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maxbextended downtime :-(00:06
wgrantlpnet is OOPSing constantly, too. But edge is OK.00:06
maxbThe read only mode has an interesting side effect. "Max Bowsher does not use Launchpad", apparently00:12
wgrantYeah, that happened last time too.00:13
wgrantBut not the time before.00:13
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Cleohmm, the new Launchpad bug viewing page renders funny for me, the right sidebar is forced all the way to the bottom, below comments, although still on the right00:34
CarlFKCleo: I saw that too, yesterday00:36
CleoI see it has been reported as bug #49720900:36
ubottuLaunchpad bug 497209 in launchpad "[EDGE] Launchpad pushes right pane (actions, subscribers) to the bottom of the page" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49720900:36
pooliedid launchpad go down again?00:38
* poolie looks00:38
poolieoh, r/o rollouts00:38
sproatyis translations email down? been waiting 20 mins00:42
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vadi2Why do I have to re-upload my sources for each Ubuntu release I want to build in my PPA?00:52
xnoxBecause all binaries are stored in one APT pool (one directory) and they would have the same name then and hence next build would override the results of the previous one00:59
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persiaReading backscroll, I notice that bug 497209 is a duplicate of 493518.  Unfortunately, I don't seem to be able to mark it as such.  Anyone with permission want to fix that?01:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 497209 in launchpad "[EDGE] Launchpad pushes right pane (actions, subscribers) to the bottom of the page" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49720901:03
spmpersia: done01:04
maxbWhat permissions would that require?01:04
spmno idea; but I have rubber ducky :-)01:05
spmprobably part of the bug team contacts whatsit01:05
maxbyeah, I'm just wondering whether this would be a bug - I thought anyone could dup/undup bugs that they can see01:06
wgrantAnyone can...01:06
spmoh I see. unknown to me unf. it's actually a pain in that respect - as there are no barriers for most things I do; I'm not aware of when there are for others. :-/01:06
wgrantpersia: Sure you're logged in?01:07
xnoxSo did bzr-svn for branch imports landed with this new release?01:07
spmmwhudson: ^^01:07
persiawgrant: Ah, that was it.  Thanks for finding my issue before I'd even investigated it :)01:08
maxb"A username may not be specified in the URI." Boo01:12
maxbI was hoping the bzr-svn importer would let me import branches that require guest:guest@01:12
wgrantHave you considered asking whoever runs that repository to remove that pointless requirement/01:13
maxbtigris.org. Lame project hosting site01:15
wgrantBut... don't they host svn itself?01:16
wgrantOr am I misremembering from my svn days...01:16
xnoxWill existing imports use bzr-svn from now on?01:22
xnoxOr do I need to request a new one?01:23
wgrantxnox: The latter. bzr-svn branches are incompatible with those produced by cscvs (the old method)/01:25
xnoxOk thanks =) I'll request new ones then. Horay!01:26
xnoxThank you to everyone who works on launchpad yet another release with hot stuff01:26
xnoxcan't wait for the blog entry about bzr-svn imports01:26
thumperxnox: you'll have to make sure that the urls of the old ones are changed01:31
xnoxthumper: what do you mean?01:32
thumperxnox: as we check that the same url isn't imported multiple times01:32
thumperxnox: two import svn branches can't point to the same place01:32
mwhudsonxnox: yes01:32
xnoxoh that's fine =) i did realise that01:32
xnoxthe new import is created under my namespace01:33
xnoxthat's quite cool01:33
xnoxinstead of ~vcs-imports01:33
xnoxAnywho submitted mine =) it's xiphos and libsword01:35
xnoxlp:~dmitrij.ledkov/xiphos/trunk and lp;~dmitrij.ledkov/libsword/trunk01:35
xnoxHopefully they will be up and running soon ;-)01:35
* xnox has some chocolates for bribes01:35
dhillon-v10hi all, how's everyone doing, I am one of the answer contacts for Ubuntu so I answer questions everyday, but my karma isn't updating why is that so, it also didn't record the karma from the last 3 days (not that I do it for karma, but its nice to have it)01:37
mwhudsonwho wants to write me an xchat plugin that makes lp: urls clickable?01:40
