 when i search for a program in the software center it shows up but it wont let me install it22:35
JumboJellyfishalso reconf'd xorg22:35
woodyjlwepinky,  yes22:35
viseliot_: what error messages?22:35
zvacet!grub2 | mataks22:35
ubottumataks: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager in Karmic. For more information and troubleshooting on GRUB2 please refer to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub222:35
gunnari have installed vnc4server...but i cant connect to it(local area network)..22:35
eliot_i dont get an error message there just isnt an install button22:35
gunnarhow do i check if it works?22:35
epaphusHello, how can I install Thunderbird 3 in ubuntu?22:36
visyou may already have it22:36
mMezquitalemataks, there's a utility in karmic for you to do that, try computer janitor22:36
ae86-driftereliot_ use synaptic package manager22:36
JumboJellyfishmMezquitale, also uninstalled/reinstalled kde4/kdm/gdm, restarted them etc... nothing works :(22:36
epinkywoodyjlw: open a terminal an type: sudo chown -R jeremy /home/jeremy/Public22:36
Firefisheeliot_: have you considered using apt-get on the command line?22:36
eliot_o ya forgot about that thanks22:37
eliot_eliot@eliot-desktop:~$ sudo aptitude install lives22:37
eliot_[sudo] password for eliot:22:37
eliot_E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)22:37
eliot_E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?22:37
eliot_Reading package lists... Done22:37
FloodBot2eliot_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.22:37
eliot_Building dependency tree22:37
mMezquitaleJumboJellyfish, dont know much about KDE, I only use gnome but if you cant even get a console then something is very broken, you might want to try #kubuntu22:37
Firefisheeliot_: otherwise, I use synaptic for both kde and gnome22:38
rwweliot_: You can only have one package manager open at a time. Close Software Center or Synaptic before using aptitude.22:38
JumboJellyfishmMezquitale, i get consoles22:38
kyanardaghow can i view a core dump file in ubuntu?22:38
bastid_raZoreliot_: you have synaptic or another instance of apt-get running? aptitude?22:38
DopeGhotieliot_: or the Software Center?22:38
eliot_yay it works thanks22:38
rwweliot_: also, there is an install button in Software Center. Click the package in the list of packages, click the arrow button on the right, click Install.22:38
Yancho_hi what is the best option to backup a 160hdd (only around 10gb max used) into a 40hdd please? i need backups every night if possible? rsync ?22:39
mMezquitaleJumboJellyfish, if the console works then you might want to update the system see if that fixes it or try changing video drivers22:40
woodyjlwepinky,  thank you very much that worked and the lock is now gone. if I pull files from windows instead of upload from windows do you think the permissions will be different?22:40
JumboJellyfishtrie22:40
JumboJellyfishdf22:40
epinkywoodyjlw: I suggest you to use WinSCP, and Sshd on Ubuntu, that way never fails22:42
mrnicelupeWinSCP \o/22:42
woodyjlwepinky, where do I find winscp and sshd?22:43
centHOGG!winscp22:43
ubottuSCP is a secure way of copying files across networks using !SSH. Usage: scp filename user@host:filename - WinSCP is a client for Windows, available at http://winscp.net/22:43
Yancho_woodyjlw,  sshd = openssl .. and winscp - wincscp.net22:43
epaphusHello, how can I install Thunderbird 3 in ubuntu?22:43
TidersWhat Linux modules do I need to download to get my lm-sensors updated to support newest hardware22:44
tylermsg nickserv ghost Vonnick hm345ke90irgt6i6m6p22:44
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woodyjlwYancho_,  ok thanks22:44
Vonnickmsg nickserv identify hm345ke90irgt6i6m6p22:44
viswhat should I use as my video output on gnome-mplayer? and what do I put under "mplayer executable"?22:44
epinkywoodyjlw: in Ubuntu install openssh-server via Synaptic22:44
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Guest50986msg nickserv ghost Vonnick hm345ke90irgt6i6m6p22:45
syn-ackWTF22:45
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* syn-ack hands dude a /22:45
vislol22:45
mcherifi:D22:45
DopeGhotiGuest50986: time to change your password.22:45
epinkyouch!22:45
visthat is one serious password22:46
mrnicelupeSlightly random password, isn't it? o.o22:46
visI wouldn't want to type that out every time22:46
* vis hands a mothers maiden name22:46
DopeGhoticat /dev/urandom | head | m4d > ~/my.password ;)22:46
DopeGhotis/m5d/md5/22:46
DopeGhotibah, you get what I'm trying to say :p22:47
DopeGhoti</derail>22:47
syn-ackheh22:47
visnearly22:47
visthat sounds interesting tho.. could you explain that?22:47
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VonnickWell, that was lame22:47
VonnickSlash key didn't work22:48
mrnicelupeVonnick, should learn to identify in the server window, not a channel (:22:49
syn-ackVonnick: ouch,22:49
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syn-ackexactly22:49
DopeGhotivis: cat /dev/urandom | head | md5sum | awk '{print $1}'   ← Generates a relatively secure password instantly22:49
syn-ackthat was kinda funny though22:49
BallsOfSteelso nobody | awk '{print $2}'` do slave la22:49
