[00:00] I do so too, but I could guess xfce4-panel ;-) [00:08] guys I tried all methods and only the top panel restored. But the panel is too strange! There's no Application menu and there are new icons, and it's located in the middle, it's not stretched from the left to the right. It's just a small panel on the top! [00:09] what's wrong with xfce! This problem happened with me with all xubuntu versions! I tried xubuntu 8.04 and this happened, since then I removed xubuntu but this week I wanted to try it again. [00:09] this is too strange [00:09] Ouch, sounds like your whole configuration has been deleted :S [00:09] I would help you out but it really is time for me to get to bed now, so I hope someone else will do so... Good luck :) [00:14] anybody else please? [00:28] <_Techie_> right click the bar and configure it [00:28] <_Techie_> add a new panel [00:28] <_Techie_> put it at the bottom, set it to span the screen [00:28] <_Techie_> add the items you want [01:14] _Techie_: which bar? [01:36] Can anyone help me get prboom working? Crashes out when the demo tries to load or start a new game. [01:57] any techs available? [01:57] or tech saavy people === rr73 is now known as zz === TheSheep_ is now known as TheSheep [08:46] if Xubuntu takes 20minutes to live boot on a P3 should i burn an alternative CD then? [08:57] * bittin| is installing Xubuntu on the old Dell Latiude i got from my Aunt today =) [08:58] <_Pete_> what model exactly? [08:59] PP01X [08:59] PP01X Latitude C800 [09:11] <_Techie_> bittin|, if your only installing it doesnt matter whether you do it from the livecd or not [09:11] <_Techie_> whichever method you choose, the system will still perform the same once installed [09:14] _Techie_: it booted from the Live XD and worked perfect just the loading that took a while, but think that will go faster when it loads from the HDD and not the CD [09:14] <_Techie_> it will go much faster [09:49] will run awesome instead off XFCE tough :p [10:40] Xubuntu works fine on this hardware =) [12:29] Xubuntu 9.10. System bug!!! After changing screen resolution from default 1280 to anything else system is not able to log in - always tries and returns back to the login screen. Any known fixes? Machine: DELL Optiplex GX280 (P4 2.8GHz HT, 1GB RAM, Intel onboard video chipset) [13:04] o/ === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia [14:33] My wife's laptop suddenly stopped playing DVDs (played them just fine before). :-( [14:34] likemindead: any new updates? [14:34] No doubt. [14:35] thats on the CQ60 right? [14:36] 0__o [14:36] * likemindead looks for nwadawg over his shoulder. [14:36] Yes. [14:36] mine drive was making noise [14:37] I've tried VLC, MPlayer, Totem, Xfmedia... all to no avail. [14:37] it was real dirty [14:37] hmm [14:38] Any ideas where to start troubleshooting? [14:38] looking [14:40] make sure input is /dev/sr0 in vlc [14:40] Roger. [14:41] http://imagebin.ca/img/hV8yuL.png [14:41] That's what VLC is giving me. [14:42] And I've tried a couple of different DVDs. [14:42] hmm [14:42] you running the new vlc? [14:42] It's whatever version is in the *buntu repos. [14:43] 1.0.2 apparently. [14:43] 1.0.4 in get-deb repro [14:45] Uh... so libdvdcss2 isn't installed, but was before?! [14:45] WTF.... I installed xubuntu-restricted-extras weeks ago. [14:45] that would be it [14:52] Yep. Everything's happy now. My wife can watch the flipping Gilmore Girls... 0__o [14:54] lol [14:55] Later. ;-) [15:16] hello world, how do I set the default audio device in Xubuntu? [15:37] no one knows how I set the default audio device in Xubuntu? [15:38] PredaGR, not with xfce4-mixer? [15:39] I do open it, though it doesn't have a button saying, make default or similar, now all my audio suddenly, is routed to my second audio [15:40] PredaGR, hmm, and if you right click on the speaker icon in your panel, is there a menu item that you could use? Preferences or something? [15:41] ohh you are right, and the selected is my HDAudio, but still no sound out of it, even after reboot [15:42] Hmmm... Do you happen to have installed PulseAudio? [15:42] not pulse audio at all, I went away from Ubuntu because of PA [15:43] everyone hates it, I wonder why they keep using PA [15:43] Oh, I like it :) [15:43] (If it works :P) [15:43] you are the first to hear this from, at least read [15:44] Yeah, well, it hasn't really been used to its full potential yet, but I've installed Ear Candy, which uses PulseAudio to automatically mute my music when I e.g. play a YouTube video, then turns up the volume again when the video has finished. Which is cool :) [15:44] But ehm, then I don't know what the problem is :S [15:44] wow that is cool [15:44] ^.