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| mandel | hello, cann anyone tell me why I'm getting a 500 when I try to view contact data in ubuntuone? | 14:14 |
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| rtgz | mandel, hm, looks fine for my contacts. Any additional messages? | 14:18 |
| mandel | nah, just a 500 | 14:18 |
| mandel | but I'm testing my application on desktopcouch and I'm using the new attachment code added my Chad, I was wondering if that makes any diff | 14:19 |
| mandel | is there anyone that can look at the logs looking at my user? I;m wondering if is the avatar added by my app as an attachment 'cause evo and my code have no problem | 14:20 |
| mandel | I forgot to mention that the source of the docs in couchdb is my app | 14:21 |
| dobey | well i'm sure there's an OOPS id :) | 14:21 |
| urbanape | Morning, all | 14:25 |
| * rtgz looks at his watch - 16:27... | 14:27 | |
| mandel | dobey, anyway to get it? | 14:27 |
| urbanape | (modulo localtime) | 14:28 |
| dobey | mandel: it should have been printed on the error page. | 14:29 |
| dobey | but it's working here ok too... | 14:29 |
| * aquarius checks too | 14:29 | |
| mandel | really? 'cause I see the nice robot like cartoon but nothing else... | 14:29 |
| mandel | I'm wondering if it has to do with the format of my doc... | 14:30 |
| dobey | mandel: yes. but maybe the robot image thing broke that.. jblount ^ | 14:30 |
| rtgz | is there any kind of test error page, when you get there it just manually crashes giving you the overview how the error message will be displayed? something like /oh-noes/ ... | 14:32 |
| rtgz | he he bug #498194 | 14:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 498194 in ubuntuone-client "Syncronization marks are incorrect" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/498194 | 14:34 |
| aquarius | mandel, interesting. I wonder if your contact records have changed and the web UI can't cope with that? That would be bad, if so. (Contacts web UI works for me too, btw) | 14:35 |
| mandel | the contacts that I create through the web ui work perfectly | 14:36 |
| * rtgz has a virtual machine for u1 tests, need new virtual lp account for a virtual u1 server :) | 14:36 | |
| rtgz | mandel, is it only one account that causes this? | 14:36 |
| rtgz | mandel, sorry, one contact entry | 14:36 |
| mandel | the ones generated by my client are listed, but If I try to access the data, they brake | 14:36 |
| rtgz | mandel, i guess the server side devs might be interested in the record itself :) | 14:37 |
| mandel | rtgz, all the one generated from my side, Ill post one doc example, give me a sec | 14:37 |
| mandel | this is what I've got in my desktopcouch: http://pastebin.com/m4aab8848 | 14:38 |
| mandel | only diff I can thing is that my collections do not have an _order, could that be it? | 14:39 |
| mandel | and I did not added it because it was not in the spec | 14:39 |
| * rtgz is waiting for replication to break his contact list as well... | 14:40 | |
| rtgz | this is how contact sharing is implemented ATM :) | 14:41 |
| thisfred | mandel: which url are you getting the errors on? | 14:42 |
| mandel | thisfred, this is one of them: https://one.ubuntu.com/contacts/1019e2b361cd4217a9bdb25cdd736878/details/ | 14:43 |
| mandel | but I can replicate the error with any contact that was made in my side | 14:43 |
| mandel | I can give you one that has no problems with my account, wanna it? | 14:44 |
| thisfred | mandel: I can not see your contacts so, that's ok, I was just looking for the shape of the url | 14:46 |
| mandel | thisfred, is just test data, so no problem... | 14:47 |
| aquarius | bah, make start keeps dying | 14:51 |
| aquarius | which makes it hard to run up a test version of the contacts web UI to put mandel's contact in :) | 14:51 |
| rtgz | yup | 14:51 |
| rtgz | Something has gone wrong (500) | 14:51 |
| mandel | rtgz, you reproduced the error? | 14:52 |
| * aquarius updates the sourcedeps. Again. | 14:52 | |
| rtgz | mandel, yup | 14:52 |
| aquarius | le sigh | 14:52 |
| mandel | so, what could it be, 'cause I think there is nothing diff in the doc | 14:52 |
| rtgz | and edge server dies in the same way, no extra info to report.. :( | 14:53 |
| thisfred | mandel, what is your user id, so that we can grep through the logs for that? | 14:53 |
| mandel | mandel@themacaque.com | 14:54 |
| mandel | or mandel, is the email or the username? | 14:54 |
| thisfred | mandel: I mean the numerical id you'll find in the couchdb urls | 14:54 |
| thisfred | oh, webm0nk3y found it I think | 14:55 |
| mandel | you mean the id of the contact? | 14:56 |
| mandel | that would be this: 1019e2b361cd4217a9bdb25cdd736878 | 14:56 |
| rtgz | mandel, i guess this is where replication goes to should be part of the URL, there is some kind of ID as well... | 14:57 |
| thisfred | mandel: rtgz yeah, the replication url is something like u/foo/bar/xxx/contacts, xxx would be your user id. But as I said, we've found it. No errors logged | 14:58 |
| mandel | rtgz, thisfred, ok | 14:59 |
| thisfred | so the error is not in couchdb, or in the python layer around it, it seems. The web ui itself maybe doesn't know how to deal with the attachment, although I find it strange that it would even notice it;s therte | 14:59 |
