[02:45] Is there a way that I could set 2 owners for a group? [02:45] you can make the owner be a team [02:45] mwhudson; then members of that team can have control? [02:46] mdeonte: right [02:46] shweet === mdeonte is now known as tawhnee === tawhnee is now known as mdeonte === montel_ is now known as mdeonte === nxvl_ is now known as nxvl === ChrisMorganPi is now known as ChrisMorgan === ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisMorgan|Away === ChrisMorgan|Away is now known as ChrisMorgan === ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisMorgan|Away [10:30] hello [10:30] website builder for launchpad.net around? [10:31] i found some spam on it [10:43] nevermind, i spoke with intellectronica === ChrisMorgan|Away is now known as ChrisMorgan [11:07] hiya [11:08] can somebody help me with hitchhiker and getting me to push lp:~loco-directory-dev/loco-directory/0.2? [11:08] I thought I had deleted the branch from LP [11:08] but there seems to be something still lingering around [11:08] and I get: [11:08] bzr: ERROR: KnitPackRepository('lp-64802192:///~loco-directory-dev/loco-directory/trunk/.bzr/repository') [11:08] is not compatible with [11:08] CHKInventoryRepository('lp-64802192:///~loco-directory-dev/loco-directory/0.2/.bzr/repository') [11:08] different rich-root support [11:09] dholbach: You're pushing a 2a branch, and it's trying to stack on the pack-0.92 development focus. [11:10] wgrant: how can I get it not to stack? :) [11:10] dholbach: Just push again, without deleting. [11:11] we have LOTS megabytes of cruft in the old branch and wanted to start 0.2 branch from rev1 [11:11] (yeah, I know) [11:11] Ah. [11:11] somebody committed megabytes of map data which makes it painful to push a new branch for every review and stuff [11:12] Ew. [11:12] But stacking should have minimised that problem. [11:12] it still takes a long time [11:12] wgrant: anything I should do about: "This transport does not update the working tree of: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~loco-directory-dev/loco-directory/0.2/." [11:12] ? [11:12] wgrant: will that make loggerhead not work? [11:13] ah no, it works [11:13] thanks wgrant [11:13] * dholbach asks a lot of stupid questions today :) === doctormo__ is now known as doctormo === salgado is now known as salgado-afk === salgado-afk is now known as salgado [14:16] hi, can I prod a LOSA about https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+question/94536 ? I've got the rest of my openssh imports in place now, so this is really the last piece I need [14:16] * mthaddon looks === sraps is now known as sraps|away [14:34] Hi, Ive noticed that my branch revisions no longer show up in my karma. I checked some other folks karma and it appears theres are still functioning. Any ideas? [14:39] cjwatson: done [14:43] mthaddon: ta [14:44] mthaddon: hmm, should I not expect to see something other than "Packs containing knits without subtree support" on https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/openssh/main? That sounds like an old branch format to me ... [14:45] cjwatson: hmm, not sure if there needs to be some kind of import somewhere - I'm in mwhudson's hands on this one I'm afraid [14:45] actually, we should make an rsvp page for ubuntu hour [14:46] eh,, sorry.. that was supposed to go to another channel [14:46] mthaddon: I'll wait until a bit later today and follow up on the ticket if it doesn't fix itself [14:46] cjwatson: sounds good [14:47] is it possible to register a mirrored branch in the source package namespace? (I'd like to ask Launchpad to import a branch from bzr.debian.org, and it ought to live in ~cjwatson/debian/sid/lucid/debian or something like that) [14:48] I can do it with https://code.launchpad.net/openssh/+addbranch, but https://code.launchpad.net/debian/+source/openssh/+addbranch doesn't exist === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch [14:52] ah, bug 347755 [14:52] Launchpad bug 347755 in launchpad-code "No UI for registering package branches" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/347755 [14:58] security updates to FireFox 3.0.x in Ubuntu 8.04 have [14:58] been based on security updates from upstream (Mozilla project) [14:58] But as I [14:58] understand it, the stream of security updates from upstream is about to [14:58] stop. [14:58] leoquant: #ubuntu-mozillateam would be a better place to ask [14:59] ok [15:00] deryck, ping [15:01] if you have a couple mins I need to pick you brain about some bug stats [15:01] s/you/your [15:02] akgraner, hi. Sure. I have a couple minutes. [15:03] deryck, do you look and the bug stats section in UWN at all? [15:03] deryck, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs this is the link we used to use to get those stats [15:03] but now the information we used to report on isn't there any more [15:04] so I need help in getting that information again [15:04] specifically unassigned and total bugs reported [15:04] I tried the advanced search and the numbers weren't even close [15:04] akgraner, looking at the +bugs page for a second... [15:05] deryck, thanks [15:05] :-) [15:05] akgraner, what info was there but isn't now? [15:05] total number of bugs every reported [15:05] and unassigned [15:07] unassigned we used the advanced search and got close enough [15:07] but I can't figure out how to get total number of bugs reported to date [15:08] hmm, I see that's gone now. Had noticed. Wonder why we dropped that. [15:08] this was the last number we reported All bugs ever reported (356337) [15:08] intellectronica, was this ^^ (total bugs and unassigned bugs being dropped from +bugs home) part of the 3.0 redesign? [15:08] so if we could get unassigned and totals back that would sure make the UWN staff happy campers :-) [15:10] deryck: yes [15:10] akgraner: you can still get these numbers with a search [15:11] intellectronica, I don't recall talking about these specific bits of info (which is fine, of course) but did we drop them feeling they weren't as useful to general users? [15:11] intellectronica, I tried and got the unassigned [15:11] but I must have been doing something wrong with trying to get totals [15:11] intellectronica, this was what we last reported All bugs ever reported (356337) [15:12] and I could not even get close to that number... [15:12] deryck: yes for total number of bugs. i don't remember why unassigned got left out, and i think it might be useful [15:13] intellectronica, willing to learn how.. could someone just email me or walk me through the correct boxes to tick? I ticked all the status boxes [15:13] intellectronica, yeah, total feels a bit like it go in some leading paragraph. i.e. 356337 bugs reported here. And I think unassigned would make a nice filter still. [15:13] akgraner, I think you want to check all statuses and uncheck hide duplicates. [15:14] deryck: sure, i'll file a bug. might even do it later, it's very little work [15:14] deryck, ok do I have to do 2 searches or will it include the nobody ones as well [15:14] intellectronica, excellent. thanks! It could actually fall in CHR since akgraner asked about it. ;) [15:15] akgraner: b.t.w if this is something you want to do regularly (to track the number or something) you could also easily set up a script to read it using the api. [15:15] we can help you write it, of course [15:16] intellectronica, always willing to learn [15:16] akgraner, by "nobody ones" if you mean the unassigned bugs, that would be a subset of the all bugs query I gave you. So I would two two searches -- one for all bugs and one for unassigned. [15:16] then add them together and I should have the total in theory right.. === ursula_ is now known as Ursinha-lunch [15:17] intellectronica, it's 5 lines on UWN we report on... # Open (76454) +61 over last week [15:17] # Critical (41) +8 over last week [15:17] # Unconfirmed (39611) +121 over last week [15:17] # Unassigned (67029) +73 over last week [15:17] # All bugs ever reported (356337) +1821 over last week [15:17] and the difs from week to week [15:17] wow, the new post-dupe-search anim looks like a compiz effect [15:18] those were from 2 weeks ago just so you can see what we use them for [15:18] akgraner, I believe the query I gave you will include unassigned bugs. intellectronica, or am I understanding this wrong, that assignee "doesn't matter" is only if there is an assignee? [15:19] deryck: you are correct. "doesn't matter" means any assignee or none. it doesn't filter by assignee [15:19] right. [15:19] akgraner, see ^^ [15:19] deryck, intellectronica thanks..:-) [15:19] akgraner, no problem. [15:20] just wanted you all to see