[00:00] <trimaster> all the dvd-burners at directron.com work right out of the box on linux.
 i can try that...but don't they essentially do the same thing.....and since there is no legacy grub on my system (9.10 was fresh install)...sudo update grub is the same as update grub2...but I will try
[00:00] <brad_> apocalypt hardware
[00:01] <apocalypt> brad_: i guess every normal cd burner works . what u are looking for
[00:01] <EastDallas> guyster: what mp3 player?
[00:01] <brad_> well my poineer dvd burner would not work at all
[00:01] <dante123> DasEi the 9.04 is installed on second partition....and i never installed the bootloader when I installed it so that it would not overwrite my 9.10 bootloader...
[00:01] <guyster> I have a sansa e260 (4 gb mp3 player).  When I plug it in, I'm unable to see it in places.  Is there a way I can fix that?
[00:01] <trimaster> brad: is it dead?
[00:02] <sebsebseb> dante123: dual booting 9.10 and 9.04?
[00:02] <brad_> it dont seem to be but I have no other way of testing it
[00:02] <EastDallas> guyster: does it show up as a mountable drive?
[00:02] <DasEi> dante123: grub --version  to get the version, 9.04 is jaunty is legacy, 9.10 is grub2 in a fresh install
[00:03] <dante123> sebsebseb basically yes, I have 9.10 on partition one.....installed 9.04 derivative (Jolicloud) on second partition.....did not install bootloader when doing that so it would not overwrite 9.10 version.....
[00:03] <losha> brad_: start with the basics. What does dmesg | egrep -i cd-rom say?
[00:03] <guyster> I don't think so.  It's not in places/computer.  How else would I be able to tell?
[00:03] <racecar56> i have GRUB legacy installed, and upgraded to GRUB 2. now, it has new entries about "Chainload into GRUB 2". if i select it, it says "Error 11: Unrecognized device string". how do i fix this?
[00:04] <sebsebseb> dante123: ok so I guess you need to edit the file for Grub 2 so it can boot up 9.04 as well or something.  By the way why are you dual booting the two versions?
[00:04] <brad_> losha i dont have it hooked up but i could if you walk me through it
[00:04] <dante123> then I rebooted into 9.10 and ran "sudo update-grub" and it added Jolicloud entry....but when I try to run the entyr I get..
[00:04] <apocalypt> dante123: if u are install the bootloader on another disk is would't override the grub
 you mean install the bootloader on the second partition with 9.04 derivative
[00:05] <brad_> losha: I will hook it up and reboot. would you walk me through it ?
[00:05] <EastDallas> guyster: check the USB mode on the e260. It must be MSC (Settings > USB Mode > MSC).
[00:05] <losha> brad_: well, lets start with the basics. Is it IDE, Sata or usb?
[00:05] <brad_> ide
[00:05] <dante123> sebsebseb really like the Jolicloud for my daughter....cloud based, facebook etc.  nice interface too (like UNR but even slicker I feel)
[00:06] <sebsebseb> dante123: jolicloud???
[00:06] <brad_> losha : ide
[00:06] <apocalypt> dante123: yeah. i guess it starts with bootloader from the first disk so it shouldn't be effect anything if u install grub from 9.04 on another disk
[00:06] <losha> brad_: ok, do you know how to connect it up?
[00:06] <guyster> It is.  Has to be msc to run rockbox, so I know it is definitely set to msc.
[00:06] <brad_> yeah but should it be set on master or slave?
[00:07] <Mike_lifeguard> Is there a PPA where I can get Thunderbird 3?
 you mean if I hadnt told it not to install bootloader...it would have installed it into 9.04 partition and would not have hurt my 9.10 install?
[00:07] <apocalypt> Mike_lifeguard: yeah there is
[00:07] <losha> brad_: is it the only thing on the ide cable, or is there something else on the cable?
[00:08] <brad_> i mean the actual dvd burner jumper settings
[00:08] <dante123> but when I first chose the second partition to install 9.04...it asks for the file system...I chose ext4...and the mount point...which I put as /
[00:08] <thorsten11> hello hello
[00:08] <dante123> would installing the bootloader have messed up booting 9.10 on first partition???
[00:08] <sebsebseb> dante123: Ext4 in 9.04 hmm
[00:08] <sebsebseb> dante123: well in your case something based on 9.04
[00:08] <EastDallas> You don't see it under the places menu?  It should show up as a flash drive.
[00:09] <berrybarry> hello thorsten11
[00:09] <dante123> sebsebseb....lots of questions from you......any ideas?
[00:09] <Mike_lifeguard> apocalypt: do you happen to have a link handy?
[00:09] <EastDallas> guyster: You don't see it under the places menu?  It should show up as a flash drive.
[00:09] <losha> brad_: I understand. An ide cable supports one master and one slave. So the jumper settings will depend on whether there's something else on the cable or not and what the other thing is set to...
[00:09] <epinky> Mike_lifeguard: Karmic?
[00:09] <Mike_lifeguard> yea
[00:09] <brad_> i have another set to slave
[00:09] <sebsebseb> dante123: Anyway in Ubuntu 9.04, Ext4 is not properly stable, because of the kernel they have and such.  Well it's been fine for me with 9.04.
[00:09] <dante123> 1st partition = 9.10 with grub2,  2nd partition= swap file, 3rd partition= 9.04 derivative (jolicloud)
[00:10] <fogrider> i got a problem with a computer unable to install ubuntu desktop 9.10 .  i boot to the cd. Select English as language, then select install. I get the ubuntu symbol in the middle of the screen and that's it.
[00:10] <apocalypt> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ubuntu karmic main Mike_lifeguard
[00:10] <dante123> when i first boot...grub shows both OS'es...but I cannot boot into the second (9.04 Joli) one
[00:10] <losha> brad_: if you already have a slave, the other device i.e. this dvd burner, must be set to master...
[00:10] <racecar56> how do i make GRUB re-detect the operating systems? i cannot access Ubuntu on there because i have to update the entries in order to be able to do that...
[00:10] <Mike_lifeguard> apocalypt, epinky: thanks
[00:10] <brad_> ok  ill be back
[00:11] <dante123> sebsebseb http://www.jolicloud.com/
[00:11] <spiffman> racecar56 /usr/sbin/update-grub will find your installed kernels and put them in the grub menu
[00:11] <losha> brad_: ok, don't do this without shutting down your system first, ok?
[00:11] <epinky> Mike_lifeguard: http://pastebin.com/ma889a5b
[00:11] <fogrider> anybody have any ideas?
[00:11] <sebsebseb> dante123: yeah thanks :)  something I can vm
[00:11] <racecar56> spiffman: i can't get ubuntu to boot, that's the problem.
[00:11] <apocalypt> dante123: normally grub will be installed on the first disk automatically. if u install grub from 9.04 on the root disk of 9.04 it should effect the grub on the first disk. after that make a update-grub2 on karmic partition
[00:11] <sebsebseb> dante123: plus I quite like Ubuntu 9.04, except a thing or two
[00:11] <spiffman> racecar56 so you get to grub menu and you have no working OS to boot into?
[00:12] <racecar56> spiffman: right.
[00:12] <apocalypt> *shouldn't
[00:12] <cryevil> hola
[00:12] <racecar56> spiffman: they all say "Error 11: Unrecognized device string"
[00:12] <cryevil> hola
[00:12] <sebsebseb> !es |  cryevil
[00:12] <berrybarry> cryevil how old are you
[00:12] <spiffman> racecar56 probably should get a liveCD and reinstall or reconfigure grub, there are extensive howto's on that
[00:12] <guyster> EastDallas, no, it's not there.  The only drives I see there are my dvd-rom, reader and my usb card reader, no mp3 or flash drive-like entry.  Now if I do plug in my flash drive, that actually does show up.
[00:12] <cheesepoop> I need a suggestion for a good nzb downloader
[00:12] <fogrider> i got a problem with a computer unable to install ubuntu desktop 9.10 .  i boot to the cd. Select English as language, then select install. I get the ubuntu symbol in the middle of the screen and that's it.
[00:13] <apocalypt> fogrider: try the cd with the alternate installer
[00:13] <fogrider> how do you mean?
[00:13] <losha> fogrider: how long did you wait. The logo goes up while it loads. Bad choice by the developers, since you can't see what's going on.
[00:14] <fogrider> hours....
[00:14] <Yon> -
[00:14] <epinky> fogrider: does your machine meet minimum requirements?
[00:14] <fogrider> apocalypt: what do you mean?
[00:14] <apocalypt> fogrider: there i few versions ob ubuntu CDs. one is the alternate
[00:14] <fogrider> losha: hours....
[00:14] <racecar56> spiffman: i found a working windows XP install, would that be of any use to fix it?
[00:14] <losha> fogrider: switch to 8.04 instead then....
[00:14] <EastDallas> guyster:  did you install rockbox using ubuntu?
[00:14] <fogrider> epinky:    i believe so... penium d 2.80 with 2 gig of ram.   ran windows vista
[00:15] <arctic_import> is libnss-ldap broken in 9.10?  I cannot get it to work at all, I 've installed configured and when running a getent passwd it doesn't even attempt to contact my ldap server (i'm sniffing it with wireshark) what could I be missing?
[00:15] <spiffman> racecar56 probably not... the livecd includes grub, and supports ext3. windows has a hard time reading/writing to linux partitons
[00:15] <apocalypt> fogrider: x86 or x64?
[00:15] <racecar56> fogrider: geez, my oldest comp which is much lower quality than yours runs 9.10 just fine (except for some intel video driver madness)
[00:16] <losha> fogrider: switch to 8.04 instead then. If 8.04 won't boot, you know you have a serious hardware incompatibility....
[00:16] <spiffman> racecar56 this might help http://www.daniweb.com/forums/thread217995.html#
[00:16] <fogrider> apocalypt   x86
[00:16] <EastDallas> guyster: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/345916  Check out the instrux in comment #7
[00:16] <abuqutaita> hey all, i have a question regarding partitioning for a file server
[00:16] <guyster> Yes, way back in Ubuntu feisty.  Worked perfectly up through intrepid.  When we hit Jaunty it stopped.  Haven't tried Karmic, but kind of afraid to, since I depend on stable audio.
[00:16] <abuqutaita> there's 4 HDDs i want to use for server storage
[00:17] <abuqutaita> is there a way to span a single volume across all 4?
[00:17] <Snausages> when do we get lascivious loon or whatever it is?
[00:17] <racecar56> spiffman: k. i have 9.04 installed and i have a kubuntu 9.04 USB stick too, but i don't know what to do. i tried the grub prompt method and it doesn't help
[00:17] <maco> !lucid | Snausages
[00:17] <abuqutaita> they are differing sizes (160, 250, 250, 320gb)
[00:17] <erUSUL> !lvm | abuqutaita
[00:17] <Retro198909> losha: i got it hooked up and set on master
[00:17] <abuqutaita> oo, thx
[00:17] <Mike_lifeguard> How do you set different priorities for apt repositories?
[00:18] <abuqutaita> how dogdy is software raid
[00:18] <losha> Retro198909: open a terminal and type: dmesg | egrep -i cd-rom
[00:18] <quietone> I'd like to return to the sound preferences used in 9.04. How do I?
[00:18] <Snausages> abuqutaita: fairly...  depends on what it's serving
[00:18] <spiffman> racecar56 ok so you can boot from the usb stick and get into a console?
[00:18] <racecar56> spiffman: yes
[00:18] <facility`> hi
[00:18] <Snausages> abuqutaita: also depends on what disks you're using and what firmware they're running
[00:18] <racecar56> facility`: hi
[00:19] <abuqutaita> all WD disks
[00:19] <spiffman> racecar56 and you can see your linux partitions using 'sudo fdisk -l' ?
[00:19] <erUSUL> abuqutaita: for what you want use lvm
[00:19] <racecar56> spiffman: let me try that (im not booted in the USB stick so just wait a bit)
[00:19] <abuqutaita> is there a better solution than software raid?
[00:19] <erUSUL> abuqutaita: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO
[00:19] <Snausages> abuqutaita: were they sold as server or consumer disks?
[00:19] <spiffman> racecar56 sure thing
[00:19] <facility`> hi, i got a problem, my system says that FastUserSwitchApplet could not be loaded. I installed pidgin and uninstalled empathy. my system is ubuntu 9.10, can you help me?
[00:19] <lorenzo_> the "new im-message" icon is now showing in karmic. it may sound trivial but i'd like to fix it. any help on how to do it? thanks a lot everyone
[00:19] <abuqutaita> consumer disks
[00:19] <Retro198909> losha: i got "Usage: dmesg [-c] [-n level] [-s bufsize]"
[00:19] <abuqutaita> wd caviar
[00:20] <abuqutaita> i'm assuming lvm is better
[00:20] <ary> ola
[00:20] <facility`> (i started using linux 3 days ago, got not much knowledge :) )
[00:20] <losha> Retro198909: you typed it wrong. Cut & paste the line I typed
[00:20] <Retro198909> losha: I also have another optical drive which works
[00:20] <ary> sdsd
[00:20] <berrybarry> facility linux is fun :)
[00:21] <jonzbcc> could someone using gnome try `nautilus ./` (while in some directory other than home), and tell me if they also get the following errors on console, even though everything seems fine: (nautilus:14595): Eel-CRITICAL **: eel_preferences_get_boolean: assertion `preferences_is_initialized ()' failed
[00:21] <EastDallas> guyster: this exactly describes your problem worked in intrepid, broken in Jaunty: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libgphoto2/+bug/355998
[00:21] <Retro198909> losha: I cant copy and paste
[00:21] <berrybarry> facility theirs crossover office :P
[00:21] <phantomcircuit> so guys
[00:22] <Retro198909> losha: im using xchat and I cant figure out how to copy
[00:22] <phantomcircuit> i have a reproducible crash from the nvidia binary drivers
[00:22] <Nooneshere> Hello. Sorry if you all have seen to much of me today, but i really need someone to help me with my boot manager. I am afraid that if we mess with it much more it will break. So can anyone try to help me?
[00:22] <phantomcircuit> when 3d acceleration is used
[00:22] <gerzel> Hey is there a way to make nautilus do multipaned windows?  Ie veiw two tabs side by side w/o creating a new nautilus window?
[00:22] <gerzel> It seems to have everything else, but that.
[00:22] <facility`> berrybarry : by now i think there are some small things i dont like. things where i think: not to much to have that problem fixed :)
[00:22] <spiffman> phantomcircuit elaborate
[00:23] <jonzbcc> Nooneshere: just ask the question
[00:23] <losha> Retro198909: try it again: dmesg | egrep -i cd-rom   <-- that's a pipe symbol after dmesg (shift + \ character on my keyboard)
[00:23] <phantomcircuit> spiffman, running glxgears causes Xorg to use 100% of cpu time
[00:23] <facility`> i spend much time to switch the "bongo" sound off when the system is ready :) for example
[00:23] <Quan-Time> how can i list the device id of my usb hdd caddy ?
[00:23] <racecar56> spiffman: finally in a terminal now
[00:23] <phantomcircuit> spiffman, firefox using pixmap support causes artifacting
[00:23] <berrybarry> facility ha its so customizable linux :) so many themes online
[00:23] <phantomcircuit> spiffman, it's super duper weird
[00:24] <Nooneshere> Jonzbcc:I did. I need help fixing my grub, so it sees windows.
[00:24] <spiffman> racecar56 you can see the harddisks with linux?
[00:24] <racecar56> spiffman: let me try now
[00:24] <jonzbcc> Quan-Time: fdisk -l (you'll need to be elevated priveleges)
[00:24] <facility`> so do you know anything about my pdigin /empathy / fastuserswitch -problem
[00:24] <Retro198909> losha: I got "[    5.100072] scsi 5:0:0:0: CD-ROM            PIONEER  DVD-RW  DVR-117D 1.07 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[00:24] <Retro198909> [    5.193504] Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
[00:24] <Retro198909> [    5.193567] sr 5:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
[00:24] <Retro198909> [    5.194724] scsi 5:0:1:0: CD-ROM            ATAPI    DVD C  DH52C2P   MP58 PQ: 0 ANSI: 5
[00:24] <FloodBot1> Retro198909: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:24] <spiffman> phantomcircuit that's pretty strange... shouldn't be using CPU if you have an nvidia card
[00:24] <spiffman> phantomcircuit at least not 100%
[00:25] <jonzbcc> Nooneshere: the problem is, it doesn't see windows?
[00:25] <losha> Retro198909: that's good. It means it sees your cd-rom as /dev/sr0. Does eject /dev/sr0 open the tray?
[00:25] <spiffman> phantomcircuit you installed them through apt?
[00:25] <jonzbcc> Nooneshere: you installed ubuntu after windows was installed?
[00:25] <spiffman> drivers i mean
[00:25] <Nooneshere> Jonzbcc: Yes. And i have done about five different ways so far. and windows after ubuntu.
[00:25] <Retro198909> losha: yes
[00:25] <phantomcircuit> spiffman, that's not the half of it though, i ctrl+alt+f1 to a normal tty and kill glxgears, when i ctrl+alt+f7 back xorg is all screwed up and stuff is green and crap
[00:26] <racecar56> spiffman: yees
[00:26] <phantomcircuit> spiffman, i installed the drivers using the hardware driver thing under administration
[00:26] <losha> Retro198909: so far so good. eject -t /dev/sr0 to close the tray. Now what do you want to burn?
[00:26] <racecar56> spiffman: the delay was because i was setting up a ssh server on the live USB stick so now i can remote control it from this comp
[00:26] <Quan-Time> cheers jonzbcc
[00:27] <Nooneshere> Jonzbcc: could i just do menu.lst and would that fix it all on its own/
[00:27] <Crash1hd> I am stuck and this used to work I am trying to run the command sudo tune2fs -L new /dev/sdc and I am getting the following error tune2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdc; Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
[00:27] <spiffman> racecar56 lol nice. ok can you mount the linux partition-in-question?
[00:27] <mMezquitale> Nooneshere, are you using karmic?  menu.lst is no more in grub2, it's actually a lot easier in grub2
[00:27] <racecar56> spiffman: i'll try mounting my root partition now.
[00:28] <racecar56> spiffman: it works without errors
[00:28] <losha> Crash1hd: does it fsck?
[00:28] <jonzbcc> Nooneshere: okay, given your current is ubuntu installed last, could you post your menu.lst to a pastebin so we can see it
[00:28] <Crash1hd> losha: yes
[00:28] <Nooneshere> Mezquitale:No i am waiting for Linux Pro magazine to include it with them, since my internet is too slow to download Distros or major updates.
[00:28] <jonzbcc> Nooneshere: what do you mean "do" menu.lst?
[00:29] <Nooneshere> Jonzbcc: Just edit it, no other changes. I am afraid much more linux interference i will break it.
[00:29] <abuqutaita> if i do software raid+lvm, i'll be limited to the size of the smallest HDD?
[00:29] <Nooneshere> Jonzbcc: Here it is. http://pastebin.com/m10fb61cd
[00:29] <racecar56> spiffman: anything else i should try?
[00:29] <Retro198909> losha: its not mounting a blank or dvd
[00:29] <losha> Crash1hd: something unsual about this filesystem you haven't told us?
[00:29] <spiffman> racecar56 ok good, so now you can edit the /boot/menu.lst (assuming its grub, not grub2), as far as update-grub hold on i'm going to double-check so i don't give you bad advice :P
[00:30] <Crash1hd> losha: not that I am aware of
[00:30] <MeXTuX> I need help! I am playing some windows multiplayer games with wine and everytime I want to play need to type this on a terminal: sudo ipx_interface add -p eth0 802.2 0x12345678. Can it be done automatically??? Tnx in advance
[00:30] <Crash1hd> losha: running fsck now and it says /dev/sda4: recovering journal
[00:30] <Crash1hd> losha: how long does that normally take?
[00:30] <losha> Retro198909: you can't mount blanks. And some dvds are encrypted
[00:30] <jonzbcc> Nooneshere: i'm having a bit of trouble understanding (eg. "linux interference", do you mean programs in linux are editing that file?)... either way, the general practice is to make a backup copy of a working bootable config, so that you can always rescue your system (with a live cd) and push the working backed-up config into place
[00:31] <jonzbcc> Nooneshere: just a sec while I go look at that
[00:31] <losha> Crash1hd: it's proportional to the disk size. How big is the disk?
[00:31] <justine777w> I am having problems with my computer. I need to run fsck but I do not know how. Can someone please help me?
[00:31] <losha> Retro198909: I recommend you install k3b. It's the best burning program.
[00:31] <Retro198909> losha: my liteon drive mounts blanks
[00:31] <racecar56> spiffman: i chrooted and i am installing grub now (it was a jammed upgrade from grub to grub2) :D let me see if THIS helps....
[00:31] <Crash1hd> depends on which disk its refering to but if its the sda disk its 1.5 terrabites
[00:31] <racecar56> spiffman: i chrooted into the root partition
[00:31] <Nooneshere> Jonzbcc: Its not that, i've been pounding at that parition all day, i'm afraid it will lock up or corrupt. And thank you.
[00:32] <spiffman> racecar56  ok perfect i was just looking up chroot because i haven't used it in awhile
[00:32] <racecar56> spiffman: ok
[00:32] <abuqutaita> is this true?
[00:32] <SIGBAAM> hi. what is the default device name for the parallel port in ubuntu?
[00:32] <losha> Retro198909: I dunno what that means. By definition, a blank has no file system on it, therefore there's nothing to 'mount'....
[00:32] <Crash1hd> losha: depends on which disk its refering to but if its the sda disk its 1.5 terrabites
[00:32] <widget> hey guys, i install ubuntu 8.04 on an old laptop, but the touchpad doesn't seem to work at all...any  ideas ?
[00:32] <EastDallas> guyster:  any luck?
[00:32] <phantomcircuit> spiffman, apparently when x went down it took down my wifi
[00:32] <jonzbcc> Nooneshere: it looks like you just need to add a menu option in for your windows partition
[00:32] <Retro198909> losha: a icon on the desktop shows a blank cd
[00:32] <KittyBoots> I am verry annoyed with hardware vendors not supporting Linux
[00:33] <racecar56> spiffman: alright i update-grubbed in the chroot.
[00:33] <Marcos_Baiano> Oi
[00:33] <justine777w> Hello I am new to this room, can someone please message me? i need help with my computer.
[00:33] <Marcos_Baiano> Boa noite
[00:33] <jonzbcc> Nooneshere: do you know which disk/partitino number its on? you can view that with `sudo fdisk -l`
[00:33] <losha> Crash1hd:it can take 40 minutes to fsck a disk that big
[00:33] <racecar56> spiffman: i think this will work :D
[00:33] <maco> !pt | Marcos_Baiano
[00:33] <Nooneshere> Jonzbcc: Really? How do i do that? i think it is sda1
[00:33] <KittyBoots> justine777w: what's happening babes?
[00:33] <spiffman> racecar56 ok well theoretically grub should work now.. if the boot still fails it might be the ubuntu installation
[00:33] <phantomcircuit> justine777w, it's better to just ask your question in the main channel
[00:33] <EastDallas> justine777w, explain your problem here
[00:33] <mMezquitale> justine777w, you need to create a live CD if you want to use fsck, say in your "/" partition, any hard drive that you use fsck must not be mounted, that is why I recommend for you to use a live CD unless you know what youre doing
[00:33] <racecar56> spiffman: the install was a mini 9.04, and it is mostly fresh
[00:33] <sebsebseb> !ask |  justine777w
[00:34] <phantomcircuit> mMezquitale, uh or create /forcefsck
[00:34] <justine777w> Hi kittyboots and eastdallas - i need to fsck my computer but i do not know how
[00:34] <Nooneshere> Jonzbcc: Aha, SDA2
[00:34] <losha> Retro198909: Ah, technically, that's not a 'mount'. It's just a nautilus trick. I recommend you try k3b
[00:34] <racecar56> justine777w: fsck /dev/sda maybe
[00:34] <phantomcircuit> justine777w, `sudo touch /forcefsck` then reboot
[00:34] <Crash1hd> losha: well that was alot faster then I thought lol its done it said that it had a few things it recovered
[00:34] <spiffman> racecar56 awesome, cross your fingers and let grub do its thing :D
[00:34] <justine777w> phantom- use terminal?
[00:34] <Retro198909> losha: I tried using kb3 and it said I no blank cd when in fact i did
[00:34] <racecar56> spiffman: it's rebooting now
[00:34] <losha> Crash1hd: see if tune2fs works now...
[00:35] <Crash1hd> losha: it says that both sda4 and sda2 are clean
[00:35] <phantomcircuit> justine777w, yes use a terminal
[00:35] <Crash1hd> losha: nope same error
[00:35] <racecar56> spiffman: it works :D
[00:36] <spiffman> racecar56 :) good stuff
[00:36] <losha> Crash1hd: did /dev/sdc get fsked?
[00:36] <racecar56> spiffman: yay for chroot
[00:36] <jonzbcc> Nooneshere: read this page, it explains much better than I could via this irc (also it explains what each line (of the 5) means, so you can be sure its right for you: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/grubconf-for-windows-vista-or-xp-dual-boot/
[00:36] <Crash1hd> losha: no just sda2 and sda4
[00:37]  * spiffman drinks to chroot
[00:37] <losha> Crash1hd: but its /dev/sdc you're trying to label, right?
[00:37] <Nooneshere> Jonzbcc: Thank you so much Jonzbcc, you have been a good help.
[00:37] <Crash1hd> losha: yes
[00:37] <losha> Crash1hd: force an fsck on /dev/sdc e.g. fsck -f /dev/sdc
[00:37] <jonzbcc> Nooneshere: no problem :)
[00:38] <Nooneshere> Jonzbcc: One last question sadly, where do i put it? Anywhere or at the top or bottom?
[00:38] <Crash1hd> hmmm
[00:38] <Retro198909> losha: it did not see my blank cd
[00:38] <jonzbcc> the order in which they're listed in your config file is the order they'll show up when you boot your computer. so if you want your windows option to be the first in the list (on boot) then, but your windows stuff first
[00:39] <phantomcircuit> Nooneshere, btw i suspect that what you want is `grub-install --recheck --install`
[00:39] <jonzbcc> Nooneshere: ^
[00:39] <losha> Retro198909: well all burners should basically work the same, there's no special trick. Either your burner is broken, or possibly the cable is faulty?
[00:39] <spurnone2> i need help switching my netboot remix desktop to classic mode. the desktop switcher is not install and can not be downloaded. any suggestions?
[00:39] <Nooneshere> Jonzbcc: No the aritcle you linked me, do i insert the code? Can it be anywhere in the file?
[00:39] <losha> Crash1hd: what kind of filesystem is it, btw?
[00:40] <Crash1hd> losha: its ext3 and it says that its in use
[00:40] <jonzbcc> right, that code is what represents the "windows" boot option in your config file
[00:40] <Retro198909> losha: i dont see how since my lite on drive works on the same cable
[00:40] <robert__> hi i am having trouble installing a modem on this box - i am clueless about linux but i have tried using the CD rom with the install
[00:40] <Crash1hd> losha: Filesystem mounted or opened exclusively by another program <--is what it says
[00:40] <jonzbcc> Nooneshere: did you see my "the order in which.." message? (I forgot to address it to you, scroll up and see)
[00:41] <losha> Crash1hd: yes, you need to unmount it first. You might need to boot into single user mode if you can't unmount it
[00:41] <Crash1hd> losha: right
[00:41] <phantomcircuit> Nooneshere, dont edit the grub menu manually get grub-install to recheck for new OSs
[00:41] <spurnone2> Is there anyway to switch desktop mode to classic in ubuntu netbook remix 9.10??
[00:41] <Crash1hd> losha: umount: /dev/sdc is not mounted (according to mtab)
[00:41] <losha> Retro198909: then that just leaves a faulty burner. They do go bad you know. All those high-precision moving parts...
[00:41] <Nooneshere> Phantomcircuit, i have done so, twice already, with no avail.
[00:42] <jonzbcc> Nooneshere: do you understand what I mean, now?
[00:42] <Retro198909> losha: its like brand new
[00:42] <Nooneshere> Jonzbcc: No clue. But i am rebooting, i hope it works..
[00:42] <sahil_sk> hey, which language is best for gui? and how one novice like me jump into gui designing?
[00:42] <abuqutaita> am i limited by the size of my smallest HDD for a software raid?
[00:42] <jonzbcc> ...okay good luck to him
[00:43] <sahil_sk> ?
[00:43] <Jesus_> \exit maranhao
[00:43] <Jesus_> uehuhe
[00:43] <losha> Crash1hd: your system seems to be behaving a little oddly. If you have anything valuable on /dev/sdc I'd back it up now. Then boot to single-user mode and force an fsck on it. The messages you're seeing aren't normal. I'm worried the file system is corrupted...
[00:43] <sahil_sk> gui designing ?
[00:43] <git__> Muhammad rules the world
[00:43] <jonzbcc> can someone with gnome please try: `cd ~/Desktop; nautilus ./` and tell me if they get error messages
[00:44] <Crash1hd> losha: thats always good lol hmm I wouldnt even know this if it wasnt the fact that I just wanted to rename the drive
[00:44] <robert__> are there any resources that document how to install a modem - or has a copy of the scanmodem program?
[00:44] <losha> Retro198909: return it to the store? Or try it in another machine
[00:44] <Crash1hd> losha: how do I boot into single user mode?
[00:44] <phix> Slart: Did you find any more information on finding out the boot time?
[00:45] <jonzbcc> hello? someone please try the command for me?
[00:45] <losha> Crash1hd: what os version are you running?
[00:45] <Retro198909> losha: I dont have another pc to test it on
[00:46] <phix> Slart: :D /var/log/kern.log.1:Dec  7 10:40:13 backupserver kernel: [15222636.581238] usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 103
[00:46] <Retro198909> losha: I got it from newegg but I should be able to rma since I had a 2 year warranty
[00:46] <phix> Slart: thnx buddy
[00:46] <Crash1hd> losha: well I would tell you but the about doesnt seem to want to load properly
[00:46] <phix> Slart: you are way more helpful than LjL :)
[00:46] <losha> Retro198909: use a friends? There aren't a lot of alternative ways to test hardware....
[00:47] <losha> Crash1hd: your system doesn't sound very healthy. I'm worried. Open a terminal and type cat /etc/issue
[00:47] <tvaughn> i am unable to login to gnome on ubuntu 9.10 any ideas
[00:48] <phix> tvaughn: Can you be a bit more vague?
[00:48] <Crash1hd> losha: that returns Ubuntu 9.04 \n \l
[00:48] <tvaughn> it crashes
[00:48] <phix> tvaughn: yeah, that sucks
[00:48] <phix> tvaughn: Can you access the log files?
[00:48] <tvaughn> what can i do to remedy the situation
[00:48] <tvaughn> which ones
[00:48] <yellowrooster> hi, i put in a dvd into my drive but i can't play the move
[00:48] <phix> tvaughn: /var/log/syslog is always helpful
[00:48] <yellowrooster> movie
[00:48] <phix> tvaughn: so is /var/log/kern.log
[00:49] <yellowrooster> i followed the steps on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[00:49] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[00:49] <phix> tvaughn: can you login as console?
[00:49] <tvaughn> yes
[00:49] <losha> Crash1hd: ok, so when you reboot, you press escape and should get a grub menu. Select the first entry that says 'single' or recovery. That should get you a boot prompt where you can fsck any disk
[00:49] <yellowrooster> i installed  libdvdread4. then i did  sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[00:49] <joshjjjj> hi folks, can anyone tell me how to add a biosflash.img (an image to upgrade bios) to grub2 ? I just cant get it.
[00:49] <phix> tvaughn: ok so your X is failing to start? so your computer isnt crashing just the Graphical login screen?
[00:49] <joshjjjj> please
[00:49] <phix> tvaughn: that is a bit more helpful then It crashes
[00:49] <Crash1hd> losha: ok there is a command on shutdown that checks the drives as well (what is that command again?) wouldnt mind runnig it first
[00:49] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[00:50] <spiffman> yellowrooster tried using vlc?
[00:50] <tvaughn> phix: not entirely sure
[00:50] <yellowrooster> spiffman: yes
[00:50] <justine777w> E: Unable to write mmap - msync (28 No space left on device)
[00:50] <justine777w> E: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened.
[00:50] <justine777w> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[00:50] <yellowrooster> ok. it seems to be working now spiffman.
[00:50] <tvaughn> it works underfailsafe
[00:50] <yellowrooster> weird
[00:50] <robert__> is there somewhere to get a copy of scanmodem?
[00:50] <phix> tvaughn: oh so you dont know ifyou can see the graphical login screen?  Are you visually impared?
[00:50] <spiffman> yellowrooster lol awesome, that was quick
[00:50] <LjL> justine777w: that seems to be saying that your hard drive is full...?
[00:50] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[00:50] <robert__> is there somewhere to get a copy of scanmodem?
[00:51] <losha> Crash1hd: you can do: touch /forcefsck in 8.04. Dunno if it still works in 9.04 though....
[00:51] <blooddiamond> hi
[00:51] <jonzbcc> someone try: `cd ~/Desktop; nautilus ./` -if you use gnome, and tellme if you get errors?
[00:51] <tvaughn> the graphical login screen is there, you try to login and it tries to load then crashes back to the graphical login screen
[00:51] <phix> tvaughn: ok
[00:51] <yellowrooster> spiffman: yeah. and i did nothing between time it did not work and time it now works.
[00:51] <yellowrooster> spiffman: thanks!
[00:51] <yellowrooster> time to enjoy the dvd
[00:51] <phix> tvaughn: that is more useful
[00:51] <prettyhatem> anyone know how to setup a multi sessions with one user being logged in via vnc and the other user being logged in with a display?
[00:51] <Crash1hd> losha: ahh ok I thought the command was someting with a -f in it
[00:52] <jonzbcc> someone try: `cd ~/Desktop; nautilus ./` -if you use gnome, and tellme if you get errors?
[00:52] <starcannon> prettyhatem turn remote desktop sharing on with the user that needs access, then "Switch User" to your session that should do it
[00:52] <robert__> thanks everyone
[00:53] <Lostinspace_46> During an install, I got this msg...Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable...since I get this a lot, I better learn how to handle it.  Any takers?
[00:53] <losha> Retro198909: I thought you pay shipping back to newegg even for DOAs. In which case I'd want to be sure before I returned it. Btw, the samsungs seem to get good reviews. I use them myself...
[00:53] <Crash1hd> losha: oh I was thinking of #shutdown -rF now
[00:53] <starcannon> prettyhatem *note* I have not actually done it, but that "should" work
[00:54] <losha> Crash1hd: in my 9.10 system, shutdown doesn't seem to have a -F switch per the man page...
[00:54] <prettyhatem> starcannon doing this will allow both users to keep being logged in and able to use their desktops?
[00:54] <justine777w> I know it says that i have full disk but i was told that i dont. I do not know how to fix this. I also can not update anything and i have broken packages which i can not fix
[00:54] <starcannon> prettyhatem I believe so long as you use the fast user switcher agent it should work yes
[00:54] <prettyhatem> k thanks a ton
[00:54] <starcannon> prettyhatem be sure not to log the other account out, come back and ask again if it does not work
[00:55] <prettyhatem> k i will try
[00:56] <selected_fx> helllo
[00:56] <justine777w> hi
[00:56] <selected_fx> is it posible to install wirelles driver with wine
[00:56] <selected_fx> ?
[00:56] <selected_fx> ?
[00:56] <berrybarry> selected_fx what chipset you have?
[00:56] <selected_fx> neatgear usb
[00:56] <justine777w> how do i know which partition i am running?
[00:57] <StevenLiu> HI
[00:57] <berrybarry> selected_fx ha everythings in google the model is useful ill help :)
[00:57] <StevenLiu> is there a ubuntu netbook remix src tar?
[00:57] <starcannon> selected_fx if it is not being enabled using System>Administration>Hardware Drivers, then you may try ndiswrapper; heres some good documentation:https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper
[00:58] <selected_fx> thanls
[00:58] <mazda01> my desktop icons disappeared and not sure when! how do I get them back?
[00:58] <starcannon> oops sorry, berrybarry is helping you
[00:58] <ardchoille> mazda01: do you have a right click menu on the desktop?
[00:58] <spiderbatdad> justine777w, mount
[00:59] <berrybarry> starcannon been trying to help people ha but everything above my head ha
[00:59] <justine777w> How do I view what partition I am using?
[00:59] <mazda01> ardchoille, nope. what's weird is that conky is running fine
[00:59] <Crash1hd> losha: well it seemed to work and now its doing a check (going to take awhile as it was at 3% for the big drive  if you are still around when its all done I will let you know how it goes
[00:59] <jonzbcc> justine777w: fdisk -l (will need sudo)
[00:59] <ardchoille> mazda01: Nautilus manages the desktop icons and right click menu. Restart nautilus and see if that helps.
[00:59] <justine777w> thank you
[00:59] <losha> Crash1hd: good luck...
[00:59] <jonzbcc> justine777w: actually `df -ah`
[00:59] <mazda01> ardchoille, what, sudo /etc/init.d/nautilus restart?
[01:00] <Lostinspace_46> If software X. (dependency)installs with no .pc file how can the dependent program find X.
[01:00] <ardchoille> mazda01: no, just start up a nautilus window
[01:00] <Lenin_Cat> x org wont restart
[01:00] <ardchoille> mazda01: And don't use sudo for anything unless  you know you actually need it
[01:01] <mman> hey!! im just installing ubuntu for the first time, and im having some troubles with grub, could you please help me?
[01:01] <starcannon> mazda01: you could try in a terminal: gconftool -s /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop -t bool true
[01:01] <mazda01> ardchoille, i am aware of when to use sudo. I've been using debian based linux for over 5 years now. I wasn't sure if nautilus had a startup script for controlling the desktop icons. starting a nautilus window didn't do anything.
[01:02] <mman> anyone?:P
[01:02] <ardchoille> mazda01: did you somehow turn off the desktop?
[01:02] <EastDallas> mman could you be more specific?
[01:02] <mazda01> starcannon, that was it but conky went away. I know how to restart that though.
[01:02] <mazda01> ardchoille, not on purpose. HA HA
[01:02] <abuqutaita> guys, i've been reading for 30 min or so, and i'm still pretty confused about LVM :(
[01:03] <starcannon> mazda01: good
[01:03] <ardchoille> mazda01: yeah, looks like you turned off the desktop at some point, thanks starcannon
[01:03] <starcannon> np, np :)
[01:03] <abuqutaita> anyone set up an LVM before?
[01:03] <mman> well, i installed ubuntu after windows xp, but then I couldnt boot ubuntu, so i went into the live cd and tried something, then i restarted and i just have like a shell that starts with grub
[01:03] <DasEi> abuqutaita: I did
[01:04] <cast> abuqutaita: yes.
[01:04] <mazda01> starcannon, my .conkylaunch script didn't restart conky.
[01:04] <berrybarry> well maybe someone can resolve this issue, I got a message saying disk has many bad sectors... I ran tests and its fine, what do I do
[01:04] <justine777w> after i find out which partition i am running i was told to run sudo fsck -a /dev/sda2 but it says it is risky? I am trying to fix the No space left on device problem. Will that fix it?
[01:04] <starcannon> mazda01: I don't use conky so I dunno, sorry :(
[01:04] <lazyPower> berrybarry, tried fscking the disk?
[01:04] <abuqutaita> cast: could you help me out with some setup issues i'm having?
[01:04] <EastDallas> mman:  what do you mean by "so i went into the live cd and tried something"?
[01:04] <DasEi> berrybarry: install smartmontools and also rune2fsck from live
[01:04] <yellowrooster> hi. i did this: sudo apt-get install totem-xine. but  when i run "totem-xine", i get "command not found." pls help
[01:04] <DasEi> run*
[01:05] <ardchoille> mazda01: I use conky, but I don't use a script to launch it. What does your script do?
[01:05] <cast> abuqutaita: maybe.
[01:05] <abuqutaita> cast: alright, heh.
[01:05] <mman> well, i boot from the live cd, and mounted the partition where linux was instaled
[01:05] <abuqutaita> i have 5 HDDs in this system, 80, 160, 250, 250, and 320gb
[01:06] <abuqutaita> i'll use the 80gb for all system stuff, but i wanted to use the other 4 for storage
[01:06] <mazda01> ardchoille, it does this, http://pastebin.com/f468ecd86
[01:06] <mman> then i did a backup of the MBR and then installe the grub again in the MBR, I restarted and the "grub shell" appeared
[01:06] <abuqutaita> i'm assuming just concatenating the 4 disks using an LVM is my best option here
[01:06] <justine777w> ﻿after i find out which partition i am running i was told to run sudo fsck -a /dev/sda2 but it says it is risky? I am trying to fix the No space left on device problem. Will that fix it?
[01:06] <berrybarry> DasEi I have smartmontools installed
[01:07] <ardchoille> mazda01: Is there any particular reason you need conky to wait before launching?
[01:07] <mazda01> ardchoille, it runs, nevermind. it just took awhile because of the sleep command
[01:07] <jonzbcc> justine777w: what exactly is wrong?
[01:07] <ardchoille> mazda01: ok
[01:07] <abuqutaita> cast: is that true?
[01:07] <justine777w> jonzbcc- i can not update anything and i have broken packages and it says i do not have space left on device
[01:08] <EastDallas> yellowrooster: I believe the command is still 'totem' even if you're running the xine version.
[01:08] <spiderbatdad> justine777w, dont run fsck on a mount partition. use a tool like gaparted live to adjust volume sizes
[01:08] <jonzbcc> justine777w: it says you *don't* have space, but you do?
[01:08] <cast> abuqutaita: i wouldn't.
[01:08] <abuqutaita> cast: then?
[01:08] <yellowrooster> yellowrooster: i see. i am looking at the "about totem movie player" window. and it still says "movie player using GStreamer 0.10.25", even after I installed totem-xine. why?
[01:08] <mman> EastDallas, did you get what I said?
[01:08] <justine777w> jonzbcc: yes thats what i was told. I have a whole forum on it.
[01:09] <EastDallas> mman: researching....
[01:09] <justine777w> spiderbatdad: i do not understand
[01:09] <jonzbcc> justine777w: you started a whole thread?
[01:09] <mman> thanks ;)
[01:09] <grkblood13> i have a long radio show track where one of the guys on the mic is louder there everyone else. is there a way no bring all the levels on the track to around the same amplitude with audacity?
[01:09] <justine777w> jonzbcc: yes i did. want the link?
[01:09] <cast> abuqutaita: disks fail all the time
[01:09] <jonzbcc> justine777w: sure
[01:09] <justine777w> jonzbcc: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/yelp/+question/93989
[01:09] <LinuxGuy2009> Hello does anyone know if there are any apps that can interpret a good brainfuck? Only beef?
[01:09] <mazda01> ardchoille, so the desktop can load. i read about it on ubuntuforums
[01:10] <abuqutaita> cast: then what to do?
[01:10] <ardchoille> mazda01: I used conky in gnome and didn't need anything like that, conky just ran normally with the default command upon autostart
[01:10] <mazda01> ardchoille, now I know you think my desktop didn't load because of my conky script but i can assure you that I have been running this conky setup since feisty and I have never had a desktop problem. not sure why it was off?
[01:11] <nohup> good evening all :)
[01:11] <mazda01> ardchoille, maybe it runs ok now but i remember back in feisty i had to do it for some reason
[01:11] <DasEi> berrybarry: did you get my last message ?
[01:11] <cast> abuqutaita: whatever suits your purpose
[01:11] <ardchoille> mazda01: Ah, ok. You might check your conky now that you're on a newer release and see if you need that script.
[01:11] <nohup> i just did an apt-get upgrade on my server.. and it updated my linux-image-2.6.28-17 package... after which it won't boot anymore ("error running install command for fuse")
[01:12] <nohup> is this a known problem/bug ? and does anyone know how to fix it ?
[01:12] <nohup> i can still boot using other kernels... but none of them support my hardware...
[01:12] <mazda01> ardchoille, something about the background image not appearing also. i don't remember why exactly
[01:12] <LinuxGuy2009> nohup: Ubuntu is full of bugs actually.
[01:12] <justine777w> jonzbcc: i also have a huge red circle with a white line thru it where the update manager is
[01:12] <ardchoille> mazda01: nautilus also manages the wallpaper
[01:12] <nohup> LinuxGuy2009: everything is.. but that doesn't help me much :)
[01:12] <berrybarry> DasEi I typed rune2fsck in google got no searches and could I type that in ternimal in ubuntu without live?
[01:12] <abuqutaita> cast: it's going to just be a file server... but not for backups
[01:12] <nohup> i'd just like the kernel to boot again...
[01:13] <LinuxGuy2009> nohup: The debian version of whatever app your using will be very stable.
[01:13] <nohup> yes, awesome..
[01:13] <nohup> this server runs ubuntu
[01:13] <nohup> not debian :)
[01:13] <mazda01> ardchoille, i am running conky 1.6.1-0ubuntu4, i'll look into running conky without sleep at some point. thanks
[01:13] <mman> EastDallas, I could boot with the live cd, and from there reinstall grub
[01:13] <mazda01> gotta go now. bye everyone
[01:13] <berrybarry> DasEi no I did not get last message
[01:13] <workstation> so It seems I am missing   "grub-update" script on my Ubuntu 9.10 install. Is there a way to install this script?
[01:13] <lazyPower> nohup, i'm not aware of this bug. And thats very strange, sorry to hear that.
[01:14] <EastDallas> mman, were you getting the windows boot menu first then a message that said 'loading grub' if you chose ubuntu before you messed with the MBR?
[01:14] <nohup> lazyPower: it kinda looks like something broke in the initrd image or something...
[01:14] <nohup> sadly i don't think ubuntu keeps backups of those images before upgrading them... so i guess i'm screwed ?
[01:15] <drunkpunk> hey all googled everywhere to find a definitive sloution to longstandin prob getting sound on remote desktop - the questions - is it possible, if so, how??? any help 'preciated muchly
[01:15] <lazyPower> i wouldn't think you're screwed...
[01:15] <jonzbcc> justine777w: i'm still reading, but I think i'm at the part of advice that was given about ""
[01:15] <Dmole> jrib: mpd+mpc looks perfect but it's not working for me... did you have to do anything after install?
[01:15] <justine777w> jonbcc: given about what?
[01:15] <lazyPower> can you boot a live cd and re-do the update?
[01:15] <Flannel> workstation: Do you have update-grub?
[01:15] <mman> EastDallas: no, at the very first it just booted windows directly, no option to boot grub or ubuntu, so then I did what I said, now it appears like a shell like grub
[01:16] <DasEi> berrybarry: the utility smartmontools provides let's you check for bad sectors and also updates the hd's - self report
[01:16] <nohup> lazyPower: nope.. can't use any other boot device...
[01:16] <jonzbcc> hello, okay, i didn't see anything after my last message, I had to disconnect
[01:16] <nohup> it boots from an usb stick...
[01:16] <spiderbatdad> justine777w, have you been able to boot the live cd and run fsck?
[01:16] <workstation> Flannel, yes
[01:16] <EastDallas> mman is Ubuntu installed in it's own partition, or a virtual partition?
[01:16] <lazyPower> nohup, then from what i tell, you very well may be. but i'm by no means a master. My dark voodoo only goes so far :P
[01:16] <_cb> lsusb does not consistenlty detect my usb headphones. Any ideas?
[01:16] <berrybarry> DasEi ok sounds like a plan, what do I type in ternimal?
[01:16] <nohup> i have no cd/hdd or whatsoever in it.. but i CAN boot another image..
[01:16] <spiderbatdad> Jonzbcc sorry thought you left
[01:16] <mman> EastDallas own partition
[01:16] <justine777w> spiderbatdad: I do not know what that means. I was told to do that but I do not know how. I tried and It did not work
[01:17] <lazyPower> nohup, right with zero hardware support right?
[01:17] <workstation> Flannel, wow, how silly do I feel
[01:17] <workstation> Flannel, thank you
[01:17] <justine777w> jonbbc: just let me know if you need anymore information
[01:17] <LinuxGuy2009> Is Ubuntu Server edition based on the same packages and repos as the desktop version?
[01:17] <nohup> lazyPower: hehe, not zero.. it just doesn't recognize the wifi... so i don't have internet :)
[01:17] <Flannel> workstation: No worries :)
[01:17] <jonzbcc> spiderbatdad: np, more help the better.
[01:17] <LinuxGuy2009> I mean the same unstable packages.
[01:17] <nohup> well.. i can fiddle with that and get masquarade working through my laptop
[01:17] <workstation> Flannel, I do have another question.
[01:17] <nat2610> !clone
[01:18] <lazyPower> nohup, lol. well... what about a USB stick?cant you boot a live image from USB?
[01:18] <lazyPower> then mount the hdd, and chroot into it and re-apply the update that way?
[01:18] <jonzbcc> justine777w: they're suggesting you boot from a livecd, before I tell you "download one" , can you post the output of the following to a pastebin (eg pastebin.com): `df -ah`
[01:18] <justine777w> jonzbcc: pastebin?
[01:18] <workstation> Flannel, If I mount a partition that contains the /boot/grub folder and files, would I be able to run "update-grub" on that partition while mounted on it?
[01:18] <jonzbcc> justine777w: yes, visit http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[01:19] <jonzbcc> justine777w: run `df -ah` in your command line, and pate the output to that^ website, then show us the link
[01:19] <Flannel> update-grub looks for /boot/grub, so if you mount "boot/grub" at "/", then yes.
[01:19] <workstation> Flannel, great, thanks
[01:19] <_BLACK_MAN_> Hello
[01:19] <DasEi> berrybarry: it's a time ago I had to do that, looking myself for my note, see man smartctl meanwhile
[01:19] <_BLACK_MAN_> black man her
[01:19] <_BLACK_MAN_> black man here
[01:19] <_BLACK_MAN_> i enjoy using ubuntu
[01:19] <FloodBot2> _BLACK_MAN_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:19] <EastDallas> mman:  I know you didn't reinstall windows, but I think this tutorial might help you with your problem: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7
[01:20] <justine777w> jonzbcc: done
[01:20] <_BLACK_MAN_> i highly enjoy the use of ubuntu
[01:20] <salvo> hi there, I am looking for some help concerning the nvidia driver, after installation i get a black screen...
[01:20] <jonzbcc> justine777w: okay, so now you have to give us the link ot that page
[01:20] <_BLACK_MAN_> salvo
[01:20] <spiderbatdad> justine777w, linky?
[01:20] <_BLACK_MAN_> that is a common error
[01:20] <_BLACK_MAN_> you need install ORT-8a subset protocols
[01:20] <justine777w> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/342269/
[01:20] <berrybarry> DasEi ok?
[01:20] <Fjodor> Hi, does anyone know of a ppa repo that provies fuse 2.8.x?
[01:21]  * airtonix wishs pastebinit was installed by default
[01:21] <LinuxGuy2009> nohup: Ubuntu server seem as buggy as desktop? I just wonder how they compare as far as stability goes. Just as many bugs? Use the same repos as the desktop repos?
[01:21] <DasEi> berrybarry: first enable smart on that drive
[01:21] <feed_me_seymour> Anyone know if there's an IRC support channel for Evolution?
[01:21] <Flannel> _BLACK_MAN_: Please stop
[01:21] <jonzbcc> justine777w: do you have an external media (say a thumb drive) or a bigger thing of usb somewhere?
[01:21] <spiderbatdad> lol
[01:21] <CEO> hello all, im very new to linux and i installed the latest ubuntu server but also i insatlled the xubuntu dekstop, i read in the ubuntu webpage that the ubuntu desktop version  have different kernel configuration than the server one, so if  i installed the xubuntu desktop im i gonna keep the server kernel?
[01:21] <justine777w> jonzbcc: i dont think so
[01:21] <spiderbatdad> justine777w, your partition is only 3.7?
[01:21] <mman> EastDallas, so either i don it from windows or live cd right?
[01:21] <berrybarry> DasEi I believe I already did that... and that command is? thx
[01:21] <salvo> is there somebody able to give me some real advice...
[01:21] <justine777w> spiderbatdad: i know.
[01:22] <Flannel> CEO: Correct, but you can switch your kernel (from -server to -generic) if you want as well
[01:22] <losha> airtonix: well, it's just an apt-get away, isn't it?
[01:22] <mr_engineer> is everything ok if xorg uses 129 MiB of RAM?
[01:22] <jonzbcc> justine777w: you have to give your root (/) partition some of that space your "home" is taking up.
[01:22] <EastDallas> mman:  look at option 3
[01:22] <jonzbcc> spiderbatdad: do you know how to do that?
[01:22] <justine777w> jonzbcc: how do i do that
[01:22] <marks256> anyone know of an alternative to GnuDIP? It's basically a server like dyndns
[01:22] <EastDallas> mman:  you can get to the grub> prompt right?
[01:23] <berrybarry> DasEi on a dial up internet connection ha?
[01:23] <CEO> thanks flannel
[01:23] <spiderbatdad> justine777w, lets see # sudo fdisk -l
[01:23] <EastDallas> mman:  I believe you choose one of those three options.
[01:23] <tvaughn> did anyone have an answer for my login problem
[01:23] <mman> EastDallas, yes im having the grub> promt, but the problem i get is that the command "fiind" appears as unknown
[01:23] <justine777w> spiderbatdad: paste in paste site?
[01:23] <CEO> one more question. If i want to install gcc i can do it via cd-rom? in case  i dont have a internet connection
[01:23] <spiderbatdad> yes
[01:24] <EastDallas> mman:  Then I guess you'll have to use one of the other options
[01:24] <Flannel> CEO: Yeah, build-essential is on the CDrom
[01:24] <tvaughn> phix: did you know how i can find whats wrong?
[01:24] <spiderbatdad> jonzbcc, i would use gparted live myself cause im a perpetual noob
[01:24] <justine777w> spiderbatdad: do i use the #?>
[01:24] <DasEi> berrybarry: sudo smartctl -s on /dev/WhatEver       (sudo fdisk -l lists your drives) ((no, shot my vm))
[01:24] <spiderbatdad> justine777w, command is sudo fdisk -l
[01:24] <Flannel> CEO: Afer you install, put the CD back in, and then add it to your repositories (Ubuntu will do this automatically, I don't know if xubuntu does, but you can use `apt-cdrom add -`) then apt-get update, and apt-get install build-essential
[01:25] <workstation> Flannel, even so, that will only populate the partitions on the laptop hd, not the usb hd.
[01:25] <jonzbcc> spiderbatdad: that's fine, but can you resize partitions without estroying data?
[01:25] <justine777w> spiderbatdad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342273/
[01:25] <spiderbatdad> there are probably more efficient ways like dd but idk
[01:25] <CEO> thanks flannel
[01:25] <CEO> :)
[01:26] <spiderbatdad> jonzbcc, thats what gparted live does...shrink one grow the other
[01:26] <EastDallas> mman:  I'm pretty sure that when you install ubuntu after windows it still starts with (windows) ntldr, and displays the windows boot menu.  It only goes to grub after you choose Ubuntu.  (someone correct me if I'm wrong as this might only be the case with virtual partitions.)
[01:26] <CEO> see yaa all
[01:26] <mike330404> #ubuntu-mythtv
[01:26] <tvaughn> i have a problem when i try to login to my computer running 9.10, the graphical login screen is there, you try to login and it tries to load then crashes back to the graphical login screen
[01:26] <jonzbcc> spiderbatdad: syeah, but without destroying data? I've never done it to my own filesystem, only to external devices.
[01:26] <berrybarry> DasEi which do I want? HPFS/NTFS EXTENDED LINUX OR LINUX SWAP /SOLARIS
[01:27] <spiderbatdad> jonzbcc, I have used it successfully many times
[01:27] <jonzbcc> spiderbatdad: doesn't it also look like one of sda1 and sda3 aren't even being used
[01:27] <arkanabar> I need an archive manager to handle .rar archives, and the default one doesn't work.
[01:27] <mman> EastDallas, after reinstaling grub, now appears this "grub shell"
[01:27] <jonzbcc> spiderbatdad: or 1 & 3 rather
[01:27] <Fezzler> Can't seem to get sound running under wine
[01:28] <mman> EastDallas, i will try the live cd option
[01:28] <arkanabar> Fezzler, you have to run winecfg and select a sound server -- I suggest ALSA
[01:28] <spiderbatdad> jonzbcc, not according to fdisk
[01:28] <EastDallas> mman: try the live cd option
[01:28] <mman> EastDallas, i will tell you, let me try, thanks for now!!!! ;)
[01:28] <DasEi> berrybarry: more than one drive ?
[01:28] <mman> best idea to change to ubuntu :D
[01:28] <jonzbcc> well, fdisk is showing devices, I think df actually shows whats mounted
[01:28] <jonzbcc> spiderbatdad: ^AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
[01:28] <EastDallas> mman good luck!
[01:28] <jonzbcc> spiderbatdad: (sorry about the "A")
[01:28] <berrybarry> DasEi I have dual boot with windows
[01:29] <DasEi> df is diskfree, mount shows mounted, jonzbcc
[01:29] <DasEi> berrybarry: which reported errors ?
[01:29] <spiderbatdad> jonzbcc, swap and hpfs
[01:29] <Fezzler> arkanabar>> In winecfg, Audio tab, ALSA Driver checked, Test Sound does produce sound - but app doesn't
[01:29] <berrybarry> DasEi Ubuntu has the bad sectors..
[01:30] <night> ohai
[01:30] <DasEi> berrybarry: device is called ?
[01:30] <arkanabar> Fezzler, have you read up on your app at appdb.winehq.org ?
[01:30] <jonzbcc> spiderbatdad: oh right, okay, ignore me -also, DasEi's right
[01:30] <berrybarry> DasEi I assume its Linux sda5
[01:30] <DasEi> berrybarry: sda so, it's hd not partition
[01:30] <spiderbatdad> jonzbcc, i'm sure you're more capable of the two of us so i wouldnt ignore you
[01:30] <Fezzler> arkanabar>> No, I will do that.   Notes there on running apps under wine?
[01:30] <DasEi> berrybarry: sudo smartctl -s on /dev/sda
[01:30] <salvo> hi there, I got the black screen of death after installing the nvidia drivers, anybody can help?
[01:31] <justine777w> spiderbatdad - jonzbcc - dasEi - so what do i do?
[01:31] <arkanabar> Fezzler, you bet.  Without it, I would never have gotten Ventrilo working.  Or WoW.
[01:31] <Fezzler> arkanabar>> New to win.  Installed to use Reaper to record guitar.  Not going well.
[01:31] <berrybarry> DasEi thx its enable
[01:31] <ubuntu> hello
[01:31] <jonzbcc> justine777w: i'm thinking (and reading some of your thread again)
[01:31] <justine777w> jonzbcc- okay thanks
[01:31] <DasEi> berrybarry: sudo smartctl --test=long /dev/sda
[01:31] <songer> i wana get effects for the windows
[01:31] <Rafael> I'm trying to save my WD External HDD
[01:32] <DasEi> berrybarry: size of the hd ?
[01:32] <Rafael> It wont mount
[01:32] <Rafael> and I want to save the files I have there
[01:32] <spiderbatdad> justine777w, I would burn a copy of gparted live...boot from it and shrink the ajoining partition and expand / into.
[01:32] <Rafael> I get to see it on the disk utility
[01:32] <DasEi> Rafael: sudo fdisk -l finds it ?
[01:32] <Rafael> but only part of it
[01:32] <Rafael> it has 2 partitions
[01:32] <berrybarry> DasEi I have 90gbs free
[01:32] <jonzbcc> justine777w: well, if the thread's suggestion works, you'll be in the clear: that's booting externally (like from a LiveCD) and then running the `fsck` to repair the system on your computer.
[01:32] <justine777w> spiderbatdad: i do not understand
[01:33] <DasEi> berrybarry: Iasked for the whole disk to determine time for test
[01:33] <Rafael> no it does not show on sudo fdisk -l
[01:33] <justine777w> jonzbcc: can you please explain how to do that?
[01:33] <Rafael> it is on /dev/sdb
[01:33] <berrybarry> DasEi 75mins
[01:33] <arkanabar> FileRoller isn't able to open .rar archives, what should I use?
[01:33] <Rafael> only shows /dev/sda
[01:33] <spiderbatdad> justine777w, booting the gparted live will make things more obvious...have a look and ask questions before risking any changes
[01:33] <jonzbcc> justine777w: I think you should burn a livecd of Ubuntu (not just gparted live).
[01:33] <Fezzler> arkanabar>> My app not in WineHQ
[01:33] <spiderbatdad> justine777w, its just my two cents
[01:33] <DasEi> berrybarry: k, let's try with the short then, abort by ctrl+c
[01:33] <kostkon> arkanabar, install unrar-nonfree first
[01:33] <DasEi> berrybarry: sudo smartctl --test=short /dev/sda
[01:33] <justine777w> jonzbcc: I have the ubuntu 8.04 installation cd...use that?
[01:33] <arkanabar> Fezzler, out of ideas.  Sorry.
[01:33] <airtonix> !who | Rafael
[01:34] <spiderbatdad> justine777w, jonzbcc may have another idea
[01:34] <DasEi> !who | Rafael
[01:34] <Fezzler> arkanabar>> Thanks
[01:34] <drunkpunk> hey all googled everywhere to find a definitive sloution to longstandin prob getting sound on remote desktop - the questions - is it possible, if so, how??? any help 'preciated muchly
[01:34] <arkanabar> kostkon, thanks.
[01:34] <kostkon> arkanabar, and the you'll be able to open rar files with fileroller
[01:34] <kostkon> then*
[01:34] <berrybarry> DasEi 2mins ha cool
[01:34] <drunkpunk> or even a solution*
[01:34] <DasEi> !pm | Rafael
[01:34] <Rafael> DasEi it is on /dev/sdb
[01:34] <jonzbcc> justine777w: you have 2 issues: no space left, and package-errors. correct?
[01:35] <Rafael> DasEi but it wotn show up on sudo fdisk -l
[01:35] <night> 2~
[01:35] <jonzbcc> !livecd | justine777w
[01:35] <DasEi> Rafael: sda and sdb are two hd's , partition nmber ?
[01:35] <Rafael> DasEi: ?
[01:35] <justine777w> jonzbcc: i guess
[01:35] <Rafael> DasEi: yes the sdb is the WD 500GB My passport
[01:35] <Rafael> DasEi: sda is the laptop hdd
[01:35] <vashitn> how can i unmount my partition so i can divide it?
[01:35] <justine777w> ubottu: so use the ubuntu 8.04 cd and click on what option?
[01:35] <DasEi> Rafael: with the firmware on it ?
[01:35] <jonzbcc> justine777w: do you understand what the livecd is? booting from a livecd will allow you to try to tackle both problems.
[01:35] <RedLance> Ok, I have an old DOS BBS door game that I want to put online, so people can play it.  Is there a way I can let people ssh into a box, and have them be able to run an old dos program from the cli?
[01:36] <night> RedLance: yep
[01:36] <night> RedLance: set up sshd
[01:36] <drunkpunk> hey all googled everywhere to find a definitive solution to longstandin prob getting sound on remote desktop - the questions - is it possible, if so, how??? any help 'preciated muchly
[01:36] <Rafael> DasEi: ???
[01:36] <justine777w> jonzbcc: no i do not. i am sorry. i have the ubuntu 8.04 installation cd which has options on it, but i do not know if it the LiveCd?
[01:36] <night> RedLance: and game accounts i guess to all interested
[01:36] <DasEi> Rafael: that hd comes with a firmware I think upbuntu has difficulties with
[01:36] <Rafael> DasEi: on disk utility it shows teh hdd but not all the 500gb
[01:36] <jonzbcc> justine777w: i suggest you do the following: if when you turn on your computer (with your installation cd inserted) you see an option that says "try ubuntu without any changes", then select that
[01:37] <cheeko> is there any downloag manager for ubuntu like the dowmload manager for windows which boosts the down load speed by 300 %
[01:37] <Rafael> DasEi: it didnt have trouble before until I tried partitioning it
[01:37] <cyberworm> anybody using backtrac 4 here?
[01:37] <justine777w> jonzbcc: i was told to do that but i did not see that option. i can try again, but what if i dont see the option and if i do then what after that?
[01:37] <night> cheeko: no dl manager boosts speed by 300%
[01:37] <DasEi> Rafael: sudo fdisk -l
[01:37] <night> cheeko: but you can use curl
[01:37] <RedLance> night, Then what?  Will dosemu work from the command line?
[01:38] <jonzbcc> justine777w: if you don't see a way of booting live, than you'll have to download a copy of the latest ubuntu.iso and make a live cd of it (do this either on a friends machine, or at a library, if there's a cd burner, or if you have a thumb drive of at least 1GB)
[01:38] <DasEi> Rafael: sudo apt-get install pastebinit,    sorry^
[01:38] <vashitn> how can i unmount my partition so i can divide it?
[01:38] <spiderbatdad> jonzbcc, /me headslap I see
[01:38] <night> cheeko: or aria2c
[01:38] <DasEi> Rafael: sudo fdisk -l |  pastebinit
[01:38] <EastDallas> justine77w:  I found it confusing myself at first.  The install CD is the LiveCD.
[01:38] <night> RedLance: well depends, if you set it up good it should work, right?
[01:38] <cyberworm> anybody using backtrack here
[01:38] <justine777w> thanks eastdallas
[01:38] <night> RedLance: i mean if it works on your own box
[01:38] <night> RedLance: it works for everyone connecting to your box
[01:38] <spiderbatdad> jonzbcc, i wasnt looking at the whole disk I thought the partition was full
[01:38] <Dmole> help please, can't get mpc to add/play a file in mpd
[01:38] <cheeko> yes cyberworm
[01:38] <jonzbcc> justine777w: eastdallas is right, but sometimes (I'm pretty sure) you can't boot as a "livecd" as eastdallas says, sometimes its only an installer (i think)
[01:39] <losha> drunkpunk: I don't think it's possible. The only thing I've ever seen do that was rdesktop to a remote windows machine. If you could find an rdesktop server for linux I suppose it might work.
[01:39] <berrybarry> ha can I suggest a idea to developers?
[01:39] <justine777w> jonzbcc: can i download it from my computer? i have a burner and does it have to be 8.04?
[01:39] <night> Dmole: you need to make a playlist
[01:39] <DasEi> cyberworm: it's based on intrepid, any ubuntu-question ?
[01:39] <RedLance> night, I thought dosemu only worked under X?
[01:39] <jonzbcc> justine777w: no, you can use the latest version of ubuntu
[01:39] <Rafael> pastebinit?
[01:39] <night> Dmole: actually, you need to make a dot file aka mpd's config that has dir of your music stored
[01:39] <Dmole> night: how? there is nothing in man mpc about that
[01:39] <kostkon> cheeko, check http://netfleet.sourceforge.net/
[01:39] <DasEi> !paste | Rafael, and mind who
[01:39] <Dmole> night: got that
[01:39] <night> RedLance: never tried, but i know for a fact you can forward X via shell
[01:39] <justine777w> jonzbcc: okay. where do i go to get the download?
[01:39] <berrybarry> DasEi its been 2 mins...
[01:39] <jonzbcc> justine777w: here's the part to remember (for the time that you're booted of a livecd).. try the fsck (just as they suggested in your thread)
[01:40] <kostkon> cheeko, or http://multiget.sourceforge.net/
[01:40] <Rafael> DasEi, im using the live cd
[01:40] <drunkpunk> losha: so it aint poss on VNC?
[01:40] <Rafael> DasEi, it didint find it
[01:40] <DasEi> berrybarry: let it finish
[01:40] <jonzbcc> justine777w: ubuntu.com's home page will have it
[01:40] <DasEi> Rafael: ah
[01:40] <justine777w> jonzbcc: i do not know how to try the fsck
[01:40] <Dmole> night: can it play music from outside the path in the config?
[01:40] <mesutcimeken> hi people
[01:40] <losha> drunkpunk: as far as I know, vnc doesn't do sound....
[01:40] <night> Dmole: no
[01:40] <spiderbatdad> no sda4 has 79G available
[01:40] <mesutcimeken> me again
[01:40] <RedLance> night, Hmmm, ok, I'll give it a shot, thanks!
[01:40] <night> Dmole: np
[01:40] <mesutcimeken> yesterday i said my sound problem
[01:40] <DasEi> Rafael: did you try to format the external from live ?
[01:40] <jonzbcc> justine777w: can I pm you? this is nauseating with all this chatter
[01:40] <Dmole> night: thanks testing...
[01:40] <justine777w> jonzbcc: yes
[01:40] <Rafael> DasEi, it wont show up on gparted
[01:41] <drunkpunk> losha: cheers mate, that kinda confirms my suspicions
[01:41] <mesutcimeken> and i get some helped, thanks
[01:41] <DasEi> Rafael: did you try to format the external from live ?
[01:41] <jonzbcc> justine777w: just a sec.
[01:41] <night> Dmole: check ubuntu wiki on mpd (if there is one) or archlinux wiki, there's a really good wiki entry on setting up mpd
[01:41] <berrybarry> ha can I suggest a idea to developers? a command that atomatically gives you a pastebin url with ternimal screen ha
[01:41] <mesutcimeken> but still i have no sound in my laptop
[01:41] <night> berrybarry: there's wgetpaste
[01:41] <DasEi> berrybarry: pastebinit
[01:41] <night> :)
[01:41] <DasEi> heh
[01:41] <arkanabar> kostkon, that worked.  Thank you.
[01:41] <drunkpunk> losha: any recommendations for an alternative to try?
[01:41] <cheeko> thanks guys
[01:41] <kostkon> arkanabar, :)
[01:42] <losha> mesutcimeken: what os version?
[01:42] <drunkpunk> losha: baring in mind i'm a total n00b user
[01:42] <mesutcimeken> this websiteshttp://www.opensound.com/wiki/index.php/Tips_And_Tricks#OSSLIBDIR
[01:42] <night> any of you guys using twitter?
[01:42] <berrybarry> night fb ha
[01:42] <DasEi> Rafael: ?
[01:42] <drunkpunk> night: yup
[01:42] <night> berrybarry: ?
[01:42] <Rafael> DasEi, http://pastebin.com/d42b4a019
[01:42] <night> drunkpunk: could you test my lil script for me?
[01:42] <berrybarry> night facebook
[01:42] <losha> drunkpunk: nothing I know of that does remote sound, sorry...
[01:42] <Rafael> DasEi: It will not show up on gparted.
[01:42] <Fezzler> What is "Jack" or "Jack Control" as related to audio.  Alternative driver to ALSA OSS?
[01:42] <elfranne> I am running Vbox 3.1 on ubuntu 9.10 trying to mount a raw partition but after grub i got error 15 ... any idea ?
[01:42] <mesutcimeken> i dont  know
[01:42] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, no sound at all? what have you tried so far?
[01:43] <night> drunkpunk: http://github.com/n1ght/clitter/
[01:43] <mesutcimeken> i read and installed what it says
[01:43] <losha> mesutcimeken: open a terminal and type cat /etc/issue
[01:43] <dyh> hello
[01:43] <night> berrybarry: ah no fb...
[01:43] <EastDallas> justine777w torrent is the fastest way to download the install CD: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#bt
[01:43] <airtonix> Fezzler, Jack is an alternative to pulseaudio.
[01:43] <drunkpunk> night: what's it do mate?
[01:43] <mesutcimeken> just a second
[01:43] <DasEi> Rafael: If I get you right, the external is empty by now and you want to save your laptop to it ?
[01:43] <night> i wrote ages ago this script for twitter.. even forgot about it
[01:43] <night> drunkpunk: basically enables you to send tweet's from cli
[01:43] <night> drunkpunk: clitter == cli twitter
[01:43] <airtonix> Fezzler, it's an audio multiplexer
[01:43] <Fezzler> airtonix>> What is pulseaudio?  What are they for?
[01:44] <night> Fezzler: PA is evil. don't use that.
[01:44] <starcannon> lol night, considering the past tense of a tweet, your cli name is hysterical
[01:44] <Fezzler> airtonix>> multiplexer?
[01:44] <airtonix> Fezzler, think of it as a mixer for various sound drivers
[01:44] <losha> drunkpunk: you know, I wouldn't run a total stranger's script even if you paid me...
[01:44] <Rafael> DasEi: No, the external hdd has two or should have two partitions, one with all my personal data and another one with my laptop backup
[01:44] <night> Fezzler: well actually you're forced to use pa
[01:44] <Flare-Laptop> !pulseaudio | Fezzler
[01:44] <Fezzler> night PA?
[01:44] <mesutcimeken> this is what terminal says
[01:44] <jiffe99> is there a way I can make hardlinks to directories?
[01:44] <Rafael> DasEi: the personal data is fat32, the backup is ntfs
[01:44] <mesutcimeken> cat is /bin/cat
[01:44] <mesutcimeken> bash: type: /etc/issue: not found
[01:44] <night> starcannon: yeah clitter was intended to sound funny :D
[01:44] <night> Fezzler: pulseaudio. it's a really messy soundserver, unfortunately integrated deeply in ubuntu
[01:45] <kostkon> night, messy? right...
[01:45] <mesutcimeken> and now my output icon from the bar has been gone also
[01:45] <kostkon> night, i mean... wrong
[01:45] <Fezzler> Mainly, I'm trying to determine best sound recorder for laying down real guitar and software drums and other - mulit-track
[01:45] <night> kostkon: well it is, innit. i mean, integration... it's all so... messy
[01:45] <losha> mesutcimeken: sorry, I can't help you...
[01:45] <drunkpunk> losha: lol cheers for the heads up
[01:45] <Rafael> DasEi: I want to be able to transfer my personal data to another hdd and format and clean the malfunctioning one
[01:46] <night> Fezzler: for serious multimedia work i'd suggest you make a win partition :)
[01:46] <Fezzler> Audacity is easy but Overdub produces "clicking" sound on second track
[01:46] <kostkon> night, no. just some apps don't support it yet.
[01:46] <Fezzler> night  100% Ubuntu PC
[01:46] <night> kostkon: no, pa is evil. and soon you will see the light.
[01:46] <losha> night: I don't think it's appropriate to ask strangers to run scripts for you on this channel....
[01:46] <DasEi> Rafael: connected via usb ?
[01:46] <genii> mesutcimeken: The command is:   cat /etc/issue            and NOT: type cat /etc/issue
[01:46] <Rafael> DasEi: yes
[01:46] <DasEi> Rafael: sudo lsusb
[01:47] <night> losha: source code is public, they can check it.. and i need testers :D
[01:47] <mesutcimeken> i like ubuntu and i am a beginner but this program has soo many problem and  i tired to fix it with hepl from the troubble list websites
[01:47] <Fezzler> So for beginner - stick with ALSA and avoid Jack?  Seem complex to set up
[01:47] <night> losha: nothing wrong with that, innit?
[01:47] <losha> genii: ah, I wondered how he got that wrong
[01:47] <mesutcimeken> but soo may solution but no one works
[01:47] <losha> night: on a faceboot channel maybe, but not here...
[01:47] <mesutcimeken> maybe i couldnt do that?
[01:47] <EastDallas> fezzler:  some programs require jack, but, yeah, they are more advanced for the most part.
[01:47] <Rafael> DasEi: this is the one http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Passport-Essential-WDBAAA5000ABK-NESN/dp/B002KG2LOA/ref=sr_1_1/182-5849312-1523428?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1260928046&sr=8-1
[01:47] <EastDallas> !info ardour
[01:47] <night> losha: because of what exactly?
[01:48] <genii> losha: I wrote the typo in the explanation for that reason :)
[01:48] <feifongwong> Question: new to ubuntu, - 9.10 amd64 advanced install: I have a 750GB HD. want to set up 1 system partition: got 25GB "/" main system drive, 10GB "swap". question is I want to set the rest of the drive as just storage, unsure on what mount point to use for this? I come from the windows world. thx
[01:48] <Flannel> feifongwong: /home is where all of 'your' stuff goes, so that'd be a prime candidate
[01:48] <losha> night: because periodically we get people trying to foist malicious scripts on unsuspecting users, and i don't know you from Adam...
[01:48] <feifongwong> Flannel ok thanks, will try it out
[01:48] <Rafael> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/d623dee43
[01:49] <night> losha: im on archlinux actually... and like i said, it's hosted on github and code is public... so if someone doesn't trust me they can just check the code prior to running
[01:50] <berrybarry> DasEi its been 2 mins.. ha
[01:50] <drunkpunk> night: it aint so much that i dont trust you, more that i'm a bit useless!
[01:50] <sebsebseb> feifongwong: by default home goes in /  seperate home partitions can be rather useful.   if you have a big seperate /home  you only need like 10GB for /   also SWAP space depends on how much RAM you have and if you want to hibernate the computer or not
[01:50] <cheeko> cyberworm: u can go to #remote-exploit this is irc channel for back track hope this helps u out
[01:50] <DasEi> Rafael: for some reason it's not recognized, I now from soft shipping with them that will ask (win) for a password and covers the parti-table , but you said you had to independent partitions on it
[01:50] <mesutcimeken> i did it again
[01:50] <cast> don't really need swap, i don't bother with it :>:
[01:50] <EastDallas> feifongwong: if you have your home directory on another partition you can do a complete reinstall, and all of your data/settings are maintained.  http://www.go2linux.org/how-to-move-home-directory-to-another-partition
[01:50] <mesutcimeken> same answer
[01:50] <night> drunkpunk: basically, just try to tweet from cli, from gui (-g option), tell me what you think should be added next and how you like it :D but anyway, if you don't feel like it no probs :)
[01:50] <losha> night: the most vulnerable users couldn't read a piece of code to save their lives...
[01:51] <trism> night: you really shouldn't be advertising in this channel
[01:51] <drunkpunk> night: i can burn salad almost as easily as i balls up stuff on here
[01:51] <DasEi> Rafael: so least found, paste the /var/log/syslog (I assume the drive was connected at bootup)
[01:51] <dina> Question: new to ubuntu I just install ubuntu 9.10 on a 64bit machine, before i install ubuntu I was able to go online with the live Cd. But after I installed ubuntu my computer won't conect to the internet. HELP PLEASE!
[01:51] <Rafael> DasEi: Yes i dont need to put a password to acces it from windows
[01:51] <night> trism: im not advertising
[01:51] <richie0> how can i tell if my disk is lvm or not?  i don't remember what i checked during install.
[01:51] <night> trism: i asked if someone is using twitter
[01:51] <Dmole> night: I read http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/MPD#Daemon_Install_Procedure but I'm still having issues making a playlist
[01:52] <night> Dmole: how?
[01:52] <elfranne> I am running Vbox 3.1 on ubuntu 9.10 trying to mount a raw partition but after grub i got error 15 ... any idea ?
[01:52] <night> Dmole: did you read ubuntu wiki first?
[01:52] <Rafael> DasEi: I'm not sure if it was connected at boot up. I can just reboot and boot from my ubuntu installation?
[01:52] <mesutcimeken> is anybody who has an idea how can i fix my sound problem
[01:52] <EastDallas> dina: hard-wired or wifi?
[01:52] <night> Dmole: like i told you to do?
[01:52] <losha> night: it's off-topic, surely. Take it to #ubuntu-offtopic at the very least...
[01:52] <DasEi> Rafael:sure
[01:52] <night> losha: ok ok, sorry
[01:52] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, give details please
[01:52] <unkmar> What does edd=on mean?
[01:52] <night> Dmole: anyway what are your issues with mpd?
[01:53] <mesutcimeken> i have sigma tel audio
[01:53] <mman> EastDallas, sweet, it worked!! thanks!
[01:53] <mesutcimeken> dirver
[01:53] <mesutcimeken> driver
[01:53] <night> Dmole: and hurry up with typing, my laptop battery is on last 5-10%
[01:53] <mesutcimeken> but i dont have a sound
[01:53] <Flannel> richie0: `sudo fdisk -l` will show "Linux LVM" partitions (that command shows the partitions on the disk itself)
[01:53] <DasEi> berrybarry: sudo smartctl --log=error    /dev/sda             ,when done the test
[01:53] <EastDallas> mman:  Awesome!  Glad I could help!
[01:53] <night> elfranne: you should ask vbox support for that :
[01:54] <airtonix> night, you should find a power point
[01:54] <mesutcimeken> if you can help me to find info which you want ?
[01:54] <mesutcimeken> pls
[01:54] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, ubuntu version? also, could you open a terminal and give:  aplay -l   and post the output at paste.ubuntu.com
[01:54] <night> airtonix: eh?
[01:54] <mman> EastDallas, just have last question, someone was asking somthing i also had the problem
[01:54] <richie0> Flannel: so whatever shows up in that command is an lvm partition?  so i can't use gparted on them?
[01:54] <Fezzler> EastDallas>> Hydrogen "crackles"  - All I want is a working drum machine to lay some tracks  :)
[01:54] <EastDallas> dina: hard-wired or wifi?
[01:54] <berrybarry> DasEi ill be in the offtopic room ha
[01:55] <dina> wired
[01:55] <Flannel> richie0: What?  If it shows up as "Linux LVM" partitions, thats part of the LVM, if you see ext partitions, those are 'normal' partitions
[01:55] <mman> EastDallas, the hd says it has several bad sectors, i run the fsdisk and it run, but nevertheless it still says i have problems :S
[01:55] <EastDallas> Fezzler does hydrogen require jack?
[01:55] <mesutcimeken> it says it is not instaled
[01:55] <mesutcimeken> should i install it
[01:55] <berrybarry> mman bad sectors?
[01:55] <Dmole> night: can't make a playlist or play anything
[01:55] <night> Dmole: anyway, skip all part of arch wiki till you get to mpd.conf, that's same for every distro
[01:55] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, you mean the terminal?
[01:55] <mman> yes i have bad sectors
[01:56] <night> Dmole: did you make .mpdconf in your ~?
[01:56] <mesutcimeken> yes
[01:56] <epinky> dina: do you know what card is it?
[01:56] <EastDallas> mman:  I got that too on both my desktop and laptop when I upgraded to 9.10...so far no problems...:s
[01:56] <berrybarry> mman same here ha from porn I think its a bug
[01:56] <Dmole> night: I'm using the /etc/ one
[01:56] <night> Dmole: system wide?
[01:56] <Fezzler> Okay, increasing buffer seems to be eliminating crackling in Hydrogen
[01:56] <mesutcimeken> sigma tel audio
[01:56] <Dmole> night: yes
[01:56] <richie0> Flannel: i'm sorry.  i ran the command but nowheree does is say lvm or ext.
[01:56] <losha> mman: that means your disk is failing. Make a backup of anything important immediately, then go shopping for a new disk
[01:56] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, what version of ubutnu do you have? also, how did oyu try to access the terminal?
[01:56] <dina> it's a realtek
[01:56] <Dmole> night: it's a media server after all
[01:56] <mman> hahaha so you think its actually a bug :P
[01:56] <maco> berrybarry: um.  no. adult images dont ruin hard disks
[01:56] <Flannel> richie0: If you pastebin the output of it, I'll help sort it out
[01:56] <epinky> dina: realtek ....
[01:56] <night> Dmole: true, can you check if you have mpd.conf.example then installed somewhere?
[01:57] <Fezzler> So all, are there advantages of using JACK?
[01:57] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, check in applications → accessories
[01:57] <mesutcimeken> i have ubuntu 9.10
[01:57] <maco> berrybarry: and ya know...we dont really need to know youve got that
[01:57] <richie0> Flannel: thank you!
[01:57] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, you should have a "Terminal" menu item in there
[01:57] <berrybarry> maco ha ok
[01:57] <Dmole> night: well I think the one i am using is a copy of that because it's full of comments
[01:57] <mesutcimeken> i am in the terminal now
[01:57] <night> Dmole: yep, you're using the copy then
[01:57] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, oh good. now give:  aplay -l
[01:58] <mesutcimeken> terminal says alsa is not installed , do you wanna install
[01:58] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, hmm. interesting
[01:58] <Dmole> night: I'm trying not to run mpd –create-db because it might take a year~
[01:58] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, ok. w8
[01:58] <epinky> dina: post results of "sudo lspci" , use pastebin
[01:58] <didivp> someone had problems with open areno in ubuntu 9.10?
[01:58] <feifongwong> this linux install is a basic media PC, I just need a location to store all the movies, etc. I can reinstall the whole operation system will out worrying.
[01:58] <didivp> *open arena
[01:58] <Flannel> feifongwong: /home
[01:58] <EastDallas> fezzler....if you want to try using it with jack, all you have to do is install jack (sudo apt-get install jackd) and Jack Control (sudo apt-get install qjackctl).  Then you can open Jack Control from the sound and video menu, start jack, then open hydrogen.
[01:58] <night> Dmole: quick question, what is your error?
[01:58] <mman> nice, thank you all you guys:)
[01:59] <Dmole> night: no errors just no sound
[01:59] <night> Dmole: there *must* have been some output in terminal
[01:59] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, actually, did you by any chance remove alsa and then tried to install oss?
[01:59] <night> Dmole: no sound only when you use mpd/ncmpc?
[01:59] <night> Dmole: or no sound at all
[01:59] <feifongwong> Flannel EastDallas sebsebseb  : thanks
[01:59] <richie0> Flannel: here's that pastebin:  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2690a21d  i want to shrink my / partition and increase my windows.
[01:59] <mac9416> When running 'xterm -e "gksu apt-get install <package>" && read', the xterm will not accept <enter> or arrow keys. Any ideas?
[01:59] <mesutcimeken> yes i did
[01:59] <Dmole> night: there is mpd said listing playlists return 0 and mpc said nothing
[01:59] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, :/
[01:59] <berrybarry> DasEi I would think its done :(
[02:00] <Dmole> night: I have sound from mplayer
[02:00] <sebsebseb> feifongwong: ok,  and by the way you can move  home to a seperate partition after install
[02:00] <Dmole> night: and mpd said it found an oss driver to use
[02:00] <Flannel> richie0: Those are standard linux partitions (ext, likely) not LVM, sorry, I thought it said ext3.  Anyway, yes, you use gparted (from a liveCD)
[02:00] <mesutcimeken> i went to help website , and it says alsa can not support this kinda drivers thatsway you should install oss
[02:00] <Dezine> Lately, my computer has been locking up randomly. There's no way out of it other than pushing the reset button. I thought it was the HD but it does it with the live cd too. Wanted to see if anyone had thoughts on how to fix this.
[02:00] <mesutcimeken> then everthing come worst
[02:00] <mesutcimeken> :)
[02:00] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, could you tell me the reason, if you could
[02:00] <night> Dmole: ok can you check the line mixer_type?
[02:00] <rafase282> hello its me rafael
[02:00] <night> Dmole: does it have # in front?
[02:00] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, oh ok
[02:00] <Dmole> I think it's not "no sound" so much as "no playlist or files playing"
[02:01] <rafase282> DasEi: are you still here?
[02:01] <richie0> Flannel: thanks!  is it as straightforward as setting up the partiotions during the install?
[02:01] <coolcat> hi folks, I am updating some files in my web page via scp, but when access thefile via browser I still get the old version, if I remove it via ssh my browser still finds it, any ideas about what is happening?
[02:01] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, hmm
[02:01] <KB1JWQ> coolcat: Cache issue.
[02:01] <KB1JWQ> coolcat: Or you're uploading the wrong files. :))
[02:01] <Fezzler> In Windows, I can record sounds from my computer (like YouTube audio) in Audacity by selecting Stereo Mixer - Can't do that in Ubuntu Audacity?  Why?
[02:01] <Flannel> richie0: Pretty much, yeah.  Shrink one, expand the other (well, its a bit more complicated because you're moving the beginning, but I believe gparted takes care of all of that nowadays)
[02:01] <night> Dmole: hmm btw on ubuntu you probably have pa so you need to allow mpd access to audio system
[02:01] <EastDallas> fezzler: The coolest thing about jack is that it's set up just like real audio equipment, so you can add filters and effects to be used in real time or with recorded audio.  just open Synaptic and search on Jack.  YOu can install a bunch of the components, start jack as I stated earlier, and then play around with jack stack and jack eq, etc...
[02:01] <richie0> Flannel: cool.  thaks for the help.
[02:02] <mesutcimeken> oss didnt work... should i install again or what ?
[02:02] <night> Dmole: you do this by typing sudo usermod -aG pulse,pulse-access mpd
[02:02] <coolcat> KB1JWQ, I'm sure I'm not, so ... clean the cache .
[02:02] <Dmole> night: cat  /etc/mpd.conf |grep mixer_type is all commented out
[02:02] <EastDallas> fezzler, you can do it using the patch panel on jack.
[02:02] <night> Dmole: uncomment mixer_type "software"
[02:02] <Dmole> night: yes pulse is correct
[02:02] <Dezine> Is there a way to log Ubuntu so I can see what's going on when it crashes?
[02:02] <night> Dmole: (i think)
[02:02] <night> Dmole: yep, in your var/log
[02:02] <night> errr
[02:02] <night> Dezine: var/log
[02:03] <berrybarry> DasEi no errors logged
[02:03] <Dezine> ok ty
[02:03] <rafase282> I need help with my USB WD HDD
[02:03] <Dezine> When it locks up not even the MagicSysKey trick works
[02:03] <EastDallas> fezzler:  PatchBay, not patch panel
[02:03] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, eh, hmm, i think it would be better to install alsa again. but for now, could you give this in a terminal:  lspci | grep audio
[02:04] <epinky> rafase282: is it mounted?
[02:04] <cheeko> >	in ktorrent the torrent which is the top most gets to be donloaded but in normal bit torrent i f ther are 3 torrents to be dloaded all of them work simultaneously
[02:04] <mesutcimeken> i did it didnt do anything
[02:04] <night> Dezine: like i said, check your var/log
[02:04] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, no output?! hmm
[02:04] <rafase282> epinky: it wont mount
[02:04] <night> Dmole: did you uncomment mixer_type "software" ?
[02:05] <Dezine> Which file? There are a ton.
[02:05] <night> Dmole: and allow mpd to access audio?
[02:05] <Dmole> night: did both and mpc add test.mp3  did nothing
[02:05] <epinky> rafase282: sudo fdisk -l
[02:05] <night> Dmole: o,
[02:05] <mesutcimeken> no output ? haa !
[02:05] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, then, could you give: lspci
[02:05] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, what type of pc do you have? is it a laptop?
[02:06] <mesutcimeken> laptop
[02:06] <mesutcimeken> lg le 50
[02:06] <night> Dmole: so sudo usermod -aG pulse,pulse-audio mpd didnt help?
[02:06] <Dmole> night: mpd said "client 0: process command list returned 0"
[02:06] <DasEi> berrybarry: so it seems you're fine, if smart reports no errors, sure it's not the filesystem (the longer test is more precise, though) re-check again by :
[02:06] <rafase282> http://pastebin.com/f16463b9b
[02:06] <night> Dmole: err pulse-access*
[02:06] <rafase282> epinky: http://pastebin.com/f16463b9b
[02:06] <mesutcimeken>  Host bridge: ATI Technologies Inc Device 5a31 (rev 01)
[02:06] <mesutcimeken> 00:01.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
[02:06] <mesutcimeken> 00:07.0 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc RS480 PCI Bridge
[02:06] <mesutcimeken> 00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80)
[02:06] <mesutcimeken> 00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB Host Controller (rev 80)
[02:06] <mesutcimeken> 00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB400 USB2 Host Controller (rev 80)
[02:06] <FloodBot2> mesutcimeken: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:06] <night> mesutcimeken: pastebin
[02:07] <DasEi> berrybarry: sudo smrtctl -a /dev/sda
[02:07] <rafase282> Hey DasEi!
[02:07] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, not here. use a pastebin!
[02:07] <night> Dmole: well.. hmm idk i didnt have problems with mpd on ubuntu after adding it to pulse and pulse-access groups
[02:07] <mesutcimeken> sorry ? i just pasted my info , sorry
[02:07] <DasEi> rafase282: saw you already
[02:07] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, use paste.ubuntu.com
[02:08] <rafase282> DasEi: What did you wanted me to show you after the reboot? I installed pastebinit already
[02:08] <night> Dmole: did you create-db first?
[02:08] <DasEi> rafase282:should be there by default; recheck : sudo apt-get install usb-utils
[02:08] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, also give:  lsusb    and paste the output again
[02:08] <DasEi> rafase282:pastebinit /var/log/syslog
[02:08] <berrybarry> DasEi no errors logged
[02:08] <DasEi> p
[02:08] <richie0> try
[02:09] <mesutcimeken> Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[02:09] <mesutcimeken> Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
[02:09] <mesutcimeken> Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[02:09] <night> mesutcimeken: pastebin
[02:09] <raul_> what does a dot means before a directory name?
