[00:00] <kontagious> i edited songs on my ipod from rhythmbox and when i use the ipod it says no songs but when i connect it rhythmbox can still see them. any ideas?
[00:00] <EastDallas> igie: try connecting via ip address instead of computer name.  '
[00:00] <Gibson> dtork: i don't know man. i'd say try getting on another machine and burning a disk and booting from that
[00:00] <igie> EastDallas: how do I do that?
[00:00] <wimpog> I have ubuntu server and installed another HDD w/Windows on it. For some reason Ubuntu does not see it... what's the problem?
[00:00] <ninjah> I've got imbeded youtbue videos on a blog. They flicker when I watch them on Ubunut. They don't in windows. Is there a fix for this?
[00:00] <dtork> Gibson: so you're suggesting a fresh install?
[00:00] <EastDallas> igie: Go to places and choose any folder
[00:01] <Gibson> dtork: if it were me I would, but I started linux like, this afternoon.
[00:01] <igie> EastDallas: then what?
[00:01] <EastDallas> igie: then type smb://ipaddress
[00:01] <Gibson> dtork: but those files can go funny on download sometimes. then hang up at a particular spot and never finish anything
[00:01] <dtork> Gibson: oh, I see. Well if you have any ideas like editing the grub menu, I'm able to access my filesystem partition from a live cd now
[00:02] <dtork> I just don't know what kind of editing that should be
[00:02] <tony_> i reinstalled ubuntu with wubi again i have a dual boot set up can i increase ubuntu's space with gparted?
[00:02] <blackest_knight1> tony_: yes
[00:02] <EastDallas> igie: did that work?
[00:02] <anigma> where would I find the previous version of ubuntu?
[00:02] <anigma> any url?
[00:03] <kazagistar> usb-creator isn't working... I booted from a different liveusb distro just fine, but my 9.10 server install does not... how do I get ubuntu working on my nettop?
[00:03] <igie> EastDallas: where do I type smb://ipaddress ?
[00:03] <blackest_knight1> tony_: you can even copy and paste partitions
[00:03] <l3ns> good morning everyone :)
[00:03] <iceroot> anigma: jaunty?
[00:03] <anigma> iceroot: indeed.
[00:03] <EastDallas> igie: you might have to click the pencil button in the toolbar to get the space to type it.
[00:03] <iceroot> !jaunty | anigma
[00:03] <l3ns> how accurate sudo lshw -class processor determines the type of processor I have?
[00:04] <EastDallas> igie: left had side, second row of toolbar
[00:04] <blackest_knight1> kazagistar: what os are you starting from
[00:04] <anigma> iceroot: thank you. I appreciate it.
[00:04] <iceroot> l3ns: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[00:04] <erUSUL> l3ns: better --> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[00:04] <tony_> can i increase ubuntu's size without crashing vista?
[00:04] <erUSUL> l3ns: or the "x86info" program
[00:04] <dtork> Gibson: yeah, you've got a point. But that wouldn't explain why I can't start up from the other boot options
[00:04] <iceroot> tony_: yes but make a backup
[00:04] <bishop> tony u can shrink the volume in windows to make room for ubuntu but i like making room using gedit.
[00:04] <igie> EastDallas: How do i find out the ip address of the computers on my wireless network?
[00:04] <erUSUL> !info x86info
[00:04] <blackest_knight1> kazagistar: i use unetbootin for usb installs of netbook
[00:05] <Gibson> dtork: i'm not sure..
[00:05] <EastDallas> igie: go to the other machine and type ifconfig in a terminal
[00:05] <tony_> i should run defrag under vista then move partition in gparted?
[00:05] <igie> EastDallas: is there a way to do it from this machine ?
[00:06] <EastDallas> igie: well, I guess you should do it on both so you'll know both ip addresses.
[00:06] <EastDallas> igie: do you know how to ssh?
[00:06] <l3ns> iceroot, erUSUL the result is here: http://pastebin.com/m6ab1a13
[00:06] <blackest_knight1> tony_:  seems like a plan
[00:06] <igie> EastDallas: nope
[00:06] <kazagistar> blackest_knight1: I have Ubuntu desktop already, but it is installed in an encrypted partition, and I want it to not be encrypted
[00:06] <EastDallas> igie: You could log in to your router and look at the DHCP list.  Know how to do that?
[00:06] <igie> EastDallas: not even sure what ssh is
[00:06] <iceroot> l3ns: yes, pentium 4 one core
[00:06] <erUSUL> l3ns: so; what do you want me to do with that info ?
[00:06] <EastDallas> igie:  how many computers on your network?
[00:07] <igie> EastDallas: ya, i can do that
[00:07] <khelvan> Hello, what is the linux equivalent to Windows' chkdsk? I have an SSD losing data and I want to check it for errors, but the partition on it is NTFS (it is a Windows 64 install). However, my Ubuntu partition is fine, so I figured I could fix Windows from Ubuntu.
[00:07] <l3ns> iceroot, erUSUL is it 64 bit?
[00:07] <kazagistar> blackest_knight1: I will look into unetbootin
[00:07] <igie> EastDallas: 5 machines, 2 running ubuntu
[00:07] <iceroot> khelvan: fsck
[00:07] <EastDallas> igie: go ahead and try looking at the router
[00:07] <erUSUL> l3ns: yes
[00:07] <tony_> sounds easy enough any other steps besides back up, defrag and then move partition?
[00:08] <iceroot> erUSUL: l3ns i dont see infos for amd64
[00:08] <khelvan> iceroot - Can you please assist me with how to run that properly? And doesn't it have problems with NTFS?
[00:08] <iceroot> khelvan: dont know if it can handle ntfs, sorry
[00:08] <erUSUL> iceroot: the "lm" cpuflag means 64 bit capable (long mode)
[00:08] <l3ns> erUSUL, iceroot , i installed 32 bit ubuntu on this machine cus I thought this was a 32 bit processor >.<
[00:09] <erUSUL> iceroot: l3ns line 18 flags in the list you have the lm flag == 64 bits
[00:09] <iceroot> erUSUL: ah, good to know, thx
[00:09] <Bulb> how do i change kde to normal ubuntu ?
[00:09] <Crazy|One> right i have a query, i have ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop and i thought everything was running perfet until i ran system monitor.  I get a box shaded in lines of color, screenshot can be seen at the link, any ideas what the problem could be?   http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2148/screenshotfp.png
[00:09] <l3ns> erUSUL, iceroot , so I can install amd64 on this machine, yes?
[00:09] <iceroot> l3ns: yes
[00:09] <iceroot> l3ns: amd64 is also running on intel platforms
[00:10] <erUSUL> iceroot: l3ns « grep --color " lm " /proc/cpuinfo »
[00:10] <erUSUL> l3ns: yes you can
[00:10] <erUSUL> l3ns: depends on how much ram you have. if you have less then 4 GiB may not be worth the trouble
[00:10] <igie> EastDallas: I can do it with the ip address
[00:10] <tony_> thanks everyone
[00:10] <alankila> There are too many questions about "does amd64 work on intel". *sigh* someone should rename the architecture to x86-64, or at least the ISO image ought to be named that way.
[00:11] <dn4> what is a good program to use to edit video
[00:11] <dn4> for time lapse
[00:11] <bishop> good luck tony
[00:11] <igie> EastDallas, but I can't do it by clicking on Places > Network >
[00:11] <EastDallas> igie: cool, we should be able to get it working with names just fine.
[00:11] <igie> EastDallas: why is that ?
[00:11] <erUSUL> alankila: give credit where credit is due. AMD designed the isa. it has the right to  name it imho ;)
[00:11] <l3ns> erUSUL, iceroot , yeah I have only 2 gb at the moment, that's why I was planning to update it to 4gb, then i heard about 32bits are not capable of 4gb rams so I checked back if I really have a 32proc
[00:11] <WatchMan> Watching videos fullscreen seem to be very laggy to me. Hardware drivers updated. Flash is installed as well... any tips?
[00:11] <iceroot> alankila: yes but to late
[00:11] <Gibson> dn4: you should try shooting at lower fps, what kind of camera are you using?
[00:11] <EastDallas> igie:  We'll get it to work.
[00:11] <alankila> erUSUL: yes, but it's still not user friendly.
[00:11] <EastDallas> igie: gimme a sec
[00:12] <iceroot> alankila: and amd dont like that idea i think .)
[00:12] <igie> EastDallas: ok, thanks
[00:12] <h4f> any one know of linux keyloger. I mean to run on my own machine. to keep track of all keys pressed ?
[00:12] <l3ns> erUSUL, iceroot , but now thanks to you both I can freely update my ram to 4gb :)
[00:12] <Crazy|One> right i have a query, i have ubuntu 9.10 on my laptop and i thought everything was running perfet until i ran system monitor.  I get a box shaded in lines of color, screenshot can be seen at the link, any ideas what the problem could be?   http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2148/screenshotfp.png
[00:13] <dn4> Gibson: DSC-T10 Super SteadyShot 7.2mega pixels Sony
[00:13] <Geyeda> Hi there. Just a small question about the latest Ubuntu release. /tmp was mounted as tmpfs in some older releases, but it seems like its an ordinary folder nowadays. Is there a specific reason for that?
[00:13] <l3ns> erUSUL, why does a 64bit proc needs a minimum of 4gb ram?
[00:14] <bishop> crazy one believe that is common. do not know how to avoid it maybe someone does.
[00:14] <plustax> whats the best torrent prog for ubuntu?
[00:14] <erUSUL> l3ns: it does not need a minimum (i use it with 3 GiB).
[00:14] <Crazy|One> bishop, when you say common, u mean its a bug?
[00:15] <kinja-sheep> h4f: Google. It is very likely that any keyloggers softwares aren't part of the repo because it post a security risk to users. (FROWNING UPON ON YOU).
[00:15] <bishop> yes
[00:15] <alankila> l3ns: the argument was more about that 32-bit systems are limited to using about 3 GB of memory and need to do various tricks past that. So that is one of the best reasons to use 64-bit system.
[00:15] <l3ns> erUSUL, hm. but do you know the reason why 32bit procs cam only handle <4gb ram?
[00:15] <erUSUL> l3ns: but if you have the system already installed there is no point in reinstalling it just becouse you can. with 4 GiB or more you need 64 bits for the system to use all ram
[00:15] <EastDallas> igie: open a terminal and type sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[00:15] <Crazy|One> bishop, ok i will look around see if i can find out
[00:15] <plustax> whats the best torrent prog for ubuntu?
[00:15] <plustax> whats the best torrent prog for ubuntu?
[00:16] <erUSUL> l3ns: long history short 2^32 == 4 GiB
[00:16] <plustax> sorry for double post!
[00:16] <kinja-sheep> !best | plustax
[00:16] <bishop> u got it
[00:16] <kinja-sheep> plustax: Transmission!
[00:16] <plustax> lol
[00:16] <igie> EastDallas: done
[00:16] <plustax> okay, well someone make me a suggestion
[00:16] <l3ns> erUSUL, hehe nice I got the picture well :) thanks also to iceroot and alankila :)
[00:16] <majuk> plustax, They're free, pick one, try it.
[00:17] <kinja-sheep> !torrent | plustax
[00:17] <kinja-sheep> plustax: What are you looking for in your torrenting experience?
[00:17] <EastDallas> igie: hit ctrl+f and search for the phrase 'wins support'  change it to yes
[00:17] <erUSUL> l3ns: to be fair there is a way for a 32 bit processor to handle more then 4 GiB using pae
[00:17] <erUSUL> l3ns: in karmic there is a generic pae kernel
[00:17] <plustax> not sure
[00:17] <plustax> something that works well
[00:17] <plustax> and is fast I guess
[00:17] <legend2440> l3ns: or you could keep the ubuntu 32  install and use the  linux-image-2.6.31-16-generic-pae  which can handle  more then 4GB RAM
[00:17] <majuk> lol
[00:17] <erUSUL> !info linux-image-generic-pae
[00:17] <igie> East Dallas: done
[00:18] <plustax> oh okay it seems I have transmission already
[00:18] <peepsalot> can someone help me fix grub after installing windows dual boot?  i tried booting a livecd and doing: sudo grub, root (hd0,0), setup (hd0), quit   now i can boot back into ubuntu, but my ubuntu root partition is read only
[00:18] <plustax> haha
[00:18] <plustax> nvm
[00:18] <bishop> bbak
[00:18] <erUSUL> l3ns: but pae is kind of a hack (and hits performance)
[00:18] <kinja-sheep> plustax: As I said, Transmission does the job and is part of Ubuntu-Desktop so you should see it in Applications --> Internet.
[00:18] <l3ns> legend2440, erUSUL why not go reinstall with a 64bit ubuntu?...i just downloaded it now...
[00:18] <plustax> thank you sir
[00:18] <legend2440> l3ns: as far as I know the only advantage to installing ubuntu 64 would be a slight increase in performance for cpu intensive operations. for example encoding videos would be a bit faster
[00:18] <erUSUL> l3ns: do as you want.
[00:18] <l3ns> erUSUL, are there any performance issues with 64bit ubuntu?
[00:18] <alankila> l3ns: there is little practical benefit, and some loss of compatibility, as 32 bits is still the mainstream system.
[00:18] <a> peepsalot: what grub version do you have ?
[00:19] <erUSUL> l3ns: no that i know of
[00:19] <alankila> l3ns: by all means give 64 bits a go, and if all goes well you don't notice anything being any different at all.
[00:19] <peepsalot> a, not sure, whichever comes default with 9.04
[00:19] <EastDallas> igie: got it?
[00:19] <bishop> bak again
[00:19] <a> peepsalot: that's 1.xx
[00:19] <tbrock_> what file controls how X starts on boot
[00:20] <igie> EastDallas: it should work now ?
[00:20] <tbrock_> and how could i see what is happening if this fails
[00:20] <alankila> l3ns: but chances are that the first thing you need to do is rip out the flash player in 64-bit ubuntu and replace that one with the alpha version at least.
[00:20] <a> peepsalot: that'll be a bit more complicated
[00:20] <a> actually the best would be a reinstall of ubuntu
[00:20] <EastDallas> igie: save it, and you'll need to restart samba
[00:20] <l3ns> alankila, erUSUL legend2440 , I have a new hd, can I just install the 64bit ubuntu there, keeping my 32 bit intact on the old hd?
[00:21] <EastDallas> igie: in a terminal type /etc/init.d/samba restart
[00:21] <a> peepsalot: because rewriting grub config etc. from scretch is really hard
[00:21] <erUSUL> l3ns: yes. then you can just transfer the home folder and the conf files to the 64 bit install
[00:21] <sprung> after FIVE distribution upgrades, simply reinstalling Ubuntu solved a load of problems for me.
[00:21] <EastDallas> igie:  we may have to do something else, but lets see if it works now
[00:21] <LlamaZorz> I assume the ubuntu livecd uses tmpfs, but the wikipedia page for tmpfs says that it can use a backing store swap space,  How can it use swap space if the drives are not mounted?
[00:21] <sprung> I was one of those people who tried out Automatix back in the days of Feisty and broke stuff
[00:22] <alankila> LlamaZorz: it uses it if it's available.
[00:22] <l3ns> erUSUL, what are conf files and where can I see them?
[00:22] <igie> EastDallas:  * Starting Samba daemons                                                [fail]
[00:22] <erUSUL> sprung: shame on you then ;)
[00:22] <WatchMan> Watching videos fullscreen seem to be very laggy to me. Hardware drivers updated. Flash is installed as well... any tips?
[00:22] <erUSUL> !automatix
[00:22] <LlamaZorz> alankila: So the drive needs to be mounted
[00:22] <iceroot> WatchMan: jaunty with intel?
[00:22] <goopish> Feisty... yarrrrggg
[00:22] <sprung> erUSUL, shame on THEM for not warning anybody.
[00:22] <EastDallas> igie: try /etc/init.d/samba start
[00:22] <a> peepsalot: are you still there ?
[00:23] <igie> EastDallas: Its taking a long time to open "Igie" ... now it says unable to mount location.
[00:23] <erUSUL> sprung: we (the ircers) warn everybody systematically ;)
[00:23] <igie> but at least I can see it now.
[00:23] <lsdluna> can someone help? I use "lame audio.wav audio.mp3" and I get "Warning: Unsupported audio format"?
[00:23] <WatchMan> iceroot: intel yes. 9.01 karmic
[00:23] <alankila> LlamaZorz: yes, the swap needs to be enabled before tmpfs will use it. Even then it will only do the normal paging sort of activity with it, it doesn't by default write to swap. It's just a way to extend tmpfs size if physical memory is constrained.
[00:23] <EastDallas> igie: were you able to get samba started?
[00:23] <iceroot> WatchMan: hm, the problem i was thinking about has been solved with karmic
[00:23] <peepsalot> a, yes
[00:23] <igie> EastDallas: it failed again
[00:23] <igie> * Starting Samba daemons                                                [fail]
[00:23] <erUSUL> lsdluna: you are sure is a wav file ? try --> lame -r audio.wav audio.mp3
[00:24] <WatchMan> iceroot, where can I look to find out what version I am using?
[00:24] <iceroot> WatchMan: lsb_release -a
[00:24] <LlamaZorz> alankila: So if no swap partition is mounted then, it will never automount a partition labled swap
[00:24] <alankila> LlamaZorz: indeed not.
[00:24] <peepsalot> a, i guess i'll just do a fresh install of 9.10
[00:24] <lsdluna> erUSUL: its worked thanks a lot
[00:25] <a> Peepsalot, that would be the best
[00:25] <erUSUL> lsdluna: no problem (the file is not a wav but raw cda)
[00:25] <igie> * Stopping Samba daemons                                                       start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 2856: Operation not permitted
[00:25] <igie> start-stop-daemon: warning: failed to kill 2860: Operation not permitted
[00:25] <igie>                                                                          [ OK ]
[00:25] <igie>  * Starting Samba daemons                                                [fail]
[00:25] <FloodBot4> igie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:25] <lsdluna> one more thing, can anyone guide me to how I can type in Chinese with the ChangJie method?
[00:25] <EastDallas> igie: give me a second
[00:25] <igie> sorry about the flooding
[00:26] <anto9us> igie, you need sudo
[00:27] <igie> anto9us: thanks... it worked
[00:27] <EastDallas> thanks  anto9us...duh
[00:27] <igie> EastDallas: I got it restarted
[00:27] <igie> haha.. ya, my bad
[00:27] <EastDallas> now try connecting to the remote machine
[00:29] <EastDallas> igie: are you able to connect by name now?
[00:30] <Hydrosis> Sorry to ask about Conky here, but no one is answering in the #conky channel.  I need to know if it's possible to add clickable links to conky.  I have a few RSS feeds imported, and I would like to be able to click on them and have my browser open the link.  Cany ANY text be linked to a url in conky?
[00:31] <igie> EastDallas: I can't even see the workgroup now :(
[00:31] <igie> EastDallas: nor can I connect by IP, I was able to 2 seconds ago... :(
[00:31] <Typh> Can anyone lend me a hand with troubleshooting wireless? It dies on suspend and I can't get it back. Karmic NBR, EEE 1008ha
[00:31] <igie> EastDallas: Maybe I need to restart?
[00:32] <EastDallas> igie: give it a second and try connecting by ip again.  samba sometimes takes a little time to restart
[00:33] <bishop> leaving
[00:33] <lsdluna> erUSUL: the new mp3 file is just white noise (all fuzzy) ?
[00:34] <EastDallas> igie:  Theres another line we might need to check for in your smb.conf
[00:34] <erUSUL> lsdluna: dunno maybe -r was not the correct switch ...
[00:34] <dragon> how can I make a program start at system startup under my uid?
[00:34] <EastDallas> igie: any luck connecting by ip or name now?
[00:34] <igie> EastDallas: Ok I can see the network place, but to open "Igie" its taking a long time
[00:35] <erUSUL> lsdluna: what does « file file.wav » says ?
[00:35] <timboy_> is there a command line to switch to different dns server? I'm trying to help someone change theirs and they can't figure out how to do it in gui...
[00:35] <EastDallas> igie: is it opening?
[00:35] <igie> EastDallas: it says: "Opening "Igie" You can stop this operation by clicking cancel.
[00:35] <lsdluna> erUSUL: Microsoft ASF
[00:35] <igie> East Dallas: it hasn't as yet.
[00:35] <LlamaZorz> Where can I find out what the different highlights in gnome-terminal mean?
[00:36] <EastDallas> igie:  open your smb. conf (sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf) again and look for this line.  name resolve order = lmhosts host wins bcast.  Change it to name resolve order = wins lmhosts host bcast.  Put wins in front.
[00:37] <igie> EastDallas: unable to mount location, failed to retrieve share list from server.
[00:38] <EastDallas> igie: ok...make the change to your smb.conf...  You'll need to make the same changes to the other machine.
[00:38] <aikul> hola
[00:38] <erUSUL> timboy_: it wont survive a reboot but works for a quick test --> echo -e "nameserver dns1_ip\nnameserver dns2_ip" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[00:39] <erUSUL> timboy_: note the \n
[00:39] <igie> EastDallas: I did it here, I'm going to do it there now.
[00:39] <jblack> Does the Karmic livecd install understand how to do lvm2?
[00:40] <EastDallas> igie: make sure you change wins support to yes
[00:40] <erUSUL> timboy_: for example google dns --> echo -e "nameserver 4.4.4.4\nnameserver8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[00:40] <erUSUL> timboy_: for example google dns --> echo -e "nameserver 4.4.4.4\nnameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[00:40] <erUSUL> sorry for the typo
[00:40] <timboy_> erUSUL, will that remove the nameserver that is in there first?
[00:40] <erUSUL> timboy_: will overwritte them yes
[00:41] <Mefached> Where are the configuration files put after an apt-get? I'm tired of the standard configuration of things like shells and other utilities, and I'd like to write my .zshrc and the like from total scratch.
[00:41] <igie> EastDallas: I changed it on both..
[00:41] <igie> EastDallas: still taking forever to open.
[00:41] <erUSUL> Mefached: zshrc is in your home and you can do whatever you want with it
[00:42] <EastDallas> igie: you'll need to restart samba on both machines: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[00:42] <erUSUL> timboy_: if you want to append use "tee --append"
[00:42] <Nomadluap> how do I change the values listed in "xinput list"?
[00:43] <Mefached> erUSUL: Yes, but a lot of things come with obvious configuration already done, like mrxvt. I want my applications to install completely cleanly of any Ubuntu configuration.
[00:43] <legend2440> lsdluna: try renaming the file from  song.wav to song.asf then try          lame song.asf song.mp3    you may also have to install    ubuntu-restricted-extras  so you have the right codecs for  asf files.  not sure  but you may have to
[00:43] <pilif12p> Whats the apt-get to get mySQL?
[00:43] <wgrant> lla/win 11
[00:43] <erUSUL> pilif12p: sudo aptitude intall mysql-server ??
[00:44] <erUSUL> !software | pilif12p
[00:44] <nomasteryoda> pilif12p, if you type "apt-cache search mysql" you'll get all programs with anything to do with mysql
[00:44] <lsdluna> legend2440: just tried rename, will check if i have ubuntu-restricted-extras installed, get back to you in just a sec
[00:45] <ninggeng2> help please: i installed ubuntu without a network connection, now i have a connection, how do i configure it?
[00:45] <pilif12p>   mysql-server-5.0: Depends: mysql-client-5.0 (>= 5.1.30really5.0.83-0ubuntu3) but it is not going to be installed
[00:45] <pilif12p> E: Broken packages
[00:45] <Typh> I feel dumb for asking this, but I can never figure it out: what's the diff between i386 and amd64 and how do I know which to get?
[00:46] <pilif12p> Typh: amd64 is 64 bit
[00:46] <Mefached> Typh: If you're 32-bit, the first. amd64 is 64-bit.
[00:46] <ardchoil1e> Typh: i386 is 32 bit, amd64 is 64 bit
[00:46] <timboy_> erUSUL, wthx
[00:46] <a> Typh: i386 is for intel cpu, amd64 for amd
[00:46] <hanghai> chan qua
[00:46] <lsdluna> legend2440: Version 36 is already installed. And I get a "Warning: Unsupported audio format"
[00:46] <Typh> and that's the only difference? what odd names.
[00:46] <timboy_> Typh, do you know what processor you have?
[00:46] <timboy_> Typh, how much memory do you have?
[00:47] <igie> EastDallas: Unable to mount location... grrr...
[00:47] <Typh> I know the difference between 32 and 64, I just never understood those identifiers on their own.
[00:47] <timboy_> Typh, 32bit will work on all processors 64 will only work on 64 capable processor
[00:47] <timboy_> 32 will only recognize 3GB of ram and 64 will go over 3GB ram
[00:48] <timboy_> Typh, ^^^
[00:48] <timboy_> erUSUL, thx
[00:48] <ubuntu_> hi, earlier today I installed xubuntu on an usb stick after a shutdown a few minutes ago, the stick wont boot anymore and I get: Not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0) what happened here?
[00:48] <ardchoil1e> timboy_: I thought 32 will rec up to 4gb ram
[00:48] <EastDallas> igie: hmmmm
[00:48] <timboy_> ardchoil1e, no
[00:48] <EastDallas> igie: can you connect via ip?
[00:48] <DaZ> it's approx ~3,5 gb
[00:48] <ardchoil1e> timboy_: Thanks for that info
[00:48] <khelvan> Hi, is there any linux equivalent to chkdsk that can handle NTFS without causing data loss?
[00:48] <ninggeng2> sorry i have to ask this again, how do i get ubuntu to recognize a new network connection
[00:48] <DaZ> and using pae you can get much more.
[00:49] <legend2440> lsdluna: not sure then. i've never tried working with asf  files myself
[00:49] <timboy_> ardchoil1e, it is possible to compile kernel to allow for 3+ but not as easy as 64 install
[00:49] <ardchoil1e> timboy_: Ah, good to know
[00:50] <wgrant> DaZ: But PAE doesn't normally help if you have 4GiB of RAM -- you should still lose the same amount of RAM between 3GiB and 4GiB.
[00:50] <Alice1> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?" 0 0 0
[00:50] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - The above was an exploit attempt that may have disconnected some users. Please ignore it, or type « /msg ubottu exploit » for more information.
[00:50] <lsdluna> legend2440: yeah I followed the pdf you mentioned earlier for ripping mms audio... only just realised its .asf not .wav... i wonder if I've done something wrong on the ripping procedure
[00:51] <igie> EastDallas: nope, unable to mount
[00:52] <legend2440> lsdluna: maybe i used to download mms streams as wave files and then convert to mp3 so i could use them on my mp3 player. but its been a while since i've don any of that
[00:52] <`mOOse`> ubuntu - turn your machine completely off and then cold reboot - see if it works then
[00:53] <EastDallas> igie:  open your smb.conf again, and change it from wins support = yes to wins support = true
[00:53] <lsdluna> legend2440: it is safe to assume that with lame installed, and the ubuntu-restricted-extras package installed I have the necessary tools and codecs right? Which means I'm just doing something wrong or missing at my end?
[00:54] <legend2440> lsdluna: well according to this you should have the codecs you need in ubuntu-restricted-extras   http://www.ehow.com/how_5234211_convert-asf-mp-linux.html
[00:54] <SilverFox> I'm interested in building a mail server.  I'm moderately familiar with qmail, but it sounds like exim is the MTA of choice for ubuntu?  I need to be able to support SMTP Auth and SSL, and plan to set up webmail as well.  I only use ubuntu server, so should I stick with qmail, or take a try with Exim?  (This needs to be a toaster as well, multiple domains)
[00:54] <igie> EastDallas: Could not display "smb://192.168.1.100" Error: DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.InvalidArgs: Mountpoint Already registered
[00:54] <lstarnes> SilverFox: I thought it was postfix, not exim
[00:55] <legend2440> lsdluna: the wave file sounds good?
[00:55] <wgrant> SilverFox: The Dovecot/Postfix combination is favoured by the Ubuntu Server Guide, which contains full instructions on creating such a mail system.
[00:55] <lsdluna> legend2440: yes I've been on that site too. The wav file sounds perfect.
[00:56] <SilverFox> wgrant: ok.  I'll take a look at that.
[00:56] <steven_Laptop> Hello all were has grub been moved to? (9.10 64bit?
[00:56] <lstarnes> steven_Laptop: grub2 is available for all versions of 9.1-
[00:56] <lstarnes> *9.10
[00:56] <EastDallas> igie, did you change the yes to true on both machines and restart samba?
[00:56] <steven_Laptop> :)
[00:57] <EastDallas> igie: restart samba on both machines?
[00:57] <steven_Laptop> lstarnes, how about xorg?
[00:57] <wgrant> SilverFox: On Ubuntu 9.04 and later, installing the 'dovecot-postfix' will get you a working mail system, which you could easily configure to your needs.
[00:57] <ninggeng> how do i configure network connection after ubuntu is installed?
[00:57] <lstarnes> steven_Laptop: of course!
[00:57] <lstarnes> steven_Laptop: why wouldn't xorg be ported to 64-bit?
[00:57] <timboy_> is there a linux command that is similar to ipconfig -a? ipconfig -a gives you dns etc
[00:58] <steven_Laptop> lstarnes, how do I get it or were can I find Xorg
[00:58] <daftykins> ifconfig -a
[00:58] <steven_Laptop> sorry
[00:58] <daftykins> timboy_: DNS is application layer, hence exists in /etc/resolv.conf
[00:58] <canard> hello, sorry if this question is answered elsewhere but I had difficulty finding it. Is there a good chance I'll be able to get Ubuntu Netbook Remix working on a ``Free Software only'' install? (Acer 150L)
[00:58] <lstarnes> steven_Laptop: it is installed by default in the desktop versions of ubuntu
[00:58] <daftykins> "cat /etc/resolv.conf" is a good way of checking both static and dynamic DNS server IPs
[00:58] <lstarnes> steven_Laptop: if it isn't installed for you, install the xserver-xorg package usign apt-get
[00:58] <legend2440> lsdluna: well you could try installing Audacity  and open the wave file with that and then choose Save As and choose mp3 format
[00:59] <daftykins> ninggeng: have you booted the installation and need to set a static IP?
[00:59] <lsdluna> legend2440: might work, i actually need Audacity to chop the mp3 up into manage-able parts too
[00:59] <legend2440> lsdluna: yes Audacity will do that too
[01:00] <steven_Laptop> Xorg.conf = /etc/X11/xorg correct? not there
[01:01] <daftykins> /etc/X11/ - there's no longer one these days really.
[01:01] <wgrant> steven_Laptop: /etc/X11/xorg.conf has been unnecessary for a year or two now.
[01:01] <lstarnes> steven_Laptop: there can be a /etc/X11/xorg.conf though, but usually Xorg automatically configures itself using HAL and DBus
[01:01] <igie> EastDallas: I made the changes, I can only connect via IP, not via name.. no success by name
[01:02] <EastDallas> igie: are you able to browse folders when you connect via ip?
[01:02] <steven_Laptop> I need a howto on getting xorg please
[01:02] <daftykins> what OS steven_Laptop ?
[01:03] <daftykins> or which ubuntu ver specifically?
[01:03] <wgrant> steven_Laptop: You have X.org if you have a desktop installation of Ubuntu.
[01:03] <dath> how can i stop the screen from turning black when watching a movie
[01:03] <steven_Laptop> 9.10 64bit
[01:03] <wgrant> steven_Laptop: What are you trying to do?
[01:03] <daftykins> there's a meta package called "ubuntu-desktop" you can "sudo apt-get install" if you want the whole desktop.
[01:03] <newser> hello, I have a eeepc with multitouchpad and I just upgraded my system to 9.10, but now the touchpad does not have the same functionality as before. Anyone knows how can I restore the multitouch functionality?
[01:03] <lstarnes> steven_Laptop: which edition did you install?
[01:03] <daftykins> dath: disable or change the timeout for the screensaver
[01:03] <lstarnes> steven_Laptop: the server edition, the desktop edition, or the alternate cd?  Or was it something else?
[01:04] <steven_Laptop> I need to back it up... nvidia has crashed every time I try to install it..
[01:04] <igie> EastDallas: yup, i can browse
[01:04] <ninggeng> daftykins: the installation is booted, and i don't mind being on a dynamic ip, apt-get update is showing cannot resolve xx errors
[01:04] <kain_> hi, how can i change permissions on my whole ntfs drive?
[01:04] <steven_Laptop> lstarnes, desktop
[01:04] <ninggeng> daftykins: so i'm assuming connection error
[01:04] <EastDallas> igie: ok, lets do this.  in a terminal type sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[01:04] <daftykins> ninggeng: ah, is it connected to a router sharing an internet connection?
[01:04] <lstarnes> steven_Laptop: then xorg should be installed on it
[01:04] <Hilikus> hey guys
[01:04] <wgrant> steven_Laptop: You mean you need to back up your X.org configuration?
[01:04] <gnomemage7> list
[01:04] <lstarnes> steven_Laptop: how much ram do you have and what card are you using?
[01:05] <ninggeng> daftyins: yes a switch to a switch then to a router
[01:05] <igie> EastDallas: I did it, what am I looking for ?
[01:05] <daftykins> ninggeng: ok, if you do "ifconfig" do you have correct IP information entered? have you also checked the DNS server IPs in your /etc/resolv.conf ?
[01:05] <Hilikus> i installed X in my ubuntu server and installed the binary nvidia driver to use SVIDEO but my xorg.conf is almost empty, it only has 2 blocks of settings. how can i regenerate it?
[01:05] <anto9us> igie, try <host>.local
[01:05] <canard>  hello, sorry if this question is answered elsewhere but I had
[01:05] <daftykins> ninggeng: also does it fail if you try to ping google.com ?
[01:05] <canard> 	 difficulty finding it. Is there a good chance I'll be able to get
[01:05] <canard> 	 Ubuntu Netbook Remix working on a ``Free Software only'' install?
[01:05] <canard> 	 (Acer 150L)
[01:05] <steven_Laptop> lstarnes, 4g of ram and a 9300M GS card
[01:05] <FloodBot2> canard: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:06] <EastDallas> igie add a line that says 192.168.2.100        Igie
[01:06] <ninggeng> daftykins: ping: unknown host google.com
[01:06] <igie> auto9us: I don't know how to try that. What do i type and where?
[01:06] <daftykins> ninggeng: yeah ok sounds like you don't have any DNS servers entered, is there anything in the file /etc/resolv.conf ?
[01:06] <EastDallas> igie: on the other machine, add the appropriate line for the machine you are on now (i.e. ipaddress    Name)
[01:06] <steven_Laptop> lstarnes, I was going to conf. my own install with nvidia
[01:06] <manimecker> hey
[01:06] <manimecker> hello
[01:06] <anto9us> igie, just add .local to the hostname
[01:06] <manimecker> how to register
[01:07] <manimecker> how to register
[01:07] <LP> hi, anyone knows how to disable IPv6 DNS queries in a fresh Ubuntu 9.10 desktop i386 ?
[01:07] <ardchoil1e> !register | manimecker
[01:07] <ninggeng> daftykins: empty
[01:07] <manimecker> thanks
[01:07] <manimecker> !register
[01:07] <manimecker> !register | HABBO89
[01:07] <igie> ok, thanks.. Let me try
[01:07] <manimecker> !register | manimecker
[01:08] <daftykins> ninggeng: ok what is your router's IP range? (e.g. 192.168.x.x ?)
[01:08] <ninggeng> daftykins: yes, 192.168.0.100-254
[01:08] <EastDallas> igie: btw...these ARE case sensitive, so I would suggest you use all lower case
[01:08] <daftykins> ninggeng: on a terminal type: echo nameserver 192.168.0.1 > /etc/resolv.conf (where 0.1 you change to be your router's IP)
[01:09] <daftykins> then try pinging google again
[01:09] <daftykins> this tells it to ask your router for DNS queries
[01:09] <igie> EastDallas: ok
[01:09] <manimecker_> !channel
[01:09] <EastDallas> igie: see if you can open by name
[01:10] <kain_> i've mounted my ntfs partition with umask 007, why is it the the permission "write" isn't there?
[01:10] <ninggeng> daftykins: did echo ns for 0.1 and 0.3 (router ip) but ping still nothing
[01:10] <igie> EastDallas: Success :o)
[01:11] <igie> EastDallas: now the proof of success will be if it works after i restart both machines...
[01:11] <ninggeng> daftykins: actually
[01:11] <igie> EastDallas: brb with results :o) thanks :o)
[01:11] <EastDallas> igie: you'll probably want to give both of these computers static IPs
[01:11] <berrybarry> anyone have experince with ffserver?
[01:11] <EastDallas> igie..don't leave yet
[01:11] <canard> Hello, sorry. Does anyone have any idea about the success rate of free siftware only installs using ubuntu netbook remix
[01:11] <ninggeng> daftykins: writing it with echo gave me a -bash ** permission denied
[01:11] <ninggeng> daftykins: trying su
[01:11] <daftykins> ninggeng: ok it might be different, use a text editor and edit /etc/resolv.conf and try using the OpenDNS IPs, so you'd have the following content in /etc/resolv.conf ... http://pastebin.com/d2374783f
[01:11] <igie> EastDallas: ok
[01:12] <daftykins> ah yeah sorry you probably do need permissions ninggeng
[01:12] <igie> EastDallas: how can I give them static addresses?
[01:12] <berrybarry> igie need help?
[01:12] <emanux> hello, just install ekiga, how can use it as replacement to hardware IP phone. im currently connected to our office now
[01:12] <berrybarry> igie no-ip man
[01:12] <EastDallas> Igie: judging by the fact that one machines IP is 192.168.1.100, you can probably just choose anything from 192.168.1.2-99
[01:12] <emanux> what configuration to make it work?
[01:12] <emanux> thanks.
[01:12] <Pedrolito> hi, all of a sudden, after a reboot, karmic fails to load the X server as usual. I get in some log the error "(EE) Failed to load module "i810" (module does not exist, 0)"
[01:13] <EastDallas> igie: you'll need to change that hosts file to match the new ips
[01:13] <daftykins> Pedrolito: at terminal try typing "sudo modprobe i810"
[01:13] <berrybarry> igie no-ip.com sign up and download ubuntu from manager
[01:13] <newser> hello, how can I enable the multitouchpad feature? I have an eeepc 904ha
[01:13] <EastDallas> igie: system>Preferences>network connections
[01:14] <EastDallas> igie: click on the appropriate connection and choose 'Edit'
[01:14] <ninggeng> daftykins: ok the line "nameserver 192.168.0.3" is in /etc/resolv.conf but can't ping google still
[01:14] <daftykins> hmm
[01:14] <daftykins> ninggeng: ok can you type out the output of "route -n" ?
[01:15] <colemickens> I have Mac OS X and Windows on my laptop. I removed GRUB, I thought, but it is still showing up when I try to use my Boot Camp parition in Parallels
[01:15] <manimecker_> hello
[01:15] <EastDallas> Igie: if it's a wired connection go to the IPv4 tab choose 'Manual' from the drop down.
[01:15] <colemickens> How/what can I do to ensure that GRUB is gone completely?
[01:15] <daftykins> colemickens: which windows?
[01:15] <newser> hello, anyone knows how can I enable the multitouchpad feature on ubuntu 9.10? I have an eeepc 904ha
[01:15] <colemickens> I already ran Window's fixboot, fixmbr. daftykins, Windows 7.
[01:15] <ninggeng> daftykins: destination: 192.168.122.0 gateway 0.0.0.0 genmask 255.255.255.0 flags: U metric 0 Ref 0 Use 0 Iface virbr0
[01:16] <lsdluna> legend2440: solved the issue ^.^
[01:16] <legend2440> lsdluna: Audacity worked?
[01:16] <daftykins> colemickens: are you sure they're the appropriate ones for win7?
