[00:04] <wally> hello
[00:04] <wally> I neesd some help in ubuntu
[00:08] <besitzer> hLLOA
[00:08] <besitzer> HALLO
[00:29] <vit__> hola a todos!!
[00:29] <vit__> alguien por ahi que m diga para que sirve esta aplicacion?
[00:30] <cuznt> !fr
[00:31] <cuznt> !it
[00:46] <pok3r4lho_> pig
[00:52] <fa4anaheim> test test...is this thing on?
[00:58] <fa4anaheim> hello..?
[00:58] <cuznt> hi
[00:58] <cuznt> !ask
[00:59] <fa4anaheim> noted...i am trying to figure out how to open files as root so i can edit them...what info do you need?
[01:04] <fa4anaheim> The file in question is /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode. I am trying to change the "FN" key to the opposite state but I cannot figure out how to open, change, and save it as root...
[01:07] <greatwall> sdxaf4sad
[01:09] <fa4anaheim> i guess not then...
[01:10] <Dragnslicer> sudo kate /path/to/file should work
[01:10] <islington> fa4anaheim: you just need to know the sudo passwoed
[01:10] <islington> kdesu kate /path/to/file should be safer
[01:10] <Dragnslicer> There is no "sudo password"
[01:11] <Dragnslicer> Er, yeah
[01:11] <Dragnslicer> Obviously I'm not thinking quite straight tonight
[01:11] <Dragnslicer> fa4anaheim- kdesu kate /path/to/file
[01:11] <fa4anaheim> cool, trying it now...
[01:12] <Dragnslicer> Ugh, no
[01:12] <Dragnslicer> fa4anaheim- kdesudo kate /path/to/file
[01:12] <Dragnslicer> I think that's actually correct now
[01:17] <fa4anaheim> Well it opens, but I can't save it...also, I get several lines of "X Error: BadWindow"
[01:23] <Dragnslicer> fa4anaheim- the X errors can probably be ignored. Why can't you save the file though?
[01:24] <fa4anaheim> Good question...says the file is "Protected" and I do not have permission...
[01:24] <nok> I am Extremely new to Kubuntu wondering if any would mind helping me
[01:24] <fa4anaheim> nok - with what?
[01:24] <Fanfare> nok: whats your prob?
[01:25] <nok> Am i able to download .executables and use them? am getting an error with it.
[01:26] <Fanfare> nok: well executables (*.exe) are windows specific you can try to run them with wine
[01:26] <Fanfare> nok: www.winehq.org
[01:26] <nok> ok ill check it out thanks.
[01:27] <Fanfare> nok: try to find an linux alternative!
[01:27] <millun_> hi, how can i make pulseaudio work again?
[01:27] <fa4anaheim> nok - an executable in linux is created when you compile from source, did you download the source file?
[01:27] <nok> not sure for the specific program i didnt see a source fille just the .exe
[01:28] <Fanfare> nok what app?
[01:28] <nok> youll probably laugh but Fulltiltpoker
[01:28] <fa4anaheim> nok - from a website? I would try using an rpm manager...are you using gnome or kde?
[01:28] <nok> My system is pretty crappy and runs slow on windows so thought i would try kub and is alot better
[01:28] <nok> gnome i beleive
[01:29] <Fanfare> nok: well, kde has nice card games :-) try to query appdb.winehq.org
[01:30] <nok> trying to play with real money ;)
[01:30] <Fanfare> appdb has instructions on how to install windows apps in linux...
[01:31] <Fanfare> if u have any probs with wine, ask there then... #wine
[01:32] <Fanfare> sry  #winehq
[01:32] <nok> Well thanks fanfare preciate the help like i said new to linux period just installed it today.
[01:34] <Fanfare> nok: np ur welcome. this is kubuntu channel. (ubuntu + KDE) if u have gnome, the chose #ubuntu
[01:34] <the_cyber_guy> is there any way to just download the package from kpackage kit and not to install them
[01:36] <Fanfare> the_cyber_guy: not kpackagekit, but apt-get
[01:36] <the_cyber_guy> how ?
[01:36] <Fanfare> man:apt-get its the -d option
[01:46] <fa4anaheim> "Permission Denied" as root..?!
[01:49] <Dragnslicer> fa4anaheim- yeah, that's weird
[01:49] <Dragnslicer> fa4anaheim- what file are you trying to edit?
[01:51] <fa4anaheim> It is the file that determines the state of the "Function" key on my Apple keyboard. Right not it is set to 1 which means I must hold the FN key for any of the F1-F19 keys to work. I am trying to change it to 2 which is opposite...
[01:51] <fa4anaheim> /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode
[01:54] <Dragnslicer> Do "ls /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode" and give us the single line it shows
[01:56] <fa4anaheim> Ok...fnmode is the file...but if I do "ls /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters" it shows just "fnmode"
[01:57] <Dragnslicer> Oops, sorry
[01:57] <fa4anaheim> That's cool...
[01:57] <Dragnslicer> ls -al /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode
[01:57] <fa4anaheim> ...stand by...
[01:57] <Dragnslicer> I forget that not everyone has -al aliased in to ls
[01:58] <fa4anaheim> "-r--r--r-- 1 root root 4096 2009-12-20 19:45 /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode"
[02:03] <rejohn1> Is it considered safe do do the KU 904 > 910 upgrade now?
[02:07] <rejohn> test
[02:07] <fa4anaheim> sup
[02:08] <Dragnslicer> fa4anaheim- that's odd. Doesn't look like there should be anything stopping you from editing the file
[02:08] <fa4anaheim> I know right...what about tcsh..? Overwrite maybe..?
[02:08] <Dragnslicer> fa4anaheim- you could try "sudo nano /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode" and see if that works for you
[02:09] <fa4anaheim> Ok...
[02:11] <fa4anaheim> [ Error writing /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode: Permission denied ] WTF?!
[02:13] <Dragnslicer> That is bizarre
[02:13] <fa4anaheim> I know...
[02:13] <Dragnslicer> Okay, try this
[02:13] <Dragnslicer> sudo cp /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode.new
[02:13] <fa4anaheim> Ok...
[02:14] <fa4anaheim> "cp: cannot create regular file `/sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode.new': No such file or directory"
[02:17] <Fanfare> do i get that right, that file contains blanks?
[02:17] <Dragnslicer> fa4anaheim- hm, I get the same result (different directory under /sys/module though)
[02:18] <fa4anaheim> Really...
[02:18] <Dragnslicer> You'd think I would know this, but I'd guess that /sys/module is a special directory
[02:18] <Dragnslicer> Have you looked at this page- https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard
[02:20] <fa4anaheim> Thanks for all the help Dragon, I'm going to read through the link you gave me. If I'm still stuck I might give you a shout. Thanks again!
[02:22] <rejohn1> Is it considered safe do do the KU 904 > 910 upgrade now?
[02:23] <Dragnslicer> fa4anaheim- there's a section there about how to change it permanently
[02:23] <fa4anaheim> That's what I need...
[02:26] <Fanfare> rejohn1: upgrade should work ok, no raisefs4 nor grub2 then, but should work
[02:26] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: It was considered safe when 9.10 was released. What are your concerns?
[02:27] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: I read that there were problems, maybe w/ Ub 9.10
[02:28] <Fanfare> rejohn1: run 9.10 live cd see if everything works
[02:29] <rejohn1> I'm running KU 9.04 with the KDE 4 updates from the launchpad ppa, installed maybe 0906.  Are there any special instructions for doing the upgrade from that to the standard KU 9.10?
[02:29] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: There will always be problems. you are upgrading a few thousand programs along with settings and new kernels nderlying all of them. If there were no problems the world would implode from the gasp of surprise
[02:29] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: I'm just trying to ensure the major bugs are out of the upgrade process to 9.10
[02:29] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: The upgrade will disable the ppa. The packages in 9.10 are newer so it should be a clean upgrade
[02:30] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: so, i just follow the regular upgrade process, no special instructions cause i ws using the later kde?
[02:30] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: What would be wise is to check your hardware compatibilty. There were some driver regressions so check out any problems with your wifi sound and video card in 9.10
[02:30] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: No changes needed
[02:31] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: check out using the live cd, or in what way?
[02:31] <DaskreeCh> Fanfare: That's for you ^^6
[02:48] <dunga> hi guys! how can I find out what's wrong with my Linux installation. It freezes a lot and I have to REISUB or physically power off to get it back. It does that a lot
[02:52] <francisco_> hello there
[02:52] <rejohn1> After I asked my question above about upgrading to 9.10, I had a konqueror window pop up with https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CommonQuestions  - was that window pop up caused by a command from someone in this channel?
[02:53] <francisco_> can anybody help me with a big issue with my wifi in kubuntu 9.10
[02:55] <DaskreeCh> dunga: Video card drivers
[02:55] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: not by me
[02:55] <DaskreeCh> !wifi | francisco__
[02:55] <DaskreeCh> hi _2
[02:55] <_2> what is going on fellowz
[02:55] <_2> DaskreeCh shalom
[02:56] <_2> long C  no time
[02:56] <DaskreeCh> I know
[02:56] <DaskreeCh> Been out of the helping people thing for a while
[02:56] <DaskreeCh> !wifi | francisco__
[02:56] <DaskreeCh> Curses
[02:56] <francisco_> yes sorry i am new in this matter
[02:56] <DaskreeCh> francisco_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs
[02:57] <_2> what are the new specs ?   kubuntu 9.10 ?   kde 4.??? ?
[02:59] <dunga> Daskreech: sorry - thought nobody was active. my graphic adapter, VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controlle
[02:59] <DaskreeCh> _2: specs? Specs would be for 10.04
[02:59] <_2> i'm still using 6.6 dapper drake    on three boxen   debian etch on another.   just wondering what the latest "common problems" were.
[03:00] <DaskreeCh> dunga: Switch your driver to vesa and sit out 3D for 9.10
[03:00] <_2> and is 10.4 an lts release ?
[03:00] <DaskreeCh> _2: Right so you canre about 10.04
[03:00] <DaskreeCh> Yes it is
[03:00] <_2> cool i'll have to uptoit
[03:01] <DaskreeCh> dunga: The Intel driver went nuts for that chipset sometime in 9.04 and got worse in 9.10 It should be fixed by Feb so 10.04 will be stable again (hopefully)
[03:01] <DaskreeCh> _2: it's in alpha right now
[03:01] <dunga> DaskreeCh: I use Mint 7 based on Jaunty. Let me see what happens when I switch to VESA.  Thanks a lot for helping
[03:02] <_2> heh  ten four   sounds like a release for a citicens band distro  :>
[03:02] <_2> DaskreeCh kubuntu+1 ?
[03:02] <DaskreeCh> _2: Hopefully it will arrest some problems :)
[03:02] <DaskreeCh> _2: KDE 4.4 was just merged in and is on the road for being a fine release
[03:03] <DaskreeCh> _2: you've been avoiding KDE 4 up until now?
[03:04] <_2> DaskreeCh avoiding "fixing what isn't broken" more than anything else.
[03:04] <DaskreeCh> _2: Well if you like KDE 3 has an unsupported repo in 10.04
[03:04] <DaskreeCh> !kde3
[03:04] <DaskreeCh> ha that needs to be updated
[03:05] <Roasted> anybody good with kdenlive?
[03:05] <iconmefisto> there's lots of kubuntu stuff that needs updating, things have been moving fast in the last year or so
[03:06] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: do you know if people in the channel have to capability to cause konq to pop up with that url?
[03:06] <DaskreeCh> KDE moves quite fast Ubuntu Docs are getting to be quite the unmainteind forest though
[03:07] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: I would doubt it. If someone gave a link and you clicked on it (even unintentionally) it would pop up though
[03:07] <DaskreeCh> Roasted: Want to ask the question?
[03:07] <rejohn1> I see this url: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KarmicUpgrades/Kubuntu  But, is there a description of a way to upgrade 904 to 910 using the command line?
