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vinnlI do so too, but I could guess xfce4-panel ;-)00:00
fander123guys I tried all methods and only the top panel restored. But the panel is too strange! There's no Application menu and there are new icons, and it's located in the middle, it's not stretched from the left to the right. It's just a small panel on the top!00:08
fander123what's wrong with xfce! This problem happened with me with all xubuntu versions! I tried xubuntu 8.04 and this happened, since then I removed xubuntu but this week I wanted to try it again.00:09
fander123this is too strange00:09
vinnlOuch, sounds like your whole configuration has been deleted :S00:09
vinnlI would help you out but it really is time for me to get to bed now, so I hope someone else will do so... Good luck :)00:09
fander123anybody else please?00:14
_Techie_right click the bar and configure it00:28
_Techie_add a new panel00:28
_Techie_put it at the bottom, set it to span the screen00:28
_Techie_add the items you want00:28
fander123_Techie_: which bar?01:14
PhantomFreakCan anyone help me get prboom working? Crashes out when the demo tries to load or start a new game.01:36
ubuntuaxionany techs available?01:57
ubuntuaxionor tech saavy people01:57
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bittin|if Xubuntu takes 20minutes to live boot on a P3 should i burn an alternative CD then?08:46
* bittin| is installing Xubuntu on the old Dell Latiude i got from my Aunt today =)08:57
_Pete_what model exactly?08:58
bittin|PP01X08:59
bittin|PP01X Latitude C80008:59
_Techie_bittin|, if your only installing it doesnt matter whether you do it from the livecd or not09:11
_Techie_whichever method you choose, the system will still perform the same once installed09:11
bittin|_Techie_: it booted from the Live XD and worked perfect just the loading that took a while, but think that will go faster when it loads from the HDD and not the CD09:14
_Techie_it will go much faster09:14
bittin|will run awesome instead off XFCE tough :p09:49
bittin__Xubuntu works fine on this hardware =)10:40
retour_euXubuntu 9.10. System bug!!! After changing screen resolution from default 1280 to anything else system is not able to log in - always tries and returns back to the login screen. Any known fixes? Machine: DELL Optiplex GX280 (P4 2.8GHz HT, 1GB RAM, Intel onboard video chipset)12:29
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likemindeadMy wife's laptop suddenly stopped playing DVDs (played them just fine before). :-(14:33
nwadawglikemindead: any new updates?14:34
likemindeadNo doubt.14:34
nwadawgthats on the CQ60 right?14:35
likemindead0__o14:36
* likemindead looks for nwadawg over his shoulder.14:36
likemindeadYes.14:36
nwadawgmine drive was making noise14:36
likemindeadI've tried VLC, MPlayer, Totem, Xfmedia... all to no avail.14:37
nwadawgit was real dirty14:37
nwadawghmm14:37
likemindeadAny ideas where to start troubleshooting?14:38
nwadawglooking14:38
nwadawgmake sure input is /dev/sr0 in vlc14:40
likemindeadRoger.14:40
likemindeadhttp://imagebin.ca/img/hV8yuL.png14:41
likemindeadThat's what VLC is giving me.14:41
likemindeadAnd I've tried a couple of different DVDs.14:42
nwadawghmm14:42
nwadawgyou running the new vlc?14:42
likemindeadIt's whatever version is in the *buntu repos.14:42
likemindead1.0.2 apparently.14:43
nwadawg1.0.4 in get-deb repro14:43
likemindeadUh... so libdvdcss2 isn't installed, but was before?!14:45
likemindeadWTF.... I installed xubuntu-restricted-extras weeks ago.14:45
nwadawgthat would be it14:45
likemindeadYep. Everything's happy now. My wife can watch the flipping Gilmore Girls... 0__o14:52
nwadawglol14:54
likemindeadLater. ;-)14:55
PredaGRhello world, how do I set the default audio device in Xubuntu?15:16
PredaGRno one knows how I set the default audio device in Xubuntu?15:37
vinnlPredaGR, not with xfce4-mixer?15:38
PredaGRI do open it, though it doesn't have a button saying, make default or similar, now all my audio suddenly, is routed to my second audio15:39