[01:17] <lsdluna> legend2440: had to convert asf to wav via mplayer, then use lame to convert wav to mp3. Audacity didn't work. But i'm sure it will now
[01:17] <daftykins> ninggeng: ah so your network is actually 192.168.122.x ? or at least ubuntu thinks so
[01:17] <daftykins> ninggeng: are you 100% sure it's 192.168.0.x ?
[01:17] <legend2440> lsdluna: ok very good  persistence paid off
[01:17] <ninggeng> daftykins: hmm
[01:17] <lsdluna> legend2440: yes thanks for the initial help ^.^
[01:18] <colemickens> daftykins the tools? I actually ran bootrec /fixboot and bootrec /fixmbr, which are appropriate (and only available in) the Windows 7 Recovery Console
[01:18] <legend2440> lsdluna: your welcome
[01:18] <ninggeng> daftykins: yes, it shouldnt be 122 tho
[01:18] <daftykins> ah right, that's the equivalent of what i would've done then colemickens - i'm surprised it's still there
[01:18] <EastDallas> Igie: (you could make one 50 and the other 51) the address is going to be 192.168.2.50, netmask is 255.255.255.0 and gateway is your router's IP address.  For DNS you should be able to get the addresses from your router.  Just enter them both separated by a comma.  Sometimes you can just enter your router's IP for the DNS.  Depends on the router
[01:18] <daftykins> ninggeng: what's the IP on the comp you're on now then?
[01:18] <colemickens> daftykins, Windows 7 boots fine (and without GRUB) when I restart my computer. When I try to load parallels and have it boot from the bootcamp partition, it acts like its going to boot GRUB, which I don't understand.
[01:18] <newser> !multitouchpad
[01:19] <colemickens> daftykins, I'm shocked to be honest. I think I'm going to remake the VM, but I can't imagine that its just pulling that out of no where
[01:19] <kemuffkamelen> In ubuntu, what is the standard procedure to get a mouse to work in CLI?
[01:19] <ninggeng> daftykins: one i'm on is 192.168.0.27 sitting on the same switch
[01:19] <daftykins> ah ok
[01:19] <aman> Hi
[01:20] <EastDallas> Igie:  The IP address should be 192.168.1.50, not a TWO.
[01:20] <daftykins> ninggeng: try "sudo route del net 192.168.122.0 netmask 255.255.255.0"
[01:20] <aman> Sorry I'm in rush and in deep need for help
[01:20] <daftykins> ninggeng: did that complete ok? should delete that first entry route -n gives
[01:20] <EastDallas> Igie: I hope that's not too confusing
[01:20] <LP> anyone knows how to disable IPv6 DNS queries in a fresh Ubuntu 9.10 desktop i386 ? (something like "no-ipv6" in /etc/resolv.conf ?!!)
[01:20] <a> aman: what's the prob ?
[01:20] <seizui> Guh... this is a bit aggrivating.
[01:21] <ninggeng> daftykins: net: unknows host
[01:21] <ninggeng> daftykins: unknown*
[01:21] <aman> I just want to enable the mic
[01:21] <daftykins> er try typing it as -net
[01:21] <seizui> I read through the problem. Unfortunately, still haven't figured out how to fix grub2 from freezing on me.
[01:21] <aman> I want to listen to my voice while using the mic
[01:21] <a> aman: what is you sys ?
[01:21] <seizui> Err.. through the grub2 webpage.
[01:21] <aman> ubuntu 9.10
[01:21] <ninggeng> daftykins: complete no feedback
[01:21] <narselon> I need help with applying gtk themes. When I try to enable them only the color scheme seems to apply except in root applications, which are fully themed. I know why the opposite would happen but I have no clue why only root applications work.
[01:22] <nickzxcv> so, I have been able to boot the ubuntu installer in xen 3.4.1, but it doesn't include the xen-netfront module so there is no network interface
[01:22] <aman> the mic works fine and I can use the sound recorder fine
[01:22] <nickzxcv> using http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/karmic/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64/
[01:22] <daftykins> ninggeng: cool, now do "sudo ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.x netmask 255.255.255.0" where "x" is an IP you're not already using on the network
[01:22] <Pedrolito> sorry, to whomever who answered me, the low resolution xsever that is currently running on my computer crashed
[01:22] <aman> a: I just need to get the mic to work "live"
[01:22] <Freemind9> I'm installing Return to Castle Wolfenstein for Linux following the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games/Native/ReturnToCastleWolfenstein and am at the point of executing the file ./wolf-linux-1.41b.x86.run, but get the following message: '/bin/sh: Can't open ./wolf-linux-1.41b.x86.run' and I'm wondering if I've done something wrong, have a corrupted file, or what...
[01:22] <daftykins> ninggeng: then do "sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.x" where x is the IP of your gateway to the Internet, so the router IP
[01:22] <seizui> I can only get -around- the log in problem, but trying to get into Ubuntu is still longer than it should be.
[01:22] <Pedrolito> I did sudo modprobe i810, and it seems to work
[01:22] <nickzxcv> is there an ubuntu installer that works with xen or should I just use debootstrap?
[01:23] <daftykins> Pedrolito: cool :)
[01:23] <Pedrolito> daftykins, but, I thought the driver for my chipset was supposed to be the intel one
[01:23] <daftykins> i810 means intel 810 chipset
[01:24] <Pedrolito> oh ok
[01:24] <Pedrolito> what should I do now to reboot using the normal driver?
[01:24] <daftykins> it should be permanently set now
[01:24] <dtork> anyone know how I can get my sources.list file back after seeing this: Unable to read /etc/apt/sources.list?
[01:25] <Pedrolito> so if I reboot it should work fine?
[01:25] <daftykins> Pedrolito: you can start X with "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[01:25] <Pedrolito> ok let me try this
[01:25] <daftykins> or reboot yeah :)
[01:25] <ninggeng> daftykins: SIOCADDRT: No such process
[01:25] <seizui> Guh, so is there a way to fix the GRUB2 freeze-up? I mean, all what I've seen is stuff being installed from Windows, but there isn't anything that really gives me any indication of 'a -fresh- copy of Ubuntu 9.10'.
[01:26] <daftykins> ninggeng: ah your interface might not be called "eth0", try "ifconfig -a" for a full name
[01:26] <ninggeng> daftykins: eth0 , lo & virbr0
[01:27] <daftykins> was it the eth0 one that failed? try "sudo ifconfig eth0 up" first and then the above again if so
[01:28] <evon> hello. i would like to access a network drive from ubuntu but I can't
[01:28] <seizui> Guh.
[01:28] <evon> the drive i am trying to access is an ubuntu machine
[01:28] <legend2440> dtork: in terminal try gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:28] <evon> i set the permissions and shared the drive through nautilus but my other computer can't see it
[01:28] <evon> can anyone help?
[01:29] <ninggeng> daftykins: oh that made eth0 UP, but still SIOCADDRT no such process
[01:29] <daftykins> ninggeng: what exactly are you typing when it fails?
[01:29] <tbrock_> hey guys, i was wondering if you might be able to help me with a xbmc-live question, it's based on ubuntu
[01:29] <asdf25> join #haskell
[01:29] <daftykins> tbrock_: yeah i just tested the latest RC recently, it's looking good
[01:29] <asdf25> oops
[01:29] <a> !xbmc
[01:29] <tbrock_> daftykins: yeah same
[01:29] <centHOGG> !info xbmc
[01:30] <ninggeng> daftykins: sudo route add default gw 192.168.0.3
[01:30] <tbrock_> although now when it boots it drops to console
[01:30] <seizui> Ugh....
[01:30] <tbrock_> i boot off the usb stick, works grea
[01:30] <tbrock_> great*
[01:30] <evon> hello. i would like to access a network drive from ubuntu but I can't
[01:30] <a> tbrock_: what is you prob ?
[01:30] <daftykins> ah, might be -add ninggeng , sorry i can't boot a Linux machine to 100% proof my commands :D
[01:30] <Pedrolito> daftykins, that did not work. The screen flickered a few times, and then I went back to the same situation
[01:30] <tbrock_> however, i installed it, ran apt-get update/upgrade and installed nvidia drivers, now xbmc only starts when i type startx
[01:30] <evon> the drive i am trying to access is an ubuntu machine
[01:30] <tbrock_> it use to start automatically
[01:30] <evon> i set the permissions and shared the drive through nautilus but my other computer can't see it
[01:30] <evon> can anyone help?
[01:30] <tbrock_> now it just has a black screen or console
[01:31] <daftykins> Pedrolito: ok maybe there's a more suitable driver for your graphics, whatever it is
[01:31] <tbrock_> any ideas?
[01:31] <ninggeng> daftykins: ahaha sorry i'm not experienced enough to know the difference
[01:31] <daftykins> tbrock_: yeah, i installed on one PC then ran it on another
[01:31] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Is there a linux tool for reading Windows Vista event logs?
[01:31] <daftykins> tbrock_: because my intended test machine refused to boot my CD-R ;/ did you do the same?
[01:31] <sandman> Doesn't Ubuntu have a 64-bit download?
[01:31] <lsdluna> is there a quick way i can alter the ID3tags of an mp3 via terminal i.e the title, artist, album?
[01:31] <Pedrolito> daftykins, what I don't understand is that my system has been working fine for a couple months, and then , all of a sudden, I rebooted today and I got this
[01:31] <tbrock_> no booting works
[01:31] <tbrock_> everything is fine
[01:32] <gimpy5301> Anyone know why a machine would prompt for a password for SSH when it should use a key, but only when it tries to SSH to itself?  SSH to other machines works fine and authorized_keys is correct.  It just prompts for a password when SSHing to itself.
[01:32] <tbrock_> except for the fact that xbmc won't start on boot
[01:32] <tbrock_> i can't figure out why
[01:32] <a> tbrock_: you xorg server is broken
[01:32] <tbrock_> i would think so
[01:32] <df00zzzz> Hey, I'm running ubuntu server.  Is it possible to get the system->administration->Language Support app
[01:32] <daftykins> a: no that's inapplicable to XBMC on it
[01:32] <tbrock_> but it works when i login and type start x
[01:32] <df00zzzz> What package do I have to install for that
[01:32] <daftykins> tbrock_: give me one second
[01:32] <tbrock_> ok
[01:32] <ninggeng> daftykins: sudo route -add default gw xxxxx gives "invalid option -- 'a' , 'd', 'd'
[01:32] <tbrock_> is it possible that the x server that gets started on boot is different than the one that starts when i type startx
[01:32] <dsnyders> Pedrolito, It's possible for an automatic update to foul up things.
[01:33] <tbrock_> ?
[01:33] <a> tbrock_: recover a xorg conf backup ?
[01:33] <daftykins> ah ok ninggeng sorry i must be remembering wrong
[01:33] <legend2440> lsdluna: not sure about cli   but easytag is good  its in synaptic
[01:33] <exodus_ms> LjL thank you for your help
[01:33] <gimpy5301> ninggeng: get rid of the dash before the add
[01:33] <lsdluna> legend2440: thanks will get that right away
[01:33] <daftykins> a: please, none of your suggestions are appropriate for XBMC live
[01:33] <tbrock_> a: dod that
[01:33] <Pedrolito> daftykins,  the only possibly sensitive package that was updated since the previous working reboot is upstart
[01:33] <Pedrolito> daftykins, is there a way to downgrade it?
[01:33] <daftykins> Pedrolito: sorry i've no idea then, your issue is beyond me
[01:33] <gregb> Having usb device (specialized) permissions issue on 9.10 x86 32bit. Can interact with via sudo, but not as regular user.
[01:34] <tbrock_> how can i see what is trying to start x on bootup
[01:34] <tbrock_> ?
[01:34] <a> daftykins: alright alright I'll shut up
[01:34] <ninggeng> gimpy: did that had "SIOCADDRT: No such process"
[01:34] <Pedrolito> daftykins, ok, thanks for trying
[01:34] <tbrock_> you know what I'm saying
[01:34] <sandman> Is Ubuntu's package repository locked each release?
[01:34] <tbrock_> how is that different than me typing startx
[01:34] <tbrock_> cause that works great
[01:34] <tbrock_> does it use another type of xorg?
[01:34] <tbrock_> or xorg.conf?
[01:34] <daftykins> tbrock_: http://xbmc.org/forum/showthread.php?s=f8122f4fd59a98a8e68d6a71d98662fb&t=62341
[01:34] <jtaji> tbrock_: no by default, gdm starts x
[01:35] <daftykins> there is no GDM on XBMC live because there is no login process (:
[01:35] <igie> EastDallas: sorry i had to do something real quick
[01:35] <df00zzzz> can someone do me a huge favor, go to edit menus, and look at what application "Language Support" is under system->administration
[01:35] <df00zzzz> It would give me something to google at least
[01:35] <igie> EastDallas: So what do i need to put in the DNS Server field?
[01:35] <df00zzzz> dont know what package i need to install to get that app
[01:36] <EastDallas> igie:  no problem...gave me chance 2 fix some dinner :)
[01:36] <jc> hi
[01:36] <jc> i've got a problem
[01:36] <igie> EastDallas: perfect
[01:36] <EastDallas> igie: get all my instrux?
[01:36] <legend2440> df00zzzz: /usr/bin/gnome-language-selector
[01:36] <dsnyders> df00zzzz, mine shows /usr/bin/gnome-language-selector
[01:36] <df00zzzz> Thanks guys!
[01:36] <igie> EastDallas: yup
[01:36] <jc> who has knowledge of JACK and MIDI?
[01:37] <daftykins> ninggeng: what is in your /etc/network/interfaces file for eth0? any references?
[01:37] <gdiz> hey everyone, is it possible to give a program root permission.  I want the program to be able to shutdown the computer without asking me, is that possible?
[01:37] <df00zzzz> Thanks, I found the package
[01:37] <EastDallas> igie: I screwed up that ip at first.  make sure you use a 1 instead of a two.  192.168.1.50
[01:37] <a> Gdiz, run it with sudo
[01:37] <daftykins> gdiz: you need to add it to the sudoers file, i've no idea where or how, but i'm pretty sure that's what you want to do :)
[01:37] <tbrock_> daftykins: that look shelpful
[01:38] <igie> EastDallas: I did, how about the DNS server field, what goes there? the ip?
[01:38] <jc> who knows about jack and can help me with midi connection?
[01:38] <ninggeng> daftykins: auto lo , iface lo inet loopback
[01:38] <digitalaxis> Hey all
[01:38] <EastDallas> igie: you should be able to get the ip addresses of your dns servers from your router's status page.
[01:39] <Freemind9> Ok, found it.
[01:39] <gdiz> daftykins, got it...i'll go looking
[01:39] <berrybarry> EastDallas do you need a static ip help/dns/domain?
[01:39] <binMonkey> hi, guys.  does anyone else here use the chess database 'jose'?
[01:40] <EastDallas> berrybarry: I'm walking him through setting static IP
[01:40] <daftykins> ninggeng: ah, add the extra lines "auto eth0" then "iface eth0 inet dhcp" below it
[01:40] <daftykins> then reboot
[01:40] <ninggeng> ok
[01:41] <berrybarry> EastDallas have him go set up account at no-ip.com and then install no-ip2 under sPM
[01:41] <EastDallas> igie: enter this command to get your dns ips: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[01:41] <berrybarry> EastDallas thats all simple
[01:42] <EastDallas> berrybarry: he just needs static ips so host names will resolve correctly on the local network.
[01:42] <nexcez> net
[01:43] <berrybarry> EastDallas whats services is he looking to install?
[01:43] <EastDallas> berrybarry: he's not installing any services, he just wants to access his samba shares using host names instead of ips.
[01:43] <EastDallas> berrybarry:  wins wasn't cooperating
[01:44] <x_> hi all
[01:44] <gregb> Hi everybody. I need to understand USB device permissions for 9.10. Any links?
[01:44] <x_> how can i add vpn connection
[01:44] <daftykins> x_: you need to install a VPN provider app, do "apt-cache search vpn" for plugins to network manager
[01:44] <ninggeng> daftykins: YES!! ping google success
[01:44] <EastDallas> berrybarry: so he just added the info to his hosts files, and I thought static ips was probably the safest way to make sure he didn't have to do it again.
[01:45] <daftykins> x_: "network-manager-openvpn" is an example package
[01:45] <berrybarry> EastDallas I would help him make a ftp.... so easy :)
[01:45] <daftykins> ninggeng: cool :) sorry i went such a long way about it, pretty tired here XD
[01:45] <ninggeng> daftykins: so it was just the two lines from etc/network/interface that was missing?
[01:45] <igie> EastDallas: ok so that didn't work
[01:45] <daftykins> to have DHCP running yeah ninggeng
[01:45] <ninggeng> daftykins: your help is greatly appreciated
[01:45] <daftykins> by the way is it a desktop ubuntu install?
[01:46] <ninggeng> no server
[01:46] <EastDallas> igie: what do you mean it didn't work?
[01:46] <igie> EastDallas: i got disconnected from the net all together
[01:46] <ninggeng> now i'm wishing i had GUI
[01:46] <daftykins> ninggeng: ah ok cool, because specifying an interface in the interfaces file with a desktop prevents network manager working, just something worth bearing in mind
[01:46] <berrybarry> EastDallas is this samba your trying to do?
[01:46] <daftykins> ninggeng: "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" ;)
[01:47] <ninggeng> daftykins: hmm
[01:47] <seizui> Hrm.
[01:47] <daftykins> there's an echo in here ;)
[01:47] <igie> EastDallas: the ip and gateway and net mask... do i get those from the status tab in my router ?
[01:47] <EastDallas> well, everything should work fine with the dynamic IPs, but at some point they might change, and you'll have to go back and edit your hosts file again with the new IP addresses
[01:47] <ubuntu__1> I'm trying to get 1366x768 but don't know how.  Can anyone help me/
[01:47] <ubuntu__1> ?
[01:47] <seizui> Hah.
[01:47] <helluvaCSmajor> how do i create a user with the same priveliges as the user created during installation?
[01:47] <ubuntu__1> I have no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file yet.
[01:47] <seizui> I'm just fiddling with GRUB2, which is pissing me off with the loading.
[01:47] <EastDallas> igie: The IP is whatever you want it to be as long as it starts 192.168.1.
[01:47] <ubuntu__1> Anyone?
[01:47] <seizui> Reading through these files, I am still not coming up with any way to -fix- the problem.
[01:48] <EastDallas> igie: the last number needs to be between 2 and 99
[01:48] <EastDallas> igie the mask is 255.255.255.0
[01:48] <seizui> And I am getting the feeling that I may have to downgrade it to 9.08.
[01:48] <EastDallas> igie: the gateway is your router's ip address (probably 192.168.1.1)
[01:48] <igie> EastDallas: my Static DNS1: in the router is 192.168.1.100
[01:48] <igie> does that matter?
[01:49] <ninggeng> daftykins: is ubuntu-desktop really a package?
[01:49] <EastDallas> igie: what ip address to you type in to access your router?
[01:49] <igie> 192.168.1.1
[01:49] <soopos> I have Apache running. What does it mean that I do not have the file  /var/run/httpd.pid?
[01:49] <daftykins> ninggeng: yeah it's a meta package that installs everything needed for the desktop. if i were you i'd run "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" first though
[01:49] <EastDallas> igie: ok, that's your gateway
[01:49] <igie> this machine i'm on now is .1.100
[01:49] <ninggeng> daftykins: just did sudo apt-get update and its running
[01:50] <EastDallas> igie: are all of the other machines over 100?
[01:50] <ninggeng> daftykins: cool
[01:50] <daftykins> ninggeng: cool :) right i must get to bed, almost 2am :) enjoy!
[01:50] <berrybarry> soopos #apache
[01:50] <daftykins> bye for now all o/
[01:50] <igie> EastDallas: let me check
[01:50] <EastDallas> igie: you can get the dns server ips by opening a terminal and typing: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[01:50] <ninggeng> bye
[01:50] <EastDallas> igie: forget what I said about finding the dns on your router's status page just use: cat /etc/resolv.conf
[01:51] <helluvaCSmajor> how do i make a user account with the proper priveliges?
[01:51] <igie> EastDallas: yes they are all above 100
[01:51] <EastDallas> igie, then you should be able to choose any number above 1 and below 100 for your static ips.  I use 10-20 for mine.
[01:52] <emanux> i just installed ekiga and how can configure to make local calls?
[01:52] <emanux>  and as replacement for IP Phone (hardware)
[01:52] <emanux>  thanks
[01:53] <igie> EastDallas: what should I put in DNS Servers: and Search Domains:  ??
[01:53] <gregb> helluvaCSmajor: desktop? If so, System->Administration->Users and Groups, then Add User, select  Profile: Administrator
[01:54] <TJLN> hi Does matter if im going to install ubuntu on primary or logical partition i mean should be ubuntu installed only on primary disk ?
[01:54] <helluvaCSmajor> i did that, but when i go to users and groups under the new user, they get an error that they do not have access
[01:55] <AyCarumba> Is there such thing as "themes" for terminal?
[01:55] <gregb> helluvaCSmajor: $ grep admin /etc/group and see whether the new user is listed.
[01:56] <skylar_> hey, I've tried installing skype from http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/choose/ but In the package installer i get a status message saying wrong architecture.
[01:56] <helluvaCSmajor> yes, that user is listed
[01:56] <skylar_> The download does say for hardy , not  karmic which I am using but does that make such a difference
[01:56] <Zenith88> how can I change console resolution? neither vga option seems to work.
[01:56] <gregb> helluvaCSmajor: OK, so what doesn't work?
[01:56] <helluvaCSmajor> users and groups gives an error
[01:57] <helluvaCSmajor> i am trying to reproduce the error, one sec
[01:58] <helluvaCSmajor> it says, you are not allowed to access the system configuration
[01:58] <AyCarumba> Is there such thing as themes for terminal to change the look of it?
[01:58] <gregb> helluvaCSmajor: This is logged in as the first user, or the newly setup one?
[01:58] <aarcane> so can I install the installer on a USB drive, and have it be usable as both a fully featured, updatable, with nvidia drivers, etc. install, but also retain the installer and it's full functionality ?
[01:59] <digitalaxis> Guys is there a better IM system than pidgin? it doesnt even add new buddies when i ask it too lol
[01:59] <helluvaCSmajor> the new user, the original user can access it just fine
[01:59] <helluvaCSmajor> the original must then unlock, but this error is before the window even shows up
[01:59] <timber> hi, can anyone tell me which ports should i open for use the webcam with aMSN?
[01:59] <Trota> digitalaxis: try emesene
[02:00] <gregb> helluvaCSmajor: no idea, but perhaps look at /etc/group carefully. Perhaps you need to add the new user to some of the groups.
[02:00] <helluvaCSmajor> the new user is in both groups listed
[02:01] <Kamokow> Computer janitor wants to remove "linux-headers-2.6.31-14" and "linux-headers-2.6.31-14-generic," why?
[02:01] <aarcane> helluvaCSmajor, have you tried chmod g=rw yet ?
[02:01] <timber> please, can anyone tell me which ports should i open for use the webcam with aMSN?
[02:01] <helluvaCSmajor> no
[02:01] <Zenith88> how can I change console resolution? neither vga option seems to work. vga=ask and any vga=0x... is 'deprecated'.
[02:01] <helluvaCSmajor> on any file?
[02:01] <aarcane> helluvaCSmajor, on whichever file you're having issues with.
[02:01] <bung> can someone link me to a better blu-ray guide then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[02:01] <helluvaCSmajor> not sure which file, it is the users and groups menu option in the system menu
[02:01] <bung> it doesnt explain bluray well at all
[02:01] <aarcane> helluvaCSmajor, if that works, then set your umask or umode accordingly.
[02:01] <gregb> helluvaCSmajor: Yes, but there are lots of groups in /etc/group. I'm listed in 16 groups.
[02:02] <gregb> helluvaCSmajor: perhaps the new user has to be a member of some obscure group.
[02:03] <helluvaCSmajor> mine just lists two
[02:04] <HaskellLove> lets say i install the SML compiler and i dont know where ubuntu put it... how to find where it is installed?
[02:04] <`mOOse`> anybody know what pgm I can use that will convert mp3's to CDA for cdrom use?
[02:04] <digitalaxis> I downloaded "amsn-0.98.1-1.tcl85.x86.package" but when i double click it it trys to open with gedit and fails, any ideas?
[02:04] <Trota> digitalaxis, try emesene
[02:05] <gregb> helluvaCSmajor: I'm in adm
[02:05] <gregb> dialout
[02:05] <gregb> fax
[02:05] <gregb> cdrom
[02:05] <gregb> tape
[02:05] <FloodBot3> gregb: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:05] <gregb> audio
[02:05] <Trota> $sudo aptitude search emesene
[02:05] <trism> HaskellLove: you can see all the files installed by any package with dpkg -L package_name
[02:05] <helluvaCSmajor> both users are in admin and lpadmin
[02:05] <tritium> Trota: sudo is not required for search
[02:06] <fractalis> I have a question which I'm not sure #ubuntu may be able to answer. Trying to setup DD-WRT and my local machine to allow outside ssh and http connections. Obviously, it works when connecting from localhost, but doesn't respond when I connect via my WAN IP. I've set up port forwarding in DD-WRT, don't believe I have a firewall in Linux running, and nothing in the log files stands out. Anyone have any advice on debugging the issue?
[02:06] <Trota> if its there , $sudo apitude install <name>
[02:06] <HaskellLove> trism dpkg -L stands for?
[02:06] <Trota> tritium, didnt know!
[02:06] <Trota> ll
[02:07] <tritium> fractalis: did you install openssh-server (or ssh) on the linux box you're trying to ssh to?
[02:07] <fractalis> tritium: Yes, I installed openssh-server via apt-get.
[02:07] <trism> HaskellLove: man dpkg
[02:07] <i_is_broke> HaskellLove, stands for debian packaging list.
[02:08] <HaskellLove> dpkg sml i do that and i get just options but...
[02:09] <AyCarumba> Is there such thing as themes for terminal to change the look of it?
[02:09] <Blue1> i am having a problem with the netbook remix dropping my wireless connection after a few minutes (5 or so) suggestions?
[02:09] <bigdavjoker> Need help booting from windows partition after copying it from bad hard drive Ubuntu boots fine but can't get windows to load after grub finds it
[02:09] <khelvan> Hi, is there any linux equivalent to chkdsk that can handle NTFS without causing data loss?
[02:09] <Blue1> khelvan: fsck?
[02:09] <Chewie[]> bigdavjoker: get a windows install disk, go into the repair console, use fixboot.
[02:10] <stanley_robertso> hi all
[02:10] <lockd> AyCarumba, some terminals have themes support
[02:10] <Chewie[]> bigdavjoker: er, my bad ... use bootcfg. use the /scan then /rebuild switches. if that doesn't work, do a fixboot /mbr, then reinstall grub.
[02:10] <lockd> AyCarumba, mainly they just change colors and background
[02:11] <bigdavjoker> Chewie[],  thanks
[02:11] <timber> which msn client have a nice integration with webcam?
[02:11] <Chewie[]> timber: amsn is closest, iirc
[02:11] <gregb> Where to find USB permissions docs?
[02:11] <Chewie[]> gregb: what exactly do you mean?
[02:11] <AyCarumba> lockd: web site?
[02:12] <gregb> Chewie[]: I have a USB device that I can access via sudo, but not as regular user.
[02:12] <centaur5> I know there is another open source project besides unattended that will manage network installs of windows from Linux. Could anybody tell me the name of it?
[02:12] <timber> Chewie[]: do you know which ports i have to open for the webcam works in a connection firewalled by a router?
[02:12] <Guest88667> 33194967
[02:13] <lockd> AyCarumba, oh, you're looking to find predefined color sets?
[02:13] <AyCarumba> lockd: Anything.
[02:13] <Chewie[]> question: i have two monitors (one large good one, one bad old one) and i have them twinview'd together with the nvidia driver. i have compiz running and when i use desktop wall or desktop cube, it switches both displays together. is there a way to disable desktops on the secondary monitor only? (i do not want it to be on a separate X server.)
[02:13] <lockd> AyCarumba, gnome-terminal, the default Ubuntu terminal, has theme support already
[02:14] <Chewie[]> timber: no. are you sending or receiving?
[02:14] <lockd> or used to
[02:14] <AyCarumba> lockd: How do I get it?
[02:14] <timber> Chewie[]: i'm trying to do both
[02:14] <Chewie[]> timber: and neither work with amsn? alternatively: what have you tried?
[02:15] <HaskellLove> isn't this same as foldr in Haskell, this is SML: reduce f b [i1, i2, i3] = f(i1, f(i2, f(i3, b)))
[02:15] <lockd> AyCarumba, get what? the terminal app? it's installed in Ubuntu (GNOME version) by default
[02:15] <timber> Chewie[]: i've tried make a video call, just send, just receive, no one worked
[02:15] <Zenith88> did anybody try setting console resolution to anything other than standard 640x480? how can I change console resolution? neither vga option seems to work.
[02:15] <donavan_> someone please help
[02:15] <EtherNet> hello everyone
[02:15] <EtherNet> has anyone tried Ubuntu on a Mac computer?
[02:15] <donavan_> can I get assistance]
[02:15] <Chewie[]> timber: with what client?
[02:16] <timber> Chewie[]: with amsn
[02:16] <Chewie[]> donavan_: what's up / what's your question?
[02:16] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Is there a linux tool for reading Windows Vista event logs?
[02:16] <Daifan> Zenith88: do you have a graphics card?
[02:16] <AyCarumba> lockd: No. How do I get other preset themes? where?
[02:16] <Alexandra> \join debian
[02:16] <donavan_> my firefox browser wont launch
[02:16] <Zenith88> Daifan: an extra one?
[02:17] <Chewie[]> timber: hmm =/  who is your isp? and do you have a complex home network or anything?
[02:17] <Daifan> Zenith88: no, is there one that is installed in your linux machine.
[02:17] <Chewie[]> donavan_: does it give an error message?
[02:17] <seizui> Okay, that didn't work.
[02:17] <alpha> Hi, I have installed 9.04 and updates on netbook How do I make usb to reload including updates
[02:17] <lockd> AyCarumba, just start with one that's close to what you want, and tweak it
[02:17] <donavan_> no errror msg and I have high speed internet
[02:17] <AyCarumba> lockd: n/m. I found it in preferences. I just thought there was downloadable theme that change effects and color of the terminal
[02:17] <seizui> Man, GRUB2 is a nightmare.
[02:18] <Zenith88> Daifan: of course, it's GF 6800. when I used Fedora and 2.6.32, I used 0x346 mode. but now under 9.10 the vga option always results in 'deprecated' error
[02:18] <seizui> Thought the one method would fix the problem... that's... a negative.
[02:18] <timber> Chewie[]: i don't know exactly, because i'm at my grandmother house, but the network is simple, there's only one router and my computer is the only one connected with it
[02:18] <Daifan> Zenith88: Have you installed the drivers?
[02:18] <gregb> Chewie:  I have a USB device that I can access via sudo, but not as regular user.
[02:18] <Chewie[]> donavan_: open a terminal (alt+f2 then type: gnome-terminal) and enter the command: pkill firefox
[02:18] <Alexandra> Hey folks, can someone tell me how to find out the disksize of a partition via uuid?
[02:18] <Alexandra> df -h /dev/disk/by-uuid/whatever
[02:19] <Alexandra> doesn't help
[02:19] <Zenith88> Daifan: hard to tell, I just did an almost complete install of Ubuntu, choosing mostly default packages.
[02:19] <mesula1> Ubuntu freezes up and becomes very sluggish for several seconds whenever my Wi-Fi connection drops.
[02:19] <Chewie[]> timber: hmm. i'm not too sure then. i have usually had it "just work" for the 1-2 times i have used webcams with amsn.
[02:19] <winmutt> i have a software raid 1 thats not coming up. showing md_d0 : inactive sdc[1](S) what does this mean
[02:19] <Zenith88> Daifan: the X have NV driver installed
[02:19] <mgolisch> Alexandra: is that filesystem mounted? i think df only works for mounted filesystems
[02:20] <timber> Chewie[]: ok, thanks for the help
[02:20] <Alexandra> Hi mgolisch: yes it is mounted
[02:20] <Daifan> Zenith88: You're using ubuntu desktop? There should be something in the System menu that will install drivers for you.
[02:21] <Chewie[]> gregb: how do you access it?
[02:21] <Zenith88> Daifan: Using Ubuntu Studio. Which driver should I install?
[02:21] <rendy> Hi. I want to Boot ubuntu straight into command line without GUI. Is it possible?
[02:22] <Daifan> Zenith88: Follow this tutorial right here. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nvidia
[02:22] <Daifan> rendy: uninstall X
[02:22] <Chewie[]> rendy: would installing debian without X do the job?
[02:22] <xett> Rendy - yes, you have to stop X from starting. You can disable it while it is still installed
[02:23] <gregb> Chewie[]: I can lsusb and see device listed, but lsusb -s -v gives error: cannot read device status, Operation not permitted (1). If I repeat with sudo lsusb -s -v, it works.
[02:23] <mgolisch> Alexandra: what does it say? works well for me
[02:23] <Zenith88> Daifan: Nvidia 185 driver is installed and in use
[02:24] <mgolisch> Alexandra: you may need to execute df as root
[02:25] <mgolisch> Alexandra: like using sudo
[02:25] <eric_2> hello?
[02:25] <Daifan> Zenith88: Did you run nvidia x server settings?
[02:25] <Zenith88> Daifan: how's X server relevant?
[02:26] <Chewie[]> gregb: does it drop a file in /dev? can you add yourself to that file's group?
[02:26] <Daifan> Zenith88: What are you trying to expand? The console windows?
[02:26] <Chewie[]> gregb: if that is of no help, i'm afraid i can not be of help.
[02:26] <Zenith88> Daifan: I want to change text console resolution
[02:27] <eric_2> I am running an XFCE environment w/ Xubuntu on a 800mhz processor w/ 512 mb ram and i was wondering if there was any way to accelerate my computer.
[02:27] <Daifan> Zenith88: Ahh, I didn't understand your question then. Sorry mate.
[02:27] <Chewie[]> eric_2: more RAM.
[02:27] <gregb> Chewie[]: Well thanks anyway. I'm confused about /dev/usb vs /proc/bus/usb (running 9.10 desktop x86 32 bit)
[02:27] <Zenith88> Daifan: not a problem
[02:28] <Chewie[]> question: i have two monitors (one large good one, one bad old one) and i have them twinview'd together with the nvidia driver. i have compiz running and when i use desktop wall or desktop cube, it switches both displays together. is there a way to disable desktops on the secondary monitor only? (i do not want it to be on a separate X server.)
[02:28] <eric_2> Chewie[] 512 is the max this motherboard on this laptop can handle
[02:28] <i_is_broke> eric_2, try using a lighter wm like lxde or so.
[02:29] <eric_2> i_is_broke what is lxde?
[02:29] <soreau> Chewie[]: It's not possible without a separate X session
[02:29] <Chewie[]> eric_2: where are you noticing the largest slowdown? you may want to try finding a better hard drive (particularly if this is a 14th-hand well-used unit)
[02:29] <Daifan> Zenith88: You can edit /boot/grub/menu.lst file to your specification if you want to change console size.
[02:30] <Chewie[]> soreau: alrighty, thanks.
[02:30] <Chewie[]> Daifan: is that "the way" with GRUB2?
[02:30] <Zenith88> Daifan: I know, that's what I tried. But the kernel throws an error for every vga option I tried, including the modes listed by vbeinfo
[02:30] <eric_2> the hard drive is about 10gb and was made in 2002. The largest slowdown is with boot up and graphics
[02:31] <eric_2> Chewie[] the hard drive is about 10gb and was made in 2002. The largest slowdown is with boot up and graphics
[02:31] <Daifan> Zenith88: Did you update grub after changing the settings?
[02:31] <eric_2> Chewie[] graphics card is on board a laptop and i cant change it.
[02:31] <Zenith88> Daifan: :) Of course, that's how I got the errors
[02:32] <Scott__> eric2
[02:32] <Scott__> if u feal u are bottle necking on data transfer try installing linux on a thumb drive flas
[02:32] <eric_2> scott2 ya
[02:32]  * ZachK_ is here and ready to assist those in need
[02:32] <Chewie[]> eric_2: hmm. you can probably disable some services but i do not know which are safe to disable.
[02:32] <Scott__> yeah flash drive is much faster the hard drive twice if not 3 times the speed
[02:32] <Scott__> but storage size is costly
[02:33] <ZachK_> Scott__: agreed
[02:33] <Scott__> 128gb is like 250 dollars australian
[02:33] <eric_2> usb 1.0 is the problem though
[02:33] <Chewie[]> Scott__: not worth sinking that into an old unit.
[02:33] <Scott__> were we can get 1tb sata for like 80 dollars
[02:33] <ZachK_> Scott__: you need the space but if you can actually manage to get it on a flash drive it's pretty fast
[02:33] <Scott__> that was my first answer in private chat to eric2 buy a new system
[02:33] <Chewie[]> eric_2: http://www.menuetos.net/
[02:34] <eric_2> scott2 I do agree w/ that but this computer only has usb 1.0 and i think that is slower than on board hdd connection
[02:34] <Scott__> just because smaller version of programs look like they boot faster doenst mean they are faster
[02:34] <brrant> oh ubuntu guru's, I'm new to ubuntu but not linux, can someone tell me how to disable (not remove) x upon startup? I have a laptop with only 256mb ram and console is all I need 99% of the time
[02:35] <Chewie[]> eric_2: depending on your application menuetos or another tiny OS may work. and you are almost certainly correct that USB 1.0 will be slower.
[02:35] <Scott__> it just means your system can handle it easyer
[02:35] <evon> can anyone help me setup my ati radeon xpress 200m video card in jaunty please
[02:35] <eric_2> Thankyou for your help
[02:36] <Chewie[]> brrant: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2006-July/087620.html
[02:36] <evon> can anyone help me setup my ati radeon xpress 200m video card in jaunty please
[02:37] <Frijolie> how do you restart udev?
[02:37] <Chewie[]> evon: what have you tried?
[02:37] <ZachK_> !patience | evon
[02:37] <_myelin_> brrant, http://www.overclockers.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-531080.html
[02:38] <Blue1> my acer netbook is dropping the wireless connect after about 5 minutes can anyone help?
[02:38] <dsnyders> Hi all!  I want to run vista on a virtual machine in linux.  What's the best way?
[02:38] <evon> Frijolie: tried the open source drivers, and deleting the xorg.conf file then rebooting
[02:38] <zomGreg_> virtualbox
[02:38] <Izinucs> dsnyders: use virtualbox
[02:38] <evon> Frijolie: the latter option worked somewhat but the performance was crap
[02:38] <Frijolie> evon, huh?
[02:39] <Zelest> I'll ask here as well then, How can I delete/remove a guest that's been created using virt-install? .. I've tried virsh -c qemu:///system destroy <guest> .. but all it does is shutting it down more aggressively, it doesn't remove the actual guest system.
[02:39] <evon> Frijolie: i did this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1308964
[02:39] <rubin110> Hi, there there a way to do a net install of Ubuntu with a USB thumb drive?
[02:39] <dsnyders> Izinucs, zomGreg_ , virtualbox... thanks for the pointers
[02:39] <evon> Frijolie: and this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver
[02:39] <crypt-0> Frijolie, what version of Ubuntu are you running? Frijolie for 9.10 : sudo restart udev for under 9.10 sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart
[02:40] <Izinucs> dsnyders: there's a version in the repos but it doesn't support usb.. and it's older.. use the one off their site.
[02:40] <Chewie[]> night gents.
[02:40] <crypt-0> Frijolie, IIRC sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart will work on all stable versions of Ubuntu
[02:40] <ZachK_> rubin110: yes
[02:40] <Zelest> Ah, nvm, solved it.. use "undefine" instead of "destroy" ;)
[02:40] <crypt-0> Frijolie, IIRC sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart will work on all stable versions of Ubuntu
[02:41] <dsnyders> Izinucs, thanks.
