[00:11] <studentz> Here is where I am. STB connected to a Neuros OSD via composite and neuros streaming to my pc
[00:13] <studentz> disadvantages:  resolution is only the standar so no HD. The IR blaster does not work (atlanta scientific)
[00:14] <matt> studentz: is your IR blaster listed as a supported device?
[00:14] <matt> and i totally agree that the fact that its only SD is a disadvantage
[00:15] <matt> but it is what we have to work with
[00:15] <studentz> Unfortunately other people have the same issue, there is a work  around
[00:15] <studentz> but it did not work for me
[00:16] <matt> for your atlanta scientific blaster?
[00:17] <studentz> yes
[00:19] <matt> what exact model do you have?
[00:20] <studentz> let me check I'll back in a second
[00:21] <studentz> matt: The model is IPN330HD
[00:23] <matt> studentz: did you mention earlier that you were looking for info about uverse?
[00:23] <matt> nm you, it is a uverse box, mine are just older
[00:24] <matt> wow that was a horrible job of typing on my part, sorry about that
[00:24] <studentz> I'm lookin the best way to hook uverse with my pc. I love Neuros and specialy OSD
[00:24] <studentz> But i think I'm missing HD
[00:25] <matt> so the STB you have is the Scientific Atlanta one but what IR blaster do you have? or does it have an IR blaster included?
[00:25] <studentz> I does IR blaster included
[00:32] <hipitihop> Can someone quickly brief me on what is involved getting vdaup going ? does it also mean I need to use groups
[00:58] <goppp> hi
[00:59] <goppp> if I don't own a remote, can I sitll manage my mthytv via mylaptop thru a web interface or remotely
[00:59] <goppp> I am connecting to my pc, that connects to my crt tv, via svideo
[00:59] <goppp> I don't care much about quality,
[00:59] <goppp> just controling
[01:05] <goppp> ohk
[01:15] <goppp> !help hullu
[01:15] <Zinn> !help hullu For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[01:15] <goppp> !status
[01:15] <Zinn> I am alive.
[01:17] <goppp> !help netflixs
[01:17] <Zinn> !help netflixs For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[01:18] <goppp> !help web
[01:18] <Zinn> !help web For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[01:21] <rhpot1991> goppp: yes you can control it remotely, or with a keyboard
[01:21] <goppp> how do I control it remotely vnc
[01:21] <goppp> or a web plugin thru a web app
[01:22] <goppp> say I am in fr ont of th tv, on my laptop, and it connects to desktop mthyubuntu box, and I have no ir remote
[01:27] <goppp> !help livecd
[01:27] <Zinn> !help livecd For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[01:30] <rhpot1991> goppp: after you install in MCC you can enable VNC
[01:30] <rhpot1991> if you google there are ways of controlling via a web app or telnet as well
[01:31] <goppp> OR SSH
[01:31] <rhpot1991> if you are gonna break out a laptop you should just hook a keyboard up to it though
[01:31] <goppp> cool I will do
[01:31] <rhpot1991> IIRC the remote apps are telnet not ssh
[01:31] <goppp> oh
[01:31] <goppp> what I mean, is my desktop will will be backend and front end
[01:31] <rhpot1991> you should get everything running first with a keyboard
[01:31] <goppp> oh I see yea true
[01:32] <goppp> I wonder how slow it will run in virtualbox in fullscreen
[01:32] <rhpot1991> mythtv?
[01:32] <goppp> I or else to microcenter on staturday and get a new drive
[01:32] <goppp> yea
[01:32] <rhpot1991> I wouldn't
[01:32] <rhpot1991> playback would be terrible
[01:32] <goppp> I may just get a new drive, sata disk, and install
[01:32] <goppp> fresh
[01:32] <goppp> I use mylaptop for research and work
[01:33] <goppp> this pc, is just has my collection of stuff
[01:33] <goppp> and used to be my main box
[01:33] <goppp> not anymore
[01:33] <goppp> so when I get home form work, I have my crt tv, with basic cable, and my laptop with wifi
[01:34] <goppp> I wanted something to hook up to my crt tv, so I can watch hulu, and a nice frontend and free and also do pandora
[01:34] <rhpot1991> !hulu
[01:34] <Zinn> Hulu has released a Linux version of their desktop client. While support for this is available in the Hulu forums http://www.hulu.com/discussions/19 , there is a quick writeup on how to get it working from your frontend here http://www.mythbuntu.org/HowTo/HuluDesktop
[01:34]  * rhpot1991 wasn't a fan of hulu
[01:35] <goppp> oh
[01:35] <goppp> or just goto a .t someting :) and get fullseason
[01:35] <goppp> ;)
[01:35] <goppp> oh and I have a tv tunner rage all in wonder
[01:36] <goppp> not the latest or hightech
[01:36] <goppp> but I can plug in a coxial drop to it and get basic tv
[01:36] <goppp> does mthyubuntu support wubbi
[01:36] <goppp> instal, or would that also be to slow
[01:40] <goppp> !wubi
[01:40] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about wubi
[01:40] <goppp> !help wubi
[01:40] <Zinn> !help wubi For a  complete list of my knowledge visit: http://www.baablogic.net/Zinn.cgi  Other available commands: !status, !about, !bug [bug_number].
