=== mylogic_ is now known as mylogic [03:43] anyone awake I have a small issue going on on 8.3lts [03:44] I added a sigg sata II card [03:44] it sees the card and loads a driver but its not seing the drives [03:44] this sound slike a incompatable driver correct [03:46] 00:0b.0 SATA controller: Initio Corporation INI-1623 PCI SATA-II Controller (rev 02) [03:47] is the card [03:52] http://pastebin.ca/1720995 [03:52] thats dmesg ? [03:54] My init.d scripts haven't been run at boot for the last 4 days. Any ideas what I should check to help debug? [03:58] If you ever want to try openbox - this is excellent - http://urukrama.wordpress.com/openbox-guide/ [03:59] Ryan: Look at the scripts in /etc/init/* and especially /etc/init/rc.conf [03:59] anyone willing to help me fix this sata card issue ? [04:00] http://pastebin.ca/1720995 [04:00] 00:0b.0 SATA controller: Initio Corporation INI-1623 PCI SATA-II Controller (rev 02) [04:01] jmarsden: rc.conf hasn't been modified for months, but it was working 4 days ago [04:01] UnixDawg: Repeating questions in under 10 minutes is not good form. If no-one answers that's because no-one has answers for you. Try again maybe every 4 hours, not every 10 minutes... [04:02] Ryan: Sounds like you would want to debug upstart itself... I've not had to do that, but it's the general direction I would take in your situation. [04:03] jmarsden: cat /var/log/syslog | grep upstart returns nothing, same with /var/log/messages [04:04] jmarsden: I'm not sure how else to debug it [04:04] Ryan: man init and consider checking whether other upstart tasks (stuff in the /etc/init/*.conf files) are being run OK... [04:10] ok night chek tomorrow [04:14] jmarsden: The runlevel command tells me it's unknown [04:16] jmarsden: Looks like the problem started after I installed the 2.6.31-17 kernel [04:21] Ryan: OK, well, can you boot from the previous kernel and see if things then work as they used to? [04:22] jmarsden: I think I might be experiencing this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/upstart/+bug/497299 [04:22] I'm running 2.6.31-17 here (Karmic Desktop, not Server, though) with no issues like that. [04:22] Launchpad bug 497299 in upstart "upstart not starting init-scripts (event net-device-up IFACE=lo missing)" [Undecided,New] [04:22] Mine's desktop too [04:23] Ryan: Then... you're in the wrong IRC channel... :) [04:23] I asked in #ubuntu but no one answered [04:26] Yes, looks like the same issue. No solution in the bug info yet though. You should probably add something to the bug saying you are experiencing it too, and subscribe to it, in case someone posts a fix there. [04:27] Done [04:28] If you do a telinit 2 does everything "burst into life" ? [04:30] Yep [04:32] !info openbox [04:32] openbox (source: openbox): standards compliant, fast, light-weight, extensible window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.7.2-4 (karmic), package size 279 kB, installed size 1464 kB [04:33] !ubuntu+1 [04:33] Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic Koala) is the current release of Ubuntu. Download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/9.10/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/910 [04:33] !info openbox lucid [04:33] openbox (source: openbox): standards compliant, fast, light-weight, extensible window manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.4.7.2-5 (lucid), package size 266 kB, installed size 1432 kB [04:34] I need to change that [04:39] Ryan: OK, so the issue is that somehow your kernel is not triggering the event setting runlevel 2. You might be able to force that by adding a 2 to the kernel parameter list in grub, as a workaround? [04:40] khelvan: we will be [04:40] khelvan: wrong window - sorry [04:43] jmarsden: Done, going for reboot now [04:43] Back in a tick [04:43] OK. [04:45] jmarsden: Nope, they're not running [04:46] Ryan1: OK, well, it was worth a try. If you boot from the earlier kernel is all working fine? [04:46] ok, I'll try that [04:47] MTecknology - You have roused me from my slumber. :) [04:47] khelvan: hi [04:49] jmarsden: Not running in 2.6.31-16 either [04:49] So it mustn't be kernel related [04:50] Ryan: That sounds logical... there *was* an update to upstart itself... [04:50] Yeah [04:51] You could try going back to the earlier one and seeing whether that fixes things for you. [04:51] I'm running upstart 0.6.3-11, which I think is the same one in the bug report [04:51] MTecknology, did you mean to send something to me? [04:52] no [04:52] just wrong window [04:52] Ryan: Right. The one in Karmic itself (not karmic-updates) is 