BallsOfSteelof funny22:49
Vonnickvis: Random letters and numbers + memory = Learn to type it damn fast22:49
BallsOfSteelmaybe somebody has vandalized that infobot (on a lot of numbers22:49
LITesterBold style22:50
BallsOfSteelhe lived in braunau am trying to reinstall msysgit using unix style22:50
BallsOfSteelnovaaesa22:50
BallsOfSteelghostlines22:51
LimCorehello, does Ubuntu include FTP client? That works? And does not crash always on use like gftp22:53
DopeGhotiLimCore: yes: 'ftp'. If it's not pre-installed, apt-get install ftp22:53
LimCoreah right, I ment a GUI one22:53
BallsOfSteelnatewiebe13: you to gui mode22:53
DopeGhotiLimCore: if you're looking for a GUI client, I reccoment FileZilla22:53
BallsOfSteellimcore: yes: 'ftp'22:53
epinkyLimCore: Filezilla22:53
VonnickFileZilla = SupremeWin22:54
epaphusHello, how can I install Thunderbird 3 in ubuntu?22:54
coz_LimCore,   or gft22:54
VonnickAdd the daily-mozilla ppa22:54
BallsOfSteel`akick add signals just don't work22:54
LjLthere is also 'foff'22:54
VonnickAnd do apt-get install thunderbird-3.022:54
VonnickThen disable the ppa in software sources so Firefox doesn't get upgraded to a beta22:55
khelvanHi, I had a laptop running Jaunty without issues, and I've upgraded it to Karmic. Now I have occasional wireless issues, where the wireless light will flash blue/amber/blue/amber constantly, and can no longer connect, and then when I try to reboot I get an error that forces me to cut off power as it can't shut down properly. Any ideas?22:55
dooglusbruenig: that pastebin thing you asked me to put in xorg.conf stopped me from being able to boot my laptop22:56
dooglusbruenig: oddly even the virtual terminals are corrupted, so I can't remove it22:56
Vonnickboot from the live cd and delete the xorg.conf22:57
BallsOfSteelwhen i need to put in xorg.conf22:57
bastid_raZordooglus: you have a liveCD? you can remove it that way.22:57
BallsOfSteelthere no way of simulating having a lot of their system and and occasional java way.22:57
buttons840should there be a blank new line at the end of files?   .py files?22:57
BallsOfSteeldasei22:57
dooglusbastid_raZor: I booted into recovery mode or some such to remove it22:57
BallsOfSteeli'm trying to reinstall grub partition while booted into goth goods22:57
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bastid_raZordooglus: you're on 9.10? if so, what key did you hit during grub to get a recovery shell?22:58
BallsOfSteeldooglus: you have a = -2, so what's my best friend, the place where php terminates the connection22:58
epaphusHello, how can I install Thunderbird 3 in ubuntu?22:59
bastid_raZorepaphus: download the .deb from the thunderbird site and install with dpkg or double click it.22:59
LjLepaphus: vonnik replied to your question already22:59
justine777wdownloaded live cd to usb but computer wont read usb help?23:00
BallsOfSteelanyone help?23:00
bastid_raZorepaphus: and yes, vonnick's idea is better.23:00
BallsOfSteela core is better.23:00
epaphushmm23:00
ofnhello. i'm trying to follow a guide called "howto-via-chrome9-igp-on-ubuntu-linux", but don't know what to do when i'm supposed to add <Driver "openchrome"> in xorg.conf. i've read it's gone in 9.10. anyone know how to do this? i probably can't paste the link to the guide without getting kicked23:00
jribofn: you should probably say why you want to follow the guide at all as there may be a better way to accomplish it.  And why would you get kicked for pasting a link/23:01
justine777wwrite to disc?23:01
Peter-netbookHey folks.23:01
DasEijustine777w: you want a bootable thumbdrive or install from usb ?23:02
BallsOfSteelrouslan: you have oss4 supports usb sound cards file does list your hard drives are slower when being written in python 6 by samsung?23:02
BallsOfSteelxjcook23:02
jribBallsOfSteel: are you a bot?23:02
BallsOfSteelis a bot?23:02
justine777wdasEi: live cd to run fsck23:03
epinkyepaphus: http://pastebin.com/m7f18d22923:03
visis it easy to set ubuntu 8.04 to boot into a console, rather than gdm?23:03
justine777wdasEi: I am writing it to disc right now. hopefully it works.23:03
ofnjrib, i want to install drivers for my via chipset on my amilo v2035. this is the guide: http://www.hombrepac.com.ar/software-libre/howto-via-chrome9-igp-on-ubuntu-linux/23:04
DasEijustine777w: and have got a running ubuntu, use unetbootin or usbcreator then23:04
dre360hey all23:04
Peter-netbookQuestion for the knoweldgeable folks; I'm trying to boot into a live session from a freshly made 9.10 UNR bootable off a Kingston 2GB stick just bought today, made with Unetbootin.  It gets through the first parts but then gets to the loading screen ( with spining dial ) and stays there indefinately.  this is on HP Mini 1115NR.  Haven't found anything yet on the forums.23:04
justine777wDasEi: do you think that writing it from the usb to cd disc is okay?23:04
Peter-netbookAnyone have an idea of cause /23:04
dre360I got a aspire 5517 an no lan drivers working any help23:05
dre360wlan0 working23:05
vis!please23:05
