[00:02] <doctormo> ok we can go through it now then, if you have any old branches, delete them in launchpad (unless you've got stuff to move over)
[00:02] <doctormo> Then we'll make a fresh branch and work from there.
[00:02] <pleia2> ok
[00:02] <pleia2> I'll check out a new branch
[00:03] <pleia2> oh, I have a question
[00:03] <pleia2> hehe
[00:03] <doctormo> sure thing
[00:03] <pleia2> so I already have a branch hanging out there in lp
[00:03] <pleia2> but I'd have to check it out againt to get it (I wiped the dev vm I was working on it in)
[00:04] <pleia2> it has stuff I want, but not much - do I need to check it out and save it now? will my new branch do something weird to it when I upload?
[00:04] <doctormo> pleia2: Not to worry, only be concerned if you pushed it to launchpad.
[00:04] <pleia2> I did
[00:04] <doctormo> Although lp is suffering from update-o'clock.
[00:04] <pleia2> doh!
[00:05] <doctormo> So we can't clean that up right now, just a make a note to delete that branch or mark it as invalid.
[00:05] <doctormo> just good house keeping
[00:05] <pleia2> ok
[00:05] <doctormo> OK, check yourself out a fresh branch using `bzr branch lp:ubuntu-learning-materials`
[00:05] <pleia2> this means I also can't check out your latest branch with the build scripts
[00:05] <doctormo> You should be able to read it, just not push anything
[00:07] <pleia2> hm, not working
[00:07] <pleia2> elizabeth@r2d2:~/bzr$ bzr branch lp:ubuntu-learning-materials
[00:07] <pleia2> bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:ubuntu-learning-materials": OOPS-1447EA25
[00:07] <doctormo> let me try
[00:09] <doctormo> Launchpad is obviously dead as a very dead thing.
[00:10] <pleia2> hehe
[00:12] <doctormo> pleia2: If I had an outgoing ip and a good router, I would have hosted my branch for you, but I forget how to.
[00:12] <pleia2> it's ok
[00:25] <pleia2> doctormo: I was able to grab the branch :)
[00:30] <doctormo> ok great!
[00:30] <doctormo> pleia2: How long do you have left? time wise?
[00:30] <pleia2> an hour
[00:30] <doctormo> ok
[00:30] <pleia2> then I have an irc meeting with my loco, but I can do both at once if we run over in time :)
[00:31] <doctormo> pleia2: Right, so change dir into the root of the branch
[00:31] <pleia2> done
[00:31] <doctormo> pick which section your new class will go under
[00:31] <doctormo> I assume community
[00:32] <pleia2> ok, this is under community
[00:32] <doctormo> since it's a leadership course.
[00:32]  * pleia2 nods
[00:32] <doctormo> now type `./builder/create.sh community my-leadership-course` taking care to change the name to what you wish it to be.
[00:32] <doctormo> this should create the directory community/what-ever-name-you-chose/
[00:33] <doctormo> and you should cd into it, in a different tab or window (so you can keep the root terminal open for building)
[00:33] <pleia2> neat
[00:34] <doctormo> OK, now just for testing, we're going to modify title.txt
[00:34] <pleia2> elizabeth@r2d2:~/bzr/ubuntu-learning-materials/community/leadership$ ls
[00:34] <pleia2> 01-begin.txt                introduction.txt  student_requirements.txt
[00:34] <pleia2> authors.txt                 presentation
[00:34] <pleia2> classroom_requirements.txt  resources
[00:34] <pleia2> there is no title.txt
[00:35] <doctormo> oh
[00:35] <doctormo> bug
[00:36] <doctormo> pleia2: OK I've just updated the create with title.txt you can just make one if you want, it's a single line file with the full english name of the course, spaces, capitals, everything.
