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* nalioth shakes his head at #freenode 00:59
Seeker`:/01:08
Seeker`@bansearch mesula01:17
Seeker`@login01:17
* Seeker` kicks ubottu01:17
ubottuNo matches found for mesula!n=skdfhgds@host86-128-90-73.range86-128.btcentralplus.com in any channel01:17
ubottuThe operation succeeded.01:17
Seeker`@btlogin01:17
Seeker`can someone please confirm that mesula has a current ban in #ubuntu-offtopic ?01:19
Seeker`Pici: *prod*01:22
* Pici looks for his mouse01:22
Seeker`O.o01:23
Seeker`I'm still seeing  148 - #ubuntu-offtopic: ban *!*@host86-164-231-249.range86-164.btcentralplus.com by douglas.freenode.net, 2022403 secs ago01:27
Seeker`as being set, which is the ban ikonia set on mesula01:27
PiciYes, I'm trying to confirm something though01:29
Seeker`what?01:30
Seeker`?01:32
PiciSeeker`: ah, found it01:32
Seeker`what have you found?01:32
PiciSeeker`: Looks like thats the same creep that talks about young fit girls.01:33
Seeker`he is a repeat troll in -uk01:33
Seeker`permabanned there01:33
Seeker`no point putting a real name ban on01:34
Seeker`he will change it01:34
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ubottuclaebgmamb called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic ()04:55
MenZa!-amaranth-#ubuntu-offtopic05:11
AmaranthMenZa: Again, you'd have to !unforget first :)05:14
MenZa:P05:14
* MenZa pets Amaranth 05:14
MenZaubottu: tell friendishan about msgthebot06:39
dholbachgood morning08:33
Myrttiohai08:38
* Myrtti hands dholbach a piece of Finnish gingerbread and some Finnish recipe glühwein08:39
jussi01oh Myrtti!!! wheres mine!!08:40
dholbachMyrtti: not sure I should drink Glühwein at the beginning of my work day :-D08:40
dholbachMyrtti: best to ask Jono first ;-)08:40
Myrttidholbach: there's just enough of wine to put some rosiness on your cheeks, most of it is blackcurrant juice08:41
Myrttiwine acts as internal woollen jumper, that's all :-)08:41
Myrttijussi01: here, have some kossu08:41
dholbachMyrtti: I have some rosiness on my cheeks - I just took the dog for a walk and before that helped my dad to change tires of the car :)08:42
* jussi01 gulps... got more?08:42
Myrttijussi01: no, you had the last drops08:43
Myrttiblackcurrant cordial for you too08:43
jussi01awww :/08:43
MyrttiI just got a Jurassic Park flashback09:25
Myrtti"this is Ubuntu?"09:25
FlannelI know this!09:25
MyrttiI also got a Simpsons flashback09:26
Tm_Termmmm09:26
Tm_T1125.04 < ukbot> Hi, Could a staffer set a cloak for an ubottu clone I'm working on for this nick please, my normal nick is DJones which has the normal unaffiliated cloak, I can pm details of my main account as needed09:26
Myrtti"this is Ubuntu?" "d'oh?"09:26
MyrttiTm_T: and he asked that in #freenode?09:26
Tm_Tyes09:26
Tm_Tand some staff answered09:26
Tm_Taaand done09:27
Myrttiokies, carry on then09:27
Tm_Tweird though09:27
Myrttiwhat is?09:27
Tm_Tnot asking in -irc as I would have expected09:27
Myrttiwhy would he?09:27
Myrttiit's not necessarily in any connection with Ubuntu09:27
Tm_Tsure, just used to that09:28
elkyhe's asking for a /unaffiliated/djones/bot/whatever cloak i'd imagine09:28
FlannelMyrtti: didn't you get the memo? Only Ubuntu related people are allowed cloaks now!09:28
FlannelMyrtti: everyone else gets a dagger.09:28
MyrttiIN THE BACK!09:29
Tm_Tye, not that it's alarming, just found it weird somehow09:29
* Tm_T has his medication messed up it seems09:30
Tm_TI even see tuesday coming too early09:33
FlannelTuesday's coming, did you bring your coat?09:33
Myrttidoes someone with more experience in compiling stuff want to help dsl_ in #ubuntu09:46
Myrttihe's trying to compile drivers for his label printer, and has tried but compiling process ends with no needed libraries installed09:47
MyrttiI know to tell him to install needed dev packages, but that's as far as my knowledge goes09:47
MyrttiI need breakfast before my stomach starts eating my pancrea09:49
Myrttitea ♥10:16
Myrttiok, time to do a test10:28
Myrtti*sigh*10:28
Myrttihttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com10:28
Myrttiah, right10:29
Myrttihttp://ubuntu.pastebin.com/f2de325f610:29
MyrttiI really hate that paste service10:30