[02:09] <night> Dmole: shit battery dead... =/
[02:09] <night> and no charger nearby
[02:09] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, always use paste.ubuntu.com if you need to paste more than 1 line
[02:09] <night> so that means... later
[02:09] <rafase282> DasEi: usb utils is installed
[02:09] <Dmole> night: thanks any way
[02:09] <Dmole> night: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342296/
[02:09] <mesutcimeken> sorry what is pastebin ?
[02:09] <night> Dmole: np
[02:09] <epinky> !pastebin > mesutcimeken
[02:09] <richie0> raul_: that's a hidden directory.
[02:10] <kostkon> !paste | mesutcimeken
[02:10] <cheeko> i have ktorrent as my torrent clent whaen ever i put 2-3 torrents to gether to download only the first one starts to download the rest two of them sit idle is ther any other better torrent clent which downloads all torrents simultaneously
[02:10] <swamy2> hi
[02:10] <mesutcimeken> haaa ok , it is an other website for this , ok ok
[02:10] <maco> cheeko: there's a setting for how many to work on at once
[02:11] <cheeko> ok how do i confogure that
[02:13] <Dmole> night: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342300/  (shorter)
[02:13] <mesutcimeken> 1 2 3Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[02:13] <mesutcimeken> haaaa ok . now i get it !
[02:13] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, ;)
[02:13] <mesutcimeken> thanks how should i paste it
[02:14] <oo_seven> im just securing my acer laptop before installing ubuntu on it. and i found out i have 3 partioins on it (PQSERVICE, SYSTEM RESERVED, and ACER)
[02:14] <oo_seven> i guess i only need to secure the MBR and the frist one
[02:14] <ShazbotMcNasty> I'm trying to install ext2ifs on my windows computer so I can move files from there to my ubuntu computer.
[02:14] <ShazbotMcNasty> BUT
[02:14] <ShazbotMcNasty> it's not working
[02:14] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, just paste the outputs of lspci and lsusb together and give us the link
[02:14] <oo_seven> im doing a dd ot them, any idea if i need to secure anything else?
[02:14] <ShazbotMcNasty> and if/when the partitions are recognised, it says I have to format the drives. Does anyone know why?? ?
[02:14] <virustb> tar.bz2 ?? how do i install ???
[02:14] <ShazbotMcNasty> what
[02:15] <rafase282> DasEi: it is too long
[02:15] <genii> oo_seven: Acer has an F10 booting feature which is a disk-to-disk direct copy backup system. If you remove the "system reserved" make sure you turn off that feature in the bios
[02:15] <mgolisch> ShazbotMcNasty: it probably didnt install correctly
[02:16] <rafase282> DasEi: http://www.zshare.net/download/69944849233510e8/
[02:16] <ShazbotMcNasty> I've uninstalled it, reinstalled it, rebooted, uninstalled, restarted, reinstalled
[02:16] <ShazbotMcNasty> everythinggggg
[02:16] <oo_seven> genii: i thought the F10 is part of the programm in the MBR, and uses the PQSERVICE
[02:16] <virustb> .tar.bz2 ?? how do i install ???
[02:16] <epinky> ShazbotMcNasty: afaik, ext2fs is a driver to read ext2/ext3 partitions on windows
[02:16] <oo_seven> and assumed system reserved is part of windows
[02:16] <DasEi> berrybarry: so you shouldn't get error messages then, disable smart to stop the annoyance, and frequently, depending on drives usage and age, run a test manually, hdparms nows an option, but that worked for ides mostly, not ata drives
[02:17] <mesutcimeken> this is the first link http://paste.ubuntu.com/342303/
[02:17] <oo_seven> virustb: tar -xvjf yourfile.tar.bz2 ?
[02:17] <genii> oo_seven: No idea how it specifically goes. However, I hosed an install with it by accident (after using entire drive for linux install)
[02:18] <oo_seven> ouch
[02:18] <oo_seven> and everything was gone
[02:18] <oo_seven> ?
[02:18] <genii> oo_seven: Yes
[02:18] <mgolisch> ShazbotMcNasty: what do you use as filesystem? the current ubuntu releases uses ext4 by default the ext2ifs page doesnt say it supports ext4
[02:18] <oo_seven> like the computer was put back into the INITIAL state after purchasing
[02:18] <rafase282> DasEi: Disk utility says unrecognized, not partitioned
[02:18] <mgolisch> ShazbotMcNasty: also did you use the ext2ifs control panel thing to configure the partitions/volumes?
[02:18] <oo_seven> genii: i want to have linux and win in parallel
[02:19] <ShazbotMcNasty> mgolisch, ext3, and is the control panel during installation?
[02:19] <oo_seven> oo_seven: coz my xubuntu seems to be unfortunatelly still to powerconsuming
[02:19] <mesutcimeken> kostkon did you get it ?
[02:19] <Thoven78> Question: how do i sync my mp3 player with Rhythmbox?
[02:19] <mgolisch> ShazbotMcNasty: no you open it from control panel and configure what drives to map a letter to
[02:19] <mgolisch> ShazbotMcNasty: etc
[02:19] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, ah, let's see
[02:19] <Shwack> Does anybody use mibbit as a gateway to their IRC channel?
[02:19] <MenZa> !ot | Shwack
[02:20] <DasEi> rafase282:lots of errors in syslog,  Add. Sense: Logical block address out of range
[02:20] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, aha, it's Audio, that' why grep couldn't find it :S  it was case sensitive. anyway
[02:20] <oo_seven> i can not connect to my wireless netowrk as long as it does not broadcast the SSII (or how its called). is this a bug? or only my misunderstanding of something?
[02:20] <rafase282> DasEi: ??? do what?
[02:20] <DasEi> rafase282:it's not your lappi not supporting that disk size ?
[02:20] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, ATI Technologies Inc IXP SB4x0 High Definition Audio Controller (rev 01) that's your sound card
[02:21] <brent23> Is there a special way to get ubuntu to allow me to delete the windows directory on my windows partition?
[02:21] <ShazbotMcNasty> mgolisch, i'll do that
[02:21] <rafase282> DasEi: I dont know it shows 2199 GB unrecognized on disk utility
[02:21] <oo_seven> brent23: do you have read and write access to this partition?
[02:21] <mgolisch> brent23: it doenst allow that?
[02:21] <DasEi> brent23: gparted
[02:21] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, eh, i believe it could work with alsa, maybe after installing the backported drivers
[02:21] <usr13> oo_seven: If your WiFi router does not broadcast the essid, you will need to manually set the client's essid.
[02:21] <brent23> It's protecting me
[02:21] <rafase282> that must be the partition for backup
[02:21] <brent23> er it.
[02:21] <oo_seven> usr13: did it
[02:21] <mgolisch> brent23: usualy ntfs-3g doenst care too much about permissions
[02:21] <brent23> I have full access
[02:21] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, definitely, oss is not the solution, i believe
[02:21] <mesutcimeken> is it ?
[02:22] <Crash1hd> losha: IS there a way to get the fsck to run without me having to sit infront of it hitting enter everytime it ask?
[02:22] <derenrich> how bad would removing a usb boot stick after ubuntu boot'd? instant crash?
[02:22] <DasEi> brent23: mussnt be mounted
[02:22] <usr13> oo_seven: sudo dhclient
[02:22] <mesutcimeken> ok but it didnt work
[02:22] <rafase282> DasEi: that must be the partition for back up since the rest should be for my files which should be more
[02:22] <mesutcimeken> should i try it again
[02:22] <brent23> I have to unmount it?
[02:22] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, it didn't work anyway, yeah
[02:22] <oo_seven> usr13: ok will check this one thx
[02:22] <Guest61782> i am trying to edit a file with the extension .gld and can not open it...the readme says to use GDE but im getting nowhere with that
[02:22] <epinky> mgolisch: ShazbotMcNasty wants to copy TO Ubuntu not FROM Ubuntu, "on my windows computer so I can move files from there to my ubuntu computer"
[02:22] <Shwack> MenZa: I am considering asking how to install IE and run it on ubuntu here.  But the reason I need to do this is to try and figure out a way to get my mibbit chat room to stop showing black screens to IE users.  If there was an easy fix i wanted to do that before trying to run IE on ubuntu.
[02:22] <DasEi> rafase282: did you do the parttiion with ubunut ?
[02:22] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, i mean with oss. eh, if you could remove oss and reinstall asla. how did oyu install oss?
[02:22] <losha> Crash1hd: you can run fsck -y but note that if it's asking a lot of questions, it's a bad sign.....
[02:22]  * DasEi fetches kaffeine
[02:23] <Crash1hd> losha: no doubt
[02:23] <DaZ> derenrich: if you have much of ram you can make linux to work in it
[02:23] <Flannel> Shwack: Mibbit users can't connect to freenode, so this network's probably a bad one to ask
[02:23] <marks256> What is the technical term for DynDNS? Something where the client has a dynamic IP address, and sends the DNS server and updated ip
[02:23] <rafase282> DasEi: should I try the erase from disk utility? and yes I used windows 7 and ubuntu
[02:23] <Flannel> marks256: Dynamic DNS
[02:23] <gagita> lost grub menu.lst ufter upgrade to kernel 2.6.31-17-generic
[02:23] <mesutcimeken> i was using alsa then it stoped to work then i tried to fiw it but no way
[02:23] <Crash1hd> losha: its not a lot (but a lot is a realative term) its just asking them infrequently I think so far it has asked 8 times
[02:23] <Shwack> Flannel: thank you - I guess I should just ask how to run IE on ubuntu and print the results in case i need them
[02:24] <mgolisch> epinky: yeah i know thastwhy i told to use the ext2ifs control panel item in the system control panel to configure the partitions for ext2ifs
[02:24] <mesutcimeken> then i found i fix help in helpubuntu
[02:24] <marks256> Flannel, so if i wanted to look into building my own dyndns "clone," i'd look for a Dynamic DNS how to?
[02:24] <Flannel> !ies4linux | Shwack
[02:24] <oo_seven> usr13: a lot of DHCPDISCOVERS and in the ent NO DHCPEOFFERS :(
[02:24] <DasEi> rafase282: no, you'll loose your data then, first try :
[02:24] <Flannel> marks256: Erm, I guess, yeah.
[02:24] <mesutcimeken> then i removed alsa and install the oss
[02:24] <usr13> Shwack: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-install-internet-explorer-on-linux.html
[02:24] <losha> Crash1hd: ok, that's not bad. When it gets in the hundreds it's time to worry...
[02:24] <Shwack> Flannel: thank you very much!!!
[02:24] <Crash1hd> losha: It said that it exited with a status 4
[02:24] <Crash1hd> losha: lol
[02:24] <DasEi> rafase282:sudo hdparm -z /dev/sdb
[02:24] <usr13> oo_seven: Sure you have the essid correct?
[02:24] <mesutcimeken> and it didnt work also
[02:24] <oo_seven> usr13: i set the name and password in the user interface provided by the little network icon, in xfce.
[02:24] <Crash1hd> losha: do you know what the issue is?
[02:24] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, ok
[02:24] <marks256> Flannel, i already found GnuDIP, but that is no longer being maintained
[02:24] <usr13> oo_seven: iwconfig
[02:24] <mesutcimeken> :)
[02:25] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, but it was working with alsa, at least for a short time
[02:25] <mesutcimeken> yes it did
[02:25] <Crash1hd> losha: if its currently running is there a way to stop it so that I can add the -y to it?
[02:25] <oo_seven> usr13: NO ESSID assigned!
[02:25] <usr13> oo_seven: iwconfig eth0 essid linksys  #Where linksys is essid of your WiFi router.
[02:25] <rafase282> DasEi:  re-reading partition table
[02:25] <rafase282>  BLKRRPART failed: Input/output error
[02:25] <DasEi> rafase282:reread succesfull ?
[02:25] <derenrich> DaZ: sure, but a default stick I assume will just cry if it is removed
[02:25] <maco> usr13, oo_seven: sudo that
[02:25] <losha> Crash1hd: actually, it's risky to interrupt a running fsck....
[02:26] <rafase282> DasEi: no
[02:26] <DasEi> rafase282:sudo fdsik -l   now ?
[02:26] <usr13> oo_seven: #And where eth0 is the wireless device
[02:26] <oo_seven> usr13: iits wlan0 in my case
[02:26] <oo_seven> usr13: did it
[02:26] <usr13> oo_seven: Yes, as maco says, use sudo.
[02:26] <bob__> how can i edit a file with .gld extension
[02:26] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, that's a good sign. eh, so, what do you think? do you want to install alsa again?
[02:26] <Crash1hd> losha: of course just going to be really slow process as I have to go downstairs to check it
[02:26] <oo_seven> usr13: but how do i change the password
[02:26] <usr13> oo_seven: sudo dhclient
[02:26] <oo_seven> or set it?
[02:26] <oo_seven> kk
[02:26] <mesutcimeken> i dont know
[02:26] <rafase282> DasEi: http://pastebin.com/f382aef6d
[02:26] <usr13> oo_seven: password?
[02:26] <brent23> hmm
[02:26] <losha> Crash1hd: good exercise....
[02:27] <DasEi> rafase282: something is wrong with the descriptor, did you unplug the drive from running windows ? no clean shutdown ?
[02:27] <usr13> oo_seven: Password to what?
[02:27] <Crash1hd> losha: lol true (wishing I had homers bird)
[02:27] <oo_seven> usr13: ah my network is secured
[02:27] <losha> Crash1hd: :-)
[02:27] <rafase282> DasEi: I dont remember
[02:27] <oo_seven> usr13: PSA PErsonal
[02:27] <mesutcimeken> if you want i can . however i will learn like that
[02:27] <gagita> I lost my menu.lst after upgrade to 2.6.31-17-generic, where can I got it back?
[02:27] <usr13> oo_seven: What type of encryption?
[02:27] <rafase282> DasEi: lets assumes that to be a yes?
[02:27] <oo_seven> usr13: WPA personal
[02:27] <mesutcimeken> install remove install again
[02:27] <brent23> gonna try something
[02:27] <mesutcimeken> :)
[02:27] <maco> oo_seven: you should use /etc/network/interfaces then
[02:27] <brent23> brb if it doesn't work.
[02:28] <DasEi> rafase282: have got a running windows around ?
[02:28] <oo_seven> maco: ill have a look inside that one
[02:28] <rafase282> on a acer mini, windows 7 starter
[02:28] <usr13> !wpa | oo_seven
[02:28] <rafase282> or win 7 bis on this but i would have to reboot
[02:28] <oo_seven> usr13: i again get no DHCPOOFFERS due to the missing "password" im afraid
[02:28] <abuqutaita> hey guys
[02:28] <maco> oo_seven: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342310/
[02:28] <rafase282> and i have mac leopard installed too and it does not read it
[02:28] <maco> oo_seven: then "sudo ifdown wlan0 && sudo ifup wlan0"
[02:28] <abuqutaita> i just finished an install of ubuntu (single OS system) and grub doesn't load
[02:29] <rafase282> what should I try on windows?
[02:29] <rafase282> oh i have another laptop with windows xp
[02:29] <rafase282> very slow
[02:29] <usr13> oo_seven: What is your wireless device?  lspci |grep -i wireless
[02:29] <losha> abuqutaita: which os version?
[02:29] <rafase282> DasEi: can I pm? i keep forgetting to type your name before i post
[02:29] <DasEi> rafase282: do so, see if the drive gets found, then use safely remove hardware, that would fix that issue, can also do a chkdsk -f on it
[02:29] <abuqutaita> losha: 9.10
[02:29] <abuqutaita> it's a server install, but i have a seperate /boot partition
[02:30] <abuqutaita> and i set it active
[02:30] <mesutcimeken> kostkon should i install alsa again
[02:30] <mesutcimeken> ?
[02:30] <losha> abuqutaita: that's grub2, Sorry, I can't help. If all else fails, go to 8.04....
[02:30] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, i would recommend you to install it again, yes
[02:30] <mesutcimeken> ok
[02:30] <usr13> !grub2 | abuqutaita
[02:30] <mesutcimeken> just a second
[02:30] <mesutcimeken> pls
[02:31] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, but oyu need to remove oss. how did you install it?
[02:31] <abuqutaita> it's like a pre-grub error
[02:31] <mesutcimeken> really i dont know
[02:31] <abuqutaita> grub never loads
[02:31] <abuqutaita> no errors or anything
[02:31] <abuqutaita> i have a Boot from CD (nothing in there), then it tries the HDD
[02:31] <abuqutaita> then it just ha sa blinking cursor
[02:31] <mesutcimeken> i guess i couldnt install that
[02:31] <mesutcimeken> too
[02:31] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, hmm
[02:32] <abuqutaita> usr13: that wiki is not useful
[02:32] <gagita> I can still boot to my karmic box, that there are no menu.lst in my /boot/grub directory
[02:32] <oo_seven> usr13: will check the device name , waiting for the ifup now
[02:32] <abuqutaita> gagita: it's now grub.cfg
[02:33] <gagita> okay
[02:33] <gagita> abuqutaita: okay, let me check
[02:33] <ZummiG777> Question: I'm running a dual screen setup (karmic) - is it possible to have individual backgrounds for each screen?
[02:33] <oo_seven> usr13: Intel Corporation WiFi Link 100 Series
[02:34] <gagita> abuqutaita: I found it, tnx a lot
[02:34] <abuqutaita> gagita: np
[02:34] <oo_seven> maco: after ifup ifdown i have No DHCPOFfers again
[02:34] <usr13> oo_seven: I do not know for sure, but that one may not be fully supported, in which case you will need to turn WPA off on the router.
[02:35] <oo_seven> usr13: it worked already when i have my SSID boradcasting on
[02:35] <Nautilus> what do I install to get the GD library?
[02:35] <oo_seven> usr13: i set it up via this GUI that ships with xubuntu
[02:35] <usr13> oo_seven: Ok, well if it worked before, should work again...
[02:35] <Amalagy> hey
[02:35] <Amalagy> this is being received badly
[02:35] <oo_seven> usr13: but i turned the SSID off again
[02:35] <Amalagy> http://ubuntusatanic.org/news/about/
[02:35] <usr13> oo_seven: Use the GUI again..
[02:35] <guyster> EastDallas, thanks much for the tip earlier on the sandisk.  That web site worked perfectly.
[02:35] <Amalagy> very very badly
[02:35] <Amalagy> making linux seem like it is for devil worshippers ?
[02:35] <oo_seven> usr13: ir works only if i broadcast the SSID , which i do not want ;)
[02:35] <Amalagy> and using the ubuntu distro to do it ?
[02:35] <Amalagy> you guys ?
[02:35] <mesutcimeken> hi.kostkon i did and i have to reeboot now
[02:35] <maco> oo_seven: if you do "iwconfig" did it associate?
[02:35] <Amalagy> this needs to be stopped.
[02:35] <maco> oo_seven: just plain "iwconfig"
[02:36] <mesutcimeken> i ll be back thanks and see you
[02:36] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, ok
[02:36] <usr13> oo_seven: Set the essid permanent
[02:36] <Amalagy> it's putting a highly negative air on ubuntu
[02:36] <Amalagy> very negative
[02:36] <oo_seven> usr13: access point : not assscoiated
[02:36] <Amalagy> since satan stands for everything evil
[02:36] <kostkon> !ot | Amalagy
[02:36] <usr13> oo_seven: Use the GUI again..
[02:36] <Amalagy> where are the ubuntu coders ?
[02:36] <oo_seven> ok
[02:36] <maco> oo_seven: try again? i know i sometimes have to try 2-3 times depending on where i am
[02:37] <maco> oo_seven: my school's ap doesnt always associate quickly
[02:37] <mythomaniac> man... how low we've gone: http://ubuntusatanic.org/news/about/
[02:37] <oo_seven> do in eed MOde: infrastructure or Ad-hoc?
[02:38] <maco> uhh whats wrong with SE?
[02:38] <maco> oo_seven: Managed
[02:38] <maco> oo_seven: oh wait gui. infrastructure
[02:38] <usr13> oo_seven: infrastructure
[02:38] <shy> is this a good place to ask total newbie questions?
[02:38] <oo_seven> the NetworkMAnager (thats the name of the gui) only shows this two of them
[02:38] <kostkon> shy, yeap
[02:38] <shy> oh thank you kostkon
[02:39] <guyster> May I please ask a question about ubuntu sound?
[02:39] <shy> i have been a computer user for 12 years, so i am not totally new to them
[02:39] <shy> but ubuntu is all brand new
[02:39] <MenZa> shy: Any questions are welcome here :)
[02:39] <i_is_broke> !ask
[02:39] <oo_seven> usr13 & maco: i configured it in the gui, and now i can go to : connect to hiddden wireless network, however when i select my Wireless connection1 the COnnect button is graye out
[02:40] <oo_seven> grayd out
[02:40] <shy> oo thank you, very friendly here
[02:40] <oo_seven> im afraid this just does NOT work for hidden networks
[02:40] <MenZa> shy: we try to be. :)
[02:40] <ubuntu-user> hello im on Ubuntu live cd now. i just formated and reinstalled windows... witch command line should i follow to re-Install Grub.. ?? thanks
[02:40] <shy> then i will just sit and watch for a while, i learned alot of what i know from doing just that
[02:40] <maco> oo_seven: thatd be a regression then
[02:40] <MenZa> !grub2 | ubuntu-user
[02:41] <usr13> oo_seven: Might be simpler to turn broadcast essid back on (on the router).
[02:41] <maco> oo_seven: i definitely remember hidden networks working 2 years ago
[02:41] <usr13> oo_seven: Do you really need if turned off?
[02:41] <oo_seven> usr13: no not really
[02:41] <mesutcimeken> hi folks
[02:42] <ubuntu-user> sudo grub-install
[02:42] <ubuntu-user> MenZa could you give me the commands i dont undesteand what it says there...\
[02:42] <mesutcimeken> i have a goodnews , have the same problem still
[02:42] <i_is_broke> ubuntu-user, i believe its sudo install-grub2
[02:42] <MenZa> ubuntu-user: All I can suggest is reading that document. I've not been in a situation requiring the re-install of GRUB before.
[02:42] <ShazbotMcNasty> mgolisch, the control panel thingy gave the same options as during the installation of the driver
[02:42] <tblake3> I am trying to get a Netzero free account so I can use my cell phone as a modem for my palm on the occasions that wifi is not available.  The page does not load correctly on my palm to see the captcha to sign up.  I can't use my home computer because I think it sees that my OS if Ubuntu and doesn't like that.  Is there a way to project my os as windows to get by that?
[02:43] <abuqutaita> can the installer not handle lvms ?
[02:43] <ubuntu-user> someone help me please...
[02:43] <guyster> I am running Jaunty and have upgraded alsa to 1.0.21 to gain support for my creative xfi.  I have disabled pulseausio, using a guide at idylictux.wordpress.com, and after my upgrade, some of my sounds have weird distortion.  Including a loud constant buzz in stella, an sdl-based atari 2600 emulator.  Any way to fix this?
[02:43] <mesutcimeken> it says connection refused
[02:43] <mesutcimeken> :)
[02:43] <mgolisch> ShazbotMcNasty: hm maybe your drive is not ext3/ext2? or its damaged or something went wrong, no idea
[02:43] <ShazbotMcNasty> no, it is ext3
[02:44] <ShazbotMcNasty> it's external drive
[02:44] <ubuntu-user> hello im on Ubuntu live cd now. i just formated and reinstalled windows... witch command line should i follow to re-Install Grub.. ?? thanks.. dont give me link but list of commands.. :S
[02:44] <mesutcimeken> kostkon hi
[02:44] <trism> ubuntu-user: the link has the list of commands, read the recover grub2 from livecd section
[02:44] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, hi. where do you get this error? in sound prefs?
[02:44] <i_is_broke> ubuntu-user, i did once.sudo install-grub2 again
[02:44] <oso3000> hello, i'd like to amplify the volume of my speakers, more than the maximum allowed by the sound preferences dialog... is there any way ?
[02:44] <oo_seven> usr13 & maco, there was also some question that i need to enter some kind of password (keyring or something) and kept then asking me again and again if i allow access to some file
[02:44] <mesutcimeken> yes kostkon
[02:44] <usr13> ubuntu-user: You need to chroot to the system.  Better to boot to rescue mode
[02:45] <maco> oo_seven: the keyring stores your passwords
[02:45] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, ok. eh, could you now give again: aplay -l and see if it will list your card
[02:45] <starcannon> ubuntu-user https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:45] <usr13> oo_seven: I really don't know much about configuring WPA authentication.
[02:45] <ubuntu-user> p.s. i got 2 hds..
[02:45] <i_is_broke> ubuntu-user, read the docs given to you then..idk
[02:46] <ubuntu-user> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sda
[02:46] <ubuntu-user> mkdir: cannot create directory `/media/root/boot': No such file or directory
[02:46] <starcannon> oo_seven it was probably asking you if you wanted to add your WPA key to the keyring manager in Ubuntu, and if so, it wanted your user password for permission to do so
[02:46] <shy> could someone give me a url for basics and i mean basic english meaning for ubuntu terms?
[02:46] <mgolisch> ShazbotMcNasty: http://www.fs-driver.org/troubleshoot.html the first thing looks like exactly your problem
[02:46] <RPG_Master> Can anyone here help me with setting up a AT&T 3g USB stick with Ubuntu?
[02:47] <ubuntu-user> help me pls someone
[02:47] <mgolisch> ShazbotMcNasty: id guess the filesystem is not clean or something
[02:47] <usr13> ubuntu-user: Like I said, you will heed to chroot to the system first.
[02:47] <mesutcimeken> kostkon : no soundcarts found
[02:47] <starcannon> shy; do you mean basic terminal (command line) terminology ?
[02:47] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, :/
[02:47] <ShazbotMcNasty> well pooOOOoOooooooooOoOoOo
[02:47] <mesutcimeken> did you like it  :)
[02:47] <DasEi> shy : you want a strter guide ?
[02:47] <DasEi> a*
[02:47] <ubuntu-user> user13: how i do that...???
[02:47] <shy> i know terminal line commands, i have had ubuntu before, but i was just hitting and missing i need to know what some of this stuff means
[02:47] <starcannon> ubuntu-user; usr13 is telling you correctly, and that link I gave you, shows how to do what he is saying
[02:48] <usr13> !chroot | ubuntu-user
[02:48] <starcannon> ubuntu-user https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:48] <oo_seven> usr13: ok but thanx a lot for your time! and you told ma a lot of new commands i never saw before
[02:48] <shy> i have a starter guide,, uumm i was just lucky on lots, i want to know the basic english version of what it all means
[02:48] <usr13> oo_seven: very well. :)
[02:48] <shy> like root, i know it is basics of it
[02:48] <shy> where it it on the tree?
[02:49] <DasEi> shy: man <cmd>, like man dd
[02:49] <shy> bottom?
[02:49] <oo_seven> maybe i did some mistake during this keyring questioning
[02:49] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, eh, try:  asoundconf list
[02:49] <starcannon> shy; give an example of what you'd like to know, and lets actually move this over to #ubuntu-offtopic as its really not so much a support issue as it is an educational one
[02:49] <mesutcimeken> in terminal ?
[02:49] <Tim2009> ubuntu-user - is your sda drive mounted?
[02:49] <shy> lol i learned backwards on this and i want to learn it from scratch
[02:49] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, yes
[02:50] <mesutcimeken> command not found ?
[02:50] <shy> starcannon, thank you, but i will just watch and learn..i will get the hang of it
[02:50] <shy> this is for others to learn in and get help
[02:50] <starcannon> shy; np, whatever works best for you :)
[02:50] <shy> thank you i appreciate it :)
[02:51] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, ok. eh then try installing: asoundconf-gtk
[02:52] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, also, install: linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic
[02:52] <ubuntu-user> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ fdisk -l
[02:52] <ubuntu-user> Cannot open /dev/sda
[02:52] <ubuntu-user> Cannot open /dev/sdb
[02:52] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, you'll need to reboot afterwards
[02:52] <shy> karmic is a distro of linux?
[02:52] <starcannon> shy; do you know about "man <command>"?
[02:52] <shy> no star
[02:53] <shy> i am terminal aphobic
[02:53] <losha> ubuntu-user: *sudo* before the command...
[02:53] <kostkon> shy, karmic is the codename of Ubuntu 9.10. ubutnu is a linux based OS, or a linux distro if you like to call it like this.
[02:53] <DasEi> !karmic | shy
[02:53] <starcannon> shy; ah, well that is extremely handy when wanting to learn what a thing does instead of just knowing you need to do it
[02:53] <shy> thank you kostkon
[02:53] <shy> i thought so
[02:53] <starcannon> shy; for instance, "man ls" without quotes
[02:53] <mesutcimeken> ok thanks kostkon
[02:53] <shy> ah let me pull up a terminal, and thank you :)
[02:54] <starcannon> shy; np anytime
[02:54] <DasEi> shy : or query the bot, see :
[02:54] <shy> whoooaa brb reading
[02:54] <ubuntu-user> losha: could u help me in prv?
[02:54] <DasEi> !brain > shy
[02:54] <mesutcimeken> sorry ! kostkon ? second one for karmic it says command not found
[02:54] <shy> ubottu, i prefer no private messages
[02:54] <losha> ubuntu-user: please keep it on the main channel so others can advise/observer
[02:54] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, which one?
[02:55] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, do you mean?
[02:55] <mesutcimeken> linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic
[02:55] <mesutcimeken> this one
[02:55] <starcannon> shy; you can also "man man" and learn more about the manuals themselves
[02:55] <oso3000> hello, i'd like to amplify the volume of my speakers, more than the maximum allowed by the sound preferences dialog... is there any way?
[02:55] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, eh, actually, this is a package to install
[02:55] <ubuntu-user>   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[02:55] <ubuntu-user> /dev/sdb1   *           1       22687   182233296    7  HPFS/NTFS
[02:55] <ubuntu-user> /dev/sdb2           22688       30515    62878410    5  Extended
[02:55] <ubuntu-user> /dev/sdb5           22688       30190    60267816   83  Linux
[02:55] <ubuntu-user> /dev/sdb6           30191       30515     2610531   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[02:55] <FloodBot2> ubuntu-user: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:56] <obscure> amazing
[02:56] <ubuntu-user> http://paste.ubuntu.com/342321/
[02:56] <shy> star i have a wonderful little directory, but its a bit above me, i kind of went the opposite of what i should have
[02:56] <ubuntu-user> losha: see what i get.. http://paste.ubuntu.com/342321/
[02:56] <mesutcimeken> ok sorry how can i install that ?
[02:56] <ubuntu-user> what should i do now
[02:56] <shy> the one you gave me is letting me see exactly what i need to,, :)
[02:56] <shy> but i will ask questions
[02:56] <losha> ubuntu-user: er, just what are you trying to do?
[02:57] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, using synaptic install "linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic" and "asoundconf-gtk"
[02:57] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, or in terminal you just give: sudo apt-get install linux-backports-modules-alsa-karmic asoundconf-gtk
[02:57] <ubuntu-user> to re-install grub
[02:57] <losha> ubuntu-user: which os version?
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> oso3000:  i know using the vlc player. it can let you do that.  Not sure about other programs
[02:57] <shy> on ls you put it as ls -c is the command to list entries by column?
[02:58] <starcannon> oso3000 you could try alsamixer from the command line... not sure if that will help your situation or not
[02:58] <oso3000> Dr_Willis, thanks but i meant for the whole system
[02:58] <shy> a space in between the ls and the - c?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> shy:  try it and see. :) there is no space after the -
[02:58] <mezquitale> shy, "ls -la"
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> ls -c
[02:58] <oso3000> starcannon, alsamixer is already maxed out, i meant amplify above the default limits
[02:58] <ubuntu-user> losha: ubuntu
[02:58] <shy> oh duh i do have a terminal up :D
[02:58] <ubuntu-user> lastest yesterday i updated
[02:58] <ubuntu-user> and formated my windows today
[02:59] <rahduke> i just compiled and installed mplayer with vdpau, how do i check to see if it's working
[02:59] <mesutcimeken> ok now i am doing it
[02:59] <ubuntu-user> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sda
[02:59] <abuqutaita> rahduke: try running mplayer from console
[02:59] <ubuntu-user> The file /media/root/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly
[02:59] <losha> ubuntu-user: sorry, can't help you....
[02:59] <mgolisch> rahduke: play some hd h264 movie and watch the cpu load?
[02:59] <abuqutaita> you should be able to see what it's running
[02:59] <rahduke> mgolisch: it still seems to use 50%cpu
[02:59] <rahduke> don't seem right
[03:00] <rahduke> also how can i use it by just double clicking a video, not using terminal
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> rahduke:  be sure you are using the mpklayer you compiled - not one thats allready installed perhaps.
[03:00] <mgolisch> rahduke: do you use the vdpau video output module?
[03:00] <ctmjr> rahduke: you have to tell mplayer to use it
[03:00] <rahduke> mgolisch: also does it work with hdWMVs?
[03:00] <shy> ok i am getting file log, how do i get out of the manual?
[03:00] <abuqutaita> rahduke: use smplayer
[03:00] <rahduke> i have
[03:00] <Dr_Willis> shy:  its using the less viewer - hit q
[03:01] <rahduke> abuqutaita: i'm using smplayer as my gui
[03:01] <Guest51049> check this site out and feel free to join. all are welcome www.ugotit.ca
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> or h fir help i think.
[03:01] <ubuntu-user> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install --root-directory=/media/root /dev/sda1
[03:01] <ubuntu-user> The file /media/root/boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly.
[03:01] <ubuntu-user> help me
[03:01] <rahduke> ctmjr: does this only work with .x264?
[03:01] <abuqutaita> rahduke: then set the file preference to launch using smpalyer
[03:01] <Tim2009> ubuntu-user - check out: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[03:01] <mgolisch> rahduke: yeah make sure you use the correct mplayer, if you still have the repo one installed, also make sure to use the vdpau output module
[03:01] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu-user:  tell the channel the output of    ls -l /media/root/boot/grub/
[03:01] <mesutcimeken> installing software
[03:01] <mgolisch> rahduke: in the settings you can change the output module
[03:01] <rahduke> mgolisch: what is the vdpau outlet module?
[03:01] <mesutcimeken> :) good
[03:02] <rahduke> mgolisch: ill take a look
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu-user:  make sure the files are in fact there. or you may have to mount the location
[03:02] <ubuntu-user> Dr_Willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342323/
[03:02] <rahduke> mgolisch: ooutput driver same as output module?
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> ubuntu-user:  i said tell the channel. :) i am going to work. Good Luck.
[03:02] <abuqutaita> rahduke: yeah
[03:02] <mgolisch> rahduke: yeah thats what i meant
[03:03] <rahduke> abuqutaita: i dont see an option for VDpau, should i just type it in?
[03:03] <Dezine> Ubuntu keeps crashing on me, I checked my logs from the last crash and this is the last line. "ondemand governor failed, too long transition latency of HW, fallback to performance governor" Not sure if that has anything to do with the crash or not.
[03:03] <shy> ok now this is where i am a bit lost, the terminology seems to be odd,, i went into man man
[03:03] <rahduke> wow that did it
[03:04] <mgolisch> :)
[03:04] <rahduke> sick it uses like 14%cpu on HDWMVs
[03:04] <shy> Each page argument given to man is
[03:04] <shy>        normally the name of a program, utility or function.
[03:04] <shy> what is an arguement?
[03:04] <Typh> Anyone know how to make firefox ignore the gnome theme? Dark themes make form widgets a disaster
[03:04] <mezquitale> Dezine, your computer was working fine before?
[03:04] <sliverstorm> hey!  I have some machines that I need to avoid taking down, and the swap drive on one died
[03:04] <sliverstorm> the device does not exist anymore, so I can't swapoff
[03:04] <mgolisch> rahduke: yeah it will allways use some cpu for demuxing and sound processing
[03:04] <sliverstorm> is there a way, even a kernel-hacky way, to swapoff the device without the device file, after the disk has died, besides rebooting?
[03:04] <Dezine> I started acting up the past couple days. I haven't done anything drastic, it also crashes with the live cd.
[03:05] <rahduke> really awesome, i'm building an HTPC on thursday and wasn't sure whether to use ubuntu or xp
[03:05] <rahduke> this puts it over the top
[03:05] <Dezine> I cleaned it out and what not, thinking it could be over heating. I guess I'll find out when it crashes again.
[03:05] <sliverstorm> first time I've had to dig so deep into ubuntu ~_~
[03:05] <ctmjr> rahduke: here read up on vdpau http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VDPAU
[03:05] <rahduke> ctmjr: i have been
[03:05] <tongaz> holas buenas noches
[03:06] <rahduke> i dont really understand why its not automatically built into every video player
[03:06] <rahduke> and i'm not sure how to enable it in boxee and XBMC
[03:06] <mgolisch> it realy makes a difference, some of my fullhd movies are unwatchable without vdpau , it stuters all the time, even though my comp isnt that bad
[03:06] <mac9416> Hey all. I want `tty` to run in the xterm created by this command: xterm -hold -e "sudo apt-get install supertux < `tty`" Right now, it runs `tty` in this terminal and passes it to the created xterm. Ho can I solve this?
[03:06] <epaphus> Hey guys, how can I customize the gnome menus such as "Applications" Places, System.
[03:06] <sliverstorm> System -> Preferences -> Main Menu
[03:07] <tongaz> tengo un problema con el sonido de mi pc no logro hacerlo funcionar de todas las forma q probe no funciona
[03:07] <tongaz> que hago?
[03:07] <DasEi> !it | tongaz
[03:08] <mats_sg85> hi
[03:08] <mats_sg85> can anyone help me?
[03:08] <break_> hey. i'm trying to create a command that will simply execute a different command with given arguments. first i thought of creating a bash alias, but i don't think that works if i try to enter into the run dialog in gnome. now i'm thinking i should create a bash script that is just "#!/bin/bash \n command --args" in my ~/bin dir. is this the best way?
[03:08] <matthew_> mats_sg85 we don't know yet... what's up.
[03:08] <lat> Where can I find the library needed here for Karmic:  /home/lat/rebol-276/rebview: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:09] <tvaughn> i have a problem when i try to login to my computer running 9.10, the graphical login screen is there, you try to login and it tries to load then crashes back to the graphical login screen
[03:09] <arquebus> !es
[03:10] <sliverstorm> mats_sg85, I suggest posing your question instead of asking if people can help.  How can anybody know if they can help when they don't know what is wrong?
[03:10] <DasEi> !ask | mats_sg85
[03:10] <rahduke> wow VDPAU is sick
[03:10] <rahduke> thanks everyone
[03:11] <shy> *blushes* now i feel very silly... i found exactly what i needed at wikopedia..i am embarrassed.. thank you to all. it hit me after i was asking a few questions
[03:11] <mats_sg85> okay thanks .. i'm need to find the drivers for a pavillion dv6-1253 .. hp doesn't support linux drivers
[03:11] <mgolisch> mats_sg85: whats that? a notebook?
[03:12] <mats_sg85> yes
[03:12] <mgolisch> mats_sg85: whats not working?
[03:12] <mezquitale> anyone here uses tor?  how do you use tor in ubuntu?
[03:12] <mats_sg85> my wireless
[03:12] <mats_sg85> card
[03:12] <matthew_> Some times when I open a folder (usually home, music or videos) the folder doesn't open. When I click it again, it instantly opens two instances. (and I wait a significant length of time before clicking again). Is this just a glitch or is something I can fix?
[03:12] <mgolisch> mats_sg85: youd start by findout out what it is, by using the lspci command, it should list what type of wlan card it is
[03:13] <i_is_broke> mats_sg85, lspci | grep wlan
[03:13] <mats_sg85> all right
[03:13] <tvaughn> where can i find the x error log
[03:13] <ectospasm> tvaughn: /var/log/
[03:14] <mats_sg85> & then can look for the drivers in the web ...
[03:14] <TangoTooL> Hello/
[03:14] <DasEi> tvaughn:  /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[03:14] <epaphus> Hey guys, how can I customize the gnome menus such as "Applications" Places, System.
[03:14] <mezquitale> matthew_, sounds like a faulty hard drive, or a process that is taking up your machine's CPU, do you have a fast CPU?  You can see what's taking up resources by running "top" in a terminal, you might also want to see the log in "/var/log/messages"
[03:14] <matthew_> right click the menu button...edit menus, epaphus
[03:14] <mats_sg85> thanks for the help
[03:15] <tvaughn> i cant see anything that might be causing my issue
[03:16] <mesutcimeken> hi kostkon . still same ... nothing works !
[03:16] <mesutcimeken> : (
[03:16] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, does asoundconf-gtk load when you try to run it?
[03:16] <JunTao> hey I got a textbook question here I can't figure out :P "Under what condition will a file created by 'root' be automatically owned by the user called 'nfsnobody'?" .....I can't find the answer, can someone helP?
[03:17] <Hoppi> hi all, does anyone know if i can open my windows 7 installation (on my slave hard disk) from within a VM... easily?
[03:17] <mesutcimeken> yes i did it
[03:17] <i_is_broke> tvaughn, what grub are you running..if grub2 hit the right shift key and go into recovery mode when booting and see if i there are updates you need or broken packages, did that to me the other day.
[03:17] <Hoppi> I once saw a very long winded solution
[03:17] <ring0> could you recommend reading the book 'linux in a nutshell'? is it worth reading?
[03:17] <epaphus> matthew_, cool thanks
[03:17] <mesutcimeken> downloaded
[03:17] <tongaz> ubuntu-es
[03:17] <ectospasm> ring0: Linux in a Nutshell is a reference book, not for reading cover to cover
[03:17] <tongaz>  /join #ubuntu-es
[03:17] <ectospasm> and it gets outdated rather quickly
[03:18] <mezquitale> anyone here uses tor?  how do you use tor in ubuntu?
[03:18] <FoolishOwl> I'm curious if anyone's got insight into "user private groups," which seem to be halfway implemented on Ubuntu.
[03:18] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, try to run it in a terminal:  asoundconf-gtk
[03:18] <cyberjorge> hi, anyone help installing Ubuntu Server 9.10 as Xenserver VM? How to make sure it's Paravirtualized?
[03:18] <matthew_> mezquitale, my cpu doesn't fly, but it does alright (dual core 2ghz), what am I looking for in var/log/messages
[03:18] <DasEi> mezquitale: y
[03:18] <matthew_> epaphus, certainly :)
[03:19] <fbdystang> I guess I'll add mine to the help list. Anyone know about PPTP vpn connections in network manager?
[03:19] <ring0> ectospasm, ok, but i guess if one gets bored, one could flip through the pages and find some interesting commands or such?
[03:19] <tongaz>  /join #ubuntu-es
[03:19] <ectospasm> ring0: that's what it's for
[03:19] <ubuntu-userr> i got problem with Grub install from live CD... i dot sudo grub ,find /boot/grub/stage1  ,  root (hd1,4) , setup (hd1,4) ,quit  but i get this...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/342332/     help me pls...
[03:19] <ring0> ectospasm, thanks, then it's just what i've been looking for
[03:19] <abuqutaita> what piece of hardware could prevent a fresh install from loading grub?
[03:19] <necromaster> i finally could solve the xubuntu 9.10 freeze problem
[03:20] <i_is_broke> abuqutaita, video
[03:20] <abuqutaita> i_is_broke: nah, system posts
[03:20] <mezquitale> matthew_, youre looking for errors that might make your machine act the way it does, like errors reading the hard drive
[03:20] <abuqutaita> i just finished installing it
[03:20] <necromaster> aqui se habla español
[03:20] <DasEi> mezquitale: tor isn't in the repos anymore, have to manually add the sources, not sure if they done for karmic meanwhile, whereas the jaunty ones work
[03:20] <break_> QUESTION: what is startup notification?
[03:20] <FoolishOwl> By default, a new user has a default group, with the same name as the user. That's half of "user personal groups." The other half is having a default umask of 002 instead of 022. Ubuntu does the first half, but not the second. Why?
[03:20] <i_is_broke> abuqutaita, can still be video what card are you running
[03:20] <abuqutaita> something old
[03:21] <mesutcimeken> http://paste.ubuntu.com/342333/
[03:21] <abuqutaita> like, geforce 5200 agp
[03:21] <necromaster> hola? hi is there somebody how speak spanish
[03:21] <i_is_broke> abuqutaita, ah ok..
[03:21] <mezquitale> DasEi, I already have it installed with polipo but firefox still has a "Tor Disabled" status, how do I "start" or "enable" tor?
[03:21] <ubuntu-userr>  got problem with Grub install from live CD... i dot sudo grub ,find /boot/grub/stage1  ,  root (hd1,4) , setup (hd1,4) ,quit  but i get this...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/342332/     help me plsssss
[03:21] <mesutcimeken> kostkon this is what it is .
[03:21] <maco> necromaster: por favor va a #ubuntu-es para español
[03:21] <necromaster> español
[03:21] <tongaz> como hago para irme a una sala de chat argentina?
[03:21] <abuqutaita> i_is_broke: and the live-cd loads with no problems
[03:21] <ectospasm> FoolishOwl: having a umask of 002 would mean that anyone in the primary group can write files in the directory
[03:21] <necromaster> okay
[03:21] <necromaster> anyway i speak enlish
[03:22] <necromaster> but my native is spanish
[03:22] <mezquitale> tongaz, usa "join /#canalquequieras"
[03:22] <webbb82> could someone please take a look at this its how to automaticly download 150 national geo wallpapers  http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/automatically-download-all-wallpapers.html
[03:22] <webbb82> i cant get it to work its a simple script
[03:22] <losha> !es | necromaster
[03:22] <ectospasm> FoolishOwl: umaks of 002 would mean most files and directories would use permissionso of 775
[03:22] <matthew_> mezquitale, the only error I found was "segfault at 458bbf7b ip 00a43803 sp bf9f0200 error 4 in libgobject-2.0.so.0.2200.2[a1e000+3c000]"...related?
[03:22] <DasEi> mezquitale: (in ff) preferences > settings > network > socksproxy > localhost > 9050 per default or addon foxyproxy
[03:22] <mesutcimeken> is anyone speaks turkish here ?
[03:22] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, hmm. could now try this. give:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base && sudo dpkg-reconfigure alsa-utils
[03:22] <ubuntu-userr>  got problem with Grub install from live CD... i dot sudo grub ,find /boot/grub/stage1  ,  root (hd1,4) , setup (hd1,4) ,quit  but i get this...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/342332/     help me plsssss
[03:23] <webbb82> i download the script put it in the folder i want it to download to but when i do ./natgeo2009.sh nothing  happens
[03:23] <mesutcimeken> ok kostkon
[03:23] <losha> !tr | mesutcimeken
[03:23] <orenji_no_koibit> please suggest me a command-line ftp client that supports recursive upload
[03:23] <ectospasm> orenji_no_koibit: ncftp and variants might fit the bill
[03:24] <JunTao> hey I got a textbook question here I can't figure out :P "Under what condition will a file created by 'root' be automatically owned by the user called 'nfsnobody'?" .....I can't find the answer, can someone helP?
[03:24] <chilicuil> hi, does anyone have this card 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU] working with 3d effects?
[03:24] <necromaster> got it
[03:25] <ectospasm> JunTao: if nfs is running as root, it may automatically chown certain files to nfsnobody, but that's just a guess.
[03:25] <losha> JunTao: depending on the nfs mount options, requests coming from remote systems as root are treated as though they came from user nfsnobody....
[03:25] <LizardK|ng> webbb82, what is your natgeo2009.sh script supposed to do?
[03:25] <FoolishOwl> ectospasm, I understand that. The point of having a default group with only one user as member is that there's no problem with having full group rights on newly created files. That makes it easier to have full group rights on shared folders.
[03:25] <webbb82> LizardK|ng,  http://www.webupd8.org/2009/11/automatically-download-all-wallpapers.html
[03:25] <mezquitale> DasEi, now firefox has no connection, how do I test to make sure that tor is up and running and configured correctly?
[03:25] <webbb82> check it out
[03:26] <LizardK|ng> oh, wall paper; i want their shows
[03:26] <losha> JunTao: the idea is that you don't want root users on clients to have unrestriced access to your filesystem
[03:26] <orenji_no_koibit> yafc can't connect to server outside the local network
[03:26] <orenji_no_koibit> please suggest me a command-line ftp client that supports recursive upload
[03:26] <DasEi> mezquitale: enter tor in trml
[03:27] <ectospasm> orenji_no_koibit: I already suggested ncftp
[03:27] <FoolishOwl> What puzzles me is why Ubuntu has, fred:fred and suzie:suzie, instead of fred:users and suzie:users, but doesn't go all the way with the concept and have a default umask of 002.
[03:27] <Freeaqingme> I'm trying to install ubuntu 9.10 on a somewhat older laptop of mine (from cd). But all I'm getting is a wallpaper & mousepointer (I'm not getting any dialog whatsoever). Any clues what option I should enable/disable to make it a success?
[03:27] <ubuntu-userr> got problem with Grub install from live CD... i dot sudo grub ,find /boot/grub/stage1  ,  root (hd1,4) , setup (hd1,4) ,quit  but i get this...  http://paste.ubuntu.com/342332/     help me plsssss
[03:27] <orenji_no_koibit> it gets the same problem as yafc
[03:27] <maco> FoolishOwl: lack of 002 is a debian thing. debian does 755 for ~
[03:27] <losha> orenji_no_koibit: top hit in google for 'recursive ftp client'
[03:27] <ectospasm> FoolishOwl: you don't want users you add to the fred or suzie group to have write access to everything
[03:27] <orenji_no_koibit> I'll try
[03:27] <LizardK|ng> a umask of 002 makes no sense to me
[03:27] <ectospasm> ...at least not automatically, anyway
[03:27] <mezquitale> DasEi, ps aux|grep tor ---> 115 /usr/bin/tor,  tor created user 115 ?? is this supposed to be right?
[03:28] <mesutcimeken> kostkon sorry nothing happened
[03:28] <juancho> hola, alguien me podria ayudar a instalar el xampp
[03:28] <losha> mezquitale: that's process number 115. It's quite normal....
[03:28] <mgolisch> ubuntu-userr: and it doenst work afterwards?
[03:29] <kostkon> mesutcimeken, did you check "aplay -l" after the reboot. could you run it again?
[03:29] <losha> !es | juancho
[03:29] <mesutcimeken> ok i will
[03:29] <epaphus> How can I lock my gnome settings..?
[03:29] <epaphus> so that only root can change them?
[03:29] <ubuntu-userr> no
[03:29] <ubuntu-userr> mgolisch: it wosent work :(
[03:30] <FoolishOwl> ectospasm, what I'm talking about is Ubuntu halfway implements user personal groups, and I'm wondering why it either doesn't do it or does it all the way. This is what I'm talking about: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/enterprise/RHEL-5-manual/Deployment_Guide-en-US/s1-users-groups-private-groups.html
[03:30] <DasEi> mezquitale: y, you can see just by tor if its running (already in use and port)
[03:30] <mgolisch> ubuntu-userr: how do you boot that grub? you installed it onto the some partition, it will only work if you boot that grub using some other bootloader that supports chainloading
[03:30] <ectospasm> FoolishOwl: don't dare think for a minute that redhat has all the answers.
[03:30] <FoolishOwl> There are a couple of other links to it. I ran into an explanation of the concept in "Essential System Administration."
[03:31] <FoolishOwl> ectospasm, I don't think you're understanding the question.
[03:31] <ectospasm> FoolishOwl: you're probably right.  I don't care enough to look into it further.
[03:31] <maco> FoolishOwl: i think this is a question to ask on the ubuntu-devel-discuss mailing list. rahter doubt folks here can answer "why was this decision made?" questions very often
[03:31] <ubuntu-userr> mgolish: im trying from live cd... i have do same thing before some months but i dont remember how i did...
[03:32] <FoolishOwl> maco, perhaps you're right. I was just wondering if there was some obvious complication I was missing.
[03:32] <JunTao> losha yea I thiink ur right thanks
[03:32] <widget> hey guys, i installed ubuntu 8.04 on my old laptop, but the touchpad and wireless network doesnt work... any ideas on what to do ??
[03:32] <mgolisch> ubuntu-userr: was this intended? if you want it to boot grub if you select that disk in bios the last command should have been setup hd(1)
[03:32] <sliverstorm> just gonna throw out there one more time before I call it a night... is there a way to disable a swap device without having the special device (/dev/sdX), or even the hard drive present?
[03:32] <epaphus> How can I lock my gnome settings..so that only root can change it?
[03:32] <mgolisch> ubuntu-userr: what exactly are you planing to do?
[03:32] <mine> when i watch for a ling time  ,the screen will turn black  .how to fix  it
[03:33] <ubuntu-userr> mgolisch: i want to re-install grub so i can use dual boot...
[03:33] <LizardK|ng> wait, a umask of 002 DOES make sense, i was thinking about it wrong
[03:33] <mezquitale> DasEi, $tor --> Adress already in use.  Is Tor already running?  Tor is running but how do I use it with firefox?  i cant use the net with FF if I enable a proxy, am I doing it wrong?
[03:33] <ubuntu-userr> mgolisch: grub ask me with witch OS i want to log in with Linux or windows...
[03:33] <DasEi> mezquitale: prbly wrong setting in ff
[03:34] <mgolisch> ubuntu-userr: how do you boot grub? or is grub your main bootloader? as i said before if it wont boot if you install grub into a partition unless you boot grub from some other bootloader
[03:34] <iKernel> Somebody has majorly fscked up the winbase.h header file in the latest version of wine from ubuntu repos =)
[03:34] <maco> iKernel: file bug?
[03:34] <ubuntu-userr> mgolisch: ok help me do that..............
[03:34] <mgolisch> ubuntu-userr: if you want grub to be started if you boot from that disk make the last command setup (hd1) not setup (hd1,4)
[03:35] <iKernel> maco, If this version of wine from git works, I definitely will =D
[03:35] <ubuntu-userr> thanks
[03:35] <mezquitale> DasEi, using firefox now changes google to a netherdal page "tor is enabled" on firefox, is it possible it is done?
[03:36] <ubuntu-userr> mgolisch: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342341/     now its ok? :)
[03:37] <Dougdoug4> I have a Netgear adatper WN121T that I wnat to use on 9.10
[03:37] <Dougdoug4> i have the .inf file for it to get it to work
[03:37] <Dougdoug4> but where and how to i ndiswrap it
[03:37] <Dougdoug4> and all that stuff
[03:37] <crypt-0-> i have my root partition pointing to the wrong one, even though fstab is pointing to the right one.
[03:37] <luis_pimp> buenas noches
[03:37] <mgolisch> ubuntu-userr: yeah that looks about right
[03:38] <crypt-0-> it asks for "cryptoroot" when fstab clearly tells it to ask for "cryptroot"
[03:39] <mgolisch> crypt-0-: did you change something recently?
[03:39] <crypt-0-> no i just installed  it
[03:39] <webbb82> ok you know how if you dont have a middle mouse button you can hit the first and last mouse button to simulate a middle click?  well my mouse has 4 buttons  how can i make my number 2 button the simulate middle click
[03:40] <Axanon> I have 2 nic cards in my computer and want to use 1 for LAN traffic the other for WAN traffic.. can anybody point me in the direction of a good tutorial for configuring Mint/Ubuntu to do this?
[03:40] <crypt-0-> im trying to get it to boot....it failed during the alternate install, and i needed to finish the install with the desktop CD.
[03:40] <genii> Dougdoug4: Perhaps follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper#Installing%20Windows%20driver%20using%20command%20line
[03:40] <Bondy> whois Bondy
[03:40] <alazyworkaholic> I just installed another linux OS to experiment with onto some free space leftover after my ubuntu install. I told it not to install a bootloader. I'm back in ubuntu. How can I tell grub to look for the new OS?
[03:40] <supernatendo> hello
[03:41] <mgolisch> crypt-0-: checked you bootloader? usualy the bootloader tells the kernel what to load for rootfs, it might be something in your initramfs too
[03:41] <tommyon> I have no choice but to use Jaunty on an old laptop. The problem is, the video card is an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M. How can I install/use the fglrx driver for it? I tried from the official repositories, but it ruins the display. Thanks for any help.
[03:41] <supernatendo> Anyone with help on ubuntu 9.04?
[03:41] <mgolisch> crypt-0-: maybe try regeneratiung the initramfs from a livecd
[03:41] <computer_> why does my sound sound like crap? i did a fresh install and the sound now seems distorted? anyone can help?
[03:41] <crypt-0-> mgolisch, it simply asks for the wrong root device, when in intrid i can see the right root device, it just asks for the wrong one
[03:42] <supernatendo> I have a sever setup and i added ubuntu-desktop for the windoze techs I work with so they would stop thinking linux was inferior because they can't use a terminal lol
[03:42] <computer_> why does my sound sound like crap? i did a fresh install (ubuntu 9.10) and the sound now seems distorted? anyone can help?
[03:42] <arghh2d2> alazyworkaholic: copy the new linux os entries from the /boot/grub/menu.lst file on your new partition to the /boot/grub/menu.lst file on your old partition might work
[03:42] <doltek> What app do I use to connect to other computers from mine via my home network?
[03:42] <crypt-0-> mgolisch, yes i did rebuild intrid after making the changes. Where does GRUB2 ask where root is?
[03:42] <iKernel> so I downloaded wine from git repository a few days back, with git clone git://source.winehq.org/git/wine.git ~/wine-git . now I want to update my saved version of git, but when I try that same command, computer says no: fatal: destination path '/home/kernel/wine-git' already exists and is not an empty directory. so what should I type to do what I am trying to do?
[03:43] <DasEi> mezquitale: http://yfrog.com/0usnapshot1tfp
[03:43] <tommyon> Anyone know how to get fglrx to install on Jaunty for an ATI mobile video card?
[03:43] <arghh2d2> doltek: ssh?
[03:43] <doltek> huh?
[03:43] <supernatendo> vnc
[03:43] <computer_> doltek, Application/Internet/Remote Desktop
[03:43] <mgolisch> iKernel: git update maybe?
[03:43] <doltek> ok then what?
[03:43] <arghh2d2> doltek: or maybe just network manager is what your after?
[03:44] <alazyworkaholic> tommyon: not sure what rxx the 200M is, but if it's old you're very very likely better off using the default open source driver. If you need better 3D, I think all you can do now is search for and add the xorg-edgers ppa so that you have the daily bleeding edge packages, which I hear give fairly good performance now.
[03:44] <doltek> I want to take full control over it
[03:44] <arghh2d2> doltek: ok, you want vnc then
[03:44] <computer_> doltek, youtube ubuntu 9.10 remote desktop
[03:44] <ziggy> i just upgraded my os and now my icons are gone can any one help me out plz
[03:44] <webbb82> how could i reconfig x so i can set my paste with middle click to paste with button 2
[03:44] <mgolisch> crypt-0-: no idea, maybe grep through its config files for that wrong string
[03:44] <doltek> ok thx
[03:44] <doltek> I'm still running 9.04
[03:44] <tommyon> alazyworkaholic, 3D isn't my main concern. Using the "radeon" opensource driver prevents me from resuming from suspend when I suspend to ram.
[03:45] <doltek> 9.10 dont work on my laptop
[03:45] <computer_> youtube ubuntu 9.04 remote desktop
[03:45] <computer_> :)
[03:45] <arghh2d2> doltek: thats ok
[03:45] <doltek> :D
[03:45] <computer_> youtube has good tutorials
[03:45] <arghh2d2> 9.04 is stabler than 9.10
[03:45] <rubin110> Hi there. I'm trying to get netbook 9.10 running on a friend's MSI Wind U100. I read that there's an option called "Discarded or shutdown, unless you save them elsewhere" that can be selected when using the usb-create package. I got the ISO on the USB thumb drive via debian and don't have a machine near by that's running a linux gui. Does anyone know what this option does exactly?
[03:45] <ziggy> i just upgraded my os and now my icons are gone can any one help me out plz
[03:45] <ziggy> i would like my Desktop icons back can you please help
[03:46] <tommyon> alazyworkaholic, I'll try the xorg-edgers ppa. Thanks for the tip.
[03:46] <alabd> Good day everyone , How to make ubuntu not to ask password for root privilege  ? is there anyway to not enter password each time for each program access ?
[03:46] <mgolisch> ziggy: what icons? all?
[03:46] <Axanon> I have 2 nic cards in my computer and want to use 1 for LAN traffic the other for WAN traffic.. can anybody point me in the direction of a good tutorial for configuring Mint/Ubuntu to do this?
[03:47] <mgolisch> ziggy: maybe try starting nautilus, its drasw the desktop view
[03:47] <mgolisch> draws
[03:47] <crypt-0-> mgolisch, i suspect it may not be the bootloader, since it does unlock the encrypted filesystem, it just asks for the wrong one in /dev/mapper
[03:47] <tommyon> alazyworkaholic, which package do I install from his PPA? xserver-xorg-video-ati?
[03:47] <Bondy> alabd sudo su
[03:47] <leaf-sheep> rubin110: Discarded on shutdown?  I'm guessing you're using a persistent desktop.  Anything you did will be revert back to the starting point of the machine you firstly boot.
[03:47] <alazyworkaholic> tommyon: I hope it works. I'm about to try it out for a newer card.
[03:48] <alabd> Bondy:  how about in GUI ?
[03:48] <tommyon> alazyworkaholic, I'm not sure which package to grab, though.
[03:48] <rubin110> leaf-sheep: I can figure that, I'm asking what does this option do under the usb-creator package?
[03:48] <mgolisch> crypt-0-: hm maybe it pulls that from something else than fstab there might be some dedicated file it pulls that from when building the initramfs
[03:48] <rubin110> leaf-sheep: I created the USB drive on a debian machine that's not running a gui.
[03:48] <rubin110> leaf-sheep: Ah, I should mention that not having that option enabled seems to make the MSI Wind not want to boot up the livecd for 9.10 netbook remix.
[03:49] <rubin110> Which is why I don't want to figure out what it does so I can see about changing it by hand.
[03:49] <crypt-0-> mgolisch, i can try to make the root filesystem mount it the "wrong" place. That would fix it.
[03:49] <mgolisch> crypt-0-: what does your /etc/crypttab look like?
[03:49] <rubin110> I am having an extremely hard time finding anything through google about what this option actually does.
[03:49] <mezquitale> DasEi, check.torproject.org-->"Congratulations.  You are using Tor"
[03:50] <leaf-sheep> rubin110: Gotcha. I don't know what changes exactly are behind the screen. For me, I always have hard time installing netbooks via USB using ISO or any of the GUI tools.
[03:50] <crypt-0-> mgolisch, http://pastebin.com/m308bbf9c
[03:50] <tommyon> BBL
[03:50] <rubin110> Is there a boot option to enable this state of discarding things?
[03:51] <SuperMiguel> does ubuntu support trim?
[03:51] <mezquitale> DasEi, i'm using port 9050 instead of 6050, im wondering if it makes a difference?
[03:51] <leaf-sheep> !boot | rubin110
[03:52] <mgolisch> crypt-0-: id think its eother the bootloader or some file under the initramfs config dirs that tells it to ask for that wrong devicename
[03:52] <oo_seven> is the partition table part of the mbr, and after that the first parition starts?
[03:52] <oo_seven> or is there ANY data in between?
[03:52] <mezquitale> leaf-sheep, you should try DELL netbooks, dell even has laptops that ship with ubuntu, I didnt have a problem with one of their latest and greatest addition, netbook 1100
[03:52] <Yon> Data in betwee ?
[03:53] <Yon> n
[03:53] <crypt-0-> mgolisch, if i can get it to mount at cryptoroot, it would not be a problem. Should i just try that?
[03:53] <crypt-0-> mgolisch, it mounts at cryptroot now
[03:53] <leaf-sheep> mezquitale: I have Dell Mini 10 -- terrible Poulsbo graphic card. :(
[03:53] <oo_seven> in other words if i have 2 paritions : will backing up with dd: the mbr (first 512 b) AND /hda1 and /hda2   back up the entire disk??
[03:56] <crypt-0-> mgolisch, i found it, it was grub, i assume. The configuration is under "grub.cfg, instead of the menu.lst i am used to.
[03:56] <alabd> Good day everyone , How to make ubuntu not to ask password for root privilege  ? is there anyway to not enter password each time for each program access (GUI)?
[03:56] <mezquitale> DasEi, here is a pointless question, how do i disable tor? or should I leave tor running all the time? does it matter?
[03:56] <kitche> alabd: edit the sudoer file
[03:57] <arghh2d2> visudo
[03:57] <alabd> kitche: where is it ?
[03:57] <Yon> Cosole tor (option) stop
[03:57] <arghh2d2> cant just edit the sudoer
[03:57] <kitche> alabd: just type visudo and it will let you edit the file you want to have nopasswd can't remember the exact syntax for the word though
[03:58] <Bondy> alabd this is not really advisable but in a console type sudo passwd root and set a root password then log on as root
[03:58] <Yon> Consoole $sudo tor (option) stop
[03:58] <alabd> Bondy:  that way is dangerous
[03:58] <Yon> yeah
[03:59] <mezquitale> alabd, basially what you want to do is not type a password for rudimentary stuff like installing an app?  I would not recommend for you to do that, it's just easier to type the password, youll get used to it
[03:59] <alabd> kitche:  do you what should be done there in visudo ?
[03:59] <arghh2d2> alabd: just type: sudo visudo  -theres probly a line or two that you can just delete the # symbol to activate... its not advisable to begin with but its your system
[04:00] <arghh2d2> alabd: please dont windowize your fine linux machine
[04:01] <alabd> mezquitale:  you mean login as root ?
[04:01] <mezquitale> DasEi, anyway, thank you for the help tomorrow I will torrify irc
[04:02] <alabd> arghh2d2: so how to not type a password for rudimentary stuffs ...
[04:02] <arghh2d2> alabd: thats what Bondy what recomending
[04:02] <ubuntu-userrrr> hello i want to re-install grub im following the instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  when i do "sudo fdisk -l" i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/342355/   after "mkdir /media/root" its ok.... and when im trying to mount .. "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/root" i get this warning message http://paste.ubuntu.com/342351/    ..  P.S. im using 2 partitions the Ubuntu is at the second p
[04:02] <DasEi> mezquitale: you won't here
[04:02] <arghh2d2> alabd: you can start a root terminal by typing: sudo su   <--that keeps you root
[04:02] <alabd> no using root user is not secure Bondy arghh2d2
[04:02] <mgolisch> night
[04:03] <mgolisch> time for bed
[04:03] <ubuntu-userrrr> hello i want to re-install grub im following the instructions from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows  when i do "sudo fdisk -l" i get this http://paste.ubuntu.com/342355/   after "mkdir /media/root" its ok.... and when im trying to mount .. "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/root" i get this warning message http://paste.ubuntu.com/342351/    ..  P.S. im using 2 Hard Drives the Ubuntu is at the second 
[04:03] <ubuntu-userrrr> :P
[04:03] <mezquitale> alabd, i mean that you have to type a password for any GUI that needs admin privilege, that is for a good reason, youll be better off typing the password when you need to access the GUI than to figure out a way so that you dont have to
[04:03] <Bondy> alabd using root is not secure you are correct but neither is running a gui that does not require the password no diff really
[04:04] <alabd> mezquitale:  what do you mean of " youll be better off typing the password"
[04:04] <Bondy> and just fyi most if not all other distros alow you to log in as root
[04:04] <supernatendo> DRBL help needed please!
[04:05] <prappl93> Ubuntu randomly freezes on my computer and takes a while to unfreeze. Is there a way to tell if all my software is working properly so that it can work better?
[04:05] <arghh2d2> alabd: for a root terminal type: sudo su
[04:05] <richard_rol> hello
[04:05] <alabd> arghh2d2:  gui
[04:05] <richard_rol> how to amend the icons
[04:05] <widget> wtas a good bittorrent client for ubuntu ? ive seen a couple but cant seem to install.. tried gtorrent and deluge, but cant find when doing sudo apt-get install (program)
[04:05] <supernatendo> @prappl93 sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:05] <ajhtiredwolf> I had flash stop working for me in chrome, it seems to happen with large flash filees
[04:05] <supernatendo> @widget transmission FTW!
[04:06] <adibdab> need help...
[04:06] <SolarisBoy> deluge
[04:06] <richard_rol> hello,how to amend the icons
[04:06] <arghh2d2> alabd: log in as root
[04:06] <SolarisBoy> transmission
[04:06] <richard_rol> I need help
[04:06] <richard_rol> how to amend the icons
[04:06] <supernatendo> I need DRBL help
[04:06] <mezquitale> !ask| adibdab
[04:06] <supernatendo> amend as in????
[04:06] <adibdab> my bluetooth wont work on karmic..
[04:06] <adibdab> i use toshiba l510
[04:07] <Bondy> alabd there may be somewhere to change the default 15 mins after giving the password to a longer time so you dont have to enter it as much not sure where though
[04:07] <richard_rol> amend the desktop icons
[04:07] <prappl93> @supernatendo what do I do after I run that?
[04:07] <supernatendo> @prapple you can also run sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[04:08] <richard_rol> alter the icons
[04:08] <alabd> Bondy: yes but how ?
[04:08] <supernatendo> @prapple93 sudo apt-get -f remove
[04:08] <richard_rol> need help!!
[04:08] <prappl93> @supernatendo What does that do?
[04:08] <supernatendo> will remove broken packages
[04:09] <supernatendo> safe-upgrade upgrades packages
[04:09] <supernatendo> dpkg --configure -a checks for packages with missing dependencies
[04:11] <cyberjorge> how do you install lxde with "--without-recommends" syntax? I get "--without-recommends no understood" error.
[04:11] <prappl93> @supernatendo I will run all of those commands after I get done updating something right now.
[04:11] <adibdab> !ask : to enable bluetooth in toshiba L510 on karmic koala..
[04:11] <supernatendo> I need DRBL help
[04:11] <Bondy> !gui superuser
[04:12] <BigIg> When I try to install Ubuntu with the graphical isntaller, I select install from the menu and it starts loading and the screen just goes blank and does nothing. When I try the alternate installer I select install and it tells me it can't fine the CD.
[04:12] <Sn3ipen> Hi. I am having some troubles getting compiz to work. It worked perfectly fine yesterday, but today when i turned on the machine it wont work at all. I tried to totaly remove everything that was compiz something in Synaptic and reinstall it but its still the same
[04:12] <Bondy> !gui root
[04:12] <supernatendo> @Sn3ipen can you access the command line?
[04:12] <Bondy> even ubotto doesent know
[04:12] <leaf-sheep> cyberjorge: If you're using aptitude, I think it is -R
[04:13] <Jaikkuli> can someone point out the main disadvantages of installing ubuntu within windows, rather than partitioning?
[04:13] <i_is_broke> !root
[04:13] <BigIg> Jaikkuli: afaik disk performance goes down a bit but is otherwise nearly the same.
[04:13] <Sn3ipen> @supernatendo Yup
[04:13] <supernatendo> @jaikkuli relying on windows not messing up lol
[04:13] <Bondy> alabd apart from logging in as root do a gksudo nautilus and run what you need from there that might work
[04:13] <leaf-sheep> Jaikkuli: Bloated. The filesystem is not linux native. Things work a bit differently. (Not that I have anything against Wubi).
[04:14] <prappl93> Jaikkuli, it will take up a lot more resources due to the VM software.
[04:14] <alabd> Bondy: no that way is not useful
[04:14] <Jaikkuli> prappl93: vm? is this method really vm?
[04:14] <supernatendo> @Sn3ipe are you running an ati or nvidia card?
[04:14] <Jaikkuli> i just want to dual boot
[04:14] <BigIg> prappl93: It's not a VM
[04:15] <Bondy> alabd well learn to use the shell or login as root
[04:15] <Sn3ipen> @supernatendo ATI
[04:15] <alabd> thanks for your attentions  for now we leave it Bondy
[04:15] <Jaikkuli> leaf-sheep: linux doesn't like ntfs?
[04:15] <supernatendo> @Sn3ipen and are you using the proprietary ati driver?
[04:15] <supernatendo> linux uses ntfs just fine lol
[04:15] <cyberjorge> leaf-sheep: I use "apt-get  install --without-recommends lxde-core"   -r doesn't work either what the exact command?
[04:15] <supernatendo> ntfs just sucks compared to ext3 or ext4
[04:15] <widget> supernatendo: thnks, ill check that one out
[04:16] <EastDallas> alabd: there is a way, give me a second and I'll tell you how...just read something on this the other day
[04:16] <supernatendo> afk
[04:16] <airtonix> Jaikkuli, all is reavealed here in second post on this thread : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=481219
[04:16] <leaf-sheep> Jaikkuli: Linux can read NTFS -- I'm saying that linux resides on NTFS could be a problematic in long term because of how NTFS handle files.
[04:16] <Sn3ipen> @supernatendo no. I checked in hardware drivers but there aint any drivers for my card, so i gues its just using some open drivers. Its an Mobility Radeon x1400 btw.
[04:16] <leaf-sheep> cyberjorge: sudo aptitude install -R lxde-core -- Try that.
[04:16] <jonrob287> how does mythTV work? do you have to have some type of card?
[04:16] <alabd> EastDallas: thanks
[04:16] <EastDallas> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-password-prompts-in-ubuntu.html
[04:16] <EastDallas> alabd: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-password-prompts-in-ubuntu.html
[04:16] <prappl93> jonrob287, that is off topic.
[04:17] <jonrob287> what do mean off topic? where would i ask that question?
[04:17] <strayhyena> hello
[04:17] <EastDallas> jonrob287: video capture card(s) is helpful
[04:17] <Jaikkuli> airtonix: thanks, that is helpful
[04:18] <leaf-sheep> !offtopic | jonrob287
[04:18] <ctmjr> jonrob287: ask in #mythtv-users but keep in mind some people in there are rude
[04:18] <Sn3ipen> @supernatendo But it have been working like a charm on this computer for two years or so
[04:18] <Bondy> EastDallas surely would be better to login as root for admin tasks that disable the passwords permanently
[04:18] <cyberjorge> leaf-sheep: that worked! I save 70% resources excluding the packaged apps in lxde. :D thank you so much
[04:18] <leaf-sheep> jonrob287: #ubuntu-mythtv
[04:18] <strayhyena> does anyone know how to mount an image file without root and without editing fstab? my regular devices (external hard disks) mount as regular user and I can unmount them from nautilus
[04:18] <airtonix> Jaikkuli, also here : [ http://www.howtogeek.com/forum/topic/wubi-or-vm-or-dual-boot ] and here : [ http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/wubi.html ]
[04:18] <stealyourwife> jonrob287: yeah, they might hurt your feelings
[04:18] <webbb82> how do i save a file that i edit in the terminal   i need to save and exit isnt it ctrl s?
[04:18] <jonrob287> thnx for the help anyways then guys...
[04:18] <leaf-sheep> cyberjorge: Great! :)
[04:19] <widget> i did sudo apt=get install transmission.. and it looks like it installed.. though i dont know where to find it
[04:19] <EastDallas> jonrob287: http://www.mythtv.org/
[04:19] <widget> apt-get**
[04:19] <leaf-sheep> widget: Application --> Internet ?
[04:19] <widget> nope, not there
[04:19] <airtonix> Jaikkuli, and lastly here : http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php
[04:19] <jonrob287> why are they so mean in there?
[04:19] <leaf-sheep> widget: Try "killall gnome-panel"
[04:19] <leaf-sheep> widget: Gnome-Panel may need to be (refreshed).
[04:19] <stealyourwife> jonrob287: cuz theyre part goblin, part orc
[04:20] <widget> the terminal says "Setting up transmission (1.06-0ubuntu6) ..."
[04:20] <stealyourwife> all mean
[04:20] <widget> but after that is just the ,name.@ubuntu: $
[04:20] <widget> oh
[04:20] <widget> i c it there now
[04:20] <widget> ty :)
[04:20] <itilious> how come once i installed ubunt i can't install windows on any other hard drive/ partition?
[04:21] <airtonix> !enter | widget
[04:21] <ctmjr> jonrob287: it is not that they are mean they just expect you to try and find the answers yourself before asking questions
[04:21] <widget> sry :S
[04:21] <cyberjorge> leaf-sheep: by the way you got an idea how to install Ubuntu 9.10 Paravirt VM?
[04:21] <leaf-sheep> itilious: When you installed Ubuntu, you had a choice to make partitions (to make room for other OSes) or to use the whole hard drive.
[04:22] <leaf-sheep> cyberjorge: Not really. I don't use much VM.
[04:22] <cyberjorge> i see, thanks
[04:22] <strayhyena> how does ubuntu make devices umountable by the regular user?
[04:22] <itilious> leaf-sheep, i'm trying to use a secondary internal hard drive, which i never had a problem doing untill i installed ubuntu on my primary drive
[04:23] <prappl93> lspic reveals that, according to Ubuntu, I have an "Intel Audio Card" when I have a SigmaTel Audio Card. Is there a way to get the SigmaTel drivers on here?
[04:23] <prappl93> *lspci
[04:23] <stealyourwife> itilious: try gparted
[04:24] <leaf-sheep> itilious: Ask in ##windows -- As far as I know, I think Windows like to be on first hard drive.
[04:24] <Bondy> itilious have you formatted the secondary drive to ext3 or ext4
[04:24] <stealyourwife> windows bootloader has to be at the beginning of the master drive
[04:25] <EastDallas> Bondy:  that's what I gathered alabd wanted to do, otherwise why wouldn't you just use gksu?
[04:25] <leaf-sheep> itilious: You could shut down, swap the hard drive. Unplug the Ubuntu HDD (to be on safe side) and install it. Configure the bootloader later.
[04:25] <alabd> what is ""enable accessible login " for ?
[04:25] <dto> hi. i followed the instructions (install packages, plug in tablet, and reboot) for my new Wacom Bamboo Pen tablet. but it doesn't work after rebooting.
[04:25] <SuperMiguel> does ubuntu support trim?
[04:25] <itilious> Bondy, no there is no partition at all on it, i tried clearing everythign i could via gparted and still windows wont install on the second hard drive
[04:26] <supernatendo> @Sn3ipen you will need to enable the drivers for ATI for compiz to work properly
[04:26] <alabd> EastDallas: leave it doing so is not secure
[04:26] <supernatendo> the open drivers are reverse engineered as good as possible but some things wont work
[04:26] <EastDallas> alabd:  why can't you just use sudo, or gksu?
[04:26] <Bondy> itilious well if theres no partition on it you will need to format it to install on it does windows not give you the option?
[04:26] <supernatendo> click on system -> administration hardware drivers to enable it but you might want to backup xorg.conf first
[04:27] <itilious> Bondy, i can create the partition via the windows 7 disk but windows then says it can not use the partition
[04:27] <prappl93> My terminal is saying "The following packages are BROKEN: ubuntu-desktop" How do I fix this?
[04:28] <stealyourwife> your better off putting windows on your master drive or switch your hardrives internally so the one you want to put windows on is master...actually your better off just not running windows
[04:28] <spO> Can i do hdmi audio AND regular output audio at the same time?"
[04:28] <leaf-sheep> prappl93: What did you do? :(  ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage.  It can be safely removed.  The terminal also should give you options.
[04:28] <itilious> stealyourwife, i need to use it to simply capture anolog video though :(
[04:29] <prappl93> leaf-sheep, I am trying to install the PROPER drivers for my sound card (SigmaTel) instead of the "Intel" ones it loaded for it, and the guide says to remove Alsa and then it said that
[04:29] <shinchan_> guys is there any chat client like gtalk in ubuntu
[04:29] <leaf-sheep> !tv | itilious
[04:30] <webbb82> Currently the button mapping described above is being ignored by Hal. (As of 9.04 it appears that the button mapping is now applied correctly. Only use one method or the other.) This is particularly problematic if you want one of the small buttons to serve as middle click. A simple workaround is to remap what you need via xmodmap. As an example, let's map the small left button as middle click. Save this in your .Xmodmap file:
[04:30] <itilious> leaf-sheep, sure looks like something me a newbie can handle,,,, lol
[04:30] <webbb82> i cant find that file
[04:30] <leaf-sheep> shinchan_: There are many clients that can use Google Talk protocol.
[04:30] <leaf-sheep> shinchan_: Pidgin as an example.
[04:31] <Funzo> anybody know anything about recovering data from a reformatted partition?
[04:31] <supernatendo> where i use pidgin for irc lol
[04:31] <leaf-sheep> !recover | Funzo
[04:31] <shinchan_> i have kopete
[04:32] <Funzo> leaf-sheep I've read that link, but my situation doesnt really fit into there, I reformatted my ext3 partition to ext4
[04:32] <Hilikus> can i create an NTFS for windows in an LVM partition?
[04:32] <Funzo> by accident and lost years worth of data
[04:32] <EastDallas> yep, but MythTV is really meant for a pc that's dedicated for watching tv.
[04:32] <supernatendo> has anyone with DRBL experience?
[04:33] <Funzo> the guides never mention anything about what to do if it;'s been reformatted
[04:33] <lakotajames> I'm planning on installing linux on my flashdrive for use at school.  most of the computers are fairly old.  They all use windows xp, though, but my guess is that they barely meet the minimum requirements.  Would Ubuntu run ok?  or should I use something lighter?
[04:33] <apetrescu> Does anyone happen to know where Google Chrome stores its preferences and stuff like that? There doesn't appear to be any ~/.chrome directory.
[04:33] <sander_> hi someone knows about a kile forum
[04:33] <Hilikus> lakotajames if ubuntu doesn't work try xubuntu
[04:33] <Sn3ipen> @supernatendo How do i do that when there ain't any choices in "Hardware Drivers"?
[04:34] <shinchan_> lakotajames: u can try installin knoppix in ur flashdrive
[04:34] <Bondy> kde uses more resourses than gnome
[04:34] <supernatendo> @Sn3ipen I am actually not sure... usually it is listed there but you might want to google your card for ubuntu
[04:34] <leaf-sheep> Funzo: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Lost%20Partition ?
[04:34] <lakotajames> Hilikus: I read that xubuntu's implementation of xfce really isn't any faster than gnome >_>
[04:35] <ubuntu-userrrrr> help me with Grub re-install guys i cant do it.. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows ............  ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo fdisk -l     "after i get this messages." http://paste.ubuntu.com/342385/   what should i type next?? i dont know anything about ubuntu/linux
[04:35] <Hilikus> lakotajames i don't know about fast, but it is lighter on memory
[04:35] <Bondy> lakotajames do you know the spec of the machines?
[04:36] <Bondy> but tbh if they run xp they should run ubuntu
[04:36] <thiebaude> lakotajames, 256 mb ram min for ubuntu
[04:36] <Bondy> thiebaude thats what it says for xp i used to run it on 128mb
[04:36] <Sn3ipen> @supernatendo Thanks. I will try to figure out how to install those crappy ATI drivers
[04:37] <thiebaude> thats for ubuntu also
[04:37] <Funzo> leaf-sheep: thanks, but it still doesnt mention anything about reformatted partitions, it assumes I have only deleted it
[04:37] <lakotajames> Bondy:  They're not all the same, but they all run xp.   Some of them are really slow, though.
[04:37] <ctmjr> lakotajames: make sure you have access to the bios so you can change the boot options i would guess most schools have access to the bios locked down pretty tight
[04:38] <leaf-sheep> Funzo: How big is the storage?
[04:38] <newbie01> !! I'm wanting to install Apache so I can learn PHP.  I know how to install it.. but what I would like to do is only run it when I want to, not during startup.  how do I do this?? thanks
[04:38] <lakotajames> ctmjr:  My school is too stupid to do anything like that :p  I've booted crunchbag before.
[04:38] <Funzo> leaf-sheep: 400gb
[04:38] <prappl93> Is there a way to install SigmaTel Audio Drivers so my computer won't freeze as often?
[04:39] <leaf-sheep> Funzo: The Main OS on it? (The one you're on right now?) or is it separated parition?
[04:39] <michael_> Hello all
[04:39] <Funzo> only the /home drive
[04:40] <EastDallas> ubuntu-userrrrr: http://ubuntuguide.net/how-to-restore-grub-2-after-reinstalling-windows-xpvistawin7
[04:40] <rCX> What is the escape sequence for a double quote in the terminal?
[04:40] <Funzo> and I'm running a live cd now
[04:40] <michael_> I need some help with getting my nvidia geforce 9800 Gt and 2 acer al1916w monitors to work
[04:40] <Bondy> lakotajames even if they dont have the bios locked down they might still detect your actions
[04:40] <itilious> does ANYONE here know how to simply capture analog video via ubuntu?
[04:41] <Billiard> itilious: you have a supported device for doing it?
[04:41] <leaf-sheep> Funzo: Do you have any hard drive that you could use? I'm thinking that you could ddrescue to "clone" the home partition (byte for byte) then you could play around with recovery tools on the image instead of the actual partition.
[04:41] <lakotajames> Bondy, they don't care. :p
[04:41] <itilious> yes, i can view it via tvtime
[04:41] <itilious> Billiard, i just can't find software that can capture it
[04:41] <Billiard> itilious: you want to capture using command line?
[04:41] <stealyourwife> itilious: you're trying to download cable like a tivo or something?
[04:41] <Funzo> leaf-sheep I don't have any storage that big, otherwise I would have made a backup before haha
[04:41] <Billiard> itilious: i use mencoder
[04:42] <Funzo> but at this point the data is gone so I will  try anything
[04:42] <rubin110> I am running netbook remix, how do I type in unicode codes?
[04:42] <rubin110> It seems like there's a setting under Keyboard Preferences, but that option doesn't exist under the netbook remix.
[04:42] <lazydragoon> someone can telp my why i can't go in task menager ?
[04:42] <rubin110> http://distilledb.com/blog/archives/date/2009/03/06/typing-special-characters-in-ubuntu.page
[04:42] <willy_one> I'm wanting to install Apache so I can learn PHP.  I know how to install it.. but what I would like to do is only run it when I want to, not during startup.  how do I do this? thanks
[04:42] <leaf-sheep> Funzo: Well, if it is that important, then you would be wise.  I have 20GB dedicated for system, 2TB for data. So the home partition is really small for me.
[04:42] <stealyourwife> urxvt?
[04:42] <itilious> Billiard, i tried that but i'm pretty new to the linux scene so its a little more complicated for myself at the moment
[04:42] <michael_> I need some help with getting my nvidia geforce 9800 Gt and 2 acer al1916w monitors to work
[04:42] <Billiard> lazydragoon: what happens when you try
[04:42] <itilious> Billiard, are there any gui options for analog video capture?
[04:42] <leaf-sheep> Funzo: You could try and recover it... It is not all lost, you know.
[04:43] <strayhyena> is it possible to undelete with ext4
[04:43] <lazydragoon> Billiard:  that just close the page im on
[04:43] <Funzo> how?
[04:43] <Bondy> lazydragoon task manager is windows
[04:43] <Bondy> you mean system monitor?
[04:43] <Billiard> itilious: idk, ive never wanted one
[04:43] <lazydragoon> well the thing you do ctrl and esc
[04:43] <willy_one> 1300 people and I still get no answer.  wow
[04:43] <leaf-sheep> Funzo: By actually playing with recovery tools on the home partitions and hopefully you can recover it.
[04:43] <Bondy> go to system >administration>system monitor
[04:43] <willy_one> I'm wanting to install Apache so I can learn PHP.  I know how to install it.. but what I would like to do is only run it when I want to, not during startup.  how do I do this?? thanks
[04:43] <Billiard> !undelete | strayhyena
[04:44] <itilious> Billiard, do you have a link maybe that can simple it up a little bit for a newbie?
[04:44] <Billiard> itilious: i dont know of one sorry, but i can give you a command i have saved that you could modify
[04:44] <Hilikus> can i create an NTFS for windows in an LVM partition?
[04:44] <lakotajames> Thing is, I want something that won't be slower than xp.  You think I should try ubuntu, or go for something like Lubuntu?
[04:45] <Jigbuntu> I sho lubs me sum ubuntu!
[04:45] <Billiard> Hilikus: i dont see why not
[04:45] <Jigbuntu> Where de boer women at?
[04:45] <michael_> I need some help with getting my nvidia geforce 9800 Gt and 2 acer al1916w monitors to work
[04:45] <Hilikus> Billiard so windows will understand LVM?
[04:45] <Billiard> Hilikus: well idk about that
[04:45] <leaf-sheep> willy_one: There are #apache -- Also, the startup daemon might be in /etc/default/
[04:45] <calamity> Howdy!
[04:46] <Xeon3D> any solution to the iwlagn driver bug in 9.10 ?
[04:46] <calamity> I'm looking for a graphical way to monitor which processes are using the most CPU.
[04:46] <calamity> Kind of like "top" but with a desktop widget
[04:46] <Xeon3D> calamity: sudo apt-get install htop
[04:46] <Xeon3D> oh :P
[04:46] <Hilikus> calamity theres an app for that
[04:46] <Hilikus> in system
[04:46] <lakotajames> Hilikus: http://www.linux-mag.com/cache/7520/1.html
[04:46] <calamity> Xeon3D: thanks .:)
[04:46] <Billiard> itilious: mencoder tv:// -tv driver=v4l2:input=1:norm=NTSC:width=720:height=480:device=/dev/video0:adevice=/dev/dsp1:amode=1 -oac pcm -ovc raw -o filename
[04:47] <lakotajames> Hilikius:  look at the tests for ram usage.
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[04:47] <calamity> Hilikus: in system where?
[04:47] <Xeon3D> any solution to the iwlagn driver bug in 9.10 ? My wireless speed is like 1/10 of my wired speed. (and the router is like < 1m far from the laptop)
[04:47] <jtaji> !ops | Jigbuntu
[04:47] <widget> can i probe to see what hardwars isnt installed ?  my audio / wifi / touchpad all dont work
[04:47] <losha> jtaji: beat me to it...
[04:47] <michael_> I need some help with getting my nvidia geforce 9800 Gt and 2 acer al1916w monitors to work
[04:47] <Hilikus> wtf is that
[04:48] <willy_one> leaf-sheep -- I tried #apache and they sent me here .. startup daemon.. okay.. thank you so much
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[04:48] <Hilikus> Jigbuntu are you a bot
[04:48] <leaf-sheep> willy_one: Just nano the file and see.  It usually have 0 or 1 (to indicate true/false).
[04:49] <Bondy> willy_one sudo apt-get install apache2
[04:49] <michael_> anyone know why my nvidia x server shows my current monitor as a CRT-0? and my second as Acer AL1916W (disabled)?
[04:49] <Laughing_God> hi
[04:49] <calamity> Xeon3D: actually, this isn't what I was after.
[04:50] <Xeon3D> calamity: I noticed, hence the oh! after
[04:50] <calamity> rephrase: I'm looking for a desktop widget.
[04:50] <Bondy> willy_one sorry misread what you asked with the spamming
[04:50] <calamity> Xeon3D: fair enough :p
[04:50] <Fezzler> do i need to uninstall audacity when upgrading to new build?
[04:50] <Hilikus> lakotajames interesting
[04:50] <Xeon3D> calamity: tried gdesklets?
[04:50] <willy_one> no apolagies needed..
[04:50] <Billiard> Fezzler: how are you installing?
[04:50] <willy_one> lemm install apache right quick..
[04:50] <widget> can i probe to see what hardwars isnt installed ?  my audio / wifi / touchpad all dont work
[04:50] <Laughing_God> Im now using toshiba portege m900.Its has nvidia graphic card.But in unable to enable the visual effect why?
[04:50] <calamity> Xeon3D:  not yet, but that sounds promising
[04:50] <willy_one> BRB
[04:51] <Hilikus> no screenshot though, i guess it looks like crap
[04:52] <Fezzler> Billiard>> From audacity site?
[04:52] <Billiard> Fezzler: well is it a .deb file or are you installing from source or what?
[04:52] <GuZ2k9> i'm using jolicloud on an aspire one netbook and can't get sound working, jolicloud is based off ubuntu netbook remix so i was oping i could get some help here?
[04:53] <lakotajames> Hilikus: looks like a gnomey openbox.
[04:53] <MenZa> !derivatives | GuZ2k9
[04:53] <michael_> anyone know why my nvidia x server shows my current monitor as a CRT-0? and my second as Acer AL1916W (disabled)?