[03:07] <DaskreeCh> Roasted: also #kdenlive is quite friendly
[03:08] <DaskreeCh> Though they do have a strong tendency to the SVN version which is a good deal better than the latest release
[03:08] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: sudo do-release-upgrade
[03:08] <Roasted> my kdenlive question is very simple - I have a fade out on a picture. Real simple, right? Too bad it doesnt fade out. Its something so small and its enraging me.
[03:09] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: thx - is that process described in a web page someplace?
[03:09] <Roasted> two pictures in a row, 1 fades out, 1 does not, both have the same setting
[03:10] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: on the Ubuntu upgrade page it's the same as the server upgrade
[03:10] <DaskreeCh> Roasted: Same codec?
[03:10] <Roasted> same codec? *shrug*
[03:10] <Roasted> I dont know man. Its my first time using this program.
[03:10] <DaskreeCh> Roasted: I honestly don't know I"m just asking. #kdenlive sounds like a proper place to get a knowledgeable anwser
[03:11] <Roasted> I just added 2 pictures, added face effect, and one works 1 doesnt
[03:11] <Roasted> Im in that chat now
[03:11] <Roasted> nobody is responding
[03:12] <DaskreeCh> Roasted: It's a much smaller channel can't expect it lively all the time :)
[03:12] <_2> Roasted are the paciures the same format ?
[03:12] <Roasted> cancel that
[03:12] <Roasted> both of them dont fade out now
[03:12] <Roasted> this is ungodly frustrating
[03:12] <Roasted> such a smallt hing
[03:13] <Roasted> I assume so, they were taken with the same camera to the best of my memory
[03:13] <Roasted> all JPG's
[03:13] <DaskreeCh> Ah pictures
[03:13] <Roasted> yeah
[03:13] <Roasted> tryin to make my lady friend a slide show for Christmas :P
[03:14] <DaskreeCh> Hmm again I have no ideas as to how this stuff works but perhaps try making one fade out a second or so after the other
[03:14] <Roasted> well isnt that friendly of them
[03:14] <Roasted> I posted in the chat
[03:14] <Roasted> "hey guys"
[03:14] <Roasted> their response was "were not here". Oh. Okay. Thank you.
[03:15] <DaskreeCh> Whichversion are you using btw?
[03:15] <Roasted> 0.7.3 on KDE 4.3.2
[03:18] <webbb82_> hey i am trying to install the plasma-netbook files   but im getting a dependencie problem  does kubuntu netbook work in kde 4.4?
[03:21] <webbb82_> plasma-netbook-dpg wont install
[03:22] <francisco_> daskreech can you give me an idea to know which wifi i have in my laptop
[03:23] <_2> regex question   howto find piriod followed by any char except space ?  >looking.for< >but. not<
[03:23] <iconmefisto> francisco_: lshw -C network
[03:24] <Dragnslicer> _2- \.[^ ]
[03:25] <Dragnslicer> Assuming you're using Perl-style
[03:25] <_2> Dragnslicer ty
[03:25] <_2> yes thanks
[03:25] <francisco_> and this work for wifi
[03:25] <francisco_> it is say realtek
[03:25] <francisco_> id 0
[03:26] <francisco_> i think this is for lancard but wired
[03:27] <rejohn1> Help, please:  I'm getting this failure:  do-release-upgrade  Checking for a new ubuntu release  No new release found   , but:
[03:27] <rejohn1> lsb_release -a //  No LSB modules are available.  Distributor ID: Ubuntu Description: Ubuntu 9.04 Release: 9.04 Codename: jaunty
[03:28] <rejohn1> Any ideas?
[03:29] <DaskreeCh> francisco_: try typing sudo lshw -C network
[03:29] <francisco_> iconmefisto this command it is useful for wifi too
[03:29] <francisco_> thanks Daskreech trying right now
[03:29] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: Umm hold on
[03:29] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: thanks, holding
[03:30] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: can you tell me if sudo do-release-upgrade -d finds 10.04 ?
[03:31] <francisco_> Daskreech this is useful for wifi too
[03:32] <DaskreeCh> francisco_: yes. If you are not seeing anything check if you hardware kill switch is off
[03:32] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: it's working, doing some downloading
[03:32] <francisco_> how can i do that cause it is not present
[03:33] <Zenith88> hi! Does anybody know how to change text console resolution? I tried vga=ask kernel argument, but it results in 'vga=ask is deprecated' message. Also tried directly using mode ## from grub vesa info command, did not work too.
[03:33] <francisco_> it is appear off in led wifi
[03:33] <francisco_>  has to be off how can i turn on
[03:34] <_2> mine has a switch on the case...
[03:34] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: Woah stop it
[03:34] <francisco_> switch is on my dear
[03:34] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: it did not mention 1004.  it did say:
[03:34] <rejohn1> 18 packages are going to be removed. 163 new packages are going to be
[03:34] <rejohn1> installed. 921 packages are going to be upgraded.
[03:35] <DaskreeCh> francisco_: flick it on and off
[03:35] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: did you type do-release-upgrade -d ?
[03:35] <francisco_> how please
[03:35] <DaskreeCh> francisco_: I don't know I dont' know what kind of laptop you have
[03:36] <DaskreeCh> Zenith88: Koala?
[03:36] <francisco_> hp 6925la
[03:36] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: as root, i typed:  "root@ :~/apt# do-release-upgrade -d"
[03:36] <Zenith88> DaskreeCh: yes, 9.10
[03:37] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: That should upgrade you to 10.04 so please don't let it continue
[03:37] <DaskreeCh> Zenith88: You'd have to follow the grub2 not the grub sequence I think
[03:38] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: thanks,  btw, i've beeen doing "apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade" for months, to get the latest packages.  Any suggestions?
[03:38] <Zenith88> DaskreeCh: Sorry, I am new to this whole grub thing. What exactly do I have to do? And  I guess it's related - how can I boot into text only mode?
[03:39] <Zenith88> DaskreeCh: I tried telinit, but it's quite different than SysV init, sometimes it will switch modes on me, sometimes not...
[03:40] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: umm use sudo?
[03:40] <DaskreeCh> Suggestions for what?
[03:40] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: how to upgrade to 910.,
[03:40] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: I was root, so i shouldn't need to do sudo.
[03:40] <DaskreeCh> Zenith88: Umm I'd guess you need to sit somewhere between #upstart and #grub to get your answer
[03:41] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: what does do-release-upgrade say?
[03:41] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: do-release-upgrade  Checking for a new ubuntu release  No new release found
[03:41] <Zenith88> DaskreeCh: That went over my head
[03:42] <DaskreeCh> Zenith88: join #grub and ask there. If you hit on problem then #upstart may be helpful
[03:42] <DaskreeCh> But you should probably start in #grub
[03:43] <DaskreeCh> Did you upgrade to 9.10 or did you do a clean install?
[03:43] <DaskreeCh> francisco_: can you pastebin the output of sudo lshw ?
[03:44] <Zenith88> DaskreeCh: Thx!
[03:45] <_2> Zenith88 i would think that console size is a kernel "thang" maybe asking in #linux #kernel or #linuxhelp would be more productive
[03:46] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: any suggestion on how to get the upgrade to 910 going properly?
[03:49] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: was that a suggestion from you that i should join #upstart?
[03:51] <iconmefisto> rejohn1: have you tried sudo do-release-upgrade as normal user?
[03:51] <rejohn1> iconmefisto: no, i can try that, though.  I did the dru as root.
[03:54] <rejohn1> iconmefisto: same result as before, when doing dur as normal user:  no new release found.
[03:54] <rejohn1> iconmefisto: suggestions for getting the upgrade to work?
[03:54] <iconmefisto> same result for the gui method?
[03:55] <rejohn1> iconmefisto: DaskreeCh btw, i have 904 with the launchpad ppa update for kde 4 in my sources.list. - in case that matters.
[03:56] <rejohn1> iconmefisto: i haven't tried the gui method, because i prefer to do console update, so i can script save the output, in case i need to debug something,
[03:56] <rejohn1> iconmefisto: i could try it, though.
[03:57] <iconmefisto> alt-F2, and type update-notifier-kde -u
[03:58] <rejohn1> iconmefisto: did you see DaskreeCh 's note to me indicating that by one command he suggested, it was going to try to do an upgrade to 10.04?  I want to make sure the gui method doesn't doan upgrade to 10.04
[03:58] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: Ah right. Ok so lets try update manager
[03:58] <Werenerd> I am drawing a blank here guys. I have something that is using up to 2.
[03:58] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: are you telling me i should not do the gui method?
[03:58] <Werenerd> 2.5 mbit of my eth0
[03:59] <Werenerd> Is there an application that will identify what is using the network device?
[03:59] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: what is your current suggestion for me - how use the update manager?
[04:00] <DaskreeCh> Werenerd: snort
[04:00] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: Ah seems they may have taken out update-manager
[04:00] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: ok, go on
[04:00] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: I think you are set to only update to LTS
[04:01] <DaskreeCh> !broadcom | francisco_
[04:01] <Werenerd> DaskreeCh: aside from that being funny,  what do you think of that app?
[04:01] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: hmm.  1) why? 2) how? 3) how can i get upgraded to 9.10?
[04:02] <DaskreeCh> Werenerd: It's well known and pretty well renowned. You can try wireshark as well though that's more a of a network hacking monitor
[04:02] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: does alt+F2 -> update-notifier-kde -u find 9.10 ?
[04:03] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: oh umm can you check if update-manager-core is installed?
[04:04] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh:    alt+F2 -> update-notifier-kde -u   says: no new upgrade availale
[04:05] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: ii  update-manager-core         1:0.111.10                  manage release upgrades
[04:06] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: suggestions?
[04:08] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: grep rompt /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[04:09] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: Prompt=normal
[04:09] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: What does it say?
[04:09] <DaskreeCh> Curses!
[04:10] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: one of those days, eh?  what's the prolem?
[04:11] <DaskreeCh> after this it's starting to look at network proxy issues I think
[04:11] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: ok, here's a thought:
[04:11] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: right now i'm direct on the internet,
[04:12] <DaskreeCh> right
[04:12] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: but, usually i connect with celll phone isp,
[04:12] <DaskreeCh> Ah yeah perhaps
[04:12] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: that isp has a proxy,
[04:13] <Werenerd> DaskreeCh: actually, you lead me down the right path. I think Etherape will do teh trick for me. Unfortunately it is a GTK app
[04:13] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: which has required me to set up something for apt, to get through that proxy,
[04:13] <DaskreeCh> sudo http_proxy="http://ip:port" do-release-upgrade
[04:13] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: I haven't disabled that, iirc.  i sset it up  a long time ago & i'm not sure exactly what or where the setting is, prob in /etc/apt?
[04:14] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: I'm confused as to why -d works though
[04:16] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: actually, checking /etc/apt, i now _donot_ have that file (apt.conf) in place.  I've renamed that file to .back, so the "Acquire::http::Proxy "http://wap.metropcs.net:3128/";" line is _not_ in place right now.
[04:17] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: i renamed that file a month ago, probably to let me apt-update on the direct inet connection.
[04:18] <DaskreeCh> and apt-cache policy  kubuntu-desktop says wht is the candidate?
[04:18] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: actually, i'm accessing the inet through a wireless network, so i'm not wired to the net, but iirc there is no proxy blocking my computer even though i'm using wifi.
[04:20] <DaskreeCh> ^^^^ rejohn1
[04:21] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: kubuntu-desktop:  Installed: 1.122   Candidate: 1.122   Version table:  *** 1.122 0 500 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages  100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[04:22] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: thoughts?
[04:23] <DaskreeCh> kick sudo do-release-upgrade ?
[04:23] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: meaning?  "kidk"? -- is that a command?
[04:24] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: no I mean find very thick shoes and kick the commands behind as hard as you can then shout "Get to work" at it
[04:26] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: as root, not using sudo, "do-release-upgrade" > "no new release found"
[04:26] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: I'm guessing you ran apt-get update already?
[04:26] <rejohn1> rejohn: yes
[04:26] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: "apt-get update"  then "apt-get dist-upgrade"  erarlier today
[04:27] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: suggestions?