| thisfred | there | 14:59 |
| Chipaca | desktop+ meeting begins. aquarius, chad, dobey, jblount, mandel, rodrigo, rtgz, teknico, urbanape, vds: you know how it works: say "me" to get a turn, then in your turn say your done/todo/blocked status. | 15:00 |
| mandel | thisfred, the error happens with a simple doc with no attachment | 15:00 |
| CardinalFang | me | 15:00 |
| thisfred | aquarius: I'll try locally | 15:00 |
| rtgz | me | 15:00 |
| jblount | me | 15:00 |
| * Chipaca notes rodrigo and teknico are on holiday and thus won't me | 15:01 | |
| mandel | me | 15:01 |
| Chipaca | aquarius: dobey: urbanape: vds: PING | 15:02 |
| vds | me | 15:03 |
| dobey | me | 15:04 |
| Chipaca | aquarius aquarius aquarius | 15:04 |
| Chipaca | urbanape urbanape urbanape | 15:04 |
| Chipaca | CardinalFang: go | 15:05 |
| CardinalFang | DONE: Sorted distro d-c bugs. Some progress on releasing desktopcouch stable update. Re-tagged d-c on releases, as the source-package bzr tools require tags. | 15:05 |
| CardinalFang | TODO: file a bug on tarmac about discarding tags. Finish releasing d-c. Pester james_w a lot. | 15:05 |
| CardinalFang | BLOCKED: Understanding. | 15:05 |
| CardinalFang | rtgz, give me the low-down! | 15:05 |
| rtgz | DONE: Marshallers and file emblems fixed (waiting for merge), diagnosed nautilus crash with Share on Ubuntu One dialog. | 15:05 |
| rtgz | TODO: Update ubuntuone-client-diagnose with the latest bug info. Check what can be done with folder emblems (got some ideas) - bug #440848. Dig into nautilus to find out why our routine is called twice. Ping dobey regarding bug #498136. | 15:05 |
| rtgz | BLOCK: none | 15:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 440848 in ubuntuone-client "UbuntuOne sync status emblems should apply to folders as well as files" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/440848 | 15:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 498136 in ubuntuone-client "All "Shared With Me" folder items have emblems broken" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/498136 | 15:05 |
| rtgz | jblount, *whatever I should say* | 15:05 |
| jblount | DONE: Took last random holiday off | 15:06 |
| jblount | TODO: Make forum icon overlay thing, Work on layout issues for /plans and /support/account-assistance | 15:06 |
| jblount | BLCOKED: Nope | 15:06 |
| jblount | mandel: you! | 15:06 |
| mandel | DONE: Played with tags and group implementation in my app | 15:07 |
| mandel | TODO: Update UI in macaco-contact to refect changes | 15:07 |
| mandel | BLOCK: NONE | 15:07 |
| mandel | vds, go | 15:07 |
| vds | DONE: more testing sync with mobile phones, finally got a new sim card for the testing handset, started a branch to fix problem noticed testing with handset, code review | 15:07 |
| vds | TODO: more testing with mobile devices, setup funambol to send sms | 15:07 |
| vds | BLOCKED: no | 15:07 |
| vds | dobey: vai! | 15:07 |
| dobey | ☺ DONE: More initial new client work | 15:07 |
| dobey | ☹ TODO: Reviews, New Client Code, E-mail motu-council | 15:07 |
| dobey | ☹ BLCK: None. | 15:07 |
| dobey | aquarius, urbanape: fight! | 15:08 |
| urbanape | me | 15:08 |
| urbanape | woops | 15:08 |
| thisfred | mandel: when did you first notice the 500 error? | 15:08 |
| urbanape | DONE: Made some progress on manifest branch, ubuntuone-servers branch finally passed PQM, review of next branch should be easier | 15:08 |
| Chipaca | urbanape: go | 15:08 |
| thisfred | (our logs may be up to an hour out of date) | 15:08 |
| urbanape | TODO: Get other branch reviewed/submitted, keep moving on manifest branch | 15:09 |
| urbanape | BLOCK: None | 15:09 |
| mandel | thisfred, yesterday, during the night, but that is because I've never looked before | 15:09 |
| urbanape | aquarius: you're up, I guess | 15:09 |
| thisfred | mandel: ah ok, so we should have some in the logs then | 15:09 |
| mandel | thisfred, yes, and it is quite easy to reproduce, any contact I do in my side will break | 15:10 |
| thisfred | mandel: I'm going to try to reproduce this on my machine, if I can set the web ui and server all up correctly | 15:10 |
| Chipaca | desktop+ EOM. CardinalFang, dobey, jblount, mandel, rtgz, urbanape, vds: thanks! | 15:10 |
| Chipaca | CardinalFang: are you really blocked by (presumably your) understanding? is there anything we can do to unblock you? | 15:11 |
| mandel | thisfred, do you need any testing data? I can send you a bunch of different docs | 15:12 |
| thisfred | mandel: the one you pastebinned above fails yes? I'll try that one first | 15:13 |
| thisfred | thanks for helping us track this down! | 15:14 |
| mandel | thisfred, yes that one fails also rtgz got the same error. | 15:14 |
| urbanape | taking an early lunch to run some errands. BBL. | 15:15 |
| CardinalFang | Chipaca, I may not be blocked. I'm just bellayaching about how releasing is supposed to be easier and it isn't so far. | 15:15 |
| mandel | thisfred, I hope I could help more, but from the client side there i no much I can do :P | 15:15 |
| Chipaca | CardinalFang: apt-get install digestive-salts? | 15:15 |