^ [15:45] It's not perfect yet but the idea is awesome. I wonder what else people will come up with [15:46] reminds me of a telephone I used to have, it made all radio signals go away, so RF radio and TV was going mute by them self, along with the rest of the neighbourhood [15:46] Oh nice [15:48] and I still cannot bring audio back into my speakers, jack in place, volume set, and when playing, headphones sound [15:49] and it was working just an hour ago [15:49] !sound [15:49] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [15:49] Hmm, perhaps some of those links can hel [15:49] reading in progress [15:50] one card is Intel HDA and the other is an old PCI sound blaster [15:51] using the second one to voice comm [16:10] heh intersting, rebooting did not work, but alsa force-reload did [16:10] Cool :) [16:11] thanks alot for the reading, it helped [16:34] Hi all! [16:34] !hi | RottenEgg3X [16:34] RottenEgg3X: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! Feel free to ask questions and help people out. The channel guidelines are at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines. Enjoy your stay! [16:35] thx! === zz is now known as rr72 === rr72 is now known as zz === zz is now known as rrmm === rrmm is now known as zz === zz is now known as rr72_ [17:55] is there an xdm? like kdm/gdm but w/ x? [17:56] rr72_, what about googling? [17:58] in ternet is down :-P [17:58] no it's not :P [17:58] iirc xdm isn't quite comparable like that [17:58] !info xdm [17:58] xdm (source: xdm): X display manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:1.1.8-6ubuntu1 (karmic), package size 185 kB, installed size 796 kB [18:00] how so? if it works then i will use it lolcause gdm and kdm are screwy, kdm puts me into low graphics mode while gdm runs an endless loop that stops when I only push power button then it shuts down, so I can't do much work [18:00] well, xdm is an option [18:15] am using 9.4 is it worthwhile upgrading to 9.10 or waiting for 10.4 in april next year [18:16] If you're adventurous, go ahead & upgrade to 9.10 :D [18:17] not that adventurous [18:17] seems i will wait [18:17] and upgrade nwhen the final 10.4 comes out [18:19] if it works and you don't miss anything, why to update? [18:20] umph, i want something nice and working, like xubuntu 9.04 [18:20] 9.4 works very well [18:20] there isn't anything interesting in the market currently [18:21] and no doubt the final 10.4 will work very well [18:21] so will wait [18:21] knome~ i ran gdm w/o X installed and got the information I needed :-D [18:22] i would have waited but i couldn't :( [18:22] i broke it [18:22] hmm, freebsd.. === TuxPurple_ is now known as TuxPurple [20:14] hello ... i need to know how to uninstall xubuntu and i cant get live cd to run it just boots from hd every time so i can partition it [20:17] <_Techie_> have you set it to boot from cdrom in the bios? [20:17] right boot sequence in bios menu? [20:17] <_Techie_> morning Sysi [20:17] ya ... i loaded it from live cd [20:18] i have used two diffrent cds trying to get it to boot ubuntu or xubuntu [20:18] for some reason its not giveing me the menu to boot from cd or install etc [20:18] evening _Techie_ [20:19] any ideas [20:20] umm maybe take hd out of boot sequance all to gather [20:20] non system disk [20:21] maybe my disk isnt bootable for some reason [20:22] Strange, nonexks. Did you check the disk for errors? Or run an MD5 hash? [20:23] ya i have installed from both disks on simular computers in the last few days ... but they all had windows 2K on them [20:23] what is MD% hash [20:23] MD5 [20:24] !MD5 [20:24] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows === magic_ninjai is now known as magic_ninja [20:32] ok it works fine on another computer so i am thinking its not the cd [20:33] You could also try http://partedmagic.com/ if you just want to wipe out the Xubuntu partition(s). [20:33] i am at a xubuntu desktop right now ... is it possable to do something here to install ubuntu on it [20:33] You can install the "ubuntu-desktop" package. [20:33] That'll give you GNOME, etc. [20:34] well ... umm my problam is i have been experamenting with this computer and have jacked up im sure alot of stuff on the hard drive and would like to start fresh [20:34] I am accualy likeing xubuntu more than gnome [20:36] i wish there was a start over command lol ... tell it to reset everything to (installed state) [20:36] Yeah, just download Parted Magic and use it to partition. [20:36] Then re-install Xubuntu. [20:36] No worries. We've all been there. ;-) [20:37] ya i guess im gona have to do that [20:37] guess i should quit trying to be lazy and just get it