[00:36] <pleia2> ok
[00:37] <doctormo> Now you've got that, in your root tab using the builder to compile your new class: `./builder/build.sh community what-ever-name-you-chose`
[00:38] <pleia2> oh, it tries to open up something in xorg, at the end huh? :)
[00:39] <doctormo> it should create a build directory and inside of that should be your category/class and inside that class dir should be your docbooks and testing html files.
[00:39] <doctormo> pleia2: It tries to load up firefox really poorly, I couldn't remember what the xdg open browser command was.
[00:39] <doctormo> So i just stuffed a firefox command in.
[00:40] <doctormo> I should script that out tbh, so peopel ca go `./builder/view.sh category class-name` and get either pdf or html up in some gui.
[00:40] <doctormo> instead of stuffing it in build
[00:41] <pleia2> I am not sure that did what it was supposed to do
[00:42] <pleia2> oh, there it is
[00:43] <doctormo> have a look at the html output, you should see one section
[00:44] <pleia2> yeah, in ubuntu-learning-materials/build/community/leadership/class.html
[00:45] <pleia2> cool
[00:50] <doctormo> pleia2: OK next, you want to modify 01-begin.txt rename it to something better for your first chapter, then copy it for each of the chapters you want to make for this class.
[00:50] <doctormo> pleia2: Then edit each one, adding in the chapter title, overview, demonstration and practical sections in that order.
[00:50] <doctormo> Most of the files have fairly descriptive contents
[00:50] <doctormo> So this part should be easy
[00:51] <doctormo> Just make sure you have txt files which have two numbers at the front, that when sorted will come out the way you want.
[00:51] <doctormo> Then build again to see your new results.
[00:52] <pleia2> okie
[00:53] <pleia2> neat :)
[00:54] <doctormo> ok pushed up to rev 24, that inlcudes that create fix, but also a new ./builder/view.sh script which launches firefox (to be replaced by xdg launch when I remember how to do it), the build.sh now also generates an index.html for testing.
[00:54] <doctormo> the view launches up the index too, so people can see all generated files.
[00:54] <doctormo> we'll have to spend some time making it all look pretty later on.
[00:54] <pleia2> great
[00:55] <pleia2> now, the thing that has been keeping me awake at night - I'm not sure that akgraner's loco document is appropriate for this project
[00:55] <pleia2> err, leadership
[00:56] <akgraner> don't lose sleep pleia2 :-)
[00:56] <pleia2> it's a great document, and we want to teach it, but in its raw form it really is just a document
[00:56] <pleia2> akgraner :)
[00:56] <doctormo> pleia2: It just needs some peer review love then, we knew we'd have to translate existing materials
[00:56] <doctormo> akgraner: do you want to work through the process we've just done to reform it?
[00:57] <pleia2> well, the thing is that the document itself is in progress
[00:57] <pleia2> so it needs a place to live while that work is being done (it's a google doc right now)
[00:57] <pleia2> *then* translate it into course form
[00:57] <akgraner> I was going to start adding to Chapter 1 in January...
[00:57] <akgraner> Chapter 2 is pretty much done
[00:57] <akgraner> but 1 and 3 need WORK
[00:58] <doctormo> pleia2: Getting the writing portion of it done under this system would help, not only getting thos einvolved familar, testing our system, but also to make it easier to keep track of training materials that are being written.
[00:58] <akgraner> doctormo, and pleia2 I will follow your guidance
[00:58] <akgraner> before I add anything else
[00:59] <pleia2> doctormo: what I see here is two different documents
[00:59] <pleia2> 1) leadership document
[00:59] <pleia2> 2) leadership course
[00:59] <pleia2> the course is based on the document
[00:59] <doctormo> What does the document specify?
[00:59] <doctormo> What is it's function?