[01:40] <goppp> k thanks
[01:40] <goppp> bbl
[01:53] <goppp> !mysql
[01:53] <Zinn> If you are having problems connecting to your mysql database, you can perform the following to reconfigure it: 1. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.0 (pay attention to the root password you set, you will need it for the next step) 2. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-database 3. sudo dpkg-reconfigure mythtv-common
[02:01] <goppp> is wubbi working in 9.10
[02:16] <goppp> !wubi
[02:16] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about wubi
[03:16] <egghead> running mythbuntu 9.10, lirc irgor usb, is there a way to set the sample rate of the lirc kernel module?
[04:00] <bllz> I'm debating not creating a pagefile on my myhtbuntu installation in order to reduce disk writes ... I have 2 gigs of system ram
[04:01] <bllz> i'm guessing this is probably a bad idea so i've come here to have someone make me feel bad about it... unless it's not going to be a problem
[04:07] <goppp> hi
[04:07] <goppp> I am getting a error in grub, when using mythbuntu thru wubbi
[04:10] <bllz> what's the error, goppp?
[04:10] <bllz> also, you may have more luck in #ubuntu
[04:14] <goppp> oh
[04:14] <goppp> well it only showed my windows boot
[04:14] <goppp> in grub
[04:14] <goppp> it didnot show mythubuntu
[04:14] <goppp> I will check again, I didn't quite see error
[04:15] <goppp> and bliz you can't run as a test back end and front end on the live cd right
[04:16] <goppp> sorry if I missed you, I am multasker adder
[04:30] <rhpot1991> goppp: livecd can only run a frontend
[05:01] <bllz> if i make additional storage groups will the files contained therein still be accessible via the default smb share?
[05:07] <bllz> anybody?
[07:41] <bllz> why is the program guide in mythbuntu so sluggish?   I just reinstalled and this has never happened... the program guide takes about 10 seconds to respond to a push of a remote button
[14:20] <goppp> hi
[14:40] <goppp> k grub is saying unknow command drivemap
[14:42] <mrand> goppp: Googling that error turns up Bug #477104 and Bug #466745
[14:42] <Zinn> Bug 477104 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "After 9.10 grub update can not boot into Wubi install" [Critical, Confirmed] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/477104
[14:42] <mrand> come on Zinn... and Bug #466745
[14:42] <Zinn> Bug 466745 in wubi "Grub menu displays Windows XP on Wubi installation" [Undecided, Invalid] http://www.launchpad.net/bugs/466745
[14:45] <mrand> I'm guessing you aren't using a Wubi install, so you can probably skip the second one.  There may be other related bugs and probably topics in the ubuntu forums.  We've never encountered it though.
[14:47] <goppp> mrand:  oh
[14:50] <goppp> yea I am using wubbi
[14:54] <goppp> see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1318231
[15:12] <goppp> k I got dropped in to initramfs
[15:40] <MythbuntuGuest32> hello :D
[15:45] <rhpot1991> !hi
[15:45] <Zinn> Hi $nick, how are you?  Something we can help you with today?
[15:46] <MythbuntuGuest32> I kinda ran into trouble while configuring mythtv... the channel scan doesn't seem to do anything. I did a modprobe and everything seems to be in order with my tv card (pvr350), also did mplayer /dev/video0 and it gave me white noise :(
[15:49] <MythbuntuGuest32> so if the tv card works properly and the signal is good (tested on the tv card of my other box), what else could be the problem?
[16:05] <MythbuntuGuest32> I even tried to set up the channels manually, but when i enter watch tv in the front end I just end up in the main menu again
[16:56] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest32: can you plug the wire right into your tv and verify there is a signal on it?
[16:58] <rhpot1991> MythbuntuGuest32: you should try to tune it to a working channel (using ivtv-tune) and then cat /dev/video0 > test.mpg and see if that file has actual video
[18:03] <strubbel> well, it works now... but i had to enter the channel frequencies manually (tried with E05, S04 etc.) before
[19:27] <jussi01> hrm, so if my remote alrady "sort of" works, in that I get output from some buttons, how do I then actually modify what it does?