vinnlPredaGR, hmm, and if you right click on the speaker icon in your panel, is there a menu item that you could use? Preferences or something?15:40
PredaGRohh you are right, and the selected is my HDAudio, but still no sound out of it, even after reboot15:41
vinnlHmmm... Do you happen to have installed PulseAudio?15:42
PredaGRnot pulse audio at all, I went away from Ubuntu because of PA15:42
PredaGReveryone hates it, I wonder why they keep using PA15:43
vinnlOh, I like it :)15:43
vinnl(If it works :P)15:43
PredaGRyou are the first to hear this from, at least read15:43
vinnlYeah, well, it hasn't really been used to its full potential yet, but I've installed Ear Candy, which uses PulseAudio to automatically mute my music when I e.g. play a YouTube video, then turns up the volume again when the video has finished. Which is cool :)15:44
vinnlBut ehm, then I don't know what the problem is :S15:44
PredaGRwow that is cool15:44
vinnl^.^15:44
vinnlIt's not perfect yet but the idea is awesome. I wonder what else people will come up with15:45
PredaGRreminds me of a telephone I used to have, it made all radio signals go away, so RF radio and TV was going mute by them self, along with the rest of the neighbourhood15:46
vinnlOh nice15:46
PredaGRand I still cannot bring audio back into my speakers, jack in place, volume set, and when playing, headphones sound15:48
PredaGRand it was working just an hour ago15:49
vinnl!sound15:49
ubottuIf you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP315:49
vinnlHmm, perhaps some of those links can hel15:49
PredaGRreading in progress15:49
PredaGRone card is Intel HDA and the other is an old PCI sound blaster15:50
PredaGRusing the second one to voice comm15:51
PredaGRheh intersting, rebooting did not work, but alsa force-reload did16:10
vinnlCool :)16:10
PredaGRthanks alot for the reading, it helped16:11
RottenEgg3XHi all!16:34
vinnl!hi | RottenEgg3X16:34
ubottuRottenEgg3X: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay!16:34
RottenEgg3Xthx!16:35
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rr72_is there an xdm? like kdm/gdm but w/ x?17:55
knomerr72_, what about googling?17:56
rr72_in ternet is down :-P17:58
knomeno it's not :P17:58
Sysiiirc xdm isn't quite comparable like that17:58
Sysi!info xdm17:58
ubottuxdm (source: xdm): X display manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.8-6ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 185 kB, installed size 796 kB17:58
rr72_how so? if it works then i will use it lolcause gdm and kdm are screwy, kdm puts me into low graphics mode while gdm runs an endless loop that stops when I only push power button then it shuts down, so I can't do much work18:00
Sysiwell, xdm is an option18:00
Tesssaam using 9.4 is it worthwhile upgrading to 9.10 or waiting for 10.4 in april next year18:15
likemindeadIf you're adventurous, go ahead & upgrade to 9.10 :D18:16
Tesssanot that adventurous18:17
Tesssaseems i will wait18:17
Tesssaand upgrade nwhen the final 10.4 comes out18:17
Sysiif it works and you don't miss anything, why to update?18:19
Sysiumph, i want something nice and working, like xubuntu 9.0418:20
Tesssa9.4 works very well18:20
Sysithere isn't anything interesting in the market currently18:20
Tesssaand no doubt the final 10.4 will work very well18:21
Tesssaso will wait18:21
rr72_knome~ i ran gdm w/o X installed and got the information I needed :-D18:21
Sysii would have waited but i couldn't :(18:22
Sysii broke it18:22
Sysihmm, freebsd..18:22
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nonexkshello ... i need to know how to uninstall xubuntu and i cant get live cd to run it just boots from hd every time so i can partition it20:14
_Techie_have you set it to boot from cdrom in the bios?20:17
Sysiright boot sequence in bios menu?20:17
_Techie_morning Sysi20:17
nonexksya ... i loaded it from live cd20:17
nonexksi have used two diffrent cds trying to get it to boot ubuntu or xubuntu20:18
nonexksfor some reason its not giveing me the menu to boot from cd or install etc20:18
Sysievening _Techie_20:18
nonexksany ideas20:19
nonexksumm maybe take hd out of boot sequance all to gather20:20