[00:59] <pleia2> it's reference material on how to be a good leader
[01:00] <pleia2> http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AdKZelXU8Y2LZGNrcHRkYmhfMjljc3E2endkNQ&hl=en
[01:00] <pleia2> (if you can see that)
[01:02] <pleia2> and akgraner will kill us if we tell her it should be edited via the wiki :)
[01:03] <akgraner> hehe
[01:03] <akgraner> pleia2, I'll stick in a wiki if you need me to
[01:03] <akgraner> or did you already do that
[01:04] <pleia2> I haven't
[01:04] <pleia2> I am wondering if maybe it should just be kept as a google doc
[01:04] <akgraner> want me to stick it in a wiki
[01:04] <akgraner> you all just tell me what to do and I am there
[01:04] <pleia2> once a chapter is finished, we can develop a course around it
[01:05] <akgraner> so chapter 2 is done..once it is peer reviewed
[01:05] <pleia2> great :)
[01:07] <pleia2> yeah, I think this is the way to go
[01:07] <pleia2> akgraner: keep editing in the google doc, you'll just share it as needed with collaborators
[01:07] <pleia2> the release of the document is where things will get fun
[01:07] <akgraner> pleia2, ok
[01:08] <akgraner> wanna set a date for Chapter 1 say end of Feb?
[01:08] <pleia2> sounds good :)
[01:08] <akgraner> we set a goal for the 1-3 for Lucid
[01:08]  * pleia2 nods
[01:08] <akgraner> I know some people from the NC team who want to help
[01:09] <pleia2> great
[01:09] <akgraner> plus it will help toward contribution for them
[01:09] <pleia2> yes :)
[01:09] <akgraner> and for the team
[01:10] <akgraner> pleia2, just let me know when and who needs access and I'll add them per your request
[01:11] <pleia2> akgraner: are people just jumping in to write sections? or is there some kind of "I'll do this bit" coordination?
[01:11] <pleia2> (jumping in is fine, I don't think it's a big enough project to worry, just wondering)
[01:11] <akgraner> Jump in and do this bit
[01:12] <akgraner> gotta find links
[01:12] <pleia2> ok good
[01:12] <akgraner> that kinda stuff
[01:12] <akgraner> stuff people can send to me really and I can just add
[01:15]  * pleia2 nods
[01:17] <akgraner> so if you know people who want to help with that send them my way we can knock this thing out
[01:17] <pleia2> will do :)
[01:17] <pleia2> is there a blueprint/wiki page/anything around about developing this document?
[01:17] <akgraner> yeah a blueprint let me find the link
[01:18]  * akgraner is link challenged
[01:18] <pleia2> hehe
[01:19] <akgraner> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu-community/+spec/community-ubuntu-loco-leaderhsip
[01:19] <akgraner> we need to beef it up a bit..and some more to the white board
[01:19] <akgraner> and create a full spec (wiki) for it
[01:19] <pleia2> oh darnit, I have tasks on that
[01:19] <pleia2> hehe
[01:20] <pleia2> ok, I just wanted something to link to the learning team project wiki so we knew what progress was being made on this topic
[01:20] <pleia2> blueprint will do for now :)
[01:20] <akgraner> since you know my love of wiki's you'll notice there isn't one for the full spec yet...
[01:21] <akgraner> guess I'll express some wiki love and create the spec this week ok by Monday
[01:21] <akgraner> will that work
[01:21] <pleia2> hehe
[01:28] <akgraner> does anyone really *luv* wiki's
[01:33] <nigel_nb> pleia2: um, around?
[01:33] <pleia2> nigel_nb: yeah, but I might be slow to respond, loco meeting in progress :)
[01:34] <nigel_nb> pleia2: okay, later, needed your help with something (nothing urgent), another day :)
[01:36] <pleia2> nigel_nb: you can PM if you want :) I won't be busy for long
[01:46] <nigel_nb> pleia2: its okay, I think my ISP-given modem is at fault why i cant open ports, I just wanted to check with you if u had any idea
[01:46] <nigel_nb> pleia2: how to confirm that suspicion...
[01:46] <pleia2> nigel_nb: have a firewall on your system?
