[00:03] <Quintasan> ulysses__: we can't upload to karmic now, only lucid :S
[00:04] <ulysses__> :(
[00:04] <Daskreech> DanaG: not at this point
[00:06] <ulysses__> Good night
[00:07] <Quintasan> ulysses__: night
[01:10] <JontheEchidna> Well, that fixed the phonon dependency
[02:13] <kallecarl> Is nixternal on?
[02:19] <nixternal> gotta stay for more than 4 minutes
[02:20] <JontheEchidna> dudes, source format 3.0 support is in the hizzouse
[02:22] <nixternal> dudes and dudettes to be a bit more pc :p
[02:26] <ScottK> whoa.  crimsun.  Long time no see!
[02:36] <JontheEchidna> At least I got to do this in debian/changelog: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/konversation/1.2.1-1ubuntu1
[02:40] <ScottK> Nice
[02:50] <ScottK> There it is.
[02:52] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: What package is this needed as a build-dep for?
[02:52] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: It is needed as a runtime dependency for all KDE packages using PolicyKit-1
[02:53] <JontheEchidna> well, they could use policykit-1-gnome too if they so chose, but yeah
[02:53] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: OK.  I was afraid it was needed for a kdelibs build-dep or something.
[02:53] <JontheEchidna> That's in polkit-qt-1, all sorted
[02:54] <ScottK> Cool.
[02:55] <JontheEchidna> btw, I updated the dep graph too
[02:55] <ScottK> Nice
[02:55] <JontheEchidna> after I got kdepimlibs from not dragging in kdebase-runtime
[02:55] <JontheEchidna> *from dragging in
[02:55] <JontheEchidna> actually, that sentence makes no sense
[02:56] <ScottK> Source looks good.  Building now so I can do binary New quickly when it comes.
[02:56] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: I totally understood it.
[02:56] <JontheEchidna> eh, maybe I'm looking in to it too much :P
[02:57] <ScottK> I agree it didn't make sense, but I could extract the sense from context.
[02:57] <JontheEchidna> I do wish graphviz could throw a few of the kdelibs deps on the other side of the chart, instead of making it super wide
[03:05] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Accepted.
[03:05] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Build-deps need a bit of work though.
[03:06] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: cmake looks for polkit-gobject-1>=0.95', but you don't build-dep on it.  This works because polkit-agent-1 does depend on it, but your shouldn't rely on indirect depends.
[03:07] <JontheEchidna> kk
[03:07] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Second, all three of the polkit packages require a minimum version of 0.95 in cmake, but you don't version the build-dep.
[03:07] <ScottK> So the buildds will think it's buildable on karmic, but then cmake will fail.
[03:08] <ScottK> So all three should be versions.
[03:08] <ScottK> verions/versioned.
[03:08] <JontheEchidna> At least for libpolkit-qt-1-dev, it doesn't exist in either karmic or lower that 0.95~svnblah
[03:08] <ScottK> Other than that, really good.
[03:08] <ScottK> OK, well I'd put it in there anyway, it may be somewhere.
[03:12] <JontheEchidna> worth a (sponsored) upload now?
[03:14] <ScottK> No.
[03:14] <ScottK> Actually, yes.
[03:14] <ScottK> This is the time to get it right.
[03:18] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: http://pastebin.com/f1dd1f0ec
[03:19] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Ready to go for after I accept the binaries
[03:20] <ScottK> (we don't want them to fail to upload)
[03:23] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Accepted and in Main.  In ~83 minutes they should be available.
[03:23] <JontheEchidna> whee
[03:24] <JontheEchidna> this unblocks packagekit from not being able to update
[03:24] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: ubuntu2 uploaded.
[03:24] <ScottK> Excellent.
[03:29] <ScottK> Weird.  Went into New again.  I guess it needs a publisher run first.
[03:30] <ScottK> Accepting again ....
[03:34] <ScottK> Done.  Back later.
[04:14] <JontheEchidna> ScottK: for the MIR bug, it is actually split from -workspace
[05:08] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: Would you please edit it then.
[05:08]  * ScottK just got back from driving in the 'winter storm' and it was NOT fun.
[05:16] <nixternal> ScottK: I just got back from driving in our winter storm, and it was a ton of fun :)
[05:28] <crimsun> this place shuts down with an inch of snow
[06:24] <ScottK> The snow tonight was particularly slick near my house and I was driving a 1991 Volvo 240 with bad tires.