nonexksnon system disk20:20
nonexksmaybe my disk isnt bootable for some reason20:21
likemindeadStrange, nonexks. Did you check the disk for errors? Or run an MD5 hash?20:22
nonexksya i have installed from both disks on simular computers in the last few days ... but they all had windows 2K on them20:23
nonexkswhat is MD% hash20:23
nonexksMD520:23
likemindead!MD520:24
ubottuTo verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows20:24
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nonexksok it works fine on another computer so i am thinking its not the cd20:32
likemindeadYou could also try http://partedmagic.com/ if you just want to wipe out the Xubuntu partition(s).20:33
nonexksi am at a xubuntu desktop right now ... is it possable to do something here to install ubuntu on it20:33
likemindeadYou can install the "ubuntu-desktop" package.20:33
likemindeadThat'll give you GNOME, etc.20:33
nonexkswell ... umm my problam is i have been experamenting with this computer and have jacked up im sure alot of stuff on the hard drive and would like to start fresh20:34
nonexksI am accualy likeing xubuntu more than gnome20:34
nonexksi wish there was a start over command lol ... tell it to reset everything to (installed state)20:36
likemindeadYeah, just download Parted Magic and use it to partition.20:36
likemindeadThen re-install Xubuntu.20:36
likemindeadNo worries. We've all been there. ;-)20:36
nonexksya i guess im gona have to do that20:37
nonexksguess i should quit trying to be lazy and just get it over with lol20:37
nonexksdoes parted run on windows ?20:38
likemindeadIt's a Live CD.20:38
likemindeadNice & small & powerful.20:38
nonexkscool20:40
nonexksok i just pluged a cd buner into xubuntu ... do i need to mount it or download drivers ?20:41
likemindeadIt's an external CD-RW drive?20:42
nonexksyes20:42
nonexksi am still putting my network togather after a move lol .. sucks20:43
likemindeadShould just work.20:43
likemindeadDo you have Brasero installed (to burn discs)?20:43
nonexksproblaby not ... was just looking for it20:44
nonexksahh guess i do20:44
nonexksok gona have to figgure out how to mount a usb drive im thinking20:44
likemindeadOpen Brasero & see if it sees your blank CD-R.20:45
likemindeadOpen your file manager (Thunar) and see if it's there in the left column.20:45
nonexksnope20:45
nonexksshowing only one cd under media .. cdrom0 ... i think the ubs one would show up as cd 120:46
nonexks!usb cd20:47
nonexks!usb20:47
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent20:47
nonexks!mount usb20:47
nonexkswow is there an easy way to mount a usb cdrw20:49
nonexksgona try rebooting and see if something in grub loads it or what ever you call that thing that starts the os20:49
nonexksis that grub20:50
likemindeadHmm. It should just pop right up, nonexks.20:52
nonexksfound something called install release under system menu i think its gona try to install from the cd ... if so maybe i can tell it to erase the system20:53
likemindeadHmm... not familiar with that. (I'm on a computer at work using CrunchBang Linux right now.)20:58
nonexksumm whats CrunchBang ... sounds neet21:15
retour_euhow to force own resolution and refresh rate during installation or after installation? default in 9.10 is useless for LCD and CRTs anyway and there is a bug preventing changing it21:18
cody-somervilleretour_eu, The default should be the highest resolution possible.21:20
_Techie_!xrandr21:22
ubottuXRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1221:22
retour_eucody-somerville: how and where to change it? The cute XFCE settings manager doesnt work. I feel like I'm back in 1995 with linux and all the graphics related bugs21:23
retour_euand xorg.conf doesn.t exist anymore21:23
cody-somervillexorg.conf doesn't exist cause autodetection works so great now21:24
cody-somervillelol21:24
cody-somervilleWhat graphics card do you have?21:24
retour_eucody-somerville: I have Intel integrated 915G Express. Default setting is 1280@60Hz. For CRT 60Hz is a joke and for LCD 1280 is a joke. Changing by hand in XFCE Display manager works only once. During next boot  system loops around login screen without starting the desktop21:30
