| slangasek | ScottK: does anything use the WTF_PLATFORM_IA64 define, then? | 00:23 |
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| slangasek | ScottK: btw, bug #498631 | 00:23 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 498631 in binutils "ld segfaults with --gc-sections on powerpc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/498631 | 00:23 |
| ScottK | slangasek: Nothing except getting us into the JS64 set instead of 32_64 | 00:24 |
| slangasek | oh, is that what the PLATFORM() macro expands to? | 00:25 |
| ScottK | More specifically WTF_USE_JSVALUE64 instead of WTF_USE_JSVALUE32_64 | 00:25 |
| ScottK | The first patch I gave you would have resulted in using WTF_USE_JSVALUE64, but who knows what else. | 00:26 |
| ScottK | So I'm defining IA64 as an alternate way to get WTF_USE_JSVALUE64 without whaterver X86_64 might have brought along | 00:26 |
| ScottK | I'm pretty sure that's what I want to have happen, I'm really unsure it that's the way to do it. | 00:27 |
| ScottK | As I said earlier, I'm in over my head here. | 00:27 |
| slangasek | looks appropriate to me; should I try another ia64 build to see if anything else fails, or do you just want to throw this at the buildds along with the ppc fix? | 00:27 |
| ScottK | slangasek: Your call. IA64 won't get more broken. | 00:28 |
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| ScottK | slangasek: WRT timing, qt4-x11 takes a long time to build on armel. We're packaging a new KDE upstream right now that's set for upload on Monday. It'd be nice if qt4-x11 was not in the middle of building then, so I'd like to revise my answer and prefer an upload tonight. | 01:16 |
| ebroder | Suck. The open-vm-tools kernel modules apparently don't build on Lucid's kernel. Or Sid's | 02:13 |
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| LaserJock | where does Ubuntu Netbook Remix/Edition development happen? | 02:31 |
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| slangasek | ScottK: qt4-x11 has a completely broken clean target, btw | 07:57 |
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| ScottK | slangasek: I see what's wrong with my patch. I'll fix it. | 14:01 |
| fqh | Hi, all, which tool can be used to check linux kernel coding style? I forgot. | 14:35 |
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| ejat | anyone know how to temporary solve this bug 472345 | 15:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 472345 in evolution "Evolution mail client completely closes when i click 'close window' from the 'File' menu. " [Wishlist,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/472345 | 15:50 |
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| akgraner | ogasawara_, ping | 18:06 |
| zbert | Hello room... anyone in here? | 18:06 |
| zbert | I have some questions about #ubuntu-devel | 18:07 |
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| zbert | There's a lot of names in here but no one is in here? | 18:08 |
| geser | it's weekend so most are idle | 18:08 |
| zbert | okay, see that's one of my questions | 18:09 |
| zbert | isn't this an open source project? | 18:09 |
| zbert | Yesterday I got told to go to the #ubuntu room but isn't that like general support? | 18:09 |
| geser | yes, the Ubuntu distribution is open source | 18:09 |
| zbert | I'm wanting to participate in development in the same way that I do on source forge projects | 18:09 |
| zbert | Which being weekend thing confuses me as I do most of my coding on the weekend as I work my normal job during the week | 18:10 |
| geser | it depends, this channel is mostly used by the paid Ubuntu developers who seldom work on weekends | 18:11 |
| zbert | Yeah, see that's the answer I was looking for... | 18:11 |
| zbert | Where's a good place for the unpaid people who do open source as a hobby? | 18:12 |
| geser | #ubuntu-motu is where the "universe" community hang outs | 18:12 |
| zbert | It's been a pretty big downer because I was hoping to get involved with it more this weekend but I'm not really finding a good start point, maybe I'd do better working on the bugs | 18:12 |
| zbert | Haha... that's more the people like me who just want to do some systems coding | 18:13 |
| geser | have you been pointed to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted already? | 18:13 |
| zbert | No, thanks... this is the help I've been looking for. | 18:13 |
| zbert | I'm not new to coding for open source but am new to doing it for Ubuntu so I just googled ubuntu development and got to here | 18:14 |
| geser | if you are interested in helping with Kubuntu, you might also want do look in #kubuntu-devel. The Kubuntu community is also very strong. | 18:15 |
| zbert | Yeah, but I barely tolerate KDE on Backtrack... I really prefer gnome or open-box | 18:17 |
| zbert | So I've not done much in working with KDE really... but I like hearing that. | 18:17 |
| geser | gnome is discussed in #ubuntu-desktop, but also mostly during the week | 18:18 |
| zbert | So #ubuntu-motu is more of what I'd be likely to find in working through something on like sourceforge/forge.mil type of projects? | 18:18 |
| zbert | Same situation, mostly done by the paid staff? Curious, are you a paid staff? | 18:18 |
| geser | MOTUs care about the packages in the "universe" component of the archive | 18:18 |
| geser | gnome is mostly done by paid devs but also some community devs, and I'm not paid | 18:19 |
