[00:17]  * sbeattie raises an eyebrow at that bug.
[00:28] <^robertj> hey all, I need to find a home for my webapp with django and gstreamer deps. I've used Linode in the past, but was wondering if there were any other low-cost virtualization vendors people had had ogood experiences with?
[00:33] <rbd_> hey guys. I have a few VMware servers ....looking into the ubuntu enterprise cloud product and it looks interesting. Is there a straightforward migration path to move my virtualized systems off of VMware and onto a UEC instance?
[00:33] <jtaji> ^robertj: I use Linode... I'd say go back to them
[00:33]  * ^robertj smacks the bot
[00:34] <^robertj> slicehost seems to have fairly good reviews as well
[00:34] <jtaji> ^robertj: http://journal.uggedal.com/vps-performance-comparison
[00:35] <jtaji> meh, I used them too
[00:35] <^robertj> its also really annoying because VPS bundles together virtualization + jailing
[00:35] <jtaji> Linode is much better
[00:42] <Shamoun> hey all
[00:43] <Shamoun> i am interested in running ubuntu server in a vm on a windows box running xp pro. the system is only 3 ghz and 1 gig of ram, the server won't see many users, most likely less than 2 at any given time. what kind of resource usage can i expect?
[00:44] <jtaji> Shamoun: well you have to choose how much ram to give the vm, and the rest is left to windows
[00:45] <Shamoun> jtaji, yea i was wondering more about cpu usage
[00:45] <jtaji> depends what the users are running
[00:45] <Shamoun> i gotcha
[00:46] <jtaji> not terribly much cpu overhead to it
[00:47] <Shamoun> thanks
[00:57] <nat2610> if I do a ldd foo.so, I see there is a dependency on /usr/lib/bar.so let say I take those 2 files and put them in to ~/baz/ is there a "definitive" way (so not using $LD_LIBRARY_PATH) to have foo.bar depending on ~/baz/bar.so
[01:27] <sub> whoever "borrowed" my article and put it on your blogspot (thuannvn) the least you could do is put a LINK back to the original
[02:24] <slestak> trying to find definitive list of what is included in tasksel Basic Ubuntu Server
[02:24] <slestak> i have looked at the /usr/share/tasksel/*desc file and that doesnt clear it up
[02:25] <jtaji> slestak: you can browse task contents in aptitude
[02:26] <slestak> looking at #269040, looks like i is installed anyway
[06:03] <lwizard1> hey I was wondering what type of rack mountable server cases would allow for full size standard pci cards ?
[06:03] <lwizard1> would that be a 2U or 3U ?
[06:04] <fallous_> 2U generally does PCI cards in a horizontal position
[06:05] <fallous_> not sure about 3U, but 4U is standard vertical position
[06:05] <lwizard1> ok so 2U would use the riser cards and the 3U would allow them to be inserted normally vertical?
[06:06] <lwizard1> ok
[06:06] <fallous_> no idea if 3U would
[06:06] <fallous_> 4U does
[06:06] <fallous_> I've never had to muck with 3U
[06:06] <lwizard1> and do the riser cards usually allow for 1 or 2 cards ?
[06:06] <fallous_> depends on the riser, but usually 2
[06:07] <lwizard1> reason why I need to have 2 PCI cards for a CCTV setup
[06:08] <lwizard1> fallous_, thanks for the information
[06:08] <fallous_> np
[06:47] <thermal_> hi I'm trying to test out ubuntu cloud server in virtual box, I've got it installed and I can access other servers on my network, but I'm having trouble bringing up the admin console, this is the cluster box not a node
[06:47] <thermal_> any ideas?