* persia 01:40
thumpermwhudson: paste it into a code review comment, bug comment or answer comment :)01:40
mwhudsonthumper: possibly a little abusive :)01:40
thumpermwhudson: perhaps we should have auto approval of bzr-svn imports?01:40
xnoxmwhudson: THANK YOU =)01:40
mwhudsonxnox: :)01:40
mwhudsonthumper: maybe yeah01:41
xnoxwhere shall I send chocolates to?01:41
thumperxnox: where are they coming from?01:41
xnoxUK =)01:41
xnoxto canonical HQ? does mwhudson work there?01:42
mwhudsonnah, i'm in nz (as is thumper)01:42
xnoxRight =) do you go to ubuntu UDS?01:42
xnoxI'll send them there then ;-)01:42
xnoxOr I'll send them to NZ if you give me address01:42
xnoxfor both of you to share ;-)01:42
onoxhow do I sign bzr revisions with a particular key?01:49
mwhudsononox: spiv tried to answer you in #bzr01:49
mwhudsononox: i think i once created a shell wrapper that did gpg -u $UID $@ and pointed gpg_signging_command at that01:50
maxbWhy do code imports require approval, anyway? Would we really have a problem if they were all allowed to try?01:55
mwhudsonmaxb: well, apparently back in the mists of time, someone typed "svn.debian.org" into the form01:55
mwhudsonmaxb: and there was much unhappiness01:56
maxbAh01:56
mwhudsonmaxb: also, people get it wrong a lot of the time, possibly because of the wording on the form01:56
mwhudsonwhich i guess we should change, now we have bzr-svn01:56
thumperthere was also the non-mergability of two cscvs imports of the same location01:58
wgrantAre you going to relax the trunk restriction now?02:01
thumperwgrant: for svn, yes02:01
wgrantthumper: And just hope that CVS quietly dies eventually?02:02
onoxmwhudson: thx, a shell wrapper did the trick02:04
mwhudsonwgrant: got a better idea?02:04
wgrantmwhudson: nope.02:05
mwhudsongood02:09
mwhudsonthis one seems to be working ok...02:09
emezetahi chan02:14
emezetaI'd like to do some changes on name and uri of a project02:15
emezetaIs there anybody who can help me on this?02:16
emezetais it possible?02:16
dhillon-v10thumper, hi :D I have a lot of deactivated pgp keys, I didn't know we could export keys out so I just made a new one everytime, so now I have 4 keys in the keyserver, is it possible to remove them02:19
thumperdhillon-v10: I have no idea02:20
wgrantdhillon-v10: You can't remove them.02:21
thumperemezeta: yes, ask a question on the launchpad project02:21
dhillon-v10wgrant, so what happens now02:21
wgrantdhillon-v10: Use your revocation certificates to revoke the keys, if you have not already.02:22
wgrantThat is all you can really do.02:22
wgrantYou cannot remove them.02:22
dhillon-v10wgrant, I didn't make any revocation certificates sorry :) I guess I'll just live with it them02:23
dhillon-v10* then02:23
emezetathumper: tks02:24
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xnoxwgrant: does soyuz now accept DebSrc3.0?03:01
wgrantxnox: The code does, the buildds do, but some machines still haven't been upgraded, so it's not enabled yet.03:01
xnox=) ok cool03:02
wgrantI don't know when those upgrades will happen.03:02
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persiaI've just gotten my first LP bzr merge proposal.  Can I automate the merge with LP, or do I need to grab branches and merge manually and push?03:44
spivpersia: the latter03:45
persiaWill that automatically update anything in LP, or do I need to update the UI there (or do email) as well?03:45
jmlpersia, once you've pushed, lp will take care of it.03:46
spivLaunchpad will notice when the branch has been merged and update the merge proposal accordingly.03:46
persiaNifty.  Thanks for the explanations.03:46
spiv(And also hide the branch from default views as it will no longer have any changes outstanding)03:46
spiv(Well, assuming there are no changes outstanding vs. the development focus, but that's the usual scenario)03:47
persiaI'm not sure there is a "development focus" branch.03:48
persiaDo you know if there are any plans to make it so people *don't* have to pull a branch to merge?03:49
mwhudsonpersia: there have been plans for that since well before i started at canonical :-)03:50
mwhudsonpersia: too much to do....03:50
mwhudsonpersia: i take it you mean a "merge it!" button that you can press in the ui?03:50
persiamwhudson: That there are plans is enough.  That they aren't implemented yet is a minor detail.03:50
mwhudson(if you have edit permisssions on the target branch etc)03:50
