[02:45] <mdeonte> Is there a way that I could set 2 owners for a group?
[02:45] <mwhudson> you can make the owner be a team
[02:45] <mdeonte> mwhudson; then members of that team can have control?
[02:46] <mwhudson> mdeonte: right
[02:46] <mdeonte> shweet
[10:30] <KabEe> hello
[10:30] <KabEe> website builder for launchpad.net around?
[10:31] <KabEe> i found some spam on it
[10:43] <KabEe> nevermind, i spoke with intellectronica
[11:07] <dholbach> hiya
[11:08] <dholbach> can somebody help me with hitchhiker and getting me to push lp:~loco-directory-dev/loco-directory/0.2?
[11:08] <dholbach> I thought I had deleted the branch from LP
[11:08] <dholbach> but there seems to be something still lingering around
[11:08] <dholbach> and I get:
[11:08] <dholbach> bzr: ERROR: KnitPackRepository('lp-64802192:///~loco-directory-dev/loco-directory/trunk/.bzr/repository')
[11:08] <dholbach> is not compatible with
[11:08] <dholbach> CHKInventoryRepository('lp-64802192:///~loco-directory-dev/loco-directory/0.2/.bzr/repository')
[11:08] <dholbach> different rich-root support
[11:09] <wgrant> dholbach: You're pushing a 2a branch, and it's trying to stack on the pack-0.92 development focus.
[11:10] <dholbach> wgrant: how can I get it not to stack? :)
[11:10] <wgrant> dholbach: Just push again, without deleting.
[11:11] <dholbach> we have LOTS megabytes of cruft in the old branch and wanted to start 0.2 branch from rev1
[11:11] <dholbach> (yeah, I know)
[11:11] <wgrant> Ah.
[11:11] <dholbach> somebody committed megabytes of map data which makes it painful to push a new branch for every review and stuff
[11:12] <wgrant> Ew.
[11:12] <wgrant> But stacking should have minimised that problem.
[11:12] <dholbach> it still takes a long time
[11:12] <dholbach> wgrant: anything I should do about: "This transport does not update the working tree of: bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~loco-directory-dev/loco-directory/0.2/."
[11:12] <dholbach> ?
[11:12] <dholbach> wgrant: will that make loggerhead not work?
[11:13] <dholbach> ah no, it works
[11:13] <dholbach> thanks wgrant
[11:13]  * dholbach asks a lot of stupid questions today :)
[14:16] <cjwatson> hi, can I prod a LOSA about https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad-code/+question/94536 ? I've got the rest of my openssh imports in place now, so this is really the last piece I need
[14:16]  * mthaddon looks
[14:34] <jdaly> Hi, Ive noticed that my branch revisions no longer show up in my karma. I checked some other folks karma and it appears theres are still functioning. Any ideas?
[14:39] <mthaddon> cjwatson: done
[14:43] <cjwatson> mthaddon: ta
[14:44] <cjwatson> mthaddon: hmm, should I not expect to see something other than "Packs containing knits without subtree support" on https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/openssh/main? That sounds like an old branch format to me ...
[14:45] <mthaddon> cjwatson: hmm, not sure if there needs to be some kind of import somewhere - I'm in mwhudson's hands on this one I'm afraid
[14:45] <jamalta> actually, we should make an rsvp page for ubuntu hour
[14:46] <jamalta> eh,, sorry.. that was supposed to go to another channel
[14:46] <cjwatson> mthaddon: I'll wait until a bit later today and follow up on the ticket if it doesn't fix itself
[14:46] <mthaddon> cjwatson: sounds good
[14:47] <cjwatson> is it possible to register a mirrored branch in the source package namespace? (I'd like to ask Launchpad to import a branch from bzr.debian.org, and it ought to live in ~cjwatson/debian/sid/lucid/debian or something like that)
[14:48] <cjwatson> I can do it with https://code.launchpad.net/openssh/+addbranch, but https://code.launchpad.net/debian/+source/openssh/+addbranch doesn't exist
[14:52] <cjwatson> ah, bug 347755
[14:58] <leoquant> security updates to FireFox 3.0.x in Ubuntu 8.04 have
[14:58] <leoquant> been based on security updates from upstream (Mozilla project)
[14:58] <leoquant>  But as I
[14:58] <leoquant> understand it, the stream of security updates from upstream is about to
[14:58] <leoquant> stop.