[04:27] <DaskreeCh> I"m sorely tempted to do a manual upgrade
[04:28] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: how many steps, aprox, is that?  &, does the "do-r-u" thing run a script that checks stuff, & moves stuff around, etc?
[04:29] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: where's the procedure for manual upgrade - url?
[04:29] <DaskreeCh> There is none
[04:30] <DaskreeCh> It's just something I used to do before I got lazy and did things the supported way
[04:30] <DaskreeCh> what does do-release-upgrade -m say ?
[04:30] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: what's your position in the KU project? just a user, or do you work for cannonical?
[04:30] <DaskreeCh> what does do-release-upgrade -m desktop sorry
[04:32] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh:  Checking for a new ubuntu release  No new release found
[04:32] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: basically no one in KU works for Canonical
[04:32] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1:  replace desktop with server
[04:33] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: what do you think the cause of my upgrade inability is: is it a Ub or KUb issue?
[04:34] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: 2) replace d w server:  do you mean using a sw upgrade procedure, or by doing a reinstall ala from cd?
[04:34] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: 3) might i just dl & install KU 910 from cd?
[04:35] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: do-release-upgrade -m server is what I mean
[04:37] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: pull http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/9.10/kubuntu-9.10-alternate-i386.iso while we wait
[04:38] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo do-release-upgrade
[04:38] <fa4anaheim> I need help applying a patch...
[04:41] <DaskreeCh> hi francisco_
[04:41] <fa4anaheim> ...
[04:41] <francisco_> hi
[04:41] <DaskreeCh> fa4anaheim: and?
[04:41] <francisco_> sorry i was trying to solve the problem i have with your directions
[04:42] <fa4anaheim> I need help applying a patch...
[04:42] <DaskreeCh> fa4anaheim: ok
[04:42] <fa4anaheim> It's for the apple keyboard, specifically the "FN" key...
[04:43] <DaskreeCh> right
[04:44] <lordars> hola kopete 0.80.2 dice que soporta webcam pero no envia ni resive alguien sabe como puedo hacer
[04:44] <fa4anaheim> I have the .gz in my home dir
[04:44] <iconmefisto> !es | lordars
[04:45] <DaskreeCh> fa4anaheim: ok good
[04:45] <DaskreeCh> francisco_: what's the problem?
[04:46] <fa4anaheim> So I "gunzip xkb-apple-aluminium-kdb-iso.patch.gz | patch -p1...
[04:46] <DaskreeCh> right
[04:47] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: "No new release found"
[04:47] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: i'm dl'ing the cd. any other suggestions? any idea what the cause of the problem is?
[04:47] <fa4anaheim> ...and I get this, "gzip: xkb-apple-aluminium-kdb-iso.patch: unknown suffix -- ignored"
[04:48] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: None. It should check the version of some of your key files and check that against the server
[04:48] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: can you run grep armi /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[04:52] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: finds nothing matching
[04:53] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: Ok that's good
[04:54] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: who writes the "do-release-upgrade"? Ub, or KUB people?
[04:56] <DaskreeCh> ub
[04:56] <DaskreeCh> You can open it in a text editorand look at it
[04:58] <McLinux> hi hi.. i'm a new kde4 user
[04:59] <McLinux> i'm usually a GNOME user, i am just trying out KDE4.. was wondering if anyone here has experience in setting Kubuntu (KDE4) up for netbooks...
[05:00] <DaskreeCh> francisco_: can you run lsmod | grep b43 ?
[05:00] <DaskreeCh> McLinux: you mean the netbook edition of KDE ?
[05:00] <francisco_> ok wait
[05:00] <McLinux> i have the ubuntu netbook remix.. just installed kubuntu-desktop
[05:00] <McLinux> its a little tight for space (particularyl on taskbar, etc)
[05:01] <francisco_> yes nothing appear DaskreeCh
[05:01] <DaskreeCh> McLinux: sudo apt-get install plasma-netbook
[05:01] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: suggestions?  Do you think someone in #ubuntu might have a valueable insight on this?
[05:02] <DaskreeCh> I think it's possible but I think they would be as confused
[05:02] <McLinux> hm
[05:02] <McLinux> what exactly is that.. i've just installed it
[05:03] <McLinux> relog and see the difference ?
[05:03] <DaskreeCh> Blah
[05:05] <papashou> oh i see
[05:05] <papashou> rahter interesting
[05:05] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: what do you do IRL ;)
[05:05] <McLinux> there's still a taskbar on the bottom + icons on the top?
[05:06] <Roasted> so, Im a little confused about something. Im on two laptops right now. a mac, and a kubuntu laptop. Tthe mac sees my samba server. The kubuntu laptop does not. Why??
[05:07] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: Curse programs that don't do  what they say they should do
[05:08] <DaskreeCh> McLinux: press alt+F2 and type kquitapp plasma-desktop
[05:08] <DaskreeCh> McLinux: Does the taskbar go away?
[05:08] <Tiders> Ive been looking into it and Kubuntu looks a like it might be a lot "prettier" for my gaming box... Will I lose any speed and how hard is it to get used ot the new environment?
[05:08] <McLinux> yea it does that worked, interesting
[05:09] <McLinux> i guess i have another question.. the top bar (for kubuntu-netbook).. disappears wehn i go into an app
[05:09] <McLinux> is that typical?
[05:11] <DaskreeCh> McLinux: press alt+F2 and type plasma-netbook
[05:11] <DaskreeCh> McLinux: apps run full screen I think
[05:12] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: what company do you curse programs for?
[05:13] <DaskreeCh> Alteroo Consulting
[05:13] <McLinux> yeah not automatically though, it seems that ubuntu's default netbook remix is a little more predictable
[05:13] <DaskreeCh> McLinux: If you think that a certain action should be omni present file a bug on it
[05:14] <McLinux> i'm not going to file bugs until i understand how it functions well enough to file bugs on it.
[05:14] <McLinux> otherwise i'll add about 100 of them.
[05:15] <DaskreeCh> That's fine :)
[05:16] <McLinux> do you speak for the kde developers /
[05:17] <DaskreeCh> the kde developers speak for the kde developers
[05:17] <McLinux> so?
[05:17] <Tiders> How hard is it to get used to KDE compared to GNOME?
[05:17] <McLinux> i don't care if they speak for themselves.
[05:17] <McLinux> prob not hard at all, Tiders.. there are subtle differences but nothing like trying to push black buttons o na black screen.
[05:18] <McLinux> It's a matter of learning how it is set up and works.
[05:18] <DaskreeCh> Tiders: umm used to it? I dunno some people may never become used to it
[05:18] <Tiders> McLinux, One thing I dont understand... Do Ubuntu programs run on KDE?  Like I notice a lot of programs that are seperate does that mean things like Cedega or Crossover installed from .debs wont run?
[05:18] <DaskreeCh> They are both fairly easy to figure out
[05:18] <McLinux> anyways.. on the "home" screen.. am I supposed to see running apps in the box in the top middle ?
[05:18] <DaskreeCh> Tiders: All programs can run under both
[05:18] <McLinux> Tiders: you can run GNOME apps on KDE and vice versa.. provided you have all the libraries required.
[05:19] <DaskreeCh> McLinux: If you have apps running then yes
[05:19] <McLinux> Ok, cuz I do..a nd I don't see it there.
[05:19] <Tiders> McLinux, Oh so its just the included libraries that differentiate?
[05:19] <McLinux> The "By default" libraries, yes...
[05:20] <McLinux> really if you're running under GNOME you would try and stick to GNOME/GTK apps because that would be 'quicker' to load..
[05:20] <DaskreeCh> because Gnome already is using those libraries and has them loaded
[05:20] <McLinux> KDE apps would then appear to suffer a loading time penalty because it has to load all the libs that wasn't loaded in the absence of KDE4 desktop environment
[05:20] <DaskreeCh> opposite is true under KDE of course
[05:20] <Tiders> McLinux, But things like Crossover would still work?
[05:21] <McLinux> yes absolutely
[05:21] <McLinux> i don't think crossover is kde/gnome dependant
[05:23] <Tiders> McLinux, Hmm.. And umm hmm how does KDE work with dual displays?
[05:23] <Tiders> Same as Gnome pretty much?
[05:24] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: thanks for your help. :)  Do you get paid to do this, or are you a volunteer?
[05:24] <DaskreeCh> volunteer
[05:25] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: yr 1 bz volunteer ;)
[05:25] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: any further suggestions?
[05:25] <DaskreeCh> This is a slow time you shoudl see the week after a release
[05:25] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: I can't think of anything other than a file corruption or something's up on the servers
[05:26] <DaskreeCh> When the ISO is done I can try and do an upgrade from that
[05:26] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: i just finished dling the desktop & alternate - suggestions?
[05:27] <Tiders> SO Pidgin is Gnome dependant?
[05:28] <kedster> hello
[05:29] <DaskreeCh> Tiders: it used Gtk but no Gnome Libraries
[05:29] <DaskreeCh> it's not a Gnome application
[05:30] <Tiders> Will only THAT application run slower
[05:30] <Tiders> Or all if I have that installed / open
[05:30] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: do you have a Cd in the drive?
[05:30] <DaskreeCh> Tiders: It will not run slower it will open slower once it's open it will be the same as you are normally used to
[05:32] <McLinux> i <3 cheese and crackers
[05:34] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: I only have the dl on the hdisk.  I don't have a blank cd here.  I'll have to go home & burn cds tonight.  Can this be done from the iso on hd, or do i need a burned cd?
[05:35] <iconmefisto> you can mount the iso
[05:35] <iconmefisto> !iso
[05:35] <McLinux> !md5
[05:36] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: we can upgrade from the HDD
[05:36] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: Linux is ammmmmmaaaaazing
[05:36] <McLinux> is it really? how does it stack up against Windows 7?
[05:36] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: should I get the iso mounted now?
[05:37] <DaskreeCh> McLinux: Well ithas an operating system for one....
[05:37] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: sudo mount -o loop ~/Desktop/ubuntu-9.10-alternate-i386.iso /media/cdrom0
[05:37] <DaskreeCh> Or where ever you downloaded it to
[05:38] <McLinux> need to figure out why apps aren't populating the box in the middle
[05:38] <McLinux> i don't know that it is working reliably..
[05:39] <DaskreeCh> I'm installing now so I can get an idea what you are seeing
[05:39] <DaskreeCh> I'm on KDE 4.4 though
[05:40] <McLinux> according to the kubuntu site, app switching is only partially implemented
[05:40] <iconmefisto> DaskreeCh: kde 4.4 on karmic? or the next release (is it lynx?)
[05:40] <DaskreeCh> McLinux: you see a page one in the middle?
[05:40] <Tiders> I think the hardest thing in KDE to get used to will be the taskbar being on the bottom
[05:40] <McLinux> lucid lynx?
[05:40] <DaskreeCh> iconmefisto: Karmic
[05:40] <McLinux> i'm using karmic
[05:40] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: kdesudo "sh /media/cdrom0/cdromupgrade
[05:41] <iconmefisto> DaskreeCh: from ppa? do you have a link?
[05:41] <DaskreeCh> McLinux: app switchers are on the right
[05:41] <McLinux> DaskreeCh: unless there's another way to see what apps you have running
[05:41] <DaskreeCh> iconmefisto: www.kubuntu.org
[05:41] <McLinux> on the right?
[05:42] <McLinux> clickin the "Applications" thing.. only brings up a menu
[05:42] <McLinux> for widget settings
[05:45] <DaskreeCh> McLinux: ok I have from left to right on the taskbar Searchand Launch, Page one , Systray, Clock, Runing applicatiosn
[05:45] <DaskreeCh> McLinux: Is that what you are seeing?
[05:46] <McLinux> this is kubuntu netbook we're talkinng about, daskree ?
[05:47] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: thanks, i'm working to do the MD5 check on the iso
[05:48] <DaskreeCh> McLinux: yes
[05:53] <g_giulio> hi guys some1 can help me please with ktorrent...is not a setting problem but a strart problem with kde4,please.