| CardinalFang | It Depends on ubuntu-patience, which isn't available. | 15:16 |
| dobey | grr, lp apparently does funky stuff with diffs now | 15:17 |
| rtgz | wrote "invalidate extension date". Yeah, extension does not want to date again :/ | 15:20 |
| dobey | verterok: is get_metadata going to start sending full paths? | 15:31 |
| verterok | dobey: fullpaths? | 15:31 |
| dobey | verterok: it looks like get_metadata currently has only "foo/blah" as the "path" in the dict. i think that will be problematic with the user defined folders, no? | 15:32 |
| verterok | dobey: get_metadata returns the metadata of a full path | 15:32 |
| verterok | dobey: no, because the info also contains the share_id (probably will be renamed to volume_id) | 15:33 |
| dobey | verterok: but that's not the local path of the folder is it? | 15:34 |
| verterok | dobey: yes, it is :) | 15:34 |
| verterok | dobey: but we can add a more fine grained methods for whatever metadata you guys need ;) | 15:34 |
| dobey | oh, it's not a hash id? | 15:34 |
| verterok | dobey: hash_id? | 15:34 |
| dobey | verterok: share_id | 15:35 |
| dobey | verterok: it's a path, and not a hash? | 15:35 |
| verterok | dobey: it's a uuid | 15:35 |
| dobey | or a uuid | 15:35 |
| dobey | i need the path | 15:35 |
| verterok | dobey: but you already have the path... it's the argument passed to get_metadata..right? | 15:36 |
| dobey | verterok: yes and no. we have the path when we make the call, but not when we finish it | 15:36 |
| dobey | verterok: async APIs are hell :) | 15:36 |
| verterok | dobey: don't know about that, I use twisted ;) | 15:37 |
| dobey | twisted doesn't do dbus :) | 15:37 |
| verterok | dobey: it does ;) | 15:37 |
| dobey | but yes, it's easier to deal with in a dynamic language like python | 15:37 |
| verterok | dobey: so, you need the fullpath in get_metadata? for what are going to use get_metadata output? | 15:38 |
| verterok | dobey: maybe we can add a new and optimized method...get_metadata is quite generic | 15:38 |
| dobey | verterok: we're calling get_metadata to determine what files need updating | 15:38 |
| verterok | dobey: so, we'r doing a get_metadata call for each path? | 15:39 |
| dobey | verterok: for every file under Ubuntu One, that gets displayed in an open nautilus window, yes | 15:40 |
| verterok | ouch? :) | 15:40 |
| Chipaca | sounds like that should be a single call | 15:40 |
| verterok | Chipaca: I was thinking on the same thing :) | 15:40 |
| verterok | dobey, Chipaca: I was also thinking in a get_me_the_sync_status_plzzz(<list of paths>) method | 15:41 |
| dobey | there is no way to do a single call for it in nautilus | 15:41 |
| Chipaca | dobey: no? | 15:41 |
| dobey | nope | 15:41 |
| Chipaca | dobey: get_metadata_for_all_files_in(directory) ? | 15:42 |
| dobey | we get a update_fileinfo call for every file individually, in the extension | 15:42 |
| dobey | Chipaca: we don't ever get a list of files | 15:42 |
| dobey | we'd have to do a lot of extra work to do that, and it would be very painful | 15:42 |
| dobey | though... one of rtgz's branches might make that a little easier, but not a lot | 15:43 |
| Chipaca | darn | 15:44 |
| rtgz | dobey, don't see how any of the branches might help that :( | 15:44 |
| dobey | rtgz: the one that stores the weak references to NautilusFileInfos | 15:45 |
| rtgz | dobey, yep, but there references like to go away after some time... | 15:45 |
| rtgz | and we can't get a fs snapshot... this will mean more caching inside the plugin which already contains a lot of them. | 15:46 |
| dobey | well, the big problem is we will never know when all the files are ready to pass on to the get_all_metadata call | 15:47 |
| dobey | so yeah, can't do that | 15:48 |
| rtgz | we might ... hm... there are 2 calls in nautilus - first for get_file_items and second get_background_items. The background one is called once per folder... we might try to collect all files, issue some combined request and later on wait for it to complete... | 15:48 |
| rtgz | need to check this | 15:48 |
| dobey | that's not what you think it is | 15:50 |
| dobey | get_background_items() is the call to get the menu items to add when you right click on the "background" | 15:50 |
| Chipaca | verterok: ok, so we can't bunch up calls without more work than makes sense | 15:51 |
| rtgz | dobey, true... debugged the sharing stuff for too long, now I try to attach these calls to whatever seems distantly connected. | 15:51 |
| Chipaca | verterok: can you make any async call response include everything that was passed in (that makes sense)? | 15:51 |
| aquarius | hi sorry back now | 15:51 |
| dobey | if the path were just the full path, we'd be fine | 15:52 |
| dobey | i thought it was anyway | 15:52 |
| verterok | dobey: we can add the fullpath | 15:52 |
| aquarius | ⚀ DONE: desktopcouch HTML API docs branch; bugfix branch for DC; add more DC docs to freedesktop.org | 15:52 |
| aquarius | ⚁ TODO: test music store!; continue work on desktopcouch developer docs; publish DC HTML API docs somewhere (where?); look at Tomboy xml/html translator; work with rodrigo on Music Store; write up things learned at UDS; step-by-step guide to what happens during contact sync; hand off "pipe" to transfer data between two HTTP connections with twisted 9.0 to lucio's team; make tomboy first-sync experience nicer | 15:52 |