0.6.3-10 so going back to that might help? [04:53] Already installing 0.6.3-10 ;) [04:53] :) [04:54] Rebooting again [04:56] New bug: #391882 in kdenetwork "Make Samba easy to disable and enable in KDE" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/391882 [04:56] jmarsden: All good now [04:57] Good. Updating that bug to say so would be good, so others know the workaround. [05:04] jmarsden: Should I change the status to confirmed, or is that for a developer to do? [05:05] No, if you can confirm the bug, then make a comment to that effect and mark it so. [05:05] Ryan: You can ; you duplicated the issue, so it can be confirmed (by you). [05:21] Well I'm going to go [05:21] Thanks for your help [06:38] is there a FAQ on ways to protect myself from brute force SSH attacks? [06:44] osmosis: fail2ban or denyhosts takes care of that pretty well [07:32] -m recent is a static iptables mechanism to prevent brute-force attacks. [07:33] IMO, it's more robust than a daemon that reads logfiles and adds stuff into ipset or tcpwrappers. [07:42] Could someone fix this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ServerSideIncludes It should read "AddOutputFilter INCLUDE .shtml" not "AddOutputFilter INCLUDES .shtml" [07:43] Donk3: It's a wiki. Anyone can fix it. [07:44] well, here I am giving Windows a chance once more. seems windows 7 has some "unmovable" files, incidentially placed in the middle of the drive so shrinking the drive size won't work, since no defrag program can move these files. wtf would be the point of fixing a file's disk position in a filesystem in 2009? Perhaps I should give Windows another ten years before trying again........ [07:45] (btw I _can_ shrink the partition size to 120gigs, but not to 30, because the placement of these files) [07:45] only if you create a login first :) [07:46] * RoyK wants to throw small darts at Bill Gates and his gang [07:48] "I'm RoyK and I'm Windows 7 forever" ;) [07:49] * RoyK hits Donk3 on the head with a spade [07:57] RoyK: are you examining this NTFS partition using Linux? [08:08] twb: no, I'm doing this on fucking windoze. I'm just blarting out in here [08:10] RoyK: what, you're trying to resize a filesystem while it's in use? [08:11] twb: no problem with that, if it weren't for the files that i'm unable to move [12:36] Hm... I think I know why I can't run startx from server [12:43] hm [12:43] I don't know why but [12:43] when trying to install ubuntu-desktop connection was losed and something went wrong [12:44] now if I do apt-get update I get at the end dpkg was iterrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem [12:44] if I do run this command computer hangs at the poing when trying to configure network manager.... [12:45] I tried to remove ubuntu-desktop but I also get this command dpkg --configure a [12:45] so now I'm stuck? [12:45] I though I can fix this with apt-get fix something? [12:45] :S [13:02] frojnd: perhaps try to apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop [13:02] btw, if you need a desktop computer, why install ubuntu-server? [13:04] the only real difference between server and desktop is the kernel, and the difference there is tiny [13:05] i would like to remove apache from my desktop, since I have a LAMP setup on a separate machine. What is the best way to do it? [13:07] RoyK: I know it's less secure but.. [13:07] my bro's computer died [13:07] and now my sis deosn't have any X [13:08] RoyK: I'll only use openbox + mplayer + firefox + epiphany + light music player + alight file browser + maybe kwrite in X [13:10] less secure? [13:29] apache removed, problem solved === dendrobates is now known as dendro-afk [13:40] for some strange reason my ntfs parition turned into an extended partition and now I can't read it, is it possible to change fs to ntfs and recover my files? [13:44] well Extended isn't a filesystem but that's what fdisk is telling me http://pastebin.com/mdb5f47c [13:58] morning guys [13:59] I have a issue Ineed help with [13:59] I added a sata card to a server and ubuntu-server sees the card loads the driver [13:59] 00:0b.0 SATA controller: Initio Corporation INI-1623 PCI SATA-II Controller (rev 02) [14:00] but when I attache drives and boot up and it still see the b=card but the drives fail [14:02] http://pastebin.com/m2ac659bf [14:02] this is dmesg [14:04] to me its seems a driver issue as if we bootup with pclinux and it finds the card the drives work fine [14:09] any thoughts ? [14:18] UnixDawg: is that 8.04 or 9.10? [14:29] 8.04 [14:31] 8.04 LTS 32bit [14:32] UnixDawg: which is getting a bit old, I'd wonder if it's