[00:11] <DaskreeCh> supersub: still downloading?
[00:17] <jc0694> hello everybody!
[00:17] <jc0694> i just installed kubuntu 9.04 on my pc and i'm looking for a good guide or book to download... any ideas?
[00:18] <jc0694> i'm a noob if you haven't figured it out (too much enthusiasm)... hehehehhe
[00:18] <jc0694> @find ubuntu
[00:21] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Welcome to Kubuntu!
[00:23] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: A good question would be what do you want to do?
[00:25] <DaskreeCh> :-)
[00:25] <DaskreeCh> Any questions on anything jc0694 ?
[00:26] <DaskreeCh> How new are you?
[00:27] <DaskreeCh> As in new to Linux? Or new to KDE or new to Kubuntu?
[00:27] <jc0694> first off, does this channel support being able to share and download files/documentation?  i tried the @find command but got nothing... i'm new to linux and kde
[00:28] <jc0694> i'm actually new to irc too...
[00:28] <Vroomfondle> the bot has factoids accessible via !
[00:28] <DaskreeCh> well the documentation is mostly at wiki.kubuntu.org
[00:28] <Vroomfondle> like !ubuntu
[00:28] <DaskreeCh> !kubuntu
[00:29] <Vroomfondle> the bot does not howeevr offer downloaded
[00:29] <Vroomfondle> as DaskreeCh says, the wiki/forum is the place to look for documentation
[00:30] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: if you open konqueror it has a handbook there
[00:30] <iconmefisto> how do I set up network audio streaming? I have a laptop with no sound, and want it to output audio on my desktop machine's soundcard
[00:31] <DaskreeCh> iconmefisto: Look into Pulseaudio
[00:31] <jc0694> ok... was kinda looking for a good .pdf file to download and break me in slowly
[00:32] <Vroomfondle> one generally learns Linux piecemeal, as-and-when
[00:32] <iconmefisto> DaskreeCh: yeah I thought pulseaudio would be the answer, but I can't find any info on how to do it in kubuntu karmic
[00:33] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Ha ha sorry to say there is no real slowly for Linux. It moves so quickly that it's all you can do to run fast enough to see it disappearing over the horizon
[00:33] <jc0694> is there a good server/channel that you may know if that facillitates the exchange of .pdf files or manuals for linux stuff?
[00:33] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: but as I said let us know what you are interested in and we can go at it.
[00:34] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: You have no idea what "linux stuff" entails :) that's like asking for a few tips on how to "live"
[00:34] <DaskreeCh> you'd be crushed by the table of contents :)
[00:34] <iconmefisto> jc0694: the problem is there is too much documentation. you need to narrow down what you want to know
[00:35] <jc0694> i know, i know... bad question... i'm a noob... i just need something to get me off the ground and feel confident getting around the operating system... when i power on kubuntu now, i look at the screen for like 10 minutes and poke around looking at menu options then i get out because i don't know what the hell i'm doing... heheheheh
[00:35] <DaskreeCh> iconmefisto: the kubuntu isn't really needed any docs you find on pulseaudio should suffice. Pulseaudio acts the same as it's below the desktop layer
[00:36] <Vroomfondle> just identify what you want your computer to do for you, then if you can't figure out how to make it do it then ask here
[00:36] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: what do you do when you are not in KUbuntu ?
[00:36] <jc0694> using windows xp... that's all i've ever used... linux is a bit, uh.. how do you say... "different" from xp
[00:36] <jc0694> ... but i like it!
[00:37] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Different it is. but what does "using windows XP" mean for you?
[00:37] <iconmefisto> DaskreeCh: but how do you configure anything pulseaudio in kubuntu. everything I read is ubuntu/gnome specific and installing those gnome config tools screws with sound generally, so I end up with no sound at all
[00:38] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: open konqueror and at the top there is a section that says starting points: Introduction. Click on Introduction
[00:39] <jc0694> i have know idea what windows xp means... i think the xp means like "extended program" or professional something... i don't know
[00:39] <DaskreeCh> iconmefisto: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio doesn't seem to have any Gnome Tools to configure
[00:40] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: it was something that wasn't a year to make people forget it came out a few months after Windows 2000
[00:40] <Vroomfondle> jc0694: XP stands for "eXPerience"
[00:41] <jc0694> ya... anyways, i hate the way ms keeps making you get their new os (not to mention new software to run on the os)... i'm through with ms, which is why i want to try linux
[00:41] <iconmefisto> DaskreeCh: padevchooser and the related tools are all gnome-specific
[00:42] <jc0694> ahhh... thanks for that vroomfondle
[00:42] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Ok how about we get you up on installing software. What version of Kubuntu are you using?
[00:42] <jc0694> i knew there was a reason to get up today :)
[00:42] <jc0694> 9.04
[00:43] <iconmefisto> DaskreeCh: also seems outdated: Dec-08-2007 for ubuntu gutsy
[00:45] <iconmefisto> jc0694: a good way to learn (if you have the time and patience) is to screw things up, then try to fix them
[00:45]  * DaskreeCh considers tempting jc0694  to jump to 9.10
[00:46] <DaskreeCh> Good way to screw things up and try to fix them :)
[00:46] <jc0694> i want to get 9.1 but i don't know how to upgrade...
[00:46] <Vroomfondle> bad man
[00:46] <Vroomfondle> or... lady
[00:46] <iconmefisto> DaskreeCh: exactly what I was thinking. try to upgrade
[00:46] <Vroomfondle> jc0694: there's no 9.1
[00:46] <jc0694> sorry... *9.10
[00:47] <Vroomfondle> Ubuntu release are numbered: y.mm  ie 9.04 is april 2009, 9.10 is oct 2009
[00:47] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: ok it's 9.10 First number is the year second is the month it comes out
[00:47] <iconmefisto> jc0694: if this is a new install of 9.04, the upgrade will probably go smoothly
[00:47] <Kage_Jittai> I have heard that 10.04 is off to a bumpy start
[00:48] <jc0694> yes it is... do you recommend upgrading as each new release comes out or wait maybe for 10.04?
[00:49] <Vroomfondle> I usually wait a month or so after each release.
[00:49] <Vroomfondle> but tbh if the current release works for you, stick with it for a bit
[00:49] <Vroomfondle> no point upgrading without reason.
[00:49] <Vroomfondle> unless you're a madman like me
[00:50] <jc0694> ya... i think i will for now... i've got bigger fish to fry at the moment, like having the remotest idea of how to use this OS
[00:50] <jc0694> i opened up konqueror... i saw some help documentation but it's only on how to use knoqueror... where is the built in documentation on how to use the acutal OS
[00:51] <Vroomfondle> jc0694: what do you want to do with the OS?
[00:52] <Vroomfondle> documentation on what to do with it would have to cover so many eventualities that it'd require a major project in itself - you may as well say "where's the documentation on how to use XP?"
[00:52] <iconmefisto> jc0694: well if you do decide to upgrade, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu
[00:52] <Vroomfondle> much documentation is on wikie.ubuntu.org
[00:52] <Vroomfondle> wiki.ubuntu.org
[00:52] <Vroomfondle> sorry
[00:52] <jc0694> i'm in a technical field that does a lot of modeling (it's a science field)... i will mainly be using kubuntu to do programming in fortran and c (some matlab if you call that a language)
[00:53] <Vroomfondle> fortran, eh. I guess you'll want to look into the GNU fortran compiler
[00:53] <Vroomfondle> !fortran
[00:54] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: You program fortran?
[00:54] <Vroomfondle> jc0694: http://gcc.gnu.org/fortran/ for general docs, and the compiler is available as a packe in the software repositories
[00:54] <Vroomfondle> (i.e. apt-get/aptitude/synaptic)
[00:54] <jc0694> did... it's been a while and i need to get back into it
[00:54] <Vroomfondle> and of course for C, GCC
[00:54] <Vroomfondle> !gcc
[00:55] <Vroomfondle> jc0694: do you know how to use apt-get? If not, it's worth learning
[00:55] <Vroomfondle> it's the main way of installing & managing software on K/Ubuntu.
[00:55] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: What kind of modeling? Math modeling or somethign more concrete?
[00:56] <jc0694> ya... i'm learning the hard way... i was hoping kubuntu had an installed aps menu so i could see what programs are installed on my pc (like in xp)... i installed matlab but the program doesn't show up anywhere... i have to run it from the shell command prompt
[00:56] <jc0694> major drag
[00:57] <what_if> I cannot see the local samba network from Dolphin, but I can from smb4k. Any ideas?
[00:57] <Vroomfondle> jc0694: it should show up in the K menu...
[00:57] <Vroomfondle> even if it's installed as a Windows program (should show up under the Wine submenu)
[01:02] <jc0694> i found the documentation on kde in konqueror... i really need to read this first...
[01:02] <Vroomfondle> to be honest I think apt is the most important thing to learn in k/ubuntu
[01:04] <jc0694> on last question:  has anybody gotten wireless internet configured on kubuntu on a laptop?  i've been checking forums and this seems like a major issue (some people even telling me to forget about... it's not worth the trouble)... is this possible?
[01:04] <Vroomfondle> it can work. Depends on the chipset.
[01:04] <Vroomfondle> I didn't have any trouble when I used Kubuntu on my laptop
[01:05] <jc0694> what chipset do/did you have?
[01:06] <iconmefisto> jc0694: well it's definitely possible. I'm doing it now
[01:07] <luux_> jc0694: works outta da bok
[01:07] <luux_> * box
[01:08] <iconmefisto> jc0694: find "Hardware Drivers" in the system submenu and get any proprietary drivers you may need, especially for wireless. the things likely to show up there are graphics and wireless devices
[01:09] <Vroomfondle> jc0694: iwl3945
[01:09] <Vroomfondle> (Intel)
[01:09] <Vroomfondle> (I think)
[01:10] <jc0694> ya... it keeps saying "no proprietary drivers are in use on this system" at the bottom it's referencing my broadcom STA wireless driver.
[01:11] <jc0694> it says "activated but not currently in use"
[01:12] <Vroomfondle> I have to confess I've abandoned Kubuntu for SUSE on my laptop, so will have to refer you to my fellow channel users for info
[01:12] <iconmefisto> jc0694: I got that message when I first "activated" it, but I don't remember what I did to enable it
[01:13] <jc0694> i don't know how to install the driver for it...
[01:13] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: what is your wifi that you are using?
[01:14] <jc0694> i think it's a broadcomm STA... that's what the kubuntu is saying is activated but currently not in use
[01:15] <iconmefisto> do you have a button on your computer that switches off the wireless?
[01:15] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Ok can you type sudo lshw -C network into a terminal and pastebin the output?
[01:16] <jc0694> ya... i turned i turned it on before so it's on now... i don't know if it needs to be on when the OS is booting up though
[01:16] <DaskreeCh> !paste
[01:17] <DaskreeCh> Vroomfondle: I thought you might be on Suse :)
[01:18] <iconmefisto> jc0694: from memory, I think I turned mine off physically, rebooted, then turned it on, then disabled/enabled it in hardware drivers again
[01:18] <DaskreeCh> iconmefisto: broadcom ?
[01:18] <iconmefisto> DaskreeCh: yes
[01:19] <DaskreeCh> ok
[01:19] <jc0694> ya... it's called a broadcom STA wireless... broadcom has made drivers for it which i've downloaded but it's complicated to install the driver... you have to do some type of make file to create the actual "executable" to install the driver
[01:20] <wesley_> hi, can my harddrive become fragmented?
[01:21] <jc0694> let me type of the sudo command
[01:21] <wesley_> because 97% of my home dir is full
[01:21] <DaskreeCh> !broadcom
[01:21] <DaskreeCh> Hmm don't know if that's the STA
[01:22] <DaskreeCh> wesley_: yes
[01:22] <Vroomfondle> wesley_: potentially
[01:22] <DaskreeCh> Not likely but it can happen
[01:22] <Vroomfondle> delete some stuff :)
[01:22] <iconmefisto> DaskreeCh: I see the same STA in hardware drivers. mine is BCM4312
[01:22] <wesley_> It was like 1,5tb and just 5 gb free
[01:22] <DaskreeCh> Oh os it is a BCM43?
[01:24] <DaskreeCh> so
[01:24] <jc0694> i did the sudo command and it returned some info... what specifically are you looking for because my laptop is on a different computer and i don't know how to tranfer the data (in a timely manner at least) to this chat screen
[01:24] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: open paste.ubuntu.com and put what it said there
[01:24] <wesley_> I have my home direction encrythed, but I have a nother harddrive and thats 1 gb, I would like use it for back up, but I want it encrypted to
[01:24] <DaskreeCh> We can all see it then. Paste the URL that it gives you here
[01:25] <DaskreeCh> wesley_: You would like to back up a 1.5 TB HDD to a 1 GB HDD ?