why we needed the stats... [15:21] and since you all are the bug people... is there something else you would perhaps like to include with those numbers while I am hear and asking [15:21] here even [15:22] akgraner: looks like a perfect use case for a script. if you tell me a bit more about it i can help you write it so that you can run it regularly [15:23] intellectronica, awesome can I email you? [15:23] akgraner: sure thing [15:24] intellectronica, thank you so much!! [15:24] will get that out to you in just a few then === zekopeko_ is now known as zekopeko__ === sraps|away is now known as sraps [15:55] Hi, I'm currently the most visible header of Synfig Studio project. We are looking for a new host service to migrate to. Current host of Synfig is giving some troubles to make the community grow. We need some info about launchpad and its features, anyone? [15:56] intellectronica, email sent to gmail account is that ok? [15:56] genete, https://launchpad.net/+tour [15:56] intellectronica, also Thank you again! much appreciated, :-) === menesis1 is now known as menesis [15:56] akgraner: that's fine [15:56] akgraner: no problem, my pleasure [15:58] cody-somerville: yes, the tour is great but I need more info. For example, Synfig has already a forum (phpBB) and a wiki (mediawiki) database with its own users. Can we migrate them to launchpad without problems? [15:58] genete, No. Launchpad does not provide those types of services. [15:59] current host service we have has problems with sendmail so it doesn't allow us to make the community grow [16:00] so wiki and forum has to be hosted externally launchpad, right? [16:00] genete, Thats correct, yes. [16:00] Hmmm what a pita === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado [16:35] going crazy trying to dput my package into launchpad. Can't seem to get the changes file right. I get the error "no valid opengpg date" [16:35] thomas: what did you try? [16:35] thomas: the date should be in `date -R` format [16:36] usually signing during build (dpkg-buildpackage or debuild) or using debsign later on the .changes files works [16:37] first I created my debian/files and then did dpkg-genchanges and then gpg to create the asc file [16:37] * al-maisan reconsiders [16:37] you should not create debian/files by hand [16:37] dpkg-buildpackage should create that; it should also take care of running dpkg-genchanges for you [16:38] When I ran dpkg-buildpackage some error showed up and then it stopped just before createing the files [16:38] debug that, then :) [16:38] ok. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. Actually If I just run dpkg-buildpackage it should work... [16:38] 'dpkg-buildpackage -S' (or 'debuild -S') is the proper way to create a source package for upload to Launchpad === jon is now known as Guest49007 [16:44] hello [16:44] is there an example how to get the bug list for a specific project ? I coudn't figure from the launchpad api doc [16:51] assuming it's possible [16:52] joaopinto, that's easy, let me try to find get an example [16:53] I have looked at the bugs collection, there is no reference to bug queries excep by using bug nrs [16:53] joaopinto, http://paste.ubuntu.com/344175/ [16:54] this gets a list of all bugs in the bughelper project [16:56] thekorn, just what I was needing, thanks :) [16:56] now I did the dpkg-buildpackage and it says "dpkg-genchanges error; cannot open file list" === Ursinha-lunch is now known as Ursinha [17:07] thomas: it would be easier to analyse your problem given a full build log on paste.ubuntu.com [17:09] thanks. It seems to be working somewhat now. With the S flag it seems to have worked except that I needed to run gpg manually. As we speak dput is putting the files up on my ppa [17:12] hmm... Strange. It said "successfully uploaded packages but I don't see the packages in my ppa. Does it take some time to get there? [17:12] it takes up to 5 minutes [17:13] ...and you should get an email within 5mins too. [17:13] if it takes longer then see https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+faq/227 [17:14] ok .. thanks... === ChrisMorgan is now known as ChrisMorgan|Away [17:26] hi [17:26] could somebody tell me how to manually merge translations in trunk? === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] [17:36] TypeError: can't