MenZaYes, but it's better than paste.ubuntu.com currently.10:31
* MenZa growls.10:31
MenZaO halo thar jpdz.10:36
Tm_TMenZa: shame we have to live with "better than" instead of "good" ):10:40
* Tm_T loses his nerves with barking dogs10:41
MenZaOh, I agree, Tm_T.10:41
Myrttidholbach: I noticed something that's missing from the Membership wikipage10:41
dholbachMyrtti: what is it?10:42
Myrttiit doesn't mention about the expiration of membership at all10:42
Tm_TMenZa: especially when they are right next to you10:42
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MenZaMyrtti makes a good point, dholbach :o10:45
Myrttinoticed it when I saw a post in planet ubuntu by a person that's not actually a Ubuntu member. Not that I want his posts out of there, but his membership has expired, and I don't know if it's because of lack of knowledge of this expiration, or a concious decision.10:47
MenZaI assume noone thought of removing it from the planet config file.10:48
MyrttiI assume noone dares to remove jdub :-DDDDDD10:48
MenZa:D10:48
Myrttium, yeah. We removed your blog from planet ubuntu... oh the almighty developer of... planetplanet.10:49
MenZaI think I still have the planet repo lying in my /home10:49
Myrtti*cough*10:49
MenZaAfter adding my blog10:49
dholbachMyrtti, MenZa: if you want to add something to the page, why don't you propose a piece of text and send it to the CC for review?10:59
tonyyarussoThere is now someone in the config who was deactivated too.11:00
Myrttidholbach: I'll see what I can whip up11:00
dholbachMyrtti: rock on11:01
tonyyarussoAlso, neither of those people can remove themselves, since the bzr access uses LP group membership for rights.11:01
Myrttitonyyarusso, dholbach: to be concise, there actually isn't any facts about Deactivated membership at all.11:02
Myrttior then I fail to google11:02
dholbachI don't know what kind of information you want on there11:03
dholbachhow to reactivate?11:03
dholbachI think it should be obvious enough to just have a chat with somebody at the RMBs or the CC11:03
dholbachbut we can add a short text blurb about it, sure11:03
MenZadholbach: "The term for Ubuntu membership is two years, after which membership of will expire. It is, of course, possible to re-apply for membership, following the same procedure as the one to gain membership initially." or something to that extent.11:04
dholbachno, you don't need to re-apply11:04
dholbachyou can extend membership yourself11:04
MenZaI've not had to yet, so I wouldn't know :P11:04
MenZaI see11:04
tonyyarussoyeah, you just click a button11:04
Myrttiand that info is exactly... where? :-D11:04
Myrttiis it documented in the wiki?11:04
dholbachno11:04
MenZaI've read it somewhere.11:05
dholbachbut it's like any other team in LP that is setup like that :)11:05
jussi01RMB's?11:05
dholbachRegional Membership Boards11:05
Myrttidholbach: yes, but in the unlikely even that Ubuntu would use some other method than Launchpad to keep track of these things, it would be good to have all this information gathered up someplace in the wiki11:05
dholbachhum11:06
dholbachthat's very unlikely11:06
dholbach:-)11:06
Myrttior just for fallback situations11:06
Myrttiwhen launchpad is offline or such11:06
dholbachwhat for? :)11:06
MenZait /ought/ to be documented11:06
Myrttiin any case, this is valuable information that ought to be documented somewhere11:06
dholbachwhat exactly do you want documented?11:07
elkydholbach, mine expired because i didn't notice the renewal spamz in with all the other launchpad mails. the process for rectifying accidental expiries isn't clear for people like menza11:07
dholbachah ok, I see11:07
dholbachsure11:07
Myrttireapplying, reactivation, rectifying accidental expiries, deactivation on purpose and how to do it and so on11:08
Myrttifor example "I want to deactivate my membership, what do I need to do"11:08
elkyi want to deactivate my membership then go on an email rampage and get my membership back, what do i need to do?11:09
Myrttiand as we can see, the answer is not "click a button on Launchpad" since there are other services that are not so omnipotent of Launchpad and capable of coping the removed membership11:09