cody-somervilleretour_eu, What version of Xubuntu are you running?21:31
retour_eu9.10 because it suppose to be the long term support21:31
knomeretour_eu, no, 9.10 is not LTS21:33
retour_eunow I have 2 accounts/users. One where I dont touch anything and using it now and the other one where I'm dreaming to be able to set own res and refresh rate (lower than max and default) just 1024@85Hz21:33
retour_euknome: well I can live with that at least it is supported until mid or late 2011 (what wiki says)21:33
knome!karmic21:34
ubottuUbuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/91021:34
knomeumsh, yes21:34
retour_euhow to configure custom res and refresh in 9.10 ?21:54
cody-somervilleretour_eu, Whats the default res and refresh for you?21:55
cody-somervilleugh, 915G uses the Poulsbo driver doesn't it?21:57
retour_eu1280@60Hz I need 1024@8521:58
cody-somervilleor is that the 500 series?21:59
* cody-somerville investigates.21:59
retour_euXFCE works only once per account - 1-st time I change it works but after next log in this account is dead and not able to pass login screen21:59
retour_eugoing to install DisplayConfig GTK and see if it works22:00
cody-somervilleretour_eu, Just to confirm, you say you're able to set it to 1024@85 via the Xfce display settings?22:02
retour_euYES I'M! But it works ONLY 1 time - right after the change! Next reboot and this user is dead - cant pass login screen22:10
retour_eudo I need some I915 bug patch? I've heard something about it if remember well22:10
retour_eucody-somerville:  Yes! read above22:10
_Techie_retour_eu, please dont use unnecessary capitalisation22:14
_Techie_retour_eu, have you tried setting it with xrandr?22:15
_Techie_in the past i have had systems where i left the display settings as default and changed them using a startup script and xrandr22:16
cody-somervilleretour_eu, I'm no X.org expert might you might try this xorg.conf file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/343688/22:17
retour_eu_Techie_:  no never used xrandr. But I'm afraid it will not cure my problem. System changes resolution to the lower one and uses it succesfully during that session. But the next time it seems is not able to initialize XFCE with new settings22:18
retour_eucody-somerville: great thanks for all your time! Were should I put it? I've made my own xorg.conf and put it into /etc/X11 but looks like it is simply ignored22:19
cody-somervilleretour_eu, you have to restart X for it to take affect22:20
retour_euI can restart whole machine. But where is best place to insert it in the xorg.conf? Now I've pasted it under my section "Screen". And I already had declarations: Section "Monitor"22:24
retour_eu        Identifier "Configured Monitor"22:24
retour_eu        Horizsync 50.0-160.022:24
retour_eu        Vertrefresh 30.0-96.022:24
retour_eu        Option "PreferredMode" "1152x864"22:24
retour_euEndSection22:24
knome!pastebin22:24
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://ubuntu.pastebin.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from  command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic22:24
cody-somervilleretour_eu, I thought you said your xorg.conf didn't exist.22:26
cody-somervilleretour_eu, Can you pastebin what you already have in there?22:26
retour_eucody-somerville: I added your line so will give it a try BRB and report back with my present xorg.conf22:27
retour_eucody-somerville: almost didnt make it - major config issues at startup22:41
cody-somervilleretour_eu, I tried to warn you but you left too quick22:42
retour_euthats OK at least now I HAVE 1024 in emergency mode or so called low graphics mode so something is apparently working. It is a good path but now XFCE display config shows 0Hz refresh rate hehe22:43
cody-somervilleheh22:43
retour_eucody-somerville: but what do you suggest now? delete the whole xorg.conf or pastebin it and you would kindly look at it?22:44
cody-somervilleretour_eu, remove what you just added to it and move it aside to xorg.conf.backup or something22:45