[14:58] <cjwatson> leoquant: #ubuntu-mozillateam would be a better place to ask
[14:59] <leoquant> ok
[15:00] <akgraner> deryck, ping
[15:01] <akgraner> if you have a couple mins I need to pick you brain about some bug stats
[15:01] <akgraner> s/you/your
[15:02] <deryck> akgraner, hi.  Sure.  I have a couple minutes.
[15:03] <akgraner> deryck, do you look and the bug stats section in UWN at all?
[15:03] <akgraner> deryck, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs  this is the link we used to use to get those stats
[15:03] <akgraner> but now the information we used to report on isn't there any more
[15:04] <akgraner> so I need help in getting that information again
[15:04] <akgraner> specifically unassigned and total bugs reported
[15:04] <akgraner> I tried the advanced search and the numbers weren't even close
[15:04] <deryck> akgraner, looking at the +bugs page for a second...
[15:05] <akgraner> deryck, thanks
[15:05] <akgraner> :-)
[15:05] <deryck> akgraner, what info was there but isn't now?
[15:05] <akgraner> total number of bugs every reported
[15:05] <akgraner> and unassigned
[15:07] <akgraner> unassigned we used the advanced search and got close enough
[15:07] <akgraner> but I can't figure out how to get total number of bugs reported to date
[15:08] <deryck> hmm, I see that's gone now.  Had noticed.  Wonder why we dropped that.
[15:08] <akgraner> this was the last number we reported  All bugs ever reported (356337)
[15:08] <deryck> intellectronica, was this ^^ (total bugs and unassigned bugs being dropped from +bugs home) part of the 3.0 redesign?
[15:08] <akgraner> so if we could get unassigned and totals back that would sure make the UWN staff happy campers  :-)
[15:10] <intellectronica> deryck: yes
[15:10] <intellectronica> akgraner: you can still get these numbers with a search
[15:11] <deryck> intellectronica, I don't recall talking about these specific bits of info (which is fine, of course) but did we drop them feeling they weren't as useful to general users?
[15:11] <akgraner> intellectronica, I tried and got the unassigned
[15:11] <akgraner> but I must have been doing something wrong with trying to get totals
[15:11] <akgraner> intellectronica, this was what we last reported All bugs ever reported (356337)
[15:12] <akgraner> and I could not even get close to that number...
[15:12] <intellectronica> deryck: yes for total number of bugs. i don't remember why unassigned got left out, and i think it might be useful
[15:13] <akgraner> intellectronica, willing to learn how.. could someone just email me or walk me through the correct boxes to tick?  I ticked all the status boxes
[15:13] <deryck> intellectronica, yeah, total feels a bit like it go in some leading paragraph.  i.e. 356337 bugs reported here.  And I think unassigned would make a nice filter still.
[15:13] <deryck> akgraner, I think you want to check all statuses and uncheck hide duplicates.
[15:14] <intellectronica> deryck: sure, i'll file a bug. might even do it later, it's very little work
[15:14] <akgraner> deryck, ok do I have to do 2 searches or will it include the nobody ones as well
[15:14] <deryck> intellectronica, excellent.  thanks!  It could actually fall in CHR since akgraner asked about it. ;)
[15:15] <intellectronica> akgraner: b.t.w if this is something you want to do regularly (to track the number or something) you could also easily set up a script to read it using the api.
[15:15] <intellectronica> we can help you write it, of course
[15:16] <akgraner> intellectronica, always willing to learn
[15:16] <deryck> akgraner, by "nobody ones" if you mean the unassigned bugs, that would be a subset of the all bugs query I gave you.  So I would two two searches -- one for all bugs and one for unassigned.