[06:03] <Sagaci> is the Ubuntu Community Learning Project (http://learn.ufbt.net/) open for students?
[06:06] <bodhizazen> yes Sagaci
[06:06] <bodhizazen> although we are putting content in place
[06:07] <Sagaci> sorry to bother you but could you see if i've registered
[06:11] <bodhizazen> user name ?
[06:16] <Sagaci> bodhizazen: err, sorry, either Sagaci, sagaci, jpickett or pickettj
[06:17] <bodhizazen> Don't see you on the list:(
[06:18] <Sagaci> bodhizazen: can I create an account
[06:18] <bodhizazen> I believe so
[06:19] <Sagaci> there's no registration function
[06:20] <bodhizazen> register with openid, use your launchpad id
[06:21] <Sagaci> doesn't seem to work
[06:23] <bodhizazen> you blocking cookies ?
[06:24] <Sagaci> don't think so
[06:24] <Sagaci> https://launchpad.net/~jpickett
[06:24] <Sagaci> i try logging in with jpickett but to no avail
[06:25] <Sagaci> gotcha
[10:37] <Pendulum> pleia2, FFEMTcJ: I'm going to ask the Ubuntu Podcast from the UK guys if they'll mention the User Day in their events section for their last podcast of the season :)
[10:58] <popey> when is it?
[10:58] <Pendulum> January 23rd starting at 1200 UTC :)
[10:59] <Pendulum> popey: btw, if you lot don't mind having Americans on the show, btw, I have a friend considering switching to Ubuntu who I might be able to poke and say "hey, you should let these guys interview you early on so they can get a sense of new-user struggles :)
[11:00] <Pendulum> sorry, that may not have made sense, it's early here
[11:01] <popey> it made sense to me
[11:01] <Pendulum> i think it was just a little redudant and rambly
[11:01] <popey> Pendulum: can you drop a one line "date, time, location, event, url" to podcast@ubuntu-uk.org pls?
[15:57] <nigelbabu> okay, so if Pendulum or popey responded to my pings, sorry, missed what you said
[16:00] <pleia2> FFEMTcJ: great work on getting the UUD schedule into shape :)
[16:04] <pleia2> we'll flesh out the real schedule on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDays once we've filled all the subjects in
[16:04] <nigelbabu> lemme see if i can get my limited gimp abilities to get a uud logo
[16:05] <pleia2> thanks nigelbabu :)
[16:05] <pleia2> we have the option of asking the art team too
[16:06] <nigelbabu> hmm, if I make a mess of it (highly probable), will ask them ;)
[16:08] <nigelbabu> pleia2: oh btw, you're happy with the direction the scripts have gone?
[16:08] <nigelbabu> I mean as far as asciidoc/bzr is concerned..
[16:09] <pleia2> nigelbabu: yes, I think we need to flesh out the documentation a bit more but we're well on our way :)
[16:09] <nigelbabu> pleia2: in that case, I'll take it as final for now and finish my course around the way things are now
[16:10] <pleia2> nigelbabu: once your changes are merged into the trunk I might pull it out and make some changes based on my experience
[16:10] <pleia2> and add my asciidoc stuff
[16:10] <nigelbabu> pleia2: you've got asciidoc stuff lined up?
[16:11] <pleia2> only really basic, I'll have more to add once I make a mess with writing the course itself ;)
[16:11] <pleia2> "oh, there needs to be a newline here, can't have these characters here..."