persiaSomething like that.03:50
mwhudsonyeah03:50
mwhudson"planned, not implemented"03:50
mwhudsonwell, about 15% implemented03:51
persiaheh :)03:51
persiaSo, at that rate, another 17 years or so?03:51
mwhudsonpersia: sounds about right03:53
persiaLikely not such a huge issue though: I imagine that most bzr merge approvers are likely to have local branches of code.03:54
spivRight.03:55
persiaAnd, except in corner coses, would want to download *something* to test anyway.03:55
spivRight.03:56
mwhudsoni can see how udd would have more of a use case for this03:56
spivFor bzr, we actually delegate the merging and running of tests to PQM.03:56
persiaPerhaps, although for the medium terms, we can cheat with dget and dput03:56
persiaAnd, again, except in corner cases, we'd want something local to test anyway.03:56
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bjsnideri think i've got an unusual situation here04:10
bjsnideri think one of these ppa builds is just going around in circles endlessly04:11
bjsnidernever seen this before, but it's been building for 3 hours04:11
wgrantWhich?04:11
wgrantMaybe it's just bohrium again.04:11
bjsniderit's on shipova04:12
bjsniderhttps://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/testing-ppa/+build/140137404:12
bjsniderit was building when the launchpad upgrade was applied04:13
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Sam-I-Ambjsnider: heh, i had one hose up a few nights ago04:39
Sam-I-Amjust kinda sat there for a few hours04:39
bjsniderdid it fix itself?04:43
bjsniderdid it build eventually?04:43
Sam-I-Amit finally finished04:45
Sam-I-Amtook a good long time tho04:45
Sam-I-Amthe machine was bohrium... as noted above... i had talked with wgrant about my issue.04:45
Sam-I-Ami didnt have to do anything tho...04:46
wgrantSam-I-Am: "finally finished" might just mean that a sysadmin noticed and reset the builder.04:53
Sam-I-Amwgrant: also possible... although everything built fine, no failures.04:54
wgrantSam-I-Am: When a builder disappears, the build is transparently retried without failure notification.04:54
Sam-I-Amoh, thats nice.04:54
Sam-I-Amcurrently rolling openldap 2.4.21 release candidate locally... testing for the openldap folks on hardy and karmic.04:57
Sam-I-Amone of these days i need to figure out how to get involved in the official backports system04:57
slangasekwgrant: ping, re: v3 source support05:40
slangasekwgrant: we seem to still not have a version of dpkg on cocoplum that works for this; is that a known outstanding item?05:41
AnAntHello,  a project already has a bzr branch, but I want to either create a new branch (for that project) which imports from git, or just sync from git in the current bzr branch, how can I do so ?05:49
wgrantslangasek: Before the new source formats can be enabled, dpkg needs to be upgraded on cocoplum, germanium, iron, and whichever machine generates package diffs. This is the last blocker. I do not know which of those have been upgraded, nor do I know when they will be upgraded, nor do I have access to RT to find out.05:54
wgrantslangasek: Once those are upgraded, a LOSA justs needs to fire off the SQL or Python to enable the new formats in Lucid, and then everything will work.05:56
slangasekwgrant: do you have an RT# that I can track myself? :)05:56
wgrantslangasek: I don't.05:56
wgrantMaybe spm does?05:57
slangasekwgrant: found it at the top of the queue, heh05:57
spmwho sent it in?05:57
wgrantslangasek: Ah, handy.05:57
slangasekspm: bigjools; ticket #3687305:58
spmhaha. sent in ~ 5 hours ago. nice. :-)06:00
wgrantOh :(06:00
spmin any event; it's not something I can do; I'll have to leave that for when the GSAs are around.06:01
AnAntdoes the launchpad translations export to branch feature work ?06:03
wgrantAnAnt: Yes.06:03
AnAntwgrant: I select a branch to export to, yet I get an error every time I do this06:04
wgrantAnAnt: "an error"?06:04
wgrantYou need to select a branch that *you*, not a team, own.06:04
AnAntit says: invalid value06:04
AnAntah, ok06:04
AnAntwhy is that ?06:05
wgrantI don't know.06:05
jmlthat's lame.06:07
jmlI bet it's because it should be checking that you have launchpad.Edit permissions, and instead it's checking for equality, or something like that.06:08