ubottuAvoid your questions being followed by a trail of "Please, help me", "Can nobody help me?", "I really need this!", and so on. This just contributes to making the channel unreadable. If you are not answered, ask again later; but see also !repeat and !attitude23:05
jrib!info xserver-xorg-video-openchrome | ofn23:05
ubottuofn: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome (source: xserver-xorg-video-openchrome): X.Org X server -- VIA display driver. In component main, is optional. Version 1:0.2.903+svn758-0ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 192 kB, installed size 584 kB (Only available for i386 amd64 hurd-i386 kfreebsd-i386 kfreebsd-amd64 lpia)23:05
jribofn: the drivers are in the repositories23:05
vis!ubottu | vis23:05
DasEijustine777w: if you just copied the *.iso,  can burn it from there, also :23:05
ubottuvis, please see my private message23:05
KaffeeJunky123Hey I've got problems with copying data from an ntfs partition to an ext4 partition with Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope, it's copying only 4mb/s, I've got the ntfs-3g package installed.23:05
DasEi!md5sum |  justine777w23:06
ubottujustine777w: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows23:06
epaphusepinky, Vonnick, bastid_raZor ...  I did add the ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ as per: http://pastebin.com/m7f18d229 .. when I do apt-get install thunderbird-3.0 thunderbird-3.0-gnome-support  it installs Shredder 3 which is not thunderbird 323:06
SnausagesPeter-netbook: have you tried booting any other images from that stick?  just to isolate whether it's the software, the preparation or the media?23:06
justine777wDasEi: i do not understand, but the cd is done so i am going to try that23:06
dre360any help23:06
dre360aspire 5517 lan drivers23:06
justine777wDasEi: if i need any more help, i will come back23:06
DasEijustine777w: k, use the cd option to check media least23:06
Peter-netbookI hadn't yet.. good thought.. hrmph.. dont have any other images handy.. i'll go grab DSL23:06
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dre360or any way to get it to work23:07
epinkyepaphus: huh? could you explain that to me better? :)23:07
Snausagesdre360: I don't know that model.  my aspire just worked automagically23:07
mMezquitalePeter-netbook, try using 9.0423:07
dre360Snausges do I am updating23:07
bgjslguys chrome came to conquer  linux23:07
gecko2_I have a problem with trying to get the buttons on my Aiptek Slim tablet to work. i have found supports for Jaunty Jackalope (9.04 i believe) but not for Karmic Koala.23:07
epaphusepinky, i did *exactly* as per http://pastebin.com/m7f18d22923:08
ofnjrib, thanks alot, but do i need to change "Vesa" with "openchrome" as it says in the tutorial?23:08
dre360Snausages thanks tho23:08
jribofn: yes23:08
epinkyepaphus: not that part, I meant Shredder part23:09
dre360O I am using bt4 tho23:09
dre360ubuntu build23:09
dre360:)23:09
Snausageswhat's bt4?23:09
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ofnjrib, ok, where?23:09
epaphusepinky, following exactly those instructions.. the new version of Shredder is installed . not thunderbird323:09
Vonnickepaphus Shredder 3 is the codename for Thunderbird 323:09
jribofn: same place, xorg.conf23:09
dre360Snausges it's a pentesting os23:09
dre360google it23:09
dre360backtrack 423:10
mr_engineerhi23:10
VonnickLike naoroko, or whatever for Firefox23:10
mr_engineerGrub is not showing me all the entries in menu.lst23:10
mr_engineerhelp?23:10
ofnjrib, xorg.conf is not in /etc/X11/ - do i need to create xorg.conf manually and add one line saying "Driver "openchrome""?23:11
jribofn: yes23:11
epaphusVonnick, can you please elaborate that a little better?23:11
jribofn: you need to create a valid xorg.conf not just that line23:11
Cyclist2Hello, there! I don't know how to have my external hard drives automaticaly mounted [in fact, I cannot access them at all...!] as I switch to another user account on my Jaunty 9.04; only the hard drive is mounted and to everything I tried so far [from the main account] I get a 'operation not permitted']23:11
hozzahello23:12
ofnjrib, okay, but that's just too advanced for me...23:12
DasEimr_engineer: in the file itself it's commented, the option howmany lets you set the count of entries23:12
jribofn: k23:12
Vonnickepaphus, Until a Mozilla product is in the official Ubuntu repos, it's considered a beta. All programs in the mozilla-daily are unofficial and are beta releases23:12
VonnickSo they are code named23:12
epinkyepaphus: "Thunderbird 3 Shredder", yes that's the complete name23:12
Cyclist2sorry: only the *internal* hard drive is mounted23:12
javatexanis there a handy dandy way to get what major packages I have installed and who asked that they are installed?23:13
visCyclist2: I have a good app for that actually.. 1 sec23:13
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visIt should do it automatically, have you tried unplugging and repluggins?23:13
vis*replugging23:13
FloodBot2!netsplit23:14
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit23:14
DasEijavatexan: dpkg - l  lists your packages, though not the installers user23:14
mr_engineerDasEi, look, I think grub is not reading my menu.lst correctly. Because howmany is commented and because it has no vista entries, however grub does display an entry for booting into vista23:14