over with lol [20:38] does parted run on windows ? [20:38] It's a Live CD. [20:38] Nice & small & powerful. [20:40] cool [20:41] ok i just pluged a cd buner into xubuntu ... do i need to mount it or download drivers ? [20:42] It's an external CD-RW drive? [20:42] yes [20:43] i am still putting my network togather after a move lol .. sucks [20:43] Should just work. [20:43] Do you have Brasero installed (to burn discs)? [20:44] problaby not ... was just looking for it [20:44] ahh guess i do [20:44] ok gona have to figgure out how to mount a usb drive im thinking [20:45] Open Brasero & see if it sees your blank CD-R. [20:45] Open your file manager (Thunar) and see if it's there in the left column. [20:45] nope [20:46] showing only one cd under media .. cdrom0 ... i think the ubs one would show up as cd 1 [20:47] !usb cd [20:47] !usb [20:47] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [20:47] !mount usb [20:49] wow is there an easy way to mount a usb cdrw [20:49] gona try rebooting and see if something in grub loads it or what ever you call that thing that starts the os [20:50] is that grub [20:52] Hmm. It should just pop right up, nonexks. [20:53] found something called install release under system menu i think its gona try to install from the cd ... if so maybe i can tell it to erase the system [20:58] Hmm... not familiar with that. (I'm on a computer at work using CrunchBang Linux right now.) [21:15] umm whats CrunchBang ... sounds neet [21:18] how to force own resolution and refresh rate during installation or after installation? default in 9.10 is useless for LCD and CRTs anyway and there is a bug preventing changing it [21:20] retour_eu, The default should be the highest resolution possible. [21:22] <_Techie_> !xrandr [21:22] XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X. Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR12 [21:23] cody-somerville: how and where to change it? The cute XFCE settings manager doesnt work. I feel like I'm back in 1995 with linux and all the graphics related bugs [21:23] and xorg.conf doesn.t exist anymore [21:24] xorg.conf doesn't exist cause autodetection works so great now [21:24] lol [21:24] What graphics card do you have? [21:30] cody-somerville: I have Intel integrated 915G Express. Default setting is 1280@60Hz. For CRT 60Hz is a joke and for LCD 1280 is a joke. Changing by hand in XFCE Display manager works only once. During next boot system loops around login screen without starting the desktop [21:31] retour_eu, What version of Xubuntu are you running? [21:31] 9.10 because it suppose to be the long term support [21:33] retour_eu, no, 9.10 is not LTS [21:33] now I have 2 accounts/users. One where I dont touch anything and using it now and the other one where I'm dreaming to be able to set own res and refresh rate (lower than max and default) just 1024@85Hz [21:33] knome: well I can live with that at least it is supported until mid or late 2011 (what wiki says) [21:34] !karmic [21:34] Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910 [21:34] umsh, yes [21:54] how to configure custom res and refresh in 9.10 ? [21:55] retour_eu, Whats the default res and refresh for you? [21:57] ugh, 915G uses the Poulsbo driver doesn't it? [21:58] 1280@60Hz I need 1024@85 [21:59] or is that the 500 series? [21:59] * cody-somerville investigates. [21:59] XFCE works only once per account - 1-st time I change it works but after next log in this account is dead and not able to pass login screen [22:00] going to install DisplayConfig GTK and see if it works [22:02] retour_eu, Just to confirm, you say you're able to set it to 1024@85 via the Xfce display settings? [22:10] YES I'M! But it works ONLY 1 time - right after the change! Next reboot and this user is dead - cant pass login screen [22:10] do I need some I915 bug patch? I've heard something about it if remember well [22:10] cody-somerville: Yes! read above [22:14] <_Techie_> retour_eu, please dont use unnecessary capitalisation [22:15] <_Techie_> retour_eu, have you tried setting it with xrandr? [22:16] <_Techie_> in the past i have had systems where i left the display settings as default and changed them using a startup script and xrandr [22:17] retour_eu, I'm no X.org expert might you might try this xorg.conf file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/343688/ [22:18] _Techie_: no never used xrandr. But I'm afraid it will not cure my problem. System changes resolution to the lower one and uses it succesfully during that session. But the next time it seems is not able to initialize XFCE with new settings [22:19] cody-somerville: great thanks for all your time! Were should I put it? I've made