[05:54] <DaskreeCh> g_giulio: More info
[05:54] <g_giulio> ùok, i've try to reinstall some times.. when i start my cpu 100%power
[05:54] <g_giulio> and
[05:55] <g_giulio> it don't work...
[05:55] <g_giulio> to stop i've to kill in top on a bash
[05:55] <DaskreeCh> Only Ktorrent does this?
[05:55] <g_giulio> but i can see it ...
[05:55] <g_giulio> jap only
[05:56] <DaskreeCh> sounds like you have a rogue tracker.
[05:56] <DaskreeCh> try moving the data from where it's downloading and stopping the torrents the next time ktorrent loads
[05:56] <g_giulio> rogue=broken?
[05:56] <DaskreeCh> You can start them one by one to see which one is making Korrent crazy
[05:56] <g_giulio> ok it was my  idea too,but i don't
[05:57] <g_giulio> know where they are...
[05:57] <DaskreeCh> You don't know where you were downloading them to?
[05:57] <g_giulio> jap 4 me i can erase and cancell all but i don't know where they are...
[05:57] <DaskreeCh> Well then try pluggin the computer out from the network then starting it
[05:58] <g_giulio> i've just done it...
[05:58] <g_giulio> restart too
[05:59] <g_giulio> maybe are the local  part of download... but i don't know where they are on kubuntu...
[06:00] <g_giulio> i've try in tem and local folder but none i have seen...
[06:00] <DaskreeCh> g_giulio: rename ~/.kde/share/config/ktorrentrc to something else then start ktorrent
[06:01] <g_giulio> ok now i try.thanks
[06:01] <g_giulio> sorry but start or  reinstall?
[06:01] <g_giulio> now i don't have ktorrent...
[06:04] <DaskreeCh> you don't have it?
[06:04] <g_giulio> now i've  cancel on my pc...
[06:05] <g_giulio> cancell and reinstall is my first try... now it isn't in my pc...
[06:06] <g_giulio> with synaptic..not alone...
[06:06] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: is it possible to boot into the desktop iso on my HD, to see if that will run on my HW, before doing an install or upgrade?
[06:08] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: The Alternate CD doesn't work like that. It's not a desktop environment
[06:08] <Tiders> Why are fonts displaying TINY TINY in Kubuntu?
[06:08] <DaskreeCh> Maybe they are set tiny?
[06:08] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: I said "desktop" cd. I've dl'd both. -is it possible to run from the dt iso?
[06:09] <Tiders> DarkriftX, Like even for this IRC client I can BARELY read the text its PUNy I have to move closer to the screeen
[06:09] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: In theory yes
[06:12] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: & in practice?
[06:13] <DaskreeCh> I don;t know I only tried it once
[06:13] <DaskreeCh> !iso
[06:13] <DaskreeCh> !burn
[06:14] <DaskreeCh> !mount
[06:14] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: both iso's md5's match,
[06:17] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: er, do you think those links show how to maount an _iso on the hd_ to be able to boot into that desktop iso ?
[06:18] <DaskreeCh> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/install-ubuntukubuntuedubuntuxubuntu-without-cdrom-drive.html
[06:18] <DaskreeCh> That does
[06:24] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: er, that's for _installing_ from the alter iso image on hd.  I was asking: is there a way to _boot_ from the Desktop (or alternate) iso which is on hd, without installing it, in order to ensure the sw works with the hw, without a physical cd being used. Is there a way to do that?
[06:27] <DaskreeCh> rejohn1: Thre was away to boot from Deskto drive. It's noted in hte arttivls
[06:28] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: noted in which archives? where do i find that?
[06:31] <g_giulio> DaskreeCh: it doesn't work.. but now i'm trying in another way.thanks too much as well
[06:39] <iconmefisto> DaskreeCh, did you solve everyone's problems? so quiet suddenly
[06:42] <DaskreeCh> I guess so
[06:44] <g_giulio> and we love 4 this...hahaha
[06:44] <g_giulio> sorry my silly but in italy are 7:30 and tonigh i've no sleep...
[06:48] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: noted in which archives? where do i find that?
[06:51] <rejohn1> DaskreeCh: thanks for your help - gotta get to sleep. Maybe i'll get bacck her abbout this in a day or few. :)
[06:54] <g_giulio> guys but i've cancel some like 10gb in a microsecond only push shift when i push delete...but kubuntu REALLY erase this file?
[06:55] <iconmefisto> shift + delete? yes, I think that erases the file instead of sending to trash
[06:59] <g_giulio> jap  shift + delete, i used the word "erase" but i don't know the difference betwin cancel and erase... i think there no difference?
[07:01] <g_giulio> sending to the trash=they are in the trash and i can see it in...        shift + delete=delate forever     it's ok?
[07:02] <g_giulio> (forever is a big word...hihihih)
[08:19] <ipm2404> any python wizards wana give me a hand?
[08:20] <ipm2404> i get an error msg everytime i try and run a pyqt script
[08:20] <ipm2404> from: can't read /var/mail/PyQt4.QtGui
[08:33] <CQ> hello, I'm trying to add a local printer to my box, but the printer configuration only has options to add network printers ... the printer is shown as a local printer hooked up to the windows host where it was before, but nowhere can I add a local printer it seems.
[08:35] <CQ> the printing manager mentioned here http://www.kubuntu.org/docs/kquickguide/C/ch02s05.html isn't there int eh current version (karmic)
 Go to System Settings>Printers. There should be a tree on the left...Network & Local...
[08:39] <CQ> got it now
[08:39] <fa4anaheim> Cool
[08:39] <jussi01> !tab | fa4anaheim
[08:39] <CQ> the button says "New network printer" and the description "Add a new printer which is connected to your home network or the internet" ... well, that wouldn't sppear to apply to USB printers, but the USB printer is listed under that option ... thats quite confisung ;)
[08:39] <fa4anaheim> ubottu: Awesome. Thx! :)
[08:40] <ocs> hi. Is there an option to automatically accept ( = without typing "yes") to install a package when performing apt-get install ?
[08:42] <fa4anaheim> ocs: apt-get install -y
[08:43] <ocs> thanks fa4anaheim
[08:44] <fa4anaheim> ocs: np
[08:51] <fa4anaheim> Dragonslicer: You got you're ears on?
[08:54] <fa4anaheim> Guess not...need help with my monitor...
[08:55] <biledemon> someone help me please!
[08:55] <fa4anaheim> biledemon: sup?
[08:55] <ghostcube> !ask
[08:56] <biledemon> my cedega don't work... i have registered and i have trial account but i can't login!
[08:57] <biledemon> someone knows what this is a bug?
[08:58] <biledemon> i asked users on #cedega... no one answer.
[08:58] <fa4anaheim> biledemon: Are you getting an error?
[08:58] <biledemon> emmm...
[08:59] <biledemon> it has logged in!
[08:59] <biledemon> no
[08:59] <biledemon> yes, error
[08:59] <fa4anaheim> biledemon: Number?
[08:59] <biledemon> no number.
[08:59] <biledemon> just X
[09:00] <biledemon> image X
[09:00] <biledemon> no text...
[09:01] <biledemon> it's over. logged in.
[09:01] <fa4anaheim> biledemon: Ok...
[09:03] <CQ> hm, I now have a printer that works from ubuntu,windows sees it and installs the correct driver, but I cet an access denied; can not connect error message from windows... any ideas?
[09:07] <fa4anaheim> CQ: Are you using Samba?
[09:07] <Mamarok> CQ: a bit more precisions would be good, different PCs or from the same with dual boot?
[09:07] <CQ> different PCs... laptop with XP, desktop with karmic
[09:07] <||arifaX> CQ: The user that prints might be not allowed to print on your linux box
[09:07] <CQ> I set it up using the KDE printer configuration wizard
[09:08] <CQ> samba is on teh ubuntu box, but not sure if the printer sharing is using it, could be, as I can browse to the printer through teh network connections from XP
[09:08] <CQ> I have connections to the ubuntu box files, they work, and I can print from that user onthe ubuntu box
[09:10] <fa4anaheim> CQ: I'm not entirely sure but you might need to enable a "guest" account in the workgroup that the printer is on...
[09:12] <CQ> http://paste.ubuntu.com/344021/ here's the part fromteh samba config...
[09:13] <CQ> it doesn't make sense though, because the printer is browseable even though samba says no ... the printer shows up under printers and faxes when browsing via the network browser
[09:17] <fa4anaheim> CQ: Try changing you're Samba settings to allow guests...Windows will prob detect the device even if it can't do anything with it...
[09:20] <CQ> did that, restarted samba, no change...
[09:20] <CQ> reboot maybeß
[09:20] <CQ> ?
[09:23] <fa4anaheim> CQ: Sorry, Yes I would reboot...
[09:24] <ghostcube> CQ: you set samaba share inside kubuntu systemsettings ?
[09:24] <ghostcube> try sawt too ....
[09:24] <ghostcube> swat
[09:32] <CQ> no lchange after the reboot...
[09:34] <fa4anaheim> CQ: Hmm, if you right click on the printer on the Windows machine, what options do you have?
[09:38] <CQ> http://www.brennan.id.au/18-Samba.html -- The "use client driver" allows non root/admin users to view the contents of the print queue on the remote server. This fixes the "Access denied, unable to connect" error that many Windows clients suffer when connecting to Samba printers.
[09:38] <CQ> that solved it.
[09:38] <FloodBotK1> CQ: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:38] <CQ> wtf? flood, for two lines? that bot#s a bit too sensitive ... ;)
[09:39] <fa4anaheim> CQ: Glad you got it working :)
[09:40] <CQ> me too :) problem was finding the right error message in english to google for it...
[09:40] <fa4anaheim> CQ: Usually is...
[09:43] <BIG> If I use wubi to install ubuntu onto my windows Xp, then surf the net through ubuntu say using it's version of mozilla firefox, is that any safer a way (virusfree/spyware free) to surf the net? I'm not talking downloading stuff just looking around...
[09:44] <CQ> big with firefox use adblock, noscript, better privacy and request policy addons... that's pretty safe.
[09:45] <fa4anaheim> BIG: CQ is right, just watch who you are downloading content from.
[09:46] <BIG> noscript sounds the best?
[09:47] <CQ> no, they all do different things... adblock and noscript should be first, then better provacy (long term tracking cookies), then request policy to show you cross site scripting (can be annoying but gives you teh most control)
[09:48] <BIG> so is surfing through ubuntu any safer/better?
[09:48] <CQ> big otherwise if you really feel like playing around, install virtualbox and install ubuntu in that ... then you're in a completely separate OS running under windows, and virtualbox doesn't give access to the underlying drives unless you explicitly allow it.
[09:50] <BIG> Ya that's what i'm thinking is ultra safe haha
[09:50] <BIG> I download virtual box, then run wubi?
[09:51] <CQ> no, in virtualbox you need to create a new virtual system... read the HOWTOS on teh wesite, they're very good
[09:52] <CQ> in parallel, download the kubuntu distribution (unless you already have the ISO for wubi, then you can use that
[09:54] <BIG> so virtual box will not be emulating ubuntu in windows it will actually be running the real deal?
[09:54] <Vroomfondle> it will be running a distinct instance of Ubuntu, inside a virtual computer within Windows
[09:54] <CQ> yes. you create a say 10GB file that becomes the hard drive, and then the entire OS is in that hard drive and virtualbox runs it
[09:54] <Vroomfondle> (in other words - yes :) )
[09:55] <BIG> biggest advantage to doing all this?
[09:56] <CQ> completely separate sstem, safe from windows, no wubi... I haven't used wubi, so I don't know how separate the ubuntu OS is when running it ...
[09:56] <Vroomfondle> BIG: this way you can't mess up your existing Windows system
[09:56] <CQ> big and if you're paranoid, you can snapshot the virtual OS and return to that state later ...
[09:57] <Vroomfondle> and you can even "checkpoint" your virtualbox system so that if you screw it up, you can just click a button to restore it to a fresh state
[10:13] <OxDeadC0de> hmm wth, baobab shows that I'm only using about 7gb of my 15gb / partition yet df -h says only 345M is available ... baobab also says my /home is using only 14.8gb but df shows 24G   23G  406M  99% /home
[10:14] <OxDeadC0de> I ran it as root when I scanned everything
[10:22] <the_cyber_guy> Dolphin file manager is not showing format option for disks like in ubuntu, is there any way to get it ?
