[00:22] Can somebody help me understand what's going on with ? [00:22] I don't understand why python-gnome2 wouldn't be installable [00:23] (Or why the FTBFS would be arch-specific) [00:33] ebroder: python-gnome2 -> libgnome2-0 -> libesd0 -> esound-common [00:35] crimsun: What's wrong with esound-common? [00:35] (I don't have a Lucid box/VM yet for testing) [00:37] ebroder: libesd-alsa0 is awaiting binary NEW, so it prevents esound-common from being installed (since the latter is arch all) [00:37] cf. https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/+queue [00:37] crimsun: *sigh* ok. Why isn't this putting my build in dep-wait instead of failure? === lfaraone_ is now known as lfaraone [00:39] It's complicated. The dependencies are there, but are uninstallable. [00:39] That needs something like debcheck to determine when to retry. [00:39] Which Soyuz does not currently do, and Debian only recented implemented. [00:40] So just keep clicking the retry button every once and a while until it works? [00:40] I'd wait until libesd-alsa0 is binary NEWed and published. [00:40] Sounds good [00:40] crimsun: wgrant: THanks === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [00:47] esound-clients: Depends: esound-common (= 0.2.41-6ubuntu1) but 0.2.41-6 is to be installed [00:47] in case this wasn't answered: "ebroder: crimsun: What's wrong with esound-common?" [00:50] how was it not answered? === asac__ is now known as asac === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates === asac_ is now known as asac [02:41] * ScottK is pretty sure it was answered === Whoopie_ is now known as Whoopie [05:10] Ng, to "~vcs-imports/evdev/master", sorry. [05:10] Ng, I should have mentioned that. [05:38] So is esound stuck just because it's waiting for an archive admin? Because ubuntu-desktop isn't installable right now [05:38] That's right. === mac_v_ is now known as mac_vish === mac_vish is now known as mac_v === jacob_ is now known as Zeppelin === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying [13:42] I asked this on #ubuntu but no one could give me an answer [13:42] can I choose between Grub 1 and 2 using the alternate-install CD ? [14:09] ohay: That #ubuntu doesn't have the answer doesn't make this a support channel. [14:09] You might try again later, or file a question at answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu [14:10] ok then === mbarnett` is now known as mbarnett === Amaranth_ is now known as Amaranth === slacker_1l is now known as slacker_nl [16:18] doko_: did cjwatson talk to you about a backport of glibc for karmic? [16:55] hi [16:55] it seems Ubuntu 9.10 kernel turns OFF the fast syscall feature? [16:56] I checked, and it seems SYSENTER_CS = 0 [16:56] with vanilla kernel, SYSENTER_CS = 0x60 at run-time. [16:56] so Ubuntu patched kernel to disable Sysenter? [17:26] * ScottK looks over at slangasek and wonders how the ia64 build turned out? === shtylman__ is now known as shtylman [18:24] hello? [18:25] I'm usinig ircii [18:25] and this is my first time on there [18:25] I'd appreciate knowing these are sending aright [18:27] oper zbert [18:27] test [18:27] hello [18:29] is this working [18:35] quit [18:36] hello? [18:36] anyone on here? [18:37] hi [18:42] hi me [18:42] it does work! [18:42] thanks for actually writing [18:42] yep, would of been nice to have someone help me test this, oh well... bye [18:42] bye === yofel_ is now known as yofel === yofel is now known as yofel_ === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:45] hello.. I have a small feature request. When you get a kernel upgrade in ubuntu, grub gets updated but it doesn't change the default kernel value so when you reboot you get some random kernel [19:46] * ScottK suggests you reconsider some assumptions. [19:47] ScottK: go on... :) [19:47] * ScottK has run Ubuntu for years and has never had that happen. [19:47] ScottK: I assume you don't use anything but the latest kernel? [19:48] if you have GRUB_DEFAULT=6 it will [19:48] OK. [19:48] lesshaste: wrong, I run the same as ScottK since years, never seen that happen, neither with grub nor grub2 [19:49] and I had quite a few kernel upgrades since I switched to grub2 [19:49] Mamarok: what happens is that if you have GRUB_DEFAULT=6 say and a kernel update arrives it gets added to the top of the list [19:49] lesshaste: please use https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub/+filebug/ [19:49] so 6 is now some other random kernel you didn't want [19:50] crimsun: isn't it a feature of the tool that updates grub? [19:50] whatever that is [19:50] when you get a kernel update [19:51] Mamarok: I think I found the official solution in any case [19:52] hm, since I don't change the Grub settings and choose manually if I want another than the latest kernel, it didn't occur to me [19:53] Mamarok: that's because you don't have to set it to boot to windows automatically for your partner :) [19:53] nope, lucky me :) [19:54] in any case, the official solutions is to use labels not numbers it seems [19:54] which grub supports [19:57] lesshaste: I don't think the kernel's postinst should be mucking GRUB_DEFAULT [19:57] (missing preposition, but whatever) [19:58] crimsun: well in that case anyone who doesn't use GRUB_DEFAULT=0 will have this problem [19:59] I fail to see why the kernel postinst needs to care about other OSes [20:00] regardless, the original point stands: please file the request as a wishlist bug report using Launchpad === korn_ is now known as c_korn [20:24] hello? [20:24] this is a pretty quiet room [20:24] is there a reason for that [20:24] zbert: because it is Saturday [20:24] evening in Europe, so the devs are off [20:24] really, I'd figure for open source, Saturday would be the most busy [20:25] zbert: not for those working all week on it already :) [20:25] zbert: anyway, if you need support, you should ask in #ubuntu, this is not a support channel [20:25] Yeah, well I'd never done much on ubuntu's dev so I'm new to the channels [20:26] I'm used to just doing stuff on sourceforge and stuff... I do all my coding over the weekends so just figured it would be busier [20:27] And I was just assuming that guidance on participating with the os would be in the dev channel, rather than just ubuntu === lfaraone is now known as jwhales === jwhales is now known as lfaraone === Hellow is now known as Hellow|Christmas [21:21] ScottK: the ia64 build succeeded; I was going to take a shot at debugging the powerpc build yet today before uploading [21:21] slangasek: OK. Thanks. [21:22] \o/ [21:23] that is, if my shell doesn't segfault trying to handle the grotesque linker commandline [21:25] (didn't happen, but for the life of me I'm not sure how :) [21:28] qt4-x11 is a 'fun' package. [21:28] BTW, 4.6.0 is just in experimental in Debian and didn't get built on powerpc. [21:29] looks like the workaround on ppc might be to not pass the --gc-sections option [21:40] slangasek: Upstream doesn't approve of my fix. [21:40] is tseliot working on fix support nvidia drivers for xorg 7.5? [21:40] slangasek: http://pastebin.com/d37aa0122 [21:41] So I guess I need to look into it some more. [21:41] ah [21:47] OK, grep is a wonderful thing. [21:47] * ScottK may have it. === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [22:15] slangasek: I admit to serious confusion about the ia64 situation. This is now officially way over my head. If you could look at that too, I'd appreciate it. [22:19] ScottK: ok. currently, still reducing the powerpc segfault test case [22:36] Thanks [23:04] slangasek: http://pastebin.com/f3dab7d03 perhaps? === jldugger is now known as pwnguin === dendro-afk is now known as dendrobates