[04:53] <Fezzler> Billiard>> http://audacity.sourceforge.net/download/
[04:53] <Laughing_God> How do i enable this Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player. 					????
[04:53] <MenZa> !flash > Laughing_God
[04:53] <Fezzler> Billiard>> Linux / Unix
[04:53] <Laughing_God> Okeu~
[04:53] <ctmjr> michael_: you need to enable it if you want the second monitor
[04:53] <GuZ2k9> okay, thank you MenZa, i joined #jolicloud but no ones answered for hours now
[04:53] <MenZa> Fezzler: audacity is in the repositories -- sudo apt-get install audacity
[04:54] <Fezzler> Billiard>> 1.3.10
[04:54] <badbandit> hey anyone know how to install thunderbird 3?"
[04:54] <Fezzler> Billiard>> 1.3.10?
[04:54] <MenZa> GuZ2k9: That's unfortunate, but because everything's changed around, we can't provide support and assume it'll work.
[04:54] <badbandit> i dl it and extracted to folder but dont see any install file
[04:54] <Billiard> Fezzler: if you are installing from source, i would uninstall first
[04:54] <GuZ2k9> okay, thanks anyway MenZa, have a good night
[04:54] <michael_> ctmjr: I did enable it. but when I hit quit and start it back up it goes back to disabled.
[04:54] <willy_one> okay, got apache & php installed .. if I reboot, how can I tell if it ran at startup?
[04:54] <willy_one> (on ubuntu desktop_)
[04:55] <Fezzler> Billiard>> to uninstall audacity, just delete folders?
[04:55] <willy_one> well shoot..  I'll be back
[04:56] <Bondy> willy_one if it starts on reboot it will display as started during boot
[04:56] <Billiard> Fezzler: um, i dont know of a good way to uninstall after installing from source, you can use checkinstall when you install from source to create a deb, so it can be easily removed later
[04:56] <ctmjr> michael_: try it with sudo nvidia-settings then enable the second monitor then save the configuration to xorg there are buttons for it in the nvidia-settings
[04:57] <Bondy> not sure but if it doesent because it has been set to not start wether it would give a fail message
[04:58] <Laughing_God> How do i enable cube effect?
[04:58] <lazydragoon> i install  ubuntu from kubuntu can i delete kubuntu because i not using kubuntu anymore
[04:58] <tommyon> If I click on "exit" it will present me with the option to suspend or hibernate (which do not work on this laptop.) Is there a way to hide these buttons in Xfce4? (I'm using Xubuntu Jaunty.)
[04:58] <goddard> hey yo
[04:58] <leaf-sheep> !cube | Laughing_God
[04:59] <Laughing_God> Thanks
[04:59] <Billiard> !puregnome | lazydragoon
[04:59] <goddard> I am having a problem with totem and the you tube plugin I want to watch my videos but it often gives me an error "Automount failed: mountpoint for org.gtk.vfs.mountpoint.http already running"  I also would like to be able to use playlist options any ideas?
[04:59] <airtonix> badbandit, http://digitizor.com/2009/12/10/how-to-install-thunderbird-3-shredder-in-ubuntu-9-10/
[05:00] <Laughing_God> !restricted
[05:00] <lazydragoon> ok
[05:00] <RPG_Master> Can anyone here help me with setting up a AT&T 3g USB stick with Ubuntu?
[05:01] <balleyne> how do I find out what my Alt Gr key is?
[05:01] <hanasaki> how do I get the kernel boot menu back in grub?  looks like it autoupdated to grub2 with 1.97 and it just boots to A kernel without ever showing a boot list
[05:01] <michael_> ok i got it to enable, but I can't see it. Monitor is blank.
[05:01] <Billiard> hanasaki: hold shift i believe
[05:01] <leaf-sheep> hanasaki: Hold SHIFT at boot.
[05:01] <airtonix> RPG_Master, have you read this : http://6head.blogspot.com/2008/12/now-to-3g-wireless-working.html
[05:02] <ctmjr> RPG_Master: i plugged mine in and it showed up under the network-manager under broadband had the phone number and everything i just hit connect
[05:02] <michael_> and why is this monitor i'm looking at called crt-0 and the one that I can't see is called acer AL1916W?
[05:02] <goddard> I am having a problem with totem and the you tube plugin I want to watch my videos but it often gives me an error "Automount failed: mountpoint for org.gtk.vfs.mountpoint.http already running"  I also would like to be able to use playlist options any ideas?
[05:02] <leaf-sheep> michael_: You're using AVI connection instead of DVI, I think.
[05:02] <oddbio> If I'm not using GNome, then what uses less resource, gnome-terminal, or xterm?
[05:02] <hanasaki> leaf-sheep: ? shift?  the grub site says to edit the files in /etc !!!!
[05:02] <cplx>  I have a ibm x3550 M2 server - I want to configure the drives for RAID.. I can't seem to see a RAID utility when its booting up.. where can I
[05:02] <cplx>               setup RAID 1 for these drivers?
[05:02] <michael_> yes avi connection on both
[05:02] <badbandit> where should i place downloaded programs such as thunderbird in my file structure?
[05:03] <michael_> avi with a dvi adapter
[05:03] <leaf-sheep> hanasaki: For permanent, probably.  To access a list of kernels, just hold SHIFT.
[05:03] <lazydragoon> ok i got problem when i install something in ubuntu i have to accpt the agreement but when i take the arrow down the accept term stay black so i can't accept and install someone have a idea ?
[05:03] <balleyne> what's the "Alt Gr" key?
[05:03] <willy_one> okay, I've got Apache install on my Ubuntu Desktop.. how do I keep it from running at startup?
[05:03] <hanasaki> leaf-sheep:  yes shift works Thanks!  there no way to get it to come up automatically with a timer like old grub?  also the memtest86+ doesn't work
[05:04] <leaf-sheep> !grub2 | hanasaki
[05:04] <Billiard> badbandit: you should install using the package manager
[05:04] <badbandit> 3.0 isnt in there
[05:04] <Laughing_God> What is exectaly sudo is means?
[05:04] <leaf-sheep> !sudo | Laughing_God
[05:04] <Laughing_God> why every command has sudo?
[05:05] <hanasaki> thanks leaf-sheep
[05:05] <RPG_Master> ctmjr: Really? A 3G USB stick?
[05:05] <RPG_Master> Just making sure :P
[05:05] <Laughing_God> Thanks leaf
[05:05] <leaf-sheep> badbandit: Search "Launchpad, Mozilla Daily PPA" -- Add the PPA and there are Thunderbird 3.0/3.1
[05:06] <badbandit> ok
[05:07] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[05:08] <hanasaki> leaf-sheep: memtest86+ says "linux16 memtest86+"  and when its selected it says "file not found"
[05:09] <emma> Do any of you have a scanner that is currently for sale at bestbuy that works perfectly on ubuntu?
[05:09] <GuZ2k9> this is really odd, i'm getting sounds in certain apps in ubuntu
[05:09] <GuZ2k9> pidgin gives me IM sounds , yet watching a youtube video or using grooveshark doesnt work
[05:09] <JustMozzy> hi guys
[05:09] <RPG_Master> what just happened?
[05:10] <JustMozzy> I am currently configuring wallpapers for my desktop cube but they look aweful because they are streched. how can I set the mode to zoom (like in nautilus desktop)
[05:10] <willy_one> !! How do I keep apache from running at startup?
[05:10] <freeride1> please help, what repositories must have to install lamp?
[05:10] <freeride1> !lamp
[05:12] <freeride1> please help, what repositories must have to install lamp?
[05:12] <Billiard> freeride1: look at that link from ubottu
[05:12] <GuZ2k9> what the hell just happened?
[05:12] <hanasaki> when my screensaver is on and I move the mouse or start to type the password the dialog does not come up however it does take the password.  how can I get this to work correctly?  this is just since upgrading to 9.10
[05:13] <freeride1> freeride1 I did, there isn't any
[05:13] <GuZ2k9> pidgin gives me IM sounds , yet watching a youtube video or using grooveshark doesnt work..anyone know why?
[05:13] <GuZ2k9> in fact, i get an error whenever trying to use grooveshark
[05:13] <freeride1> BilliardI1 did, there isn't any
[05:13] <Billiard> freeride1: you dont need to add any 3rd party repositories
[05:13] <michael_> ok I now have 2 screens working.... now I need to understand why the "main" monitor is not showing up the same as the other monitor. ie. 1st monitor is CRT-0 2nd monitor is Acer AL1916W. They are both Acer AL1916W's
[05:14] <doublindirection> anyone knows what could cause high cpu temperature even on low usage?
[05:14] <freeride1> Billiard but why apt-get doesn't find the packages?
[05:14] <Billiard> freeride1: which package?
[05:14] <freeride1> lamp-server
[05:14] <plunked> doublindirection, bad cooling?
[05:15] <doublindirection> cpu load is 3-4%, freq scaled down to 800mhz, cpu temp 60+C
[05:15] <goddard> I am having a problem with totem and the you tube plugin I want to watch my videos but it often gives me an error "Automount failed: mountpoint for org.gtk.vfs.mountpoint.http already running"  I also would like to be able to use playlist options any ideas?
[05:15] <ganymede> hi, i was wondering if there is a way to apply the noatime mount option globally (or at least for all devices that are hotplugged in.) i don't want to have to create a new fstab entry for each of my USB devices just to add the noatime option
[05:15] <doublindirection> plunked, is fine in windows, no overheating at all
[05:15] <doublindirection> running at 30C
[05:15] <Billiard> freeride1: read the link, it tells you how to install lamp
[05:16] <plunked> thats pretty interesting :\ im not too sure what could cause that - perhaps bad drivers?
[05:16] <plunked> im not certain though
[05:17] <freeride1> Billiard well, i do not want to install apache2, mysql, etc... In 8.04 i just apt-get install lamp^, and
[05:17] <michael_> ok I now have 2 screens working.... now I need to understand why the "main" monitor is not showing up the same as the other monitor. ie. 1st monitor is CRT-0 2nd monitor is Acer AL1916W. They are both Acer AL1916W's
[05:17] <ianm_> how would I add a little of the mic input to the audio output (for headphone skype) ?
[05:17] <GuZ2k9> what the hell is going on?!
[05:18] <Billiard> freeride1: you are saying you are too lazy to read the link? ok then,   sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[05:18] <Freeaqingme> GuZ2k9, past few days freenode is being DDOS'ed, and as a result of that, there's some netsplits
[05:18] <Amaranth> !netsplit
[05:18] <Gaara> hi
[05:18] <doublindirection> anybody with an hp elitebook laptop?
[05:18] <Billiard> !anyone | doublindirection
[05:19] <Gaara> not elite but pavilion
[05:19] <kishore> hi all
[05:19] <Gaara> hey anyone a java geek here...
[05:19] <GuZ2k9> pidgin gives me IM sounds , yet watching a youtube video or using grooveshark doesnt work..anyone know why?
[05:19] <GuZ2k9> i'm using an acer aspire one
[05:19] <kishore> is like any microsoft office in linux
[05:19] <GuZ2k9> netbook, that is
[05:19] <riverbird_> ditto on pavillion.  what's the real question?
[05:19] <Billiard> GuZ2k9: how did you install flash?
[05:19] <kishore> ubuntu
[05:19] <doublindirection> :) wondering if anyone with an elitebook laptop has cooling problems...
[05:20] <GuZ2k9> Billiard: what do you mean?
[05:20] <Gaara> i have a million of doubts in java am doin a project can any one help me out...
[05:20] <MenZa> Gaara: Try ##java
[05:20] <Billiard> GuZ2k9: how did you install the flash plugin? it isnt installed by default
[05:20] <Gaara> ya every HP laptop has the cooling prob
[05:21] <doublindirection> because mine is idling at 60C, but only when in linux
[05:21] <michael_> why does nvidia x server show one of my two Acer monitors as CRT-0?
[05:21] <Billiard> GuZ2k9: open the package manager and check if the "flashplugin-nonfree"  package is installed
[05:21] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[05:21] <michael_> why does nvidia x server show one of my two Acer monitors as CRT-0?
[05:21] <doublindirection> that is what puzzles me, that windows xp has no problems
[05:21] <Billiard> doublindirection: 60C isnt super bad
[05:21] <alankila> michael_: a wild guess: you have connected the other one via dvi and another via vga?
[05:22] <michael_> alankila: nope both are using a dvi adapter
[05:22] <alankila> oh. Well, was worth a shot.
[05:23] <michael_> lol thanks...
[05:23] <michael_> it's just really weird
[05:23] <doublindirection> Billiard, that is on idle, if i'm doing actually doing anything goes higher and typing on a warm keyboard for longer sessions becomes unpleasant
[05:23] <michael_> why does nvidia x server show one of my two Acer monitors as CRT-0?
[05:23] <Billiard> doublindirection: my video card idles at 60C
[05:24] <Billiard> doublindirection: what temperatures do you get in windows?
[05:24] <Gaara> any java experts here pls help!!!!!!!!!
[05:25] <doublindirection> Billiard, around 35
[05:25] <Billiard> Gaara: try in java channel maybe
[05:25] <Billiard> doublindirection: anything using a lot of cpu?
[05:25] <freeride1> Billiard I remembered, I just need to type sudo tasksel )))
[05:25] <riverbird_> Gaara, not a java room
[05:25] <doublindirection> top says Cpu(s):  4.5%us
[05:26] <Gaara> i can't find any java channel....
[05:26] <michael_> why does nvidia x server show one of my two Acer monitors as CRT-0? and the other as Acer?
[05:26] <ganymede> why is it that when i'm doing a lot of disk I/O on a dual core, the system becomes unresponsive and jerky even though one CPU is doing all the I/O wait and the other is sitting there 90% idle according to "top"? shouldn't syscalls or I/O only block one core, not both? can't the other core take care of keeping my desktop responsive?
[05:26] <alankila> michael_: I bet you get better results from google than repeating that endlessly here.
[05:27] <ganymede> my physical memory has a lot free according to free -m
[05:27] <Billiard> Gaara: ##java  ?
[05:27] <michael_> alankila: one would think... but man that's like looking for a needle in the ocean
[05:27] <alankila> ganymede: the problem is that applications also need to access the disk occasionally, due to on-demand paging and memory pressure issues. But these requests are queued with the other IO.
[05:27] <Lostinspace_46> Gaara:-) Yeah..what Billiard said
[05:28] <alankila> thus, they stall, and linux on the whole stalls. Also there have been bugs with data transfer on one physical device also blocking the other disks, which is even worse.
[05:29] <Lostinspace_46> When a window opens, does gnome set it's location
[05:29] <ianm_> Lostinspace_46: metacity or compiz does that
[05:30] <riverbird>  /join #ubuntu-us-nm
[05:30] <linux0g> hey all
[05:30] <Lostinspace_46> ianm_:-) Hmmm, compiz?  I will check, thanks
[05:30] <linux0g> i love compiz
[05:31] <soreau> Lostinspace_46: The Window Manager is responsible for that behavior. Default window manager in gnome is metacity, but you can use compiz or any other for that matter. It should be noted only one window manager can be used at any given time
[05:31] <linux0g> is that a ddos attack?
[05:31] <linux0g> or some type of flood
[05:31] <soreau> ! netsplit | linux0g
[05:31] <linux0g> ?
[05:31] <linux0g> oh
[05:31] <widget> can ubuntu 8.04 not see NTFS ? i got an external hdd connected with files i need to access
[05:31] <Gaara> why is everyone quiting like that..
[05:31] <ganymede> alankila, oh i see, i just realized by disk I/O probably caused a lot of things to be cached and thus the applications got swapped
[05:31] <linux0g> ty for the clarification
[05:32] <Billiard> widget: ubuntu can access ntfs partitions
[05:32] <linux0g> ganymede......
[05:32] <Lostinspace_46> soreau:-) Thanks, I am looking now
[05:32] <soreau> ! netsplit | Gaara
[05:32] <linux0g> i just had it explained to me
[05:32] <linux0g> yup
[05:32] <alankila> ganymede: not necessarily swapped. Swapping is the fate of what is called anonymous (not file backed) memory. Application pages are called page cache, and page cache gets shrunk during IO.
[05:32] <linux0g> there ya go
[05:32] <soreau> widget: 8.04 should be able to mount ntfs just fine
[05:32] <linux0g> 8.04 cant upgrade to 9.10
[05:33] <linux0g> thats kinda wierd, and you'd think they would have a upgrade option in the iso or on the cd
[05:33] <ctmjr> ekontsevoy: did you try man dpkg, man apt-get or man aptitude
[05:33] <wee_> hi, i cant get my mic to work. i have tried to oppen up all channels in alsamixer and tried to change my input source with no luck. when i try to start pavumeter --record i just get "connection refused". i can hear my mic through my speakers and i can mute it in the mixer. my sound card is alc889a hd audio. (gigabyte ma790x-ud4 mother board) does anyone know how i can fix my problem ?
[05:33] <linux0g> alsa
[05:34] <linux0g> uuuuuuuuuuuug
[05:34] <linux0g> thats soooo anoying
[05:34] <Xeon3D> linux0g: indeed. (that is if you're speaking about the netsplits)
[05:34] <linux0g> yes
[05:35] <pfak> mdadm question: I have a RAID6 array that has two failed drives, I readded the drives and now one says "spare rebuilding" and the other one says "spare." All drives previously said "active sync" in the mdadm details. Does a spare drive after its done syncing turn to "active sync" and then proceed to sync the next spare drive?
[05:35] <linux0g> netsplits suck, but it happens.
[05:35] <ganymede> alankila, page cache "shrunk?" like it just discards memory that processes had allocated? i thought the OS would put that into my swap file because it determined that that process would be sleeping for a long time
[05:35] <hanasaki> anyone know how to NAT dtls?
[05:35] <widget> oh ok.. its saying i can't mount volume :S .. not too sure wat that meanws
[05:35] <hanasaki> not tls
[05:36] <Xeon3D> it seems freenode is being DDoS'ed
[05:36] <riverbird> linux0g, 8.04 will be able to upgrade directly to 10.04 in april, otherwise yes, you have to go through each distro.  at this point i might just wait
[05:36] <KindOne> Xeon3D: http://www.irc-junkie.org/2009-12-15/freenode-under-ddos/      Yes it is.
[05:36] <alankila> ganymede: there are two kinds of memory application consists of: read-write memory and read-only memory. The read-only memory is the stuff like application code or files memory mapped in read-only fashion.
[05:37] <alankila> these can be reconstructed just by reading the data from the same files they were originally read in the first place and thus they don't need to be swapped.
[05:37] <sontek> Is there a log that shows when a computer was turned on / off
[05:37] <ganymede> alankila, so that's what's being discarded when i do I/O?
[05:38] <ganymede> alankila, i'm reading over 6 gigs of files, and i only have 4 gigs of physical memory
[05:38] <ganymede> alankila, of course, the 6 gigs aren't open the entire time, it's just reading through and closing file after file
[05:39] <alankila> yes, what linux does is shrink page cache (chiefly) and push anonymous memory on swap when you cause memory pressure.
[05:39] <ganymede> alankila, thanks for the clarification
[05:39] <alankila> the page cache is shrunk to make room for the data. Linux doesn't know if you are going to use the data again, so all it can do is guess that probably you will
[05:40] <willy_one> PEACE ON EARTH -- GOOD WILL TOWARD MEN
[05:40] <cyberjorge> hi, I get this error whenever I start ubuntu server, how do I get away with this.... http://pastebin.com/m18bcddc9
[05:40] <ganymede> alankila, the line in the "top" command labelled cache refers to this page cache? and "buffers" refers to r/w data that can be swapped?
[05:40] <wee_> is here anyone that can hlp me with my mic problem ?
[05:41] <alankila> ganymede: I am in fact not 100% sure what buffers refers to. I believe that these are contents of device blocks which are known by OS but not used by anything, or dirty data not yet written to disk
[05:41] <Code_Bleu> my picasa 3 for linux throws an error everytime i launch. If i move the error out of the way, some things still work, but some dont...if i click "send error" , "dont send" , or "cancel" it closes the app. How can i troubleshoot whats causing this? I've uninstalled and reinstalled the app too
[05:41] <riverbird> !anyone | wee
[05:42] <alankila> the anonymous memory is not directly shown by top, but you can infer its presence from taking the value in RES column and subtracting the SHR column. At least this amount is anonymous -- not shareable.
[05:42] <Code_Bleu> im wondering if it is 9.10 related.  Cant remember if this started after i upgraded or not
[05:42] <ganymede> alankila, thanks for the advice
[05:42] <wee_> ohh. im sry ityped it some time ago
[05:42] <wee_> hi, i cant get my mic to work. i have tried to oppen up all channels in alsamixer and tried to change my input source with no luck. when i try to start pavumeter --record i just get "connection refused". i can hear my mic through my speakers and i can mute it in the mixer. my sound card is alc889a hd audio. (gigabyte ma790x-ud4 mother board) does anyone know how i can fix my problem ?
[05:44] <riverbird> wee_, do you have other audio programs running? or anything with jack?
[05:44] <AegNuddel> How do I install fonts in Ubuntu?
[05:44] <Crash1hd> losha: Well it completed successfully or at least that is to what I would imagine (I had it reboot) and then I am now running it again but this time I added -fp so its another wait and see :)
[05:44] <Hilikus> damn it, i just wiped out my /home partition because stupid windows offered to format it. i formated it to NTFS. is there any way to try to recover some of the stuff from there or it's a lost cause? the FS was jfs
[05:45] <wee_> i have tryed to exit all programs that uses sound
[05:45] <wee_> still the same
[05:45] <wee_> have been like this for mounths
[05:45] <riverbird> AegNuddel, download and put into /home/.fonts - the .fonts folder is not there natively, you may need to create it
[05:45] <ganymede> AegNuddel, if you want to install them for your user only, copy them into the directory ~/.fonts/ and create it if you need to
[05:46] <AegNuddel> oh okay right now I am the only user
[05:46] <GAARA> nop..
[05:46] <ganymede> AegNuddel, also, some fonts may be available in the repos
[05:46] <wee_> to clearify, my curent soundcard has never worked
[05:46] <AegNuddel> ah
[05:47] <ganymede> riverbird, did you mean to say /home/yourusername/.fonts ?
[05:47] <Crash1hd> Hilikus: unfortunatly once you have formated there is no way to go back its a lost cause (sometimes when you play with windows you get cut) lol
[05:47] <Lostinspace_46> soreau:-) Thanks, I got my windows doing ok.  Now I need to deal with where an icon is placed if, for instance, a thumb-drive is mounted
[05:47] <Dunas> Is there some way to make the stupid notifications disappear when I click on them, or to somehow customize the notification applet at all yet?
[05:47] <Gnarwal> I would like to thank the Ubuntu devs who put the factoids on the bot. It helped me fix my grub2 and a lot of time scanning over documentation!
[05:48] <AegNuddel> I had a folder called fonts...if I renamed it with the dot would it work or do I have to creat a brand new foldser?
[05:48] <AegNuddel> create
[05:48] <ganymede> Hilikus, there are expensive professional services to retrieve your data but it'll probably be upwards of $2000, especially since it's JFS
[05:48] <Crash1hd> Hilikus: of course I am assuming that you dont have backup or you wouldnt be asking
[05:48] <riverbird> ganymede, aren't /home and /myusername the same?
[05:48] <Hilikus> nah, i didn't have anything important anyway. i'm just wondering if there was anything to do
[05:48] <soreau> Lostinspace_46: Your icons are controlled by nautilus, not the window manager. and I don't know enough about nautilus to say if you can tell it where to place it's icon
[05:48] <Dunas> :L
[05:48] <riverbird> AegNuddel, check free fonts http://www.theleagueofmoveabletype.com/
[05:48] <Hilikus> Crash1hd i have backup of every hard drive except this one of course, hehe
[05:49] <Crash1hd> Hilikus: well that would be murphys law lol
[05:49] <riverbird> wee_, can you not play any sound?
[05:49] <soreau> Lostinspace_46: I always disable all icons to make for a cleaner looking desktop and access whatever I need through the places menu or file browser
[05:49] <ganymede> riverbird, type "echo $HOME" in a shell to see your homedir, it's usually /home/yourusername. /home is the folder where all user homedirectories go
[05:49] <Lostinspace_46> soreau:-) Thanks, I will look it over.
[05:49] <alankila> jfs fsck could be worth trying. If the drive was quick-formated, that is.
[05:49] <Hilikus> and i just bought a new one to be able to back this one up, which is exactly why i ended up formating the wrong one, i meant to format the new one
[05:49] <ganymede> riverbird, normal users should not have write access to /home/
[05:49] <starcannon> AegNuddel I believe if you drop it in ~/ and name it .fonts and reboot or reload your font cache(the command escapes me at the moment for font cache, it should work
[05:49] <wee_> riverbird: my outout works, its just my input that dosent work
[05:49] <outer_space> is there anything like source-insight for ubuntu?
[05:50] <Crash1hd> doh
[05:50] <alankila> If there was a proper format, the data is lost and not even the most expensive data recovery firm in the world could recover it. It's common belief that some magnetic residue could be extracted with sensitive instruments, but I doubt that is the case for modern drives.
[05:50] <AegNuddel> is that just in home or under my user name?
[05:50] <riverbird> ganymede, maybe my mistake.  i am a solo user, so home and username ar ethe same folder for me
[05:50] <AegNuddel> lol nm
[05:51] <starcannon> AegNuddel under your username
[05:51] <riverbird> ganymede, please clarify for AegNuddel
[05:51] <Staden> have any of you installed ubuntu on an intel ss4200-e NAS? I'm contemplating doing so myself, and I'd like to know if there are any potential stumbling blocks that I might not be aware of
[05:51] <starcannon> it'd be /home/your_username/.fonts
[05:51] <riverbird> AegNuddel, username/.fonts
[05:51] <AegNuddel> I put "install" after looking at it font viewer
[05:51] <Gnarwal> outer_space, I use Bluefish editor for my css and js
[05:51] <AegNuddel> will see if it is there
[05:51] <Hilikus> Crash1hd do you know what type of partition table does linux need? my new one doesn't have one but i get several types from parted to create
[05:51] <Gnarwal> outer_space, I've heard good things about Geany too
[05:52] <Billiard> Hilikus: you can just use msdos
[05:52] <starcannon> AegNuddel after you do that you'll also need to rebuild font cache...$ sudo fc-cache -f -v
[05:52] <AegNuddel> it shows up fine
[05:52] <AegNuddel> I am on 9.10...
[05:53] <Hilikus> Billiard is that the best one? it sounds old. i do need to share that disk with windows so it has to be a table that windows understand
[05:53] <Kevin`> how can I install ubuntu as a xen guest? the normal netinstall kernel boots but doesn't seem to have the network driver included
[05:53] <yuse> irc dal.net
[05:53] <Billiard> Hilikus: i would just use msdos if windows needs to share it, yes it is old
[05:53] <Hilikus> Billiard ok, thanks a lot
[05:53] <riverbird> wee_, sometimes there are conflicts between players - some use jack or alsa. i have had problems with mic as well
[05:53] <alankila> Hilikus: always use the ms-dos partition table format.
[05:54] <alankila> try to use anything else and you're probably in world of pain
[05:54] <Hilikus> alankila ok, got that. thanks
[05:54] <riverbird> wee_, have you tries the mic alone after a fresh reboot?
[05:54]  * alankila thinks even BIOS cares about the partition table format.
[05:55] <Hilikus> so now that i lost /home is there a way to recreate at least a default setup for home?
[05:55] <Hilikus> so now that i lost /home is there a way to recreate at least a default setup for home?
[05:55] <Oddbio> is there a IRC command to display a list of all users. In IRSSI especially in this channel with so many users, is there a sort of "less" command I can use with it to view all of them?
[05:55] <Kevin`> Hilikus: /etc/skel
[05:55] <wee_> riverbird: i have tryed to reinstall some times, switched to kubuntu. and same thing. i dont know is pavumeter --record is using alsa or not. but that dosent work. i tried mumble and that dosent work in alsa or oss. my output sound works very well
[05:55] <Hilikus> Kevin` what's that?
[05:56] <Kevin`> Hilikus: the files that get stuck in a new /home/user folder
[05:56] <agusj> anybody know how to install pc station
[05:56] <Hilikus> Kevin` so i should create a new /home folder with my user and then copy /etc/skel to it?
[05:57] <Jaikkuli> i don't know a lot about file systems, but i recall the difference between ext2 and ext3 would be the size/number of files stored, one better for lots of little files, one better for a small amount of bigger files, is this correct? and if so, which is better for lots of little files
[05:57] <Billiard> Hilikus: yeah
[05:57] <alankila> Jaikkuli: you must be confusing reiserfs here
[05:57] <Kevin`> Hilikus: be sure to make the folder and the files you copy into it owned by your user
[05:57] <cn28h> Jaikkuli, no, the difference is that ext3 has journaling
[05:57] <Dunas> Is there some way to make the stupid notifications disappear when I click on them, or to somehow customize the notification applet at all yet?
[05:58] <ganymede> Jaikkuli, ext3 also enables journaling, which ext2 lacks. journalling protects your data somewhat from unexpected shutdown
[05:58] <Hilikus> Billiard i'm guessing programs that had settings stored in /home like amarok will just recreate fresh settings right? or will they just fail because they don't find a settings file
[05:58] <Kevin`> Hilikus: chown -R user:user ~user, once your done
[05:58] <riverbird> man that netsplit is annoying ..
[05:58] <Billiard> Hilikus: they will recreate their settings
[05:58] <Hilikus> Kevin` ok
[05:58] <Hilikus> cool
[05:58] <Jaikkuli> ganymede: what's the tradeoff for this protection
[05:58] <Hilikus> thanks a lot guys
[05:58] <Kevin`> someone help me with installing ubuntu in xen?
[05:58] <alankila> ganymede: not data. It mostly exists to avoid fsck after boot. That is its primary function. Otherwise you could argue it's slower than ext2.
[05:59] <Gnarwal> riverbird, esp when you are in the middle of a conversation
[05:59] <ald85> español?
[05:59] <alankila> what it protects is something termed metadata consistency.
[05:59] <riverbird> wee_, from my experience, and i am no expert with sound issues, my guess is that there is an alsa/jack conflict.  once one get loaded, the other wont run and vice-versa
[05:59] <Gnarwal> !es > ald85
[05:59] <riverbird> Gnarwal, no doubt
[06:00] <AegNuddel> lol there
[06:00] <Jaikkuli> alankila: is this slowness significant?
[06:00] <AegNuddel> was not complicated like everything says
[06:00] <wee_> riverbird: okay, how do i set my input to alsa then ?
[06:00] <alankila> Jaikkuli: no. You would be crazy to use ext2 for that reason.
[06:00] <AegNuddel> was not on 9.10 anyway
[06:00] <Jaikkuli> alankila: what is a good reason to use ext2
[06:01] <alankila> well, it has been suggested that if you had a filesystem you would format at every reboot anyway only suitable for throwaway data, you might want to use ext2 for it, as it would be slightly faster.
[06:01] <alankila> but nobody in practice does this, of course.
[06:01] <riverbird> ald85, ##espanol
[06:01] <Oddbio> Can someone tell me what I would have to type into the terminal to run Ubuntu's Software Center?  Thanks
[06:01] <lstarnes> riverbird: #ubuntu-es
[06:01] <Jaikkuli> alankila: i see
[06:02] <Gnarwal> !es
[06:02] <Jaikkuli> thanks for the help guys
[06:02] <Hoppi> Oddbio: I believe "software-center"
[06:02] <riverbird> lstarnes, thx for correction
[06:02] <Hoppi> Oddbio: But I only got that by typing in "soft" and hitting TAB a couple of times to autocomplete it! :)
[06:02] <alankila> at one point people spoke about using ext2 for flash devices, perhaps before wear leveling. The problem with journals was that they keep on writing a lot of stuff on the journal and thus destroy the flash device. But that was before wear leveling was widely used.
[06:02] <Gluon> netsplit?
[06:03] <Oddbio> Hoppi: o.o lol  thanks
[06:03] <Gnarwal> netsplit spam
[06:03] <Jaikkuli> alankila: i see, well i was wanting to boot linux on an sdcard, though i wasnt sure yet, still had to read into it
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[06:04] <alankila> I run linux from an usb stick personally on my laptop. I use ext4 for it.
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[06:04] <pawan> hi
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[06:04] <pawan> not getting sound
[06:04] <Jaikkuli> alankila: i have not heard of ext4, is this better for running on such storage devices like usb sticks and sdcards?
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[06:04] <pawan> external sound card
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[06:05] <Gnarwal> !ops
[06:05] <alankila> Jaikkuli: it represents an evolution of the ext filesystem series, adding extents and improved journaling that avoids some costly sync operations that plague ext3 performance.
[06:05] <JustMozzy> I am having a big problem. I installed Cairo-Dock but now whenever I restart ciaro dock fails to start and block execution of anything else that should start-up (naming nautilus and gnome-panel which are pretty important) I could not even just restart or do anything because the cairo-dock maintenance window would always open itself over and over again. now I started ubuntu in gnome failsafe mode and tried to play around with the session settings but they 
[06:05] <ganymede> hah, that's smart, i never thought of that
[06:05] <ne171pro> cool
[06:05] <alankila> I personally believe ext2 and ext3 are legacy systems now and ext4 is the recommended default filesystem.
[06:05] <roved2101> Oh Pebbles thank you
[06:05] <Hoppi> what is ! ops?
[06:05] <ne171pro> how do i make my font bigger
[06:05] <ganymede> Hoppi, it's used to call a channel op to ban someone who is causing troubel
[06:05] <Hoppi> and also, how do i put something in like, orange alert... status :)
[06:06] <Hoppi> oh awesome :)
[06:06] <AegNuddel> I did not know a file system could just "evolve..." will it eventually develo its own AI? :P
[06:06] <AegNuddel> develop
[06:06] <Hoppi> AegNuddel: ......... yes.
[06:06] <Hoppi> hehehe
[06:06] <ganymede> Hoppi, it causes ubotu to paste a line consisting of the nicknames of the ops, which causes their IRC clients to pop up a notification in case they're in front of their comp
[06:06] <Jaikkuli> alankila: thanks, also one other thing, do you know any pages that will explain how to properly make storage devices bootable?
[06:06] <riverbird> wee_, not sure about that, someone else maybe .. are you using the sound recorder by distro default?
[06:07] <AegNuddel> Either a scary or interesting thought depending on if it develops for or against us
[06:07] <ne171pro> any body interested in a super secret document i found?  Its just a wave file.
[06:07] <alankila> Jaikkuli: no, but what it entails is: 1) bios knows about it; 2) it contains a boot sector that loads a boot loader; 3) some bioses may require that a partition is marked bootable.
[06:07] <IdleOne> ne171pro: no
[06:07] <ne171pro> dude it's crazy
[06:07] <IdleOne> !ot | ne171pro
[06:08] <ne171pro> sorry
[06:08] <Oddbio> I can't seem to run "alsamixer" and I have no sound. This is not the case in GNome, however I like to use the ratpoison window manager instead, but when I use ratpoison I have no sound and running "alsamixer" says:  alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[06:08] <alankila> Jaikkuli: so you basically make a single partition, flag it as bootable, copy a linux install on it and install grub, and then ensure that BIOS boots removeable media first... that's how I do it, anyway.
[06:09] <riverbird> AegNuddel, Hoppi oh geez, are we going to get into friendly ai here? .. ;-)
[06:09] <Hoppi> Oddbio: ... you could try starting the Gnome sound manager thing
[06:09] <Xeon3D> erm.. who called?
[06:10] <wee_> riverbird: im typing from kubuntu atm. so itryed a terminal recorder, but it seems that i dont have any input sound what so ever on my system. same as in ubuntu
[06:10] <alankila> Xeon3D: go back to sleep, someone just pasted the entire names list of the channel.
[06:10] <Hoppi> Oddbio: just to see if it works really :)
[06:10] <IdleOne> Xeon3D: it was a spam bot
[06:11] <Xeon3D> oh
[06:11] <Xeon3D> :)
[06:11] <Xeon3D> I'm a bit sleepy, but fiddling with 10-year old hardware rocks :)
[06:11] <Gnarwal> Xeon3D, false alarm :)
[06:11] <wee_> riverbird: when i look in menus i only find output, cant find anything that says input
[06:11] <Hoppi> owh the Kubuntu room is very quiet ._.
[06:11] <Oddbio> Hoppi: ok, sorry to ask but what would that be?  gnome-sound-manager?
[06:11] <Hoppi> Kubuntu ftw *waves little flag*
[06:11] <Hoppi> heh :)
[06:12] <riverbird> wee_, hmm.  dont thin i can help.  maybe re-ask a new question ..
[06:12] <Hoppi> Oddbio: erm... often you can just guess at some of it and hit TAB
[06:12] <riverbird> wee_, do you have 'sound recorder' in your sound/video?
[06:12] <ald85> i need some help the adobe flash player settings wont work no matter what i do, when i wanna broadcast my webcam in a webchat i just cant click the allow button
[06:12] <wee_> riverbird: no
[06:12] <isolat3dsh33p> ald85: try unabling compiz-fusion
[06:12] <alankila> ald85: you have 64-bit linux. Uninstall the flashplayer and get adobe's 64-bit alpha player
[06:13] <ald85> is there any command for that??
[06:13] <JustMozzy> can anyone help me? why does is the session not saved when I use the session manager in gnome failsafe mode? I need to have it saved so I can normally use my ubuntu in the default mode :s
[06:13] <riverbird> wee_, it's usually in ubuntu.  check to add/remove apps?
[06:13] <ald85> or where can i get it?
[06:13] <rojoloco47> hello
[06:13] <wee_> riverbird: i just installed pulseaudio manager. and that just list output under devices
[06:13] <rojoloco47> I need a little help with BIOS if some one can help me :)
[06:13] <Giertrud> oops had to reboot because of error 13
[06:14] <jonrob287> is there a software that u talk into the microphone and it types it out?
[06:14] <alankila> I appreciate the fact that ubuntu people (and world in general) reminds us all that 64-bit computing still sucks.
[06:14] <Hoppi> Oddbio: Problem is it's probably something to doo with the fact that Gnome sound's system isn't kicking in
[06:14] <Giertrud> held a key too long and my cursor was stuck on the file move thing
[06:14] <riverbird> wee_, does pulseaudio run jack/alsa?
[06:14] <Billiard> jonrob287: yes, but it doesnt work well
[06:14] <jonrob287> why not?
[06:14] <Hoppi> Oddbio: I mean you CAN run ALSA without it of course, and PulseAudio I would imagine, but I'm not so sure how, that's why I just sit here with KDE and Phonon sound system :)
[06:14] <widget> guys, i installed gSynaptics, but it didnt give me a touchpad Tab in the mouse settings
[06:14] <Billiard> jonrob287: because its still in development
[06:15] <riverbird> wee_, i don't use pulse, so no experience.  what is it you are trying to do with the mic input?
[06:15] <Giertrud> I wanted to know why no MIDI composers seem to work
[06:15] <ald85> whats the command for uninstalling flash??
[06:15] <Jaikkuli> can someone tell me what the raw ubuntu 9.1 size would be once installed?
[06:15] <ShazbotMcNasty> ald85, sudo apt-get purge flash-plugin
[06:15] <Hoppi> ald85: depends what flash plugin you have
[06:15] <rojoloco47> i have a netbook Acer Aspire One ZG5 and its screen is black and donot show anything on it ,I searched for the problem and other who have this problem is because of BIOS ,i have to update BIOS can some body help me in this ? :)
[06:15] <wee_> riverbird: im trying to make it work, so i can use it in mumble
[06:15] <jonrob287> thnx billiard
[06:16] <wee_> riverbird: how do i check if it runs jack/alsa ?
[06:16] <ald85> is there any command for installing the adobe 64 bit alpha player?
[06:16] <Jaikkuli> can someone tell me what the raw ubuntu 9.1 size would be once installed?
[06:16] <Hoppi> ald85: fire up synaptic for me :)
[06:16] <riverbird> Hoppi, pls check my chat w/ wee_ .  trying to figure out no mic/ sound input?
[06:16] <alankila> ald85: no, you fetch the .tar.gz from adobe and drop it into .mozilla/plugins at your home dir
[06:16] <rojoloco47> Please help or guide me from where I can get help ?
[06:16] <Oddbio> Hoppi: well I'm sure your advice was correct, because I wasn't getting wireless in ratpoison either until I added nm-applet (the gnome wireless applet) to startup
[06:16] <Dunas> Is there some way to make the stupid notifications disappear when I click on them, or to somehow customize the notification applet at all yet?
[06:16] <rojoloco47> #remote-exploit
[06:17] <Oddbio> Hoppi: I just have to figure out the correct command to run, thanks anyway
[06:17] <Hoppi> Oddbio: why do you want to use Ratpoison anyway? heh :)
[06:17] <widget> anyone know nwat im doing wrong ?
[06:17] <riverbird> Hoppi, maybe you know something about pulse and mumble?
[06:17] <Oddbio> Hoppi: i dunno, I just like it's simplicity
[06:17] <Hoppi> riverbird: I dunno, all I know is I have a lot of luck in KDE, that's why I use it
[06:17] <Hoppi> well, one of the reasons :)
[06:17] <riverbird> ok.
[06:18] <isolat3dsh33p> Dunas: The notigication is unclickable. If you click it, it will pass through to the window behind it
[06:18] <Billiard> rojoloco47: nothing appears on the screen when you turn it on, not even bios splash?
[06:18] <rojoloco47> yes @ Billiard
[06:18] <Hilikus> what's the recommended FS for /home?
[06:18] <Billiard> rojoloco47: sounds broken, use warranty
[06:18] <wee_> riverbird: where can i check if alc889a hd audio is supported
[06:18] <Billiard> Hilikus: ext3 or ext4
[06:18] <rojoloco47> nothing appeared
[06:19] <kenjy> guys can you help me? I have a intel 82801H sound card, the issue its that it just can play one sound at a time, I have ubuntu 9.10
[06:19] <riverbird> wee_,  maybe the forums?  also, are you running KDE?
[06:19] <ved> hey guys which of gnome n kde is better according to u?
[06:19] <Billiard> rojoloco47: still under warranty?
[06:19] <jonrob287> billiard what is the software called
[06:19] <rojoloco47> I have searched the google and all those who have this problem finds for solution and acer says its solution is to update BIOS @ Billiard
[06:19] <isolat3dsh33p> ved: You just have to try both
[06:19] <wee_> riverbird: yes im running kubuntu now. after trying ubuntu reinstalls a copple of times
[06:20] <Hoppi> wee_: I use basically the same sound hardware I think!
[06:20] <Hilikus> Billiard do you know of a recent comparison between ext4 and jfs or xfs?
[06:20] <Hoppi> wee_: onboard yeah?
[06:20] <excalibas> Hello, I just upgraded to karmic and there is something wrong with my codecs, all videos I see have switched colours (like blue ppl) in the movie player and in vlc. on mplayer ther look ok
[06:20] <rojoloco47> yeah its under warranty but I want to fix it as soon as possible @ Billiard ,I have exams going on and the resource data is in that hDD
[06:20] <wee_> hoppi: yes
[06:20] <ved> i tried kubuntu.. but something happened after updating it n i could login only to command line
[06:20] <Hoppi> wee_: ah, you are having problems with Phonon?
[06:20] <ShazbotMcNasty> rojoloco47, query window
[06:20] <riverbird> wee_, Hoppi i'm not on kubuntu.  you may have better luck ..
[06:20] <Billiard> rojoloco47: if you dont even get the bios splash screen, i would use the warranty
[06:20] <Hoppi> wee_: Phonon is the KDE sound system thingy ma jig :)
[06:21] <Hoppi> wee_: as long as your sound is enabled in BIOS, it should pick it up and be automatically set up, then all you need to do is a quick tweak/check in Multimedia and you should be away
[06:21] <riverbird> !phonon
[06:21] <wee_> hoppi: ahh, im using kubuntu now. yes =) it seems that i have no input sound what so ever. but i can hear my mic through my speakers.. and i can mute it. put i cant find any input stuff on the system
[06:22] <ShazbotMcNasty> !hi
[06:22] <Hoppi> wee_: uno momento :)
[06:22] <ved> try uninstalling pulseaudio... that worked for me
[06:22] <Billiard> Hilikus: i dont know of a comparison, i would use ext3, some people have experienced data loss with ext4
[06:22] <Hoppi> wee_: System Settings > Multimedia ... what are your sound devices?
[06:22] <Hoppi> nooo don't uninstall Pulse!
[06:22] <Hoppi> I like Pulse! ^_^
[06:22] <intel> hello there in the Xchat
[06:22] <riverbird> Hoppi, thx.
[06:23] <zenlunatic> intel, what it be like
[06:23]  * alankila recommends avoiding both jfs and xfs. jfs because of bad personal experience with high fragmentation of files, and xfs because it's so slow with file deletion and metadata in general.
[06:23] <intel> I a m new to Ubuntu so please someone guide me
[06:23] <wee_> hoppi: audio output and audio capture
[06:23] <Om3Ddragon> pulse sucks for me I use alsa better
[06:23] <ShazbotMcNasty> intel, what are you having problems with?
[06:24] <Hoppi> wee_: Oh, nothing that indicates drivers?
[06:24] <Hoppi> wee_: I have HDA Intel (ALC880 Analog)
[06:24] <wee_> hoppi: hda ati sb (alc889a digitl)
[06:24] <intel> well I am really new to this environment so I am wanting to play .Dat video file how do I play it in Ubuntu
[06:24] <intel> it is ubuntu 9.04
[06:24] <Hoppi> wee_:  that's your one :)
[06:25] <zenlunatic> intel, never heard of that file type
[06:25] <ShazbotMcNasty> I've never used a .dat file before
[06:25] <Xeon3D> intel, rename it to .mpg
[06:25] <Hoppi> wee_: ok erm, all I did was bung PulseAudio to the top of both categories and all the subcategories
[06:25] <ShazbotMcNasty> you can try that...
[06:25] <intel> how to that
[06:25] <Hoppi> wee_: And it's worked like a dream ever since :)
[06:25] <Xeon3D> zenlunatic: .dat files are from VCD times.
[06:25] <Hoppi> wee_: With my Sound Blaster and my onboard :)
[06:25] <ShazbotMcNasty> right click, click 'rename' and type .mpg at the end
[06:25] <dooglus> my cat walked over the keyboard while I was typing in pidgin
[06:25] <wee_> hoppi: your mic starts working ? ?=
[06:25] <dooglus> now I've lost the text cursor in one conversation tab
[06:26] <dooglus> I can type, but can't use the left key to move back over the text
[06:26] <dooglus> how can I get it back?
[06:26] <intel> ok I am trying it
[06:26] <Hoppi> wee_: Ah well I don't use mics, but all my speaker sound and program sounds, never an issue :)
[06:27] <alankila> dooglus: hmm... perhaps you are victim of SCIM... last time I hit that beast something like ctrl+space fixed it
[06:27] <wee_> hoppi: i dont have pulse audio under audio capture
[06:27] <alankila> but I'm not sure, I always uninstall that thing out of pure horror
[06:27] <dooglus> alankila: thanks
[06:27] <Hoppi> wee_: There is Playback/Recording with Pulse
[06:27] <intel> ok I am trying it can we network with XP when we are in ubuntu environment
[06:27] <dooglus> alankila: ctrl+spc didn't fix it
[06:27] <Hoppi> wee_: I just stuck that at the top
[06:27] <alankila> ok. Try alt+space as well, and some other modifiers just in case they changed that.
[06:28] <dooglus> alankila: alt+spc pops up a menu
[06:28] <nic3> dooglus: is ctrol+space supposed to open new tab?
[06:28] <alankila> Hmm. I wonder what menu.
[06:28] <dooglus> nic3: in pidgin?
[06:28] <wee_> hoppi: i cant see any playback/recording with pulse
[06:28] <alankila> oh. Window menu. Right.
[06:28] <nic3> in opera
[06:28] <alankila> I'm sorry, I do not know how to fix the problem. I only suspect SCIM because I remember how it used to turn text input impossible when you hit the scim activating combo
[06:29] <alankila> and when it used to be ctrl+space, that was like all the time
[06:29] <Hoppi> wee_: hmm odd
[06:29] <Hoppi> wee_: maybe that's the problem
[06:29] <intel> Shazb...... Can we get networked with xp when we are in Ubuntu
[06:29] <dooglus> nic3: I don't use opera
[06:29] <Hoppi> wee_: does normal sound work if you do the pulse trick though?
[06:29] <airtonix> !who alankila
[06:29] <wee_> hoppi: guess so. i have show advanced devices too
[06:29] <airtonix> !who | alankila
[06:30] <wee_> hoppi: give me 10sec and i will check
[06:30] <Hoppi> wee_: People always say to avoid Pulse like the plague, but yeah so long as I'm on KDE Pulse has given me an easy ride :)
[06:30] <dddemon> Anyone one know of a good irc room for support with php programming questions
[06:30] <cn28h> dddemon, #php?
[06:30] <intel> wee.......... Can we get networked with xp when we are working in Ubuntu or alt
[06:30] <dooglus> alankila: I would have missed what you said if airtonix hadn't mentioned the !who think.  if you put dooglus at the start, the line goes yellow for me and I notice it
[06:31] <Billiard> intel: you want to access windows file shares?
[06:31] <intel> yup
[06:31] <airtonix> alankila, dooglus tab completion in xchat
[06:31] <Billiard> intel: yes you can
[06:31] <intel> how
[06:31] <airtonix> intel, yes you can : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[06:31] <dddemon> cn28h everytime I try to get into that room it puts me in a overflow room
[06:32] <ShazbotMcNasty> intel, if you're trying to talk to someone, but don't want to type their whole name, if you're using xchat, type part of the name, then press TAB - and it will autocomplete the name
[06:32] <cn28h> dddemon, just worked fine for me
[06:32] <Billiard> intel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba#Browsing%20SMB%20shares
[06:33] <wee_> hoppi: no luck there. no output sound now
[06:33] <cn28h> dddemon, perhaps you need to identify with services?
[06:33] <airtonix> intel, this might also be helpful for you to understand the process : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4813148932443670673#
[06:33] <intel> Billiard, How to get it controlled
[06:34] <Billiard> intel: how to get what controlled?
[06:34] <outer_space> is there something in ubuntu that has a split window and goes to function definition text when you put the cursor on a function?
[06:34] <dddemon> maybe I did do regserv nick identify
[06:34] <intel> I mean how to start sharing
[06:34] <airtonix> outer_space, you mean a class browser for code editors ?
[06:34] <Billiard> intel: after installing samba, you should be able to right click a directory, and choose share
[06:35] <outer_space> no classes in c
[06:35] <spvensko_> hi, what's the ls option to view file contents in "human" measures? ie Mb, Gb, etc.
[06:35] <Hoppi> wee_: that is strange ._.I mean maybe you could follow their advice and ditch Pulse, but twould be a shame as it must have SOME advantages! hehe :)
[06:35] <outer_space> i have source-insight at work i want something like that at home
[06:35] <alankila> spvensko_: man ls? ls -lh probably.
[06:35] <wee_> hoppi: just got a notice sound from irc =)
[06:35] <spvensko_> alankila, i'm using a distro that doesn't provide the man pages by default :(
[06:35] <speme> which memory use data is right? I have some trouble with the system monitor told me used 449MB ram, but the 'free' command told me I use 931MB ram.
[06:35] <airtonix> outer_space, i dont know source-insight, but gedit has a plugin for class browsing on current file : geany also has one, and aptana also does it
[06:36] <spvensko_> sorry, i just find the ubuntu chat to be a good resource for info
[06:36] <Hoppi> wee_: hooray!
[06:36] <alankila> spvensko_: uninstall it, it must be horribly broken.
[06:36] <Hoppi> wee_: hehe
[06:36] <Om3Ddragon> Hoppi: alsa is way better for linux anyways pulse is windows
[06:36] <wee_> hoppi: hehe =)
[06:36] <spvensko_> alankila, it's not ubuntu, it's not supposed to come with man pages :(
[06:36] <spvensko_> *:)
[06:36] <Hoppi> Om3Ddragon: PulseAudio isn't windows...
[06:36] <airtonix> spvensko_, this is a ubuntu support channel
[06:36] <spvensko_> i realize but where else are you going to find 1272 linux users in one spot?
[06:37] <wee_> hoppi: but it seems that i only ger sound in quassel irc now
[06:37] <Hoppi> wee_: hehehe :)  that truly is odd!
[06:37] <outer_space> so i should install gedit-plugins?
[06:37] <airtonix> spvensko_, you can also use this incredibly simple set of keywords to search google for man pages : man <insert command name here>
[06:37] <alankila> speme: the answer is complicated, thus there is no one right answer. I suggest using the 2nd line in free as your guide, the value i free column
[06:37] <wee_> hoppi: can u try to whisper me again. i started up pulse audio again
[06:37] <Hoppi> wee_: if it were me I'd give KDE a restart sometime
[06:37] <Hoppi> wee_: can't hurt if it's settings have been changed
[06:38] <airtonix> spvensko_, http://www.google.com.au/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=man+ls
[06:38] <spvensko_> good point, i'll try that next tiem :) ty
[06:38] <wee_> hoppi: okay i will restart and be back and give a feedback =)
[06:38] <outer_space> i installed gedit-plugins, what are they supposed to do?
[06:38] <Hoppi> wee_: okie dokie -  KDE 4 is worth it ^_^
[06:38] <speme> alankila: thanks
[06:38] <riverbird> Hoppi, wee_ any proprietary drivers involved all this?
[06:38] <wee_> hoppi: idd =)
[06:39] <airtonix> outer_space, the class browser isn't in the repo. you need to download it from the gnome site
[06:39] <Hoppi> riverbird: I assume he's using the standard drivers like I am
[06:39] <airtonix> outer_space, http://live.gnome.org/Gedit/Plugins
[06:39] <wee_> riverbird: dont know. i only use the nvidia driver and restricted extras
[06:39] <alankila> speme: one way to view the value in the 2nd row of "free" output is that it is the amount of memory linux could easily free if it wanted to. However, it's a fact that if it did so, all applications would probably grind to halt
[06:39] <airtonix> outer_space, http://www.stambouliote.de/projects/gedit_plugins.html
[06:40] <outer_space> source-insight is a lot simpler than a class browser
[06:40] <riverbird> wee_, you have enables all the odd hardware?  you using 9.10?
[06:40] <outer_space> split-pane, curser in function = function def in split pane
[06:40] <wee_> riverbird: i will restart and see if what hoppi told me will work =)  im using the newest 9.10 kubuntu yes
[06:40] <riverbird> i have heard many issues w/ nvidia on 9.10 ..
[06:40] <airtonix> outer_space, well since you haven't provided either a screenshot or a page describing it i'm only assuming
[06:40] <riverbird> wee fyi.  check forums for more
[06:41] <outer_space> works with macro defs, typedefs, and var declarations
[06:41] <wee_> riverbird: nividia gpu. and sound issues ?
[06:41] <Om3Ddragon> Hoppi: PulseAudio runs under Microsoft Windows and POSIX-compliant systems like Linux. PulseAudio is free software released under the terms of the GNU Lesser General Public License (for the software library portion) and the GNU General Public License (for the sound server itself).
[06:41] <aegnuddel> a-sleeping I will go...
[06:42] <Hoppi> Om3Ddragon: ok
[06:42] <aegnuddel> bye
[06:42]  * alankila thinks it's a lie that pulseaudio runs under win32. The only build of that ever seems to be from 2007. No pulseaudio clients exist, and only one half-working ESD thingy is there.
[06:42] <airtonix> outer_space, i'm pretty sure that this image shows what you are describing : http://www.stambouliote.de/projects/img/gedit-classbrowser-070122.png
[06:42] <riverbird> wee_, no.  maybe the graphics card
[06:43] <airtonix> outer_space, good luck experimenting with all the text editors in the repositories and / or the gedit plugins at http://live.gnome.org/Gedit/Plugins
[06:44] <ald85> i installed the 64 bit flash and still not working
[06:44] <ald85> heeeeeeelp
[06:44] <Billiard> ald85: how did you install it?
[06:45] <kinja-sheep> ald85: How did you install Flash64?
[06:45] <ald85> uninstalled old flash
[06:45] <ald85> closed firefox
[06:45] <kinja-sheep> Billiard: Oh... I didn't see you. >_>
[06:45] <ald85> extracted the file
[06:45] <EastDallas> ald85: not working at all?
[06:45] <Billiard> ald85: keep it on one line
[06:45] <intel> Thank you Friends...... I got it
[06:45] <ald85> installed it and autocopied the files to the firefox folders
[06:45] <Om3Ddragon> ald85: flash media player or what flast are you talking about
[06:45] <airtonix> !enter | ald85
[06:46] <Billiard> ald85: does flash work at all now?
[06:46] <skitzo> hi guys just installed ubuntu and am loving it so far just a bit hard to wrap my head around at first is it okay if i get a little help on a couple things?
[06:46] <Jaikkuli> what is a recommended swap partition size?
[06:46] <kinja-sheep> skitzo: Sure. Welcome! Ask away!
[06:46] <ald85> ok ok sorry, yes it works for youtube but when i go to a site where i can use mic or camera it doesnt work
[06:46] <wee> hoppi: hmms, now its realy screwed up =) no sound what so ever
[06:46] <Billiard> ald85: did you try disabling compiz?
[06:47] <ald85> dont even know whats that
[06:47] <Billiard> ald85: the special effects
[06:47] <excalibas> please help, I upgraded to karmic and now when I play movies the colours are changed
[06:47] <ald85> and how can i do that?
[06:47] <skitzo> first off the most important thing i would like to do first is hide my windows 7 partition so it cant be messed with in anyway
[06:48] <EastDallas> ald85: go to System>Preferences>appearance>Visual Effects tab> choose none
[06:48] <Billiard> ald85: the problem is that you cant click on the flash settings box?
[06:48] <ald85> yes billiard
[06:48] <Hoppi> wee: for one thing, the kubuntu channel may be a better place to ask for help.. also I guess last resort is removing Pulse, or hunting down better drivers but I think you already have the right ones
[06:48] <alankila> ald85: and this is the problem that I saw when 64-bit firefox was embedding 32-bit flash through nspluginwrapper.
[06:49] <alankila> hence my suggestion to drop the 32-bit flash monster that stupid ubuntu people forced on us and instead get the working 64-bit alpha flash.
[06:49] <Om3Ddragon> ald85: try to install ubuntu restricted extras everything work for me
[06:49] <ald85> ive installed the restricted extras
[06:50] <skitzo> anybody :)
[06:50] <alankila> skitzo: err... comment out the line in fstab that mounts it?
[06:50] <airtonix> excalibas, provide : ubuntu version, media player being used
[06:50] <wee> hoppi: gees, kde freeks me out some times. it seems that things pops up in the menus rigth and left some times. i got some new pulse audio tools now. i will try them out some. thx for your help =)
[06:50] <ald85> ok i disabled the visual effects and still not working
[06:50] <airtonix> excalibas, gnome or kde ?
[06:51] <Om3Ddragon> 64 flash is just better then anything now
[06:51] <EastDallas> skitzo: do you have Ubuntu installed on a separate partition, or in a virtual partition?
[06:51] <alankila> ald85: are you sure you did manage to install the 64-bit flash? Did you really cause the browser to restart? Maybe you had some window or downloads screen still open.
[06:51] <skitzo> seperate
[06:51] <excalibas> airtonix, ubuntu 9.10 , totem, gnome
[06:51] <indus> Om3Ddragon: have you tried the latest 64 bit , dec 9 release
[06:51] <skitzo> separate
[06:51] <ald85> no i closed everything
[06:52] <rojoloco47> Hey how does a Ubuntu server work ? is it only the black screen with some white text ?
[06:52] <indus> rojoloco47: yes
[06:52] <excalibas> airtonix, I have just upgraded, before it was ok
[06:52] <indus> rojoloco47: but you can install a gui
[06:52] <airtonix> excalibas, inside totem , goto the edit menu > preferences
[06:52] <alankila> ald85: ok. Weird. The nonresponsive UI problem went away when I dropped the 32-bit flash for me. But before I did nothing ever worked, I couldn't click on any flash ui elements.
[06:52] <rojoloco47> how can I install a gui in that @ indus
[06:52] <Oddbio> Is there any command like "startx" that can be used to 'stop x'? ctrl-alt-backspace doesn't work. Also "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop" won't work as I am not using GDM, I do "startx" from the terminal to bring up my window manager
[06:52] <EastDallas> you just need to do like alankila said and comment out the lines in fstab.  Do you know what he means?
[06:52] <indus> rojoloco47: sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg
[06:53] <airtonix> excalibas, display tab > move the hue slider around. (down the bottom)
[06:53] <indus> !server
[06:53] <damian> anyone knows maybe how to stop ubuntu karmic asking for password to access ntfs drives?
[06:53] <rojoloco47> I had ubuntu server 9.10 installed on this system but there was nothing I could do so I just formatted it again
[06:53] <Billiard> damian: add an entry to your fstab for the partition
[06:53] <indus> rojoloco47: why did you install it?
[06:53] <rojoloco47> Ok thanks a lot ,I will try it now :) @ indus
[06:53] <kinja-sheep> !dontzap | Oddbio
[06:53] <rojoloco47> I like to experience new things
[06:53] <riverbird> Jaikkuli, used to be 2x memory, but now 256k-2gb is fine
[06:53] <kinja-sheep> Oddbio: See if that does the trick for you.
[06:53] <rojoloco47> @ indus
[06:54] <excalibas> airtonix, it was at the bottom, but in the middle the color is fine, thanks a lot, I would never go there
[06:54] <indus> rojoloco47: server installs are meant to be without gui ,gui add extra security and stability/speed issues
[06:54] <Jaikkuli> riverbird: thanks
[06:54] <damian> thanks Billiard, i google from there on :)
[06:54] <airtonix> excalibas, it just needs to be moved to get totem to listen to your preferences again after an update is all
[06:54] <indus> rojoloco47: ok if you want a gui fine, but you wont have any applications running on it
[06:54] <Jaikkuli> riverbird: why doesn't windows require swap partitions?
[06:54] <alankila> Jaikkuli: it grows a swap file dynamically.
[06:54] <indus> rojoloco47: ubuntu-desktop is the package you will need probably
[06:54] <airtonix> Jaikkuli, it does, but it uses a swap file
[06:55] <alankila> Linux doesn't need swap partitions either, really. Dynamic swap files exist also for linux. It's just not customary to use them.
[06:55] <Oddbio> kinja-sheep: thank you, that's exactly what I need
[06:55] <rojoloco47> can we setup DHCP, Active Director, DNS and WINS etc on Server or Desktop ? @ indus
[06:55] <indus> rojoloco47: please read the link
[06:55] <Jaikkuli> alankila: ah alright :) thanks
[06:55] <indus> rojoloco47: yes sure
[06:55] <kinja-sheep> Oddbio: You're welcome. :)
[06:55] <indus> !server | rojoloco47
[06:55] <airtonix> Jaikkuli, http://www.linux.com/news/software/applications/8208-all-about-linux-swap-space
[06:55] <alankila> Jaikkuli: of course, I no longer use any swap files or partitions. All I do is enable ramzswap because it works just fine to extend RAM and makes recovery from memory hogs much faster than with disk-based swap
[06:55] <riverbird> wee, good luck
[06:55] <rojoloco47> Ok I check it now thanks @ indus
[06:56] <excalibas> airtonix, that was cool
[06:56] <ManDay> Why does network manager keep asking me to unlock the Keyring for it???
[06:56] <rojoloco47> Can I ask one common question here ,about this linux thing ?
[06:56] <sri_> how to check which ports are open in my system??? any command??
[06:56] <alankila> Jaikkuli: I especially shake head at people who make something like 10 GB swap partitions. Doing something like that only means that linux will trash a long, long time before it finally recovers from a memory hog.
[06:56] <airtonix> ManDay, because it is a system wide setting
[06:56] <ManDay> Everytime I return from hibernation and it tries to reconnect
[06:56] <Jaikkuli> can xp be told to acknowledge swap partitions?
[06:56] <i_is_broke> alankila, and how much ram do  you have installed(safe to say not to use swap)?
[06:56] <airtonix> Jaikkuli, no
[06:56] <Billiard> Jaikkuli: what would you do with it?
[06:56] <alankila> i_is_broke: I have 2 GB on the system.
[06:56] <ManDay> airtonix, it should remember the authorization tho, airtonix
[06:57] <rojoloco47> I want to know what OS i should learn ,for my better future JOB ?
[06:57] <i_is_broke> alankila, thank you thats what im getting ready to order
[06:57] <chrispitzer> is there any way I can tell which application is sending data out over my network?
[06:57] <Jaikkuli> Billiard: ... swap? :)
[06:57] <alankila> i_is_broke: but I have experimented ramzswap for 1 GB, where it also works quite well, and I have a very weak system with only 128 MB which needs some 64 MB compcache + 64 MB real swap to run lxde comfortably.
[06:57] <airtonix> ManDay, why ?
[06:57] <kinja-sheep> rojoloco47: You're new and does not have any experiences with linux. Start with Ubuntu or Fedora.
[06:57] <Jaikkuli> alankila: 10 gig, damn that's overkill
[06:57] <chrispitzer> ie - I think duplicity is doing a backup in the background - and I have 100kBps going out, but I'm not sure that duplicity is sending the data...
[06:58] <indus> rojoloco47: ubuntu is good, but later move to redhat and do some certificate the RHCE
[06:58] <kinja-sheep> chrispitzer: nethogs.
[06:58] <indus> !CERTIFICATION
[06:58] <ManDay> Because it's annoying! Does your network manager ask you for a password for the d/k/r every time you connect to your WLAN? airtonix
[06:58] <alankila> i_is_broke: how much RAM you want/need is a matter of more than what I say. If 4 GB is cheap, by all means buy 4 GB. But I have found that 2 GB suffices well for all my tasks, involving java development that is traditionally very memory hungry activity.
[06:58] <ManDay> because mine at least did use to
[06:58] <i_is_broke> alankila, thats what im running now is lxde and i have 1280 meg of ram and i never get below 400 meg of ram and never touch the swap.
[06:58] <riverbird> Jaikkuli, ?? don't use it.
[06:58] <airtonix> ManDay, i don't use wireless networking out of concern for security and quality of network connection
[06:58] <rojoloco47> I am trying to understand ubuntu for last 3 months ,then I tried backtrack4 suse linux enterprise 11 and now I have redhat 5 enterprise with ubuntu 9.10
[06:58] <Jaikkuli> riverbird: dont use what?
[06:59] <kinja-sheep> ManDay: It ask you for the key because you use AutoLogin.
[06:59] <indus> airtonix: wireless is secure as you want it to be
[06:59] <ManDay> airtonix, I do, because its indepensable
[06:59] <airtonix> indus, no
[06:59] <rojoloco47> Will fedora 12 help me to learn redhat ?
[06:59] <ManDay> kinja-sheep, can you elaborate that?
[06:59] <indus> if its not, the wi- fi group would like to hear from you
[06:59] <alankila> i_is_broke: yes... I'd say that > 1 GB you can pretty safely rely solely on ramzswap... Put another way, the system is pretty useless anyway if it starts to swap on disk. Ramzswap works the better the more memory you have.
[07:00] <riverbird> Jaikkuli, don't use windows ..  the kernel uses swap - no kernel in windows
[07:00] <kinja-sheep> ManDay: When you boot up, do you type in user/password at GDM?
[07:00] <i_is_broke> alankila, is that ramzswap something in the repos or do i have to manually install it?
[07:00] <ManDay> kinja-sheep, yes
[07:01] <Om3Ddragon> who wanna try the the new alpha 1 for ubuntu or installed tell me how is it to try I t
[07:01] <alankila> i_is_broke: it is installed but configured at 0 % usage (disabled). Enabling it is usually done by modifying /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf and setting some value to COMPCACHE_SIZE
[07:01] <Jaikkuli> riverbird: you're telling me not to use windows?
[07:01] <alankila> I use "50 %" as the value. Then you need to rebuilt the initramfs images... was it update-initramfs -u -k all
[07:01] <kinja-sheep> ManDay: http://lifehacker.com/software/ubuntu/stop-nm+applet-from-authenticating-with-the-keyring-276986.php
[07:01] <i_is_broke> Om3Ddragon, depends on hardware right now if it will work or not..best bet is not to put it on a production box unless you vm it.
[07:01] <miles95> join/#rsbot
[07:01] <kinja-sheep> ManDay: It is from 2007. I don't know if that still work. :X
[07:02]  * alankila 's phone also runs with compcache
[07:02] <indus> airtonix: use the wpa2
[07:02] <indus> but iam no expert so ill give you benefit of doubt
[07:02] <ManDay> kinja-sheep, the weird thing is that it only happens in a few cases. not everytime i boot/login
[07:02] <zero-1> Hi, everyone
[07:02] <i_is_broke> Om3Ddragon, but that is offtopic in this channel please see ubuntu+1 ty
[07:03] <zero-1> how can I get gecko-sharp on my ubuntu box?
[07:03] <ManDay> airtonix, to my knowledge there is no way of cracking WPA2 yet, besides you can always add another layer of encryption, if you deem it unsafe
[07:03] <zero-1> I need it for a mono app that I'm working on
[07:03] <riverbird> Jaikkuli, no. no .  i am saying that I do not use windows
[07:03] <kinja-sheep> ManDay: Gotcha. I'm trying this for my laptop.  Also, it is common practice to prevent any authorization tasks --- including editing date/time. Wireless = Network. Prevent guys from messing around with network settings.
[07:03] <alankila> zero-1: a wild guess: libmono-webbrowser0.5-cil ?
[07:04] <alankila> zero-1: if that's not it, then sorry for wasting your time, couldn't find anything more suitable
[07:04] <Optimus55> how do i update firefox to the latest version in karmic?
[07:04] <ald85> how can i restore ubuntu from the original settings
[07:04] <i_is_broke> alankila, thank you for the info..
[07:05] <zero-1> alakila nope that's not it I have it installed yet I cant find gecko-sharp dll and its no listed :( that package used to be named gecko-sharp, now I cant find it :(
[07:05] <ald85> sorry restore ubuntu to the original settings i ment
[07:05] <isolat3dsh33p> Optimus55: Download the latest version from Fx website
[07:05] <alankila> i_is_broke: I have found with testing on my very weak 128 MB system that 50 % compcache seems to give the best results. Incidentally, that is also the default setting for my phone independently arrived at by some other folks.
[07:05] <riverbird> alankila, re:swap.  i thought the kernel relied on swap.  what's this ramzwap??
[07:06] <Billiard> ald85: if you want to restore all your user settings, they are stored in your home directory in hidden subdirectories/files, just move them somewhere else
[07:06] <alankila> riverbird: kernel doesn't rely on swap. It's just one of the options that it benefits from when it needs to free more memory.
[07:06] <tuxd> can someone help me install a tarball.gz?
[07:06] <ved> guys network manager doesnt connect with my 3g data card
[07:06] <alankila> riverbird: ramzswap aka compcache is ram-only swap device that consists of gzip-compressed memory pages.
[07:06] <ved> anyway to fix this?
[07:07] <apocalypt> tuxd: what's the problem
[07:07] <tuxd> apocalypt: I'm not good a command line
[07:07] <amitz> what's the code name of 10.4? Decided yet?
[07:07] <ved> lucid lynx
[07:07] <ved> :D
[07:07] <Om3Ddragon> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/install-tarballs/
[07:07] <amitz> lex luthor :-p
[07:08] <alankila> riverbird: it is especially useful for low bandwidth, low memory systems that need a way to extend virtual memory. It takes a lot of time to write a memory page to disk-like device, at the order of 10 milliseconds usually. In contrast, it takes mere microseconds to compress a page and store it in RAM. So it's easily a net benefit.
[07:08] <alankila> even though the compressed pages themselves increase memory pressure.
[07:08] <amitz> it's cute. What page I should check for the latest announcement for the newest ubuntu code name?
[07:08] <intel> I need some extreme themes for ubuntu 9.04..... Someone HELP !!!
[07:08] <tuxd> apocalypt: I got to the dir  [cd dir] and did ./configure... when I try make it won't
[07:08] <amitz> s/check/subscribe to/
[07:08] <riverbird> alankila, can you run w/o ramzwap and no swap? or do you need one or the other?
[07:09] <alankila> riverbird: linux is able to cope without swap.
[07:09] <apocalypt> tuxd: did u read the README?
[07:09] <amitz> riverbird: indeed. No swap is recommended if your RAM memory is enough.
[07:09] <kinja-sheep> amitz: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_%28operating_system%29#Releases
[07:09] <alankila> in fact, I used to run without swap before ramzswap was invented. I noticed that swapping only meant that memory hogs tended to trash the system for very long periods, like 10 minutes, before finally getting killed
[07:09] <riverbird> alankila, my misunderstanding then.  i habe 1.5 ram and 2 swp
[07:09] <tuxd> apocalypt:  it has an INSTALL file I have open
[07:10] <alankila> so I disabled swap to hasten the period when linux realizes that a process it out of control and must be killed.
[07:10] <amitz> ved: uh, you're not joking. Sorry :-)
[07:10] <riverbird> alankila, amitz what is defined as 'enough?
[07:10] <amitz> kinja-sheep: oh, I thought there is an official source?
[07:10] <alankila> riverbird: but when ramzswap arrived, I realized it's better than no swap: it does extend virtual memory and it still keeps the benefit of no disk trashing.
[07:10] <apocalypt> tuxd: u need to compile it. before ./configure , make, make install u need to install build-essentials
[07:11] <intel> is there any newer theme than mac4Lin so that it will make my ubuntu better in personality development
[07:11] <kinja-sheep> amitz: There are http://planet.ubuntu.com/ but that's more of a hybrid blog for all developers/contributors to blog in.
[07:11] <amitz> riverbird: no standard AFAIK. My rule of thumb is basically as long as I don't run out of memory.
[07:11] <alankila> riverbird: enough? enough swap? I think enough swap is generally 0k for systems which have gigabytes of physical RAM. That's my take on the issue. Swapping is the less useful the more real memory you have.
[07:11] <riverbird> amitz, 1.5gb?
 u mean theres no fix for that?
[07:12] <i_is_broke> alankila, i just thought that my swap partition is just sitting there doing nothing..but i didnt know if i could get by without it, as fast as programs are growing an using memory i just didnt want to delete it and have nothing.
[07:12] <amitz> riverbird: It really depends on your usual activity. I have 2GB and its more than enough. It seems I only use up to 1GB daily, unless I open IDE>
[07:12] <i_is_broke> alankila, but i will look into this.ty very much.
[07:12] <riverbird> alankila, how to enable ramzwap?
[07:12] <alankila> i_is_broke: yes, it is a reasonable concern. But I believe that having swap doing nothing increases the risk of runaway processes causing bad behavior.
[07:12] <amitz> ved: woah? I didn't say that. About there is no fix for that.
[07:12] <tuxd> apocalypt: when I was on the ubuntu official documentation pages, the link to 'build-essentials' said I had it installed (though I didn't do it manually myself).   I'm kind of a noob in terms of doing things from scratch.  If it's in the Synaptic, I'm all set, but I want to learn more than that.
[07:13] <alankila> riverbird: it needs change in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf, there's a line about COMPCACHE. I'd suggest a value like 50 %. Then rebuild initramfs images with "update-initrams -u -k all".
[07:13] <amitz> riverbird: I'm on debian but it should be similar enough.
[07:13] <apocalypt> tuxd: in README there u can read if u need to compile the package or if there is a bash to install this package. at first u have to upack tar.gz with "sudo tar xvfz file.tar.gz"
[07:14] <lilsnoop> can sed removed unwanted lines of text?
[07:14] <riverbird> alankila, that seems all well beyond me.  a wiki page of how-to's??
[07:14] <alankila> i_is_broke: the tighest I run is a 32-bit linux on 1 GB laptop... with eclipse, java servlet container and firefox, email, gnome, etc open it really pushes to swap, often to the tune of 100-200 MB. Despite this, it's perfectly responsive system.
[07:14] <alankila> riverbird: I do not know of such.
[07:14] <aquarius> I have a jaunty server; "sudo do-release-upgrade" says "After your package information was updated the essential package 'ubuntu-minimal' can not be found anymore." There are LP bugs about this, but they suggest it's been fixed. What can I do to diagnose?
[07:14] <petro> ciao
[07:15] <riverbird> maybe leave well enough alone ..
[07:15] <alankila> riverbird: I view my tweak more as an advanced configuration setting anyway. It's very useful to me because as a developer I keep on making mistakes with code... and those sometimes cause infinite memory usage.
[07:15] <apocalypt> tuxd: did u try to find that package in repository maybe u can install it through apt-get or aptitude from the repository
[07:15] <kinja-sheep> amitz: Perhaps http://feeds2.feedburner.com/canonical-news
[07:16] <i_is_broke> riverbird i just copied and pasted everything to leafpad..lol
[07:16] <tuxd> apocalypt: is that different from extracting?
[07:16] <amitz> kinja-sheep: hmm, that one should be updated enough. Thanks. This will be for future releases :-)
[07:16] <Om3Ddragon> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/install-tarballs/
[07:16] <pawan> hi
[07:17] <Om3Ddragon> use that link
[07:17] <i_is_broke> alankila, i think there should be a how-to on this subject as a lot of people dont know about it.
[07:17] <kinja-sheep> amitz: And it does not blog too much, which is a good thing. :o
[07:17] <riverbird> i_is_broke, did i break a rule?
[07:17] <i_is_broke> riverbird, no i was just telling you what i did..lol
[07:17] <apocalypt> tuxd: that's complete different because it doesn't use your tar.gz file.it will install a package from repository. which program u want to install?
[07:17] <alankila> some people on this channel might tell me about how ulimit can fix runaway processes, but they are sadly telling a lie. Too many applications allocate lots of virtual RAM, and ulimit can limit that. But only a few ever actually materialize all the RAM they allocate. So ulimit proved unsatisfactory to me.
[07:17] <amitz> kinja-sheep: noted. Too many messages are overwhelming :-)
[07:17] <i_is_broke> so i would have the way to change the settings.
[07:17] <Polysics> hello
[07:17] <n00p> guys I got these errors in ubuntu karmic when running apt-get upgrade: http://pastebin.org/65497
[07:18] <riverbird> i_is_broke, why? is it relevant to something else?  just curious.  not familiar w/ leafpad
[07:18] <i_is_broke> oh its like notepad
[07:18] <n00p> are they anything to worry about?
[07:18] <Polysics> do i need to remove the nvidia packages before installing the proprietary drivers?
[07:18] <pawan> pci sound card not giving sound
[07:18] <pawan> ectiva
[07:18] <n00p> and how do I go about errm, fixing the errors that took place during that upgrade?
[07:18] <riverbird> ditto then.  i did too.  lol
[07:18] <pawan> ev1938
[07:18] <Polysics> i have installed 4GB of RAM and need to use the PAE kernel, but the packaged drivers don't play nice with that
[07:18] <sri_> how to monitoring client system any application???
[07:18] <Billiard> Polysics: if you are using nvidia's installer from there site, i would uninstall first
[07:18] <tuxd> apocalypt:  wp tray 0.5.4  wallpaper changer
[07:18] <i_is_broke> riverbird, i have a computer with only 512 ram in it and i thought i would use it on it.
[07:19] <Polysics> Billiard, no, currently i have the apt nvidia drivers
[07:19] <Billiard> Polysics: but i would just use the nvidia drivers package from the package manager
[07:19] <Om3Ddragon> pawan: witch sound card you got there
[07:19] <riverbird> alankila, thx.  i am a common user with simple needs.  i'll let enough be.  thx for the session
[07:19] <amitz> sri_: you mean how to monitor what application?
[07:19] <Polysics> Billiard, apparently that does not play nice with the PAE kernel
[07:19] <pawan> ev1938
[07:19] <pawan> ectiva
[07:19] <Polysics> in fact, i am running in recovery mode right now
[07:19] <alankila> i_is_broke: I'd think that around 256 - 768 MB is the sweet spot for ramzswap. It really improves the behavior. Beyond 1 GB you don't really swap that much in practice, and with less than about 256 MB not even ramzswap can recover the system, although I would argue it still helps.
[07:19] <sri_> in Ubuntu is there any commands or application to monitoring a client???
[07:20] <Polysics> Billiard, it's also apparently due to the fact this is an upgrade from 9.04, not a clean install
[07:20] <Polysics> doesn't matter THAT much as in a week i will have a new HD and reinstall, but hey :-)
[07:20] <Billiard> Polysics: ok, well i would uninstall first, if you plan on using nvidias installer
[07:20] <Polysics> i want my 4Gb :-)
[07:20] <apocalypt> tuxd: try in terminal "sudo aptitude install wallpaper-tray" it could be what u want
[07:20] <Polysics> Billiard, ok, that's what i needed to know :-)
[07:20] <amitz> sri_: what do you mean by client? PCs in a network? What kind of monitoring you want?
[07:23] <Polysics> btw, how do i know if my system would support 64 bit Ubuntu?
[07:23] <tuxd> apocalypt:  msg from terminal says "unable to lock administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?"
[07:23] <Polysics> and would running 64 bit have any special advantage?
[07:23] <alankila> Polysics: depends on CPU, I guess. Which CPU do you have?
[07:23] <Polysics> other than supporting more RAM
[07:24] <apocalypt> tuxd: close synaptic or the package manager u have open in the X enviroment
[07:24] <Billiard> Polysics: cat /proc/cpuinfo  yes, some things are faster in 64bit
[07:24] <Polysics> alankila, Core 2 Duo T5600 (1,83 GHz, 667 MHz FSB, 2MB L2 Cache)
[07:24] <Billiard> Polysics: that cpu is 64 bit capable
[07:24] <kinja-sheep> Polysics: Why wouldn't you take full advantage of your processors? It is useful in heavy CPU usage such as encoding DVDs, music editing, video editing, etc.
[07:25] <xpot> Help: having a problem getting screen refresh on 9.10 upgrade.  Any suggestions how to fix this?
[07:25] <alankila> Polysics: well, that is a 64-bit cpu as far as I know. I personally don't think the mythical improved performance from 64-bit code really materializes for many tasks. 64-bit executables are bigger and 64-bit pointers take double the RAM of 32-bit ones
[07:25] <alankila> depending on workload it's a win or lose.
[07:25] <Polysics> i do web development and firmware programming as a job
[07:25] <pawan> not getting sound from pci sound card
[07:25] <sri_> ya.. PCs in a network... What ports are open in their system..
[07:25] <Polysics> this laptop is not used for anything else
[07:25] <Om3Ddragon> Billiard: everything is faster in 64 bit system
[07:26] <Polysics> sri_, you are looking for "nmap"
[07:26] <pawan> ectiva ev1938
[07:26] <Polysics> will using 64 bit have some packages that don't work? i don't need much, aside from apache, php, ruby
[07:26] <Billiard> Polysics: ive found overall my system was faster using 64bit, also using more than 3.x GB in x86 mode with pae is like a hack
[07:26] <alankila> Om3Ddragon: that is, sadly, a lie.
[07:26] <xpot> Help: having a problem using vino getting screen refresh on 9.10 upgrade.  Any suggestions how to fix this? (2.6.31-17-generic #54-Ubuntu i686)
[07:26] <sri_> how to use nmap - Polysics
[07:27] <Polysics> well, i am getting my new HD later, guess i will just install 64bit 9.10 and take a look :-9
[07:27] <Om3Ddragon> Polysics: almost anything work now for 64 bit
[07:27] <alankila> Polysics: there are some media codecs that are not available for 64 bits, I guess. Mostly you run trouble with non-free software. Some free software projects have bad support for 64-bit, though, like mono doesn't do all in 64-bit the 32-bit version can do, and java used to lack behind 32-bit version as well... and firefox doesn't have jit...
[07:27] <Polysics> sri_, nmap is a monster of a program, but you can take a look at http://nmap.org/book/man.html
[07:27] <vitaminx101> is anyone having trouble with firefox taking forever to look up webpages on 9.10?
[07:27] <Seven_Six_Two> Polysics, I use 9.10 64 bit, and it runs faster for most things. I haven't had any issues so far.
[07:28] <alankila> Java has improved its act on 64 bits, though, so I can no longer say that you have a disadvantage if you need java apps on 64-bit system.
[07:28] <Polysics> alankila, all i need is mp3 support for web radios and Firefox to work
[07:28] <n00p> guys I got these errors in ubuntu karmic when running apt-get upgrade: http://pastebin.org/65497
[07:28] <Polysics> i don't even go NEAR java, for some years now
[07:28] <n00p> are they anything to worry about?
[07:28] <kinja-sheep> vitaminx101: In the terminal, "firefox -safe-mode"
[07:28] <alankila> Polysics: ok. Well, you will be hurt by slower javascript but mp3 certainly works.
[07:28] <n00p> and how do I go about errm, fixing the errors that took place during that upgrade?
[07:28] <Om3Ddragon> if you are a gamer you need to go for 64 bit
[07:28] <Polysics> never ever needed java after learning ruby :-)
[07:28] <vitaminx101> kinja-sheep: will that affect my browsing at all?
[07:28] <Polysics> Om3Ddragon, gaming is something i most certainly do not do
[07:29] <n00p> Polysics: then you never learnt Java properly.
[07:29] <su2873> hi, i have been trying to remove hidden partition from grub but everytime I run grub-update2; the hidden partition is automatically added to grub.cfg eveytime.
[07:29] <apocalypt> tuxd: u got it?
[07:29] <kinja-sheep> vitaminx101: Close the Firefox first. Run that command.  If the websites are loading fast for you, then it is one of the extensions.
[07:29] <Polysics> n00p, i respectfully disagree, i did 2 years of professional development as head of a 4 person team :-)
[07:29] <Polysics> not counting the time before :-)
[07:29] <iceroot_> Om3Ddragon: there is not one game needing more then 4gb ram or generally a 64bit cpu
[07:29] <n00p> not enough, Polysics.
[07:29] <MikeChelen> anyone know a fast document search utility like google desktop?
[07:29] <Om3Ddragon> yes there is
[07:30] <n00p> I did 3 months of C# and I can see those benefits of Java over Ruby.
[07:30] <tuxd> apocalypt: it seemed to do it's thing from terminal, but I'm not sure where to access the program now
[07:30] <kinja-sheep> MikeChelen: Gnome-Do is nice for that.
[07:30] <Polysics> n00p, a language that requires more than 1 year to learn, is a bad language
[07:30] <Om3Ddragon> actually im a pro gamer
[07:30] <iceroot_> !ot | Om3Ddragon
[07:30] <Polysics> languages are means to an end, not an end
[07:30] <riverbird> Polysics, n00p not the java debate channel.  sorry
[07:30] <Polysics> riverbird, absolutely true, sorry
[07:30] <vitaminx101> kinja-sheep: wow man worked like a charm!! thanks so much spent like 2 hours yesterday going through forums and people are having issues with it but almost every fix did not work for me. Thanks again :)
[07:30] <MikeChelen> kinja-sheep: gnome-do is good for quick app launches, does it support document indexing?
[07:30] <n00p> Polysics: C# took me less than a month to learn, Java is very similar. Ruby has a lot to learn, too. That's all I will say on the matter.
[07:30] <apocalypt> tuxd: after install the tray should be on your panel
[07:31] <kinja-sheep> MikeChelen: In the plugins, you will find.
[07:31] <aquarius> MikeChelen, try running the Tracker Search Tool
[07:31] <kinja-sheep> vitaminx101: Now you'll have to toggle on one-by-one. Let me know which extension is it!
[07:32] <tuxd> apocalypt: that's what I thought...but I see date/time, volume, network connection, and screenlet mgr... no new icons
[07:32] <Polysics> one slightly-OT thing: does Virtualbox run on 64bit? i need that
[07:32] <apocalypt> tuxd: if it doesn't work try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=803103 or that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WallpaperTray
[07:32] <Polysics> or any free virtual machine package
[07:32] <iceroot_> Polysics: yes
[07:32] <four> question: how do i unlock the default keyring permanantly?
[07:32] <kinja-sheep> Polysics: Native 64bit? I don't know but yes we have VirtualBox.
[07:33] <kinja-sheep> four: http://lifehacker.com/software/ubuntu/stop-nm+applet-from-authenticating-with-the-keyring-276986.php
[07:33] <Polysics> i hate having to install XP just for IE8, but that's the way of the web developer :-)
[07:33] <n00p> Polysics: I don't see why it wouldn't. It's available opensource, so you could compile it if it's not available as an x64 package.
[07:33] <iceroot_> Polysics: with vt-x or amd-v its running 64bit systems too
[07:33] <Seven_Six_Two> Polysics, yes, very well
[07:33] <Polysics> wow, thanks to all :-)
[07:33] <vitaminx101> kinja-sheep: hey sorry I'm really new to linux I'm not sure what you mean by extension? Do you mean firefox plugins?
[07:33] <i_is_broke> alankila, you still in here?
[07:33] <MikeChelen> kinja-sheep: ok thanks, will look for that one, any idea what the search backend is?
[07:33] <alankila> i_is_broke: yes.
[07:33] <RxDx> which do u guys think is better: Eclipse or NetBeans?
[07:33] <i_is_broke> hey can we take this to offtopic for a min?
[07:33] <Polysics> RxDx, SCiTE :-P
[07:33] <kinja-sheep> Polysics: A simple code can fix that -- if(ie8); print "Don't be cruel. Use something nice like Firefox, Opera, or others" ;)
[07:34] <iceroot_> !best | RxDx
[07:34] <n00p> anyone know why these errors occur during apt-get upgrade? http://pastebin.org/65497
[07:34] <kinja-sheep> vitaminx101: Yes, I mean the Firefox Addons.
[07:34] <iceroot_> RxDx: also its offtopic, go to #java
[07:34] <Polysics> don't start an editor debate, it's worse than a language debate :-)
[07:34] <vitaminx101> kinja-sheep: ok ill see what i can do
[07:34] <MikeChelen> aquarius: does tracker support full text search of documents? gonna give it a try, thanks
[07:34] <Polysics> kinja-sheep, and IE8 isn't even THAT bad, tbh... IE6 was FAR worse, at least stuff in IE8 sorta works ou of the box
[07:34] <n00p> Polysics: one more note, if you want a language that has very little to learn, assembly or C.
[07:35] <kinja-sheep> Polysics: People are still using IE4 and IE5! :<
[07:35] <n00p> heh, IE4...
[07:36] <Polysics> luckily i get to develop for IE8 now... i convinced my two main clients that IE6 was going out of support :-)
[07:36] <EastDallas> I remember running ie in Red Hat :(
[07:37] <iceroot_> !ot | Polysics
[07:37] <n00p> how is Internet Explorer any more on topic than Java, C# and Ruby?
[07:37] <Om3Ddragon> iE8 wow
[07:37] <dandaman> i have a pretty big problem here, i noticed my processor was always in 50% use, so i closed all my programs that i had running, it stayed at 50% so i restarted, i dont have any programs on startup and the system monitor said 50% again, now even with pidgin only open its still 50%
[07:37] <Polysics> dandaman, which CPU?
[07:37] <dandaman> my processor is usually sitting at 0-5% unless i'm doing something big
[07:37] <aquarius> MikeChelen, yep, it does support that. Applications > Accessories > Tracker Search Tool. You may need to turn on indexing if it's not already turned on (it is on by default, I believe): System > Preferences > Search and Indexing
[07:37] <iceroot_> dandaman: use top to see what app is using 50%
[07:38] <Seven_Six_Two> dandaman, what process?
[07:38] <dandaman> cpu1=9-20% hovering, cpu2=100% all the time
[07:38] <dandaman> i sorted processes by cpu
[07:38] <dandaman> only the system monitor is using 2
[07:38] <Polysics> i'm sorry for not knowgin this, but how do i kill the X server to install the NVidia package?
[07:38] <ironbee> anyone tried to install a Xerox FreeFlow on ubuntu?
[07:38] <indus> dandaman: how to
[07:38] <MikeChelen> dandaman: try top or htop in console
[07:38] <iceroot_> !enter | dandaman
[07:38] <indus> Polysics: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[07:38] <aquarius> dandaman, System > Administration > System Monitor should be helpful
[07:38] <Polysics> ok, back later then :-)
[07:39] <indus> k
[07:39] <Seven_Six_Two> indus, does init 2 still work?