[01:25] <iconmefisto> DaskreeCh: but the laptop is not connected, so not easy to just paste
[01:25] <wesley_> No DaskreeCh just some fils which I almost never use
[01:25] <DaskreeCh> iconmefisto: ha ha of course :) I thought he was on the machine
[01:26] <iconmefisto> jc0694: can you connect the laptop with an ethernet cable?
[01:26] <wesley_> those files take to much space on my home
[01:26] <wesley_> like corrupted usenet downloads
[01:27] <jc0694> yes... i went to the website (past.ubuntu.com) but i have to have an account right?
[01:27] <iconmefisto> jc0694: have a look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1059819
[01:28] <DaskreeCh> wesley_: Why are you keeping corrupted downloads?
[01:28] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: paste.ubuntu.com ? No
[01:29] <wesley_> because they say after few weeks it could be that those corrupted downloads will be reapairable
[01:29] <DaskreeCh> supersub: ping
[01:29] <DaskreeCh> wesley_: Ah ok
[01:29] <wesley_> I use Astraweb
[01:31] <wesley_> but I want to backup my files but the harddrive should be protected, if police or what ever would come and see copyright procted files for example I have big problem, so have make sure they not get in
[01:32] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: It's asking for a account login ?
[01:33] <DaskreeCh> wesley_: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/08/17/7-steps-to-an-encrypted-partition-local-or-removable-disk/
[01:34] <wesley_> The best feature of 9,10 is option to encrtyh your home
[01:36] <wesley_> but I have recently bought a samsung eco drive, so I bit slower then normal drive, but atleast my nettop uses just 40 watt
[01:37] <wesley_> Lets see what our country's will do, I am running Atom330 pc with Nvidia Ion to reduce co2
[01:38] <DaskreeCh> wesley_: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Karmic#Create_an_encrypted_folder
[01:38] <wesley_> that guide better or what?
[01:40] <wesley_> could my computer be slowing down because full harddrive
[01:42] <wesley_> ah wtf you will not believe a single program is using 1500 mb memory
[01:42] <jc0694> daskreech you still there?
[01:43] <jc0694> ﻿jc0694@school-laptop:~$ sudo lsjw -C network
[01:43] <jc0694> [sudo] password for jc0694:
[01:43] <jc0694> jc0694@school-laptop:~$ sudo lshw -C network
[01:43] <jc0694> [sudo] password for jc0694:
[01:43] <jc0694>   *-network
[01:43] <jc0694>        description: Network controller
[01:43] <FloodBotK1> jc0694: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:43] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Yes
[01:43] <wesley_> I should report sometime like this orb is normal nzb downloader using 1500mb memory
[01:45] <prefrontal>  I can't get libx264 to compile from source on Ubuntu 9.10. I configure with --enable-shared (which implies --enable-pic) and I get: /usr/bin/ld: common/x86/cabac-a.o: relocation R_X86_64_32 against `x264_cabac_range_lps' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC
[01:46] <jc0694> i've got the data but still can't show you... past.ubuntu.com is asking for a login and password
[01:46] <prefrontal> pastebin.ca
[01:47] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: paste.ubuntu.com
[01:47] <DaskreeCh> past.ubuntu.com is you trying to hack into the server :0
[01:48] <jc0694> paste.ubuntu.com defaults to: https://login.launchpad.net/+openid
[01:49] <DaskreeCh> REally?
[01:49] <DaskreeCh> when did that happen?
[01:49] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: pastebin.ca
[01:50] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: or pastebin.com
[01:51] <jc0694> ok... got a link:  http://pastebin.ca/1720924
[01:52] <DaskreeCh> cool thanks
[01:55] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Ok you said you had some steps you were following. Do you have a linkg to those?
[01:56] <jc0694> ya... http://www.broadcom.com/docs/linux_sta/README.txt
[02:07] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: ok and where are you stumped ?
[02:07] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Oh did you install build essentials?
[02:07] <jc0694> yep... hold one sec...
[02:08] <DaskreeCh> naruto: Beleive it!
[02:10] <jc0694> the problem was at the end, specifically:  "modprobe lib80211" command
[02:10] <jc0694> this command does not build the file
[02:11] <DaskreeCh> that should happen long after the file is built
[02:12] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Can you pastebin the putput of lsmod ?
[02:12] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: If you don't understand any of this please ask questions I can explain what is going on if you like
[02:13] <jc0694> yep... one sec
[02:17] <jc0694> http://pastebin.ca/1720935
[02:19] <chris_> what's goin on everyone
[02:19] <chris_> I have a question
[02:19] <chris_> Can someone help me with drivers for Ubunut?
[02:19] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: type sudo rmmod ssb
[02:19] <DaskreeCh> chris_: Which drivers?
[02:21] <jc0694> done... didn't look like it did anything... after i entered my password it went directly back to the prompt... nothing displayed
[02:22] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Ah Right.
[02:22] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: A good UNIX command says nothing if something went right
[02:23] <DaskreeCh> Imagine it sort of like the boss of a well run organization. If you give the order for something to be done then it's simply done
[02:23] <DaskreeCh> If it's not then they will report to you as to why it wasn't done and leave you to make a choice as to what to do next
[02:24] <jc0694> specifically:  when i run the command "modprobe lib80211" it returns "FATAL:  Module lib 80211 not found."
[02:24] <DaskreeCh> For most commands you can tell them to report what they are doing as they are doing it so you can get info but for the most part nothing happeneing means that infact good things are happeneing
[02:25] <jc0694> got it... thanks for clarifying... see above for the error i get when i run the second to last command
[02:25] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: right why is there a space there?
[02:26] <DaskreeCh> did you run sudo modprobe lib 80211 ?
[02:26] <jc0694> let me try that
[02:27] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: no that was a question :) that shouldn't work
[02:28] <DaskreeCh> you should be running sudo modprobe lib80211
[02:28] <jc0694> dumb question... but the lib80211... is that a file?  the current directory that I'm in i don't see a file named lib80211
[02:29] <jc0694> ... becasue it keeps saying that it can't find this lib80211 file
[02:29] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: It's a file but it's kept  in the kernel modules directory that modprobe looks for. If the compile that you did was successful then it should be there
[02:29] <DaskreeCh> did you run make or sudo make when you compiled?
[02:30] <DaskreeCh> make would probably compile it but not have the authority to put it in the kernel directory
[02:30] <jc0694> it did build the wl.ko file but it put that in the current directory where in unzipped everything
[02:30] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: do you still have the directory that you compiled in?
[02:30] <jc0694> *it
[02:30] <jc0694> yes
[02:31] <DaskreeCh> ok cd there and type sudo - i
[02:31] <DaskreeCh> ok cd there and type sudo -i
[02:32] <jc0694> done... that put me in the root directory
[02:32] <DaskreeCh> really?
[02:32] <DaskreeCh> type pwd
[02:32] <jc0694> pwd
[02:32] <jc0694> sorry
[02:32] <DaskreeCh> does it say /root ?
[02:32] <DaskreeCh> :-)
[02:32] <jc0694> it says "/root"
[02:33] <jc0694> what is that command supposed to do?
[02:33] <DaskreeCh> hmm ok cd back to the directory you were in before
[02:33] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: it makes you a full root user
[02:33] <DaskreeCh> Your prompt should have a # instead of a $ now
[02:33] <DaskreeCh> # means you are root
[02:34] <DaskreeCh> so be careful since you can do whatever you like now
[02:35] <jc0694> what does the -i mean for sudo?
[02:35] <DaskreeCh> I just said :)
[02:35] <DaskreeCh> it makes you a full root user
[02:35] <DaskreeCh> so everything that you type now is done as if you were root instead of as your self
[02:36] <jc0694> oh... i've typed sudo before but no -i option... didn't know if there was a difference
[02:36] <Vroomfondle> without the -i, the root permissions only last for one command.
[02:37] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Without it it runs the next command that you do as root then returns you back to yourself
[02:37] <jc0694> gotcha... how do i leave sudo?
[02:37] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: If you have Konqueror still open you can type man:/sudo to see all the options while you are working
[02:38] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: type exit or Ctrl+D but we need root for now
[02:38] <jc0694> thanks
[02:38] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Oh in Linux ^ is read as Ctrl so if you see me type ^F that just means Ctrl+F
[02:38] <jc0694> ok...
[02:38] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: We like shortening things to the smallest they can get :)
[02:39] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: cd back to the directory
[02:39] <DaskreeCh> it should be in your own user directory which is under /home
[02:39] <jc0694> i'm there... still have the # so i'm still sudo :)
[02:39] <DaskreeCh> I can show you a shortcut for that if you like
[02:39] <DaskreeCh> ok type make clean
[02:39] <DaskreeCh> this will clean out the things from the last compile
[02:40] <jc0694> done
[02:40] <DaskreeCh> type make
[02:41] <jc0694> done... got a warning about missing a license file... but it did build the files
[02:41] <Wolfcastle> hello
[02:42] <DaskreeCh> !hi | Wolfcastle
[02:42] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: ok you should have a wl.ko file in the dir ?
[02:42] <Wolfcastle> how come kubuntu doesn't use pulseaudio?
[02:42] <jc0694> that is correct... it's there
[02:43] <DaskreeCh> Wolfcastle: Pulseaudio isn't quite ready, Kubuntu works without it and most of the features that PulseAudio bring to the table are not needed by most people
[02:43] <DaskreeCh> jc ok type ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/net/wireless | grep wl
[02:43] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: ^^
[02:44] <Wolfcastle> DaskreeCh: I see thanx, i just like the fact that I could turn up the volume beyond 100% with it
[02:44] <DaskreeCh> Let me know if it prints anything
[02:44] <Wolfcastle> It's kind of low in general
[02:44] <DaskreeCh> Wolfcastle: If you need it you can install it and use it we don't block people using it
[02:45] <DaskreeCh> Wolfcastle: I'm assuming you went into kmix/alsamixer and turned up the controls?
[02:45] <jc0694> do i type the parenthesis?
[02:45] <DaskreeCh> jc0694:Yes
[02:45] <Wolfcastle> yes indeed turned up the volume in both
[02:45] <DaskreeCh> Wolfcastle: They are the same thing so turning up in kmix turns up in alsamixer and vice versa :)
[02:46] <Wolfcastle> ah ok
[02:46] <Wolfcastle> just found a channel that helped a little at least
[02:46] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Ok two things about that command I just gave you 1) is that it runs a command that replaces part of what you did and 2) it piped the output of the command to a new command
[02:46] <DaskreeCh> Wolfcastle: great :) which channel?
[02:46] <DaskreeCh> and which card arey ou using may I ask?
[02:47] <Wolfcastle> hda intel
[02:47] <DaskreeCh> Ah of course
[02:47] <jc0694> having problems... in the /lib/modules directory theres only one directory called "2.6.28-11-generic"
[02:47] <Wolfcastle> hehe is it that bad?
[02:48] <DaskreeCh> Wolfcastle: They are redoing their drivers which casues a little bit of havoc
[02:48] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: right that should be fine
[02:49] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: you can do ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/net/wireless | grep wl
[02:49] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: you can do ls /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/kernel/net/wireless | grep wl I mean
[02:49] <jc0694> i'm lost on the path you want me to go to:  do you want me to type it exactly as you said (i.e. "$(urname -r)") or should i be substituting something for urname?
[02:49] <DaskreeCh> though that is the same thing
[02:49] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: They are the same thing
[02:49] <DaskreeCh> try one then the other
[02:50] <DaskreeCh> nixternal: would Canonical hire you?
[02:51] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: neat trick eh?
[02:51] <jc0694> ok... i did it... a little confused:  when i type "pwd" it says my current folder is in the 2.6.28-11-generic
[02:52] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Hmm not sure how you got there :-)
[02:52] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: type cd -
[02:52] <DaskreeCh> with the -
[02:52] <DaskreeCh> then type pwd and tell me where you are
[02:53] <jc0694> /lib/modules
[02:53] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: :-)
[02:53] <jc0694> is this right?
[02:53] <DaskreeCh> ok did the command that I give you show anythign ?
[02:55] <jc0694> no... i have used grep before so i know it's searching... that's what I'm saying though... there is no folder/subfolder after /lib/modules except "2.6.28-11-generic"
[02:55] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: you can just press up to get it back
[02:55] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Ok seems that it didn't have the shared library before
[02:55] <jc0694> that's the only subfolder under /lib/modules
[02:55] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: ok lets take a pause here :)
[02:56] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: type uname -r
[02:56] <DaskreeCh> what does it say?