[02:41] <brrant> _myelin_ thank you :)
[02:41] <ZachK_> rubin110: you want to install Ubuntu onto a system via a usb drive?
[02:41] <rubin110> ZachK_: Is there a wiki page somewhere on how to do this under ubuntu?
[02:41] <Blue1> ls
[02:41] <ZachK_> rubin110: are you currently using a windows system?
[02:41] <rubin110> ZachK_: I want to boot up a machine with a USB thumb drive, have it format the drive, then grab what packages it needs from the repo.
[02:42] <rubin110> ZachK_: The drive is empty.
[02:42] <ZachK_> rubin110: so you want to put the necessary Ubuntu files onto the drive so you can then boot from it?
[02:42] <evon> Frijolie: any thoughts?
[02:43] <rubin110> Yes, but I don't feel like downloading the whole install iso.
[02:43] <LGN> I'm new, and I will try to help peeps any way i can
[02:43] <ZachK_> rubin110: downloading the ISO is the safest way to ensure the proper setup
[02:43] <ZachK_> rubin110: trust me
[02:43] <LGN> use bit torrent to DL the iso
[02:44] <rubin110> ZachK_: That's great, is there a way to do a net install with ubuntu?
[02:44] <rubin110> If not then I'm just going to this under Debian.
[02:44] <LGN> via ubuntu or via windows?
[02:44] <ZachK_> rubin110: net install? elaborate please
[02:44] <rubin110> So you have a tiny image.
[02:44] <jtaji> !minimal | rubin110
[02:44] <rubin110> jtaji: Yes, that's what I want.
[02:44] <rubin110> jtaji: Thanks.
[02:45] <LGN> so DL that and you're good 2 go
[02:45] <dsnyders> rubin110, check http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[02:45] <eric_2> so i tried to make a boot disk for nubuntu and had an error. i was using the create a usb boot disk utility
[02:46] <LGN> Ican help people with questions, so keep em coming
[02:47] <eric_2> help?
[02:47] <eric_2> LNG so i tried to make a boot disk for nubuntu and had an error =. i was using the create a usb boot disk utility
[02:47] <LGN> i tried to make a live USB today aswell
[02:47] <evon> Frijolie: no thoughts?
[02:47] <LGN> i couldnn't get it to boot in my Acer Aspire Desktop
[02:47] <eric_2> LNG can you help
[02:47] <LGN> its LGN
[02:48] <eric_2> sorry
[02:48] <LGN> whats your error
[02:48] <dsnyders> rubin110, there may be some  stuff here: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/boot-iso-from-usb-flash-drive/
[02:48] <ipatrol> night all
[02:48] <LGN> i could use that aswell (copys into chrome)
[02:48] <dfeuer> Does a distribution upgrade upgrade files that have been manually edited?
[02:48] <Barridus> i'm not too comfortable fstab editing, is there a program that can add a ntfs (xp) partition to automount?
[02:49] <rubin110> dsnyders: Why would I want pendrivelinux?
[02:49] <eric_2> dsnyders: thats the website i used but got an error
[02:49] <rubin110> Are you saying I should install Ubuntu from a live session?
[02:49] <LGN> worth a shot
[02:49] <dsnyders> rubin110, You wanted to install from a flash drive, didn't you?
[02:49] <rubin110> dsnyders: No.
[02:50] <LGN> do u want to use the flash drive to USE ubuntu or INSTALL ubuntu?
[02:50] <rubin110> I wanted a tiny image to boot off of that'll partition/format the drive and setup a network interface, then have the installer grab the rest of the wanted packages from the repo.
[02:50] <eric_2> LGN: no i want to use it as a live usb
[02:50] <phantomsv> trying to run xmbc windowed, anyone knows?
[02:50] <LGN> To USE or INSTALL ubuntu
[02:52] <LGN> srry, i dont use XMBC
[02:52] <phantomsv> to use
[02:52] <phantomsv> or any program in ubuntu
[02:52] <LGN> i can look it up though
[02:52] <phantomsv> the program runs in fullscreen automatically and doesnt let you minimize it.
[02:53] <eNVy`> heyias, looking at the /etc/apt/sources.list config file i notice that the karmic-security mirror was set to use security.ubuntu.com rather than au.archive.ubuntu.com (ie, a local mirror) - is there any particular reason for this?
[02:53] <eric_2> someone i am trying to create a live usb w/ ubuntu 9.10 the live usb was supposed to contain a distro of nubuntu 2gb flash drive
[02:53] <LGN> you could change sekstops to use another app
[02:53] <LGN> desktops not sekstops
[02:54] <LGN> thats what i do
[02:54] <bung> can someone link me to a better blu-ray guide then https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[02:54] <phantomsv> i cant do it with this program
[02:54] <bung> it does not explain blu ray well
[02:54] <bung> any bluray users?
[02:54] <eric_2> hello?
[02:54] <LGN> weird
[02:55] <LGN> use a keyboard shortcut to change desktops?
[02:55] <rootlinuxusr> how do i find my hostname?
[02:56] <LGN> I'm just saying here, but everybody here should use Chrome for Linux
[02:56] <Darkchylde> rootlinuxusr: cat /etc/hostname
[02:56] <cactusfrog> hi
[02:56] <zomGreg_> keyboard shortcut to change desktop is ctrl-alt left/right arrow key
[02:56] <zomGreg_> in gnome
[02:56] <LGN> thats what it is in compiz fusion too
[02:56] <LGN> at least in my setup
[02:57] <sebsebseb> LGN: no since Firefox is still good, and has most of the market share after you know, that pretty bad popular browser that comes in Windows
[02:58] <epalm> the acer revo nettop, should i be looking at ubuntu netbook remix, or the full desktop install?
[02:58] <LGN> sebsebseb:but chrome is FAST, and yes, I hate that browser that came out of redmond aswell
[02:58] <cactusfrog> firefox has addblock
[02:58] <sebsebseb> LGN: also Chrome right, but there's Chromeium as the open source version :)  which Chrome is actsualley based on
[02:58] <LGN> its an extention of chrome aswell
[02:59] <ablyss> chrome has a nice developer ui, but the web browser is still a bit buggy
[02:59] <sebsebseb> !ot
[02:59] <cactusfrog> i need to transfer some data from one hd to another so i installed ubuntu (installed inside windows) on the hd i had the data i wanted to transfer. Ubuntu is reconizing the other hd but not the one ubuntu is installed on how do i get it to reconize it?
[03:00] <eric_2> Client Quit
[03:00] <eric_2> hello?
[03:00] <LGN> a bit buggy, but i have a gmail indicator, and a wave notifier, and google reader, right in chrome thanks to extentions (available in Linux version and BETA windows version)
[03:00] <sebsebseb> !ot | LGN
[03:00] <LGN> hmmm
[03:01] <cactusfrog> hello?
[03:01] <LGN> when u say inside windows, what do you mean
[03:01] <fuzzy_> anyone have any experience with ubuntu netbook remix and ubuntu moblin remix?
[03:01] <cactusfrog> i have windows xp on one hd and windows 7 on the other
[03:01] <cactusfrog> xp has the data i want
[03:01] <LGN> no, but netbook remix looks awesome
[03:01] <cactusfrog> to transfer to the windows 7 one
[03:01] <Blue1> my wireless connection drops after 5 minutes and I can't re-enable it -- suggestions?
[03:02] <LGN> ok
[03:02] <LGN> so can't you use Dropbox to put ur data up and move it down (or sync it)
[03:03] <dfeuer> Still trying to figure out how the dist upgrade process works.  Does it preserve edited config files like the normal package upgrade, or upgrade those?
[03:03] <n8tuser> !clone | dfeuer
[03:04] <dfeuer> n8tuser, I was referring to files in /etc, et al.
[03:05] <dfeuer> I would prefer /not/ to preserve edits, because the reasons for some/most/all of those edits have gone away with distribution changes,
[03:05] <dfeuer> and I don't think I can find all the specific files I edited.
[03:05] <zjblabs> in what repo would it be possible to find Jesus? I've looked around but I seem to be unable to find it.
[03:06] <zjblabs> apt-get jesus-christ seems to fail
[03:06] <Johnny_buffalo> problems with dvd mounting: Insert DVD and it doesn't auto mount, plus it doesn't eject cd tray....
[03:06] <Scott__> can anyone give me a rason to actually use test drive and test the lucid
[03:06] <sebsebseb> !troll | zjblabs
[03:06] <zjblabs> sebsebseb: :D
[03:06] <hERO> How can I hide my IP Adress on this freenode.net server?
[03:07] <jtaji> hERO: go to #freenode and ask for a cloak
[03:08] <dfeuer> n8tuser, are you able to answer the question I was actually trying to ask?
[03:08] <Scott__> johonny_buffalos question is not relevant
[03:08] <dsnyders> Hi all!  Is there a linux tool for reading vista event files?
[03:08] <Johnny_buffalo> shhh
[03:09] <Johnny_buffalo> i need help unmounting my drive
[03:09] <iceroot> Johnny_buffalo: sudo umount "destination"
[03:09] <n8tuser> dfeuer-> not to the minute details,
[03:09] <jtaji> dfeuer: during upgrade, you will be asked whether you want to keep your version, or install the package maintainers version, (or inspect the differences)
[03:09] <shashike> hello  all!!!!
[03:10] <dfeuer> jtaji, thank you much.  That sounds ideal, but I couldn't find docs saying so.
[03:10] <shashike> i  just  installed  AVG  and  now  i  cant  find  out  where  it  is!!!
[03:10] <shashike> can  some  one  kindly  help  me??
[03:10] <dfeuer> shashike, check the file list?
[03:10] <n8tuser> dfeuer-> btw, you will find that doing a dist upgrade is problematic,  preferable to do a fresh install
[03:10] <dfeuer> Oh?  dist upgrades tend to fail?
[03:10] <Scott__> shashike why are u installing avg
[03:11] <shashike> cozz  i  am  paranoid  of  viruses!!
[03:11] <lstarnes> shashike: you appear to be using two spaces instead of one
[03:11] <Scott__> and avclam is better
[03:11] <dfeuer> Maybe he's running an email server?
[03:11] <shashike> no
[03:11] <shashike> no
[03:11] <dfeuer> Maybe she's running an email server?
[03:11] <Scott__> even if u ran an email server u dont run avg
[03:11] <n8tuser> dfeuer-> its problematic, people complain of things not working correctly after a dist upgrade, but a fresh install is much easier
[03:11] <shashike> i am not , but i came from windows u know
[03:11] <lstarnes> shashike: there are no major viruses that affect linux
[03:11] <jtaji> dfeuer: I don't find upgrades problematic at all, sure there are always regressions
[03:11] <turkeyshoot> if i have a partition with ubuntu on it, and i just want to boot into it once more, can i use a ubuntu live cd to do that?
[03:12] <jtaji> and if you hang in here you will see fails from every upgrade, but mostly it works
[03:12] <shashike> well i know windows viruses dont work on ubuntu
[03:12] <lstarnes> shashike: there are rootkits, but those are rarer than viruses are on windows and much easier to detect and stop.  There are tools such as chkrootkit and rkhunter for detecting rootkits
[03:12] <iceroot> shashike: there are no viruses so dont need a scanner. just need a scanner if using mail-server for windows-client
[03:12] <jtaji> shashike: then you are wasting your time with a windows virus scanner in linux
[03:12] <dfeuer> You will see fails from every upgrade?  You mean the standard dependency failures?
[03:12] <Voss> shash, that would be pretty amazing if one did ;-)
[03:12] <ZenGuy3111> is there a gui like program to edit the hosts file ...i edited mine on windows using hostsman(i came with several hosts files and updates)
[03:13] <Scott__> exactly linux scans windows for virus
[03:13] <shashike> but i have windows 7 and mac OSX on my mac
[03:13] <jtaji> dfeuer: no I mean when you look at the thousands of people that come through here, there will be a few with problems
[03:13] <iceroot> shashike: for linux you dont need a scanner
[03:13] <DaZ> there aren't any anyway
[03:13] <DaZ> <:
[03:13] <shashike> is 64bit ubuntu better than 32bit??
[03:14] <lstarnes> shashike: it's about equal
[03:14] <DaZ> shashike: yes and no
[03:14] <iceroot> shashike: if you are using 4gb ram and more, yes
[03:14] <whileimhere> hi. I recently removed a bunch of apps that as it turns out I never ever use. Do I need to do a manual purge of the hidden folders or is there some way that synaptic or aptitude can do this as well?
[03:14] <Scott__> u run windows 64 bit is 4 64bit cpus and larger ram capacity
[03:14] <shashike> i have 4gigs of ram
[03:14] <Scott__> then u need to run 64bit
[03:14] <dfeuer> whileimhere, what is a hidden folder?
[03:14] <iceroot> shashike: then use 64bit version
[03:14] <shashike> what about compatibility>>
[03:14] <DaZ> dfeuer: ~/.something
[03:14] <iceroot> shashike: called amd64, even if using intel
[03:14] <dfeuer> Oh, those aren't hidden...
[03:15] <whileimhere> dfeuer any folder that has a . in front of it I guess.
[03:15] <DaZ> yes they are [;
[03:15] <Scott__> shashike u sound like a real noob
[03:15] <dfeuer> And yes, whileimhere, I think you probably do have to scrap them manually if you want to.
[03:15] <iceroot> !noob | Scott__
[03:15] <shashike> i am actually!!!
[03:15] <kazagistar> shashike: if you only install and run software from the repositories, you are cryptographically assured that you are only executing code that Canonical has looked over and verified, and worms just don't work
[03:15] <DaZ> jfgi? >:
[03:15] <brianherman> Does any one have any experience setting up a wireless router using ubuntu
[03:15] <DaZ> ah
[03:15] <jtaji> whileimhere: you could, it won't hurt to leave them either
[03:15] <shashike> i am new to ubuntu, well not exactly, i have been using it for the last 2 months
[03:15] <lstarnes> brianherman: it depends on the router
[03:16] <iceroot> shashike: normally there are no different with 64bit and 32bit, expecting flash
[03:16] <dfeuer> I could be wrong, whileimhere, but for an admin to delete users' config files would be rather irresponsible, and such behavior is /presumably/ not specially supported by synaptic.
[03:16] <brianherman> lstarns:nver mind should of asked google first
[03:16] <jtaji> dfeuer: that's definitely correct
[03:16] <Scott__> im new to ubuntu also and ive mbeen using it for over 12 years
[03:17] <iceroot> Scott__: ubuntu is ~4 years old
[03:17] <dsnyders> Izinucs, There is a windows host for virtualbox as well as a linux box.  Can I run the same virtual machine file in either?
[03:17] <Typh> hmmm, how can I launch ubuntu software centre from terminal?
[03:17] <kazagistar> shashike: the only time there are compatibility challenges with 64bit are flash and a very few rare programs... that said, performance gains are not that great for 64bit, overall
[03:17] <DaZ> iceroot: i think he meant linux :f
[03:17] <Scott__> brianherman has some brains use google instead
[03:17] <shashike> is 32bit more stable than 64bit??
[03:17] <Typh> Actually, scratch that. How can I INSTALL ubuntu software center
[03:17] <iceroot> DaZ: maybe :)
[03:17] <iceroot> shashike: both are stable
[03:17] <DaZ> or at least it's the only way it makes any sense
[03:17] <jtaji> Typh: software-center &
[03:17] <iceroot> shashike: no differences
[03:17] <shashike> pls pardon me if i am asking stupid questions, coz i am new to ubuntu
[03:18] <iceroot> shashike: no worry about that
[03:18] <jtaji> Typh: run it from the terminal, and it will tell you how to install it if it's not already
[03:18] <iceroot> shashike: for that there is this support-channel
[03:18] <Roasted> what's a good video editor for *buntu?
[03:18] <Typh> jtaji: Yeah answered my own question on that one and confirmed jolicloud doesn't seem to have it
[03:18] <Scott__> shashike unless u are running like the latest specs system why even ask as if u have 4 gb ram anywys
[03:18] <kazagistar> Roasted: define good
[03:18] <Typh> jtaji: I'm just getting command not found
[03:18] <Roasted> kazagistar - something that doestn suck.
[03:19] <zomGreg_> lol
[03:19] <iceroot> Typh: if you are on cli, you dont want to use ubuntu software center, you want to use apt-get
[03:19] <jtaji> Typh: I guess you don't have command-not-found installed, the package is also named software-center
[03:19] <Roasted> Im on kdenlive now, but it wont fade out my pictures despite me having the setting set for fade out. Okay. Fail. Now I need a new program that does the job.
[03:19] <Typh> jtaji: Yeah, no package either.
[03:19] <llua> anyone know of a google gadget that cycles thru MY pictures and not some random site
[03:20] <Typh> iceroot: that's what I'm using, but what's the reason for not being able to use USC?
[03:20] <Younder> Roasted, can't you just fix the program?
[03:20] <Guest87910> why guest?
[03:20] <iceroot> Typh: guis are slow, useless and not cool
[03:20] <Scott__> shashike do a sudo cat /proc/meminfo in terminal and let us now the outcome
[03:20] <Roasted> younder - it'd help if I knew how to make it fade out my pictures?? But I dont. So - no. I can't.
[03:20] <iceroot> Typh: apt-get is so much faster then clicking with the mouse
[03:20] <Roasted> video editor application, anybody? Any good ones?
[03:20] <dfeuer> Should I exit major apps before doing a dist upgrade?
[03:21] <DaZ> Roasted: it's linux
[03:21] <EastDallas> typh 'sudo apt-get install software-center'
[03:21] <dsnyders> Typh, It's also easier to explain on a chat.
[03:21] <kazagistar> iceroot: dunno, they are useful for quickly making choices in unfamiliar situations, and can look and function rather cool
[03:21] <Roasted> daz - yes. thank you for that. But Im already on linux. Im looking for a video editing program.
[03:21] <iceroot> kazagistar: maybe but not always
[03:21] <DaZ> Roasted: it's like looking for penguins in africa
[03:21] <Younder> Roasted, well you have a alpha channed and Cairo can set the opaquety. Start with a solic fill and full transparency and pradually set it to full opaquity.
[03:21] <DaZ> i wish you luck tho [;
[03:22] <Younder> gradually
[03:22] <Roasted> daz - I always hear great things about the video and audio editors in linux. So far, the audio side is true. Now Im playing with the video side.
[03:22] <kazagistar> iceroot: for example, apt-get is a lot slower if you have never used it before, or just want to browse some category of software for things you might like
[03:22] <dsnyders> Roasted, have you tried cinelerra?
[03:22] <shashike> does ubuntu slow down over time??
[03:22] <Roasted> dsnyders - I have not. Is it in the repos?
[03:22] <LizardK|ng> apt-get is never slower
[03:22] <DaZ> shashike: no
[03:22] <Roasted> shashike - not in my experience.
[03:22] <dsnyders> Roasted, not sure.  I think it is.
[03:22] <Roasted> shashike - *buntu user (Kubuntu and Ubuntu both) of 5 years here.
[03:23] <DaZ> shashike: windows gets slower because of the registry and we don't have it.
[03:23] <uvacav> join #zsnes
[03:23] <uvacav> sah, sry
[03:23] <LizardK|ng> no, but we have gconf
[03:23] <iceroot> kazagistar: no
[03:23] <DaZ> LizardK|ng: i don't.
[03:23] <iceroot> kazagistar: apt-get is not slower then gui
[03:23] <shashike> its like this, once i left my macbook on the whole night and the next day it was lagging like hell, but after a reboot it was fine, is that normal?
[03:23] <kcj1993> Quick question: Can I use remote desktop while the other machine I want to connect to is in use?
[03:23] <dfeuer> shashike, it depends on how well you load down your RAM.  I tend to let Firefox balloon to 60-160 open tabs, including Flash video, so if I let that go long enough, things can get bad enough after a couple months that I need a reboot.
[03:23] <lstarnes> kazagistar: in fact, it might be faster
[03:24] <LizardK|ng> DaZ, ok, gnome has gconf
[03:24] <iceroot> kazagistar: both must use something like update but the gui is doing that at the background you dont see it
[03:24] <zomGreg_> 60-160 open tabs?
[03:24] <DaZ> shashike: it's not
[03:24] <dfeuer> zomGreg_, yes.
[03:24] <holmser> anyone here used an x10 controller on ubuntu before?
[03:24] <dfeuer> I am very cluttered.
[03:24] <LizardK|ng> dfeuer, restarting firefox doesn;t work?
[03:24] <zomGreg_> jeebus that's a lot of tabs
[03:24] <shashike> omfg
[03:24] <kcj1993> hello?
[03:24] <dfeuer> LizardK|ng, usually it does, but I think the last time it must've fragmented my swap too badly, or /something/.  Dunno.
[03:25] <gimpy5301> How can you stand that many open tabs?  I need multiple browsers
[03:25] <Younder> a full disk will lead to performance degradation
[03:25] <lstarnes> kcj1993: we see your question.  Please ba patient while somebody tries to dsicover an answer
[03:25] <dsnyders> kcj1993, It depends on the connection.  if you're piping X through ssh, yes.  If you're using VNC to duplicate the desktop remotely, no.
[03:25] <lstarnes> *discover
[03:25] <Younder> why not just get a bigger disk?
[03:25] <kcj1993> thx
[03:26] <Ali_nz> My Ubuntu system would not boot because of no free disk space, so I booted a live CD and deleted one file of no great importance. Now I get a black screen and flashing cursor after the ubuntu logo - help please!
[03:26] <dfeuer> My Firefox is currently using a mere 439 MiB of RAM.
[03:26] <zomGreg_> Ali: what was the file "of no importance"?
[03:26] <dfeuer> But it can easily exceed a gigabyte.
[03:26] <Scott__> shashike it is amazing what pron will do if u leave it on over night
[03:26] <Ali_nz> zomGreg_: a backup of a old hard disk
[03:26] <Scott__> porn
[03:26] <AyCarumba> I need help with wine, I'm trying to run mirc.exe but I get a error that is oblivious to the purpose of the .exe file. http://pastebin.com/m48c191d1
[03:26] <Ali_nz> zomGreg_: a *.bin file
[03:27] <Ali_nz> zomGreg_: it was like 200Gb and taking up some considerable room
[03:27] <DaZ> 200gb bin file? :o
[03:27] <Ali_nz> or .raw? it was a ddrescue file
[03:27] <Scott__> try wine installations under windows 98 setting
[03:28] <Ali_nz> but haveing just typed that it finally sprung into life....maybe it was re indexing the FS or soemthing?
[03:28] <kcj1993> dsnyders: I get this error message when trying to connect to the other machine "Avahi resolver failure: Timeout reached" what does that mean?
[03:28] <dfeuer> Ali_nz, it's quite possible that you hosed something by letting the disk fill.
[03:29] <gimpy5301> Would anyone know why one of my machines can't use key based auth when SSHing to itself, but key based auth to other machines works fine?
[03:29] <dsnyders> kcj1993, No idea.  Can you ping the other machine?
[03:29] <kazagistar> AyCarumba: try "Open with..." and then select Wine manually
[03:29] <Scott__> AyCarumba use windows 98 settings in wine config
[03:29] <Scott__> are u using wine tricks
[03:29] <Scott__> wine doors
[03:29] <dfeuer> The first time I had root on a Unix box I managed to lose the /password/ file by filling the disk and editing /etc/passwd improperly.
[03:29] <jtaji> gimpy5301: is your public key in that same machine's authorized_keys file?
[03:30] <jtaji> gimpy5301: because that's typically not done
[03:30] <kcj1993> dsnyders: yes i can
[03:30] <gimpy5301> jtaji: Yes, authorized_keys is correct on the machine for the user
[03:30] <dsnyders> kcj1993, It could mean that the server process is not running on the remote machine.
[03:31] <gimpy5301> tjaji: and permissions are correct on .ssh and that file
[03:31] <Scott__> where is the serious chat room with serious people that can seriously help
[03:31] <kazagistar> Scott__: mailing lists?
[03:32] <lstarnes> Scott__: this is it
[03:32] <Scott__> are u being serious
[03:32] <Scott__> i get more help in linuxcranks then here
[03:32] <lstarnes> Scott__: yes
[03:32] <kcj1993> dsnyders: I tried to connect once but it failed and now i just get that error if i try to.
[03:32] <dsnyders> Scott__, He's joking.  All the serious folk are in #fedora.
[03:32] <DaZ> Scott__: usenet.
[03:32] <Scott__> do u find u get or give help
[03:33] <Scott__> and when u give help do they saqy your wrong or thats not relevant
[03:33] <DaZ> irc is still to young [;
[03:33] <ctmjr> Scott__: we are sorry that we do not meet your 12 years of ubuntu experience
[03:33] <lstarnes> Scott__: that's not usually the case
[03:33] <dsnyders> Scott__, What problem are you having.
[03:34] <Vbitz> why is the install slideshow always finishing before 50%
[03:34] <Some_Person> I've got sound issues. VLC recording my audio input is very choppy. Several games (supertux, supertuxkart, etc) have sound that goes into buzzing
[03:34] <mezquitale> Some_Person, sounds like you have pulse audio issues
[03:34] <dsnyders> kcj1993, I'm unable to help.  I've only done remote stuff once, using VNC. and I followed a howto to do it.  That was over a year ago.
[03:35] <kcj1993> ok thanks
[03:35] <Some_Person> mezquitale: So what can I do about it? PulseAudio is too tightly integrated in Karmic to get rid of it (I'd have no panel control)
[03:35] <mezquitale> Some_Person, is your machine fast? what cpu do you have?
[03:36] <Some_Person> mezquitale: Core 2 Duo, 2.0 GHz
[03:36] <evon> can anyone help me access the files on my other ubuntu computer through my network?
[03:36] <KB1JWQ> evon: Sure, over what protocol?
[03:36] <DaZ> Some_Person: alsamixer is sufficient [;
[03:36] <thomasdeaton> ..
[03:36] <mezquitale> evon, install openssh server in the machine that has the files
[03:36] <jarray52> Anyone here have experience setting up ejabberd?
[03:36] <lovestik> wooo
[03:37] <Ali_nz> when the output of du --max-depth\=1 -h says I have "273G     ." what dir is "." ?
[03:37] <Some_Person> DaZ: I like using multimedia keys
[03:37] <evon> KB1JWQ: i don't even know what you're talking about?
[03:37] <lstarnes> Ali_nz: the current directory
[03:37] <gimpy5301> ali_nz: The current dir
[03:37] <jtaji> evon: I'd just install openssh-server on both machines so I can go both ways
[03:37] <kazagistar> Vbitz: because if it finished after the install was done, there would be wasted slides
[03:37] <Ali_nz> lstarnes: ta
[03:37] <plattypus1> KB1JWQ: 73 de AE6YD :)
[03:37] <mezquitale> Some_Person, your machine is fast enough, try the forums if no one is able to help you here, I personally uninstalled pulse audio in my laptop and sound now works fine
[03:37] <DaZ> Ali_nz: local
[03:38] <Some_Person> mezquitale: Do you have a volume control in your panel and do your volume keyboard keys work?
[03:38] <aviarorman78> i installed ubuntu 9.10 and cant get my dvd rom to work HELP.
[03:38] <DaZ> Some_Person: i don't think it's hard to have them working without pulseaudio
[03:38] <rj1> Hi guys, I place a DVD in the disk drive and it spins up but I dont see the image mounted
[03:38] <Scott__> my multi media keys work
[03:38] <rj1> any thoughts?
[03:38] <jtaji> evon: once you install that, you can either use scp or sftp on the command line, or go to Places > Connect to Server.. and pick SSH to use the file manager
[03:38] <mezquitale> Some_Person, i had to do a litte tweaking to get it working, the volume keys on my laptop dont work, I installed gnome-alsamiser
[03:39] <Vbitz> no i meen that it needs to be based on current progress
[03:39] <soopos> What is SELinux -mode in Ubuntu?
[03:39] <kazagistar> aviarorman78: what exactly does not work?
[03:39] <DaZ> soopos: it's NSA mode <:
[03:40] <aviarorman78> i tried to play a movie its a no go
[03:40] <soopos> DaZ: strace -ff shows me that my programs point to a SELinux filesystem in my ubuntu, which however does not exist
[03:40] <evon> jtaji: i installed it and i went to places > conntect to server and chose ssh but there's a whole bunch of other boxes that i don't know what to put in
[03:40] <bastid_raZor> aviarorman78: normally installing ubuntu-restricted-extras will do the trick.
[03:40] <kazagistar> aviarorman78: does it show the disk? can you see it as a folder?
[03:41] <bgoldsmith>  newbie question regarding grub2 on karmic server RAID 1 array: if /dev/sdb fails, the system boots with the array in degraded mode. Even if grub-install is used to install grub to /dev/sdb, in case of /dev/sda failure, grub cannot bring up the array as it cant seem to find the root, so ... I found what I need to do on http://riseuplabs.org/grimoire/storage/software-raid/ ... however that is for legacy grub.
[03:41] <bigdavjoker> need help making windows partition copied from old hard drive bootable  don't have a Vista install disc handy
[03:41] <jtaji> evon: all you need is Server: which is the IP address or name of the other computer, and User Name: which is the user name on the other computer
[03:41] <aviarorman78> ok give me a moment .
[03:41] <soopos> DaZ: This makes some of my terminal applicatios work wrongly such as SageMath
[03:41] <bgoldsmith>  could someone please point me to the correct steps to follow for installing grub2 to /dev/sdb so that even if /dev/sda fails, the system still boots up
[03:42] <mezquitale> bigdavjoker, that's not ubuntu issue
[03:42] <DaZ> soopos: i don't use selinux unfortunately [;
[03:42] <bgoldsmith> (google doesn't help much, neither does #grub or #RAID on this server right now)
[03:42] <joe__> hello everyone
[03:42] <RenatoSilva> How to convert windows lines to linux? (\r\n -> \n)?
[03:43] <soopos> DaZ: I neiher. I do not know why my Ubuntu 9.10 is on that mode
[03:43] <jtaji> aviarorman78: you probably want libdvdcss2 from the medibuntu repository, which isn't included in ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:43] <bgoldsmith> RenatoSilva: use dos2unix
[03:43] <gimpy5301> renato: dos2unix
[03:43] <jtaji> !medibuntu | aviarorman78
[03:43] <evon> jtaji: thanks i got it now. do i really have to do this just to access the files? I can't just double click on an icon or something?
[03:43] <RenatoSilva> bgoldsmith: have to install?
[03:43] <bgoldsmith> yes
[03:44] <jtaji> evon: well when you go to Connect to Server, click Add bookmark, then an icon will always be in Places
[03:44] <bgoldsmith> just type dos2unix and you'll get the command for installing
[03:44] <aviarorman78> yes it shows the disk. kazagistar
[03:44] <bigdavjoker> mezquitale, I'm running dual boot with ubuntu as my primary OS  was hoping there might be a linux tool to help fix the problem was able to copy partitions using gparted but now only the ubuntu partition will boot windows will not
[03:44] <jtaji> evon: and you won't have to type the info again
[03:44] <plattypus1> Okay... so I've looked over fora, bug lists, and the google, and none of them have helped. I've got a fresh install of Karmic which hangs on boot (same on LiveCD- install via alt. CD worked fine), always at the "Starting AppArmor profiles" step.
[03:44] <RenatoSilva> bgoldsmith: will install just for that then remove :P thanks
[03:45] <bgoldsmith> anyone here with RAID 1 + grub 2 experience on karmic server ?
[03:45] <aviarorman78> ubuntu restricted extras didnt help.
[03:45] <evon> jtaji: ok done. thanks a lot. much appreciated
[03:45] <bgoldsmith> RenatoSilva: np
[03:45] <kazagistar> aviarorman78: try getting Medibuntu working then
[03:45] <jtaji> bgoldsmith: you might also try in #ubuntu-server
[03:45] <bgoldsmith> okay thanks jtaji :)
[03:46] <mezquitale> bigdavjoker, that is a funky way of doing things, it can be done but it will require to reinstall grub
[03:47] <bastid_raZor> aviarorman78: do as jtaji suggested. follow the link for medibuntu.
[03:47] <hamachi> I just installed 8.04 LTS, good version to stick with?
[03:48] <Leftmost> I created an Ubuntu Netbook Remix USB stick with the USB Startup Creator. I'm trying to install it on an EeePC, but it won't boot. "Removable Dev." is selected as the first boot device in the BIOS. Any ideas?
[03:48] <KB1JWQ> Leftmost: What happens when you try it?
[03:48] <Some_Person> I want to find whoever chose to tightly integrate PulseAudio in karmic and kick them in the @$$
[03:48] <KB1JWQ> YOu may not have rendered it bootable.
[03:48] <bastid_raZor> hamachi: for stability yes.
[03:48] <hamachi> bastid: excellent
[03:49] <Leftmost> KB1JWQ, it just boots into Xandros. Doing a cfdisk on the stick shows the boot flag is enabled.
[03:49] <bigdavjoker> mezquitale,   yes I've got grub reinstalled and it sees the windows partition but when I try and boot into it all I get is a blinking cursor
[03:49] <kazagistar> hamachi: if you want something to stick with, you could wait until 10.4LTS comes out, then upgrade to that... that will be supported until 2015
[03:49] <plattypus1> So... anyone know anything about the Karmic boot process hanging because of AppArmor?
[03:49] <Leftmost> Oh, and it doesn't show up in the boot devices menu when I hit Esc at the Eee BIOS.
[03:50] <Leftmost> Err, during POST.
[03:50] <hamachi> kazagistar: yes that's what I was planning on doing
[03:50] <mezquitale> bigdavjoker, so you mean you copied the windows installation to your hard drive and never tested windows alone to see if it could boot?
[03:50] <aviarorman78> ok i will follow the metibuntu link.
[03:50] <bastid_raZor> kazagistar: once Lucid comes out he'll be able to upgrade directly to it from 8.04.. LTS to LTS and skip all the versions in between.
[03:51] <hamachi> bastid: thats perfect.. I got a question, I havent set up my wireless yet on this... where can I get a list of the networks it sees?
[03:52] <Leftmost> hamachi, GUI or commandline?
[03:52] <bigdavjoker> mezquitale,  laptop with HD going bad installed new HD used Gparted to copy partions from old HD in an external enclousre to new HD in laptop   used liveCD to install grub
[03:52] <hamachi> leftmost: GUI
[03:52] <cactusfrog> hi i running ubuntu off  windows HD with wubi  am having some trouble.  i want to copy some files from one windows hd ( the one i am running ubuntu off)  to another windows hd but it keeps giving me this error "Error creating directory: Operation not supported". I guess it has to do with the difrent file systems but is there way i can get around it?
[03:53] <Leftmost> hamachi, NetworkManager should be one of the icons in the upper-right. Perhaps click a couple of them, see if they bring up a list of networks.
[03:53] <kazagistar> cactusfrog: perhaps it is mounted read-only?
[03:53] <cactusfrog> ok then how do i make it so its not read only?
[03:54] <hamachi> leftmost: there's a network icon, but it doesnt give me a list of networks, and my wireless device is active
[03:54] <cactusfrog> how could i find out if its mounted read only?
[03:54] <Leftmost> Does it just say there are no networks in range or something of the sort?
[03:54] <hamachi> leftmost: nothing
[03:54] <Xyie> updated xulrunner-1.9 today and now firefox refuses to open, saying "Error launching browser window:no XBL binding for browser" is anyone else experincing this problem? (and how can i revert to the last one?)
[03:55] <cactusfrog> kazagistar: how can i tell if its not read only and if it is how can i change it so that its not?
[03:55] <Leftmost> hamachi, are you certain the drivers for the card are installed?
[03:55] <mezquitale> bigdavjoker, if the old hard drive was failing I recommend to just reinstall a fresh copy of windows, I dont know if copying with gparted would work, copying the partition with ghost or partition magic would do it but you would need to know what youre doing, in either case, copying partitions from a hard drive going bad can lead to corrupt data, i would not do it
[03:55] <sahilsk> wiki wiki,
[03:55] <hamachi> leftmost: well the OS knows I have a wireless card, so I'm assuming yes.. Is there a way to check?
[03:55] <aviarorman78> is there an other way to get this done. im a linux noob that metibuntu tutorial is no help to me.
[03:56] <Leftmost> hamachi, where does it say it knows you have a card ? (That may be all the answer necessary.)
[03:57] <cactusfrog> how do i talk to a cetrain person like do i press tab or what (i am using pidgen)
[03:57] <jtaji> aviarorman78: all you got to do is run that long command, right under "Adding the Repository", in a terminal
[03:57] <lstarnes> cactusfrog: type their nick manually
[03:57] <mezquitale> cactusfrog, use "!tab"
[03:57] <hamachi> leftmost: when I click on the network icon and go to manual configuation, it shows all my devices: lan, wireless and 56k, and under wireless it says "roaming mode enabled"
[03:57] <lstarnes> cactusfrog: or type the first couple letters then press the tab key
[03:57] <Leftmost> Ahh. Hmm.
[03:57] <digitalaxis> lstarnes, im not sure that works on pidgin
[03:57] <lstarnes> digitalaxis: it should
[03:58] <jtaji> aviarorman78: best way to do that is to select it in your web browser, then middle-click in the terminal to paste it
[03:58] <cactusfrog> ok thats what i thought doesn't work with pidgen i'll install xchat
[03:58] <cactusfrog> hi i running ubuntu off  windows HD with wubi  am having some trouble.  i want to copy some files from one windows hd ( the one i am running ubuntu off)  to another windows hd but it keeps giving me this error "Error creating directory: Operation not supported". I guess it has to do with the difrent file systems but is there way i can get around it?
[03:58] <digitalaxis> cactusfrog, Xchat is sexxy
[03:59] <hamachi> leftmost: I mean its not a big deal, cause I use my laptop on my desk, but I'd like to get this working if its not too much trouble
[03:59] <Leftmost> hamachi, do you know what kind of card it is?
[03:59] <hamachi> leftmost: ahh not quite sure on the number: Maybe Dell Wireless 1350
[04:00] <hamachi> leftmost: I have an Inspiron 9100
[04:00] <iOmlette> I got one of those too.
[04:00] <iOmlette> It is a Dell Wireless 1350.
[04:00] <hamachi> ya thought so
[04:00] <Leftmost> iOmlette, any issues getting wireless running?
[04:01] <iOmlette> Leftmost: Yeah, a few. :P
[04:01] <hamachi> =[
[04:01] <pilif12p> :D Firefox is #1 browser, for you whom care
[04:01] <iOmlette> But finally, I used the bcm-fwcutter packages, which solved it.
[04:01] <hasibullah> hi dear
[04:01] <hasibullah> how to share desktop with other computers
[04:02] <cactusfrog> ok i think i know the problem
[04:02] <cactusfrog> i didn't proerply shutdown windows 7 last time
[04:03] <mezquitale> hasibullah, do you have ubuntu on all machines youw ant to share your machine?
[04:03] <hasibullah> no i have got windows
[04:03] <hasibullah> on the other pcs
[04:04] <mezquitale> hasibullah, ok so you want to access your machine with ubuntu from windows?
[04:05] <hasibullah> yes
[04:06] <hasibullah> i actually accessed windows from ubuntu
[04:06] <hasibullah> but i couldn't access ubuntu from windows
[04:06] <quizme> i'm trying to use http://www.netop.org/services/ip-geolocation
[04:06] <quizme> anybody know how to use it ?
[04:06] <jtaji> hasibullah: you'll need a vnc viewer for windows, tightvnc is a good one
[04:06] <meatbun> how to start radius servre?
[04:07] <dannek7> hey all
[04:07] <dannek7> i downloaded a file with the type executable (application/x-executable)  how do I open this ?
[04:07] <jtaji> hasibullah: then make sure you go to System > Prefs > Remote Desktop on the Ubuntu machine and enable sharing
[04:08] <mezquitale> dandel, what is the name of the application?