[07:39] <dandaman> aquarius: yeah i'm looking at that
[07:39] <dandaman> nothing is listed as using that many resources
[07:39] <Seven_Six_Two> or maybe sudo init 2
[07:39] <four> how can i stop ubuntu-one from asking for a password everytime i login?
[07:39] <dandaman> i'm afraid my 2nd cpu is gonna burn out, its constantly sitting at 100%
[07:39] <indus> Seven_Six_Two: probably not
[07:39] <skitzo> didn't work buddy! :(
[07:40] <dandaman> oh lp
[07:40] <apocalypt> four: do u use ubuntu-one?
[07:40] <m0los> Is it possible to throttle one individual torrent using rtorrent?
[07:40] <dandaman> top says lp is using 100%
[07:40] <iceroot_> dandaman: again, use top and tell us the task which is using so much cpu
[07:40] <dandaman> what is lp?
[07:40] <four> apocalypt, no
[07:40] <Seven_Six_Two> da
[07:40] <four> apocalypt, not at the moment...shoudl i?
[07:40] <apocalypt> four: deinstall ubuntu-one
[07:40] <Seven_Six_Two> dandaman, printing
[07:40] <rand_> can anyone tell me where to report bugs for an lts release?
[07:40] <aquarius> four, Ubuntu One shouldn't ask for a password every time you log in -- is it starting the web browser every time?
[07:40] <indus> Seven_Six_Two: doesnt ,dont think it worked for some time
[07:40] <kinja-sheep> m0los: Sure. #rtorrent for better support.
[07:40] <dandaman> how do i make it stop :(
[07:40] <iceroot_> m0los: yes, read the manpage for that, dont know the command but using it too
[07:40] <iceroot_> dandaman: q
[07:40] <four> aquarius, no i dont believe so, should i logout and check?
[07:40] <m0los> kinja-sheep: ok ty
[07:40] <m0los> iceroot_: ty
[07:40] <indus> rand_: ubuntu-bug -p <packagename>
[07:41] <Seven_Six_Two> dandaman, sudo killall lp
[07:41] <dandaman> jut cancelled my print jobs
[07:41] <dandaman> problem solved
[07:41] <aquarius> four, ah, sorry, you said "how can i stop ubuntu-one from asking for a password everytime i login" -- how is it asking for that password?
[07:41] <Seven_Six_Two> dandaman, lol. nice
[07:41] <rand_> well its a kernel bug anyways but concernes any user with 8.04 with ext3
[07:41] <dandaman> THANKS TEAM, YOU GUYS RAWK
[07:41]  * Xeon3D brb
[07:41] <four> aquarius, a popup window, something to do with  python
[07:42] <indus> Seven_Six_Two: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InitScriptList
[07:42] <n00p> errors from sudo apt-get upgrade: http://pastebin.org/65497 anyone know anything about this>
[07:42] <aquarius> four, ah, right. Does that window have "Allow Once" and "Allow Always" buttons on it?
[07:42] <four> aquarius, no id ont think so
[07:43] <four> aquarius, no is my final answer :)
[07:43] <aquarius> four, OK...can you make this happen by logging out and logging in again, so you can tell me what the window says?
[07:44] <rand_> i got a nasty problem with the 8.04 lts and ext3 root partition
[07:44] <phix> LjL-Temp!!!!111
[07:44] <rand_> i dont know if it was reported or not but people should be warned or something
[07:44] <Seven_Six_Two> indus, that's strange. I don't think I like that behaviour. But since I don't use it, I guess I shouldn't care.
[07:44] <n00p> may I suggest a channel #ubuntu-support with a queue for anyone who requires support?
[07:45] <apocalypt> n00p: did u try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[07:45] <n00p> thanks apocalypt will try now
[07:45] <aquarius> four, hey, did you get the window asking for your password again?
[07:46] <n00p> install, apocalypt?
[07:46] <apocalypt> n00p: sudo apt-get -f install
[07:47] <n00p> hmm
[07:47] <apocalypt> n00p: nothing happens?
[07:47] <n00p> the following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: libdns50 binutils-static
[07:48] <Flannel> n00p: Please don't suggest it, no.
[07:48] <n00p> nothing about python though
[07:48] <apocalypt> n00p: try apt-get update again
[07:48] <Polysics> back, driver installed, still 3GB of RAM
[07:49] <Polysics> i am running the PAE kernel, do i need to enable something else somewhere?
[07:49] <n00p> it was on upgrade, not update
[07:49] <n00p> and yeh, tried both... no errors, but no update there either
[07:49] <Flannel> Polysics: Does your BIOS/POST see all of it?
[07:49] <kr_217> i have setup openldap in ubuntu 9.04.Now i want to add password policy into it.How can do that?.It has created slapd.d folder and not slapd.conf file
[07:49] <aquarius> four, any luck getting the password window again? :)
[07:50] <Polysics> Flannel, i'll go check
[07:50] <kr_217> hello anybody
[07:50] <apocalypt> if u tried update and upgrade again without errors there shouldn't be a problem
[07:50] <n00p> ok thanks :) just wanted to make sure
[07:50] <apocalypt> n00p: np :)
[07:51] <coz_> kr_217,   I may not be able to help...and if no one else can you might want to thry  ##linux channel ...they may be able get you going :)
[07:51] <kr_217> coz_: ok
[07:52] <apocalypt> !ldap | kr_217
[07:53] <Seven_Six_Two> kr_217, ||  http://www.openldap.org/software/man.cgi?query=slapo-ppolicy&apropos=0&sektion=5&manpath=OpenLDAP+2.3-Release&format=html
[07:53] <songer> what i most to install to get a3d on my windows
[07:54] <rcscomp> Can someone tell me how to get ext4 support in grub2?  I tried "insmod ext4" from the command line in grub but get an error message indicating the file is not found.
[07:54] <kr_217> Seven_Six_Two: i am talking about /etc/ldap/slapd.d and not /etc/ldap/slapd.conf
[07:55] <Polysics> back
[07:55] <Polysics> BIOS does see 4096 MB of RAM
[07:55] <Flannel> Polysics: Which kernel are you using?
[07:55] <Flannel> Polysics: (uname -a)
[07:56] <Polysics> Linux luca-laptop 2.6.31-16-generic-pae #53-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 8 05:20:21 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[07:56] <aquarius> songer, A3D == 3D stereo audio technology?
[07:56] <apocalypt> rcscomp: on karmic ?
[07:56] <rcscomp> apocalypt: yes
[07:56] <Flannel> Polysics: Hmmm, well, you've got the PAE kernel alright.  I don't know what to tell you.
[07:56] <Billiard> Polysics: is there a reason you dont want to use the 64 bit kernel?
[07:56] <apocalypt> rcscomp: ext4 is the standard filesystem on karmic. it is supported
[07:56] <songer> effects just for windows like fire
[07:57] <songer> no the cube
[07:57] <Mix_User> huh..?
[07:57] <Polysics> Billiard, didn't want to reinstall as i am getting a new HD soon
[07:58] <apocalypt> songer: try to install fusion-icon and compizconfig-settings-manager
[07:58] <aquarius> songer, ah, OK. In Ubuntu Software Center, install "Advanced Desktop Effects Settings (ccsm)"
[07:58] <rcscomp> apocalypt: this is to try and get slackware dual booting.  The problem is that the slackware menu item doesn't show up in the grub menu.
[07:58] <Polysics> was just devoting some free time to see if i could get this kernel to see 4GB, but if not, i'll justsolve it with install later
[07:58] <Vincent> Does anyone have an idea http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8507786#post8507786 or in words HP 2133 still not showing wireless interface i tried ndiswrapper jockey ,....  running Windows Server with Xfce4 Xfce4-goodies interface
[07:58] <apocalypt> rcscomp: did u try update-grub2
[07:58] <kr_217> Just tell me guys how can insert ppolicy.schema in ldap for ubuntu 9.04
[07:59] <rcscomp> apocalypt: I did, with a custom entry for Slackware
[07:59] <rcscomp> apocalypt: it didn't seem to pick it up on its own
[07:59] <Mix_User> .................................................
[08:00] <rcscomp> apocalypt: both ubuntu and slackware are running LVM if that matters.
[08:00] <aquarius> songer, and then, when it's installed, run System > Preferences > CompizConfig Settings Manager to configure all the cool effects :)
[08:00] <songer> aquarius: also i would like to install 3d stereo audio technology. can i do it?
[08:01] <apocalypt> rcscomp: maybe i don't no. i've never worked with LVM. is your slackware entry under /etc/grub.d/ ?
[08:01] <aquarius> songer, I don't know very much about audio stuff, I'm afraid; my laptop only has two speakers! Do you have lots of speakers attached to your computer?
[08:01] <ShazbotMcNasty> what's the equivalent to system>preferences>sessions, in 9.04 ?
[08:01] <songer> i just want the effects for the windows like rain fireetc
[08:01] <Mix_User> ........................................
[08:02] <rcscomp> apocalypt: yes, and when I "update-grub" it gets copied correctly to the /boot/grub/grub.conf file
[08:02] <Mix_User> .................................................................................................
[08:02] <Mix_User> ....................................................................
[08:02] <Flannel> Mix_User: How can we help you?
[08:02] <FloodBot3> Mix_User: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:02] <songer> aquarius? yes i do
[08:02] <apocalypt> rcscomp: why LVM u told u were trying to make ext4 runable
[08:02] <ShazbotMcNasty> Simple question. What's the equivalent to system>preferences>sessions, in 9.04?
[08:02] <riverbird> Guest64129, do you know what chip your wifi uses?
[08:03] <Seven_Six_Two> songer, just turn those effects on then. with ccsm. and the audio depends on your sound card.
[08:03] <aquarius> songer, cool! Wish I did. Anyway, someone may be able to help more with speaker handling; I believe that the audio system ("pulseaudio") can already handle this sort of 3d sound work, but I don't know very much about it. Try right-clicking on the volume icon in the top bar and selecting Sound Preferences and see if there's anything there that's relevant.
[08:04] <apocalypt> rcscomp: maybe your settings for the slackware partition is corrupt
[08:04] <rcscomp> apocalypt: well, the ubuntu grub entries had "insmod ext2".  I knew I was using ext4 in slackware, so I changed it to "insmod ext4".  However, that command fails.  I guess, I could just change it back and try that.
[08:05] <rcscomp> apocalypt: well, I translated from the slackware lilo entries, the only thing different was the "insmod ext4".  I guess, I can try removing that and just see what happens, that might be a good first start.  brb.  Thanks for the help.
[08:05] <djyox> I'm a newb to linux, I want to install a program, AtomicParsley, I have the program on my desktop, and can run it from there, is there a way to install it so I can just type in the terminal, sudo atomicparsley and make it work?
[08:06] <djyox> Oh and if you need it, I have ubuntu 9.04
[08:06] <songer> aquarius: i already installed all the staff that i need for the effects
[08:06] <Seven_Six_Two> Guest64129, can you paste   sudo ifconfig -a    and    sudo iwconfig -a
[08:06] <riverbird> vincent, hello?
[08:06] <ntemis> hi
[08:06] <ntemis> after upgrade to 9.10 my alsa is broken
[08:06] <ntemis> how i re install alsa to fix this?
[08:07] <ntemis> currently i have no sound
[08:07] <aquarius> djyox, atomicparsley is available direct from Ubuntu in 9.10; you can install it from the command line with "sudo apt-get install atomicparsley", and then run it with "atomicparsley"
[08:07] <ntemis> my audio is realtek hd
[08:08] <Seven_Six_Two> ntemis, and had no luck changing your sound server settings or playing with all of the volume controls?
[08:08] <aquarius> djyox, if something's available directly from Ubuntu, it's always best to install it that way rather than downloading it yourself from their website; that way you get automatic updates for it, and the install process is easier :)
[08:08] <djyox> aquarius, I'm a little worrried about installing 9.10, last time we did that something didn't unstall correctly, and I had to reinstall 9.04. I'm not on a very good connection, I am deployed to afghanistan and the connection is via satillite
[08:09] <aquarius> djyox, atomicparsley is available in 9.04 as well (sorry, I forgot to ask what you're running!)
[08:09] <djyox> if I did upgrade to 9.10, is there a way I could easily get back to 9.04, with out having to reinstall?
[08:09] <ntemis> Seven_Six_Two: no
[08:09] <djyox> Oh, I didn't see it?
[08:09] <Jeje_> h
[08:09] <Jeje_> hi
[08:10] <Jeje_> can I have help please? http://tinyurl.com/ycu3msw
[08:10] <aquarius> djyox, yes -- you should be able to find it in System > Administration > Synaptic Package Manager (it's an advanced program, so it's not shown in Add/Remove Programs)
[08:10] <Seven_Six_Two> !kick Jeje
[08:10] <Seven_Six_Two> !kick Jeje_
[08:11] <djyox> I thought I had looked in there for it, but maybe it was for something else...
[08:11] <djyox> let me check
[08:11] <Jeje_> what >< ?
[08:11] <aquarius> djyox, and you may need to enable "all open-source applications" rather than just "Canonical-supported applications" to see it (this is sometimes called "enabling the universe repository")
[08:12] <Seven_Six_Two> Jeje_, lol. I don't want to see your rotten toenail.
[08:12] <djyox> aquarius, where might I find that at?
[08:12] <Jeje_> Seven_Six_Two, can you imagine sucking it? =)
[08:12] <Seven_Six_Two> Jeje_, unless you're going to install Ubuntu NBR on it
[08:13] <Jeje_> on my toenail?
[08:13] <Seven_Six_Two> Jeje_, yes. otherwise it's offensively off-topic.
[08:14] <djyox> My bad, I already have it installed. (Like I said, I'm a newb) I forgot that linux is case sensitive
[08:14] <aquarius> djyox, in Add/Remove Applications, the "Show" menu should say "All available applications"
[08:14] <aquarius> djyox, ah, ok! cool; glad you got it sorted :-)
[08:14] <djyox> Thanks for your help!
[08:14] <djyox> One other quick question on setting up a file server
[08:15] <djyox> What distro would be the best for a box that is only going to be used as a file server?
[08:15] <aquarius> djyox, well, I like Ubuntu Server, myself. :)
[08:15] <Yonni_Poo> hello, can anyone suggest why I might not get Dell XPS. ubuntu's wiki "LaptopTesting" seems to have good results for the model, however I always hear such bad things about Nvidia (being closed source) - yet this laptop doesn't seem to cause anyone problems (and it uses nvidia).. can anyone help me get off the fence?
[08:16] <zcat[1]> djyox:  I would say debian or centos, but that may be offtopic here
[08:16] <zcat[1]> not that there's much difference between ubuntu server and debian
[08:17] <djyox> Well, that was my plan was ubuntu server
[08:17] <Yonni_Poo> anyone on nvidia? or laptops?
[08:17] <djyox> I do plan on using smoothwall on an old computer or maybe server box for my firewall/router
[08:17] <zcat[1]> I think debian has a longer support cycle...
[08:18] <Yonni_Poo> I usually can't even read fast enough to keep up with this channel, and its *dead* right now. what's going on ??
[08:18] <zcat[1]> only 1300 users? Did we have a DoS or something?
[08:19] <zcat[1]> or is everyone out christmas shopping?
[08:19] <goddard> I am having a problem with totem and the you tube plugin I want to watch my videos but it often gives me an error "Automount failed: mountpoint for org.gtk.vfs.mountpoint.http already running"  I also would like to be able to use playlist options any ideas?
[08:19] <Yonni_Poo> well, since i'm not getting help...:
[08:19] <chibzuit> wd0 has 488397168 sectors but if i fdisk wd0, the mbr partition created will be only 488392002 sectors and if i add the first 63 sectors that hold the mbr, the total is 488392065. altough is not verry important, where are the remaining 5103 sectors going?
[08:19] <Yonni_Poo> djyox, I suggest slackware - keep it simple.
[08:20] <chibzuit> s/wd0/sda
[08:20] <zcat[1]> lol slackware...
[08:20] <djyox> slackware for the file server?
[08:20] <Yonni_Poo> for anything.
[08:20] <Yonni_Poo> anything you don't want breaking. use slackware and you'll know *exactly* what the heck is going on *all* the time.
[08:21] <Seven_Six_Two> Yonni_Poo, I use nvidia on a laptop, and it works very well for me
[08:21] <Yonni_Poo> i mean, you can do the same with any distro really, but... slackware - just my 2 cents
[08:21] <Folly> Hey guys
[08:21] <Sacho> that makes little sense, do you mean slackware writes more logs?
[08:21] <zcat[1]> 'because that's the only way to get slackware to do anything' -- you basically have to know every little detail to get anything working
[08:22] <Yonni_Poo> Seven_Six_Two: thank you :) did you do a lot of research before getting your laptop for ubuntu? or just put ubuntu on an existing laptop?
[08:22] <djyox> I'll have to look into slackware
[08:22] <aquarius> Yonni_Poo, I've got a Dell XPS (the M1330), with the Intel graphics chips, and it's excellent. The issue with nvidia is not that the drivers are a problem themselves, it's that it's much harder for the Ubuntu community to help with problems because the nVidia drivers are closed-source
[08:22] <djyox> I just plan to have my fileserver running on a headless box, set it and forget it kinda deal
[08:23] <box> 9500GT,9600GSO,8800GT,they are all ok
[08:23] <Seven_Six_Two> I have the same release on my desktop, and that has nvidia 6800gtoc, 2 monitors and svideo work just fine
[08:23] <zcat[1]> I started out on slackware a looong time ago. I recently took another look at it and it hasn't changed a bit, slackware is just as arcane and difficule as it was back in 1994
[08:23] <Yonni_Poo> sacho I mean, installing slackware you'll be a part of every step of every step of dependency-ness... so you'll be very aware what broke what, when you installed what, and when.
[08:23] <Sacho> I managed to install the latest nvidia drivers with only a minor headache
[08:23] <Yonni_Poo> on second though, take zcat[1]'s advice, 1994 definitely craps on my experience
[08:24] <zcat[1]> 'package management is for the weak' ;)
[08:24] <Seven_Six_Two> I learned a lot from using slackware.
[08:24] <Sacho> forced learning != fun
[08:24] <aquarius> Yonni_Poo, if you don't *have* any problems with the nVidia drivers then you'll be fine :)
[08:24] <zcat[1]> I do admit, you will learn a LOT running slackware..
[08:24] <i_is_broke> package management is for us lazys who dont like to type..lol
[08:25] <Jeje_> wtf why do i get this error? http://tinyurl.com/yasscv4
[08:25] <Yonni_Poo> i_is_broke: actually, computers are for us lazys who don't like to add stuff up by hand and pencil
[08:25] <A[D]minS> Hi i'm a bit confused ..i'm trying to check my memory but i can't understand this
[08:25] <Sacho> wasn't aware you could do addition as fast as a computer
[08:25] <A[D]minS>  total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[08:25] <A[D]minS> Mem:          3016       2917         98          0        323       2151
[08:25] <ShazbotMcNasty> someone kick Jeje_
[08:25] <i_is_broke> Yonni_Poo, no thats a calculator
[08:25] <djyox> actually, sense we are talking about nvidia cards, I am rocking out on a 8200m and my driver in linux doesn't look near as good as windows does
[08:25] <ShazbotMcNasty> that is a disgusting photo
[08:25] <Seven_Six_Two> Amaranth, please make Jeje_  stop\
[08:25] <Folly> Jeje_:  http://tinyurl.com/ycu3msw -- Hmm, weird. Did you click on the foot in the Gnome menu and try going into Computer?
[08:25] <A[D]minS> it says from 3G ram ..free 98M
[08:25] <A[D]minS> but cached 2151M
[08:25] <zcat[1]> !ops | Jeje_
[08:25] <djyox> (don't mean to get too many of the same topic going, but figured I would toss that out there)
[08:25] <A[D]minS> what dose it mean?
[08:26] <Jeje_> dont you like it ShazbotMcNasty?
[08:26] <ShazbotMcNasty> no.
[08:26] <Jeje_> ok sorry :/
[08:26] <ShazbotMcNasty> usually i'd probably think it's funny.
[08:26] <Sacho> owned by tinyurl preview
[08:26] <Sacho> ^_^
[08:26] <ShazbotMcNasty> But not today.
[08:26] <Seven_Six_Two> A[D]minS, means linux is caching it. it's all good
[08:26] <Jeje_> I tought it was funny lol
[08:26] <i_is_broke> !ops | Jeje_ spamming
[08:26] <Folly> ShazbotMcNasty: It's teh lolz.
[08:26] <Jeje_> im not spamming :s
[08:26] <Folly> I laughed out loud when I clicked on it :)
[08:26] <Yonni_Poo> aquarius: intel graphics ? maybe i'm misunderstanding hardware.... i thought the xps is only with nvidia - and that's your graphics chipset?
[08:27] <A[D]minS> Seven_Six_Two how i can control the caching ?
[08:27] <Jeje_> do you know what does mean spam oO ?
[08:27] <Folly> I wish I could be sucking on it right now. :(
[08:27] <zcat[1]> it is neither funny or on topic
[08:27]  * Folly goes back to watching Madonna videos. :D
[08:27] <Sacho> since the channel isn't very active atm, there's no reason to freak out :P
[08:27] <Seven_Six_Two> A[D]minS, not sure. not sure why you'd want to either, but I'll leave that up to you
[08:27] <Folly> Anyway, how is tablet support in Ubuntu OFTB?
[08:27] <Folly> *out of the box
[08:28] <aquarius> Yonni_Poo, it depends which XPS model you're looking at :) Some come with an nVidia graphics chipset, some with Intel, some with a choice of either. Which one are you looking for?
[08:28] <Yonni_Poo> i_is_broke: well, you could break all this down to math problems (everything the computer does... almost), so that's what i mean by pencil/paper-replacement
[08:29] <Seven_Six_Two> Folly, graphics tablet? or tablet pc?
[08:29] <Yonni_Poo> aquarius: i'm looking for anything that'll be the easiest linux-out of the box. lol
[08:29] <Folly> Anyone know why the Gnome logo isn't working? http://tinyurl.com/ycu3msw
[08:29] <zcat[1]> have been having a good run lately, last three laptops I've installed EVERYTHING worked; 3d graphics, wireless, webcam...
[08:30] <Yonni_Poo> i have up to 1,388 to spend (that's what I"m sending this system76 laptop back for)
[08:30] <zcat[1]> right off the live CD
[08:30] <aquarius> Yonni_Poo, then I'd recommend you buy a laptop with Ubuntu installed on it, rather than installing it yourself. (You had a system76 and didn't like it?)
[08:30] <zcat[1]> karmic seems to support a bit more stuff than jaunty too.. one of these laptops had no wired lan under jaunty.
[08:31] <Seven_Six_Two> I installed on an HP G60 and all hardware worked out of box
[08:31] <Yonni_Poo> aquarius: well, Dell do sell the 9.04, but a.) its an nVidia b.) I *really* prefer 2 things: 3yr. warranties & 4gb ram (for virtual machine stuff); those two specs push it right over the edge into like.. $1400
[08:31] <zcat[1]> owner was not happy at the thought of not having theintarweb so opted to continue using windows and wait for karmic.
[08:32] <chibzuit> sda has 488397168 sectors but if i fdisk sda, the largest partition created will be only 488392002 sectors and if i add the first 63 sectors that hold the mbr, the total is 488392065. where are the remaining 5103 sectors going?
[08:32] <Folly> http://tinyurl.com/ycu3msw Help :(
[08:32] <aquarius> Yonni_Poo, ah, right, yeah; I paid about that for mine, but I use my laptop 18 hours a day so I need it a lot ;)
[08:32] <Yonni_Poo> aquarius: are you recommending any laptop with Ubuntu installed on it? because all I can ever find are sketchy websites (other than sytem76) .. and like.. the three machines Dell sells
[08:32] <Folly> Wait, wrong URL, sorry.
[08:32] <djyox> Oh, how about this for a question. I would like to upgrade to firefox 3.5 in ubuntu 9.04, under synaptic, I first have to unintstall 3.0, then install 3.5 correct? Now does anyone know what I should select for removal for 3.0, and then for install of 3.5?
[08:32] <Folly> What do you guys think of this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-7NXibn5ms&feature=related
[08:32] <mishok13> i'm having troubles with updating from 9.04 to 9.10, almost everything went fine, but there's a problem with binfmt package (i guess)
[08:32] <mishok13> output is here http://paste.pocoo.org/show/157331/
[08:32] <echotone> I run a NVIDIA geforce 9500gt. Does anybody know why after a reboot my computer looks great but then after maybe 10 minutes (sometimes more/less) it looks like an old tv with bad reception? The windows freeze, my mouse freezes, it resets my desktop effects its fuzzy all over. and a dialog box pops up to tell me that the screen is not composited. please restart compize...etc
[08:32] <iceroot_> djyox: you can use 3.0 and 3.5 at the same time
[08:32] <aquarius> Yonni_Poo, I personally recommend the Dell ones, myself, but I know they're not cheap. Are you in the US?
[08:32] <zcat[1]> I was very surprised to find a laptop where webcam and wireless and 3d worked but wired network did not, btw...
[08:33] <aquarius> djyox, you can install 3.5 without uninstalling 3.0
[08:33] <mishok13> any way to reinstall/fix binfmt?
[08:33] <iceroot_> djyox: ff3.5 has a different name then firefox, its called shiretoko
[08:33] <iceroot_> mishok13: please use one line for a question, its hard to read over a few lines (when others are posting something between)
[08:33] <Yonni_Poo> yeah, I really have no preference, I just don't want it to be some tiny-teeny company (like system76).
[08:33] <Yonni_Poo> aquarius: *yeah, in US
[08:34] <zcat[1]> get a lemote!!
[08:34] <iceroot_> djyox: sudo apt-get install firefox-3.5
[08:34] <Yonni_Poo> zcat[1]: lol, like RMS?
[08:34] <djyox> ok, let me try that
[08:34] <chibzuit> sda has 488397168 sectors but if i fdisk sda, the largest partition created will be only 488392002 sectors and if i add the first 63 sectors that hold the mbr, the total is 488392065. where are the remaining 5103 sectors going?
[08:34] <zcat[1]> well, you know the support for 'free software' will be excellent...
[08:34] <mishok13> iceroot_, sorry, but the problem description is on paste.pocoo.org anyway :)
[08:35] <Skyblayde> aH
[08:35] <Skyblayde> Thank GoD!
[08:35] <zcat[1]> lenovo seem pretty good for linux compatability too
[08:35] <aquarius> Yonni_Poo, I'm in the UK, where there is Even Less Choice :) Some US people may be able to advise you about US firms. (In general, Ubuntu laptops will be towards the higher price end of the range, because they contain decent robust hardware rather than rather shoddy cheap windows-only hardware, though.)
[08:35] <echotone> There are 1300 people here. has anybody had a similar problem?
[08:35] <Seven_Six_Two> chibzuit, formatting information?
[08:35] <djyox> ok, so 3.5 is now installed
[08:35] <Skyblayde> I just made a major decision
[08:35] <iceroot_> mishok13: using eeepc here which a small display and i dont scroll the whole channel to see if someone was posting additional infos before
[08:35] <chibzuit> Seven_Six_Two, yes
[08:35] <djyox> How do I go about using 3.5 rather than 3.0?
[08:35] <djyox> (i'm a noob)
[08:35] <zcat[1]> forget trying to find a laptop with Linux preinstalled, just take a live CD along and insist on trying them out
[08:35] <Yonni_Poo> zcat[1]:  sounds good actually ( I think I just brushed the idea off, because I figured if RMS had it, it was some obscure unobtainable product) - http://www.lemote.com/english/yeeloong.html looks pretty limited of a site
[08:36] <Skyblayde> I decided to switch over to linux
[08:36] <Skyblayde> New to it
[08:36] <iceroot_> djyox: first try if you like ff3.5
[08:36] <Skyblayde> Lovin it
[08:36] <Skyblayde> but could use some help
[08:36] <Skyblayde> I think i mauled my splash
[08:36] <djyox> Whats the easiest way to start 3.5?
[08:36] <iceroot_> !ask | Skyblayde
[08:36] <DaDa|Urka> Skyblayde: Gratz! :D
[08:36] <iceroot_> djyox: in terminal  firefox-3.5  or use applicaions-internet-shiretoko
[08:36] <djyox> (i'm rocking out 3.5 on my windows, so I'm guessing if its the same, I'll like it)
[08:36] <Skyblayde> Dada :) ty
[08:37] <Skyblayde> Urka*
[08:37] <chibzuit> Seven_Six_Two, any idea?
[08:37] <iceroot_> !who | djyox
[08:37] <Skyblayde> I think i need to smoke a bowl
[08:37] <Yonni_Poo> zcat[1]: actually, livecd is no problem, I just want go make sure everything works, and I hear (or read in a forum) you'll get kicked out of a BestBuy for booting there machines on USBs, lol
[08:37] <Skyblayde> then come back in here and learn some more
[08:37] <MaSSaSLaYeR> can anyone help me install wireless on hp 2133
[08:37] <iceroot_> Skyblayde: and please stay ontopic here
[08:37] <iceroot_> !wifi | MaSSaSLaYeR
[08:37] <A[D]minS> Seven_Six_Two: may i know what is the real meaning of Cached which appears in the output of free
[08:38] <zcat[1]> Yonni_Poo:  so obviously best buy don't need your custom...
[08:38] <Skyblayde> I've practically had to learn linux overnight. I need help with my splash. Anyone willing to give a hand?
[08:38] <Skyblayde> I think I mauled it :(
[08:38] <MaSSaSLaYeR> well i tried a lot like ndiswrapper en jockey
[08:38] <iceroot_> Skyblayde: again, ask your question in one line and stay on topic
[08:38] <MaSSaSLaYeR> but there still isn't an interface
[08:38] <djyox> Ahh I see, yeah, 3.5 is what I want to be running. Would it be better to just leave 3.0 on? That way I always have a backup if I start messing around with god knows what (I have to break stuff to figure out how it works it seems)
[08:38] <Yonni_Poo> zcat[1]: isn't that kind of justified, though? I feel ilke, if some kid came into my shop with a liveboot that could wipe my whole disk, i'd be pretty upset
[08:38] <om26er> !anyone | Skyblayde
[08:38] <ZIv25> Hello , does it possible to to disable the ssh time limit ? so i can stay login for days even without any activity ?
[08:39] <iceroot_> djyox: yes you can leave it on the system
[08:39] <Skyblayde> Iceroot, what are you talking about?
[08:39] <riverbird> Yonni_Poo, i tend to agree with zcat[1] . if not a usb, take a cd with you.  otherwise, find the box you want, then install on it.  jmo
[08:39] <iceroot_> !ot | Skyblayde
[08:39] <zcat[1]> Yonni_Poo:  like ghosting is hard?
[08:39] <Yonni_Poo> ZIv25: purely curious: why do you want to do that?
[08:39] <iceroot_> !ask | Skyblayde
[08:39] <iceroot_> Skyblayde: that two ones
[08:39] <echotone> skyblayde: there are web pages for resetting all visuals on the system.  i can help you look for them if thats an option you are willing to do.
[08:40] <Yonni_Poo> zcat[1]: ghosting?
[08:40] <Skyblayde> Echotone, Can we go private with it then so i dont embarrass myself?
[08:40] <Skyblayde> hehe
[08:40] <zcat[1]> the 'recovery disk'
[08:40] <echotone> if u insist. im just going to be on google looking for the page. i had to do it a while back
[08:40] <Seven_Six_Two> chibzuit, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-98827.html
[08:40] <echotone> hiut me up
[08:41] <Yonni_Poo> zcat[1]: oooh, i've never heard it called ghosting. right, okay. i'll just do it then (i always have a liveUSB anyways).
[08:41] <Yonni_Poo> thanks :) all
[08:41] <djyox> Alright, one more question, then I have to go start packing again. Is there any programs that you could recommend for me to download and start messing with. I'm going to a FOB that may not have internet connection. I use my N95 to connect to the internet through my laptop sometimes, but that is 14.4 slow.
[08:41] <zcat[1]> computer retailers generally have an OEM install disk for each model, they boot off that and run an autoresotre and it's back to factory in five or ten minutes
[08:41] <zcat[1]> *autorestore
[08:41] <djyox> in other words, any must have programs
[08:42] <Yonni_Poo> zcat[1]: sure, I'd imagine that'd be similar to what you get with an Acer where you bring it "back to factory" with all the Acer pre-installed garbage (not tomention on windows
[08:42] <syrius> what's a good program to just reduce the kb/s of mp3 files for portable media playing?
[08:43] <syrius> well like that you can make it so that it creates new files of reduce kb/s mp3 files
[08:43] <djyox> can mplayer encode mp3's? if so, that might work?
[08:43] <syrius> high kb/s for portable media player can really kill the battery :/
[08:44] <ntemis> hi
[08:44] <intel> how to enable 3D view in chess
[08:44] <ntemis> i fixed my audio
[08:44] <zcat[1]> syrius:  and use up all the flash
[08:44] <MaSSaSLaYeR> ok i've installed the broadcom wireless drivers via Jockey-KDE what now?
[08:44] <ntemis> but i dont have the icon for audio in top right panel
[08:44] <syrius> up all the flash is a program?
[08:44] <ntemis> to lower or put higher the volume on the fly
[08:44] <zcat[1]> syrius:  I think lame can convert directly from mp3 to a lower bitrate
[08:44] <intel> --------------------------------how to enable 3D view in chess
[08:45] <zcat[1]> syrius:  high-bitrate mp3's are big and use more flash memory in your mp3 player
[08:45] <intel> -------how to enable 3D view in chess-------
[08:45] <BeeBuu> hi,all.anyone know is there a programme can voice chat under command line?
[08:45] <syrius> I see zcat[1]
[08:45] <syrius> well I don't care about that much
[08:45] <intel> help-----how to enable 3D view in chess-----
[08:45] <ardchoille> !patience | intel
[08:45] <syrius> I want high kb/s songs for playing on the computer just not for media player
[08:45] <zcat[1]> syrius:  I'm not sure if they also use battery faster. I suspect there's little difference
[08:46] <intel> ok sorry yaa
[08:46] <om26er> !repeat | intel
[08:46] <kr_217> how to load ppolicy.la in ubuntu
[08:46] <syrius> well according to apple's site it suggests to use lower bitrate for files to save battery life zcat[1]
[08:46] <Yonni_Poo> whoops, battery died
[08:47] <syrius> I use rockbox and put my music files in a separate folder on  my ipod I hate the way apple does it
[08:47] <riverbird> MaSSaSLaYeR, vincent?
[08:47] <syrius> so then I can just enable MTP plugin for rockbox and then I am all good
[08:47] <MaSSaSLaYeR> yes
[08:47] <syrius> while disabling ipod plugin
[08:48] <zcat[1]> syrius:  for a hard drive player, lower bitrate would mean less frequent reads which require spinning the drive up. But I don't think it would be an issue for a flash-based player, only hard-drive ones.
[08:48] <MaSSaSLaYeR> yes riverbird
[08:48] <Yonni_Poo> just ahring: (system 76 laptops come default with a *whimmppyy* battery)
[08:48] <syrius> it is a hard drive based player zcat[1]
[08:48] <syrius> well flash-based has a limit of the amount of reads
[08:48] <aquarius> Yonni_Poo, yeah, I bought two extra 9-cell batteries for my M1330 :)
[08:49] <syrius> well it is a pretty huge amount of reads  now but in the beginning it wasn't a lot of reads to make it unable to write to it anymore
[08:49] <riverbird> MaSSaSLaYeR, saw you on earlier.  type the first couple letters of my username, then tab to autocomplete
[08:49] <riverbird> MaSSaSLaYeR, keeps us highlighted
[08:49] <intel> i didn't get the answer in those links
[08:49] <riverbird> did you enable the proprietary drivers?
[08:49] <intel> Please someone help
[08:50] <riverbird> MaSSaSLaYeR, did you enable the proprietary drivers?
[08:50] <MaSSaSLaYeR> how i do that ?
[08:50] <FreeBSD> asdf
[08:50] <MaSSaSLaYeR> riverbird,
[08:50] <MaSSaSLaYeR> riverbird,  i did the free ones
[08:51] <riverbird> MaSSaSLaYeR, you running in server? or gui?
[08:51] <Yonni_Poo> aquarius: you know, i'd never have known (aside from your comments, and the ubuntu laptop testing pages) that dell's xps has extra detailed model number, like you say, "m1330"... it doesn't say it *anywhere* noteableon there page: http://www.dell.com/us/en/home/notebooks/laptop-studio-xps-13/pd.aspx?refid=laptop-studio-xps-13&s=dhs&cs=19
[08:51] <MaSSaSLaYeR> gui
[08:51] <zcat[1]> !patience | intel
[08:51] <jozefk> anyone knows some human, ubutnu theme I could use on windows 7?
[08:51] <MaSSaSLaYeR> riverbird, xfce4
[08:51] <chibzuit> Seven_Six_Two, the "lost" sectors are not because of formating the partition. http://pastebin.com/d44b07947
[08:51] <zcat[1]> intel:  looking into this; there's a package you may need to install, I just can't remember what it was
[08:51] <om26er> jozefk: #ubuntu-offtopic plz
[08:51] <jozefk> ah ok :)
[08:52] <MaSSaSLaYeR> riverbird,  enabling the proprietary drivers atm
[08:52] <zcat[1]> intel:  so the error when you try to enable it says you need Python OpenGL and Python GTKGLExt
[08:52] <intel> yes
[08:52] <riverbird> MaSSaSLaYeR, did you get the # of the actual bcm chipset?  ie, bc43xx?
[08:53] <zcat[1]> intel:  open a terminal and type "sudo apt-get install -y python-opengl python-gtkglext1"
[08:54] <MaSSaSLaYeR> riverbird,  it says the broadcoam B43 wireless driver and broadcom sta wireless driver the broadcom sta wirelless doesn't want to enable
[08:54] <ntemis> gnome-volume-control-applet doesnt show on panel
[08:54] <aquarius> Yonni_Poo, yeah, "XPS" is a whole range of laptops. Dell just don't let on that that's the case, it seems, which is a bit weird. That XPS13 looks pretty sweet, though, even if it does only come with nvidia graphics :)
[08:54] <intel> oh.... it says-----
[08:54] <ntemis> how i re-enable it?
[08:54] <michael> does anyone know anything about sxipper?
[08:54] <riverbird> MaSSaSLaYeR, ah .. sta
[08:55] <MaSSaSLaYeR> riverbird,  sorry if i act stupid but i'm not so experienced :p that's why i bought this laptop to learn more :p
[08:55] <riverbird> MaSSaSLaYeR, that has been fussy.  bc4312, 4315 .. ?? do you know?  not all chips are supported
[08:55] <zcat[1]> intel:  for future reference; I found those by searching "apt-cache search python [whatever]" from the things glchess was saying needed to be installed
[08:55] <MaSSaSLaYeR> riverbird,  let me search
[08:55] <intel> zcat,   it says---"E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[08:55] <intel> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? "
[08:56] <Yonni_Poo> aquarius: I appreciate you looking. so it doesn't look to you like there's a whole nother rabbit hole of xps pages I should find with different specs (say intel chips) -- somewhere else on there messy site?
[08:56] <riverbird> MaSSaSLaYeR, lspci -v  find the network controller
[08:57] <riverbird> MaSSaSLaYeR, http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Known_PCI_devices
[08:57] <zcat[1]> intel:  you have another package manager open? (synaptic, software centre, update manager?) -- close any or wait for updates to finish .. or as a last resort try a reboot, it may just be something that is hung or forgot to release the lockfile..
[08:57] <MaSSaSLaYeR> riverbird, Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g (rev 01)
[08:57] <MaSSaSLaYeR> 	Subsystem: Hewlett-Packard Company Device 137d
[08:57] <aquarius> Yonni_Poo, not with Ubuntu pre-installed, it seems (dell.com/ubuntu lists all their current models)
[08:57] <kr_217> how to load ppolicy.la in ubuntu
[08:58] <Yonni_Poo> aquarius: yeah, I saw that too. :\ Oh well, off to a battle at the near by PC store, it is.
[08:58] <riverbird> MaSSaSLaYeR, see above link.  4312 only partially supported - 'g' networks only
[08:58] <zcat[1]> Yonni_Poo:  also if you get one with windows installed, reclaim the windows tax!!
[08:59] <aquarius> Yonni_Poo, yeah. I wish there were loads of places where you could buy proper Ubuntu laptops, but Dell and System76 are the main two, I think, both of which I've been really pleased with in the past. Dell don't do my M1330 any more, tragically!
[08:59] <MaSSaSLaYeR> riverbird,  i will look hold on
[08:59] <Yonni_Poo> maybe i'll just bring Richard Stallman in with me... He'll talk them out of their rage.
[08:59] <intel> hey  ZCAT, I think something is happening
[08:59] <intel> thanks thoug
[08:59] <dsdeiz> hi! can't i not do wget -O - file.zip | unzip ?
[09:00] <Yonni_Poo> zcat[1]: actually, its funny you mention windows tax, because when I asked a Dell sales assitant, they said, "No, the windows installation is free, there's no refund to give on that"... i was like.. YEAH, okay.
[09:00] <Yonni_Poo> zcat[1]: but, either way, I can't see what I can say to that response
[09:00] <MaSSaSLaYeR> riverbird, what can i do do let the other wireless networks work?
[09:01] <zcat[1]> Yonni_Poo:  they pay -nothing- to microsoft? seriously?!!
[09:01]  * joejc finds windows really annoying
[09:01] <zcat[1]> wow, I didn't know msft were that desperate to retain market share ;)
[09:01] <MaSSaSLaYeR> because the laptop is distributed with SUSE so normally there would be drivers
[09:01] <Yonni_Poo> zcat[1]supposedly? - idk, I doubt it, but... if it mattered enough that we could (as consumers) really find out what deal they had with Dell - I wouldn't be too surprised if Microsoft wasn't giving vendors their OS for free.
[09:02] <michael> importing .rfp files to sxipper - possible?
[09:02] <riverbird> MaSSaSLaYeR, otherwise you have bcmwl-kernel-source and bcmwl-modaliases installed?
[09:02] <riverbird> MaSSaSLaYeR, ??  cant help you there.  sorry.
[09:02] <djyox> Thanks everyone for your help.
[09:03] <MaSSaSLaYeR> riverbird,  let me check on those things
[09:03] <Pupuser402> hi all
[09:03] <zcat[1]> Yonni_Poo:  I think technically they're right, they pay very little to msft and make it back on 'shovelware' like trial versions of norton and office
[09:03] <aquarius> dsdeiz, unzip doesn't seem to support getting a zipfile on standard input, as far as I can tell
[09:03] <Yonni_Poo> aquarius: actually, I really wanted this System76 to work out for me. its unfortunate  --  I just feel its silly of me to spend 1400 dollars on a hole-in-the-wall company when I could spend $20 less to get the same/or-better specs from Dell
[09:04] <Folly> Guys, I'm getting errors in my dmesg. Here's a log: http://pastehtml.com/view/5sje8l0.html
[09:04] <riverbird> MaSSaSLaYeR, you may be able to copy drivers over? otherwise it may be an issue of the ubuntu kernel, not sure if thats shared with SUSE
[09:04] <zcat[1]> Yonni_Poo:  but this is getting way offtopic.. ;)
[09:04] <om26er> kick folly
[09:04] <MaSSaSLaYeR> ok
[09:04] <aquarius> dsdeiz, yeah, it doesn't; unzip -hh says that it doesn't support streaming (reading from stdin)
[09:04] <riverbird> MaSSaSLaYeR, another page maybe helpful .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/
[09:04] <Folly> om26er: What?
[09:05] <Yonni_Poo> zcat[1]: ooh, wow! you should see the nasty list of "components" that get saved when you print off your shopping cart for later use. really all you're trying to get a list of is: cpu, ram, hdd, monitor, (maybe 4 more  things?)... its like a 20 ITEM list! (all anti-spyware, etc. etc)
[09:05] <Yonni_Poo> zcat[1]: (that's in reference to Dell's shopping cart)
[09:05] <ruki> i upgraded to linux version *.16 from *.14 and i am seeing their respective options in grub loader. are the two taking their own memory space?
[09:05] <MaSSaSLaYeR> riverbird,  i will try those things thanks for the help
[09:05] <Yonni_Poo> zcat[1]: right... #ubuntu cahnnel
[09:05] <iceroot_> ruki: on harddisk, yes
[09:06] <ruki> iceroot_: but it was supposed to be a upgrade!
[09:06] <Skyblayde> Looking to tweak Ubuntu Performance, namely Network and Graphics. Anyone willing to work with a linux newb?
[09:06] <zcat[1]> Yonni_Poo:  there are websites that tell you how to claim it back anyhow.. first step is I think you don't bother hassling the salesperson because they don't have the power to help you.
[09:06] <riverbird> MaSSaSLaYeR, all i got.  good luck
[09:07] <iceroot_> ruki: yes but what to do if the uprade fails or new kernel is bad? then you can use the old one
[09:07] <Skyblayde> Private IM me, if your willing to help plz.
[09:07] <Yonni_Poo> zcat[1]: oh, great! I'll look it up
[09:07] <iceroot_> Skyblayde: what is the problem about network performance? (answer in one line please)
[09:07] <ruki> iceroot_:ok. how much harddisk space is the new version taking?
[09:07] <Matson> when you use apt-get to remove a package, can I also have it remove all the support packages that are not needed any more?  how do  Ido that?
[09:08] <yogesh> help
[09:08] <Pupuser402> please tell me a good ubuntu based os for netbooks (Eee Pc)
[09:08] <zcat[1]> Matson:  apt-get autoremove
[09:08] <iceroot_> ruki: ls -all /boot
[09:08] <Matson> Pupuser402: eee pc works with 9.10
[09:08] <Matson> zcat[1]: thanks
[09:08] <EsatYuce> hi, How can i download VirtualBox newest version?
[09:08] <Goliath> hi
[09:08] <iceroot_> !unr | Pupuser402
[09:08] <Folly> Guys can you help me with this? http://pastehtml.com/view/5sje8l0.html
[09:09] <iceroot_> EsatYuce: from there website (sue the repo and help on there website)
[09:09] <zcat[1]> EsatYuce:  go to their website and click download link?!
[09:09] <iceroot_> !op | Folly
[09:09] <Goliath> which is the easiest firewall i can use for linux? firestarter/ipkungfu/guarddog/other ?
[09:09] <Yonni_Poo> reclaiming windows sales tax, if you plan on installing Ubuntu later :) http://www.linux.com/archive/articles/59381   ---however, I'm not sure how easy it'll actually be
[09:09] <iceroot_> Goliath: ufw
[09:09] <pawan> hi
[09:09] <iceroot_> Goliath: but normally you dont need one
[09:09] <pawan> no volume control in oss
[09:09] <EsatYuce> iceroot_,  and zcat[1] : i tried it, but after downloaded, i cant see the application on my menu
[09:10] <inzi> hello
[09:10] <iceroot_> EsatYuce: its a bug, you have to restart your desktop or start it from the terminal
[09:10] <zcat[1]> Yonni_Poo:  basically you just have to keep at it. they probably don't really owe you anything but will eventually give you some money to make you go away...
[09:10] <iceroot_> EsatYuce: its only showing in the menu after reloging or relaoding
[09:10] <Goliath> iceroot_: is it easier than firestarter?
[09:10] <inzi> hi.. does anyone know why ubuntu shows a lower signal strength on wifi, compared to windows
[09:11] <Pupuser402> 10x and another question ... Eee PC 901 has 2 SSD's - one mounted as / , the other must be /home?
[09:11] <zcat[1]> EsatYuce:  oh, so the real question is how do you _install_ virtualbox after downloading it?
[09:11] <iceroot_> Goliath: dont know, for what you need a firewall?
[09:11] <iceroot_> inzi: other driver
[09:11] <luckymurali> Hi to all
[09:11] <inzi> hi.. does anyone know why ubuntu shows a lower signal strength on wifi, compared to windows, on windows i get 4bars, on ubuntu 2 bars
[09:11] <Pupuser402> sorry for my English
[09:11] <iceroot_> Pupuser402: i amm using that too like that with / and /home
[09:11] <inzi> iceroot.. could u pls clarify
[09:11] <EsatYuce> zcat[1],  i download it from the site there are many link, i select the correct link for my sistem and downloaded it
[09:12] <iceroot_> inzi: ubuntu is using another driver then windows
[09:12] <iceroot_> inzi: so maybe its because of the driver
[09:12] <inzi> i am using a usb dongle for wife
[09:12] <luckymurali> is there any limitations to increase on swap???
[09:12] <Pupuser402> ok i will test it :)
[09:12] <inzi> i mean wifi
[09:12] <luckymurali> my RAM is 8 GB
[09:12] <inzi> iceroot .does having lower signal strength affect my speed
[09:12] <iceroot_> luckymurali: no limit
[09:12] <luckymurali> Already I created 3 time .swap file and added it
[09:13] <luckymurali> iceroot, hi
[09:13] <SwedeMike> luckymurali: why do you need a swap file with 8 gigs of ram?
[09:13] <luckymurali> sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/10240Mb.swap bs=1M count=10240
[09:13] <luckymurali> dd: opening `/mnt/10240Mb.swap': Text file busy
[09:13] <iceroot_> inzi: not always
[09:13] <shruggar> how does ubuntu determine the grub options to put in menu.lst when it regenerates that file?
[09:13] <zcat[1]> luckymurali:  beyond 4G there is really no need for swap except to hibernate; swap=ram...
[09:13] <inzi> ok.. thank you iceroot
[09:13]  * ikonia wakes
[09:13] <luckymurali> SwedeMike , my query tooks aroung 50GB
[09:14] <iceroot_> !tab | inzi
[09:14] <luckymurali> im using main memory DB
[09:14] <llutz> luckymurali: did "mkswap yourfile" before?
[09:14] <iceroot_> ikonia: thx
[09:14] <ikonia> sorry for the slow response
[09:14] <inzi> oh.. hehe thnx
[09:14] <SwedeMike> luckymurali: is your problem to create the file or to make it be swap?
[09:14] <luckymurali> create the file itself
[09:15] <SwedeMike> luckymurali: what happens if you choose another file name?
[09:15] <luckymurali> dd: opening `/mnt/10240Mb.swap': Text file busy
[09:15] <luckymurali> this is the message
[09:15] <llutz> luckymurali: what filesystem is /mnt on?
[09:15] <luckymurali> ext2
[09:15] <Skyblayde> ext3
[09:15] <SwedeMike> luckymurali: it's either a problem with file size (if it's fat32 or something), or a permission problem (do it using sudo)
[09:16] <luckymurali> yes im using it with sudo unly
[09:16] <djyox> Hello again, one more quick question. What is the differnece in uses of 'sudo' and 'gksu'?
[09:16] <luckymurali> how to kill all the process running on my machine
[09:16] <Skyblayde> one is a graphical internface (gksudo)
[09:16] <ulgens> i have a problem with module i810, it's not work
[09:16] <Skyblayde> sudo is manual
[09:16] <ulgens> can you help me
[09:16] <ikonia> djyox: one sources a graphical environment for X11 apps
[09:16] <zcat[1]> SwedeMike:  the error message doesn't suggest either of those; it seems to me that /mnt/whatever is busy; ie it already exists and is already being used by something?
[09:17] <djyox> AHHH, sweetness, I guess that would explain why it pops open a window then...
[09:17] <djyox> <---- noob
[09:17] <djyox> :D thanks!
[09:17] <ikonia> djyox: no problem, always better to ask
[09:17] <zcat[1]> luckymurali:  try 'swapoff' then create the file, then use 'mkswap filename' to turn it into a swapfile, then swapon swapfile' to enable it again
[09:18] <djyox> ikonia, yeah... I'm never too proud to ask. I'd rather just know the correct thing thing than pretend I do...
[09:18] <pablum> how to configure xorg if install didn't find vcard address or monitor timings?
[09:18] <zcat[1]> luckymurali:  'swapoff -a' I think... you won't be able to write lots of nulls to a swapfile that the system is currently using!
[09:18] <pablum> ...short of writing a xorg.conf file from scratch, that is...
[09:18] <luckymurali> zcat[1],thanks
[09:18] <SwedeMike> zcat[1]: he said he tried 4 different file names.
[09:19] <dooglus> !tor
[09:19] <dooglus> !info tor
[09:19] <luckymurali> but how can i kill all my process or how can i freeup my current swap
[09:19] <dooglus> any idea what the tor package is called?
[09:19] <dooglus> !proxies
[09:20] <Slart> luckymurali: kill all the processes? power off the machine? without processes there is.. well.. nothing running.. no os .. no nothing
[09:20] <llutz> dooglus: tor, but it isn't in standard-repos
[09:20] <dooglus> llutz: which repo is it in?
[09:20] <pablum> the display panel only offers 800x600, but this monitor (viewsonic a71f+) is capable of more...
[09:20] <llutz> dooglus: sry idk, google it
[09:20] <dooglus> I wonder why it's not available safely - seems odd to make us install from a 3rd party repo
[09:20] <Slart> luckymurali: the swapoff method sounds a lot more promising
[09:20] <luckymurali> Slart,ok just i need to restart thr kernel without reebooting
[09:21] <Slart> luckymurali: hmm... not really sure I've ever heard that mentioned.. is there a particular reason you don't want to reboot?
[09:22] <luckymurali> yes my results are cold cached
[09:22] <luckymurali> else i need to execute my query for another 8 hrs
[09:23] <om26er> !ayatana
[09:23] <riverbird> luckymurali, maybe too much swap?
[09:23] <luckymurali> yes
[09:23] <riverbird> luckymurali, why any w/ 8g ram?
[09:23] <luckymurali> im doing swapoff
[09:24] <luckymurali> when i restart my maching swapon will happen automatically???
[09:24] <Slart> luckymurali: ouch.. no way to dump the cache contents to the hard drive?
[09:24] <zcat[1]> luckymurali:  I am fairly certain that you are asking the wrong question; you have a problem. You have made some assumptions of your own about the cause of that problem which are probably not correct. I think you should ask for help with the original problem...
[09:24] <luckymurali> zcat[1], Im sure about my problem
[09:25] <luckymurali> i have a database which is a main memory database
[09:25] <luckymurali> so the results are in main memory
[09:26] <riverbird> luckymurali, are you using ramzwap?
[09:26] <luckymurali> it has a dvantage of cold caching
[09:26] <zcat[1]> luckymurali:  well, you can add an unlimited number of 1G swapfiles without dissabling any of the existing swapspace...
[09:26] <luckymurali> riverbird,what is that??
[09:26] <zcat[1]> or any other size...
[09:26] <luckymurali> zcat[1], yes im doing that
[09:26] <riverbird> luckymurali, your /swap only needs 256k
[09:27] <riverbird> if that
[09:27] <zcat[1]> I'm not sure why you can't create any file in /tmp unless somewhere along the road /tmp has accidentally become a file rather than a directory
[09:27] <zcat[1]> sorry, /mnt not /tmp
[09:28] <luckymurali> zcat[1], swapoff is really solved my problem
[09:28] <luckymurali> but i need to do swapon or it will automatically on when i reboot my machine???
[09:28] <zcat[1]> also of you really do need significantly more than 2xram then you are going to have some really bad performance issues
[09:30] <Ace42> Hello chaps, my laptop's running in 1024*768; I'm sure it can go higher but there is no option to set that in Karmic's Display Preferences - how do I over-ride that and add higher resolutions to the list?
[09:30] <zcat[1]> !res
[09:30] <coz_> Ace42,  which video card is on that laptop?
[09:30] <riverbird> not even 2x ram, but with 4gb or more, the 2gb swap is plenty
[09:30] <Slart> luckymurali: just out of curiosity.. is the some advantage to having a database in memory (which in reality is swapped out to disk) compared to having the database on the disc from the beginning?
[09:30] <dooglus> Ace42: the system has been improved recently to make such configuration unneccesary.  xorg knows best.
[09:30] <coz_> Ace42,  lspci | grep -i vga    in terminal
[09:32] <riverbird> luckymurali,  ramzwap  is installed but configured at 0 % usage (disabled). Enabling it is usually done by modifying /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf and setting some value to COMPCACHE_SIZE
[09:32] <Ace42> Intel Corp Mobile  915GM/GMS/910GML Express Graphics Controller
[09:32] <Ace42> I am pretty sure that it can handle more than 1024*768; so I very much doubt it knows best
[09:32] <luckymurali> Slart,by doing that we can run the query in high speed (atleast 10 times faster)
[09:32] <luckymurali> im using it for OLAP purpose
[09:32] <riverbird> luckymurali, a value like 50 %. Then rebuild initramfs images with "update-initrams -u -k all"
[09:33] <coz_> Ace42,   mm   not sure then since I rarely work with Intel graphics.... you might have to add modlines for your graphics in the xorg.conf  but then again I rarely do that myself anylonger...I am sure someone here can help with that
[09:33] <luckymurali> yes this swapoff saved my time and the results
[09:33] <foormea> hi
[09:33] <luckymurali> thanks guys :)
[09:33] <Ace42> Idon't have an xorg.conf, I gathered it was obsolete post-HAL
[09:33] <foormea> is skype supposed to be present in medibuntu's repos for 64 bits?
[09:33] <Slart> luckymurali: oh.. didn't expect that.. thanks for explaining
[09:33] <zcat[1]> I am a little puzzled why running a database in 'memory' (where vast amounts of it are swapped to disk) is faster than running it from disk (where as much as possible will be cached in ram anyhow..)
[09:34] <coz_> Ace42,  you can probably generate one with   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh  xserver-xorg
[09:34] <Slart> foormea: I think so.. I think I installed it using the medibuntu repos
[09:34] <zcat[1]> basically ubuntu will _always_ put as much as possible in real memory and leave the rest on disk, no matetr how you think you have it configured
[09:35] <foormea> Slart: 64bits right?
[09:35] <riverbird> zcat[1], i'm a little confused why with 8gb ram there is need for any swap at all?
[09:35] <mnowluck> I'm sorry for being stupid, however I just went to http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download and I found only 32 bit, is there anyway I can download the 64bit?
[09:35] <Slart> foormea: right.. 64bit karmic..    "Installed: 2.1.0.47-0medibuntu2"
[09:35] <luckymurali> zcat[1], actually the query execution only takes more RAM when there is insufficient memory i will drop all the effort
[09:35] <foormea> Slart: ok..
[09:36] <luckymurali> so I dont want to take that risk(because it is data oriented) not recommended by DBA's
[09:36] <Slart> mnowluck: there's supposed to be a 64bit download in the same place.. isn't there a "select another variant" button?
[09:36] <joaopinto> zcat[1], running a database in 'memory' will pin the data in active RAM as long it's used, unlike on disk for which you are dependent on cache availability and which is shared with other disk I/O operations
[09:37] <mnowluck> Slart: nope.. it showed me only 32 bit
[09:37] <indus> mnowluck: look a little below and you will see a line saying , more options .........
[09:37] <mnowluck> is it because I'm on 32 bit?
[09:37] <coz_> mnowluck, go to ubuntu.com and just under the "Sownload loaction"  is   Alternative download options, including Ubuntu installer fo
[09:37] <Slart> mnowluck: try "alternative download options, including Ubuntu installer for windows".. right below the "Download location" selector
[09:37] <coz_> mnowluck,  I meant   "Download locations"
[09:37] <Newbie-Widget> hey guys, wondering if anyone could lend me a hand...i cant get my touchpad to work on my laptop. i installed somthing earlier and now i can get the touchpad option in System > preferences, but wen i open it, it says "Gsynaptics could initialize" i need to set SHMconfid "true' ect...   any help would be great
[09:37] <ph33r> is anyone facing any problems in weather.com weather ?
[09:37] <ardchoille> Who was looking for 64bit Karmic download?
[09:38] <zcat[1]> joaopinto:  I'll take your word for it, but all of my experience with memory allocation says there will be no practical dofference at all.
[09:38] <mnowluck> oh I'm sorry LOL! I have to just click on the more options.. thanks
[09:38] <indus> mnowluck: alternative download , > choose architecture
[09:38] <Slart> mnowluck: on the right side it says "Choose the architecture" with options for 32bit and 64bit
[09:38] <coz_> ph33r,  let me check
[09:38] <indus> i want lucy liunx
[09:38] <ph33r> coz_: thanks, I can't seem to fetch weather by the xoap service for bagalore India :/
[09:38] <Slart> !lucid | indus
[09:38] <coz_> ph33r, ah  I see  mmm
[09:38] <joaopinto> riverbird, swap never hurts, if you are doing reading/processing operations over 7GBs of data, and if you have 7GB of sleeping apps that can be swapped out, those 7GBs can be used for disk i/o caching
[09:39] <indus> cant wait for the LTS 1
[09:39] <indus> !
[09:39] <coz_> ph33r,  have you tried any of the applets for weather?
[09:39] <ph33r> coz_: I use conky
[09:39] <joaopinto> zcat[1], this is theory, for the real thing you would need to benchmark it :P
[09:39] <ph33r> but I can't access the webby either
[09:39]  * shyam_k trying to get gprs from mobile through data cable 
[09:39] <coz_> ph33r,  mmm I never use conky so I am not real familiar with settings for that
[09:40] <shyam_k> but wvdial says of error code 16 that the modem is disconnecting the link though i can see chap authentication succeeded..
[09:40] <Ace42> Grah, no xorg.conf generated, and it seems it is a problem a lot of people have run into
[09:40] <ph33r> coz_: but I can't even access the website for bangalore india, INXX0012
[09:40] <Ace42> Seems like a HAL problem
[09:40] <coz_> ph33r,  is bangalore india close to another  location that may work << just for testing
[09:41] <ph33r> coz_: chennai India
[09:41] <coz_> ph33r,  give that try to be sure it is weather.com
[09:41] <kr_217> anybody know the "Moduleload" is part of which package?
[09:41] <Newbie-Widget> hey guys, wondering if anyone could lend me a hand...i cant get my touchpad to work on my laptop. i installed somthing earlier and now i can get the touchpad option in System > preferences, but wen i open it, it says "Gsynaptics could initialize" i need to set SHMconfid "true' ect...   any help would be great
[09:41] <coz_> ph33r,  and perhaps a few other locations
[09:41] <ph33r> coz_: ok
[09:42] <skitzo> hey guys if i have all my media in various other partitions how do i link them to the folders under places?
[09:42] <ardchoille> skitzo: drag a folder to the places pane
[09:42] <coz_> skitzo,   well if you   go to that location open one of the folders and hit  ctrl+d  it should list it under Places menu
[09:43] <tarelerulz> What is one of the best dvd ripping tools?
[09:43] <skitzo> oh true this doesn't transfer them aye
[09:43] <reactor> skitzo, delete folders and make symbolic links to your ones
[09:43] <skitzo> ?
[09:43] <ardchoille> skitzo: just drag a folder to the places pane, it works
[09:43] <coz_> tarelerulz,  http://www.linux.com/archive/feature/128105
[09:44] <herr_karl> where to file the bug that radeon+kms+external CRT doesnt allow resolution > 60 Hz ? (EDID is broekn btw)
[09:44] <coz_> tarelerulz,  I use handbrake for converting  but apparenlty it is also capable of dvd rips as well
[09:44] <ardchoille> coz_: it is
[09:44] <skitzo> when i do that it trys to copy them over
[09:44] <coz_> ardchoille,  cool
[09:45] <coz_> skitzo,  did you try the ctrl+d
[09:45] <skitzo> ? sorry dude im pretty lost atm first time switching to linux been a windows user for to long :)
[09:46] <Newbie-Widget> anyone familiar with getting either Touchpads or Wireless Networking up and running in Ubuntu 8.04  ??
[09:46] <coz_> skitzo,  are you talking to me?  if so  if you type the first 3 letters of someone's nick  then hit the tab button to complete it  it will change text colours of that person  so he knows you are talking to him :)
[09:47]  * shyam_k have been trying for some time now writing all different configurations for wvdial.conf but no success in getting net on system.. though its working inside phone
[09:47] <Wizzup> Hi. I recently got my hands on a wacom bamboo tablet. It is said to work out of the box on ubuntu 9.*, but it isn't even detected
[09:47] <shyam_k> mine is a sony ericsson w700i i had to change a seperate
[09:47] <hipitihop> the vlc 1.0.2 build in Karmic does not have upnp support, can someone help me to build it ?
[09:47] <skitzo> coz_, wicked haha
[09:47] <skitzo> or not
[09:47] <coz_> skitzo,   :)
[09:47] <shyam_k> mine is a sony ericsson w700i i had to change a seperate "Settings for Java" for the java apps like browsers to work
[09:47] <coz_> skitzo,  yeah that worked :)
[09:47] <skitzo> oh ahaha
[09:48] <Nasten> Hello Community! :-)
[09:48] <shyam_k> donno if there is someting similar for letting the modem to work for an external computer too..
[09:48] <Newbie-Widget> Hoe do i EDIT XORG.CONF ?
[09:48] <coz_> skitzo,  now if you go to the drive  that has say a music folder and  you want that to show up under the Places menu..go there and click on that folder  to open it  and then hit  ctrl+d  to list it under Places menu
[09:48] <Newbie-Widget> caps*
[09:48] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, maybe help w/ wifi.  do you have a wired connection in the meantime?
[09:48] <night> moanin
[09:49] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird: hi, yes using ethernet atm
[09:49] <coz_> skitzo,  I believe ...even on other drives ...that should show up under Places
[09:49] <hipitihop> Newbie-Widget, 'gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[09:49] <Newbie-Widget> hipitihop: ty :)
[09:50] <mnowluck> Newbie-Widget: Have you tried this yet? Applications>Terminal sudo pppoeconf
[09:50] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird: hardware Drivers says I have Atheros Hardware Access Layer and Support for Atheros 802.11 wifi lan card.. both ticked
[09:50] <qdb> zeppelin , why, about what you have said "full of win" today 5:21 gmt in #test channel? my os has been hacked at 4:40 gmt today. my xchat was running. it was also in #test channel. zeppelin is in  #ubuntu, #defocus, #freenode, #xchat now. i am going to write this in all or several of that channels. zeppelin has said that  by name dougdoug4 and changed name to zeppelin. i have written about hacking at http://qdb.wp.kukmara.ru/2009/12/16/how-my-os-is-hacked-today
[09:50] <Newbie-Widget> mnowluck; no oi havnt, will try now, thnx :)
[09:50] <qdb> / . zeppelins that irc domain/ip/ident i do not know what identificator is mailto:n=jacob@cpe-98-154-103-48.socal.res.rr.com in both 5:21 and now. i say this because there can be some suspicion, i do not know zeppelin, but may be this can help to somebody to understand more.   of  course this is very little suspicion against zeppelin. also there some dougdoug4 says that he is hacker this found in first page of google search now: http://forum.swiftirc.net/viewto
[09:51] <qdb> pic.php?f=6&t=21657&view=next  .
[09:51] <Nasten> so, i am facing very slow wlan file transfer and i can't find any solution anywhere
[09:51] <cheepo> guys
[09:51] <Nasten> i guess it's a common problem
[09:51] <skitzo> coz_, so theres no way to link? just that i have multiple folders that i would like to have linked into one folder without having add all my folders listed as well as the current ones
[09:51] <Nasten> any suggestions?
[09:52] <coz_> skitzo,  mmm   not sure then    if no one can help here you might try  ##linux channel
[09:52]  * mnowluck is testing how this pidgin works.. using mIRC for more than 3 years, first time using PIDGIN/Gaim
[09:52] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, hmm.  not familiar with that card.  do you know the chipset?
[09:52] <mnowluck> LOL.. mIRC commands do work here too
[09:52] <ardchoille> !ot | qdb
[09:52] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird: its in an older laptop, im pretty sure Atheros is the chipset
[09:53] <qdb> my os is ubuntu
[09:53] <Newbie-Widget> mnowluck: ran sudo pppoeconf , i think it only found my ethernet :S
[09:53] <skitzo> coz_, cheers mate
[09:54] <mnowluck> Newbie-Widget: Yeah that's for your ethernet connection
[09:54] <kristian_> hi, i've got a question about opening pics with the imageviewer
[09:54] <Slart> kristian_: just ask
[09:54] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, lspci -vnn | grep 14e4
[09:55] <kristian_> how do i open it directly just by clicking on the picture.
[09:55] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird: do i type that into terminal ?
[09:55] <riverbird> y
[09:55] <kristian_> since first gimp opens, then f-spot.
[09:55] <skitzo> coz_, btw im seeing that theres a x64 linux version d'oh! i got a x64 ready pc with windows 7 x64 dual booted would it be wise to reinstall a x64 version? and where do i find it?
[09:55] <kristian_> if i deinstall those then firefox opens the picture.
[09:56] <Slart> kristian_: double clicking on any file opens it in the default application for that file type.. if you want to change the default application you can do that by rightclicking on the file, selecting properties and changing the application in there
[09:56] <coz_> skitzo,  ok
[09:56] <kristian_> but never the picture viewer.
[09:56] <Nasten> ok, linksys router g-mode, linksys pci card bg-mode, laptop in g-mode. Excelent transfer via internet, excelent streaming HD movies berween the two pcs BUT 400KB/s file transfer between them. Am i the only one having that problem...?
[09:56] <ardchoille> kristian_: open nautilus, right-click the picture and choose Properties. Go to the Open With tab and choose the default app to open the picture
[09:57] <kristian_> thank you.
[09:57] <skitzo> coz_, ?
[09:57] <ardchoille> yw
[09:57] <mnowluck> Is there any IRC room for Wine?
[09:57] <coz_> skitzo,  sorry  I amy have answered  for the wrong person :)
[09:57] <DJones> !wine
[09:57] <mnowluck> i need somehelp with using that soft
[09:58] <Aciid> mnowluck: #winehq
[09:58] <mnowluck> thanks Aciid.. ubottu.. you're simply an awesome bot too
[09:59] <Aciid> =)
[09:59] <Newbie-Widget> i can see the touchpad for my laptop in the xorg.conf .. but i cant see where i have to set SHMconf to True...
[10:00] <Nasten> is there anyone into private talking about wlans? :-p
[10:00] <Nasten> any other specific channel about wlans maybe?
[10:01] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, yes, in terminal.  something like, AR5211 ..
[10:02] <jas72z> amarok gives me no sound when playing track
[10:02] <mnowluck> I typed this in the terminal and my firefox won't start again LOL ﻿sudo apt-get install firefox-3.0. Do I need to reboot it like windows too ? LOL
[10:03] <LiLiana> hola
[10:03] <edgimar> Is it still the case in Karmic that /etc/passwd has the group id of each user set to a group having the same name as the username?  I ask because on my system, nearly all the group-ids in /etc/passwd are set to 65534 ('nogroup').
[10:04] <cyberjorge> hi
[10:05] <om26er> !hi | cyberjorge
[10:05] <cyberjorge> I want to install linux-image-xen but it says "no candidate version found"
[10:05] <harm> mnowluck > what happens if you type firefox in a terminal window?
[10:05] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird:  im still not sure where to type AR5211 :S.. if its any help, the laptop is a Toshiba A100 Portege, model; PPA10A-0002LP
[10:05] <cyberjorge> how do I install the Xen kernel for Ubuntu 9.10?
[10:06] <mnowluck> harm: after I did that it unpack the firefox db and it prompts me to restart my firefox
[10:06] <cyberjorge> hi om26er :)
[10:06] <mnowluck> and it will no longer start now
[10:06] <om26er> !xen
[10:08] <cyberjorge> om26er: I actually installed Ubuntu under Xenserver just want to install the Xen modules to Paravirtualize it.
[10:08] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, no help.  try 'lspci -vnn | grep 14e4' in terminal, look for something like AR5211 ..
[10:08] <nonexks> holy crap i just had to reboot ubuntu lol
[10:08] <aseko> hello
[10:08] <om26er> !hello | aseko
[10:09] <Flannel____> ubottu: hi
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[10:09] <q2> Where do I get help with the sound preferences?
[10:09] <Flannel____> Posey: i am fine
[10:09] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird:  ok, i typed 1spci -v | less into terminal, and the wifi says  CardBus bridge: Atheros Communications Inc. AR5212/AR5213 Multiprotocol MAC/baseband processor
[10:09] <Flannel____> I am the ops.
[10:09] <Nasten> Hi, how can i move my bottom panel to the right side of the screen?
[10:09] <Posey> Flannel____, arent you the ops here?
[10:09] <Flannel____> ikonia: u r amd
[10:10] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, that works too.  AR5212/5213 is the actual chipset you have
[10:10] <paissad-hp> hi all, i try to recompile tora package, but when i do "apt-get source tora", i have no "configure" word into debian/rules
[10:10] <paissad-hp> may someone who has a little time do an "apt-source tora"  and look where i must change theh configure options ?
[10:10] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird; that chipset is what i need ?
[10:10] <paissad-hp> thanks in advance
[10:11] <skitzo> hey guys im a bit lost i didn't realise there was a x64 of ubuntu.. all i saw on the ubuntu site was a x32 :(
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[10:11] <Flannel____>    1.
[10:12] <ikonia> Flannel____: stop that now
[10:12] <ardchoille> Thank you ikonia
[10:13] <aseko> im looking for an ubuntu developer
[10:13] <jpds> aseko: Hi.
[10:13] <ikonia> aseko: what's the problem
[10:13] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, the info tells you if your specific chip is supported (looks like it is) and also helps configure it properly
[10:13] <aseko> no problem, i have a suggestion for be next lts release
[10:14] <om26er> aseko: brainstorm.ubuntu.com
[10:14] <jpds> aseko: File a wishlist bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/
[10:14] <aseko> thx guys
[10:14] <somebee> need to do anything special after deleting large files? I've deleted gigabytes of files, but ubuntu still reports the disk as being full (server)
[10:14] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird: cool :) .. now i just need to confure it so i can get onto a wireless network ;S
[10:14] <skitzo> anybody? just dont wanna get to far along if im going to have to reinstall a x64 version of ubuntu
[10:15] <anon423> hi
[10:15] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, are you getting error msgs?
[10:15] <anon423> what exactly does developer files mean? is it the source?
[10:15] <nonexks> i wonder how many programers wow keeps on the books
[10:16] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird: none that i can see... i just cant see the option in the Network settings to connect to a wiless network
[10:16] <q2> how do I get a list of commands for freenode, is says "/msg command" but I don't know any commands!
[10:16] <ardchoille> q2: /msg nickserv help
[10:16] <thehigherentity> can anyone point me to a working howto on getting mail-notification with ssl to work I have googled and tried a few of the ones that turned up but still have no working ssl (ubuntu 9.10)
[10:16] <vegombrei> hello ... i just got a new graphics card .. its a asus EAH 4890 ddr5 1 gb .. i need to know if i need any drivers of anysort to work this .. on booting it downloaded and installed ati drivers .. i guess thats it right ...
[10:17] <q2> ardchoille: when I enter that I get "Unsupported command"
[10:17] <om26er> q2: Install pidgin
[10:18] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird; if i got network settings, the only adapters i see are for etherenet and dial up modem
[10:18] <ardchoille> q2: which irc client are you using? that command works in several clients
[10:18] <om26er> q2: or anyother irc client, cuz empathy 2.28 don't support commands
[10:18] <q2> om26er: so, the command is fine it is the client I am using?
[10:18] <airtonix> anon423, yes but more specifically it is usually to provide bindings with other packages in order that they may compile properly
[10:19] <airtonix> !ot | nonexks
[10:19] <q2> om26er: Yes, empathy. And it has been a challenge. And my first experience with IRC and IM.
[10:19] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, do you have the network manager installed?
[10:19] <ardchoille> q2: First time IRC? I would recommend xchat
[10:19] <om26er> q2: irc commands will  be fixed in next release of empathy, in the mean time use some other client
[10:19] <airtonix> q2, you will benefit from irc more if you use xchat or irssi rather than pidgin or empathy
[10:20] <cark_> ?
[10:20] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird: mmmm... not too sure :\
[10:20] <zamba> i'm having huge problems with my X server and performance while playing full screen youtube.. my graphic card is a Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller.. as far as i can tell i'm using the intel driver
[10:20]  * om26er thinks for basic irc chat client doesn't matter
[10:20] <cark_> alguien que hable español?
[10:20] <om26er> !es | cark_
[10:20] <q2> ardchoille and om26er: Cheers - I, do that.
[10:20] <cark_> oki gracias.
[10:21] <zamba> i have no xorg.conf and glxinfo segfaults
[10:22] <indus> zamba: well its empty generally in 9l10
[10:22] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, Applications/add.remove
[10:22] <zamba> indus: i'm running 9.04
[10:22]  * om26er says its not there
[10:22] <indus> zamba: what is your display
[10:22] <zamba> indus: the graphic card, you mean?
[10:22] <indus> zamba: yes
[10:22] <zamba> indus: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[10:22] <om26er> !music
[10:23] <indus> zamba: do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:23] <indus> zamba: then restart X
[10:23] <indus> zamba: i suggest moving to 9.10 a lot of fixes for intel
[10:23] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird: network manager does have a tick next to it
[10:23] <indus> !intel
[10:23] <zamba> indus: oh!
[10:23] <indus> !intel | zamba
[10:23] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, is it on your taskbar?
[10:24] <subsam> need pro like idm in ubuntu
[10:24] <zamba> indus: how do i upgrade?
[10:24] <zamba> indus: i'm running lots of ubuntu computers in a network lab
[10:24] <zamba> indus: so i need to do this remotely, instead of going from computer to computer
[10:24] <indus> zamba: well, in update manager, you will find new release 9.10 available
[10:24] <subsam> need pro like idm in ubuntu
[10:24] <zamba> indus: can't run update manager
[10:24] <indus> zamba: why
[10:24] <zamba> indus: since i'm doing this remotely over ssh
[10:25] <subsam> need pro like idm in ubuntu
[10:25] <ardchoille> subsam: Can you elaborate on that please?
[10:25] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, as an icon?
[10:25] <om26er> !repeat | subsam
[10:25] <zamba> indus: and i'm going to do this on 40-50 computers at the same time
[10:25] <Slart> subsam: just ask your question
[10:25] <indus> zamba: ok wait 1 sec
[10:25] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird: i did a search in add/rmove for network and saw it there. but, there is a "manual network configuration" icon near the clock..
[10:25] <om26er> subsam: try multiget.
[10:25] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird: but opening that only shows ethernet and dialup modem devices
[10:26] <subsam> need pro cut the files to 4 , 8 ,16 peaces like idm in windows
[10:26] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, if it is checked then its already installed
[10:26] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, how about right click?
[10:26] <subsam> is there any pro like this in linux ?
[10:26] <om26er> is there a gui for xmms
[10:26] <om26er> xmms2
[10:27] <reverebeer> i installed the libapache2-mod-php5 package. php runs fine, but now i want to connect to mysql databases. my code is giving me "undefined function" fatal errors when trying to connect to my db. i've read that i need to compile php with the --with-mysql option for my build to have mysql support, but im using the mod-php5 package... i can't just rebuild it with this option. what should i do?
[10:27] <somebee> do you need to do anything special after deleting large files? I've deleted gigabytes of files, but ubuntu still reports the disk as being full (server)
[10:27] <Slart> somebee: empty the trash?
[10:27] <somebee> Slart: does rm put things into trash on ubuntu server?
[10:27] <Slart> somebee: or wait.. command line.. nevermind
[10:28] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird: the ethernet is ticked.. that works all good.. using laptop on ethernet now.. hmm... right click gives me option to "edit wireless network"... no option to search or roam for a nearby one though.. i tihnk it'll only let me manually setup..
[10:28] <subsam> need the best download pro in linux /
[10:28] <subsam> ?
[10:28] <somebee> I have even deleted single files that were over 10GB each, and the server still reports 4GB available
[10:28] <Goliath> [12:27] <Goliath> I removed by mistake sudo with pacman. Whoever pacman saved /etc/sudoers as /etc/sudoers.pacsave, so when i installed again sudo i removed the new sudoers and used the old. But when i run a command using sudo i get this:
[10:28] <Goliath> [12:27] <Goliath> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0644, should be 0440
[10:28] <Goliath> [12:27] <Goliath> sudo: no valid sudoers sources found, quitting
[10:28] <Slart> somebee: no it doesn't.. unless someone has aliased rm to make some kind of homebrew trash feature
[10:28] <subsam> what is the best pro in download in ubuntu ?
[10:29] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird: it's all greyed out in wireless options
[10:29] <Slart> Goliath: have you been editing your sudoers file?
[10:29] <subsam> what is the best downloading pro in ubuntu ?
[10:29] <airtonix> !best | subsam
[10:29] <ardchoille> !patience | subsam
[10:29] <indus> zamba: can you tell me your setup
[10:29] <Slart> subsam: to be quite honest I'm not sure I understand what you're looking for.. wget is nice for terminal downloading
[10:29] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, is there a box to 'enable networking' or 'enable wireless'?
[10:29] <zamba> indus: do-release-upgrade
[10:29] <zamba> indus: looks like the way to go
[10:29] <indus> zamba: yes works too
[10:30] <allister> can anyone help me with this window tearing problem im having?
[10:30] <zamba> indus: only problem is that i'm using an apt proxy
[10:30] <zamba> indus: and that seems to be blocking the upgrade
[10:30] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird: yes, there's an 'enable networking' box, it's currently ticked
[10:30] <ZIv25> Hello , how can i cancel the ssh session time ? so i can leave the ssh connection open for unlimited time ?
[10:30] <airtonix> zamba, you also have the option of using a program that sends same terminal command at once to many machines
[10:30] <zamba> airtonix: yeah, going to use cluster-ssh
[10:30] <subsam> all this pros is so bord
[10:30] <subsam> board
[10:30] <indus> zamba: does the normal update process work?
[10:30] <zamba> indus: sure
[10:31] <airtonix> zamba, no i think its called something else, but if that works for you then thats good
[10:31] <Seveas> zamba, look at keyboardcast too
[10:31] <Slart> subsam: have a look here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_download_managers
[10:31] <zamba> Seveas: oh.. is that 'better'?
[10:31] <subsam> i'm ask for fastest one
[10:31] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, but nothing for wireless?  ok
[10:31] <ardchoille> subsam: What is your native language? There may be a channel which is better suited for you.
[10:31] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird: nope, nothing :S
[10:31] <Seveas> zamba, it's GTK so looks nicer, has a nice spawn option and an option to grab existing windows
[10:31] <zamba> Seveas: ah, ok
[10:32] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, seems it is not recognizing your chip yet ..
[10:32] <Seveas> so I consider it better :)
[10:32] <naaxaa> hi! a not really ubuntu related question... after i've downloaded a source code in a tgz or via svn, how can I "convert" it to build and work with it in an IDE, e.g. CodeBlocks,Visual Studio, Netbeans, etc. they are always creating something called "project"... but what to do with the plain source files. how is this "conversion" called
[10:32] <subsam> sry .  i don't speak inglish well
[10:32] <subsam> forgivin if is there any mistack
[10:32] <ardchoille> subsam: No problem, what is your native language?
[10:32] <Diverdude> Does there exist a program for ubuntu that will group all tasks in the taskpane, so that e.g. all terminals will be grouped together, all browsers will be grouped together etc. ?
[10:32] <subsam> arabic
[10:33] <allister> is anyone willing to talk to me in private chat to help me with some GUI issues?
[10:33] <Slart> naaxaa: not entirely sure you can do it, generally speaking
[10:33] <indus> allister: ask here is good
[10:33] <airtonix> zamba, i think it might of been dsh
[10:33] <ardchoille> subsam: you might want to look at gwget
[10:33] <airtonix> !info dsh | zamba
[10:34] <subsam> not good
[10:34] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird: anything i can try to check if its online, or maybe uninstall and re-detect ?
[10:34] <allister> well i was fixing my wireless issues, and when i finally found a solution and install the stuff, after i restarted, my screen has almost no framerate
[10:34] <allister> windows tear really badly if i try to move them
[10:34] <allister> so does scrolling anything
[10:34] <cobhcf82> Hi guys, is there an javascript SDK for eclipse? I know jeclipse exixts but i am not sure if it is available for ubuntu karmic
[10:34] <allister> and images wont load on webpages
[10:34] <subsam> like the others
[10:35] <indus> allister:is visual effects on
[10:35] <subsam> i need somthing like dab or idm
[10:35] <allister> no
[10:35] <airtonix> zamba, you also have these two commands (somewhere) : http://www.stearns.org/fanout/README.html
[10:35] <allister> it wont let me even enable visual effects
[10:35] <subsam> cut the files and get the fastest download speed
[10:35] <allister> ive authorized my driver and everything
[10:35] <naaxaa> Slart: really? so how does open source programming work if I can't open the code easily?
[10:35] <allister> and i dont have compiz running either
[10:36] <Diverdude> Does there exist a program for ubuntu that will group all tasks in the taskpane, so that e.g. all terminals will be grouped together, all browsers will be grouped together etc. ?
[10:36] <Slart> naaxaa: you mean.. how does open source programmers survive without a fancy IDE or similar?
[10:36] <ardchoille> Diverdude: you can right click the task bar and choose to group in the prefs
[10:37] <Slart> naaxaa: use a text editor.. emacs, vi(m), gedit... any of those will work
[10:37] <naaxaa> Slart: well I don't like IDEs but I am confused: how does a source tarball and an IDE project comes together
[10:37] <skitzo> hey guys im a bit lost with the grub loader at startup theres a couple versions of ubuntu.. which is the correct one to load and how can i clean it up so i can only pick the correct ubuntu version and windows?
[10:37] <indus> !who | allister
[10:37] <Slart> !code | naaxaa
[10:37] <airtonix> subsam, firefox plugin i use called downthemall, you might like it (lets you download one file with multiple threads)
[10:38] <Diverdude> ardchoille, hmmm i dont see that option
[10:38] <cobhcf82> skitzo:, I have the same question.
[10:38] <subsam> excuse, me every body , i need a download pro like idm or dab in ubuntu ?
[10:38] <ardchoille> Diverdude: right click the left edge of the taskbar applet, choose preferences and then choose grouping
[10:38] <skitzo> cobhcf82, ITS ANNOYING AYE!
[10:38] <Slart> naaxaa: unless the developers themselves use a certain IDE I'm not sure you can.. many use text editors of different kinds
[10:38] <subsam> thanx dude bt this is a very normal program
[10:38] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, maybe try rebooting if you haven't.  and check here for more .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Atheros
[10:38] <naaxaa> Slart: ok thanks :) so I see this is not an easy task after all?
[10:38] <airtonix> naaxaa, open source programmers work with their projects the same way any other group of programmers do.
[10:39] <cobhcf82> skitzo: yup, no idea on how to clean it up.
[10:39] <Diverdude> ardchoille, ahhh yes there it is
[10:39] <Diverdude> coool :D thanks
[10:39] <ardchoille> yw
[10:39] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, i'm not sure how you loaded drivers, so not sure which parts of that page will apply
[10:39] <airtonix> naaxaa, also : why do you need to 'open the code'
[10:39] <cobhcf82> skitzo: when I installed there was only 3 version. but since then one week has passed and suddenly one more appeared out of nowhere. lol
[10:39] <Slart> naaxaa: nope.. have a look at the make files and autoconf.. I think those are pretty common.. both can be used with plain text editors
[10:39] <naaxaa> airtonix: ok it's not about opensource or not, my question is if you have a bunch of source files but you don't have a project file, how do you build your project
[10:39] <ardchoille> cobhcf82: that happens with a kernel update
[10:39] <Newbie-Widget> river: ok, thank you anyway, you've been great help ;) .. ill check out that link and try rebooting
[10:40] <Newbie-Widget> :)
[10:40] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird: i mean :)
[10:40] <cobhcf82> ardchoille: how do I do a kernel update? i am quite new to ubuntu
[10:40] <naaxaa> Slart: yeah I know. but there are projects out there without them. how do those people do it?
[10:40] <ardchoille> cobhcf82: just make sure your system is kept up to date
[10:41] <airtonix> naaxaa, understood, 1) you typically get the source files from the projects website ( they usually have a revision control server setup) 2) you obtain latest set of files with the CVS/git/bazzar/etc client 3) then you make a new project in your IDE of choice 4) point the projets root dir a the root dir of the files you just sync'd
[10:41] <Slart> naaxaa: I'm just going to repeat myself....  they   use    a   simple   text   editor =)
[10:41] <cobhcf82> ardchoille: yeah, i run the update manager every 3,4 days
[10:41] <zebastian> can ubuntu be put into an iphone touch 3gs?
[10:41] <Slart> naaxaa: (simple text editor might be something huuge and complex like emacs.. but still)
[10:41] <ardchoille> cobhcf82: that will do it. But the fact that you now have a new kernel "from no where" is because of a kernel update
[10:41] <cobhcf82> ah ok
[10:42] <naaxaa> airtonix: aah.... that's it! I would never tried it couse i were affraid that i overwrite it :D
[10:42] <cobhcf82> archoille: why is there 3,4 version of ubuntu on the GRUB loader though? how can i clean up the old ones?
[10:42] <skitzo> ardchoille, so which kernel should we pick when choosing? which is the latest?
[10:42] <cobhcf82> ardchoille: why is there 3,4 version of ubuntu on the GRUB loader though? how can i clean up the old ones?
[10:42] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, that page should help.  check the blacklists and isntalled packages.  also read the forum post
[10:42] <Slart> naaxaa: you open a source file.. edit it the way you want it.. save it.. then use a terminal for compiling, building or whatever you want to do
[10:42] <naaxaa> airtonix, Slart : thanks!
[10:42] <Newbie-Widget> riverbird: will do, thanks again :)
[10:42] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, alternately, get a pc card w/ better support -
[10:43] <skitzo> ardchoille, and can we edit the unused ones out to clean it up
[10:43] <naaxaa> Slart: yeah I know this method but i never get it how to do it with an ide
[10:43] <riverbird> Newbie-Widget, hah!
[10:43] <AlexanderSupertr> kubuntu questions answered here?
[10:43] <ardchoille> cobhcf82: skitzo , I don't usually mess with kernels and so am not qualified to give proper advice. I just keep them all.
[10:43] <AlexanderSupertr> how do i rearrange order of widgets on default kde panel?
[10:43] <naaxaa> Slart, airtonix : thank you very much! now I've gotta go. bye!
[10:43] <ardchoille> cobhcf82: skitzo , The latest one will have the highest version number, I do know that
[10:43] <skitzo> ardchoille, so is there any real difference between them?
[10:43] <cobhcf82> ardchoille: thanks man, its not problem for me. Just annoying to go past 6,7 lines to select win 7. :-D
[10:44] <ardchoille> skitzo: yes, could be bug fixes and/or security updates
[10:44] <skitzo> ardchoille, thanks anyway
[10:44] <ardchoille> cobhcf82: yes, I agree. There are folks here that can help you clean them up so keep trying
[10:44] <Guest99294> hi
[10:45] <cobhcf82> ardchoille: thanks mate. will do.
[10:46] <cobhcf82> guys, does anyone know of a javascript IDE for eclipse in ubuntu karmic? I am not sure if jeclipse works on ubuntu.
[10:46] <jadakren> cobhcf82, aptana
[10:46] <cobhcf82> sorry not IDE, its SDK
[10:46] <jadakren> cobhcf82, you mean javascript gtk bindings ?
[10:47] <cobhcf82> jadakren: I have eclipse galileo, was wondering if I can can create javascript with that. I know jeclipse sdk let users build javascript with eclipse.
[10:47] <zebastian> ubuntu on iphone touch?
[10:47] <kraut> moin
[10:47] <jadakren> cobhcf82, you don't compile javascript
[10:48] <cobhcf82> jadakren, but I would like some kind of sdk to complete lines etc.
[10:48] <jadakren> cobhcf82, aptana does this ( i dont know about or use eclipse )
[10:48] <Guest99294> can't(technically) ubuntu be on a itouch through the broches emu?
[10:48] <Guest99294> *can
[10:48] <allister> Is there anyone who might be able to help me troubleshoot why ive been having some really bad video problems?
[10:49] <cobhcf82> jadakren: ok, then it should come in handy. I will look into downloading that. thanks mate.