supported with 9.10 [14:33] ok how would I do a dist upgrade safely ? [14:33] I was tols 9.10 had threading issues [14:33] thats why we used 8.04 [14:33] not to mention that you'd have to upgrade 8.04 > 8.10 > 9.04 > 9.10, not a desirable prospect [14:33] or wait to go straight to 10.04 [14:34] ok there is a 9.10 [14:34] ok I dont see a 10.04 iso [14:34] 10.04 isn't released yet [14:34] it won't be out until March 2010 [14:34] April [14:34] 9.10 ? [14:34] or is it not out [14:34] UnixDawg: year.month [14:34] it's out ;) [14:34] Released in September of this year [14:35] I dont see it on the server download page [14:35] yes I do I am blind [14:35] lol [14:35] UnixDawg: I might grab the 9.10 livecd, run that to see if your hardware is supported [14:35] well we dont have alot on this box yet [14:35] ok [14:35] ah [14:36] I'm guessing the pclinuxos you tried is a newer version [14:36] yes [14:36] the latest ver [14:36] if it worked there it is probably likely it works in latest ubuntu [14:36] like it alot its very clean [14:36] ok [14:37] I have a 2nd drive I can install on with out loosing anything [14:37] so I am safe [14:38] thanks for the input [14:38] good luck [14:38] I will test and report back [14:38] chous [15:05] Is it possible to run a cloud with just the controller? will it function as a node? [15:55] hey guys i got a question for ya is xen still supported in karmic as the documentation doesnt mention how to setup xen in karmic [15:55] !xen [15:55] XEN is a virtual machine monitor for x86 that supports execution of multiple guest operating systems with unprecedented levels of performance and resource isolation. Information on installing it for Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Xen [15:56] !info xen [15:56] Package xen does not exist in karmic [15:56] !kvm [15:56] kvm is the preferred virtualization approach in Ubuntu. For more information see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM [17:49] Is there a way to automate the install of mysql-server so that you don't get prompted to enter a root pass? When you "apt-get install mysql-server" it prompts for a MySQL root password, is there anyway to automatically set the root pass as part of the install command? [17:50] debconf-set-selections [17:51] pipedream: will that stop from being prompted? [17:52] yes [17:52] try #ubuntu-server on freenode too [17:52] great thanks [17:52] but [17:52] on a configured box [17:52] debconf-get-selections package > pkg.seed [17:52] on a new box, while installing, before install pkg, debconf-set-selections < pkg.seed [17:53] try it somewhere for exact syntax [17:53] you have to install some of those commands first [17:53] don't remember all the details now [17:53] err [17:53] I guess this is ubuntu-server :-P [17:53] I thought it was ubuntu-za [17:54] I've used it for other packages, not mysql-server [17:54] np, Thanks for the help pipedream :) [17:54] not sure whether the password string you see will be encrypted, for instance [17:56] i'll give'er a shot and report back... how can I check if it needs to be encrypted or not? [18:02] ChrisRut, I'm guessing if it's encrypted, debconf-get-selections will show a hash, and if it isn't, it'll show the password you used [18:15] anyone got a Sil based pci sata card in a machine with 9.10 server? [18:21] !vmware [18:21] VMWare is not available in the Ubuntu repositories. Consider using !QEmu or !VirtualBox as alternatives. Instructions for installing VMWare manually are at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware [18:37] ks [18:37] whats an irc server package i can install to ubuntu server? [18:46] I imagine most of the ircd's are ubuntu-compatible. [18:47] * Ziber uses unrealircd, personally [18:51] that tells me i have no c compiler in the system [18:57] X-M4-X: did you install build-essential [18:59] or gcc? [19:03] I did not [19:05] Now i have - dang i love linux-10 second installs [19:40] i have installed a LAMP server and while typing a server name in firefox addressbar(on client machine), I'm getting 404 error. Look at error.log tells that /htdocs can't be found. Strange thing is that I don't need it or have ever entered such a path. I'm little lost here, can anyone help me with that, plz? [19:42] what I am typing is http://guardian-s01 (this is the name of my server) [20:00] dragon_, do you have an index.html in /var/www/ [20:00] bogeyd6: yes, i do [20:01] dragon_, default apache2 install is /var/www [20:01] dragon_, what if you http://ipaddress [20:02] bogeyd6: I know, this is why this error is so stupid. IP is 192.168.1.3 [20:02] dragon_, same error