AnAntsorry, I asked a question earlier and left for a couple of mins (I thought that I would find the answer on irclogs, but found that it isn't updated yet)a project already has a bzr branch, but I want to either create a new branch (for that project) which imports from git, or just sync from06:14
AnAntgit in the current bzr branch, how can I do so ?06:14
spivAnAnt: IIRC you can just register a new import06:25
spivAnAnt: it doesn't matter if the project already exists and has branches.06:25
AnAntspiv: I don't understand06:31
AnAntspiv: there is another project where I registered a new import06:31
spivAnAnt: ok?  I don't understand the problem then?06:33
spivAnAnt: is it that the import is registered against the wrong project?06:33
AnAntspiv: well, the project is called monajat, I can't register new imports there06:34
AnAntspiv: while for another project that I added 2 days ago, I was able to register an import from Git06:34
spivOh, you can't simply put 'monajat' into the form at https://code.launchpad.net/+code-imports/+new ?06:35
AnAntI'll try that06:35
AnAntspiv: that worked, thanks06:37
spivCool.  I honestly have no idea what other way there is that you were trying, though!06:39
AnAntspiv: I went to code.launchpad.net/monajat, and didn't find an import button, that was my problem06:42
spivAh, you should have tried just code.launchpad.net :)06:43
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toobazHello. I have a package for "unstable" that I correctly uploaded to my ppa for Karmic thanks to suggestion in https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/Uploading. However, it doesn't work for Lucid or Jaunty.08:17
toobazI get "The source gpapers - 0+svn20090122-3 is already accepted in ubuntu/karmic"08:17
toobazshould the PPA somehow be enabled for other releases?08:18
wgrantYou cannot upload the same version number more than once in a single PPA, regardless of the release.08:18
wgrantYou should append something like ~jaunty1 to the version.08:19
persiaThat works for jaunty, but +lucid1 is probably required for lucid08:20
persia(to preserve jaunty >> karmic >> lucid)08:20
toobazok, thanks08:28
mac_vhi... if i change my openID name , will i still have access to my branches?08:53
mac_vand other projects I'm working in?08:53
wgrantYes, but your branches will be renamed.08:54
wgrantAnd sites other than Launchpad may no longer recognize you.08:54
mac_vwgrant: other sites are not a problem , my concern is more about the teams/projects i'm involved in.. so it wont affect those permissions?08:55
wgrantmac_v: Correct.08:56
mac_vthanks :)08:56
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EsatYuce i am member of one Launchpad's teams, i want to learn when the package released?11:54
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persiaDoes anyone happen to know how Soyuz handles two source packages in Ubuntu that build a binary package with the same name?13:26
noodles775Hi persia - I'm not sure, my guess would be a conflict, but I'll have a look and see.13:29
persianoodles775: Seems both binaries end up on archive.ubuntu.com13:29
noodles775persia: different versions then? What's an example?13:30
bigjoolsI think this usually gets solved with an transitional meta-package13:31
persiaSources: squashfs, squashfs-tools; Binary: squashfs-tools13:31
persiabigjools: Well, that won't help Soyuz: that's just an end-user system issue.13:32
bigjoolsexactly13:32
bigjoolsI don't know how this has been handled before13:32
bigjoolssomeone in distro may know13:32
persiaLike me :)13:32
bigjoolswell, foundations :)13:33
persiaI know how to handle it so the right thing happens for end-users.13:33
persiaWhat I don't know is what Soyuz does with it.13:33
bigjoolssee if Colin knows, would be my best suggestion13:33
persiaThey manage those bits of Soyuz?13:33
bigjoolsthe archive admins et al, yes13:34
persiaAh, that makes sense.  Thanks.13:34
bigjoolsI think stuff gets manually superseded, but check.13:34
persiaYeah, it looks like it ends up being manual.13:35
persiaAnd that the Package file generation just selects an arbitrary binary package based on version number comparison.13:36
persiaAnyway, thanks.  I'll go chase an archive-admin :)13:37
maxbpersia: A binary package can only ever increase in version, so it depends on which way around the versions of the sources are13:39
maxbIf a higher versioned source builds a binary formerly built by a different source, it takes it over13:39