* elky couldn't resist. goes to the corner of shame.11:09
Myrttilike planet planet, that doesn't have a method of removing blogs of deactivated/expired members11:09
elky<popey> maco: the openid use on pastebin is being reverted today :)11:10
MyrttiWOHEY!11:10
elkythank goodness11:10
MyrttiBRILLIANT11:10
MyrttiI was just about to write a rant blog post about it11:10
dholbachbest to propose a piece of text and send to the CC :)11:10
MenZaGO POPEY11:11
MenZaI was going to write such a blog post too, Myrtti.11:11
MenZaBut then, procrastination kicked in.11:11
MenZaNow I'm writing about the geometry of pizza.11:11
MenZa._.11:11
gorddid no one think of just y'know, bringing it up with the guys in charge instead of blog posts?11:12
elkygord, since it's being reverted, i'd guess someone did.11:12
Myrttigord: I haven't seen anything that would have told me who was behind it or a message informing of it's implementation11:12
elkyMyrtti, it'd be the web team, aka news2000 et al11:13
elkyif it's a website, and under a canonical domain, they're the best guess at a first stop. ubuntu website does also have a launchpad "project"11:14
elkydholbach, can correct me if this situation has changed in the past year or so11:14
dholbachubuntu-website is the project in LP, yes11:14
Myrttioh well.11:15
dholbachnewz2000 leads the ubuntu website editors team, there's others who have access too11:15
Myrttiit's being reverted, so no matter11:15
dholbachbut I don't have too much insight into it11:15
dholbachso I don't know11:15
elkyfor future reference though11:15
* Myrtti goes to her hiding place11:15
elkydholbach, you're likely to have more insight on to who to go and subject to a staring and pouting marathon than I am.11:16
dholbachwhat I meant to say is that I don't know much about how the websites are run11:16
* jussi01 prods MenZa back into bots-devel11:23
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Myrttiindus is on it again...12:20
* Myrtti huggles elky 13:42
elkywe have some utter tools in #u right now13:43
elkyMyrtti, want to k quan_time and explain why ops are not ignore list material?13:45
Myrttigiving one more shot13:46
Myrttiand a new bowl of curry13:46
* genii makes a fresh pot of coffee14:18
* Myrtti makes a nice pot of tea for those who don't like coffee14:18
geniiMyrtti: :)14:19
MyrttiCrikey14:22
MyrttiI almost coughed up a rice grain from my nose when my terminal made a beep noise14:23
Myrttilimcore at #ubuntu?14:30
elkywot?14:38
elkywhat are the floodbots freaking over?14:40
ikoniaMyrtti: I removed limcores ban with agreement from jussi01 to give him a shot14:43
Myrttiok14:43
ikoniathe understand the first sign of an issue - he's gone - no discussion14:43
Myrttithat sentence doesn't make sense in my brain14:44
ikoniabecause I typed nonsense14:45
Myrttithought so14:45
ikoniathe ban was removed on the understanding of any problems he would be removed from the channel without discussion14:45
Myrttiok14:45
ikoniaMyrtti: I've just read his back scroll - he's gone, he can't control his language or his wise mouth comments when he's frustrated with ubuntu14:54
MyrttiI'm looking at the current situation brewing14:55
ikoniaI've given him several prods in pm to keep him on the path over the last few weeks and he seemed to be ok - but if someone's not around to prod him, he goes back to normal14:55
ikoniaMyrtti: which one ?14:55
Myrttithe one in #u14:55
elkyanyway. 2am. g'nite14:58
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jpds!ping17:11
ubottuHere I am, brain the size of a planet and you expect me to respond to a ping? How depressing.17:11
jpdsRight, now act in #ubuntu.17:11
pleia2you haz irc council now17:25
Myrtti♥ brilliant17:25
Myrttinhandler, tsimpson, topyli commiserations17:25
* pleia2 hugs topyli, tsimpson and nhandler 17:25
Myrtti:-D17:25
pleia2lol17:25
* nhandler hugs pleia217:25
nhandlerpleia2: The LP team still needs to be updated17:26
pleia2nhandler: yes, I mentioned that in the private email I sent you first :)17:26
pleia2give me a couple minutes, we just got the last CC vote in like 10 minutes ago!17:27
pleia2hehe17:27
Myrttimy offerings to the allmighty Tux have been acknowledged!17:27
* tonyyarusso feels powerful17:27