[10:31] <Peace-> the_cyber_guy: mmm?
[10:31] <Peace-> maybe ypou should install a stuff
[10:31] <Peace-> kdiskfree
[10:31] <Peace-> i gueess
[10:32] <the_cyber_guy> Peace-: what utility you use ?
[10:34] <Peace-> the_cyber_guy: like said kdiskfree as you can see here http://imagebin.ca/view/Ht0XHu8.html
[10:34] <Peace-> kwikdisk i gueess too
[10:36] <Peace-> and here for kwikdisk http://imagebin.ca/view/CAjmJ4L.html
[10:40] <iconmefisto> format option? as in, format this disk ?
[10:41] <Peace-> iconmefisto: =?
 Dolphin file manager is not showing format option for disks like in ubuntu, is there any way to get it ?
[10:42] <Peace-> iconmefisto: he wants usage and that stuff for his hardriver
[10:42] <Peace-> hardisk
[10:43] <iconmefisto> like the device notifier plasmoid?
[10:44] <Peace-> no
[10:44] <Peace-> % usage of an hardisk
[10:46] <the_cyber_guy> i think kdeutils will do that ?
[10:48] <Peace-> the_cyber_guy: but you mean this stuff http://imagebin.ca/view/qY05Yl.html
[10:49] <Peace-> or wat?
[10:53] <the_cyber_guy> will give format this disk option in Dolphin
[11:09] <Kage_Jittai> I had a dream last night... that my "uptime" command broke, and I couldn't fix it... I ended up crying
[11:10] <Kage_Jittai> actually... I left a part out... I could fix it... but it required rebooting :(
[12:07] <shankly> kmail don't show to me all the files in a directory when I try to attach one
[12:07] <shankly> someone knows why?
[12:13] <shankly> no one? If I open the directory with dolphin I've no problem, all the files are listed. When I click on "attach" and want to select a file, some file are not listes
[12:13] <shankly> *listed
[12:18] <jussi01> shankly: are the files you refer to starting with . ?
[12:18] <shankly> no, are not hidden files
[12:19] <jussi01> shankly: strange. perhaps check the security settings in kmail?
[12:20] <shankly> know, i'm sending a mail to my office, and I have to attach a simple odt files. I've to open dolphin and to drag the file on the mail to attach him
[12:22] <shankly> jussi01: in the security settings I've no bad option selected
[13:01] <stefan___> join #ubuntu.de
[13:05] <hyper_ch> Hmm, I noticed something strange. On the canon business printer that we've got printing out from KDE apps takes a very long time. A simple email from KMail takes like 1 minute per page to print out.... PDFs in Okkular take equally long..... however if I print out from OpenOffice it's fast - as it should be. What could be the reason?
[13:37] <rav_> hello. since a couple of days ago, sometimes when a taskbar entry blinks because of a notification and I click on it, the X server restarts and sends me back to KDM. has this happened to anyone else?
[13:39] <rav_> I have the feeling it has to do with the last update of firefox, which is the only thing that has updated in the last few days
[13:46] <r00t_> hi im trying to install world of padman  and it keeps giving me the error "no perrmissiont o write to usr/locla/games. how would i fix this.
[13:47] <rav_> r00t_: how are you installing?
[13:48] <r00t_> im not sure i downloaded worldofpadman.run made it executabel/read/write  thats abot as many details as i can give you. im not that gvreat at linux yet.
[13:51] <Kolia> r00t_: run it from command line, with sudo before it
[13:51] <Kolia> to run it as root
[13:52] <r00t_> Kolia: thanks.
[14:15] <hyper_ch> Hmm, I noticed something strange. On the canon business printer that we've got printing out from KDE apps takes a very long time. A simple email from KMail takes like 1 minute per page to print out.... PDFs in Okkular take equally long..... however if I print out from OpenOffice it's fast - as it should be. What could be the reason?
[14:15] <mime> hello! thnx for the help. my question is : can i use kubuntu 9,04 auddio driver on opensuse 11.2?
[14:15] <mime> and if, that would fish my jack sense issue?
[14:15] <mime> fix
[14:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:20] <hyper_ch> mime: I tend to think that's not a wise idea to mix packages like that
[14:20] <mime> ok
[14:20] <iconmefisto> mime: probably better to ask opensuse people
[14:20] <iconmefisto> but I wouldn't try it
[14:20] <mime> but i cant uderstand why sound in kubuntu 9.04 permit me both built in and external, and koala not
[14:21] <mime> i want both built in and external woofers
[14:22] <mime> and i just cant understand why is not a shitty option to switch /unswitch easily on and off
[14:22] <mime> do u think its impossible?
[14:38] <matteo1990> hi all, i have succeded setting a wireless network under gentoo with ifconfig and route. I tried the same under Kubuntu (my network manager didn't work good) but my ping don't work... Under Ubuntu i get no loopback w device... Why?
[14:44] <BluesKaj> matteo1990, pastebin your /etc/network /interfaces file so we can have a look
[14:44] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[14:46] <matteo1990> BluesKaj Thats a problem because i don't have connection on that pc... I can grep a line or two if you say me what you need
[14:51] <BluesKaj> matteo1990, do you have an entry ,  auto lo iface lo inet loopback
[14:52] <matteo1990> BluesKaj Yes i have
[14:52] <BluesKaj> ok have you run iwconfig ?
[14:53] <matteo1990> BluesKaj but if i make route -n i get only wlan0 entry
[14:53] <BluesKaj> also run ifup
[14:55] <matteo1990> BluesKaj i have run iwconfig
[14:56] <BluesKaj> staic ip ?
[14:56] <BluesKaj> static ip
[14:56] <matteo1990> BluesKaj Under acces Point i get ( Not aSSOCIATED) is this normal?
[14:57] <matteo1990> BluesKaj i have setted as ip the same of this other pc with the last number ++
[14:59] <BluesKaj> matteo1990,  Not aSSOCIATED usually happens when there's an eth0 connection as well
[14:59] <BluesKaj> wired
[15:00] <matteo1990> BluesKaj i have no wired plugged in
[15:01] <matteo1990> BluesKaj If i launch ifconfig i can read lots of ethernet devices
[15:01] <matteo1990> BluesKaj wlan0 too
[15:04] <matteo1990> BluesKaj I mean wlan0 is listed also with ifconfig as ethernet...
[15:05] <BluesKaj> matteo1990, do you know your modem/router gateway ip ?
[15:07] <matteo1990> BluesKaj How to know it? i tried with the same ip of this laptop (setted with gnome network manager) changing the last number. It seems to work with gentoo.
[15:08] <BluesKaj> sorry matteo1990 , I have to leave for 20mins or so...BBL
[15:08] <matteo1990> BluesKaj if you came back maybe try to msg me :) Thx alot aniway
[15:11] <matteo1990> I am having problems connecting to my wireless network under Kubuntu, anyone may hel me? I can see the Network but i get a uellow exclamation dot at the left of his name...
[15:13] <soee> hi
[15:13] <shadeslayer> soee: hey
[15:17] <r00t_> hi id like to add a functinality toteh search bar at the top ofthe K menu. id like to be able to not oly search my menu but also use the input field as a place to run comands. IE if firefox isnt on my menu id like to be able to type firefox in and run it form my menu.\
[15:17] <r00t_> is this even possible?
[15:17] <shadeslayer> r00t_: its the default functionality
[15:17] <Tiders> Does the Kubuntu alternate install CD support hardware RAID just like the Ubuntu one?
[15:18] <shadeslayer> Tiders: it should
[15:18] <r00t_> Also is the  new kubuntu stable enough to try out for a nooB?
[15:18] <shadeslayer> r00t_: all releases are stable
[15:18] <r00t_> shadeslayer:  i was wondering about the beta
[15:18] <shadeslayer> r00t_: lucid?
[15:18] <r00t_> yes
[15:18] <Tiders> shadeslayer, Okay cause Ive decided that its not Ubuntu as a whole thats causing me grief its GNOME that is so limited
[15:19] <r00t_> isnt there a channle for lucid?
[15:20] <shadeslayer> r00t_: yes : #kubuntu+1
[15:22] <millun> hi, how can i know what is using my /dev/dsp?
[15:27] <matteo1990> iwconfig wlan0 ap (address) seems not to change my wireless access point settings, and it still is "not associated".. any tips?
[15:32] <Machtin> hey guys. which tool would i want, if i'm trying to edit a pdf-file?
[15:32] <shadeslayer> Machtin: pdfeditor
[15:32] <shadeslayer> !info pdfeditor | Machtin
[15:33] <Machtin> hm, k.. guess you mean pdfedit
[15:34] <shadeslayer> Machtin: yeah... i didnt remember the exact name :P
[15:38] <Machtin> hm.. somehow i just don't understand how that tool works.
[15:38] <shadeslayer> Machtin: pdfedit?
[15:39] <Machtin> yup
[15:39] <Machtin> just reading a tutorial
[15:40] <Machtin> but it doesn't work as described
[15:41] <shadeslayer> Machtin: never used it :P ... have a look at the docs
[15:41] <Machtin> i fear it's a problem with the pdf
[15:42] <shadeslayer> Machtin: :P
[15:43] <Machtin> but come one.. pdfs are bitches sometimes :/
[15:44] <shadeslayer> Machtin: language please
[15:44] <Machtin> oh.. pardon.
[15:45] <iconmefisto> what does pdfedit not do?
[15:45] <Machtin> edit my pdf file!
[15:45] <iconmefisto> edit how?
[15:45] <Machtin> well.. inserting text in blank fields
[15:45] <Machtin> or.. instead of "_____________"
[15:45] <matteo1990> iwconfig wlan0 ap (address) seems not to change my wireless access point settings, and it still is "not associated".. any tips?
[15:48] <iconmefisto> Machtin: insert new text? or change existing text?
[15:48] <bibii> Hi ppl!
[15:50] <bibii> than spans?
[15:52] <bibii> !help
[15:53] <iconmefisto> Machtin: use the "select text" tool to select text you want to change. it will show up just below the toolbar, top left
[15:53] <iconmefisto> Machtin: you can change the text in that box
[15:54] <iconmefisto> Machtin: if you want to add new text somewhere, use the "add text" tool
[15:54] <papisissoko> bjr
[15:56] <kavurt> Machtin: you can try KRITA
[16:01] <Machtin> thanks guys.. i'll try that
[16:02] <michi_> hey guys, I have no sound playback with pulseaudio under kubuntu 9.10 - can u help me?
[16:02] <kavurt> pulseaudio sucks. I removed it completely
[16:03] <michi_> yeah but then i have a problem with simulatanous playback in different applications
[16:03] <michi_> so i switched to pulseaoudio
[16:03] <Ryguy__> I have three HDDs installed on my computer and on Windows 7 (Which I'm currently on) I can see all three.. Two are partitioned and one has no partitions on it at all. Now in the Kubuntu 9.10 installation, it can only see two HDDs. What's going on? Even when I partition the empty drive to NTFS in Windows, the Kubuntu installation cannot find the drive. I just ran some tests with the Seagate HDD tester and all HDDs passed fine.
[16:04] <Machtin> iconmefisto: right.. i didn't see that. but if i enter text there.. it just displays some broken stuff
[16:07] <michi_> Well can somebody tell me at least if theres a way to enable simultanous playback (like hardware mixing) in kubuntu with ALSA without pulseaudio?
[16:08] <Ryguy__> michi_: Why are you trying to play two things at once?
[16:08] <sayed> slttt tt le mondeeeee
[16:08] <matteo1990> iwconfig wlan0 ap (address) seems not to change my wireless access point settings, and it still is "not associated".. any tips?
[16:09] <michi_> Ryguy, for example i like to play Heroes of Newerth (new game with linux client) and also have linux version of teamspeak running. - and just teamspeaks has audio playback and record and no sound in the game
[16:10] <Ryguy__> hm.. Did you try updating ALSA?