| aquarius | ⚂ BLOCKED: not being able to think of where to put DC API docs because I am clearly stupid | 15:52 |
| verterok | Chipaca: /me don't understand, please elaborate? | 15:52 |
| verterok | dobey: please file a bug about this, so it don't get lost in the holidays ;) | 15:53 |
| thisfred | mandel: one thing I see wrong with your document: you don't use uuids for the keys in the mergeable lists | 15:53 |
| Chipaca | verterok: do you have the full dbus api somewhere? (I know you put it on pastebin yesterday) | 15:53 |
| verterok | Chipaca: https://chinstrap.canonical.com/~guillo/syncdaemon_dbus_api.txt | 15:53 |
| thisfred | I'm trying the web ui locally now | 15:53 |
| verterok | Chipaca: oops, not public url | 15:54 |
| mandel | thisfred, really? let me check | 15:54 |
| dobey | verterok: how about we just fix it right now :) | 15:54 |
| verterok | Chipaca: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/343768/ | 15:54 |
| dobey | (although a bug needs to be filed too) | 15:54 |
| rtgz | dobey, yes, otherwise desync will happen once more :) | 15:54 |
| mandel | thisfred, from my code => (self.id = uuid.uuid4().hex) | 15:55 |
| verterok | dobey: I'm doing something completely different right now, and want to get it done asap :) | 15:55 |
| dobey | verterok: i'll make the branch, it's trivial :) | 15:55 |
| verterok | dobey: ok :) | 15:55 |
| mandel | thisfred, they are Mergeable sets, for example phone_numbers is a dict of keys and data, just like the spec | 15:56 |
| verterok | dobey: thanks btw :) | 15:56 |
| Chipaca | verterok: schedule_next is blocking, right? | 15:56 |
| rtgz | please please please merge my branches first, otherwise this would be the 3rd set of 3 branches :) | 15:56 |
| Chipaca | verterok: by blocking I mean not part of an async conversation | 15:56 |
| thisfred | mandel: yes, but the keys need to be uuid4 uuids | 15:56 |
| thisfred | if the spec isn't clear enough about that, we need to fix it | 15:57 |
| dobey | rtgz: no, your one branch will just need to be updated | 15:57 |
| verterok | Chipaca: I think it's a yes: self.action_queue.content_queue.schedule_next(share_id, node_id) | 15:57 |
| rtgz | dobey, I can commit while it is in proposed state O_O? | 15:57 |
| dobey | yes | 15:58 |
| verterok | Chipaca: fwiw, all dbus calls can be async for the client it's just a matter of how the client make the call | 15:58 |
| verterok | Chipaca: yes, it's "blocking" | 15:58 |
| Chipaca | verterok: yes. So does the schedule_next throw a ContentQueueChanged? | 15:58 |
| thisfred | mandel: I don't think the web ui should break over this though ;) | 15:58 |
| mandel | thisfred, you mean that my ids are not uuid4? as I said, I use uuid.uuid4().hex | 15:58 |
| rtgz | honk, btw | 15:59 |
| mandel | thisfred, isn't that correct? | 15:59 |
| mandel | and yes, I agree, it should not break 'cause of that | 15:59 |
| thisfred | mandel: hmm, we use a different notation | 15:59 |
| verterok | Chipaca: I can't find where ContentQueueChanged is fired | 16:00 |
| Chipaca | mandel: str(uuid.uuid4()) | 16:00 |
| thisfred | right | 16:00 |
| mandel | thisfred, ahh let me know which one, so I can change the code (is a one liner) | 16:00 |
| mandel | ok, I'll change it | 16:00 |
| thisfred | I'm pretty sure this is the issue. I'll file a bug against the web ui | 16:00 |
| verterok | Chipaca: found it | 16:01 |
| verterok | Chipaca: no, it's poking with the deque dirtectly | 16:01 |
| mandel | thisfred, ok I made the changes on my code, lets try it with a new doc | 16:02 |
| verterok | Chipaca: basically calling: self.waiting.remove(cmd) + self.waiting.appendleft(cmd) | 16:03 |
| Chipaca | verterok: me suena, me suena :) | 16:03 |
| thisfred | mandel: let me know how that goes or if you want me to test it here | 16:03 |
| verterok | Chipaca: :) | 16:04 |
| verterok | Chipaca: should it fire a signal? | 16:04 |
| mandel | thisfred, will do, I'm working on it right now | 16:04 |
| Chipaca | verterok: I don't know, I just started going down the api aking myself that kind of quesiton :) | 16:05 |
| verterok | Chipaca: ok, please file a bug if you think it should ;) | 16:06 |
| Chipaca | it's not used outside of u1sdtool, and won't be used outside of that during lucid | 16:06 |
| Chipaca | so, probably not. But as soon as dobey needs to integrate it into the desktop, hell yes :) | 16:06 |
| mandel | thisfred, is going to take me longer than I though (Can't set '1f1526e8-df92-465a-9eb5-9c0ef304395e'. uuid-like keys are not allowed.) | 16:08 |
| mandel | I'll try to be quick to fix the issue | 16:09 |
| thisfred | mandel: no hurry, let me know what happens, or chad/aquarius next week (I'll be on holiday) | 16:09 |
| mandel | thisfred, oki | 16:10 |
| rtgz | dobey, sorry if I ping you too much, but what should I set in lp if i have committed a fix for "Needs Fixing" review, "Work in progress"? | 16:12 |
| dobey | rtgz: no. you just push your fix, and reply to the comment saying you fixed it | 16:14 |
| rtgz | dobey, thanks :) | 16:15 |
| dobey | oh | 16:19 |