[14:28] <ScottK> ryanakca: I fixed bangarang so it builds in Ubuntu.
[15:33] <ryanakca> ScottK: as in on Karmic?
[15:33] <ScottK> ryanakca: Lucid
[15:33] <ScottK> It failed to build.
[15:33] <ryanakca> ScottK: Oh, what was wrong? It initially built here in my schroot (I think so anyways)...
[15:34] <ScottK> For KDE 4.4, it needs to build-dep on shared-desktop-ontologies.
[15:34] <ryanakca> Ah
[15:34] <ScottK> I dont think we had 4.3.80 yet when you were testing it.
[15:34] <ryanakca> No
[15:35] <ryanakca> ScottK: I assume I'll need to make the same changes in Debian once shared-desktop-ontologies appears there?
[15:35] <ScottK> ryanakca: You will once 4.4 is in Unstable.
[15:36] <ScottK> (which implies shared-desktop-ontologies)
[15:36] <ryanakca> ScottK: OK, thanks
[15:36] <ryanakca> Where can I find the ktorrent packaging branch?
[15:36] <ryanakca> bug 498524 looks easy enough to fix...
[15:37] <ryanakca> lp:ubuntu/ktorrent ?
[15:42] <Quintasan> ryanakca: nah, you probably need kdenetwork source
[15:42] <Quintasan> ryanakca: apt-get source ktorrent
[15:48] <ryanakca> Quintasan: thanks
[15:48] <Quintasan> ryanakca: no problem
[16:20] <Mamarok> apachelogger: about that glib bug: it's getting worse and worse: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=219289
[16:20] <Mamarok> it seems to affect so many apps that this could well be exploited if it is not backported soon
[16:20] <Mamarok> cjwatson is not online these days, I pinged doko, let's hope this will get sorted out soon
[16:21] <Mamarok> Riddell: please see above ^^
[16:22] <Mamarok> (besides the very strange English in that bug, it really worries me a lot)
[16:22] <maco> bit of a wait for a response. he's out on what is apparently the biggest river in the UK, canoeing
[16:23] <ScottK> That shouldn't take long.
[16:24] <Mamarok> maco: well, we already talked to cjwatson who promised to talk to doko, but I have no news and this is a really big problem, crahes Amarok, Phonon and a few other KDE apps, so this needs to be fixed ASAP
[16:25] <maco> yikes
[16:25] <maco> ScottK: what?
[16:26] <ScottK> maco: UK isn't that big.  How big a river can it be.
[16:26] <Mamarok> ScottK: I only know the Thames
[16:27] <Mamarok> also, the bigger the river, the faster it flows, no?
[16:27] <ScottK> No.  The steeper.
[16:27] <maco> River Tay
[16:30] <Mamarok> hm, from the amount of water contributed the river just 30 km away is the potential biggest in Europe, it just get's renamed to Rhine later
[16:51]  * ScottK always thought it was either Rhine or Danube.
[16:53] <ghostcube> uk got rivers o.O
[16:53] <ghostcube> heh
[16:54] <ghostcube> its like to say netherlands have hills
[16:54] <Sput> Mamarok: mh, afaik the glibc bug is fixed upstream
[16:54] <Sput> plus you can just unset the MALLOC_CHECK_ variable...
[16:56] <ScottK> Next one sees Lex79, please mention that kdenlive could really use a merge.
[16:57] <Mamarok> Sput: yes, I know, that's why I want it backported ASAP
[16:58] <Mamarok> and don't expect end users to change that, this needs to be backported to Karmic, sick of these bug reports, this can't wait till Lucid
[17:51] <maco> Sput: quassel is doing something weird right now
[17:51] <maco> it showing nixternal and nixternal_ in this channel, and it can tab complete both of those nicks
[17:52] <maco> however, if i double click on nixternal_ and send him a message, i get back "no such nick/channel nixternal_" so i think quassel is showing me non-existent users
[17:52] <Sput> yes, that's a known and worked-on bug in the netsplit detection
[17:52] <maco> ok
[17:53] <DaskreeCh> Well if you ping nixternal_ that would be a defacto contentless ping
[17:56] <maco> hahahah i have my mic lying on the bed and the cat is propping herself up and making noises into it
[17:58] <DaskreeCh> Groooowl
[18:14] <ScottK> Lex79: kdenlive could use a merge.