syn-ackjavatexan: well, there's only one user who can install any apps and do what DasEi just said23:14
Cyclist2vis, no I did not do that; I simply switch back to the main account and try to fix things from there...23:14
ofnjrib, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/create-a-xorgconf-file.html <- coolio?23:15
mr_engineerDasEi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/343067/23:15
DasEisyn-ack: well, any user in sudoers can23:15
javatexanDasEi: ah okay...I have to rebuild this box, so I was trying to get a list of the stuff I need to add to new install.  Just the major stuff, I know several of the packages I added added like 100 others as dependences, but I just need the high level ones....23:15
DasEi!clone | javatexan23:15
ubottujavatexan: To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » - See also !automate23:15
jribofn: don't know, I just write mine from scratch23:15
Danielleevery time i try to at a music downloader, it tells me i cant run it while the update manager is running, but i dont know how to close the update manager and if i try to let it do updates it says i have to manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' and i dont know what to do i need help!23:16
gecko2_Will the back ways to get a Aiptek slim tablet working on Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope also work on Ubuntu 9.1 Karmic Koala?23:16
syn-ackDasEi: right but its still going to show up as root unless he set sudo up to log which user called sudo which, iirc ubuntu does not do by default23:16
flo`hi. i ran a do-release-upgrade on intrepid but in the middle the mount on the apt archive dir was lost (autofs!) and it dismissed several pkg , bin-utils, gcc ...23:16
ofnjrib, thanks23:16
flo`can i just repeat ? seems as it's target is still jaunty23:16
ActionParsnipDanielle: run: sudo dpkg --configure -a23:16
mr_engineerWhere does grub2 takes its menu entries? I was just told that grub 2 does not use menu.lst file23:16
Om3Ddragondoes anyone here use google chrome well they have the deb package now and this version is just fast as firefox23:16
Daniellehow do i do that though?23:17
DasEisynh-ack: y23:17
ActionParsnipDanielle: in a terminal23:17
ActionParsnip!terminal | Danielle23:17
ubottuDanielle: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE).  Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal23:17
Cyclist2vis, you see? I have programs running on the main user account that would be affected if I were to unplug the external hard drives...; or were you suggesting I would only have to do it that initial time and then never again...?23:17
mataksim using karmic koala.  how to remove or edit grub2 to remove old kernels on my boot list.. . newbie here23:17
DasEimr_engineer: you got a chainload to grub2, there will be the vista23:18
mMezquitalemr_engineer, 40_custom23:18
Daniellei dont know how to do any of that23:18
javatexanah sweet!!! I knew I liked ubuntu for something ;)23:18
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bastid_raZor   mataks uninstall the kernel instead of manually removing them from grub.23:18
mr_engineerhating this netsplit things23:18
vicioushi, how do i set permissions on ntfs drives? i have ntfs-3g and ntfs-config installed23:18
mr_engineermMezquitale, what was that?23:18
justine777wDasEi: can i pm you?23:18
ActionParsnipmataks: if you use http://pastebin.com    to give the output of: uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image23:18
mMezquitalemr_engineer, what OS youre trying to configure for grub???23:18
visCyclist2: sorry, I can't find the name of the software I used to configure my hard drives. It's like a graphical editor for fstab, if anyone else knows it23:19
DasEimataks: /etc/default/grub23:19
will__bonsoir tout le monde... y aurait il un francais sympa qui pourrait venir en aide à un linuxien débutant qui regrette déja son passage à ubuntu ???23:19
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mr_engineermMezquitale, ubuntu, but i want to know why the new kernel i installed is not listed even after i did update-grub23:19
ActionParsnipDanielle: look at the top of the screen, see tha pplications menu? click it, then hover your mouse over accessories, then  click terminal23:19
DasEijustine777w: why ? more eyey, more advice23:19
mMezquitaleDasEi, it's 40_custom23:19
ActionParsnipDanielle: you will need to put some effort in23:19
Danielleok, then what23:19
DasEieyes*, justine777w23:19
justine777wDasEi: or u can help me here.23:19
Daniellei am putting effort i just have no idea how anything works23:20
ActionParsnipDanielle: then type: sudo dpkg --configure -a23:20
visDanielle: don't be put off or scared. this will be a lot easier once everything is set up and you're used to it - it won't take too long!23:20
ActionParsnipDanielle: the factoid that ubottu told you as basically what I told you but with not every tiny little detail23:20
ActionParsnipDanielle: read it again:23:20
mMezquitalemr_engineer, is the new kernel using its own "/boot" partition?  If not grub could add by running grub-probe then grub-update23:20