topyliMyrtti, :)17:27
topyliwell, we can get to work. that's the main thing17:27
tonyyarussoThe CC picked precisely the three people I said I would recommend, and even mentioned them in their e-mail in the same order...17:28
tonyyarussoAlso, congrats guys :)17:28
tonyyarussopleia2: 10 minutes?  This is the Internet - that's an eternity!17:29
pleia2tonyyarusso: hey, I'm at work too ;)17:30
jussi01IRCC ++!17:30
tsimpsonooh17:35
pleia2:)17:35
tonyyarussopleia2: silly employed people!17:35
jussi01tsimpson: you noted my missed call then?17:35
jussi01:D17:35
tsimpsonyeah :)17:35
tonyyarussoIt is a little bit sad that our council doesn't have any females now, but such is life.17:37
* pleia2 nods17:37
MyrttiI put my trust on the longhaired hippy17:38
tonyyarussoDoes that even narrow it down?17:38
Myrttiif for nothing else, then the fact I know where he works and can go kick his arse17:38
tonyyarussohaha17:38
jussi01I know where he lives... :D17:39
Myrttijussi01: but you're both on the council17:40
Myrttiso you don't count17:41
jussi01aww17:41
MyrttiPOWER TO THE PEOPLE17:41
Myrttibesides I know where you live, too17:41
Myrttihave you gotten my christmas card ;-)17:41
jussi01No, I didnt yet... :/17:43
jussi01you have my current address I take it?17:43
Myrttiif it's the one I've sneakily pried from facebook17:43
Myrttifor example, from your housewarming party invitation17:44
Myrttithen yes, I do17:44
jussi01LOL17:44
jussi01good17:44
* tonyyarusso is sad he's not in teh Finn dinner group loop17:45
Myrttitonyyarusso: meh, the distances are too long and I'm too lazy to actually go visit anyone17:45
jussi01tonyyarusso: you are more than welcome to join :D17:45
tonyyarussojussi01: oooh, do you have a teleporter?17:45
tonyyarussoMyrtti: yeah, silly distance.17:45
jussi01tonyyarusso: wait a sec, lemme just set it up :P17:46
Myrtti*BWWWWZZZZZZZUUUUUUWWWWW*17:46
jussi01tonyyarusso: sorry, someone steped on the important part, ypoull have to wait till I get  new bit17:47
tonyyarussoaww17:49
ikoniaso who's the council now (no email access at the moment017:52
ikonia)17:52
pleia2ikonia: topyli, tsimpson and nhandler17:53
ikoniaooooh, I thought they didn't get in as someone said comisserations, sorry, I missed the sarcasm17:53
ikoniacongratulations to all17:53
nhandlerThank you ikonia17:54
tsimpson:)17:54
ikoniawell earned17:54
jpdsikonia: Wait, how long have you been here?17:55
ikoniaerrrrrrr where, in the channel ?17:55
ikoniaI've been on / off all day, I was offline for a few days as my gateway's PSU blew17:56
ikonialooks all is stable now though17:56
ikoniawhat's up ?17:57
tonyyarussoikonia: well, those are the *additions* to the council.  Still also Pici and jussi01 of course.17:59
ikoniaof course17:59
nhandlerWe should probably set a 2 year expiration date on our membership in LP now. There was a community bug about that regarding the other councils18:01
ardchoilleI heard that the CC is done electing new folks. I asked to become an op in #ubuntu recently amd was told to wait until the CC elections were completed.18:02
ardchoilleI'd like to become an op in #ubuntu, I have been helping in #ubuntu for years and have been recently helping the ops as much as possible. What do I need to do to become an op?18:03
ubottuIn ubottu, M1TE5H said: !xtreme is Latest Computer & Ubuntu Tips & Tricks Visit http://xtremediary.blogspot.com/search/label/Ubuntu18:07
MyrttiO_____O18:07
Myrtti"Login as Root on Ubuntu"18:07
MyrttiBEEEEEEPPPP18:08
tonyyarussoardchoille: Well, I can tell you two things on that front:  1) In the past, it's been "don't call us, we'll call you".  Generally when a need for new volunteers is seen, the team will approach people we think would be good and ask if they'd be interested.  2) Not everyone is around atm, so it may be a good idea to pop a quick e-mail to the -irc mailing list letting everyone know you're interested and willing if they want you, and see if18:08
nixternalDebtree? come on, every good package hacker uses apt-cache dotty :p18:09
tonyyarusso(Although @all, we probably should have a better-defined process of how this works these days; I'm not even really sure how we're doing it right now.)18:09