subtract offset-naive and offset-aware datetimes <- any hints how to determine the bug age using python ? [17:36] Any launchpad admins willing to show this question some love? https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/94519 [17:36] :) [17:39] jamalta: sure, i'll assign it to the admins team [17:40] I gots me a question about imports. I'm looking at wordpress on launchpad, I think it makes sense to import both trunk and branches/2.9 from svn. Any idea how to progress that? [17:40] intellectronica: thank you! [17:41] The code in trunk and branches/2.9 will diverge. The useful code is really in branches/2.9, but the vcs import page says it will only import trunk. [17:43] intellectronica: Are you the help person? [17:44] chmac: at your service :) [17:45] intellectronica: :-) [17:45] chmac: how can i help? [17:45] intellectronica: Is it possible to get http://svn.automattic.com/wordpress/branches/2.9/ imported into launchpad as well as the trunk branch? [17:46] chmac: no, we usually only import trunk from cvs/svn [17:46] intellectronica: The word "usually" is my focus here... :-) [17:46] i don't know if it's a technical limitation or just a policy. why do you want to import it? [17:46] intellectronica: Let me rephrase another way, what steps would I need to go through to convince somebody to import branches/2.9? :-) [17:47] abentley: do you know if it's possible (technically) to import a non-trunk branch from svn? [17:47] intellectronica: The code in branches/2.9 is production quality, trunk isn't really. I want to start remixing versions of WordPress. The useful code for that is in branches/2.9 [17:47] It's the way WP uses code, branches/2.9 starts to diverge from trunk almost immediately [17:48] chmac: i think that's a legitimate use case. why don't you try setting up an import. if it's successful i'll approve it [17:49] :-) [17:49] intellectronica: Yes, it's technically possible, but it's a bad idea because it won't be compatible with trunk. This will be fixed for new imports when we switch from cscvs to bzr-svn. [17:49] abentley: What does "not compatible with trunk" mean? [17:49] abentley: right, so that's why we don't do it. the same revisions will be different in trunk and in the other branch? [17:50] The same revision numbers (r3, r4, etc) would exist in both branches but be related to different actual changesets, is that the issue? [17:50] chmac: The import will assign different ids to the revisions and files, so merging them will be impossible. [17:51] abentley: Merging from trunk to branches/2.9 for example? [17:51] chmac: yes. [17:51] Hmm, let me ponder that for a few minutes. I wonder if that will be an issue in this case... [17:52] In this case, I don't think that will be a problem. [17:53] Most developers will still use svn, so anything that needs to go from trunk to branches/2.9 would be done by somebody in svn. [17:53] I see the use on launchpad as creating "custom spins" of WordPress, to use Fedora's terminology [17:54] intellectronica: I'll request the import now... :-) [17:54] chmac: cool [17:57] intellectronica: Ok, sent the request, hopefully I got the urls correct, I double checked them... :-) [18:12] intellectronica: Any idea on a timescale for the 2.9 branch to be imported (or not as the case may be... :-) ? [18:13] I'm refreshing the page every few minutes, but that might be overly optimistic, I did read from a few hours to a few days on the wiki [18:14] chmac: it really should run soon [18:14] Cancel that, message from Tom Beger "The import has been approved and an import will start shortly." :-) [18:14] Just got the email... === beuno is now known as beuno-lunch === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck [18:42] Hello, does LP support 3.0 source format now ? [18:47] AnAnt: What's 3.0 source format? [18:48] AnAnt: Yes it does, but I am not certain it is fully operational to all users. [18:49] intellectronica, hey, is there any action from me needed to get https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thekorn/launchpad/affects_in_interleaved_activitylog/+merge/16261 merged, or is it just patience ;) [18:49] chmac: erm, a new source format [18:49] thekorn: actually, thanks for reminding me. i need to merge it and will do it now [18:51] hey guys any idea of why i'm getting this error when using launchpadlib??: 'IOError: [Errno 36] File name too long:...