ActionParsnip!terminal | Danielle23:21
Daniellei did, it said command not founf23:21
vicioushow do i enable permissions on ntfs drives? Thanks in advance23:21
mr_engineeris there a way to hide these in xchat? seriously its annoying23:21
mataksActionParsnip, here http://pastebin.com/d2ca30b2823:21
LimCorewoot23:21
justine777wDasEi: I was told to DL a live cd and then go to use ubuntu without making changes to computer and typing in fsck code and then rebooting and my "no space left on disc problem" would be solved and i could update again, but it did not work. Suggestions?23:21
LimCorein 30 minutes of using Ubuntu I found 2 more crash-bugs23:21
mr_engineermMezquitale, no.. everything its on the same partition... I just installed a new kernel23:21
SirCharlesI've got a strange question, how can I reboot the USB live cd without loosing stuff I installed since the livecd clears all changes when I shut down23:21
noelitoHi, I am trying to auto mount a win XP share using autofs but it is not working. I got it mount using mount.ctfs but autofs is not working for me. Can anybody help me with this?23:21
Cyclist2vis, I have no problem at all as the user on the main account; it is just that I assumed that as another user I should have access to those external hard drive [at least to *read* if not to *read and write*]; I tried to change groups, to change owner, etc.23:22
DasEimataks: /etc/grub.d/40_custom also lets you alter menu, as mezq.. said23:22
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DasEijustine777w: delete some files btw how big is your partition ?23:22
mr_engineermMezquitale, also grub-probe needs a path,should that be boot?23:22
mr_engineeri am very carefull with my system, yes23:23
mMezquitalemr_engineer, try running grub-probe then grub-update, if that doesn't work then create a manual entry in "/etc/grub.d/40_custom", the one thing to remember is that grub begins counting from 1, so instead of hd0, you will use hd123:23
justine777wDasEi: it says my partition is full but its not and i dont know which files to delete23:23
DasEijustine777w: are you in live now ?23:23
trismmMezquitale: grub2 counds hard drives from 0, but partitions from 123:23
mr_engineermMezquitale, but which path should I pass to grub-probe?23:23
justine777wno23:23
justine777wDasEi: no23:23
DasEijustine777w:boot to live, come here again, so we can examine23:24
justine777wDasEi: ok23:24
Peter-netbookSnaseges ; DSL ran fine off the same disk, so I re downloaded UNR from the website and will try it off a diff thumb drive ; it might just be a bad DL23:24
mr_engineermMezquitale, never mind, I read the --help and I think I got it.. Ill come back soon23:24
Cyclist2vis, I understand that those HDs belong to the main user but when I tried to change the permissions with <chmod> to allow group members and/or others to access them I encountered the same barrier: 'operation not permitted'23:24
ActionParsnipmataks: http://pastebin.com/m43c29b8523:24
studentzAfter I login my lap get freeze, Ubuntu Karmic Openchrome drive Help me pleeeeese :(23:25
SirCharlesDasEi: Do you think you might be able to answer my question, is there a way to reboot liveCD without loosing data that I added23:25
ActionParsnipDanielle: you can copy and paste to the terminal.23:25
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epaphusVonnick, i just downloaded it from http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/  and that copy doesnt say anything about Shredder 3...23:26
mMezquitalemr_engineer, like trism said, partitions are counted from 1, just keep that in mind if you want to add a manual entry in 40_custom, if grub is not picking it up with grub-probe and grub-update then creating a manual entry in 40_custom usually does the trick23:26
epaphusin fact that page.. (which is suppose to be the official) doesnt say anything about the Shredder 323:26
ActionParsnipDanielle: copy this command:     sudo dpkg --configure -a23:26
Danielleso it worked then it asked for a password and i typed in my administration password and it said command not found again23:26
DasEiSirCharles: you can, but need additional storage then, live usb would work, or you go :23:26
ActionParsnipDanielle: then right click in terminal and click paste23:26
DasEi!remaster23:27
ubottuInterested in remastering the Ubuntu !live CD? See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization or use tools such as http://uck.sourceforge.net/ or http://linux.dell.com/wiki/index.php/DRU_Disc_Remastering_Utility23:27
SirCharlesDasEi: Thanks23:27
mr_engineermMezquitale, nah it didn't work... update-grub did find my kernel though23:28
ActionParsnipDanielle: try this: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a23:28
mr_engineerit didn't modify the menu23:28
epaphusVonnick, the problem is that , that tar doesnt have any instructions to actually install it in the system.. i can only run the binary :(23:28
mr_engineerhm.. it updates the old, unused menu.lst now that i read terminal output carefully23:28
Daniellei think it would. should i be able to get my music thing now?23:28