[18:16] <Lex79> ScottK: you meant I have to do kdenlive merge?
[18:17] <ScottK> Lex79: You don't _have_ to, but you did touch it last.
[18:17] <Lex79> oh ok :)
[18:19] <JontheEchidna> kopete indicator patches are breaking the compile :(
[18:19] <JontheEchidna> and not an agateau in sight
[18:21] <ghostcube> :)
[18:22] <shtylman> JontheEchidna: got a pastebin of what broke?
[18:23] <JontheEchidna> http://paste.ubuntu.com/343906/
[18:24] <JontheEchidna> hmm, maybe that whole patch can go
[18:24] <ScottK> JontheEchidna: My advice is drop them for now and mail agateau.  I'm sure he'll update them when he's $working.
[18:28] <JontheEchidna> looks like he plans to move the kopete plugin to extragear
[18:28] <ejat> kopete-facebook <-- also break for kde sc 4.4 beta 1
[18:36] <shtylman> JontheEchidna: from what I can see, the part of the patch that adds the showCloseWindowMessage and shouldExitOnclose are not neede anymore
[18:37] <shtylman> kde trunk has that code already
[18:37] <shtylman> not sure which version we are patching against though
[18:39] <shtylman> [13:36] <shtylman> JontheEchidna: from what I can see, the part of the patch that adds the showCloseWindowMessage and shouldExitOnclose are not neede anymore
[18:39] <shtylman> [13:37] <shtylman> kde trunk has that code already
[18:39] <shtylman> [13:37] <shtylman> not sure which version we are patching against though
[18:39] <shtylman> didn't realize you left the channel :)
[20:18] <Quintasan> Lex79: you are doing kdeutils? I though I put my name on it, anyways overwrite my commit since I made a mess with encodings and such
[20:19] <Quintasan> Lex79: and I'm unable to do anything since it makes changelog filled with crap
[20:20] <Lex79> ok, I'm trying to fix changelog encodings
[20:34] <DaskreeCh> JontheEchidna: The kopete runner kinda sucks now to match the current state of kopete
[20:34] <DaskreeCh> hi jjesse
[21:27] <Mamarok> gah, could we please next time put a big warning on the announce "this is Beta, not for beginners, it will eat your babies!" ?
[21:28] <Mamarok> pretty, please?
[21:28] <Mamarok> there's already enough work we usual support, no need to force people with Qt 4.6 problems on us :(
[21:31] <DaskreeCh> Mamarok: Welcome to the New FOSS where shiny is in and reading what the shiny will do to your baby is out
[21:32] <ScottK> People install from the staging repo where is says "DO NOT INSTALL".
[21:32] <Mamarok> yeah, I know, it's just tiring
[21:33]  * ScottK can understand that.
[21:33] <DaskreeCh> Mamarok: I think that people are more willing to listen when they are burned. I tend to try and get people to be more responsible then
[21:33] <Mamarok> gah, I don't know what is worse, people with 8.04 who want to install Beryl or those with the Qt 4.6 problems...
[21:33] <claydoh> a little bit of s disclaimer would be useful in the future, though I am not seeing any complaints in the forum on it, problems perhaps,  but no one griping :)
[21:33]  * ghostcube does install from staging too ...
[21:33] <DaskreeCh> Oh you lost all of your files? Hmm did you make a backup before trying the beta file system as we said? no Hmm well you know this is exactly why we said that.
[21:34] <Mamarok> we should put 10 windows in between with big flashy warnings, then abort the install and they need to get a special permission from us to unlock
[21:34] <DaskreeCh> ghostcube: There is a difference in responsibilty.
[21:34] <DaskreeCh> It's like people upgrading to KDE 4.X+1
[21:34] <DaskreeCh> backup your ~/.kde
[21:35] <DaskreeCh> Ok!
[21:35] <ghostcube> :)
[21:35] <Mamarok> oh noes, not java again... can somebody help Pavel, please?
[21:35] <DaskreeCh> in two days. My stuff doesn't work anymore and Plasma crashes a lot so I"m back on KDE 4.x and my apps don't remember my settings
[21:35] <DaskreeCh> did ya backup ~/.kde ?