[04:09] <dannek7> keygen_vmware7_x86_64
[04:09] <hasibullah> oh thanks i will try it at home later other thing is that how to see another computer 's desktop from ubuntu
[04:10] <jefry7> hello
[04:10] <jtaji> hasibullah: well you knew ubuntu to windows and now you know windows to ubuntu, so do you mean ubuntu to ubuntu?
[04:11] <Guest11778> I have a wireless driver issue-- I have a Linksys WUSB54GC v3 USB dongle-- Have tried many different drivers but I have had no luck-- anyone know alot about wireless drivers?
[04:12] <rukubites> What is the name of the command line utility were you write eg. "foo filename.txt txt" and it will return just the name-part "filename"
[04:12] <nalsa> the last driver I loaded was RT2870USB(RT2870/RT2770) version 2.3.0
[04:12] <hasibullah> no sorry  i don't know ubuntu to windows
[04:13] <mezquitale> rukubites, ls -la
[04:13] <skyl> how do I add postgres to admin?
[04:13] <hasibullah> i mean i can not see the windows desktop from ubuntu
[04:13] <skyl> the existing user to the esisting group
[04:13] <rukubites> mezquitale: errr no.
[04:13] <skyl> existing*
[04:13] <nalsa> can anyone point me in a direction for help with wireless issues
[04:13] <n8tuser> nalsa-> try ndiswrapper and use the windows drivers
[04:13] <nalsa> ndiswrapper *shuddder*
[04:13] <jtaji> hasibullah: you use Terminal Server Client in ubuntu, and you need to enable remote desktop sharing in windows, which you won't have if you have a Home version of windows
[04:13] <n8tuser> you want it working?
[04:13] <iOmlette> nalsa: If you have a Broadcom card, I might be able to help.
[04:13] <nalsa> was trying to avoid that..
[04:14] <rukubites> mezquitale: I found it, it is called 'basename'
[04:14] <nalsa> its RA link
[04:14] <strange> ra link works without ndiswrapper
[04:14] <jtaji> hasibullah: in which case you would need to install tightvnc server in windows, and use Remote Desktop Client in ubuntu
[04:14] <strange> at least my pci card does
[04:14] <nalsa> yeah i heard ra link was good
[04:14] <jtaji> hasibullah: err, Remote Desktop Viewer
[04:14] <strange> worked ootb here
[04:15] <skyl> sudo usermod -a -G admin postgres
[04:15] <nalsa> but I haven't been able to get my wireless dongle to work at all
[04:15] <hasibullah> yes
[04:15] <aqwq> hello
[04:16] <aqwq> my xserver wont work when i start my computer
[04:16] <aqwq> im now im old kernl
[04:16] <aqwq> hellooooooooooo
[04:16] <nalsa> I am not even sure what the exact chipset of the usb device is though-- I have done alot of research and have seen conflicting information
[04:16] <nalsa> been debating breaking the device open
[04:17] <angelus> hi there, is there a specific package i need to install to make samba see my windows machines ??
[04:17] <aqwq> plz help me
[04:17] <aqwq> xserver wont start :S
[04:18] <aqwq> any body here answer me plz i need help
[04:19] <nalsa> anyone know a good wireless irc channel?
[04:19] <sillyCEO> Hello all! I want my monitors (both internal and external monitors) on my Eee 900A to stay ON.  But they insist on sleeping when I leave it inactive for a while. I tried setting the Preferences/Power Settings to "Never" but it doesn't seem to do it. Any ideas where else I can look?
[04:21] <paddy_melon> Hey, my Ubuntu 9.10 disc won't boot on an old PC... it just goes for about 5 minutes before saying no boot medium inserted
[04:21] <paddy_melon> any ideas on how to fix it?
[04:21] <paddy_melon> WinXP disc boots fine
[04:21] <baltadt> paddy is it a dvd?
[04:22] <paddy_melon> baltadt, it is
[04:22] <paddy_melon> but, Windows would be too
[04:22] <modell> paddy_melon: change your boot order?
[04:22] <paddy_melon> modell, it does boot
[04:22] <baltadt> patty, do you have a dvd reader?
[04:22] <paddy_melon> it just says it's not valid
[04:22] <baltadt> ok
[04:22] <paddy_melon> baltadt, it is a dvd reader
[04:22] <modell> paddy_melon, give you the option to check integrity
[04:22] <modell> ?
[04:22] <paddy_melon> and, Windows is on a DVD
[04:23] <paddy_melon> modell, it doesn't boot
[04:23] <paddy_melon> I know the disc is fine b/c I've used it b4
[04:23] <paddy_melon> it's the computer
[04:23] <baltadt> are you running ubuntu already
[04:23] <aqwq> when i press to open fire fox its loading then it wont open :S
[04:23] <paddy_melon> baltadt, no, WinXP but, it screwed up so, won't boot
[04:23] <aqwq> help
[04:23] <goemon9x> hi all
[04:23] <paddy_melon> DSL won't boot either
[04:23] <baltadt> what is the amount of ram you have?
[04:24] <aqwq> any body help me plz
[04:24] <paddy_melon> baltadt, 500 mb
[04:24] <aqwq> very smal problem
[04:24] <paddy_melon> a bit under (like 489
[04:24] <jtaji> aqwq: try 'killall firefox' in a terminal, then try again
[04:24] <baltadt> what speed dvd rom
[04:24] <aqwq> neo@Sys:~$ killall firefox
[04:24] <aqwq> firefox: no process found
[04:24] <paddy_melon> Baltadt, i'm not sure
[04:24] <paddy_melon> but, should be fine
[04:24] <Ahadiel> aqwq, Then firefox isn't running.
[04:24] <aqwq> yea
[04:24] <baltadt> look at the front
[04:25] <Ahadiel> aqwq, So what's your problem?
[04:25] <aqwq> fire fox is not runung yet its just loading
[04:25] <paddy_melon> the DSL Floppy disc isn't working either
[04:25] <aqwq> fire fox is loading and not open :s
[04:25] <baltadt> maybe bad dvd rom
[04:25] <paddy_melon> baltadt, I'll go look but, it's in the basemen... may take like 30 secs
[04:25] <baltadt> ok
[04:25] <paddy_melon> baltadt, I tried DSL and, it doesn't work either
[04:25] <paddy_melon> plus, I've used the disc b4
[04:25] <ctmjr> aqwq: run it a terminal and see what errors you get
[04:25] <aqwq> i press the tap of firefox then it loading starting firefox then not open its despair
[04:25] <aqwq> ok
[04:26] <baltadt> maybe dvd rom is bad
[04:26] <aqwq> neo@Sys:~$ firefox
[04:26] <aqwq> Bus error
[04:26] <aqwq> wht is bus error:O
[04:26] <baltadt> paddy, if you can try in another computer
[04:27] <paddy_melon> baltadt, I have and it works
[04:27] <paddy_melon> baltadt, it might just be a CD drive
[04:27] <paddy_melon> doesn't say DVD actually
[04:27] <paddy_melon> that's probably the issue
[04:27] <jtaji> paddy_melon: that's likely, pretty sure XP is a CD
[04:27] <baltadt> if it is dvd then it will say dvd rom
[04:27] <paddy_melon> Is XP a CD?
[04:27] <baltadt> you can buy a used one for like $20
[04:27] <aqwq> my frist problem is the x server it wont work but i booted in old kernl then start x its start now and i reboot my computer then start with the lastes kernl ... its done im now loged in my pc on x but fire fox now wont start
[04:27] <paddy_melon> Wow, Vista is like 4 gigs
[04:28] <baltadt> I think xp is cd
[04:28] <paddy_melon> ok
[04:28] <paddy_melon> thanks
[04:28] <noise> hi
[04:28] <paddy_melon> that's my issue then
[04:28] <baltadt> might be wrong though
[04:28] <baltadt> i refurbish old computers and had to buy a spare dvd rom for it
[04:28] <noise> hi everyone
[04:28] <paddy_melon> but, any ideas why the DSL Floppy won't work?
[04:29] <paddy_melon> Is there a floppy I can boot that then boots a USB for me (doesn't have USB option, too old)
[04:29] <noise> are U using DSL
[04:29] <baltadt> not off the top of my head
[04:29] <paddy_melon> no
[04:29] <aqwq> :(:*
[04:29] <paddy_melon> baltadt, thanks for your help
[04:29] <noise> try to create a floppy boot
[04:29] <baltadt> np
[04:30] <paddy_melon> noise, a floppy boot of what?
[04:30] <aqwq> baltadt
[04:30] <paddy_melon> WTF?
[04:30] <aqwq> u ther
[04:30] <jtaji> !pm | aqwq
[04:31] <aqwq> sorry:(
[04:31] <baltadt> I need help with remote desktop viewer. Anyone here able to help?
[04:31] <aqwq> i doing sudo apt-get remove firefox
[04:31] <basas> How do I install Ubuntu on the Nintendo Wii?
[04:31] <jihedamine> Hi, what is ubuntu karmic using for the first boot screen (not the xsplash screen) ? Is it customizable please ?
[04:31] <aqwq> then renstall it again
[04:31] <vajorie> aqwq: can you launch gimp (try using terminal)?
[04:31] <paddy_melon> basas... I don't think the port has been done
[04:32] <strange> on the wii?
[04:32] <paddy_melon> basas, get a PS3
[04:32] <basas> I have the homebrew channel installed
[04:32] <paddy_melon> basas, there is a linux GUI distro though
[04:32] <Enigmator_> is there a way to disable Nepomuk system without getting multiple errors in dolphin console output ?
[04:32] <aqwq> yea
[04:32] <holmser> whats the command to burn isos from the command line?
[04:32] <aqwq> gimp its working
[04:32] <paddy_melon> basas, the HBC doesn't instantly allow the Wii to be a supercomputer... it isn't capable of Ubuntu
[04:32] <paddy_melon> Ubuntu server... yes
[04:33] <jihedamine> Is the first boot screen on karmic using usplash ?
[04:33] <baltadt> I can't see windows with VNC. anyone?
[04:33] <marks256> Can LVM be used across servers? Say if i have 2 servers each with 8TB of space, can i combine those over the network into a single LVM?
[04:33] <nyxx> hi, I just updated to 9.10 from an older ubuntu (8.04)... I use this primarily over a remote x-session. It won't let me mount usb&other hard drives from the remote session, nor will it let me adjust user & groups options. What config file do I need to tweak to disable this protection?
[04:33] <paddy_melon> baltadt, never had that problem
[04:33] <vajorie> aqwq: is your system uptodate? sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:34] <aqwq> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:34] <aqwq> yes its uptodate
[04:34] <baltadt> I can see the desktop and when I open windows i see them on monitor but not remote computer
[04:34] <aqwq> Reading package lists... Done
[04:34] <Alan502> How can i automate downloads in kubuntu? so when a download ends, the other one would start automatically. I have kget but i can't find any similar option.
[04:34] <aqwq> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:35] <Alan502> How can i automate downloads in kubuntu? so when a download ends, the other one would start automatically. I have kget but i can't find any similar option.
[04:35] <vajorie> aqwq: does firefox run in safe mode? firefox -safe-mode
[04:35] <holmser> damn... I keep getting coasters no matter which prog I use to burn discs
[04:35] <aqwq> root@Sys:/tmp# firefox -safe-mode
[04:35] <aqwq> Bus erro
[04:36] <vajorie> aqwq: root? why (also how) using root?
[04:36] <paddy_melon> Anyone know a floppy disc that will allow me to then boot a bootable USB on a computer too old to boot USB? Any linux distro will do, I just need to get files off before I reformat
[04:36] <holmser> tracking servo failure?  what the hell?
[04:36] <aqwq> how wht?
[04:36] <IdleOne> !repeat | Alan502
[04:36] <aqwq> sudo bash
[04:36] <aqwq> give me root access
[04:36] <holmser> this is killing me
[04:36] <paddy_melon> or, a linux distro on a flashdrive that allows me to upload the contents of the HDD over FTP
[04:37] <paddy_melon> aqwq, try sudo -i
[04:37] <vajorie> aqwq: try launching firefox from your regular user account
[04:37] <Alan502> thanks IdleOne
[04:37] <aqwq> neo@Sys:~$ firefox
[04:37] <aqwq> Bus error
[04:37] <nyxx> can anyone help me? This new setting is a major annoyance.
[04:38] <aqwq> when terminal firefox its give me bus error
[04:38] <aqwq> i even cant google the problem caz firefox wont start
[04:39] <leetom> aqwq: use chrome
[04:39] <vajorie> aqwq: sudo apt-get install aurora
[04:39] <seq> I moved a server to using software raid with mdadm (and lvm on top of that). I get dumped in the initramfs and do not have any /dev/md* devices. Anybody have any ideas on how to fix?
[04:39] <aqwq> E: Couldn't find package aurora
[04:40] <d9500> aqwq, arora.
[04:40] <d9500> not aurora, if you mean the browser
[04:40] <equs> paddy_melon, puppylinux will allow you to install to USB and build a boot floppy
[04:40] <aqwq> arora like firefox?
[04:40] <vajorie> aqwq: sorry, mistyped, it was arora
[04:40] <aqwq> brother
[04:40] <aqwq> why firefox give me bus error
[04:40] <aqwq> and wht is bus error
[04:40] <aqwq> arora is 40 mg :S
[04:41] <d9500> aqwq, from what i've seen, arora is a lot like firfox but 1) based on webkit instead of gecko, 2) much faster to launch, and 3) comes with flash blocking (maybe other script blocking too?) built in, instead of as a third party add-on
[04:41] <paddy_melon> equs, thank you very much
[04:41] <aqwq> ok
[04:42] <equs> paddy_melon, you are welcome
[04:42] <aqwq> but we did't resolve the firefox problem
[04:42] <Chewie[]> question: running ubuntu 9.10 (gnome), i have two monitors as separate x servers using the nvidia driver. is there a way to specify different settings for each session? or a different user? or a different WM?
[04:42] <vajorie> aqwq: you could also search fro browsers in synaptic package mamaner. suggested as temporary fix...
[04:43] <Chewie[]> aqwq: what is the firefox problem?
[04:43] <aqwq> when i press firefox to open it its loading then despair
[04:44] <paddy_melon> sorry to trouble you equs but, can you point me to a link of this?
[04:44] <paddy_melon> can't seem to find it
[04:44] <lstarnes> quok: what happens when you start it in a terminal?
[04:44] <aqwq> then i try to start it from trimnal its says bus error
[04:44] <lstarnes> aqwq: try moving ~/.mozilla/ to another location or deleting it
[04:44] <Chewie[]> aqwq: rename .firefox and see if it changes.. if it does, it's a profile problem, most likely an extension problem.
[04:45] <Chewie[]> aqwq: also, have you restarted X since this started happening?
[04:45] <aqwq> i back from work i trun on my computer then x wont start
[04:45] <Chewie[]> lstarnes is correct, ~/.mozilla, not what i said.
[04:45] <vajorie> Chewie[]: aqwq tried starting firefox in safe mode as well, same error
[04:45] <aqwq> yea
[04:46] <basas> How do I install Ubuntu on my Nintendo Wii?
[04:46] <aqwq> now arora is done
[04:46] <basas> I have the homebrew channel installted
[04:47] <holmser> no ubuntu for wii
[04:47] <equs> paddy_melon, http://puppylinux.org/main/index.php?file=Overview%20and%20Getting%20Started.htm
[04:47] <ajt1> hello everyone
[04:47] <dg1> hwy my avi movies are a funny color
[04:47] <dg1> hey*
[04:47] <basas> I can't install ubuntu on my wii?
[04:47] <skitzo> hey guys!!!
[04:47] <vajorie> aqwq: have a look at here if arora worked: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1026086&highlight=firefox+bus+error
[04:48] <jtaji> basas: you can not
[04:48] <aqwq> thx
[04:48] <basas> oh damn
[04:48] <basas> i can install debian
[04:48] <basas> and gentoo
[04:48] <paddy_melon> thanks equs
[04:48] <ajt1> wheres the place/channel to ask my stereotypical ubuntu gone wrong question?
[04:49] <jtaji> basas: interesting, didn't know that.. I'd say stick with debian then
[04:49] <paddy_melon> uh, sorry equs but, can't find it on that page
[04:49] <ajt1> yes i have tried the forums
[04:49] <jtaji> basas: I don't see anyone having done ubuntu yet
[04:49] <holmser> http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Wii_Linux
[04:49] <basas> http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Wii_Linux
[04:50] <basas> personal jynx!
[04:50] <holmser> thats about it... very specialized distros
[04:50] <equs> paddy_melon, go to #puppylinux on freedode for help
[04:50] <paddy_melon> ok thanks
[04:50] <skitzo> well i just switched from the 32 bit version of ubuntu to the x64 to take advantage of my processer/memory etc.. and was just wondering before i go stuffing it all up what do i need to know as far as installing applications etc.. im thinking flash etc thats still only 32bit (i think) does the software centre recognise my os as x64? and will it source 64bit apps within it?
[04:51] <baltadt> need help with vnc, cant see windows but can see desktop
[04:51] <jtaji> skitzo: it still installs the 32-bit flash
[04:51] <jtaji> skitzo: works fine here
[04:52] <jtaji> skitzo: but yeah basically everything else will be 64-bit
[04:53] <leetom> baltadt: have you installed vncserver
[04:53] <ajt1> is there a way to restore / repair an ubuntu user profile? i turned on my netbook the other day and now the top bar is all reset to default. Also, I cant run a lot of programs.
[04:53] <skitzo> jtaji, sweet.. so within the software center it will have all x64 software if available.. (so i dont need to jump online and go source it out myself)
[04:53] <baltadt> i don't think so
[04:54] <baltadt> leetom, sudo apt-get install vncserver?
[04:54] <leetom> baltadt: or vnc4server
[04:54] <baltadt> on server or remote
[04:54] <d9500> skitzo, don't use the flash from the repos, either through app center or synaptic. it's 32-bit, and still requires nsplugin wrapper, etc. use the 64-bit flash 10.0.34.42 from http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.42.34.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[04:54] <leetom> baltadt: on server
[04:54] <baltadt> ok will try that
[04:55] <whammo> I notice I don't have soundjuicer and it's not in the repos. can anybody recommend a good substitute?
[04:55] <baltadt> leetom, ok installed on server. now what
[04:56] <skitzo> d9500, shot bro! mean.. thanks for that info
[04:57] <Oinkoinkoink> Hi i need help with Evolution Mail
[04:57] <leetom> baltadt: is that vnc4server or vncserver?
[04:57] <baltadt> vnc4server
[04:57] <KB1JWQ> Oinkoinkoink: Okay.  What's the issue?
[04:57] <d9500> np skitzo
[04:57] <Oinkoinkoink> Me and my girlfriend are using Evolution
[04:57] <Oinkoinkoink> With different mail account
[04:57] <Oinkoinkoink> But when i configure it
[04:57] <Oinkoinkoink> All my mail and her
[04:57] <Oinkoinkoink> Are mix
[04:58] <FloodBot3> Oinkoinkoink: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:58] <Oinkoinkoink> How come
[04:58] <leetom> baltadt: run vnc4server on server
[04:58] <lstarnes> Oinkoinkoink: are you using separate computer accounts?
[04:58] <Oinkoinkoink> No
[04:58] <lstarnes> Oinkoinkoink: that would explaim it
[04:58] <lstarnes> *explain
[04:58] <leetom> baltadt: the connect server with ip:5901
[04:58] <DaskreeCh> Hello
[04:58] <DaskreeCh> why would do-release-upgrade fail ?
[04:59] <Oinkoinkoink> Its impossible to have 2 different mail account
[04:59] <Oinkoinkoink> On the same session
[04:59] <lstarnes> DaskreeCh: it depends on the error messages
[04:59] <DaskreeCh> It cannot find the 9.10 upgrade servers?
[04:59] <Oinkoinkoink> Thats a little bit stupid lol
[04:59] <DaskreeCh> lstarnes: No new release found
[05:00] <jmyers1> When I do a 'sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' I get 'FATAL: Module ndiswrapper not found.' -- any ideas what I might do to remedy this?
[05:00] <Oinkoinkoink> And im using a POP with my mail, i cannot see the picture
[05:00] <lstarnes> DaskreeCh: I'm not sure what would cause that
[05:00] <skitzo> d9500, i downloaded it mate, but i cant install it through synaptic..
[05:00] <lstarnes> jmyers1: you need the right packages for ndiswrapper installed
[05:00] <DaskreeCh> lstarnes: Me either it's really annoying
[05:01] <jmyers1> lstarnes: Well, I installed the driver with it via the ndiswrapper -i wg311v3.inf command
[05:01] <Oinkoinkoink> Ndiswrapper is a pain in the a55
[05:01] <Oinkoinkoink> Good luck body
[05:02] <kcj1993> where is System → Administration → Services in 9.10
[05:02] <d9500> skitzo, don't use synaptic or dpkg. it's not a .deb file. it should be a tar.gz file. just open the directory in nautilus where you downloaded it to, then right-click on the tar.gz package and choose "extract here." it will extract a file called libflashplayer.so.
[05:02] <baltadt> leetom: when i log in now there is no desktop
[05:03] <skitzo> d9500, all good, sorry still a newbie aye lol windows has warped my fragile little mind ahaha
[05:03] <d9500> skitzo, then close firefox and any other browsers, open your home folder in nautilus, hit ctrl+h to show hidden directories, open the .mozilla directory, and create a directory inside it called "plugins" (no quotes.) copy libflashplayer.so to that directory, open firefox and you should have the flashplugin instealled now.
[05:03] <bodi> hello all
[05:03] <whammo> hello
[05:03] <baltadt> what program should I use on remote puter
[05:03] <d9500> skitzo, you can test by going to youtube, dailymotion, any site that needs flash to play videos, etc.
[05:04] <skitzo> d9500, shot! legend
[05:04] <leetom> baltadt: maybe you should edit  $HOME/.vnc/xstartup
[05:05] <tawhnee> when I press ctrl + Z what does that do?
[05:05] <tawhnee> in shell
[05:05] <DaskreeCh> tawhnee: Suspend a task
[05:05] <|_ocke> it suspends the process
[05:05] <DaskreeCh> tawhnee: type jobs
[05:05] <tawhnee> Can it still like run?
[05:05] <|_ocke> puts it in background status
[05:05] <|_ocke> its still running
[05:05] <Tiders> How does KDE's speed compare to GDM
[05:05] <tawhnee> ah
[05:06] <angch> hardy 8.04. why is any process by haldaemon shows up as it's uid when i do a "ps axu"? everything else is fine, and haldaemon is listed in /etc/passwd
[05:06] <DaskreeCh> Tiders: do you mean Gnome?
[05:06] <vajorie> tawhnee: afaik it will not be running though it's backgrounded
[05:06] <leetom> baltadt: and you have to logout the gome on server
[05:06] <baltadt> leetom: what program on remote puter side
[05:06] <Tiders> DaskreeCh, Yes
[05:06] <dragonfist> help me!
[05:06] <Tiders> DaskreeCh, GDM is another name for Gnome is it not?
[05:06] <tawhnee> how do i bring it back from background?
[05:06] <dragonfist> my monitor makes me dizzy.
[05:06] <DaskreeCh> Tiders: about the same though Gnome is much snappier at startup
[05:06] <vajorie> tawhnee: try with firefox: open in terminal, tell it to load a website, ctrl+z while loading
[05:06] <skitzo> d9500, did all that mate, but when i went to youtube.com i got the message Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player.
[05:07] <DaskreeCh> Tiders: No they are different things
[05:07] <vajorie> tawhnee: command is fg
[05:07] <dragonfist> i want to change the refresh rate but how?
[05:07] <Tiders> DaskreeCh, Could you explain?
[05:07] <leetom> baltadt: the pre-installed one is ok
[05:08] <DaskreeCh> Tiders: Gnome is the Desktop and princples around it
[05:08] <d9500> skitzo, you're not using flashblock or noscript addons in firefox, are you?
[05:08] <DaskreeCh> GDM is the login screen
[05:08] <DaskreeCh> Or the program that gives you the login screen
[05:09] <skitzo> d9500, um.. i don't think so i just freshly installed ubuntu
[05:09] <Tiders> DaskreeCh, Isnt GDE just an acronym for Gnome Desktop Environment?
[05:09] <lstarnes> DaskreeCh: it is also responsible for managing the session, starting the desktop environment, and restarting X when it fails
[05:09] <lstarnes> Tiders: no
[05:09] <skitzo> d9500, maybe java isn't installed?
[05:09] <lstarnes> Tiders: gnome is always gnome
[05:09] <DaskreeCh> Tiders: You said GDM
[05:09] <rejohn1> Anyone here think they can help me figure out why my  laptop wont upgrade from KU 904 to 910?  The only tinng that's not completely standard is I've been using the KDE upgrade sw from launchpad ppa. Have been doing "apt-get update" "apt-get dist-upgrade" to maintain the system.  In #kubuntu, we can't figure it out.  Any thoughts?
[05:09] <skitzo> d9500, do i need to find a x64 version java to?
[05:09] <DaskreeCh> lstarnes: Right but it can hardly be considered GNome
[05:09] <mdeonte> How do I get my server to look like that
[05:09] <DaskreeCh> it's just the display manager
[05:10] <Tiders> DaskreeCh, Whats the difference between GDE and GDM then X_X
[05:10] <baltadt> when I  log out on server the access on remote like 192.168.254.2 it say no connection
[05:10] <mdeonte> oops
[05:10] <mdeonte> nvm
[05:10] <d9500> skitzo, not that i can tell. i can use the 64-bit flash plugin fine on my machine w/ no java runtime environment installed.
[05:10] <baltadt> when I use 192.168.254.2:5901 is gives grey screen with 3 checked blocks
[05:11] <lstarnes> Tiders: GDE doesn't exist
[05:11] <leetom> baltadt: have you closed the gnome on server?
[05:11] <Tiders> lstarnes Ive heard it said often
[05:11] <lstarnes> Tiders: there is no such thing as GDE.  Gnome is always just "Gnome" or "GNOME"
[05:11] <lstarnes> Tiders: this is the first time I've heard it
[05:11] <alankila> KDM and GDM, I bet, is the real question.
[05:11] <leetom> gdk?
[05:12] <baltadt> u mean the gui
[05:12] <Tiders> lstarnes, Ah.. Maybe just all the people I talk to use it as slang or something
[05:12] <DaskreeCh> alankila: That's a silly question in that context
[05:12] <leetom> baltadt: yea
[05:12] <lstarnes> Tiders: GDM just handles logging in, starting the rest of Gnome or another desktop environment, and restarting X when it shuts off
[05:12] <DaskreeCh> Tiders: Or ignorance :)
[05:12] <d9500> skitzo, also, make sure you do not have any existing flash player (32-bit) or gnash (open source flash player) instealled.
[05:12] <baltadt> no how do I do that
[05:12] <lstarnes> Tiders: KDM does the same thing, but it is part of KDE, not Gnome
[05:12] <d9500> installed*
[05:13] <leetom> baltadt: logout, then press ctrl+alt+F1, login, then vnc4server
[05:14] <chilli0> Hi i need some help, Im on the live cd atm and i have 30gig of unalocated space . How can i make another partion bigger ?
[05:14] <skitzo> d9500, i'll check
[05:14] <DaskreeCh> Does anyone have any insight as to why do-release-upgrade would fail with no new release found on Jaunty at this time ?
[05:15] <baltadt> leetom: how to re enable gui
[05:15] <DaskreeCh> chilli0: gparted
[05:15] <dukz> i'm having trouble with network manager. What should a route look like?
[05:15] <Razer> does anyone use xmonad?
[05:15] <chilli0> DaskreeCh:  Im on gparted .
[05:15] <vajorie> chilli0: make sure you have back ups though
[05:15] <DaskreeCh> chilli0: Then you resize as you need to then
[05:16] <leetom> baltadt: you cant login on remote after you enabled gui
[05:16] <chilli0> Must i make the unallocated ext3 ?
[05:16] <skitzo> d9500, just checked no other flash installed, software centres giving me the option to install adobe flash.. wont this be the x64 version?
[05:16] <alankila> dukz: a declaration of gateway address for reaching certain network or host?
[05:16] <baltadt> but if I wanted to
[05:16] <dukz> alankila: hehe wait... im putting mine on pastebin
[05:16] <leetom> baltadt: press ctrl+alt+F7 you'll see gdm
[05:17] <sontek> Hey, I have a gnome menu that doesn't have shutdown/reboot in it, I looked in edit menus and didn't see a way to enable it
[05:17] <d9500> skitzo, no. the x64 flash player is still considered "prerelease" software, so it's not in the repos yet, and software center/synaptic pull from the repos.
[05:17] <sontek> you guys have any idea? =)
[05:17] <DaskreeCh> chilli0: make it what ever you please
[05:17] <ardchoil1e> sontek: Look in your user menu over on the right
[05:17] <Razer> chilli0:  use ext4
[05:17] <skitzo> d9500, :( i dunno then i did what ya said
[05:17] <xpololz> Hi, i'm new to ubuntu and i need to get gforth 0.7.0 installed can anyone help me? pm please :)
[05:17] <sontek> ardchoil1e: I want the extra screenspace so I got rid of that
[05:17] <baltadt> leetom: ok i'm logged in now. but it is terminal. is there a way to see the gui remotly?
[05:18] <ardchoil1e> sontek: then the shutdown/reboot options should have automatically been added to your standard menu
[05:19] <Zeppelin> Hi
[05:19] <Zeppelin> I downloaded WhatPulse from the website
[05:19] <vajorie> sontek: (too obvious, sorry) did you look under "System"?
[05:19] <Zeppelin> i open the whatpulse program by opening the whatpulse file in ~/Desktop/32bit/
[05:19] <Zeppelin> bu..
[05:19] <Zeppelin> but..
[05:19] <Zeppelin> i want whatpulse to show up under the applications menu, i don't know how to do this
[05:19] <leetom> baltadt: terminal? gnome should run ...
[05:20] <d9500> skitzo, open firefox and then, on the menu bar, click on "tools" and then "add-ons." when the add-ons window opens, click "plugins." you should see "Shockwave Flash. Shockwave Flash 10.0 r42" there. do you?
[05:20] <baltadt> leetom: i have grey background with the 3 boxes and a terminal window in front
[05:21] <Catty> Greetings... new install of ubuntu 9.04 (couldnt install 9.10 for some reason all the .ISOs I d/l'ed didn't seem to work..)... I can't get online with this base install though.. need to be able to make (?) ad-hoc wireless connections... which software packages might I be able to download to put on a cd or usb stick to transfer to the computer (need to d/l it on windows, so no easy apt-get here..) thanks...
[05:21] <skitzo> d9500, no
[05:21] <leetom> baltadt: that's when i login gnome on server
[05:22] <leetom> baltadt: you login on another computer?
[05:22] <cb1147> I just installed Ubuntu, but I did not install the boot loader, because I am not the only person who uses the system and I do not want to confuse them.  Is it possible to boot from the installation disc?
[05:22] <d9500> skitzo, then either one of two things is happening. the libflashplayer.so is not in the correct directory/not being detected by firefox, or, less likely, you're not running an x64 system.
[05:22] <chilli0> DaskreeCh:  Erm
[05:22] <baltadt> yes when I log in on remote computer with Remote desktop viewer
[05:22] <sircrazy> so i was looking at ubuntu, but is there a rolling release type like debian? where i like debian for that, but i cant find it
[05:23] <D9> Need help installing intel video drivers.  My got corrupted and I have a white screen when I try to load in to gnome.  Even in safe mode.  I can get into a terminal.  Can somone help me down load the intel vid drivers via the terminal.  they are in synaptic.  Thanks.
[05:23] <chilli0> It doesnt let me resize it
[05:23] <Some_Person> sircrazy: You mean like debian unstable?
[05:23] <d9500> skitzo, pm me and i'll go into more detailed instructions on how to do the install.
[05:23] <chilli0> I hawe the unallocated and when i try to make the ext3 bigger it dont work
[05:23] <leetom> baltadt: what about the server? it runs with gui?
[05:23] <lstarnes> sircrazy: you could try the development branch (ubuntu 10.04 is the current development version), but it is extremely likely to break and it is unsu[[prted
[05:23] <sircrazy> Some_Person: i mean like rolling release, where i install it, and i just keep adding updates
[05:23] <baltadt> leetom: yes it does
[05:23] <vishah> hello all, Im trying to find a list of security vulnerabilities for sendmail v8.13.1, for uppgrading purposes.
[05:24] <baltadt> leetom: do I need to log out on server?
[05:24] <leetom> baltadt: yeah
[05:24] <baltadt> ok let me try that
[05:24] <lstarnes> vishah: ubuntu's packages are automatically updated to patch security vulnerabilities
[05:24] <vajorie> sircrazy: neither are rolling releases... you do dist-upgrades, which tend to create problems
[05:24] <sircrazy> is ubuntu all in numbers 9.04 and 9.10 etc, or is there a branch just for rolling release
[05:24] <dukz> hey guys. Help with network-manager. I seem to be having trouble with my route output whenver I use a certain IP
[05:24] <sircrazy> oh, i thought it was like debian though
[05:24] <baltadt> leetom: then local ip plus :5901?\
[05:24] <vajorie> sircrazy: for rolling release, see arch linux
[05:24] <dukz> http://pastebin.com/m2eba9728 <[05:24] <lstarnes> sircrazy: there is no such branch
[05:25] <sircrazy> darn
[05:25] <vajorie> sircrazy: debian isn't rolling release either
[05:25] <sircrazy> i like ubuntu style
[05:25] <D9> Anyone know how to load the vid drivers from repositories via the terminal?
[05:25] <sircrazy> used 9.04
[05:25] <lstarnes> sircrazy: some distributions only offer that kind of branch, like gentoo and arch
[05:25] <sircrazy> but i dont like this giant jump to 9.10
[05:25] <vishah> lstarnes: yes but this is on a server, they want a list of vulnerabilities, because they are thinking of upgrading
[05:25] <sircrazy> seems so big
[05:25] <leetom> baltadt: maybe you have to run vnc4server in command another time
[05:25] <sircrazy> like if i dont reinstall i will have issue
[05:25] <lstarnes> vishah: if it's the ubuntu package, it should be patched automatically
[05:25] <Some_Person> sircrazy: it goes by year.month
[05:25] <dukz> when i use a 192.168.10.50, the route goes crazy, I can ping internally, but can't get out of the network. But when I use a 192.168.10.60, everything seems to be fine.
[05:25] <lstarnes> vishah: although it will be patched, not upgraded to an upstream version
[05:25] <Some_Person> sircrazy: 9.10 = 2009 september
[05:26] <sircrazy> right
[05:26] <sircrazy> no
[05:26] <Some_Person> sircrazy: october sorry
[05:26] <lstarnes> vishah: most linux distributions patch packages for security issues
[05:26] <sircrazy> october
[05:26] <D9> is this thing working?  can you see this?
[05:26] <dukz> I didnt have this problem last week. and I need my ip to be 10.50 since i've already setup my NAT, etc.
[05:26] <sircrazy> lol
[05:26] <lstarnes> dukz: yes
[05:26] <FloodBot3> sircrazy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:26] <lstarnes> dukz: oops, wrong person
[05:26] <lstarnes> D9: yes, it is working
[05:26] <D9> Oh good.
[05:26] <dukz> any suggestions?
[05:26] <lstarnes> D9: I don't know an answer to your question though. Sorry.
[05:26] <D9> :-)
[05:26] <d9500> sircrazy, ubuntu (unfortunately IMO) doesn't have a rolling-release system. that said, you can use PPAs to make some of the major parts (kernel, firefox, openoffice even, I think) get frequent, even daily updates to the latest version.
[05:26] <alankila> dukz: what do you mean by "when I use 192.168.10.50". These are two different machines?
[05:26] <sircrazy> but i was thinking more like something where it doesnt have 9.10, just ubuntu base and i just upgrade every week or so and it stays with all the current stuff, like on debian, where its number 5, but its like rolling
[05:27] <sircrazy> ok, that stinks
[05:27] <D9> lstarnes: so who is the rock star when it comes to vid drivers?
[05:27] <alankila> dukz: the problem with the .50 is that the default route points to localhost instead of 192.168.10.2.
[05:27] <lstarnes> D9: nobody in particular
[05:27] <Some_Person> sircrazy: anyway, there are 3 branches of ubuntu: lts, stable, and development. lts has few long term releases. stable has 6 month releases. development is for development of the next stable version, and is pretty much unusable usually
[05:27] <dukz> alankila: same machine. I just edited the IP in network manager.
[05:27] <dukz> alankila: That's right. My default gw should be 192.168.10.2 (that's our firewall).
[05:27] <sircrazy> so long term release is kind of like rolling, because it lasts a long time?
[05:27] <vajorie> sircrazy: what you described is arch linux :)
[05:27] <alankila> dukz: aha. Hmm. I don't know why that would happen, though, but the gateway is wrong, maybe you can somehow force it correct.
[05:28] <baltadt> leetom: i am loged in on server but in terminal. still on remote puter
[05:28] <Some_Person> sircrazy: No, it gets few updates.
[05:28] <sircrazy> i hear arch linux is real hard, that u have to do a LOT of manual stuff
[05:28] <alankila> dukz: oh wait, I said wrong way ... .60 is the one with localhost as gateway...
[05:28] <lstarnes> sircrazy: it's easier than gentoo
[05:28] <baltadt> leetom: is there a way to make gui show
[05:28] <vajorie> sircrazy: it's hard because it's a rolling release.
[05:28] <lstarnes> sircrazy: and it's only a bit harder than debian
[05:28] <lstarnes> sircrazy: some operations are actually easier
[05:28] <sircrazy> really, well i saw they have new stuff
[05:28] <leetom> baltadt: try startx
[05:28] <sircrazy> i like that
[05:28] <Some_Person> sircrazy: there's no "rolling release" for ubuntu like there is for debian (assuming you refer to unstable branch).
[05:28] <sircrazy> but i always told ubuntu is more stable
[05:29] <dukz> alankila: alankila, actually, it's the correct gateway. That's why I find it weird that when I set it to 10.60, it has a localhost gateway, but it can connect to the internet. but the one with 10.50 cannot
[05:29] <D9> anyone know how to down load drivers in terminal?  From the repositories.
[05:29] <baltadt> leetom: user not allthorized to run x server   aborting
[05:30] <leetom> baltadt: then sudo startx?
[05:30] <alankila> dukz: I agree. It is the first time I see something like this -- I have no idea how your symptoms can happen. Linux should not be capable of routing the packets correctly when it sets itself as the gateway.
[05:30] <sircrazy> so can i make arch stable like ubuntu?
[05:30] <Some_Person> sircrazy: I'd recommend sticking with the stable branch pretty much always for ubuntu. When the development branch gets to RC status it's pretty close to stable if not already, but you might as well wait the extra short time to be sure
[05:30] <fer> hola
[05:31] <lstarnes> sircrazy: it's usually stable for me in virtual machines
[05:31] <sircrazy> virtual what?
[05:31] <vajorie> sircrazy: stable means having a system that is already well tested
[05:31] <dukz> alankila: yeah i know. it wasnt like this before, and i was wondering about it when i got here this mroning
[05:31] <dukz> ugh
[05:31] <lstarnes> sircrazy: machines
[05:31] <sircrazy> oh like vbox?
[05:31] <lstarnes> sircrazy: yes
[05:31] <Some_Person> sircrazy: If you do want/need more recent packages for a stable release there are unofficial repositories (often on launchpad ppa)
[05:31] <sircrazy> i should try that, can i like practice in that.
[05:31] <cb1147> I'm wanting to install Ubuntu 9.10 alongside an existing Windows 7 installation, but I do not want Ubuntu's boot loader installed for various reasons.  I simply want the machine to boot as if Ubuntu wasn't installed.  Is it possible to manually boot Ubuntu from the installation CD?