[02:56] <jc0694> it says " -bash: urname: command not found"
[02:56] <DaskreeCh> 2.6.28-11-generic ?
[02:57] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: No uname
[02:57] <DaskreeCh> not urname
[02:57] <DaskreeCh> uname -r
[02:57] <jc0694> oh... im stupid heheheh =)
[02:57] <DaskreeCh> shoudl say 2.6.28-11-generic
[02:58] <jc0694> that's right
[02:58] <DaskreeCh> that s what you were typing before ?
[02:58] <DaskreeCh> ok type $(uname -r)
[02:58] <DaskreeCh> should say the same thing
[03:00] <jc0694> i'm still in the modules directory... it says:  command not found
[03:00] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Right of course :)
[03:00] <DaskreeCh> sorry yes that's right
[03:00] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: type echo uname -r
[03:00] <DaskreeCh> it should say uname -r
[03:01] <jc0694> says "uname -r"
[03:01] <DaskreeCh> type echo $(uname -r)
[03:01] <DaskreeCh> should say 2.6.28-11-generic
[03:01] <jc0694> that's right
[03:02] <DaskreeCh> when I said type  ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/net/wireless | grep wl the $(uname -r) would be replaced with 2.6.28-11-genric
[03:02] <DaskreeCh> which would go inside the directory there
[03:02] <jc0694> ok... let me try that command again
[03:03] <DaskreeCh> I didn't know which kernel you were using so that would always put you in the right place
[03:03] <DaskreeCh> without the ur :)
[03:04] <jc0694> done
[03:04] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: did it say anything ?
[03:04] <jc0694> no
[03:04] <DaskreeCh> Ok
[03:04] <DaskreeCh> so I just had you list out everything in the directory
[03:04] <DaskreeCh> the | passed that list to another command
[03:05] <DaskreeCh> and as you said grep looks for things so we were looking for a file that has wl in it
[03:05] <DaskreeCh> none exist so it's empty
[03:05] <DaskreeCh> Hmm want to learn another fun trick ?
[03:05] <jc0694> ya
[03:06] <DaskreeCh> ok you have a history of commands
[03:06] <DaskreeCh> Pressing up gets you back the command you did before pressing up again gets you the one before that
[03:06] <jc0694> right
[03:06] <DaskreeCh> lets jump back to the direcory that you were in before
[03:06] <jc0694> nice... how do i copy really long weird file name to prompt without trying to do it manually... that's a real drag
[03:07] <DaskreeCh> Press ^R and type home
[03:07] <DaskreeCh> it will search through all the old commands you did and show you the last one that had home in it
[03:07] <DaskreeCh> that shuld be the cd command to your directory :)
[03:08] <DaskreeCh> Well I hope so :)
[03:08] <jc0694> says something about a reverse i search... didn't take me home though
[03:09] <DaskreeCh> pressed enter?
[03:09] <jc0694> yep, i pressed enter... still in /lib/modules
[03:09] <DaskreeCh> bah :)
[03:09] <DaskreeCh> ok fine another trick
[03:10] <DaskreeCh> ~ is a shortcut for home
[03:10] <DaskreeCh> you are root right now so I think that if you type echo ~
[03:10] <DaskreeCh> it should say /root
[03:10] <jc0694> ya... that took me to /root
[03:10] <DaskreeCh> Right but you wnat to get to your users directory
[03:11] <DaskreeCh> so you can type cd ~username
[03:11] <DaskreeCh> and it should take you to the home directory of username
[03:12] <jc0694> ok... yep...that's good, i'm there now
[03:12] <DaskreeCh> ok cd into the directory with the source
[03:12] <DaskreeCh> you can of course have done both in one step by saying cd ~username/path/to/source
[03:13] <lazydragoon> someone know how to put emerald theme ?
[03:13] <jc0694> do you want me in the directory with the wl.ko file we made?
[03:14] <DaskreeCh> so we will copy over the driver with cp wl.ko /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/network/wireless/
[03:14] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: you don't have to be but it's slightly easier for you right now
[03:16] <jc0694> keeps saying that the file cannot be created because the directory does not exit
[03:16] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Hmm
[03:17] <DaskreeCh> lazydragoon: actaully #ubuntu is more adept at that than here
[03:17] <lazydragoon> ok
[03:17] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Moment :)
[03:18] <jc0694> when i went to /lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic I didn't see any subfolders there either... not sure why?
[03:18] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: none?
[03:18] <DaskreeCh> not even kernel ?
[03:19] <jc0694> sorry...that's not right... there ARE files there... kernel and some other stuff
[03:19] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Ok try this
[03:19] <DaskreeCh> cp wl.ko /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/net/wireless/
[03:19] <jc0694> but there is no network folder under kernel
[03:20] <jc0694> there's a folder called "net" in the kernel directory
[03:20] <DaskreeCh> Right :)
[03:21] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: ok umm check to see if there is a net/wireless
[03:21] <jc0694> ... but no network... the path above was referencing "network" as a subfolder for kernel... that doesn't exit
[03:21] <DaskreeCh> I really should have looked at that before >_>
[03:21] <jc0694> *exist
[03:21] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: yeah I was reading the broadcom docs which don't match
[03:22] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: press ^r and type network
[03:22] <jc0694> yep... there's a wireless
[03:22] <DaskreeCh> You can press ^r again till you get the | grep wl command
[03:22] <DaskreeCh> press esc then and edit it to change network to net
[03:23] <DaskreeCh> lets see if grep finds anything
[03:23] <jc0694> the ^r command is funny... it's either not working right or i'm doing something wrong... the only file in wireless is a file called "cfg80211.ko"
[03:24] <DaskreeCh> really?
[03:24] <DaskreeCh> hmm
[03:24] <DaskreeCh> there should be a lib80211.ko as well
[03:24] <DaskreeCh> which I guess explains why the modprobe was not finding it
[03:25] <jc0694> nope... nothing... just the cfg file
[03:25] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: ok let cp the wl.ko in there
[03:26] <DaskreeCh> you can copy it from where you are or you can go back to the dir and copy it from there to /lib/modules
[03:26] <jc0694> done
[03:26] <DaskreeCh> ok type depmod
[03:26] <jc0694> in which directory?
[03:26] <DaskreeCh> doesn't matter
[03:27] <jc0694> done... paused a few seconds but it's done
[03:27] <DaskreeCh> ok where are you now?
[03:27] <jc0694> sorry... it's NOT done... says permission denied
[03:28] <jc0694> i was in the wrong terminal... not the sudo one... hold a sec
[03:28] <DaskreeCh> cd into the wireless dir under kernel/net
[03:28] <DaskreeCh> Ha Ok :)
[03:28] <jc0694> now says done
[03:28] <jc0694> no problems or anything
[03:29] <DaskreeCh> ok cd into the wireless dir under kernel/net
[03:29] <jc0694> ok... i'm there
[03:29] <DaskreeCh> whats in there ?
[03:30] <jc0694> still just the cfg file and the wl.ko that was copied
[03:30] <DaskreeCh> ok type insmod wl.ko
[03:32] <jc0694> gives error:  " 'wl.ko' : -1 Unknown symbol in module"
[03:33] <DaskreeCh> err wait actually this is probably better done back in the other dir
[03:33] <DaskreeCh> cd ~username/path/to/source
[03:34] <DaskreeCh> then insmod
[03:34] <DaskreeCh> insmd wl.ko I mean
[03:34] <jc0694> fyi... i'm in the extract directory w/ the original wl.ko file:  says the same thing about unknown symbol in module
[03:35] <jc0694> could the file be corrupted or something?
[03:35] <DaskreeCh> no it's looking for a module but it's going to want the lib80211 module
[03:36] <DaskreeCh> but I'm betting if you type modprobe lib80211 it will fail
[03:36] <jc0694> ya... it failed... says it cannot find lib80211
[03:36] <jc0694> where could that file be?  and how come it's not where it should be?
[03:36] <DaskreeCh> iconmefisto: ping
[03:37] <DaskreeCh> don't know let me try track it down
[03:39] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: actually let me try this. modprobe wl
[03:39] <jc0694> from which directory?
[03:40] <DaskreeCh> Shouldn't matter
[03:40] <DaskreeCh> Do you get lib80211 errors?
[03:41] <jc0694> hahahah... a little gui popped up down below... said something about network inferface... then it closed
[03:41] <jc0694> maybe it did it?
[03:41] <DaskreeCh> no errors?
[03:41] <jc0694> no... it ran ok apparently
[03:42] <DaskreeCh> Ah nice must have removed the 80211 depends :)
[03:42] <jc0694> it popped a gui up titled "network" sometihng... then it closed
[03:42] <DaskreeCh> though it should need 0211_crypto for an encrypted network
[03:43] <DaskreeCh> If you click on the network do you see the wireless network?
[03:43] <jc0694> no errors though... do we still need to do an insmod command?
[03:43] <DaskreeCh> though honestly 9.10 is a lot nicer for Wireless Networks
[03:43] <DaskreeCh> nope I don't think os
[03:43] <DaskreeCh> so
[03:44] <jc0694> how do i "click on the network"
[03:45] <DaskreeCh> There should be anetwork icon in the lower right on the panel
[03:46] <jc0694> looks positive... shows a check box and says enabled but the wlan interface is showing disconnected... is that good?
[03:46] <DaskreeCh> Yep
[03:46] <DaskreeCh> at least it;s the right direction
[03:47] <DaskreeCh> most of the time that means the hardest part is done
[03:47] <jc0694> let me log into my router for a sec... and see if i can get it connected wirelessly
[03:50] <jc0694> YOU'VE DONE IT!!!!!  many many many thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:51] <DaskreeCh> :-)
[03:55] <webbb82> im running kde 4.4 and i just went to install plasma-netbook but i get this error
[03:56] <webbb82> plasma-netbook-dbg:
[03:56] <webbb82>   Depends: plasma-netbook (=0.0~svn1016996-0ubuntu5) but 4:4.3.80-0ubuntu4~karmic1~ppa2 is to be installed
[03:56] <webbb82> any help?
[03:56] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: It was actually a lot easier than I made it look I was just teaching you things as I went along
[03:56] <DaskreeCh> webbb82: Where are you installing it from?
[03:56] <webbb82> synaptic
[03:59] <webbb82> any idea?
[04:06] <DaskreeCh> webbb82: Yes but which repo
[04:15] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Anything else you want to do?
[04:16] <jc0694> no... i'm good... actually there is something but I won't push my luck... you've done enough for me today... i may try back tomorrow and ask you a question about getting some of these apps i've installed to show... currently i'm having to run them from the shell
[04:17] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: You can edit the menu and put whatever you want in there
[04:17] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Just right click the menu and choose edit
[04:17] <jc0694> hmmmm... you're tempting me hehehehhe
[04:18] <DaskreeCh> It's pretty easy just try it
[04:18] <jc0694> i did... i've opened the kde menu editor
[04:19] <DaskreeCh> ok go to where you want it to trn up and just make a new item
[04:20] <jc0694> let me ask you a really general question:  i'm having problems when I minimize something i can't find it again and have to open it up all over again... where do minimized "things" go?
[04:23] <DaskreeCh> Umm
[04:23] <DaskreeCh> anything?
[04:23] <DaskreeCh> and alt+tab doesn't show them?
[04:25] <jc0694> well, like web browsers and stuff... i click the down arrow in the upper right hand corner and they just disappear... i thought it would be like in xp and you would see a tab down at the bottom of the screen... i will say this:  when i hover my cursor over desktop 2 icon at the bottom it says i have 23 windows open but when i try and move to click it disappears... any ideas?
[04:25] <DaskreeCh> or only a specific app?
[04:26] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: Do you have a list of open windows on the panel?
[04:26] <poyntz> installing the most recent linux-headers has made kubuntu fast. (is that because i accidentally upgraded to the 64 bit version, or what is it?)
[04:27] <DaskreeCh> poyntz: kernel headers don't do anything by themselves. They are source code needed by some programs while you are compiling
[04:28] <DaskreeCh> So unless you had some optimization that needed the linux-headers Kubuntu hasn't gotten faster
[04:28] <jc0694> it doesn't show... only when i hover my cursor in the bottom left of the desktop screen will it show that the desktop has 23 windows open, but as soon as i move it disappears so I can't get to them
[04:28] <poyntz> DaskreeCh: is there any recent update that could have done the trick that you know about?