[06:48] <TeTeT> thermal_: you don't need the admin web UI for getting the credentials, you can use euca_conf --get-credentials <zip file> to get started
[06:49] <TeTeT> thermal_: how to get to the admin web UI depends a bit on the network setup of your virtual box environment. I'm not an expert there, but I guess if all fails you can simply install ubuntu-desktop on the front-end server and browse locally from there
[06:50] <TeTeT> thermal_: need to dash now, but will be back in 4-5 hours
[06:50] <thermal_> I'm just trying to access the admin console right now, having some issues actually talking to the virtual box instance, its assigning a 10.0.x address right now
[07:40] <KurtKraut> Uia, Twitter.com tomou deface: http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/17/twitter-reportedly-hacked-by-iranian-cyber-army/
[07:42] <thermal_> how long do the euca-describe commands normally take? I tried euca-describe-availability-zones and euca-describe-instances but both just hang
[08:38] <kees> soren: http://smcv.pseudorandom.co.uk/2009/12/gfcombinefs/
[09:16] <jiboumans> morning
[09:28] <thanks> Is it possible to "mount" multiple drives into a single folder? Currently i have 4(5 if you count the os) drives configured as /storage/1-4/, 500gb in /storage/1/ 500gb on storage/2/ ect, i want to know if i can make /storage/4/movie/ display the contents of storage/4/movie/ as well as storage/1/movie/ as a single directory. This is so i can browse it in samba and view the files it contains without needing subdirectorys/folders.
[09:31] <jiboumans> thanks, afaik, not without trickery
[09:31] <thanks> alright
[09:32] <thanks> thank you :), wasn't sure if there would be an easy way, i figured there would not be and thats why most people just mount diffrent drives to diffrent subfolders
[11:21] <jgjones> Hello
[11:22] <jgjones> I'm having issues trying to get a bridged network working with a KVM guest, would someone be able to help?
[11:27] <jiboumans> jgjones: there's a few people quite familiar with kvm on the channel, perhaps if you ask your question, they'll be able to help
[11:27] <jgjones> OK...
[11:27] <jgjones> The trouble is how to write my question but I'll try
[11:27] <jgjones> I have a server with OVH
[11:28] <jgjones> and I have a block of RIPE IP's which I want to assign to my virtual guests - this is where I'm having problems
[11:29] <jgjones> At present it would seems that I have a NAT'ed network for my guests instead of them using bridged network - I have configured the domain.xml to say bridge etc but I can't see to get my guests to work with their assigned IP - how can I resolve it?
[11:30] <jiboumans> jgjones: relevant log entries and a pastebin of your config would probably be a good first input
[11:33] <jgjones> Look like I'll have to come back at a later time, just got called out but I'll try and put as much into pastebin in preparption for next time I'm back in here
[11:48] <nucking> hey everyone, i'm having a bit of a problem with my little ubuntu-server
[11:49] <nucking> i'm trying to use it as my server, and i was able to connect it with the internet on one nic and with my home network on the other
[11:49] <nucking> erm, i'm trying to use it as my router
[11:49] <nucking> :P
[11:51] <nucking> my first problem is that i have to sudo /etc/init.d/networking reset each time i want it to connect to the internet
[11:51] <nucking> it does not automatically do that, and i also need to unplug my modem for it to work
[11:51] <nucking> does anybody have a clue what might be causing that?
[11:53] <acalvo> hi all
[11:53] <nucking> the external interface fetches the configuration from the dhcp of my isp automatically btw
[11:54] <nucking> hi acalvo
[11:54] <acalvo> I'm trying to set up a dns server, and most of the things are working ok. However, if I run host <ip> it does not resolve to the name of the host
[11:54] <acalvo> however, host <hostname> works
[11:55] <arj> use dig
[11:55] <arj> to begin with
[11:58] <nucking> could it be that installing a dhcp server on my machine interferes with the dhcp of my isp? which leads to my server no longer connecting properly to the "outer" dhcp?
[12:06] <acalvo> nucking: does not seems reasonable
[12:06] <nuckable> i know :P
[12:07] <nuckable> it's just weird, cause when i first set up the external interface everything worked fine
[12:07] <nuckable> but from the moment i installed dhcp and tried acting as dhcp for my internal network it started going bogus
[12:08] <nuckable> but i'm not really sure if thats because of my internal dhcp server
[12:09] <acalvo> try to disable it
[12:10] <acalvo> and do some digs, pings, and hosts
[12:10] <acalvo> to see if you can reach the internal lan and the external
[12:10] <acalvo> put a static ip in some host in your local lan
[12:10] <acalvo> and then start working with your dhcp
[12:10] <acalvo> AFAIK, a dhcp server only works under the same lan domain
[12:10] <nuckable> well i was able to set up both internal and external network
[12:11] <acalvo> because it works at the network layer 2
[12:11] <nuckable> the problem is that the machine does not fetch the information of the external dhcp on boot
[12:11] <nuckable> and i have to reboot my modem each time i wanna connect it to the internet
[12:13] <nuckable> i have to manually restart the modem and restart the networking...