[15:16] <akgraner> then add them together and I should have the total in theory right..
[15:17] <akgraner> intellectronica, it's 5 lines on UWN we report on... # Open (76454) +61 over last week
[15:17] <akgraner> # Critical (41) +8 over last week
[15:17] <akgraner> # Unconfirmed (39611) +121 over last week
[15:17] <akgraner> # Unassigned (67029) +73 over last week
[15:17] <akgraner> # All bugs ever reported (356337) +1821 over last week
[15:17] <akgraner> and the difs from week to week
[15:17] <intellectronica> wow, the new post-dupe-search anim looks like a compiz effect
[15:18] <akgraner> those were from 2 weeks ago just so you can see what we use them for
[15:18] <deryck> akgraner, I believe the query I gave you will include unassigned bugs.  intellectronica, or am I understanding this wrong, that assignee "doesn't matter" is only if there is an assignee?
[15:19] <intellectronica> deryck: you are correct. "doesn't matter" means any assignee or none. it doesn't filter by assignee
[15:19] <deryck> right.
[15:19] <deryck> akgraner, see ^^
[15:19] <akgraner> deryck, intellectronica thanks..:-)
[15:19] <deryck> akgraner, no problem.
[15:20] <akgraner> just wanted you all to see why we needed the stats...
[15:21] <akgraner> and since you all are the bug people... is there something else you would perhaps like to include with those numbers  while I am hear and asking
[15:21] <akgraner> here even
[15:22] <intellectronica> akgraner: looks like a perfect use case for a script. if you tell me a bit more about it i can help you write it so that you can run it regularly
[15:23] <akgraner> intellectronica, awesome  can I email you?
[15:23] <intellectronica> akgraner: sure thing
[15:24] <akgraner> intellectronica, thank you so much!!
[15:24] <akgraner> will get that out to you in just a few then
[15:55] <genete> Hi, I'm currently the most visible header of Synfig Studio project. We are looking for a new host service to migrate to. Current host of Synfig is giving some troubles to make the community grow. We need some info about launchpad and its features, anyone?
[15:56] <akgraner> intellectronica, email sent to gmail account is that ok?
[15:56] <cody-somerville> genete, https://launchpad.net/+tour
[15:56] <akgraner> intellectronica, also Thank you again!  much appreciated,  :-)
[15:56] <intellectronica> akgraner: that's fine
[15:56] <intellectronica> akgraner: no problem, my pleasure
[15:58] <genete> cody-somerville: yes, the tour is great but I need more info. For example, Synfig has already a forum (phpBB) and a wiki (mediawiki) database  with its own users. Can we migrate them to launchpad without problems?
[15:58] <cody-somerville> genete, No. Launchpad does not provide those types of services.
[15:59] <genete> current host service we have has problems with sendmail so it doesn't allow us to make the community grow
[16:00] <genete> so wiki and forum has to be hosted externally launchpad, right?
[16:00] <cody-somerville> genete, Thats correct, yes.
[16:00] <genete> Hmmm what a pita
[16:35] <thomas> going crazy trying to dput my package into launchpad.  Can't seem to get the changes file right. I get the error "no valid opengpg date"
[16:35] <geser> thomas: what did you try?
[16:35] <al-maisan> thomas: the date should be in `date -R` format
[16:36] <geser> usually signing during build (dpkg-buildpackage or debuild) or using debsign later on the .changes files works
[16:37] <thomas> first I created my debian/files and then did dpkg-genchanges and then gpg to create the asc file
[16:37]  * al-maisan reconsiders
[16:37] <cjwatson> you should not create debian/files by hand
[16:37] <cjwatson> dpkg-buildpackage should create that; it should also take care of running dpkg-genchanges for you
[16:38] <thomas> When I ran dpkg-buildpackage some error showed up and then it stopped just before createing the files
[16:38] <cjwatson> debug that, then :)
[16:38] <thomas> ok. Thanks for pointing me in the right direction.  Actually If I just run dpkg-buildpackage it should work...