persiamaxb: Well, kinda.  Depends on context.13:39
maxbIf a lower versioned source tries the same, that build will result in a "Failed to upload" error13:40
* persia looks harder13:40
persiamaxb: Except https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/squashfs/1:4.0-3ubuntu1/+build/1391240 doesn't appear to have that error.13:40
maxbWhat is the other source package involved?13:41
persiasquashfs-tools13:41
maxbpersia: That is because of the order in which they built13:43
maxbsquashfs 1:4.0-3ubuntu1 built first, and produced binary squashfs-tools 1:4.0-3ubuntu113:43
maxbthen, squashfs-tools 1:4.0-6 built, and produced binary squashfs-tools 1:4.0-613:44
maxbthe version number was an increase, so the upload was allowed13:44
persiaAha!, and I was misled by the dates of source modification vs. dates of build.13:45
persiaThanks for explaining the details.13:45
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ulysses__what has happened with launchpad? I can't open any page14:44
persiaulysses__: Works fine here.14:45
persia(well, rather, no more than normally slow and with known bugs)14:45
ulysses__hm, then Firefox stucked14:45
ulysses__okay, it was pebkac:P14:46
ulysses__bye14:47
persiaulysses__: That's the best kind of bug: easy to solve and you don't even need to prepare a patch :)14:47
KLondenbergHi all ..14:50
KLondenbergShort question: I'm currently trying to get my private copy auf Launchpad working, including Codehosting and so on. Everything except codehosting seems to work fine. But when I try to push to alp://dev/ repository, the repository gets created in the root folder (/) of the server launchpad is running on. It fails, even, if this is not done with root rights (for obvious reasons). Any clue...14:50
KLondenberg...what might be wrong, or where I should start looking into ?14:51
KLondenbergApart from that, pushes to that repository don't get picked up by the webapp, even if I "make sync_branches"14:51
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aleksander_mhi all... working with my projects in lauchpad, I usually do a bzr branch of the published branch as a local mirror, and then merge different local branches into that mirror, and then make a bzr push back to launchpad15:29
aleksander_mbut one of my friends is also doing the same in the same project, and we end up with the revisions in launchpad wrong15:30
aleksander_mI mean, I pushed yesterday new revisions 15 and 16, and today he did a pull and push and we ended up with my revisions disappeared and new revisions 15 and 16 made by him15:31
aleksander_mwhat are we doing wrong?15:31
tsimpsonprobably better to ask in #bzr15:31
persiaaleksander_m: You're forgetting to pull again before pushing, or you're using push --overwrite.  You ought to get an error.15:32
AnAntHello, launchpad translations help says that I can export translations to a bzr branch owned by a team of which I am a member, yet when I tried this, it didn't work !15:57
AnAntor actually I got an "Invalid value| error when setting the team branch as the export branch15:59
dpmAnAnt, looking at https://help.launchpad.net/Translations/YourProject/Exports, it states that "At the moment, team-owned branches don't work as expected. To work around this, make yourself the owner of the branch, set it as the translations branch, and then make the team the owner of the branch again."15:59
AnAntdpm: ah, I didn't see that, thanks15:59
AnAntdpm: but won't the  URL of the branch change when I change the owner ?15:59
dpmAnAnt, you're welcome :). So you'll need to do this one-time workaround due to the current bug15:59
AnAntdpm: the branch is now: lp:~<username>/....16:00
dpmAnAnt, perhaps danilos or henninge can better help on this (I'm not a LP dev :) )16:01
dpmAnAnt, but I would guess that when you make the team the owner of the branch again as suggested, the URL would go back to the original16:02
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henningeAnAnt: and the link is not via the branch url but the internal database id of the branch.16:05
AnAnthmm, lemme see that16:06
AnAnthenninge: yeah, that's right, thanks !16:07
AnAntcan I export translations to a newly created branch (that haven't been pushed to yet) ?16:23
AnAnts/can I/can Rosetta/16:23
henningeAnAnt: I think so. AFAIK Rosetta does the same thing you would do when pushing.16:25
AnAntok16:25