[10:49] <jadakren> cobhcf82, http://www.aptana.org/studio/download
[10:50] <cobhcf82> jadakren: looks like they aptana has an eclipse plugin. this is great. :)
[10:50] <Guest99294> nvm
[10:50] <indus> allister: what is the output of lspci
[10:51] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[10:51] <cobhcf82> hello....
[10:52] <riverbird> zebastian, nope
[10:52] <zebastian> riverbird: but i can use an iphone with my ubuntu os right tho? like transfer files from my laptop
[10:53] <ShapeShifter499> how do I back up my entire ubuntu system to another computer as a file(the dd command?) through ssh or other wireless connection? I need to do this cuz the computer with ubuntu needs to be fixed and I need to put win 7 on it to send it in
[10:53] <nonexks> what is the command to tell me what version of ubuntu is currently runing on a linux box
[10:53] <DJones> !version | nonexks
[10:53] <JoeBorg> I am a version 1.1.0 PyBorg
[10:53] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[10:53] <nonexks> ty
[10:54] <stanley_robertso> iam new to this ubuntu.. can somebody suggest me.. which channel i should go as a newebie ?
[10:54] <DJones> stanley_robertso: You're in the right channel, if you've got questions, just ask them
[10:54] <stanley_robertso> i would like to contribute to ubuntu development.. is there any such facility ?
[10:55] <nonexks> ok its runing 8..04 if i wanted to update to 9.10 is there a way to do that with out messing up any of my configs
[10:55] <DJones> !contibute | stanley_robertso
[10:55] <stanley_robertso> DJones, i didnot get you
[10:55] <dAlfa89_> !contribute | stanley_robertso
[10:55] <riverbird> zebastian, not really.  some pics+, no music tmk
[10:56] <nonexks> !ubuntu upgrade
[10:56] <riverbird> zebastian, check the forums for detail
[10:56] <dAlfa89_> !upgrade | nonexks
[10:56] <DJones> stanley_robertso: Ignore that, I thought that was the prod to get the bot to tell you how to get involved, but i spelt it wrong, dAlfa89_ got the right one
[10:56] <ats> hi
[10:56] <jadakren> nonexks, not if you haven't prepared properly for it prior to installing your current version
[10:56] <nonexks> k ty
[10:57] <acid> how to check last package being updated / upgraded ? is there any command to do so
[10:57] <crushy> hi
[10:57] <DEViUS> hi to all, my ubuntu has become slow after i installed wine and some stuff from winetricks, can someone help me
[10:57] <legend2440> acid: open synaptic>file>history
[10:57] <allister> indus: the output is giving alot of stuff
[10:58] <acid> legend2440: thanks
[10:58] <allister> indus: what exactly are you looking for?
[10:58] <acid> legend2440: any command line for such ?
[10:58] <legend2440> acid: if there is i dont know it
[10:59] <Ademan> what's the pypy package name again?
[10:59] <acid> legend2440: ok
[11:01] <guestable> asd
[11:02] <DEViUS> hi to all, my ubuntu has become slow after i installed wine and some stuff from winetricks, can someone help me
[11:03] <nonexks> ok so i dont see anything on that page about preparing upgrades
[11:03] <riverbird> nonexks, i would wait. for 10.04 - you will be able to direct upgrade from 8.04
[11:03] <nonexks> how long till that comes out
[11:04] <riverbird> nonexks, to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.10 you would have to upgrade through all the releases in between
[11:05] <riverbird> nonexks, 10.04  aka 2010 april
[11:05] <nonexks> neet ... thanks
[11:05] <riverbird> nonexks, de nada
[11:06] <nonexks> well im out thanks for the info
[11:07] <HaskellLove> i installed itunes on ubuntu how do i turn it on now? where is it installed?
[11:07] <HaskellLove> i used wine
[11:07] <CShadowRun> HaskellLove: applications > wine > programs > itunes ?
[11:07] <HaskellLove> CShadowRun>	it is not there
[11:09] <blinkiz> Hi. I have problem installing the program Chandler from the deb file for jaunty. It complains it can not find "python-zopeinterface" in my ubuntu karmic installation. the package was renamed in karmic and is now !
[11:09] <ardchoille> blinkiz: it's a very bad idea to mix releases packages like that
[11:10] <blinkiz> Hi. I have problem installing the program Chandler from the deb file for jaunty. It complains it can not find "python-zopeinterface" in my ubuntu karmic installation. the package was renamed in karmic and is now "python-zope.interface". How can I fix this without having to rebuild the deb package?
[11:10] <ShapeShifter499> how do I back up my entire ubuntu system to another computer as a file(the dd command?) through ssh or other wireless connection? I need to do this cuz the computer with ubuntu needs to be fixed and I need to put win 7 on it to send it in
[11:10] <riverbird> i think we've been overrun by trolls ..
[11:10] <steveire_> I've just done sudo aptitude install libhibernate3-java{,-doc}
[11:10] <steveire_> But how do I actually get the docs now?
[11:11] <HaskellLove> i installed itunes on ubuntu with wine how do i turn it on now? where is it installed?
[11:11] <jianzhen3> I wan't to run a program using command ,but when I put the program's name in the box,nothing was happened,what can I do?
[11:12] <ardchoille> riverbird: you may be right :(
[11:12] <crushy> how to setup networking in windows xen guest
[11:12] <jianzhen3> I find the programm's name was not the bin type file's name
[11:13] <indus> allister: hi
[11:13] <indus> allister: did you finish?
[11:13] <riverbird> ardchoille, hey look.  two real people and no real problems .. not bad
[11:13] <HaskellLove> i installed itunes on ubuntu with wine how do i turn it on now? where is it installed?
[11:13] <ardchoille> hehe
[11:13] <potato2> .h
[11:13] <jianzhen3> but how can I find the bin type file 's name ?
[11:13] <jianzhen3> can anyone help me?
[11:14] <ardchoille> !repeat
[11:14] <indus> jianzhen3: hello
[11:14] <indus> jianzhen3: what is this program
[11:14] <allister> indus: I did it and restarted, and it is still having the same problem
[11:15] <indus> allister: did you install from hardware drivers?
[11:15] <allister> indus: yes
[11:15] <indus> allister: show me a screenshot of the hardware drivers window
[11:15] <indus> !paste | allister
[11:16] <HaskellLove> what is the ubuntu equal of this windows command: ipconfig /flushdns
[11:16] <free_> logout
[11:16] <Black_Phantom> what is the most lightweight desktop envir. ?
[11:16] <HaskellLove> free_?
[11:16] <CShadowRun> Black_Phantom: maybe lxde or xfce
[11:16] <larsaa> Black_Phantom: openbox
[11:17] <ardchoille> Black_Phantom: I would say xfce, but there are window managers that are even lighter, likfe openbox
[11:17] <ardchoille> s/likfe/like/
[11:17] <DjAngo23> Can I change the time a notification appears on the screen (i'm using Gnome, so it should be gnome-notify right ?)
[11:17] <Black_Phantom> coz i have this crappy celeron
[11:17] <ardchoille> Black_Phantom: I use Window Maker, it's quite small and fast
[11:17] <TeLLuS> ShapeShifter499: tar or dd or partImage or ddrescue. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/backup
[11:17] <larsaa> Black_Phantom: enlightenment
[11:18] <Black_Phantom> larsaa: enlightenment is lighter than openbox?
[11:18] <ardchoille> Black_Phantom: fluxbox is also quite popular
[11:19] <Black_Phantom> damn there are many
[11:19] <Spajderix> hi
[11:19] <ardchoille> Black_Phantom: http://xwinman.org
[11:19] <Spajderix> do you know any software that can emulate access point without Master mode in wireless device?
[11:19] <jianzhen3> indus: for example, the video player
[11:19] <larsaa> Black_Phantom: nah, as ardchoille mentioned, openbox is just a window manager...
[11:20] <jah> yahoo
[11:20] <jianzhen3> for example,the vedio player
[11:20] <Black_Phantom> so what do you suggest for a dusty celeron ?
[11:20] <jianzhen3> indus:for example,the vedio player
[11:21] <ardchoille> Black_Phantom: You really should try a few and see which works best for your needs
[11:21] <Black_Phantom> ardchoille oh ok thanks man:)
[11:22] <DjAngo23> Can I change the time a notification appears on the screen (i'm using Gnome, so it should be gnome-notify right ?)
[11:22] <Black_Phantom> one more thing, i will just for example: apt-get install enlightement
[11:22] <Black_Phantom> ?
[11:22] <Black_Phantom> and i will find them in the login screen options ?
[11:23] <frogzoo> probably
[11:23] <blinkiz> How do I remove a package without removing other packages that depends on that package? Yes, I know I will break things..
[11:23] <allister> indus: did you recieve the link?
[11:24] <ardchoille> Black_Phantom: yes
[11:24] <Black_Phantom> cool thanks
[11:24] <ardchoille> Black_Phantom: Any desktops or window managers should put an option in the login screen sessions list
[11:24] <ShapeShifter499> TeLLuS: that link you gave, can I use dd_restore over a internet conection?
[11:25] <ShapeShifter499> TeLLuS: I mean dd_rescue
[11:25] <ardchoille> Black_Phantom: be aware that window managers, like fluxbox and enlightenment, are a bit different from full desktop environments like xfce or gnome
[11:25] <Black_Phantom> incase I didnt like them i will just switch back to gnome
[11:26] <ardchoille> Black_Phantom: your celeron will like window managers :)
[11:26] <Black_Phantom> lol:)
[11:28] <TED111222> zzzzzzzzz
[11:28] <TED111222> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[11:29] <Seveas> TED111222, WAKE UP! :P
[11:29] <ardchoille> TED111222: Please stop
[11:29] <TED111222> hihihihih
[11:29] <TED111222> i got bored
[11:29] <Seveas> TED111222, www.bash.org is a cure for the bored. See also what ubottu is about to say
[11:29] <dare> hi, I just installed the nautilus-dbg package but 'gdb nautilus' says debug symbols still not found
[11:29] <Seveas> !ot | TED111222
[11:30] <TED111222> ok, question:
[11:30] <gp> hello my laptop Mother board just went off ...how do i recover my data
[11:30] <TED111222> anyone have experience in opengts
[11:30] <TED111222> ?
[11:30] <docmax> hello, where do i set default filetype associations?
[11:31] <gp> i was using ecryptfs
[11:31] <docmax> hello, where do i set default programs for filetype?
[11:31] <gp> my home directory was encrypted
[11:31] <ardchoille> docmax: right click a file, choose Properties, go to the "Open With" tab and set it
[11:31] <gp> PL HELP !! to recoovrer my data
[11:31] <docmax> i can choose "open with..." but cannot set anything permanently
[11:32] <jpds> gp: Backup?
[11:32] <gp> no backup unfortunately
[11:32] <gp> but hdd is working
[11:32] <TED111222> gp: run the live cd and try to get your data back
[11:32] <gp> how
[11:32] <gp> ??
[11:32] <aaron11> Amaranth: Its not good to stay ops all the time as freenode says
[11:32] <TED111222> download ubuntu and burn it on a disc
[11:33] <docmax> ardchoille, ?
[11:33] <TED111222> plug the disc in your disc drive
[11:33] <yacc> Just wondering, has anyone why my system sometimes does not start all services?
[11:33] <gp> how do i recover data from encrypted home directory ?????????
[11:33] <dare> aaron11: indeed, persistent op status is as dangerous as "sudo su"!!
[11:33] <gp> how how how
[11:33] <yacc> I've noticed that when I manage to start all crypt discs, it starts up fine.
[11:33] <dare> i.e. not very =p
[11:34] <yacc> If I do not manage to start all crypt discs in time, I get a gdm session, but for example mysql, tor, ... are not running.
[11:34] <gp> please in the name of giant pand help me
[11:34] <yacc> gp: you have the key?
[11:34] <gp> what key
[11:34] <sealive> Hi quest over wubi  can i install kubuntu offline  what cd do i need to do so
[11:34] <yacc> And no text mode gettys running either.
[11:35] <yacc> gp: well the key that was used to encrypt your data?
[11:35] <aaron11> dare: Lol! Maybey he is on his mad side
[11:35] <gp> maybe
[11:35] <NickRiviera> HI EVERYBODY!
[11:35] <yacc> if you have, then just use it. If no, then no, there is no way to restore your data.
[11:36] <docmax> how do i set default programs for filetypes? i can choose "open with..." but cannot set anything *permanently* - any ideas?
[11:36] <gp> when inserted the harddisk into another system ...it asked to me to run ecrypts-private-mout that asked me for password
[11:36] <NickRiviera> I have a rather noob question... I've noticed many services run under their own user/group; but when I look in the User Settings, I cannot see those users. I can see the groups, but no users. Why?
[11:36] <kinja-sheep> docmax: Right-click on the file and change settings in Properties.
[11:36] <yacc> Nickmman, system users.
[11:36] <yacc> NickRiviera, system users.
[11:36] <sealive> someone can help me with some basics over wubi
[11:37] <yacc> Nickmman, sorry, wrongly tabbed.
[11:37] <gp> i entered password but it gave messege like inserted some in keyring etc
[11:37] <gp> but didnt mount anything
[11:37] <NickRiviera> yaaar, I immagined that. And how are they flagged 'system'? How can I manage them?
[11:37] <yacc> gp can you click on it in Nautilus?
[11:37] <NickRiviera> yaaar, np
[11:38] <yacc> NickRiviera, you do not manage them, usually, and they are flagged by having a low uid.
[11:38] <gp> no my system boot in readonly file system
[11:38] <yacc> NickRiviera, the system manages them by itself.
[11:38] <gp> so i got read only root shell access
[11:38] <yacc> gp: then you need to fix that first.
[11:38] <yacc> gp: why did it boot into readonly mode only?
[11:38] <gp> its gives some ecrypt error then boots into root shell
[11:38] <yacc> Is there a way to increase the time the system waits for the root filesystem and others?
[11:38] <NickRiviera> yacc, Ok, suppose I need to change the user under which mysql runs (from mysql to sql). Is that too much of a hassle?
[11:39] <yacc> NickRiviera, Why would you want that to do?
[11:39] <NickRiviera> yacc  I don't, but suppose I did.
[11:39] <yacc> NickRiviera, And yes, it's almost not worth it, because all kinds of system scripts will probably break.
[11:39] <devD> whenever I try to install anything it shows this http://is.gd/5pQKl
[11:39] <NickRiviera> yacc, since they all know mysql runs under user mysql...
[11:40] <Stormcr0w> Hi everyone. I have upgraded from 8.10 to 9.10 and my usplash screen has stayed the same. How can I upgrade it, so that it displays the latest official usplash screen?
[11:40] <NjA> Hello, im building a ATi Radeon driver http://ccite.dk/xorg.conf but i cant get compiz to work any suggestions
[11:40] <yacc> NickRiviera, exactly, all packages that need to have their own user manage them with the provided automatic tools.
[11:40] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[11:40] <NickRiviera> yacc, is it possible to login as one such user?
[11:41] <docmax> kinja-sheep, thanks
[11:41] <NickRiviera> yacc for instance, login as mysql?
[11:41] <yacc> NickRiviera, sudo su -s /bin/sh mysql
[11:41] <yacc> but no, usually you cannot just login into such users.
[11:41] <NickRiviera> yacc can you break that down?
[11:41] <yacc> sudo => get root
[11:41] <NjA> http://ccite.dk/xorg.conf - No compiz, any suggestions
[11:41] <yacc> su change user
[11:42] <NickRiviera> those I knew... ;)
[11:42] <yacc> -s /bin/sh => user that shell (because most system users have no shell by default)
[11:42] <yacc> mysql => which user.
[11:42] <NickRiviera> ahhh!
[11:42] <yacc> Anyway to increase the timeout for the rootfs?
[11:42] <ViaNocturna85> NjA: which version of Ubuntu?
[11:43] <erUSUL> yacc: there is a boot option to change that..
[11:43] <yacc> erUSUL, details?
[11:43] <gp> yacc: while booting i get error ...error inserting padlock_sha
[11:43] <Stormcr0w> Hi everyone. I have upgraded from 8.10 to 9.10 and my usplash screen has stayed the same. How can I upgrade it, so that it displays the latest official usplash screen?
[11:44] <gp> after it enters read only root partition
[11:44] <devD> whenever I try to install anything it shows this http://is.gd/5pQKl
[11:44] <erUSUL> yacc: looking it up ... there are two. "rootwait" waits forever. rootdelay=[seconds]
[11:44] <yacc> gp: yeah, you've got a problem with modules and so on, you need to fix the problem with your readonly rootfs and the root shell first.
[11:44] <erUSUL> yacc: the last one should be obvious
[11:44] <NickRiviera> yacc: two more questions: 1) Are users/permissions/groups in Ubuntu too different from other *nix flavours? 2) Where should I look to learn more about users / permissions / groups for linux in general and/or ubuntu???
[11:44] <gp> yacc :how
[11:45] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[11:45] <erUSUL> NickRiviera: linux is posix. like many other unix. the security model is the same. there are posix ACL
[11:45] <yacc> NickRiviera, google, only thing is that Ubuntu like Debian defaults to "each user has it's own group", (google that too if you wonder why), ...
[11:45] <gp> yacc: how do i fix my problem
[11:45] <gp> pl tell me
[11:45] <batasan> devD: try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[11:45] <yacc> gp, well, padlock_sha is not the reason why you drop into a root shell.
[11:46] <TeLLuS> ShapeShifter499: ddrescue can write to a file and if you mount a remote server you can save the file on it over the network. same as most of the commands
[11:46] <yacc> gp, you do have already readonly access to your root filesystem?
[11:46] <gp> yes
[11:46] <yacc> you know what your root device is?
[11:46] <ActionParsnip1> devD: sudo apt-get -f install
[11:46] <yacc> gp: fsck /dev/YOUR_ROOT_DEVICE
[11:46] <devD> batasan, ActionParsnip1 I have tried that too and the result is http://is.gd/5pQNP
[11:46] <NickRiviera> yacc, yeah I noticed that... doesn't happen on Red Hat...
[11:47] <gp> YOUR_ROOT_DEVICE == sda ?
[11:47] <yacc> NickRiviera, if you want to figure for yourself, lookup umask and what setgid does when set on directories.
[11:47] <yacc> sda is the whole disc.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip1> devD: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/splashy_0.3.13-5ubuntu1_i386.deb; sudo apt-get -f install
[11:47] <NickRiviera> Also, I'm consufed as to why users have a 'main group' with their own name (or rather username) and when you 'manage groups', the user himself isnt't ticked inside his own group...
[11:47] <devD> ActionParsnip1, ok
[11:47] <yacc> gp, /sbin/fdisk -l /dev/sda should give you the partions on your disc.
[11:47] <ActionParsnip1> devD: please log a bug for plashy_0.3.13-5ubuntu1_i386.deb as there is a duplicate file
[11:47] <yacc> Ok, need to reboot.
[11:48] <devD> ok
[11:48] <HaskellLove> pozic i got jaunty
[11:48] <ActionParsnip1> devD: the lne:  trying to overwrite '/etc/lsb-base-logging.sh', which is also in package lsb-base 0:4.0-0ubuntu5    should also go in the bug, so it can be worked out
[11:49] <HaskellLove> pozic it did not work, maybe another command
[11:49] <ActionParsnip1> devD: the same file from the splashy deb will now go over the same file which is already on your system, dpkg just doesnt like overwriting stuff
[11:49] <ActionParsnip1> devD: so we use the force to say its ok to do so
[11:49] <ShapeShifter499> TeLLuS: ok
[11:49] <NickRiviera> yacc so when I manase my user, atannus, my main group is atannus, but when I manage group atannus, my user 'Andre Tannus' isn't ticked in that group....  that causes my brain to hurt.
[11:49] <devD> ActionParsnip1, ok , but I need to understand all carefully for filing bug report as I am a new user of GNU/Linux.
[11:50] <ActionParsnip1> devD: this is one of the weaknesss in package systems
[11:50] <devD> ActionParsnip1, ya
[11:50] <ActionParsnip1> !bug | devD
[11:50] <dare> hm, lame.. the nautilus-dbg package is broken
[11:50] <dare> (nautilus:6583): Eel-CRITICAL **: eel_preferences_get_boolean: assertion `preferences_is_initialized ()' failed
[11:50] <ActionParsnip1> dare: log a bug
[11:50] <dare> i'm too lazy :O
[11:50] <ActionParsnip1> dare: then it wont get fixed
[11:51] <HaskellLove> how to flush dns on jaunty?
[11:51] <allister> indus: still no change
[11:51] <ActionParsnip1> HaskellLove: sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:52] <ActionParsnip1> HaskellLove: if you use dnsmasq as a local dns, change networking to dnsmasq in that command to flush your local dns server
[11:53] <ActionParsnip1> devD: better now?
[11:53] <dare> ActionParsnip1: there's already 792 unfixed bugs.. doubt mine will be fixed in my lifetime =p
[11:53] <HaskellLove> If you are seeing this page, you are on the old server. Try clearing your browser cache and restarting your modem/router. Or you can open Command Prompt, and type in: ipconfig /flushdns Then retry. Thanks I still get this from the euler project page man <ActionParsnip1
[11:53] <devD> ActionParsnip1, ya its fine now. I am filing a bug too
[11:54] <ActionParsnip1> dare: theres a lot more than that, your report will verify or add a new bug. If everybody had your mentality, nothing would get fixed
[11:54] <ActionParsnip1> devD: cool :)
[11:54] <ActionParsnip1> HaskellLove: ipconfig is a windows command
[11:54] <HaskellLove> ActionParsnip1>	i know man what is ubuntu equal
[11:55] <batasan> HaskellLove: ifconfig
[11:55] <ActionParsnip1> HaskellLove: restart networking and all DNS' will be forgotten
[11:56] <||arifaX> where does network-manager store the connection configuration files?
[11:56] <HaskellLove> Restarting Name Service Cache Daemon nscd well i do this : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-clearflush-dns-cache-in-ubuntu.html and i get the restarting message above bla bla
[11:56] <ActionParsnip1> HaskellLove: you could add the openDNS or googleDNS servers to your config rather than using your ISPs
[11:56] <dare> ActionParsnip1: I cannot report bug as I am not a launchpad member :(
[11:57] <MaSSaSlaYeR> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Feisty_No-Fluff#Step%201:%20All%20BCM43xx%20-%20Install%20NDISWrapper%20and%20Blacklist%20Native%20Driver that didn't work what else can i try?
[11:57] <ActionParsnip1> dare: accounts are free
[11:57] <dare> ActionParsnip1: I don't want to be a launchpad member
[11:57] <ActionParsnip1> HaskellLove: ubuntugeek rocks
[11:57] <ActionParsnip1> dare: ok i'll log it
[11:57] <HaskellLove> ActionParsnip1>	how?
[11:57] <jpds> ||arifaX: ~/.gconf/system/networking
[11:58] <HaskellLove> ActionParsnip1 yeah but that does not work for me i still have same issue
[11:58] <indus> allister: hi
[11:58] <||arifaX> jpds: and if I installed network-manager in kde and configured a connection with it where is the file (I needed to look up som info)
[11:59] <jpds> ||arifaX: No idea.
[11:59] <MaSSaSlaYeR> Needing help with: BCM4312 (rev 01) Still not working
[11:59] <||arifaX> jpds: got it /root/.gconf/system/networking
[11:59] <ActionParsnip1> HaskellLove: then the dns is not causing the issue
[12:00] <||arifaX> jpds: thanks for your tip
[12:00] <dare> ActionParsnip1: I see it was reported and fixed here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/454234 but they forgot to patch the dbg package too
[12:00] <ActionParsnip1> devD: its already logged and confirmed a billion times: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/splashy/+bug/328089
[12:01] <HaskellLove> i get this, should i click ok ? but how i try TAB but nothing... http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/540/screenshoty.png ActionParsnip1
[12:01] <ActionParsnip1> HaskellLove: looks good, no errors
[12:01] <HaskellLove> ActionParsnip1>	that means it has flushed?
[12:03] <MaSSaSlaYeR> Needing help with: BCM4312 (rev 01) Still not working
[12:03] <jpds> !repeat | MaSSaSlaYeR
[12:03] <ActionParsnip1> HaskellLove: indeed
[12:03] <HaskellLove> ActionParsnip1>	so why do i have problems with eulerproject.net
[12:04] <MaSSaSlaYeR> did that
[12:04] <MaSSaSlaYeR> i posted topic
[12:04] <iceroot_> !broadcom | MaSSaSlaYeR
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> dare: either way its llogged which is good, you should add that you confirm the bug if its not marked as confirmed
[12:04] <isolat3dsh33p> Guys, I have an Acer laptop, there's an extra key on the laptop that does not work, 2 extra buttons actually, how can I enable them? Btw, my laptop is Acer Aspire 4535.
[12:04] <ActionParsnip1> !shortcut | isolat3dsh33p
[12:04] <abhi_> hello
[12:05] <abhi_> howdy?
[12:05] <iceroot_> abhi_: we can help you with an ubuntu-problem?
[12:05] <MaSSaSlaYeR> iceroot_  i installed it
[12:05] <abhi_> iceroot_:ya
[12:05] <MaSSaSlaYeR> still not working
[12:06] <ArasTa> Het guys
[12:06] <ArasTa> hey
[12:06] <iceroot_> !doesntwork | MaSSaSlaYeR
[12:06] <abhi_> i need a good download manager for ubuntu like IDM
[12:06] <ArasTa> i wanna know how to recompile the kernel of my ubuntu
[12:06] <iceroot_> abhi_: wget
[12:06] <ActionParsnip1> abhi_: gwget
[12:06] <dare> ActionParsnip1: ic, I shall challenge the status:  	 Triaged → Fix Released
[12:06] <ArasTa> so that i put the last version of kernel
[12:06] <abhi_> what about the speed?
[12:06] <isolat3dsh33p> ActionParsnip1: It's not multimedia keys, does the workaround still apply?
[12:06] <abhi_> i hav uget installed
[12:06] <ActionParsnip1> !kernel | ArasTa
[12:07] <devD> if I want to run several command should I separate them through a ;
[12:07] <iceroot_> abhi_: speed depending on your connection of course
[12:07] <ActionParsnip1> isolat3dsh33p: try it, quick fix rocks :)
[12:07] <abhi_> ya, i know
[12:07] <ArasTa> ActionParsnip1, u rock brotha :D
[12:07] <xover> How can make a xmodmap run on entering X?
[12:07] <iceroot_> devD: each after another? only if the command befire was running succesfull or run them as thread?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip1> devD: only if you don't mind if the previos command passed or not, if the next command needs the previous one to pass use '&&'
[12:07] <abhi_> what about gwget?
[12:08] <iceroot_> abhi_: try it
[12:08] <abhi_> is it better than uget?
[12:08] <iceroot_> !best | abhi_
[12:08] <ActionParsnip1> abhi_: there is no better, or best
[12:08] <sasasasasasasasa> testtest
[12:08] <iceroot_> abhi_: btw wget is the best
[12:08] <MaSSaSlaYeR> iceroot_:  it doesnt show in ifconfig i've lost my other interface with my wired network  and now i'm desperate...
[12:08] <abhi_> ya
[12:08] <ActionParsnip1> abhi_: try them to see what YOU like, then stick with the one YOU like
[12:08] <lilleman> I can no longer expand my folders in the list view... nothing happends when I click the little arrow. Anyone else with the same problem?
[12:08] <abhi_> but wget is CLI
[12:08] <abhi_> actually i want something GUI
[12:08] <ActionParsnip1> abhi_: gwget has a gnome frontend
[12:09] <iceroot_> abhi_: gwget
[12:09] <Aciid> xover: touch /home/$USER/.config/gnome/autostart/xmodmap && echo "xmodmap" > /home/$USER/.config/gnome/autostart/xmodmap
[12:09] <Aciid> try that
[12:09] <abhi_> ya
[12:09] <abhi_> i must try it
[12:09] <ActionParsnip1> abhi_: or there jdownloader
[12:09] <iceroot_> abhi_: sudo apt-get install gwget
[12:09] <zamba> what has happened to unionsfs in karmic?
[12:09] <abhi_> Jdownloader?
[12:09] <abhi_> is it depends on jre?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip1> abhi_: its another downloader app
[12:09] <ActionParsnip1> abhi_: sure does
[12:09] <isolat3dsh33p> ActionParsnip1: I download from the website, when I run the deb installer, it says there's a later version in the software channel. Does this means I can apt-get install it?
[12:09] <abhi_> hmm
[12:09] <theadmin> Hello. I'd like to use gpg to decrypt a file. But I want to put output in another file. Uh... will the ">" do it?
[12:09] <iceroot_> Aciid: using ~ instead of /home/$USER/   its shorter :)
[12:10] <devD> ActionParsnip1, ok understood
[12:10] <abhi_> which one is lightweight?
[12:10] <ActionParsnip1> abhi_: you are using an OS with LOTS of posibilities and choices
[12:10] <abhi_> i love ubuntu
[12:10] <ActionParsnip1> abhi_: wget is as light as it comes
[12:10] <iceroot_> theadmin: > is puttint the complete output to a file  stderr and stdout
[12:10] <MaSSaSlaYeR> iceroot_:  any tips ?
[12:10] <Aciid> iceroot_: that was just something to guide the user. I don't even recall does that work or was it the right path
[12:10] <ActionParsnip1> abhi_: so find out whats available and try a few rather than relying on strangers to tell you what to think
[12:10] <Aciid> but thats how u solve it
[12:10] <iceroot_> MaSSaSlaYeR: not enough details
[12:11] <xover> aciid i dont have a gnome directory
[12:11] <iceroot_> Aciid: ah ok, didnt see that
[12:11] <abhi_> i want to shift to ubuntu permanently
[12:11] <iceroot_> !ot | abhi_
[12:11] <ActionParsnip1> abhi_: cool
[12:11] <abhi_> okk
[12:11] <NickRiviera> yacc, u back!
[12:12] <_Nacho_> good morning guys
[12:12] <isolat3dsh33p> ActionParsnip1: Installed it using apt-get, thanks for the help dude :D
[12:12] <abhi_> another question, is there any alternative of adobe illustrator in ubuntu?
[12:12] <ShapeShifter499> g2g
[12:12] <frogzoo> gimp?
[12:12] <Aciid> xover: .xinitrc?
[12:12] <iceroot_> abhi_: gimp and inkscape
[12:13] <iceroot_> abhi_: inkscape is using svg
[12:13] <abhi_> i hav gimp, its like photoshop
[12:13] <erUSUL> abhi_: inkscape or xaralx
[12:13] <abhi_> i need something like illustrator
[12:14] <erUSUL> !info inkscape
[12:14] <iceroot_> abhi_: as i said, inkscape
[12:14] <erUSUL> !info xaralx
[12:14] <xover> Aciid: can i just create a startup script in ~/home/.config/autostart/
[12:14] <betlog> question: re: evdev and generic 5 button mice... theres an awful lot of info on this, mainly old, and mainly pertaining to MS intellimouse... is there a newish and relatively authorative link to a 'how to' that makes it easy to understand and do? Does this kind of tinker usually work regardless of what kind of mouse it is? .. should i even bother or is it generally a PITA?
[12:14] <Aciid> xover: yes
[12:14] <abhi_> iceroot_ & erusul: thnz
[12:14] <Aciid> xover: depending on your window manager
[12:14] <abhi_> i must try them both
[12:14] <Aciid> xover: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Startup_files this article lists all possibilities
[12:15] <xover> how do i determine window manager?
[12:15] <xover> im using compiz-fusion, is that the window manager?
[12:15] <erUSUL> xover: yes
[12:15] <isolat3dsh33p> ActionParsnip1: My laptop model is not in the list D:
[12:15] <abhi_> well
[12:15] <xover> ok, think that dir is correct, trying now, BRB
[12:16] <Aciid> xover: window manager, is said when u login
[12:16] <Aciid> its on the bottom
[12:16] <Aciid> on the dropdown
[12:16] <Aciid> on ubuntu
[12:16] <FloodBot2> Aciid: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:16] <ActionParsnip1> isolat3dsh33p: not sure then, have you websearched you laptop model in conjunction with ubuntu
[12:16] <abhi_> i hav an Acer aspire one laptop with intel Atom processor, can i use ubuntu in it?
[12:16] <iceroot_> Aciid: you dont mean window-manager, you mean desktop-environment for startup-scripts
[12:16] <Aciid> I use enter a s apunctuation I'm europian
[12:16] <zamba> where did unionfs go to in karmic?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip1> isolat3dsh33p: folks are really good at posting guides for how to setup linux on specific laptop models
[12:16] <abhi_> it has windows XP pre-installed
[12:16] <howlingmadhowie> abhi_: should work :)
[12:16] <xover> oh course, its gdm
[12:16] <Aciid> iceroot_: tell it to him, not me.
[12:17] <jve> Hi, Whats the difference between normal mod and recovery mode?
[12:17] <Aciid> xover: thats just the login manager =D
[12:17] <xover> so whats the window manger
[12:17] <Aciid> xover: in gdm, the bottom says which desktop enviroment u use for login
[12:17] <Aciid> by default
[12:17] <Aciid> its gnome
[12:17] <iceroot_> xover: important is if you are using kde, gnome, xfce4 for using startup not compiz or something else
[12:17] <abhi_> ubuntu-netbook-remix or main version?
[12:17] <erUSUL> jve: recovery mode boots into single mode + a curses menu
[12:17] <iceroot_> !startup | xover
[12:17] <ActionParsnip1> Aciid: ease up on the enter dude, its scrolling the channel and isnt fair to other users
[12:17] <abhi_> which one work best?
[12:17] <jve> ok thanks
[12:17] <iceroot_> !enter | abhi_
[12:17] <lao5> abhi_: i dont know
[12:17] <ActionParsnip1> abhi_: again, there is no best
[12:18] <Aciid> ActionParsnip1: ok sorry.
[12:18] <zamba> !unionfs
[12:18] <ActionParsnip1> abhi_: try both see which you like
[12:18] <abhi_> hmm
[12:18] <zamba> this worked perfectly fine in jaunty, but it has been removed in karmic...?
[12:18] <lao5> Aciid: thats ok
[12:18] <abhi_> Atom processor in slow
[12:18] <isolat3dsh33p> ActionParsnip1: Huwm, you mean google? Haha... How about installing the keytouch-editor?
[12:18] <abhi_> :(
[12:18] <ActionParsnip1> abhi_: with software there is NEVER a best, the differences in user requirements is huge so the best for one will be the worst for another
[12:18] <iceroot_> abhi_: again!!! dont use enter so much
[12:18] <ActionParsnip1> isolat3dsh33p: no i use websearch., I think telling people to "google"stuff is immature
[12:19] <abhi_> i'm sending msg. using enter
[12:19] <zamba> i don't get how they can do something like this..?
[12:19] <strange> hey guys i've followed: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing and now my internet connection doesnt work at all how do i disable the steps in there?
[12:19] <abhi_> what can i do?
[12:19] <isolat3dsh33p> ActionParsnip1: You have a point there, google has become the new yahoo.
[12:20] <iceroot_> abo_: write everything in one line and dont flood the channel with so many lines :)
[12:20] <ActionParsnip1> isolat3dsh33p: no, i just recognise that other engines exist and that not everyone uses google exclusively
[12:20] <MindSpark> hi, i have a problem, startup takes around 15 minutes
[12:20] <MindSpark> can someone tell me what to look for ?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip1> MindSpark: reboot then once you et to desktop run: dmesg | less
[12:20] <MASARUwota> MindSpark: did it use to be quicker?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip1> MindSpark: read the left colomn, if you get any large gaps in time. there is your issue
[12:21] <isolat3dsh33p> ActionParsnip1: Ok, :)
[12:21] <hyperstream> !flash
[12:22] <MASARUwota> anyone got a list of the !triggers for this channel :p
[12:22] <MASARUwota> ?
[12:22] <CShadowRun> !factoid
[12:22] <CShadowRun> MASARUwota: ^
[12:22] <sasasasasasasasa> :
[12:23] <grinkchill> info: http://wiki.buntu.com/UbuntuBots
[12:23] <MASARUwota> k. thx
[12:23] <MaSSaSlaYeR> iceroot_:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8507786#post8507786
[12:23] <iceroot_> MaSSaSlaYeR: sorry dont have an x-server here
[12:23] <MaSSaSlaYeR> ok
[12:24] <MaSSaSlaYeR> iceroot_:  can you receive pm's?
[12:24] <Huck> hi guys
[12:24] <iceroot_> MaSSaSlaYeR: yes but i dont like to, sorry, post the question to the channel in one line wih details
[12:24] <MindSpark> ok, looks like a hard disk issue :S
[12:24] <MaSSaSlaYeR> iceroot_:  it's the post i've made
[12:24] <MaSSaSlaYeR> ok then w8
[12:24] <ActionParsnip1> isolat3dsh33p: i get a tonne of my results from ask.com   jeeves is a great wingman
[12:25] <MASARUwota> Ecosia.org user here =)
[12:25] <MASARUwota> !test
[12:25] <MASARUwota> =)
[12:25] <Huck> 2 days ago my Skype start to crash when i open it, but i dont received none error, only like this: Skype --->open---> appears the window of Skype and crash....someone can help me?
[12:25] <MaSSaSlaYeR> iceroot_: I've tried to install the Wireless with Jockey-KDE , ndiswrapper, and try to run the drivers from the website still no good. There isn't any interfaces popping up, and i see nothing that has to do with wireless. not even Network Manager I'm running Ubuntu Server with the Xfce4 xfce4-goodies interface.
[12:26] <MindSpark> dmesg output http://pastebin.com/m20c97fe8
[12:26] <nic3> i get the error " greeter application appears to be crashing" does anyone know abt this?
[12:26] <MindSpark> does this mean my hd is busted ? or does it just need a fsck or do I need to tweak bios ?
[12:27] <jadakren> Huck, run skype from the terminal and copy the resulting errors that appear then paste them on pastebin, then give url here
[12:27] <jadakren> !pastebin | huck
[12:27] <isolat3dsh33p> ActionParsnip1: I'm just too used to google. *sighs*
[12:28] <jianzhen3> it's a where
[12:28] <scaivy> hello tout le monde quelqun a t'il un peu de temps a me consacré sur un probleme de permission de dossier svp
[12:28] <ardchoille> !fr | scaivy
[12:28] <jianzhen3> wrong place，sorry
[12:29] <grinkchill> LEAVE
[12:30] <ActionParsnip1> isolat3dsh33p: your call dude
[12:30] <isolat3dsh33p> ActionParsnip1: :-)
[12:32] <Huck> jadakren now i have not installed skype
[12:32] <Huck> i did sudo apt-get remove skype and now i cant install again
[12:32] <jadakren> Huck, one question : did you recently do some system updates from a sytem tray icon ?
[12:33] <DjAngo23> What is a good twitter client on ubuntu ?
[12:33] <Huck> yep
[12:33] <Huck> sure
[12:33] <MASARUwota> DjAngo23: http://www.sizlopedia.com/2008/05/03/twitter-clients-for-ubuntu-linux/
[12:33] <Huck> i update yesterday morning , but my problems start 2 days ago
[12:33] <Huck> before the update
[12:33] <remoteCTRL1> can anyone recommend me a gnome app that accesses the webcam (also offline) and that i can take snapshots with from the webcam?
[12:34] <jadakren> Huck, and have you restarted your machine since then ? ( i mean did you experience the errors with skype after updating system? )
[12:34] <DjAngo23> MASARUwota: thats from 2008 maybee ther are some new ones
[12:34] <Huck> yep i restart my machine
[12:34] <the_cyber_guy> i have intel 4500mhd graphics and when i enable compiz i get weird window borders pls help
[12:34] <Huck> http://paste.ubuntu.com/342663/
[12:35] <Huck> now if i do it SUDO APT GET-INSTALL SKYPE i get this error
[12:35] <jadakren> Huck, ok. you are aware that when a new kernel is installed that any errors experiences between then and the next system restart are most likely a result of the new kernel needing to re-introduce itself to the sytem (which happens at restart)
[12:35] <burg> hello. when i click on the network icon from the top panel, in 9.10, it sais on wired networks: device not managed. how can i make it to manage my wired networks too?
[12:35] <jadakren> Huck, sorry i can only read english unfortunatly
[12:36] <Huck> yep i know sorry too...
[12:36] <Huck> but if install again skype what can i do?
[12:37] <jadakren> Huck, did you use that command to install skype ?
[12:37] <Huck> yep, sudo apt-get install skype
[12:37] <ActionParsnip1> !skype | huck
[12:38] <jadakren> Huck, also (since i do not have suck a package by that name) i assume you are getting this package from a non-standard repository ?
[12:38] <jadakren> such*
[12:38] <Gwince|Work> Huck: also, the command would be sudo apt-get install skype
[12:39] <jadakren> Huck, once you have skype installed come back for some more help of getting a decent error log
[12:41] <Huck> i have installed medibuntu repository in 9.04 and yesterday i re-installed again
[12:41] <Huck> but skype still dont work for install
[12:41] <xaqubz> hi
[12:42] <Huck> i tried to download in skype.com the .deb package but when finish the installation skype start and crash
[12:42] <remoteCTRL1> does anybody know an app to record from webcam?
[12:42] <xaqubz> i have prob with emesene signing any body there to help me
[12:42] <jadakren> Huck, you have it installed yet?
[12:42] <Huck> nope
[12:43] <Huck> now i have remove all about skype
[12:43] <jadakren> Huck, can;t do much without a decent error report
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> remoteCTRL1:  cheese can do that i belive
[12:43] <Huck> ok
[12:43] <Huck> i tried to translate
[12:43] <remoteCTRL1> Dr_Willis: uhuh thanks :)
[12:43] <jadakren> Huck, it's ok i translated you previous pastebin with google .
[12:44] <Huck> a ok
[12:44] <jadakren> Huck, but you are still having the problem of a non-existant skype package yes ?
[12:44] <Huck> yep
[12:44] <remoteCTRL1> Dr_Willis: ok that one can take snapshots, happen to know one that can record also?
[12:44] <mattis> How can I view all versions available of a package in the package repository?
[12:45] <remoteCTRL1> Dr_Willis: oh me blind it can record, thanks!
[12:45] <jadakren> Huck, is it safe to assume you are using karmic (9.10) ?
[12:45] <kickar> hey what do i need to open psd images?
[12:45] <burg> nobody can help me>
[12:45] <burg> ?
[12:46] <jadakren> kickar, gimp is sufficent
[12:46] <Huck> safe mode?
[12:46] <jadakren> Huck, no i mean the version of ubuntu you are using ? it is 9.10 yes ?
[12:46] <kickar> jadakren,  nope .. Error loading PSD file: Unsupported color mode: CMYK
[12:46] <Huck> yes yes 9.10
[12:46] <brian24> HELLO
[12:47] <jadakren> kickar, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/223038/using-a-cmyk-psd-without-photoshop
[12:47] <brian24> QUIEN TIENE MANUAL SAMBA PARA UBUNTU
[12:47] <steveire> I have installed apache2. Where is the  Apache "httpd.conf" file?
[12:47] <howlingmadhowie> steveire: /etc/apache2
[12:47] <betlog> question: re: evdev and generic 5 button mice... theres an awful lot of info on this, mainly old, and mainly pertaining to MS intellimouse... is there a newish and relatively authorative link to a 'how to' that makes it easy to understand and do? Does this kind of tinker usually work regardless of what kind of mouse it is? .. should i even bother or is it generally a PITA?
[12:47] <steveire> thanks
[12:48] <roof> hi
[12:48] <roof> I deleted /dev/sda2 and recreated it using fdisk, this was my swap partition, which i had disabled prior to deleting, now my system wont boot, why is that?
[12:48] <howlingmadhowie> steveire: why do you need it btw? if you just want a lamp server, that should all work automatically
[12:48] <jadakren> Huck, can you open the text file : /etc/apt/sources.list and paste the single line here that mentions "medibuntu"
[12:48] <berrybarry> I was trying to get to my router page on firefox I entered ifconfig -a .... but none of the ip's work.... am I doing something wrong?
[12:49] <kickar> jadakren,  thanks man
[12:49] <Huck> ok sure what i must write in terminal? sudo gedit?
[12:49] <howlingmadhowie> berrybarry: ifconfig -a will tell you the ip addresses of your network interfaces, not the address of the router
[12:49] <boomernang> !sp | brian24
[12:49] <ctrlesc> ?
[12:49] <jadakren> Huck, gksudo gedti /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:50] <jadakren> gedit*
[12:50] <berrybarry> howlingmadhowie .... whats the command to get ip of router?
[12:50] <howlingmadhowie> berrybarry: you can find the router ip address by entering 'route'
[12:50] <berrybarry> ok thx
[12:50] <berrybarry> :)
[12:50] <Huck> ty so much jadakren
[12:51] <Psinetic> how can i kill an application with the process id?
[12:52] <roof> guys does grub install to MBR or does MBR look for active partition?
[12:52] <boomernang> !es | brian24
[12:52] <howlingmadhowie> berrybarry: or you can have a look in /etc/resolv.conf   the domain name server is kept there and most routers pretend to be domain name servers too
[12:52] <HaskellLove> how many times has ubuntu crashed on you and you had to format the pc and lose  files?
[12:52] <Huck> http://paste.ubuntu.com/342669/
[12:53] <howlingmadhowie> HaskellLove: i don't think ubuntu has ever done that to me :)
[12:53] <Sumpen> hey guys! Im about to install Ubuntu 9.1 on a ThinkPad with a Intel Core 2 Duo processor. When I switch to 64-bit version on Ubintu download page, the file name when downloading is: ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64. Does this mean its wrong version ( for AMD processors ) or is it just a confusing file name? Thx in advance.
[12:53] <howlingmadhowie> Sumpen: it's the right disk
[12:53] <llutz> Sumpen: amd64 is intel 64bit too
[12:53] <HaskellLove> howlingmadhowie so being a programmer and having like lots of files i should not worry of losing anything?
[12:54] <Sumpen> howlingmadhowie and llutz; thx guys!
[12:54] <steveire> howlingmadhowie: I'm using django, not php
[12:54] <howlingmadhowie> Sumpen: basically, AMD created the 64 bit extensions to the intel i86 architecture, so people often still refer to it as AMD64
[12:54] <llutz> Sumpen: just avoid loading ia64 ;)
[12:54] <alankila> amd64 is amd's revenge. In the past you used to put i386 into every system, including amd processors...
[12:55] <Sumpen> < googling ia64
[12:55] <howlingmadhowie> HaskellLove: well, there are always hardware faults and there could be bugs i don't know about
[12:55] <burg> hello. when i click on the network icon from the top panel, in 9.10, it sais on wired networks: device not managed. how can i make it to manage my wired networks too?
[12:55] <howlingmadhowie> HaskellLove: so best to back things up :)
[12:55] <HaskellLove> howlingmadhowie>	how?
[12:55] <HaskellLove> or you mean backup put on another disk
[12:55] <Huck> jadekran did u see my last pastebin?
[12:56] <howlingmadhowie> HaskellLove: that depends.  i use an external harddrive and sometimes a usbkey.  that's all i need
[12:56] <psicobra> hi all i am running 9.10 and have an ATI 4830 graphics card i run the restricted driver tool and it tells me it has the driver but it's not activated when i click activate nothing happens any help?
[12:56] <HaskellLove> howlingmadhowie>	ok bitch thanks
[12:56] <howlingmadhowie> HaskellLove: i used to use a streamer as well, but i don't have a desktop computer any longer
[12:56] <psicobra> ati!
[12:56] <psicobra> !ati
[12:57] <kryl99> free
[12:57] <howlingmadhowie> psicobra: when you press activate, the driver gets downloaded in the background. this can take some time.
[12:57] <Huck> !skype
[12:58] <psicobra> howlingmadhowie, so it doesnt pop up with somehting telling me it's downloading?
[12:58] <howlingmadhowie> psicobra: i don't think it does. that's a bug in this program, because it really should do.
[12:59] <psicobra> ok will leave it and see what happens thanks
[12:59] <howlingmadhowie> psicobra: so basically you just press activate and wait for a while :(
[12:59] <psicobra> k will do
[12:59] <howlingmadhowie> psicobra: if all goes well it will say "you need to restart to activate this driver". but that could take a number of minutes on a broadband connection
[12:59] <roof> i think my MBR is fucked, how do i fix this people?
[12:59] <psicobra> np thanks
[12:59] <MASARUwota> roof,reinstall grub
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> roof:  reinstall the boot loader/grub you need to use.
[13:00] <Dr_Willis> !grub
[13:00] <MASARUwota> !grub2
[13:00] <roof> the thing i dont understand is why deleting my swap partition would effect the boot process?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip1> roof: provided you use UUIDs it should be ok
[13:01] <roof> is the new partition i created now set as bootable, if so, how do i set the other partition as bootable
[13:01] <ActionParsnip1> roof: check the uUISs you are using
[13:01] <Dr_Willis> roof:  the order of the disks could have changed. and perhaps the uuid;s deoending on what you did
[13:01] <howlingmadhowie> roof: i don't think grub needs the disk to be set as bootable.
[13:02] <roof> i dont even get the grub boot loader coming ip i get "no bootable disk - please insert and reboot"
[13:02] <howlingmadhowie> roof: you can toggle the bootable flag by using fdisk, but make sure you have a good tutorial or guide before doing so
[13:02] <ActionParsnip1> roof: boot to liveCD and you can diagnose
[13:02] <howlingmadhowie> roof: oh, then you need to reinstall grub
[13:02] <roof> im in livecd now, but not sure whats happened
[13:02] <Goliath> do i need those?
[13:02] <Goliath> [15:02] <Goliath> orbit2-2.14.17-1   startup-notification-0.10-1
[13:02] <Goliath> [15:02] <Goliath> pyorbit-2.24.0-2
[13:03] <roof> is grub installed to MBR or is it chainloaded from primary boot loader?
[13:03] <howlingmadhowie> roof: it's chainloaded
[13:03] <Goliath> do i need any of those? http://pastebin.com/m732b477d
[13:03] <JuJuBee> Anybody know the syntax for using sed to replace \ with / in a file?  I cant get it right.
[13:04] <roof> so what is stored in the MBR?
[13:04] <ActionParsnip1> roof: run: sudo blkid    then read your fstab on your internal partition
[13:04] <howlingmadhowie> roof: barely more than a pointer to the existing grub.
[13:04] <roof> a flag that tells it where to find the 2nd bootloader - the foot flag
[13:04] <alankila> JuJuBee: a guess: sed 's/\\/\//g'
[13:04] <alankila> works here
[13:05] <roof> action, its not the FS thjat is that issue, I have no secondary bootloader at all.
[13:05] <JuJuBee> alankila: I was using " not ' thanks
[13:05] <roof> its as if there is no disk, it must be MBR
[13:05] <alankila> JuJuBee: " works too but then you need to \\ every \.
[13:05] <alankila> I guess...
[13:05] <ActionParsnip1> roof: ten use the liveCD to rewrite grub2
[13:05] <roof> howlingmadhowie, how do i check the flag?
[13:05] <JuJuBee> alankila: Ah, ok.
[13:06] <roof> i have ubuntu live running
[13:06] <howlingmadhowie> roof: sorry, i dunno :( pc hardware isn't my speciality :(
[13:06] <Goliath> ikonia: hi
[13:07] <llutz> JuJuBee: to make it less confusing, use different separator, sed 's=\\=/=g'
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> roof: you can run: sudo fdisk /dev/diskname    e.g.    /dev/sda    and make sure the partition is marked as bootable
[13:08] <qdb> Zeppelin, i am sorry, may be i had forgotten password
[13:08] <ActionParsnip1> roof: then install grub2 to the mbr, then check the UUIDs to make sure stab is mounting the right partition as /
[13:08] <Goliath> startup-notification what is this for?
[13:08] <roof> oh yeah i found the option
[13:08] <roof> that should fix is now, it was no longer set
[13:09] <ActionParsnip1> roof: if all that is in place then the system will boot
[13:09] <Goliath> startup-notification-0.10-1  is this for gnome?
[13:09] <roof> the rest of my system should be fine, i am wondering if recreating the partiiton fscked the MBR
[13:09] <indus> hello folks
[13:10] <roof> man its a mission getting the cd out of macbook pro
[13:10] <avishek> I'm using samba on ubuntu server 9.10 with an external hard disk mounted on /srv/samba/share. Is it possible to set passwords on the subdirectories?
[13:10] <Goliath> ActionParsnip1: startup-notification-0.10-1  do you know what is this for?
[13:10] <MaSSaSlaYeR> still needing help with wireless on HP 2133
[13:10] <indus> what could be the possible reasons for the proprietary driver not activating via hardware drivers
[13:11] <Huck> now i have installed skype and i wrote in the terminal: $ skype
[13:11] <Huck> Aborted
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> Goliath: no idea
[13:11] <Goliath> o ok
[13:11] <indus> !REPEAT
[13:12] <indus> what could be the possible reasons for the proprietary driver not activating via hardware drivers
[13:12] <brijith> Huck: did you installed the deb file of skype
[13:12] <Goliath> !RTFM
[13:12] <Goliath> stupid bot ;D
[13:12] <Huck> brijith: yes
[13:13] <Huck> i have download 5 min ago from skype,com
[13:13] <indus> Huck: which deb on whaat system
[13:13] <brijith> Huck:Which distro u are using 9.10
[13:13] <indus> Huck: 64 bit?
[13:13] <brijith> Huck:I am using 32 bit and its works fine here
[13:14] <Huck> 64 BIT
[13:14] <Huck> 9.10 64 bit
[13:15] <Bam_Bam> Hi, I'm trying to use SSH to bridge a virtualbox is there any way I can do this with only two IPs on the remote network?
[13:15] <Dr_Willis> Bam_Bam:  what do you mean to 'bridge' ?
[13:16] <Bam_Bam> Well, I need a tunnel to the remote network that the virtualbox can use I think
[13:16] <Bam_Bam> I don't really know what I want so I'm having a hard time explaining
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> You could set up virtioalbox to have a normal 'lan' ip as if it was a real machine. and do a tunnle to/from it as if it was a real box on the network.
[13:17] <Dr_Willis> ie: my home lan   Main machine 192.168.1.100   virtualbox on Main machine  192.169.1.101
[13:18] <Huck> well what can i do it?
[13:18] <Bam_Bam> Dr_Willis, I have a linode VPS that I would like to tunnel the virtualbox traffic through
[13:18] <tobiash> hi there
[13:18] <orelob> Could someone enlighten me on the Ubuntu Enterprise Cloud. Have I understood it correctly that the correct way to install it is to have one Master server and several nodes and that all of these together build up as one large Virtual Machine server - or shoud I rather user several VMWare servers to install the Master and Slave nodes on?
[13:18] <brijith> Huck:Sorry I don't know what went wrong in ur 64 BIT
[13:19] <Dr_Willis> No idea on how VPS's work. ive never really used one.   Id imagine you could just set vbox to use the vps stuff as you would a real machine.
[13:19] <amsterdamharu> Huck: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=432295 (temporary out of service :)
[13:19] <amsterdamharu> See no deb for ubuntu 9.1
[13:19] <amsterdamharu> http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/choose/
[13:20] <h4f> what happened to forum ?
[13:20] <Bam_Bam> Dr_Willis, do you think this is what I'm looking for? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN
[13:20] <h4f> ubuntuforums DIES !!
[13:21] <tobiash> oh gawd oh man
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> Bam_Bam:  ive never done vpn over ssh.  so no idea.  Cant hurt to read it I guess. :)
[13:21] <amsterdamharu> Huck, what did you install?
[13:21] <Bam_Bam> Well, I read through it I just don't know how to make it work
[13:21] <Bam_Bam> but thanks
[13:21] <Milos_SD> Hi
[13:21] <Pici> h4f: They're down for planned maintenance.
[13:22] <Milos_SD> I have a problem with ipw2200 driver and firmware for it. I use Ubuntu 9.10 and when ipw2200 module is loaded, it uses 100% of CPU, and spams syslog with: "Firmware error detected. Reseting"
[13:22] <h4f> Pici: thank. didn't know
[13:22] <h4f> Pici: but they might display nice message instead
[13:24] <indus> ActionParsnip1: hi
[13:24] <ActionParsnip1> indus: howdy
[13:24] <indus> ActionParsnip1: all good
[13:25] <indus> ActionParsnip1: have you seen dmesg | tail in karmic, something about cpu1 attaching null schedule domain what sthat about
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> indus: yeah as good as can be
[13:25] <ActionParsnip1> indus: no idea man, never used dual core
[13:27] <wvd> So, I executed these commands yesterday: http://bpaste.net/show/1430/ - and reinstalled ndiswrapper, however I cannot execute 'modprobe ndiswrapper' anymore: 'FATAL: no module ndiswrapper or something' << i think this is because it's removedd from the kernel. Anyone has ideas to fix it?
[13:28] <ActionParsnip1> wvd: use ndisgtk instead, it does a lot for you
[13:28] <tobiash> can I make ubuntu 8.10 fast on a 384mb ram computer with 1,200+ old processor?
[13:28] <wvd> ActionParsnip1: It doesn't do 'modprobe ndiswrapper'
[13:29] <Milos_SD> can anyone help me please?
[13:29] <zubin71> hello :)
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> wvd: it will configure the system to load it at boot
[13:29] <ActionParsnip1> wvd: sudo apt-get --reinstall install ndisgtk     will let it install everything you need
[13:29] <wishkeep> Hi everyboyd!
[13:30] <wishkeep> one question
[13:30] <ActionParsnip1> !ask | Milos
[13:30] <alankila> tobiash: if you can consider using lxde instead of gnome, you'll save a lot of memory. 9.10 contains a light version called "lubuntu", you could try that.
[13:30] <wvd> ActionParsnip1: I don't have internet, I did 'Reinstall package' by double clicking on the .deb I got on my CD.
[13:30] <indus> that smiley doesnt gowell with the factoid
[13:30] <llutz> wvd: why did you rm that module? get it back from kernel-package
[13:30] <psicobra> ok i waited ages the activate button does nothing
[13:30] <wishkeep> how i make the file "resolv.conf" with my personal configuration?
[13:30] <tobiash> alankila ye lxde works decent :) But my bro didn't like it much because of the look
[13:31] <zubin71> i need a bash one-liner which can display lines from a set of files which have the word "test" and display the filenames beside it.
[13:31] <ActionParsnip1> wvd: use a wired connection
[13:31] <tobiash> alankila it's his worthless computer, but he still uses that pile of crap
[13:31] <llutz> zubin71: man egrep
[13:31] <wvd> llutz: How do I get it back from the kernel package?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip1> wishkeep: gksudo gedit/etc/resolv.conf
[13:31] <ActionParsnip1> wishkeep: gksudo gedit /etc/resolv.conf
[13:31] <wishkeep> ActionParsnip1, thanks!
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> wishkeep: 2nd one (missed a space)
[13:32] <llutz> wvd: download kernel-packe, extract the modules
[13:32] <alankila> tobiash: you could also try something called compcache and gnome with 9.10. And get rid of firefox, it's slow & bloated, chromium or epiphany-webkit is much faster...
[13:32] <wvd> llutz: should I automatically reinstall ndiswrapper?
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> wishkeep: if you use network manager or any of that muck, it will overwrite the file when it starts
[13:32] <llutz> wvd: ndiswrapper won't install the kernel-module (afaik)
[13:32] <ActionParsnip1> wishkeep: so add the DNS servers to the config of the app, rather than the file
[13:32] <wishkeep> yes!
[13:33] <llutz> wvd: modules are in linux-image-$(uname -r)
[13:33] <wishkeep> on app?
[13:33] <zubin71> llutz : thankx :)
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> wishkeep: do you use network manager or wicd or someting like that?
[13:33] <wvd> llutz: but how come ndiswrapper was there before?
[13:33] <wishkeep> yes NM
[13:33] <llutz> wvd: because it is installed together with your kernel
[13:33] <ActionParsnip1> wishkeep: ok, so when that app loads, it will destroy the settings and put in its own
[13:34] <wishkeep> yes, i know
[13:34] <wvd> llutz: sec, ndiswrapper isn't automatically @ your system, right?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> wishkeep: so you  need to put the settings you want into network manager
[13:34] <tobiash> alankila Wolfenstein Enemy Territory is loading like forever
[13:34] <tobiash> alankila even on lxde
[13:34] <llutz> wvd: the kernel-module called ndiswrapper.ko is, just the ndiswrapper-utils aren't
[13:34] <wishkeep> how i do? on preferences? or editing my network?
[13:34] <indus> tobiash: www.google.com/chrome
[13:34] <wishkeep> and add on DSN space?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> wishkeep: i dont use network manager
[13:34] <wishkeep> jejeje
[13:34] <wvd> llutz: so, ndiswrapper.ko got there when I installed linux?
[13:34] <ActionParsnip1> wishkeep: click round, it will be there
[13:35] <alankila> tobiash: well, I guess you should forget about gaming on the system. It would be worth it to examine whether that is due to lack of cpu, lack of memory, or extremely slow disks, though. But I'm not too surprised...
[13:35] <wishkeep> ActionParsnip1: jeje, thanxs a lot!!!
[13:35] <llutz> wvd: yes, and that's what you deleted with your last line of the bpaste (stupid action)
[13:35] <wishkeep> ActionParsnip1: one more thing, jeje
[13:35] <tobiash> alankila he's got old ide 40gb drive 384mb ram and old ass duron 1200+
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> indus: tobiash: https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa
[13:36] <llutz> wvd: and to get it back, you'll need the kernel-package of your kernel
[13:36] <Milos_SD> I have a problem with ipw2200 driver and firmware for it. I use Ubuntu 9.10 and when ipw2200 module is loaded, it uses 100% of CPU, and spams syslog with: "Firmware error detected. Reseting" Does someone know how can I fix this problem and make wifi work?
[13:36] <alankila> tobiash: just run top in one window while the game loads and see if the cpu is pegged at 100 % and if swap usage is increasing, that gets a bit of notion about which part is the bottleneck, probably. If the drive is very slow, or badly configured somehow, that could also matter.
[13:36] <indus> ActionParsnip1: thats a ppa, not advisable always
[13:36] <wvd> llutz: well, I'm trying to configure my wifi for ~15h, so I kind of did everything they said (as I'm pretty new to linux)
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> Milos_SD: you need firmware for your wifi card
[13:36] <null_kuhl> hello, i have just installed fedora 11 and i had ubuntu karmic installed on a different partition ( i think they use different grub versions) can any one tell me how to add ubuntu to my current grub list to be able to boot to karmic again ?
[13:36] <wvd> llutz: it seems that I cannot find it at the packages.ubuntu.com
[13:36] <MaSSaSlaYeR> Why doesn't Broadcom STA Wireless Driver DOESN't want to Activate!!!
[13:36] <wvd> llutz: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=kernel&searchon=names&suite=karmic&section=all
[13:36] <ActionParsnip1> indus: it means its installable from software sources
[13:37] <wishkeep> ActionParsnip1: if I change de permissions of resolve.conf file to only read.....i will fix it?
[13:37] <Milos_SD> ActionParsnip1, i know that, I have linux-firmware package installed
[13:37] <llutz> wvd: it's linux-image-$(uname -r)
[13:37] <alankila> tobiash: one can test the drive performance with something like bonnie++ to establish if it can read/write at reasonable rate like 30-40 MB/s or if it goes 5 MB/s because of some awful misconfiguration.
[13:37] <wvd> llutz: with apt-get?
[13:37] <Milos_SD> ActionParsnip1, and there is ipw2200-*.fw files in /lib/firmware
[13:37] <indus> ActionParsnip1: yes but its still not official google chrome
[13:37] <llutz> wvd: yes
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> wishkeep: no it will always be overwritten afaik, you can markit as read only maybe
[13:37] <indus> its chromium in development
[13:37] <wvd> llutz: i can't use apt-get atm, no connection at ubuntu.
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> indus: its the same code and the bugs from chomium go into chrom
[13:37] <tobiash> alankila last time my bro was copying something to a pendrive with speed less than one mb/s
[13:37] <ActionParsnip1> e
[13:37] <null_kuhl> hello, i have just installed fedora 11 and i had ubuntu karmic installed on a different partition ( i think they use different grub versions) can any one tell me how to add ubuntu to my current grub list to be able to boot to karmic again ?
[13:38] <tobiash> in my computer it was like 40mb/s
[13:38] <ActionParsnip1> indus: chrome is just a less cutting edge chromium
[13:38] <wishkeep> ActionParsnip1: ok thanxs againXD
[13:38] <FlaPer87> hi, is it possible to start a daemon on startup after another daemon has been started?
[13:38] <indus> ActionParsnip1: no,bugs from chromium stay there
[13:38] <FlaPer87> I mean like a dependency?
[13:38] <alankila> tobiash: that's probably due to slow USB ports. Old computers do not have usb 2.0, only 1.1 at best, and that is 1 MB/s.
[13:38] <Kopachris> null_kuhl: search ubuntuforums.org for "Grub 2 guide"
[13:38] <indus> chrome is a fixed beta release unlike the chromium project
[13:38] <tobiash> alankila ye that is prolly it
[13:38] <Pici> Kopachris, null_kuhl: The forums are currently down for maintenance.
[13:38] <Kopachris> Oh.
[13:38] <null_kuhl> Kopachris: but fedora 11 doesnt use grub 2 ,
[13:39] <Kopachris> It doesn't?
[13:39] <indus> i just prefer google's products
[13:39] <Kopachris> Hmm...
[13:39] <null_kuhl> Kopachris: i dont think so
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> null_kuhl:  in theory if you let ubuntu handle the bootloader with grub2 it could see/auto add fedora to its list.
[13:39] <Milos_SD> but they are somehow diffrent then other firmwares there... icon is different (nautilus says it is a TGA image) :S
[13:39] <indus> not projects :)
[13:39] <CrusaderAD> Hey guys, ubuntu forums.org go down?
[13:39] <tobiash> indus is that chrome that light? or you just advertise?
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> CrusaderAD:  for maintaince - yes.
[13:39] <alankila> tobiash: it's possible to upgrade to usb 2.0 via pci expansion cards, but that's likely just waste of money. It is time to upgrade.
[13:39] <null_kuhl> Dr_Willis: so i just mark the ubuntu partition as the active one ?
[13:39] <indus> tobiash: its light indeed , try and see
[13:39] <CrusaderAD> ok, thanks doc
[13:39] <ActionParsnip1> indus: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome says: In September 2008, Google released the entire source code of Chrome, including its V8 JavaScript engine, as an open sourceproject entitled Chromium
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> indus: same code
[13:40] <tobiash> indus gonna give it a shot
[13:40] <indus> ActionParsnip1: that doesnt make chrome into chromium
[13:40] <ActionParsnip1> indus: just more bleeding edge
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> null_kuhl:  Not sure. I havent bothered to try different disrtos with grub2 yet.   If  i want to test different disrtos i just use virtualbox.
[13:40] <tobiash> indus on my own computer I would never use anything other than Opera :P But bro's comp is just worthless
[13:40] <indus> ActionParsnip1: i take that code and make a browser called dousedfox ,so its not chrome then
[13:40] <Dr_Willis> null_kuhl:  or if each OS is on its own hard drive. You could put  the bootloader for each os on its own HD then use the bios menus to pick the hd to boot.
[13:40] <indus> ActionParsnip1: but i get your point
[13:41] <ActionParsnip1> indus: cool
[13:41] <indus> tobiash: dont expect good flash performance though, its still crappy
[13:41] <indus> chrome does borrow some code from mozilla
[13:41] <tobiash> indus flash is worthless in linux world
[13:41] <wvd> Where can I download the kernel-package of Ubuntu? I need to reinstall it, but can't find it at packages.ubuntu.com (NO, I can't use apt-get)
[13:41] <indus> tobiash: well, was great upto 9
[13:42] <CrusaderAD> Has anyone here heard or seen that wubi bug with the new grub in 9.10?
[13:42] <indus> iam wondering if i can find some old flash 8 version
[13:42] <tobiash> indus even my comp doesn't satifsy me with fullscreen performance not being as smooth as it should be
[13:42] <indus> many sites still support it due to crappy flash 10
[13:42] <tobiash> indus adobe sucks
[13:42] <indus> nvm off topic now !
[13:42] <ActionParsnip1> indus: flash works better than firefox under chromium here
[13:43] <vegombrei> i need some help .. Type 'multiverse' is not known on line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:43] <indus> ActionParsnip1: yes better but still not good like older 9
[13:43] <indus> what really went wrong with 10? i still dont get it
[13:43] <ActionParsnip1> indus: very true :( although 10.1 looks promising
[13:43] <vegombrei> what does one do when that happens|?
[13:43] <indus> its their worst release ever
[13:43] <indus> works great on windows though :)
[13:44] <Dr_Willis> vegombrei:  sounds like a typo in uyour sources.list
[13:44] <indus> vegombrei: paste that list
[13:44] <clathrate> anyone got mapi working properly in evolution?  i got it somehow connected and it knows about my folders & mail but doesn't display them...  actually scratch that... it's somehow that my mouse clicks don't work properly on the >/V dropdown control in the folder list!!!  how do I fix that?  another thing i noticed is that I can't click the buttons in the evolution preferences dialog, it's some sort of focus weirdness
[13:44] <tobiash> lets hope 10.1 will fix the performance
[13:44] <wvd> Where can I download the kernel-package of Ubuntu 9.10? I need to reinstall it, but can't find it at packages.ubuntu.com (NO, I can't use apt-get)
[13:44] <aliquerer> need help in watching streamed video (veetle) could any1 help?
[13:49] <killerblack> wvd: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.32/
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> aliquerer:  the site demands you diownload and insstall veetle-0.9.15-linux-install.sh
[13:52] <aliquerer> Dr_Willis: Yes, i have done that
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> aliquerer:  i did so.. and  theng asks for me to ok a EULA for some reason then  saya -> Installing to /home/willis/.mozilla/plugins and /home/willis/.veetle_vlc
[13:52] <Dr_Willis>  aliquerer  and then the site still fails to work
[13:52] <aliquerer> Dr_Willis: dont understand really ut i think youve got it right
[13:52] <prabha1989> y some of the flash sites dont work well with ubuntu?
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> aliquerer:  the site dosent work.
[13:52] <aliquerer> Dr_Willis: ok thats pity
[13:52] <Dr_Willis> prabha1989:  because those sites  often do goofy things.. and of course adobe/flash under linux is often goofy also
[13:52] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[13:52] <aliquerer> coudl anyone one help me installing Sopcast then?
[13:52] <perpetualrabbit> Can someone help me with grub2 please?
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> aliquerer:  post a message to their forums... ask them how you Uninstall that plugin also. :)
[13:53] <MASARUwota> perpetualrabbit: please state your problem clearly and in 1 sentence.
[13:53] <wvd> Kopachris: Any idea?
[13:53] <perpetualrabbit> MASARUwota, I want to install grub2 onto a second disk, which I then want to put into another computer.
[13:53] <Dr_Willis> aliquerer:  they got a linxu forum - says the plugin dont work properly with 64bit linux.  one user said it worked with FLOCK for him in 64bit
[13:54] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[13:54] <prabha1989> Dr_Willis: k thanks for the info
[13:54] <aliquerer> Dr_Willis: ok im not using 64 bits however is it same to me?
[13:54] <MASARUwota> perpetualrabbit: yes? just install it and put it nito the computer then :p
[13:54] <Kopachris> wvd: not a clue.  lemme search a bit more
[13:54] <stanley_robertso> i need a small help with respect to Ubuntu. I have installed ubuntu 9.10 desktop version on VM. now iam not able to connect to internet. Can somebody help me regarding this
[13:54] <Shay27> Hello , does its possible to use tar command to extract (tar archive) without the folders structure ? so all files will be extracted into 1 folder ?
[13:54] <miha> is there a lib in repositories:   Couldn't find a new-enough version of 'libtoolize', please install one!
[13:54] <Dr_Willis> aliquerer:  no idea. check their forums is all i can suggest at this time.
[13:55] <wvd> Kopachris: I could reinstall my whole ubuntu system.. if needed.
[13:55] <aliquerer> Dr_Willis: ok thank you
[13:55] <MASARUwota> Shay27: no, that would need the tar to be editted before extraction which doesnt make sense
[13:55] <perpetualrabbit> MASARUwota, well, it does not work of course. I did the following: /usr/sbin/grub-setup --force --directory=/root/target/part_root/boot/grub --device-map=/root/target/part_root/boot/grub/device.map /dev/sdh
[13:55] <will__> is there a way that i can copy a working installation (on a failing hard drive) directly to another hard drive so that i dont have to reinstall?
[13:55] <Kopachris> wvd: I don't you'll have to do that, but you might have to compile the kernel--something I've never done.
[13:56] <MaSSaSlaYeR> Why doesn't Broadcom STA Wireless Driver DOESN't want to Activate!!!??
[13:56] <Shay27> MASARUwota: what i mean is that i have tar archive containing files and folders , i would like to extract the files to 1 folder without the folders structure from the archive ?
[13:56] <grkblood> anyone know where i can get the old school "flying toasters" screensaver for ubuntu?
[13:56] <indus> MaSSaSlaYeR: why , what happens when you click activate
[13:56] <Dr_Willis> Shay27:  the file manager 'mc' can view/extract teh contents of a archive as if it was a directory
[13:56] <perpetualrabbit> MASARUwota, but when I put the disk in the other machine, it says "GRUB" and then nothing happens
[13:56] <MASARUwota> Shay27: the folders are part of the tar.
[13:56] <ActionParsnip1> MaSSaSlaYeR: use: gksudo jockey-gtk    to run it
[13:57] <stanley_robertso> can somebody help me ?
[13:57] <MASARUwota> perpetualrabbit: does it work fine on your first pc? with ONLY that HD?
[13:57] <aliquerer> Could anyone help me installing Sopcast?
[13:57] <HaskellLove> which is better for programmers, ubuntu or debian?
[13:57] <MASARUwota> !ask|stanley_robertso
[13:57] <MaSSaSlaYeR> ActionParsnip1:  still not activating
[13:57] <igh> good morning
[13:57] <stanley_robertso> I already asked ubottu, but none replied :(
[13:57] <MASARUwota> HaskellLove: debian is quicker, but you need to configure stuff more manually
[13:57] <dto> anyone know if there is a ppa for karmic and the new wacom bamboo pen tablets?
[13:57] <indus> stanley_robertso: yes
[13:57] <warriorforgod> stanley_robertso: What is your issue?
[13:57] <stanley_robertso> i need a small help with respect to Ubuntu. I have installed ubuntu 9.10 desktop version on VM. now iam not able to connect to internet. Can somebody help me regarding this
[13:58] <stanley_robertso> VM --> Virtual Machine
[13:58] <mota_> help iptables string
[13:58] <HaskellLove> MASARUwota> more manually what do you mean?
[13:58] <igh> install ppp
[13:58] <ActionParsnip1> MASARUwota: depends on config
[13:58] <MaSSaSlaYeR> ActionParsnip1:  any other ideas?
[13:58] <perpetualrabbit> MASARUwota, there is an installation on the first disk, which I want to clone onto that second drive, /dev/sdh. The other drive numbers (b,c,d,e,f,g) are cardreader slots btw.
[13:58] <MASARUwota> HaskellLove: less out of the box GUI bloat
[13:58] <stanley_robertso> any help in this regards, would be of great help
[13:58] <warriorforgod> stanley_robertso: Are you using NAT or bridged connection with the VM?  Also are you using vmware, virtualbox, etc?
[13:58] <HaskellLove> MASARUwota> i guess i should script ruby perl in debian to make scripts and use the command line all the time?
[13:59] <stanley_robertso> Sun Virtual Box
[13:59] <warriorforgod> stanley_robertso: Are you using NAT or bridged for the network connection?
[13:59] <stanley_robertso> and iam on ADSL
[13:59] <MASARUwota> HaskellLove: no
[13:59] <BluesKaj> howdy folks
[13:59] <ActionParsnip1> MaSSaSlaYeR: what's the output of: sudo lshw -C network | grep STA
[13:59] <warriorforgod> stanley_robertso: Also are you connected directly to the modem or through a router?
[13:59] <stanley_robertso> its a router [ ADSL Router ]
[14:00] <perpetualrabbit> MASARUwota, so I partition and then clone the disk with tar and such. The first disk is fine, that linux runs ok. The second disk need some kind of grub-setup command which I do not seem to get right and info on the web is dreadful :-(
[14:00] <stanley_robertso> basically iam connecting to the modem directky [ which is an ADSL Router ]
[14:00] <HaskellLove> MASARUwota> well what do you mean by manually, talk to me ...
[14:00] <stanley_robertso> s/directky/directly
[14:00] <MaSSaSlaYeR> ActionParsnip1:  there just comes: PCI (sysfs)
[14:00] <ActionParsnip1> MASARUwota: my buntu install scrapes just over 2Gb ad is fast as lightning
[14:00] <warriorforgod> stanley_robertso: Do you have the vms network connection NAT'd or bridged?
[14:00] <MASARUwota> perpetualrabbit: just put in the disk on its own, install grub, test if its working, and place it into another computer.
[14:00] <ActionParsnip1> MaSSaSlaYeR: wait a sec
[14:00] <MaSSaSlaYeR> ActionParsnip1:  ok
[14:00] <Dr_Willis> stanley_robertso:  in what virtual machine did you use?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip1> MaSSaSlaYeR: whats it say now?
[14:00] <stanley_robertso> how to find out  ? warriorforgod
[14:00] <MaSSaSlaYeR> ActionParsnip1:  there just comes: PCI (sysfs)
[14:01] <berrybarry> could I get help starting web based vnc?
[14:01] <stanley_robertso> Dr_Willis, i didnot get your question, sorry
[14:01] <warriorforgod> stanley_robertso: It is on the network configuration page for the vm in virtualbox console
[14:01] <ActionParsnip1> MaSSaSlaYeR: ok try: sudo lshw -C network | grep -i product
[14:01] <MASARUwota> ActionParsnip1: trust me, debian uses less out of the box drivers and runs less during startup. thus, its quicker =)
[14:01] <Dr_Willis> stanley_robertso:  'in a vm' theres several VM's you could be using.. vmware? virtualbox? some other?
[14:01] <stanley_robertso> its a NAT warriorforgod
[14:01] <MASARUwota> ActionParsnip1: however if ubuntu is really quick already you shouldnt bother, i guess
[14:02] <berrybarry> any software available for web based vnc?
[14:02] <stanley_robertso> Dr_Willis, its virtual box [ Sun Virtual Box ]
[14:02] <perpetualrabbit> MASARUwota, I am attemting to write a script to do this over the network, with pxe. I need a routine that can do this on a disk that I choose. So I need to know how grub2 does it.
[14:02] <warriorforgod> stanley_robertso: Try changing it to bridged and reboot the vm.
[14:02] <MaSSaSlaYeR> ActionParsnip1: Product: BCM4312 802.11b/g & Product NetXtreme BCM5788 Gigabit Ethernet
[14:02] <ska> I had to remove a /lib/modules/linuxXXX by hand because we ran out of space. NOw apt is angry and says it can't fully remove the missing stuff. How do I fix that?
[14:02] <Dr_Willis> stanley_robertso:   You have read the vitualbox docs? they got a decent pdf manual at their homepage.  Ive rarely had networking issues with it. You may just need to set the proper config for the vm
[14:02] <ActionParsnip1> MASARUwota: true, use minimal ubuntu and install lxde, nice and minimal ad slick, no need for a gui logon either ;)
[14:02] <stanley_robertso> warriorforgod, i will try it now
[14:02] <ActionParsnip1> !broadcom
[14:02] <ska> No I couldn't use apt to remove it because it had no space left on device.
[14:03] <ActionParsnip1> !bcm43
[14:03] <kinja-sheep> Does UPnP AV MediaServer exists?  The one that is capable of streaming correct format?
[14:03] <perpetualrabbit> MASARUwota, for now I just use a disk that I connect directly, but I need a routine that does it for me from the pxeserver, say from a script run from an initrd or and nfsroot
[14:03] <stanley_robertso> Dr_Willis,  the problem is happening when i connect to VM from my home.. from office, everything works fine
[14:03] <perpetualrabbit> MASARUwota, do you see my problem?
[14:03] <MaSSaSlaYeR> ActionParsnip1: i tried to install it manually doesn't work
[14:03] <vegombrei> Dr_Willis: http://pastebin.com/m66931440
[14:04] <stanley_robertso> warriorforgod, it failed at the startup itself
[14:04] <stanley_robertso> when i modified it to Bridged, VM failed to start
[14:04] <ActionParsnip1> MaSSaSlaYeR: could try: http://nxadm.wordpress.com/2008/05/21/broadcom-wifi-bcm4312-speedup-on-ubuntu-804-on-a-hp-nc6320-laptop/
[14:04] <stanley_robertso> it came up as "VERR_SUPDRV_COMPONENT_NOT_FOUND" ERROR
[14:05] <ActionParsnip1> MaSSaSlaYeR: or : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> stanley_robertso:  you can set up virtualbox ti have its own ip on the lan like any other pc on the lan could have. then set the router to port forward to that ip.
[14:05] <MaSSaSlaYeR> ActionParsnip1: did that that
[14:05] <Dr_Willis> stanley_robertso:  otjherwise by default its on its own private lan ip range
[14:05] <MaSSaSlaYeR> ActionParsnip1:  the second one
[14:06] <stanley_robertso> Dr_Willis, ok, i would go through the documentation and set it up properly. Thanks for the info
[14:06] <berrybarry> I want to publish my computer online could someone walk me through it?
[14:06] <MaSSaSlaYeR> ActionParsnip1:  when i boot it states : bcmwl(5.10.91.9+bdcom).... Fail!
[14:06] <terrorink> :\
[14:06] <ActionParsnip1> MaSSaSlaYeR: bah, i'd give the script a go. i avoid broadcom personally
[14:06] <jcrawford> is there any free to use software for ubuntu that will allow me to make a video of my screens? screen capture/recording?
[14:07] <AlexanderSupertr> berrybarry: that's a loaded statement
[14:07] <MaSSaSlaYeR> ActionParsnip1:  it's a laptop i just bought to learn ubuntu ... :$
[14:07] <AlexanderSupertr> berrybarry: :)
[14:07] <jcrawford> I need to make a small video demonstrating something I made on the web
[14:07] <igh> what do you all think of XBMC
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> stanley_robertso:  its a setting on the viortuialbox configs - but i forget which one. I always got to reread the docs
[14:07] <berrybarry> alexandersupertr do you have experince on doing it?
[14:07] <tarzeau> can i unchrome the linux google chrome?
[14:07] <stanley_robertso> cool, will do the same :)
[14:08] <berrybarry> alexandersupertr I have portforwarding :)
[14:08] <AlexanderSupertr> berrybarry: you mean do you want to publish some documents on internet? or u want to access you compuetr from internet?
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> igh:  i dont care for it. use it if you like. theres also the 'moovida' program thats similer.
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> !info moovida
[14:08] <berrybarry> alexandersupertr acess computer meaning show everything ha :)
[14:08] <berrybarry> alexandersupertr ha not ssh
[14:08] <igh> moovida isnt stable, it wont start up, i've uninstalled adn re-installed
[14:08] <igh> it was working at first
[14:08] <ActionParsnip1> tarzeau: define "unchrom@
[14:09] <ActionParsnip1> tarzeau: "unchrome"
[14:09] <AlexanderSupertr> berrybarry: you can use sftp in nautilus from another computer
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> igh:  ive had dozens of issues with xbmc here. not tried moovida lately. I just use vlc normally
[14:09] <tarzeau> ActionParsnip1: removing the uniq id
[14:09] <tarzeau> ActionParsnip1: that the browser reports back to google
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> tarzeau:  clarify your clarification. :)
[14:09] <igh> ok ty Dr
[14:09] <tarzeau> ActionParsnip1: http://www.techyard.net/remove-client-id-from-chrome-for-privacy/
[14:09] <terrorink> ......
[14:09] <tarzeau> Dr_Willis: i think i figured already myself, thanks
[14:10] <igh> im new to unbuntu, i think this is great really stable OS
[14:10] <berrybarry> alexandersupertr I was thinking about getting a free static ip using no-ip and thought their was a tool or software avaiable for a web based vnc
[14:10] <terrorink> its ok igh
[14:10] <ActionParsnip1> tarzeau: what you got to hide
[14:10] <prabha1989> help
[14:10] <terrorink> but ext4 is unstable as all hell
[14:10] <tarzeau> ActionParsnip1: nothing
[14:10] <ActionParsnip1> tarzeau: then why do you want to do it
[14:10] <tarzeau> ActionParsnip1: my surfing habits are of nobodys business
[14:11] <terrorink> lol
[14:11] <ActionParsnip1> tarzeau: your ISP keeps logs of all you look at, so yes it is
[14:11] <terrorink> so use proxys u silly willy
[14:11] <terrorink> use an encrypted proxy :D
[14:11] <terrorink> ssl :)
[14:11] <tarzeau> ActionParsnip1: not forever
[14:11] <perpetualrabbit> MASARUwota, How could I put the non-booting disk on its own? I cannot get into linux there; and besides How do I install grub2 in the first place...
[14:11] <tarzeau> ActionParsnip1: google cookies don't expire
[14:11] <AlexanderSupertr> berrybarry: you know the way then. there are web based vnc viewrs.
[14:11] <tarzeau> terrorink: you didn't get it, even if you use a proxy the browser reports stuff back to google
[14:12] <terrorink> if u use a ssl proxy and surf to sites the os cant decrypt the traffic and it just looks like u were looking at 1 site forever and then if u wanna go into detail u can even proxy chain so it makes it 100x's harder
[14:12] <ActionParsnip1> tarzeau: i wasnt aware of any of this calling home and nor do I care. Not something i'm afraid of
[14:12] <MASARUwota> perpetualrabbit: you need a *nix-like system to install it on.
[14:12] <berrybarry> AlexanderSupertr I am clueless I only see windows webbased software :(
[14:12] <berrybarry> s-code.com is windows based
[14:13]  * ActionParsnip1 hands tarzeau a new tinfoil hat
[14:13] <ActionParsnip1> tarzeau: how do you know someone hasnt changed their ID to yours?
[14:13] <luck> hello! Anybody here using Qt4.6 - QtMultimedia module? Any special configuration to use it with pulse-audio in Ubuntu 9.10?
[14:13] <tarzeau> ActionParsnip1: i don't
[14:14] <ActionParsnip1> tarzeau: i guess you'll have to sweat about that instead
[14:14] <terrorink> lol
[14:14] <terrorink> tarzeau read what i sent u
[14:14] <tarzeau> terrorink: i did
[14:15] <terrorink> solves ur problem no ?
[14:15] <Pici> !offtopic
[14:15] <Pici> Can we please stay on topic folks?
[14:15] <perpetualrabbit> MASARUwota, well, I have one ubuntu running fine. I connect the disk to a free sata cable, the system hotplugs it. I use fdisk to partition it, then make filesystems, mount them and tar the system over to it. Then I want to put grub onto the second disk, which always worked fine with grub 1, but now with grub 2 no end of trouble. I need to know howto operate grub2 in command line mode
[14:15] <ActionParsnip1> is their a #internetparanoia channel ?
[14:15] <ska> http://pastebin.com/m2d6d7596  I can't get around this .. please help
[14:16] <perpetualrabbit> MASARUwota, step 2 is to do the same over PXE, with over 60 workstations. I am not going to install them all by hand.
[14:16] <aleksander_m> ska: ubuntu 8.04?
[14:16] <tarzeau> terrorink, ActionParsnip1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Chrome#Usage_tracking
[14:17] <ActionParsnip1> ska: sudo mkdir /lib/modules/2.6.24-23-generic; sudo touch /lib/modules/2.6.24-23-generic/modules.dep.temp
[14:17] <ActionParsnip1> tarzeau: i dont think its a bad thing at all
[14:17] <ActionParsnip1> tarzeau: i'd send them my browser cahce hourly if they wanted it
[14:17] <Pici> tarzeau, terrorink, ActionParsnip1:Lets stay on topic please.  If you want to talk about whether google is tracking you, plese use #ubuntu-offtopic or elsewhere.
[14:18] <Bam_Bam> Is there some way I can send all traffic on an interface through a SOCKs proxy?
[14:19] <Bam_Bam> Or create a virtual interface that uses that proxy as a gateway?
[14:19] <ska> ActionParsnip1: thanks. that worked..
[14:19] <terrorink> o dude of course they are they have to after the new law was passed
[14:19] <ActionParsnip1> ska: sweet, the post uninstall script was failing due to some missing files
[14:19] <ActionParsnip1> ska: we just humoured it
[14:19] <terrorink> all encrypted traffic is to be treated as child porn
[14:20] <ska> yea.. I thought about it, but it seemed too easy to work..
[14:20] <mystx> Hello. Is there a photo management program that can import, sort into year/month/day folders, and backup to two or more places, and then show all the photos in a picasa or similar way?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip1> ska: the easiest answer is usually the right one
[14:21] <terrorink> what ever u do dont use tor
[14:21] <terrorink> stupidest thing u can ever do
[14:21] <ActionParsnip1> terrorink: or firefox
[14:21] <terrorink> lol
[14:21] <Pici> !offtopic
[14:21] <terrorink> pici ?
[14:22] <terrorink> i am helping them
[14:22] <terrorink> a security question is still a support question
[14:22] <terrorink> and i happen to be a security expert
[14:22] <Pici> terrorink: I don't see what this has to do with Ubuntu support.
[14:22] <terrorink> securty effects ubuntu does it not
[14:22] <terrorink> ?
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> Tor isent een in the ubuntu repos any more - last i checked.
[14:23] <ActionParsnip1> !info tor
[14:23] <terrorink> lol
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> there were tools for it. and so forth. bht the actual package - no. I recall it lost its maintainer a few releases ago.
[14:23] <terrorink> did u try installing backtrack tools on ubuntu
[14:23] <terrorink> :)
[14:24] <airtonix> !u
[14:24] <llutz> get tor from torüroject.org, they have a repo
[14:24] <Dr_Willis> Backtrack support is on its own channel.
[14:24] <llutz> torproject*
[14:24] <Geert> Does somebody know weither SCST will be implemented in the Ubuntu kernel?
[14:24] <Pici> There are other places to discuss such things. ##security for one.  #ubuntu is for Ubuntu OS support only.
[14:24] <remoteCTRL1> can anybody please tell me where to click in the netbox remix to add an application to the panel???
[14:24] <terrorink> so your saying security is not important for ubuntu ?
[14:25] <terrorink> even though its part of the os
[14:25] <vegombrei> Dr_Willis: http://pastebin.com/m66931440
[14:26] <Diverdude> I have seen that there are kind of GUI plugins that reveal info about CPU usage and memory usage etc. How can i get that?
[14:27] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTRL1: its in alacarte
[14:27] <airtonix> Diverdude, system > admin > system monitor
[14:27] <Diverdude> airtonix, nono, i want to have it on the desktop as displayed all the time in a nice layout
[14:28] <Dr_Willis> vegombrei:  and whats that for?
[14:29] <airtonix> Diverdude, like [ http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/34533/screenshot_004_E3vbf9.png ] >?
[14:29] <airtonix> Diverdude, or like : http://www.screenlets.org/images/1/1b/Cpu.jpg
[14:30] <airtonix> Diverdude, or maybe perhaps you were thinking of : http://www.ubuntugeek.com/images/conky/7.png
[14:31] <ActionParsnip1> airtonix: i'd advise conky its badass
[14:32]  * Dr_Willis advises reading the Conky homepage/docs/faq  also. :)
[14:32] <airtonix> ActionParsnip1, it is not me who is looking for such things
[14:33] <airtonix> ActionParsnip1, and although i agree with you that conky is great it has some severe shortcomings
[14:33] <ActionParsnip1> Diverdude: look into conky, its pretty dope and VERY configurable
[14:33] <ActionParsnip1> airtonix: all apps do
[14:34] <Dr_Willis> My conky configs --> http://drop.io/dr_willis
[14:35] <MASARUwota> conky is awesome =)
[14:35] <MASARUwota> http://drop.io/dr_willis
[14:36] <MASARUwota> sorry cygwin is acting up
[14:36] <Dr_Willis> :)
[14:37] <Dr_Willis> I use xming these days instead of cygwin.