| dobey | launchpad is smarter now | 16:19 |
| dobey | so you don't even need to comment | 16:20 |
| dobey | it adds the commit info in the middle of the comments :) | 16:20 |
| dobey | verterok: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/getmetadata-fullpath/+merge/16340 :) | 16:21 |
| mandel | thisfred, made the changes, waiting for replication | 16:23 |
| thisfred | cool | 16:24 |
| mandel | thisfred, confirmed, it was the format of the id | 16:40 |
| mandel | thisfred, interesting bug :P | 16:40 |
| thisfred | mandel: yeah, python-desktopcouch enforces that format, but nothing else should take it for granted | 16:41 |
| thisfred | mandel: note that not using that format will break stuff, in that your telephone numbers might not show up or be deleted, but it should not cause errors ;) | 16:42 |
| aquarius | ?? couchdb _id has to have a specific format? | 16:43 |
| thisfred | aquarius: not the id | 16:43 |
| thisfred | aquarius: the keys in the mergeable lists | 16:43 |
| aquarius | ah, ok | 16:43 |
| mandel | thisfred, from my point of view by problems was related with the fact that I was not relying on desktopcouch to convert my set to a dict, something very probably for people using other languages | 16:44 |
| mandel | I meant very probable, pardon my english | 16:44 |
| mandel | :P | 16:44 |
| thisfred | mandel: yeah absolutely, so we need to make this a lot clearer | 16:44 |
| aquarius | what's the problem with using different ids? | 16:45 |
| mandel | thisfred, adding it in the spec should be good enough | 16:45 |
| thisfred | aquarius: that it will break | 16:45 |
| aquarius | thisfred, what will break? sorry, I know I'm catching up late here | 16:45 |
| thisfred | aquarius: we detect the uuids by the format with the dashes | 16:45 |
| aquarius | oh... | 16:45 |
| aquarius | so that's how we know if something's a mergeablelist? | 16:45 |
| aquarius | oof | 16:45 |
| thisfred | which is a hack, but there's really no other way | 16:45 |
| aquarius | that's a bit magic. :) | 16:45 |
| aquarius | that needs documenting, then :) | 16:46 |
| thisfred | indeed | 16:46 |
| thisfred | and: I haven't thought of another way, rather than there isn't one | 16:46 |
| thisfred | so nobody stop looking for one! ;) | 16:47 |
| mandel | can't you just say that if it has _order it is a mergeable list? | 16:47 |
| mandel | for the list should be true, for a mergeable set, that is another story | 16:48 |
| thisfred | mandel: no, because we have mergeable sets as well, or at least we don't always have _order I think | 16:48 |
| aquarius | mandel, mergeablesets don't have _order, though | 16:48 |
| aquarius | so if we have to have the hack for one we might as well be consistent about it :) | 16:48 |
| mandel | documenting should be enough for know, at least that way someone will be able to find the problem | 16:50 |
| mandel | is there a doc validator? | 16:51 |
| * aquarius wags the waggy finger of disapproval about validators. | 16:53 | |
| aquarius | :) | 16:53 |
| mandel | at least for the "bloody" id.... | 16:56 |
| mandel | or for debugging, not to use them but for this things, they do help | 16:57 |
| aquarius | I agree | 16:58 |
| aquarius | the ID's a weird one, though. I don't think we'd have thought to put that in a validator anyway :) | 16:58 |
| mandel | well, is good to know why happens, I'll get back to my code, I wanna get ahead during the xmas | 17:00 |
| mandel | laters | 17:07 |
| burzki | hey. new One user, general question .. i have a file on two different machines. have been updating between them manually. i upload through One, how will it know which version to sync from? is there a timestamp process .. or ?? | 17:09 |
| aquarius | burzki, the easiest way to deal with that, at first, is to put that file in your Ubuntu One folder on only *one* of the machines, and let Ubuntu One copy it to the other machine | 17:10 |
| aquarius | burzki, so, put the version that you consider "most recent" in the Ubuntu One folder, and wait until it's been synced to the other machine | 17:11 |
| burzki | aquarius, got it. thx. second part of my question relates to tomboy updates .. my notes on the two different machines are different sets of notes. is there a way i can use One to stnc my notes so that the two collections become one and are then complete on both machines? i'm concerned about one set wanting to 'write-over' the other .. ? | 17:13 |
| aquarius | burzki, that should Just Work | 17:20 |
| aquarius | burzki, one set should not overwrite the other | 17:20 |
| aquarius | burzki, however! I haven't actually, strictly, tried that | 17:21 |
| aquarius | so you might want to copy your .local/share/tomboy folder somewhere else just in case I'm wrong ;) | 17:21 |
| burzki | great. i'll try it. | 17:21 |
| Chipaca | aquarius: that sounds like the kind of thing that could go in a screencast | 17:21 |
| burzki | thanks for clarification. | 17:21 |
| aquarius | Chipaca, syncing notes? | 17:22 |
| aquarius | burzki, when it works, do please come back and tell us that it worked so we don't have to add the caveat for the next person who asks :) | 17:22 |