[]' [18:51] intellectronica, super cool, thanks [18:52] How do I make a hyperlink when commenting at bugs.launchpad.net? [18:53] AnAnt: A new source format for what? For bazaar? [18:54] chmac: source package format [18:55] rCX: you can't make a hyperlink, but urls are linkified, as are mentiones of other bugs or of branches [18:55] AnAnt: Ok, sounds like packaging talk, way over my head :-) [18:56] intellectronica: so if I put "#12345" it will be linked automatically? [18:56] chmac: yup, packaging talk indeed [18:58] I sent my package to ppa an hour ago. Seems launchpad does not know my key. But everything seems completely right. Nice key in launchpad and same key in gpg... [18:58] I have not received any mail either [18:58] rCX: 'bug #12345' will be [18:58] Launchpad bug 12345 in isdnutils "isdn does not work, fritz avm (pnp?)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/12345 [18:59] intellectronica: ok thx [19:00] any ideas what could be wrong??? [19:01] thomas: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+faq/227 perhaps? [19:02] Well, I signed the package changes file with the same key I have in launchpad and sent it and dput worked for a while sending the file [19:02] so I tried everything in that link [19:03] Is there any way to test my key??? [19:03] it should be ok [19:04] intellectronica: Is something stuckon soyuz so that package builds aren't getting initiated for Ubuntu? [19:05] ScottK: i wonder if that's the case. it seems code imports aren't running either [19:05] OK, you're listed as help contact, so Help! [19:07] ScottK: spray some UBIK on the clouds? ;) i'm trying to get an admin to look at it for us. will update you as soon as i know anything [19:07] Thanks. [19:10] thomas: did you try to do something else which requires signing with that key, like signing an email to the launchpad bug email interface? [19:15] intellectronica: I signed the Ubuntu code of conduct. That should test the key.... [19:16] thomas: right, yes, that's an adequate test [19:16] hey could somebody show me how to do some merge translations foo? [19:17] as stated before i need to sync a translation to trunk [19:17] when I do gpg --list-keys I see I have a "pub" key with same name that is in my launchpad and then a "sub" key. It it perhaps the sub key I should be using??? === beuno-lunch is now known as beuno [19:17] transl. is already on lp just needs sync to trunk [19:18] so can somebody help. the guy that knows this lp black magic isn't online [19:24] ScottK: would you mind filing a question with all the information you have, so that we care share it with the soyuz folks later, and with an admin? [19:25] intellectronica: I'm not sure what to say other than package builds aren't starting and there are a bunch in queue. [19:26] ScottK: that's a good start :) [19:28] intellectronica: https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/94802 [19:30] abentley: compatible> I spent the entire weekend constructing very very careful manual imports of a bunch of openssh branches using cscvs :) [19:32] openssh is in CVS upstream, so bzr-svn wasn't an option [19:34] cjwatson: Sorry, I don't follow you. [19:35] oh, just noting that it is just about possible to make file-id-compatible branch imports using cscvs, although quite possibly far more trouble than it's worth [19:58] intellectronica: I got an email saying the branch would imported a couple of hours ago, no visible progress on launchpad.net yet. Is patience the order of the day? [19:58] intellectronica: I'm wondering if something has gone wrong with the import or I just need to wait... :-) [20:00] intellectronica: It's fixed. Thanks for the help. [20:03] thomas: and you have only one gpg key? (just asking to be sure that dpkg-buildpackage doesn't pick the wrong one) [20:15] hi [20:16] using launchpad lib, I can't use any of the fields listed for bugs on the searchTasks( orderby parameter [20:17] is there a specific list of fields for the orderby ? They don't seem to match bug fields === chmac is now known as chmac_away [20:21] joaopinto: I'm not sure, does https://launchpad.net/+apidoc help? [20:21] maxb, I have been reading it already [20:22] I think I am getting it, searchTasks returns bug_tasks, not bugs === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [20:26] less than 1k bugs from 500k [20:26] erm, it's a bit messy, you search using a criteria field, then the field is not available on your results :\ [21:14] can you upload .po file to translations? === yofel_ is now known as yofel === chmac_away is now known as chmac [22:06] intellectronica: Code has arrived, 2.9 is a go... :-) [22:07] chmac: excellent! [22:08] intellectronica: The branch is lp:~chmac/wordpress/2.9, might make more sense as lp:~vcs-imports/wordpress/2.9 I reckon [22:08] Any idea if / how I can change that without breaking the import? [22:08] chmac: your wish is my command [22:09] intellectronica: :-) [22:09] I was just saying on #bzr by mistake, I love the responsiveness of people on this channel, launchpad has a very human feel to it... :-) [22:09] chmac: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/wordpress/2.9 [22:10] intellectronica: Beautiful, now it looks like an independent copy rather than my own personal branch :-) [22:10] chmac: i'm glad to hear you've had a good experience. we really do put an effort to make launchpad a true community project [22:10] intellectronica: I was just debating between google code & hg, git & github and launchpad / bzr, looks like I made a good decision [22:11] I particularly like the teams feature, gives us an easy way to let anyone contribute to our code (different project) [22:19] heh yes [22:19] occasionally i deal with services that don't have teams and then get annoyed [22:19] (amazon ec2, for example) [23:16] NO! This is NOT cool. [23:16] I can't call you rubber duckies anymore... [23:17] :'( [23:18] MTecknology: The LOSA icon has changed; the admins one has not. [23:20] wgrant: what is it now? [23:20] a glass and what beside it? [23:39] I'm struggling to figure out how to produce a tar.gz from my new wordpress branch lp:~wpflavours/wordpress/wpflavour-no-visual-editor [23:40] I'm not familiar with packaging at all. I'd like to produce a tar.gz of the whole branch so it can be downloaded as a single file rather than via bzr [23:40] Can anyone point me to the right section in help or explain how I go about it? [23:41] chmac: 'bzr export foo.tar.gz' in your local branch [23:41] chmac: and/or are you unsure how to upload that to Launchpad? [23:41] spiv: Yeah, uploading to launchpad is the part I'm not sure about [23:42] spiv: I thought there might be a way to produce the tar on launchpad, but I can do that locally, so thanks for answering that part :-) [23:42] chmac: IIRC it's something like you go to the series and upload it there [23:42] spiv: Ok, I'll look into that, thanks [23:42] You need to add a release within a series, then add the file to that release. [23:43] wgrant: Ok, thanks [23:44] wgrant: I'm starting a project called WP Flavours to produce multiple remixed versions of WordPress. Would you recommend creating a new project WP Flavours with WordPress as the parent project? [23:44] I'm not an admin on the WordPress project so I don't think I can create new a series there [23:45] I'll ask the admin if he can give me access or do it for me... [23:45] chmac: What is a flavour? [23:46] I wonder if perhaps a separate project for each makes sense. [23:46] wgrant: For example, wp-no-visual-editor, exact replica of WordPress 2.9 minus the visual editor [23:46] wgrant: That's a simple example. Flavours might include custom plugins, or edits to core code to achieve a specific purpose. [23:47] We could create a different project for each flavour, set the parent project to WordPress [23:47] Wouldn't everybody be a whole lot better off if the code changes were turned into config options in Wordpress itself, and everything else just distributed as plugins? [23:47] wgrant: lol, that's a hot topic of debate, there are many who feel that way :-) [23:48] wgrant: One of the key issues that started this for me was the "phone home for updates" feature WP introduced. [23:48] There's no way to turn it off except with a plugin, but by the time WP is installed and you go the plugin management page, it phoned home already [23:48] Only way I can see to install wp without it phoning home is to hack core before installing [23:49] A flavour might simply be a wp core plus a few selected plugins, but packaged as a single tar.gz to make it easier to download / install