[16:12] <nigelbabu> actually, there is some trouble with the scripts in that regard, some minor newline mistakes and stuff
[16:12] <nigelbabu> but I'm sure thats easy to correct
[16:13] <nigelbabu> I'll just put down my formatting stuff when I get the time then, i.e., tonight or saturday day time (your tz)
[16:13] <pleia2> oh good, that will help a lot :)
[16:26] <nigelbabu> night folks, off to work
[16:49] <FFEMTcJ> pleia2: that's what I was plannin on.... hehe
[16:49] <FFEMTcJ> hellow is supposed to be able to tell me tomorrow what he wants to teach.. other than that, no idea
[17:10] <FFEMTcJ> we do need to work on the main page.. make it look pretty
[19:46] <Pendulum> FFEMTcJ: if jono and the horsemen can't do it, I have a couple ideas for people to ask to talk about community stuff :)
[19:46] <FFEMTcJ> ok..
[19:47] <FFEMTcJ> there is jcastro dholbach
[19:48] <FFEMTcJ> right?
[19:51] <Pendulum> and dpm
[19:52] <FFEMTcJ> want to ping them and see if any of them can do it?
[19:56] <doctormo> Hey guys
[19:56] <FFEMTcJ> hey doc
[20:17] <Pendulum> FFEMTcJ: am about to ask jcastro. i think the other two are off for the night
[20:20] <Pendulum> FFEMTcJ: jcastro will do it :)
[20:24] <FFEMTcJ> sweet
[21:16] <nigel_nb> hey everyone
[21:17] <nigel_nb> Pendulum: wanted to talk to you earlier, but I was in a hurry to get to work
[21:17] <Pendulum> nigel_nb: what's up?
[21:17] <nigel_nb> Pendulum: is your cold better?
[21:18] <Pendulum> nigel_nb: it wasn't a cold, but yes, i'm starting to do better :)
[21:18] <FFEMTcJ> h1n1.. everyone run!
[21:18] <FFEMTcJ> ;-)
[21:19] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: in that case all of us were down with it
[21:19] <Pendulum> hah. nothing that glamourous ;)
[21:19] <nigel_nb> me, pleia2, doctormo - we all took turns to fall ill, one after another
[21:19] <doctormo> indeed
[21:20] <nigel_nb> Pendulum: I wanted to check with you about the voice overs
[21:20] <nigel_nb> Pendulum: if they're ready we could give links to the screencasts to Locos :)
[21:20] <nigel_nb> doctormo: are you doing better now?
[21:20] <doctormo> oh much!
[21:22] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: I was thinking up something about the user days
[21:22] <Pendulum> nigel_nb: I will have them this weekend. I'm on my 2nd 10-12 hour day at work in a row so the one you sent me isn't done yet (but at least my sound works again!)
[21:23] <nigel_nb> Pendulum: take your time, weekend is best for me
[21:23] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: What I was thinking was something like a picture with invitation and times for the course
[21:24] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: and a little inovative names for the courses so that they sound a bit more interesting....just a thought
[21:29] <FFEMTcJ> nigel_nb: maybe we need to all stop kissing each other
[21:29] <FFEMTcJ> hehe
[21:30] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: wha?
[21:30] <FFEMTcJ> each of us getting sicj
[21:30] <FFEMTcJ> sick
[21:30] <nigel_nb> haha
[21:30] <nigel_nb> thats kinda impossible
[21:30] <FFEMTcJ> lol
[21:30] <nigel_nb> I'm like on the other side of the world
[21:30] <FFEMTcJ> it was sarcasm
[21:31] <nigel_nb> I know ;)
[21:31] <nigel_nb> I'm killing the joke :P
[21:31] <FFEMTcJ> boo!
[21:31] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: so.. what do think of ^^
[21:33] <FFEMTcJ> that sounds good
[21:33] <FFEMTcJ> if you have someone to do the picture
[21:33] <nigel_nb> I'll play around with gimp when I get home
[21:34] <FFEMTcJ> cool
[21:34] <nigel_nb> you got any new courses?
[21:34] <FFEMTcJ> nope
[21:37] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: is it possible to redo one of the UOW courses?
[21:37] <nigel_nb> pleia2: are you around? opinion on ^^
[21:37] <Pendulum> nigel_nb: what are you thinking of?