[14:37] <ActionParsnip1> Dr_Willis: me too, its nice
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> Id rather see Ubuntu come with  xming then wubi :P
[14:38] <MASARUwota> Dr_Willis: im running the irssi windows executable, which is cygwin+putty
[14:38] <airtonix> yes : http://dl.dropbox.com/u/180039/screenshots/2009-07-15-173127_1920x1080_conky.png
[14:38] <remoteCTRL1> what was the name of this little app that allows you to rename/relable partitions?
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> MASARUwota:  heh. :) i did find xchat for windows. (yes it was buggy)
[14:39] <airtonix> remoteCTRL, not gpartd ?
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> remoteCTRL1:  gparted can do that.. and tune2fs for ext2/3/4
[14:39] <ActionParsnip1> !label | remoteCTRL1
[14:39] <miha> how to 'force' removal of broken package?
[14:39] <MASARUwota> Dr_Willis: i prefer irssi. dunno why
[14:39] <miha> or at least stop it from preventing installing other packages
[14:39] <remoteCTRL1> airtonix:  Dr_Willis for some reason i cant relabel the win part in gparted, no idea why...
[14:39] <remoteCTRL1> ActionParsnip1: thanks dude:)
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> MASARUwota:  ive switched over to WeeChat
[14:40] <airtonix> remoteCTRL, make sure it is not mounted
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> remoteCTRL1:  you need to install the ntfsprogs support package I think
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> !info ntfsprogs
[14:40] <MASARUwota> Dr_Willis: weechat-curses =) using that at home aswell
[14:40] <MASARUwota> couldnt find a windows binary of that tho :p
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> MASARUwota:  yea  - i dont touch irssi any more
[14:40] <ActionParsnip1> miha: sudo dpkg --force-all -r packagename     may work
[14:41] <Dr_Willis> MASARUwota:  i ssh to my linxu box and use it that way
[14:41] <remoteCTRL1> Dr_Willis: yep, that was it, thanks man:)
[14:41] <ActionParsnip1> miha: I suggest you get to a squared system will all satisfied deps, then gracefully remove it
[14:41] <miha> ActionParsnip1 nope
[14:41] <MASARUwota> Dr_Willis: damn, i should try that aswell
[14:41] <piciisstupid> *yawn
[14:41] <ActionParsnip1> miha: can you give me a little more feedback, i'm not psychic
[14:41] <UukGoblin> hi
[14:41] <miha> dpkg: error processing boinc-client (--configure):  subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing:  boinc-client
[14:42] <ActionParsnip1> miha: why not be useful and pastebin the output?
[14:42] <UukGoblin> what happened to crypt_r in hardy?
[14:42] <miha> ActionParsnip1 and this before: ERROR: /var/lib/boinc is not owned by boinc.               [FAILED] invoke-rc.d: initscript boinc-client, action "start" failed.
[14:42] <miha> ActionParsnip1 now i'd like to remove that and build svn version :D
[14:42] <UukGoblin> I #define _XOPEN_SOURCE and include both unistd.h and crypt.h, but crypt_r and struct crypt_data are not defined for some reason
[14:42] <UukGoblin> and it works in debian sid
[14:42] <miha> trying to install svn over messed it up in first place
[14:43] <ActionParsnip1> miha: sudo chown boinc /var/lib/boinc
[14:43] <ActionParsnip1> miha: then try again
[14:43] <matias> ss
[14:44] <salvo78> salve a tutti
[14:44] <miha> ActionParsnip1 http://pastebin.com/m53d69abc the whole thing
[14:44] <ActionParsnip1> miha: and after the chown?
[14:45] <miha> same
[14:45] <remoteCTRL1> Dr_Willis: ok i relabeled it now but it still apears as 83gb filesystem in nautilus, whats wrong? (cant rename it there)
[14:45] <miha> that was after :D
[14:45] <UukGoblin> I can see crypt(3) manpage in karmic mentions crypt_r, unlike one in hardy...
[14:46] <krishmish> can someone help me with configuring squid to use username authentication?
[14:46] <miha> ActionParsnip1 damn i always manage to crash something... after trying screen magnifier to see if my aunt can use gnome... i have virtual deskop twice the width
[14:46] <miha> :D
[14:46] <miha> ati desktop utility solves that for the session
[14:46] <miha> but it cant save
[14:46] <miha> for next time :D
[14:46] <ActionParsnip1> miha: run it with gksudo
[14:46] <miha> oh ok
[14:46] <vegombrei> i need some help .. Type 'multiverse' is not known on line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:47] <miha> ActionParsnip1 well i'm not complete noob but still didnt think of that :D
[14:47] <krishmish> can someone help me with configuring squid to use username authentication?
[14:47] <miha> ActionParsnip1 i guess it should be default to ask :D
[14:47] <piciisstupid> damn action your just all over this channel good job :)
[14:47] <vegombrei> http://pastebin.com/m66931440
[14:47] <ActionParsnip1> miha: lots of things should something but dont, you can edit your menus or reate aliases to commands
[14:47] <salvo78> mi dite per favore come si scarica la lista
[14:48] <genii> !it | salvo78
[14:48] <miha> ActionParsnip1 well i just say here in hope some of the more canonical folks would notice
[14:48] <miha> :D
[14:48] <salvo78> !it
[14:48] <genii> salvo78: #ubuntu-it
[14:48] <Pici> salvo78: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)
[14:48] <miha> !si
[14:48] <planktum_> anyone knows of a way to automagically regenerate the xfe4 applications menu?
[14:48] <planktum_> xfce4
[14:49] <remoteCTRL1> ActionParsnip1: Dr_Willis: ok this is becoming really weird: as i cannot rename it by rightclicking it i did gksudo nautilus and there it is as a matter of fact windows while in user's nautlilus it is still 83gb filesystem... whats going on?:D
[14:49] <vegombrei> i need to fix my repository .. it wont open synaptic
[14:49] <genii> planktum_: Try #xubuntu channel
[14:49] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTRL1: what are you renaming?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: can you give a pastebin of /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:50] <remoteCTRL1> ActionParsnip1: the windows partition that i mounted to /media/windows
[14:50] <miha> ActionParsnip1 could i somehow just delete it from installed db?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: what happens when you try to open the app?
[14:50] <miha> i can take care of manually installing then :D
[14:51] <ActionParsnip1> miha: there is but i am unsure of the method and I don't agree with it but sometimes its the only way to go
[14:51] <vegombrei> indus: paste which list ?? thats all it says
[14:51] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTRL1: if its got a block device mounted to it then it will not be renamable
[14:51] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: it says ...E: Type 'multiverse' is not known on line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list ....E: The list of sources could not be read.
[14:52] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: run: gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   and paste the content to http://pastebin.com
[14:52] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: when the page changes, copy the address in the address bar and paste it in here
[14:52] <remoteCTRL1> ActionParsnip1: i am aware of that thats why i unmounted it but i still cant...
[14:53] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: http://pastebin.com/m7f919e78
[14:53] <nine_> I want to write a script that automaticly merge to pdf-files. a.pdf is a multiple side pdf, b.pdf is single. inte his order "a.pdf side 1", "b.pdf", "a.pdf side 2", "b.pdf", "a.pdf side 3", "b.pdf" etc... Any ideas where to start. pdftk? joinpdf? and how to write the script?
[14:53] <jiffe98> is there anyway to make a hardlink to a directory?
[14:53] <garrettk> I'm trying up upgrade python2.6-minimal, but the install script is attempting to create the directory /usr/local/lib/python2.6 - unfortunately, this is an NFS mount, read-only, so that is failing.  I can't unmount it, because it's in use.  How can I get this to complete?
[14:53] <grawity> jiffe98: No. Why do you need that?
[14:53] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: ok close gedit then run: gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:53] <salvo78> si possono scaricare film
[14:54] <jiffe98> so I can hardlink directories into people's home directories for ftp purposes without symlinking
[14:54] <matelot> \join #gouloum
[14:54] <salvo78> qualcuno mi puo dire se si possono scaricare film
[14:54] <grawity> jiffe98: There is one way to do something similar -- mount --bind /source /target
[14:54] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: scroll to the bottom and you will see their is 'multiverse universe' on the last line, put the cursor on the start of that line and press backspace
[14:54] <llutz> jiffe98: use bind-mount
[14:54] <DJones> !it | salvo78
[14:55] <grawity> jiffe98: It won't be permanent though, so put it into fstab.
[14:55] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. can you hard link directories? ive never noticed.
[14:55] <salvo78> !it
[14:55] <remoteCTRL1> ActionParsnip1: ok now i am pi**ed off, booting windwos says a disk read error occurred, press ctrl+alt+del to restart
[14:55] <remoteCTRL1> you gotta be kiddn me
[14:55] <DJones> salvo78: No, thats off topic for this channel
[14:55] <grawity> Dr_Willis: You cannot. Bind mounts aren't exactly the same thing
[14:55] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: http://pastebin.com/m5c77b09d
[14:56] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: the 'multiverse universe' will now be on the same line as the line above
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  i dident think so. I rarely use hardlinks - so wasent sure
[14:56] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTRL1: why is the mountpoint name so important?
[14:56] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: ?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: yes, its the same file as last time
[14:56] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: read my instructiojn
[14:57] <oskari> quit
[14:57] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: http://pastebin.com/m3a568f07
[14:57] <krishmish> can someone help me with configuring squid to use username authentication?
[14:57] <salvo78> scusate mi dite xfavore se si puo scaricare film da qua
[14:57] <jiffe98> that was what I was looking for, thanks!
[14:58] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: look at the last line in this: http://pastebin.com/m5b26698c
[14:58] <remoteCTRL1> ActionParsnip1: well it is basically not so important as the fact that i obviously just broke the windows installation by relabeling the disk but basically it is because it should be (as my boss always says) professor proof, i dunno if they can abstract 83gb filesystem to windows partition
[14:58] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: yes i see multiverse universe ...
[14:58] <piciisstupid> action do u not have a job ;)
[14:58] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: see how the last line of mine looks like the last 2 of yours combined, thats what you need to do
[14:59] <DJones> salvo78: No, questo non è un canale per il download
[14:59] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: oh
[14:59] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: how do i do this ?? gedit ??
[15:00] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: thats why its screwing up, you have an erroneous carridge return, so the extra line is borking synaptic
[15:00] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: yes thats why I told you to launch gedit with gksudo, so you can now fix it
[15:01] <c0p3rn1c> I expected that the following command would mount the dir with root permissions, but it's still my default user: sudo mkdir /media/USBHDD;sudo chown root:root /media/USBHDD;sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/USBHDD -o uid=root,gid=root
[15:01] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: its fixed ... one more question .. all this happened when i was trying to enhance my gui trying to install compiz or beryl or something .. could you help me with that?>
[15:01] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTRL1: ive not used label, its not important to me how a partition is labelled so I am unsure how it modifys the partition to stored the name
[15:02] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: have you installed video drivers for 3D accelleration?
[15:03] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: i just installed my video card today .. was clueless .. but as soon as i booted it downloaded drivers and installed new hardware
[15:03] <remoteCTRL1> ActionParsnip1: basically i seriously dont care also but this is a presentation netbook whcih erverybody is supposed to be able to handle within the minute and yes, it seems that relabeling win partitions changes something that freakin grub gant handle anymore... or win itself i dunno
[15:03] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: do i have to download 3d acceleration seperately?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip1> remoteCTRL1: you know as much as me dude
[15:04] <remoteCTRL1> ActionParsnip1: but i'll give update-grub a shot...
[15:04] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: can you give the output of: lspci | grep -i vga
[15:04] <miha> can ubuntu be reinstalled without wiping /
[15:04] <remoteCTRL1> ActionParsnip1: which isn't very much currently :D but ya know that i always appretiate you helping me, man:)
[15:04] <Wipster> hey all, my touchpad has stopped working on my laptop, I am using 9.10 and it was working up to a few days ago, now I have to put a USB mouse in, sometimes it turns the pad on then but not this time...
[15:05] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV790 [Radeon HD 4800 Series]
[15:05] <piciisstupid> god i hate ati
[15:06] <alberto> hi, is anyone here using a hpmini 2133 with ubuntu? thanks
[15:06] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: if the driver has been offered then you can try: sudo apt-get install compizconfig-settings-manager
[15:06] <MASARUwota> piciisstupid: try talking to the guys on #ati. they are all like "THEN ITS YOUR COMPUTER THATS AT FAULT" whenever you ask them why ati has such unstable linux drivers ;/
[15:06] <alberto> I would like to know is if it posible to use 3d, this is really slow
[15:06] <ActionParsnip1> vegombrei: when its done press ALT+F2   and run: compiz --replace
[15:06] <alberto> thanks
[15:06] <Sliss> ok I dd-ed a disk with an ubuntu 9.10 os on it to an other machine in an lvm partition. I try to start it via kvm but I am thrown into a busybox console telling me the disk id isn' t available... how to solve this?
[15:07] <aaron11> Hi
[15:07] <aaron11> I want to know why a terminal opens up in my desk 3 when ever I boot
[15:08] <aaron11> I want to know why a terminal opens up in my desk 3 when ever I boot
[15:09] <garrettk> I'm trying up upgrade python2.6-minimal, but the install script is attempting to create the directory /usr/local/lib/python2.6 - unfortunately, this is an NFS mount, read-only, so that is failing.  I can't unmount it, because it's in use.  How can I get this to complete?
[15:09] <aaron11> Hello!
[15:09] <Sliss> I can enter the boot and alter the kernel to a correct UUID but how
[15:09] <aaron11> ok
[15:09] <aaron11> did anyone see any question asked by me
[15:09] <vegombrei> ActionParsnip1: done .. it did somekinda screen refresh and its back
[15:10] <aaron11> I want to know why a terminal opens up in my desk 2 when ever I boot
[15:10] <jelly-bean1> after my karmic upgrade on ubuntu server, ssh is SUPER slow to connect to that machine. it takes 3-5 minutes and sometimes doesn't get in so u have to retry. when u get into ssh its snappy after that. any ideas what it could be?
[15:10] <innu> hey, Is there a program for cutting (pages) pdf files using command line?
[15:11] <Walex> jelly-bean1: usually some DNS issue, like the name of the system not being in '/etc/hosts'.
[15:11] <grndslm> slam
[15:11] <llutz> innu: look at pdfjam
[15:11] <innu> llutz, ok, thanks
[15:12] <piciisstupid> aaron11 do u have it set up to do that
[15:12] <newbie123> how can a build an optimized .deb package?
[15:12] <aaron11> piciisstupid: No.
[15:13] <jelly-bean1> Walex: the hostname is in /etc/hosts pointed to 127.0.0.1
[15:13] <aaron11> piciisstupid: Weird eh
[15:13] <ronny> hi
[15:13] <newbie123> i just downloaded sources, via apt-get source
[15:13] <newbie123> and right now, i would like to set compiler FLAGS n make opts.
[15:13] <ronny> is there ant command to uninstall all packages that arent part of the default install
[15:13] <newbie123> someone?
[15:13] <ronny> *any
[15:13] <Dunas> Having a problem where 9.10 will not wake from hibernate, although sleep seems to be ok. Ubuntu 9.10, Intel E5200 @2.5GHz, ATI HD4830, 4GB DDR2 generic brand RAM, both keyboard and monitor are USB. It's always a hard lock, although the power remains running to the keyboard (backlight stays on) and I can see the wifi indicator on the USB adapter flashing.
[15:14] <piciisstupid> yea it is weird
[15:15] <kekers> some  body help me ... iwant to install vga driver ati radeon hd 4200 ?? how
[15:15] <Walex> Dunas: thanks for letting us kn ow.
[15:15] <durre> I have ubuntu 7.04. is there a way of using apt-get install... without having to upgrade to 8.10, 9.04 etc?
[15:15] <aaron11>  !help | kekale
[15:15] <durre> like, some secret repository that I dont know of
[15:15] <Aciid> what is the best dvd burner for karmic?
[15:15] <Dunas> Walex, I was kind of hoping someone had had the same problem and could at least point me to a temporary fix. :X
[15:15] <epinky> !best | Aciid
[15:16] <Aciid> dont start with that epinky
[15:16] <Aciid> I want the most feature filled dvd burner
[15:16] <Aciid> ==best
[15:16] <ikonia> epinky: try some - see what you like
[15:16] <BluesKaj> !best
[15:16] <ikonia> sorry
[15:16] <ikonia> Aciid: try some - see what you like, easy to install/uninstall
[15:16] <MaSSaSlaYeR> Jockey installs bcmwl but it gives an eroor howw do i fix it ?? it says on boot : bvmwl(5.10.91.9+bdcom)... FAIL!
[15:17] <epinky> !ping
[15:17] <Aciid> I have brasero right now, but it doens't allow that many modifications to burn settings
[15:17] <Walex> Dunas: because ghybernation is a problem-free feature that is guaranteed to work in nearly all cases, and when it does not work there is always an easy fix? :-)
[15:17] <ikonia> Aciid: try some of the others
[15:17] <shutdownit> jelly-bean1: Try to disable "GSSAPIAuthentication no" in sshd_config
[15:18] <terrorink> eerm sorry about that i just accidently closed irc
[15:18] <epinky> Aciid: k3b is an alternative
[15:18] <shutdownit> jelly-bean1: I mean change "GSSAPIAAuthentication yes " to "GSSAPIAuthentication no" in sshd_config
[15:18] <c0p3rn1c> pff I'm having trouble mounting my usb disk with root:root rights, I need it to make a chroot jail there :s
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> !burner | Aciid
[15:18] <c0p3rn1c> I expected that the following command would mount the dir with root permissions, but it's still my default user: sudo mkdir /media/USBHDD;sudo chown root:root /media/USBHDD;sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/USBHDD -o uid=root,gid=root
[15:19] <jelly-bean1> shutdownit: k just tried that too and restarted sshd but no improvement
[15:19] <MaSSaSlaYeR> Jockey installs bcmwl but it gives an error how do i fix it ?? it says on boot : bvmwl(5.10.91.9+bdcom)... FAIL!
[15:19] <llutz> c0p3rn1c: what filesystem?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> !burner
[15:19] <c0p3rn1c> llutz, ntfs
[15:20] <isolat3dsh33p> Is there any difference between XFree86 in 9.04 and 9.10?
[15:20] <ikonia> isolat3dsh33p: slightly later version
[15:20] <Aciid> I think it's brasero for me now
[15:20] <Aciid> thanks thou =)
[15:20] <Aciid> #ubuntu great community
[15:21] <isolat3dsh33p> ikonia: I'm trying to edit the configuration file, I'm not sure where is it located, can't find it in /etc/X11/
[15:21] <c0p3rn1c> isolat3dsh33p, X works better in 9.10 for me
[15:21] <kermit> why do flash videos in firefox not have sound in 9.10? they did in 9.04
[15:21] <lng> hi! why can't I see php5-geoip?
[15:21] <ikonia> isolat3dsh33p: there is no config file by default, it's dynamic, although you can create one
[15:21] <ikonia> lng: what do you mean can't see
[15:22] <c0p3rn1c> isolat3dsh33p, I have less problems with dual screen functionality
[15:22] <jelly-bean1> ssh -vvv reveals it is spending a long time trying different ssh keys
[15:22] <jelly-bean1> debug2: we sent a publickey packet, wait for reply
[15:23] <isolat3dsh33p> c0p3rn1c: Yeah, indeed it is. Btw, I'm not facing problem for dual screen functionality, haven't tested it yet though. I'm trying to configure my keyboard. If I could
[15:23] <nine_> Can I make a for-loop in a shellscript that will count up a variable with 0001 0002 0003 0004 and so on?
[15:23] <isolat3dsh33p> ikonia: Thanks for the info dude :)
[15:23] <grawity> nine_: For what exact reason? There are several ways.
[15:23] <raphael__> Hi all !
[15:23] <jelly-bean1> debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
[15:24] <jelly-bean1> why would sshd hang trying to   process keys during connect?
[15:24] <nine_> grawity: I want to merge files with pdftk that I already have burst. pdftk will split th pages to pg_0001.pdf, pdf_0002.pdf and so on-.I can't find out how to change that...
[15:24] <jelly-bean1> while its accepting an ssh connection the system becomes unresponsive to other ssh connections until the connection is either closed or the user gets in
[15:25] <terrorink> weird
[15:25] <c3l> I need to make a gif image (a moving one) what tool should I use?
[15:25] <grawity> nine_: Try 'echo pg_{0001..0200}.pdf' and see if that's what you need.
[15:25] <terrorink> what kinda connection u got jelly
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> c3l: gimp can do it
[15:25] <c3l> ActionParsnip, it can? ;O
[15:26] <nine_> grawity:: May work. I'll see. thnx
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> c3l: http://www.gimp.org/tutorials/Simple_Animations/
[15:26] <c3l> ActionParsnip, many thanks
[15:26] <epinky> c3l: or gifsicle
[15:27] <c3l> okay
[15:27] <MaSSaSlaYeR> Why doesn't Jockey want to activate My Drivers!!! :@
[15:27] <fograven> I need help finding Phatch, says its installed in the Ubuntu software center, but it is nowhere to be found on the main menu.
[15:28] <erUSUL> fograven: alt + f2 --> fatch
[15:28] <kinja-sheep> MaSSaSlaYeR: "aptitude search phatch"
[15:29] <iceroot_> fograven: sudo apt-get install phatch
[15:29] <kinja-sheep> MaSSaSlaYeR: Keep looking. It is somewhere, maybe under Accessories or Graphics.
[15:29] <nic3> can anyone pls see this if you know..http://paste.ubuntu.com/342766/
[15:29] <nic3> http://paste.ubuntu.com/342766/
[15:29] <MaSSaSlaYeR> what has jockey to do with phatch kinja-sheep
[15:29] <kinja-sheep> MaSSaSlaYeR: Whoops. Wrong user.
[15:30] <gentakojima> join #fedora
[15:30] <gentakojima> sorry
[15:30] <iceroot_> nic3: Is it in use by another program? Did you configure it properly with setserial? Please read the FAQ at http://open.nit.ca/wiki/?WvDial
[15:30] <nic3> i dont know how to configur it
[15:30] <MaSSaSlaYeR> Why doesn't Jockey want to activate My Drivers!!! :@ HP 2133 | Ubuntu Server 9.10 | Xfce4
[15:30] <ska> I get a split screen problem when my resolution is 1600x1200 (display resolution) but I can't drop the refresh rate down to anything below 76hz
[15:30] <iceroot_> nic3: reading the FAQ?
[15:30] <ddo> city.org
[15:31] <nic3> no about setserial.within modem, which one do i need ot read
[15:31] <ska> Should I go and edit my xorg.conf?
[15:31] <djyox> Hello everyone, I have a quick question. I was running a sudo apt-get install and my terminal was closed by someone, and now it appears that the program is still being downloaded and installed OR things are now totally messed up... any help?
[15:32] <iceroot_> nic3: man setserial
[15:32] <nic3>  man setserial
[15:32] <nic3> No manual entry for setserial
[15:32] <iceroot_> nic3: then its not installed. sudo apt-get install setserial
[15:32] <iceroot_> nic3: then  man setserial
[15:33] <alberto> IS POSIBLE TO HAVE 3D COMPIZ WORKING IN UBUNTU 9.04 IN HP MINI 2133
[15:33] <alberto> thanks
[15:33] <grawity> alberto: NO NEED TO SHOUT
[15:33] <grawity> thanks
[15:33] <iceroot_> alberto: why not?
[15:34] <CShadowRun> oh noes :(
[15:34] <CShadowRun> not ubottu D:
[15:34] <fograven> Can I just say... I love Ubuntu.
[15:34] <Glowball> Is there any way to turn my screen output by 90 degrees? (Using NVidia 190.42 driver)
[15:34] <alberto> iceroot_: VIA chrome 9 chipset, i think my via driver from via dont have 3d hability
[15:34] <alberto> iceroot_: :_(
[15:34] <llutz> Glowball: xrandr
[15:34] <alberto> iceroot_: is better than VESA, but, my desktop is very .. i dont know
[15:34] <alberto> not a 2009 desktop
[15:34] <alberto> you know?
[15:34] <alberto> xD
[15:34] <alberto> understand me?
[15:34] <iceroot_> !enter | alberto
[15:35] <iceroot_> alberto: stop that spam
[15:35] <alberto> what spam?
[15:35] <vegombrei> how do get emerald theme manager to execute the theme
[15:35] <kinja-sheep> !emerald | vegombrei
[15:35] <kinja-sheep> Oh duh.
[15:35] <iceroot_> alberto: keep your questions short in one line, dont flodd the channeö
[15:35] <alberto> ok
[15:35] <Glowball> llutz: Haha, that one made me laugh :) There's an option to input a transformation matrix! Epic! Thanks :)
[15:35] <alberto> is canonical paying you?
[15:35] <kinja-sheep> vegombrei: Emerald is not supported. You're encouraged to ditch Emerald and start using Compiz.
[15:35] <nine_> grawity: Won't work for me.  Can you place that in a for-loop?
[15:35] <nic3> iceroot_: i went through setserial, is there any command i need to run exactly?
[15:36] <djyox> anyone good with apt-get?
[15:36] <iceroot_> nic3: dont know not using it. doesnt the manpage tell you?
[15:36] <ikonia> djyox: just ask your question
[15:36] <djyox> or if thats even the progam I need to be running
[15:36] <iceroot_> djyox: just ask the question in one line with usefull details (error messages and so on)
[15:37] <alberto> iceroot_: a la jota jota, que bailan los perros, levantan la pata y muestran los huevos
[15:37] <thiebaude> !es
[15:38] <coz_> another net split?  geez
[15:38] <bishop> hello
[15:39] <coz_> by the way guys... if anyone want to change their gdm them   it's really quite simple
[15:39] <djyox> I ran apt-get install, my terminal was closed, I looked to try to clear it/stop it but it says its locked
[15:39] <fograven> iceroot_: thanks man that did it
[15:39] <iceroot_> fograven: np
[15:40] <epinky> djyox: check with "ps -waux | grep apt"
[15:40] <tobiasz> why does my amsn tray icon disappear frequently?
[15:40] <coz_> whoa
[15:40] <nic3> does anyone use photon+ here?
[15:40] <coz_> nic3,   I do not ...sorry
[15:40] <bishop> hey floodbot2
[15:40] <djyox> iceroot_: it spit out a few lines, should I copy/paste here?
[15:41] <thiebaude> what is supybot?
[15:41] <iceroot_> !paste | djyox
[15:41] <kinja-sheep> thiebaude: http://tinyurl.com/yg9y64d
[15:42] <djyox> alright, so what am I looking for within this?
[15:42] <thiebaude> kinja-sheep, thanks
[15:42] <DJones> thiebaude: Its a cross platform IRC bot that ubottu is based on, have a look at https://www.ohloh.net/p/supybot
[15:42] <djyox> iceroot_: not terminal, not the paste
[15:42] <thiebaude> ahh ok
[15:42] <djyox> in terminal*
[15:43] <iceroot_> djyox: sorry, dont understand
[15:43] <alabd> Is it possible to know what do all close source softwares do ?
[15:43] <CShadowRun> alabd not easily, no
[15:44] <CShadowRun> not legally really either
[15:44] <djyox> iceroot_: Sorry, I'm tired. I ran ps -waux | grep apt
[15:44] <alabd> you mean debuging is not easy yes CShadowRun ?
[15:44] <iceroot_> !ot | alberto
[15:44] <djyox> iceroot_: What am I looking for in this? it doesn't mean anything to me
[15:44] <CShadowRun> alabd: debugging is impossible, you don't have the code, even if you could find out what was wrong you couldn't fix it
[15:45] <jelly-bean1> so its the authentication process that is slow since upgrading to karmic. it is also slow during the ltsp thin client user login process
[15:45] <nic3> is this any problem: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342777/
[15:45] <iceroot_> djyox: what happen if you use sudo apt-get install something -s
[15:45] <iceroot_> djyox: that error we want
[15:45] <nibbler> how can i change the properties of my panel (taskbar) when there is no unoccupied space to right-click?
[15:45] <jelly-bean1> using `passwd` to reset user passwords is taking a super long time too
[15:46] <jelly-bean1> but htop shows system load is way low and everything not involving authentication is fast
[15:46] <alabd> CShadowRun: some do debugging with disassembler
[15:46] <iceroot_> jelly-bean1: getent passwd    is working faster?
[15:46] <djyox> iceroot_: Never mind, I just checked again and its working. I was trying to apt-get autoclean, but before dinner chow it wasn't working, however, now it ran and is working fine. Thanks for your help
[15:46] <copernic> why does sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /media/USBHDD -o uid=root,gid=root fail to work properly in ubuntu, I keep getting my standard user instead of the root user
[15:46] <CShadowRun> alabd: true, but it's just making things so difficult
[15:46] <jelly-bean1> iceroot_: what?
[15:46] <iceroot_> djyox: good to hear
[15:47] <xiong> nibbler, This may not be the answer you want, but: Remove an item from the panel, diddle the panel, re-add the item?
[15:47] <iceroot_> jelly-bean1: i asked if getent passwd   is working faster then using passwd to change a password
[15:47] <alabd> CShadowRun: so it is possible in that way yes ? is that way possible for all softwares debugging ?
[15:47] <Gwince|Work> nibbler: Make some space on the taskbar.
[15:47] <tobiasz> why does my amsn tray icon disappear frequently?
[15:47] <nibbler> xiong: then instantly other icons occupie.... and yes thats ont the solution im looking for, cause i regularly need this
[15:48] <CShadowRun> alabd technically it's possible to open the executable in a hex editor and debug it in hex.
[15:48] <jelly-bean1> iceroot_: how would i test that?
[15:48] <iceroot_> jelly-bean1: typing  getent passwd
[15:48] <psyferre> hey #ubuntu.  I'm porting a LOT of code from windows to ubuntu and have a decent amount of unc paths being used for file access.  In looking through the samba docs it looks like I'm going to have to create a mount point on my system for every other machine on the network i need to access... is that correct?  Or is there some way I can just hit the shares via unc path name?
[15:48] <CShadowRun> alabd but, it's stupid. It'd actually be quicker/better to just rewrite the application from scratch...
[15:48] <jelly-bean1> maybe this has something to do with eCryptfs?
[15:48] <djyox> iceroot_: do you know how to encrypt files for programs, and yet have those programs run as if everything was still in the file? Someone showed me a while back how they were doing it, but I don't remember
[15:49] <djyox> *still in the folder
[15:49] <jelly-bean1> iceroot_: it appears to dump the /etc/passwd file to the screen. no delay
[15:50] <psyferre> oops... asking my question in #ubuntu-server.  My fault.
[15:51] <iceroot_> jelly-bean1: yes its using /etc/passwd and also ldap and other things where that infos can be
[15:52] <tobiasz> stop ffs
[15:54] <alabd> CShadowRun: in that kind debugging  is it possible always to understand what software do after running
[15:54] <coz_> another split  darn
[15:54] <CShadowRun> alabd i suggest you start learning to program before even comprehending these questions
[15:54] <CShadowRun> I've been programming for about 10 years and they are on the edge of my knowledge
[15:55] <tobiasz> where does google chrome store it's plugins?
[15:55] <copernic> mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /media/USBHDD -o uid=root,gid=root , fails to mount with root as owner, any idea why ?(seems to be ubuntu specific)
[15:55] <alabd> CShadowRun: these question are not for using humble am writting some lines about open source softwares
[15:55] <CShadowRun> alabd: ahhhhh
[15:56] <CShadowRun> alabd: i'll query you and help explain some stuff then
[15:56] <alabd> then there should be written while software is not open source what will happen CShadowRun thanks
[15:57] <adalal1> guys, quick help,
[15:57] <tobiasz> anyone know?
[15:57] <adalal1> how do you scan for networks on commandline?
[15:57] <adalal1> wifi networks
[15:57] <kermit> how do i fix flash sound in firefox?  it stopped worknig since i upgraded to 9.10
[15:58] <adalal1> anyone?
[15:58] <kermit> adalal1: iwlist scanning
[15:58] <xover> where can i find into on sysv
[15:59] <xover> I want to know what check and abort do?
[15:59] <tobiasz> where does google chrome store it's plugins?
[15:59] <tobiasz> where does google chrome store it's plugins?
[16:00] <tobiasz> STOP IT
[16:00] <adalal1> annyone in the room that can help me with connecting a to a wifi network via command line?
[16:00] <tobiasz> STOP
[16:00] <tobiasz> what's wrong with this channel
[16:00] <Pici> tobiasz: Its a netsplit, yelling at it won't make it stop.
[16:01] <tobiasz> where does google chrome store it's plugins?
[16:01] <Pici> tobiasz: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit , see also http://announce.freenode.net
[16:01] <tobiasz> it is happening quite too often
[16:02] <vs93taras> hey all
[16:02] <nozes> lol
[16:02] <manish> hey
[16:02] <ska> I knew that xorg.conf.good was there for a reason :)
[16:02] <nozes> lol
[16:02] <Data-ace> lusers
[16:02] <vs93taras> okay here's my dilemma
[16:03] <vs93taras> i am running off my livecd now
[16:03] <manish> so i was lukin' for a bit of help here,just installed xubuntu
[16:03] <vs93taras> i have two hard drives, and i would like to install on the smaller one, and make the other my /home
[16:03] <^Spartano^> ciao a tutti
[16:04] <vs93taras> but i can't get to grub for that one, and it only goes to the grub from a previous installation on the bigger drive
[16:04] <Exaltia> hello there
[16:05] <vs93taras> any ideas?
[16:05] <Cube``1> hey, is there any small nice project that needs some documentation/tutorial?
[16:05] <Exaltia> mkisofs -J -l -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -no-emul-boot -boot-load-size 4 -bootinfo-
[16:05] <Exaltia> table -z -iso-level 4 -c isolinux/iboot.cat -o ./autoinstall.iso
[16:05] <Exaltia>  newiso/ retures error message : genisoimage: Uh oh, I cant find the boot catalog directory '../isolinux'!, any help, please?
[16:06] <vs93taras> nothin?
[16:07] <jelly-bean1> why does authentication take forever on karmic? jaunty was fine
[16:07] <ctmjr> adalal1: sudo iwlist "interface" scan  interface being your wifi ie wlan0 without ""
[16:07] <Cube``1> jelly-bean1: what kinda authentication?
[16:08] <jelly-bean1> Cube``1: all kinds as far as i can tell: ssh, sudo, gdm user login, passwd, etc.
[16:09] <vs93taras> repeat for anyone new who came in
[16:10] <thevishy> can anyone tell why my ubuntu box is getting slow ?
[16:10] <illuminaris> My sound is not working for some reason. I have just installed a fresh 9.10 CD less than a week ago. I have headphones and speakers plugged in. I ran a System -> Admin -> System Test and it did not work. I'm not really sure where to start.
[16:10] <jongbergs> hi, how would i enable remote desktop connection connected thru ssh?
[16:10] <thevishy> it takes a lot time to switch between tabs in firefox etc
[16:10] <vs93taras> i am trying to get ubuntu to boot from one of two hard drives, yet all i can get to is the grub from the previous installation on my *other* hard drive, which i now want to save for /home
[16:10] <jongbergs> !sound | illuminaris
[16:11] <Cube``1> jelly-bean1: ow
[16:11] <vs93taras> nay ideas??
[16:11] <jongbergs> hi, how would i enable remote desktop connection connected thru ssh?
[16:11] <ska> Thats easy..
[16:11] <ska> jongbergs: first you need to port forward SSH as usual..
[16:12] <syk> jongbergs, open-ssh
[16:12] <syk> maybe
[16:12] <ska> jongbergs: oops.. network splits
[16:12] <jelly-bean1> ssh authentication takes like 5 minutes
[16:12] <jelly-bean1> before the upgrade it was instant since its on the LAN
[16:12] <IcyJ> After installing updates on Ubuntu 9.10 a week or two ago, I now have to run "sudo service cups start" and "sudo modprobe vboxnetflt" to print or run Virtualbox, respectively.  How do I get these run at startup like they used to?
[16:12] <Templar_Xion> ska, easier than stopping these server splits?
[16:12] <adalal1> 5 mins... lol
[16:12] <vs93taras> o well
[16:12] <ska> Then have the desktop allow remote desktop in ubuntu, however you want to.
[16:12] <illuminaris> jongbergs, I am unable to double click on volume control. it just brings up a volume bar. All I can do is right click and preferences, but there is no 'file' option and no 'ALSA' option I can find.
[16:12] <jongbergs> ska: what i want is enable remote desktop connection while im connected to ssh
[16:13] <haven489> hey guyz, the Dell latitude d400 will it run ubuntu well?
[16:13] <epinky> jongbergs: check "vncviewer -via"
[16:13] <ska> jongbergs: Then vncviewer -compresslevel 9 -quality 1 -via myhost.com 192.168.1.100
[16:13] <Exaltia> haven489, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesDesktops
[16:13] <ska> jongbergs: assuming he's behind a firewall of course.
[16:13] <mmo|> Can anyone tell me how to make my thinkpad trackpoint work in Ubuntu 9.10? I have tried gpointing but it doesnt really do anything. Also I have tried copying that file into the policy dir but it does not work either (after restart)
[16:14] <haven489> Exaltia: thanks, this helped
[16:14] <ska> jongbergs: I don't know how to do that, but I suppose you can enable desktop via commandline..
[16:14] <ska> jongbergs: i've never done it.
[16:15] <mw> hello everybody. i just started strigi/nepomuk and they did the indexing. but, how do i search now? i cannot find a strigi client wicht should be preinstalled... using kubuntu karmic btw.
[16:15] <mw> hello everybody. i just started strigi/nepomuk and they did the indexing. but, how do i search now? i cannot find a strigi client wicht should be preinstalled... using kubuntu karmic btw.
[16:15] <jongbergs> ska: i mean, instead of going to the remote computer, since you can ssh, you do not need to go to System > Preferences > Remote Desktop and configure it..just doing it in command line
[16:16] <JuJuBee> im trying to install amarok2.2.1 manually in ubuntu Jaunty and get the following error  Could NOT find Taglib (missing: TAGLIB_INCLUDES TAGLIB_LIBRARIES)
[16:16] <JuJuBee>   while trying to  cmake .. -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=`kde4-config --prefix`
[16:16] <IcyJ> jelly-bean1:  I use ssh on ubuntu 9.10, connects very fast.  Maybe you could try to delete your ~/.ssh folder and retry the connection.
[16:17] <Kubit> this channel dost have issues with flood
[16:18] <Kubit> honestly what the hell :P
[16:18] <m0ar> I want to have the same wallpaper on each monitor. NOT tiled, not stretched or centered but one on each!  Possible in gnome?
[16:18] <Mischko> hello
[16:18] <Pici> Kubit: netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit , see also http://announce.freenode.net
[16:18] <m0ar> I want to have the same wallpaper on each monitor. NOT tiled, not
[16:18] <m0ar>               stretched or centered but one on each!  Possible in gnome?
[16:19] <IcyJ> After installing updates on Ubuntu 9.10 a week or two ago, I now have to run "sudo service cups start" and "sudo modprobe vboxnetflt" to print or run Virtualbox, respectively.  Can I have these cmds run at startup like they used to?
[16:19] <Kubit> Pici: understood
[16:19] <Kubit> Pici: thanks for the info :P
[16:19] <Pici> Kubit: np
[16:20] <m0ar> I want to have the same wallpaper on each monitor. NOT tiled, not stretched or centered but one on each!  Possible in gnome?
[16:21] <mmo|> Can anyone tell me how to make my thinkpad trackpoint work in Ubuntu 9.10? I have tried gpointing but it doesnt really do anything. Also I have tried copying that file into the policy dir but it does not work either (after restart)
[16:21] <JuJuBee> How do I install TagLib1.6 in Jaunty?
[16:22] <amine> hi, does anybody know how to change CPU frequency using D-Bus ?
[16:23] <m0ar> I want to have the same wallpaper on each monitor. NOT tiled, not stretched or centered but one on each!  Possible in gnome?
[16:23] <m0ar> Wtf is up with all the netsplits?
[16:23] <CShadowRun> m0ar: freenode's being DDoS'd
[16:23] <Pici> m0ar: see http://announce.freenode.net
[16:24] <LordXe-gnu> lots of script kiddies attacking freenode lately
[16:24] <m0ar> CShadowRun, Pici:  Fuck them D:
[16:24] <CShadowRun> indeed
[16:24] <m0ar> CShadowRun: Seriously, they have NO reason at all
[16:25] <JuJuBee> Death to the script kiddies!
[16:25] <c3l> why would someone DDoS freenode?
[16:25] <CShadowRun> It's school holidays, skiddies are out in force
[16:25] <CShadowRun> That's just how it is.
[16:26] <c3l> but only a pure retard would harm something that is on their own side, like freenode. go fuck up microsoft instead
[16:26] <m0ar> I want to have the same wallpaper on each monitor. NOT tiled, not stretched or centered but one on each!  Possible in gnome?
[16:26] <boomernang> someone tried ubuntu at home and couldnt get modern warfare 2 to work - so DDoS is the answer
[16:26] <m0ar> c3l: Point
[16:26] <Flare183> !language | c3l
[16:26] <Pici> Can we please try to keep this channel on topic. #ubuntu-offtopic for other chatter.  Thanks!
[16:26]  * Flare183 agrees with Pici 
[16:26] <qwyeth> yeah, c31, you should know better than to use the M word in here
[16:27] <c3l> qwyeth, :D
[16:27] <m0ar> qwyeth: You mean MICROSOFT? c:
[16:28] <c3l> m0ar, schhh! do not speak about the one that cannot be spoken about
[16:28] <m0ar> c3l: voldemor--  Oh
[16:28] <arthurjohnson> Having an issue with 9.10.  Can't find where to un-set "nolisten" in the GDM configuration.  Need to turn it off to run x2x
[16:31] <Exaltia> i have trouble making a unattended iso : genisoimage: Uh oh, I cant find the boot catalog directory 'isolinux'!
[16:31] <Exaltia> , anyone has an idea?
[16:31] <johnyjj2> hello
[16:32] <manish> hello ppl,quick question-how do you run pdf files in xubuntu? can't find a pdf viewer....m a newbie
[16:32] <Seveas> manish, install evince
[16:32] <DaZ> manish: xpdf, evince
[16:32] <testi> how can i force resolution 1680x1050? System > Settings > Display just shows 1360x768, and a few 4:3 resolutions. EDID fails because the KVM switch cannot pass it. However - where does "Display" get this not so usual resolution from and why can't I enter my own resolutions or why is there no bigger set of resolutions available. It's not that there are resolutions that are compatible with all screens.
[16:32] <manish> thnx
[16:33] <hackel> testi:  man xorg.conf
[16:36] <ehabmostafa> hi
[16:36] <thiscomputer> on an acer aspire one using xubuntu 9.04 what's the best keyboard layout to choose hopping to add the superl key
[16:36] <ViridianFire> Hey does anyone know how to make a grub splash screen? all the tutorials I found online are old
[16:38] <mrqismrx> does the standard ubuntu 9.10 come with a firewall?
[16:39] <epinky> mrqismrx: yes, it's called iptables, you can configure also ufw
[16:39] <testi> hackel, thanks. That's what I'm gonna do later. First I'd like to figure out why that tool seems to show a random set of resolutions instead of all possible resolutions OR in the restrictive case only resolutions that are supported by every single monitor (since EDID fails) - How are these resolutions determined?
[16:40] <illuminaris> My sound currently does not work properly. I have headphones and speakers plugged in, but the sound will only come out of the headphones, and it comes out at a very very low volume even though it's turned all the way up on the headphones and PC. I've tried the Ubuntu Sound Troubleshooting guide and it didn't help.
[16:40] <epinky> !ufw | mrqismrx
[16:40] <arooni> how do i get the temperature of the cpu from the command line?
[16:40] <iceroot_> arooni: lm-sensors
[16:40] <mrqismrx> epinky, but do I need to do something if I just want standard firewall features? like for example window has a firewall that comes with the OS. I understand that there is better firewalls but I just want some standard security.
[16:41] <hackel> testi:  It shows whatever your xorg driver reports..  Sure the KVM doesn't send some default edid info?
[16:42] <epinky> mrqismrx: use ufw, but by default you have "standard" security
[16:42] <mrqismrx> epinky, ok cool thanks =) then I will look that up when I get more familiar with ubuntu. one thing at the time. standard will do for now.
[16:43] <droide> hi
[16:44] <droide> anyone with javapos experience on ubuntu?
[16:46] <nibbler> my scaling feature in grdc is greyed out, any idea how to enable it?
[16:46] <testi> hackel, oh - it seems to fail getting EDID. read-edid produces an empty file. Don't know which other tool to use.
[16:46] <iceroot_> instead of launchpad and the bug-reporter from the cli, isnt there a real bugzilla?
[16:47] <clueless> where is the .logout file in Ubuntu.  I know it's in my home directory but I can't find it
[16:47] <bharathi> does any one know how to bypass dansgaurdian in ubuntu
[16:49] <kermit> lord Chrome is fast, is it prefetching links!?
[16:49] <coderdad_> man I am having problems with installing ruby using apt-get
[16:49] <Assil> Hi ! i need help with netbook remix 9.10 please ! i cant install it ... anyone ?
[16:50] <manish> can anyone tell me how to install evince?
[16:50] <epinky> !unr | Assil
[16:51] <iceroot_> kermit: no, its using a different javascript-engine
[16:51] <isolat3dsh33p> kermit: Try open a large svg file. Do you face any problem with it?
[16:51] <iceroot_> manish: sudo apt-get install evince
[16:51] <kermit> isolat3dsh33p: i'll try if you give me the link to one
[16:52] <manish> iceroot-thnx
[16:53] <Assil> guys ! i need help installing UNR on my netbook Packard bell DoT S
[16:54] <Assil> after booting from the usb boot drive
[16:54] <isolat3dsh33p> kermit: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/Stachledraht_DDos_Attack.svg try this :)
[16:54] <Assil> i have the menu
[16:54] <Assil> then i select intall ubuntu
[16:54] <isolat3dsh33p> and then?
[16:54] <jas72z> amarok will not play my mp3 tracks using ubuntu 9.04 banshee rhythm player vlc or work fine
[16:54] <Assil> after that i have the logo of ubuntu, but then nothing
[16:55] <Assil> just a blank screen
[16:55] <kermit> isolat3dsh33p: yeah, it has issues with that
[16:55] <Assil> no sign of activity
[16:55] <iceroot_> !enter | Assil
[16:55] <isolat3dsh33p> kermit: see... :D
[16:55] <isolat3dsh33p> Assil: For how long?
[16:55] <Assil> how long what ?
[16:56] <isolat3dsh33p> Assil: The black screen phenomenon :)
[16:57] <Assil> it just stays like that ..............
[16:57] <Ashfire908> yeehaw.
[16:58] <isolat3dsh33p> DDoS D:
[16:58] <Assil> i tried the other option of trying ubuntu, but it goes just the sae way, except there's no logo !
[16:58] <manish> i can't get evince to install, and when i try the apt-get,it says evince is already in its latest version
[16:58] <manish> and i can't find it on my drive
[16:59] <tweakt> Given a list of packages, what's the easiest way to generate a list of all dependencies (and sub-dependencies)?
[16:59] <maco> manish: /usr/bin/evince ?
[16:59] <isolat3dsh33p> Assil: Which installation method are you using? LiveCD or the alternate install?
[16:59] <redDEADresolve> manish, its as easy as right clicking on the menu
[16:59] <Ashfire908> Hi, I've got an issue with GDM and XDMCP. I've got it all working, but since I'm just testing I'm disconnecting and reconnecting, and I'm hitting the max connections from one host, however I'm not connected more than once at a time. How do I flush out the dead connections from gdm?
[16:59] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know how to setup a virgin modile usb modem on linux i just got it
[16:59] <redDEADresolve> manish, then select edit menus, scroll down to documents and check the document viewer box
[17:00] <redDEADresolve> manish, you can also launch it by hitting alt+f2 and typing in evince
[17:00] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know how to setup a usb modem from virgin usb modem?
[17:00] <ubuntu> привет всем
[17:00] <Assil> isolat3dsh33p : i'm booting from A usb drive
[17:00] <perlsyntax> i new at this o is there something i need to get for it.
[17:00] <epinky> !ru | ubuntu
[17:00] <perlsyntax> ?
[17:00] <ubuntu> как у вас дела
[17:01] <perlsyntax> i useing ubuntu 9.10
[17:01] <ubuntu> kak u vas dela
[17:01] <perlsyntax> hello
[17:01] <mezquitale> !patience | perlsyntax
[17:01] <redDEADresolve> manish, did you get it?
[17:01] <plunked> haiz, some people really dont understand how community channels work
[17:02] <Assil> solat3dsh33p : i Created a UNR flash drive, and then when strying to install i had that issue
[17:02] <manish> redDEADresolve-it worked,but how i can't find it in /usr/bin.....sorry it seems stupid,i'm using linux for the first time
[17:02] <isolat3dsh33p> !livecd | Assil
[17:02] <ppp> WEDI
[17:03] <ppp> HEJA
[17:03] <ppp> WYPIERDALAĆ
[17:03] <Pici> !pl | ppp
[17:03] <redDEADresolve> manish, it is usr/bin/evince in ubuntu 9.10
[17:03] <ppp> hey
[17:03] <Assil> isolat3dsh33p : it's a netbook man !! it doesn't have a CD drive !!
[17:03] <redDEADresolve> perlsynatax, set it up in windows first then ubuntu should automically discover it when you plug it in
[17:04] <manish> and i don't suppose my using xubuntu 9.10 makes a difference?
[17:04] <Assil> isolat3dsh33p : i said i was installing UNR : ubuntu netbook remix !!!
[17:04] <ppp> Pan
[17:04] <ppp> pan
[17:04] <mezquitale> Assil, what is the problem you are having with unr?
[17:04] <ppp> yhdyuehdzjfdjfhiesurhdfhskfheiufdf
[17:04] <red__> HELP PLEASE - I cant watch DVD's or play mp3 some one told me to install codex but where from?
[17:04] <redDEADresolve> manish, i have a xfce install i could double check but IT should be in the same place
[17:04] <Pici> ppp: Please stop.
[17:04] <ppp> KKS LECH
[17:05] <redDEADresolve> red__, http://www.ubuntumini.com/2009/07/medibuntu-for-ubuntu-910-karmic-koala.html
[17:05] <redDEADresolve> red__, or install ubuntu-restricted extras from the ubuntu store
[17:05] <redDEADresolve> red__, well you should do them both
[17:06] <Assil> mezquitale : i can't install it ... , after booting from my unr flash drive, i have the menu an then select install ubuntu; Then the logo of ubuntu appears, but after, it just goes blank !!
[17:06] <redDEADresolve> manish, is it in that folder. if i get up and load xfce and it is im gonna be pissed
[17:06] <isolat3dsh33p> Assil: I'm sorry can't help :D
[17:06] <Assil> solat3dsh33p : ok bro ! thanks anyway :)
[17:07] <mezquitale> Assil, it sounds like it could be an issue with the graphics driver, can you try selecting the option to just try unr ?
[17:07] <redDEADresolve> red__, you ok now?
[17:08] <Myth```> How can I make the default directory a user starts in WRITEABLE with SSHD?
[17:08] <mezquitale> yet another net split?
[17:08] <jGarrido> This is the first time I've ever connected successfully on the first try, and now the server is going down??  :(
[17:08] <Assil> mezquitale: i tried that ! it just goes the same way, but no logo this time
[17:08] <motown> dull :(
[17:09] <redDEADresolve> I windows and vista installed on a dual boot on two separate hard drives. Had grub automatically configure my setup and was able to select both. I changed the sata drive order and no I can't boot to vista. How do i rerun the grub configuration?
[17:09] <mezquitale> have tro tried getting into a console using "ctrl-alt-f1"
[17:10] <perlsyntax> Does anyone know how to get a MC760 to work on linux?
[17:10] <Myth`> wow
[17:10] <Myth`> woww
[17:10] <perlsyntax> the networkmanger will not pick it up
[17:10] <mezquitale> Assil, have you  tried getting into a console using "ctrl-alt-f1"
[17:10] <perlsyntax> i did setup on windows just fine.
[17:11] <trism_> redDEADresolve: is this on ubuntu 9.10? and does grub still work, you just can't boot vista?
[17:11] <Assil> mezquitale: no i didn't ... but let me try that now
[17:11] <perlsyntax>   i hope someone knows. Or show me a link to get it to work
[17:11] <perlsyntax> :)
[17:11] <nunojpg> my workstation internal speaker doesn't work
[17:11] <nunojpg> 9.10 - Integrated High Definition audio with ADI1884 codec, 3D audio compliant with AC'97 Rev. 2.3, internal PC speaker
[17:11] <redDEADresolve> trism_, yeah grub still works, ubuntu and vista boot fine if I use the bios to change there boot order. grub just not configured right
[17:12] <Diverdude> How do i avoid that screenlets are getting hidden/removed when i press "click here to hide all windows and show the desktop"  down in left corner?
[17:12] <trism_> redDEADresolve: I would try just running sudo update-grub; and let grub probe for the other os's again
[17:12] <Assil> mezquitale: Nothing :( still just a blank screen !!
[17:13] <redDEADresolve> trism_, duh sometimes its the same things
[17:13] <mezquitale> Assil, what netbook do you have?
[17:13] <redDEADresolve> trism_, thanks buddy!
[17:13] <Assil> Packard bell dotS
[17:13] <Diverdude> anyone?
[17:13] <Assil> mezquitale: packard bell dotS
[17:13] <redDEADresolve> perlsyntax, whats the model again
[17:14] <Homely_Girl> Hi, can anyone help me setup a Huawei modem on karmic?
[17:14] <Homely_Girl> That's a 3 mobile b/band dongle
[17:14] <mezquitale> Assil, you have a 64 bit version?
[17:15] <redDEADresolve> Homely_Girl, http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:sJz4-74FafoJ:tech.firdooze.com/2009/11/09/work-around-for-ubuntu-910-karmic-koala-huawei-modem-problem/+huawei+modem+Ubuntu+9.10&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
[17:16] <Homely_Girl> thank you!! :)
[17:16] <jero_ufrgs> flood
[17:16] <riverbird> watch for trollbots - it's deep in here ..
[17:16] <Diverdude> anyone?
[17:16] <Assil> mezquitale: no ! ubuntu-9.10-netbook-remix-i386.iso is the version i have
[17:17] <mezquitale> Assil, have you tested your usb drive with another computer?
[17:18] <Assil> mezquitale: there's no problem with the usb drive, cuz i used it with gparted before that to partition my drives
[17:19] <michaeljwjr> can anyone tell me how to change the port in gnome xchat?
[17:19] <Guest55262> hi im getting this error when trying to play *any* video file  with VLC "Streaming / Transcoding failed: VLC could not open the encoder."
[17:19] <jack_spratt> Hi I need to resize my root partition. My HDD has two partitions - root @ 30gb and /home at 50gb. I need to give root more space at the expense of /home. Both partitions are ext4. There is space on /home to take and give to root. Can I do the resize without losing all data?
[17:20] <Guest55262> jack_spratt, yes but i would strongly advise backing up data.
[17:20] <jack_spratt> Guest55262: great, what tool should I use? gparted? Is there any other preparation that I need to make to /home before decreasing its size?
[17:21] <jero_ufrgs> Algum brasileiro que possa me ajudar com o MySQL?
[17:21] <lengend_> why does i always get "futex_wait_queue_me" when i close firefox and i always have to end the process...sometimes it closes, sometimes it doesn't
[17:21] <mherweg> Hello every1! Q: is amule still ok for finding and downloading music or are there better ways ?
[17:21] <DopeGhoti> jack_spratt: Gparted should to the trick, but backing up one's data is always well-advised when mucking about with partitions.
[17:21] <crypt-00> jack_spratt, gparted will work. Be very careful not to shrink a partition too small
[17:22] <mezquitale> Assil, im looking at the forums and I cant find anything for your machine, I would either open a new thread and try to get help that way, or just try 9.04
[17:22] <crypt-00> jack_spratt, you should see the amount used with gparted
[17:22] <jack_spratt> crypt-00: by too small you mean beyond what is available in free space
[17:22] <jack_spratt> crypt-00: OK.
[17:22] <lengend_> why does i always get "futex_wait_queue_me" when i close firefox and i always have to end the process...sometimes it closes, sometimes it doesn't?
[17:22] <Vault_> Кто подскажет, как установить и настроить VNC на Ubuntu 9.10???
[17:22] <DopeGhoti> !ru | Vault_
[17:22] <crypt-00> jack_spratt, by too small i mean that plus 25% for a reasonable margin of error.
[17:23] <aMuleAduGuest520> così va bene?
[17:23] <mezquitale> Assil, you can also try plugging the USB drive into different ports
[17:23] <nesuno> Hi! Is there any program, that streams audio real-time over a network from a machine to another?
[17:24] <jack_spratt> crypt-00: hmm, I'm glad I asked!
[17:24] <Assil> mezquitale: there is no problem with the usb drive or port :p it's fully functionning and was tried on different ports
[17:24] <buttons840> nesuno, the radio
[17:24] <bitfox> nesun: are you italian?
[17:24] <Assil> mezquitale: actually i found a thread on a forum, but i still did not react there, i'm going to watch it, here's the link : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1344546
[17:25] <IdleOne> buttons840: how was that helpful?
[17:25] <crypt-00> jack_spratt, remember, backup your data.... i have had good luck not loosing any data to partition resizes, however it is known to happen
[17:25] <buttons840> nesuno, there are programs that will do that, i'm not familiar with any; sorry for my jokes :)
[17:25] <nesuno> buttons840: and can it capture a common audio output (a game's alsa output) on the server side?
[17:25] <mezquitale> Assil, you have a eee pc 901?
[17:25] <wilhart> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net karmic Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D725E4885719E347
[17:26] <jack_spratt> crypt-00: Yes I will - have you ever resized with ext4 before?
[17:26] <caja2_> is there a COM port emulator for ubuntu?
[17:26] <Assil> mezquitale: no ! i have a dot S packard bell, but the problem described there seems the same
[17:26] <Assil> mezquitale: in the second post ...
[17:26] <nesuno> bitfox: Only the name, I speak some italian.
[17:26] <bitfox> nesuno: exactly, what are your needs?
[17:26] <wilhart> anyone know how to remove that repo it's not listed in sources.list
[17:26] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: how do you mean?
[17:26] <caja2_> DopeGhoti,  I want to send /dev/ttySx stuff to a usb receipt printer
[17:26] <DopeGhoti> wilhart: look in /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[17:27] <nesuno> bitfox: A game in the server side making audio output. I want to her that output on another machine, which I can reach through LAN.
[17:27] <bitfox> nesuno: Some month ago i read a topic about how to configure a web radio server on linux...
[17:27] <buttons840> nesuno, mediatomb is one, it can stream to devices like ps3 (which i would be interested in) but i don't know if it would work for what you need
[17:27] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: if you know the path of the printer, can you cat to it?
[17:27] <mwoehlke> hello, anyone know how to list a: installed packages and b: the contents of a package on an apt-based system?
[17:27] <wilhart> DopeGhoti: gotit! tnx
[17:28] <mwoehlke> preferably without X
[17:28] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, path? URI?
[17:28] <ekixmadbox> i nedd help on mi compaq presario cq61 ubuntu 9.10
[17:28] <ekixmadbox> wireless disconnection automatic
[17:28] <bitfox> nesun: ok, unfortunately i can't help you, i'm sorry
[17:28] <ekixmadbox> not mather whats
[17:28] <DopeGhoti> mwoehlke: list installed packages: "dpkg-query -l | grep 'ii'"
[17:28] <trism_> mwoehlke: dpkg -L package_name lists the contents of a package
[17:28] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: what is the USB printer in terms of /dev/ location?
[17:28] <mwoehlke> DopeGhoti, trism_: yup, sounds like what I need, thanks!
[17:29] <carlo> qualcuno scrive italiano?
[17:29] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, that´s one thing, I dont know, how can i find out?
[17:29] <mwoehlke> sheesh, I was looking at apt :-) (kind-of knew that was wrong, but... well I am used to rpm)
[17:29] <Guest58709> qualcuno parla italiano?
[17:29] <trism> mwoehlke: apt-file will list contents too...of packages that aren't even installed which is nice
[17:29] <jj77> is there any way to share /home and my documents on the same partition/folders? thanks!
[17:30] <Guest58709> io no speak english
[17:30] <riverbird> jack_spratt, i recently resized ext4, but it was on a fairly new install and not much data to concern.  all went fine
[17:30] <jj77> on xp/ubuntu
[17:30] <mwoehlke> trism: ah, 'repoquery' equivalent... thanks
[17:30] <maco> !it | Guest58709
[17:30] <jack_spratt> riverbird: thanks, looks like I've got nothing to worry about then
[17:30] <nesuno> bitfox: I started to see icecast, and darkice, but they cast audio files. Darkcast can make input for icecast, which captures dsp or hw:0.0. But they are the line-ins.
[17:31] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, I tried echo test > ttyS* and got input/output error on each one
[17:31] <mezquitale> Assil, some hardware can be tricky to work with linux, that is why you always have to check what youre buying, I have no problem with a netbook dell 1100
[17:31] <caja2_> and there is no ttyUSB
[17:31] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: the USB printer wouldn't show as /dev/ttyS*
[17:32] <LzrdKing> what is a good dvd authoring program for ubuntu?
[17:32] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: unplug the printer, 'tail -f /var/log/dmesg', and plug it back in.  Any output?
[17:32] <Assil> mezquitale: Are u saying that i just let go, and put m$ window$ on my netbook ?
[17:32] <caja2_> DopeGhoti,  let me see
[17:33] <LzrdKing> DopeGhoti is pronounced "dopefish"
[17:33] <DopeGhoti> LzrdKing: Yes it is.
[17:33] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, no output
[17:34] <evil> .дшые
[17:34] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: okay, try this:  ls /dev/bus/usb/ with the printer plugged and unplugged
[17:34] <buttons840> any good svg editing tools for ubuntu?
[17:35] <mezquitale> Assil, I'm saying that it's going to be a little tricky, I suggest you start a thread of your own in newsgroups and put your machine's info since the issue is with your machine
[17:35] <llua> why can my windows pc ping my ubuntu pc, but ubuntu cant ping windows
[17:35] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, same output on both plugged/un
[17:35] <buttons840> llua, probably a firewall blocking pings on your windows
[17:35] <Assil> mezquitale: ok ! thanks for your help man :)
[17:35] <llua> buttons840, hmm. thx
[17:36] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: hmm.  Not having dealt with USB printers much, I'm not sure what else to try..  Can you try to set it up as a generic pritner in System → Administration → Printing?
[17:37] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, the thing is that the POS application (Openbravo) I'm using supports /dev/ttyS*
[17:37] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, that's why I initially asked for a COM emulator
[17:38] <qwyeth> I have here two Ubuntu 9.10 machines.  Each has a shared folder on the desktop, with the boxes checked for "share this folder" and "enable guest access."  When I try to browse to them from an XP machine, one of them can be accessed with an arbitrary username and a blank password, and the other cannot.
[17:38] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, the printer works with CUPS, but from the software (java) I don't get the desired output
[17:38] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: does it support /dev/lpr?
[17:38] <caja2_> tried javapos and nothing
[17:38] <mezquitale> Assil, also, try 9.04 and see if it works on your machine
[17:39] <caja2_> I guess yes
[17:39] <Assil> mezquitale: is there a netbook version ?
[17:39] <caja2_> DopeGhoti,  I guess yes
[17:39] <mezquitale> let me check
[17:39] <qwyeth> The ubuntu with the working samba share is 'VM', and the one that is not working is 'laptop.'  When VM tries to mount the share on Laptop, I see the share but get the error "Unable to mount location - Failed to mount Windows share."
[17:40] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: I think CUPS might be able to direct /dev/ttyS? into /dev/lpr, but I'm not certain.  I've not dealt much with serial printers.
[17:40] <mezquitale> Assil, http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.04/
[17:40] <DopeGhoti> qwyeth: are both systems running a Samba server?
[17:40] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, ok, thanks for the help
[17:40] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: good luck!
[17:40] <caja2_> I think I'll have to try some other stuff
[17:40] <caja2_> thanks!
[17:40] <qwyeth> DopeGhoti, both systems are running the flavor of Samba that is automatically installed when I clicked on "share this folder"
[17:41] <mezquitale> Assil, make sure you download the correct version
[17:41] <tomstoms> I'm trying to install the proprietary drivers for ATI legacy on Jaunty. However, I get this error message. Can someone point me in the right direction? http://pastebin.com/dfdaaf6f
[17:41] <Assil> mezquitale: i will !
[17:41] <qwyeth> and I selected Yes when asked to automatically configure permissions, on both machines
[17:41] <DopeGhoti> qwyeth: can 'laptop' access its own share?
[17:41] <Perro_violeta> buenas
[17:42] <JonathanEllis> I am about to install Ubuntu in a dual boot configuration having already installed Windows and got it partitioned as I want it (why do M$ make it so hard to have a mounted partition for the home directory as is common and sensible practice in linux?!!!). Now the problem is gparted doesnt recognise any partitions on the hard disk and sees the whole thing as unallocated. Windows boots quite happily and sees all the ntfs partitions. I have run gparted f
[17:42] <qwyeth> DopeGhoti, no, it can't.
[17:42] <DopeGhoti> qwyeth: can you pastebin the output of 'sudo netstat -plnt'?
[17:42] <Assil> mezquitale: i on a bad shape :( my internet connection sucks !
[17:43] <tomstoms> If anyone has any idea about my ATI problem, I'll give more info as needed too.
[17:43] <Plouj> hi
[17:43] <Plouj> what's the equivalent of gnome-session-save --gui --logout-dialog in hardy? (gnome 2.22)
[17:43] <DopeGhoti> tomstoms: looks like the ATI driver you've downloaded doesn't support your kernel version based on that output.  Only a guess though.
[17:43] <nastas> hi all. i'm trying to install some drivers and i'm getting errors. check here http://pastebin.ubuntu-gr.org/m78ef1e7d any idea?
[17:43] <Assil> mezquitale: i do really appreciate what you did for me :) thx again !  see you  ... :)
[17:44] <mezquitale> Assil, no problem
[17:44] <qwyeth> DopeGhoti, pastebin.org/65676
[17:44] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, have you install the ATI driver successfully before?
[17:44] <chiques> Is there a Linux app that's good for texting back and forth from Ubuntu
[17:45] <DopeGhoti> chiques: you mean instant messaging, or SMS to and from cell phones?
[17:45] <DopeGhoti> tomstoms: Sorry, I use Nvidia cards
[17:45] <chiques> DopeGhoti, SMS to cell phones
[17:46] <nasrullah1> hi to all
[17:47] <DopeGhoti> qwyeth: again, on laptop, make a directory in /mnt for the share, and try 'mount -t smbfs //192.168.0.0/share /mnt/share' (with laptop's actual IP and share name)
[17:47] <nasrullah1> how to set up realplayer codecs in totem
[17:47] <DopeGhoti> qwyeth: qwyeth sudo as needed :)
[17:47] <qwyeth> of course ^_^
[17:47] <mezquitale> !hello | nasrullah1
[17:47] <mmo|> Can anyone tell me how to make my thinkpad trackpoint work in Ubuntu 9.10? I have tried gpointing but it doesnt really do anything. Also I have tried copying that file into the policy dir but it does not work either (after restart)
[17:47] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, you were right. The kernel is too new (and any kernel on Jaunty is too new for the legacy ATI drivers.)
[17:48] <grimtooth> anybody ever had the problem that pidgin or empathy wont show any contacts?
[17:48] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, the problem is, when I suspend to RAM, I cannot resume. The screen stays black, and I'm thinking it's because I'm using the open source radeon driver instead?
[17:48] <maco> grimtooth: is empathy just not doing anything at all?
[17:48] <mezquitale> grimtooth, yes, it's a setting that hides all offline users
[17:48] <maco> grimtooth: like it opens but doesnt connect or anything?
[17:48] <grimtooth> it says im connected and im aviable but no contacts are online
[17:48] <DopeGhoti> tomstoms: I've had problems with STR as well sometimes. Have you tried hibernating?
[17:49] <maco> oh
[17:49] <grimtooth> if i start up pidgin under windows it show 10 online
[17:49] <grimtooth> so thats weird
[17:49] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, nope, not yet. I would prefer to use S2R though, and I might as well do a full shutdown instead of hibernate, since I don't mind waiting a few extra seconds to boot.
[17:50] <DopeGhoti> tomstoms: you can isolate the ATI driver you're using as a cause by dropping to text-only console and testing with 'apmsleep'
[17:50] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, it's strange, because on openSUSE 11.1, suspend/resume worked fine. Is there something it did differently?
[17:50] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, you mean runlevel 1?
[17:50] <DopeGhoti> tomstoms: to stop the X server, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop (save your data in open apps first, this will kill your X serveR)
[17:50] <DopeGhoti> tomstoms: or three.
[17:51] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, I thought runlevels 2,3,4 and 5 don't exist in Ubuntu?
[17:51] <nasrullah1> realplayer codecs for totem
[17:51] <DopeGhoti> tomstoms: well, with 9.10, it uses upstart, but still has wrappers for runlevels
[17:51] <tomstoms> Okay, so when I do apmsleep, it will output any problem modules that may be interfering?
[17:51] <DopeGhoti> tomstoms: apmsleep is the CLI tool to suspend to RAM :)
[17:52] <DopeGhoti> tomstoms: (specifically, apmsleep --suspend)
[17:52] <nasrullah1> realplayer codecs for totem player
[17:52] <plainhao> eh, trying to finally upgrade my gutsy to hardy. by changing my apt/sources.list from gutsy to hardy, did i hose anything?
[17:52] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, oh, okay. And by not having the X server running, it will rule out the ATI driver?
[17:53] <DopeGhoti> tomstoms: exactly :)
[17:53] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, sounds awesome. Thank you! I will be back with a status update.
[17:53] <DopeGhoti> plainhao: is there a readon you didn't just use the update manager to upgrade?
[17:53] <DopeGhoti> tomstoms: good luck!
[17:53] <tdn> I am trying to install Ubuntu from Alternate CD, but I get this error: Failed to determine the codename for the release.
[17:53] <plainhao> doing through ssh
[17:53] <DopeGhoti> plainhao: the CLI tool would be 'do-release-upgrade' :)
[17:54] <plainhao> DopeGhoti, tried that
[17:54] <DopeGhoti> plainhao: to what effect?
[17:54] <grimtooth> anybody ever had the problem that pidgin or empathy wont show any contacts?
[17:54] <chiques> has anyone tried this? http://john.mcclumpha.org/linux/Build_your_own_SMS_gateway_with_Ubuntu_Linux_and_Gammu/
[17:54] <plainhao> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[17:54] <plainhao> current dist not found in meta-release file
[17:54] <plainhao> No new release found
[17:54] <DopeGhoti> grimtooth: only when all my firends were offline
[17:54] <ralf_e> is there some guide available about how to get sources of a ubuntu package, apply a patch and build a new package? (concrete, nautilus and this patch https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=167501#c34 which adds undo/redo support to nautilus - I'd like to test that change)
[17:55] <tdn> How do I install Ubuntu Alternate from USB drive instaead of CDROM?
[17:55] <DopeGhoti> plainhao: apt-get update && do-release-upgrade
[17:55] <plainhao> did that
[17:55] <grimtooth> they're online
[17:55] <plainhao> are the gutsy sources no longer reachable?
[17:55] <DopeGhoti> !gutsy
[17:55] <grimtooth> i had this bug since i installed 9.10
[17:55] <DopeGhoti> yep, it end of lifed this year :/
[17:56] <DopeGhoti> !eol
[17:56] <plainhao> well, i just changed gutsy to hardy in my sources.list and ran update and running upgrade now, wondering if i’m going to regret it
[17:56] <trism> ralf_e: this page describes a pretty simple method to get the source and rebuild a package http://www.moosechips.com/2008/09/ubuntu-rebuild-a-source-package/ (doesn't go into how to patch though)
[17:56] <Ramosa> when you are asked to create a new partition in the beginning or the end, do they mean after the current partition(s) ? and what does it matter
[17:56] <plainhao> unfortunately, the server was running fine for so long, i neglected it
[17:56] <DopeGhoti> plainhao: you might have some orphaned packages, but I don't think it'd going to explode in your face
[17:57] <DopeGhoti> plainhao: "If it ain't broke, don't break it" can be a double-edged sword :)
[17:57] <ralf_e> trism, thanks!
[17:57] <JrodDCx> poor guy
[17:57] <plainhao> thanks, DopeGhoti, going to retry the do-release-upgrade after the aptitude upgrade finishes
[17:58] <DopeGhoti> plainhao: good luck.  Also, you might want to check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes if you've not already done so.
[17:59] <Shawn-> is there any way to change the port that a game uses to connect to the interwebz
[17:59] <plainhao> in case i need to start from scratch, does the latest postfix still need patching for a db backend?
[17:59] <DopeGhoti> plainhao: and also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades
[17:59] <grimtooth> what is a good alternative to pidgin and empathy?
[17:59] <qwyeth> DopeGhoti, pastebin.org/65683
[17:59] <maco> grimtooth: kopete
[17:59] <mikobuntu> grimtooth,  amsn
[18:00] <grimtooth> i need a client that does icq and msn
[18:00] <isolat3dsh33p> guys, how to start scim? I forgot. :(
[18:00] <plainhao> ack, wish i’d seen that eolupgrades page earlier
[18:00] <plainhao> thanks, DopeGhoti
[18:00] <Ramosa> what do I choose as mount point for my primary partition ?
[18:00] <Dmole> grimtooth: piogen
[18:00] <DopeGhoti> qwyeth: looks like Laptop isn't offering up the share at all.  Have you tried unsharing and resharing the directory?
[18:01] <Shawn-> Ramosa /
[18:01] <Dmole> grimtooth: pidgen
[18:01] <JrodDCx> The Mount point would be /
[18:01] <Ramosa> Shawn, I have to specify it?
[18:01] <plustax> Hi there. I'm having an issue. I can't get my webcam to work with tinychat.com or stickam.com It works in cheese, but that's about it. Can anyone help me out?
[18:01] <Shawn-> Ramosa do you mean for installing ubuntu
[18:01] <llutz> plainhao: "apt-cache search postfix" will give you a list with versions for different db-systems
[18:01] <Ramosa> Shawn, actually not :)
[18:02] <qwyeth> DopeGhoti, yes, I've done that
[18:02] <Ramosa> Shawn, Jolicloud
[18:02] <qwyeth> same symptoms
[18:02] <Shawn-> Ramosa what are you trying to do then. Your root partition should automatically mount
[18:02] <barryberry> plustax any luck with facebook?
[18:02] <plustax> No sir.
[18:02] <plainhao> awesome, thanks, llutz
[18:02] <MASARUwota> plustax: whats the problem?
[18:02] <Ramosa> Shawn: i am asked about mount point during installation
[18:03] <plustax> I go to tinychat.com and start broadcasting
[18:03] <plustax> and it can't find my cam.
[18:03] <plustax> The only thing I can see that actually shows my cam is the cheese program.
[18:03] <MASARUwota> plustax: does the "cheese" application find it?
[18:03] <plustax> Manycam doesnt work either.
[18:03] <MASARUwota> ;/
[18:03] <plustax> Also, I am using an asus laptop with a built in cam.
[18:03] <plustax> yes, cheese finds it.
[18:03] <MASARUwota> plustax: i see
[18:04] <Shawn-> Ramaso yes your main partition would be root but you should also have space for swap and optionally a /home partition as well
[18:04] <Guest29291> Hey all
[18:04] <Shawn-> Ramosa *
[18:04] <Guest29291> I had a question about Sun's Virtual Box.
[18:04] <JrodDCx> It seems like your camra has a kernel driver but flash is being stupid ?
[18:04] <Guest29291> Anyone have wisdom on the subject?
[18:04] <plustax> can someone PM me and help me fix this issue? I will post results of the solution when finished.
[18:04] <plustax> I just really need to get this issue fix'd if possible.
[18:04] <DopeGhoti> qwyeth: on a lark, haveyou tried /etc/init.d/smbd restart ?
[18:04] <Ace42> I'm getting an "Invalid module format" error when modprobing some modules that were working fine (rmmod / modprobe) earlier.  I think a laptop crash might mean there's a process still active that is persisting through reboots; any suggestions?
[18:05] <darkscrypt> i'm looking for an easy way to get sendmail working for php
[18:05] <Ramosa> Shawn, i really need a partition for home?
[18:05] <Shawn-> Guest2929 I know about it what's up
[18:05] <darkscrypt> all i need is just a simple smtp server to send mail from.. i dont care what domain, i'm just wanting it to work with drupal
[18:05] <Guest29291> Can you PM me please Shawn?
[18:05] <barryberry> plustax I have the same problem I would like to record video on facebook...
[18:05] <darkscrypt> if anybody knows of something perhaps like a sendmail snap in, that works the same as sendmail but uses a remote smtp server and acts as a wrapper around sendmail
[18:05] <Shawn-> Ramosa yes its safer to have a seperate home patition that way if you fill up home with personal data your system will still boot
[18:05] <darkscrypt> that would be greatly helpful
[18:05] <plustax> barryberry
[18:06] <plustax> join #camhelp with me
[18:06] <Ramosa> Shawn, what size you recommend for root and for home partitions if I have about 80 gigs to dedicate
[18:06] <plustax> I will see if I can get some guru's in there with us
[18:07] <Shawn-> Ramosa about 20 or 25 gigs to / and then double your ram to swap and the rest to /home
[18:07] <haresh> any oen facing problem  with amsn liek loging taking very long
[18:07] <qwyeth> DopeGhoti, nope, that didn't work-
[18:08] <DopeGhoti> qwyeth: can you pastebin your /etc/samba/smb.conf ?
[18:08] <qwyeth> DopeGhoti, I can if you want, but I already ran a diff on smb.conf between the laptop and the vm and they're totally identical
[18:09] <JonathanEllis> On a machine with 1GB of RAM, what is a reasonable swap partition size? 1.5GB?
[18:09] <DopeGhoti> qwyeth: the thing is, if laptop can't even access its own share, something must be amiss, or there is a firewall klobbering the traffic
[18:09] <Ramosa> Shawn, thanks.. ext3 for all right?
[18:09] <kermit> JonathanEllis: yeah
[18:09] <DopeGhoti> qwyeth: is there a firewall on the laptop?
[18:09] <plustax> ramosa can you help me please?
[18:09] <plustax> :)
[18:10] <JonathanEllis> kermit: Or should I make it twice the physical RAM?
[18:10] <Ramosa> plustax, im not guru
[18:10] <kermit> JonathanEllis: well no, maybe more if you want to ensure hibernate works
[18:10] <JonathanEllis> kermit: I dont trust hibernate. I always shut down
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  how much hd space total.. and do you plan on using Hibernate.. are the 2 big questions
[18:10] <plustax> Can anyone here help me troubleshoot my webcam problem in Ubuntu 9.10? I can't get it to work with web applications. Only cheese.
[18:10] <kermit> JonathanEllis: then 1.5GB is fine
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  then 1.5gb will proberly be plenty. make it 2gb if ya really think you may need it
[18:11] <isolat3dsh33p> Guys, there's something seems suspicious to me in my Network:/// There's another computer title "USER-PC" where before it does not exist. There's another one which is mine. Is this normal? Btw, in my network, there's no other linux computer besides me
[18:11] <JonathanEllis> Dr_Willis: 55.89 Gib hard disk. But I am dual booting with windows so about a third of that has gone already
[18:11] <qnix> Hi, what's the proper way to run 2 differents apache2 with different configuration?
[18:11] <qwyeth> nope... iptables -S shows -P INPUT ACCEPT ; -P FORWARD ACCEPT; -P OUTPUT ACCEPT ... and there wouldn't be any other firewall; it's pretty close to a fresh install; the only things I added to it were picasa, banshee, chromium-browser, bisigi themes, and VLC
[18:12] <nullkuhl_> how to install kde(latest version) on Ubuntu Karmic Koala ?
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> isolat3dsh33p:  sure its not your router? My router shows up  since it can share a hd attatched to it.  also check the outoput of 'smbtree' and 'findsmb'
[18:12] <vicious> i accidentaly removed /etc/samba. i tried reinstalling samba, reconfiguring it, to no avail. What should i do to get those config files back?
[18:12] <qwyeth> it's attached to the same switch as the VM (which is currently sharing the host NIC in bridged mode)
[18:12] <Dr_Willis> JonathanEllis:  id say 1.5gb is fine.
[18:12] <JonathanEllis> Dr_Willis: Thanks
[18:13] <Samuel> anyone happen to kow the command to install ubuntu from command line?
[18:13] <DopeGhoti> vicious: apt-get --reinstall install samba perhaps?
[18:14] <Dr_Willis> Samuel:  you mean sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop   ?
[18:14] <DopeGhoti> nullkuhl_: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[18:14] <Samuel> no, I don't want to install a package, I want to install ubuntu
[18:14] <isolat3dsh33p> Dr_Willis: It's under the workgroup, there's no info for USER-PC for smbtree and not listed in USER-PC. What does it means?
[18:14] <Dr_Willis> Samuel:  what do you have installed right now? You mean the binary name of the installer the live cd uses?
[18:15] <Samuel> Dr_Willis, yes, I'm using the live CD
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> isolat3dsh33p:  not sure.  does findcd find it?
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> Samuel:  the icon on the desktop dosent work?
[18:15] <Samuel> Dr_Willis, no, it booted into command line, not x windows
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> I forget the name of the installer program. and if its a desktop cd. there is no cli installer...
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> Samuel:  desktop cd or alternative installer cd?
[18:16] <isolat3dsh33p> Dr_Willis: Command not found. :/ Anyway thanks.
[18:16] <Mithran> Booted a server with the Ubuntu 9.10 live CD, and it didn't automatically load the appropriate module for my SCSI controller. I've activated the module with modprobe, but the drives on the controller still don't show up in fdisk -l.
[18:16] <Samuel> ooooh, I thought the installer program worked both ways :(
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> isolat3dsh33p:  its part of some of the smb packages i always install i imagine.  I forget what one.
[18:16] <Dr_Willis> isolat3dsh33p:  its findsmb I thijnk.. not findcd. :) lol.
[18:17] <vicious> DopeGhoti, nope didnt do the trick :(
[18:17] <vicious> DopeGhoti, just want those default config files back
[18:17] <isolat3dsh33p> Dr_Willis: I just hope it's not something malicious... :(
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> !find findsmb
[18:17] <Sinister>  is there a way to remove the numbers from files in console like 01222outside.jpg 012232.inside.jpg i just want inside.jpg outside.jpg i do it with the camera now but i have 15,000 pics anyway to mass do it ?
[18:17] <Lazydragoon> someone know why i can't accept term and agreement when i install a progrem ?
[18:17] <DopeGhoti> vicious: sterner measures, then:  apt-get --purge remove samba; apt-get  install samba
[18:17] <Dr_Willis> isolat3dsh33p:  findsmb here shows the ip of every smb server on my lan. its shoding the router here. Perhaps that will give some info
[18:18] <jsmidt>  I am trying to compile a program that requires config.h.  Which package contains this file?
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> Lazydragoon:  if using the command line.. use the tab keuy to select OK and hit enter
[18:18] <Dr_Willis> Lazydragoon:  NOT the mouse.
[18:18] <DopeGhoti> Sinister: it's easy to script as long as either there are no duplicated when digits are removed, or you don't care about losing such duplicated
[18:19] <plustax> I really need some help here guys
[18:19] <plustax> my mic doesnt work either
[18:19] <Lazydragoon> Dr_Willis umm its because i need to drop the arrow till the end to get the accept but he never appear
[18:19] <plustax> and my cam doesnt work in web applications
[18:19] <Dr_Willis> Lazydragoon: try pageup/pagedown
[18:19] <JonathanEllis> Im just restoring Ubuntu from a backup by copying the partition from a spare hard disk in gparted. The partition numbers will all be different as the dual boot config is different to when I made the backup. I will also need grub installed to the MBR as I have installed windows too. Can grub automatically generate menu.lst and add an entry for windows or must I do it by hand? Or is this a job for super grub disk?
[18:20] <trism> jsmidt: going to need more information, apt-file shows 100+ packages with config.h
[18:20] <jas72z> plustax have you enabled mic in sound settings
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> plustax:  flash in linux - im not sure can use any cams. see if it works in the cheese program.
[18:20] <isolat3dsh33p> Dr_Willis: If there's no IP for USER-PC, that means it's something that has no connection to my files or anything from me right? Hope i'm right.
[18:20] <DopeGhoti> Sinister: It's actually a one-liner, but again, you'd lose most files with duplicated names after digits were stripped
[18:20] <JonathanEllis> Oh. Its Jaunty by the way so I guess that might mean it wants to use grub 2?
[18:20] <Lazydragoon> ok i will
[18:20] <Dr_Willis> isolat3dsh33p:  i woudlent think so. Not sure where it could be comming from. Unless its a router..  You are not running anyting in virtualbox are youi?
[18:21] <plustax> Dr_Willis it does work in the cheese program, and I have seen many users use cams in flash based applications who used ubuntu or mint. They said that it just worked no problems for them.
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> plustax:  ive seen people ask that exact same question in here about flash/webcams.. and never seen a definitive answer.
[18:21] <Sinister> DopeGhoti, whats the one line ?
[18:21] <Dr_Willis> plustax:  check the forums perhaps thers some fix/tweak. or could be its an issue with specific cam make/models
[18:22] <barryberry> plustax I got a solution run a virtual machine :)
[18:22] <plustax> I think it might be.
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> !info renameutils | Sinister
[18:22] <plustax> My issue is...I'm a bit helpless with this kind of stuff. I'm afraid I will require some in depth assistance.
[18:22] <Lazydragoon> Dr_Willis not work :(
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> Sinister:  theres also several other renaming tools in the repos.  The rox file manager also has some neat rename features
[18:22] <plustax> I don't know the first thing about this stuff :(
[18:22] <isolat3dsh33p> Dr_Willis: I believe so, I'm not even sure what's virtualbox is. Is it possible if someone gets my IP and use it for DoS attack.
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> Lazydragoon:  what are you installing anyway>?
[18:22] <Lazydragoon> Dr_Willis wow in cedega
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> isolat3dsh33p:  if you are running ubuntu - most likely not. You could try a live cd and see if the unknown machine shows upwhere also.
[18:23] <unit3> Anyone know what desktop process keeps creating ~/Photos, which I don't want or need on my work desktop? :)
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> Lazydragoon:  check the wine app database, or the cedega forums wouild be the best bet.
[18:23] <DopeGhoti> Sinister: for a in "*.jpg" do mv $a `echo $a | sed 's/(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)//g'`; done
[18:23] <DopeGhoti> Sinister:correction:  for a in "*.jpg"; do mv $a `echo $a | sed 's/(0|1|2|3|4|5|6|7|8|9)//g'`; done
[18:24] <Lazydragoon> Dr_Willis i know but can't find anything about my problem so im bored lol
[18:24] <xnox> I made I live usb creator with space allocated to store files. I use the stick everyday. Is it possible to mount that filesystem on ubuntu so that I can copy files which were created in live session?
[18:24] <grawity> DopeGhoti: Uh. s/[0-9]//g
[18:24] <isolat3dsh33p> Dr_Willis: Ok dude, thanks for helping. Going to check it now. Btw, I'm sure it's not my router.
[18:24] <Lazydragoon> and cedega chan not answer to
[18:24] <barryberry> plustax do you have a dell laptop?
[18:24] <wilhart> http://pastebin.ca/1717231
[18:24] <grawity> DopeGhoti: Also, wildcards are not expanded inside quotes.
[18:25] <wilhart> sorry, anyone have problems with cairdo-dock and playing media when it's on?
[18:25] <Dr_Willis> Lazydragoon:  i dont play wow. so no idea. its a wine/cedega issue aparently  so not really a Ubuntu issue. you COULD try turning off compiz if its on.. and see if it works   then i guess
[18:25] <grawity> DopeGhoti: So for a in *.jpg; do mv "$a" "`echo "$a" | sed 's/[0-9]//g'`"; done
[18:25] <DopeGhoti> grawity: mm.  Still learning regexes.  And yes, they are; you need the quoted in fact, in the case that filenames have spaces in them.
[18:25] <Lazydragoon> Dr_Willis ok i will try that
[18:25] <wilhart> anyone??
[18:25] <boscop_> I have enough of ubuntu freezing because of vlc freaking out and allocating all the ram. how can I automatically kill the app that has allocated the most space when the overall ram usage exceeds a certain point??
[18:25] <grawity> DopeGhoti: Then quote the variable, not the wildcard.
[18:25] <hamzaatova1> hi - ive an awful problem with empathy - when i try to add an msn user i get the text changed to my address so i cant add - what is it?
[18:26] <grawity> DopeGhoti: That's the usual way of doing it. And no, wildcards aren't expanded inside quotes...
[18:26] <Dr_Willis> boscop_:  i recall KDE haveing a featurte like that ages ago.. but never seen a similer thing in gnome. (it was a kde panel applet i recall)
[18:26] <grawity> rain ~/public_html » echo "*.html"
[18:26] <grawity> *.html
[18:26] <kent> I have a question
[18:26] <Sinister> mv: missing file operand
[18:26] <boscop_> Dr_Willis: I'm using xfce
[18:26] <boscop_> Dr_Willis: isn't that independent of the windowing system?
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> boscop_:  it was a kde app i recalled called '
[18:27] <plustax> no I have an Asus laptop
[18:27] <DopeGhoti> grawity: just tested it, it does work, and if you don't quote the wildcard, 'this that.jpg' gets split into 'this' and 'that.jpg' when the for loop iterates.
[18:27] <wilhart> please?
[18:27] <Clueless2> Dr_Willis ... hi!
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> boscop_:  runaway process catcher'   - No ideawhat else may do a similer task.
[18:27] <Pici> DopeGhoti, grawity: wouldnt    rename 's/[0-9]*//' *.jpg    be simpler?
[18:27] <grawity> DopeGhoti: It wouldn't be if you quoted the "$a".
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> boscop_:  you could try some newer versions of vlc. could be theres some bug. Ive never had that issue with vlc and i use vlc constantluy.
[18:27] <Dr_Willis> Hello Clueless2
[18:27] <Clueless2> Dr_willis .. question for u .. so when downloading apps, i have to find apps. for Ubuntu development right? I just can't download any Linux based apps and install on my Ubuntu?
[18:28] <barryberry> plustax I would reccomend you write a forum on the ubuntu forum page
[18:28] <grawity> Pici: Maybe. I always forget that Debian comes with Perl's 'rename'.
[18:28] <Dr_Willis> Clueless2:  look for ubuntu packages for precompiled binaries.. but ive rarely needed to do that. Most all i need are in some sort of repo. or i can use source.
[18:28] <Seito> hi! anyone knows how to make huawei e156g 3g modem working on jaunty x64?
[18:28] <Clueless2> i see ...
[18:28] <tvaughn> if i want to run somethign with java in wine do i need to install java in wine?
[18:29] <kent> I am trying to apply my special effects and i am trying to use like the desk top cube and other special effects but now when i try to apply the effects it says "can not run those effects" and then i try to get that mac osx dock for Ubuntu but it says it cant run that either please help
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> Clueless2:  some programs come in binarie form in tar.gz or other archices (like firefox)  those may work. or may not
[18:29] <Clueless2> Dr_Willis ... how do update the "repo .." or where is it?
[18:29] <grawity> DopeGhoti: http://dpaste.com/134212/ :)
[18:29] <Clueless2> Dr_Willis .. some of them don't work.  I just found out
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> Clueless2:  depends on what you want. theres dozens of unofficial repos out now. and then theres the PPA repos. google has their own repo and many others exist
[18:29] <grawity> DopeGhoti: So you must be using a really weird shell then.
[18:29] <Clueless2> Dr_Willis .. it seems there is alot of apps for Ubuntu out there but I can't seem to find it
[18:30] <kent> oh why not this is ubuntu it should be compatible and work just fine
[18:30] <nbnds> anyone installed ubuntu on Lenovo G550 notebook?
[18:30] <kent> Why not?
[18:30] <Clueless2> Dr_Willis ..how do I use Ubuntu to find the extra repos .. or extra updated apps?
[18:30] <DopeGhoti> grawity: fair enough :)  </derail>
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> Clueless2:  what are you lookin for?   The tool 'ubuntu tweak' lets  You add a great many unofficial  repos for things like wine, and so forth with juszt a few clicks.