cody-somervilleretour_eu, then create a new xorg.conf with just the stuff I pasted.22:45
retour_eucody-somerville: Oh - ok! I didn't know xorg.conf can be soooo simple. So maybe I can delete everything from the present one and leave only your lines/section?22:47
cody-somervilleretour_eu, thats what we're going to do but we're going to make a backup of the file first22:47
retour_eualready have it! thank you BRB22:48
_Techie_*sigh*22:51
_Techie_he completely disregarded my input earlier, and it probably would have worked22:51
cody-somervilleThis is simpler then modifying boot scripts to add a call to xrandr, no?22:52
_Techie_about the same22:55
retour_eucody-somerville: Hmm same problem! Is it possible that your modeline is not accepted fully?22:58
cody-somervilleaye22:59
retour_eucody-somerville: I also left section with driver data 915G etc since it was working or at least not crashing anything before22:59
retour_eucody-somerville: so what you suggest?23:01
cody-somervilleretour_eu, can you pastebin the output of xrandr?23:02
retour_eucody-somerville: err what is xrandr or exactly what command should I type in Terminal?23:04
cody-somervillethe command is 'xrandr'23:04
retour_euok23:04
cody-somervilleIts a primitive command line interface to the RandR extension23:05
retour_eucody-somerville: http://paste.ubuntu.com/343695/23:06
cody-somervilleretour_eu, does this work? xrandr --output default --mode 1024x768 --rate 8523:08
retour_eucody-somerville: jak tego uzyc? do xorga wkleic?23:10
cody-somervilleretour_eu, sorry?23:10
_Techie_even im confused23:10
retour_eucody-somerville:  how to use it? direct terminal command or line in the xorg?23:11
_Techie_commadn23:11
_Techie_command*23:11
retour_eusorry for wrong language in the wrong window23:11
retour_eudo I need to be a root? nothing happened23:11
retour_euI'm in a low graphic/emergency mode if this may be a problem23:12
cody-somervilleright so you're at the lower resolution already23:13
retour_euor it is called like it but resolution is 1024 - exactly what I want23:13
cody-somervilleCan you exit the low graphic/emergency mode and return to a normal session?23:14
retour_eucody-somerville: yes xrandr listed it as my current resolution (102423:14
retour_eucody-somerville: hmm don't know. I can only rename my xorg.conf to anything else or move all xorg files with extensions to a different place and reboot and see if it will work like before with 1280 as a default screen and Display Setting bug23:16
cody-somervilleretour_eu, just delete your current xorg.conf23:16
retour_euOk! Thank you for your time - BRB23:16
boscopI've put the theme files in ~/.themes and selected the theme in xfwm4-settings (I'm using xfce) but only the title bar changes to the new look, not the rest. it should look like this: http://nale12.deviantart.com/art/Silent-Night-II-144768753  i.e. the blank areas in windows should be dark and the other icons should be used23:19
retour_eucody-somerville: Back! System returned into initial state. User with unmodded screen logs in without isues on 1280@60Hz. User with modded screen to 1024@75 is dumped back to the login screen after every attempt to login23:22
cody-somervilleretour_eu, right-o23:22
cody-somervilleretour_eu, Can you try executing xrandr --output default --mode 1024x768 --rate 85 again with "unmodded" screen?23:23
retour_eucody-somerville: just did (copied and pasted) no info returned only prompt23:24
yotuxDoes anyone know if Fluendo plugin package work in xubuntu?23:26
retour_euI wonder if 915G chipset doesnt have some tricks or issues. Xorg was trying to keep 1024 resolution OK but refresh rate was indicated as 0Hz!?23:26
retour_eucody-somerville: or another idea - what about forcing system into 1024@75 instead 1280@60 if I only knew how23:28
cody-somervillerunning the following should do that: xrandr --output default --mode 1024x768 --rate 7523:28
cody-somervilleretour_eu, can you run xrandr again now that you're not in low graphics mode and pastebin the output?23:29
retour_eucody-somerville: ok23:29
retour_eucody-somerville: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/343700/23:31