[12:14] <acalvo> what's your network topology?
[12:14] <nuckable> well right now im connected directly to the modem
[12:14] <nuckable> but i'd like to have my little server act as router (connected directly to the modem)
[12:31] <nuckish> bbl
[12:35] <sgronblo> tried setting up apache to accept ssl connections but im getting a "Error code: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long"
[12:36] <arj> that usually means you try to talk https to a port that only speaks http
[12:37] <sgronblo> is there a way to find out which part is incorrectly configured
[12:38] <sgronblo> i copied default-ssl and a2ensited it and changed only the key and cert locations and added an alias directive to it
[12:40] <sgronblo> i remember being on a page with a long list of troubleshooting advice the other day but i cant remember where it was
[13:07] <sgronblo> another weird thing, if i access http://localhost i get the itworks page but not if i go through http://127.0.0.1 even though localhost is defined as 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts
[13:08] <sgronblo> shouldnt virtualhost *:80 apply to both requests?
[13:16] <zul> morning
[13:41] <sommer> yo
[13:45] <sgronblo> well it seemed that my <virtualhost test> was messing things up when i didnt explicitly specify port 80 for it
[13:46] <sgronblo> i thought since i specified 80 for namedvirtualhost it would have been implied for the virtualhost directives with a name as parameter
[14:55] <jgjones> hello, back now.
[14:55] <jgjones> I'm having issues trying to get a bridged network working with a KVM guest, would someone be able to help?
[14:55] <jgjones> First of all I'll put up my pastebins: - http://pastebin.com/md91181d - /etc/network/interfaces for my host server
[14:56] <jgjones> http://pastebin.com/m15a75da2 - default.xml (for the virtual network)
[14:56] <jgjones> http://pastebin.com/m1b7a9ca7 - domain.xml (for the KVM guest - which is running Karmic server) and the host is also Karmic 64 bit server
[14:57] <jgjones> I have a block of RIPE IP's that I need to assign to KVM guests, but I seem unable to do this and can't figure out where I'm going wrong.
[15:00] <jiboumans> kikrland: around?
[15:00] <jiboumans> kirkland also
[15:02] <jgjones> jiboumans, maybe not - this shown up in #ubuntu-virt recently: * kirkland has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out))
[15:03] <jiboumans> kirkland` exists though :)
[15:51] <ttx> jiboumans: he is technically in vacation now
[15:52] <zul> geez...slackers
[15:55] <zul> ttx/jiboumans: People might find this script useful http://people.canonical.com/~chucks/server_version.py it compares what we have in the archvie and compare it to debian testing
[15:56] <zul> jiboumans: you might not like it because its not done in perl ;)
[16:07] <Stormyy> Hey
[16:07] <Stormyy> Anyone know how to save a Ubuntu EC2 instance?
[16:07] <sub> just make a quick rewrite rule or symlink server_version.pl to server_version.py and he'll never know
[16:07] <Stormyy> I've started a new instance and got it setup how I like it I ust need to know how to save it.
[16:08] <Italian_Plumber1> how do I upgrade directly from hardy to lucid?
[16:10] <zoopster> Stormyy: you just need to rebundle it...plenty of tutorials out there on the steps
[16:10] <Stormyy> Can I not save it all on a volume?
[16:10] <Stormyy> So I start an instance based on the volume?
[16:12] <zoopster> you could snapshot it, sure
[16:13] <Stormyy> Ok how do I do that?
[16:13] <Stormyy> Basically I want to be able to terminate the instance and start it back up
[16:13] <Stormyy> at a later date
[16:13] <Stormyy> and get everything from when I ended it
[16:18] <erichammond> Stormyy: Here's one tutorial on rebundling EC2 instances (mine): http://alestic.com/2009/06/ec2-ami-bundle
[16:20] <erichammond> Stormyy: An alternative recently introduced by Amazon is EBS boot AMIs which keep your root disk on an EBS volume.  You can stop and restart your instance without paying to have it running all the time.
[16:22] <Stormyy> yeh do you have a AMI code for a EBS one?