[04:29] <DaskreeCh> poyntz: That's more likely
[04:30] <poyntz> DaskreeCh: It's cause I read somewhere x64 next to the latest linux-headers, so i assumed that meant 64 bit
[04:30] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: ok can you open the add widgets dialog and tell me if you have the pastebin widget?
[04:30] <DaskreeCh> add applets I think
[04:30] <poyntz> DaskreeCh: also because the linux-headers are required for boot to occur...
[04:30] <DaskreeCh> poyntz: it means 64 bit aware yes
[04:31] <poyntz> DaskreeCh: bizarre. because when Intrepid came out I tried to install the 64 bit version of ubuntu and it failed...
[04:31] <DaskreeCh> You have  64 bit Processor I assume?
[04:31] <poyntz> DaskreeCh: the only reason i know i'm on the latest headers is because i manually modified the menu.lst file
[04:32] <poyntz> DaskreeCh: and ever since it's been a fast desktop
[04:32] <poyntz> DaskreeCh: I have an hp pav dv5000
[04:32] <poyntz> DaskreeCh: wouldn't kno what it supports
[04:32] <poyntz> DaskreeCh: if there's a command that could be of more use, i'll run it for you and give you the output
[04:33] <jc0694> yep... i do
[04:37] <jc0694> how do you chat in this public forum but reference a certain individual?
[04:37] <genii> jc0694: theirname themessage
[04:37] <jc0694> daskreech this is a test
[04:38] <jc0694> DaskreeCh this is a test
[04:38] <DaskreeCh> poyntz: uname -r
[04:38] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: FAIL!
[04:38] <jc0694> hmmmm... didn't work
[04:39] <jc0694> how do you chat with me where you have me address with my name and then a colon (:) like that?
[04:39] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: :)
[04:39] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: It worked I'm just joking
[04:39] <jc0694> ya... like that... hehehehe
[04:40] <DaskreeCh> !tab | jc0694
[04:40] <i_is_broke> start typing there name and hit tab
[04:40] <jc0694> !tab | DaskreeCh testing 1 2 3
[04:40] <poyntz> DaskreeCh: 2.6.31-16-generic
[04:41] <jc0694> DaskreeCh | test
[04:41] <jc0694> hmmmm... still not working
[04:42] <jc0694> if you said "hi" to me on chat, type exactly how you would say it inside quotations
[04:43] <DaskreeCh> poyntz: Ok it should use 64 libraries if you have them
[04:43] <DaskreeCh> jc <tab> hi
[04:43] <jc0694> !tab | DaskreeCh testing
[04:43] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: In this channel ! is a command to the robot
[04:43] <DaskreeCh> !bot
[04:44] <DaskreeCh> !hi
[04:44]  * genii slides DaskreeCh a coffee
[04:44] <DaskreeCh> !find partitionmanager
[04:44] <jc0694> i got that... but you said type "!tab | jc0694"... that didn't work
[04:44] <DaskreeCh> !info partitionmanager
[04:44] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: I was telling the bot to tell you about the tab command
[04:45] <poyntz> DaskreeCh: what's the package name?
[04:45] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: type das then press tab
[04:45] <jc0694> hahahahahah
[04:45] <jc0694> DaskreeCh, testing
[04:45] <DaskreeCh> poyntz: you have it already
[04:45] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: That worked
[04:46] <jc0694> ok... so the username seperated by a comma and then the message right?
[04:46] <jc0694> jc0694, testing
[04:46] <DaskreeCh> jc0694: anything with the username will highlight the message usually
[04:47] <DaskreeCh> jc0694, this should work
[04:47] <DaskreeCh> this should work as well jc0694
[04:47] <jc0694> DaskreeCh did this work?
[04:47] <DaskreeCh> yep
[04:48] <jc0694> ok... i thought it was more complicated, like a script or something
[04:48] <DaskreeCh> It is but it's built in and enabled by default
[04:48] <jc0694> thanks again... i'm gonna call it a day... once again thanks for all you help
[04:48] <jc0694> i'll tag up tomorrow to go over where all my windows are disappearing to
[04:48] <DaskreeCh> ok
[04:49] <DaskreeCh> I can probably fix that now :)
[04:49] <DaskreeCh> but night!
[04:49] <poyntz> DaskreeCh: thanks
[05:12] <mrlinux10101> hi
[05:26] <DaskreeCh> mrlinux10101: hi
[05:43] <Wolfcastle> do you guys recommend using strigi?
[05:43] <Wolfcastle> it's not a resource hog right?
[05:43] <HardDrive> How sexy is my ride?
[05:43] <HardDrive> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrvC-lgTqhk
[05:43] <DaskreeCh> Wolfcastle: It is but if the tradeoff is better for ou then wheeee :)
[05:45] <Wolfcastle> hmm ok I guess I'll stick to find in my konsole ;-)
[05:45] <Wolfcastle> HardDrive: I bet the ladies go crazy when they see that
[05:46] <cjae> Hi. Coulld anyone spare the time on how to add efnet to quassel
[05:47] <cjae> File > Networks >Configure Networks > Add  irc.efnet.net ?
[05:48] <cjae> http://www.efnet.org/?module=servers
[05:48] <DaskreeCh> Yep
[05:48] <cjae> or just use the syntax from this page?
[05:49] <cjae> DaskreeCh: is that the correct network address?
[05:49] <mrlinux10101> nice ride!
[05:50] <mrlinux10101> looks like it has plenty of room
[05:50] <DaskreeCh> cjae: use the servers they have on the servers page but the efnet server you said should work
[05:50] <cjae> thanks
[05:50] <mrlinux10101> what is efnet um never come here google
[05:51] <mrlinux10101> anyone try the new kubuntu release? alpha build cant remember the name
[05:52] <DaskreeCh> mrlinux10101: 10.04
[05:52] <mrlinux10101> exactly
[05:52] <mrlinux10101> how is it
[05:52] <cjae> DaskreeCh: sorry one more thing, is there a way to add a list like the one that comes with xchat?
[05:52] <mrlinux10101> 9.10 is the best thing on the planet right now
[05:52] <cjae> it is just a network list added to it upon install
[05:53] <DaskreeCh> cjae: You mean one of all the well known IRC Networks?
[05:53] <cjae> yes
[05:53] <DaskreeCh> mrlinux10101: It's a little rough but pretty good shape for being this early
[05:53] <DaskreeCh> cjae: Not sure can you join #quassel and ask there?
[05:53] <mrlinux10101> i guess ill wait intill upgrading
[05:54] <cjae> instead of manually entering each one separately
[05:54] <cjae> thanks again
[06:05] <bdizzle> hi, I was wondering if anyone knew how to fix the time zone on the clocks?
[06:06] <bdizzle> for some reason, mine is getting confused. I had to manually adjust it for daylight savings change over and was on mountain time, but had to use east coast time to show it for some reason
[06:08] <DaskreeCh> bdizzle: What time is it saying now?
[06:09] <bdizzle> right now it is showing 11:09 PM
[06:10] <DaskreeCh> What do you expect it to say?
[06:10] <bdizzle> I am using East Coast time, although currently for the holidays, I am back on the east coast
[06:10] <bdizzle> I'd expect it to say 1:10 AM right now
[06:11] <DaskreeCh> What is selected as your time zone?
[06:12] <bdizzle> New York
[06:14] <DaskreeCh> What was selected before?
[06:14] <bdizzle> Denver I believe
[06:15] <DaskreeCh> Do you have NTP on or off?
[06:15] <bdizzle> okay, I think I figured it out uzing the date and time settings
[06:15] <bdizzle> NTP? The automatic date and time set? I just turned it on and it fixed it somehow
[06:16] <DaskreeCh> That's what I was about to ask
[06:17] <bdizzle> gotcha
[06:17] <bdizzle> but yeah, it works for now at least
[06:17] <bdizzle> I'll have to play with it when I go back to mountain time for school in january
[06:20] <DaskreeCh> Probably just have to click NTP first
[06:23] <bdizzle> gotcha
[06:23] <bdizzle> alright, thanks
[06:41] <michaeljwjr> Hey guys I keep getting the following error when I try running configure on my intel video driver:
[06:41] <michaeljwjr> checking for XORG... configure: error: Package requirements (xorg-server >= 1.6 xproto fontsproto ) were not met:
[06:41] <michaeljwjr> No package 'xorg-server' found
[06:47] <DaskreeCh> michaeljwjr: install xserver-xorg-dev
[06:49] <michaeljwjr> yeah I did that.
[06:49] <michaeljwjr> still didn't work
[06:51] <DaskreeCh> Tell her Hello from Jamaica ;)
[06:51] <i_is_broke> michaeljwjr, you have to install xserver-xorg-core
[06:52] <michaeljwjr> yes, I already installed it, still not working
[06:52] <davhere> hi
[06:53] <davhere> thinking of how to word my question
[06:53] <i_is_broke> michaeljwjr, did you do dpkg --reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[06:54] <michaeljwjr> doesn't work
[06:54] <michaeljwjr> dpkg: unknown option --reconfigure
[06:55] <i_is_broke> ah try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:55] <i_is_broke> sorry i know its something like that.
[06:55] <davhere> i need to install a cd writable on this puter that i dont have drivers for to get drivers for my second computers net card
[06:55] <i_is_broke> i had to do it with mine to get x working a little while back.
[06:56] <i_is_broke> davhere, k3b
[06:56] <davhere> whats that?
[06:56] <i_is_broke> its a burn program for kde.
[06:57] <i_is_broke> like nero
[06:57] <davhere> will be under add and remove?
[06:57] <i_is_broke> i think there is one called burn as well.
[06:57] <i_is_broke> but its cli
[06:57] <i_is_broke> i think.
[06:58] <i_is_broke> and yes i think its in the add and remove. if not you can get it from kpackagekit.
[06:58] <i_is_broke> or go to terminal and type in sudo apt-get install k3b
[06:59] <DaskreeCh> davhere: The CD writer will just work
[06:59] <davhere> ok
[06:59] <i_is_broke> davhere, yeah you dont need a driver for it in linux at least i never have had too.
[06:59] <davhere> i had not put it in yet
[07:00] <i_is_broke> michaeljwjr, getting anywhere?
[07:01] <davhere> ty for help...you all are great
[07:01] <i_is_broke> davhere, np and your welcome
[07:01] <michaeljwjr> apparently intel has been "blacklisted" a friend suggest a site to fix it
[07:02] <i_is_broke> huh, i run it on 2 computers, how can it be blacklisted..?
[07:02] <chris____> what's up everyone
[07:02] <DaskreeCh> michaeljwjr: What are you trying to do?
[07:02] <i_is_broke> ok whatever, its late and i am falling asleep g/luck
[07:03] <DaskreeCh> i_is_broke: Night
[07:03] <chris____> Is anybody in here from Germany? Kommt jemand hier aus Deutschland?
[07:03] <michaeljwjr> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/KernelModeSetting
[07:03] <chris____> i-jemand*
[07:11] <DaskreeCh> !de
[07:13] <keekee> hello everyone
[07:13] <keekee> i need some help
[07:26] <DaskreeCh> michaeljwjr: How are you getting along?
[07:27] <michaeljwjr> lol
[07:27] <michaeljwjr> well when I tried running the KSM thing with sudo rmmod i915, i was told i915 is in use.
[07:28] <michaeljwjr> so I am still learning
[07:35] <DaskreeCh> michaeljwjr: sudo modprobe -r i915
[07:40] <th3zik> hi
[07:40] <th3zik> i need some help
[07:40] <th3zik> i have trouble with samba
[08:19] <aliendoggie> hi, how I can reinstall *all* packages in kubuntu-desktop?
[08:20] <shocklateboy92> hey guys
[08:21] <devilsadvocate> aliendoggie, reinstall?
[08:22] <shocklateboy92> erm just btw
[08:22] <aliendoggie> devilsadvocate, i messed up my installation. now plasma-desktop always crashing. I want to reinstall all packages in kubuntu-desktop in hope to fix it
[08:22] <shocklateboy92> does anyone know if it's possible 2 intergrate nepomuk into kickoff
[08:22] <shocklateboy92> ?
[08:23] <DaskreeCh> aliendoggie: sudo apt-get install -a --reinstall
[08:24] <DaskreeCh> shocklateboy92: I assume you mean krunner
[08:24] <DaskreeCh> And yes that's how kickoff ships in KDE 4.4
[08:24] <shocklateboy92> in krunner, its allready there
[08:24] <shocklateboy92> (when i press Alt+F2)
[08:24] <aliendoggie> DaskreeCh, thanks. i will try that
[08:24] <shocklateboy92> but what i want is the start menu search thing 2 use nepomuk
[08:25] <shocklateboy92> like Vista's Indexing search
[08:25] <aliendoggie> DarkriftX, E: Command line option 'a' [from -a] is not known.