Cyclist2vis, I have got to go now; I will be back tomorrow around this time [a little earlier is more likely]; thank you for you interest23:28
ActionParsnipmataks: you have a lot of surplus kernels taking up excess space, you will get about 120Mb per kernel in space. it will also tidy the grub menu23:29
ActionParsnipDanielle: you need to get your packages straight first before you can do anything at all23:30
Danielleoh. ok23:30
Daniellei dont know how to do that either23:30
ActionParsnipDanielle: now that has ran, run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade         do you get any errors23:30
FloodBot2!netsplit23:31
FloodBot3!netsplit23:31
studentzHelp Openchrome video drive23:31
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit23:31
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Elmaronhi23:32
Elmaronmy ubuntu server refuses to start23:32
SHumphreyhi I can't get tinyproxy to work over the intrawebz23:32
dassoukii've lost my file/edit menus on a lot of applications / 9.10/gnome23:32
Elmaronwhat's the best log file to check for details?23:32
DasEiElmaron: /var/log/syslog23:32
Danielleam i supposed to type that into the terminal23:32
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SHumphreyFireFox says tinyproxy is refusing connections23:32
TidersWhats the danger temp for an i7 920?23:32
mataksActionParsnip,  thanks, i tried to remove the old kernels in synaptic package manager. don't even know it's still in there.  :)23:32
DasEiTiders: #hardware23:32
syn-ackwow23:33
TidersDasEi, They are jerks there X_X23:33
syn-ack$250 for a 9.04 Server CD?23:33
ActionParsnipmataks: not used it, i always use apt-get23:33
syn-ackTiders: Well, they're the ones who would know23:33
ActionParsnipsyn-ack: can you link that please23:34
syn-ackActionParsnip: nm, I see what they did... thats for a pack of 20023:34
Daniellethat ran and it didnt have any errors that i know of23:34
dassoukii've lost my file/edit menus on a lot of applications but the apps them self work fine. I'm on 9.10/gnome23:35
mr_engineerDasEi, can you help me creating a 40_custom entry? The syntax seems to differ from that in menu.lst23:35
ActionParsnipsyn-ack: makes sense, less than a dollar a disk is ok23:35
syn-ackyeah, the front page only said "$250"23:35
julioi'm looking someone that knows HAL23:35
DasEimr_engineer: not to good at grub 223:35
julioany?23:35
ActionParsnip!anyone | julio23:35
ubottujulio: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?23:35
tongazubuntu-es23:36
trismmr_engineer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#User-defined Entries there is an example, menuentry "Ubuntu*" { } similar syntax to menu.lst23:36
mr_engineertrism, thanks23:36
trismmr_engineer: just copy the menuentry {} part, the cat and echo aren't needed in 40_custom23:37
Elmaronhttp://pastebin.com/d408b0bbc :/23:37
bgjslTHE BEST OF THE BEST23:37
juliohow can i use multiple keyb layouts? one for the notebooks kb and one usb23:37
bgjslUBUNTU 9.04 jaunty23:37
SHumphreyCan someone help me with tinyproxy?23:37
epaphusepinky, Vonnick, bastid_raZor ...   Shredder is the alpha release of Thuinderbird .. it isnt a release candidate of thunderbird either.   If i install it on windows from th site it doesnt say anything about shredder. It appears that this install is some kind of mistake i didnt ask for an alpha release but just the thunderbird 3 beta release which is more stable. In any case...23:38
ActionParsnipjuilo: you'll need to use xorg.conf for that dude23:38
LjL!caps | bgjsl23:38
ubottubgjsl: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.23:38
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epaphusiam trying to get the beta thunderbird 3 directly:...  The problem is iam trying to install it on linux. i go to http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/ i download the tar gz , inside it the readme says just that for more information on installing it go to http://getthunderbird.com/releases/ . but that site says nothing about how to install on linux23:39
Elmaronsomeone having an idea what that log wants to tell me? http://pastebin.com/d408b0bbc23:39
epaphus(linux == karmic 9.10)23:39
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sproatyhow can I stop newly loaded programs stealing focus? If i load my application from eclipse then switch to firefox, my app steals focus when it is loaded23:39
ActionParsnipepaphus: linux == the kernel23:39
syn-ackepaphus: linux !=Karmic23:39
syn-ackActionParsnip: Exactly23:39
epaphusyeah, sorry ActionParsnip23:39
Elmaron"no more processes left in this runlevel" <= what does that mean?23:40
Peter-netbookBack at the drawing board with this UNR issue.  I thought it was perhaps the creation of the USB, so I created a live DSL on the same USBKey and that booted fine, in the meantime i redl'd UNR from the ubuntu.com and then remade the key for UNR, still loads through to spinning dial and then hangs up indefinately.23:40
pwnedulongtimeanyone tried google chrome beta yet?23:40
pwnedulongtimeso fast23:40
bgjslyes23:40
ActionParsnippwnedulongtime: i use chromium instead, opensource ftw :)23:40
DopeGhotipwnedulongtime: the OS, or the browser?23:40
bgjslchrome is running vey good  on ubuntu23:41