[16:38] <cjwatson> 'dpkg-buildpackage -S' (or 'debuild -S') is the proper way to create a source package for upload to Launchpad
[16:44] <joaopinto> hello
[16:44] <joaopinto> is there an example how to get the bug list for a specific project ? I coudn't figure from the launchpad api doc
[16:51] <joaopinto> assuming it's possible
[16:52] <thekorn> joaopinto, that's easy, let me try to find get an example
[16:53] <joaopinto> I have looked at the bugs collection, there is no reference to bug queries excep by using bug nrs
[16:53] <thekorn> joaopinto, http://paste.ubuntu.com/344175/
[16:54] <thekorn> this gets a list of all bugs in the bughelper project
[16:56] <joaopinto> thekorn, just what I was needing, thanks :)
[16:56] <thomas> now I did the dpkg-buildpackage and it says "dpkg-genchanges error; cannot open file list"
[17:07] <cjwatson> thomas: it would be easier to analyse your problem given a full build log on paste.ubuntu.com
[17:09] <thomas> thanks.  It seems to be working somewhat now. With the S flag it seems to have worked except that I needed to run gpg manually. As we speak dput is putting the files up on my ppa
[17:12] <thomas> hmm... Strange.  It said "successfully uploaded packages but I don't see the packages in my ppa.  Does it take some time to get there?
[17:12] <bigjools> it takes up to 5 minutes
[17:13] <noodles775> ...and you should get an email within 5mins too.
[17:13] <bigjools> if it takes longer then see https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+faq/227
[17:14] <thomas> ok .. thanks...
[17:26] <zekopeko___> hi
[17:26] <zekopeko___> could somebody tell me how to manually merge translations in trunk?
[17:36] <joaopinto> TypeError: can't subtract offset-naive and offset-aware datetimes <- any hints how to determine the bug age using python ?
[17:36] <jamalta> Any launchpad admins willing to show this question some love? https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/94519
[17:36] <jamalta> :)
[17:39] <intellectronica> jamalta: sure, i'll assign it to the admins team
[17:40] <chmac> I gots me a question about imports. I'm looking at wordpress on launchpad, I think it makes sense to import both trunk and branches/2.9 from svn. Any idea how to progress that?
[17:40] <jamalta> intellectronica: thank you!
[17:41] <chmac> The code in trunk and branches/2.9 will diverge. The useful code is really in branches/2.9, but the vcs import page says it will only import trunk.
[17:43] <chmac> intellectronica: Are you the help person?
[17:44] <intellectronica> chmac: at your service :)
[17:45] <chmac> intellectronica: :-)
[17:45] <intellectronica> chmac: how can i help?
[17:45] <chmac> intellectronica: Is it possible to get http://svn.automattic.com/wordpress/branches/2.9/ imported into launchpad as well as the trunk branch?
[17:46] <intellectronica> chmac: no, we usually only import trunk from cvs/svn
[17:46] <chmac> intellectronica: The word "usually" is my focus here... :-)
[17:46] <intellectronica> i don't know if it's a technical limitation or just a policy. why do you want to import it?
[17:46] <chmac> intellectronica: Let me rephrase another way, what steps would I need to go through to convince somebody to import branches/2.9? :-)
[17:47] <intellectronica> abentley: do you know if it's possible (technically) to import a non-trunk branch from svn?
[17:47] <chmac> intellectronica: The code in branches/2.9 is production quality, trunk isn't really. I want to start remixing versions of WordPress. The useful code for that is in branches/2.9
[17:47] <chmac> It's the way WP uses code, branches/2.9 starts to diverge from trunk almost immediately
[17:48] <intellectronica> chmac: i think that's a legitimate use case. why don't you try setting up an import. if it's successful i'll approve it
[17:49] <chmac> :-)
[17:49] <abentley> intellectronica: Yes, it's technically possible, but it's a bad idea because it won't be compatible with trunk.  This will be fixed for new imports when we switch from cscvs to bzr-svn.