[21:36] <ghostcube> me ?
[21:36] <DaskreeCh> well that's why we said back it up
[21:36] <ghostcube> oh in general :D
[21:36] <ghostcube> heh too late here ...
[21:37] <DaskreeCh> Mamarok: I think that perhaps what we should do is have a release that first speaks of the problems, then the precautions that should be taken then the announcement something new is out then how to get it
[21:37] <DaskreeCh> our version of Click here to agree to the EULA
[21:37] <nixternal> would it be wrong of me to use my blog, post to the planet, that I am looking for some work? :)
[21:38] <DaskreeCh> nixternal: Is it FOSS related work?
[21:38] <Mamarok> nixternal: others have done that before you, why not? Just keep it decent :)
[21:38] <nixternal> DaskreeCh: I only work in floss
[21:39] <Mamarok> nixternal: go on I would say
[21:39] <nixternal> I can't work for proprietary companies any more...it is way to much work
[21:39] <Mamarok> yep, neither can I, drives me mad
[21:39] <DaskreeCh> I wouldn' have a problem with it. I think that more devs should post when they have jobs available
[21:40] <nixternal> I don't even put down on my resume that I contracted for MS :)
[21:40] <nixternal> in 2005/2006 when I first started working on Kubuntu, I was doing so from a nice comfy office at MS :)
[21:40] <ghostcube> who wants to throw the first cookie ...
[21:41] <Mamarok> wow, nixternal, you worked for MS?
[21:41] <Mamarok> isn't that what Miguel always wanted?
[21:41] <nixternal> unfortunately so
[21:41] <nixternal> Miguel did work at MS
[21:41] <nixternal> where do you think he came up with the idea to create GNOME? :p
[21:42]  * Mamarok suspects he still gets a paycheck
[21:42] <nixternal> or I thought he worked at MS when he created/founded GNOME
[21:42] <crimsun> he isn't the only one.
[21:42] <nixternal> well, MS has been paying quite a few of Novell's largest bills :)
[21:42] <nixternal> MS was Novell's government with a bailout plan
[21:42] <nixternal> crimsun: didn't miguel work for ms then?
[21:42] <Mamarok> no, he applied and was turned down, that's the funny part of it :)
[21:43] <crimsun> I think so, but I didn't and don't know him
[21:43] <Mamarok> crimsun: officially he didn't
[21:44] <Mamarok> from wikipedia: "In summer of 1997, he was interviewed by Microsoft for a job in the Internet Explorer Unix team (to work on a SPARC port), but lacked the university degree required to obtain a work H-1B visa"
[21:45] <DaskreeCh> nixternal: Neither does Miguel so I guess it's a wash
[21:46]  * DaskreeCh catches up and sees that the obvious was already pointed out :)
[21:46] <nixternal> oh, ok I thought he did work for them
[21:46] <DaskreeCh> He has the same kind of view that I have that MS is a fantastic Tech company
[21:46] <nixternal> imbrandon and I worked at MS at the same time :)
[21:47] <DaskreeCh> He just belittles the crazy Insiduios culture and the legal side of MS
[21:47] <crimsun> DaskreeCh: it is. It continues to have the incredible R&D machine.
[21:47] <DaskreeCh> nixternal: It depends on if you define working for them as getting paid :)
[21:47] <nixternal> haha, true
[21:47] <DaskreeCh> crimsun: That's why I said it's A fantastic tech company
[21:48] <nixternal> miguel is a cool dude though, I just have fun poking fun at him
[21:48] <nixternal> no matter what he does now, he has done a lot for the open source world, so he has my respect
[21:48] <DaskreeCh> The MS "vision of the future" videos always make me laugh my ass off cause theyare so unrealistic either from a Technical or a logistic stand point but they do actaully have a mind for future stuff like that and try to make it
[21:49] <nixternal> imagine if we followed everything that RMS spewed or that boycottnovell put out...half of us wouldn't be online because our broadcom's would be biting us in the asses :)
[21:49] <DaskreeCh> And regardless of FOSS ideals somethings are better trashed out in closed circles than being engeineered by the world at large
[21:50] <DaskreeCh> but the full control from start to end is just really something I can't stomach much and I hate the way they always turn to tearing others to shreds publically when they can't compete
[21:50] <nixternal> I will say this though about Windows 7....finally MS got it, and they created a product that doesn't bug me with slowness...my new desktop has it on there, and it is pretty fast and usable
[21:50] <DaskreeCh> nixternal: best Windows Evar!!!!