[16:10] <michi_> yes have 1.0.22
[16:10] <osos> i had the same problem.
[16:10] <osos> installing pulseaudio fixed it for me.
[16:11] <Ryguy__> yeah he installed pulseaudio but wants to figure out why alsa would do that, I believe
[16:11] <michi_> installing pulseaudio resulted in have no sound at all
[16:11] <michi_> in my case
[16:11] <osos> and you configured it?
[16:11] <Ryguy__> you're using onboard audio or do you have a sound card?
[16:12] <michi_> i have onbourd intel hda sound and a hdmi sound chip on my ati grafic card which i dont use
[16:12] <michi_> i configured it in the way that i unmuted the volumebars
[16:12] <michi_> so i use onboard sound.
[16:13] <osos> the default audio-stream for an application is for some reason rtp multicast.
[16:13] <abhi_> hello
[16:13] <osos> which results in having no sound.
[16:13] <osos> change it to internal audio and voilá
[16:13] <Ryguy__> does your motherboard have linux drivers?
[16:14] <osos> i have a intel hda as well.
[16:14] <jimmy51_> i'm getting failures an any attempt to burn a CD
[16:14] <jimmy51_> fresh kubuntu 9.10 + updates
[16:14] <michi_> oh i try. that thx osos. - i dont use drivers of my motherboard manufacturer.. dont know if there are some... but alsa should be fine with onbourd sound in *.22 version as i read
[16:16] <michi_> osos u said internal audio, I cant find the option.. do u mean i have to enable multicast/rtp sender -> create seperate audio device for multicast ?
[16:18] <osos> when you start an application that needs audio resources pulseaudio automatically takes a hold of the resources
[16:18] <osos> you don't need to generate anything.
[16:19] <osos> volume ctrl -> playback
[16:19] <osos> or output devices.
[16:19] <osos> can't remember which.
[16:19] <iconmefisto> michi_: http://kubuntuguide.org/Karmic#PulseAudio
[16:20] <iconmefisto> pulseaudio really needs a nice looking plasmoid for kde
[16:21] <michi_> y thx, i look at the manual again
[16:26] <michi_> strange, i can see the sound bars pitch up and down while playing sound, but i dont hear anything...and yes my speakers are on and loud^^
[16:26] <iconmefisto> michi_: do you have more than one soundcard?
[16:27] <michi_> y, onboard (in use) and ati grafic hdmi chip (dont wanna use)
[16:27] <osos> i have the exact same problem with intel hda.
[16:27] <osos> with the default settings i mean.
[16:27] <osos> w/o pulse
[16:27] <michi_> y onbourd is intel hda with me too
[16:27] <michi_> alsa driver updated on *.22
[16:28] <jimmy51_> i'm running k3b as root because it was givving permission errors.  now as root i keep getting failed burns (it says to try TAO, but TAO doesn't help).  why doesn't this just work like on every other machine i run 9.10 on?
[16:28] <iconmefisto> I couldn't get all sound out of the right soundcard, in the end I disable the soundcard I didn't want
[16:28] <jimmy51_> i've just toasted 16 CD's with different settings on speed, write mode, permissions, etc
[16:30] <michi_> the only way to disable the other soundcard is by removing it, thats what kubuntu does automatically on restart. i did so - but still no sound
[16:30] <michi_> before using pulseaudio onboard sound was working fine... just pulseaudio not
[16:30] <iconmefisto> jimmy51_: try running k3bsetup first
[16:31] <jimmy51_> iconmefisto: i've run that.  it has root and cdrom set, and i've confirmed i'm in cdrom
[16:31] <jimmy51_> i've also just run with sudo in case that were the problem
[16:31] <michi_> another thing i read in forums was to bring pulseaudio at the top of all listed sound devices for it to have first device priority. but still no luck
[16:32] <jimmy51_> i've also just run with sudo in case that were the problem
[16:32] <jimmy51_> (sorry for the dupe)
[16:32] <iconmefisto> jimmy51_: shouldn't need sudo. but in any case, you should use kdesudo for gui programs, not sudo
[16:34] <matteo1990> iwconfig wlan0 ap (address) seems not to change my wireless access point settings, and it still is "not associated"..  if i try to run Dmesg i get ( wlan0 connected and then  disassociating by local choice (reason=3) Any TIps?
[16:35] <jimmy51_> iconmefisto: here's my log http://www.pastebin.org/67374
[16:35] <jimmy51_> it says cannot write medium - incompatible format.  it's a CD-R
[16:37] <michi_> Im going to restart - maybe until later
[16:42] <jimmy51_> is there some big bug that prevents CD burning on newer burners?
[16:43] <iconmefisto> jimmy51_: is it new? are you sure it works?
[16:44] <iconmefisto> how about dvd burning? does that work
[16:44] <Machtin> what should i do if pdfedit doesn't work?
[16:45] <michi__> osos, iconmefisto: sound works! lol dont know what i ve done different but hey, jippii - played around with interal audio device maybe it was that
[16:45] <Machtin> and with "doesn't work" i mean: i can't edit text.. it's screwed up after editing it.
[16:45] <jimmy51_> i'll try a DVD
[16:45] <osos> michi__: congrats.
[16:45] <michi__> -)
[16:45] <michi__> :-)
[16:46] <Machtin> or: how can i check which font a text is written in pdfedit?
[16:46] <ionut> i am having problems with ubuntu one .It gives me this error: "Authorization Failed- Error showing url: Failed to execute chil...firefox/firefox"(No such file or directory )
[16:46] <osos> michi__: :)
[16:46] <iconmefisto> pulseaudio is pretty cool once you get it working properly. I use it to stream sound from my audio-less laptop to my desktop machine
[16:47] <michi__> iconmefisto: well i hope i can claim that to once i get heroes of newerth, teamspeak and kompete simultanously working^
[16:47] <michi__> thx alot for now
[16:47] <jimmy51_> iconmefisto: dvd failed.
[16:48] <jimmy51_> iconmefisto: when i received the machine it had win7 on it and it was able to burn
[16:51] <jimmy51_> iconmefisto: i'll swap into another machine just to make sure it hasn't died
[16:51] <jimmy51_> iconmefisto: shutting down to swap.  have a nice day!
[16:59] <matteo1990> i cannot connect to my wireless network in Kubuntu... Th network manager see it but if i double click on it i can't connect... I have a yellow dot  near the name... The same pc worked fine with ubuntu.. ANyone may help me?
[17:01] <Nick112> I need help installing java :s
[17:03] <soee> Nick112: whats ur problem with java ?
[17:03] <Nick112> soee: I've installed it using the instructions of the java website, but my java -version remains 1.6.0_0
[17:03] <Nick112> soee: When it should be 1.6.0_17
[17:06] <kavurt> is there a CPU temperature monitor in Karmic?
[17:06] <Nick112> kavurt: It's in the widgets
[17:06] <soee> Nick112: are u hecking ver using the applet on java page ?
[17:06] <kavurt> thx
[17:06] <Nick112> soee: Yes, both that and java -version
[17:07] <Nick112> soee: They both give me the same version, 1.6.0_0
[17:07] <soee> hmm, i have java installed from repositories and ith 6 update 17
[17:08] <Nick112> soee: The repository version stays at 1.6.0_0 as well
[17:13] <atul> How to activate Kubuntu in Ubuntu as I already INstall Kubuntu on My Ubuntu Machine ?
[17:13] <llutz> atul: switch session in kdm/gdm to kde
[17:14] <atul> llutz: oh thanks
[17:14] <Nick112> soee: I just checked the jcontrol, it found the 1.6.0_17, and I disabled and then enabled it, and I'm still 1.6.0_0 apparently
[17:15] <soee> Nick112: i think i cant help you :/ dunno wheres the problem
[17:15] <Nick112> I'll post on ubuntu forums then
[17:16] <wathek> hello all
[17:16] <wathek> got a question is there any repos with Qt 4.6 ?
[17:17] <atul_> llutz: can I get the command to stop gdm and set the default kdm ?
[17:17] <wathek> I think I found it !
[17:17] <llutz> atul_: try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm"
[17:18] <atul_> llutz: ok thanks
[17:18] <michi__> Hey again, hey osos and hey to all who want to play Heroes of Newerth and have no sound ingame with pulseaudio. I found a great hint. Follow this info: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=525906
[17:23] <soee> michi__: whats Heroes Of Newearth ? :D
[17:24] <michi__> soee: if u know what DotA is, that thats the sequal to it so to say. - A nice new game for win, LINUX and Mac. see: http://www.heroesofnewerth.com
[17:25] <michi__> strategy game
[17:25] <soee> michi__: its free or smth ?
[17:25] <michi__> the beta phase in which it is was free but is going to be commercial
[17:25] <soee> ah ok
[17:35] <Galvatron> I've got some long-term problems with my Kubuntu 9.04.  When I use Opera and browse a certain website, system hangs and the only responsig thing is "jumping" (not fluently moving) cursor. The other thing is that my monitor suddenly shuts down without reason just before or shortly after loading desktop
[17:36] <Galvatron> My VGA is Radeon 9200SE with open drivers
[17:40] <dariom> Hi guys! Anyone knowing an easy way to configure my scanner buttons?
[17:42] <dariom> Galvatron: have u ever updated your system packages
[17:42] <dariom> or tried kubuntu 9.10?
[17:45] <Galvatron> All up to date
[17:45] <Galvatron> I came back from 9.10 due to X problems
[17:46] <Tiders-> Are the Kubuntu download servers seriously down....
[17:46] <Galvatron> It was pretty unstable
[17:46] <dariom> ah ok, so in 9.10 it was even worse
[17:46] <dariom> bbl..
[17:47] <Galvatron> In 9.10 I must switch to DRI2, to retrieve stability, but it causes serious performance drop
[17:47] <jpedroza> Can anyone point me to a decent XML editor for Kubuntu? I have used Oxygen on Mac and Windows, but am not aware of a GPL compliant editor.
[17:48] <dariom> Galvatron, I would google a little bit around if there is someone else
[17:48] <dariom> with the same problems you told me
[17:48] <Galvatron> I tried, but I don't really know how to ask Google
[17:49] <Galvatron> Plus I'm not sure what causes the problem - X, drivers, Compiz maybe?
[17:49] <Galvatron> X is just my guess
[17:50] <genii> Compiz and KDE don't play well since they both want to grab ahold of the compositing
[17:50] <Galvatron> I disabled Kwin ;)
[17:50] <Galvatron> Fully
[17:55] <HeTo> enabling compositing on kubuntu 9.10 replaces the desktop with blackness
[17:55] <HeTo> so I don't see the wall paper or the folder view I've put on the desktop
[17:56] <HeTo> any ideas?
[17:57] <dariom> HeTo, Galvatron: could be something related to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/444139 ??
[17:57] <HeTo> I'm using kwin, and the hardware is a ThinkPad T40p with a Mobility FireGL 9000, using the radeon driver
[17:57] <dariom> even if I don't have any clue of this problem.. was just googling around..
[17:58] <Galvatron> I have 9.04 not 9.10 ;)
[17:59] <HeTo> dariom: the symptoms look correct on that bug
[17:59] <dariom> HeTo: there is also a solution posted
[18:00] <dariom> try with that one, many people reported it to solve your problem
[18:01] <dariom> Galvatron: what about proprietary drivers?
[18:01] <Galvatron> There are none form my VGA
[18:01] <Galvatron> Or rther they don't work with my X
[18:02] <Galvatron> Installing them always ends up with system starting without X etc.
[18:03] <Shura> Hi, will KDE SC 4.4 B2 be packaged in 9.10 ?
[18:03] <dariom> Galvatron: yeah, I've just read it, it's true
[18:03] <dariom> wtf..
[18:05] <Galvatron> I just reinstalled broken xserver-xorg-video-all + non-broken xserver-xorg-video-ati
[18:05] <Galvatron> And reconfigured X to use kernel framebuffer
[18:07] <Galvatron> Wonder If system will reboot properly...