[21:37] <FFEMTcJ> which one
[21:38] <nigel_nb> hold on.. dont remember the exact course, but there was a very good session. lemme look at the ouw logs
[21:39] <nigel_nb> ah, its popey's course on what to do when things go wrong
[21:39] <nigel_nb> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekKarmic/DontPanic
[21:39] <nigel_nb> it would be great for a new user
[21:39] <popey> :)
[21:39] <nigel_nb> either if he can take it or someone else can it, its a beautiful session
[21:39] <nigel_nb> I donno if we do this re-using thing though
[21:40] <Pendulum> i think it'd be a good one if he's willing
[21:40] <Pendulum> popey: ^^ ?
[21:41] <popey> hmm?
[21:41] <popey> someone wants to re-use my UOW session for some reason?
[21:41] <popey> go ahead, do whatever you want with it
[21:41] <Pendulum> popey: we were wondering if you would do it again for the User Day? (or let us find someone to redo it)
[21:41] <FFEMTcJ> does that cover like finding helpful resources?
[21:41] <popey> when is that ?
[21:41] <FFEMTcJ> jan 23
[21:41] <Pendulum> Jan 23rd
[21:42] <popey> it could probably do with a little tweaking, but yeah, no problem
[21:42] <FFEMTcJ> we already have finding helpful resources is why i ask
[21:42] <popey> I'm happy to do it, or if I'm busy, happy for someone else to re-purpose it, put my name down
[21:42] <Pendulum> popey: one sec and I'll mail the podcast with it as something you ought to mention as an upcoming event anyway :P
[21:42] <popey> smart move Pendulum
[21:42] <Pendulum> popey: thanks!
[21:42] <popey> np
[21:42] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: this is like, what to do when you get a blank screen.. dont panic, that kinda stuff
[21:43] <FFEMTcJ> sounds good to me
[21:43] <Pendulum> now to find e-mail...
[21:43] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: so one down, how many more blank spaces do u have?
[21:43] <FFEMTcJ> popey: will you teach it?
[21:43] <popey> i can do yes
[21:44] <FFEMTcJ> any specific time you'd like?
[21:44] <FFEMTcJ> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam
[21:44] <FFEMTcJ> I can move people around
[21:44] <popey> thanks, was just about to ask for that :)
[21:45] <popey> oh, its a saturday..
[21:45] <FFEMTcJ> i take it thats bad
[21:45] <Pendulum> FFEMTcJ: popey is a family man :)
[21:45] <popey> no, thats good
[21:45] <nigel_nb> surprise surprise :)
[21:45] <popey> so long as I have plenty of notice any time on saturday is good
[21:46] <popey> evenings are preferable 20:00 onwards
[21:46] <popey> but I can probably do any time
[21:46] <Pendulum> popey: and it's after Strictly is over so you won't have your Saturday evening date ;)
[21:46] <popey> just gimmie a few optionos
[21:46] <popey> haha
[21:46] <popey> i love my saturday evenings with sophie :)
[21:47] <popey> she's in bed by 20:00 though
[21:47] <FFEMTcJ> popey: whatever time you want and ill re-arrange the schedule.. seriously
[21:47] <popey> nah, I'll fit in
[21:47] <nigel_nb> Pendulum: whats is Strictly?
[21:47] <popey> i know some people have other stuff on
[21:47] <popey> http://www.bbc.co.uk/strictlycomedancing/
[21:47] <popey> that ^^
[21:47] <Pendulum> nigel_nb: Strictly Come Dancing is a tv show his daughter loves :)
[21:47] <nigel_nb> Pendulum: :)
[21:48] <nigel_nb> the only TV series I can stand now is House MD
[21:48] <popey> heh
[21:48] <Pendulum> i'm over a year out of date on house
[21:48] <Pendulum> and a few weeks out of date on Dollhouse
[21:48] <popey> my daughter has a very rare condition that has appeared on House! :)
[21:48] <popey> thats when you know something you have is rare, when house knows what it is :)
[21:48] <nigel_nb> popey: wow!