[16:52] <mdz> kirkland`: eucalyptus 1.6.2~ should hit the archive today, see #-meeting
[16:58] <ttx> kees: many thanks for the fast processing
[16:58] <ttx> man, I hate those so-called testsuites
[16:59] <kees> ttx: you're welcome.  thanks for getting those suites running.  :P
[16:59] <ttx> kees :P
[17:16] <pmatulis> kirkland`: so ltsp + iscsi ain't working out so well
[17:17] <pmatulis> kirkland`: + ecryptfs i should add
[17:20] <erichammond> Stormyy (gone): Neither smoser nor I have gotten around to publishing EBS boot AMIs for Ubuntu just yet.  I don't know who's going to get to it first :)
[17:21] <erichammond> bug 492048 is my request for official ones
[17:22]  * erichammond heads off to the office to debug VOIP over dual-WAN router problems in a new network installation.
[17:36] <Sorell> does anyone have any information on setting up a nameserver?
[17:43] <Italian_Plumber1> heh... I was just going to ask a quesiton about DNS
[17:44] <Sorell> :)
[17:45] <sub> Mostly depends on if you're looking for a recursive DNS server (also known as a resolving, forwarding, or caching server) or an authoratative nameserver (to host your domain.com, for example)
[17:45] <Sorell> I want to host my web site
[17:46] <sub> OK
[17:46] <Sorell> I was told by the group that registered the domain that I need a nameserver
[17:46] <sub> Then the software you most likely want to look into is called 'bind', sometimes referred to as 'named'
[17:46] <sub> Maybe even djbdns
[17:47] <sub> The learning curve on DNS is kind of steep IMHO, if you can get away with it I'd look into hosted DNS
[17:47] <sub> Some registrars offer that as a free service
[17:48] <sub> Otherwise you can check out the Ubuntu server guide for the version fo Ubuntu you are running, for example https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/dns-configuration.html
[17:48] <ScottK> Sorell: Running a DNS server is not a trivial thing to take on.  My recommendation is let a DNS expert do that.  If your registrar doesn't provide DNS services, there are plenty of people that do.
[17:48] <Sorell> I'm really doing this whole thing to learn so I don't mind a steep curve ( got all Christmas break :) )
[17:48] <sub> heh, +1 agree
[17:51] <sub> I'd stick with the ubuntu server guide for the initial setup, but also read into how DNS works as a whole, paying careful attention to things like absolute names and the start of authority and serial
[17:53] <sub> but do realize that if your DNS host goes down so does access to any services being hosted under that domain (your website, for example)
[17:53] <Sorell> sub: yes I understand that
[17:55] <sub> OK
[17:55] <sub> Then I have given all the advice I can give you until you have more specific questions :-)
[17:56] <Sorell> thankyou for your help so far I'm starting to read about bind right now and will be looking at the setup guide soon. If there is anything else you believe I should know I always apperciate advice
[18:03] <nucking> hey there, i was able to fix my problem from earlier where my isps dhcp would not be fetched on boot, had to assign static values for the interface
[18:03] <nucking> but now im struggling with routing the internet connection from eth0 to the eth1 interface
[18:07] <nucking> which place should/could i check to see why it doesn't work?#
[18:17] <Italian_Plumber1> recursive vs. authoritative ... which is the more complicated?  authoritative, i assume
[18:18] <sub> yes
[18:19] <Italian_Plumber1> because I run a DNS server at home and at work.... neither are "public"... both exist so taht I can use DNS names to resolve to local IPs... making accessing boxes inside my LAN easier.
[18:19] <Italian_Plumber1> all other requests they send to our ISP DNS servers.
[18:20] <sub> so you are running both on the same instance of bind
[18:21] <sub> both authoratative and recursive
[18:21] <Italian_Plumber1> yes, but authoritative only for the "local" addresses.
[18:21] <Italian_Plumber1> is that bad?
[18:21] <sub> no, that's a pretty common setup
[18:22] <nucking> http://www.gametrailers.com/video/review-final-fantasy/60121
[18:22] <nucking> whoops
[18:22] <nucking> lol
[18:23] <Italian_Plumber1> we have corp.domain.com as our "local" addresses.  So anyone requesting name.corp.domain.com from inside our network will resolve to a local IP.