[05:31] <sircrazy> i heard about ppa, but it seems ahrd
[05:31] <lstarnes> sircrazy: yes
[05:31] <lstarnes> sircrazy: ppas are relatively easy
[05:31] <sircrazy> hard. having to edit system files
[05:32] <lstarnes> sircrazy: editing system files isn't always as hard as you think it is
[05:32] <sircrazy> oh
[05:32] <sircrazy> i should look it up
[05:32] <sircrazy> i heard u get new firefox that way
[05:32] <D9> is it that microsoft is releasing MSLINUX 1.0 in febuary?
[05:32] <dukz> can't even traceroute
[05:32] <lstarnes> sircrazy: as long as you pay attention to announcements related to updates, most rolling release systems can be kept stable easily
[05:33] <sircrazy> oh, does that comment refer to arch?
[05:33] <sircrazy> there is like so much to learn
[05:33] <sircrazy> i dont know where to begin, lol
[05:33] <lstarnes> sircrazy: or any other rolling release system
[05:33] <photobug21> Hello :)
[05:33] <lstarnes> sircrazy: you can learn the basics of linux systems on an easier distribution like ubuntu
[05:33] <sircrazy> thank you for all of your knoweldge and tolerating me
[05:33] <D9> hi photobug21 what do you need
[05:34] <DaskreeCh> lstarnes: or LFS!
[05:34] <lstarnes> DaskreeCh: that's more advanced though
[05:35] <chris_> LOAF
[05:35] <xpololz> Hi, i'm new to ubuntu and i need to get gforth 0.7.0 installed can anyone help me? pm please :)
[05:36] <alankila> dukz: check out if iptables nat and normal chains are empty when the localhost gateway is in use. Maybe there's some super weird netfilter setup
[05:36] <photobug21> Hi, just hanging out D9 thanks
[05:36] <photobug21> brb
[05:36] <alankila> dukz: that's all I can think of
[05:38] <D9> anyone know how to install vid driver from the repositorys.
[05:38] <lstarnes> !intel | D9
[05:38] <D9> lstarnes, know regression.. what does that mean
[05:38] <vajorie> sircrazy: I think you might wanna rethink whether what you want is really a "rolling release" distro, or just some of the software that is quite up to date (eg, having firefox up to date instead of having all the system on the bleeding edge brand new packages). In ubuntu, it is really not that hard to jump from one long-term supported version to another every 3 year or so (called "LTS), while keeping some of the packages you wan
[05:39] <baltadt> leetom: great I don't have a terminal anymore. i tryed to start over and typed exit
[05:39] <lstarnes> D9: something becoming broken or downgrading in functionality
[05:39] <cb1147> I have installed Ubuntu 9.10 alongside an existing Windows 7 installation, but I chose not to install Ubuntu's boot loader for various reasons.  When I power on my computer, Windows 7 loads, which is how I want it.  I want to manually boot the Ubuntu system from the installation disc.  Is this possible?  Are there options that I can specify in "Boot Options"?  Any information would be...
[05:39] <lstarnes> D9: that doesn't apply to 9.10
[05:39] <cb1147> ...greatly appreciated.
[05:39] <vajorie> *have not been (relatively)
[05:39] <lstarnes> D9: which intel card are you using?
[05:40] <sircrazy> vajorie: that actually sounds like what i want. :D
[05:40] <sircrazy> what you described
[05:40] <sircrazy> thank you
[05:40] <pyro2927> I just installed ubuntu succesfully, but now during my boot up it hangs on "PREFETCH window"
[05:40] <pyro2927> does anyone know how to fix that?
[05:40] <leetom> baltadt: it's ok now:
[05:41] <vinnie_> did freenode do something new? saying my router is buggy. Whats up with that?
[05:41] <Tiders> How does KDE work with dual displays
[05:41] <lstarnes> vinnie_: you were banned from this channel because your router was vulnerable to the DCC exploit
[05:41] <pvl1> Tiders, wat do u nean
[05:41] <Tiders> Like will it work okay?
[05:41] <Tiders> pvl1, Will it work okay*
[05:42] <pvl1> Tiders, depends on ue card
[05:42] <Tiders> pvl1, Nvidia
[05:42] <vinnie_> lstarnes: i changed to port 80001 and the 'test me' and now im back.
[05:42] <lstarnes> vinnie_: that should work around the exploit
[05:42] <pvl1> Tiders, should be fine. i have an ati and runs flawlessly
[05:42] <blurk> Can anyone help me install "http://brsev.deviantart.com/art/Token-128429570?offset=100#comments"? =)
[05:42] <baltadt> leetom: no I cant figure out how to get it back
[05:42] <blurk> Can't get em to work
[05:43] <D9> If I want to down load a driver package is this the correct syntax? apt-get install (package name)?
[05:43] <vinnie_> lstarnes: should i go ahead and upgrade my firmware?
[05:43] <vajorie> sircrazy: you're welcome :)
[05:43] <lstarnes> D9: it depends on the package name
[05:43] <Tiders> pvl1, Will I be losing anything by switching to Kubuntu? Performance wise etc
[05:43] <lstarnes> D9: but it is sudo apt-get install packagename
[05:43] <D9> lstarnes, is there anything else I need?
[05:44] <pvl1> Tiders, not that i know off. i keep gnome and kde, they seem to run the same
[05:44] <lstarnes> D9: other than the name of the package, no
[05:44] <D9> ok
[05:45] <vajorie> D9: what's the driver you wanna get? perhaps someone here knows something tipsy about that...
[05:45] <Tiders> pvl1, If I wanted to install the KDE environment onto my box alongside GNOME could I do that and then remove ALL KDE stuff easily if I dont like?
[05:45] <DaskreeCh> Tiders: yes
[05:45] <lstarnes> Tiders: it can be a bit tricky though
[05:45] <pvl1> Tiders, idk about the easily part but yes
[05:45] <DaskreeCh> lstarnes: no it's not
[05:45] <DaskreeCh>  it's a hell of a lot easier than removing Gnome
[05:46] <pvl1> Tiders, oh if all then yes
[05:46] <vajorie> Tiders: if you install it using aptitude, I believe removing it would be very easy
[05:46] <Tiders> Would I just do sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop?
[05:46] <freemind> Hi all, I would like to know how many sata drives linux can support on x86 arch ?
[05:46] <DaskreeCh> sudo apt-get remove kdelibs5 kubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get autoremove
[05:47] <DaskreeCh> freemind: Somewhere in the region of 700,000
[05:47] <Tiders> DaskreeCh, Thanks
[05:47] <vajorie> Tiders: nope, apt-get would just remove that one meta-package. install with sudo aptitude install whatever
[05:47] <goose> how can I get my system to automagically mount an additional internal hard drive on startup?
[05:47] <Tiders> vajorie, Sudo apt-get and aptitude are different?  I thought apt-get was just a front end
[05:47] <vajorie> Tiders: and remove with sudo aptitude remove whatever (same package name, so that it can remember what it installed alongside "whatever")
[05:47] <freemind> DaskreeCh, so... the limit is only the hardware limit?  If I add enough controler cards ?
[05:47] <DaskreeCh> goose: automagically mount it where?
[05:48] <vajorie> Tiders: aptitude is a bit more intelligent :p
[05:48] <goose> DaskreeCh: /media/space
[05:48] <baltadt> leetom: got it back
[05:48] <DaskreeCh> freemind: no there is a limit. I doubt a single human will ever hit it though
[05:48] <DaskreeCh> !fstab | goose
[05:48] <goose> DaskreeCh: it's an extra internal HD I use for all my various media stuff
[05:48] <vajorie> !aptitude
[05:49] <goose> DaskreeCh: although I can't "find" it through /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab -- I can only mount it by going to "Computer" and double clicking "298.1 GB Volume"
[05:49] <baltadt> leetom: it still says fatal server error: server is already active for display 0....when typied sudo startx
[05:49] <D9> Vajorie, thanks.  I got the driver... It think.  it jsut the basic intel drivers that come pre loaded.
[05:50] <Mr_Lordi> goose: yes, xchat FTW
[05:50] <DaskreeCh> goose: Add it to fstab and it will mount it every boot
[05:50] <i_is_broke> ok im trying to learn python, and i have typed in the command to help and then type in the help section modules and my screen goes blank and then turns white and the only thing i can do is reboot? why?
[05:51] <DaskreeCh> freemind: Sort of like the limit it has on RAM is 16 Exabytes
[05:51] <DaskreeCh> There is a limit but if you hit it then you have waaaaaaaaaay too much money
[05:51] <sarthorks> my cpu fan seems to be malfunctioning. I have cleaned out all the dirt, but even now, during booting, at the splash screen, the fan suddenly starts blowing, and the computer just goes off. if after a few attempts, the fan doesn't start up at splash screen, my hardy loads fine.
[05:51] <Mr_Lordi> i_is_broke: try typing quit
[05:51] <baltadt> leetom: still there?
[05:52] <i_is_broke> Mr_Lordi, when i get the white screen?
[05:52] <Mr_Lordi> i_is_broke: pm me
[05:53] <vajorie> sarthorks: did you try booting with stuff like acpi=off?
[05:54] <brijith> mobile broad band connection fails
[05:54] <sarthorks> vajorie : could you be more specific. i am not at all familiar with all this.
[05:54] <baltadt> anyone know about vnc
[05:54] <brijith> Help me please
[05:54] <vajorie> sarthorks: give me a second
[05:54] <sarthorks> vajorie: sure
[05:54] <DaskreeCh> Does anyone have any insight as to why do-release-upgrade would fail with no new release found on Jaunty at this time ?
[05:55] <DaskreeCh> baltadt:  a more xplicit question perhaps?
[05:55] <baltadt> daskreech: try ... sudo apt-get update
[05:56] <baltadt> daskreech: i can access server but it only shows terminal. I try startx and it says fatal server error
[05:56] <baltadt> daskreech: same with sudo startx
[05:57] <DaskreeCh> baltadt: What's the server error?
[05:57] <sarthorks> vajorie: did you mean something on the lines of : http://paste.ubuntu.com/344015/
[05:57] <goose> DaskreeCh: that worked, except that I don't own /media/space, and "sudo chown -R goose /media/space" isn't fixing it :/
[05:58] <DaskreeCh> goose: You mean you don't own the drive now that it's mounted?
[05:58] <baltadt> DaskreeCh: server is already active for display 0
[05:58] <DaskreeCh>  how much security do you need on it?
[05:58] <goose> DaskreeCh: exactly
[05:58] <goose> I can't write to it
[05:58] <vajorie> sarthorks: when the computer boots to *grub*, before it actually boots Ubuntu, press e. What you want to do is to follow the direction at the end of the screen to find the line in your very first grub entry that starts like this: "kernel /boot/vmlinuz .....". at the end of that line, add acpi=off, so it looks like this "........... ro quiet splash acpi=off", then press b to boot that entry. this is temporary; editing the menu.li
[05:58] <DaskreeCh> baltadt: you have X running already
[05:59] <DaskreeCh> goose: I know that. Does it matter if other people can write to it?
[05:59] <baltadt> i dont know...how to tell
[05:59] <goose> DaskreeCh: I'm the only user on the box
[05:59] <DaskreeCh> or must it be that only you can use it?
[05:59] <goose> chmod 777?
[05:59] <DaskreeCh> under options in fstab add umask=0022
[05:59] <DaskreeCh> then reboot or run sudo mount -a --remount
[06:00] <vajorie> sarthorks: it's been a while since I did any edits to my grub on the fly, so pay attention to the tips that the screen provides you about editing grub entries while on the grub menu
[06:00] <baltadt> DaskreeCh: i dont think so. how do I tell
[06:00] <sarthorks> vajorie: thanks a lot.
[06:01] <vajorie> sarthorks: I hope it works
[06:01] <DaskreeCh> baltadt: ps aux | grep -i X
[06:02] <goose> DaskreeCh: it didn't like umask=0022 :/ fails to mount
[06:03] <baltadt> DaskreeCh: got a screen full after that
[06:03] <mamooli> hello, does anyone knows how can i find php.ini file in a defult instalation of ubuntu?
[06:04] <goose> huh
[06:04] <ardchoil1e> mamooli: sudo updatedb && locate php.ini
[06:04] <goose> DaskreeCh: it fixed itself when I set flags back to "defaults"
[06:04] <goose> thanks though :D
[06:04] <DaskreeCh> baltadt: pastebin it
[06:04] <DaskreeCh> !paste
[06:06] <Zeppelin> hi
[06:07] <willluongo> hi Zeppelin
[06:07] <jason_> DaskreeCh: root        24  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   Dec13   0:00 [ata_aux]
[06:07] <jason_> jason    10251  0.0  0.2  11128  7008 ?        S    21:59   0:00 Xvnc :1 -desktop jason-desktop:1 (jason) -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-jason-u9Cwia/database -geometry 1024x768 -depth 16 -rfbwait 30000 -rfbauth /home/jason/.vnc/passwd -rfbport 5901 -pn -extension XFIXES
[06:07] <jason_> jason    10862  0.0  0.2  11092  6788 ?        S    22:14   0:00 Xvnc :2 -desktop jason-desktop:2 (jason) -auth /home/jason/.Xauthority -geometry 1024x768 -depth 16 -rfbwait 30000 -rfbauth /home/jason/.vnc/passwd -rfbport 5902 -pn -extension XFIXES
[06:07] <jason_> root     12317  0.2  1.1  45276 34692 tty7     Ss+  22:45   0:02 /usr/bin/X :0 -br -verbose -auth /var/run/gdm/auth-for-gdm-K2YWxx/database -nolisten tcp
[06:07] <FloodBot4> jason_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:07] <Zeppelin> I downloaded what pulse and extracted the file to my desktop.
[06:07] <Zeppelin> the file is called 32bit. i run the executable file and whatpulse runs
[06:07] <Zeppelin> i want to add whatpulse to the applications menu somehow
[06:08] <Tiders> How do I make fonts not display TINY in Kubuntu
[06:08] <illy> Hello, could someone help me?
[06:09] <illy> Could someone help me please?
[06:09] <DaskreeCh> yes
[06:09] <hiatus> Tiders: in ubuntu you can adjust all the fonts in the appearance settings
[06:09] <ardchoil1e> !ask | illy
[06:09] <illy> Oh, sorry. Will do.
[06:10] <illy> I just downloaded Ubuntu, as a partition with Windows 7, and was trying to set up my internet connection. But it will not recognize that I have a wireless internet? I can do wired, but wireless won't show up. What do I do?
[06:11] <illy> Anybody got an answer?
[06:11] <sebsebseb> !wireless | illy
[06:12] <baltadt> ok I give upfor tonight
[06:12] <hiatus> Illy: if you do not have drivers available in hardware drivers. You can you ndiswrapper to install your windows drivers although it can be a little technical
[06:12] <sebsebseb> illy: Did you install with Wubi?  If so well, real partitions are better in the long run.
[06:13] <illy> Hiatus, also, I cannot install any packages for some reason. They can not be found. Sebsebseb, no, I downloaded the .iso onto a CD, and then reboot'ed and installed via that.
[06:13] <hiatus> Illy: worse comes to worse, you can buy a cheap taiwanese wireless adepter. They always work
[06:13] <sebsebseb> illy: ok
[06:13] <illy> Hiatus, how much are they in USD? And could you provide a link? and what do they do?
[06:13] <sebsebseb> hiatus: well maybe not always
[06:14] <sebsebseb> !hardware
[06:14] <illy> And, also, I really cant downlaod ANY packages, what can I do about that?
[06:14] <hiatus> Well, almost always
[06:14] <DoubleDose> whats the difference between regular ubuntu and linux mint?
[06:14] <sebsebseb> !mint  | DoubleDose
[06:15] <hiatus> Illy: what error do you get?
[06:15] <DoubleDose> guess ill google it
[06:15] <illy> Hiatus, It reads everything, but then says E: Can not find package _____.
[06:15] <PratikAnand> hi...I installed open office 3.1.1 on 9.04...every time I open it , it recursively enters into doc recovery mode...what shud I do?
[06:16] <sebsebseb> illy: when your wired?
[06:16] <illy> Yes^
[06:16] <illy> Unwired too.
[06:16] <sarthorks> vajorie: hooray! it seems to work! should i make the change in menu.lst itself?
[06:17] <sebsebseb> illy: maybe the server your getting from is having problems at the moment. it's also possible to change the server
[06:17] <illy> How do I change the server? I was using the main server, I think.
[06:17] <hiatus> Illy: mmm, its trying to find your packages from your cd. You need to stop it by removing a bit from a xml file. I forget which one. Someone else could probably tell ya. Its fairly easy
[06:17] <altf2o> so i thought i would be security minded and check out SELinux, installed it (sort of) of course it crashed, i rebooted and found no difference. Unfortunately the documentation on it on Ubuntu's site is thin. Now i keep getting a crash when trying to reinstall Apparmor instead. Anyone have any success with SELinux in Ubuntu 9.10?
[06:17] <Zolo> I should sleeeeeeeeeep now
[06:18] <illy> Hiatus, could you direct me to someone who could tell me?
[06:18] <sebsebseb> illy: have a look at how things are set up, this is also where you can change the server/mirror if you want to  system > administration > software sources
[06:18] <illy> hm..OK.
[06:19] <Kemsei> Hey.
[06:19] <sebsebseb> Kemsei: hi
[06:19] <illy> I need to find a way to get my wireless on though first. I use a Linksys router, but it wont recognize it. I tried installing the drivers, but make Makefile would not work, as it was a partial makefile, what should I do?
[06:19] <hiatus> Illy: if someone from here doesn't know, someone from the forums does. I had the same issue once
[06:19] <Kemsei> Illy. Do you use a PC or a laptop?
[06:19] <KB1JWQ> illy: Shouldn't be dependant uponyour router model.
[06:20] <vinnie_> router firmware upgrade worked.. im back on port 6667 :)
[06:20] <illy> Hiatus, alright, but forums are really slow responders. Kemsei, Laptop. Kb1, thought that myself.
[06:20] <KB1JWQ> illy: What happens when you attempt to associate?
[06:20] <Kemsei> Ah.
[06:20] <blurk> Anyone know how i get http://brsev.deviantart.com/art/Token-128429570?offset=100#comments to work? i unziped it and made a tar file, but when i load it it sais that it's not a valid theme
[06:20] <sebsebseb> illy: some how you can probably get a native Linux driver working for the wireless :)  also  got the Windows driver?  if so ndiswarpper should be able to do that, and that can be installed from the CD some how
[06:20] <illy> Kb1, It just doesnt recognize that I have a internet connection around me.
[06:21] <Kemsei> Hm...
[06:21] <sebsebseb> illy: that's Ndiswrapper
[06:21] <Kemsei> I don't know what to think of that, I might need to look it up.
[06:22] <illy> Er, could you explain to me about ndiswrapper? Does it install the drivers automatically to recognize the connection? And, I had the problem where I can't install stuff. How would I get it then?
[06:22] <illy> And lol kemsei =p
[06:22] <Kemsei> :P
[06:22] <dnivra_> i use karmic koala and used to connect to internet using pppoeconf. how do i switch to network manager to connect to DSL: network manager says "device not managed"?
[06:22] <Zelest> what's a good tool to benchmark/test how fast I can read and/or write to my disk?
[06:22] <Kemsei> I'm not really an expert on the hardware stuff, so.
[06:23] <bbalajirao> nick
[06:23] <sebsebseb> illy: it uses the inf file or whatever it was from the Windows driver and then it's set up to use it in Ndiswrapper.  anyway uhm  wireless isn't really my area, so good luck,  and other people will be able to  help you get it working in Ubuntu, I expect
[06:23] <illy> ok seb =/
[06:24] <sarthorks> vajorie : it seems to be work. should i make the change in menu.lst?
[06:24] <Kemsei> Does anybody know of an alternative for Adobe Shockwave player for Ubuntu?
[06:24] <sheena1> i need to change permissions on a flash drive, and although i know how to do it with the GUI, i need sudo permissions, so i need terminal directions. help?
[06:25] <illy> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1360429 Those are my problems, could someone look at that and post/tell me here?
[06:25] <sheena1> Kemsei: I tried to get shockwave working on 8.10, wouldnt work at all.
[06:25] <sebsebseb> !permissions | sheena1
[06:25] <illy> Please respond telling me if you will look at that.
[06:26] <Kemsei> Alright. So there are probably no known alternatives?
[06:26] <ae86-drifter> hi
[06:26] <sheena1> sebsebseb: pm me? :)
[06:26] <sebsebseb> illy: try here a bit later on, if you don't get anywhere here now
[06:27] <illy> ok.
[06:27] <illy> i'll go try what you said, by changing the server im gettin packages from, and then try ndiswrapper (did i spell right?)
[06:28] <illy> in terminal to get ndiswrapper, i should use 'sudo alt-get install ndiswrapper' right?
[06:28] <illy> And, whats a good fast reliable server to get the packages from? I was using 'Main server'.
[06:28] <sebsebseb> illy: sudo apt-get
[06:28] <ozzloy> my "Applications | Places | System" bar is behind all my windows, how do i fix that?
[06:28] <sebsebseb> !info ndiswrapper
[06:28] <sebsebseb> hmm
[06:28] <ozzloy> i have it set to autohide
[06:28] <illy> it doesnt exist in karmic..?
[06:29] <sebsebseb> illy: have a look at the bot wireless help stuff,  II got it to give you earlier, that will help
[06:29] <ozzloy> which it does when it should, but then it doesn't come back above all the other windows
[06:29] <[BIOS]arvind> i use karmic koala and used to connect to internet using pppoeconf. how do i switch to network manager to connect to DSL: network manager says "device not managed"?
[06:29] <sebsebseb> illy: it does, but you might have to enable some special repo for it or something
[06:29] <[BIOS]arvind> thing is i used pppoeconf till now but deleted the config file in /etc/ppp/peers accidently
[06:29] <illy> Hm, do you know a repo for it? And i looked, didnt help at all.
[06:29] <friendishan> any good cheap or free vpn service for ubuntu 9.04 ?
[06:30] <illy> Sebsebseb,  Hm, do you know a repo for it? And i looked, didnt help at all.
[06:31] <friendishan> any good cheap or free vpn service for ubuntu 9.04 ?
[06:31] <MenZa> !ot > friendishan
[06:32] <friendishan> menza so that means there is no vpn service by ubuntu for ubuntu ?
[06:32] <MenZa> It means this isn't the place to ask.
[06:32] <illy> Does anyone here know a repository for Ndiswrapper?
[06:32] <sebsebseb> illy: you should try and get it working natively really first
[06:33] <MenZa> illy: ndiswraper is both on the CD and the Ubuntu main repository.
[06:33] <friendishan> menza : it seems that i am at the right place cause this is a query related to ubuntu
[06:33] <illy> MenZa, I couldnt find it when I was doing 'sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper' from the main server.
[06:33] <friendishan> menza: i also want a vpn service and instructions on how to install it
[06:33] <friendishan> any good cheap or free vpn service for ubuntu 9.04 ?
[06:33] <turkeyshoot> configure: error: Cannot find pam
[06:33] <MenZa> friendishan: This is for Ubuntu support, nothing like that.
[06:33] <MenZa> illy: It's definitely on there.
[06:33] <sheena1> im trying to change the permissions on a flash drive. i tried gksudo nautilus, and it wont work. help?
[06:34] <illy> Well, it told me it could not find it. Know any fixes for it?
[06:34] <sebsebseb> MenZa: illy probably doesn't even need ndiswrapper, they are new to Ubuntu,  they want to configure their wireless
[06:34] <MenZa> friendishan: Please stop going offtopic.
[06:34] <MenZa> sebsebseb: Ah alright--I just responded to the question :)
[06:34] <altf2o> OpenVPN or OpenSwan are good places to start for VPN.
[06:34] <illy> Excactly what sebsebseb, I just got ubuntu today.
[06:34] <MenZa> altf2o: He's looking for a provider, which is offtopic for this channel.
[06:35] <turkeyshoot> anyone know how to correct this config error  configure: error: Cannot find pam
[06:35] <illy> Sebsebseb. Do you know any fixes for my problem that Ive talked to you about?
[06:35] <skitzo> hey guys im trying to install x64 flash to firefox i found a site which had a script for ubuntu to install it anyways its installed now but its crashing my firefox and i've dug myself into a hole as i cant uninstall it now :((
[06:35] <turkeyshoot> i think i need to copy pam_authenticate to a library directory, not sure where tho
[06:36] <sebsebseb> illy: I am on the verge of leaving here,  first of al you should read the bot wireless link really, so you understand more about wireless on Ubuntu
[06:36] <sebsebseb> !wireless | illy
[06:36] <illy> I have already read all of it :(
[06:37] <illy> Dell Wireless 1395 WLAN Mini-Card is what my wireless card is btw. And Ubuntu says that I do not have a WLAN connection?
[06:37] <sheena1> im trying to change the permissions on a flash drive. i tried gksudo nautilus, and it wont work. help?
[06:37] <openros> I upgraded, from ubuntu 9.04 to 9.10, my wireless stopped working. i ddint some googling and installed some modules. Now my computer detects the wireless, but doesnt connect even if i give the right key
[06:38] <chalcedny> i know this isn't GIMP, but nobody is there, could anyone tell us how to make 4 image spaces on a page?
[06:38] <d9500> skitzo, welcome back. what happened?
[06:38] <illy> Chalc, that would make you have to have 4 mirrors.
[06:39] <illy> Wait, do you mean 4 of the same? and when you change one, it changes all?
[06:39] <illy> Sebsebseb, are you still there? I found the problem, but need your help for a few seconds too.
[06:39] <chalcedny> illy, no i only can print 1 picture per page... i will save ink by printing 4 images
[06:39] <sebsebseb> illy: hmm
[06:40] <illy> Oh, collage the 4 images into one image, then print them.
[06:40] <chalcedny> umm no
[06:40] <illy> sebsebseb, I found out that since mine is a WLAN WPA connection, I have to set it up.
[06:40] <illy> by my self o.o
[06:40] <chalcedny> illy, i have about 50 photos that i need to print 5 copies each of...
[06:40] <illy> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WLANHowTo
[06:40] <sebsebseb> illy: ok well I don't know how you would set it up
[06:40] <sri_> how to configure the apache in ubuntu?
[06:40] <chalcedny> 4 different pictures per page illy
[06:40] <illy> But, it refers me to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WPAHowTo, yet that isn't made yet?
[06:41] <skitzo> found some script for ubuntu that installs it properly for ubuntu which i tryed following must of missed something cause now its installed, but crashing.. and theres no plugin folder in firefox to find that flash extension to delete it :( such a headache
[06:41] <illy> Sebsebseb, I just need help on that last part ^^ the page they refer me too is not made yet.
[06:41] <sebsebseb> illy: well then I guess it's not there or something
[06:42] <dnivra_> i deleted the file for connecting to DSL used by pon/poff. can someone tell me how to recover the file created using pppoeconf. i ran pppoeconf again but it said "access concentrator of your provider did not respond".
[06:42] <illy> Yeah =s
[06:42] <illy> Oh, found it. They refered the wrong page.
[06:42] <illy> Thanks for all your help sebsebseb ^^ and others in here.
[06:43] <chalcedny> illy, glad you found what you were looking for
[06:43] <sheena1> im trying to change the permissions on a flash drive. i tried gksudo nautilus, and it wont work. help?
[06:43] <illy> =D Time to write down like 4 pages of text, and go try it -cheers-
[06:43] <chalcedny> :)
[06:43] <chalcedny> i still need help printing 4 photos in gimp
[06:43] <sebsebseb> illy: that's a good idea, first try and help yourself and get it configured,  then if your still stuck,  well try in a few hours or so again here,  and there may be someone that can help you properly
[06:44] <d9500> skitzo, can you pastebin the script?
[06:44] <switchcat_> greetings, I need to download some packages (on windows) to transfer over to a new install of ubuntu 9.04 to get it online.. currently using public access points and the new install's wireless setup doesn't seem to like to recognize/find these points.  What software packages should I d/l & install to (hopefully) make these connections quick and easy?  thanks.
[06:44] <willluongo> skitzo:
[06:44] <willluongo> locate libflashplayer.so
[06:44] <willluongo> or
[06:44] <illy> Okay, thanks sebsebseb. and could you tell me how to find out my SSID?
[06:44] <willluongo> in your browser go to about:plugins
[06:44] <illy> Isn't the SSID the name of the WLAN?
[06:45] <willluongo> it will tell you the name of the flash plugin they installed
[06:45] <willluongo> you can locate that
[06:45] <willluongo> and get rid of it
[06:45] <FloodBot4> willluongo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:45] <willluongo> oops sorry
[06:45] <sebsebseb> illy: the name of your wireless I think yeah
[06:45] <chalcedny> use <enter> less
[06:45] <illy> Thanks
[06:45] <willluongo> chalcedny: yeah I got that, thanks
[06:45] <chalcedny> :)
[06:46] <skitzo> d9500, #!/bin/bash
[06:46] <skitzo> # Script  created by
[06:46] <skitzo> # Romeo-Adrian Cioaba romeo.cioaba@spotonearth.com
[06:46] <skitzo> echo "Stopping any Firefox that might be running"
[06:46] <skitzo> sudo killall -9 firefox
[06:46] <FloodBot4> skitzo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:46] <skitzo> echo "Removing any other flash plugin previously installed:"
[06:46] <willluongo> lol
[06:48] <d9500> skitzo, use pastebin.com or paste.ubuntu.com, and paste the script in one of those. just pasting it in the channel 9as I found out the first time i tried to use IRC for tech support) is a good way to irritate people, and maybe get temporarily banned.
[06:49] <willluongo> also don't press enter a lot :D
[06:49] <geirha> skitzo: The KILL signal should ideally never be used, and definately not before first trying the TERM signal.
[06:50] <sheena1> im trying to change the permissions on a flash drive. i tried gksudo nautilus, and it wont work. help?
[06:50] <willluongo> sheena1: what file system is the flash drive?
[06:50] <skitzo> :(
[06:51] <willluongo> skitzo: did you open about:plugins in your browser?
[06:51] <meatbun> how to start radius server?
[06:51] <sheena1> willluongo: im not sure. it says "msdos" on the properties menu. it has been used and the files on it are a boot system for Netbook Remix..
[06:51] <willluongo> ah that is most likely why
[06:51] <sheena1> willluongo: so its worked on ubuntu before, ext3
[06:51] <sheena1> willluongo: can you help me fix it?
[06:51] <willluongo> if it is ntfs, or fat32 you can't use linux permissions
[06:52] <willluongo> what what does sudo fdisk -l show?
[06:52] <anom01y> general computer question: why are my ram chips rated at 533 mhz, (ddr2), but in bios they say (for each chip) ddr2 1gb/533 (266mhz)
[06:53] <anom01y> what is the 266 mhz? I thought they where 533 mhz.
[06:53] <sheena1> willluongo:  /dev/sdb1   *           1        1022     1964253    c  W95 FAT32 (LBA)
[06:53] <sheena1> i think
[06:53] <willluongo> yep that is it
[06:53] <willluongo> :)
[06:53] <sheena1> is it fixable?
[06:53] <willluongo> do you need it to be visible by windows machines?
[06:53] <sheena1> nope.
[06:53] <Sacho> I'm trying to install the kdebase-runtime package for a couple of kde programs on ubuntu jaunty, but I'm getting this error: http://pastebin.com/d73d15ce5   Could someone give me a tip or something on how to resolve that issue and install the package?
[06:53] <sheena1> well
[06:54] <sheena1> acutally, maybe i do
[06:54] <sheena1> i was hoping to put some photos on it to take to a store to be printed..
[06:54] <willluongo> in that case, it is probably best to leave it FAT32
[06:54] <sheena1> i;ve used lots of flash drives before, though, and never had this problem..
[06:54] <willluongo> is it telling you that you don't have permission?
[06:54] <sheena1> yes
[06:54] <willluongo> try doing it as root or sudo
[06:54] <skitzo> found the flash file it wont let me delete
[06:55] <sheena1> i ran gksudo nautilus, it still told me no permission
[06:55] <skitzo> plugin i should say
[06:55] <willluongo> skitzo: you will probably need to sudo
[06:55] <sheena1> willluongo: i'm fairly new at ubuntu, and don't know the terminal commands to do it via sudo in terminal..
[06:56] <willluongo> you can gksu your file manager of choice :)
[06:56] <sheena1> i ran gksudo nautilus, it still told me no permission
[06:56] <betz> Morning!
[06:56] <willluongo> sheena1: it is just gksu
[06:57] <willluongo> i think
[06:57] <sheena1> oka
[06:57] <sheena1> willluongo: Sorry, could not change the permissions of "4299-94E9": Error setting permissions: Read-only file system
[06:57] <willluongo> sheena1: ah
[06:58] <willluongo> that is a different issue altogether :)
[06:58] <sheena1> willluongo: im sooo frustrated
[06:58] <willluongo> I wonder why it is mounted read only
[06:58] <sheena1> is this repairable?
[06:58] <willluongo> more than likely :)
[06:58] <sheena1> lol! i have no idea why! i thought maybe because of the boot files?
[06:58] <sheena1> but im too n00b to have any idea
[06:58] <willluongo> how did you mount it?
[06:58] <betz> Would it be possible to expand a linux partition with extra free space? I have ubuntu running but need more space. Now i want to allocate free space on my hd to this linux partition. Is this possible without losing all current data?
[06:59] <willluongo> betz: yes
[06:59] <willluongo> you can do it with gparted
[06:59] <MenZa> betz: Certainly. Pop in a LiveCD, fire up gparted, and resize it.
[06:59] <willluongo> from a live cd
[06:59] <sheena1> i plugged it in, willluongo
[06:59] <willluongo> did you try unplugging it and replugging it in?
[06:59] <betz> aha, very cool
[06:59] <sheena1> doing that now
[06:59] <betz> thanks everyone!
[06:59] <skitzo> okay its all uninstalled again back to square one lol
[06:59] <betz> ^^
[07:00] <Liverbones> hey guys, got a serious problem: can't boot into my system. Boot stops about 2 seconds in with an error: "run-init: /etc/init: Permission Denied." Haven't changed any permissions. Anyone know of a way to fix this?
[07:00] <turkeyshoot> where can i find pam-devel?
[07:00] <sheena1> willluongo: tried, no change. will try another usb socket
[07:02] <sheena1> willluongo: no change.
[07:02] <skitzo> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/install-flash-10-ubuntu-linux-64bit.html#comment-150888 ---> i found this script for installing x64 flash... can somebody tell me if it will work please im pulling my hair out lol
[07:02] <willluongo> skitzo: have you tried apt?
[07:03] <FireCrotch> sheena1: Just curious... are you using the USB ports on the front of your computer or the back?
[07:03] <willluongo> sheena1: if you run the command mount, what does it say?
[07:03] <sheena1> FireCrotch: its a laptop. i have one on the right and two on the left. tried a right and left one
[07:03] <skitzo> willluongo, apt?
[07:03] <willluongo> skitzo: aptitude search flash
[07:04] <oCean_> !info libpam0g-dev | turkeyshoot i think this is what you are looking for
[07:04] <sheena1> willluongo: i believe this is the relevant bit: /dev/sdb1 on /media/4299-94E9 type vfat(rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=devkit,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,flush)
[07:04] <willluongo> you should see something like flashplugin-nonfree
[07:04] <willluongo> !flash
[07:04] <willluongo> !info flash
[07:04] <turkeyshoot> yes, that is most likely it, thank you
[07:04] <willluongo> sheena1: that is strange, it looks like it is mounted correctly, read and write
[07:04] <xpololz> Anyone who can help me set up GFORTH-0.7.0 on ubuntu?
[07:04] <willluongo> is it full?
[07:05] <sheena1> willluongo: nope, says it has 1.2 out of 2 gb free
[07:06] <mint> Hi, from terminal, I can't get nautilus.  Can someone help me get it going?
[07:07] <ubuntu89889> hello
[07:07] <sheena1> willluongo: it worked just fine a few days ago... this is the pc that put the files on the drive.. but since, i've upgraded to 9.10.. that shouldnt matter?
[07:07] <baz_> Hi, I am trying to SSHFS into my server but I keep receiving the error "connection reset by peer". I can SSH in there without problem, and I have searched google but the fixes don't seem to apply to me. Does anyone have any idea how to debug this?
[07:07] <ubuntu89889> I am getting a white screen and no desk top.  What could the problem be?
[07:08] <willluongo> sheena1: it could I suppose.
[07:08] <oCean_> ubuntu89889:  wait - is the problem you can't get nautilus or you can't get desktop??
[07:08] <d9500> skitzo, that script just does what running "sudo aptitude purge [enter names of all installed flash packages here] && sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer" in terminal would have done, that is, get rid of all existing flash packages, download the 32-bit flash player, nspluginswrapper, and the required 32-bit libraries to run flash 32-bit on x64, and installs them. if you want the x64 edition, as I mentioned before, you have to download it from Ad
[07:08] <d9500> obe's site.
[07:08] <sheena1> willluongo: is there a way to override it and format it?
[07:08] <sheena1> using bios or something?
[07:08] <willluongo> sheena1: yeah you could reformat it
[07:09] <willluongo> copy all your old stuff off first, I'd imagine :)
[07:09] <ubuntu89889> both
[07:09] <sheena1> willluongo: its only got the netbook remix on it. i dont care if i loose it.
[07:09] <sheena1> willluongo: but i have no idea how to format it..
[07:09] <ubuntu89889> ocean, when I try to boot up, i put in my password and then I get a white screen. and nothing else.
[07:09] <d9500> skitzo, but it seems like flash in general doesn't get along with your firefox install
[07:09] <xpololz> Anyone who can help me set up GFORTH-0.7.0 on ubuntu?
[07:10] <willluongo> sheena1: umount /media/4299-94E9
[07:10] <willluongo> then cfdisk /dev/sdb1
[07:10] <tstebut> Hello
[07:10] <g_giulio> hi guys, i've cancel some like 10gb in a microsecond only push shift when i push delete...but kubuntu REALLY erase this file?thanks
[07:10] <ubuntu89889> ocean, when I boot to terminal, and try to fire up nautilus in terminal it says "no command found"
[07:10] <willluongo> oops" then cfdisk /dev/sdb
[07:10] <skitzo> i just dont get it i reinstalled it from software center and i've just installed a fresh copy of ubuntu and people are saying it works :(
[07:10] <sheena1> willluongo: gave me a VERY scary fatal error screen
[07:11] <brianherman> Can you run a wireless router with a ndiswrapper wireless card?
[07:11] <ubuntu89889> Ocean, I tried to boot in safe mode and do the graphic fix.  nothin
[07:11] <willluongo> that's because I gave you the wrong command :)
[07:11] <willluongo> you'll need to do sudo cfdisk /dev/sdb
[07:11] <ubuntu89889> ocean, what do you think?
[07:11] <skitzo> i'll just keep trying thanks anyways i don't like giving up haha
[07:11] <willluongo> sorry about that sheena1
[07:11] <willluongo> skitzo: did you try aptget?
[07:11] <sheena1> willluongo: got it now, but no idea what to do with this screen :)
[07:12] <willluongo> select delete
[07:12] <willluongo> then new
[07:12] <ubuntu89889> oCean_: what do you think?
[07:12] <sheena1> primary?
[07:12] <willluongo> create a fat32 partition
[07:12] <willluongo> yeah
[07:13] <ubuntu89889> oCean_: you there?
[07:14] <sheena1> its all still there! :(
[07:14] <sheena1> i musta screwed up?
[07:14] <ubuntu89889> hmmmmm i think windows 7 is looking better and better
[07:14] <d00gie> hello i have an application question.  i need to downsize a batch of .jpegs, which program would be best?  ie. 1600x1200 to 1024x786 for online image hosting...  thanks in advance!
[07:14] <oCean_> ubuntu89889: running nautilus when there is no desktop makes no sense. First you have to get your desktop running
[07:14] <willluongo> sheena1: probably just didn't apply your changes :)
[07:15] <sheena1> i think so. i thinkWrite is the command for that?