[21:48] <Pendulum> heh
[21:48] <nigel_nb> Pendulum: but arguably the best was 5th season for me
[21:49] <Pendulum> I know several people with conditions that have shown up on House, but that's because I have weird medical stuff myself
[21:49] <popey> hehe
[21:49] <Pendulum> nigel_nb: i've only seen like 4 episodes of that season
[21:49] <nigel_nb> everyting I see on house, I've known before
[21:49] <popey> http://www.housemd-guide.com/performancereviews/2007/08/310-merry-little-christmas.html
[21:49] <Pendulum> I haven't shown up on House yet, but that's just because I don't have a diagnosis yet ;) (I need my own House!)
[21:49] <popey> Langerhans cell histiocytosis
[21:49] <popey> everyone needs their own House!
[21:49] <nigel_nb> but I think it *might* have something to do with the fact that i work in the medical field
[21:50] <FFEMTcJ> popey: is 2000 good for you? utc?
[21:50] <popey> yup
[21:50] <FFEMTcJ> rather 2100?
[21:50] <popey> 20:00 is fine
[21:52] <Pendulum> I used to hang out on a message board for people with chronic illness and there were quite a few with lupus. So many jokes about how it's never lupus on that board ;)
[21:54] <FFEMTcJ> popey: is your wiki page just popey?
[21:54] <popey> heh
[21:54] <popey> it should be!
[21:55] <popey> it is now
[21:55] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/popey
[21:55] <popey> which just redirects
[21:56] <FFEMTcJ> i see that
[21:57] <nigel_nb> popey: that xkcd toon is a nice touch ;)
[21:57] <popey> :)
[21:58] <popey> hard to stick to
[21:58] <FFEMTcJ> nigel_nb: can you do 1700?
[21:58] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: no problem
[21:59] <nigel_nb> kicking out the TBD out there right?
[22:00] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: paultag, nhandler, and hellow, I think we can ask them to come up with something interesting ;)
[22:00] <FFEMTcJ> I've tried.. still waiting to hear back
[22:00] <nigel_nb> I'll but paul tonight ;)
[22:00] <nigel_nb> s/but/bug
[22:04] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: lemme ride out the last 2.5 hours of work, I'm sure something good will hit me in the meantime
[22:04] <FFEMTcJ> k
[22:05] <Pendulum> i'm heading home. will be on later from there if any of y'all need me for anything
[22:05] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: we need 4 topics now.....
[22:05] <FFEMTcJ> yup
[22:07] <FFEMTcJ> nigel_nb: updated
[22:07] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: better presentation
[22:07] <FFEMTcJ> thank pleia2
[22:08] <nigel_nb> FFEMTcJ: you'll be around tonight?
[22:09] <FFEMTcJ> if you ping me it goes to my cell so I can get on
[22:09] <nigel_nb> I'll catch hold of everyone and get some topics
[22:09] <nigel_nb> did u try asking shrini?
[22:10] <FFEMTcJ> I talked to hellow, he told he he would have something tomorrow hopefully
[22:10] <FFEMTcJ> I dont know shrini
[22:10] <nigel_nb> oh great :)
[22:10] <nigel_nb> ok, he's frm my loco, i'll mail him
[22:10] <nigel_nb> I mean shrini
[22:11] <nigel_nb> so, now we need 4 topics, a invitation of sorts, screecasts, and I need to get in touch with the volunteers from my loco.  Small list :)
[22:12] <FFEMTcJ> as we get more people, I'm extending the time as well
[22:12] <nigel_nb> awesome :)
[22:12] <FFEMTcJ> bbiab.. ping me if you need somethin
[22:12] <nigel_nb> I'm off
[22:12] <nigel_nb> catch ya later in the evening
[22:16] <doctormo> night