[08:25] <DaskreeCh> shocklateboy92: should be like that in KDE 4.4
[08:26] <shocklateboy92> oh
[08:26] <shocklateboy92> well i have 4.3.2
[08:26] <shocklateboy92> and 4.4 is still in beta right?
[08:28] <DaskreeCh> shocklateboy92: Yes should be out in less than a month
[08:28] <DaskreeCh> or about a month actually
[08:29] <shocklateboy92> oh kl i'll get it then
[08:29] <shocklateboy92> thx DaskreeCh
[08:29] <aliendoggie> DaskreeCh, no go  E: Command line option 'a' [from -a] is not known.
[08:30] <aliendoggie> DaskreeCh, what package I have to reinstall in order to reinstall plasma-desktop?
[08:31] <DaskreeCh> kdebase-workspace-bin
[08:32] <aliendoggie> DaskreeCh, thx. will try that
[08:54] <SilentDis> hello, how does one get the BISS psplist.zip blocklist to work with ktorrent?  I've tried keeping it zipped, unzipping it (appears to be a straight text file of IPs), but each time i attempt to import it in ktorrent, it says no IPs were found.
[09:23] <zxsov> so quiet!
[09:24] <Peace-> xD
[09:26] <DaskreeCh> Shhhh
[09:26] <DaskreeCh> I was napping
[09:26] <DaskreeCh> zzZZZZ
[09:27] <Peace-> i was listening Beach Boys - I Get Around
[09:31] <Mesdag> anybody knows about an issue with the 185.x drivers in ubuntu that causes the output on the dvi head to be dvi when a vga-adapter is used? I'm unable to get twinview working with dual vga monitors. The card is a 8400GS
[09:32] <zxsov> <Peace-:   would you like to share your music more?
[09:35] <Peace-> xD
[09:35] <Peace-> zxsov: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4zvpMBxVAvU&feature=related
[09:36] <zxsov> what's that?
[09:37] <Peace-> music then
[09:39] <zxsov> thankyou    to go to Youtube , I  must thru tha web proxy
[09:39] <Peace-> oh
[09:39] <Peace-> Creedence Clearwater Revival Cotton Fields
[09:39] <Peace-> xD
[09:41] <zxsov> THX
[10:15] <bibii> Hi ppl!
[10:15] <Peace-> hi
[10:16] <bibii> Are you speek russion?
[10:16] <bibii> Не, ребят, серьёзно, кто нить говорит по русски?
[10:17] <faileas> !ru
[10:17] <faileas> you'd best try there ;)
[10:17] <bibii> ^_^
[10:21] <ionut> how can i install kdm themes?
[10:23] <znika> please may you tell me how to use printer canon mf4010 on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[10:25] <ionut> does anyone knows if ubuntu 9.10 can work with windows 7 on the same pc( dual boot) ?
[10:28] <filthpig> Hi all. I've installed Kubuntu 9.10 on a laptop, and had to fix the wireless drivers manually. I've had some problems with the driver not working (possibly after updates), and suspect this is due to me doing stuff manually instead of compiling the sucker (it threw some errors at me, while the manual copy/paste/depmod/modprobe-solution worked. (this is the exact recipe I followed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/401126/com
[10:39] <ionut> can i install ubuntu 9.10 and have also windows seven on my pc ?
[10:40] <soee> hi
[10:45] <sjakie-> ionut, yes you can have multiple operating systems installed
[10:46] <ionut> sjakie-: yes,i know,but are compatible linux ubuntu 9.10 karmic coala with windows seven ?
[10:47] <sjakie-> yes you can have those installed
[10:48] <sjakie-> it doesn't matter if you install windows xp of ubuntu 8.04 of windows 7 or 9.10
[10:48] <ionut> yes but i heard that ubuntu 9.10 is not compatible with windows seven
[10:49] <sjakie-> you have your harddisk, you make at least 2 partitions. install windows 7 first on one, then ubuntu on the other
[10:50] <sjakie-> if it does not work out of the box you can edit the grub menu and enter the windows 7 entry
[10:50] <ionut> ok,and if i have the ubuntu 8.04 and i want to make an upgrate it still works,isn't that ?
[10:50] <sjakie-> you mean dualboot still works?
[10:50] <sjakie-> if so yes
[10:50] <ionut> ya
[10:51] <ionut> ok,than thx
[10:51] <ionut> do u know how can i make upgrate ?
[10:51] <ionut> to ubuntu 8.10?
[10:51] <sjakie-> open a shell and run do-release-upgrade
[10:52] <ionut> this command will upgrate my ubuntu 8.04 to ubuntu 8.10?
[10:52] <sjakie-> yep
[10:52] <ionut> ok,thx man
[10:53] <ionut> sjakie-: when i run that command it comes out "No new release found"
[10:53] <poyntz> when i click on menu items, folder links, etc. they do not open. to open folders i have to be in dolphin/konqueror. how do i set the folder default from "none" to dolphin ?
[10:56] <sjakie-> ionut, edit /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[10:56] <sjakie-> in that file you will find "Prompt=lts"
[10:56] <sjakie-> change that to "Prompt=normal"
[10:57] <sjakie-> if you run do-release-upgrade after that it will upgrade to 8.10
[10:58] <ionut> sjakie-: wow it works ,thx so much
[10:59] <sjakie-> np
[12:01] <funcrush> when I hit the alt+Tab, it doesn't effect to other desktop, but i want to it effect to all desktop. how can i do it?
[12:03] <jc0694> i need help finding minimzed windows... i don't see them in the system tray.  i know they are there because when i hit alt-tab i see them but i don't like doing it this way... aren't minimized windows supposed to show in the system tray?
[12:04] <funcrush> system tray?
[12:05] <funcrush> or working manager?
[12:06] <jc0694> i think it's called the system tray... at the bottom of the desktop
[12:07] <jc0694> it's a widget called "system tray"... says you can access hidden applications minimzed
[12:07] <jc0694> but i don't see minimized windows in there... it should be a repository for minimized windows right?
[12:08] <funcrush> jc0694: sorry my english is poor
[12:08] <jc0694> as an example... i open konqueror web browser right? then i hit the down error in upper right hand corner of the window to minimize and the window disappears.  how do i bring this window back?  it should be down in the system tray right?
[12:09] <funcrush> jc0694: when a window is minimized, the window are stay working manager.
[12:09] <funcrush> not system tray
[12:09] <jc0694> working manager... is that a widget that i need to add to the desktop?
[12:09] <funcrush> yup... u should add into desktop or panel
[12:10] <funcrush> my local system is not English so i don't know the name exactly
[12:13] <jc0694> funcrush, how come i don't see working manager as an available widget to add?
[12:13] <funcrush> wait
[12:14] <funcrush> jc0694: can u see this? http://dl.dropbox.com/u/989955/1.png
[12:15] <funcrush> find a widget, the same icon
[12:15] <funcrush> and add it into ur pannel
[12:16] <jc0694> bingo... it's called task manager
[12:16] <funcrush> yup!!
[12:16] <funcrush> right! g
[12:17] <jc0694> i don't know why kubuntu would default to not include that as a widget installed at startup... that's like one of the most important widgets u could include by default... sheesh!  i spent like 3 days trying to figure this out... thank you
[12:18] <funcrush> jc0694: it is default setting...
[12:18] <funcrush> maybe something was wrong. anyway did u solve it?
[12:19] <jc0694> yep... many thanks
[12:19] <funcrush> :)
[12:20] <filthpig> Hi all. I've installed Kubuntu 9.10 on a laptop, and had to fix the wireless drivers manually. I've had some problems with the driver not working (possibly after updates), and suspect this is due to me doing stuff manually instead of compiling the sucker (it threw some errors at me, while the manual copy/paste/depmod/modprobe-solution worked. (this is the exact recipe I followed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/401126/com
[12:23] <Peace-> filthpig: ?
[12:23] <Peace-> so...
[12:23] <Peace-> your problem is wifi ?
[12:31] <filthpig> Peace-: yeah. The wireless connection just died and stayed dead. So I'm guessing my manual approach of copy/paste etc led to some kind of breakage when the kernel was updated. However, I've now managed to compile the driver properly and everything works atm, so I hope it's the end of my issues. I'm just asking, trying to learn from this if something like it should happen again, or if I need to help somebody later on..
[12:32] <Peace-> filthpig: generally when you have to do something on the kernel when you upgrade kernel youhave to re-do what you have doen
[12:32] <Peace-> done
[12:32] <filthpig> Peace, even if the driver was compiled properly?
[12:33] <Peace-> new kernel :)
[12:34] <filthpig> And I'm only thinking about *ubuntu-related kernel updates, like moving from 2.6.31-15-generic to 2.6.31-17-generic (hypothetic kernel names)
[12:36] <filthpig> I'm not talking about a whole new kernel like 2.6.32 or anything
[12:37] <filthpig> bah, gotta go. Work on a sunday, no rest for the wicked.
[12:39] <krzd> hi
[12:40] <krzd> i have got a asus supremefx card on my asus maximus iii formula, and in the beginning i had only stereo sound. then i installed the driver by asus and now i don't have any sound. what to do?
[12:42] <krzd> at least to reset the settings, so that i can hear stereo insted of nothing. make uninstall on the asus driver didn't work
[12:43] <jc0694> funcrush... you there?
[12:46] <jc0694> how do u talk to somebody in irc where it shows their name followed by a colon... funcrush was doing this with me see above... sometimes he would talk to me regularly and other times it would have my nick followed by a colon... it also flashes browser promting me the other way... how do you do this?
[12:46] <bittin^> Hello anyone know how i do a list off my installed Debian packages with dpkg into a textfile?
[12:46] <Goliath> hi
[12:46] <Goliath> i got a problem with okular, it says could not open file (when i try to open a pdf)
[12:47] <jc0694> it also changes the color
[12:49] <jc0694> anybody?
[12:50] <Peace-> 1 moment
[12:50] <Goliath> HEY
[12:50] <Peace-> jc0694: which file?
[12:50] <Goliath> okular problem
[12:50] <Goliath> could not open file
[12:50] <Goliath> (pdf)
[12:50] <lrdofnightmares> Hello guys!!! Long time no see!! How you've been?
[12:51] <krzd> bittin^: dpkg-query -l | grep ii > list.txt
[12:51] <jc0694> no... just like that:  when u just spoke to me the color changed and it turned red... my name shows followed by a colon
[12:51] <Peace-> Goliath: so maybe it's a damaged file
[12:52] <jc0694> is it just the nickname followed by a colon then the message?... i want to use this because sometimes you say things and people don't know who you are talking to in this irc chat
[12:52] <krzd> bittin^: but it's a bit more than just an package list. it's with version, description ---
[12:52] <jc0694> jc0694: testing
[12:52] <bittin^> krzd: thats ok :)
[12:53] <Goliath> Peace-: no i tried many, it may be a kdelib problem or pdf lib
[12:53] <jc0694> no that didnt' work... does anybody understand what I'm asking?
[12:53] <Peace-> Goliath: could yoiu post me this file?
[12:53] <Peace-> somewhere
[12:53] <lrdofnightmares> Guys i have a big problem...my pc after a while crashes...i am using ubuntu and ubuntu studio 9.04...why is this happening?? can anyone help me??
[12:54] <Goliath> Peace-: i tried many pdfs, so its not a corrupted file thats the problem
[12:54] <Peace-> Goliath: mm
[12:54] <Goliath> kdelibs or popper problem
[12:54] <Peace-> Goliath: upgraded to kde 4.4?
[12:54] <Goliath> maybe
[12:54] <Goliath> yes
[12:54] <Peace-> ah
[12:54] <krzd> lrdofnightmares: it would be easier with some more information, since when does the problem exist etc.
[12:54] <Peace-> well then...
[12:54] <Peace-> you know
[12:55] <lrdofnightmares> krzd: After about 15 minutes it just crashes and always when i try to do updates
[12:55] <bittin^> http://bittin.linuxuser.se/HilleLinuxpackages.txt got it to work :)
[12:56] <krzd> lrdofnightmares: is this since you installed ubuntu?
[12:56] <jc0694> anybody available to help... i got a really simple question
[12:56] <Goliath> tell me
[12:56] <Goliath> an okular alternative
[12:56] <Goliath> to try for test
[12:56] <krzd> jc0694: just ask instead of asking if you may ask
[12:57] <jc0694> i have but nobody responds
[12:57] <lrdofnightmares> krzd: Yeah, first i thought that it might be compiz that made the pc crash but well...it wasn't
[12:57] <krzd> jc0694: oh sorry, i haven't seen^^
[12:57] <Wolfcastle> hello
[12:58] <Wolfcastle> I have a little problem with kmix, it tends to stick around after changing the volume
[12:58] <jc0694> how do u write to me in irc where you adress me specifically.  it turns what you say a different color so i know you are targeting me.