my own xorg.conf and put it into /etc/X11 but looks like it is simply ignored [22:20] retour_eu, you have to restart X for it to take affect [22:24] I can restart whole machine. But where is best place to insert it in the xorg.conf? Now I've pasted it under my section "Screen". And I already had declarations: Section "Monitor" [22:24] Identifier "Configured Monitor" [22:24] Horizsync 50.0-160.0 [22:24] Vertrefresh 30.0-96.0 [22:24] Option "PreferredMode" "1152x864" [22:24] EndSection [22:24] !pastebin [22:24] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://ubuntu.pastebin.com | To post !screenshots use http://tinyurl.com/imagebin | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic [22:26] retour_eu, I thought you said your xorg.conf didn't exist. [22:26] retour_eu, Can you pastebin what you already have in there? [22:27] cody-somerville: I added your line so will give it a try BRB and report back with my present xorg.conf [22:41] cody-somerville: almost didnt make it - major config issues at startup [22:42] retour_eu, I tried to warn you but you left too quick [22:43] thats OK at least now I HAVE 1024 in emergency mode or so called low graphics mode so something is apparently working. It is a good path but now XFCE display config shows 0Hz refresh rate hehe [22:43] heh [22:44] cody-somerville: but what do you suggest now? delete the whole xorg.conf or pastebin it and you would kindly look at it? [22:45] retour_eu, remove what you just added to it and move it aside to xorg.conf.backup or something [22:45] retour_eu, then create a new xorg.conf with just the stuff I pasted. [22:47] cody-somerville: Oh - ok! I didn't know xorg.conf can be soooo simple. So maybe I can delete everything from the present one and leave only your lines/section? [22:47] retour_eu, thats what we're going to do but we're going to make a backup of the file first [22:48] already have it! thank you BRB [22:51] <_Techie_> *sigh* [22:51] <_Techie_> he completely disregarded my input earlier, and it probably would have worked [22:52] This is simpler then modifying boot scripts to add a call to xrandr, no? [22:55] <_Techie_> about the same [22:58] cody-somerville: Hmm same problem! Is it possible that your modeline is not accepted fully? [22:59] aye [22:59] cody-somerville: I also left section with driver data 915G etc since it was working or at least not crashing anything before [23:01] cody-somerville: so what you suggest? [23:02] retour_eu, can you pastebin the output of xrandr? [23:04] cody-somerville: err what is xrandr or exactly what command should I type in Terminal? [23:04] the command is 'xrandr' [23:04] ok [23:05] Its a primitive command line interface to the RandR extension [23:06] cody-somerville: http://paste.ubuntu.com/343695/ [23:08] retour_eu, does this work? xrandr --output default --mode 1024x768 --rate 85 [23:10] cody-somerville: jak tego uzyc? do xorga wkleic? [23:10] retour_eu, sorry? [23:10] <_Techie_> even im confused [23:11] cody-somerville: how to use it? direct terminal command or line in the xorg? [23:11] <_Techie_> commadn [23:11] <_Techie_> command* [23:11] sorry for wrong language in the wrong window [23:11] do I need to be a root? nothing happened [23:12] I'm in a low graphic/emergency mode if this may be a problem [23:13] right so you're at the lower resolution already [23:13] or it is called like it but resolution is 1024 - exactly what I want [23:14] Can you exit the low graphic/emergency mode and return to a normal session? [23:14] cody-somerville: yes xrandr listed it as my current resolution (1024 [23:16] cody-somerville: hmm don't know. I can only rename my xorg.conf to anything else or move all xorg files with extensions to a different place and reboot and see if it will work like before with 1280 as a default screen and Display Setting bug [23:16] retour_eu, just delete your current xorg.conf [23:16] Ok! Thank you for your time - BRB [23:19] I've put the theme files in ~/.themes and selected the theme in xfwm4-settings (I'm using xfce) but only the title bar changes to the new look, not the rest. it should look like this: http://nale12.deviantart.com/art/Silent-Night-II-144768753 i.e. the blank areas in windows should be dark and the other icons should be used [23:22] cody-somerville: Back! System returned into initial state. User with unmodded screen logs in without isues on 1280@60Hz. User with modded screen to 1024@75 is dumped back to the login screen after every attempt to login [23:22] retour_eu, right-o [23:23] retour_eu, Can you try executing xrandr --output default --mode 1024x768 --rate 85 again with "unmodded" screen? [23:24] cody-somerville: just did (copied and pasted) no