[18:31] <kent> i am running Ubuntu on a Dell optiplex GX260 so it is kinda old though too
[18:31] <boomernang> nbnds, what problem are you having?
[18:31] <Dr_Willis> Clueless2:  system -> admin -> software source   and enable all the ubuntu based ones.. then its a matter of finding any others you may need and adding them
[18:31] <Clueless2> yes that i am looking for
[18:31] <qwyeth> DopeGhoti, when I specify credentials with -o user=username it mounts.  The problem isn't reaching the share, it's that the "Guest access" checkbox doesn't work.
[18:31] <kent> but it run Ubuntu fine
[18:31] <kubanc> inw hich folder do i save certificate .cer in ubuntu
[18:31] <Seito> guys! anyone knows about how to make huawei e156g usb stick working on jaunty x64?
[18:31] <grawity> kubanc: What type of certificate is it?
[18:31] <kent> maby it is because i installed ubuntu inside windows
[18:32] <kubanc> grawity, it's .cer type
[18:32]  * grawity facepalms
[18:32] <kent> wait no i tryed this on another hardrive and it still didnt let me get some effects
[18:32] <crypt-00> hi im getting this error when trying to play *any* video file  with VLC "Streaming / Transcoding failed: VLC could not open the encoder."
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> !ccsm | kent
[18:32] <riverbird> unit3, can't find it right off, but there is a preference tab to deselect it.  maybe off the desktop somewhere .. keep looking
[18:33] <caja2_> What is /dev/usblp0 ?
[18:33] <nbnds> boomernang: i want to configure the brightness key shortcuts
[18:33] <Clueless2> dr_willis "Enter the complete APT line of the repository that you want to add as source"
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> caja2_:  a usb printer - i belive.
[18:33] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: that sounds like it might be your printer!
[18:33] <hamzaatova1> hi - ive an awful problem with empathy - when i try to add an msn user i get the text changed to my address so i cant add - what is it?
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> Clueless2:  yes.. thats how its normally done.
[18:33] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, it is
[18:33] <Clueless2> how do i know what to put on there?
[18:33] <caja2_> lol
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> !apt | Clueless2
[18:33] <BluesKaj> how does one get the toolbar options like configure etc back in quassel ?
[18:33] <beefly> can i get help with my wireless please?
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> Clueless2:  its normally mentiooned at the web site about the repository. see the medibuntu repoistiory for examples
[18:33] <Dr_Willis> !medibuntu | Clueless2
[18:34] <Clueless2> k
[18:34] <barryberry> Clueless2 synaptic has a lot of software
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> Clueless2:  theres also a command line tool  that can add them.
[18:34] <Dr_Willis> Clueless2:  i normally add medibuntu and a few other little ppa repos.. and thats about all i do
[18:34] <barryberry> Clueless2 what applications you looking for
[18:35] <Dr_Willis> i Never seem to be able to get the 'getdeb' repos to work. :()
[18:35] <Pici> Clueless2: Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/9.10/add-applications/C/installing.html for help installing aplications in Ubuntu 9.10
[18:35] <qwyeth> !ask | beefly
[18:35] <boomernang> nbnds, do other function + key combos work? or are all functions not working?
[18:35] <Clueless2> pici...thanks
[18:35] <isolat3dsh33p> Dr_Willis: Weird, after I reboot, it's gone. :/
[18:35] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, but how come "echo test > /dev/usblp0" doesn't work?
[18:36] <beefly> I can't connect to a new wireless network
[18:36] <qwyeth> beefly, have you ever connected wirelessly on this computer before?
[18:36] <beefly> Yes
[18:36] <qwyeth> is it a laptop?
[18:36] <barryberry> beefy whats your chipset?
[18:36] <beefly> yes
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> isolat3dsh33p:  ive found samba to be.. weird. :)
[18:37] <Lazydragoon> i got item at the top in the middle and supose to be at the right site or the task bar someone have a ida hot to put it back ?
[18:37] <qwyeth> beefly, does your laptop have either a physical switch or an Fn-key combination that might have accidentally turned the wireless off?
[18:37] <isolat3dsh33p> Dr_Willis: Hahaha, anyway, thanks again dude. :D
[18:37] <nbnds> boomernang: volume up/down fn keys work properly. i have LED background display
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> Lazydragoon:  right click on it theres a move menu item. be sure its unlocked
[18:37] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: try cat > /dev/usblp0
[18:37] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: type a few things, then press ^L, and then ^D
[18:37] <isolat3dsh33p> All the sound problem also disappeared as well.. Hohoho
[18:38] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, ok
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> DopeGhoti:  OLD skool  way to write a letter. :)
[18:38] <barryberry> I got the athrous5007 wireless working ha
[18:38] <DopeGhoti> Dr_Willis: =D
[18:38] <Ace42> Hmmm, my kernel version is 2.6.31-16-generic; is that right for 9.1 karmic koala release?
[18:38] <Threetimes> Hi, will the KÖNIG CMP-USBVG5 USB 2.0 AUDIO/VIDEO GRABBER work in ubuntu? http://www.nedis.nl/ARTLDetail.php?ARTLID=1108956
[18:38] <beefly> Chipset not sure, is there a cmd I can use to find out? .... There is an fn key but I don't think that's the problem
[18:39] <rkansal> join #punjabiroots
[18:39] <rkansal> help
[18:39] <qwyeth> beefly, when you click on your network icon, do you see the wireless network, and if not do you see any others?
[18:39] <jj77> rkansal: whats that? punja***
[18:39] <rkansal> #help
[18:39] <beefly> I see the network and one other
[18:39] <Pici> rkansal: its /join #channel
[18:39] <Lazydragoon> Dr_Willis well the other have a move option but not this one is the sound icon and wireless icon
[18:39] <qwyeth> beefly, what happens when you click on the network you're trying to connect to?
[18:40] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, no go
[18:40] <Crewsr3> I'm having trouble with checksums not working.  I have a portable hard drive on NTSF and I want to pull a very large file from.  I ran a checksum on the hard drive made a copy on my main computer and the checksums don't match.  I ran a second checksum on the portable hard drive and second checksum on the original file is diffrent.  Why would a checksum on the source come up diffrent?
[18:40] <OmniCitadel> greetings all... being new to linux... 1.5 years and counting, I am having an issue with eve-online running in wine... I have researched this extensively and the one last glimmer is that ubuntu makes some kookie changes to the kernels which "might" be to blame, and thus what is advised is to upgrade the kernel to the latest kernel.org stable release... I need to know the best way which is easiest
[18:40] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: darn. I was hoping it would act as an lpr :p
[18:40] <caja2_> hehehe
[18:40] <caja2_> shoot
[18:40] <boomernang> nbnds, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=673946   - that should help you. although can you pastebin the output of this - cat /proc/acpi/video/VGA/LCD/brightness
[18:40] <Threetimes> Hi, will the KÖNIG CMP-USBVG5 usb 2.0 audio/video grabber work in ubuntu? I haven't bought it yet... http://www.nedis.nl/ARTLDetail.php?ARTLID=1108956
[18:41] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: you said you got CUPS working with it, yes?  can you "echo asdf | lpr" ?
[18:41] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, yes
[18:41] <DopeGhoti> !hcl | Threetimes
[18:41] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, that worked
[18:41] <qwyeth> beefly, are there any other computers that can connect to this access point?  Have you tried rebooting the wireless router?
[18:42] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: so the CUPS wrapping is at least working; that's something at least
[18:42] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: your app just won't play nice with CUPS though, will it? :-/
[18:42] <M1TE5H> can anybody know how to add user through terminal with admin privilege i have root access
[18:42] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, no, it won't
[18:42] <caja2_> boomer
[18:42] <barryberry> qwyeth I would think you would get the chipset ha and google it...
[18:42] <caja2_> bummer*
[18:42] <nbnds> boomernang: thank you
[18:43] <Threetimes> DopeGhoti: Konig isn't in the list at all...
[18:43] <qwyeth> barryberry, the second question I asked him after 'is it turned on' was 'did it work before'
[18:43] <OmniCitadel> any one have any advice for an easy way to upgrade to the latest kernel.org kernel?
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> Lazydragoon:  thats sounds liek the 'system tray' or whatever its called its a 'widit' that holds the special icons. it should have a little handel bar near the left taht has those menus..
[18:43] <kaie> hello. I will travel to a country with very little bandwidth. I will bring a ubuntu system with me. I wonder, how can I ensure I take all of the software with me that I'll potentially want to install? the installer CDs are only a subset and are built around the concept of on demand downloading
[18:43] <DopeGhoti> M1TE5H: Are you asking how, with admin privileges, to add a user, or are you asking how to add a user with admin priviliges?
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> !resetpanels | Lazydragoon
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> Lazydragoon:  its all about where you click exactly ti get the differne tmenus
[18:44] <qwyeth> barryberry, we haven't ruled out a problem with the network hardware.  I suspect his ubuntu might be working fine
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> bye all
[18:44] <DopeGhoti> kaie: look into apt-mirror perhaps, and bring a complete repo with you?
[18:44] <Lazydragoon> ok that work thanks
[18:44]  * caja2_ sighs
[18:44] <hamzaatova1> i want to chat with someone - what platform there is if not all the empathy options and not skype??????/
[18:44] <qwyeth> barryberry, also, he sees the ssid in his list, which means ubuntu detects it and the antenna works
[18:45] <M1TE5H> can anybody know how 2 add user through terminal in ubuntu 8.10
[18:45] <grawity> M1TE5H: 'sudo adduser'
[18:45] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: hamzaatova1 pidgin?
[18:46] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: oops, that wasn't supposed to have your name on it :/
[18:46] <caja2_> lol
[18:46] <Threetimes> Hi, will the KÖNIG CMP-USBVG5 usb 2.0 audio/video grabber work in ubuntu? I haven't bought it yet... http://www.nedis.nl/ARTLDetail.php?ARTLID=1108956 It's not in the official HCL, but will it work?!
[18:46] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: anyhow, I'll keep pondering what can be done, but I'm drawing a blank at the moment :/
[18:46] <Crewsr3> I ran two different check sums on the same file in the same location and they are coming up differently.  Can someone help me figure out what is going on
[18:46] <beefly1> Working now, thanks!
[18:47] <grawity> M1TE5H: Add the new user to the 'admin' group. And don't PM me.
[18:47] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, lol thanks man!
[18:48] <M1TE5H> how to add admin group
[18:48] <dbugger> Hey guys! Can anyone tell me if there's a way to put a background image on gedit?
[18:48] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, one question. Is lp0 a port?
[18:48] <Compost> Howdy folks
[18:48] <caja2_> or usblp0
[18:49] <grawity> caja2_: lp0 should be the zeroth printer port (LPT in Windows)
[18:49] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: lp0 should be a parallel port (compare LPT1: in Windowsland)
[18:49] <caja2_> ok
[18:49] <caja2_> got it
[18:49] <IcyJ> Is there a way to get CUPS to start at boot?  I am getting a "The CUPS scheduler is not running" message until I run "sudo service cups start"
[18:50] <grawity> IcyJ: Try 'sudo update-rc.d cups defaults'
[18:50] <DopeGhoti> IcyJ: see update-rc.d
[18:50] <Threetimes> Hi, will the KÖNIG CMP-USBVG5 usb 2.0 audio/video grabber work in ubuntu? I haven't bought it yet... http://www.nedis.nl/ARTLDetail.php?ARTLID=1108956 It's not in the official HCL, but will it work?!
[18:51] <IcyJ> grawity, DopeGhoti:  When I do that, I get the message: System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/cups already exist.
[18:51] <riverbird> Threetimes, check the supported hardware lists in the forums
[18:51] <caja2_> is tere a way to stop CUPS?
[18:52] <Threetimes> riverbird: thanks!
[18:52] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: /etc/init.d/cups stop
[18:52] <epinky> Threetimes: if it's not in HCL, probably not
[18:52] <Compost> I need help solving a dependency problem with Ubuntu 9.10 I get when trying ot install xdraft 0.12 debian package. The dependency error I get is from gdk-imlib11 and I can't install gdk-imlib11 because libglib1.2ldbl (>= 1.2.10-18). The developer of xdraft says  Ubuntu renamed glib to glibdbl or something. What can I do about this, please help me if you can. I need to use this app for a school project
[18:52] <caja2_> d'oh for me
[18:53] <grawity> !test > me
[18:53] <barryberry> threetimes if its based on windows ce then no
[18:53] <grawity> hrm.
[18:53] <barryberry> threetimes your url wad dead
[18:53] <barryberry> was*
[18:53] <crypt-00> hi im getting this error when trying to play *any* video file  with VLC "Streaming / Transcoding failed: VLC could not open the encoder."
[18:53] <d[a]ssou1i> i wonder why did most of my menus disappear
[18:54] <d[a]ssou1i> pidgin, skype, gimp, eclipse, the menus are all gone yet the apps function perfectly
[18:54] <Ramosa> i have a 6GB windows restore partition at /dev/sda1 .. when I install my linux root partition, do I put it in the beginning or end? The restore partition is activated from bios
[18:54] <DopeGhoti> d[a]ssou1i: press apt+F2, and in the popup, type gnome-panel
[18:54] <DopeGhoti> d[a]ssou1i: alt-F2 rather
[18:54] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, I disabled CUPS and did "cat /dev/usblp0" and got a bunch of  characters, does that mean I'm GETTING from the printer?
[18:55] <d[a]ssou1i> DopeGhoti: no application menus are missing
[18:55] <kaie> DopeGhoti, thank you very much for pointing me to apt-mirror
[18:55] <d[a]ssou1i> DopeGhoti: not the panel, the menus inside the application
[18:55] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: indeed, yes, which makes (a sort of) sense, what with it being a USB device and all.  When you're testing, you want to cat > /dev/usblp0 :)
[18:55] <DopeGhoti> kaie: my pleasure
[18:55] <DopeGhoti> d[a]ssou1i: hmm, interesting.
[18:55] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, it didn't work.
[18:55] <Compost> crypt-00: do you have the ubuntu-restricted-extras package?
[18:56] <DopeGhoti> tomstoms: phooey.
[18:56] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, the command told me my kernel doesn't support ACPI?
[18:56] <jaik> Good evening. I've installed BerkeleyDB. But on each compiling, I've to show up the libs manually: "g++ main.cpp -o dbApp -ldb_cxx-4.7 -I /usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.7/include/". Does anyone know, how I can include them in the system?
[18:56] <crypt-00> Compost, yes.
[18:56] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, it's weird, because I can invoke suspend by using the battery applet.
[18:57] <rbehr> I am running ubuntu 9.1. I am having difficulty with the Evolution Email. Is there another email client that would work better with Exchange 2003?
[18:57] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, woooh
[18:57] <DopeGhoti> tomstoms: try pm-suspend perhaps?
[18:57] <caja2_> DopeGhoti,  got it working man
[18:57] <caja2_> thanks a lot
[18:57] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, I was just about to say that, lol.
[18:57] <tomstoms> BRB
[18:57] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: seriously?  Yay!
[18:57] <caja2_> DopeGhoti, the thing was that CUPS was taking over the usblp0 and assigning it to it's own queue or something.
[18:58] <Compost> crypt-00: then I don't know...
[18:58] <epinky> rbehr: try Thunderbird, it's an alternative to Evolution
[18:58] <Threetimes> barryberry: better url: http://blog.worldofkonig.com/audio-video/cmp-usbvg5/
[18:58] <rbehr> I am running ubuntu 9.1. I am having difficulty with the Evolution Email. Is there another email client that would work better with Exchange 2003? Also is there a way I can install MS Internet Explorer on Ubuntu?
[18:58] <DopeGhoti> caja2_: that makes sense as well. Glad you'reup and running! :D
[18:58] <Threetimes> Hi, will the KÖNIG CMP-USBVG5 usb 2.0 audio/video grabber work in ubuntu? I haven't bought it yet... http://blog.worldofkonig.com/audio-video/cmp-usbvg5/ It's not in the official HCL, but will it work?!
[18:58] <musti> cześć wszystkim
[18:58] <erUSUL> !pl
[18:59] <musti> ok.
[18:59] <cntlfreak> hey all
[18:59] <cntlfreak> i need some help with accessing a research paper, i was wondering if any one of you could assist.
[18:59] <cntlfreak> its on oxford journal
[19:00] <erUSUL> rbehr: eolution is the only mail client in linux that supports exchange afaik
[19:00] <erUSUL> !ot | cntlfreak
[19:00] <Lorra> Hey, I  use KDE 4, ?would someone know how to get Amarok recognize keyboard shortcuts when it is minimized in the traybar
[19:00] <Lorra> ?
[19:00] <cntlfreak> i know but i figured that there may be ppl form univ here who have access.
[19:01] <rbehr> Thank you.... Is there a way I can install IE in Ubuntu???
[19:01] <blakkheim> rbehr: why would you do that?
[19:01] <DopeGhoti> Lorra: If you don't get an answer in here, you could try #kubuntu, wherein most folks probably use KDE, proportionally speaking
[19:01] <erUSUL> rbehr: ie4linux; or wine
[19:01] <erUSUL> !wine | rbehr
[19:01] <erUSUL> !appdb > rbehr
[19:02] <rbehr> I am working with SharePoint and Firefox does not give me the options that IE 8 has with SharePOint
[19:02] <DopeGhoti> rbehr: There's an FF plugin that can have FF pretend to be IE, so that Microsoft sites don't dumb themselves down.
[19:02] <DopeGhoti> tomstoms: any luck?
[19:02] <rbehr> thank you:)
[19:03] <Achoth> Hi. I tried to reinstall Samba and ended up making it broken, so it isn't installed or removed. And when I try to install it, it just fails and complains about /usr/bin/dpkg. How do I completely remove all traces of Samba so it can be installed again?
[19:03] <zenlunatic> rbehr, blame MS
[19:03] <IcyJ> Does anyone know how to get CUPS to run at boot?  sudo update-rc.d cups defaults did not fix it.  If I run "sudo service cups start" it will start.
[19:03] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, I stopped GDM then did (in TTY1) pm-suspend. It suspended fine, but the same thing happened when I tried to resume. A blinking cursor with no HDD acitivity and no response from keyboard.
[19:03] <d[a]ssou1i> In some of my applications, I've lost the File/Edit .. menus ...
[19:03] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, maybe there's a way to use /etc/pm/config.d/ and tell it to unload a module first?
[19:03] <zenlunatic> IcyJ, have you tried the web gui
[19:03] <DopeGhoti> tomstoms: check the computer's BIOS' power managements settings; there might be something to tweak in there
[19:03] <epinky> IcyJ: try "sudo rcconf" , it's not installed by default
[19:03] <Tiders-> WHere do the ssh-server conf files go natively
[19:04] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, it gives me the option to enable or disable ACPI on the BIOS, nothing else.
[19:04] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, it's a very basic BIOS.
[19:04] <DopeGhoti> IcyJ: you could add 'sleep 10 && /etc/init.d/cups start' to /etc/rc.local
[19:04] <IcyJ> epinky: command not found
[19:04] <blakkheim> Tiders-: /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[19:04] <epinky> IcyJ: it's not installed by default: sudo apt-get install rcconf
[19:04] <DopeGhoti> tomstoms: try changing it to the other setting?  As for editing /etc/pm/*, I've not meddled with those settings, so you know as much as I as far as that's concerned.
[19:05] <turtle__> cole me down on the panny sty
[19:05] <sebsebseb> hi
[19:06] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, no problem.
[19:06] <IcyJ> epinky: CUPS is marked when I run rcconf
[19:06] <tomstoms> DopeGhoti, thank you either way.
[19:06] <DopeGhoti> tomstoms: glad to be of service
[19:06] <IcyJ> zenlunitic:  I have not tried the web gui, the address must be something like: localhost:xxx ?
[19:07] <DopeGhoti> IcyJ: did rc.local not work?
[19:07] <IcyJ> DopeGhoti: correct
[19:07] <dakeyras> hi
[19:07] <dakeyras> is there any french support ?
[19:07] <Pici> !fr | dakeyras
[19:08] <IcyJ> DopeGhoti: I got the following msg: update-rc.d: warning: cups stop runlevel arguments (0 1 6) do not match LSB Default-Stop values (1)
[19:08] <IcyJ>  System start/stop links for /etc/init.d/cups already exist.
[19:08] <dakeyras> thanks ;)
[19:08] <DopeGhoti> IcyJ: hmm.
[19:08] <nvme> how do i make sure that a partition can only be mounted RO ?
[19:09] <DopeGhoti> nvme: since root can mount anything, that's hard to do
[19:09] <nvme> DopeGhoti, right i meant through GUI / other programs
[19:09] <DopeGhoti> nvme: if it's in /etc/fstab, with the auto, user, ro options, only root could remount it rw
[19:10] <nvme> DopeGhoti, okay cool
[19:10] <Achoth> Hi. When I tried to uninstall Samba something went wrong so it is neither installed or removed, and I can't install Samba! How do I remove it completely?
[19:10] <Anzo> hello all I am having a busy box error on my 9.10 install. Happened after update. System wont boot, says it gave up waiting for boot device
[19:11] <isolat3dsh33p> !firefox
[19:11] <nvme> DopeGhoti, do you know if i need to have the mount directory pre-made ?
[19:11] <DopeGhoti> Achoth: apt-get --purge remove samba
[19:12] <DopeGhoti> nvme: yes, the mount point must exist before somethign can be mounted to it
[19:12] <Anzo> says /dev/sdb1 doesnt exist... I only have one hd so does that extension mean that its looking to boot from an external
[19:12] <isolat3dsh33p> !firefox -remote http://www.google.com
[19:12] <isolat3dsh33p> =_=
[19:12] <epinky> Achoth: sudo apt-get remove --purge samba-common
[19:13] <kaie> BTW, I had a live-usb-stick with an overlay. I installed the cryptsetup package. This recreated kernel boot/initrd files. afterwards my live stick failed to boot with a panic
[19:13] <erUSUL> Anzo: edit the grub entry for your boot kernel and put the correct root device (you can do it in grub )
[19:13] <isolat3dsh33p> !find iwconfig
[19:14] <IcyJ> No one know why CUPS won't start at boot?
[19:15] <Achoth> epinky: Worked perfectly! Thanks!
[19:15] <graviton> IcyJ: update-rc.d cups defaults
[19:15] <Anzo> erusul i may need your help with that if you wouldnt mind
[19:15] <DopeGhoti> IcyJ: check your logs, maybe it's throwing an error that explains the problem
[19:15] <nvme> DopeGhoti, does ntfs/ntfs-3g specify the same thing in fstab ?
[19:15] <erUSUL> !grub2
[19:15] <IcyJ> gravitron: tried that
[19:15] <IcyJ> DopeGhoti: where would the logs be located?
[19:15] <epinky> !yay | Achoth
[19:15] <DopeGhoti> IcyJ: /var/log/
[19:15] <graviton> IcyJ: And you can start it manually after boot?
[19:15] <manish> i have a dual boot setup with win.xp & xubuntu9.10....i installed a tranformation pack for win.7 in xp,and it replaced some system files which i will now have to repair by cd, will it effect xubuntu in any way?
[19:15] <IcyJ> gravitron: yes
[19:16] <graviton> Well, then I guess there's only the logs left, as DopeGhoti suggested
[19:16] <DopeGhoti> manish: you may have to reinstall GRUB if Windows klobbers the boot sector which it is wont to do.
[19:17] <erUSUL> Anzo: press "esc" when booting to enter edit mode of grub
[19:17] <manish> DopeGhoti: how can i do that...i'm a linux newbie,so...
[19:18] <strywgr> !vlc
[19:18] <epaphus> Hello,l when encrypting the laptop with "use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM" How strong is this encryption?
[19:18] <fl0w> If I want to install ncurses, on a fresh Ubuntu 9.10 setup - what package should I choose? I'd like to use ncurses for both Python development and usage? libncurses5-dev?
[19:18] <Anzo> erUSUL the link you provided will it have info about editing the grub? the grub2 link that is
[19:18] <DopeGhoti> manish: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-restore-grub-boot-loader-after-installing-windows.html
[19:19] <IcyJ> DopeGhoti, gravitron: what logs files would information relevant to CUPS?  /var/log/cups/access_log shows OKs with no errors
[19:19] <alazyworkaholic> I ran sudo update-grub2 but it didn't probe/detect a new linux OS I just installed (without bootloader) How can I get the os-prober to do its job?
[19:19] <erUSUL> Anzo: you can use the Recover Grub 2 via LiveCD intructions
[19:19] <manish> DopeGhoti: thanks
[19:19] <DopeGhoti> manish: see also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling GRUB 2
[19:19] <DopeGhoti> manish: quite welcome.  That'll ve €8. ;)
[19:19] <Ramosa> if a bootloader is installed to hd0, what does it mean? hd0 is not a partition like /dev/sdaX ?
[19:20] <Anzo> erUSUL lets hope this work
[19:20] <Anzo> Thanks
[19:20] <DopeGhoti> Ramosa: hd0 ≡ /dev/sda ≠ /dev/sda1
[19:20] <manish> i'm broke DopeGhoti..  :(
[19:20] <DopeGhoti> manish: it was worth a try :)
[19:21] <mrqismrx> how can I set so that fusion-icon thingy runs at start? I know that I can add applications by preferences and startup applications but what command should I write? and any additional options to that command?
[19:22] <edyn> hey, im looking for a good site survey tool or someother tool that can plot a line graph of my wifi signal, any suggestions?
[19:23] <DopeGhoti> edyn: there's a pretty good app for Android phones, but I don't know about a desktop implementation :)
[19:23] <Ramosa> DopeGhoti, well it's important if its /sda or /sda1 .. my sda is ATA Hitachi and sda1 is my windows vista restore partition.. i can't mess with that one
[19:23] <trism> alazyworkaholic: if grub isn't detecting it, you may be better off specifying the entry manually in /etc/grub.d/40_custom
[19:24] <Shogoot> Anyone feel competetnt to help me out on a problem i got using openoffice CALC? --- hi people. wondering if anyone can help me getting a thing right in a spreadsheet.....trying to use a checkbox to have value 0 (on) and 800 (off) the problem is that the cell i take the value from changes to ´800 and i got a formula using that cell and it dont regonize the (´800) and gives a error... How can i get the box not to give the value that ´at the star
[19:24] <alazyworkaholic> I ran sudo /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober but it only found a pre-existing XP install. I just installed fedora 12, without its bootloader because I wanted to add it from ubuntu. What do I have to do to make grub2 find fedora?
[19:24] <alazyworkaholic> trism: sorry, I've no idea what lines to put there. Can you help?
[19:24] <rootUser_> Hello people, i have an terrible issue with ubuntu, the /var/log/apache2/error.log does not logs correctly, it only shows the error about fivicon.ico
[19:25] <linxeh> Shogoot: tried #openoffice.org ?
[19:25] <ctmjr> mrqismrx: fusion-icon is the command to launch it
[19:25] <mrqismrx> ctmjr, ok thanks
[19:25] <Besogon> Who is boot for ask question?
[19:25] <epaphus> Hello,l when encrypting the laptop with "use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM" How strong is this encryption?
[19:26] <Shogoot> linxeh sure have, with ontervals of 30 mins since about 16:30 hrs
[19:26] <mod3st> epaphus: AES afaik
[19:26] <linxeh> Shogoot: heh ok :)
[19:26] <mhoney> what file do I edit to manually configure the ethernet interfaces on Karmic?
[19:26] <ctmjr> !bot > Besogon
[19:26] <epaphus> mod3st, where can i know for sure?
[19:26] <epinky> mhoney: /etc/network/interfaces
[19:26] <Besogon> !bot
[19:26] <Guest94458> hii
[19:26] <trism> alazyworkaholic: there is an example here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#User-defined Entries , you should copy the menuentry "Ubuntu*" { } lines and try to set the correct values for the location of your fedora kernel, initrd and root partition
[19:27] <mhoney> Epinky:  you sure?  Dont think that is valid for 9.10 anymore
[19:27] <mod3st> epaphus: Someone else should take this if you're using the installer.  The manual setup instructions here give more detail on the possible ciphers:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedFilesystemLVMHowto
[19:27] <epinky> mhoney: yes, I'm sure
[19:27] <mhoney> k thx
[19:27] <trism> alazyworkaholic: ignore the echo and cat lines, 40_custom is set up by default to just copy the menuentries you add to grub.cfg
[19:28] <dovik_> screen -r
[19:28] <linxeh> Shogoot: so how did you set up the checkbox etc ?
[19:28] <ctmjr> !msgthebot > Besogon
[19:29] <Besogon> !msgthebot
[19:29] <Besogon> ?
[19:29] <mod3st> Is there any way to treat *multiple files* as a single block device when doing a loopback mount?
[19:29] <trism> alazyworkaholic: after that just sudo update-grub; and it will be added to grub.cfg. Be aware that in grub 2, hard drive numbers still start at 0, but partitions now start at 1, so if the boot partition of fedora was /dev/sda3, it would be (hd0,3)
[19:29] <isolat3dsh33p> !emerald
[19:30] <kostkon> !test
[19:30] <Besogon> !repository
[19:30] <ctmjr> Besogon: ubottu is the info bot but it must be on break
[19:30] <mod3st> e.g. I have  /mnt/disk1/dd_image.1  and  /mnt/disk2/dd_image.2    and I want to mount dd_image.* as a loopback block device
[19:31] <epaphus> mod3st, hmm that link describes the encryption done with cryptsetup. I need to know how strong is the ubuntu encryption.. i think its 256? or 128?
[19:31] <tilen> hi i have some problem with dhcp dhcp dont wake up my internet on 9.04 dhcp put up my interner know i install 9.10 and have this problem
[19:31] <colin__> Hi, I've bought a USB network adapter but Ubuntu does not recognzie it. How do I mak Ubuntu recognize my hardware?
[19:31] <mod3st> epaphus: Right, the installer should do it that way, just without showing you :)  I'm not an expert, but I would be very surprised if it weren't AES-128
[19:32] <qwyeth> colin__, what is the make and model of your USB network adapter?
[19:32] <Clueless2> can I use Ubuntu to serve a "router" instead of using the hardware router itself?  is it possible?  If it is, is there a link on how to ?
[19:32] <mod3st> (not an expert on ubuntu's installer; i'm pretty well-versed in crypto)
[19:32] <sebsebseb> colin__: For wireless?
[19:32] <epaphus> mod3st, is 128 better then 256 ?
[19:32] <colin__> To Qwyeth, Engenius EUB 9706. The chip is Ralink based.
[19:33] <colin__> Yes.
[19:33] <mod3st> epaphus: AES-128 is much faster than AES-256.  AES-256 is more secure, but it's not necessary to have that strong
[19:33] <mod3st> really, 256 is overkill
[19:33] <mod3st> no matter *what* you're doing on there :)
[19:33] <colin__> To sebsebseb and qwyeth, I have Ubuntu 9.10.
[19:33] <epaphus> I need to encrypt it using AES 258. not 128
[19:33] <epaphus> :(
[19:33] <qwyeth> colin__, are you Brin dherbe?
[19:33] <ctmjr> Clueless2: not ubuntu per say but linux can be set up as a router google linux as a router should give you something
[19:34] <sebsebseb> colin__: Not all hardware just works on Ubuntu, because of lack of manufacture support.  It might just work in another distro though.  It also might work in a previous version of Ubuntu, because certain hardware that used to just work in 9.04, doesn't in 9.10.  Also you might be able to figure out how to configure it and get it working, but for new users this won't be easy.
[19:34] <sebsebseb> !wireless |  colin__
[19:34] <Clueless2> ctmjr ..thanks for your input.  I'll do that right now
[19:34] <mod3st> epaphus: You can, you just have to manually set up using the instructions provided.  AFAIK, the installer won't let you choose.  Is there a reason why you need AES-256?
[19:34] <epaphus> mod3st, according to this http://www.cjlinux.com/system/installation/how-to-install-ubuntu-with-an-encrypted-file-system.html  it is 256 AES
[19:34] <colin__> To qwyeth. Yes. I posted a message on ubuntu forums, but I founded my drivers but don't know how to install them so Ubuntu could recognize my hardware.
[19:35] <Besogon> What's the hell with ubottu...( How can I make loval repository?
[19:35] <mod3st> epaphus: So I'm wrong!  Thanks for double-checking.
[19:35] <DopeGhoti> Basso: apt-mirror :)
[19:35] <qwyeth> colin__, you might have a hard time with this device.  It's very new, and there isn't a lot of information about it available.  I'll dig for a bit and see if I can find anything useful; I wish you luck.
[19:36] <isolat3dsh33p> !emerald
[19:36] <MTecknology> !compiz
[19:36] <ctmjr> sebsebseb: the bot is lagging pretty bad might have something to do with the problems freenode is having
[19:36] <xrandr> !lag
[19:36] <sebsebseb> ctmjr: it said that the bot left
[19:36] <colin__> Thank you  very much. Just another question. I was just wondering if it was possible to make Ubuntu recogzine any Ralink based devices?
[19:37] <sebsebseb> colin__: depends on the device
[19:37] <sebsebseb> I guess
[19:37] <Pici> Please give the bot a few minutes to sync before requesting factoids.
[19:37] <qwyeth> colin__, there are plenty of ralink chipset devices that work with ubuntu...
[19:37] <ctmjr> sebsebseb: oh ok i turned off join/parts do to all the netsplits
[19:37] <mod3st> colin__: last time I checked, support was pretty good for normal stuff (802.11b/g)
[19:37] <raf_> hola
[19:37] <plustax> Can someone help me get my remote desktop working
[19:37] <plustax> it says it's only available for local connection
[19:38]  * xrandr mourns in silent contemplation the loss of ubottu :)
[19:38] <plustax> But I want to have a friend from quite out of the area get into it.
[19:38] <sebsebseb> ctmjr: oh ok,  well yes it will flood with peoples name when they leave or re join, but  it could be useful to see that, so you know if things are working properly or not
[19:38] <colin__> That's exactly what I have. A EUB 9706 wireless N USB adapter, Ralink based chip (802.11 b/g/n)
[19:39] <jose__> join #mapserv
[19:39] <qwyeth> colin__,  this device isn't a normal wireless adapter...  it's designed to make configuration in windows easy; it seems that when you push the button to activate it, it's supposed to pop up something in windows that circumvents typical configuration steps
[19:39] <qwyeth> that might mean that without the full-fledged windows driver you're hosed
[19:39] <sebsebseb> qwyeth: so he trys Ndiswrapper ?
[19:39] <alazyworkaholic> trism: thanks a lot for your help, but I don't know how/where to get the correct lines for root=UUID=(bunch of numbers) for the Fedora install. Any idea?
[19:39] <colin__> I think the button you pushed is supposed to connect to your router.
[19:40] <colin__> or modem.
[19:40] <isolat3dsh33p> !emerald
[19:40] <mod3st> Man, never buy a Drobo.  Hopefully I can save someone else a headache by saying that.
[19:40] <Ace42> do .ko files in /lib/kernel/drivers take precedence over drivers found elsewhere?  If I wipe them, will they get rewritten or rebuilt?  Or if I delete them, will I be in big trouble?
[19:40] <qwyeth> colin__, but it advertises that the button is supposed to also handle encrypted connections.  For that to work there would have to be a way to enter that information from the keyboard
[19:41] <mistergibson> anyone else having trouble with vlc.  Did a fresh install on Karmic and its all screwed up.
[19:41] <colin__> So, it would be a heck of a job to make it work?
[19:41] <sebsebseb> colin__: If it's new enough I guess you can return it, get your money back, and buy a device that is supported properly by Ubuntu
[19:41] <mistergibson> won't even really start, have to dump the proc to quit
[19:41] <mistergibson> err... start properly
[19:41] <riverbird> colin__, i  think there are some general n network support deficincies
[19:41] <colin__> Support deficincies with 9.10?
[19:42] <sebsebseb> colin__: wireless has always been a problem area, for Ubuntu
[19:42] <sebsebseb> ,becasue of lack of manufacture support
[19:42] <riverbird> just the 'n' type networks
[19:42] <crypt-00> hi im getting this error when trying to play *any* video file  with VLC "Streaming / Transcoding failed: VLC could not open the encoder."
[19:43] <colin__> So, with any other usb adapter, there is a risk I could get problems?
[19:43] <qwyeth> I'm betting on yes.
[19:43] <riverbird> colin__, what are you trying to do?  just have wifi or ..??
[19:43] <jelly-bean1> is emerald part of compiz?
[19:43] <colin__> Yeah. My computer is old and does not have a wifi card. I just want to get wireless internet on my laptop.
[19:43] <The_Toxic_Mite> jelly-bean1: Emerald is a window decorator, and isn't part of Compiz AFAIK
[19:44] <sebsebseb> colin__: oh right
[19:44] <trism> alazyworkaholic: you can use sudo blkid /dev/sda3 (whatever the name of the partition with fedora root is) to get the UUID
[19:44] <qwyeth> colin__, there are lots and lots of wireless dongles that Just Work in 9.10..  if you buy another you'll probably be fine
[19:44] <insm0d> hey guys, quick queston about setting drive order
[19:44] <riverbird> colin__, how about a pc card?  i have an old machine with a d-ling gwl-650.  works good
[19:44] <qwyeth> but it wouldn't hurt to look it up first
[19:44] <sebsebseb> colin__: buy something that is supported and you will be ok, can I use the bot yet hmm
[19:44] <sebsebseb> !hardware |  colin__
[19:44] <xrandr> !lag
[19:44] <dovik____> hey peeps
[19:45] <qwyeth> Heck, I've even plugged in WWAN cards and had them Just Work.  Not even Windows can do that.
[19:45] <trism> alazyworkaholic: you could also just try root=/dev/sda3 (again whatever the correct partition is)
[19:45] <colin__> Do you happen to know a usb adapter that would work with 9.10 or a website with the compatible hardware?
[19:45] <erUSUL> !hcl
[19:45] <zilla1> I want to copy my linux install, to another drive, as a backup. installed packages, files, the whole deal. can i just create an image of the partition (install is in a single partition) and copy it?
[19:45] <sebsebseb> colin__: also you can try the windows driver in Ndiswrapper or something
[19:45] <riverbird> my d-link gwl-650 just works
[19:45] <colin__> I tried.
[19:45]  * erUSUL where's the bot?
[19:45] <colin__> But It does not detect the hardware.
[19:46] <zilla1> colin__: yeah, try the windows ndiswrapper
[19:46] <deeperror> When clicking Applications menu there is nothing that pops up.  However, places and system are there and do have menu items.  Any clues how to restore the applications menu or rebuild it ?
[19:46] <trism> erUSUL: keeps getting disconnected with Excess Flood
[19:46] <zilla1> colin__: lspci doesn't list it?
[19:46] <sebsebseb> colin__: the bot was going to give links to thatk ind of info, but  it's not here at the moment,  when it is back though.  you can pm it with !hardware for supported hardware info,  and !wireless for the wireless link.  oh and someone can probably just provide those links actsualley
[19:46] <erUSUL> trism: k; thx
[19:46] <insm0d> how would I go about setting the hard drive detection order for the kernel?
[19:46] <Pici> We're looking into the bot issue.
[19:46] <colin__> !hardware
[19:47] <zilla1> huh?
[19:47] <colin__> Thanks to all of you for help.
[19:47] <xrandr> !ubottu
[19:47] <zilla1> !beetlejuice
[19:48] <nine_> I'm trying to get a for loop working. It's counting $i up 2,3,4,5 etc, every round. But I want it to count 0002,0003,0004,0005 etc. If you want to help me, the code is on http://paste.ubuntu.com/342937/
[19:48] <riverbird> bot is down
[19:48] <riverbird> colin__, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[19:48] <dneary> Hi all
[19:48] <isolat3dsh33p> ubottu is dead? D:
[19:48] <sebsebseb> riverbird: thanks :)
[19:48] <dneary> Long-time Ubuntu user, I've been upgrading rather than reinstalling for years
[19:48] <epaphus> Hello, what file in ubuntu can confirm to me if AES 128 or AES 256 bits was used to encrypt my filesystem? (done on karmic with the ubuntu alternate cd).
[19:48]  * xrandr mourns the loss of ubottu
[19:49] <dneary> Now I have some performance issues (among other things) and I'd like to selectively restore some of the distro defaults to see if that improves things
[19:49] <dneary> First thin I want to do is revert to the distro default panel set-up
[19:49] <alazyworkaholic> Ok, thanks, I also just found it now by mounting the filesystem from places. Showed up as /media/[UUID] I looked inside that I changed the linux /boot/vmlinz line to match the vmlinz file in Fedora's boot directory, & I think the last thing I need now is to know what to do about the initrd /boot/initrd.img... line. There's no initrd.img file in /boot for fedora.
[19:50] <sebsebseb> !ping
[19:50] <dneary> I've made very few changes to the panel, so I don't mind throwing the various launchers & panel applets away
[19:50] <zilla1> can i create an image of my boot partition while running? or will that lead to great badness?
[19:50] <alazyworkaholic> trice: sorry, forgot to add the nick. Ok, thanks, I also just found it now by mounting the filesystem from places. Showed up as /media/[UUID] I looked inside that I changed the linux /boot/vmlinz line to match the vmlinz file in Fedora's boot directory, & I think the last thing I need now is to know what to do about the initrd /boot/initrd.img... line. There's no initrd.img file in /boot for fedora.
[19:50] <Diverdude> How do i avoid that screenlets are hidden/removed when i press "click here to hide all windows and show the desktop"  down in left corner?
[19:50] <eddym> hey all  i downloaded a cbt how do i run it?
[19:50] <JBLoudG20|lap> I have a headless server, that has X support for legit applications. I had a user download opera, and is downloading files from megaupload and rapidshare. How can I prevent this from happening? I should add, I'm not the 'admin' we are all graduate students, but I am the one that will get blamed if things go wrong
[19:50] <sebsebseb> dneary: Ok what do you want to do?
[19:51] <dneary> sebsebseb, I would like to restore the distribution default theme & panel
[19:51] <sebsebseb> !panel |  dneary
[19:51] <trism> alazyworkaholic: surprised there isn't an initrd there...initrd strickly necessary, but the kernel modules required to access your hard drives usually need to be compiled into the kernel if you don't use an initrd...hmm
[19:51] <sebsebseb> !panels   dneary
[19:51] <trism> alazyworkaholic: isn't necessary I mean
[19:51] <sebsebseb> !panels |  dneary
[19:51] <epaphus> Hello, what file in ubuntu can confirm to me if AES 128 or AES 256 bits was used to encrypt my filesystem? (done on karmic with the ubuntu alternate cd).
[19:51] <guntbert> dneary: To reset the panel to defaults, type this in a !terminal: « gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel
[19:51] <cpare_> Linux server as a Wireless router - anyone familiar with this?
[19:52] <insm0d> The hard drive I have linux installed on is known as /dev/sdc to a running kernel.  How can I force the kernel to use it as /dev/sda
[19:52] <dneary> guntbert, Thanks
[19:52] <cpare_> I am done with the POS belkin router I have...
[19:52] <erUSUL> epaphus: fstab ?
[19:52] <dneary> Hmmm
[19:52] <dneary> That doesn't look quite right
[19:52] <Mithran> Anybody know how to get scsi drives mapped to /dev names if the module for the controller had to be loaded after boot?
[19:53] <EoL{s}> Hey all, I'm using eclipse. Whenever I try to make a new project, the dialogue is cut off at the bottom. Is there a way to fix this?
[19:53] <erUSUL> insm0d: do not think is possible. suffle the sata cables in the motherboard
[19:53] <epaphus> erUSUL, # /boot was on /dev/sda5 during installation
[19:53] <epaphus> UUID=32857571-7819-4649-92ce-fae36dc1946a /boot           ext2    defaults   thats all it says
[19:53] <eddym> hi guys how can i access a cbt in ubuntu
[19:53] <erUSUL> epaphus: then i dunno
[19:53] <epinky> cpare_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router
[19:53] <dneary> Ah
[19:53] <dneary> Better
[19:53] <dneary> It just took a few seconds
[19:53] <drcsoldan> hi all
[19:53] <zilla1> insm0d: umm.. wouldnt it be easier to just open the box and switch the ide cable
[19:54] <insm0d> erUSUL, my main hard drive is IDE, but uses an emulated SCSI interface.  I really don't want to have to recompile the kernel.
[19:54] <cpare_> epinky - thanks, I have made a number of routers in the past, the broadcast SSID part is the real piece that gets me concerned
[19:54] <xrandr> !ubottu
[19:54] <xrandr> !lag
[19:54] <cpare_> epinky - I will read through this and see if it offers any suggestions
[19:55] <noelito> Hi, I am sssooo new to this Ubuntu/IRC thing!
[19:55] <Besogon> Which of you did install apt-cacher? Is apache2.deb enough to run it? I have't connect to internet on that computer at all
[19:55] <erUSUL> !blacklist
[19:55] <drcsoldan> i accidentally removed an entry from the startup apps list, and now when i try to mount a windows drive, i get the error "authentication required". someone know which app is missing in the startup apps?
[19:55] <guntbert> xrandr: if ubottu isn't well, please don't tease her :)
[19:55] <drcsoldan> help! pls!
[19:56] <riverbird> noelito, !ask
[19:56] <alazyworkaholic> trism: maybe it only appears after 1st boot, like folders after adding a user?? There are these folders: efi, grub, lost+found ; & these files: config-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64, elf-memtest86+-4.00 initramfs-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64.img, memtest86+-4.00 System.map-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64, vmlinz-2.6.31.5-127.fc12.x86_64 ; So what should I do about the initrd line? Eliminate it?
[19:56] <insm0d> erUSUL, forgot about that.  That may work.  Off to figure out which module provides scsi emulation and disable it.  Thanks for the help
[19:56] <dneary> haven't looked at Hamster graphics since upgrade... look crappy. Wonder if I'm missing something
[19:56] <nine_> I'm trying to get a for loop working. It's counting $i up 2,3,4,5 etc, every round. But I want it to count 0002,0003,0004,0005 etc. If you want to help me, the code is on http://paste.ubuntu.com/342937/
[19:57] <trism> alazyworkaholic: you want initramfs I beleve
[19:57] <noelito> I am trying to use autofs to mount a win XP share in Ubuntu.
[19:57] <erUSUL> drcsoldan: gnome-keyring-daemon ?
[19:57] <guntbert> nine_: if its bash code you might better ask in #bash
[19:57] <EoL{s}> Hey all, I'm using eclipse. Whenever I try to make a new project, the dialogue is cut off at the bottom. Is there a way to fix this?
[19:57] <noelito> I followed a couple of forums info and I still can't connect
[19:57] <nine_> guntbert, ohh... Of course. Thnx!
[19:57] <cpare_> epinky - this seems to have what I am looking for with the essid stuff
[19:57] <Duskao> Hey guys. Quick question. I'm running 9.10. What are the keys to kill a process that is misbehaving? like ctrl + alt ???? But only the program I am using?
[19:57] <alazyworkaholic> trism: oh, so the initramfs...img file should take the place of the initrd...img file? Two names for basically the same thing?
[19:57] <cpare_> thanks!
[19:58] <erUSUL> insm0d: the scasi emulation is done by the driver itself. your chance is to make the pata driver load before the sata driver
[19:58] <epaphus> Guys anybody know??  what file in ubuntu can confirm to me if AES 128 or AES 256 bits was used to encrypt my filesystem? (done on karmic with the ubuntu alternate cd).
[19:58] <guntbert> nine_: have fun :)
[19:58] <trism> alazyworkaholic: yeah, initrd stands for initial ram disk
[19:58] <cpare_> epinky - Thanks1
[19:58] <epinky> cpare_: you're welcome :)
[19:58] <erUSUL> insm0d: in my case i would have to try to make pata_ali load before ahci
[19:58] <trism> alazyworkaholic: so, initramfs (initial ram file system) would make sense to me
[19:58] <Threetimes> Hi, will the KÖNIG CMP-USBVG5 usb 2.0 audio/video grabber work in ubuntu? I haven't bought it yet... http://blog.worldofkonig.com/audio-video/cmp-usbvg5/ It's not in the official HCL, but will it work?!
[19:58] <erUSUL> insm0d: but i do not know if that will work well to be honest
[19:58] <cpare_> epinky - now to run out a buy a wireless card and super big antenna
[19:58] <drcsoldan> erUSUL: how do i start it manually? gnome-keyring-daemon in the terminal?
[19:59] <erUSUL> drcsoldan: gnome-keyring-daemon &
[19:59] <drcsoldan> still getting the error
[19:59] <alazyworkaholic> trism: Ok, thanks a lot for the help. I'll go try it out.
[19:59] <erUSUL> Duskao: alt +f2 run xkill click on the app
[19:59] <trism> alazyworkaholic: good luck
[19:59] <Nachturnal> I have a triple-monitor setup with two video cards. When I use full-screen video (hulu.com flash-based video player, or a game), the maximized view appears on the left monitor, rather than the middle, which is designated as primary. Is there a known fix?
[19:59] <epinky> cpare_: omnidirectional rocks! well it depends on your needs
[19:59] <mr_engineer> does anybody know which is the best irc channel to ask xserver questions?
[20:00] <Duskao> erUSUL ok. I'll give that a try next time. Thanks.
[20:00] <epaphus> yes
[20:00] <dneary> That envelope in the notification area - is there a way to hide it, or get rid of it?
[20:00] <isolat3dsh33p> mr_engineer: #xorg
[20:00] <noelito> Is this the place to ask for help on my autofs setup?
[20:00] <cpare_> epinky - thanks for the suggestion - I need to do some reading, but anything is gonna be better than the POS I have now
[20:00] <dneary> I use neither Evo or Empathy, so it's mostly annoying
[20:00] <martinjh99> Does anyone know if Thunderbird3 is coming for Karmic?
[20:00] <mr_engineer> isolat3dsh33p, thanks
[20:00] <isolat3dsh33p> mr_engineer: np
[20:01] <erUSUL> noelito: why you need autofs for a ntfs parition ?
[20:01] <erUSUL> !latest | martinjh99
[20:01] <epinky> cpare_: good luck :)
[20:01] <ctmjr> dneary: right click it remove from panel
[20:01] <martinjh99> !backports
[20:01] <drcsoldan> the keyring-daemon is in the startup apps btw
[20:01] <al_> i thought the ubuntu CD let you boot into gnome? mine has taken me to the command line??
[20:01] <drcsoldan> so that souldnt be the problem
[20:01] <isolat3dsh33p> !emerald
[20:01] <erUSUL> drcsoldan: maybe seahorse then ?
[20:01] <noelito> Yes, I have XP Pro with NTFS in my network. I was trying to use SMBFS with autofs. Is this the best way to do this?
[20:02] <erUSUL> seahorse-agent
[20:02] <karki> hi
[20:02] <erUSUL> !samba | noelito
[20:02] <noelito> correct
[20:02] <al_> would there be a way to run a simple test of the sound card from the command line?
[20:03] <drcsoldan> that one isnt even installed
[20:04] <jmyers> Anyone able to recommend some alternatives to Wine?  I'm trying to run a training video program that uses Flash (ComptTIA A+ certification exam prep stuff), and it's not working under Wine.  It's possible that it has something to do with the AMD 64 architecture. :/
[20:04] <wvd> ReactOS?
[20:04] <wvd> Or is that something different.
[20:04] <guntbert> drcsoldan: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)
[20:04] <DopeGhoti> jmyers: KVM or virtualbox?
[20:05] <erUSUL> jmyers: there are comercial supported wine deribatives. cedega and crossover
[20:05] <janhaj> hello.. is here anybody, who have external usb tv tuner Gigabyte U8000 and Ubuntu 9.10?
[20:05] <erUSUL> jmyers: another option is to run winXP on Virtualbox
[20:05] <isolat3dsh33p> !virtualizers | jmyers
[20:06] <jmyers> ok, was just overwhelmed with information there. lol
[20:07] <kat666> witam
[20:07] <DopeGhoti> jmyers: welcome to #ubuntu ;)
[20:07] <noelito> Thanks ubottu!
[20:07] <jmyers> DopeGhoti: I'm not sure how to answer your question.  I'm not running a virtual box, but I don't know what KVM is.
[20:07] <k261> sera
[20:07] <guntbert> !it | k261
[20:07] <erUSUL> !kvm
[20:07] <jmyers> DopeGhoti: wouldn't have been so bad except I lagged and 3 pages of text flooded by
[20:07] <DopeGhoti> jmyers: KVM and Virtualbox are options for running an actual Windows installation on a virtial CP
[20:07] <DopeGhoti> jmyers: er, PC
[20:08] <al_> is there a way to get into the gui booting from the cd?
[20:08] <jmyers> DopeGhoti: ah, I have grub multibooting to WinXP, I just don't wanna load the garbage. :(
[20:08] <jmyers> DopeGhoti: actually, I take that back.  I wiped WinXP last night when I formatted the drive to ext3. :)
[20:08] <docmax> which player are you using when doubleclicking an MP3 file?
[20:09] <DopeGhoti> jmyers: Advantage of virtualization: not having to reboot the _real_ operating system :)
[20:09] <docmax> which player are you using when doubleclicking an MP3 file in ubuntu?
[20:09] <jmyers> DopeGhoti: Windows can suck a bag of .. well, I'll refrain from finishing that statement cuz there are kids here.
[20:09] <erUSUL> docmax: totem ?
[20:09] <jmyers> DopeGhoti: I had ubuntu in a virtual box on windows for the longest, I just decided to bite the bullet and learn the real OS anyways.  Sick of windows flakey unstable garbage anyway.
[20:09] <Xeli> Hello! I'm trying to cross compile dnsmasq, but i run into a header problem, dnsmasq has the type "HEADER" and my ubuntu install has it, but the target of my crosscompiler (android) doesn't could anyone point me to the header where this type should be defined? it's kinda hard to google..
[20:10] <DopeGhoti> jmyers: And thus, you were Enlightened ;)
[20:11] <julio> hi there, is it possible to have 2 keyboard layouts?
[20:11] <jmyers> DopeGhoti: problem is, I may have made the leap too soon.  Struggling to get all my hardware running just so-so.  Expecially on this AMD 64 architecture.  Seems like howto's and packages are doubly hard to find and install for this architecture. :(
[20:11] <julio> i'm on a laptop and would like to use it's own keyboard in latam and a usb one in english
[20:12] <jmyers> DopeGhoti: I've been trying to get my ATI Radeon HD 4850 to work right for 3 days. :/
[20:12] <zilla1> jmyers: try it on IA64
[20:12] <jmyers> zilla1: try what on IA64?
[20:12] <xine> how can i access ext 4 from win 7?
[20:12] <zilla1> jmyers: i mean, its even harder to get things working on itanium
[20:13] <jmyers> zilla1: OH, yeah.  No thanks.  Struggling plenty enough as it is.
[20:13] <drcsoldan> ok, mounting the windows drive works with sudo mount etc., but not with gnome. whats the problem? (error: "authentication is required")
[20:13] <DopeGhoti> jmyers: mm, ATI/AMD video card support has been somewhat lacking :/
[20:13] <jmyers> zilla1: got a $200 video card I can't use. :P
[20:13] <agntdrake> does anyone know how to make the various drives visible as /dev devices in the ubuntu installation environment?
[20:14] <insm0d> julio, It is possible to get different keyboard layouts running on different keyboards.  In the past it involved editing your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file but I think it's now done with HAL.  Try searching for 'keyboard layout hal'
[20:14] <jmyers> DopeGhoti: it's crazy.  When I run sh on the driver, and use the --buildandinstallpkg Ubuntu/karmic switch on it, it SORTA works.
[20:15] <julio> insm0d, ok i'll google it out
[20:15] <julio> thanks
[20:15] <jmyers> DopeGhoti: BUT, I gotta run it in the 2.6.31-14 grub option, and not the 2.6.31-16 option, and it accelleration is SOOOOO SLOW.  Windows chop and stuff when I try and move them.  The only advantage is I can set the resolution, and it doesn't run off the edges of my hdtv like it does with the standard video drivers
[20:15] <xpololz> Hi, i was working with some c source file and runned it in terminal on gedit, i made a loop that runned for ever and in attempt to stop the program from running i clicked ctrl+c, now i cant open the file in gedit. What to do? :s dont wanna rewrite all the code :(
[20:16] <blizzkid> Any idea on how to control the "num lock" led in karmic?
[20:16] <oCean_> agntdrake: what?
[20:16] <agntdrake> ocean_:  I just want to be able to access the /dev devices in a terminal
[20:17] <isolat3dsh33p> blizzkid: What's wrong with your led?
[20:17] <agntdrake> I think they're not mounted yet
[20:17] <oCean_> !mount | agntdrake
[20:17] <isolat3dsh33p> xpololz: When you clicked the file, does anything happen?
[20:17] <agntdrake> sorry, I shouldn't have said "mount"
[20:17] <agntdrake> I meant visible
[20:18] <agntdrake> I don't need to actually mount the devices
[20:18] <agntdrake> err partitions
[20:18] <blizzkid> isolat3dsh33p: nothing wrong, I want to test http://simo.h.mattila.googlepages.com/led-notification but don't find correct files in /proc/acpi
[20:18] <agntdrake> on the devices
[20:18] <Jamed> agntdrake: so the don't appear when you do "sudo fdisk -l"?
[20:18] <oCean_> agntdrake: to *access* the devices, you have to mount them. They are always visible when you do "ls /dev/sd*"
[20:18] <oCean_> agntdrake: a try "sudo fdisk -l"
[20:18] <insm0d> agntdrake, what do you need done?
[20:18] <xpololz> isolat3dsh33p: if i open it with gedit.. gedit has not been able to detect the character coding. Please check that you are not trying to open a binary file. Select a character coding from the menu and try again
[20:19] <agntdrake> nm.. I didn't realize that installer started up as the ubuntu user, and not root
[20:19] <oCean_> !afk | jmyersAway
[20:19] <agntdrake> so when I typed "fdisk -l" it didn't return anything.  "ntfsresize" would say "permission denied" which should have clued me in
[20:20] <isolat3dsh33p> xpololz: Are you sure that's the source file?
[20:20] <guntbert> agntdrake: you need sudo fdisk -l
[20:20] <xpololz> isolat3dsh33p: 100% sure
[20:20] <agntdrake> guntbert:  yes, I see that now
[20:20] <agntdrake> yay for not typing 'whoami'
[20:20] <riverbird> al_, what cd version do you have?
[20:20] <trijntje> Using Evolution with gmail: I didnt select 'leave messages on server', but I can still see all mesages in gmail.com. Did I do something wrong?
[20:20] <al_> why does my live cd take me to the command line??
[20:20] <guntbert> xpololz: type file <yoursourcefile>
[20:20] <al_> riverbird: umm, 9.04
[20:20] <al_> and tried Kubuntu too
[20:21] <DopeGhoti> al_: anything unusual in th elogs?
[20:21] <riverbird> i386.alt? or ..?
[20:21] <xpololz> guntbert: i get up following: ab.c: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.15, not stripped
[20:21] <michi__> hi
[20:21] <al_> DopeGhoti: whats the command to binrg tht up?
[20:22] <riverbird> al_, are you trying to do a new install with a live cd? or .. ??
[20:22] <mordof> got my guitar hooked up to my line in..  anyone able to help getting audacity (or the default sound recorder for that matter) to pick it up for recording?
[20:22] <mr_engineer> should i trust this (to install kernel 2.6.32-x) http://www.ramoonus.nl/2009/12/03/linux-kernel-2-6-32-installation-guide-for-ubuntu-linux/
[20:22] <guntbert> xpololz: that is defintely no source file - it an executable file
[20:22] <DopeGhoti> al_: ls /var/logs/  then less /var/log/$logfile
[20:22] <al_> DopeGhoti: all i want to do is test the sound output on this pc. can I do that from the command line of the live cd?
[20:22] <mordof> i can't seem to get any input at all
[20:22] <mr_engineer> I just dont want to get my graphics ***** up again
[20:22] <oCean_> trijntje: in settings @gmail, there's also an option like "leave copy in gmail's inbox"
[20:22] <insm0d> xpololz, you are trying to open up a program file.  It's binary format so you really can't look at it or edit it with a text editor.  You might be after a hex editor, but be careful what you do
[20:22] <michi__> im running the latest live dvd and miss grub. i only have grub-setup, grub-install and a bunch of others i have no clue about
[20:22] <xpololz> guntbert: yeah i could see that :S but how did it become an executable and how do i get it "back" ? :S
[20:22] <insm0d> al_
[20:22] <DopeGhoti> al_: hmm, you could try cat /path/to/some/mp3 > /dev/dsp
[20:23] <epinky> !grub2 | michi__
[20:23] <isolat3dsh33p> blizzkid: I have /proc/acpi :/
[20:23] <michi__> oh ffs
[20:23] <michi__> which is the latest version running grub1?
[20:23] <michi__> thanks for the info btw?
[20:23] <isolat3dsh33p> xpololz: Sorry, can't help you :(
[20:23] <SwedeMike> michi__: 9.04
[20:23] <xpololz> It was a source file not an executable, until i clicked ctrl+c in terminal while it was running. Now i cant open it because gedit think its an exe
[20:23] <trijntje> oCean_, thanks a lot, I didnt think to look there
[20:23] <michi__> SwedeMike, thanks a lot!
[20:24] <xpololz> thanks for trying anyways
[20:24] <guntbert> xpololz: I only can guess: maybe you had a type in you compile statement? and no way to get that back - but look for a backup file with ls -al in that directory
[20:24] <chiggavelli> does anybody can help me whit 9.10 i have  4GB of ram and just today i understood that box sees just 3Gb
[20:24] <blizzkid> isolat3dsh33p: I have it too, but not the files to control the led
[20:24] <insm0d> al_, maybe.  Try running sudo alsaconfig and try looking for alsaplayer or some sort of text mode multimedia player.  You might be able to send a file to the sound device but it sounds horrid
[20:24] <guntbert> *typo
[20:24] <oCean_> trijntje: on most popservers you will not have that option. Google went the extra stretch :)
[20:24] <al_> is there no wav or similar on live cd?
[20:24] <xpololz> guntbert: thanks, i will try that
[20:24] <isolat3dsh33p> blizzkid: You might had to create one :/
[20:24] <starcannon> What is the easiest way to create a new *default* fstab file? note, there is no backup of the original available.
[20:24] <guntbert> xpololz: Good luck :-)
[20:25] <trijntje> oCean_, I thought discarding messages after download was default on pop?
[20:25] <chiggavelli> anybody good whit enabling 4gb ram?
[20:25] <eternaljoy> is 9.10 the latest version?
[20:25] <mr_engineer> can somebody recommend me a way to install the linux kernel 2.6.32?
[20:25] <trijntje> eternaljoy, yes
[20:25] <oCean_> trijntje: indeed
[20:25] <badipod> eternaljoy: Yup
[20:25] <DopeGhoti> starcannon: pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l and I can try to write you an fstab
[20:25] <trijntje> chiggavelli, yes, try 64 bit
[20:25] <eternaljoy> ok thanks
[20:25] <isolat3dsh33p> blizzkid: It's just a maybe D:
[20:25] <DopeGhoti> starcannon: you'll need to know the mount points of your partitions though if yo uhave many
[20:26] <eternaljoy> is myth tv in the distros?
[20:26] <michi__> SwedeMike, ehrm, is 9.04 still available for download somewhere?
[20:26] <SwedeMike> michi__: yes.
[20:26] <starcannon> DopeGhoti I know the mount points, I don't have the fdisk -l output available at this moment though, but I have it memorized
[20:26] <epinky> starcannon: just boot LiveCD, and copy /etc/fstab.pre-uuid
[20:26] <trijntje> oCean_, as long as I can choose (and find the option) i'm happy ;)
[20:26] <starcannon> epinky ah really?
[20:26] <chiggavelli> trijntje, dont want to use not all software suport it
[20:27] <eternaljoy> !mythtv
[20:27] <starcannon> epinky that'll rebuild it?
[20:27] <chiggavelli> is there another trick to use 32 bit whit 4GB?
[20:27] <chiggavelli> trijntje,
[20:27] <michi__> SwedeMike: i can only find 8.04, a hint would save my day
[20:27] <xpololz> guntbert: Awesome man!! i got it :D
[20:27] <trijntje> chiggavelli, it is impossible to use 4 gb RAM without 64 bit i'm afraid ;)
[20:27] <insm0d> starcannon, Format is as follows: $DEVICE $MOUNT_POINT $FILE_SYSTEM $OPTIONS $DUMP $PASS
[20:27] <guntbert> xpololz: glad it worked :-)
[20:27] <epinky> starcannon: in my very personal case fstab.pre-uuid of LiveCD and fstab installed are the same :)
[20:27] <chiggavelli> To read more about PAE, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[20:27] <chiggavelli> does this one not helps?
[20:27] <al_> what about starting the windows gui from the command line?
[20:28] <michi__> nevermind, got it
[20:28] <Flannel> al_: Windows GUI?
[20:28] <DopeGhoti> al_: try /etc/init.d/gdm start
[20:28] <DopeGhoti> al_: failing that, startx
[20:28] <al_> well bugger me, this time it started the windows
[20:28] <eternaljoy> SwedeMike, hello
[20:28] <xpololz> guntbert: thanks :) Guess ill find another way to terminate a process when working like this
[20:28] <chiggavelli> trijntje,  so how to upgrade from 32 bit to 64bit whitout taking big effect for everything now installed?
[20:28] <al_> oddd
[20:28] <DopeGhoti> al_: (for the record, it's "the X server", not "the Windows GUI" ;)
[20:28] <starcannon> epinky: ah i see, I could just copy the contents of fstab.pre-uuid into fstab
[20:28] <al_> DopeGhoti: er, ta. i wasnt sure of the correct terminology :_)
[20:29] <insm0d> chiggavelli, you just need a PAE enabled kernel.  I know there is one in the repos.
[20:29] <trijntje> chiggavelli, I dont think thats possible, but ask the channel to be sure
[20:29] <studentz> Hi there I have problems with Xorg 2.6.31-16-generic X86 Karmic. I need some help
[20:29] <DopeGhoti> al_: no problem. :)
[20:29] <gogeta> well trll us your problems
[20:29] <guntbert> xpololz: no - have a look at the command line when invoking gedit - you will most likely get you source overwritten again oif you don't change that
[20:29] <chiggavelli> insm0d, can u give me a link
[20:29] <guntbert> *if
[20:29] <starcannon> insm0d nod, thanks, I'm hoping not to build one from scratch, I always have to mess around getting permissions right afterwards
[20:30] <gogeta> starcannon: you can use the mini iso to build your own ubuntu using apt
[20:30] <insm0d> http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-4gb-ram-limitation-solution/
[20:30] <xpololz> guntbert: Will do :)
[20:30] <studentz> After I login Xorg use 99% of CPU . I Had to log out and login back to use my laptop please help me
[20:31] <starcannon> gogeta I'm not really trying to build my own distro, just restore a hosed up fstab in the easiest manner possible
[20:31] <flavetius1> maooooooooooooooo
[20:31] <Flannel> insm0d: That page is out of date.  There is now a generic kernel with PAE
[20:31] <al_> well looks like sound on this pc is poked!
[20:31] <manish> i can't access my other drives from thunar file manager in xubuntu,as in, they are not present in the left window-pane...but if i open the file from a media player,they are.any solution?
[20:31] <starcannon> gogeta the computer is actually about 1700 miles away, and everything is being passed over the phone and through pastebin, the connection is terrible so remote desktop is not an option(tried already)
[20:32] <Flannel> chiggavelli: You can't upgrade to 64bit (it's a reinstall), but you can install a PAE kernel, linux-generic-pae
[20:32] <erUSUL> !info linux-generic-pae
[20:32] <JumboJellyfish> question: I just installed kubuntu (8.04) on a shuttle PC... I get to the log in screen, but when I enter my username/password and try to login, the monitor goes black (says no signal) and then returns to the login screen!
[20:32] <studentz> After I Log in Xorg use 99% of my CPU. I cannot do anything with my laptop
[20:32] <chiggavelli> sudo apt-get install linux-server linux-headers-server linux-restricted-modules-server
[20:33] <JumboJellyfish> question: I just installed kubuntu (8.04) on a shuttle PC... I get to the log in screen, but when I enter my username/password and try to login, the monitor goes black (says no signal) and then returns to the login screen!
[20:33] <mr_engineer> when is kernel 2.6.32 going to be used by default?
[20:33] <Flannel> chiggavelli: no, linux-generic-pae
[20:33] <gh0st> Hello everyone, i have a server install (9.10) running on one hard drive with 2 partitions, one for OS, the other for storage. i have SSH access, and was wondering what is the command to list all partitions so i can mount it. eventually, id like to add it to fstab so it auto-mounts. Sorry for the noob question, but i kind of need a little bit of hand-holding on this one.
[20:33] <erUSUL> JumboJellyfish: boot into recovery mode and use the fix Xserver option (or if you end up in a root console run 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg' )
[20:33] <guntbert> gh0st: sudo fdisk -l
[20:33] <erUSUL> gh0st: sudo fdisk -l
[20:33] <Flannel> mr_engineer: Lucid
[20:33] <JumboJellyfish> erUSUL, thanks i shall go try
[20:34] <mr_engineer> oh my..
[20:34] <manish> quick question-i can't access my other drives from thunar file manager in xubuntu,as in, they are not present in the left window-pane...but if i open the file from a media player,they are.any solution?
[20:34] <starcannon> insm0d if I end up rebuilding from scratch, I can use dev locations instead of uuid if I choose right? I know I can use blkid to find uuid but its a bit of a pain because I am having to explain a lot of this "what to do" over the phone
[20:34] <riverbird> mr_engineer, i think its already in 10.04
[20:34] <help_me_please> hi guys i need help my computer doesnt want to start ubuntu
[20:34] <erUSUL> !latest | mr_engineer
[20:34] <jmyers> !virtualize
[20:34] <Besogon> does ubuntu 10.04 use Gnome 3?
[20:34] <Flannel> Besogon: No, it won't.
[20:34] <erUSUL> !virtualizers > jmyers
[20:34] <jmyers> what was that ! command again for virtualization?
[20:35] <mr_engineer> Flannel, would you be so kind as to tell me if it is recommendable to install this kernel (because of the pulseaudio thing) and if there is a special guide i should follow?
[20:35] <gh0st> the proper mount syntax then would be (after mkdir)   sudo mount /dev/sda2 /media/mountpoint?
[20:35] <jmyers> erUSUL: thankya
[20:35] <erUSUL> np
[20:35] <riverbird> !virtualizers
[20:35] <mr_engineer> Flannel, what worries me is the nvidia drivers
[20:35] <oCean_> !fstab | gh0st follow the link
[20:35] <jmyers> mr_engineer: can't be any more of a PITA than ATI drivers on 64 bit.
[20:35] <UnC00l> I'm currently using xubuntu, installed it like 2 minutes ago? Running through Windows. I have used Ubuntu before, and I'm just wondering. Is it possible to use "Wine" in Xubuntu?
[20:36] <erUSUL> UnC00l: yes
[20:36] <UnC00l> Thank god! If thought my gaming days were over! :O
[20:36] <starcannon> arghh this isn't fixed yet?
[20:36] <oCean_> gh0st: the channel bot went AWOL, i meant this link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[20:36] <jmyers> Any of these virtualizers a little more noob friendly than others?  Wine isn't working for the app I'm trying to run.
[20:36] <help_me_please> computer is sayin "no init found. try passing init=bootarg
[20:36] <help_me_please> hi guys i need help my computer doesnt want to start ubuntu
[20:36] <help_me_please> hi guys i need help my computer doesnt want to start ubuntu
[20:36] <erUSUL> jmyers: virtualbox
[20:36] <isolat3dsh33p> nice :D
[20:36] <help_me_please> computer is sayin "no init found. try passing init=bootarg
[20:37] <philipp_> hi does anyone know this widget on the right side of this picture? can someone tell me where i can download this? http://i34.tinypic.com/2lwsorl.jpg
[20:37] <jmyers> erUSUL: thankya, I forgot that's the one I was using to run Ubuntu on Windows XP. lol
[20:37] <starcannon> jmyers I like virtual box a lot, I find it easy to use, well documented, and quite capable.
[20:37] <guntbert> help_me_please: don't repeat so often please
[20:37] <jmyers> Virtualbox it is!
[20:37] <erUSUL> philipp_: conky probably
[20:38] <mr_engineer> jmyers, lol what do you mean with pita?
[20:38] <Anonymous2> hi peoples
[20:38] <UnC00l> And one more thing. Since I'm running Xubuntu through Windows 7, I took like 30 gb from one of my harddrives. But now, in Xubuntu. Can I access the other drives in Windows? With like all my pictures, videos and such?
[20:38] <mr_engineer> jmyers, oh nvm
[20:38] <starcannon> jmyers I recommend getting the latest from their website
[20:38] <jmyers> mr_engineer: Pain in the Arse
[20:38] <trijntje> philipp_, conky, but youll have to find or recreate the config file
[20:38] <mr_engineer> thanks anyway
[20:38] <jmyers> starcannon: yeah, just checked synaptic, no luck.
[20:38] <guntbert> jmyers: please mind your language
[20:38] <starcannon> jmyers http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[20:38] <eternaljoy> i have a TV tuner stick, and software that lets me record TV shows into MPG format.. What can MythTV do for me?
[20:38] <erUSUL> !ntfs | UnC00l
[20:38] <philipp_> trijntje, thx ill search it
[20:39] <manish> hello ppl, is there any way to access the other drives in thuran file manager...they're not shown.
[20:39] <ScoobyDoo> I'm trying to install ubuntu via the disc on a old computer with windows 98 on it, Via the disc, But it just hangs and says "boot from ATAI cdrom:"
[20:39] <jmyers> starcannon: thanks link!
[20:39] <starcannon> jmyers they have .deb builds there for all the relevant releases of Ubuntu
[20:39] <oCean_> erUSUL: bot went AWOL
[20:39] <mr_engineer> i need somebody to guide me installing kernel 2.6.32 please (i have nvidia drivers)
[20:39] <UnC00l> Oh yeah, Just remembered... Sorry for bothering. Thanks anyway
[20:39] <erUSUL> oCean_: roger
[20:39] <gh0st> how can i determine the filesystem in the unmounted partition? (/dev/sda2) fdisk -l only indicates extended
[20:39] <BitEncrypt> where is the trash folder at in my home folder?
[20:39] <help_me_please> does anyone know what "target file system doesn't have /sbin/init" ?
[20:39] <Anonymous2> i must be lukcy, i got a nvidia gpu and all but graphics are perfect.
[20:39] <jmyers> guntbert: I WAS minding my language by using the alternative word for the A in the acronym. :P
[20:39] <starcannon> BitEncrypt, its a hidden file...
[20:39] <erUSUL> UnC00l: install ntfs-config the run it « gksudo ntfs-config »
[20:40] <Anonymous2> from what i heard nvidia
[20:40] <BitEncrypt> I know
[20:40] <Anonymous2> + ubuntu = yuck
[20:40] <oCean_> gh0st: nope, fdisk -l lists all partitions
[20:40] <guntbert> jmyers: both are not acceptable here
[20:40] <jmyers> and by the way, Google Chrome for Linux OWNS Firefox. :)
[20:40] <ScoobyDoo> clear
[20:40] <vs93taras> okay guys
[20:40] <starcannon> BitEncrypt, I'm looking through now brb
[20:40] <sshc> BitEncrypt: it used to be ~/.Trash, but I heard it might have been changed
[20:40] <ScoobyDoo> ops
[20:40] <erUSUL> gh0st: if you want to mount it use "-t auto"
[20:40] <jmyers> guntbert: well my apologies if I offended you.
[20:40] <epaphus> Hey guys, i just got 9.10 karmic.. but i did apt-get install thunderbird and it installed thunderbird 2.. how do I get 3?
[20:40] <ScoobyDoo> I'm trying to install ubuntu via the disc on a old computer with windows 98 on it, But it just hangs and says "boot from ATAI cdrom:"
[20:40] <erUSUL> sshc: BitEncrypt ~/.local/share/Trash/
[20:40] <vs93taras> has anyone had a problem with their mouse and keyboard freezing after a random amount of time?
[20:41] <sshc> BitEncrypt: the location of trash is actually specific to gnome
[20:41] <oCean_> gh0st: ah, now I see what you were asking :)
[20:41] <manish> hello ppl, is there any way to access the other drives in thuran file manager...they're not shown.
[20:41] <guntbert> BitEncrypt: The location of Trash has changed since 8.04, it is now located in ~/.local/share/Trash | Looking for the trash in previous versions: ~/.Trash
[20:41] <sshc> BitEncrypt: ~/.local/share/Trash/
[20:41] <erUSUL> ScoobyDoo: hardware specs ?
[20:41] <BitEncrypt> thx
[20:41] <Anonymous2> manish: not that i am aware of right not
[20:41] <Anonymous2> whats wrong with the standard places menu
[20:41] <gh0st> erUSUL: mount is still complaining that i need to specify the filesystem. using this syntax:      sudo mount -t auto /dev/sda2 /media/Storage
[20:41] <jmyersAway> suh WEET.  Virtualbox has a AMD 64 bit ready to go!  luvit already
[20:41] <Jamed> Anonymous2: i heard nvidia cards work well in ubuntu or linux in general. never had any problems also
[20:42] <sshc> BitEncrypt: /bin/rm (or rm from the terminal) removes permanently, and thus many people don't like to use it
[20:42] <manish> Anonymous2:can u tellme ANY way.....i'm a newbie :)
[20:42] <ScoobyDoo> erUSUL: New to cocking about with computer hardware, All I can remember is the RAM is 256MB
[20:42] <riverbird> ScoobyDoo, whats you ram?
[20:42] <vs93taras> does anyone know anything about the mouse and keyboard freezing up?
[20:42] <sshc> BitEncrypt: if you're using a terminal, you should always move (mv) things into whichever trash directory you have set up
[20:42] <Anonymous2> well you run ubuntu right manish
[20:42] <erUSUL> ScoobyDoo: i think that the livecd needs more ram than that. you maybe have to try with xubuntu via an alternatecd install
[20:42] <jmyersAway> vs93taras: this has little to do with linux, but do you have overheating issues in your case?  Flakey things like that can often mean overheating issues.
[20:43] <starcannon> BitEncrypt, /home/username/.local/share/Trash
[20:43] <guntbert> jmyers: its not so much my personal feelings as the policy of this channel: to keep it family friendly
[20:43] <oCean_> gh0st: are you sure there is a filesystem on /dev/sda2?
[20:43] <BitEncrypt> got it thx
[20:43] <usr13> vs93taras: Yes, and it's almost always been memory related.  The last was one were only the keyboard word freeze, and even though the memory tested ok, I replaced it, (and a weak cmos battery), and problem solved.
[20:43] <erUSUL> ScoobyDoo: alternate is a text mode intall (like the first half of WinXP install)
[20:43] <ScoobyDoo> erUSUL: Ah ok, Just just burn the xubuntu iso to a disc? nothing special?
[20:43] <help_me_please> does anyone know what "target file system doesn't have /sbin/init" ?
[20:43] <oCean_> gh0st: if it lists "Linux" it is probably ext3 of maybe even ext4
[20:43] <Anonymous2> jamed: yea, but yea in general they work just fine i mean it's all based on GRAM addressing but, some have had some issues but it's common for anything
[20:43] <erUSUL> ScoobyDoo: yes the alternate one
[20:43] <starcannon> guntbert, sorry just saw you answered already
[20:43] <riverbird> ScoobyDoo, ditto erUSUL , but i think the ubuntu alternate will work too
[20:43] <gh0st> let me triple-check
[20:43] <vs93taras> jmyersAway: that would explain the fan going crazy when it happens
[20:44] <oCean_> gh0st: if you want, you can pastebin the fdisk -l output
[20:44] <ScoobyDoo> erUSUL: alternate one?
[20:44] <guntbert> starcannon: np - better two than none :-)
[20:44] <manish> Anonymous2: if i have to access any file on the other drives, how do i do that?.....dolphin has that feature....but its pretty heavy,and i'm guessing thuran won't take kindly to that
[20:44] <usr13> help_me_please: Is this a trivia question?
[20:44] <gh0st> patebin'ing now
[20:44] <BitEncrypt> the icon says i have trash in folder. when i checked nothin there.
[20:44] <Anonymous2> manish: well running ubuntu right?
[20:44] <manish> Xubuntu
[20:44] <jmyersAway> vs93taras: usr13 also brings up an option.  Memory chips can sometimes flake out, or overheat and cause the problems too.  Do you have more than 1 memory chip installed?  Or did you change anything inside the case lately like upgrade a video card?
[20:44] <Anonymous2> ahh
[20:44] <erUSUL> ScoobyDoo: there are two types of CD's the desktop and the alternate
[20:44] <Jamed> Anonymous2: yeah, theres always some issues with some hardware, but my ati experience in linux was much worse than nvidia
[20:44] <Anonymous2> something i have to try
[20:45] <erUSUL> ScoobyDoo: for low memory systems use the alternate cd
[20:45] <jmyers> Anonymous2: um, don't get me started on trying to get my ATI 4850 going on Karmic AMD64. :P
[20:45] <vs93taras> jmyers: i've tried every combo of my 4 mem chips
[20:45] <gh0st> oCean_: here is the fdisk -l output http://paste.ubuntu.com/342977/
[20:46] <vs93taras> its probably overheating
[20:46] <epaphus> hey guys,how can i install java 6 in ubuntu 9?
[20:46] <robas> good day to all, what is the best partitioning for ubuntu? lets say I have 20 G disk
[20:46] <vs93taras> i'll see if the answer lies in the bios
[20:46] <erUSUL> !java | epaphus
[20:46] <manish> Anonymous2: Xubuntu 9.10....and right now, i'm accessing files through the media player
[20:46] <riverbird> ScoobyDoo, the alternate can install with less ram, though doesn't run 'live'
[20:46] <vs93taras> brb
[20:46] <erUSUL> epaphus: sudo aptitude install sun-java6-jre (or jdk)
[20:46] <oCean_> gh0st: /dev/sda2 says extended, that one you cannot mount. The sda5 and sda6 are within the extended partition
[20:46] <epaphus> thanks
[20:46] <wolf_> Люди кто здесь знает Руский
[20:46] <jmyers> vs93taras: take ALL out but 1, if it still does it, try a DIFFERENT single mem chip.  If it STILL does it, then put all your chips back in and install a case fan.  They are cheap (usually less than 10 bucks.  And if that doesn't work, I've been known to rig up an oscilating fan next to my left open case in the floor. ;)
[20:46] <Jamed> !ru | wolf_
[20:46] <robas> wolf Ja.. no
[20:47] <oCean_> gh0st: those you can mount. /dev/sda5 probably as ext3 and sda6 as swap
[20:47] <guntbert> wolf_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[20:47] <epaphus> hello what is the best way to install skype??
[20:47] <gh0st> oCean_: what partiton should i be aiming for then? it would be the Largest one, i have hundreds of gigs on it
[20:47] <Jamed> ubottu dead again?
[20:47] <riverbird> ScoobyDoo, i might start w. 8.04
[20:47] <wolfey> does this 'install to usb' gui erase usb disk? or just installs and leaves ntfs data?
[20:48] <jmyers> Jamed: he split off onto another portion of the network
[20:48] <jussio1> Jamed: shell be back soon
[20:48] <studentz> Neeeed help After I login my laptop it's almost freeze.  top shows Xorg uses 99% of my CPU
[20:48] <Jamed> jmyers: ah thanks for the indo
[20:48] <epaphus> !skype | epaphus
[20:48] <Jamed> *info
[20:48] <epaphus> :(
[20:48] <wolf_> чё здесь ниодного руского или украинского человека нет?
[20:48] <miha> does this 'install to usb' gui erase usb disk? or just installs and leaves ntfs data?
[20:48] <oCean_> gh0st: yep, that'll probably be /dev/sda5. try "sudo mount /dev/sda5 /mnt"
[20:48] <Anonymous4> dang connection dropped
[20:48] <robas> wolf shto slucylos?
[20:48] <erUSUL> miha: the former afaik
[20:48] <jmyers> epaphus: did you try skype.com and clicking on downloads to see if they have any linux download options?
[20:48] <miha> erUSUL:  ahh too bad
[20:49] <Anonymous4> anonymous 2 is now anonymous 4
[20:49] <usr13> jmyers: epaphus skype is in repos
[20:49] <manish> Is there any way to access the other drives in thuran file manager...they're not shown, and i can only see them thru open file option in the media players
[20:49] <ScoobyDoo> riverbird: Ah ok, Doesnt matter about the live thing, I want to install in to my drive anyway. I can find the normal Xubuntu but not the alt one
[20:49] <riverbird> miha, it will erase the usb, unless you partition it
[20:49] <wolf_> Люди а как зделать в 9 Убунте класные темы окон
[20:50] <gh0st> oCean_: wtf? its my normal OS partition xD, its now double mounted
[20:50] <guntbert> wolf_: english only please
[20:50] <echofish> I have an external ext4 hd. What should I write in fstab to get it rw for everyone?
[20:50] <gh0st> im like breaking my system :(
[20:50] <oCean_> gh0st: just "sudo umount /mnt"
[20:50] <Anonymous4> anyone here recommend a clustering app for my servers
[20:50] <bdfoster_iPhone> !russian | wolf_
[20:50] <Anonymous4> something to cluster with
[20:50] <erUSUL> !addinfs | echofish
[20:51] <bdfoster_iPhone> ubottu's down?
[20:51] <jmyers> usr13: it's not showing up in synaptic for me.  Just some skype tools and addons.
[20:51] <oCean_> gh0st: is your large partition on another disk?
[20:51] <erUSUL> echofish: set correct permissions for the folders inside the disk
[20:51] <Jamed> wolf_: please join #ubuntu-ru for russian support
[20:51] <jmyers> epaphus: when I go to skype.com and click the download link, it shows all kinds of options for lots of linux distros.
[20:52] <erUSUL> jmyers: medibuntu repositories has skype
[20:52] <gh0st> it wont let go of the partition now :( output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/342982/   and no, its all on one disk
[20:52] <echofish> erUSUL: I want everyone to create and modify everything on the disk
[20:52] <usr13> Anonymous4: http://freshmeat.net/articles/linux-clustering-software
[20:52] <Anonymous4> jamed: what other distro's you running
[20:52] <ScoobyDoo> erUSUL: riverbird: Getting it now, Thanks Alot :-) 50 minutes to wait for the download though :-(
[20:52] <Anonymous4> thanks usr13
[20:52] <erUSUL> echofish: then make all the root folders on the disk belong to a group all users belong or writtable by anyone
[20:52] <Jamed> Anonymous4: archlinux
[20:53] <jmyers> erUSUL: I've only been using linux seriously for a couple weeks now, I haven't gotten around to adding any repositories to my synaptic manager.  Terrified I'll break something before I know how to fix it in terminal. lol
[20:53] <Anonymous4> jamed: that it?
[20:53] <oCean_> gh0st: you are probably *on* the /mnt partion.
[20:53] <wolf_> People halp me russian
[20:53] <erUSUL> jmyers: got to www.medibuntu.org (you will need it to watch comercial DVD anyway)
[20:53] <usr13> jmyers: sudo apt-get install skype
[20:53] <echofish> erUSUL: isn't there a way to do it in fstab?
[20:53] <Pici> wolf_: /join #ubuntu-ru
[20:53] <oCean_> wolf_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke
[20:53] <erUSUL> wolf_: /j #ubuntu-ru
[20:53] <Jamed> Anonymous4: you mean is?
[20:53] <gh0st> you were right, it let go now
[20:53] <vs93taras> so what can I do to stop overheating?
[20:54] <epaphus> Is thunderbird3 called Shredder 3 now???
[20:54] <llua> cp -R "copy directories recursively" what do they mean by that?
[20:54] <jmyers> erUSUL: lol, I do need to set this box up to play DVD's.  I gotta sell my 360. :(
[20:54] <mr_engineer> can anybody help me install the new 2.6.32 kernel?
[20:54] <vs93taras> jmyers: if its overheating what can I do?
[20:54] <mr_engineer> i would really appreciate
[20:54] <ardchoille> llua: copy the directory and all directories inside it
[20:54] <erUSUL> echofish: no; ext4 is native linux. the only fs that accept mount time umasks and owner switchs are fs that do not have unix permission support. the kernel fakes them at mount point
[20:54] <Anonymous4> Wolf_: Они хотят, чтобы вы присоединились скандируют # Ubuntu-RU причинить вам говорить русский, и мы не понимаем
[20:54] <wolf_> Спасибо люди (-:
[20:55] <llua> ardchoille, ty
[20:55] <erUSUL> jmyers: :/
[20:55] <bastidrazor> llua: copy everything in that directory.. all sub directories everything.
[20:55] <oCean_> gh0st: what was your initial pastebin again? the fdisk output?
[20:55] <oCean_> gh0st: wait  -have it
[20:55] <gh0st> oCean_: if it is an NTFS partition (not sure if it is) since its a server install, so i need ntfs-utils?   re-pastebin'ing fdisk
[20:55] <robas> Anyone? 20Gb hard disk. What would be the best partition for it? and with what?  planning to have 10 for home.
[20:55] <oCean_> gh0st: your /dev/sda1 is pretty large partition.
[20:55] <jmyers> erUSUL: NICE, now I see why it's not in my synaptic manager too. :D
[20:55] <pc04> fuck
[20:55] <oCean_> gh0st: try "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt"
[20:56] <Anonymous4> wolf_: Я не говорю русский я использую Google Translate,
[20:56] <usr13> pc04: That's enough!
[20:56] <jmyers> pc04: oh my, you got a way about starting out in a room.
[20:56] <ardchoille> !ru | Anonymous4
[20:56] <robas> paulius lietuviu kalba?
[20:56] <Anonymous4> wolf_: Не за что
[20:57] <pc04> sorrry i not speak english
[20:57] <pc04> but
[20:57] <fogrider> I got an issue with ubuntu desktop 9.10    .... Activated nvidia driver for video card and was asked to rebooted. now all i get is a login in the shell. And it's flashing so i can't even login.
[20:57] <erUSUL> pc04: you can go to your country channel
[20:57] <pc04> fuck
[20:57] <Anonymous4> im just telling the man in his lanuage to go to #ubuntu-ru
[20:57] <gh0st> oCean_: EXCELLENT, that is the partition :) and to auto-mount that @ boot, i have to fstab?
[20:57] <usr13> pc04: The topic is ubuntu and the language (on this channel) is english.
[20:57] <riverbird> mr_engineer, you could try setting up lucid if you have some spare room ..
[20:57] <echofish> erUSUL: will the group "nogroup" work for this?
[20:58] <wolf_> Anonymous4 you cool man
[20:58] <Anonymous4> usr13: i was telling the man in russian to use the russian ubuntu support thats all
[20:58] <mr_engineer> riverbird, hm.. you mean making new partition for a clean install and all?
[20:58] <Anonymous4> wolf_: Не за что
[20:58] <oCean_> gh0st: yes. That is not all too hard. You could try yourself: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab
[20:58] <erUSUL> echofish: no users is best. then make sure all users are in it. or just make all folder read/writtable by anyone
[20:58] <fogrider> I got an issue with ubuntu desktop 9.10    .... Activated nvidia driver for video card and was asked to rebooted. now all i get is a login in the shell. And it's flashing so i can't even login.
[20:58] <Anonymous4> wolf_:Спасибо, пренебрежение последнее сообщение
[20:58] <oCean_> gh0st: since it's a linux filesystem, you have nothing to worry about the advanced options. This is just a straigtforward entry in /etc/fstab.
[20:59] <ctmjr> llua: in short it means repeat until it is done or in the cp command copy everything
[20:59] <echofish> erUSUL: how?
[20:59] <riverbird> mr_ yup.  ?? why not?  are you running 9.10 now?
[20:59] <gh0st> oCean_: thanks for the link and all the help, appreciate your patience, im going to go read that page, if i bump into problems, i'll come back on, but hopefully, i'll succeed first try. thanks again
[21:00] <wolf_> yes 9.10
[21:00] <oCean_> gh0st: that's the way :-) Glad to be of help
[21:00] <usr13> fogrider: Ctrl-Alt-F6 and fix xorg
[21:00] <tilen> i have some problem on ubuntu 9.10 they say me wired network you are now offline dont work tiwh dhclient whats wrong?