[12:58] <Wolfcastle> i.e. I click the icon, change the volume, clic something else and the volume changer does not dissapear
[12:58] <jc0694> it will also flash my browser when minimized so i know somebody is adressing me
[12:58] <jc0694> i need to know how to do this
[12:59] <Wolfcastle> depends on your client
[12:59] <Erod> jc0694: It's an IRC client feature. Nothing you can do about other's setups.
[12:59] <krzd> jc0694: just type the nickname followed by a double point, e.g. nick: in some clients you don't need the double point
[12:59] <krzd> jc0694: some clients got an auto completion feature if you type tab
[13:00] <krzd> *press tab
[13:01] <jc0694> hmmm... is that also something specific to a certain channel... i've tried to do this from a different client to myself but have been unable to get it to work
[13:01] <krzd> jc0694: normally only client specific
[13:02] <krzd> is there nobody who got knowledge about hd-audio under linux?
[13:03] <jc0694> krzd:  does this message change color for you since i've put your nick first followed by colon?
[13:03] <krzd> jc0694: yeah
[13:03] <jc0694> krzd, what about this?
[13:03] <krzd> jc0694: yep
[13:04] <krzd> lrdofnightmares: does compiz work with kde?
[13:04] <jc0694> krzd and this?
[13:04] <krzd> jc0694: yes, sir xD
[13:04] <jc0694> jc0694, test
[13:05] <krzd> jc0694: but i don't think that it will work with the own nick
[13:05] <jc0694> it's just weird... i use another irc client to send myself a message to this screen and it doesn't change the color
[13:06] <jc0694> i have a different nick on the other irc client
[13:06] <krzd> jc0694:  in public or query?
[13:06] <jc0694> what do you mean by public or query?
[13:07] <krzd> jc0694: do you send a private message or in a channel readable for all
[13:07] <jtheuer> Hi, I connected my bluetooth headset and got a confirmation beep - should it be somewhere listed as music device? (kmix?)
[13:07] <jc0694> in this place where we are chatting right now... where this exact message is posting
[13:08] <krzd> jc0694: then it is strange
[13:08] <krzd> jc0694: i have got no ideas
[13:11] <bob4960> jc0694 testing
[14:06] <millun> is it hassle free to upgrade 9.04 -> 9.10?
[14:06] <millun> just wondering
[14:08] <Peace-> millun: you can upgrade but it there could be some problems ...
[14:08] <Peace-> try before a live cd
[14:08] <millun> i got 3GB FUP
[14:09] <millun> i don't wanna download more than absolutely needed
[14:10] <Peace-> don't speak like that 3gb of waht?
[14:10] <Peace-> fup
[14:10] <Peace-> omg this young guys
[14:10] <soee_> :}
[14:10] <Peace-> -s
[14:11] <jtheuer_> Hi, I connected my bluetooth headset and got a confirmation beep - should it be somewhere listed as music device? (like kmix?)
[14:12] <millun> w00t? 3GB `fair user policy`
[14:12] <millun> when i reach the limit, my bandwidth will be like 3kB/s...
[14:13] <millun> for that case i've rooted my G1... so i'll be tethering from my phone :)
[14:23] <CupofDice> Anyone here have a Fiber optic connection and does it show up in Manage Connections (lower right taskbar)?
[14:23] <Jonathan___> hello everyone... i would like to do a fresh install of both kubuntu karmic and windows 7 x64.   I am unsure about my partitions.  Surely they should have about 20GB each for the OS then a combined share for the data... is this correct?
[14:24] <CupofDice> If you want it that way Jonathan. The shared partition with be fat 32, right?
[14:26] <edouard> Hi, I have a problem with my wifi connexion. Can someone help me ?
[14:27] <shadeslayer_> Jonathan___: yes that is the most efficient way
[14:27] <shadeslayer_> edouard: go ahead and state your problem
[14:27] <edouard> I am on ubuntu 9.10 and I use knetwork-manager
[14:28] <Jonathan___> so then i was planing on doing a fresh install of windows 7 x64.  full format the HDD.  then do a fresh install of kubuntu
[14:28] <shadeslayer_> edouard: ok and whats the exact problem with the connection
[14:28] <edouard> when I enter the passphrase, it doesn't work
[14:28] <Jonathan___> but what way to i install kubuntu to give me the desired setup ??
[14:29] <edouard> i don't know it is written "activation" indefinitely
[14:29] <shadeslayer_> Jonathan___: ok do this : install windows,set up 3 partitions with the disk manager in windows,install kubuntu by using the advanced disk mode in the kubuntu installation
[14:29] <shadeslayer_> edouard: hmm,well which encryption method?
[14:30] <Jonathan___> advanced disk mode...?
[14:30] <edouard> wpa
[14:30] <shadeslayer_> Jonathan___: yes,in the install itll ask you to set up partitons... select the advanced mode
[14:32] <shadeslayer_> edouard: install wicd
[14:32] <shadeslayer_> edouard: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1233171
[14:33] <Jonathan___> windoze disk manager:
[14:33] <Jonathan___> part1: windows7 20GB
[14:33] <Jonathan___> part2: kubuntu     20GB
[14:33] <Jonathan___> part3: data            Rest of GB
[14:33] <Jonathan___> then when installing choose the advanced one and pick part 2 to install karmic... the data partition will be in NTFS then?
[14:33] <FloodBotK1> Jonathan___: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:34] <shadeslayer_> Jonathan___: depends on what you select... you can set it to fat32 from windows or from the kubuntu installer
[14:35] <Jonathan___> does that make sense?
[14:35] <edouard> but i don't know if the passphrase responsible, because I also tried to connect without any security, and it doesn't work as well
[14:35] <Jonathan___> sry i got disconnected
[14:36] <Jonathan___> hello??
[14:38] <shadeslayer_> oh he left :P... i was gone for a moment
[14:39] <shadeslayer_> edouard: ok well the problem is with knetworkmanager.... its a wip app
[14:39] <shadeslayer_> edouard: wicd is a better network manager... as is nm-applet
[14:40] <edouard> okay i installed it
[14:40] <shadeslayer_> edouard: you need to restart the pc for it to get working
[14:41] <shadeslayer_> edouard: it should start automatically after that,but if it doesnt,press alt+F2 and type wicd
[14:44] <shadeslayer_> edouard: so did it work?
[15:06] <mindaugas> hey all why i cant write my psw in konsole when trying chmod file (sudo chmod a+x)
[15:06] <shadeslayer_> mindaugas: its a security feature,there is input
[15:07] <shadeslayer_> mindaugas: the password is just not displayed
[15:07] <mindaugas> ya but im trying to write it
[15:07] <mindaugas> and i cant
[15:07] <mindaugas> oh
[15:07] <mindaugas> i will try
[15:07] <shadeslayer_> mindaugas: yeah so it is being taken as input...
[15:07] <mindaugas> ^^
[15:07] <shadeslayer_> mindaugas: just not being shown :P
[15:08] <mindaugas> oh there is more problem
[15:08] <mindaugas> i downloaded program
[15:08] <mindaugas> and i press that file which run it
[15:08] <mindaugas> but it open with kate
[15:08] <mindaugas> when i open it with konsole
[15:08] <mindaugas> it dont do anything :/
[15:08] <mindaugas> sry for english
[15:08] <shadeslayer_> mindaugas: what programme?
[15:08] <mindaugas> oh not programe , but game :D
[15:08] <mindaugas> worldofgoo or smth xD
[15:09] <shadeslayer_> mindaugas: if its something ending in .sh then do : chmod a+x name_of_file.sh : and then : ./name_of_file.sh
[15:10] <shadeslayer_> mindaugas: other than that no idea....
[15:10] <mindaugas> oh damn i tried to chmod .bin file :D
[15:10] <mindaugas> ty wm
[15:10] <shadeslayer_> mindaugas: ah its a .bin file... well it should run by itself..
[15:11] <shadeslayer_> mindaugas: try running it in a konsole
[15:11] <mindaugas> u know .sh file must open that bin cuz in sh file is string "exec ./file.bin
[15:12] <mindaugas> and when im trying to open that bin it will begin extract but drop error
[15:13] <shadeslayer_> mindaugas: well i would suggest that you read any instructions that came along with that game
[15:13] <mindaugas> there is any instructions, i just downloaded archive extract it and im trying to play but cant
[15:14] <mindaugas> it's like firefox
[15:14] <mindaugas> archive
[15:15] <mindaugas> ech whatever.. :D
[15:28] <tobias> Hi
[15:29] <Guest74557> how to deactivate ipv6 in kubuntu 9.1? konqueror and co dosent load any pages
[15:42] <Xand3r> how can i move a partition out of an extended partition
[15:46] <delight> sftp is not working for me in dolphin kde sc 4.4 beta 1 ... is this only happening in lucid or is this an kde 4.4 beta 1 problem ?
[15:47] <shadeslayer> Xand3r: without formatting it?
[15:47] <delight> apparently there is no kubuntu+1 channel for the momment ... I'll ask in ubuntu+1 ;)
[15:47] <shadeslayer> delight: ubuntu+1 is a common channel
[15:48] <delight> shadeslayer: you mean for lucid in general right ?
[15:48] <shadeslayer> Xand3r: btw your i think your site is down or something.... i tried to download the playwolf plasmoid but couldnt open the site
[15:48] <shadeslayer> delight: yep
[15:49] <delight> shadeslayer: did you install kde 4.4 beta 1 + can u use sftp:// urls in dolphin ?
[15:50] <shadeslayer> delight: didnt try sftp.. give me a link and ill try
[16:01] <delight> shadeslayer: you can connect against any ssh-server even your localhost if ssh-server is installed ... the url would be sftp://localhost in that case
[16:01] <delight> dolphin was able to do that in kde 3.3
[16:02] <shadeslayer> delight: nah... says invalid protocol
[16:03] <shadeslayer> delight: ask in #kde for more info... maybe its a hidden option somwhere
[16:50] <franci> Alguem do brasil?
[16:51] <Vroomfondle> !br
[17:16] <bibii> good night!
[17:17] <Anita> newer versions of kubuntu will not boot up on my pc...help
[17:17] <bibii> Who does what?
[17:18] <Anita> the disks are good, the work on other pc
[17:18] <Anita> they*
[17:18] <bibii> извините за мой английский
[17:18] <bibii> sorry for my English
[17:18] <chris_> what version of kde does kubuntu use?
[17:18] <ghostcube> depends on what relese u stay
[17:19] <chris_> 9.10
[17:19] <ghostcube> 4.3.2
[17:19] <chris_> also can i keep my dads ubuntu crud out of my kde
[17:19] <ghostcube> but check it open an kde app and go to help
[17:19] <ghostcube> and about kde
[17:19] <Anita> i can get kubuntu 9.4 to boot but 9.10 won't
[17:19] <bibii> I cant install ATI driver on 9.10
[17:20] <chris_> Anita, i hate when bugs like that happens :( i use to be only able to use 7.04 till 8.10 came out :\
[17:20] <Anita> i tried fedora 12 also
[17:20] <chris_> ghostcube, if i install kubuntu-desktop will i be stuck with all the gnome crud?
[17:20] <Anita> but no luck there either
[17:21] <Anita> only ubuntu 8 and kubuntu 9.4 will boot
[17:21] <chris_> whats the error?
[17:22] <ghostcube> chris_: some gnome things are needed so it wont do you any harm to keep them
[17:22] <Anita> it boots up to windows instead of disk
[17:23] <Anita> does anyone have some help with this issue?
[17:24] <mendred> Anita: u are trying to boot up with the live cd correct?
[17:25] <Anita> no dont think
[17:25] <Anita> whats the differerence in them
[17:25] <mendred> the live cd is what u use to install kubuntu
[17:25] <Anita> would it say live
[17:26] <mendred> ummm the live cd is the kubuntu installation cd that u download
[17:26] <mendred> it does a full boot sequence
[17:26] <mendred> so are u able to boot up from there?