[19:34] <rhpot1991> jussi01: run irw see what buttons do what key presses, then edit your ~/.lirc/mythtv file to match
[19:35] <rhpot1991> when you are done make a backup of whatever files you modified, just in case they get overwritten
[19:35] <jussi01> rhpot1991: so I need to actually use lirc, even though I already get input.
[19:36] <rhpot1991> jussi01: maybe I didn't understand your question then, I assumed you were using lirc
[19:36] <rhpot1991> how do you "get input" then, your remote generates a keystroke?
[19:37] <jussi01> correct
[19:37] <jussi01> like I press 1 and it writes 1.
[19:37] <rhpot1991> just modify mythtv to use those keys for whatever you want them to be then
[19:39] <jussi01> rhpot1991: but how do I modify those keys?
[19:39] <jussi01> :D
[19:40] <rhpot1991> jussi01: mythweb can do it, or you can do it from your frontend
[19:41] <rhpot1991> should be something in the setup menu to edit keys
[19:51] <jussi01> rhpot1991: ok, Ive only part of myth installed by the looks of it, I tried to install over kde in 9.10
[20:01] <darthanubis> Mark Shuttleworth has just announced this morning via a blog post that he will be stepping down as the CEO of Canonical, the formal company behind Ubuntu Linux
[20:01] <darthanubis> http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/295
[22:27] <bllz> hi, i just reinstalled mythbuntu (same version... 9.10) but now all of the sudden the EPG is incredibly sluggish.  It takes about 10 seconds for it to respond to a single keypress!  The frontend menus are perfectly responsive and playback is smooth... what gives?
[22:29] <superm1> try changing the settings for what it uses to paint it
[22:29] <superm1> there are like 4 different settings that vary the degree of transparency
[22:30] <bllz> superm1:  i'll try taht now, thanks
[22:30] <bllz> that said, i didn't have to change those settings on the last installlation, so i'd be surprised if that were it
[22:34] <bllz> superm1:  are you talking about the paint engine setting?
[22:34] <superm1> no
[22:34] <superm1> there is a separate one for the EPG somewhere
[22:35] <bllz> ooh okay
[22:35] <bllz> let's see...
[22:36] <bllz> superm1:  call me stupid, but I can't find it anywhere...
[22:37] <superm1> i'm nowhere near my frontend right now so i'm not sure offhand where it's at
[22:37] <bllz> aah okay...
[22:37] <bllz> it's definitely in the frontend, though right?
[22:37] <superm1> it talks about using alpha blending
[22:37] <superm1> and how different settings are more cpu intensive
[22:37] <superm1> yeah it's in the frontend somewhere
[22:37] <bllz> hmm...
[22:40] <bllz> superm1:  the only thing I did differently was change the  storage group location for livetv and recordings to a different drive
[22:41] <bllz> think that might have something to do with it?
[22:41] <superm1> not likely
[22:41] <bllz> I didn't think so either...
[23:08] <bllz> superm1:  I think i'm just going to reinstall.  Is there a way to set up an lvm in the livecd, since there's no 9.10 alt install?
[23:09] <superm1> you shouldn't really need lvm with storage groups
[23:09] <superm1> but you can set it up via command line before you start the installer if you want
[23:09] <bllz> superm1: oh okay, great
[23:10] <bllz> superm1:  my concern with the storage groups is the smb shares (which I use heavily) ... will they still show all videos in a given storage group or will they only show the videos in the directory?
[23:32] <bllz> superm1:  do you know how to set up an lvm in the livecd?
[23:33] <rhpot1991> bllz: LVM isn't really  needed anymore
[23:33] <rhpot1991> if you do need it you have to use an alt cd
[23:33] <bllz> rhpot1991:  right, but won't the storage groups break the smb setup?
[23:34] <rhpot1991> how?
[23:34] <bllz> i.e.:  only the videos stored on the directory to which the videos share points to will be accessible... not the ones on a storage group on a separate drive
[23:34] <rhpot1991> you mount a smb point and add it to a storage group
[23:34] <bllz> oh. wait... you can do that?
[23:34]  * bllz missed the boat
[23:34] <rhpot1991> sure why not?
[23:35] <bllz> i just didn't realize that was an option.  that sure makes my life easier though!
[23:35] <rhpot1991> the only issues right now is that certain files don't work with storage groups
[23:35] <rhpot1991> ISOs, music, pictures
[23:35] <rhpot1991> recordings and videos work fine and you should be using storage groups for those
[23:35] <rhpot1991> that does remind me I may not have ISOs working on my frontend...