message? [20:03] bogeyd6: yes, in firefox. must check in error.log [20:04] bogeyd6: [Sun Dec 20 21:03:06 2009] [error] [client 192.168.1.4] File does not exist: /htdocs [20:08] dragon_: looks like config error [20:09] RoyK: i know, but where to look? httpd.conf is completely empty [20:11] dragon_: do a find / -name "httpd.conf" [20:11] New bug: #498859 in ntp (main) "package ntpdate 1:4.2.4p6+dfsg-1ubuntu5.1 failed to install/upgrade: pacote ntpdate já está instalado e configurado" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/498859 [20:11] dragon_: apache.conf [20:12] dragon_: that is - apache2.conf [20:12] dragon_: look in /etc/apache2/ and /etc/apache2/sites-enabled [20:12] ubuntu/debian uses a rather neat apache config tree [20:14] RoyK: of course - thx for the reminder :) [20:16] RoyK: httpd.conf is an empty file [20:16] lol http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/singles/ [20:16] dragon_: yes, it is [20:16] dragon_: see the others I mentioned [20:17] RoyK: there is nothing in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled [20:17] dragon_: there should be a symlink, 000default -> ../sites-available/default [20:18] RoyK: and in /etc/apache2/sites-available is default and default-ssl which I didn't touch [20:18] there aren't any symlinks in sites-enabled? [20:18] if not, cd /etc/apache2/sites-enabled [20:18] ln -s ../sites-available/default 000default [20:18] dragon_: you can use 'sudo a2ensite default' to make that link [20:19] does the same thing though [20:19] well, except that the link should be 000-default [20:19] oh - didn't know that :) [20:19] jtaji: it really doesn't make much change [20:19] a2ensite, a2dissite, a2enmod, a2dismod [20:19] handy stuff [20:19] jtaji: ln, handy command [20:19] oh yeah, that true [20:19] everything is just read from that directory in order [20:20] well, if you just make the symlinks, you see what happens [20:20] RoyK: indeed it is ;) [20:20] does a2* reload apache as well? [20:21] other cool thing is bash-completion magic works for the a2ensite et. al. [20:21] no it doesn't, but it tells you to [20:21] RoyK: no [20:21] well, create it or do as jtaji said [20:22] RoyK: the a2ensite default solved the problem, now works everything just like I wanted it, thank you very much! [20:22] then make a new entry in sites-available and enable that one [20:22] jtaji: thank you! [20:22] a2ensite makes a symlink and sends a hangup to apache [20:23] (so that you understand how things work) [20:23] huh, does the hangup cause the config to be reloaded? [20:23] yeah :) [20:23] most daemons trap SIGHUP and reload the config [20:24] interesting [20:24] it still tells you: Run '/etc/init.d/apache2 reload' to activate new configuration! [20:24] I imagine the code hasn't been touched in a while [20:24] apache2ctl graceful [20:26] hmm [20:26] is what a2ensite does not graceful? [20:26] jtaji: i did init.d before I tested if a2ensite did the work unfortunately, so I can't tell anything if you must or must not to do it after sending the command [20:26] no worries, I can test if I'm curious ;) [20:27] because apparently apache2ctl graceful sends a SIGUSR1 instead [20:27] jtaji: afaik graceful is SIGHUP and I gues a2ensite does just that [20:27] oh [20:27] ok [20:28] that's what it says in man apache2ctl anyway [20:28] thought that was sighup [20:28] Gracefully restarts the Apache daemon by sending it a SIGUSR1. [20:28] ok [20:28] sighup might be a little tougher, then [20:29] yeah it says apache2ctl restart sends a SIGHUP [20:29] graceful doesn't stop active connections [20:29] ok [20:29] nice to know [20:29] thanks [20:29] seems like a2ensite should be graceful or give you the option [20:30] thank you, good info [20:30] :) [20:30] irc ftw [20:30] I think you've stumbled across a potential bug [20:31] jtaji: I want to apology for stepping on your toes the other day (the issue with Storm3yy wanting to be root) [20:32] guntbert: no problem at all... I figure that's how we handle #ubuntu but should be a little more lenient in here [20:32] guntbert: but honestly after the fact I regretted the advice.. and it turned out he was doing it over the public internet [20:34] jtaji: I see - I was a bit angry too - because he consistently refused to say what his *real* goal was (aside from being able to scp as root) [20:35] there actually turned out to be a way to use sudo with winscp [20:35] jtaji: I followed the conversation and learned :-) [20:35] it was right on winscp website [20:35] so now there really is no more excuse ;) [20:35] it is pretty rare to actually need root [20:36] and those people