| ebroder | Can somebody help me understand what's going on with <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/istanbul/0.2.2-5ubuntu1/+build/1405019>? | 00:22 |
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| ebroder | I don't understand why python-gnome2 wouldn't be installable | 00:22 |
| ebroder | (Or why the FTBFS would be arch-specific) | 00:23 |
| crimsun | ebroder: python-gnome2 -> libgnome2-0 -> libesd0 -> esound-common | 00:33 |
| ebroder | crimsun: What's wrong with esound-common? | 00:35 |
| ebroder | (I don't have a Lucid box/VM yet for testing) | 00:35 |
| crimsun | ebroder: libesd-alsa0 is awaiting binary NEW, so it prevents esound-common from being installed (since the latter is arch all) | 00:37 |
| crimsun | cf. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue | 00:37 |
| ebroder | crimsun: *sigh* ok. Why isn't this putting my build in dep-wait instead of failure? | 00:37 |
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| wgrant | It's complicated. The dependencies are there, but are uninstallable. | 00:39 |
| wgrant | That needs something like debcheck to determine when to retry. | 00:39 |
| wgrant | Which Soyuz does not currently do, and Debian only recented implemented. | 00:39 |
| ebroder | So just keep clicking the retry button every once and a while until it works? | 00:40 |
| crimsun | I'd wait until libesd-alsa0 is binary NEWed and published. | 00:40 |
| ebroder | Sounds good | 00:40 |
| ebroder | crimsun: wgrant: THanks | 00:40 |
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| CarlFK | esound-clients: Depends: esound-common (= 0.2.41-6ubuntu1) but 0.2.41-6 is to be installed | 00:47 |
| CarlFK | in case this wasn't answered: "ebroder: crimsun: What's wrong with esound-common?" | 00:47 |
| crimsun | how was it not answered? | 00:50 |
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| * ScottK is pretty sure it was answered | 02:41 | |
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| jml | Ng, to "~vcs-imports/evdev/master", sorry. | 05:10 |
| jml | Ng, I should have mentioned that. | 05:10 |
| ebroder | So is esound stuck just because it's waiting for an archive admin? Because ubuntu-desktop isn't installable right now | 05:38 |
| wgrant | That's right. | 05:38 |
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| ohay | I asked this on #ubuntu but no one could give me an answer | 13:42 |
| ohay | can I choose between Grub 1 and 2 using the alternate-install CD ? | 13:42 |
| persia | ohay: That #ubuntu doesn't have the answer doesn't make this a support channel. | 14:09 |
| persia | You might try again later, or file a question at answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu | 14:09 |
| ohay | ok then | 14:10 |
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| Mamarok | doko_: did cjwatson talk to you about a backport of glibc for karmic? | 16:18 |
| junjun | hi | 16:55 |
| junjun | it seems Ubuntu 9.10 kernel turns OFF the fast syscall feature? | 16:55 |
| junjun | I checked, and it seems SYSENTER_CS = 0 | 16:56 |
| junjun | with vanilla kernel, SYSENTER_CS = 0x60 at run-time. | 16:56 |
| junjun | so Ubuntu patched kernel to disable Sysenter? | 16:56 |
| * ScottK looks over at slangasek and wonders how the ia64 build turned out? | 17:26 | |
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| zbert | hello? | 18:24 |
| zbert | I'm usinig ircii | 18:25 |
| zbert | and this is my first time on there | 18:25 |
| zbert | I'd appreciate knowing these are sending aright | 18:25 |
| zbert | oper zbert | 18:27 |
| zbert | test | 18:27 |
| zbert | hello | 18:27 |
| zbert | is this working | 18:29 |
| zbert | quit | 18:35 |
| zbert | hello? | 18:36 |
| zbert | anyone on here? | 18:36 |
| zbert | hi | 18:37 |
| zbert2 | hi me | 18:42 |
| zbert | it does work! | 18:42 |
| zbert2 | thanks for actually writing | 18:42 |
| zbert | yep, would of been nice to have someone help me test this, oh well... bye | 18:42 |
| zbert2 | bye | 18:42 |
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| lesshaste | hello.. I have a small feature request. When you get a kernel upgrade in ubuntu, grub gets updated but it doesn't change the default kernel value so when you reboot you get some random kernel | 19:45 |
| * ScottK suggests you reconsider some assumptions. | 19:46 | |
| lesshaste | ScottK: go on... :) | 19:47 |
| * ScottK has run Ubuntu for years and has never had that happen. | 19:47 | |