[23:36] <bllz> rhpot1991:  so let me just make sure i have this correct... i just add a new storage troup for recordings and videos in the backend setup and myth will automatically ballance them based on I/O and disk space?
[23:36] <bllz> rhpot1991:  and what's the path to a storage group?  i.e. what would i put in the smb.conf file?
[23:38] <markl_> i have some dvd images here, not using storage groups
[23:38] <markl_> not isos, but copies of what would be in the isos e.g. what you get with dvdbackup -M
[23:38] <markl_> i.e. a directory named MARKS_MOVIE and inside that a VIDEO_TS directory
[23:38] <markl_> in myth 0.21 when i'd use mythvideo and open MARKS_MOVIE, i'd get the dvd menu
[23:38] <markl_> in 0.22 it just shows VIDEO_TS
[23:38] <markl_> is there a way to have it bring up the dvd menu?
[23:38] <bllz> mark1_:  superm1 just got done telling me taht .iso's don't work very well in storage groups
[23:38] <bllz> nor do pictures and music
[23:38] <markl_> i'm not using storage groups
[23:39] <rhpot1991> !iso
[23:39] <Zinn> Storage Groups are a streaming method of transmitting material to a frontend, meaning they don't provide block-level access to the file in question. An ISO is a disk image, and requires block-level access. Upstream has a plan to simulate a block device across the network using NBD for 0.23. Until then you can use the following workaround: http://www.baablogic.net/drupal/node/7
[23:39] <markl_> they are silly
[23:39] <rhpot1991> follow them directions and it will help
[23:39] <markl_> it is not an ISO
[23:39] <markl_> this workaround doesn't work
[23:39] <bllz> aah sorry, i read too quickly =)
[23:39] <rhpot1991> markl_: make sure that the file extension is enabled
[23:40] <bllz> rhpot1991: so do i have the idea behind storage groups correct?
[23:40] <markl_> file extension?  there is no file extension
[23:40] <markl_> those are kind of silly too since there is a file command
[23:41] <markl_> myth 0.21 seemed to just do the right thing when it ran into a directory with VIDEO_TS in it
[23:42] <rhpot1991> markl_: go look in the settings there are options to ignore certain files, make sure one of those isn't causing this
[23:43] <rhpot1991> bllz: well you'd tell your smb mount to mount to a location like /var/lib/mythtv/newfolder
[23:43] <rhpot1991> then you'd add that location to a storage group
[23:43] <rhpot1991> and mythtv would automagically use it for files and clean it up as it needs space
[23:43] <bllz> rhpot1991:  okay so then the problem is still there
[23:43] <rhpot1991> what problem is that?
[23:44] <bllz> rhpot1991:  namely, i'll end up with several smb shares
[23:44] <rhpot1991> bllz: well depends what you wanted to do with it
[23:44] <bllz> as opposed to one single one for videos, one single one for recordings, etc
[23:44] <markl_> ok any idea what "wittewim" is talking about in this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1310237
[23:44] <rhpot1991> could do one for movies and one for recordings
[23:44] <rhpot1991> heck you could do a single share and mount it to /var/lib/mythtv/smb
[23:44] <markl_> he said that he "removed all the folder settings in the backend"
[23:44] <rhpot1991> and then within there have a movies and recordings directory
[23:44] <markl_> does that mean in the mythconverg database?
[23:45] <bllz> rhpot1991:  the only reason I want to use an lvm is so that when i go to, say, the video share all my videos are there
[23:46] <bllz> and, unless i'm misunderstanding you, if I add storage groups to make use of my second drive, I'll end up with my videos share only seeing some of the videos (the ones in it's directory... everything on the other drive will not be accessible)
[23:46] <rhpot1991> markl_: follow the link I told you about before, most likely the ones mentioned in there
[23:46] <rhpot1991> warning this may cause other issues
[23:46] <rhpot1991> bllz: you can have more than one directory in a storage group
[23:47] <rhpot1991> just like you can add multiple hard drives to a LVM
[23:47] <bllz> right, sorry... i was unclear
[23:47] <rhpot1991> I guess I'm not sure what your concern is
[23:47] <markl_> rhpot1991: that link just shows frontend settings
[23:47] <bllz> rhpot1991:  haha yeah i'm not being very clear.  let me try again =)
[23:47] <rhpot1991> bllz: unless you mean where he says storage groups, thats done in mythtv-setup
[23:47] <rhpot1991> s/bllz/markl_/
[23:48] <markl_> here's the one with more detail: "On mythbackend there is a configuration option for several directories. Just remove all (except recordings and live_tv). You can define your video folder again on the frontend. That way you use the old method and VIDEO_TS folders are recognized as movies."