nixternalcongrats to the new IRCC members \o/18:09
tsimpsontonyyarusso: that's part of what we're going to do18:10
ardchoilletonyyarusso: Ok, that sounds fair. I'll send something to the -irc mailing list.18:10
tonyyarussotsimpson: yay :)18:10
ardchoilletsimpson: Congats, btw :)18:10
tsimpsonthanks :)18:11
tonyyarussoman, resume writing is *hard*.18:11
ardchoilleCongrats to topyli and nhandler too18:11
ardchoilleThanks for the info.18:12
Tm_Ttsimpson, nhandler, topyli, congrats, and thank you (:19:28
topylithanks tm_T :)19:29
tsimpsonthanks Tm_T :)19:29
tsimpsonsnap!19:29
* tsimpson wins19:29
Tm_Ttsimpson: you win what?19:29
tsimpsonthe unending joy of winning19:30
Priceytsimpson: Hate to break this to you, but 2 year terms.19:35
tsimpsonhuh?19:36
tsimpsonoh, I didn't mean that Pricey, I meant winning my mini game of snap ;)19:36
topylia snap victory expires in two years too! it's a new rule!19:37
pleia2oh, I should set that expirey huh19:38
pleia2there we go19:39
nhandlerThanks pleia2 ;)19:40
mneptokYAY! i was not voted in!20:32
* mneptok lurves diminished responsibility20:32
naliothbeats diminished capacity20:33
topylifull nagging rights though!20:33
Priceymneptok: There's probably something dirty on the internet about you which they found and turned them off.20:46
mneptokPricey: if that's true, and that's what the decision is based on, there's no way i'd serve such a community. ;)20:49
jussi01mneptok: they saw your picture... isnt that enough? :P :P20:51
pleia2Pricey: it was the black vodka20:52
* pleia2 hides from mneptok 20:52
Mamarokif I read the backlog correctly, we have a new council?20:53
Myrttiwe do indeed20:53
jussi01mneptok: yes20:53
jussi01:D20:53
jussi01Mamarok: even...20:53
* jussi01 hugs mneptok20:53
Mamarokwell, congratulations, hard work is expecting you guys :)20:53
Mamarokbtw, /me thinks we should do some interviews so people get to know you folks better :)20:54
jussi01Mamarok: +1!!20:55
jussi01Mamarok: start with topyli, no one know who he actually is :D20:55
Mamarokwell, so whom do I torture first? I need your mail addresses and will send you my questions20:55
Mamaroktsimpson, nhandler, topyli ^^20:56
nhandlerMamarok: nhandler@ubuntu.com20:56
tsimpsonMamarok: tsimpson@ubuntu.com20:56
* Myrtti makes a wild guess20:56
Myrttitopyli@ubuntu.com20:56
pleia2we have a winner ;)20:57
jussi01lol20:57
Myrttipadumtshih20:57
jussi01you poor people... gonna get spammed! :D20:57
Mamarokwell, I think we will present the new council in corpore, so I have two mails missing...20:58
tsimpsonI already get tons of spam to my @ubuntu.com address20:58
nhandlergmail does a nice job of catching most of my spam.20:58
tsimpsonMamarok: bnrubin and jussi01 both at ubuntu.com20:59
Mamaroktsimpson: thx, will spam you folk soon :)21:00
tsimpsonor for jussi and me, you can use our shiny @kubuntu.org address :D21:00
Mamarokright, I will :)21:01
Mamarokdoesn't nhandler also has a kubuntu.org one?21:01
nhandlerYes21:01
tsimpsonoh that's right21:01
MamarokoO, KDE is taking over :) world domination soon!21:01
topyliMamarok, bring it on :)21:02
Myrttiyou've got a die hard gnomist of topyli21:02
tsimpsonwe are sneaky like that21:02
* topyli stretches inbox21:02
Mamaroktopyli: you will surrender, sooner or later :)21:02
topyliwho knows! can't really see anything very dramatic happening right now though :)21:04
ikoniaevening21:06
* jussi01 sneaks into topyli's house and installs kde...21:37
jussi01heya ikonia21:37
topyli:o21:38
topyliwhat's with all these buttons and tickboxen :\21:38
jussi01oh poor topyli, he hasnt seen kde for a loooong time...21:38
jussi01Mamarok: so topyli will be your first victim?21:39
topylijussi01, you mean it's actually usable?21:39
jussi01topyli: yes!!!21:39
* topyli makes note: "check out post-2.0 kde"21:39
jussi01LOL21:40
Myrttii dislike both :-D21:40
MamarokMyrtti: don't you already use Qt?21:40
Myrttinot since mandriva in 200421:42
Myrttior mandrake,raer21:42
Myrttikubuntu wasn't there when I started with ubuntu in early 2005, so I used gnome and from there have moved to xfce421:46
ubottusanta123 called the ops in #ubuntu ()23:47
jpdsWell, I gave him a warning!23:47

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