[17:26] <Anita> ok it's the disk i burned for kubuntu
[17:27] <mendred> yes
[17:27] <Anita> it works on another pc
[17:27] <Anita> only the older versions will work
[17:27] <Anita> to boot
[17:28] <Anita> the disk is good
[17:28] <Anita> so i don't know why it boots on one pc but not the other
[17:28] <mendred> ok so u have a livecd of kubuntu 9.10 it loads in another PC but doesn't load in one particular PC
[17:28] <mendred> so the live cd is good
[17:28] <mendred> next question
[17:28] <Anita> yes true
[17:29] <mendred> u mentioned that it directly boots to windows
[17:29] <mendred> so i am guessing ur PC is set up for booting in sequence
[17:29] <Anita> yes with the newer version of kubuntu
[17:29] <mendred> i.e. something like CD first and then Hdd?
[17:29] <Anita> the older versions boot up
[17:30] <mendred> ok so the sequence is fine then
[17:30] <Anita> its set for disk first
[17:30] <Anita> yes
[17:31] <chris_> what is better?, kdm or gdm?
[17:33] <Kolia> hi
[17:33] <Kolia> is qt creator 1.3 is available in Kubuntu?
[17:34] <mendred> Anita: a quick question, what model PC is this?
[17:34] <mendred> and what is the arch of the CD?
[17:34] <mendred> what i am trying to check is the CD the 64 bit CD
[17:34] <mendred> which is being booted on a 32 bit PC?
[17:35] <mendred> if ur other PC is a modern arch
[17:35] <delight> Kolia: in lucid its still 1.2.1
[17:35] <mendred> then it would explain the CD booting up properly there
[17:35] <delight> Kolia: but I guess it will get an upgrade eventually
[17:36] <mendred> say for e.g. trying to boot up a 64 bit distro on a P4 would probably error out
[17:36] <delight> Kolia: in karmic not ... but you can install the version of the website anytime
[17:36] <Kolia> delight: ok that is what i was thinking, thanks for your answer
[17:37] <Kolia> delight: but not sure i can only download qt creator, looks like i have to download the whole SDK
[17:37] <Kolia> delight: but i don't want qt, just qt-creator
[17:37] <Kolia> let's try..
[17:38] <bibii> !register bibii
[17:39] <Anita> its a built pc
[17:39] <mendred> ok cool..which chip is this?
[17:40] <mendred> before that is the CD the standard one or the one for 64 bit ?
[17:40] <Anita> omg i just realized what the prob is
[17:41] <Anita> dvd's dont' work on that pc
[17:41] <Anita> only cds
[17:41] <Anita> :O
[17:41] <mendred> :)
[17:41] <mendred> was that a dvd on a CD drive then?
[17:41] <mendred> ok cool :)
[17:42] <Anita> yes the newer versions are on dvd
[17:42] <Anita> and that pc is only cd
[17:42] <Anita> so if i burned cds it would work
[17:43] <mendred> yes i guess so
[17:43] <Anita> k then there is still hope lol
[17:43] <mendred> have fun then :)
[17:43] <Anita> thanks
[17:43] <mendred> wc
[17:51] <natch_> :)
[17:55] <znika> please may you tell me how to use printer canon mf4010 on ubuntu 9.10 ?
[17:55] <Zorael> It is possible to make certain widgets show while the screen saver/lock screen is showing, right? How do I do this?
[17:56] <hagabaka> is it known that krita-kde4 on kubuntu-beta ppa depends on libkdcraw7 but kdegraphics-strigi-plugins on the same ppa depend on libkdcraw8?
[18:09] <Kolia> Zorael: try asking on #plasma
[18:22] <njathan> any ideas how to get the apt protocol working on kubuntu 9.04? all 'working' solutions point to installing packages that  also get gnome packages along (which may not be used for anything other than this otherwise)
[18:35] <what_if> What is a good KDE graphical equivalent to netstat ? It there such a program?
[18:56] <apparle> hello guys
[18:56] <DaskReEch> Hi
[18:57] <DaskReEch> apparle: You were asking something in #kubuntu-devel the other night?
[18:58] <apparle> DaskReEch: yes.... who decides what is the xplash, wallpaper etc. for kubuntu
[18:58] <DaskReEch> Ah well ,, actually easier to discuss in #kubuntu-devel
[19:00] <DaskReEch> apparle: if you want to you can jump in over there
[19:00] <what_if> Has anyone found a reference for creating/programming ksysguard tabs?
[19:00] <apparle> DaskReEch: well actually I was thinking with ubuntu moved on to a different splash screen... why not design a better one for kubuntu
[19:01] <DaskReEch> True
[19:05] <apparle> DaskReEch: so I was wondering who decides what will be all these stuff
[19:07] <millun_> hi
[19:07] <apparle> DaskReEch: see the las post by evalin in the thread http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3108696.0
[19:08] <millun_> i got my phone for usb tethering.... i've modified firewall rules for masquerade but it won't work
[19:08] <millun_> iptables --table nat --append POSTROUTING --out-interface usb0 -j MASQUERADE
[19:08] <millun_> iptables --append FORWARD --in-interface eth0 -j ACCEPT
[19:11] <soee> hi
[19:12] <DaskReEch> hi millun_
[19:12] <DaskReEch> hi soee
[19:13] <millun_> hi
[19:14] <DaskReEch> apparle: Looking
[19:15] <millun> the firewall commands were working for PPP0, but not for USB0?
[19:15] <millun> any apparent reasons why?
[19:17] <millun> also, while you are at helping one desperate lamer... :) how should i restart my Phonon daemon? whenever i try to play something in amarok, it tells me about how the device failed, that it is going back to some old device.
[19:17] <apparle> !firewall
[19:17] <apparle> which firewall should I use for kubuntu
[19:18] <DaskReEch> apparle: iptables ?
[19:18] <DaskReEch> millun: because tethering works differently I think
[19:18] <DaskReEch> I'm not sure though I could be wrong :)
[19:18] <millun> ah ok
[19:20] <apparle> DaskReEch: so where should I begin to setup the firewall
[19:22] <soee> do u know hiw can i fix this weather widget - i cant pick any location wrom wetter.com :/
[19:27] <chuyzoz> Hello all, how can i install kubuntu over an existing ubuntu installation  ? i want to presever my windows partition
[19:27] <chuyzoz> should i first delete the ubuntu partition and then install kubuntu on top of it ?
[19:27] <maco> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:27] <maco> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[19:27] <chuyzoz> isn't a clean install better ?
[19:28] <maco> youll get to keep all your stuff this way
[19:28] <briancron> chuyzoz: Yeah, I would do a clean install and manually set the partitions to your current partitions
[19:28] <maco> and as its new software, you dont have to worry about old configs hanging aroudn for those same apps
[19:28] <maco> if you wanna remove *all* gnome apps too...
[19:28] <maco> !puregnome
[19:28] <maco> er...
[19:28] <chuyzoz> i don't have anything in the ubuntu... i installed it about 2 hours ago .. and concluded i prefer kubuntu
[19:28] <maco> !purekde
[19:28] <maco> thats he one i meant
[19:28] <maco> *the
[19:28] <FloodBotK1> maco: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:29] <chuyzoz> briancron ... i know what you mean
[19:29] <chuyzoz> but
[19:29] <chuyzoz> i'm a noob .. ( of course) ... to manually set the partitins
[19:29] <chuyzoz> i just need a ext3 and swap drive right?
[19:29] <chuyzoz> swap partition?
[19:29] <briancron> chuyzoz: no your partitions are set now
[19:30] <maco> when you install, instead of choosing guided partitioning, choose manual
[19:30] <maco> itll automatically detec the swap one
[19:30] <briancron> chuyzoz: you just make sure you don't let kubuntu install to decide. manually install and then just use the existing paritions
[19:30] <chuyzoz> so the swap one can remain the same ..
[19:30] <maco> you then select the current root ext3 partition, hit edit, and tell it to keep using it as ext3 and to mount it at /
[19:30] <chuyzoz> but the / ? would i need to delete that one an create a new one  ?
[19:30] <TheJudger> Can I change from KDE to Gnome... if I can what i have to do ? I have Kubuntu 9.10 Netbook edition
[19:30] <maco> chuyzoz: no need to remove the partition, just use the same one
[19:30] <chuyzoz> lol... and here i'm changing from gnome to kde
[19:30] <briancron> chuyzoz: no need to delete the old one, just use it and select format
[19:30] <chuyzoz> okay
[19:31] <maco> !purgenome | TheJudger
[19:31] <chuyzoz> so .. format then okay
[19:31] <maco> !puregnome | TheJudger
[19:31] <chuyzoz> what exactly does mounting it do?
[19:31] <chuyzoz> like "mount at /"
[19:31] <maco> chuyzoz: meh. dont even need to format really. doesnt matter.
[19:31] <apparle> someone plz tell me how to setup firewall
[19:31] <maco> chuyzoz: mounting is what makes a drive usable
[19:31] <apparle> !firewall
[19:32] <maco> chuyzoz: if its not mounted, you cant use it. so itll ask "mountpoint: ______" and have a dropdown. choose "/"
[19:32] <apparle> which one should I use ufw of iptables
[19:32] <Peace-> apparle: have you a router?
[19:32] <maco> apparle: ufw is an easy wrapper for iptables
[19:32] <chuyzoz> okay ... and i've read i also need to specify a home ?
[19:32] <Peace-> apparle: if you have a router you can use that and stop
[19:32] <maco> chuyzoz: no you dont
[19:32] <chuyzoz> okay
[19:32] <maco> chuyzoz: /home is a directory under /
[19:32] <maco> chuyzoz: its like C:\Documents and Settings\
[19:33] <chuyzoz> so it should be straightforward cool.. just wanted to check here...  before went ahead and did it
[19:33] <apparle> Peace-: I am using university LAN connection and have internet over proxy
[19:33] <chuyzoz> so .. swap shouldn't need to be changed .. i just need to mount it on the existing one
[19:33] <chuyzoz> and what does the swap partition do ?
[19:33] <maco> chuyzoz: its where the contents of ram go when you hibernate, and its where stuff goes when youve got more running than can fit in ram
[19:33] <Peace-> apparle: bah i am on linux here since 2006 and... i have not firewall i get only a router .. if you are on lan i think you can leave firewall stuff
[19:33] <maco> it gets "swapped" out to disk
[19:34] <chuyzoz> oh .. makes sense
[19:34] <maco> Peace-: only if the router has a firewall built in
[19:34] <apparle> Peace-: thanks
[19:34] <chuyzoz> i figured that would be part of the main partition
[19:34] <Peace-> maco: well every good router has one .. then
[19:34] <maco> Peace-: and even still, you might not trust the other folks on your side of the router
[19:34] <maco> Peace-: apparle said uni lan. what if someone in apparle's uni is a jerk?
[19:34] <Peace-> omg who spend a lots of his time to crack your silly sistem maco?
[19:34] <maco> the router's firewall isnt going to protect you then
[19:35] <apparle> maco: so what do you recommend on LAN.......I agree some... ppl are jerks here
[19:35] <maco> apparle: ufw is easier to configure on command line than iptables is. gufw is a easy gui
[19:37] <apparle> maco: I have never used a firewall in linux.... in windows.. it just says <program> is trying to access internet... do you want to allow etc. .... Is it that simple here?
[19:37] <Peace-> maco: ... if i am on uni i think i will spend my time to study and i will not spend 1 week to crack a system
[19:37] <maco> apparle: ufw and gufw only do the inbound firewall
[19:38] <maco> apparle: that would be a question for an outbound firewall
[19:38] <maco> Peace-: obviously not in an engineering school
[19:38] <ionut> can anyone give me the ubuntu irc ?
[19:38] <maco> ionut: #ubuntu
[19:38] <ionut> thx
[19:38] <maco> apparle: by default *buntu has no services running listening on any ports. so as long as you dont install anything like an ssh server, mail server, or web server, nobody can make a connection to any services on your system
[19:39] <Peace-> maco: 3 year here on my university none has done nothing
[19:39] <apparle> maco: cool....
[19:39] <maco> apparle: so really, you dont have to worry unless youve got something listening. windows has plenty of services listening by default so having one is more crucial there
[19:39] <njathan> any ideas how to get the apt protocol working on kubuntu 9.04? all 'working' solutions point to installing packages that  also get gnome packages along (which may not be used for anything other than this otherwise)
[19:39] <apparle> maco: so right now I think I'll not use any password...
[19:39] <apparle> maco: sorry .... firewall
[19:40] <maco> apparle: if you want to do outbound firewalling...well, thats going to require actually using iptables which is a bit harder. its also a bit silly since any smart hacker is going to have their malware go over port 80 because *nobody* blocks port 80...port 80 is web browsing
[19:40] <njathan> should i go the apturl way?
[19:40] <apparle> maco: :)
[19:40] <maco> njathan: is there an apturl-kde package?
[19:40] <Peace-> maco: if you are an hacker you don t crack you buddy system ... you crack server damn...