[07:15] <willluongo> yeah
[07:15] <ubuntu89889> ok, how do I do that.
[07:15] <ubuntu89889> oCean_: ok, how do I do that?
[07:15] <oCean_> ubuntu89889: i'm no expert in that. Be sure to tell the channel what you have done so far, which version you are running etc. More details can help solve the issue
[07:16] <sheena1> okay. i did write.. anything after that? cause it still didnt work.. willluongo
[07:16] <ubuntu89889> oCean_: do you know how to turn off compz in the terminal
[07:16] <willluongo> sheena1: it didn't format your flash drive?
[07:16] <oCean_> ubuntu89889: not a clue
[07:16] <sheena1> nope, and now even the commands you gave me wont work
[07:16] <ubuntu89889> sad
[07:17] <willluongo> strang
[07:17] <willluongo> e
[07:17] <willluongo> what does sudo fdisk -l say?
[07:17] <colemickens> Anyone recommend a cross platform media player that is better than iTunes?
[07:17] <ubuntu89889> windows 7... works so well.  I love it.
[07:17] <willluongo> colemickens: songbird is the only cross platform one I know of
[07:17] <ubuntu89889> I never thought I would think a windows version was good.  LOL  but after linux.
[07:17] <sheena1> willluongo: /dev/sdc1               1        1022     1964253    b  W95 FAT32
[07:17] <willluongo> but I think almost anything is better than itunes
[07:18] <colemickens> willluongo, yeah, It requires importing as well (I'm trying to find one that avoid that)
[07:18] <willluongo> sheena1: sudo cfdisk /dev/sdc
[07:18] <willluongo> colemickens: what are you trying to do?
[07:18] <sheena1> ok that worked. now do it agian?
[07:19] <sheena1> it looks formatted, on the screen
[07:19] <colemickens> willluongo (well truth be told) I have a mac and I'm trying to find a good alternative to itunes. Itunes refuses to close and reopen and remember my music
[07:19] <willluongo> ok if it is formatted, can you copy files onto it now?
[07:19] <colemickens> even after I waited 2 hours to import it earlier today
[07:19] <sheena1> when opened, it still shows many files in int
[07:20] <willluongo> hrm... it doesn't sound like it was formatted then sheena1
[07:20] <turkeyshoot> im having trouble getting rid of this configure error "pam_misc_setenv in -lpam_misc... no"
[07:20] <sheena1> okay. i will try agian, willluongo
[07:21] <datz> Hi, I just noticed that on my upper panel, there is a user switching applet, there are status there as well...just wondering who these status are viewable to?
[07:21] <pyro2927> I have an old laptop that I have to boot with acpi=off in order for it to not hang during boot. is it possible that this command is disabling my PCI-express slot?
[07:21] <datz> I almost think I noticed them when I started pidgin, it this somehow connected?
[07:21] <sebsebseb> datz: yes
[07:21] <sebsebseb> datz: it will show Pidgin/Empathy status
[07:22] <datz> ah, interesting..
[07:22] <datz> thanks sebsebseb
[07:22] <sheena1> willluongo: after "writing partition to disk", it says "  No primary partitions are marked bootable. DOS MBR cannot boot this. Toggle bootable flag of the current partition" is that relevant?
[07:22] <willluongo> you probably don't need to boot from it
[07:22] <sebsebseb> datz: also it replaces shut down and log out in the system menu, where it's meant to be really
[07:22] <willluongo> :)
[07:22] <sebsebseb> datz: ,but if you want those there, remove the applet
[07:22] <datz> sebsebseb: ah, interesting
[07:23] <sebsebseb> datz: it's also not part of upsteam Gnome
[07:23] <sheena1> willluongo: this isnt working and i have no idea what i'm doing wrong
[07:23] <sebsebseb> datz: well they edited what was in upstream
[07:23] <sheena1> i tried write, then tried toggling the boot to say Boot, and to not say Boot, and write both times..
[07:23] <willluongo> sheena1: do you mind if I PM you?
[07:23] <datz> I see..just thought it was kinda strange
[07:24] <sheena1> still, when i quit then remount the drive, it shows as files on it
[07:24] <sheena1> no not at all!!
[07:24] <sebsebseb> datz: you just come from a previous release or something?
[07:24] <datz> sebsebseb: I use different releases on different pc's
[07:24] <turkeyshoot> YES!
[07:24] <sebsebseb> datz: 8.10 has an older version,  of it, the first version really,  where they also left system menu alone :)
[07:24] <datz> sebsebseb: 8.04, 9.04, 9.10 :)
[07:25] <illy> sebsebseb, i did everying, and the packages will finally download.
[07:25] <illy> but, the internet will still not work
[07:25] <datz> sebsebseb: I guess I'll live with it for now, thanks
[07:25] <illy> even with everything downloaded, all connection info CORRECT.
[07:25] <illy> What should I do now? As, I cant connect to internet at all unless I fix this
[07:25] <paddy_melon> ok, can anyone help me with this? My Ubuntu Server disc won't boot on an old PC which supports DVD and CD. I have burnt it on a CD and a DVD, both of Which hang for about 10 minutes before a message comes up asking to put in a valid disc. My Computer is too old to be able to boot USBs but, it does have a floppy disk drive... any ideas on how to fix it?
[07:26] <illy> Paddy, new computer is pretty much the only way, sorry.
[07:26] <oCean_> paddy_melon: have you checksum'd the download?
[07:26] <paddy_melon> Should I get the HDD, stick it on my desktop and copy the filesystem of a new Ubuntu install
[07:26] <paddy_melon> ???
[07:26] <hamachi> hi can someone help me install catalyst 9.3 drivers for my radeon mobility 9700? I'm running Ubuntu 8.04
[07:26] <illy> nevermind, dont listen to me lawl
[07:26] <Voss> paddy, Are you using cd-r or cd+r?
[07:26] <paddy_melon> oCean_, yes and, it works on other PCs
[07:26] <paddy_melon> Voss, I'm using cd-r
[07:26] <paddy_melon> illy, it is possible
[07:26] <illy> i know, just realized.
[07:26] <paddy_melon> if you don't know something, just shuttup
[07:27] <illy> sebsebseb, could you message me please?
[07:27] <hamachi> the proprietary drivers are bad and cause major screen blinkage when I use Wine
[07:27] <illy> uhm wow paddy.. I was just trying to help..No need to flame..
[07:27] <illy> Flaming will just cause you to get no help.
[07:27] <Voss> paddy, how old is the pc?
[07:27] <paddy_melon> illy, sorry, any ideas?
[07:27] <illy> is it more than about 7-8 years?
[07:27] <paddy_melon> Voss, it was bought around 2000
[07:27] <sebsebseb> illy: I can't help you!
[07:27] <paddy_melon> so, yes
[07:27] <hamachi> can someone help me install catalyst 9.3 drivers?
[07:27] <Voss> paddy, try replacing the cd-rom drive
[07:28] <hamachi> I give free sugar cookies ^_^
[07:28] <illy> argh x.x and Paddy, that's a lil old..You may have to get a new cd rom drive + install the drivers, in order to install it properly.
[07:28] <paddy_melon> Voss, the drive works fine with a WinXP disc
[07:28] <g_giulio> HI  guys, only a litle doubt,please. I've cancel some like 10gb in a microsecond only push shift + delete...but i've REALLY cancel this file?too speedy,maybe...   thanks in advance!
[07:28] <jacquesdupontd> i'm searching how to enable TURBO BOOST on my intel core I7 and i don't find
[07:28] <turkeyshoot> whats this?   -->  /m4/gettext.m4
[07:28] <paddy_melon> illy, it's old but, it's just going to be a seedbox so, not too bad
[07:29] <paddy_melon> Voss/illy, is it possible to get the filesystem of a new Ubuntu install and copy it off onto the hdd, would that work?
[07:29] <Voss> paddy, a new cd-rom drive costs less than $20, not being able to read cd-r's may be a problem with drive
[07:29] <paddy_melon> Take an HDD dump?
[07:29] <paddy_melon> Voss, but, other disks work?
[07:29] <Voss> paddy, xp disc is not a cd-r
[07:29] <Voss> Its a mastered disc
[07:29] <paddy_melon> the other day, under winXP, I burnt a cd-r
[07:30] <paddy_melon> but, winXP is now corrupt
[07:30] <Voss> the drive is a burner?
[07:30] <paddy_melon> Voss, yes, reader and burner
[07:31] <paddy_melon> Is there a way to make a floppy disk that boots the bootable USB?
[07:31] <illy> Hey guys, I have a Dell wireless 1395 WLAN Mini-card, and a Wireless WLAN WAP-Personal Secured connection. I have tried EVERYTHING, and cannot get it to connect wirelessy. Is there any ways that will fix this?
[07:31] <paddy_melon> I hear it is possible in Puppylinux
[07:31] <paddy_melon> illy, have U got the right firmware and drivers
[07:32] <illy> I got the drivers on my windows7 (the linux is partinited or whatever) and yeah i got right firmware
[07:32] <paddy_melon> illy, win7 and Ubuntu are not the same
[07:32] <paddy_melon> 1st, you'll need drivers for Ubuntu
[07:33] <paddy_melon> and, then you'll need (in some cases) new firmware for the card for it to work in Ubuntu (such as WRT)
[07:33] <illy> Yeah, I cant find those.
[07:33] <paddy_melon> ok
[07:33] <illy> I've googled for hours and cant find em.
[07:33] <paddy_melon> so, there's your problem, U need wireless drivers
[07:33] <paddy_melon> keep looking
[07:33] <illy> Yup. But, Cant find em, any place I can?..
[07:34] <Voss> paddy, burning a cd is one thing booting the cd is another, Also is your bios set to boot the cd drive.?
[07:34] <holmser> paddy_melon, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/use-a-floppy-to-boot-usb-pendrive-linux/
[07:34] <illy> fml i give up on linux..
[07:35] <paddy_melon> holmser, thanks
[07:35] <holmser> np
[07:35] <cynical> lol
[07:35] <Voss> paddy, does your computer have iso burning software
[07:35] <cynical> illy
[07:35] <hamachi> can someone please help me install catalyst 9.3 on my ubuntu machine?
[07:35] <cynical> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=851879
[07:35] <cynical> check that thread out
[07:35] <paddy_melon> holmser, can I use this somehow to install Ubuntu server?
[07:35] <FloodBot4> cynical: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:35] <holmser> probably
[07:35] <paddy_melon> Does it work the same way?
[07:35] <Guest94719> hi all,
[07:35] <alkisg> iceroot: Hi, you were helping me the other day in setting up a samba PDC. I did it, and I'm able to use Windows clients to logon to it, but I cannot logon with Ubuntu clients. Could you share your client smb.conf or give me some advice on how to debug it? E.g. do I need Kerberos?
[07:35] <hamachi> anyone please? help would be appreciated
[07:36] <Voss> paddy, have you made iso cds before?
[07:36] <moreece> arg, I am sick of this terrible desktop
[07:36] <datz> illy: what ubuntu release are you using?
[07:36] <moreece> can someone pls assist
[07:36] <illy> 9.10
[07:36] <datz> ok, just checking..
[07:37] <moreece> ATI display card not working, running ubuntu 640 x 480
[07:37] <illy> hm why =p?
[07:37] <holmser> paddy_melon,  I would make a usb startup disk of server 9.10
[07:37] <moreece> I've downloaded lastest ATI drivers, and tried installing them
[07:37] <cynical> oh illy I found a solution for you
[07:37] <illy> seriously? x_X
[07:37] <illy> the second i delete the partition, you find a solution D:
[07:37] <illy> what is it? :O
[07:37] <paddy_melon> holmser, OK, does the Script just boot any USB drive?
[07:37] <Sacho> I'm trying to install the kdebase-runtime package for a couple of kde programs on ubuntu jaunty, but I'm getting this error: http://pastebin.com/d73d15ce5   Could someone give me a tip or something on how to resolve that issue and install the package?
[07:37] <Voss> How is it ATI who has open source drivers sucks so often, while nvidia who just drops binary blobs on us their stuff works
[07:37] <cynical> sudo apt-get install bcmwl-kernel-source, then reboot and go to system > admin > hardware drivers and check the broadcom driver
[07:37] <piojunbabia> i have downloaded *.tar.gz for compiz theme.. how do i install it?
[07:37] <cynical> then reboot again and you should be good
[07:38] <holmser> it looks for a vmlinuz file
[07:38] <holmser> essentially the disk is just grub, which looks for a usb instance of vmlinuz
[07:38] <soreau> piojunbabia: Why are you trying to install compiz? It is already installed by default.
[07:38] <holmser> no promises, but it should work
[07:38] <illy> bcmwl-kernel-source, reboot, -> hardware drivers, and check for broadcom driver?
[07:38] <illy> are you sure this will work cynical?
[07:38] <cynical> yeah just found it searching on the ubuntu forums
[07:39] <illy> okay, time to re install it..
[07:39] <illy> -sigh-
[07:39] <cynical> original poster replied that it worked for him, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1344839&highlight=dell+wireless+1395
[07:39] <soreau> piojunbabia: Oh you said theme, I misread your inquiry
[07:39] <Guest94719> i want to install BSNL WLL Clarity-IIa on my Ubuntu 9.10
[07:39] <m0ar> I need some help with Ubuntu One. When trying to reach my files over the web, the pages just load infinitely when clicking a files. Am i missing something?
[07:40] <soreau> piojunbabia: What kind of theme is it? gtk, gdm, emerald or something else?
[07:40] <illy> Wow, Cynical, THANK YOU!
[07:40] <illy> thank you so much
[07:40] <cynical> haha np, glad it worked out for you :)
[07:40] <illy> but, will it auto detect my connection now? or will I have to input everything?
[07:41] <cynical> if you have wpa setup you will need to enter your details again
[07:41] <illy> wpa setup? dunno what ya mean, but I have a WLAN WPA-Personal Secured connection.
[07:42] <cynical> yeah, I mean you will have to type in your password when you connect to the network
[07:42] <cynical> but other than that it should be automatic
[07:42] <illy> Oh, yeah thats fine.
[07:42] <illy> oh wow
[07:42] <illy> will you be on in ~hour?
[07:42] <cynical> lol yeah probably
[07:42] <illy> okay, ill be back with results -sigh-
[07:42] <cynical> gl
[07:43] <openros> ubuntu 9.10 after update detects the wireless connections, doesnt connect but, pls help
[07:43] <Guest94719> nay help
[07:43] <lindar> >_> I don't know how to use this. I deleted something I didn't want to delete. How do I undo it? ;-;
[07:43] <m0ar> When trying to reach my files over the web through Ubuntu One, the pages just load infinitely when clicking a file. Am i missing something?
[07:43] <maxhodak> i'm trying to get passenger and mod-php running side by side under karmic  but apt wont let them be installed at the same time
[07:44] <maxhodak> its claiming that they're dependent on mutually exclusive packages
[07:44] <maxhodak> and i know this isnt the case
[07:44] <m0ar> openros: Are your settings correct in nm-applet?
[07:44] <maxhodak> (mod-php -> apache-mpm-prefork, passenger -> apache-mpm-worker, but they both should work with either
[07:44] <FireCrotch> lindar: unfortunately, it is not possible to undelete files in Ubuntu\
[07:45] <lindar> >_________>
[07:45] <lindar> You're kidding...
[07:45] <m0ar> lindar: It is.
[07:45] <cynical> lindar, if it isn't in your trash folder then you can't get it back
[07:45] <openros> m0ar: its asking WPA, even i give right key it doesnt connect.
[07:45] <lindar> I don't know where my trash folder is.
[07:45] <m0ar> cynical: Yes you can.
[07:45] <cynical> how exactly?
[07:45] <m0ar> lindar: Add "Trash" to your gnome panel, that'll work fine
[07:45] <Guest94719> how can i detect my BSNL WLL (it is usb connection)
[07:45] <Zeppelin> What are some Linux alternatives to Dreamweaver?
[07:45] <openros> m0ar: how to check nm-applet
[07:46] <m0ar> cynical: The files are still on your HDD, just emoved from the index. Using a recovering application will show them again if they aren't overwritten
[07:46] <m0ar> openros: The networking-application in your panel
[07:46] <lindar> How? ;-;
[07:46] <cynical> m0ar, that is how it works in windows, I was under the impression it was different in linux
[07:46] <m0ar> openros: Check all the settings, set them as they are set in windoes.
[07:46] <FireCrotch> lindar: http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/
[07:47] <m0ar> cynical: Oh, you have a harddrive only for linux? :)
[07:47] <lindar> It took me a really long time to download the thing I accidentally deleted, and I don't know where the trash folder is, and I don't know how to make it appear in my gnome thingy...
[07:47] <lindar> I really don't know how to work this and I'm freaked out.
[07:47] <m0ar> cynical: No, the hardware is the same
[07:47] <openros> m0ar, it was working fine with ubuntu 9.04, i did an upgrade. Prblem started from then.
[07:47] <maxhodak> any advice on overriding apt's dependencies?
[07:47] <m0ar> lindar: If it's only that it's probably not worth it.
[07:47] <openros> m0ar, i didnt change any settings
[07:47] <lindar> How do I find my trash can?
[07:48] <FireCrotch> lindar: Apparently I was a little out-of-date on my info... last time I had investigated recovering a deleted file on an ext3 or 4 partition, there was nothing available to do it
[07:48] <m0ar> lindar: Add it to you panel, that's easiest
[07:48] <git__> hi
[07:48] <maxhodak> lindar: protip: there is no trash can
[07:48] <lindar> In ubuntu?
[07:48] <m0ar> lindar: Otherwise write trash:/// in nautilus
[07:48] <m0ar> maxhodak: Wyf, yes
[07:48] <oCean_> maxhodak: yes there is
[07:48] <enzotib> maxhodak: why? a given package will not work without its depends installed
[07:48] <lindar> HAH! There is!
[07:48] <lindar> >_<
[07:48] <lstarnes> lindar: some programs will save "deleted" files in ~/.local/share/Trash/
[07:48] <lindar> Thank you!
[07:49] <maxhodak> enzotib: it has incorrect dependencies
[07:49] <lindar> (( trash:/// worked!))
[07:49] <cynical> m0ar, it isn't possible to undelete if you are using ext4
[07:49] <cynical> http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Frequently_Asked_Questions#Can_I_undelete_files_in_Ext4.3F
[07:49] <m0ar> lstarnes: trash:/// contains all files removed by nautilus
[07:49] <enzotib> maxhodak: submit a bug report, then
[07:49] <maxhodak> enzotib: and it's trying to remove another package i need
[07:49] <moreece> erg
[07:49] <maxhodak> grr
[07:49] <openros> m0ar, often it freezes if i play with the wireless settings
[07:49] <maxhodak> i'll just install it from source
[07:49] <cynical> which is why I love linux filesystems :D
[07:49] <moreece> has anyone got an ATI card actually running on ubuntu 9.10
[07:49] <m0ar> cynical: That's a diffrent thing. The filesystem itself can't reach the files, but the magnetical info on the disk is still there and CAN be read by certain programs
[07:50] <cynical> oh yes
[07:50] <m0ar> openros: Then I don't know
[07:50] <cynical> I agree, but good luck getting them
[07:50] <jenda> My internet connection is suddenly broken somehow (maybe DNS?) I can use IRC and torrents seem to run fine, but ping google.com times out, webpages don't load and thunderbird can't connect to gmail - any ideas?
[07:50] <cynical> before they are overwritten
[07:50] <m0ar> cynical: Yeah, then we agree.
[07:51] <m0ar> cynical: Still, the guy left :D
[07:51] <cynical> lol yeah, I figured his problem was just finding out where trash went
[07:51] <m0ar> cynical: It's just not worth spending ~8 hours scanning your disk for lost files if it's jsut a download :P
[07:51] <m0ar> cynical: Rofl!
[07:51] <cynical> exactly
[07:51] <kishore> hi all
[07:51] <kishore> can anybody know
[07:51] <m0ar> cynical: I thought he did a hard delete on them c:
[07:51] <FireCrotch> maxkelley: You'll have to install the package manually with dpkg and use the --ignore-depends=package-name option (where package-name is the name of the package that you want to ignore)
[07:51] <m0ar> kishore: Just ask, don't ask to ask
[07:51] <kishore> how to play windows games in linux
[07:52] <m0ar> kishore: wine
[07:52] <cynical> http://www.winehq.org/
[07:52] <lstarnes> !wine | kishore
[07:52] <openros> ubuntu 9.10 broadcom BCM4312 wireless, doest work. how to solve it
[07:53] <Jordan_U> openros: Have you already tried System > Administration > Hardware?
[07:53] <m0ar> openros: Googling
[07:54] <openros> Jordan_U, i did all googling, and installed  a driver. Now it detects the wireless connections. but does not connect.
[07:55] <Jordan_U> openros: What driver did you install and how?
[07:55] <cynical> openros, they show up as disabled?
[07:56] <openros> if i give lshw, it gives a good output. but my laptop often freezes, and wireless connections are detected. but never connects.
[07:57] <seizui> Ugh.
[07:57] <openros> Jordon_U, it was Broadcom B43 wireless driver.
[07:57] <seizui> Well, back to 9.08 Ubuntu.
[07:58] <seizui> I found no way to fix the damn Grub 2 loading error.
[07:58] <openros> i  installed, fwcutter via synaptic
[07:58] <Jordan_U> seizui: WHat error?
[07:59] <seizui> Well, it is when you first log on Ubuntu 9.10 and the whole thing crashes. It is at GRUB loading... then it freezes. It'll eventually say: error: no device found.
[07:59] <cynical> openros, do you see two drivers in the driver manager? B43 and STA?
[07:59] <seizui> Throughout the whole week, I tried looking through the ubuntu forums on how to solve the problem. I found out how to get around it, but it takes too long to do as well.
[08:00] <Jordan_U> seizui: Removing "set --fs-uuid" "fixes" it?
[08:00] <openros> cynical, yes i see two driver... installing STA, removes completely the wireless options. even the light is not glowing
[08:01] <seizui> as far as typing c to get into the grub ( because it seems to) ---funny, I tried that, that didn't seem to work.  I half-wondered if it is because that I installed it from an external DVD-rom drive that it does this to me.
[08:01] <cynical> you removed b43 before doing it?
[08:01] <psypher246> hey all, could anyone please suggest a straight forward howto on getting kvm with bridged networking working, there are so many ways to doing it I am getting very confused. please note i need instructions  on running kvm from command line due to bug  in libvirt which does not allow it to run windows guests.  thanks
[08:01] <Jordan_U> seizui: What was the temporary "fix" that worked?
[08:01] <openros> cynical, yes i deactivated b43 and removed it
[08:02] <seizui> The temporary fix was more of letting me bypass it to log on. Ho.d
[08:02] <Polysics> hello
[08:02] <Polysics> is ext4 stable for desktop use?
[08:02] <Polysics> someone told me it isn't very stable
[08:02] <jrgp> it's fine Polysics
[08:02] <andrew_46> openros: You downloaded the b43 firmware as well as the b43-fwcutter package?
[08:03] <Polysics> i have a new shiny 500Gb HD for my laptop, i'll do a single 500Gb ext4 filesystem
[08:03] <Polysics> is partitioning recommended any more?
[08:03] <Polysics> other than swap, that is
[08:03] <openros> andrew_46, is it from ubuntu repo... or any URL
[08:03] <seizui> c --- and then 'set root=(hd0,1)' and then 'linux /vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 ro' and... 'initrd /initrd.img' and then 'boot'
[08:03] <cynical> openros, do you have the bcmwl-modaliases package installed?
[08:04] <openros> cynical, yes it is installed
[08:04] <bllz> does bittornado handle magnet urls?
[08:04] <cynical> openros, try removing it and reinstalling bcmwl-kernel-source
[08:04] <kishore> can anybody tell me any  linux games
[08:04] <jrgp> bllz: vuze does
[08:04] <openros> ok let me try
[08:04] <cynical> openros, then restarting of course
[08:04] <jrgp> kishore: doom3, quake4, unreal tournament, urbanterror, quake live, alien arena, etc
[08:04] <bllz> jrgp:  right, but does bittornado?
[08:04] <sprung> bllz, another fan of piratebay i see
[08:05] <media> any one know anything about dvb-s cards?
[08:05] <bllz> sprung:  lol what's that?  never heard of it
[08:05]  * bllz acts innocent
[08:05] <jrgp> bllz: dunno, install it and try it
[08:05] <Polysics> quake live is all you need, it's like crack, only more addictive
[08:05] <Jordan_U> seizui: If the error you get is "device not found", that's been fixed upstream. Just install grub-pc and grub-common from debian unstable: http://packages.debian.org/sid/grub-pc http://packages.debian.org/sid/grub-common
[08:05] <seizui> Hrm.
[08:05] <sprung> bllz, my name is Wink Wilnkeman of the MPAA, we'd like to have a look at your computer
[08:06] <seizui> I'll have to re-install 9.10 and deal with that then, thanks.
[08:06] <Jordan_U> seizui: It's actually a bug in your BIOS
[08:06] <seizui> Huh?
[08:06] <bllz> sprung:  hi Wink, I didn't realize the MPAA acted as law enforcement.  PATRIOT act?
[08:06] <oCean_> !fun | kishore
[08:06] <bllz> sprung:  ;-)
[08:06] <bllz> sprung:  also, inb4 repremand from the rest of the channel...
[08:07] <sprung> bllz, oh well you see we are what is known as a "shadow government" acts don't mean anything
[08:07] <andrew_46> openros: openros Should be a script installed with b43-fwcutter: /usr/share/b43-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[08:07] <bllz> sprung:  Ahhh... it all makes sense now.  That's why playing blu-ray on my ubuntu laptop will earn me hard federal time
[08:07] <Jordan_U> seizui: Your BIOS can't understand large drives and so gives an error when grub probes for partitions. Since the boot files are *usually* within the first 130 or so GIG grub can still boot. The fix is just to make that IO error not fatal
[08:08] <bllz> sprung:  anyway, back OT...
[08:08] <alabd> How to know which dvb-s2 are supported in kernel 2.6.31 or 32 is there any list ?
[08:09] <seizui> Ah, I see. Thanks.
[08:09] <andrew_46> openros: I only know this as I have a bcm 4312 myself :)
[08:09] <Jordan_U> seizui: np.
[08:09] <seizui> So, the problem lies in trying to get the BIOS updated, or...?
[08:10] <turkeyshoot> any ideas? --> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/344020/
[08:10] <seizui> Admittedly, trying to use my Thinkpad R40 for this thing.
[08:10] <seizui> So this -is- kind of old.
[08:11] <Jordan_U> seizui: If there is a BIOS update you can try it. You can also create a small /boot partition at the begginning of the drive or tell grub when you install to use it's own ata drivers directly rather than going through the BIOS
[08:11] <openros> andrew_46, is it working for you
[08:12] <geirha> bllz: I don't know about Bittornado, but Transmission 1.80 will support magnet urls.
[08:12] <andrew_46> openros: Yes but I found that it worked more reliably with wicd
[08:12] <openros> cynical: not in my hardware drivers i have only Broadcom STA, but it says 'This driver is activated but not currently in use'
[08:12] <seizui> Alright. I'll have to give this a try tomorrow. Sadly, too late to attempt anything with this thing.
[08:12] <bllz> geirha:  I appreciate it, but unfortunately I'm stuck with bittornado as it's the client built into mythnettv
[08:13] <bllz> =)
[08:13] <seizui> Any case, you've been very helpful, Jordan. Thanks.
[08:13] <Jordan_U> seizui: np
[08:13] <goose[PC]> I've got a bunch of photos on an apache hosted web page, it doens't have an index.html, it's just a bunch of .jpeg's dumped in an http://website.com/photos/ directory -- for the friends of mine who want to download all the photos, is there a way they can recursively download everything on the page?
[08:13] <chull> i'm trying to print photos with photoprint on my HP printer. it's printing a line of spots, not the four pictures per page that i need it to do.
[08:14] <oCean_> turkeyshoot: when compiling software, make sure you have required packages like build-essential and automake. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[08:14] <baz_> goose[PC], i think that's a solution you want to fix on the client side - perhaps using a firefox plugin
[08:14] <geirha> bllz: Well, #bittornado probably knows ;)
[08:14] <songer> hello. who has used tucan manager?
[08:14] <seizui> Time to give this a try... tomorrow. For now, i crash. Goodnight!
[08:15] <goose[PC]> baz_: yes, I know it'd have to be client side, I was just wondering how to do it :p unless I set up svn?
[08:15] <cynical> openros, strange, when you do lsmod do you see the broadcom module loaded?
[08:15] <bllz> geirha:  lol somehow I failed to think of that option ... maybe it's past my bedtime!  In any case, thanks! =)
[08:15] <ace_> live adult swim channel http://www.altavisdta.com/watch/adult-swim/
[08:15] <baz_> goose[PC], fer sure there is a nice firfox plugin to download all images on a page - i dont know what specifically, but i've seen one
[08:16] <goose[PC]> baz_: well, they're not embedded. it's just a file list :p
[08:16] <papul> i know the question i am going to ask is offtopic but i am asking it because there r a large number of people in here. i want to try out bsd but which one do i choose?? freebsd openbsd or netbsd????
[08:16] <baz_> goose[PC], is directory browsing on?
[08:16] <goose[PC]> baz_: through HTTP? yes
[08:16] <Zelest> papul, what stops you from trying them all?
[08:16] <papul> Zelest, time
[08:17] <ortsvorsteher> !best | papul
[08:17] <bllz> how do I check if i have a package installed at the command line?
[08:17] <bllz> papul:  freebsd is the closest thing you'll find to a desktop OS
[08:17] <lstarnes> bllz: aptitude show packagename
[08:17] <Zelest> papul, netbsd if you plan to run it on your toaster.. freebsd if you plan to have a web/mail/sql server.. openbsd if you plan to have a firewall/dns server. ;)
[08:17] <bllz> papul:  openbsd is very security oriented and netbsd is for complex networks, i believe
[08:18] <bllz> lstarnes:  thank you!
[08:18] <Zelest> papul, (imho of course, each to their own)
[08:18] <cynical> openros, can you type lsmod  | grep "b43\|ssb\|wl" and see if anything is returned?
[08:18] <lstarnes> bllz: or dpkg -s packagename
[08:18] <bllz> lstarnes:  is there any difference between the two?
[08:18] <lstarnes> bllz: aptitude also checks package info in APT repositories
[08:18] <lstarnes> bllz: dpkg only checks the local installed package database
[08:18] <openros> cynical, no output
[08:19] <testlinkinus> test
[08:19] <cynical> ok so it's not loaded
[08:19] <cynical> try modprobe wl
[08:19] <bllz> lstarnes:  great thanks!  one more question, how do i find the manpage?  i tried man bittornado, but got nothing... I assume there's a manpage hidden in there somewhere
[08:20] <lstarnes> bllz: that should work if that is the application's name
[08:20] <geirha> bllz: dpkg -L package-name will list all files installed by that package, so | grep man  may give a clue
[08:20] <bllz> geirha;  great thank you
[08:20] <bllz> lstarnes;  thank you as well!
[08:20] <cynical> openros, if modprobe wl doesn't work then the driver isn't properly installed. You may want to go to http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php and download/install it manually
[08:21] <openros> cynical, I got Fatal error, on dmesg i get, wl: disagrees about version of symbol lib80211_get_crypto_ops
[08:21] <cynical> openros, ok that is more interesting
[08:22] <cynical> openros, do you have linux-backports-modules-2.6.31-1-generic installed?
[08:23] <openros> cynical, i hav linux-backports-modules-2.6.31-16-generic installed
[08:24] <cynical> openros, uninstall it
[08:24] <cynical> openros, if it doesn't work immediately after, reinstall bcmwl-kernel-source and it should work
[08:24] <openros> cynical, should i manually install broadcom driver or do this before that
[08:25] <cynical> openros, no you shouldn't need to if this works
[08:25] <openros> cynical, removing linux-backports-modules-2.6.31-16-generic, removes so many other linux-backports-modules-X
[08:26] <openros> cynical, chall i proceed
[08:26] <cynical> openros, if all is good you should be able to uninstall that package and reinstall the driver directly from the repositories through the bcmwl-kernel-source package
[08:26] <cynical> openros, yes
[08:27] <MASARUwota> !bye
[08:27] <openros> cynical, basically what are those backports packages.
[08:27] <knecht> hi there. i installed a new hardisc in ubuntu server 8.10, create a partition and mkfs.ext3 the new partition. Now i want to mount it via fstab, "blkid /dev/sda1" tell me the uuid, and i want to make an entry in fstab with this uuid, but there is no symlink in /dev/disk/by-uuid for that uuid. Do i need to restart a service? Or should i create it manually? Who creates this symlinks in /dev/disk/by-uuid?  THANKS
[08:28] <cynical> openros, backported modules = hardware drivers
[08:28] <cynical> openros, lots of random wireless drivers/etc
[08:28] <wonderboy> ubuntu 9.10 don't have grub on the live cd?
[08:29] <cynical> openros, one of the libraries in that particular module is the reason you can't load your driver
[08:30] <openros> cynical, great. thanks a ton
[08:30] <cynical> openros, did it work?
[08:30] <openros> cynical: basically those backport modules, didnt let this driver to load am i right
[08:31] <cynical> openros, yup
[08:31] <cynical> openros, does it work now though?
[08:31] <openros> cynical, perfect
[08:31] <cynical> openros, awesome :)
[08:34] <niarbeht> Heyas, is there a guide for people switching from another distro?  Like some sort of quick-and-dirty here-are-the-basic-assumptions-about-Ubuntu thing?
[08:35] <SwedeMike> niarbeht: start with http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus/faq
[08:38] <Riddick> anyone have any idea why ubuntu would hang at 33% formatting a drive every time during install? or some workaround that would get it moving forward?
[08:38] <jme-> hi. I just installed  Ubuntu 10.4. I'm trying to setup a lamp stack (apache, PHP and MySql). I installed pdo and pdo_mysql using pecl install xxx. After that I restarted apache and phpinfo() showed me that pdo and pdo_mysql are installed. Then I tried to install phpmyadmin using apt-get install phpmyadmin. When I restarted apache, it suddenly failed. When I looked in the error.log, I found this line: "/usr/sbin/apache2: symbol lookup
[08:38] <jme-> error: /usr/lib/php5/20060613+lfs/pdo_mysql.so: undefined symbol: php_pdo_get_dbh_ce"
[08:38] <Riddick> and this is a brand new drive.  i thought one i was installing on may have been bad.  got a new drive and save issue.
[08:38] <openros> cynical, its working perfectly.
[08:38] <openros> cynical, thanks
[08:39] <cynical> openros, np, I'm glad to hear it :)
[08:40] <FireCrotch> Riddick: How long have you left it sit at 33%?
[08:40] <lvlint67> Riddick: also, how big is the drive?
[08:41] <Riddick> FireCrotch: i have tried leaving it for a while.  right now i think its been sitting there the last few hours.  its just hung.  the mouse wont move, etc.  its froze.
[08:41] <Riddick> the drive is 500Gigs
[08:42] <lvlint67> Riddick: have you tried formatting it outside of the installer? gparted for instance?
[08:42] <FireCrotch> Riddick: It *could* be a memory issue
[08:42] <yancho> guys i made a backup of a fileserver on a pc running a  live cd of ubuntu and both partitions are around 40gb each. the problem is now that the process has finished when i did right click > properties i am just getting "..." as file number and size. Is there some way to compare the folder sizes via cli please?
[08:43] <Riddick> FireCrotch: not memory   tests fine and will run windows with no issues whatsoever
[08:43] <Riddick> lvlint67: no, i could try that.  just go alt f2 i suppose to get to the console and run it
[08:44] <FireCrotch> Riddick: hard drive cable?
[08:44] <Riddick> FireCrotch: got a new one with the new drive.  so i would say no.
[08:45] <FireCrotch> Riddick: Have you ever previously installed Ubuntu on this same computer?
[08:45] <lazy_man> hey everyone...i have serious problem....my ubuntu cannot boot after deleting linux ext4 partition that has mount point (on /usr/local)...what should i do??
[08:46] <Riddick> FireCrotch: no, i have tried and failed over and over.
[08:46] <FireCrotch> Riddick: Maybe Ubuntu doesn't like your motherboard's SATA or IDE controller
[08:46] <Riddick> the next thing is get a different motherboard.
[08:46] <lstarnes> reset
[08:47] <geirha> lazy_man: Boot the ubuntu CD, mount the / partition of your harddrive install, and comment or remove the offending line from etc/fstab
[08:47] <_Agent86_> hi
[08:48] <FireCrotch> Riddick: what does lspci | grep SATA  give you for the model of your SATA controller?
[08:48] <_Agent86_> could someone running ubuntu with libcurl installed do a quick check for me?
[08:48] <_Agent86_> see if you have a /lib/curl dir
[08:48] <Riddick> FireCrotch: i have never got it to recognize sata  it will start the install from the sata blueray but then fail to continue when you say install  so i have used a usb dvd drive to do the install and put an ide harddrive in which it does see
[08:48] <lazy_man> can u give me some examples?
[08:49] <Riddick> so it could just be as you stated the motherbaord controllers suck on this board
[08:49] <lazy_man> and i am using netbook so i can't use live cd on it
[08:49] <_Agent86_> (on gcc compile with #include <curl/curl.h>, it can't find any of the normal libcurl functions)
[08:49] <Typh> hmmm, why would I not have a bluetooth indicator/blueman is all greyed out
[08:49] <FireCrotch> Riddick: Oh, yeah, you definitely need a new mobo then :P
[08:50] <geirha> lazy_man: Does it drop you into a shell? You may be able to do it from there.
[08:50] <Riddick> FireCrotch: what do you think of this board?  http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4408209&sku=A455-2876
[08:51] <lazy_man> yeah that's right...now i am in recovery shell...so what should i do next?
[08:52] <geirha> lazy_man: vim /etc/fstab
[08:53] <FireCrotch> Riddick: seems to be your average run of the mill AM3 motherboard, really
[08:53] <Riddick> yeah but its not nforce which i think is the reason this board sucks on the machine i want ubuntu on.
[08:54] <Riddick> its amd chipset which will probably have support
[08:54] <lazy_man> hmm....i just get message : vim: command not found....i think that must be installed first....what should i do next?
[08:54] <Riddick> and it supports the memory and processor i already have.
[08:54] <geirha> lazy_man: Try nano
[08:55] <dn4> What is a program used for video editing?
[08:55] <geirha> lazy_man: Or possibly /usr/bin just isn't in the PATH, so /usr/bin/vim
[08:55] <FireCrotch> Riddick: How old is the motherboard that you're trying to use?
[08:55] <Riddick> got it last year
[08:55] <FireCrotch> dn4: cinelerra
[08:55] <AnnonyMouse> hi guys; I'm trying to set up multiseat-X. the config is pretty complicated. is the a tool to simplify the process (karmic-64)
[08:57] <Kane> ive got a prob with my video card
[08:57] <FireCrotch> Riddick: it seems to me that it may not necessarily be that Ubuntu doesn't like your chipset, but rather that it's going bad (you might not have problems with Windows even if the chipset is crapping out)
[08:57] <lazy_man> it is said no such file or directory....
[08:57] <lazy_man> what must i do next???
[08:58] <jme-> I have a local network and I would like to use my ubuntu installation as a server (www, ssh etc) and I would like to access the server using a local hostname rather than the ip number. How can I accomplish this?
[08:59] <SwedeMike> jme-: edit /etc/hosts
[08:59] <Riddick> i suppose.  its just an extra pc as i am a mac user.  i got it to be able to use my work login programs which are windows only then realized i could just run windows in vmware on the linux box when needed or on my macbook pro. but for the life of me i can't get linxu to install natively so if i have to buy another mobo i will.   i like using nfs to share the drives with my mac and prefer linux over windows anyday.
[08:59] <Dessan> jme-, On how many computers do you want to be able to access it using this local hostname?