micahgcan LP link to flyspray yet?16:33
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rdbare there any issues with soyuz right now?17:23
rdbI dputted some source archives an hour or so ago, still didn't get an email17:23
al-maisanrdb: where did you upload to?17:24
bigjoolsdid you sign them with a key in your LP account?17:24
rdbal-maisan, to my PPA17:24
rdblet me check if the key is in the LP account17:24
rdbOops, it wasn't. you were right17:25
rdbso will I need to reupload my stufF?17:25
al-maisanrdb: is the key in place now?17:25
al-maisanrdb: what is your ppa?17:26
rdbal-maisan, not yet, I I found out that I didnt even send it to the keyserver yet. gotta wait until its pushed17:26
al-maisanah, I see.17:27
rdbal-maisan, ok, validated. PPA is https://launchpad.net/~panda3d/+archive/ppa17:29
rdbdo I need to reupload, or wait?17:30
al-maisanrdb: reupload please17:30
rdbok17:30
rdbal-maisan, yay, the upload appeared to have worked. Thanks for your help!17:36
al-maisanrdb: great!17:36
al-maisanrdb: thank bigjools :)17:37
rdbthanks bigjools :-)17:37
bigjoolswelcome :)17:37
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sproatyhttps://launchpad.net/whyteboard/+download  - is this the right way to manage releases? every release has 5 files, so if I do a 0.39.1, 0.39.2, 0.39.3, 0.39.4 that's 20 files into one release if I just stick them under 0.3918:18
sproatyI want to keep up old ones just for a download total tally18:18
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jkakarIt would be cool if the 'Tags' portlet on bugs pages was a list of tags insteads of a cloud.  The cloud is hard to navigate/understand.19:33
deryckjkakar, I'm largely in agreement at this point.  It should be switched back to the way it was before, I think.19:36
deryckI still feel our handling of tags is not quite what it could be with either approach, though.19:36
persiaI'm not sure "back to the way it was before" would be entirely ideal.19:38
persiaAutomated sorting would be nice, for example.19:38
jkakarderyck: I'm attempting to use tags to track work items.  A work item may involve many bugs (and by association branches).19:42
jkakarderyck: Having an alphabetized list of tags would basically give me a list of work items in Launchpad.19:42
deryckjkakar, ah, interesting that you would like it alphabetized.  It used to be descending order by number of bugs tagged.19:43
jkakarderyck: I would prefer alphabetization because then the order will always be predictable, making it faster/easier to use.19:49
bjsnidershipova is doing that thing where it endlessly builds a package again19:53
bjsniderjust like last night19:53
maxbIs bazaar.lp.net totally dead?19:54
maxbintellectronica: Can you locate us a LOSA? Codehosting go boom!19:55
Chexmaxb: hi, we are aware of the codehost problem and are working on it now19:56
maxbThanks19:56
mbarnettmaxb: yeah, we are loooking into it.  thanks19:56
mbarnettwhat chex said!19:57
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ftabuild times are broken in lp. the page says "Finished 4 minutes ago (took 3 hours, 38 minutes, 31.8 seconds)", the log says "Build needed 03:04:37"20:02
dhillon-v10mrevell, hi :D how are you, I have been writing a lot of docs. so I wanted to join launchpad-docs and write some more docs for launchpad, what the criteria for joining20:02
ftaanother build (arm): "took 9 hours, 43 minutes, 23.6 seconds" vs "Build needed 21:39:16"20:03
ftaand indeed, it tools ~22h20:03
ftatook20:03
bjsniderwhy are builds taking so long though?20:04
bjsniderwhat could possibly take that long to build?20:04
bjsniderfta, were those long builds i386?20:05
fta22h is armel, not i38620:06
AdysHello - I'm trying to push one of my repos to a branch I just created (bzr push lp:~adys/+junk/main), but it's just hanging without any feedback whatsoever. Am I doing something wrong?20:07
bjsnidertopic says bazaar is down20:07
AdysOh20:08
ftabjsnider, the thing that takes 3h on amd64 is chromium, which i build in less than 1h locally, exact same package, but more memory / cores20:08
Adyswas surprised by the lack of timeout message20:08
bjsniderthat could potentially cause a problem i think20:08
bjsniderfta, i've been waiting hours for mplayer to build on i386 here. the other two arches built in i dunno 15 minutes or something20:08
bjsniderhappened last night too20:09
bjsnidermplayer shouldn't take 5 hours to build on i38620:10
