[10:39] <thorwil> http://www.underconsideration.com/brandnew/archives/the_best_and_worst_identities_of_2009.php
[17:53] <mac_v> Equiet: hi.. pinged mpt regarding your mockups... he said he'll follow up :)
[17:53] <Equiet> mac_v: Thank you. What exactly means follow up?
[17:54] <mac_v> Equiet: comment about it or request changes ...
[18:00] <Equiet> Have you tried Gnome Shell?
[18:00] <mac_v> yup...
[18:01] <Equiet> And what do you think?
[18:01] <mac_v> as of now , i would say isnt very ideal
[18:36] <thorwil> sadly dropping the concept is not seen as an option
[18:38] <Equiet> Why to drop it?
[18:41] <thorwil> Equiet: since it is not clearly better, it should be tested with actual users to see how they fare (in comparison with the current setup).
[18:41] <thorwil> Equiet: if it doesn't show to be clearly better, it should be dropped
[18:42] <thorwil> Equiet: however, my worry is that that option will not be considered
[18:46] <Equiet> I agree, that it's not very intuitive, so it shouldn't be enabled by default, but I like it. With a good shortcut and little changes it could be nice work.
[18:46] <thorwil> Equiet: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/2009-December/msg00124.html
[18:49] <Equiet> At least, it is something, that is not stolen from other OSs.
[18:49] <thorwil> Equiet: "intuitive" is a highly problematic term, anyway. what is and isn't intuitive depends on past experience, making it somewhat subjective. some claim: "the only intuitive interface is the nipple", but not even that is entirely accurate, as even there learning is involved
[18:50] <thorwil> "unique" does not trump "good"
[18:51] <Equiet> But it's still better than Vista glossy buttons and OS X's Application menu in top bar.
[18:52] <Equiet> User has to find out, that for running apps he needs to click Activities, so it's not intuitive for me.
[18:53] <thorwil> Equiet: better by what measure?
[18:56] <Equiet> Well, you're right. Better is another problematic term.
[18:56] <Equiet> Brb.
[20:11] <mac_v> lmao > http://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/tech/Called-Racist-HP-Says-Thanks-for-the-Feedback-79822477.html