[19:41] <Peace-> maco: call them with the right name .
[19:41] <njathan> maco: i cannot find one for 9.04 in the usual repos
[19:41] <Peace-> lamer
[19:41] <maco> Peace-: not everyone who goes to school together is buddies :P might be playing a prank on a kid you hate
[19:41] <maco> and yeah you're right, if its without authorization it's a cracker
[19:42] <maco> njathan: then might have to go with ubufox i guess
[19:43] <njathan> ubufox is the one that forces me to install lot of gnome packages... something i dont want to do unless absolutely necessry
[19:48] <maco> njathan: i dont know any other way
[19:48] <maco> njathan: you could also just not use apturl
[19:49] <njathan> maco: right... i rather not :-P
[19:49] <estuis> shakaw
[19:56] <njathan> i am not getting any sound in firefox on any of the video sites... any ideas?
[19:57] <njathan> i thought it was a flash problem... hence removed the one installed with apt-get and installed a deb available for 8.04+ manually on my 9.04 system
[19:57] <njathan> problem still persists
[20:02] <djustice> njathan: checked kmix/alsamixer for muted channels? flash liek to use weird sound channels...
[20:03] <njathan> djustice: whops.. fixed! thanks!
[20:05] <djustice> njathan: :)
[20:12] <apparle> njathan: which channel was it using
[20:12] <njathan> apparle: PCM
[20:13] <njathan> apparle: strangely, audio on amarok worked fine with zero on PCM channel
[20:13] <njathan> isn't system sound also supposed to depend on PCM?
[20:13] <apparle> njathan: strange.... if I mute PCM... I can't hear anything
[20:23] <factotum> I've been reading up on different distro's and their KDE implimentations. A lot of people seem to suggest opensuse for a KDE desktop, saying they do a better intigration. I personaly don't get that. Are they just saying that everyone else is using a more vanilla KDE setup? If that's the case I think I would rather prefer it over some over tweaked mess.
[20:26] <factotum> I'm not looking to poke fun at all, don't get me wrong. Just getting bored with Gnome and really like Ubuntu so I thought I would see if there are any "gotcha's" for Kubuntu when starting out. I gave 9.04 a go for an afternoon but had some issues with freeze up's or apps just not starting and a problem with keeping a wireless connection up and running.
[20:26] <factotum> okay im shutting up lol, sorry
[20:26] <ocni49> help
[20:27] <ocni49> messieurs dames bonsoir
[20:27] <apparle> ocni49: !any
[20:27] <apparle> !any
[20:27] <ocni49> j'ai besoin de votre aide
[20:27] <ocni49> si il y a quelqu'un de français...
[20:29] <maco> apparle: most of the actual devs arent in #alsa, but yes, thatd be a bug to report
[20:29] <apparle> maco: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/498863
[20:29] <maco> apparle: on the other hand, i find alsa maintainers are more receptive to patches sent to the mailing list than attached to bugs
[20:29] <maco> looking
[20:30] <maco> im actually trying to debug my sound right now
[20:30] <apparle> maco: what's the problem... maybe I could help
[20:31] <apparle> how to view mht files.... I received some as attachments
[20:31] <maco> im just trying to figure out the right quirk
[20:31] <maco> figured out a while back a quirk that works better than nothing, but its still not quite right
[20:31] <maco> what is a mht file?
[20:31] <maco> helps if you say what kind of program its for
[20:32] <apparle> maco: I think its a webpage saved using IE7 onwards
[20:32] <maco> O_o no idea then
[20:32] <maco> if theyre saving as something other than .html, im not sure any browser other than ie can open it
[20:33] <apparle> anyone else here..... MHT files
[20:34] <soee> do u know hiw can i fix this weather widget? - i cant pick any location wrom wetter.com :/
[20:37] <Crisss> any help.. how to change from ubuntu gnome.. to Kubuntu ? KDE ver
[20:38] <apparle> Crisss: do you want fresh Kubuntu or KDE over ubuntu
[20:38] <Crisss> Kde over ubuntu
[20:39] <DaskReEch> factotum: try kubuntu since you are on UBuntu If you don't like it then try OpenSuse
[20:39] <apparle> Crisss: install the package kubuntu-desktop
[20:39] <DaskReEch> Crisss: install th package kubuntu-desktop
[20:40] <DaskReEch> factotum: The major difference from your experience is more likely to be the packaging system than the Desktop changes
[20:43] <Crisss> yeah.. but is a command from console.... sudo apt-get remove (here i dont remember) ....  and sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ..... i have tried to do with synaptic .. but i get a black screen when i log in KDE ver... and no aplication available
[20:46] <Crisss> apparle: can u help me with that command? i dont remember sudo apt-get remove ******
[20:47] <apparle> Crisss: what are you trying to remove........... you only need to do 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[20:47] <apparle> maco: I found the app kmhtconvert it opens mht file
[20:47] <Crisss> i wanna quit gnome ver... and have kde
[20:48] <maco> !purekde | Crisss
[20:48] <Crisss> thanx
[20:49] <replman> Hi! Is there a console utility to record from microphone to a file?
[20:58] <apparle> replman: arecord
[20:59] <replman> apparle: thank you!
[21:00] <Crisss> apparle:  I have tried to remove Gnome ver like was on that link... but the problem is next... the first screen (where I log in) is KDE ver.. but after start is the same ver of gnome:(
[21:01] <maco> Crisss: there should be an options menu where you can choose the kde session instead of the gnome session
[21:02] <soee> Crisss: u have both gnome and kde now ?
[21:02] <Crisss> yeah
[21:02] <Crisss> both
[21:03] <Crisss> but is still a gnome desk
[21:03] <zeru> wowz nice ;]
[21:03] <soee> well i sugest to reinstall system if u have separated partition for /home and install clear kubuntu :)
[21:04] <Crisss> i do: sudo aptitude remove ubuntu-desktop .. after that i restarted.. and is the same gnome ver
[21:04] <zeru> i have a question ... i had a perfect installation 2 hours ago i even started skype etc  and i rebooted
[21:04] <||arifaX> Crisss: whats in /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[21:04] <zeru> when i rebooted grub said that ther is nothing on 000000000000-0000000000-00000000 or something like that and i couldn't boot the kubuntu
[21:06] <Crisss> ||arifaX: root@criss-linux:/etc/X11# cat default-display-manager
[21:06] <||arifaX> Crisss: nothing?
[21:07] <Crisss> ||arifaX: root@criss-linux:/etc/X11# cat default-display-manager ; /usr/bin/kdm
[21:07] <Crisss> this
[21:07] <||arifaX> Crisss: thats ok for KDE
[21:07] <Crisss> but the desk is knome now..
[21:08] <Crisss> i wanna go ack to kubuntu
[21:08] <Crisss> gnome*
[21:08] <tsimpson> you need to choose KDE from the menu before you login
[21:09] <||arifaX> Crisss: at the login screen there should be a button you can click to select KDE before logging in
[21:10] <Crisss> tsimpson: not well .. i have tried... but i get a black screen.. with no aplication on it.. i can do ctr+alt Delete, and logoff
[21:11] <cH40z-Lord> I'm running kubuntu 9.10 on my ASUS EeePC T91 and I've got a problem with my wlan... everytime I connect to my wifi-network the pc will crash after ~2-3mins with the original driver and immediatelly after "obtaining address" using the backport-packages as suggested at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193429 - any ideas ?
[21:13] <ofirk> Has someone encoutered this problem: http://www.violetech.org/screenshot2.png ?
[21:14] <ofirk> I am running kubuntu 9.10 with KDE 4.3 and latest updates, no pulseaudio installed
[21:23] <jnewt> i have suse / winxp on a laptop, i want to replace suse with kubuntu.  i have booted to a live cd, and i see that there are 4 partitions and a free space.  I am thinkin of installing on sda4 (i think it's suse) but i want to make sure.  I go to dolphin and it says the volumes are locked, can someone tell me how to verify that i am installing over suse?
[21:24] <jnewt> and, i am worried about f-ing up grub, so any advice on this would be great.
[21:37] <sergios> salve a tutti, mi sapete dire come entro nel canale di ubuntu?
[22:02] <oorah> how come in kpackage or whatever its called when i type what i'm looking for nothing shows up in the list?
[22:04] <soee>  oorah wrong package name or filter selected ?
[22:04] <oorah> soee, i typed flash, nothing showed in the list
[22:05] <soee> and ur filter is selected as Show all packages ?
[22:06] <oorah> soee, i just typed it just as i do in xubuntu
[22:09] <MoscowSindySho> hello, guys.  Say me please, what application help me to make Use Case diagrame for my project.   And help me to meke UML diagrams!!
[22:10] <MoscowSindySho> guys!   mondey is today!!!  lets work!
[22:16] <capt_blackwood> I just installed the KDE environment and i can't get internet access
[22:16]  * capt_blackwood is operating in xfce currently
[22:19] <ernie_de> hello
[22:20] <ernie_de> main language is english?
[22:20] <oorah> yes
[22:20] <oorah> how come in kpackage or whatever its called when i type what i'm looking for nothing shows up in the list?
[22:20] <oorah> in xfce and gnome i type somethin, it shows up in the list
[22:21] <ernie_de> can anybody tell me how to connect a pptp-connection? i set up the connection via the knetwork-manager, no problems so far. but i dont know how to connect the vpn-connection
[22:22] <ernie_de> i can even see the connection in the tray(?)
[22:24] <KyranBe> I've got a big problem
[22:24] <KyranBe> after installing last nights updates, my computer doesn't boot into linux anymore
[22:24] <KyranBe> no matter which kernel
[22:24] <KyranBe> windows boots fine
[22:24] <KyranBe> it gets stuck after the initrd line
[22:30] <Fn0rd> each time i try moving a folder to oen of my exteranl drives i keep getting "ERROR: malformed url"
[22:30] <oorah> how come in kpackage or whatever its called when i type what i'm looking for nothing shows up in the list?
[22:30] <oorah> in xfce and gnome i type somethin, it shows up in the list
[22:31] <Dragnslicer> oorah- what are you searching for?
[22:32] <Fn0rd> Im searching for inner peace and enlightenment sadly that isnt showing up in the list either.
[22:32] <oorah> flash, gxine, pidgin, etc
[22:32] <oorah> and nothing showed up when i typed stuff in the list
[22:35] <Dragnslicer> oorah- do you have "Find by Name" selected?
[22:36] <Galvatron> Hi
[22:36] <Galvatron> For sometime KpackageKit doesn't work
[22:37] <Galvatron> Whenever I click on .deb package, enter password and start installation, I get an aerror on the very beginning
[22:39] <Galvatron> It just says: "Sorry, an error occured." and thats all
[22:39] <Galvatron> No details
[22:39] <Galvatron> Reinstalling KpackageKit didn't help
[22:40] <Roasted> whats up guys
[22:40] <Galvatron> sudo dpkg -i works perfectly
[22:41] <Roasted> question - in quassel I have windows open from when people directly "IMed" me. How do I close them?
[22:42] <maco> right click
[22:42] <maco> hide temporarily or permanently
[22:42] <maco> temporarily means they come back when they talk to you again
[22:42] <maco> permanent hiding means if they talk to you, you dont see it
[22:42] <maco> or you can delete it
[22:43] <WilliamBuell> my cd/dvd drive drawer keeps opening no matter what i do, on my ubuntu machine.... what can i do from the desktop or terminal to close the drawer
[22:44] <Fn0rd>  each time i try moving a folder to one of my external drives i keep getting "ERROR: malformed url"  Any suggestions on how to fix this issue?
[22:47] <Galvatron> Problem solved by replacing KpackageKit with Gdebi
[22:48] <Galvatron> Bye
[23:05] <Fn0rd>  each time i try moving a folder to one of my external drives i keep getting "ERROR: malformed url"  Any suggestions on how to fix this issue?
[23:06] <soee> where can i fond widgets files (directory)?
[23:06] <islington> soee: you mean your plasma widgets?
[23:06] <soee> islington: yes
[23:07] <islington> /home/user/.kde/share/apps/plasma/
[23:08] <kjcole> Kubuntu Karmic and microphones, anyone?  (I can hear myself through the headset very, very loud, but it doesn't seem to use that to record, or send to Skype.)
[23:09] <kjcole> I've been through a lot of docs that tell me to fool with Phonon settings, PulseAudio settings, Skype settings, alsamixer, kmix, etc. I figure it's all just helped me dig a bigger hole.
[23:31] <dthacker> test
[23:33] <kjcole> dthacker: pass
[23:37] <dthacker> yay! my quassel is working