cody-somervilletry this:  xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768 --rate 7523:31
retour_eucody-somerville: can be happy with 1152 too23:32
retour_eucody-somerville: WORKED!!!! U R great! now how to make it permanent?23:33
_Techie_create a script23:33
_Techie_add it to your startup using the sessions config23:34
cody-somervilleretour_eu, sudo nano /etc/gdm/Init/Default23:34
retour_euhmmm I would like to have it in xorg if possible23:34
cody-somervilleretour_eu, add the xrandr command right after OLD_IFS=$IFS23:35
retour_eucody-somerville:  should I paste the last xrandr command as the last line in /etc/gdm/Init/Default ?23:35
cody-somervillenonexks, near the top after OLD_IFS=$IFS23:36
cody-somervilleor wait23:36
retour_euyes?23:36
cody-somervilleretour_eu, put it just before initctl -q emit login-session-start DISPLAY_MANAGER=gdm23:36
retour_eucody-somerville: ok23:37
retour_eucody-somerville: done - should I reboot?23:40
cody-somervilleretour_eu, yes. If you run into trouble, drop to command line and revert your changes.23:40
retour_eucody-somerville: ok!23:41
_Techie_when he gets back ask him if 1152x864 would be better23:43
knome_Techie_, i think i'd enjoy 1141x911 the most23:43
knome;)23:43
_Techie_haha knome 1280x1024 here x223:44
_Techie_welcome back23:44
_Techie_i presume it worked since your back so quick23:44
knome_Techie_, 1920x1200 x2 onmy desktop23:45
_Techie_oooh, i wish i had the screens to go with that23:46
knomejust buy some23:46
_Techie_$$$23:46
knomehehe, yes23:46
_Techie_theres a reason im still sitting on 2x 17" CRT's23:46
retour_eucody-somerville: It works! Thank you so very much! I would never figure it out since I'm old timer familiar only with xorg. Wonder why xorg.conf wasn't able to give same effect23:46
knome_Techie_, at the moment i'm sitting on my laptop since my PSU died just over a week ago. waiting for parts for a new pc.23:47
_Techie_wow, howd that happen23:47
retour_euVery good choice Techie - there is no advantage whatsoever to flat panels excluding depth of the case. I'm waiting for OLED technology23:47
knome_Techie_, well... it just died. the small shuttle PSU's are under quite a lot pressure. it was a three year old pc altogether23:48
_Techie_oh, a shuttle PSU that explains everything23:48
knomeyep.23:49
_Techie_if your building a pc, build a real size one23:49
knome_Techie_, i have to, no shuttle barebones were available right noe.23:49
knome*now23:49
knomemight think of a replacement one later and build a gaming pc out of the shuttle23:49
_Techie_specs of the shuttle?23:50
knomewell, Shuttle SN27P2, AMD Athlon64 X2 4600+ AM2, 4GB DDR2 RAM23:51
knomeand i have a spare 19" viewsonic23:51
_Techie_*jaw drops*23:51
knomefor what? :)23:52
_Techie_most of it23:52
knomeheh23:52
knomewell, i'm going to have some better stuff in the new pc so... :P23:52
_Techie_Asus P5S800-VM motherboard23:52
_Techie_2.8ghz Celeron D CPu clocked to 3.3ghz23:53
_Techie_1.5gig DDR333 RAM23:53
_Techie_and an AGP ATI HD365023:53
_Techie_yay for second hand parts23:54
knomeAMD Phenom II x4 955, Asus AM3 785G, 8GB DDR3 RAM23:54
knome(new specs)23:55
_Techie_ooh23:55
_Techie_shiny23:55
knomegonna use the old sound card and GC in the new one23:55
knomeas well as the hard drives23:55
knomeaudigy 2 platinum ex and club 3d GF 7600GT 256MB23:55
_Techie_haha, now that i think of it i only have 2 things that were bought new for my system23:56
knomewell, you don't always need to buy everything new23:56
_Techie_my HD3650 and my 1gig stick of DDR400 thats clocked down to 33323:56
knomewhy clocked down?23:56
_Techie_coz if i dont, i cant run it alongside my 51223:57
knomeright23:57
knomethe new ram is 1600mhz :F23:57
_Techie_the 3650 was only purchased to upgrade from a 9600XT23:57
knometalk about difference !23:57
_Techie_from SM 2.0 to SM 4.123:57
_Techie_my next upgrade will probably be a dual core CPU23:59
_Techie_then a motherboard replacement with a PSU replacement at the same time23:59
_Techie_then RAM23:59
_Techie_or23:59

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