[17:49] <chmac> abentley: What does "not compatible with trunk" mean?
[17:49] <intellectronica> abentley: right, so that's why we don't do it. the same revisions will be different in trunk and in the other branch?
[17:50] <chmac> The same revision numbers (r3, r4, etc) would exist in both branches but be related to different actual changesets, is that the issue?
[17:50] <abentley> chmac: The import will assign different ids to the revisions and files, so merging them will be impossible.
[17:51] <chmac> abentley: Merging from trunk to branches/2.9 for example?
[17:51] <abentley> chmac: yes.
[17:51] <chmac> Hmm, let me ponder that for a few minutes. I wonder if that will be an issue in this case...
[17:52] <chmac> In this case, I don't think that will be a problem.
[17:53] <chmac> Most developers will still use svn, so anything that needs to go from trunk to branches/2.9 would be done by somebody in svn.
[17:53] <chmac> I see the use on launchpad as creating "custom spins" of WordPress, to use Fedora's terminology
[17:54] <chmac> intellectronica: I'll request the import now... :-)
[17:54] <intellectronica> chmac: cool
[17:57] <chmac> intellectronica: Ok, sent the request, hopefully I got the urls correct, I double checked them... :-)
[18:12] <chmac> intellectronica: Any idea on a timescale for the 2.9 branch to be imported (or not as the case may be... :-) ?
[18:13] <chmac> I'm refreshing the page every few minutes, but that might be overly optimistic, I did read from a few hours to a few days on the wiki
[18:14] <intellectronica> chmac: it really should run soon
[18:14] <chmac> Cancel that, message from Tom Beger "The import has been approved and an import will start shortly." :-)
[18:14] <chmac> Just got the email...
[18:42] <AnAnt> Hello, does LP support 3.0 source format now ?
[18:47] <chmac> AnAnt: What's 3.0 source format?
[18:48] <sinzui> AnAnt: Yes it does, but I am not certain it is fully operational to all users.
[18:49] <thekorn> intellectronica, hey, is there any action from me needed to get https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~thekorn/launchpad/affects_in_interleaved_activitylog/+merge/16261 merged, or is it just patience ;)
[18:49] <AnAnt> chmac: erm,  a new source format
[18:49] <intellectronica> thekorn: actually, thanks for reminding me. i need to merge it and will do it now
[18:51] <RoAkSoAx> hey guys any idea of why i'm getting this error when using launchpadlib??: 'IOError: [Errno 36] File name too long:...[]'
[18:51] <thekorn> intellectronica, super cool, thanks
[18:52] <rCX> How do I make a hyperlink when commenting at bugs.launchpad.net?
[18:53] <chmac> AnAnt: A new source format for what? For bazaar?
[18:54] <AnAnt> chmac: source package format
[18:55] <intellectronica> rCX: you can't make a hyperlink, but urls are linkified, as are mentiones of other bugs or of branches
[18:55] <chmac> AnAnt: Ok, sounds like packaging talk, way over my head :-)
[18:56] <rCX> intellectronica: so if I put "#12345" it will be linked automatically?
[18:56] <AnAnt> chmac: yup, packaging talk indeed
[18:58] <thomas> I sent my package to ppa an hour ago.  Seems launchpad does not know my key.  But everything seems completely right.  Nice key in launchpad and same key in gpg...
[18:58] <thomas> I have not received any mail either
[18:58] <intellectronica> rCX: 'bug #12345' will be
[18:59] <rCX> intellectronica: ok thx
[19:00] <thomas> any ideas what could be wrong???
[19:01] <intellectronica> thomas: https://answers.edge.launchpad.net/soyuz/+faq/227 perhaps?
[19:02] <thomas> Well, I signed the package changes file with the same key I have in launchpad and sent it and dput worked for a while sending the file
[19:02] <thomas> so I tried everything in that link
[19:03] <thomas> Is there any way to test my key???