[23:48] <rhpot1991> markl_: ya that makes sense, he is removing the storage groups and going back to how .21 used to function, you will need to nfs share files if you have multiple frontends though
[23:49] <rhpot1991> mythtv-setup, number 6 I think storage groups
[23:49] <bllz> rhpot1991:  My question is as follows.  If I add a directory to a storage group that has a preconfigured smb share attributed to it (i.e., I add /dev/500gb/morevideos to the video storage group), will I be able to see videos stored in the newly added location in the SMB share?
[23:49] <markl_> i built a ridiculous nfs/iscsi server years ago just for mythtv
[23:49] <markl_> so i'm all set
[23:50] <markl_> guess that's why i'm confused about how much time was wasted developing storage groups
[23:50] <markl_> :)
[23:50] <rhpot1991> storage groups are the greatest things since sliced toast
[23:50] <markl_> mythmusic is the real weak link that needs to be addressed
[23:50] <bllz> mark1_:  lol u trollin ;-)
[23:50] <markl_> bllz: ya just being silly
[23:50] <markl_> except about the mythmusic comment, it needs work
[23:50] <rhpot1991> eventually things that aren't video or recordings will use them, in due time
[23:50] <bllz> mark1_: lol me too.  i'm still trying to lrn2storage directory
[23:51] <rhpot1991> markl_: it gest the job done, but ya its not pretty
[23:51] <bllz> yet...
[23:51] <markl_> mythmusic hasn't really changed in years
[23:51] <markl_> and the visualizations are embarrassing
[23:51] <markl_> i need to crack open the opengl book instead of whining though :)
[23:52] <rhpot1991> bllz: so /dev/500gb/morevideos exists on your backend, or on some other box?
[23:52] <rhpot1991> and its smb shared to what?
[23:52] <bllz> rhpot1991:  it's on my backend, but it's not the primary system drive
[23:52] <bllz> i have a combined frontend/backend
[23:52] <bllz> lol i always forget people have setups in which the two are separate =)
[23:53] <rhpot1991> or multiples :)
[23:53] <bllz> yeah... someday!
[23:53]  * rhpot1991 looks at 3 boxes surrounding him
[23:53]  * bllz gets jealous
[23:54] <rhpot1991> !frontend | bllz
[23:54] <Zinn> bllz: Ion Boxes make a great frontend.  http://www.baablogic.net/drupal/node/2
[23:54] <bllz> ooooh
[23:54]  * bllz is a 76er...
[23:55] <bllz> no way is taht passive cpu cooling?
[23:55] <rhpot1991> yep
[23:55] <bllz> nice
[23:55] <bllz> very nice
[23:56] <bllz> rhpot1991:  so about those storage groups and smb... did you catch my reduxed/cleaned-up question?
[23:57] <rhpot1991> well its on your backend, but where are you smb mounting it?
[23:57] <bllz> smb is pointing to the default directory
[23:57] <bllz> (this is all hypothetical as of right now)
[23:57] <rhpot1991> what default directory?
[23:57] <bllz> /var/lib/mythtv/videos
[23:57] <rhpot1991> ummm you don't need samba for that, you'd use samba to mount that directory on another box or a windows box
[23:58] <bllz> right i udnerstand that, but i'm just curious as to what happens when I sit at my laptop and try to add movies to my server via smb
[23:58] <bllz> and i have 2 directories in a storage group
[23:58] <rhpot1991> if you wanted you could just symlink to that, but with storage groups there is no reason not to have /var/lib/mythtv/videos and /dev/newdrive/Iwantmorespace
[23:58] <rhpot1991> bllz: you add files and they show up
[23:58] <bllz> or, conversely, what happens when I'm sitting at my laptop and i want to copy a movie from my server to my lappy's harddrive via smb
[23:59] <bllz> rhpot1991:  right, but do they get balanced across the storage group?
[23:59] <rhpot1991> you'd scan for changes in the videos section and it just finds them
[23:59] <rhpot1991> bllz: if you are adding you'd add them where you want them
[23:59] <bllz> and in the second condition, do I have access to *all* videos or just the ones in the directory to which smb points?
[23:59] <rhpot1991> access through what?
[23:59] <bllz> right, so i'd need an smb share for each directory in the storage group
[23:59] <rhpot1991> smb on the laptop, or the frontend
[23:59] <rhpot1991> bllz: is the laptop running linux?
[23:59] <bllz> smb on the frontend.  it's all on the frontend