[09:00] <dn4> !cinelerra
[09:00] <AnnonyMouse> anyone have multiseat-X experience please?
[09:00] <jme-> dessan: 2
[09:00] <jme-> just for personal and local usage
[09:00] <Kane> how do i find my xorg log ?
[09:00] <Dessan> jme-, there are a few ways. Easiest is editing the /etc/hosts file
[09:00] <llutz> Kane: most likeley you don't have one, create it with the options you need
[09:01] <llutz> Kane: /etc/X11/org.conf it would be
[09:01] <Dessan> jme-, You would have to do this on both computers.
[09:02] <Kane> ok, but how do i save my refresh rate and my reolution to the x log if i dont have one ?
[09:02] <jme-> ok
[09:02] <jme-> should I use the ip address of the server in the hosts file then?
[09:03] <jme-> thanks, it works now
[09:05] <Kane> llutz, how can i save my resolution and my refresh rate to a file that dont exist ?
[09:05] <llutz> Kane: as i said, create one
[09:05] <FireCrotch> Kane: create it
[09:05] <Kane> how ?
[09:05] <llutz> Kane: sudo nano /etc/X11/org.conf
[09:06] <dsl_> i have a simple script to copy files from /home to a network location and it works fine but when i create a launcher for it *that* doesn't work - can anyone help please?
[09:06] <Myrtti> dsl_: create a launcher for a terminal that runs that script
[09:06] <VirusTB> hpow man y bits are AMD processors?
[09:06] <VirusTB> hoiw*
[09:06] <VirusTB> how*
[09:06] <Myrtti> VirusTB: depends on the model
[09:06] <Kane> then what, never tried it before ? all i need is my refresh rate to be set at 60 hz and i need it to stay there llutz ?
[09:07] <VirusTB> Myrtti<<  uhm X2 :S
[09:07] <dsl_> so launcher properties should read for /bin/bash script?
[09:07] <llutz> Kane: depends on your video-chipset
[09:07] <VirusTB> Myrtti<< I thought all Intel proicessors were 32 bit, and all AMD were 64 bit? I guss tha isnt true
[09:08] <Myrtti> VirusTB: did you read the specifications of that processor from the amd website?
[09:08] <Myrtti> VirusTB: no, it's not true
[09:08] <dsl_> Myrtti: I meant scriptname
[09:08] <vsMS> Hi! is it possible to resign an existing .deb package?
[09:08] <llutz> Kane: read "man xorg.conf" for info on the layout of that file
[09:08] <hole_> anyone ever heard of ubuntu netbook remix? i am having problems accessing anything ie. apps,games,utils
[09:08] <Kane> where i find that llutz, and i have nvidia if that helps?
[09:08] <llutz> Kane: use nvidia-settings then
[09:09] <VirusTB> Myrtti<<  well its not my priocessor.. its a friends, il talking to him online now, he cant get ubuntu 9.10 installed ( so I siuggested to get the 64bit .iso an give it a try)
[09:09] <Myrtti> dsl_: your script has hashbang in the beginning of it?
[09:09] <hole_> there is nothing on the desktop that resembles a menue
[09:09] <hole_> menue-e =menu
[09:09] <Myrtti> VirusTB: if he's certain he wants it installed, then rather suggest him the alternate disk
[09:09] <dsl_> Myrtti: yes it does...and a launcher with command /bin/bash doesn't open a terminal. what's wrong?
[09:09] <Kane> yes and when i try to save it to the x file.. it says failed to parse existing x config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:09] <MASARUwota> vsMS, i suggest you ask that in #debian, they know everything about .deb files :p
[09:10] <Myrtti> dsl_: of course it doesn't open a terminal, bash is a separate entity
[09:10] <dsl_> Myrtti: er, sorry I'm new to this :(
[09:11] <Myrtti> dsl_: make a launcher for "gnome-terminal -x /path/to/the/script" or something like that
[09:11] <hole_> anyone ever heard of ubuntu netbook remix? i am having problems accessing anything ie. apps,games,utils there is nothing on the desktop that resembles a menu
[09:11] <Kane> llutz yes and when i try to save it to the x file.. it says failed to parse existing x config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:11] <dsl_> Myrtti: ah yes xterm is what I need lol
[09:11] <vsMS> a second question: does somebody here tried to install karmic using fai?
[09:11] <Myrtti> dsl_: of course, gnome-terminal to be replaced with whatever terminal app you're using, check the needed parameter for running a script from man <terminal>
[09:11] <Typh> hole_: huh? your entire desktop should be an app launcher
[09:11] <llutz> Kane: look at ubuntuforums.org, there should be a solution for that
[09:11] <VirusTB> Does it matter what Manufacture HDD's you have when making a RAID system?  I got a Hitachie, WD and a Samsung :S
[09:12] <hole_> typh i know
[09:12] <hole_> but it isn't
[09:12] <hole_> i JUST installed it too
[09:12] <Typh> Do you at least have a panel up top?
[09:12] <hole_> yes
[09:12] <dsl_> Myrrti: thank you, it works now :)
[09:13] <llutz> Kane: "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and then sudo nvidia-settinsg
[09:13] <llutz> Kane: "sudo nvidia-xconfig" and then sudo nvidia-settings
[09:13] <hole_> my sound icon,clock,and bettery icon are on it
[09:13] <hole_> bettery = bAttery
[09:13] <skitzo> hey guys well.. i finally got flash x64 working without firefox crashing.. yay! (or not) next problem.. i cant use any of the buttons, volume full screen etc.. :((
[09:13] <Typh> restart? or run gnome-session-properties and make sure "netbook launcher" is checked
[09:13] <rand_acs> anyone know why the updater updates menu.lst and not grub.cfg on karmic?
[09:14] <Kane> llutz, should i write sudo nvidia-xconfig and then enter or both at the same time ?
[09:14] <skitzo> i swear i can't win aye lol
[09:14] <llutz> Kane: "sudo nvidia-xconfig <enter>" and then "sudo nvidia-settings <enter>"
[09:14] <Jordan_U> rand_acs: You don't have grub-pc installed ( why you don't is another question )
[09:15] <Jordan_U> rand_acs: Was this a fresh install or an upgrade?
[09:15] <hyperstream> how long would the export of pyrit to a cow.out file take for a 2gb password list that was hashed?
[09:15] <hole_> how do i run gnome-session-proporties i cant find a menu
[09:15] <VirusTB> Does it matter what Manufacture HDD's you have when making a RAID system?  I got a Hitachie, WD and a Samsung :S
[09:15] <Kane> llutz, when i write "sudo nvidia-xconfig, what should happen then
[09:15] <hole_> and believe it or not i'm really not such a noob
[09:15] <hole_> just wanted somthing new
[09:16] <Typh> alt f2
[09:16] <hyperstream> Its counting in entrys, can i take this as each line from my password.txt file ?(2gb is size)
[09:16] <llutz> Kane: it creates a default /etc/X11/xorg.conf (likely no output)
[09:16] <hyperstream> opps wrong channel :P
[09:16] <rand_acs> Jordan_U: fresh install, but I had loads of trouble getting karmic and win7 (on a second hard drive) to boot, win7 doesn't want to boot when launched from grub, think it wants to be the first drive...
[09:16] <Kane> llutz, what should that help ?
[09:17] <skitzo> anybody?
[09:17] <Jordan_U> rand_acs: Did you install the "grub" package? Because that will install grub-legacy and remove grub2
[09:17] <llutz> Kane: help to solve your problems?
[09:17] <Yionel> please help me with this problem : http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=3139927#p3139927
[09:17] <hole_> typh i should type "gnome-session-proporties" in this window?
[09:17] <Jordan_U> rand_acs: Try "sudo apt-get install grub-pc" and see if you can boot windows after that
[09:17] <error404notfound> i did something and now my desktop is zoomed in and follows cursor, how to get out of this :'(
[09:18] <rand_acs> Jordan_U: yes, I see that seems to be the one problem
[09:18] <Kane> but again, it dont
[09:18] <Typh> hole_: yes
[09:18] <llutz> Kane: have you run nvidia-settings AFTER nvidia-xconfig?
[09:19] <Kane> yes
[09:19] <rand_acs> Jordan_U: thanks man! seems that it found all the kernels
[09:19] <hole_> typh it was checked i'm rebooting
[09:20] <Jordan_U> error404notfound: Hold super ( the key with a super hero cape on it, sometimes known as the windows key ;) and scroll your scroll wheel ( If I remember correctly, I don't use compiz any more )
[09:20] <Kane> llutz yes
[09:20] <error404notfound> Jordan_U, thanks, i also disabled it, but i think i missed it somewhere
[09:20] <hole_> out of curiosity what is a segmentation fault?
[09:21] <Jordan_U> error404notfound: np
[09:21] <VirusTB> How so I like terminate all the Data on my HDD?  shread it into a gazillion peices so the FBI cant read data if they were to get my HDD ( I want to sell one of my HDD but hasmy financial information on it)
[09:21] <rand_acs> hole_: when a program tries to read some memory that is out of the expected segment
[09:22] <Myrtti> VirusTB: check out shred - "man shred" - it might be what you're looking for
[09:22] <hole_> i still have no launcher you know a console command for it?
[09:22] <VirusTB> Myrtti<<  thats in ubuntu right/.
[09:22] <Myrtti> VirusTB: be very, *very* careful with it though
[09:22] <llutz_> Kane: then try "sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf && sudo nvidia-settings"
[09:23] <rand_acs> hole_: for example, you're trying to read an element in an array, but then the program reads outside of the array boundries
[09:23] <Myrtti> VirusTB: this is ubuntu channel, so we assume you're using ubuntu
[09:23] <hole_> i understand
[09:23] <Jordan_U> rand_acs: np :)
[09:23] <VirusTB> Myrtti<<  yes I am :P but the HDD I want to seel is on Windows, I'll install ubuntu on it and shred it
[09:23] <Myrtti> VirusTB: the livecd probably has shred too
[09:24] <rand_acs> Jordan_U: let's reboot and hope this works :)
[09:24] <Myrtti> VirusTB: so you don't need to install anything
[09:24] <VirusTB> Myrtti<< ah ok even better...
[09:24] <VirusTB> Myrtti<<  but how long would it take to shred say 320 GB ??
[09:24] <hole_> typh i still have no launcher you know a console command for
[09:24] <hole_> it
[09:24] <Flannel> VirusTB: A number of hours per pass
[09:24] <Myrtti> VirusTB: depends on the rpm's of your drive, write speed, overall performance, etc. Have no clue.
[09:25] <llutz_> VirusTB: depends on the shred-level, from "fast" to "ages"
[09:25] <Typh> hole_: netbook-launcher I believee
[09:25] <Flannel> VirusTB: You can safely start it, and go have coffee/dinner/nap/cruise/whatever
[09:26] <Kane> i need my refresh rate to be 60 hz but its 60.02 hz, does that influence on any games i play ?
[09:26] <ActionParsnip> Kane: will be fine
[09:27] <dnivra_> I accidently deleted my DSL's config file from /etc/ppp/peers and cannot run pppoeconf: it gives an error "access concentrator did not respond". how do I get the config file(of /etc/ppp/peers) back?
[09:27] <hole_> i am gunna pastebin this it wont run because of an error
[09:27] <Kane> actionparsnip in 2 of my games it says cannot display this video mode, what to they mean by that ?
[09:27] <VirusTB> Flannel<< Myrtti llutz_  Thanks.. I check out the "shred" from my terminal n see what its all about
[09:29] <MASARUwota> Kane: wrong resolution?
[09:29] <hole_> http://pastebin.com/d4c9d813f
[09:30] <hole_> whddya think
[09:30] <Kane> masaruwota, when i then try and change the resolutin and save it to the x file, wich llutz have helped me with, but i cant seem to get it right, it says: Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'!
[09:30] <dsl_> i need to install a label printer. I've got the archive containing the driver source and unzipped it, next I need to compile it. Is there a C++ compiler in the default desktop ubuntu? I can't see gcc installed
[09:31] <quietone1> is there a key board equivalent to clicking the mouse wheel?
[09:32] <Myrtti> dsl_: install build-essential. Are you sure though you need to compile it?
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> Kane: you need to match the res to your screens native res as your monitor sounds like it moans unless you use the only res it is ok with
[09:32] <Oday> but wait
[09:32] <Oday> dsl_, go to terminal
[09:32] <Oday> and type 'gcc'
[09:32] <Kane> actionparsnip im a noob to this, what ??
[09:32] <dsl_> Myrtti: i tried command gcc with no source file and it is installed
[09:33] <Oday> if you get "gcc: no input files" than gcc is installed
[09:33] <dsl_> Myrtti: yes i have instructions
[09:33] <Kane> actionparsnip, i use the one it says insight the screen and it says 1280x1024
[09:33] <Dn4> !cinelerra
[09:33] <Oday> so you just need to put the file you want to compile, in the Home folder, and run "g++ <filename> -o <outputfilename>
[09:33] <dsl_> Oday: yep i did that ^^, I'll try it for real now ;)
[09:33] <MASARUwota> dsl_ good luck
[09:34] <Kane> actionparsnip, where do i find the native res ?
[09:34] <Oday> then type ./filename to run
[09:34] <Oday> with the dot
[09:34] <hole_> would it be possible to build new toolbars like the non remix version and if so then how?
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> Kane: match the res of the game to the res you run your desktop at
[09:34] <Kane> i cant get in the game actionparsnip
[09:35] <Kane> actionparsnip, is there a page on the internet where i can search for the screen i use ?
[09:35] <hole_> whddya think
[09:35] <hole_> would it be possible to build new toolbars like the non remix version and if so then how?
[09:36] <Typh> hole_: what do you mean new toolbars?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> Kane: just look in display settings, or just run: sudo xrandr
[09:36] <hole_> on the original ubuntu there is a bar at the top and a bar at the bottom
[09:36] <Typh> The top panel is a normal gnome panel. You can right click an empty spot and do whatever you want
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> Kane: you may have to jump into the configs of the game to manually set the res
[09:36] <Dn4> !directfb
[09:36] <dsl_> Before i do that, i have another set of instructions which says do './configure' then 'make' then 'make install'. I take it this means i dont have to use gcc to compile directly?
[09:37] <hole_> my right click seems to be non functional
[09:37] <Typh> maybe you should try a different distro. I suggest Jolicloud
[09:37] <BT> is there anysort of itunes like program for linux which will sync music to my ipod?
[09:38] <Slart> !ipod | BT
[09:38] <hole_> the only reason i used this one is because my wifi worked right away no changing anything
[09:38] <indus> BT: rhythmbox
[09:39] <hole_> that is what i seem to have the most trouble with
[09:39] <BT> thanx all
[09:39] <Typh> hole_: heh, that's why I switched FROM nbr to jolicloud
[09:39] <Crippler> !spybot
[09:39] <BIG> May i ask a question about ubuntu?
[09:39] <SwedeMike> !ask | big
[09:39] <Kane> when i try to enter my display button it says: It appears that your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool.  Do you want to use your graphics driver vendor's tool instead?
[09:39] <hole_> i'm using acer aspire one what u on
[09:40] <Typh> asus eee 1008ha
[09:40] <Typh> they have a list of supported netbooks
[09:40] <hole_> yeehaa i just figured out how to use gnome original i'm just fine now
[09:40] <BIG> If I use wubi to install ubuntu onto my windows Xp, then surf the net through ubuntu say using it's version of mozilla firefox, is that any safer a way (virusfree/spyware free) to surf the net? I'm not talking downloading stuff just looking around...
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> hole_: do you have desktop icons?
[09:41] <hole_> everything works fine now
[09:41] <hole_> not yet
[09:41] <hole_> but i will when i have installed everything
[09:41] <hole_> i want
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> hole_: ease up on the enter
[09:41] <hole_> thanx for your time and patience
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> BIG: you can get good safety in windows by simply not logging on with an administritive account which is the despicable default in windows
[09:43] <i_is_broke> or just dont run windows.
[09:43] <BIG> If i create a user id on my PC that is not my admin account and surf the net your saying that is a lot safer/better?
[09:44] <Kane> when i try to enter my display button it says: It appears that your graphics driver does not support the necessary extensions to use this tool.  Do you want to use your graphics driver vendor's tool instead?
[09:44] <dsl_> Myrtti: tried ./configure but it tells me CUPs library isn't installed but Software Centre says Configure Printers gtk front end for cups is installed...is that all i need?
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> BIG: yes but most dont as they are either ignorant or don't like having to log off to do admin tasks
[09:44] <indus> hello folks
[09:44] <i_is_broke> hi indieross
[09:44] <Myrtti> dsl_: do you have the -dev packages installed? you need them to compile
[09:44] <i_is_broke> oops hi indus
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> big: linux understands that running apps with full system access is a REALLY bad idea and uses a better user model
[09:45] <indus> hi
[09:45] <dsl_> Myrtti: er, how to tell please?
[09:45] <BIG> How does it make it safer? it can only harm that user? So if it did smuck up that user then you just make another?
[09:46] <i_is_broke> BIG, you have to log into the admin account to install things, so it doesnt give it access to that part of the system.
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> BIG: ok when you are admin you have FULL system acces (read and write) as a user you only have read access systemwide but ONLY write access to your home folder
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> BIG: so if you run a web browser as admin it has full reign over your system and you will get issues if for example a javascript or flash app has malicious code
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> BIG: as a user it will only have access to your user data and will not cripple your system as you can simply log on as another user to fix
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> BIG: in windows most idiots log on as administrator and wonder why they get issues
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> BIG: running things like web browsers as admin or root and especially irc clients is massively foolhardy
[09:49] <BIG> so if i'm the user and it goes bad i just log in as admin and use virus scans ?
[09:49] <i_is_broke> ActionParsnip, your absolutely correct on that.except that they some times dont know that, as its not explained by m$
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> i_is_broke: i know but its sad
[09:49] <i_is_broke> ActionParsnip, well you called them idiots, i think of them as unknowledged.
[09:49] <Myrtti> dsl_: check which cups related dev packages you've got installed either via aptitude or synaptic
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> BIG: you can simply drop to root recovery console, or make an extra user for troubleshooting with. Any issues you encounter will only affect ~
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> i_is_broke: there are people who should know better but still do it
[09:51] <i_is_broke> its one of the main reasons i switched to linux, that and i got tired of having to update my system every time there was a new windows os.coming out.
[09:51] <Kane> when i get a driver from the software center.. where can i go and see it ?
[09:51] <BIG> okay thanks action parsnip!
[09:51] <good4thecompany> i know that in Compiz the setting is called "Viewport Switcher" but how do i stop my scroll wheel from changing workspaces in Openbox??
[09:51] <i_is_broke> ActionParsnip, i know i even had to set my wifes computer up that way.
[09:52] <Guest0> hm
[09:52] <Guest0> hi
[09:52] <zaggynl> hello
[09:52] <Guest0> : >
[09:53] <BIG> so i'll make a bunch of accounts then i can switch around if i need to to fix issues, IF i'm installing something can i just switch back and forth using the Log off switch to user option?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> BIG: you can right click apps in windows and select : run as     then use your admin account
[09:54] <Subdolus> hey
[09:54] <Subdolus> how do I make basic text appear at the bottom of my apache directory listing
[09:54] <good4thecompany> i know that in Compiz the setting is called "Viewport Switcher" but how do i stop my scroll wheel from changing workspaces in Openbox??
[09:54] <Subdolus> like i dont have an index or anything, just a bunch of files
[09:55] <Subdolus> i want to add my own text down near where it says Apache version info
[09:55] <BT> i have a laptop, so would i be downloading the desktop or netbook version of ubuntu
[09:55] <Subdolus> is it htaccess/
[09:55] <Subdolus> ?
[09:56] <soreau> good4thecompany: They probably have it hard coded? Or maybe there is some config file other than their GUI settings thingy
[09:56] <Guest0> boring
[09:56] <Guest0> : >
[09:56] <nathan7> "Mount of root filesystem failed. A maintenace shell will now be started."
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> BT: depends on the spec, netbook has a nice UI for netbooks but you can install either
[09:56] <nathan7> Sulogin, I login.
[09:56] <nathan7> My rootfs is mounted.
[09:57] <ActionParsnip> BT: desktop ill give you a deskto plike a windows desktop, netbook has a glossy UI (do some image searches to check it out). Whichever you like, install it
[09:57] <Kane> i think i found the problem..
[09:57] <good4thecompany> and do would a Window Rules type thing be the same, for making a certain window not show up in taskbars?
[09:57] <indus> BT: desktop
[09:58] <BT> okey, thanx all
[09:58] <good4thecompany> oops, meant just would a window rules type thing be in there too, just to make a window not show up in task bar
[09:59] <sigp228> yes but if there were errors mounting it will be mounted read only
[10:00] <dsl_> Myrtti: ok i installed all the necessary stuff and './configure' worked fine. However make complains 'exec: g++: not found'
[10:00] <dsl_> Myrtti: ignore, that;s not installed either LOL
[10:02] <skitzo> ok guys this flash is driving me up the wall i think im actually going insane now i've tryed everything to get the x64 version of flash going with no luck so after hours of tutorials and what not i finally gave up and decided to just install the one from the software center... now when i go to youtube my browsers not crashing on me and the video's playing... butnone of the buttons on youtube respond to my mouse clicks :(( somebody please end my suffering
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> skitzo: i can get you 64bit flash dude
[10:02] <good4thecompany> how do i find the geometry for the size of a window when it's open, so that i can set those coordinates when i launch it next
[10:03] <frogzoo> skitzo: did you dl the 64bit beta plugin?
[10:03] <llutz_> good4thecompany: xwininfo
[10:03] <good4thecompany> thanks
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> skitzo: can you use http://pastebin.com   to give the output of: dpkg -l | grep flash; dpkg -l | grep gnash; dpkg -l | grep swf
[10:04] <shykes_> hello
[10:04] <frogzoo> skitzo: download  10.0 r32 and store it in /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins & restart ff
[10:04] <Kane> ive just got some software for nvidia at the software center, where can i go and see it ?
[10:04] <MASARUwota> !hi|shykes_
[10:04] <skitzo> frogzoo, dude i've seriously done all this it just crashes on playback
[10:05] <shykes_> Are Linux Containers (LXC) enabled on Ubuntu's EC2 kernel?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> skitzo: do you have flash packags installed too?
[10:05] <good4thecompany> sorry for so many questions, but 1 more, in openbox you can rightclick a window and "undecorate" it, is there a -command to automatically do it at launch?
[10:06] <frogzoo> skitzo: ls -l /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[10:06] <skitzo> ActionParsnip, well i do now the one from software center as i gave up after hours of trying to get the x64 version working :(
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> skitzo: if you give a pastebin if the command I can give you a long command to get you 64bit flash
[10:08] <skitzo> hangon i'll just uninstall the other flash package so i can start from scratch could you give me a command from terminal to delete all installed flash plugins? thanks
[10:08] <good4thecompany> What is the -command to undecorate a window at launch in Openbox, without having to right click it?
[10:09] <dnivra_> can someone tell me how to connect to internet in karmic using pppoeconf: I accidently deleted the configuration file and keep getting the error "access concentrator did not respond" when I run pppoeconf.
[10:09] <llutz_> ActionParsnip: just a tipp to make it more handy: " dpkg -l|egrep  'swf|gnash|flash'"
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> llutz_: nice, will bear in mind
[10:10] <kontagious> i edited songs on my ipod from rhythmbox and when i use the ipod it says no songs but when i connect it rhythmbox can still see them. any ideas?
[10:10] <shykes_> I read a lot of posts from people failing to get LXC to work on EC2. But I don't know if it's supposed to work in the first place
[10:11] <Daughain> Morning, all.
[10:13] <timmillwood> Morning
[10:13] <Daughain> This the newbie channel?
[10:13] <MASARUwota> !hi|timmillwood
[10:14] <MASARUwota> Daughain: pretty much, the support channel actually
[10:14] <Daughain> God start. =)
[10:14] <Daughain> Got a collectio of newbie questions. =)
[10:14] <MASARUwota> Daughain: go ahead
[10:15] <Daughain> OK, this could be amusing... =)
[10:16] <dnivra_> can someone tell me how to connect to internet in karmic using pppoeconf: I accidently deleted the configuration file and keep getting the error "access concentrator did not respond" when I run pppoeconf?
[10:16] <Daughain> If I do a fresh install of 9.10 without wiping my drive first, wil I lose al my data?
[10:17] <indus> Daughain: what do u mean wiping drive
[10:17] <Church> Daughain: i'm guessing, that depends on your choices in installer / disk & filesystems configurator
[10:17] <indus> Daughain: any fresh install with format partitions at least for the /
[10:17] <Myrtti> Daughain: there's always a chance of data loss, so make backups first
[10:18] <BUBUNTU> Hi all. Im using Rhythmbox 0.12.5 and i'm not able to change the properties of the files with ape extension, the files are reproducible. I read there is some bug related to it. Im running on 9.10.
[10:18] <Daughain> OK, lets try this....Is there anything I can install that will tel me what physical hardware is on my laptop?
[10:19] <frogzoo> Daughain: lshw
[10:19] <frogzoo> lspci/lsusb
[10:19] <indus> Daughain: already installed
[10:19] <frogzoo> & dmesg
[10:19] <dsl_> Myrtti: well it compiled and make was ok but make install has 4 or 5 errors at the end but im not sure if they're critical
[10:19] <Daughain> frogzoo; total newb here, I have no clue what any of that means.
[10:20] <indus> Daughain: just install hwinfo from synaptic
[10:20] <indus> Daughain: works like system in control panel
[10:20] <JAM`> I've just booted to a clean desktop but everything is running really slow and 84% of my RAM is in use, yet system monitor shows the largest process to be only 12mb (xchat, which is probably 3 times what it should be). What is going on? :z
[10:20] <frogzoo> Daughain: open synaptic & install the package "lshw" - then from a terminal, type "sudo lshw | less"
[10:20] <llutz_> !checkinstall | dsl_ for the future you might want to use this
[10:20] <Myrtti> dsl_: I'm not an expert on compile issues, so I can't really help you too much
[10:20] <indus> aah terminal crap
[10:20] <kontagious> i edited songs on my ipod from rhythmbox and when i use the ipod it says no songs but when i connect it rhythmbox can still see them. any ideas?
[10:21] <Myrtti> frogzoo: lshw is there already by default
[10:21] <frogzoo> Myrtti: aright, thx
[10:21]  * Daughain waits for a consensus...
[10:21] <Myrtti> llutz_: checkinstall will not take compile errors away
[10:21] <frogzoo> Daughain: ok - just open a terminal & type "sudo lshw | less"
[10:22] <llutz_> Myrtti: i know and haven't said it will.
[10:22] <iceroot> how to install a *.deb which is using "Provides" and NOT in a repo? i just know dpkg but that cant handle "Provides"
[10:23] <Daughain> Hey, I finaly know what model this thing is.. =)
[10:23] <JAM`> :>
[10:23] <indus> Daughain: hwinfo is a graphical interface for listing all things
[10:23] <Daughain> indus: how do I start, or run that?
[10:24] <JAM`> any idea why Ubuntu is eating so much RAM? I've only just logged in and I'm at 83% already
[10:24] <indus> Daughain: install it from synaptic or with sudo apt-get install hwinfo
[10:24] <[BIOS]dnivra> can someone tell me how to connect to internet in karmic using pppoeconf: I accidently deleted the configuration file and keep getting the error "access concentrator did not respond" when I run pppoeconf?(also can anyone see this message? got some network issues so would like to know if my messages do reach the channel?)
[10:24] <Kane> if i go to my network toolsi have 2 protocols... why do i have that
[10:24] <kontagious> how much ram do you have jam
[10:25] <iceroot> JAM`: there are not 83% used completty. 83% = directly used ram + buffer + cache
[10:25] <[BIOS]dnivra> can anyone see any message I send to the channel?
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> [BIOS]dnivra: yes
[10:25] <JAM`> kontagious, 51mb, but normally there's only 150mb odd used when I start up, 403mb is in use now, I've only just logged in?!
[10:25] <ziga> yes
[10:25] <iceroot> [BIOS]dnivra: true
[10:25] <JAM`> not normal behaviour
[10:26] <ziga> i need some help
[10:26] <Daughain> indus: ok, thats installing...
[10:26] <[BIOS]dnivra> i'm having doubts: keep getting disconnected from the channel and have to keep changing nicks. thanks.
[10:26] <kontagious> right now im using 440 Mb. i think thats normal
[10:26] <iceroot> !ram | JAM`
[10:26] <iceroot> !ask | ziga
[10:27] <[BIOS]dnivra> can someone tell me how to connect to internet in karmic using pppoeconf: I accidently deleted the configuration file and keep getting the error "access concentrator did not respond" when I run pppoeconf.
[10:27] <Daughain> indus; Where will I find it from desktop?
[10:27] <iceroot> [BIOS]dnivra: #freenode for irc help
[10:27] <indus> JAM`: use a lighter browser
[10:27] <ziga> ok i see..sry im new here...hehe
[10:27] <[BIOS]dnivra> iceroot: thanks
[10:27] <indus> Daughain: see in menu someplace
[10:27] <indus> Daughain: no spoon feeding here :)
[10:27] <dsl_> Myrtti: I'm almost there, the only problem seems to be file permissions...i get 'cannot create regular file...blah...: Permission denied'
[10:27] <ziga> problems with compiz...reflection button caused ubuntu not responding...
[10:28] <indus> Daughain: if you cant find it , just type hwinfo from a terminal prompt
[10:28] <llutz_> dsl_: if installing outside /home you have to use sudo checkinstall (make install)
[10:28] <soreau> ziga: Reflection button?
[10:28] <ziga> yes...well i checked reflection
[10:28] <JAM`> indus, I'm not running a browser. I've just logged in, and it was at 83% 400mb odd straight away, and it took AGES for the system tray and stuff to load. This _isn't_ normal. I usually have 150mb in use with nothing running and the computer is normally reasonably snappy. Also the programs in the system monitor are using about 3 times as much RAM as they should be.
[10:28] <ziga> and that was it
[10:28] <Daughain> indus: I checked through before I asked. =)
[10:29] <ghostlines> i was having some input output errors with my hdd, now I can't even detect it as a device to partition it, is the hdd just dead now?
[10:29] <indus> JAM`: run the updates if any offered
[10:29] <JAM`> indus, done that already
[10:29] <indus> JAM`: but linux has a way of using memory so the numbers may not seem what it is
[10:29] <indus> JAM`: like iceroot said already
[10:30] <indus> JAM`: but if system is sluggish, check which process is doing it, use htop to check
[10:30] <JAM`> indus, they not they way they are like they are on every other day and the whole PC is running a lot slower than it should, considering I'm running nothing other than xchat.
[10:30] <indus> JAM`: install htop
[10:30] <JAM`> indus, the CPU is not in use, it's like at 3%
[10:30] <JAM`> it's totally a memory issue ¬_¬
[10:31] <indus> JAM`: how long has it been like this?
[10:31]  * nonoy\ np: Jose Mari Chan - Track 5 ( get AMIP v2.26 plug-in at http://amip.tools-for.net )
[10:31] <JAM`> indus, it did this last week one morning too, and it took an hour before it went back to normal. Then it didn't do it again, now it has started again.
[10:32] <indus> JAM`: probably a ghost :P , but hmm check which processes are doing so,
[10:32] <JAM`> indus, last time this happened I waited like an hour then eventually the RAM levels dropped back to normal and the PC sped up again
[10:33] <dsl_> Ilutz: sorry I don't understand... is checkinstall a command?
[10:33] <JAM`> indus, the processes list looks totally normal, with the exception that tings are using more RAM than usual, but it still adds up to at most 200mb, there's nothing that's shown to be using like 300 or whatever. Which is why I'm in here ;p
[10:33] <sarthork1> my hardy was giving trouble booting without "acpi=off". but with "acpi=off" i dont see any battery stats. I've looked the net, and i read something about grub-efi, but isnt that only for macbooks? im on a lenovo machine. can anyone help me with this?
[10:33] <indus> JAM`: its normal, i have 200 mb used normally for nothing
[10:34] <indus> JAM`: are you running any services
[10:34] <JAM`> I have 400mb in use!
[10:34] <llutz_> dsl_: yes, but you have to install it before
[10:34] <JAM`> just the process list adds to 200mb
[10:34] <indus> JAM`: ya hmm you should reboot ;0
[10:35] <llutz_> dsl_: using "make install" on systems with package-management is not a good idea. it will drive you into trouble, sooner or later. so better use checkinstall or create "real .deb"
[10:35] <indus> JAM`: cant say, maybe someone else has some idea
[10:35] <JAM`> indus, I've rebooted once already ;o
[10:35] <indus> JAM`: how much ram you have,
[10:35] <JAM`> 512mb
[10:35] <indus> JAM`: ok thats not good enough really
[10:36] <dsl_> Ilutz: sorry I'm lost now.... did you mean i have to install 'checkinstall'?
[10:36] <indus> JAM`: which version of ubuntu is this,9.10? use 1 gb atleast
[10:36] <JAM`> indus, this still shouldn't be happening, I'm running nothing
[10:36] <JAM`> indus, it runs fine every other day than today
[10:36] <indus> JAM`: yes,but linux uses mem differently
[10:36] <llutz_> dsl_: yes, "sudo aptitude install checkinstall" and then use "sudo checkinstall" instead of "sudo make install"
[10:36] <JAM`> indus, I can't add more RAM to this machine, it's not mine, I'm at work
[10:36] <indus> JAM`:did you install htop
[10:37] <JAM`> indus, and I'm not getting any work done ;o
[10:37] <indus> JAM`: do it
[10:37] <Two4> I have a few questions about UEC: If I want to run OS-level virtualisation on my server(s), should I use enterprise cloud as a platform to do so?
[10:37] <sarthork1> ﻿ my hardy was giving trouble booting without "acpi=off". but with "acpi=off" i dont see any battery stats. I've looked the net, and i read something about grub-efi, but isnt that only for macbooks? im on a lenovo machine. can anyone help me get back my battery-stats with acpi=off?
[10:38] <dsl_> Ilutz: so does 'sudo checkinstall' require info on what I'm installing
[10:39] <Kane> when i install software programs from ubuntu software centre, where does ubuntu put it ?
[10:39] <llutz_> dsl_: no, it's a "make install" replacement, just fire it up in your source-directory where you would type "sudo make install". but as Myrtti said, using checkinstall won't solve any compile-errors.
[10:40] <Two4> Kane, do you mean the .deb packages that it downloads, or the software itself?
[10:40] <chilli0> Is there anyway to control the t.v from ubuntu lol ? I have blutooth
[10:40] <dsl_> Ilutz: that seemdd to work :D
[10:40] <dnivra_> can someone tell me how to connect to internet using pppoeconf in karmic?
[10:40] <dsl_> Ilutz: installation successful
[10:40] <MASARUwota> chilli0, mythTV or what?
[10:40] <Two4> chilli0: does your tv have bluetooth?
[10:40] <Kane> two4 the software, i just installed nvidia binary X.org driver..
[10:40] <MASARUwota> bluetooth tv, thats pretty awesome :O
[10:40] <llutz_> dsl_: you missed the "sudo" before
[10:40] <dabukalam> hi all i have a problem mounting a partition on ubuntu server 9.04. I keep getting the "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock..." error
[10:41] <airtonix> chilli0, yes there is
[10:41] <JAM`> indus, http://purplejam.co.uk/htop.png
[10:41] <MASARUwota> dabukalam: how do you mount it?
[10:41] <chilli0> Wasnt sure if i needed bluetooth o=
[10:41] <ellie> hi everyone
[10:41] <MASARUwota> !hi|ellie
[10:41] <chilli0> airtonix,  How ?
[10:41] <dsl_> Ilutz: its installed, I need to do a printer install using those drivers now
[10:41] <llutz_> dsl_: good luck
[10:41] <airtonix> chilli0, first you need bluetooth nodes on both devices.
[10:41] <JAM`> oops
[10:41] <Two4> Kane: the software itself is installed in various places around your system. What are you looking for?
[10:41] <JAM`> indus, http://purplejam.co.uk/stuffs/htop.png ;D
[10:41] <dabukalam> mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /media/aks4
[10:41] <chilli0> airtonix,  I have bluetooth but not sure about the t.v
[10:42] <ellie> ty ubottu.. whats a good gui based cleaner? i am trying to clean packages and kernel. i usually use ubuntu-tweak built in stuff. any suggestions? thanks!
[10:42] <Kane> two4, i cant play urban terror and it sucks
[10:42] <Kane> because it cant find my video mode
[10:42] <airtonix> chilli0, you could use an infrared sender from the machine then but it gets more complicated and specific to each tv
[10:42] <ellie> ubuntu-tweak is great but does not work on karmic. at least the good stuffs
[10:42] <chilli0> airtonix,  How can i do that =o ?
[10:42] <ellie> repos. cleaning. app install etc
[10:43] <dsl_> Ilutz: installed ok but not printing (yet)!
[10:43] <mansa> I am not able to run the sudo apt-get update command in the terminal. It says cannot connect to the proxy
[10:43] <airtonix> chilli0, it's based on the principle of recording the required infrared signals into audio files and playing them back through the headphone port into a infrared sender that is plugged into your headphone port.
[10:43] <dabukalam> MASARUwota: mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /media/aks4
[10:43] <indus> JAM`: how many workspaces do u have
[10:43] <indus> JAM`: sure no apps are running on them
[10:43] <airtonix> chilli0, but this is offtopic
[10:43] <llutz_> dabukalam: "sudo fdisk -l |grep sdb1"
[10:43] <ellie> mansa: your system has to be online before updating
[10:43] <chilli0> airtonix, It is ?
[10:44] <Two4> is there a list of examples for use of UEC?
[10:44] <JAM`> indus, I've just logged in. It was like that straight away, the systray took like 2 minutes to appear.
[10:44] <airtonix> chilli0, yes because the process you use is the same regardless of the OS you use.
[10:44] <Two4> can I run Xen on UEC?
[10:44] <dnivra_> mansa: are you using a connection that needs a proxy?
[10:44] <mansa>  ellie: yes it is connected directly to the net
[10:44] <chilli0> airtonix,  Ohok
[10:44] <dsl_> Ilutz: got a test page out of it!! needs setting up but at least it works in principle
[10:44] <Daughain> OkropNick, I still need a GUI for hwinfo, using it in term isn't helping me. Anyone know what I am missing here?
[10:44] <dsl_> Ilutz: many thanks
[10:44] <Daughain> HUnh?
[10:44] <chilli0> airtonix,  brb
[10:44] <indus> JAM`: iam sure other usersa re logged in
[10:44] <indus> JAM`: just log out once
[10:44] <dsl_> Myrtti: thank you also
[10:44] <mansa> dnivra_ i used to to use one before
[10:45] <dabukalam> llutz_: /dev/sdb1               1      121600   976751968+  83  Linux
[10:45] <JAM`> indus, OK, but the only user that's on here is me ;o
[10:45] <indus> JAM`: !
[10:45] <dnivra_> mansa: now you don't have a proxy? try export http_proxy"". i think it should work after this
[10:45] <JAM`> indus, there's only one account and it's mine ;p
[10:45] <indus> JAM`: ok i fail but try going through htop and see for strange stuff
[10:45] <Myrtti> dsl_: no probs
[10:45] <llutz_> dabukalam: same error if you use "sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/aks4" ?
[10:46] <kraut> moin
[10:46] <mansa> dnivra_I know that , the thing is i dont use proxy now , i am directly connected to the net
[10:46] <JAM`> indus, consider I don't have anything installed from PPAs either, this might be an actual Ubuntu problem. Could be something it doesn't like about the hardware configuration
[10:46] <dabukalam> llutz_: yup
[10:47] <mansa> dnivra_: I had added it in /etc/bash.bash.rc
[10:47] <indus> JAM`: well, i said before, it s not entirely happy with 512 MB
[10:47] <dnivra_> mansa: just run that command I gave you and it should work
[10:47] <indus> JAM`: but iam not sure about that, i think 512 should be enough\
[10:47] <JAM`> indus, it is usually though, that's the problem. And it should never be using as much as it is.