[19:03] <thomas> it should be ok
[19:04] <ScottK> intellectronica: Is something stuckon soyuz so that package builds aren't getting initiated for Ubuntu?
[19:05] <intellectronica> ScottK: i wonder if that's the case. it seems code imports aren't running either
[19:05] <ScottK> OK, you're listed as help contact, so Help!
[19:07] <intellectronica> ScottK: spray some UBIK on the clouds? ;) i'm trying to get an admin to look at it for us. will update you as soon as i know anything
[19:07] <ScottK> Thanks.
[19:10] <intellectronica> thomas: did you try to do something else which requires signing with that key, like signing an email to the launchpad bug email interface?
[19:15] <thomas> intellectronica: I signed the Ubuntu code of conduct.  That should test the key....
[19:16] <intellectronica> thomas: right, yes, that's an adequate test
[19:16] <zekopeko___> hey could somebody show me how to do some merge translations foo?
[19:17] <zekopeko___> as stated before i need to sync a translation to trunk
[19:17] <thomas> when I do gpg --list-keys I see I have a "pub" key with same name that is in my launchpad and then a "sub" key.  It it perhaps the sub key I should be using???
[19:17] <zekopeko___> transl. is already on lp just needs sync to trunk
[19:18] <zekopeko___> so can somebody help. the guy that knows this lp black magic isn't online
[19:24] <intellectronica> ScottK: would you mind filing a question with all the information you have, so that we care share it with the soyuz folks later, and with an admin?
[19:25] <ScottK> intellectronica: I'm not sure what to say other than package builds aren't starting and there are a bunch in queue.
[19:26] <intellectronica> ScottK: that's a good start :)
[19:28] <ScottK> intellectronica: https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/94802
[19:30] <cjwatson> abentley: compatible> I spent the entire weekend constructing very very careful manual imports of a bunch of openssh branches using cscvs :)
[19:32] <cjwatson> openssh is in CVS upstream, so bzr-svn wasn't an option
[19:34] <abentley> cjwatson: Sorry, I don't follow you.
[19:35] <cjwatson> oh, just noting that it is just about possible to make file-id-compatible branch imports using cscvs, although quite possibly far more trouble than it's worth
[19:58] <chmac> intellectronica: I got an email saying the branch would imported a couple of hours ago, no visible progress on launchpad.net yet. Is patience the order of the day?
[19:58] <chmac> intellectronica: I'm wondering if something has gone wrong with the import or I just need to wait... :-)
[20:00] <ScottK> intellectronica: It's fixed.  Thanks for the help.
[20:03] <geser> thomas: and you have only one gpg key? (just asking to be sure that dpkg-buildpackage doesn't pick the wrong one)
[20:15] <joaopinto> hi
[20:16] <joaopinto> using launchpad lib, I can't use any of the fields listed for bugs on the searchTasks( orderby parameter
[20:17] <joaopinto> is there a specific list of fields for the orderby ? They don't seem to match bug fields
[20:21] <maxb> joaopinto: I'm not sure, does https://launchpad.net/+apidoc help?
[20:21] <joaopinto> maxb, I have been reading it already
[20:22] <joaopinto> I think I am getting it, searchTasks returns bug_tasks, not bugs
[20:26] <micahg> less than 1k bugs from 500k
[20:26] <joaopinto> erm, it's a bit messy, you search using a criteria field, then the field is not available on your results :\
[21:14] <zekopeko_> can you upload .po file to translations?
[22:06] <chmac> intellectronica: Code has arrived, 2.9 is a go... :-)
[22:07] <intellectronica> chmac: excellent!
[22:08] <chmac> intellectronica: The branch is lp:~chmac/wordpress/2.9, might make more sense as lp:~vcs-imports/wordpress/2.9 I reckon
[22:08] <chmac> Any idea if / how I can change that without breaking the import?