[21:50] <nixternal> I couldn't say that about Vista, XP was good, but it was so 1990s
[21:50] <DaskreeCh> So it's one above the rank ladder of best Cholera ever now
[21:51] <DaskreeCh> nixternal: Xp wasn't good it was better than Windows 95
[21:51] <nixternal> this is the first time I have really used windows, though I might only touch it for like 1 to 2 hours a week...the last time I used windows was windows 2000, and that was so I could play q3, counter strike, and some other game that I totaly forgot its name
[21:53] <DaskreeCh> nixternal: Still anonys me that it's less secure than Vista by design and I think I can leverage that to hold out a disparaging taste for it :)
[21:54] <nixternal> I will say, the MS Security Essentials is better than any anti-* I have ever witnessed...it doesn't hog resources and it gets the job done well...oh and it is free
[21:55] <DaskreeCh> nixternal: That's why they got sued :)
[21:55] <nixternal> I don't pay attention to their news..unless it is on lwn, lxer, or one of the planets
[21:56] <DaskreeCh> nixternal: Well in short when they said they were making Vista more secure and the ywould have a MS Antimalware suite all the securoty guys freaked
[21:57] <DaskreeCh> With a secure MS OS and one that works by understanding how the system works and not just trying to get another subscription next year MS can singly handly kill an entire industry
[21:57] <DaskreeCh> Which I find overtly amusing
[22:58] <DaskreeCh> We don't have QtParted anymore do we? It's mentioned in the Wikipedia page
[23:06] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[23:06] <DaskreeCh> !info qtparted
[23:06] <apachelogger> at some point partitionmanager will sure eat it
[23:06] <DaskreeCh> !info partitionmanager
[23:06]  * DaskreeCh corrects wikipedia
[23:07]  * apachelogger thinks that qtparted should just be retired in favor of partitionmanager
[23:07] <DaskreeCh> It has it seems
[23:12] <apachelogger> DaskreeCh: I mean globally
[23:12] <apachelogger> eject qtparted from all distros and replace it with partitionmanager
[23:16] <DaskreeCh> apachelogger: again based on what I'm seeing from the partitionmanager discussions basically distros that haven't been updated since about KDE 4.0 ship with Qtparted everyone else ships with at least some mix
[23:18] <apachelogger> oh ok
[23:18] <_Groo_> hi apachelogger
[23:19] <_Groo_> apachelogger: can you take a look at bug 498608 and 498612
[23:19] <_Groo_> thanks ubottu ;) nice bot!
[23:20] <apachelogger> didnt Lex79 wanna take a look at em?
[23:20] <_Groo_> dont know
[23:20] <_Groo_> apachelogger: i just opened the bug reports since i cant do squat
[23:20]  * apachelogger pretty much thinks so
[23:20] <_Groo_> btw are you guys doing the beta2 packages yet? i miss my kwin 3d :P
[23:20] <apachelogger> _Groo_: you could provide debdiffs I can upload :P
[23:21] <DaskreeCh> _Groo_: you lost #d?
[23:21] <DaskreeCh> 3D?
[23:21] <_Groo_> DaskreeCh: yeah its broken in beta 1, kwin cant activate 3d with radeon and mesa 7.7/7.8
[23:22] <Lex79> apachelogger: maybe tomorrow I can look, I want also merge with debian
[23:22] <_Groo_> Lex79: thanks lex...
[23:22] <apachelogger> Lex79: okies :)
[23:23] <Lex79> no problem
[23:23] <_Groo_> what about virtuoso, anyone taking care of that?
[23:23] <Quintasan> _Groo_: we need to wait for 6.0.1 to be released
[23:23] <Quintasan> 6.0 won't work with 4.4
[23:23] <_Groo_> oh btw, (sorry for so many questions), is the phonon package with equalization suport making into lucid?
[23:23] <apachelogger> always this waitery
[23:24] <_Groo_> Quintasan: cant we release a 6.0+git until 6.0.1 is out?