will know how to do it already [20:36] jtaji: :) [20:37] so I'm setting up a web server for just one website (actually it is going to have three virtual hosts: one of the web interface, another for the API and another one for a internal shortlinking redirection). I see Apache uses /var/www as default (I'm familiar with Apache, but just not too much btw) [20:37] should I use it or how do you guys think it is better to do? [20:37] I've been using /srv/http/ [20:38] change the user from root for the /var/www to anything else, create an user and put everything in a directory there, etc... [20:38] it's kind of the newish place to put that stuff, according to FHS [20:38] but it really doesn't matter [20:38] okay [20:38] well, I usually make /srv/http/domain.com directories [20:38] and what about the user, what do you use? [20:38] and the domain.com directory will be owned by a user [20:39] but not /srv/http [20:39] okay [20:39] now, I'm the only user ;) [20:39] so just my main user [20:40] it needs to be readable by www-data [20:40] so you can make it world readable, or if that's not appropriate, owned by group www-data and group readable [20:41] if any directory needs to be written to by apache, you can make it group writable by www-data [20:42] ok === dragon__ is now known as dragon_ [20:45] Hey - Has anyone used Amazon EC2 EBS Unbuntu before? [21:01] exit [21:02] I need help with the IRC server it doesnt work! === fahadsadah is now known as Guest51729 [21:26] anyone here3 [21:26] [21:27] X-M4-X: which irc server? what are you trying to do? [21:28] I have everything set up and configured but i need to copy unrealircd.conf to /Unreal3.2 [21:29] eeerm - what sort of software is this? what are you trying to do? [21:30] its an irc server package called Unrealircd i just need to know how to copy that file [21:30] seems that doesn't come with ubuntu [21:31] if that's the case, then this is the wrong channel for you.... [21:31] there are a few irc servers in the ubuntu repository [21:37] ops [21:37] X-M4-X: did you find out about your probs? [21:38] X-M4-X: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IrcServer [21:38] I need to copy the configuration from /Unreal3.2/doc to /Unreal3.2 and i have no clue how to do that [21:40] X-M4-X, use the command cp to copy [21:40] so cp /Unreal/config.conf /Unreal3.2/ [22:33] how can I install Ampache on a v-hosted system so it's only available to ONE domain? [22:39] does ampache allow relaying? [22:40] ie, relay from my home pc, to a remote server and broadcast from it? [23:11] is there a way to diff two directories but have it show the difference in permissions & owners? === alex88 is now known as alex88[sleep] [23:38] have a xubuntu 8.04.3 LTS base with apache, and mysql installed, have run tasksel install lamp-server, yet still apache keeps wanting me to download php files instead of parsing, where is my error? [23:42] rootlinuxusr: Is this affecting all .php files, or only index.php? For example, if you do echo -e "" |sudo tee /var/www/html/phpinfo.php # and then browse to http://localhost/phpinfo.php what happens? [23:44] firefox tries to download asdf.php(what I named it. [23:44] )* [23:45] rootlinuxusr: Don't modify things you are asked to try, just cut and paste from here, it generally saves time and avoids typos... [23:47] still tries to download it. [23:47] OK... try sudo a2enmod php5 # and then restart Apache. [23:48] Module php5 installed; run /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload to enable. [23:49] Good. DO what it says to reload apache [23:49] yup, still tries to download. [23:50] That's... odd. OK, let me see if I can duplicate the issue on a fresh (virtual machine) install of 8.04.3 . Will take a few minutes to set up... [23:51] no problem. really need this fixed, trying to install phpmyadmin [23:54] rootlinuxusr: I've solved this kind of issue for someone else before (maybe for two people), here in this channel... but I don't remember what the fix is or was... [23:54] I think you need to enable PHP for each virtual host [23:54] for each virtual host that needs it [23:55] JanC: a2enmod does that apache-wide, doesn't it? What do you mean specifically by "enable PHP" ? [23:56] a2enmod makes sure that module gets loaded, but you need to tell apache to use that module for *.php files [23:56] JanC: Be specific... AddHandler? What are you suggesting? [23:57] You may be right..., btw... [23:58] yeah, that [23:59] phpmyadmin.conf already does an AddType for it... [23:59] the exact config for such things might differ foir each virtualhost, so can't be done automaticly