| zbert | Yeah, I was just reading that... I'm looking more to working with kernel programming and driver modules | 18:19 |
| zbert | Oh cool... I've always done programming as a hobby and never really thought of it as a pay thing, it's a big reward to see a patch or something I contributed on actually being applied. I'm actually a social worker for my full time job | 18:21 |
| geser | the kernel people hang out in #ubuntu-kernel but I don't know how many paid/non-paid devs there are | 18:21 |
| zbert | Nice, I appreciate this tutorial to development in ubuntu, this helps a lot | 18:21 |
| zbert | So what projects do you work on? | 18:28 |
| ScottK | slangasek: No joy on powerpc, ld still bites: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/4:4.6.0-1ubuntu5/+build/1407295/+files/buildlog_ubuntu-lucid-powerpc.qt4-x11_4:4.6.0-1ubuntu5_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 18:30 |
| shtylman | is anyone else experiencing problems using intel 3945 wireless? | 18:41 |
| shtylman | are there any recent open bugs about it? | 18:41 |
| shtylman | (in lucid that is) | 18:41 |
| ogasawara_ | akgraner: pong | 18:50 |
| akgraner | ogasawara_, is there a way to find total bugs ever reported for Ubuntu...on LP | 18:51 |
| akgraner | since the code push last week that number doesn't show up anymore | 18:51 |
| akgraner | :-( | 18:51 |
| akgraner | ogasawara_, here is where I normally got it from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs | 18:51 |
| ogasawara_ | akgraner: hrm, was just going to point you to that, but if it's no longer there give me a sec and I'll see if I can find it | 18:52 |
| akgraner | ogasawara_, thank you! | 18:52 |
| ogasawara_ | akgraner: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?advanced=1 | 18:52 |
| ogasawara_ | akgraner: as a sort of brute force approach, go to the above and tick every status | 18:53 |
| zbert | hey, there are people in here... can I get some help finding my way around ubuntu development? | 18:53 |
| akgraner | ogasawara_, so just click all the boxes and it will give me a total | 18:53 |
| akgraner | well all the status' | 18:53 |
| zbert | I'd like to contribute, particularly to kernel and gui development, but I've not found rooms that are active | 18:53 |
| ogasawara_ | akgraner: yah, tick all the status' (new, incomplete, etc. . .) and then hit search | 18:53 |
| akgraner | gotcha.. thank you!!! | 18:54 |
| zbert | like ubuntu-kernel is as quiet as this one... is there a decent place to go to get started contributing? | 18:54 |
| akgraner | ogasawara_, sorry to bug you on a Sunday... | 18:54 |
| ogasawara_ | akgraner: np :) | 18:54 |
| zbert | akgraner or ogasawara_? | 18:55 |
| ogasawara_ | zbert: it's the weekend so people are likely away. is there a specific area you are interested in, for ex the kernel? | 18:55 |
| zbert | <zbert> I'd like to contribute, particularly to kernel and gui development, but I've not found rooms that are active | 18:56 |
| zbert | I'm just happy to find a foothold at this point | 18:56 |
| ogasawara_ | zbert: well I'd be more than happy to get you started with the kernel | 18:57 |
| ogasawara_ | zbert: a great place to initially lend a helping hand is triaging bugs | 18:57 |
| zbert | I figured for open source, weekends would be a good time but I've found that ubuntu development most be done a lot by paid staff... | 18:57 |
| ogasawara_ | zbert: can you priv msg me your email and I'll send you some info to get started | 18:57 |
| zbert | Okay, sorry to appear frustrated, I've been reading through the pages then trying quiet rooms most of this weekend, and I only have time to code on the weekend as it's all hobby for me so a day and half of getting started has been used finding a foothold. | 18:58 |
| zbert | Sure, and thanks! | 18:58 |
| slangasek | ScottK: blast; ok, will look at why my powerpc patch doesn't work | 19:30 |
| ScottK | slangasek: Thank you. | 19:39 |
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| slangasek | ScottK: right; my patch doesn't work because I used another non-working bit in the build system as an example | 19:48 |
| slangasek | ScottK: are there docs for these .pro files anywhere? | 19:50 |
| ScottK | slangasek: I don't know. | 19:53 |
| ScottK | I usually just ask fabo about fixing qt4 stuff. | 19:53 |
| ScottK | Riddell: ^^^? | 19:53 |
| slangasek | ok. I'm confident that the workaround in question is the correct one, I just have no idea how to apply it to powerpc given this .pro file format that I have no familiarity with | 19:57 |
| ScottK | Thanks. | 20:02 |
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| Lure | slangasek: .pro files are for qmake (from qt4) | 20:25 |
| Lure | slangasek: doc is here http://qt.nokia.com/doc/4.6/qmake-manual.html | 20:27 |
| slangasek | Lure: what does 'unix:!mac:*-g++*:' mean? | 20:41 |
| Lure | slangasek: to complex for my knowledge level ;-) | 20:55 |
| slangasek | Lure: ok, well, so far I haven't hit on the magic combination that lets me exclude powerpc from this | 21:14 |
| slacker_nl | hi, question, will grub-legacy be upgraded to grub2 by lucid? debian does this when going from stable to testing, will you do the same with karmic/hardy to lucid | 21:34 |
| wgrant | Laney: I've recreated the import that you retried, as bzr-svn this time. it worked: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~wgrant/multidistrotools/trunk | 22:25 |
| Laney | wgrant: Cool. I just grabbed it from svn directly | 22:25 |
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