[23:24] <Quintasan> oh damn I going to bed, I wanted to do more but I'm not thinking clearly
[23:24] <Lex79> apachelogger: when you got a second, I need ack here http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/colibri
[23:24] <Quintasan> _Groo_: 6.0 is in ninjas repo but really no point in releasing it
[23:24] <DaskreeCh> _Groo_: Ah ok I lost it but my secondary account had it working fine. I don't know why
[23:25] <DaskreeCh> Quintasan: Any release schedule for that?
[23:25] <_Groo_> Quintasan: can i take a look? i might be able to backport the necessary patches if i have the time
[23:25] <DaskreeCh> Quintasan: having 6.0 not even on the main page is a little depressing
[23:25] <_Groo_> Quintasan: whats th ninja repo url?
[23:25] <Quintasan> hurr
[23:25] <DaskreeCh> apachelogger: Waitery?
[23:26] <apachelogger> wait +ery
[23:26] <apachelogger> :D
[23:26] <Quintasan> DaskreeCh: duuno about the release schedule, check virtuoso home page for it but it doesnt say anything AFAIK
[23:26] <Lex79> _Groo_: it's a private repo
[23:26] <Quintasan> DaskreeCh: and 6.0 is really useless now unless someone needs it for something else than Nepomuk
[23:26] <_Groo_> Lex79: ¬¬ figures
[23:26] <DaskreeCh> Quintasan: I know. It doesn't I looked. I'm wondering if waiting is a good idea
[23:27] <_Groo_> Quintasan: isnt 5.0 working with 4.4?
[23:27] <Quintasan> _Groo_: try compiling it :)
[23:27] <Quintasan> DaskreeCh: if I had to choose between waiting and compiling 5.0.2 I'd rather wait
[23:28] <_Groo_> Quintasan: is it java based?
[23:28] <DaskreeCh> Quintasan: Agreed. I'm just saying that we should probably have a cutoff date if we want to do testing
[23:28] <Quintasan> _Groo_: beats me, when I saw the source I was like "lol WTF is this"
[23:29] <_Groo_> Quintasan: im quite good in slapping misbehaved code into submission, im gonna take a look this christmas then
[23:32] <_Groo_> btw boys, any eta for beta 2? next week maybe?
[23:32] <DaskreeCh> _Groo_: Checked the KDE release Schedule ?
[23:33] <DaskreeCh> They normally don't miss by more than two days
[23:33]  * apachelogger is thinking about going on vacation from floss
[23:33] <_Groo_> DaskreeCh: no, not the release.. they tagged beta 2 already, i mean the ppa packages so i can update :)
[23:34] <Quintasan> _Groo_: good luck then
[23:35] <_Groo_> Quintasan: just out of curiosity, i know you rock , im just curious to see the mess that virtuozo is
[23:36] <Quintasan> I wanted to puke just by looking at rules required for building :DD
[23:38] <DaskreeCh> Mamarok: is there a known java6 issue?
[23:38] <Quintasan> _Groo_: I can assure you it is safe to assume I was too lazy to get it done :P
[23:38]  * DaskreeCh slowly sticks one toe in to test that assumption
[23:39] <_Groo_> Quintasan: btw are the kubuntu package rules already adressing the qt 4.6 stupidity in forcing tests for every compile? or i need to patch each and every cmakelist by hand?
[23:40] <Quintasan> _Groo_: beats me, Qt uses tests? I haven't seen anything like this when using cdbs with pkg-kde-tools
[23:41] <_Groo_> Quintasan: now with qt 4.6 it does... try to compile rekonq or anything else..
[23:41] <Quintasan> I will do it tomorrow
[23:41] <Quintasan> hurr it's tomorrow already here
[23:42]  * Quintasan calls it day
[23:42] <Quintasan> Good night Ladies and Gentleman :P
[23:45] <_Groo_> Quintasan: seeya quintasan
[23:47] <DaskreeCh> Night
[23:47] <ScottK> _Groo_: Tests are a good thing.
[23:49] <_Groo_> ScottK: not when they break every single package build :P
[23:49] <ScottK> Then either the test or the build is broken and should be fixed.
[23:50] <_Groo_> ScottK: do you guys have any documentation or custom builds? cause qt 4.6 is new in many aspects for me
[23:51]  * ScottK doesn't