[21:00] <riverbird> mr_engineer,  yup.  ?? why not?  are you running 9.10 now?
[21:00] <mr_engineer> riverbird, yes
[21:00] <mr_engineer> but making a new partition would take hours here
[21:01] <erUSUL> echofish: permissions in unix/linux are rwx - rwx - rwx the last three letters are the permission for "anyone" (the first are for the owner the second for group)
[21:01] <ergenekon> s.a arkadaşlar
[21:01] <mr_engineer> i'm just willing to install a new kernel... please read this text and tell me if that means i will have NO nvidia graphic problems "The included kernel files have been compiled using the generic ubuntu configuration.
[21:01] <mr_engineer> Note: nVIDIA ForceWare drivers are automatically installed using DKMS (which is included in Ubuntu 8.10 and higher including 9.04 and 9.10)"
[21:01] <usr13> fogrider: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[21:01] <epaphus> Is thunderbird3 called Shredder 3 now???
[21:02] <usr13> fogrider: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:02] <ergenekon> xubuntu kullanıyorum ama efecktleri açamadım yardımcı olurmusunuz
[21:02] <usr13> fogrider: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[21:02] <BitEncrypt> my trash says there is something there, when i checked nothin there
[21:02] <fogrider> usr13: i can't enter any commands.... screen is flashing and it wouldn't let me enter anything
[21:02] <oCean_> !tr | ergenekon
[21:02] <usr13> fogrider: Ctrl-Alt-F6
[21:02] <oCean_> ergenekon: Turk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.
[21:02] <echofish> erUSUL: do I set this with chmod?
[21:02] <Anonymous4> BitEncrypter: it happens but goes away if not maybe you have a hidden file in there
[21:03] <riverbird> mr_engineer, cant really help you there. not much of a graphics user ..
[21:03] <Anonymous4> ctrl+h will show any hidden files or folders
[21:03] <usr13> fogrider: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=690760
[21:03] <fogrider> usr13: when do i etner that? and what will it do?
[21:03] <fogrider> usr13: thanks i'm goni to the link now
[21:03] <usr13> fogrider: now.  It will take you to console mode, (tty6)
[21:03] <erUSUL> echofish: yes you can use chmod o+rwx for folders o+rw for files
[21:04] <mr_engineer> riverbird, anyway, if this whole thing fails, how can i restore my system?
[21:04] <BitEncrypt> i checked the folder option
[21:04] <caja2_> Anyone knows about Serial Port emulation?
[21:04] <BitEncrypt> still nithing
[21:04] <usr13> caja2_: Ask your question.
[21:04] <BitEncrypt> ill restart brb
[21:05] <Anonymous4> bitencrypter: i have had this happen to but generally after you restart the computer it disappears
[21:05] <oCean_> mr_engineer: are you *sure* you need the 2.6.32?
[21:05] <Anonymous4> cool
[21:05] <mr_engineer> oCean_, i dont NEED it, but it could come in handy
[21:05] <mr_engineer> to use alsa instead of pulseaudio
[21:05] <riverbird> mr_engineer, i'm the wrong guy to ask that.  maybe you could run the lucid as a live cd to check?
[21:05] <celtic426> Hey guys, I need some help.  I reinstalled grub on my system after i installed Windows 7 (I have Ubuntu 9.10 installed too).  Grub has an entry for Windows but when I try it, it starts to boot but then windows says cannot find the boot device or something and asks to put in the windows repair cd.  but if I use the windows repair cd I will have to reinstall grub again.  Any ideas?
[21:05] <mr_engineer> which would solve general problems in my pc
[21:05] <mr_engineer> riverbird, ok dont worry then
[21:05] <mr_engineer> oCean_, could you help me with it?
[21:05] <usr13> !grub | celtic426
[21:06] <oCean_> mr_engineer: you're saying alsa does not work with current kernel?
[21:06] <celtic426> usr13 what does that mean?
[21:06] <usr13> celtic426: It means the bot is broke.
[21:06] <Anonymous4> celtic426: always install ubuntu after windows, i have seen it people install windows after and bam windows erases the MBR and puts on windows mbr
[21:07] <mr_engineer> oCean_, no, it does work, but i've heard it replaces pulseaudio in this kernel
[21:07] <echofish_> erUSUL: sudo chmod o+rwx /media/disk ?
[21:07] <caja2_> I want to emulate a USB printer I have to a Serial port, so I can use it with a Java application.
[21:07] <caja2_> Anyone?
[21:07] <BitEncrypt> im such a noob
[21:07] <Anonymous4> bitencrypt : it gone?
[21:07] <BitEncrypt> yep
[21:07] <Anonymous4> :)
[21:07] <celtic426> anonymous4 yeah i know but ive had ubuntu for a while and now i just wanted to try win7.  do u know any way i can fix it?
[21:07] <usr13> celtic426:  Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See
[21:07] <usr13>                https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos:
[21:07] <usr13>                https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[21:07] <erUSUL> echofish_: chmod o+rwx /media/disk/somefolder chmod o+rwx /media/disk/someotherfolder
[21:07] <oCean_> mr_engineer: sure alsa works with current kernel, a many, many previous versions
[21:07] <Anonymous4> celtic426: not really, i am a X- Windows user
[21:07] <celtic426> usr13, ive already done those steps and restored grub.  im able to use grub to get to ubuntu, windows does not work tho
[21:08] <mr_engineer> oCean_, it does work, but pulseaudio is used instead of it
[21:08] <epaphus> hey guys, i installed Shredder 3 by error.. how can I get it to be removed?
[21:08] <celtic426> anonymous aren't we all
[21:08] <echofish_> erUSUL: doesn't it work to set it on the root folder of the disk?
[21:08] <oCean_> mr_engineer: no one here recommends building your own kernel, but if you exist, see guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[21:08] <mr_engineer> oCean_, my whole goal here is this: 1. install new kernel 2. keep graphics drivers working
[21:08] <mr_engineer> oCean_, i have downloaded 3 deb files that have the kernel compiled
[21:08] <erUSUL> echofish_: could work. it is just somewhat ugly for an oldtimer like me
[21:08] <Anonymous4> bitencrypt: yea first time i used ubuntu i had same question but i thought hey let me just restart see what happens (curiosity) :)
[21:09] <mr_engineer> oCean_, and it says that dkms takes care of nvidia forceware drivers, but i dont know exactly what that means
[21:09] <echofish_> erUSUL: okey, thanks
[21:09] <Anonymous4> celtic426: possibly
[21:09] <usr13> celtic426: pastebinit fdisk -l ; pastebinit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[21:09] <oCean_> mr_engineer: beware: if you build your own kernel, and things don't work anymore, support might be hard to come by
[21:09] <mr_engineer> i don't want to be botting up with a console asking me for options to compile drivers
[21:09] <gh0st> oCean_: Just wanted to pop-back in for a sec and say thanks, it all went over great, thanks again!
[21:10] <studentz> Helpppp After I login my laptop freezes
[21:10] <oCean_> gh0st: nice to hear. That's what we're here for :)
[21:10] <BitEncrypt> Anonymous: yea...should of went with my gut
[21:11] <Anonymous4> bitencrypt: well in sense we are all noob (if you were to compare to linus, oh yea were door knobs)
[21:11] <ganymede> i nearly filled a certain XFS volume to full capacity by moving in a bunch of small files but then when i checked df -h, i saw that it had 40 MB left so i quickly hit ctrl+c on the mv process. however, after i cancelled the mv process, the disk continued processing a lot (i could hear it) and the free space slowly increased to 52 MB. what could that be? i didn't lose any data, did i? if the disk filled completely, it wouldn't delete random file
[21:11] <ganymede> s to make room, right?
[21:11] <Anonymous4> well time to startup my packet sniffer
[21:12] <celtic426> anonymous4, heres the pastebin for fdsisk: http://pastebin.com/m109c5221  .  however, when i did /boot/grub/menu.lst  it opened a blank file.  is that because i have grub2?
[21:12] <usr13> celtic426: Sorry I told you wrong, first do:
[21:12] <bgjsl> Hi guys again
[21:12] <usr13> sudo fdisk -l > hd-info.txt | pastebinit hd-info.txt
[21:12] <bgjsl> do not use ubuntu 9.10
[21:12] <caja2_> no one?
[21:13] <tsimpson> usr13: that's also wrong
[21:13] <bgjsl> it has severel issues
[21:13] <celtic426> usr13, im installing pastebinit now
[21:13] <usr13> bgjsl: Sure, no problem?
[21:13] <BitEncrypt> i like 9.10
[21:13] <Anonymous4> celtic426: you got alot of disks
[21:13] <Subby> Hi, I accidently klicked on my desktop using xkill, can I get my symbols back without logout&in again?
[21:13] <celtic426> anonymous4, one disk, lots of patitions.  ya i gotta sort that out.  http://pastebin.com/f5a2bf1f7    wow thats a handy program
[21:14] <SydneyElise> how do i send private message?
[21:14] <fogrider> i activated a nvidia  video driver and was asked to reboot. when it comes up i am at ttl1 and it is flashing and doesn't barely picks up my keyboard when i try and login. how can i recover my gui after this?
[21:14] <Threetimes> !4gb
[21:14] <Threetimes> !4g
[21:14] <usr13> sudo fdisk -l > hd-info.txt ; pastebinit hd-info.txt
[21:14] <Hiall> http://paste2.org/p/564698 get that when trying to update ntp.. on hardy any ideas? :|
[21:15] <usr13> celtic426: ^^^
[21:15] <celtic426> anonymous4, sda1 is WinXP, sda3 is Win7, sda5 is storage, sda8 is Ubuntu9.10
[21:15] <usr13> sorry
[21:15] <Anonymous4> celtic426: let me get you a small clip of the menu.lst file.
[21:15] <Anonymous4> this ways i can show you what you want to do
[21:15] <bastidrazor> celtic426: grub2 does not use a menu.lst
[21:16] <celtic426> bastidrazor yeah i know
[21:16] <celtic426> anonymous4, that pastebin u sent me, am i supposed to do anything with it?
[21:16] <Anonymous4> cletic426: i didn't send you anything
[21:17] <Anonymous4> celtic426: ### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
[21:17] <Anonymous4> menuentry "Ubuntu, Linux 2.6.31-16-generic" {
[21:17] <Anonymous4>         recordfail=1
[21:17] <Anonymous4>         if [ -n ${have_grubenv} ]; then save_env recordfail; fi
[21:17] <Anonymous4> 	set quiet=1
[21:17] <FloodBot4> Anonymous4: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:17] <celtic426> anonymous4, my bad, here: http://pastebin.com/f44f84a5b
[21:17] <woodyjlw> I have some questions about gps navigation with linux.... I have been using roadnav with pretty good successes but it seems like roadnav may have been abandoned or maybe the new vresion is under different name and website but I would like to know if anyone else is using GPS navigation with ubuntu with something other than roadnav. I want to stick with linux native software
[21:17] <celtic426> anonymous2 here http://pastebin.com/f44f84a5b
[21:17] <tarelerulz> anyone using the new hand brake ?  I ripped a movies an totem is the only thing it plays normal on .  Any reason that could be .  banshee which use gstream too
[21:18] <Anonymous2> couldn't find menu.lst in my grub folder but i guess they don't use menu.lst that or im just blind
[21:18] <celtic426> yeah they dont anonymous2
[21:18] <celtic426> grub2 is different, u update grub by just typing grub-update or something in the terminal
[21:18] <Anonymous2> i miss the old menu.lst
[21:18] <ardchoille> !grub2 | Anonymous2
[21:18] <Jamed> Anonymous2: they use grub.cfg now
[21:19] <Anonymous2> Jamed: yea i found that out when i open grub.cfg
[21:19] <Anonymous2> anrdchoille: thanks
[21:19] <fogrider> i activated a nvidia  video driver and was asked to reboot. when it comes up i am at ttl1 and it is flashing and doesn't barely picks up my keyboard when i try and login. how can i recover my gui after this?
[21:19] <Anonymous2> ubottu: thanks also
[21:19] <usr13> celtic426: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2
[21:20] <celtic426> usr13, im familiar with that...im facing a problem that is not listed there now
[21:20] <Anonymous2> I have been using my server which runs 8.04  so im just so use to grub with menu.lst that and i use ubuntu sure as my native os but i don't do to much with the root files anymore
[21:21] <MaSSaSLaYeR> ubuntu doesn't want to log me in. but in terminal i can log in
[21:21] <usr13> celtic426: pastebinit /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[21:21] <celtic426> usr13, http://pastebin.com/f78518a6
[21:21] <Anonymous2> device.map
[21:22] <Guest007> Hello, I wonder if anybody could help me please?
[21:22] <Anonymous2> how many people use Linux as there native OS?
[21:22] <nmvictor> any nofy know of a one line command that would generate javadocs from *.java files in a directory ~/Desktop/estudent  and compress the files and dir generated to a zip file?
[21:23] <fogrider> i activated a nvidia  video driver and was asked to reboot. when it comes up i am at ttl1 and it is flashing and doesn't barely picks up my keyboard when i try and login. how can i get to a ttl that i can log into or recover my gui?
[21:23] <nmvictor> anybody know of a one line command that would generate javadocs from *.java files in a directory ~/Desktop/estudent  and compress the files and dir generated to a zip file?
[21:23] <bastidrazor> Anonymous2: feel free to poll in #ubuntu-offtopic. Not here, Please.
[21:23] <topi> ola
[21:23] <woodyjlw> I do........hate MS!
[21:23] <topi> !list
[21:23] <CrazyJohn> afternoon all, I would like to open a odt file, how can I do it?
[21:23] <Anonymous2> bastidrazor: i was just asking for reasons of my own
[21:23] <nmvictor> woodyjlw: i share that with you
[21:24] <marcor1820> question: i just installed kubuntu 8.04, and when i try to log in the monitor blanks and turns on again at which point i am back at the log in screen. i have already tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" to no avail
[21:24] <Lunar_Lamp> How do I find out when THunderbird3 will make it into the repos?
[21:24] <isolat3dsh33p> woodyjlw: why would you hate MS?
[21:24] <bastidrazor> Anonymous2: it is offtopic for this channel.
[21:24] <bgjsl> guys if someone tell me how to upgrade wmp9 to wmp10 running wine in ubuntu 9.04 !!
[21:24] <FloodBot4> !netsplit
[21:24] <Anonymous2> bastidrazor: linux offtopic yea right
[21:24] <ryufan> does anybody know how to use a laptop with ics as a modem to my router?
[21:24] <bgjsl> guys if someone tell me how to upgrade wmp9 to wmp10 running wine in ubuntu 9.04 !!
[21:25] <woodyjlw> yea . if I have any MS software I used I try to find a linux version. to keep MS software off my linux aswell
[21:25] <Guest007> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a ide drive however once installed the installation checks itself but comes up with the message "no root file system is defined, please change this at the partioning menu" however this won't allow me to go back? Any ideas?
[21:25] <marcor1820> question: i just installed kubuntu 8.04, and when i try to log in the monitor blanks and turns on again at which point i am back at the log in screen. i have already tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" to no avail
[21:25] <usr13> celtic426:  Line 124  set root=(hd0,1)  #try hd0,0
[21:25] <woodyjlw> too many bug and viruses
[21:25] <DarsVaeda> hi can i get a list of updates by day i have installed?
[21:25] <CrazyJohn> afternoon all, I would like to open a odt file from the command line how can I go about this?
[21:25] <bgjsl> guest007 hi do not fly high
[21:26] <usr13> ryufan: use ipmasquerade
[21:26] <Guest007> ?
[21:26] <bgjsl> just follow instructions or guidelines
[21:26] <fogrider> i activated a nvidia  video driver and was asked to reboot. when it comes up i am at ttl1 and it is flashing and doesn't barely picks up my keyboard when i try and login so its impossible to enter my password. how can i recover my gui after this?
[21:26] <Guest007> bgjsl: I'm sorry I don't follow
[21:27] <dimitar> hi
[21:27] <bgjsl> that ans is normal when installing that system under that condition...
[21:27] <dimitar> is there any way to put transparent background on all windows in ubuntu 9.10?
[21:27] <DarsVaeda> its cause one of todays update killed the indicator-applet or whatever that is named where you can log off with, and now i can't logoff...at least with my mouse :P
[21:27] <marcor1820> question: i just installed kubuntu 8.04, and when i try to log in the monitor blanks and turns on again at which point i am back at the log in screen. i have already tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" to no avail
[21:27] <woodyjlw> I have another pc with windows 7 that is for gaming only. if I could get all my games to work under linux I would switch it to ubuntu to
[21:28] <TcP> k im having trouble with ubuntu and my router which was configured on a windows box. the problem is that i want to log into ssh hosted on my ubuntu box but the router has ports open allready and runs like its on server with its own ports open...so when i type in the  global ip address it takes me straight to the router. here a somewhat what the setup looks like host1.----->80,router,23,8080.<------host2ubuntu ssh22
[21:28] <celtic426> usr13, that sounds like a good idea but i cant save the file, it says you are trying to save the file on a read only disk, how do i fix this
[21:28] <dimitar> is there any way to put transparent background on all windows in ubuntu 9.10?
[21:28] <usr13> celtic426: sudo
[21:28] <celtic426> usr13 ya i did that
[21:29] <bastidrazor> TcP: you'll need to port forward 22 to the internal ip of the ubuntu box.
[21:29] <celtic426> i tried sudo gedit...  , and gksudo nautilus
[21:29] <celtic426> usr13 $$
[21:29] <Anonymous2> dimitar: theres some themes for ubuntu like it
[21:29] <MaSSaSLaYeR> warning: unable to find users: no seat-id found
[21:29] <dimitar> where i can get them?
[21:29] <nmvictor> which is most prefered if i wanted to compres files to a zip file, zip or gzip?
[21:29] <Anonymous2> let me think of some
[21:29] <bastidrazor> TcP: also your ISP may possibly block ports, I know mine does, if so youcan tell ssh to listen on a different port and forward that port to the internal ip of the ubuntu box
[21:30] <Anonymous2> darkroom isn't transparent but some parts show up transparent well translucent
[21:30] <fogrider> usr13: can you help me out? is there a safe mode or something i can get to a ttl that will not be flashing and going crazy?
[21:30] <TcP> bastidrazor how do i go about the port forwarding. cause the router has portforwarding but not for the ssh port
[21:30] <usr13> celtic426: sudo vim /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[21:30] <CrazyJohn> fogrider, are you configuring your card?
[21:30] <usr13> fogrider: Ctrl-Alt-F1
[21:30] <rustyshackleford> nmvictor: I believe it depends on the file. I believe p7zip has a way to test and see which is going to be better
[21:30] <dremits> hi does anyone know why i'm getting command not found when running a .bin file
[21:30] <dremits> ?
[21:30] <fogrider> crazyjohn: what card? I activated a nvidia driver and now i can't bootup.
[21:31] <bastidrazor> TcP: you'll need to look that up in your router documentation. it should be the same as any other port being forwarded. you should be able to choose which port you wish to forward.
[21:31] <fogrider> usr13: i get the same thing.... a ttl that is flashing and going crazy.
[21:31] <rustyshackleford> dremits: file extensions shouldn't matter in linux. what is the file supposed to do?
[21:31] <CrazyJohn> fogrider, nvidia card boot into level 3 then log in as root then nvidia-setting
[21:31] <dimitar> where i can get transparent themes for ubuntu 9.10?
[21:31] <mrnicelupe> fogrider, is it colourful lines and random patterns, as if it were a heat problem?
[21:31] <usr13> fogrider: ssh from another PC
[21:31] <dremits> it's an installer
[21:31] <rcscomp1> I am creating a LVM logical volume for virtual machine files (I.e. 250 GB files).  I am going to format ext4, what other formatting options should I use for a file system with large files?
[21:32] <VirusTB> question.... If someone send me an email (with  PDF attached) can i view the PDF on my iPhone??
[21:32] <VirusTB> sorry wrong room
[21:32] <bastidrazor> http://portforward.com/  TcP
[21:32] <marcor1820> question: i just installed kubuntu 8.04, and when i try to log in the monitor blanks and turns on again at which point i am back at the log in screen. i have already tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" to no avail
[21:32] <dimitar> where i can get transparent themes for ubuntu 9.10?
[21:32] <dremits> rustyshackleford: it's an installer
[21:32] <usr13> fogrider: ssh user@192.168.X.X
[21:32] <bastidrazor> !theme | dimitar
[21:32] <fogrider> usr13 i don't have it installed yet.
[21:32] <Retro198909> I have a hardrive question?
[21:32] <rustyshackleford> fogrider: are you sure the card is good? I've had that kind of fragmenting on a bad graphics card before
[21:32] <TcP> bastidrazor is 37337 thanks dude
[21:32] <rustyshackleford> Retro198909: !ask
[21:32] <Snoothy> When my ubuntu 9.10 does a soft lockup, how do I recover from and where do I find appropiate logs to identify the bug?
[21:32] <fogrider> ruckyshackleford; yes it was working before the activating the new driver from nvidia
[21:33] <mrqismrx> I'm having problem with watching videos, I get horizontel lines screwing up my picture, like this http://www.imagesforme.com/show.php/20672_03.png.html . I have tride to do a little bit of research and it seems there is ATI to blame? I use the fglrx driver now, should I change? I have turned of compiz (with fusion-icon but not so much of a result) I tried to set deinterlaced in gnome-mplayer and it somewhat helped but
[21:33] <mrqismrx>  not fully. Any ideas please these is really annoying!
[21:33] <nmvictor> rustyshackleford: just got from man zip that zip would compress 1/more zip archives to another archive.I have html files generated by javadoc, could you be having an idea what i would do to compress them to a .zip file?
[21:33] <celtic426> usr13, that worked, it saved.  now ill test it out but it sounds like it should work.  thanks for your help
[21:33] <DarsVaeda> @snoothy /var/log
[21:33] <dimitar> thanks
[21:33] <usr13> fogrider: Check to see the display adapter is good and is seated fully into socket.
[21:33] <usr13> celtic426: NP
[21:33] <Retro198909> I have a computer that is about 3 or 4 years old with sata ports and was wondering if I could use a 1TB hardrive
[21:33] <rustyshackleford> nmvictor: tar the directory into an archive, then zip it up  -- see man tar, man zip
[21:34] <bgjsl> that ans is normal when installing that system under that condition...
[21:34] <bgjsl> guys if someone tell me how to upgrade wmp9 to wmp10 running wine in ubuntu 9.04 !!
[21:34] <dremits> rustyshackleford: it's an installer
[21:34] <fogrider> usr13: I did that. plus it didn't move. it was working for a while.  then i activated the driver for nvidia and rebooted. never moved computer
[21:34] <nmvictor> rustyshackleford: thanks, letme check that out
[21:34] <marcor1820> question: i just installed kubuntu 8.04, and when i try to log in the monitor blanks and turns on again at which point i am back at the log in screen. i have already tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" to no avail
[21:34] <rustyshackleford> Retro198909: shouldn't matter if the drive is compatible, linux file systems will handle it. don't go try installing win 3.1 on it or something and it should work
[21:34] <alazyworkaholicc> I just installed a secondary linux os to experiment with. os-prober didn't detect it so I put this http://pastebin.com/f65441e58 in /etc/grub.d/40_custom  & ran update-grub2. When I chose the OS at the grub menu I get a bunch of errors & I'm pretty sure they have to do with my 40_custom config rather than any problem with the OS itself. Would someone please take a look at the pastebin link & tell me if I got something
[21:34] <fogrider> usr13: seriously there is no safe mode or soemthing i can revert to? this is crazy
[21:34] <Retro198909> will xp work also
[21:34] <Snoothy> When I transfer files of 1+ gigs from windows to my /md0 drive on ubuntu using samba shares, the server locks up. But it only happens when i transfer with more than 40 mb/s ?
[21:35] <rustyshackleford> dremits: can't say without knowing what its supposed to do. best bet go to the forums for that particular program. make sure you're running it as a superuser (sudo ./myfile.bin)
[21:35] <usr13> fogrider: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change:  Driver "nvidia"  to Driver "nv"
[21:35] <quizme> how do you add a program to start-up upon login/reboot?
[21:35] <fogrider> usr13: seriously dude... how am i suppose to edit that if i can't log in?
[21:35] <bgjsl> dimitar dont use 9.10
[21:36] <usr13> fogrider: you can't.
[21:36] <Retro198909> will my bios stop me if I use a 1 tb hardrive
[21:36] <kaddi>  I need a tool that will allow me to edit a windows registry from unix.. if possible command line
[21:36] <rustyshackleford> Retro198909: it'll work with XP, but you'll have to dual boot. - google dual booting to test it
[21:36] <dimitar> bgjsl why?
[21:36] <usr13> fogrider: ssh user@192.168.X.X
[21:36] <fogrider> usr13: wow. your helpful.   already told you i don't have that working yet. ssh is not an option yet
[21:36] <rustyshackleford> Retro198909: I don't imagine it would, but i'd check with the manufacturer of your motherboard and bios, if you think that's a concern
[21:36] <marcor1820> question: i just installed kubuntu 8.04, and when i try to log in the monitor blanks and turns on again at which point i am back at the log in screen. i have already tried "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg" to no avail
[21:37] <dremits> rustyshackleford: thanks. i've got it to work: needed to chmod
[21:37] <usr13> fogrider: Use rescue mode (install CD)
[21:37] <Retro198909> could you help me if I give you my model number
[21:37] <bgjsl> my friend the point is that version needs some improvement
[21:37] <kaddi> marcor1820: go to a ttyl and type startx into it, see if you get xserver started
[21:37] <mrqismrx> what is the best drivers for ATI cards (laptop) fglrx seems to scew up my video with horizontel lines.
[21:37] <usr13> usr13: Or any linux boot disk.
[21:37] <usr13> fogrider: Or any linux boot disk.
[21:37] <bgjsl> ubuntu 9.04 is more stable
[21:37] <fogrider> usr13: do a complete reinstall? really?
[21:37] <marcor1820> "server is already active for display 0"
[21:37] <rustyshackleford> Retro198909: I could, but you and google would be easier (for me)
[21:37] <usr13> fogrider: No.
[21:38] <kasansweat> bash scripting question: I've got an  "exit" condition inside a nested loop (its an if-then loop inside a while-do loop) -- and even though the loop stops, the script keeps going. Why?
[21:38] <usr13> fogrider: Boot to Ubuntu Install CD
[21:38] <marcor1820> kaddi: "server is already active for display 0"
[21:38] <Retro198909> I have a Compaq Presario SR1903WM
[21:39] <kaddi> marcor1820: then try /etc/init.d/kdm restart
[21:39] <fogrider> usr13: and it wants to reinstall
[21:39] <ryufan> did anybody respond to my question re is it possible to use my laptop's ics as the WAN for my router?
[21:39] <RichardWolfVI> Greetings, I have a PC with both an integrated speaker and external 2.1 speakers, How do I mute the integrated speaker while being able to use the external ones?
[21:39] <RichardWolfVI> I'm on Ubuntu Karmic.
[21:40] <usr13> fogrider: Use the Ubuntu Install CD to boot the computer, and cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /mnt/hdaX/etc/X11/xorg.conf  #Where /mnt/hdaX is the actual mount point for your installed Ubuntu system.
[21:40] <SireOrion> hello can someone help me to make a netinstall floppy?
[21:40] <zenlunatic> why
[21:40] <Snoothy> Is it possible to mount /md0 on /home and /media?
[21:41] <zenlunatic> depends
[21:41] <usr13> fogrider:  Bring up a terminal and type:  "mount" (without quotes) # To see what is mounted / where.
[21:41] <marcor1820> kaddi, will not restart, not default dm
[21:41] <jmyers> I think that EVERYTHING has to be difficult with this machine.  I installed Virtual Box.  It's giving me garbage when I try and REGISTER!  I went to sun.com and logged in, but when I try and put the email/pass in the box for virtual box, it says invalid username/password.
[21:41] <fogrider> usr13: ok... so once i'm editing the file. what do i do?
[21:41] <Retro198909> rustyshackleford: I have a compaq persario SR1903WM
[21:41] <dooglus> how do I enable circular scrolling in karmic?
[21:41] <usr13> fogrider:  Bring up a terminal and type:  "mount" (without quotes) # To see what is mounted / where.
[21:42] <bgjsl> sireorion do not use more floppy
[21:42] <dooglus> !circular
[21:42] <bgjsl> that is old tech
[21:42] <jmyers> rustyshackleford: same guy from wigornot?
[21:42] <bruenig> dooglus: what is circular scrolling?
[21:42] <dooglus> bruenig: it's a synaptics touchpad mode
[21:42] <bruenig> !synaptics
[21:42] <rustyshackleford> Retro198909:  oh, in that case, i'm reasonably sure it'll work. i'm not worried
[21:43] <dooglus> where you can scroll by moving your finger in circles, kinda like the ipod scrollwheel thing
[21:43] <MASARUwota> jmyers:and why did you even bother registering? it doesnt make your vbox better
[21:43] <jmyers> MASARUwota: because I can't get any farther in the process of opening it up without doing so.
[21:43] <jmyers> MASARUwota: OR, I can hit cancel and carry on. :/
[21:44] <MASARUwota> jmyers: hit cancel and carry on. seriously. why would you want to give your adress to a corporation like SUN without getting anything for it? i dont see a valid reason.
[21:44] <darkscrypt_> when i first run an apt-get install postfix, it gives me a config dialogue
[21:44] <darkscrypt_> how do i get that dialogue to come back up?
[21:45] <jmyers> MASARUwota: because I thought it was a required part of the installation package.
[21:45] <marcor1820> ehh, back to windows
[21:45] <dooglus> bruenig: thanks.  I think I tried that before, but I'll try again
[21:45] <marcor1820> xit
[21:45] <BalSak> hi guys. just getting into serial interface admin; installed minicom & GtkTerm, but all I'm getting is garbage from the ALIX board
[21:46] <bruenig> dooglus: have you used this feature before or are you just curious. Because to me it seems like a real hassle. Just saying
[21:46] <dooglus> bruenig: I used to use it all the time
[21:46] <dooglus> bruenig: but recently my xorg.conf vanished
[21:46] <bruenig> what about the two finger scrolling though?
[21:46] <lixh> hola amigos la sala de chat en español cual es
[21:46] <bruenig> or do you not have multi touch?
[21:46] <Flare183> !es | lixh
[21:46] <dooglus> bruenig: I used to be able to enable it by editing xorg.conf, but that seems not to be the preferred way any more
[21:47] <bruenig> dooglus: oh yeah, all of that stuff got moved out of there and put into this evdev+hal stuff
[21:47] <dooglus> bruenig: what's two-finger scrolling?
[21:47] <bruenig> dooglus: put two fingers on the touchpad and move them both up or both down and it will scroll up or down
[21:47] <trayzz> bruenig you mean multiple touch
[21:47] <kaddi> marcor1820: do you have both kde and gnome instlaled?
[21:47] <dooglus> bruenig: the thing is, my touchpad is only a coupld of inches tall
[21:48] <dooglus> and some webpages are miles high
[21:48] <bruenig> dooglus: right
[21:48] <dooglus> I want to be able to scroll continuously without constantly lifting my finger on and off the pad
[21:48] <dooglus> that's what circular scrolling does for you
[21:48] <bruenig> dooglus: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Circular_scrolling
[21:48] <bruenig> dooglus: should be exact same for ubuntu
[21:48] <dooglus> try it - you'll like it :)
[21:48] <kaddi> dooglus: use the page up/page down keys for scrolling maybe, that's how I do it
[21:48] <woodyjlw> I uploaded a file from another pc to my public folder on this pc. im runing 8.10 on this pc and I need to take ownership of the file because it has it locked. any help? thanks
[21:49] <bruenig> dooglus: the second one, the hotplugging one
[21:49] <dooglus> kaddi: I like the analogue nature of circular scrolling - I can control the speed easily
[21:49] <ctmjr> darkscrypt_: you might try sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix
[21:49] <dooglus> bruenig: any idea how to set other xorg options?  I want to enable BackingStore, for instance
[21:49] <dooglus> bruenig: I used to use xorg.conf for that too
[21:50] <frostburn> how does one download packages if ping is blocked externally?
[21:50] <Banjo348> Hey, I reformatted my windows partition the other day and it has got rid of Grub boot loader. My Linux partition is fine because I could access the files using the live disc, just wondering how do I install Grub again so I can access both OS's ? I had a google and found this http://pastesite.com/12233 is that the correct way ?
[21:50] <Banjo348> or is there an easier way like clicking a button xD
[21:50] <bruenig> dooglus: that should still be an xorg thing
[21:51] <bruenig> dooglus: Option "BackingStore" "True" under Device section
[21:51] <dooglus> bruenig: it is an xorg option, yes.  but I don't have an xorg.conf
[21:51] <woodyjlw> I uploaded a file from another pc to my public folder on this pc. im runing 8.10 on this pc and I need to take ownership of the file because it has it locked. any help? thanks
[21:51] <dooglus> bruenig: and don't know how to make one
[21:51] <bruenig> dooglus: ooooo
[21:51] <dooglus> bruenig: xxxxxx
[21:51] <DarsVaeda> banjo google for "recover grub" should bring up enough ways to do it ;)
[21:51] <bruenig> I didn't realize you did not have one at all!
[21:51] <ardchoille> !google
[21:51] <dooglus> bruenig: I installed karmic on this machine - it didn't make me an xorg.conf at all
[21:52] <Banjo348> I found ways DarsVaeda like I posted the link :P Just wanted to know if that is the correct way
[21:52] <KongfuToufu> hello everybody, how can i know which device is used by which program exactly?
[21:52] <mrqismrx> i just downloaded a ati driver from the ati site, the file has a .run extension. but how do I install this?
[21:53] <woodyjlw> lol what do you mean by google - fu ?
[21:53] <bruenig> dooglus: well try gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and put http://pastebin.org/65760 in it, save and quit, then restart X
[21:53] <dooglus> woodyjlw: like kung-fu, but for searching
[21:53] <DarsVaeda> can't tell what is the "correct" way just googled and followed this this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[21:53] <Flare183> mrqismrx: open a terminal and type in ./<insert file name here>
[21:53] <dooglus> bruenig: thanks
[21:54] <ardchoille> bruenig: wouldn't "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-sorg" generate a new xorg.conf ?
[21:54] <Retro198909> i was wondering if I should build a new pc
[21:54] <mrqismrx> Flare183, ok cool gonna test it
[21:54] <bruenig> ardchoille: shrug
[21:54] <woodyjlw> oh ok lol , I figured out with google you have to know how to word your questions to find the right answers sometimes  and it takes a lot of rewording the questions to find it
[21:54] <natewiebe13> is there a way to stop f-spot from opening when i instert a cd with images on it?
[21:54] <bruenig> ardchoille: this new fangled running without an xorg.conf thing is new to me anyhow. I still have one, but I also use hotplugging.
[21:55] <Flare183> natewiebe13: Yes,
[21:55] <ardchoille> bruenig: new to me too, I still have a bit to learn
[21:55] <natewiebe13> Flare183: and i could to that by?
[21:55] <DarsVaeda> woodyjlw...do you say you googled "google"? O_O
[21:55] <mrqismrx> Flare183, that didn't work.
[21:55] <woodyjlw> lol I mean google :)
[21:55] <Flare183> natewiebe13: Open up your home folder, goto the edit menu, preferences, click the media tab
[21:56] <Flare183> mrqismrx: You have to use cd to change to the folder in which the file is in.
[21:56] <Retro198909> Im running a amd 2.4ghz processor with 2gb ddr400 ram with a geforce 5500fx graphics card. Should I upgrade ?
[21:56] <natewiebe13> Flare183: awesome.. i knew i saw that option somewhere, i just forgot
[21:56] <natewiebe13> thanks
[21:56] <Flare183> natewiebe13: np
[21:57] <Flare183> Retro198909: Sounds Good, go for it.
[21:57] <natewiebe13> how about when i eject a cd, it still remains on the desktop
[21:57] <natewiebe13> (ejecting doesn unmount for some reason)
[21:57] <woodyjlw> what is the terminal command to take ownership of a file
[21:57] <liamo1> could someone please check the size of /usr/lib/libpthread.so for me please? I'm using ubuntu 9.10
[21:57] <Flare183> natewiebe13: you have to right click and tell it to eject sometimes, its a bug
[21:58] <jmyers> ok, WinXP is installing on the virtual machine.
[21:58] <rustyshackleford> Retro198909: i'm running a 900mhz processor machine from '99. it has 9.10 on it and runs surprisingly well. that said i don't open more than 3 tabs at once, and don't use a resource intensive text editor like emacs
[21:58] <DarsVaeda> @liamo1: -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 218 2009-10-07 11:09 /usr/lib/libpthread.so
[21:58] <skorasaurus2> !temperature
[21:58] <skorasaurus2> !temps
[21:58] <Flare183> ...
[21:59] <liamo1> Thanks DarsVaeda. If I use nm on that it says it does not recognise the file format?
[21:59] <kaddi> maybe !sensors ?
[21:59] <Flare183> liamo1: Its 120K
[21:59] <silver> woodyjlw: chown owner:group
[22:00] <Flare183> kaddi: That's what I was thinking too
[22:00] <linux0g>    wow, alot of netsplits
[22:00] <CounterfeitGod> if I'm ssh'd into my box as root, can I view other users processes? if I can, how?
[22:00] <Flare183> CounterfeitGod: ps -ea
[22:00] <CounterfeitGod> thanks :)
[22:00] <Retro198909> rustyshackleford: would dual core be much better or not?
[22:00] <Flare183> CounterfeitGod: np
[22:01] <liamo1> Everything is working fine on my system but mine is 216 bytes???? Flare183
[22:01] <Flare183> liamo1: I don't know what to tell you :S
[22:01] <rustyshackleford> Retro198909: more is better, but i'm not a hardware guy - i think you want #computer  -- might be on efnet
[22:02] <vis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1290333&page=5 anyone have any experience with the website referenced in this thread?
[22:03] <CounterfeitGod> Retro198909, Yes, as a general rule dual core is better.. most people don't need use more than a few ghz anyway. I have a 1.6 ghz dualcore and it works better for me than a 3.0 ghz single core
[22:03] <twi> good day
[22:04] <FuzzyKittens> okay, I need to remove the stupid warning that tells me to "hit enter" when I'm shutting down my server... seeing as it doesn't have a keyboard attatched to it
[22:04] <Flare183> !hi | twi
[22:04] <edyn> is there any wifi noise/level graph plotter for ubuntu?
[22:04] <Sacho> FuzzyKittens: how do you tell it to shutdown?
[22:04] <occy> For some reason... I have "Searching for available drivers..." stuck on my screen after I went to: System > Administration > Hardware Drivers
[22:04] <FuzzyKittens> Sacho: shutdown now
[22:04] <Retro198909> CounterfeitGod: I wonder if I should just build another pc
[22:04] <epinky> edyn: gnuplot
[22:04] <Flare183> FuzzyKittens: sudo shutdown -P now
[22:04] <epinky> edyn: sry, er
[22:05] <FuzzyKittens> Flare183: I'm running it as rewt
[22:05] <Flare183> o.O rewt?
[22:05] <Sacho> root
[22:05] <Retro198909> my motherboard is a socket 939
[22:05] <Flare183> oh ok
[22:05] <CounterfeitGod> Retro198909, I don't know... I guess it depends on your situation. Since this doesn't pertain to ubuntu or linux do you think we should take this to PM?
[22:05] <FuzzyKittens> Flare183: yes, root
[22:05] <edyn> epinky: np =]
[22:05] <jmyers> EVERY time I try and install Flash for my browers, I get a dialogue box that says 'Could not find package 'adobe-flashplugin'.  When I try running sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin from a terminal, I get the same error.  What am I screwing up here?
[22:05] <edyn> epinky: im trying wifistatd but i think it is not well developed =P
[22:05] <Flare183> Sacho, FuzzyKittens: Then just do it like this: shutdown -P now && exit
[22:06] <Flare183> or well that's how I do it via ssh
[22:06] <FuzzyKittens> ah
[22:06] <FuzzyKittens> I shall run a shell script for it then
[22:06] <Hubi25> siema
[22:06] <FuzzyKittens>  /bin/stfu
[22:06] <epinky> edyn: for what would you want that? site survey?
[22:06] <Flare183> Hubi25: ?
[22:06] <silver> Does anyone know how to restore a programm if the trayicon in the notification area has disappeared?
[22:07] <Guest8874> when using baobab, why does it indicate usage and size (and content) of the folders? does linux somehow reserve space for folders?
[22:07] <Flare183> silver: Kill it and start it again
[22:07] <Hubi25> siema = hi in polish language
[22:07] <FuzzyKittens> silver: alt-tab?
[22:07] <quizme_> hi
[22:07] <woodyjlw> I need help with chown. I have cd to the folder where the file is with terminal and I am not root so I think I will need sudo first before I take ownership of file right?
[22:07] <Hubi25> ;)
[22:08] <quizme_> how do you add a program to automatically start after you login in karmic koala?
[22:08] <FuzzyKittens> woodyjlw: or be the owner
[22:08] <Flare183> quizme_: Add it to the Startup Applications window
[22:09] <newfielander> hi, I had a dual boot (winxp-ubuntu)  I needed more space so i formated the ubuntu drive in winxp.  so when i boot, i now get grub error 17.  i can't find my winxp disc to do the repair, and i don't want to install ubuntu again (just yet) because i never backed up those files yet :(    Is there a way to fix the mbr from ubuntu (i'm booting 9.04 livecd) so that I can boot back into winxp?
[22:09] <Flare183> quizme_: System Menu, Preferences, Startup Applications.
[22:09] <Firefishe> How can I restore my pulseaudio tray icon (padevchooser) in Karkmic (running kde 4.3.4 desktop)?
[22:09] <woodyjlw> it is a file I uploaded from windows 7 to public folder on 8.10 and has me locked out
[22:09] <quizme_> ok found it thank you
[22:09] <silver> FuzzyKittens: alt-tab is not possible because there exist no window for the program when it is minimized in tray
[22:09] <Firefishe> Karmic rather
[22:09] <FuzzyKittens> newfielander: you need to either put a grub partition or use the super grub disk to fix the MBR
[22:10] <FuzzyKittens> and on that note
[22:10] <newfielander> what if I have no method of burning cd's or dvd's :(
[22:10] <jmyers> OK VirtualBox gurus.  More drama.  I detest this AMD64 board.  when I'm installing from my WinXP cd, I get this error: File acpe.sys caused an unexpected error (as if errors are ever expected?) (3072) at line 5897 in d:\xpsp1\base\boot\setup\setup.c.  Please press any key to continue, and it reboots and starts all over.
[22:11] <jmyers> that's file acpi, not acpe
[22:11] <Guest8874> who here is in charge of #ubuntu-nl?
[22:11] <newfielander> fuzzykittens: thanks for super grub disk nfo
[22:13] <FloodBot4> !netsplit
[22:13] <woodyjlw> can someone who is knowledgeable with chown PM me? I need some help getting ownership of one of my files
[22:13] <MK13> is the method behind a wubi install (using file as virtual harddrive) applicable to only ubuntu or can it be used with other OS's too?
[22:14] <_CommandeR_> how do you change grub2 resolution ?
[22:14] <vbruchem> will the net merge together again?
[22:14] <epinky> Guest83942: why?
[22:15] <_CommandeR_> how do you change grub2 resolution ?
[22:15] <Hans_Henrik> MK13: http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php
[22:16] <tangentcollision> okay, so my SSH is still running really incredibly slow
[22:17] <MK13> Hans_Henrik, i am not asking specifially about wubi, but the method behind it
[22:18] <Snoothy> Is karmic having a lot of trouble handling raid array?
[22:19] <epinky> !pm | woodyjlw
[22:19] <vbruchem> my question is answered, not by you but ok
[22:20] <cyphase> I've got a weird problem.. I just got a ViewSonic VA1916w that's capable of 1440x900. It was working at 1440x900 at first, but now it's not. If I plug in my old non-widescreen monitor, I can choose 1440x900, then plug in the viewsonic, and it works. However, next time i logout or reboot, it's back to not allowing 1440x900. Any ideas?
[22:21] <SireOrion> can i run a netinstall from a floppy
[22:22] <bgjsl> tell me cyphase
[22:23] <buttons840> so i have a text file and the little preview icon shows the text which is in the file, but when i attempt to open it it say the character encoding is not supported?
[22:23] <bgjsl> cyphase do recovery mode
[22:23] <epinky> SireOrion: you can use PXE, if your netcard is PXE capable
[22:24] <woodyjlw> epinky, I did not think about the pm being rude so I will take that into consideration from now on and I have been trying to get some help with chown so I can take ownership of a file but I think most of the users in here may be busy and cant get to me at the moment so I will keep trying... thanks :)
[22:24] <cyphase> bgjsl: then what?
[22:24] <bgjsl> with that should be ok
[22:24] <anzo> hello all it seems an update borked my system and now its trying to boot into sdb1 instead of sda1. I have attempted a grub reload but i am still gettin a busy box error. please help
[22:24] <Sacho> woodyjlw: sudo chown?
[22:25] <SireOrion> can i run a netinstall from a floppy
[22:25] <woodyjlw> Sacho,  yes
[22:25] <bgjsl> the problem is graphic card
[22:25] <cyphase> bgjsl: what about it? it was working before
[22:25] <Sacho> but what's the problem?
[22:26] <epaphus> Are all the skype versions for linux betas??
[22:26] <rustyshackleford> can I resize an ext3 partition while booted into it?
[22:26] <woodyjlw> Sacho,  I uploaded a file to my public folder on 8.10 from a windows 7 pc and the file is locked and says no owner and I cant get access from properties
[22:26] <boscop> in transmission there is an option to connect to tracker via a proxy. why only to the tracker?
[22:26] <cyphase> bots are managing bots? who's brilliant idea was that? :)
[22:26] <vis> does anyone run ubuntu on a dell mini 10v?
[22:27] <zvacet> rustyshackleford : no partition must be unmounted if you want to resize it
[22:27] <bgjsl> yeah but the ponit is that you can not fix it widescreen in certain  graphic card correctely
[22:27] <vis> cyphase: Bots are managing bots who are managing people.. even worse
[22:27] <woodyjlw> Sacho,  maybe I should pull the files from windows instead of upload from windows?
[22:27] <cyphase> vis: ah yes.. what has the world come to?
[22:28] <bgjsl> vis do it by usb
[22:28] <vis> bgjsl: It's coming pre-installed :)
[22:28] <JumboJellyfish> question: I just installed kubuntu (8.04) on a shuttle PC... I get to the log in screen, but when I enter my username/password and try to login, the monitor goes black (says no signal) and then returns to the login screen!
[22:28] <vis> 8.04 I think, with Dell repos etc
[22:28] <Sacho> woodyjlw: what happens if you chown them to your user?
[22:28] <bgjsl> aahh ok ..understand
[22:29] <zvacet> rustyshackleford : you can use your ubuntu live CD for that or gparted live Cd witch you can download from http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[22:29] <epinky> woodyjlw: what are you using to upload your file?
[22:29] <bgjsl> what is the problem do you have now??
[22:29] <vis> I have to wait to get it! lol
[22:29] <rustyshackleford> zvacet: thanks
[22:29] <hipitihop> the vlc build 1.0.2 in Karmic does not built with the upnp_intel module, is this something I can install as a plugin or what do I do ?
[22:29] <woodyjlw> Sacho,  ahh... that is what I need help with. I do not know how to do the chown in my terminal , still new to linux
[22:29] <bgjsl> ok
[22:29] <zvacet> rustyshackleford . np
[22:29] <vis> bgjsl: It's being delivered next week, and when I get it I'm hopinh to fix a little problem thats been bugging me for a while with ubuntu
[22:30] <vis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1290333&page=5
[22:30] <bastid_raZor> woodyjlw: for almost all command line commands there is a man page. type man chown
[22:30] <woodyjlw> epinky,  im uploading across a network from windows 7 to a public folder on ubuntu
[22:30] <mMezquitale> what distribution to surf the net securely would someone recommend?
[22:30] <zvacet> !permissions | woodyjlw
[22:30] <vis> basically the extreme dodginess of divx streaming
[22:30] <anzo> hello guys, i am trying to reinstall grub again, and now i am getting this error in terminal (am on live cd) sudo: fdisk-l: command not found
[22:31] <anzo> is that normal?
[22:31] <vis> it's "sudo fdisk -l" with a space
[22:31] <mMezquitale> anzo, youre typing it wrong
[22:31] <ae86-drifter> anzo fdisk-1 is not a command
[22:31] <occy> I don't see the ability to do WEP 128 on the wireless connection thingy in Ubuntu
[22:31] <vis> lower case L
[22:32] <vis> wow, that might be the first time I've actually managed to help someone with linux
[22:32] <vis> lol
[22:32] <occy> all I see is tunnel , tunneled tls , protected
[22:32] <bgjsl> anzo no it is not
[22:32] <bgjsl> recovery mode
[22:32] <karma_police> i have a dumb question.. how do you tell if you are running 32 or 64 bit?
[22:32] <epinky> woodyjlw: where is your upload(shared directory) located?
[22:32] <anzo> i am not typing it with a 1 i am using an L
[22:32] <Pricey> karma_police: uname -a probably has it in there
[22:32] <zvacet> karma_police : type in terminal uname -a
[22:32] <JumboJellyfish> question: I just installed kubuntu (8.04) on a shuttle PC... I get to the log in screen, but when I enter my username/password and try to login, the monitor goes black (says no signal) and then returns to the login screen!
[22:33] <Pricey> karma_police: i686 is 32bit
[22:33] <epinky> woodyjlw: /home/ ...?
[22:33] <chasedawg1> how do you set up emerald?
[22:33] <woodyjlw> in the home folder there is one called public and I shared it so I could send files from windows pc
[22:33] <karma_police> x86_64
[22:33] <vis> anzo: copy and paste into terminal "sudo fdisk -l" without quotes
[22:33] <coolman> anyway to automate installation of addons in firefox ????????????????+
[22:33] <bastid_raZor> !emerald | chasedawg1
[22:33] <zvacet> karma_police : 64 bit
[22:33] <karma_police> cool.. i didn't know if there was an app like system monitor that showed it
[22:34] <vis> anzo: that should list your hard drives
[22:34] <epinky> woodyjlw: /home/public ?
[22:34] <chasedawg1> ubottu: so should i just not worry about it?
[22:34] <vis> !ubottu
[22:34] <woodyjlw> epinky, /home/jeremy/Public
[22:34] <mMezquitale> JumboJellyfish, try logging in using a console, "ctrl-alt-f1" will send you to a console, "ctr-alt-f7" brings you to GUI mode
[22:34] <vis> does anyone use ninjavideo.net?
[22:34] <mataks> im using karmic koala.  how to remove or edit grub2 to remove old kernels on my boot list..
[22:35] <epinky> woodyjlw: your user is jeremy, right?
[22:35] <SireOrion> can i run a netinstall from a floppy
[22:35] <JumboJellyfish> mMezquitale, tried
[22:35] <eliot_> in ubuntu 9.10 when i search for a program in the software center it shows up but it wont let me install it
[22:35] <JumboJellyfish> also reconf'd xorg
[22:35] <woodyjlw> epinky,  yes
[22:35] <vis> eliot_: what error messages?
[22:35] <zvacet> !grub2 | mataks
[22:35] <gunnar> i have installed vnc4server...but i cant connect to it(local area network)..
[22:35] <eliot_> i dont get an error message there just isnt an install button
[22:35] <gunnar> how do i check if it works?
[22:36] <epaphus> Hello, how can I install Thunderbird 3 in ubuntu?
[22:36] <vis> you may already have it
[22:36] <mMezquitale> mataks, there's a utility in karmic for you to do that, try computer janitor
[22:36] <ae86-drifter> eliot_ use synaptic package manager
[22:36] <JumboJellyfish> mMezquitale, also uninstalled/reinstalled kde4/kdm/gdm, restarted them etc... nothing works :(
[22:36] <epinky> woodyjlw: open a terminal an type: sudo chown -R jeremy /home/jeremy/Public
[22:36] <Firefishe> eliot_: have you considered using apt-get on the command line?
[22:37] <eliot_> o ya forgot about that thanks
[22:37] <eliot_> eliot@eliot-desktop:~$ sudo aptitude install lives
[22:37] <eliot_> [sudo] password for eliot:
[22:37] <eliot_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[22:37] <eliot_> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[22:37] <eliot_> Reading package lists... Done
[22:37] <FloodBot2> eliot_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:37] <eliot_> Building dependency tree
[22:37] <mMezquitale> JumboJellyfish, dont know much about KDE, I only use gnome but if you cant even get a console then something is very broken, you might want to try #kubuntu
[22:38] <Firefishe> eliot_: otherwise, I use synaptic for both kde and gnome
[22:38] <rww> eliot_: You can only have one package manager open at a time. Close Software Center or Synaptic before using aptitude.
[22:38] <JumboJellyfish> mMezquitale, i get consoles
[22:38] <kyanardag> how can i view a core dump file in ubuntu?
[22:38] <bastid_raZor> eliot_: you have synaptic or another instance of apt-get running? aptitude?
[22:38] <DopeGhoti> eliot_: or the Software Center?
[22:38] <eliot_> yay it works thanks
[22:38] <rww> eliot_: also, there is an install button in Software Center. Click the package in the list of packages, click the arrow button on the right, click Install.
[22:39] <Yancho_> hi what is the best option to backup a 160hdd (only around 10gb max used) into a 40hdd please? i need backups every night if possible? rsync ?
[22:40] <mMezquitale> JumboJellyfish, if the console works then you might want to update the system see if that fixes it or try changing video drivers
[22:40] <woodyjlw> epinky,  thank you very much that worked and the lock is now gone. if I pull files from windows instead of upload from windows do you think the permissions will be different?
[22:40] <JumboJellyfish> trie
[22:40] <JumboJellyfish> df
[22:42] <epinky> woodyjlw: I suggest you to use WinSCP, and Sshd on Ubuntu, that way never fails
[22:42] <mrnicelupe> WinSCP \o/
[22:43] <woodyjlw> epinky, where do I find winscp and sshd?
[22:43] <centHOGG> !winscp
[22:43] <Yancho_> woodyjlw,  sshd = openssl .. and winscp - wincscp.net
[22:43] <epaphus> Hello, how can I install Thunderbird 3 in ubuntu?
[22:44] <Tiders> What Linux modules do I need to download to get my lm-sensors updated to support newest hardware
[22:44] <tyler> msg nickserv ghost Vonnick hm345ke90irgt6i6m6p
[22:44] <woodyjlw> Yancho_,  ok thanks
[22:44] <Vonnick> msg nickserv identify hm345ke90irgt6i6m6p
[22:44] <vis> what should I use as my video output on gnome-mplayer? and what do I put under "mplayer executable"?
[22:44] <epinky> woodyjlw: in Ubuntu install openssh-server via Synaptic
[22:45] <Guest50986> msg nickserv ghost Vonnick hm345ke90irgt6i6m6p
[22:45] <syn-ack> WTF
[22:45]  * syn-ack hands dude a /
[22:45] <vis> lol
[22:45] <mcherifi> :D
[22:45] <DopeGhoti> Guest50986: time to change your password.
[22:45] <epinky> ouch!
[22:46] <vis> that is one serious password
[22:46] <mrnicelupe> Slightly random password, isn't it? o.o
[22:46] <vis> I wouldn't want to type that out every time
[22:46]  * vis hands a mothers maiden name
[22:46] <DopeGhoti> cat /dev/urandom | head | m4d > ~/my.password ;)
[22:46] <DopeGhoti> s/m5d/md5/
[22:47] <DopeGhoti> bah, you get what I'm trying to say :p
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[22:47] <syn-ack> heh
[22:47] <vis> nearly
[22:47] <vis> that sounds interesting tho.. could you explain that?
[22:47] <Vonnick> Well, that was lame
[22:48] <Vonnick> Slash key didn't work
[22:49] <mrnicelupe> Vonnick, should learn to identify in the server window, not a channel (:
[22:49] <syn-ack> Vonnick: ouch,
[22:49] <syn-ack> exactly
[22:49] <DopeGhoti> vis: cat /dev/urandom | head | md5sum | awk '{print $1}'   ← Generates a relatively secure password instantly
[22:49] <syn-ack> that was kinda funny though
[22:49] <BallsOfSteel> so nobody | awk '{print $2}'` do slave la
[22:49] <BallsOfSteel> of funny
[22:49] <Vonnick> vis: Random letters and numbers + memory = Learn to type it damn fast
[22:49] <BallsOfSteel> maybe somebody has vandalized that infobot (on a lot of numbers
[22:50] <LITesterB> old style
[22:50] <BallsOfSteel> he lived in braunau am trying to reinstall msysgit using unix style
[22:50] <BallsOfSteel> novaaesa
[22:51] <BallsOfSteel> ghostlines
[22:53] <LimCore> hello, does Ubuntu include FTP client? That works? And does not crash always on use like gftp
[22:53] <DopeGhoti> LimCore: yes: 'ftp'. If it's not pre-installed, apt-get install ftp
[22:53] <LimCore> ah right, I ment a GUI one
[22:53] <BallsOfSteel> natewiebe13: you to gui mode
[22:53] <DopeGhoti> LimCore: if you're looking for a GUI client, I reccoment FileZilla
[22:53] <BallsOfSteel> limcore: yes: 'ftp'
[22:53] <epinky> LimCore: Filezilla
[22:54] <Vonnick> FileZilla = SupremeWin
[22:54] <epaphus> Hello, how can I install Thunderbird 3 in ubuntu?
[22:54] <coz_> LimCore,   or gft
[22:54] <Vonnick> Add the daily-mozilla ppa
[22:54] <BallsOfSteel> `akick add signals just don't work
[22:54] <LjL> there is also 'foff'
[22:54] <Vonnick> And do apt-get install thunderbird-3.0
[22:55] <Vonnick> Then disable the ppa in software sources so Firefox doesn't get upgraded to a beta
[22:55] <khelvan> Hi, I had a laptop running Jaunty without issues, and I've upgraded it to Karmic. Now I have occasional wireless issues, where the wireless light will flash blue/amber/blue/amber constantly, and can no longer connect, and then when I try to reboot I get an error that forces me to cut off power as it can't shut down properly. Any ideas?
[22:56] <dooglus> bruenig: that pastebin thing you asked me to put in xorg.conf stopped me from being able to boot my laptop
[22:56] <dooglus> bruenig: oddly even the virtual terminals are corrupted, so I can't remove it
[22:57] <Vonnick> boot from the live cd and delete the xorg.conf
[22:57] <BallsOfSteel> when i need to put in xorg.conf
[22:57] <bastid_raZor> dooglus: you have a liveCD? you can remove it that way.
[22:57] <BallsOfSteel> there no way of simulating having a lot of their system and and occasional java way.
[22:57] <buttons840> should there be a blank new line at the end of files?   .py files?
[22:57] <BallsOfSteel> dasei
[22:57] <dooglus> bastid_raZor: I booted into recovery mode or some such to remove it
[22:57] <BallsOfSteel> i'm trying to reinstall grub partition while booted into goth goods
[22:58] <bastid_raZor> dooglus: you're on 9.10? if so, what key did you hit during grub to get a recovery shell?
[22:58] <BallsOfSteel> dooglus: you have a = -2, so what's my best friend, the place where php terminates the connection
[22:59] <epaphus> Hello, how can I install Thunderbird 3 in ubuntu?
[22:59] <bastid_raZor> epaphus: download the .deb from the thunderbird site and install with dpkg or double click it.
[22:59] <LjL> epaphus: vonnik replied to your question already
[23:00] <justine777w> downloaded live cd to usb but computer wont read usb help?
[23:00] <BallsOfSteel> anyone help?
[23:00] <bastid_raZor> epaphus: and yes, vonnick's idea is better.
[23:00] <BallsOfSteel> a core is better.
[23:00] <epaphus> hmm
[23:00] <ofn> hello. i'm trying to follow a guide called "howto-via-chrome9-igp-on-ubuntu-linux", but don't know what to do when i'm supposed to add <Driver "openchrome"> in xorg.conf. i've read it's gone in 9.10. anyone know how to do this? i probably can't paste the link to the guide without getting kicked
[23:01] <jrib> ofn: you should probably say why you want to follow the guide at all as there may be a better way to accomplish it.  And why would you get kicked for pasting a link/
[23:01] <justine777w> write to disc?
[23:01] <Peter-netbook> Hey folks.
[23:02] <DasEi> justine777w: you want a bootable thumbdrive or install from usb ?
[23:02] <BallsOfSteel> rouslan: you have oss4 supports usb sound cards file does list your hard drives are slower when being written in python 6 by samsung?
[23:02] <BallsOfSteel> xjcook
[23:02] <jrib> BallsOfSteel: are you a bot?
[23:02] <BallsOfSteel> is a bot?
[23:03] <justine777w> dasEi: live cd to run fsck
[23:03] <epinky> epaphus: http://pastebin.com/m7f18d229
[23:03] <vis> is it easy to set ubuntu 8.04 to boot into a console, rather than gdm?
[23:03] <justine777w> dasEi: I am writing it to disc right now. hopefully it works.
[23:04] <ofn> jrib, i want to install drivers for my via chipset on my amilo v2035. this is the guide: http://www.hombrepac.com.ar/software-libre/howto-via-chrome9-igp-on-ubuntu-linux/
[23:04] <DasEi> justine777w: and have got a running ubuntu, use unetbootin or usbcreator then
[23:04] <dre360> hey all
[23:04] <Peter-netbook> Question for the knoweldgeable folks; I'm trying to boot into a live session from a freshly made 9.10 UNR bootable off a Kingston 2GB stick just bought today, made with Unetbootin.  It gets through the first parts but then gets to the loading screen ( with spining dial ) and stays there indefinately.  this is on HP Mini 1115NR.  Haven't found anything yet on the forums.
[23:04] <justine777w> DasEi: do you think that writing it from the usb to cd disc is okay?
[23:04] <Peter-netbook> Anyone have an idea of cause /
[23:05] <dre360> I got a aspire 5517 an no lan drivers working any help
[23:05] <dre360> wlan0 working
[23:05] <vis> !please
[23:05] <jrib> !info xserver-xorg-video-openchrome | ofn
[23:05] <jrib> ofn: the drivers are in the repositories
[23:05] <vis> !ubottu | vis
[23:05] <DasEi> justine777w: if you just copied the *.iso,  can burn it from there, also :
[23:05] <KaffeeJunky123> Hey I've got problems with copying data from an ntfs partition to an ext4 partition with Ubuntu Jaunty Jackalope, it's copying only 4mb/s, I've got the ntfs-3g package installed.
[23:06] <DasEi> !md5sum |  justine777w
[23:06] <epaphus> epinky, Vonnick, bastid_raZor ...  I did add the ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa/ as per: http://pastebin.com/m7f18d229 .. when I do apt-get install thunderbird-3.0 thunderbird-3.0-gnome-support  it installs Shredder 3 which is not thunderbird 3
[23:06] <Snausages> Peter-netbook: have you tried booting any other images from that stick?  just to isolate whether it's the software, the preparation or the media?
[23:06] <justine777w> DasEi: i do not understand, but the cd is done so i am going to try that
[23:06] <dre360> any help
[23:06] <dre360> aspire 5517 lan drivers
[23:06] <justine777w> DasEi: if i need any more help, i will come back
[23:06] <DasEi> justine777w: k, use the cd option to check media least
[23:06] <Peter-netbook> I hadn't yet.. good thought.. hrmph.. dont have any other images handy.. i'll go grab DSL
[23:07] <dre360> or any way to get it to work
[23:07] <epinky> epaphus: huh? could you explain that to me better? :)
[23:07] <Snausages> dre360: I don't know that model.  my aspire just worked automagically
[23:07] <mMezquitale> Peter-netbook, try using 9.04
[23:07] <dre360> Snausges do I am updating
[23:07] <bgjsl> guys chrome came to conquer  linux
[23:07] <gecko2_> I have a problem with trying to get the buttons on my Aiptek Slim tablet to work. i have found supports for Jaunty Jackalope (9.04 i believe) but not for Karmic Koala.
[23:08] <epaphus> epinky, i did *exactly* as per http://pastebin.com/m7f18d229
[23:08] <ofn> jrib, thanks alot, but do i need to change "Vesa" with "openchrome" as it says in the tutorial?
[23:08] <dre360> Snausages thanks tho
[23:08] <jrib> ofn: yes
[23:09] <epinky> epaphus: not that part, I meant Shredder part
[23:09] <dre360> O I am using bt4 tho
[23:09] <dre360> ubuntu build
[23:09] <dre360> :)
[23:09] <Snausages> what's bt4?
[23:09] <ofn> jrib, ok, where?
[23:09] <epaphus> epinky, following exactly those instructions.. the new version of Shredder is installed . not thunderbird3
[23:09] <Vonnick> epaphus Shredder 3 is the codename for Thunderbird 3
[23:09] <jrib> ofn: same place, xorg.conf
[23:09] <dre360> Snausges it's a pentesting os
[23:09] <dre360> google it
[23:10] <dre360> backtrack 4
[23:10] <mr_engineer> hi
[23:10] <Vonnick> Like naoroko, or whatever for Firefox
[23:10] <mr_engineer> Grub is not showing me all the entries in menu.lst
[23:10] <mr_engineer> help?
[23:11] <ofn> jrib, xorg.conf is not in /etc/X11/ - do i need to create xorg.conf manually and add one line saying "Driver "openchrome""?
[23:11] <jrib> ofn: yes
[23:11] <epaphus> Vonnick, can you please elaborate that a little better?
[23:11] <jrib> ofn: you need to create a valid xorg.conf not just that line
[23:11] <Cyclist2> Hello, there! I don't know how to have my external hard drives automaticaly mounted [in fact, I cannot access them at all...!] as I switch to another user account on my Jaunty 9.04; only the hard drive is mounted and to everything I tried so far [from the main account] I get a 'operation not permitted']
[23:12] <hozza> hello
[23:12] <ofn> jrib, okay, but that's just too advanced for me...
[23:12] <DasEi> mr_engineer: in the file itself it's commented, the option howmany lets you set the count of entries
[23:12] <jrib> ofn: k
[23:12] <Vonnick> epaphus, Until a Mozilla product is in the official Ubuntu repos, it's considered a beta. All programs in the mozilla-daily are unofficial and are beta releases
[23:12] <Vonnick> So they are code named
[23:12] <epinky> epaphus: "Thunderbird 3 Shredder", yes that's the complete name
[23:12] <Cyclist2> sorry: only the *internal* hard drive is mounted
[23:13] <javatexan> is there a handy dandy way to get what major packages I have installed and who asked that they are installed?
[23:13] <vis> Cyclist2: I have a good app for that actually.. 1 sec
[23:13] <vis> It should do it automatically, have you tried unplugging and repluggins?
[23:13] <vis> *replugging
[23:14] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[23:14] <DasEi> javatexan: dpkg - l  lists your packages, though not the installers user
[23:14] <mr_engineer> DasEi, look, I think grub is not reading my menu.lst correctly. Because howmany is commented and because it has no vista entries, however grub does display an entry for booting into vista
[23:14] <syn-ack> javatexan: well, there's only one user who can install any apps and do what DasEi just said
[23:14] <Cyclist2> vis, no I did not do that; I simply switch back to the main account and try to fix things from there...
[23:15] <ofn> jrib, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/create-a-xorgconf-file.html <- coolio?
[23:15] <mr_engineer> DasEi, http://paste.ubuntu.com/343067/
[23:15] <DasEi> syn-ack: well, any user in sudoers can
[23:15] <javatexan> DasEi: ah okay...I have to rebuild this box, so I was trying to get a list of the stuff I need to add to new install.  Just the major stuff, I know several of the packages I added added like 100 others as dependences, but I just need the high level ones....
[23:15] <DasEi> !clone | javatexan
[23:15] <jrib> ofn: don't know, I just write mine from scratch
[23:16] <Danielle> every time i try to at a music downloader, it tells me i cant run it while the update manager is running, but i dont know how to close the update manager and if i try to let it do updates it says i have to manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' and i dont know what to do i need help!
[23:16] <gecko2_> Will the back ways to get a Aiptek slim tablet working on Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope also work on Ubuntu 9.1 Karmic Koala?
[23:16] <syn-ack> DasEi: right but its still going to show up as root unless he set sudo up to log which user called sudo which, iirc ubuntu does not do by default
[23:16] <flo`> hi. i ran a do-release-upgrade on intrepid but in the middle the mount on the apt archive dir was lost (autofs!) and it dismissed several pkg , bin-utils, gcc ...
[23:16] <ofn> jrib, thanks
[23:16] <flo`> can i just repeat ? seems as it's target is still jaunty
[23:16] <ActionParsnip> Danielle: run: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:16] <mr_engineer> Where does grub2 takes its menu entries? I was just told that grub 2 does not use menu.lst file
[23:16] <Om3Ddragon> does anyone here use google chrome well they have the deb package now and this version is just fast as firefox
[23:17] <Danielle> how do i do that though?
[23:17] <DasEi> synh-ack: y
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> Danielle: in a terminal
[23:17] <ActionParsnip> !terminal | Danielle
[23:17] <Cyclist2> vis, you see? I have programs running on the main user account that would be affected if I were to unplug the external hard drives...; or were you suggesting I would only have to do it that initial time and then never again...?
[23:17] <mataks> im using karmic koala.  how to remove or edit grub2 to remove old kernels on my boot list.. . newbie here
[23:18] <DasEi> mr_engineer: you got a chainload to grub2, there will be the vista
[23:18] <mMezquitale> mr_engineer, 40_custom
[23:18] <Danielle> i dont know how to do any of that
[23:18] <javatexan> ah sweet!!! I knew I liked ubuntu for something ;)
[23:18] <bastid_raZor>    mataks uninstall the kernel instead of manually removing them from grub.
[23:18] <mr_engineer> hating this netsplit things
[23:18] <vicious> hi, how do i set permissions on ntfs drives? i have ntfs-3g and ntfs-config installed
[23:18] <mr_engineer> mMezquitale, what was that?
[23:18] <justine777w> DasEi: can i pm you?
[23:18] <ActionParsnip> mataks: if you use http://pastebin.com    to give the output of: uname -a; dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[23:18] <mMezquitale> mr_engineer, what OS youre trying to configure for grub???
[23:19] <vis> Cyclist2: sorry, I can't find the name of the software I used to configure my hard drives. It's like a graphical editor for fstab, if anyone else knows it
[23:19] <DasEi> mataks: /etc/default/grub
[23:19] <will__> bonsoir tout le monde... y aurait il un francais sympa qui pourrait venir en aide à un linuxien débutant qui regrette déja son passage à ubuntu ???
[23:19] <mr_engineer> mMezquitale, ubuntu, but i want to know why the new kernel i installed is not listed even after i did update-grub
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> Danielle: look at the top of the screen, see tha pplications menu? click it, then hover your mouse over accessories, then  click terminal
[23:19] <DasEi> justine777w: why ? more eyey, more advice
[23:19] <mMezquitale> DasEi, it's 40_custom
[23:19] <ActionParsnip> Danielle: you will need to put some effort in
[23:19] <Danielle> ok, then what
[23:19] <DasEi> eyes*, justine777w
[23:19] <justine777w> DasEi: or u can help me here.
[23:20] <Danielle> i am putting effort i just have no idea how anything works
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> Danielle: then type: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:20] <vis> Danielle: don't be put off or scared. this will be a lot easier once everything is set up and you're used to it - it won't take too long!
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> Danielle: the factoid that ubottu told you as basically what I told you but with not every tiny little detail
[23:20] <ActionParsnip> Danielle: read it again:
[23:20] <mMezquitale> mr_engineer, is the new kernel using its own "/boot" partition?  If not grub could add by running grub-probe then grub-update
[23:21] <ActionParsnip> !terminal | Danielle
[23:21] <Danielle> i did, it said command not founf
[23:21] <vicious> how do i enable permissions on ntfs drives? Thanks in advance
[23:21] <mr_engineer> is there a way to hide these in xchat? seriously its annoying
[23:21] <mataks> ActionParsnip, here http://pastebin.com/d2ca30b28
[23:21] <LimCore> woot
[23:21] <justine777w> DasEi: I was told to DL a live cd and then go to use ubuntu without making changes to computer and typing in fsck code and then rebooting and my "no space left on disc problem" would be solved and i could update again, but it did not work. Suggestions?
[23:21] <LimCore> in 30 minutes of using Ubuntu I found 2 more crash-bugs
[23:21] <mr_engineer> mMezquitale, no.. everything its on the same partition... I just installed a new kernel
[23:21] <SirCharles> I've got a strange question, how can I reboot the USB live cd without loosing stuff I installed since the livecd clears all changes when I shut down
[23:21] <noelito> Hi, I am trying to auto mount a win XP share using autofs but it is not working. I got it mount using mount.ctfs but autofs is not working for me. Can anybody help me with this?
[23:22] <Cyclist2> vis, I have no problem at all as the user on the main account; it is just that I assumed that as another user I should have access to those external hard drive [at least to *read* if not to *read and write*]; I tried to change groups, to change owner, etc.
[23:22] <DasEi> mataks: /etc/grub.d/40_custom also lets you alter menu, as mezq.. said
[23:22] <DasEi> justine777w: delete some files btw how big is your partition ?
[23:22] <mr_engineer> mMezquitale, also grub-probe needs a path,should that be boot?
[23:23] <mr_engineer> i am very carefull with my system, yes
[23:23] <mMezquitale> mr_engineer, try running grub-probe then grub-update, if that doesn't work then create a manual entry in "/etc/grub.d/40_custom", the one thing to remember is that grub begins counting from 1, so instead of hd0, you will use hd1
[23:23] <justine777w> DasEi: it says my partition is full but its not and i dont know which files to delete
[23:23] <DasEi> justine777w: are you in live now ?
[23:23] <trism> mMezquitale: grub2 counds hard drives from 0, but partitions from 1
[23:23] <mr_engineer> mMezquitale, but which path should I pass to grub-probe?
[23:23] <justine777w> no
[23:23] <justine777w> DasEi: no
[23:24] <DasEi> justine777w:boot to live, come here again, so we can examine
[23:24] <justine777w> DasEi: ok
[23:24] <Peter-netbook> Snaseges ; DSL ran fine off the same disk, so I re downloaded UNR from the website and will try it off a diff thumb drive ; it might just be a bad DL
[23:24] <mr_engineer> mMezquitale, never mind, I read the --help and I think I got it.. Ill come back soon
[23:24] <Cyclist2> vis, I understand that those HDs belong to the main user but when I tried to change the permissions with <chmod> to allow group members and/or others to access them I encountered the same barrier: 'operation not permitted'
[23:24] <ActionParsnip> mataks: http://pastebin.com/m43c29b85
[23:25] <studentz> After I login my lap get freeze, Ubuntu Karmic Openchrome drive Help me pleeeeese :(
[23:25] <SirCharles> DasEi: Do you think you might be able to answer my question, is there a way to reboot liveCD without loosing data that I added
[23:25] <ActionParsnip> Danielle: you can copy and paste to the terminal.
[23:26] <epaphus> Vonnick, i just downloaded it from http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/  and that copy doesnt say anything about Shredder 3...
[23:26] <mMezquitale> mr_engineer, like trism said, partitions are counted from 1, just keep that in mind if you want to add a manual entry in 40_custom, if grub is not picking it up with grub-probe and grub-update then creating a manual entry in 40_custom usually does the trick
[23:26] <epaphus> in fact that page.. (which is suppose to be the official) doesnt say anything about the Shredder 3
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Danielle: copy this command:     sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:26] <Danielle> so it worked then it asked for a password and i typed in my administration password and it said command not found again
[23:26] <DasEi> SirCharles: you can, but need additional storage then, live usb would work, or you go :
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Danielle: then right click in terminal and click paste
[23:27] <DasEi> !remaster
[23:27] <SirCharles> DasEi: Thanks
[23:28] <mr_engineer> mMezquitale, nah it didn't work... update-grub did find my kernel though
[23:28] <ActionParsnip> Danielle: try this: sudo fuser -vki /var/lib/dpkg/lock;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[23:28] <mr_engineer> it didn't modify the menu
[23:28] <epaphus> Vonnick, the problem is that , that tar doesnt have any instructions to actually install it in the system.. i can only run the binary :(
[23:28] <mr_engineer> hm.. it updates the old, unused menu.lst now that i read terminal output carefully
[23:28] <Danielle> i think it would. should i be able to get my music thing now?
[23:28] <Cyclist2> vis, I have got to go now; I will be back tomorrow around this time [a little earlier is more likely]; thank you for you interest
[23:29] <ActionParsnip> mataks: you have a lot of surplus kernels taking up excess space, you will get about 120Mb per kernel in space. it will also tidy the grub menu
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Danielle: you need to get your packages straight first before you can do anything at all
[23:30] <Danielle> oh. ok
[23:30] <Danielle> i dont know how to do that either
[23:30] <ActionParsnip> Danielle: now that has ran, run: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade         do you get any errors
[23:31] <FloodBot2> !netsplit
[23:31] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[23:31] <studentz> Help Openchrome video drive
[23:32] <Elmaron> hi
[23:32] <Elmaron> my ubuntu server refuses to start
[23:32] <SHumphrey> hi I can't get tinyproxy to work over the intrawebz
[23:32] <dassouki> i've lost my file/edit menus on a lot of applications / 9.10/gnome
[23:32] <Elmaron> what's the best log file to check for details?
[23:32] <DasEi> Elmaron: /var/log/syslog
[23:32] <Danielle> am i supposed to type that into the terminal
[23:32] <SHumphrey> FireFox says tinyproxy is refusing connections
[23:32] <Tiders> Whats the danger temp for an i7 920?
[23:32] <mataks> ActionParsnip,  thanks, i tried to remove the old kernels in synaptic package manager. don't even know it's still in there.  :)
[23:32] <DasEi> Tiders: #hardware
[23:33] <syn-ack> wow
[23:33] <Tiders> DasEi, They are jerks there X_X
[23:33] <syn-ack> $250 for a 9.04 Server CD?
[23:33] <ActionParsnip> mataks: not used it, i always use apt-get
[23:33] <syn-ack> Tiders: Well, they're the ones who would know
[23:34] <ActionParsnip> syn-ack: can you link that please
[23:34] <syn-ack> ActionParsnip: nm, I see what they did... thats for a pack of 200
[23:34] <Danielle> that ran and it didnt have any errors that i know of
[23:35] <dassouki> i've lost my file/edit menus on a lot of applications but the apps them self work fine. I'm on 9.10/gnome
[23:35] <mr_engineer> DasEi, can you help me creating a 40_custom entry? The syntax seems to differ from that in menu.lst
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> syn-ack: makes sense, less than a dollar a disk is ok
[23:35] <syn-ack> yeah, the front page only said "$250"
[23:35] <julio> i'm looking someone that knows HAL
[23:35] <DasEi> mr_engineer: not to good at grub 2
[23:35] <julio> any?
[23:35] <ActionParsnip> !anyone | julio
[23:36] <tongaz> ubuntu-es
[23:36] <trism> mr_engineer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Grub2#User-defined Entries there is an example, menuentry "Ubuntu*" { } similar syntax to menu.lst
[23:36] <mr_engineer> trism, thanks
[23:37] <trism> mr_engineer: just copy the menuentry {} part, the cat and echo aren't needed in 40_custom
[23:37] <Elmaron> http://pastebin.com/d408b0bbc :/
[23:37] <bgjsl> THE BEST OF THE BEST
[23:37] <julio> how can i use multiple keyb layouts? one for the notebooks kb and one usb
[23:37] <bgjsl> UBUNTU 9.04 jaunty
[23:37] <SHumphrey> Can someone help me with tinyproxy?
[23:38] <epaphus> epinky, Vonnick, bastid_raZor ...   Shredder is the alpha release of Thuinderbird .. it isnt a release candidate of thunderbird either.   If i install it on windows from th site it doesnt say anything about shredder. It appears that this install is some kind of mistake i didnt ask for an alpha release but just the thunderbird 3 beta release which is more stable. In any case...
[23:38] <ActionParsnip> juilo: you'll need to use xorg.conf for that dude
[23:38] <LjL> !caps | bgjsl
[23:39] <epaphus> iam trying to get the beta thunderbird 3 directly:...  The problem is iam trying to install it on linux. i go to http://www.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/thunderbird/ i download the tar gz , inside it the readme says just that for more information on installing it go to http://getthunderbird.com/releases/ . but that site says nothing about how to install on linux
[23:39] <Elmaron> someone having an idea what that log wants to tell me? http://pastebin.com/d408b0bbc
[23:39] <epaphus> (linux == karmic 9.10)
[23:39] <sproaty> how can I stop newly loaded programs stealing focus? If i load my application from eclipse then switch to firefox, my app steals focus when it is loaded
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> epaphus: linux == the kernel
[23:39] <syn-ack> epaphus: linux !=Karmic
[23:39] <syn-ack> ActionParsnip: Exactly
[23:39] <epaphus> yeah, sorry ActionParsnip
[23:40] <Elmaron> "no more processes left in this runlevel" <= what does that mean?
[23:40] <Peter-netbook> Back at the drawing board with this UNR issue.  I thought it was perhaps the creation of the USB, so I created a live DSL on the same USBKey and that booted fine, in the meantime i redl'd UNR from the ubuntu.com and then remade the key for UNR, still loads through to spinning dial and then hangs up indefinately.
[23:40] <pwnedulongtime> anyone tried google chrome beta yet?
[23:40] <pwnedulongtime> so fast
[23:40] <bgjsl> yes
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> pwnedulongtime: i use chromium instead, opensource ftw :)
[23:40] <DopeGhoti> pwnedulongtime: the OS, or the browser?
[23:41] <bgjsl> chrome is running vey good  on ubuntu
[23:41] <Elmaron> please, any syslog wizards here? :|
[23:41] <pwnedulongtime> browser
[23:41] <beejeebus> pwnedulongtime: what ActionParsnip said
[23:41] <Elmaron> I need to get this machine booted again ASAP
[23:41] <pwnedulongtime> ActionParsnip: you have to compile yourself?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> pwnedulongtime: i use the daily build repo
[23:41] <pwnedulongtime> ActionParsnip: daily builds are mostly stable?
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> pwnedulongtime: seems fine here
[23:42] <syn-ack> hrm
[23:42] <syn-ack> I wish I could find a lucid kernel in the backports
[23:43] <pwnedulongtime> https://launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa   ?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> pwnedulongtime: bingo
[23:43] <Afal> HOW DO INSTALL UBUNTU ON MY IPHONE?
[23:43] <LjL> !caps | Afal
[23:43] <LjL> Afal: i don't think that's possible.
[23:43] <Zeppelin> hey
[23:44] <DopeGhoti> Afal: you don't/can't.
[23:44] <syn-ack> Afal: impossible.
[23:44] <Zeppelin> I am new to ubnuntu
[23:44] <Zeppelin> If I sudo apt-get'd install'd something
[23:44] <Zeppelin> how do i uninstall it
[23:44] <trism> syn-ack: if you really wanted, you could probably install the linux-image package from lucid on karmic. I'm using the karmic kernel on jaunty without issues (better driver support, but I don't really want to upgrade this old laptop)
[23:44] <Afal> then how come I saw people do it on tv?
[23:44] <LjL> Zeppelin: sudo apt-get remove something
[23:44] <DopeGhoti> Zeppelin: sudo apt-get --purge remove «something»
[23:44] <LjL> Afal: you must be mistaken.
[23:44] <trism> syn-ack: it is pretty self-contained
[23:44] <Zeppelin> sudo-apt-get --purpe remove amarok
[23:44] <Zeppelin> ?^
[23:44] <williamy> Alguem poderia me ajudar?
[23:44] <LjL> !br | williamy
[23:44] <DopeGhoti> Zeppelin: no - after sudo
[23:45] <Afal> where can I dowload ubuntu on Itunes?
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> Zeppelin: then run: sudo apt-get --purge autoremove    after to remove the dependancies
[23:45] <DopeGhoti> Afal: you cannot.
[23:45] <epinky> Afal: some TV programs are science fictional
[23:45] <LjL> !ubuntu | afal
[23:45] <syn-ack> trism: I generally grab the aa mainline git tree from the kernel.ubuntu page and compile from there
[23:45] <Zeppelin> also yea
[23:45] <syn-ack> !troll | Afal
[23:45] <DasEi> Zeppelin:  sudo apt-get remove --purge
[23:45] <beejeebus> pwnedulongtime: http://costela.net/2009/12/notes-on-the-google-chrome-debian-package/
[23:45] <Zeppelin> I gotta say I love Ubuntu
[23:45] <Zeppelin> It's a great operating system
[23:45] <Zeppelin> :)
[23:45] <DopeGhoti> Zeppelin: glad you're liking it, and welcome1 :)
[23:45] <justine777w> DasEi: you there?
[23:45] <Elmaron> can anyone help me please? :(
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> Afal: same place yuo download any software on itunes
[23:46] <DasEi> justine777w: y
[23:46] <Afal> ActionParsnip: cool thanks
[23:46] <Peter-netbook> Snossages you still around?
[23:46] <justine777w> DasEi: so i booted the live disc and tried to get back on her but i couldnt
[23:46] <Afal> downloading now
[23:46] <DasEi> justine777w: why ? no network ?
[23:47] <justine777w> dasEi: i had network, but i only know how to get on here thru pidgin and it didnt have it and i tried to DL it and it would not let me
[23:49] <DasEi> justine777w: there is emphaty, facts are same irc.ubuntu.com 6667
[23:49] <noelito> Where can I get some good information on setting up autofs to connect to a win XP Pro share? All off my attempts have failed so far.
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> noelito: add it in /etc/fstab
[23:49] <DasEi> justine777w: is this the same computer or another machine you talk from now ?
[23:49] <justine777w> DasEi: same computer
[23:49] <ActionParsnip> Danielle: hows it going?
[23:49] <DasEi> justine777w: which os now ?
[23:50] <justine777w> DasEi: mine not livecd
[23:50] <epinky> noelito: tried /etc/auto.smb?
[23:50] <DasEi> justine777w: so you are in your running ubuntu ??
[23:50] <dassouki> I was wondering if anyone has faced this problem before. I've lost my menus (File/view/Edit ..) on some Nautilus apps, skype, eclipse, tux guitar..) the apps work fine but the menus are missing. On the other hand other apps have the menus working fine
[23:50] <Afal> ok running ubuntu on my iphone now
[23:50] <justine777w> DasEi: yes i am. I am trying to fix my computer problems
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> Afal: wtg :D
[23:51] <Afal> thanks for your help ActionParsnip
[23:51] <Elmaron> darn
[23:51] <noelito> epinky: I tryed auto.master. Is auto.smb the same thing?
[23:51] <Elmaron> why is ntpd [defunct]?
[23:51] <DasEi> justine777w: so I missunderstood, I thought next to updating boot was broken too, fine then, open a trml ..
[23:51] <Elmaron> it seems that thing caused my server to shutdown and prevented it from rebooting
[23:51] <justine777w> DasEi: open
[23:51] <Elmaron> any bad updates to ntpd in the past?
[23:52] <DasEi> justine777w: df -h             what about space ?
[23:52] <epinky> noelito: uncomment /etc/auto.smb in /etc/fstab
[23:52] <grandrew> hi all! how can I find what packages are libGLU and libGLCore in? I have a mess with open/proprietary drivers :-(
[23:52] <epinky> noelito: uncomment /etc/auto.smb in /etc/auto.master , sorry
[23:52] <chasedawg1> how do i get gdm setup?
[23:52] <Goliath> Hi
[23:52] <devanir> devanir
[23:52] <bgjsl> -H cprehensive for onesel it means
[23:52] <noelito> ActionParsnip: I need it to connect on access as my win xp box may be rebooted and the mount would I think break.
[23:52] <DasEi> grandrew: apt-cache show
[23:52] <ActionParsnip> chasedawg1: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[23:53] <giles> heya all
[23:53] <justine777w> DasEi: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/343095/
[23:53] <Goliath> i got the new filesystem package and i dont know which changes need to be applied from fstab and fstab.new
[23:53] <ActionParsnip> noelito: then run: sudo mount -a     if the access failed, then it will attempt to reconnect
[23:53] <giles> I was trying to make some changes to my X configuration
[23:53] <giles> but there isn't a /etc/X11/xorg.conf file on my system
[23:54] <giles> has is been moved around?
[23:54] <giles> there is a failsafe file
[23:54] <noelito> ActionParsnip: Thanks, for you help.
[23:54] <grandrew> DasEi: no package named libGL
[23:54] <DasEi> justine777w: your problem is you're just runing 3.7G for root, thats far too small
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> giles: karmic doesnt ship with one, if you make one it will be used
[23:54] <mr_engineer> can somebody check my 40_custom grub2 entry? http://paste.ubuntu.com/343098/
[23:54] <giles> ah i thought it might be that
[23:54] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: my root would fit on that, i only have a seperate home
[23:55] <chasedawg1> is there a way to change the login screen in 9.10?
[23:55] <justine777w> DasEi: yes i know but I can not get into synaptic to get gparted so i can make my partition bigger. Thats why i was told to boot from liveCd and then run fsck and then I should be okay, but that did not work
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> chasedawg1: its not coded in by default, epidermis may help though
[23:55] <giles> so is there a way I can generate one?
[23:55] <DasEi> ActionParsnip: sure, I even a 1g usb...
[23:55] <noelito> epinky: One more thing. Do Is still need to add a mount "line" in my auto.master? I have "/mnt/htpc	/etc/auto.htpc.mnt" at the moment.
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> giles: i can give you mine stripped out if you like
[23:55] <joshuajtl> can anyone tell me how to find out which touchpad i have? alps or synaptics?
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> DasEi: mines a full install very stripped out
[23:56] <mr_engineer> ill be back
[23:56] <DasEi> justine777w: so let's drop whats possible then
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> joshuajtl: sudo lshw | less    and read
[23:56] <trism> mr_engineer: delete the lines with cat and echo and the EOF at the end, they aren't needed
[23:56] <DasEi> !trash | justine777w
[23:56] <justine777w> DasEi: in terminal?
[23:56] <trism> mr_engineer: so delete line 6, 7 and 13
[23:56] <Afal> guys: what is your favourite feature of ubuntu?
[23:56] <joshuajtl> thanks ActionParsnip... and read though? what else would I do :)
[23:56] <Afal> my favourite is purble palace
[23:56] <epinky> noelito: no, don't do that, you only define automount maps in /etc/auto.master
[23:57] <klappi> Afal: the shutdown button
[23:57] <giles> ActionParsnip: there's supposed to be a dpkg command to generate one
[23:57] <Afal> klappi: yeah I like that one too
[23:57] <DasEi> justine777w: sudo rm  r ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[23:57] <giles> doesn't seem to do anything though
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> giles: http://pastebin.com/m61967570
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> giles: its not used so I dont think so, it will make something like that
[23:58] <ae86-drifter> every time the screensaver kicks in my laptop freezes
[23:58] <justine777w> DasEi: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/343101/
[23:58] <ae86-drifter> every time the screensaver kicks in my laptop freezes, even when i go in there to change it to turn it off, it freezes from the preview window, is there a config file for the screen saver????
[23:58] <berrybarry> hey could someone reccomend a webbased vnc
[23:58] <giles> shows me how little I still know about desktop linux
[23:58] <knopix> alguem portugues
[23:58] <DasEi> justine777w: sudo rm -r ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[23:58] <LjL> !pt | knopix
[23:58] <knopix> para me ajudar
[23:58] <giles> really rusty
[23:59] <noelito> epinky: I am sorry but I don't understand where I specify the specific information of where to mount which share. I thought it was in the auto.master?
[23:59] <giles> I actually had a bizarre problem installing ubuntu via a cd
[23:59] <syrius> what is wrong with my ubuntus when I try to compress it just makes an archive of the exact same size what gives?
[23:59] <justine777w> DasEi: no such file
[23:59] <methods> how do i disable pulse audio ?
[23:59] <giles> kept asking for the cd again when it got to the configuring grub stage
[23:59] <syrius> I compressed a 90 mb file and I got the same file size
[23:59] <giles> in the end I used a minicd image
[23:59] <DasEi> justine777w: sudo apt-get remove --purge gnome-games*