| Chipaca | aquarius: "I'm Joe User and already have stuff on two notebooks. This is how I start using Ubuntu One to keep things in sync automagically." | 17:22 |
| burzki | aquarius, will do | 17:23 |
| aquarius | Chipaca, mm, good thought. the key thing is, for files, don't start off with two copies of the same file on the different machines, I think | 17:23 |
| aquarius | Chipaca, do we plan to change that? or will we always get conflicts if a file is alredy in the Ubuntu One folder when we start syncing, even if the file being synced down and the file already in the folder are the same? | 17:23 |
| burzki | Chipaca, i agree. would be nice to have a page off the One homepage saying how all this works, or a little tutorial for this scene | 17:24 |
| Chipaca | aquarius: No Can Do; there is no application-independent way to tell that case apart from a conflict | 17:25 |
| Chipaca | aquarius: if they happen to be *exactly* the same, you shouldn't get a conflict, however | 17:25 |
| aquarius | Chipaca, oh, really? I thought we conflicted even if the files were identical | 17:26 |
| Chipaca | aquarius: at one point we did. I believe we no longer conflict on file creation erroring out with ALREADY_EXISTS | 17:26 |
| Chipaca | __lucio__: can you confirm or deny ^? | 17:27 |
| aquarius | ah, fantastic, that cheers me up no end, then :) | 17:27 |
| CardinalFang | urbanape, I'm trying to switch to GOOG Chrome browser. How's the bindwood plugin coming? | 17:28 |
| __lucio__ | Chipaca, we dont conflict on file creation. but we had a bug where a user copied the same stuff to two machines and had conflicts, so we have a bug there | 17:29 |
| __lucio__ | aquarius, ^^ | 17:29 |
| aquarius | __lucio__, cool, cheers | 17:30 |
| aquarius | __lucio__, since if that's a bug, it will get fixed :) | 17:30 |
| burzki | thx folks | 17:31 |
| __lucio__ | aquarius, yeah, but i cant promise when, and i wouldnt bet critical stuff on that being fixed soon | 17:32 |
| __lucio__ | aquarius, someone asked for udfs, we are doing those, but we had to not do something else, you know :) | 17:32 |
| aquarius | __lucio__, ah, I'm not asking for this conflict stuff to be fixed because I'm depending on it, it's just bitten me in the past :-) pure personal desire, which takes a back seat to stuff we actually need to get done! | 17:33 |
| Chipaca | aquarius: do not mention fixing bugs to __lucio__! You'll hear all about UDFs | 17:33 |
| Chipaca | aquarius: and you want UDFs for the music store, so shaddup :-D | 17:33 |
| * aquarius grins. I sho' do | 17:33 | |
| urbanape | CardinalFang: it's a bit blocked on getting the env into the plugin. Looks like the only way that's gonna happen is with an NPAPI plugin. | 17:36 |
| aquarius | urbanape, yeah, I can't find a way around that, either :( | 17:36 |
| urbanape | yeah, sad | 17:42 |
| rtgz | btw, is tomboy note formatting fixed? | 18:09 |
| urbanape | jblount: if I submit the new-folder-inline-edit branch, will we be able to get the CSS fixed up in time for the next deployment? | 18:17 |
| statik | push it to zed :) | 18:20 |
| statik | then you are guaranteed that the related UI branches get done before it's merged to trunk | 18:20 |
| urbanape | is zed edge? | 18:22 |
| dobey | zed is like an edge for edge | 18:23 |
| urbanape | edgy. | 18:23 |
| dobey | z.one.ubuntu.com | 18:23 |
| urbanape | and how does one push to zed? | 18:23 |
| jblount | zed is not yet working, pushing to zed sounds like a bad idea. | 18:24 |
| jblount | urbanape: I can only give you a maybe, is there a bug that tracks the specific problems? | 18:25 |
| dobey | test driven development is like driving an SUV in the mountains | 18:26 |
| urbanape | jblount: nope, but I'll make some. It's about the positioning of the actions icons | 18:26 |
| jblount | dobey: Overrated and not as safe as you think? | 18:27 |
| dobey | jblount: pretty much, yes | 18:27 |
| jblount | urbanape: That'd be super great. If you assign them to me with a tag "next" they are really likely to get done soon(ish). | 18:27 |
| dobey | jblount: not built for handling rough terrain | 18:28 |
| jblount | Also, is anyone else creeped out when they see Jonathan Coulton after meeting urbanape ? Cause I am. | 18:28 |
| urbanape | jblount: will do | 18:29 |
| dobey | i haven't met jonathan coulton | 18:29 |
| jblount | urbanape: Also, z.one.ubuntu.com is for disruptive web ui changes, it will roll automatically every hour from lp:ubuntuone-servers/zed (or something) and will be using the production database. | 18:29 |
| dobey | verterok: i've been running contrib/test forever, and those tests aren't failing for me :( | 18:41 |
| verterok | dobey: the first error is from test_tools.py it should fail, as you changed get_metadata | 18:42 |
| verterok | dobey: there is a bug for the second failure | 18:42 |
| verterok | dobey: tests/syncdaemon/test_tools.py, line 141 is doing an assertion on the relative path | 18:45 |
| dobey | verterok: i changed the tests too | 18:49 |
| verterok | dobey: when? after proposing the branch? | 18:50 |
| dobey | oh test_tools i didn't realize was testing the same thing again | 18:50 |
| dobey | but that doesn't explain why it wasn't failing for me | 18:50 |
| verterok | dobey: right, it's weird that isn't failing | 18:51 |