[18:09] <dariom> Galvatron: good luck.. I'm not sure I can help you.. :(
[18:12] <dariom> Galvatron: also try to take a look here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=476893
[18:13] <HeTo> dariom: wow, the solution worked, I wonder why I didn't find the bug with kubuntu compositing black desktop search terms
[18:14] <dariom> HeTo: it's because of my magic powers, so don't worry :P
[18:14] <Novice> Is there a i686 iso image of kubuntu?
[18:15] <Galvatron> Could you takea look on my xorg.conf?
[18:16] <genii> Novice: i386 is the generic name for all the x86 ones.
[18:16] <dariom> Galvatron: I'm really not an expert of xorg.. sorry
[18:16] <dariom> I'm just a googling expert.. :P
[18:17] <Galvatron> OK
[18:17] <Galvatron> I will just observe the system and see If what I did helped ;)
[18:17] <dariom> keep asking here and there, maybe someone can solve your problem
[18:17] <dariom> I would also ask to #ubuntu forum
[18:17] <Galvatron> Cya
[18:18] <dariom> bye
[18:18] <Galvatron> Almost forgot
[18:18] <Galvatron> Is installing KDE SC 4.4 beta on 9.04 safe?
[18:19] <Galvatron> Won't using Karmic repository mess my system (dependency hell etc.)?
[18:19] <tsimpson> it will almost certainly break something
[18:20] <Galvatron> Then I'll wait for stable Lucid
[18:22] <camilo> mujeres
[18:26] <lucas_> hello
[18:26] <lucas_> just wanted to know if there is any app like spolight for kde??
[18:28] <soee> i see that kde 4.4 beta 2 is ready, so when can we expect packages for kubuntu ?
[18:28] <lucas_> soee: they already are... just search kubuntu ppa on google
[18:28] <hagabaka> beta 2?
[18:29] <soee> hmm
[18:29] <soee> hagabaka: http://kde.org/announcements/announce-4.4-beta2.php
[18:29] <hagabaka> I know, but I was saying to lucas
[18:30] <hagabaka> only beta1 packages seem to be on ppa
[18:30] <soee> you
[18:30] <soee> *yup
[18:30] <lucas_> its still very buggy... i wouldnt try them yet
[18:30] <soee> im using beta 1
[18:30] <hagabaka> me too
[18:31] <soee> now so if tehy fixed some bugs its better to update
[18:31] <lucas_> im still with 4.3.4
[18:31] <lucas_> i dont know...... ive tried 4.4 but its really buggy still
[18:31] <hagabaka> compositing will hopefully work for me in beta 2
[18:31] <soee> lucas_: yes tehre are some bugs but it looks and works realy nice for me
[18:32] <lucas_> ur lucky
[18:34] <iconmefisto> what is spotlight?
[18:36] <iconmefisto> lucas_: spotlight is desktop search on mac, right?
[18:37] <lucas_> yeah iconmefisto, but i dont know which app would do the same thing on kde...
[18:37] <iconmefisto> desktop search, enable it in systemsettings, advanced
[18:38] <iconmefisto> then search in the alt-F2 dialog
[18:39] <iconmefisto> lucas_: btw, you don't need to enable strigi (which indexes file contents for searching, rather than just filenames)
[18:39] <lucas_> iconmefisto: yeah but i have another partition not just /home
[18:44] <mahmood> first time in an IRC channel
[18:44] <mahmood> :D
[19:21] <Nick112> When I install Java, it installs 6u15 isntead of 6u17..
[19:21] <Nick112> And the download off the Java website doesn't even install
[19:23] <Nick112> Does anyone know how to help me?
[19:26] <Nick112> Please someone?
[19:28] <Nick112> Nevermind, Ill go somewhere else
[19:30] <judgen_> What is the name of the app for controlling what effects kwin is to use?
[19:32] <Peace-> judgen_: system settings
[19:32] <Peace-> judgen_: systemsettings
[19:32] <Peace-> dekstop
[19:32] <Peace-> effects
[19:32] <judgen_> cant find the setting-
[19:33] <judgen_> is it not included in kdebase?
[19:33] <Peace-> you can't see systemsettings?
[19:33] <Peace-> omg what have you done?
[19:33] <judgen_> yes i can, but i cant find the setting in systemsettings
[19:33] <Peace-> select desktp
[19:33] <Peace-> desktop
[19:34] <judgen_> aaah thanks
[19:34] <judgen_> i thought it to be within the kwin settings as a whol
[19:34] <judgen_> e
[19:34] <Peace-> omg
[19:34] <Roasted> I just got thunderbird in kubuntu to play nice with the windows exchange server at work - but I cant hit the global address list. Is there a way to do this?
[19:36] <judgen_> Peace-: do you know how i can change from meta+- shortcuts (i dont have a windows key on my keyboard.)
[19:36] <judgen_> i want to use alt instead
[19:36] <Peace-> always on systemsettings kid
[19:37] <judgen_> i see the own button, but id does not seem to accept mouse scrolling as a valid selection
[19:40] <judgen_> oh i was still using kwin3. sorry
[19:45] <judgen_> kwin --replace =) now i got zooming as i like it.
[19:55] <jimmy51_> !!  it looks like the kubuntu baseball cap is available to US customers now !!
[19:55] <jimmy51_> ordering today :)
[19:55] <soee> woot ?
[19:56] <cuznt> !botsnack
[20:02] <csc2> hello
[20:03] <csc2> is there any small (in size , < 1GB) ubuntu-based ditro ?
[20:04] <versuchsanstalt> whats the one true easy way (tm) to configure xorg (nvidia) with kubuntu?
[20:04] <cH40z-Lord> csc2 every disto is <1gb
[20:05] <soee> :}
[20:05] <csc2> cH40z-Lord, i meant after having installed it
[20:06] <csc2> i remember the first linux distros when you could choose ever single package for the installation
[20:06] <csc2> i miss those days
[20:06] <versuchsanstalt> how can i configure xorg from the console, maybe automatically or guided
[20:06] <versuchsanstalt> ?
[20:07] <genii> versuchsanstalt: Try sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xorg
[20:07] <jimmy51_> !crdtools
[20:07] <jimmy51_> !crdtool
[20:07] <versuchsanstalt> genii: aaah, i wasnt aware of -plow. thank you, genii
[20:08] <jimmy51_> is crdtools in a package?
[20:10] <llutz> jimmy51_: nope
[20:10] <llutz> jimmy51_: only wodim, the fork
[20:10] <jimmy51_> llutz: ok.  is wodim pretty much up to date on crdtools bug fixes and updates?
[20:11] <llutz> jimmy51_: not at all
[20:11] <jimmy51_> doh
[20:11] <genii> !info dvd+rw-tools
[20:12] <llutz> jimmy51_: get it from http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/cdrecord.html , build it, be happy :)
[20:12] <jimmy51_> llutz: i shudder with apps that aren't through my handy package manager!
[20:12] <jimmy51_> :)
[20:13] <llutz> jimmy51_: me too, but this is an exception. due to license-changes, cdrtools aren't available in any repo i guess
[20:15] <ubuntu_> Hello, i was turning my computer off to fast so Grub failed anyone know how to fix this without reinstalling the Whole Kubuntu System?
[20:16] <iconmefisto> !grub
[20:16] <jimmy51_> ubuntu_:  i've used supergrub in the past.
[20:17] <yoyo> !grub2
[20:18] <ubuntu_> iam using Grub1
[20:18] <ubuntu_> jimmy51_: :o ok
[20:18] <ubuntu_> what does SuperGrub do?
[20:20] <jimmy51_> ubuntu_: you download a burnable ISO that is bootable.
[20:20] <ubuntu_> and then it will fix grub or?
[20:21] <jimmy51_> ubuntu_: it can act as your bootloader temporarily, or let you repair what's on your drive
[20:21] <ubuntu_> ah i want to repair my /boot
[20:21] <ubuntu_> or make a new one
[20:27] <ubuntu_> somone know of any good repair grub live CD?
[20:28] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Pretty much any live CD will work, but you're gonna have to read the directions, nobody's going to fix it for you.
[20:28] <ubuntu_> jhutchins: i was thinking if there was a CD just for making a new GRUB folder
[20:29] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Many.
[20:29] <jhutchins> ubuntu_: Try that link I gave you in #debian.
[20:31] <soee> anyone who is using 10.4 ?
[20:31] <genii> soee: Probably most people in the #ubuntu+1 channel
[20:31] <soee> oks
[20:33] <iconmefisto> anyone know where I can find stats on popularity of kubuntu vs ubuntu?
[20:33] <mdk66> what's the newest ubuntu version ?
[20:33] <genii> mdk66: Karmic Koala (9.10)
[20:33] <iconmefisto> well that's not the newest
[20:34] <mdk66> so which is ?
[20:34] <iconmefisto> that's the current one
[20:34] <genii> !lucid
[20:34] <iconmefisto> but there's the upcoming 10.4 lucid lynx
[20:34] <mdk66> Ok, thanks all :)
[20:36] <mdk66> but, i gotta 8.04 (full updated) atm, should i install 9.10 ?
[20:38] <genii> mdk66: Probably best to wait until 10.04 has been released for a little bit, and then do a Long-Term-Support to Long-Term-Support upgrade
[20:48] <jimmy51_> what app should i use to see my CPU temp?
[20:48] <jimmy51_> (desktop... not laptop)
[20:50] <jimmy51_> !ksensors
[20:50] <[GuS]> jimmy51_: there is a plasmoid for that
[20:50] <[GuS]> mostly that should work
[20:51] <jimmy51_> [GuS]: I see a "System Monitor - Temperature" widget
[20:52] <[GuS]> jimmy51_: that one
[20:52] <jimmy51_> but it doesn't show anything once installed.  it has a picture of an IC on it
[20:52] <jimmy51_> (it doesn't list any sensors)
[20:53] <genii> I think you need lmsensors pre-installed for that
[20:54] <jimmy51_> ah
[20:54] <genii> e !info lm-sensors
[20:54] <genii> !info lm-sensors
[20:56] <jimmy51_> got lm-sensors
[20:56] <iconmefisto> I don't have lm-sensors, and the plasmoid works for me
[20:56] <jimmy51_> sensors-detect?
[20:57] <genii> jimmy51_: Yes, you have to run the sensors-detect  so it can understand what to monitor
 I think you need lmsensors pre-installed for that ---> is not needed for that plasmoid
[20:59] <jimmy51_> either way, the plasmoid didn't find any sensors
[20:59] <jimmy51_> but sensors-detect did
[20:59] <jimmy51_> maybe i need an app to display the sensors data from lm-sensors?
[21:01] <[GuS]> jimmy51_: if that plasmoid didnt find one, then yes you need lm-sensors
[21:01] <HeTo> meh, my screen is starting to get disturbingly garbled again
[21:01] <sajith> Help needed. I deleted kde panel. How can I get it back??
[21:02] <HeTo> enabling KMS made compositing work at a reasonable speed and with a visible desktop, but it also made everything slowly get garbled
[21:02] <genii> [GuS]: Not sure, I'm not using anything right now (previously used another monitoring plasmoid under 4.1 which required lm-sensors)
[21:02] <[GuS]> genii: that is another history. I am talking about that plasmoid
[21:03] <[GuS]> and that one does not use lm-sensors, but the info of /proc
[21:03] <jimmy51_> hmm
[21:03] <jimmy51_> i still don't get info in the plasmoid, and don't know how to get info from lm-sensors
[21:03] <jimmy51_> lm-sensors isn't a command... what do i use to dump the info?
[21:03] <[GuS]> jimmy51_: maybe you need  to google? :)
[21:03] <AlexanderSupertr> help!
[21:03] <AlexanderSupertr> default panel keeps disappearing again and again
[21:03] <AlexanderSupertr> :(
[21:04] <AlexanderSupertr> using 8.1
[21:04] <AlexanderSupertr> kde 4.2
[21:05] <jimmy51_> [GuS]: i have... unfortunataly google says to install lm-sensors and run sensors-detect.  after that everything should be peachy.