ftai'm not talking about the time spent in queue waiting for a slot, but actual build time20:10
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bjsniderfta, me too. it's actually been building for 5 hours and counting20:12
ftaiirc, mplayer is quite fast to build, i've built it hundreds of times since 200120:12
wgrantfta: Do you have links to those builds?20:13
ftawgrant, https://edge.launchpad.net/~chromium-daily/+archive/ppa/+build/1402388 & https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-security/+archive/nss3.12.3/+build/137766320:14
wgrantfta: Note that anything that finished building during the LP upgrade or while buildd-manager was down will have a longer than expected time inside LP.20:14
wgrantBut shorter? That seems really odd.20:14
ftawgrant, it's not new, it's been wrong for a while20:14
wgrantOh. That's ages ago.20:14
wgrantAnything recent?20:14
wgrantPreferably less than 24 hours old.20:15
ftawgrant, the 1st one is from today20:15
fta4h ago20:15
james2432is  bazaar down?20:15
bjsnideryes20:15
ftawgrant, ^^, the 2nd is just a few days old20:16
ScottKjames2432: See /topic20:16
james2432mk that's what i though20:16
* james2432 facepalm should have checked topic20:16
bjsniderindeed you should20:16
wgrantfta: Ah, so it is.20:16
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ftawgrant, afaics, all build times are wrong, the armel ones are just worse than the other arches20:18
bigjoolsthere's a bug about it, it represents the lag between the build itself, and the scanner collecting it20:18
bigjoolsand we've had a load of problems with the scanner lately20:19
wgrantbigjools: But 40 minutes?20:19
bigjoolsyes20:19
wgrantJust a couple of hours ago?20:19
bigjoolsyes20:20
wgrantAh.20:20
wgrantsproaty: 0.39.1, 0.39.2 etc. should be separate releases in the 0.39 series.20:20
bigjoolsscanner was down20:20
* bigjools needs beer20:20
* james2432 hand bigjools a beer20:22
cody-somervillebazaar.launchpad.net doesn't seem down to me :(20:22
cody-somerville*:)20:22
Adyscody-somerville: at least here pushing to it doesnt work20:22
james2432up 4 me20:22
james2432I just pushed20:22
Adysah20:22
Adysyeah its up now20:22
james2432yay20:23
A4Tech1hi all20:23
* bigjools thanks james243220:23
Adyswhich reminds me if theres a bazaar dev around, it would be nice to add a timeout20:23
A4Tech1http://paste.ubuntu.com/343669/20:24
A4Tech1Why am I not working push (bazaar)20:24
jpdsA4Tech1: See /topic.20:32
A4Tech1oh20:33
A4Tech1thx)20:33
jlduponthelp, please, I get the following error: " Error while executing push  RemoteRepository(bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jldupont/erljld/trunk/.bzr/) is not compatible with CHKInventoryRepository('file:///home/jldupont/workspace/erljld/.bzr/repository/') different rich-root support"20:40
jldupontwith a bzr push command20:40
maxbIt means your local repository is in a format which is incompatible with the one you are trying to push into20:42
maxbMost likely you have been bitten by the fact that bzr 2.x creates rich-root repositories by default20:42
maxbUnfortunately, revisions committed to such a repository cannot be pushed into a non-rich-root repository20:43
jldupont@maxb: what are my options here?20:44
maxbjldupont: Obtain a non-rich-root local copy of the remote, then port your changes across to that, potentially using bzr merge20:46
jldupont@maxb: how do I do that??20:46
maxbPresumably you ran 'bzr init-repo' at some point when starting work?20:47
wgrantOr think about upgrading the remote side, after considering all of the issues.20:47
jldupontremote side is Launchpad... I have no idea how to do this.20:47
lifelessmaxb: pushing preserves format20:47
AdysErgh20:47
jldupontI use the Bazaar plugin under Eclipse.20:47
Adyshow do I add someone on a launchpad branch? Allowing them to commit20:47
maxblifeless: I don't understand what you're saying?20:48
lifelessjldupont: run bzr upgrade bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~jldupont/erljld/trunk20:48
jldupont@lifeless: trying out...20:48
thumperAdys: you need to make the branch owned by a team whose members all have commit access20:48
lifelessmaxb: I'm probably incoherent; was a late night20:48
wgrantlifeless: That seems like it might be a bad idea.20:48
maxblifeless: Shouldn't he first check there's no branches stacked on it?20:48
wgrantlifeless: eg. it'll break stacking20:48