[18:31] <Italian_Plumber1> This is my setup: /http://pastebin.com/maa2a273
[18:31] <Italian_Plumber1> http://pastebin.com/maa2a273
[19:18] <ruben23> hi how do i chnage the resolution of my screen on ubuntu-server
[19:19] <Italian_Plumber1> text-only?
[19:19] <Italian_Plumber1> I did that once... but I don't remember how
[19:28] <Italian_Plumber1> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=352663
[19:47] <Storm3yy> Hey
[19:47] <Storm3yy> Anyone know where I can find a EBS Ubuntu image for EC2?
[20:20] <x-m4-x> Hello im back................
[20:20] <Storm3yy> HEy
[20:21] <Storm3yy> Is anyone using the EBS on EC2?
[20:27] <teddymills> what is with the UUIDs that Ubuntu boots from? Does this not cause problems?
[20:28] <ScottK> No, this solves problems.
[20:29] <ScottK> It's the only way to make sure the BIOS doesn't re-arrange devices underneath the OS after a reboot.
[20:29] <x-m4-x> My new installation wont resolve anything
[20:37] <Storm3yy> Anyone know how to make my account into an admin account?
[20:46] <guntbert> !root | Storm3yy
[20:48] <guntbert> Storm3yy: if you *really* *need* a root shell you can get it with sudo -s (but I almost never need it)
[20:48] <Storm3yy> ok
[20:48] <Storm3yy> I have a app running and I want to close putty
[20:48] <Storm3yy> but will it exit?
[20:48] <Storm3yy> I want it to stay open
[20:49] <guntbert> Storm3yy: no, it will close if you didn't invoke it with nohup or under screen
[20:50] <Storm3yy> How do I do that?
[20:58] <Storm3yy> guntbert - you there?
[20:59] <teddymills> Sudo is the root password the matrix wants you to believe in. Do not let the matrix fool you Neo. Root password is one you need when the sudo fails.
[21:00] <Storm3yy> No
[21:00] <Storm3yy> How doI keep stuff running when I close the window?
[21:05] <pting> what's the best way to store a lot of log website files... i'm about to setup individual directories like so /var/log/nginx/mysite.com/ ... can anyone else suggest a better approach?
[21:06] <guntbert> Storm3yy: I'm back - you can either run your command  with nohup <command> & - or you install screen (and read man screen afterwards) - I prefer screen
[21:09] <Storm3yy> Can you help me setup?
[21:11] <guntbert> Storm3yy: you have to install screen
[21:14] <Storm3yy> ok iI think screens installed
[21:15] <Storm3yy> when I type 'screen'
[21:15] <Storm3yy> it gives me an into
[21:18] <guntbert> Storm3yy: good (please do read man screen), I can give you only a short one : after the intro start some app (top...) , then type <ctrl>AD to "detach" screen from the terminal, then close the ssh session
[21:19] <guntbert> Storm3yy: now reopen a ssh session and type screen -r     -   voila
[21:38] <Storm3yy> I'm pressing ctrl+ad
[21:38] <Storm3yy> but it dosnt work
[21:41] <guntbert> Storm3yy: how does it not work?
[21:41] <Storm3yy> Nothing is comming up
[21:41] <Storm3yy> when I press ctrl and A
[21:43] <guntbert> Storm3yy: of course not, thats the key combo for screen to know it should intercept the next key, so please press ctrl+a, then release both and press d
[21:45] <Storm3yy> hmm now the process closed
[21:45] <Storm3yy> ok
[21:46] <Storm3yy> Ok no it never
[21:46] <guntbert> Storm3yy: now proceed as I said before
[21:46] <Storm3yy> ok how do i load it back up?
[21:47] <guntbert> Storm3yy: please read back ^^^^^^
[21:47] <Storm3yy> yeh you didnt say how to restore the window
[21:48] <guntbert> Storm3yy: now reopen a ssh session and type screen -r
[21:50] <Storm3yy> hmm
[21:50] <Storm3yy> yay done :D
[21:50] <Storm3yy> ty
[21:51] <guntbert> Storm3yy: all well?
[21:51] <Storm3yy> Yep tnx
[21:54] <guntbert> Storm3yy: nice :-)
[22:19] <pting> i don't suppose logrotate config files support /var/logs/mylogs/**/*.log {...} ?