| dobey | verterok: anyway, i pushed the fix | 18:53 |
| verterok | dobey: do we really need a different branch for the contrib/test change? | 18:56 |
| verterok | dobey: it's just an new option I forgot to mention in the merge proposal comment | 18:57 |
| dobey | verterok: maybe less so in this case, but one of the branches i worked on backporting, had unrelated changes to contrib/test, and was more work to backport. i don't know if this needs backporting also, but when i went to review the branch the comment said it was to fix the tests... but the contrib/test changes aren't to fix the tests, they were to help you encounter the failures | 19:02 |
| verterok | dobey: ok, sorry, I missed to add that to the comment | 19:03 |
| verterok | dobey: there is no need to backport this, as is justa fix to the a test | 19:03 |
| dobey | verterok: it also makes it easier to reference specific changes later, if they're separate branches | 19:03 |
| verterok | dobey: yes, sure. also if the "extra" changes modifies other parts of the system, this is just a tool | 19:05 |
| verterok | and I included that changed because helped me to catch the bug | 19:05 |
| verterok | *change | 19:05 |
| verterok | dobey: my point is that his branch is a unit of work, splitting it is just overhead | 19:11 |
| dobey | verterok: i understand your point | 19:12 |
| dobey | verterok: i am thinking now :) | 19:13 |
| verterok | dobey: :) | 19:13 |
| dobey | verterok: hrmm, why did you have to add the test to POTFILES.skip? | 19:23 |
| dobey | and what the heck is creating tmp/ and not deleting it | 19:24 |
| verterok | dobey: because I'm using __import__, and intltool-update is... | 19:27 |
| dobey | ugh, tests | 19:27 |
| verterok | dobey: no idea about the tmp/ probably some old tests | 19:28 |
| dobey | verterok: if that's the line complaining, please file a bug against intltool also, so we can fix that :) | 19:28 |
| verterok | dobey: sure, in which package/project? | 19:28 |
| dobey | verterok: intltool | 19:28 |
| verterok | heh | 19:29 |
| verterok | thanks | 19:29 |
| verterok | dobey: Bug #498292 | 19:33 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 498292 in intltool "intltool-update thinks __import__('<module>') is a translation" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/498292 | 19:33 |
| dobey | verterok: thanks! | 19:35 |
| * CardinalFang boggles at key modifiers getting stuck on. First Shift, then Ctrl. | 19:44 | |
| dobey | CardinalFang: syrup enhanced sticky keys? | 19:44 |
| CardinalFang | Could be. Seems to be synergy related, though I'm not ruling out keyboard layout wonkiness either. | 19:49 |
| * rtgz is in user-mode-linux instance | 19:50 | |
| rtgz | is anything proxy-related needs to be tested for ubuntuone? | 19:51 |
| verterok | Chipaca: ping | 20:02 |
| verterok | rtgz: I think there is no proxy support :) | 20:02 |
| rtgz | verterok, yep, i want to experience this :) | 20:03 |
| verterok | hehe | 20:03 |
| rtgz | which makes me wonder "why?"... | 20:03 |
| Chipaca | verterok: pong | 20:05 |
| verterok | rtgz: time? :) | 20:06 |
| verterok | Chipaca: hi, I'm doing some configglue stuff, and wondering if you thinked about upgrading config files :) | 20:06 |
| Chipaca | verterok: what is this "upgrading"? | 20:07 |
| statik | i think core python doesn't work well with http(s) proxy yet | 20:07 |
| statik | i'd love to get the patches for that out of the python tracker and into python stdlib that ships in ubuntu | 20:07 |
| verterok | Chipaca: e.g: I have a config file with an option in [__main__], lets call this option: log_level ;) | 20:08 |
| verterok | Chipaca: and now I'm changing it to be in [logging] | 20:08 |
| rtgz | statik, but I've seen some bits of proxy support in syncdaemon sources o_O | 20:10 |
| Chipaca | verterok: you create a parser that sets the right value in [logging] while also prints a deprecation warning | 20:10 |
| Chipaca | rtgz: do you have a proxy handy where you can test? | 20:11 |
| verterok | Chipaca: a whole new parser right? extending TypedConfigParser | 20:11 |
| Chipaca | verterok: yes. Patches welcome! :) | 20:11 |
| verterok | Chipaca: jajaja | 20:11 |
| verterok | Chipaca: ok, I'll see how it goes, thanks! | 20:11 |
| rtgz | Chipaca, yup, right here, squid | 20:11 |
| Chipaca | rtgz: what happens if you run syncdaemon with the right http_proxy environment variables? | 20:12 |
| Chipaca | not sure if it's http_proxy, HTTP_PROXY, HTTPS_PROXY or https_proxy | 20:13 |
| Chipaca | one of those ;) | 20:13 |
| rtgz | Chipaca, yep, it is something lowercase | 20:14 |
| * rtgz needs PPA, NM is not working here... | 20:14 | |
| dobey | rtgz: ppa:ubuntuone/stable | 20:15 |
| dobey | rtgz: or test the version in karmic-proposed instead | 20:16 |
| dobey | rtgz: then you can confirm the bugs are fixed and we can get the SRU out :) | 20:16 |
| rtgz | erm... do I have to do anything extra apart of just adding karmic-proposed deb line?... Candidate: 1.0.2-0ubuntu2 | 20:22 |
| rtgz | guys, are you sure that it went to karmic-proposed? the Packages file does not list anything ubuntuone related | 20:26 |
| rtgz | dobey, ^ | 20:27 |
| dobey | let me check | 20:28 |