[22:08] <intellectronica> chmac: your wish is my command
[22:09] <chmac> intellectronica: :-)
[22:09] <chmac> I was just saying on #bzr by mistake, I love the responsiveness of people on this channel, launchpad has a very human feel to it... :-)
[22:09] <intellectronica> chmac: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/wordpress/2.9
[22:10] <chmac> intellectronica: Beautiful, now it looks like an independent copy rather than my own personal branch :-)
[22:10] <intellectronica> chmac: i'm glad to hear you've had a good experience. we really do put an effort to make launchpad a true community project
[22:10] <chmac> intellectronica: I was just debating between google code & hg, git & github and launchpad / bzr, looks like I made a good decision
[22:11] <chmac> I particularly like the teams feature, gives us an easy way to let anyone contribute to our code (different project)
[22:19] <mwhudson> heh yes
[22:19] <mwhudson> occasionally i deal with services that don't have teams and then get annoyed
[22:19] <mwhudson> (amazon ec2, for example)
[23:16] <MTecknology> NO! This is NOT cool.
[23:16] <MTecknology> I can't call you rubber duckies anymore...
[23:17] <MTecknology> :'(
[23:18] <wgrant> MTecknology: The LOSA icon has changed; the admins one has not.
[23:20] <MTecknology> wgrant: what is it now?
[23:20] <MTecknology> a glass and what beside it?
[23:39] <chmac> I'm struggling to figure out how to produce a tar.gz from my new wordpress branch lp:~wpflavours/wordpress/wpflavour-no-visual-editor
[23:40] <chmac> I'm not familiar with packaging at all. I'd like to produce a tar.gz of the whole branch so it can be downloaded as a single file rather than via bzr
[23:40] <chmac> Can anyone point me to the right section in help or explain how I go about it?
[23:41] <spiv> chmac: 'bzr export foo.tar.gz' in your local branch
[23:41] <spiv> chmac: and/or are you unsure how to upload that to Launchpad?
[23:41] <chmac> spiv: Yeah, uploading to launchpad is the part I'm not sure about
[23:42] <chmac> spiv: I thought there might be a way to produce the tar on launchpad, but I can do that locally, so thanks for answering that part :-)
[23:42] <spiv> chmac: IIRC it's something like you go to the series and upload it there
[23:42] <chmac> spiv: Ok, I'll look into that, thanks
[23:42] <wgrant> You need to add a release within a series, then add the file to that release.
[23:43] <chmac> wgrant: Ok, thanks
[23:44] <chmac> wgrant: I'm starting a project called WP Flavours to produce multiple remixed versions of WordPress. Would you recommend creating a new project WP Flavours with WordPress as the parent project?
[23:44] <chmac> I'm not an admin on the WordPress project so I don't think I can create new a series there
[23:45] <chmac> I'll ask the admin if he can give me access or do it for me...
[23:45] <wgrant> chmac: What is a flavour?
[23:46] <wgrant> I wonder if perhaps a separate project for each makes sense.
[23:46] <chmac> wgrant: For example, wp-no-visual-editor, exact replica of WordPress 2.9 minus the visual editor
[23:46] <chmac> wgrant: That's a simple example. Flavours might include custom plugins, or edits to core code to achieve a specific purpose.
[23:47] <chmac> We could create a different project for each flavour, set the parent project to WordPress
[23:47] <wgrant> Wouldn't everybody be a whole lot better off if the code changes were turned into config options in Wordpress itself, and everything else just distributed as plugins?
[23:47] <chmac> wgrant: lol, that's a hot topic of debate, there are many who feel that way :-)
[23:48] <chmac> wgrant: One of the key issues that started this for me was the "phone home for updates" feature WP introduced.
[23:48] <chmac> There's no way to turn it off except with a plugin, but by the time WP is installed and you go the plugin management page, it phoned home already
[23:48] <chmac> Only way I can see to install wp without it phoning home is to hack core before installing
[23:49] <chmac> A flavour might simply be a wp core plus a few selected plugins, but packaged as a single tar.gz to make it easier to download / install