[22:20] <pting> for recursing into directories
[22:30] <dragon> how do I ensure that a service always runs at system startup?
[22:30] <dragon> For example, I have this karmic server with apache. I never turned the service off or anything, but I have to run it manually after every reboot.
[22:31] <dragon> I have another karmic server for reference, which functions as expected.
[22:32] <dragon> There's no /etc/init/apache.conf on either box.
[22:33] <dragon> it's apparently a bug - ping me and i'll provide the necessary details
[22:36] <intel352> hey all, i just upgraded my rackspace-cloud Ubuntu 9.04 server to 9.10, but i'm getting a mountall error at boot
[22:36] <intel352> i don't appear to have a menu.lst (suggested in a bugfix thread)
[22:36] <intel352> should menu.lst exist, or is something else being done on the cloud?
[22:40] <dragon> intel352: menu.lst was a part of the old grub system. The new grub2 bootloader doesn't need that.
[22:40] <dragon> I'd think grub has nothing to do with grub
[22:42] <intel352> grub has nothing to do with grub?
[22:45] <dragon> I'd think mountall has nothing to do with grub
[22:45] <intel352> getting this error if i run mountall --debug
[22:45] <intel352> mountall:/proc: unable to mount: Device or resource busy
[22:45] <dragon> intel352: "This is a temporary tool until init(8) itself gains the necessary flexibility to perform this processing;  you should not rely on its behaviour."
[22:46] <dragon> from `man mountall`
[22:46] <intel352> i'm not necessarily trying to rely on it
[22:46] <dragon> I believe it wouldn't help running it from a terminal manually. What's the error that you get at boot time?
[22:47] <intel352> just trying to get my server to boot up
[22:47] <intel352> the proc error that you saw, same error
[22:47] <intel352> also says proc/self/mountinfo doesn't exist
[22:48] <dragon> intel352: I see some output when I run `cat /proc/self/mountinfo` from a terminal. Could you try it out?
[22:49] <intel352> no such file or directory
[22:50] <dragon> intel352: what problems is this error causing?
[22:50] <intel352> causes booting to fail, unable to mount root filesystem, tosses me into an emergency shell
[22:51] <dragon> intel352: damn. Try `mount -a`
[22:51] <intel352> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8156697 << looks like similar error here (
[22:51] <intel352> k, trying
[22:53] <dragon> intel352: do you see the sreadahead error as well?
[22:53] <intel352> I just restarted to see, 1s
[22:53] <dragon> It's a chain of errors in that case. It'd help to attack the first error first.
[22:53] <intel352> init: ureadahead main process (2167) terminated with status 5
[22:54] <dragon> Apparently it's the grub thing not pointing to the correct kernel
[22:55] <dragon> So yes, a grub problem.
[22:55] <intel352> if there is no grub cnf in /boot, i assume that's a problem? :-)
[22:55] <intel352> dunno how that would have disappeared either, assuming it was there to begin with
[22:56] <dragon> intel352: It does see at least one linux kernel, that's why you're getting this far.
[22:57] <intel352> uname shows i'm running 2.6.24-24-xen, same as prior to upgrade. /boot/ lists 2.6.31-16-generic
[23:03] <dragon> I believe you can't get to /boot/
[23:03] <dragon> since you are unable to mount the filesystem
[23:03] <dragon> intel352: ^
[23:04] <intel352> I'm able to read and access /boot
[23:04] <intel352> and files on the filesystem
[23:04] <intel352> unless that's what the emergency shell is able to load?
[23:05] <intel352> i'm researching xen, looks like it boots up differently anyhow
[23:05] <intel352> explains why i have no grub conf
[23:06] <dragon> intel352: could you pastebin `df`
[23:09] <intel352> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d230c97fc
[23:11] <intel352> :-\  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1354154
[23:12] <dragon> intel352: please consider using prefix for catching attention
[23:13] <dragon> intel352: so /dev/sda1 is mounted normally - you should be able to reconfigure grub in /boot/ somehow
[23:13] <intel352> per that thread though, I need a xen specific kernel
[23:13] <intel352> which I don't have
[23:13] <mike3> I have a messed up kernel and grub setup. I need to reinstall a kernel and the grub config
[23:13] <mike3> can somebody please please help me
[23:13] <intel352> and emergency shell doesn't appear to provide net (or may be manual)
[23:14] <dragon> mike3: how far is your machine booting?