[21:05] <jimmy51_> sensors still outputs no sensors found
[21:06] <jimmy51_> crap
[21:06] <jimmy51_> i think it didn't edit /etc/modules.  i'll edit it by hand
[21:07] <genii> jimmy51_: /etc/modules  is at boot
[21:07] <jimmy51_> can i forcefully load f71882fg ?
[21:07] <jimmy51_> (without reboot)
[21:08] <jimmy51_> modprobe f7blahblah ?
[21:08] <brzionline> Hello, I have a question, does anybody knows how to enable qt theme in netbeans ide?
[21:08] <genii> jimmy51_: If: modprobe -l | grep f71882fg      shows it available you can sudo modprobe it
[21:09] <jimmy51_> got it
[21:09] <jimmy51_> widget works, sensors is working
[21:09] <jimmy51_> thanks guys....
[21:09] <sajith> Can anyone help me to get back my KDE panel??
[21:10] <sajith> I have deleted it by mistake
[21:10] <[GuS]> jimmy51_: nice
[21:11] <jimmy51_> i've got a Q9400 in a 1U server running at 64 deg F at idle... i wanted to compare to my workstation.
[21:11] <jimmy51_> 32 deg F!
[21:11] <sajith> I tried removing $HOME/.kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
[21:11] <sajith> but it is not working
[21:19] <rafasmart> on 9.10, system-config-printer-kde didn't show "add local printer" option, so how I do this?
[21:21] <AlexanderSupertr> is kicker not available on 4.2?
[21:21] <AlexanderSupertr> can't run kicker or kcontrol
[21:21] <AlexanderSupertr> what are the new apps?
[21:21] <AlexanderSupertr> :?
[21:24] <[GuS]> AlexanderSupertr: kicker and related others apps was replaced by Plasma desktop. KControl for Systemsettings
[21:25] <AlexanderSupertr> [GuS]: thanks for reply. how can i configure plasma desktop? the pannel keeps disappearing>
[21:29] <AlexanderSupertr> is there a place where current active panles are listed?
[21:31] <sajith> @AlexenderSupertr I'm new to KDE but try in ~.kde/share/config
[21:35] <AlexanderSupertr> sajith: thanks. but there are so many files in there, hard to say which one is of use. :(
[21:36] <sajith> @AlexanderSupertr Do you want to reset to defaults??
[21:59] <rd1381> why i cant add tags to my files in dolphin in ubutnu ??
[22:05] <rd1381> nobody here?
[22:06] <iconmefisto> does ubuntu do tags?
[22:07] <iconmefisto> my guess is that tags are a kde feature, not specific to dolphin
[22:09] <`mOOse`> guys I have a Q about Amarok - anyone know where the lyrics url is stored? Mine doesn't think I'm on the internet, and I'd like to use it - I *just* installed it a little while ago so I'm on my virgin run with it
[22:10] <epimeth> ahoy!
[22:10] <epimeth> how do I add a plasmoid container and define its size and location?
[22:11] <epimeth> I'm using the netbook edition and would like to add a task manager to the bottom of the screen
[22:12] <rd1381> iconmefisto: yes they are kde related and not for gnome. my question is why when i right click on right panel on dolphin ,tags rating and comment are grayed out.i was able to use them in suse
[22:13] <Tiders> Okay Im trying to install a new splash screen but when I click get new tehemes and accept it it doesnt show up in the list of currently installed ones
[22:13] <iconmefisto> `mOOse`: lyrics in amarok work with scripts. you can find the script manager in the tools menu
[22:13] <`mOOse`> I'll take a look iconmefisto - thanks
[22:13] <iconmefisto> rd1381: so are you running kubuntu?
[22:14] <iconmefisto> `mOOse`: ultimate lyrics is the one I use for lyrics
[22:14] <`mOOse`> k
[22:15] <`mOOse`> aha - this is simple - thanks again iconmefisto
[22:17] <rd1381> iconmefisto: i am running ubuntu but logged in kde
[22:17] <iconmefisto> rd1381: ok, so you have kde installed
[22:17] <rd1381> dahh
[22:17] <rd1381> sry cound resist
[22:18] <iconmefisto> rd1381: I think you have to enable nepomuk in systemsettings>desktop search
[22:18] <rd1381> where>?
[22:18] <iconmefisto> rd1381: advanced tab
[22:18] <rd1381> just a sec
[22:18] <rd1381> can u give me systemsetting command line ?
[22:20] <iconmefisto> rd1381: it's in the menu, but the command is systemsettings
[22:21] <rd1381> oh you are rigth
[22:21] <rd1381> so i have to logg out and log back in?
[22:21] <epimeth> how do I add a plasmoid container and define its size and location? I'm using the netbook edition and would like to add a task manager to the bottom of the screen
[22:21] <iconmefisto> not sure about that rd1381
[22:22] <rd1381> iconmefisto:just one more thing . do you know a search tool that supports searching in tags that i give to files.i prefer a gui and windows like
[22:22] <iconmefisto> epimeth: don't know about netbook edition, but on regular kde you can right-click desktop and add a panel
[22:23] <epimeth> right click does nothing
[22:23] <iconmefisto> rd1381: alt-F2 and type something, it should find commands, files, bookmarks, tags, anything
[22:24] <rd1381> iconmefisto: i meant something like tracker in gnome but more stable and integrated with kde
[22:25] <iconmefisto> I don't really know about tracker
[22:27] <rd1381> it can index files
[22:27] <rd1381> strigi does that right?
[22:27] <Tiders> Is there any way to change the actual login screen and not just the splash?
[22:29] <`mOOse`> iconmefisto:  it's still not seeing the lyric url
[22:29] <epimeth> Tiders: /quit
[22:29] <dodger> hi all :)  so, i just installed the kde 4.4 beta and nepomuk stopped working - the server is running and strigi is indexing, but i don't get tagging functionality in dolphin anymore, and searches for hastag seem to never end
[22:30] <dodger> has anyone had the same issue?
[22:30] <epimeth> sorry tiders
[22:30] <iconmefisto> Tiders: systemsettings, advanced tab, login manager
[22:30] <epimeth> Tiders: I didn't mean to tell you to /quit
[22:30] <Tiders> iconmefisto: Thanks
[22:30] <Tiders> epimeth: Oh I got really confused haha
[22:31] <epimeth> I just meant to quit...
[22:31] <epimeth> dunno why that was directed at you :-)
[22:31] <epimeth> bye :-)
[22:32] <dodger> in fact, i get a 'the nepomuk system is not activated. unable to answer queries without it' message
[22:33] <iconmefisto> `mOOse`: not sure what you mean by lyric url. it should show lyrics of the currently playing track in the lyrics window
[22:34] <OxDeadC0de> hmm in ubuntu 8.10 I went and manually deleted a bunch of /lib/modules/linux folders from old kernel versions, then I went to remove the packages, and now every time I try to use apt-get it says it's going to remove the module packages, but then fatal errors trying to make an initramfs for them when they don't exist anymore..
[22:34] <OxDeadC0de> and I can't get them to be removed from apt-get.. is there some magic cli option I can pass to ignore the errors?
[22:35] <`mOOse`> Could not download lyrics.
[22:35] <`mOOse`> Please check your internet connection.
[22:35] <`mOOse`> Error message:
[22:35] <`mOOse`> Lyrics not found. Sorry.
[22:35] <FloodBotK3> `mOOse`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:36] <`mOOse`> sorry - that's the error iconmefisto
[22:36] <iconmefisto> `mOOse`: that just means it couldn't find the lyrics for the song
[22:37] <`mOOse`> hmm...for lyrics like billie jean or beatles tunes?
[22:37] <iconmefisto> `mOOse`: is the title of the song the actual title, or does it have other words in it?
[22:37] <`mOOse`> no they're actual names of the tunes - out of id3 tags
[22:38] <`mOOse`> I understand where you're going with that line of thinking though
[22:38] <iconmefisto> eg, if the title is Beatles - Get Back - live rooftop version, you should change the title to just "Get Back"
[22:38] <`mOOse`> nothing unusual - no mp3's are being recognised
[22:38] <`mOOse`> ok
[22:38] <`mOOse`> let me try something real plain - brb
[22:41] <Tiders> Is there a program that downloads from FTPs for Kubuntu?
[22:41] <Tiders> Like Filezilla
[22:41] <kubian> like kget?
[22:42] <`mOOse`> man...
[22:42] <tuxburn> un saludo para todos
[22:43] <tuxburn> me pueden colaborar a configurar daap en amarok2.2
[22:56] <Ritzerisk> is there like a command to give me General CPU info and mem for like what hardware i have
[23:07] <kubian> lshw
[23:12] <OxDeadC0de> how can I manually remove a file from apt-get's database?
[23:15] <iconmefisto> OxDeadC0de: more info? why? what do you want to do?
[23:16] <OxDeadC0de> hmm in ubuntu 8.10 I went and manually deleted a bunch of /lib/modules/linux folders from old kernel versions, then I went to remove the packages, and now every time I try to use apt-get it says it's going to remove the module packages, but then fatal errors trying to make an initramfs for them when they don't exist anymore..
[23:16] <iconmefisto> remove a deb package that was downloaded?
[23:17] <iconmefisto> try installing the package, then remove it
[23:17] <OxDeadC0de> nope
[23:18] <iconmefisto> sudo apt-get install --reinstall <deleted-stuff>
[23:18] <OxDeadC0de> already way past that point, the only thing left is to manually remove the package identifiers from apt-get telling it they're no longer installed,
[23:18] <OxDeadC0de> so I'm going to remove the entries from /var/lib/dpkg
[23:19] <Tiders> Why does Kubuntus fonts randomly go small on some boots
[23:19] <chlomo> hi
[23:20] <dkkong> I've got an issue with the PPC Karmic Disc. It burns and loads fine on my mac, but I get an authentication failed when it tries to login. There's no username and password, so I can't login to the Live CD. How do I fix this?
[23:20] <kazik> Hi
[23:20] <kazik> is there any one around?
[23:21] <chlomo> ya m here
[23:21] <kazik> hey :) i have an annoying problem with compositing in new kde
[23:21] <kazik> it's disabling all the time
[23:21] <kazik> whenever i restart
[23:22] <OxDeadC0de> removing from /var/lib/dpkg/status and /var/lib/dpkg/available worked finally iconmefisto (I had already tried reinstalling, wouldn't let me, packages no longer exist in the repos, could be because I just did a distupgrade)
[23:22] <chlomo> sorry m new & cant help
[23:23] <iconmefisto> dkkong: try username: ubuntu  with no password
[23:24] <Ritzerisk> is there like a command to give me General CPU info and mem for like what hardware i have
[23:26] <Scunizi> Ritzerisk: just answered in #ubuntu
[23:27] <flowerface> i want to use kubuntu on my flash drive usb . and pluge it to any computer and run it. just like live cd. how can i do it?
[23:29] <dkkong> iconmefisto: I tried that and root with no luck
[23:32] <iconmefisto> dkkong: is there a "check CD for defects" or similar option before boot?
[23:33] <dkkong> Not that I can find. I did check the md5 sum though and it matched
[23:39] <iconmefisto> dkkong: only thing I can think of is try burning another disk at slowest speed possible
[23:40] <iconmefisto> dkkong: did you burn the disk on the same machine you're booting?
[23:40] <dkkong> iconmefisto: That's what I had tried. I figured it was my cd, but some googling reveals that several people have had a hard time with it
[23:40] <dkkong> iconmefisto: Nope, separate computer
[23:41] <iconmefisto> dkkong: I've had it happen to me a few times, and I blamed the drive not reading the disk, because the same disk would boot fine on other machines
[23:45] <iconmefisto> flowerface: if you have a k/ubuntu install, you can install usb-creator and do it with that tool
[23:52] <Scunizi> iconmefisto: isn't there a tool already on the live cd that will do that.. I created a usb bootable stick with it.
[23:53] <Scunizi> iconmefisto: it's in K>Applications>System>USB Startup Disk Creator
[23:54] <judgen> how do you set the icon theme for gnome apps to use via text files?
[23:55] <judgen> it seems to default back to hicolor
[23:59] <zzzxzzz> hello
[23:59] <zzzxzzz> is anybody here?