Elmaronplease, any syslog wizards here? :|23:41
pwnedulongtimebrowser23:41
beejeebuspwnedulongtime: what ActionParsnip said23:41
ElmaronI need to get this machine booted again ASAP23:41
pwnedulongtimeActionParsnip: you have to compile yourself?23:41
ActionParsnippwnedulongtime: i use the daily build repo23:41
pwnedulongtimeActionParsnip: daily builds are mostly stable?23:41
ActionParsnippwnedulongtime: seems fine here23:42
syn-ackhrm23:42
syn-ackI wish I could find a lucid kernel in the backports23:42
pwnedulongtimehttps://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa   ?23:43
ActionParsnippwnedulongtime: bingo23:43
AfalHOW DO INSTALL UBUNTU ON MY IPHONE?23:43
LjL!caps | Afal23:43
ubottuAfal: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.23:43
LjLAfal: i don't think that's possible.23:43
Zeppelinhey23:43
DopeGhotiAfal: you don't/can't.23:44
syn-ackAfal: impossible.23:44
ZeppelinI am new to ubnuntu23:44
ZeppelinIf I sudo apt-get'd install'd something23:44
Zeppelinhow do i uninstall it23:44
trismsyn-ack: if you really wanted, you could probably install the linux-image package from lucid on karmic. I'm using the karmic kernel on jaunty without issues (better driver support, but I don't really want to upgrade this old laptop)23:44
Afalthen how come I saw people do it on tv?23:44
LjLZeppelin: sudo apt-get remove something23:44
DopeGhotiZeppelin: sudo apt-get --purge remove «something»23:44
LjLAfal: you must be mistaken.23:44
trismsyn-ack: it is pretty self-contained23:44
Zeppelinsudo-apt-get --purpe remove amarok23:44
Zeppelin?^23:44
williamyAlguem poderia me ajudar?23:44
LjL!br | williamy23:44
ubottuwilliamy: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.23:44
DopeGhotiZeppelin: no - after sudo23:44
Afalwhere can I dowload ubuntu on Itunes?23:45
ActionParsnipZeppelin: then run: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove    after to remove the dependancies23:45
DopeGhotiAfal: you cannot.23:45
epinkyAfal: some TV programs are science fictional23:45
LjL!ubuntu | afal23:45
ubottuafal: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com23:45
syn-acktrism: I generally grab the aa mainline git tree from the kernel.ubuntu page and compile from there23:45
Zeppelinalso yea23:45
syn-ack!troll | Afal23:45
ubottuAfal: trolling / trollish behaviour is behaviour that is considered annoying by other channel users, this includes going offtopic, asking the same question time and again getting answered and not acknowledging the answer, and these are not the only ways behaviour can be considered trolling, please see /msg ubottu guidelines - if this applies to you, you may find yourself outside the channel23:45
DasEiZeppelin:  sudo apt-get remove --purge23:45
beejeebuspwnedulongtime: http://costela.net/2009/12/notes-on-the-google-chrome-debian-package/23:45
ZeppelinI gotta say I love Ubuntu23:45
ZeppelinIt's a great operating system23:45
Zeppelin:)23:45
DopeGhotiZeppelin: glad you're liking it, and welcome1 :)23:45
justine777wDasEi: you there?23:45
Elmaroncan anyone help me please? :(23:45
ActionParsnipAfal: same place yuo download any software on itunes23:46
DasEijustine777w: y23:46
AfalActionParsnip: cool thanks23:46
Peter-netbookSnossages you still around?23:46
justine777wDasEi: so i booted the live disc and tried to get back on her but i couldnt23:46
Afaldownloading now23:46
DasEijustine777w: why ? no network ?23:46
justine777wdasEi: i had network, but i only know how to get on here thru pidgin and it didnt have it and i tried to DL it and it would not let me23:47
DasEijustine777w: there is emphaty, facts are same irc.ubuntu.com 666723:49
noelitoWhere can I get some good information on setting up autofs to connect to a win XP Pro share? All off my attempts have failed so far.23:49
ActionParsnipnoelito: add it in /etc/fstab23:49
DasEijustine777w: is this the same computer or another machine you talk from now ?23:49
justine777wDasEi: same computer23:49
ActionParsnipDanielle: hows it going?23:49
DasEijustine777w: which os now ?23:49
justine777wDasEi: mine not livecd23:50
epinkynoelito: tried /etc/auto.smb?23:50
DasEijustine777w: so you are in your running ubuntu ??23:50
dassoukiI was wondering if anyone has faced this problem before. I've lost my menus (File/view/Edit ..) on some Nautilus apps, skype, eclipse, tux guitar..) the apps work fine but the menus are missing. On the other hand other apps have the menus working fine23:50
Afalok running ubuntu on my iphone now23:50
justine777wDasEi: yes i am. I am trying to fix my computer problems23:50
ActionParsnipAfal: wtg :D23:51
Afalthanks for your help ActionParsnip23:51
Elmarondarn23:51
noelitoepinky: I tryed auto.master. Is auto.smb the same thing?23:51
Elmaronwhy is ntpd [defunct]?23:51
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DasEijustine777w: so I missunderstood, I thought next to updating boot was broken too, fine then, open a trml ..23:51
Elmaronit seems that thing caused my server to shutdown and prevented it from rebooting23:51
justine777wDasEi: open23:51
Elmaronany bad updates to ntpd in the past?23:51
DasEijustine777w: df -h             what about space ?23:52