| dobey | rtgz: you might be on a slower to update mirror | 20:28 |
| rtgz | dobey, main server, archive.ubuntu.com, just updated :-/ | 20:28 |
| statik | rtgz, btw here is the relevant bug about proxy support in python stdlib, looks like there has been progress https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/python/+bug/94130 | 20:28 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 94130 in ubuntuone-client "HTTPS over proxy fails" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:28 |
| rtgz | statik, yep... now i just need the client to test :) | 20:29 |
| dobey | rtgz: ok i guess it's not in -proposed yet | 20:31 |
| dobey | hrmm | 20:31 |
| * rtgz uses ppa:ubuntuone/stable | 20:34 | |
| rtgz | 443 port blocked, proxy started. launching ubuntuone-client applet :) | 20:36 |
| rtgz | Authorization Error: [Errno socket error] [Errno 110] Connection timed out. Now trying magic variables... | 20:37 |
| CardinalFang | statik, have you seen "bzr builddeb" fail at the debsign stage? I've worked around this once with someone, but I can't get it to succeed now. | 20:45 |
| CardinalFang | gpg: skipped "Chad MILLER <chad.miller@canonical.com>": secret key not available | 20:46 |
| dobey | CardinalFang: bzr builddeb -- -k'chad.miller@canonical.com' | 20:46 |
| CardinalFang | $ gpg --list-keys "Chad MILLER <chad.miller@canonical.com>" # yields exactly what I expect. | 20:46 |
| dobey | CardinalFang: debsign apparently apparently doesn't get a proper match for some reason, when using "First Last <email>" but 'email' works | 20:47 |
| statik | CardinalFang: I set DEBSIGN_KEYID= in ~/.devscripts | 20:48 |
| CardinalFang | dobey, gpg: skipped "chad.miller@canonical.com": secret key not available | 20:48 |
| CardinalFang | I've tried DEBSIGN_KEYID and DEBSIGN_MAINT, too | 20:48 |
| statik | or pass the short hex keyid to -k | 20:48 |
| dobey | weird | 20:49 |
| rtgz | yeah... it goes to the proxy | 20:49 |
| dobey | someone should fix debsign | 20:49 |
| rtgz | POST https://ubuntuone.com/oauth/request/ HTTP/1.0 | 20:49 |
| dobey | someone not me | 20:49 |
| dobey | rtgz: getting an oauth token definitely doesn't work with a proxy | 20:50 |
| Chipaca | meeting begins | 20:50 |
| Chipaca | oops | 20:50 |
| Chipaca | wrong ... thingie | 20:50 |
| aquarius | wtf? | 20:50 |
| dobey | heh | 20:50 |
| aquarius | oh, good, OK :) | 20:50 |
| Chipaca | aquarius: there is no meeting | 20:50 |
| aquarius | I thought, god, I've been here 24 hours :) | 20:50 |
| CardinalFang | Well, he got our attention. | 20:50 |
| statik | CardinalFang, I have DEBSIGN_KEYID=608C0112 and it works ok | 20:51 |
| rtgz | dobey, yes, but it is... just several lines of code away... of course, if it is not buried down somewhere completely | 20:52 |
| CardinalFang | statik, Got it. Thanks. I was setting that as environment variable, which doesn't work. | 20:54 |
| rtgz | 2008!!!??? | 20:56 |
| Chipaca | 2008? | 20:56 |
| Chipaca | the year of the awesome! | 20:56 |
| dobey | rtgz: but it is what? | 20:57 |
| rtgz | Chipaca, dobey, urllib bug is 1 year, 3 months old.. | 20:58 |
| statik | and the bug report in ubuntu is from march 2007 | 21:02 |
| dobey | what urllib bug? | 21:03 |
| dobey | rtgz: your statements are so incoherent right now :) | 21:04 |
| dobey | i have no idea what you're talking about | 21:04 |
| rtgz | RST | 21:05 |
| rtgz | ok, will try to not to output debug messages to the channel | 21:06 |
| dobey | rtgz: i am confused. i have no idea what bug you're talking about :) | 21:06 |
| rtgz | dobey, i have read the lp bug report about python urllib not supporting HTTPS proxies and thought that it is silly to have a year w/o working urllib-based apps. Then I opened the original bug report and it goes back to 2006 :) | 21:08 |
| dobey | oh | 21:08 |
| rtgz | statik, ok i will update my urllib2, hope that it won't break too much :) | 21:11 |
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| rtgz | statik, erm... it is already there for urllib2.py and httplib.py... but not for urllib (hm, no idea what's the difference, not python guy :) ) | 21:24 |
| dobey | rtgz: what are you trying to do anyway? | 21:25 |
| rtgz | dobey, find out why ubuntuone client does not connect via HTTPS proxy | 21:26 |
| dobey | rtgz: the things in syncdaemon or storageprotocol with "Proxy" in them, probably aren't the kind of proxy you might think they are :) | 21:26 |
| dobey | rtgz: doing http[s] proxy with urllib2/httplib requires some extra work that we aren't doing yet, and haven't yet had time to do, as i understand it | 21:27 |
| dobey | rtgz: do do ssl verification, we also had to do some special magic with httplib | 21:27 |
| rtgz | dobey, storageprotocol/proxy_tunnel.py ... | 21:28 |
| dobey | rtgz: yes | 21:28 |
| dobey | rtgz: not exactly what you might think it is :) | 21:28 |
| dobey | rtgz: i think to support https proxies in syncdaemon, it needs to do some stuff with twisted, similar to how the bw throttling works | 21:29 |
| rtgz | ok. proxy support is really broken | 21:52 |
| dobey | yes :) | 21:52 |
| dobey | alright, i'm outta here for now | 21:58 |
| dobey | later | 21:58 |
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