lifelesssee, I shouldn't be giving advice until awake.20:49
lifelessmore of an issue is that the remote branch might be stacked itself20:50
wgrantIt's trunk so that seems less likely.20:50
lifelesswgrant: trunk != series, but we'll find out :P20:51
Adysthumper: confusing - where do I create a team?20:51
wgrantlifeless: Is there not some big document in the bzr docs explaining the issue and how to resolve it?20:51
thumperAdys: I'm pretty sure there is a link off the homepage20:52
wgrantAdys: https://launchpad.net/people/+newteam20:52
wgrantBut yes, there is a link on the front page.20:52
maxbIs there full documentation for the merge@code.launchpad.net email anywhere? For example, can I send it a bundle, or must the code already be pushed?20:57
jpdsmaxb: The branch and MP are automatically created by the patch bundle.21:00
maxbWell.... I got an OOPS21:02
maxbSo apparently I did something it didn't like :-)21:02
maxbAlso, is it possible to use 'editor' as the MUA, but still fit the GPG signing in somehow?21:03
jpdsmaxb: https://dev.launchpad.net/Code/BzrSend21:08
persiamaxb: $(VISUAL) mail.txt && gpg -s mail.txt && /usr/lib/sendmail < mail.txt21:08
maxbHmm... that wiki page claims you can use 'editor' as a mail client, but how is the gpg signing going to happen then?21:14
EsatYucewho knows about GPG key?22:15
RAOFAlmost everyone here knows _something_ about GPG keys, I'd wager.  What particularly are you after?22:17
EsatYucei got one GPG key to use some commant in terminal, then one e-mail came me, i need to solve tihs e-mail than pasted it to Launchpad's fingerprint. How can i open this e-mail?22:20
RAOFEsatYuce: I'm not entirely sure what you're trying to do.  I am having trouble understanding you.  Are you trying to sign the Ubuntu code of conduct on launchpad?22:22
EsatYuceRaof: exactly, you are right22:23
RAOFEsatYuce: Sorry, I killed my computer trying 3D on the nouveau drivers.22:34
RAOFEsatYuce: If I remember correctly, what you get is a text file containing the code of conduct, correct?22:34
EsatYuceright22:35
EsatYucethere are many letters on e-mail22:35
EsatYucebut they are randomly22:35
pooliespm: any news or just "bazaar.launchpad.net is down due to hardware failure, we're working on it"22:36
spmpoolie: apparently it's OOM'ing. from what little I can see it's thrashing heavily (or rather feels like that)22:36
spmone of the GSAs is about to stab22:36
persiaEsatYuce: https://help.launchpad.net/ReadingOpenPgpMail22:38
EsatYucepersia, : i did it already,22:39
EsatYucebut i cant get e-mal from firefox to Evolition22:40
pooliespm: are we back upright?23:04
poolieif so can we update the status?23:04
spmpoolie: yes; ta; fixing23:04
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pooliethumper: hey, how about a chat?23:05
thumperpoolie: yeah, ok23:06
EsatYuceİ created one key, then pasted it to Launchpad's fingerprint, then clicked import key button, then one e-mail came to my box. it is randomly text, i need to describe it. How?23:07
wgrantEsatYuce: Use a proper email client, or run 'gpg' in a terminal, paste the encrypted content into that window, press Control+D, and enter your passphrase when prompted.23:08
EsatYucewgrant, : ok i m trying23:08
EsatYucewgrant: i tried it, but i cant23:14
wgrantEsatYuce: "cant"? Why not?23:15
EsatYucewgrant, : i typed what you said me to Terminal23:15
EsatYuceit said me "Go ahead and type your message", then i pasted the message, but it did nothing23:16
wgrantEsatYuce: Did you then press Ctrl+D?23:17
EsatYucewhen i press ctrl+d my terminal exit23:17
wgrantAlso, did you paste in the ----- BEGIN [...] lines?23:17
EsatYuceno23:17
wgrantYou need to.23:17
EsatYuceok23:17
EsatYucewrang: can yuo send me private message23:20
EsatYucei will send you the results23:20
EsatYucewgrant,23:21
wgrantEsatYuce: Done.23:24
gagitahy guys how can I upload my offline translation to LAUNCHPAD?23:25
EsatYucewgrant, : i sent you23:47
wgrantEsatYuce: Enter your passphrase.23:50
EsatYucein Terminal?23:51
EsatYucewgrant, : did you read my private message23:52
wgrantEsatYuce: I did. Once you paste the message, it should ask you for your passphrase. Enter it.23:56
EsatYucealready, but it said me You need a passphrase to unlock the secret key for23:57
EsatYucewgrant: Could you please help me : i am trying again23:59

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