info returned only prompt [23:26] Does anyone know if Fluendo plugin package work in xubuntu? [23:26] I wonder if 915G chipset doesnt have some tricks or issues. Xorg was trying to keep 1024 resolution OK but refresh rate was indicated as 0Hz!? [23:28] cody-somerville: or another idea - what about forcing system into 1024@75 instead 1280@60 if I only knew how [23:28] running the following should do that: xrandr --output default --mode 1024x768 --rate 75 [23:29] retour_eu, can you run xrandr again now that you're not in low graphics mode and pastebin the output? [23:29] cody-somerville: ok [23:31] cody-somerville: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/343700/ [23:31] try this: xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1024x768 --rate 75 [23:32] cody-somerville: can be happy with 1152 too [23:33] cody-somerville: WORKED!!!! U R great! now how to make it permanent? [23:33] <_Techie_> create a script [23:34] <_Techie_> add it to your startup using the sessions config [23:34] retour_eu, sudo nano /etc/gdm/Init/Default [23:34] hmmm I would like to have it in xorg if possible [23:35] retour_eu, add the xrandr command right after OLD_IFS=$IFS [23:35] cody-somerville: should I paste the last xrandr command as the last line in /etc/gdm/Init/Default ? [23:36] nonexks, near the top after OLD_IFS=$IFS [23:36] or wait [23:36] yes? [23:36] retour_eu, put it just before initctl -q emit login-session-start DISPLAY_MANAGER=gdm [23:37] cody-somerville: ok [23:40] cody-somerville: done - should I reboot? [23:40] retour_eu, yes. If you run into trouble, drop to command line and revert your changes. [23:41] cody-somerville: ok! [23:43] <_Techie_> when he gets back ask him if 1152x864 would be better [23:43] _Techie_, i think i'd enjoy 1141x911 the most [23:43] ;) [23:44] <_Techie_> haha knome 1280x1024 here x2 [23:44] <_Techie_> welcome back [23:44] <_Techie_> i presume it worked since your back so quick [23:45] _Techie_, 1920x1200 x2 onmy desktop [23:46] <_Techie_> oooh, i wish i had the screens to go with that [23:46] just buy some [23:46] <_Techie_> $$$ [23:46] hehe, yes [23:46] <_Techie_> theres a reason im still sitting on 2x 17" CRT's [23:46] cody-somerville: It works! Thank you so very much! I would never figure it out since I'm old timer familiar only with xorg. Wonder why xorg.conf wasn't able to give same effect [23:47] _Techie_, at the moment i'm sitting on my laptop since my PSU died just over a week ago. waiting for parts for a new pc. [23:47] <_Techie_> wow, howd that happen [23:47] Very good choice Techie - there is no advantage whatsoever to flat panels excluding depth of the case. I'm waiting for OLED technology [23:48] _Techie_, well... it just died. the small shuttle PSU's are under quite a lot pressure. it was a three year old pc altogether [23:48] <_Techie_> oh, a shuttle PSU that explains everything [23:49] yep. [23:49] <_Techie_> if your building a pc, build a real size one [23:49] _Techie_, i have to, no shuttle barebones were available right noe. [23:49] *now [23:49] might think of a replacement one later and build a gaming pc out of the shuttle [23:50] <_Techie_> specs of the shuttle? [23:51] well, Shuttle SN27P2, AMD Athlon64 X2 4600+ AM2, 4GB DDR2 RAM [23:51] and i have a spare 19" viewsonic [23:51] <_Techie_> *jaw drops* [23:52] for what? :) [23:52] <_Techie_> most of it [23:52] heh [23:52] well, i'm going to have some better stuff in the new pc so... :P [23:52] <_Techie_> Asus P5S800-VM motherboard [23:53] <_Techie_> 2.8ghz Celeron D CPu clocked to 3.3ghz [23:53] <_Techie_> 1.5gig DDR333 RAM [23:53] <_Techie_> and an AGP ATI HD3650 [23:54] <_Techie_> yay for second hand parts [23:54] AMD Phenom II x4 955, Asus AM3 785G, 8GB DDR3 RAM [23:55] (new specs) [23:55] <_Techie_> ooh [23:55] <_Techie_> shiny [23:55] gonna use the old sound card and GC in the new one [23:55] as well as the hard drives [23:55] audigy 2 platinum ex and club 3d GF 7600GT 256MB [23:56] <_Techie_> haha, now that i think of it i only have 2 things that were bought new for my system [23:56] well, you don't always need to buy everything new [23:56] <_Techie_> my HD3650 and my 1gig stick of DDR400 thats clocked down to 333 [23:56] why clocked down? [23:57] <_Techie_> coz if i dont, i cant run it alongside my 512 [23:57] right [23:57] the new ram is 1600mhz :F [23:57] <_Techie_> the 3650 was only purchased to upgrade from a 9600XT [23:57] talk about difference ! [23:57] <_Techie_> from SM 2.0 to SM 4.1 [23:59] <_Techie_> my next upgrade will probably be a dual core CPU [23:59] <_Techie_> then a motherboard replacement with a PSU replacement at the same time [23:59] <_Techie_> then RAM [23:59] <_Techie_> or