| lesshaste | ScottK: I assume you don't use anything but the latest kernel? | 19:47 |
| lesshaste | if you have GRUB_DEFAULT=6 it will | 19:48 |
| ScottK | OK. | 19:48 |
| Mamarok | lesshaste: wrong, I run the same as ScottK since years, never seen that happen, neither with grub nor grub2 | 19:48 |
| Mamarok | and I had quite a few kernel upgrades since I switched to grub2 | 19:49 |
| lesshaste | Mamarok: what happens is that if you have GRUB_DEFAULT=6 say and a kernel update arrives it gets added to the top of the list | 19:49 |
| crimsun | lesshaste: please use https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+filebug/ | 19:49 |
| lesshaste | so 6 is now some other random kernel you didn't want | 19:49 |
| lesshaste | crimsun: isn't it a feature of the tool that updates grub? | 19:50 |
| lesshaste | whatever that is | 19:50 |
| lesshaste | when you get a kernel update | 19:50 |
| lesshaste | Mamarok: I think I found the official solution in any case | 19:51 |
| Mamarok | hm, since I don't change the Grub settings and choose manually if I want another than the latest kernel, it didn't occur to me | 19:52 |
| lesshaste | Mamarok: that's because you don't have to set it to boot to windows automatically for your partner :) | 19:53 |
| Mamarok | nope, lucky me :) | 19:53 |
| lesshaste | in any case, the official solutions is to use labels not numbers it seems | 19:54 |
| lesshaste | which grub supports | 19:54 |
| crimsun | lesshaste: I don't think the kernel's postinst should be mucking GRUB_DEFAULT | 19:57 |
| crimsun | (missing preposition, but whatever) | 19:57 |
| lesshaste | crimsun: well in that case anyone who doesn't use GRUB_DEFAULT=0 will have this problem | 19:58 |
| crimsun | I fail to see why the kernel postinst needs to care about other OSes | 19:59 |
| crimsun | regardless, the original point stands: please file the request as a wishlist bug report using Launchpad | 20:00 |
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| zbert | hello? | 20:24 |
| zbert | this is a pretty quiet room | 20:24 |
| zbert | is there a reason for that | 20:24 |
| Mamarok | zbert: because it is Saturday | 20:24 |
| Mamarok | evening in Europe, so the devs are off | 20:24 |
| zbert | really, I'd figure for open source, Saturday would be the most busy | 20:24 |
| Mamarok | zbert: not for those working all week on it already :) | 20:25 |
| Mamarok | zbert: anyway, if you need support, you should ask in #ubuntu, this is not a support channel | 20:25 |
| zbert | Yeah, well I'd never done much on ubuntu's dev so I'm new to the channels | 20:25 |
| zbert | I'm used to just doing stuff on sourceforge and stuff... I do all my coding over the weekends so just figured it would be busier | 20:26 |
| zbert | And I was just assuming that guidance on participating with the os would be in the dev channel, rather than just ubuntu | 20:27 |
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| slangasek | ScottK: the ia64 build succeeded; I was going to take a shot at debugging the powerpc build yet today before uploading | 21:21 |
| ScottK | slangasek: OK. Thanks. | 21:21 |
| ScottK | \o/ | 21:22 |
| slangasek | that is, if my shell doesn't segfault trying to handle the grotesque linker commandline | 21:23 |
| slangasek | (didn't happen, but for the life of me I'm not sure how :) | 21:25 |
| ScottK | qt4-x11 is a 'fun' package. | 21:28 |
| ScottK | BTW, 4.6.0 is just in experimental in Debian and didn't get built on powerpc. | 21:28 |
| slangasek | looks like the workaround on ppc might be to not pass the --gc-sections option | 21:29 |
| ScottK | slangasek: Upstream doesn't approve of my fix. | 21:40 |
| ari-tczew | is tseliot working on fix support nvidia drivers for xorg 7.5? | 21:40 |
| ScottK | slangasek: http://pastebin.com/d37aa0122 | 21:40 |
| ScottK | So I guess I need to look into it some more. | 21:41 |
| slangasek | ah | 21:41 |
| ScottK | OK, grep is a wonderful thing. | 21:47 |
| * ScottK may have it. | 21:47 | |
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| ScottK | slangasek: I admit to serious confusion about the ia64 situation. This is now officially way over my head. If you could look at that too, I'd appreciate it. | 22:15 |
| slangasek | ScottK: ok. currently, still reducing the powerpc segfault test case | 22:19 |
| ScottK | Thanks | 22:36 |
| ScottK | slangasek: http://pastebin.com/f3dab7d03 perhaps? | 23:04 |
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