[23:15] <mike3> Won't get past grub
[23:15] <mike3> i'm currently in teh rescue section of the live cd
[23:15] <mike3> not sure what to do
[23:15] <dragon> intel352: do you see multiple kernel entries in grub menu?
[23:16] <dragon> mike3: how did you mess it up?
[23:16] <mike3> i had a problem updating via apt-get install linux-server .. Dpkg --configure woouldn't work. So i moved everything in my /boot except /boot/grub and redid the update portion and well now i cant boot
[23:17] <mike3> i tried to copy all my contents back from /boot but i'm getting an error 13
[23:17] <mike3> so i'm confused now
[23:17] <mike3> so basically, if i can install a kernel from scratch in the rescue cd that should do it
[23:17] <mike3> i'm assuming it will fix my grub as well
[23:18] <dragon> mike3: I think you might be better off reinstalling the whole thing. Did you have data there? and settings?
[23:19] <mike3> i have a ton of information
[23:19] <mike3> i can't loose this.
[23:19] <mike3> I just need to install a kernel
[23:19] <mike3> how can i do this
[23:19] <mike3> ?
[23:20] <dragon> mike3: if you're unable
[23:20] <dragon> ... to boot, I don't know if it'll get far enough.
[23:20] <intel352> dragon: I'm not seeing a grub menu. this is a remote cloud-hosted server, java console doesn't show the menu
[23:20] <mike3> dragon, I'm in the resuce cd
[23:21] <X-Sleepy-X> mike3: You could save the information by booting up a live cd on the server
[23:21] <X-Sleepy-X> nm
[23:21] <mike3> X-Sleepy-X, i don't want to reinstall everything.. Why should i have to do that
[23:22] <mike3> There should be a way of installing a kernel from apt-get no????
[23:22] <dragon> intel352: see if this helps. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2
[23:22] <dragon> intel352: there's a section to reconfigure it. If that doesn't help at all, there's another one to revert to legacy grub.
[23:22] <dragon> mike3: not if you cannot boot to the OS at all.
[23:22] <intel352> dragon: thx
[23:23] <mike3> dragon, you can in gentoo
[23:24] <intel352> mike3: gentoo is a different beast :-)
[23:24] <mike3> how can I remove a package and all it's dependencies
[23:24] <mike3> and configuration scripts
[23:24] <mike3> everything
[23:24] <dragon> mike3: I'm not sure why you were installing linux-server in first place. You should have went for ubuntu-server package instead.
[23:25] <dragon> mike3: dpkg --purge <package>
[23:25] <intel352> dragon: I'm in luck, rackspacecloud has a Rescue Mode for the server, I'm enabling that now
[23:25] <dragon> intel352: cool, good luck
[23:26] <mike3> urgh...
[23:29] <dragon> Is there a way to set the order in which services are invoked at startup? My apache tries to start before tomcat and hence dies.
[23:29] <mike3> forget this.
[23:29] <mike3> i'll reinstall ubuntu
[23:29] <mike3> do I have to format the drive?
[23:29] <mike3> ???
[23:29] <mike3> can i just do an upgrade with the disk?
[23:30] <dragon> mike3: you should backup your data elsewhere before reinstalling ubuntu.
[23:31] <mike3> can i upgrade?
[23:32] <mike3> with the newest versio from disk
[23:32] <mike3> this way it corrects things but also leaves everything installed intact
[23:32] <mike3> ?
[23:32] <dragon> mike3: it doesn't work that way.
[23:32] <mike3> why
[23:34] <dragon> mike3: your system needs to be in a running condition when you upgrade. You cannot have a car accident, remove the starter mechanism and then ask the mechanic to upgrade the engine so it starts running again.
[23:59] <masshuu> i want to do somthing simular to the towel.blinkenlights.nl, were i assume the connection is run to an application instead of a login prompt then a bash window, ive partally gotten there so when i log into a certian user, it goes straight to the app, but i was looking to un somthing like a second sshd on another port and have all incoming connections ruin the app