epinkynoelito: uncomment /etc/auto.smb in /etc/fstab23:52
grandrewhi all! how can I find what packages are libGLU and libGLCore in? I have a mess with open/proprietary drivers :-(23:52
epinkynoelito: uncomment /etc/auto.smb in /etc/auto.master , sorry23:52
chasedawg1how do i get gdm setup?23:52
GoliathHi23:52
devanirdevanir23:52
bgjsl-H cprehensive for onesel it means23:52
noelitoActionParsnip: I need it to connect on access as my win xp box may be rebooted and the mount would I think break.23:52
DasEigrandrew: apt-cache show23:52
ActionParsnipchasedawg1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm23:52
gilesheya all23:53
justine777wDasEi: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/343095/23:53
Goliathi got the new filesystem package and i dont know which changes need to be applied from fstab and fstab.new23:53
ActionParsnipnoelito: then run: sudo mount -a     if the access failed, then it will attempt to reconnect23:53
gilesI was trying to make some changes to my X configuration23:53
gilesbut there isn't a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file on my system23:53
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gileshas is been moved around?23:54
gilesthere is a failsafe file23:54
noelitoActionParsnip: Thanks, for you help.23:54
grandrewDasEi: no package named libGL23:54
DasEijustine777w: your problem is you're just runing 3.7G for root, thats far too small23:54
ActionParsnipgiles: karmic doesnt ship with one, if you make one it will be used23:54
mr_engineercan somebody check my 40_custom grub2 entry? http://paste.ubuntu.com/343098/23:54
gilesah i thought it might be that23:54
ActionParsnipDasEi: my root would fit on that, i only have a seperate home23:54
chasedawg1is there a way to change the login screen in 9.10?23:55
justine777wDasEi: yes i know but I can not get into synaptic to get gparted so i can make my partition bigger. Thats why i was told to boot from liveCd and then run fsck and then I should be okay, but that did not work23:55
ActionParsnipchasedawg1: its not coded in by default, epidermis may help though23:55
gilesso is there a way I can generate one?23:55
DasEiActionParsnip: sure, I even a 1g usb...23:55
noelitoepinky: One more thing. Do Is still need to add a mount "line" in my auto.master? I have "/mnt/htpc/etc/auto.htpc.mnt" at the moment.23:55
ActionParsnipgiles: i can give you mine stripped out if you like23:55
joshuajtlcan anyone tell me how to find out which touchpad i have? alps or synaptics?23:55
ActionParsnipDasEi: mines a full install very stripped out23:55
mr_engineerill be back23:56
DasEijustine777w: so let's drop whats possible then23:56
ActionParsnipjoshuajtl: sudo lshw | less    and read23:56
trismmr_engineer: delete the lines with cat and echo and the EOF at the end, they aren't needed23:56
DasEi!trash | justine777w23:56
ubottujustine777w: The location of Trash has changed since 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash23:56
justine777wDasEi: in terminal?23:56
trismmr_engineer: so delete line 6, 7 and 1323:56
Afalguys: what is your favourite feature of ubuntu?23:56
joshuajtlthanks ActionParsnip... and read though? what else would I do :)23:56
Afalmy favourite is purble palace23:56
epinkynoelito: no, don't do that, you only define automount maps in /etc/auto.master23:56
klappiAfal: the shutdown button23:57
gilesActionParsnip: there's supposed to be a dpkg command to generate one23:57
Afalklappi: yeah I like that one too23:57
DasEijustine777w: sudo rm  r ~/.local/share/Trash/*23:57
gilesdoesn't seem to do anything though23:57
ActionParsnipgiles: http://pastebin.com/m6196757023:57
ActionParsnipgiles: its not used so I dont think so, it will make something like that23:57
ae86-drifterevery time the screensaver kicks in my laptop freezes23:58
justine777wDasEi: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/343101/23:58
ae86-drifterevery time the screensaver kicks in my laptop freezes, even when i go in there to change it to turn it off, it freezes from the preview window, is there a config file for the screen saver????23:58
berrybarryhey could someone reccomend a webbased vnc23:58
gilesshows me how little I still know about desktop linux23:58
knopixalguem portugues23:58
DasEijustine777w: sudo rm -r ~/.local/share/Trash/*23:58
LjL!pt | knopix23:58
knopixpara me ajudar23:58
ubottuknopix: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.23:58
gilesreally rusty23:58
noelitoepinky: I am sorry but I don't understand where I specify the specific information of where to mount which share. I thought it was in the auto.master?23:59
gilesI actually had a bizarre problem installing ubuntu via a cd23:59
syriuswhat is wrong with my ubuntus when I try to compress it just makes an archive of the exact same size what gives?23:59
justine777wDasEi: no such file23:59
methodshow do i disable pulse audio ?23:59
gileskept asking for the cd again when it got to the configuring grub stage23:59
syriusI compressed a 90 mb file and I got the same file size23:59
gilesin the end I used a minicd image23:59
DasEijustine777w: sudo apt-get remove --purge gnome-games*23:59

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