[10:48] <dnivra_> mansa: you'll need to keep doing that everytime you close the terminal and open it since it's in the bash.bashrc file
[10:48] <gibby> what is the cheapest cooper gigabit card that works for 9.10?
[10:48] <mansa> dnivra_: I hashed it in /etc/bash.bashrc
[10:48] <dnivra_> mansa: i suggest you uncomment/remove those entries you added from the file and then restart terminal as a permanent solution. for temporary just use the command I gave you:).
[10:49] <LimCore> anyone did setup a VPN on Ubuntu client + Ubuntu server?
[10:49] <killahop> giorno
[10:49] <dnivra_> mansa: comment*. good now restart terminal
[10:49] <mansa> dnivra_: Well i did try that it is still not working
[10:49] <mansa> dnivra_: i had done that before
[10:49] <dnivra_> mansa: didn't get you; done what before?
[10:50] <llutz_> mansa: "fgrep -ri proxy /etc/apt/*"
[10:50] <mansa> dnivra_: ok, removed the lines and restarted the terminal again
[10:50] <dnivra_> mansa: any luck?
[10:50] <Daughain> How do I install a GUI for hwinfo?
[10:50] <mobius420> greetings, does anyone know if a Dell Inspiron 4000 US model can operate as resolutions above 800x600?
[10:50] <mansa> dnivra_: no
[10:51] <TopCat> Daughain: hi
[10:51] <dnivra_> mansa: do echo $http_proxy. is it blank or has some value?
[10:51] <mobius420> in Ubuntu latest*
[10:51] <Daughain> TopCat, morning.
[10:51] <TopCat> Daughain: its already a gui
[10:51] <TopCat> Daughain: iam indus
[10:51] <mansa> dnivra_: no value
[10:51] <LimCore> TopCat: hwinfo is a gui?
[10:51]  * dnivra_ is stumped
[10:51] <dabukalam> does anyone have advanced knowledge of filesystems/mounting?
[10:51] <Daughain> TopCat: OK, well, I still can't find a way to pull it up anywhere, and running it in term floods me with more info than I can make sense of.
[10:51] <dnivra_> mansa: i usually just set that value when necessary and then it works. it gets unset when I quit
[10:52] <TopCat> oops
[10:52] <MASARUwota> dabukalam: what was your problem?
[10:52] <TopCat> ok try hwdata
[10:52] <Daughain> TopCat: that an install or command?? =)
[10:52] <TopCat> Daughain: heh sudo apt-get install hwdata
[10:52] <TopCat> Daughain: i seem to forget which one i used
[10:52] <TopCat> i swear it was hwinfo
[10:52] <dnivra_> mansa: try running source /etc/bash.bashrc. doesn't work i've no idea; sorry. perhaps someone else would help out here.
[10:52] <Daughain> TopCat: OK, thats next... =)
[10:52] <dabukalam> MASARUwota: I can't mount sdb1. my fdisk -l is here. I keep getting a mount error
[10:53] <dabukalam> MASARUwota: http://paste.ubuntu.com/344024/
[10:53] <mansa> dnivra_: k
[10:53] <MASARUwota> dabukalam: what command do you use?
[10:53] <dnivra_> mansa: let me know if it works ok. "source /etc/bash.bashrc" just a guess that's all:).
[10:54] <Daughain> TopCat: No worries, just glad for some help. =)
[10:54] <dabukalam> MASARUwota: mount -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 /media/aks4
[10:54] <Daughain> TSrated with 9.04 and upgraded to 9.1, and still havong some problems, so.
[10:54] <MASARUwota> dabukalam: try putting sudo before it?
[10:54] <TopCat> Daughain: but whichever it was, looked exactly like windows hardware manager
[10:54] <Daughain> TopCat: ok, checking for it now.
[10:55] <dabukalam> MASARUwota: I am... thought that much was obvious ;)
[10:55] <dnivra_> can anyone help me with connecting to internet using pppoeconf: i deleted my configuration file from /etc/ppp/peers and pppoeconf keeps giving me an error.
[10:55] <MASARUwota> dabukalam: thank god
[10:55] <MASARUwota> dabukalam: what error do you get while mounting it?
[10:55] <TopCat> Daughain: ok got it hihiih its called hardinfo
[10:56] <TopCat> fantastic :D
[10:56] <TopCat> try try try
[10:56] <TopCat> sorry about that
[10:56] <dabukalam> MASARUwota: http://paste.ubuntu.com/344025/
[10:57] <TopCat> LimCore: it s called hardinfo which has gui
[10:57]  * timmillwood wants to switch from Mac OS to Ubuntu.
[10:57] <TopCat> whats wrong with mac os
[10:57] <MASARUwota> dabukalam: youre sure you put in the right FS type, right?
[10:57] <Guest76220> masura what is your command like?
[10:57] <MASARUwota> Guest76220: what?
[10:57] <dabukalam> MASARUwota: yup
[10:57] <LimCore> TopCat: last time I usaed mac os, it forced me to watch stupid commercialls on the DVD I bought (WTF?)
[10:57] <Guest76220> sorry masaru i dont mean you i mean dabukalam
[10:58] <Daughain> Look up hardinfo in synaptics
[10:58] <LimCore> ok technically it didnt forced me to *watch* it,  but it force computer to display it with no option to skip
[10:58] <MASARUwota> dabukalam: try a fsck /dev/sdb1
[10:58]  * TopCat moos
[10:58]  * TopCat purrs 
[10:58] <MASARUwota> Guest76220: how about getting a nick
[10:59] <ThortheMighty> My computer refuses to connect to DeviantART on any browser, another machine on the same connection is able to connect to this website but I can't. I can also ping the website's IP address and yet I still cannot get on. What is going on?
[10:59] <CyberArch> For millionaires theres MacOS for the rest of us theres Ubuntu
[10:59] <TopCat> Daughain: done? successfull?
[10:59] <MASARUwota> ThortheMighty: its a terrible website D: also, can you ping it?
[10:59] <Daughain> TopCat: Still nowhere to be found, even after doing the install for hardinfo via synaptics
[11:00] <TopCat> Daughain: just type it in terminal now hardinfo
[11:00] <ThortheMighty> Yes I can ping it but I can't connect at all. It keeps saying it can
[11:00] <ThortheMighty> *can't connect to the server
[11:00] <TopCat> Daughain: its so detailed, you will probably cry
[11:01] <MASARUwota> ThortheMighty: try to get a different IP. also, does it work with a webproxy or somethingl like that?
[11:01] <Daughain> TopCat: Ok, got it now. =) And, that may be, but hopefully it wil tel me wtf this HDMI crap I got on here is, and mebbe I can find some drivers for it.
[11:01] <TopCat> Daughain: aahhdmi ?
[11:02] <TopCat> Daughain: what is hdmi really, i just got a ATI 4850 card and dont know how to get that sound output
[11:02] <ThortheMighty> MASARUwota: I'll give it a go on the proxy
[11:02] <kcj1993> ThortheMighty: try #firefox type: /join #firefox
[11:02] <Daughain> TopCat: Yup, Gateway w/HDMI. Been having driver issues with it since I got this damn thing.
[11:02] <MASARUwota> kcj1993: he has this problem on any browser, thus it isnt browser related
[11:03] <kcj1993> hmm
[11:03]  * TopCat goed
[11:03] <kcj1993> just an idea
[11:04] <ThortheMighty> I'm not a guy. Btw
[11:05] <Daughain> TopCat: Been having vid issues since I got this thing, and, have no clue what the hardware actually is.
[11:05] <MASARUwota> ThortheMighty: THOR sounds pretty manly, imo
[11:05] <gibby> what is the cheapest cooper gigabit card that works for 9.10?
[11:05] <Psinetic> hey everyone i'm on ubuntu 9.1064bit. I just bought a new JamVOX and want to try it out. Go figure it's windows based software >_>. I lost the setup cd, freaking great. I'm on their site and they have two possible installers: Windows and Mac. Which should i use?
[11:05] <MASARUwota> Psinetic: neither
[11:06] <kcj1993> lol
[11:06] <Psinetic> MASARUwota, well...what should i do then?
[11:06] <Psinetic> this thing cost me over $100.00
[11:06] <ThortheMighty> Lol Masaru it's just from a movie that's coming out in 2011
[11:06] <llutz_> Psinetic: ubuntu is linux, neither win nor mac
[11:06] <Psinetic> i know that
[11:06] <llutz_> is a*
[11:06] <Psinetic> but i know there's wine
[11:06] <MASARUwota> Psinetic: http://www.voxamps.com/forum/topic.php?id=279
[11:06] <Psinetic> i just don't know what to do, use wine, or is the mac installer more compatible with linux than windows?
[11:07] <MASARUwota> Psinetic: neither are
[11:07] <llutz_> Psinetic: mac bases on bsd
[11:07] <mobius420> my god this distro is
[11:07] <mobius420> just somthing else :)
[11:07] <MASARUwota> Psinetic: http://www.voxamps.com/forum/topic.php?id=279
[11:08] <Daughain> Now to find drivers for a Radeon X1200
[11:08] <Psinetic> hmmmmmm
[11:08] <MASARUwota> Psinetic: the windows setup MAY work under wine, but if you need to install drivers for that youre out of luck
[11:08] <Psinetic> i see it doesn't have an installer for linux, but do you think the installer will work in wine?
[11:08] <Psinetic> oh ok
[11:08] <MASARUwota> Psinetic: just give it a try under wine, would be my guess
[11:09] <erUSUL> !appdb | Psinetic
[11:09] <Psinetic> alright, thanks :)
[11:09] <dnivra_> can someone tell me how to bring down the currently running pppd daemon: i need to create a new pppoe connection and keep getting the error "access concentrator did not respond" and so need to delete the old one and it's settings. i tried hashing the relevant entries in /etc/ppp/pppoe_on_boot and even deleted the file. but no luck:( cannot run pppoeconf still.
[11:10] <mobius420> sounds like dsl isnt any easier in linux than in the rest of life :p
[11:11] <MASARUwota> mobius420: what :/
[11:11] <mobius420> although i cannot diss my current 12 mb pppoe
[11:11] <arong> 大家好
[11:11]  * mobius420 has had severe frustrations with the dsl companies where he used to live
[11:12] <ThortheMighty> It will work through proxy, but any idea how to get it to work normally?
[11:12] <llutz_> dnivra_: killall pppd
[11:12] <MASARUwota> mobius420 glasfiber here, i can get to like ~10mb/s on good local servers
[11:12] <Daughain> TopCat: Thanks. Think I am going to reinstall anyway. Too much BS since I did the upgrade. Mebbe frsh install wil solve some of them.
[11:12] <mobius420> and glass is dedicated myes?
[11:12] <dnivra_> Illutz: there is no such process.
[11:12] <MASARUwota> ThortheMighty: try getting a new ip. youll have a DHCP connection probably
[11:12] <llutz_> dnivra_: then pppd isns't running
[11:12] <good4thecompany> what's the command to find window info such as geometry again? like win info or something in Openbox
[11:13] <dnivra_> Ilutz: that's not what pppoeconf says
[11:13] <MASARUwota> ThortheMighty: try pulling out your cable and putting it in, and running dhcpcd from your terminal
[11:13] <llutz_> good4thecompany: xwininfo
[11:13] <llutz_> dnivra_: pgrep ppp
[11:13] <dnivra_> "perhaps another pppoe process controls your modem"
[11:13] <isolat3sh33p> there's a santa hat on my vlc icon =_=
[11:13] <llutz_> dnivra_: pppd != pppoe
[11:14] <dnivra_> Ilutz: no output for pgrep ppp
[11:14] <dnivra_> Illutz: so what is the pppoe process referred to here then?
[11:14] <llutz_> dnivra_: idk
[11:14] <MASARUwota> isolat3sh33p: lol vlc
[11:15] <dnivra_> Ilutz: idk?
[11:15] <isolat3sh33p> MASARUwota: ikr? I was surprised.. LOL
[11:15] <llutz_> dnivra_: i don't know
[11:15] <MASARUwota> isolat3sh33p: i can understand that :p
[11:15] <dnivra_> Ilutz: right. thanks.
[11:15] <isolat3sh33p> MASARUwota: haha
[11:16] <arong> 有人打里我吗
[11:16] <erUSUL> !cn
[11:16] <arong> 欢迎一起交流
[11:16] <MASARUwota> !cn|arong
[11:18] <dnivra_> what does "Access concentrator of your provider did not respond" mean(am running pppoeconf)?
[11:20] <mobius420> anyone know of a well built installer for TOR, I2P, or Freenet?
[11:20] <wvd> How do I remount everythign?
[11:20] <wvd> everything*
[11:20] <vox> wvd: sudo mount -a
[11:20] <MASARUwota> mobius420: want to download CP? LOL
[11:20] <ThortheMighty> MASARUwota: Usage: dhcpcd [options] <interface>
[11:20] <ThortheMighty>  This is what it told me.
[11:21] <mobius420> download what?
[11:21] <connex> Hi, can someone tell me where I can find the source code for a specific kernel module (visor) ?
[11:21] <MASARUwota> ThortheMighty put in your interface ;/   like : dhcpcd eth0
[11:21] <MASARUwota> connex: kernel.org ?
[11:21] <MASARUwota> connex: otherwise try #linux =)
[11:21] <mobius420> Its great because my school has a nazi administrator who loves to pry with his new wireshark toy
[11:21] <moreece> I'm back and now without a GUI
[11:21] <moreece> I am hating my ATI card,
[11:22] <erUSUL> wvd: sudo mount -a -o remount
[11:22] <mobius420> wireshark does not make a network admin :p
[11:22] <MASARUwota> moreece: every linux user does
[11:22] <moreece> how can I get my Gnome back up and running even if its in basic VHA mode
[11:22] <moreece> VGA mode I mean
[11:22] <wvd> erUSUL: oh
[11:22] <moreece> MASARUwota: yeah I can see why
[11:22] <connex> MASARUwota, i can't register to the channel, i don't receive the email
[11:22] <MASARUwota> moreece:the open-source drivers are so-so, and the proprietary oens are horrible
[11:22] <mobius420> moreece what card?
[11:22] <moreece> can some assist me in getting my gnome desktop up and running again
[11:22] <moreece> I have a mobile HD 3470
[11:23] <MASARUwota> connex: try buggin about it in #freenode
[11:23] <connex> thakns
[11:23] <elky> mobius420, avoid godwin's law please.
[11:23] <mobius420> ;]
[11:23] <ThortheMighty> MASARUwota: Annoyingly, that didn't work either. Sigh.
[11:24] <mobius420> and moreece I have to ask:  how badly broken is your display at thie moment?
[11:24] <moreece> well, its doesnt work @ all ... all I have is a terminal
[11:24] <moreece> :(
[11:24] <mobius420> kk
[11:24] <valada> hi, I installed kde in ubuntu, them afert uninstall the sound was not working, how I reinstall the orginal sound driver of ubuntu?
[11:24] <DJones> connex: There were problems with freenodes email system yesterday, you'll probably need to drop the nick you're trying to register and then reregister it, I had to do that this morning, best place to ask will be in #freenode
[11:24] <MASARUwota> ThortheMighty: do you have a connection atm?
[11:24] <mobius420> you understand the runlevels?
[11:24] <moreece> I used to be able to login with somekind of lowres mode, "tried" fixing it but now nothing works
[11:24] <ThortheMighty> MASARUwota: Yes
[11:24] <MASARUwota> ThortheMighty: can you visit the site already? ;/
[11:25] <chilli0> Hi
[11:25] <JuanJOBC> HI
[11:25] <MASARUwota> !hi|chilli0
[11:25] <MASARUwota> !hi|JuanJOBC
[11:25] <computer_> 9.04 worked out best for my laptop
[11:25] <Psinetic> MASARUwota, do you think jamvox would work under a VM?
[11:25] <JuanJOBC> Is there anything that I can install to give to "nano" a color printing for PHP code?
[11:25] <JuanJOBC> thanks
[11:25] <ThortheMighty> MASARUwota: I tried again and it still won't connect to the server at DeviantART
[11:25] <MASARUwota> Psinetic: the app would. does it need any drivers?
[11:26] <JuanJOBC> I edit PHP scripts from SSH in a remote server, and it is very hard to understan larg amount of lines when no syntax higlighting
[11:26] <Psinetic> MASARUwota, i installed it fine. but when i run it i don't see anything
[11:26] <moreece> how would I go about removing my entire desktop GUI and reinstalling from scratch
[11:26] <Psinetic> that's just the software though MASARUwota
[11:26] <Psinetic> it's not the hardware
[11:26] <Psinetic> so even the app isn't showing up
[11:26] <MASARUwota> moreece: sudo apt-get autoremove X*
[11:26] <MASARUwota> LOL
[11:26] <crankyadmin> JuanJOBC: Use VIM!
[11:26] <dnivra_> JuanJOBC: color printing as in higlight the keywords? tried VIM?
[11:26] <chilli0> For some reason all my alerts come up under the volume is ( like If a new person logs in on empathy It shows in the alert box but its below where it should be
[11:26] <JuanJOBC> crankyadmin, dnivra_ no I have never tried VIM, only nano !
[11:27] <MASARUwota> JuanJOBC: try it then
[11:27] <crankyadmin> JuanJOBC: Try VIM then... You'll love it!
[11:27] <JuanJOBC> OK guys, thanks
[11:27] <JuanJOBC> I was todl it is very complicated to use
[11:27] <mobius420> moreece    your kernel version?
[11:27] <crankyadmin> Code Folding/ Syntax highlighting and much more!
[11:27] <dnivra_> JuanJOBC: it's an amazing editor. slowly am shifting to vim.
[11:27] <JuanJOBC> ok thanks
[11:27] <JuanJOBC> MASARUwota++
[11:28] <JuanJOBC> crankyadmin++
[11:28] <JuanJOBC> dnivra++
[11:28] <JuanJOBC> oops
[11:28] <JuanJOBC> dnivra_++
[11:28] <kcj1993> C++ ?
[11:28] <dnivra_> JuanJOBC: dnivra is my original nick but well i forgot the password:).
[11:28] <moreece> mobius: how do I check kernel verision?
[11:28] <mobius420> uname -a
[11:28] <mobius420> do uname -a
[11:29] <moreece> alright busy removing the entire X* now
[11:29] <mobius420> :P
[11:29] <moreece> will do uname start afterwards, can I open an additional terminal while in my current one ... isinit it like F1 or something
[11:30] <MASARUwota> moreece: ALT+ F1 = 1st terminal ALT+F2 = 2nd etc
[11:30] <mobius420> yes
[11:30] <mobius420> you could boot to runlevel 5 and load your backup xorg file
[11:30] <mobius420> or just edit it
[11:30] <ThortheMighty> So I guess my problem cannot be fixed?
[11:31] <mobius420> assuming you have a backup
[11:31] <moreece> er ... watching all the removing of modules as we speak
[11:31] <mobius420> :P:P:P
[11:33] <wvd> How do I see which ports are open?
[11:33] <LP> wvd: sorry if interrupting, maybe netstat can help?
[11:34] <Gwince|Work> wvd: netstat -nr should do the trick
[11:34] <wvd> LP: ah, you're right.
[11:34] <SnowyDog> quit
[11:34] <SnowyDog> er
[11:34] <SnowyDog> shut
[11:34] <Gwince|Work> wvd: Sorry, netstat -an
[11:35] <LP> anyone knows how to turn of IPv6 DNS queries? I've disabled IPv6, but still for example wget first issue a AAAA lookup, then after 10 seconds a A lookup...
[11:36] <moreece> damn this is a lot of removing
[11:37] <dnivra_> can anyone help me out with connecting to internet in karmic?
[11:38] <MASARUwota> dnivra_: please explain what you want to do, if you want to configure a wired or wireless connection etc.
[11:38] <JuanJOBC2> Well I try to access the help butI typed :help and I hit enter and nothing happens, it just goes to next line
[11:38] <JuanJOBC2> Also :q to quit does not work
[11:38] <JuanJOBC2> I just keep typing there..
[11:39] <tasslehoff> I want to use VNC on Ubuntu to connect to my Windows laptop. Any advice on what VNC server/client I should use on the two sides?
[11:39] <[BIOS]arvind> how do I connect to internet in karmic?
[11:39] <JuanJOBC2> tasslehoff, remote desktop at your Windows machien side, and Terminal Server Client at the Ubuntu machine side
[11:39] <[BIOS]arvind> network manager just keeps trying and doesn't work at all
[11:39] <MASARUwota> [BIOS]arvind: explain it in more detail
[11:39] <MASARUwota> !doesntwork|[BIOS]arvind
[11:40] <JuanJOBC2> Do I have to enable something in VIM to write commands as :q or :help??
[11:40] <[BIOS]arvind> MASARUwota: well I create the DSL connection in network manager and it keeps trying to connect and ultimately disconnects
[11:41] <MASARUwota> [BIOS]arvind, just a normal wired connection?
[11:41] <tasslehoff> JuanJOBC2: thanks
[11:41] <[BIOS]arvind> MASARUwota: normal wired DSL connection
[11:43] <th3_b0b> Hi! I'm running Ubuntu 9.10 with the default CUPS 1.4.1. My Problem: I cannot select the Paper size I want to print to (The dropdown is inactive). The printer (and it's ppd-file) support various sizes up to A3... error_log is empty.
[11:43] <one> hi all
[11:43] <MASARUwota> !hi| one
[11:43] <one> this might be admitting too much but is there like an idiots guide to linux channel?
[11:43] <moreece> oh no
[11:44] <moreece> now my machine has restarted and its says error 15: file not found -> press any key to continue
[11:44] <[BIOS]arvind> network manager's failing to conenct to DSL, so is there any other way to connect to internet?
[11:44] <moreece> if i do that it gives me the ubuntu 9.10 metest86 option only :(
[11:44] <moreece> only to go back around in a circle
[11:44] <moreece> will I even get this right?
[11:45] <MASARUwota> [BIOS]arvind, try opening a terminal and running dhcpcd <interface>
[11:46] <[BIOS]arvind> MASARUwota: which interface: ethernet or the pppoe one?
[11:46] <Slart> one: not that I know of.. but we try answer all questions in here.. well.. as long as they are ubuntu related
[11:47] <[BIOS]arvind> MASARUwota: i don't have dhcpcd installed.
[11:47] <Slart> one: this might be a good starting read as well.. it's based on an earlier version of ubuntu but most of it is still valid http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com
[11:47] <MASARUwota> [BIOS]arvind, another possibility is WICD, the networkmanager alternative, which is lighter and just overall better =)
[11:48] <[BIOS]arvind> MASARUwota: but I can't install anything without the internet can I?
[11:48] <MASARUwota> [BIOS]arvind, you are correct
[11:48] <MASARUwota> ;/
[11:49] <[BIOS]arvind> MASARUwota: I read that network manager has a bug in Karmic and doesn't work with DSL. is there any solution to this; a workaround or something?
[11:49] <incorrect> other than dia and openoffice, what diagram tools are there?
[11:49] <[BIOS]arvind> MASARUwota: I tried pppoeconf but it didn't work.
[11:49] <MASARUwota> if you dont use wireless internet, you should just enable modprobe and netcfg to do the network things, like every linux distro does out of the box. :X except ubuntu, which wants to be user-friendly, and thus, some of those apps just dont work as they should.
[11:50] <moreece> ok now how to I re-install my desktop, and should I take this opportunity to explore another desktop aletnative?
[11:50] <MASARUwota> moreece: make sure to clean up the config files in your home dir
[11:50] <[BIOS]arvind> MASARUwota: Thing is that a friend of mine configured my internet to work using pppoeconf but it doesn't work now when I do "pon dsl"
[11:51] <MASARUwota> moreece: also, yes. try installing a desktop environment/window manager of yoru preference
[11:51] <MASARUwota> [BIOS]arvind: dunno then
[11:51] <[BIOS]arvind> says that the file /etc/ppp/peers/dsl file is missing.
[11:51] <MASARUwota> !networkmanager|[BIOS]arvind
[11:51] <Slart> incorrect: there are some command line stuff
[11:52] <MASARUwota> !dsl|[BIOS]arvind
[11:52] <MASARUwota> there you go
[11:52] <Slart> incorrect: you could go with something like inkscape as well.. but that's more of a vector graphics editor than a diagram tool
[11:52] <JuanJOBC2> I am opening a PHP file with VIM but the syntax is not highlighted
[11:52] <JuanJOBC2> Is it another package?
[11:53] <MASARUwota> JuanJOBC2: i think you should tell vim to read it as a php file? try googling for that
[11:53] <moreece> ls
[11:53] <JuanJOBC2> MASARUwota, I just did: vim myfile.php
[11:53] <[BIOS]arvind> MASARUwota: I checked the documentation you gave me but well pppoeconf doesn't work; shows an error.
[11:53] <MASARUwota> JuanJOBC2: found it
[11:54] <MASARUwota> JuanJOBC2::set syn=php
[11:54] <incorrect> shame, dia isn't that great a diagramming tool
[11:54] <JuanJOBC2> MASARUwota, the manual says that VIM should know that just looking at the extension
[11:54] <moreece> MASARUwota: what should i look at in my home dir to clean up, and what apt-get can I use to get a new Desktop?
[11:55] <one> anyone got any suggestions as to where to learn more about basics in linux?
[11:55] <MASARUwota> JuanJOBC2: does your ssh client support colors? :p
[11:55] <JuanJOBC2> MASARUwota, yes it does, my LS are full color :)
[11:55] <geirha> incorrect: tcm
[11:55] <JuanJOBC2> :syntax on
[11:55] <JuanJOBC2> :)
[11:56] <JuanJOBC2> mmm
[11:56] <JuanJOBC2> it says: Sorry, the command is not avilable in this version?
[11:56] <JuanJOBC2> ??
[11:56] <incorrect> thank geirha
[11:56] <geirha> JuanJOBC2: By default vim is configured to vi compatible mode. edit /etc/vim/vimrc and uncomment various options.
[11:56] <MASARUwota> one: depends, do you want to know the graphical bits of gnome or the REAL linux things? (the command line stuff. what linux is REALLY like?)
[11:57] <geirha> JuanJOBC2: Alternatively copy /etc/vim/vimrc to ~/.vimrc and edit that
[11:57] <moreece> how do i re-install the normal ubuntu Gnome desktop?
[11:57] <MASARUwota> moreece: gnome-desktop
[11:57] <dsl_> can any tell me how to set desktop grid so icons dont overlap vertically? keep aligned only seems to work for horizontal spacing. googling shows problems others have had but i cant see a fix
[11:57] <MASARUwota> dsl_: in gnome?
[11:57] <geirha> moreece: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-desktop
[11:57] <dsl_> yep
[11:57] <MASARUwota> dsl_: dunno :X
[11:58] <FreeFull> Firefox doesn't see mozplugger for some reason. I checked and mozplugger.so is in the right place. How do I fix this?
[11:58] <MASARUwota> FreeFull: #firefox
[11:58] <moreece> thanks geirha
[11:59] <FreeFull> MASARUwota: I already asked there
[11:59] <indus> FreeFull: why do you need mozplugger?
[11:59] <MASARUwota> FreeFull: what did they say?
[11:59] <FreeFull> indus: Embedded midi
[11:59] <JuanJOBC2> but btw, does nano have a syntax option?
[11:59] <FreeFull> MASARUwota: To ask someone with ubuntu
[12:00] <geirha> JuanJOBC2: I believe so. Never used it though.
[12:00] <one> do i need to load the "Ubuntu software center through Root access to download packages?
[12:00] <Kottizen> I found this website: http://gnome-look.org, where should I click to find nice desktop themes?
[12:00] <JuanJOBC2> well, I am editing .vimrc but no option found for syntax so far
[12:00] <joaopinto> one, no, it will ask you for the user password to run with sudo privileges
[12:01] <sysd0w> hi
[12:01] <geirha> JuanJOBC2: Have you installed the vim package? It's not installed by default, only vim-tiny which does not have syntax-highlighting
[12:01] <JuanJOBC2> geirha, vim-common is alreayd installed
[12:02] <JuanJOBC2> geirha, which one else should I sintall?
[12:02] <geirha> JuanJOBC2: The package called vim (just vim)
[12:02] <crankyadmin> JuanJOBC2: http://github.com/crankyadmin/My-dotfiles/blob/master/vimrc grab my VimRC from that link! :D
[12:03] <JuanJOBC2> I am installingn it now
[12:03] <JuanJOBC2> LOL
[12:03] <bbeikke> hello eveybody,i'm new here
[12:03] <JuanJOBC2> I just realized this is a Debian Server not a Ubuntu one
[12:03] <JuanJOBC2> I realized when trying to do sudo apt-get :)
[12:04] <crankyadmin> debian uses apt-get, infact its where it came from
[12:04] <MASARUwota> !hi|bbeikke
[12:04] <MASARUwota> JuanJOBC2: #debian.   not that most things make a difference
[12:04] <JuanJOBC2> crankyadmin, yeah but Debian does not suport "sudo", that is why I said that, I had to do "su"
[12:04] <MASARUwota> JuanJOBC2: yes it does, you need to configure visudo by hand first tho
[12:04] <crankyadmin> JuanJOBC2: it does...
[12:05] <Kottizen> crankyadmin: Do "su apt-get install sudo" in Debian to get sudo.
[12:05] <JuanJOBC2> ok, anyway, after installing the VIM package the syntax is colored now
[12:05] <MASARUwota> JuanJOBC2: nice
[12:05] <JuanJOBC2> THANKS to you all
[12:05] <geirha> JuanJOBC2: Happy editing then ;)
[12:05] <MASARUwota> np
[12:05] <MASARUwota> JuanJOBC2: happy VIMMING
[12:05] <FreeFull> Kottizen: Su doesn't work like that?
[12:05] <MASARUwota> lol
[12:05] <crankyadmin> Kottizen: bugger that... I have no problem installing sudo... Hang on I don't even use Ubuntu.... I just hang her for fun! :D
[12:05] <JuanJOBC2> Yeah...I have now to learn how to use this thing :)
[12:06] <Kottizen> I found this website: http://gnome-look.org, where should I click to find nice desktop themes?
[12:06] <Kottizen> FreeFull: Hmm maybe not.
[12:06] <geirha> JuanJOBC2: run ''vimtutor''
[12:06] <Kottizen> crankyadmin: Okey.
[12:06] <crankyadmin> JuanJOBC2: :!vimtutor
[12:06] <MASARUwota> crankyadmin: me neither, just helping out newbs. BROFIST
[12:06] <FreeFull> Kottizen: You need to add a flag first
[12:06] <soreau> Kottizen: There is also kde-look.org and compiz-themes.org
[12:06] <crankyadmin> MASARUwota: agreed....
[12:07] <Kottizen> soreau: Okey, but in gnome-look, where should I click?
[12:07] <giacominomarley8> ciao
[12:07] <Kottizen> There are many categories. o_O
[12:07] <giacominomarley8> !lista
[12:07] <soreau> Kottizen: Where ever you want
[12:07] <wee_> http://www.southparkstudios.se/clips/sp_vid_150080/
[12:07] <wee_> ops, wrong room
[12:07] <MASARUwota> wee_: lol
[12:08] <MASARUwota> !girl
[12:08] <joaopinto> Kottizen, click in whatever you are looking for, we can't choose for you
[12:08] <MASARUwota> oh whow :X
[12:08] <Kottizen> joaopinto: I need to know where the desktop-themes are.
[12:08] <MASARUwota> kottizen: do you mean gtk-themes?
[12:08] <MASARUwota> kottizen: look in the gtk category ;/
[12:08] <joaopinto> Kottizen, so check the site, this channel is not for gnome-look support :)
[12:08] <Kottizen> okey
[12:09] <Kottizen> MASARUwota: thanks
[12:09] <Kottizen> MASARUwota: Does ubuntu have gtk 1 or 2?
[12:09] <MASARUwota> Kottizen: 2
[12:09] <joaopinto> Kottizen, 2
[12:09] <indus> 2
[12:09] <indus> long time 2 now
[12:09] <indus> !gtk
[12:09] <Kottizen> thanks
[12:09] <Kottizen> !gnome
[12:09] <MASARUwota> Kottizen: Metacity (or Compiz or beryz if you are using desktop effects) is the category for window themes
[12:09] <Kottizen> !gimp
[12:09] <Kottizen> !gui
[12:10]  * crankyadmin loves kde 4.4 beta 1... ummmmmmm!
[12:10] <MASARUwota> crankyadmin: i tried out kde4 recently, pretty nice. too much for me however :p
[12:10] <FreeFull> KDE 3.5 was nice, but then I switched to xfce4
[12:10]  * MASARUwota is an openbox user
[12:10] <indus> !kde
[12:10] <indus> !kde4
[12:11] <crankyadmin> MASARUwota: I like it... Funny thing is I used to be a Ratposion user....
[12:11] <MASARUwota> crankyadmin: oh whow thats like the total opposite
[12:11] <bbeikke> FreeFull: what hanppened？
[12:11] <FreeFull> bbeikke: I switched from OpenSuSE to Xubuntu
[12:11] <crankyadmin> KDE is just so well intergrated for development.
[12:11] <MASARUwota> crankyadmin: i guess im in the middle then, using a lightweight floating WM
[12:12] <crankyadmin> MASARUwota, I'd say so...
[12:12] <bbeikke> FreeFull: ^_^xdebian is  also perfect
[12:12] <crankyadmin> I have OpenBOX on my laptop... but it has recently been seeing KDE4.4
[12:13] <salty> hello all :)
[12:13] <MASARUwota> !hi|salty
[12:13] <salty> thnx
[12:14] <MASARUwota> crankyadmin: kde is too laggy for me, on my old laptop
[12:15]  * crankyadmin gets a new from work every year :D
[12:15]  * MASARUwota doesnt
[12:15] <MASARUwota> also, its terribly quiet atm
[12:15] <crankyadmin> isn't!
[12:16] <MASARUwota> yes it is
[12:16] <crankyadmin> I may have to go trolling in #windows
[12:16] <Daughain> Ok, so what exactly is KDE, and what benefit does the average user get form it?
[12:16] <MASARUwota> you get a nice looking desktop and widgets
[12:16] <MASARUwota> :X
[12:16] <crankyadmin> The K Desktop Enviroment
[12:16] <Daughain> WTF is a widget?? =)
[12:16] <MASARUwota> big shiny things on your desktop
[12:16]  * salty is looking for ubuntu on acer aspire one laptop
[12:16] <MASARUwota> ;/
[12:17] <Daughain> Big shiny things??
[12:17] <crankyadmin> You know what else is really cool with KDE is window snapping
[12:17] <Daughain> Window sbnapping????
[12:17] <crankyadmin> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUI_widget
[12:18] <Daughain> Gimme five minutes, then. :P
[12:18] <crankyadmin> Daughain: Windows snap to half the screen if you drag them to the edge
[12:19] <MASARUwota> crankyadmin: thats pretty nice
[12:19] <Daughain> That makes no sense to me.....Did I mention I am a raw newb?
[12:19] <MASARUwota> crankyadmin: doesnt awesome do that aswell :X
[12:19] <crankyadmin> MASARUwota: Not with the sex factor the KDE does it with.
[12:19] <MASARUwota> Daughain: try googling for some screenshtos of kde4
[12:19] <MASARUwota> crankyadmin: the glossy factor?
[12:19] <indus> !sex
[12:20] <MASARUwota> i lol'd
[12:20] <crankyadmin> KDE4 is super polished.. And in OpenSUSE its super intergrated. I like that.
[12:20] <Daughain> MASARU: I will, if a fresh istall of 9.10 speeds up firefox.
[12:21] <MASARUwota> crankyadmin: it is polished, i agree with that. whenever i used it i didnt have any problems with it
[12:21] <zozo> hello
[12:21] <MASARUwota> !howdy|zozo
[12:21] <LP> anyone knows how to turn of IPv6 DNS queries? I've disabled IPv6, but still for example wget first issue a AAAA lookup, then after 10 seconds a A lookup...
[12:22] <lorenzosu> After updating to Ubuntu 9.10 (and thus to GRUB 2) on a dual boot system I can boot with no problem in Linux, but can't boot into Windows... Try update-grub and it reports finding Windows, but then when I reboot it fails. The only feedback I get is 'GRUB'
[12:22] <GNUtoo> hi,what is not compatible with 64bit nowadays?
[12:22] <Myrtti> GNUtoo: windows XP
[12:22] <MASARUwota> LOL
[12:23] <Slart> !ipv6
[12:23] <zozo> java app sound abouts system sound, in karmic, could anyone help?
[12:23] <Myrtti> GNUtoo: seriously though, very few things. Do you have something specific you'd like to know?
[12:23] <GNUtoo> ok so everyting including proprietary things like flash,ati driver,java,wine are compatible
[12:23] <GNUtoo> altough wine and java are not proprietary
[12:23] <Daughain> I'm running WINE on 64 bit 9.10
[12:23] <MASARUwota> zozo: could you please explain your problem with a more detailed explanation.
[12:23] <Myrtti> GNUtoo: ati driver, I don't know of, java, flash and wine are AFAIK
[12:23] <GNUtoo> ok thanks
[12:24] <Myrtti> GNUtoo: with flash you need to know where to look from though
[12:24] <GNUtoo> ah?
[12:24] <MASARUwota> proprietary stuff is often slow with adapting to 64-bit
[12:24] <GNUtoo> ok
[12:24] <Myrtti> GNUtoo: ubuntu doesn't ship with the native 64-bit flash
[12:25] <GNUtoo> ah ok so I need to manually install it
[12:25] <Myrtti> GNUtoo: you need to go and download it from adobe and install/set it up yourself
[12:25] <GNUtoo> ok
[12:25] <Twinkletoes|W> In 8.04, when I changed /etc/network/interfaces (to add "iface eth0 inet dhcp"), immediately I lost my network connection and had to go to the physical console and restart networking to make it work.  How can I do this remotely without losing connection?
[12:25] <Myrtti> GNUtoo: then again, you could also try gnash or swfdec which are of course natively 64-bit, being open source and all
[12:25] <zozo> MASARUwota: java application in firefox, when gives sound message, system sound is aborted
[12:25] <MASARUwota> GNUtoo: or use the gnu GNASH app. but dont bother if you actually want to use flash, as its in heavy development
[12:26] <MASARUwota> zozo: so java doesnt give you any sounds? normal sound works fine?
[12:26] <isolat3sh33p> GNUtoo: Do you have problem with flash?
[12:26] <rjbgbo> REGISTER 210689bota rjbgbo@aol.com
[12:27] <MASARUwota> Twinkletoes|W: you can try writing a script?
[12:27] <GNUtoo> MASARUwota, personnaly I use gnash but the person who asked me to install ubuntu wants flash
[12:27] <lorenzosu> After updating to Ubuntu 9.10 (and thus to GRUB 2) on a dual boot system I can boot with no problem in Linux, but can't boot into Windows... Try update-grub and it reports finding Windows, but then when I reboot it fails. The only feedback I get is 'GRUB'
[12:27] <Twinkletoes|W> MASARUwota: I can do that if that's the proper way.
[12:27] <nelson_> hello
[12:27] <MASARUwota> Twinkletoes|W: there is no proper way
[12:27] <Twinkletoes|W> MASARUwota: I was thinking that maybe I'd edited the wrong file or sometihng
[12:27] <zozo> MASARUwota: java gives sound, but other apps sound are stopped
[12:27] <MASARUwota> !hi|nelson
[12:28] <MASARUwota> zozo: so ONLY java works? O.o
[12:28] <nelson_> on a confgure i get this checking for KDE... configure: error:
[12:28] <nelson_> ... check for kde bla bla bla
[12:28] <Kottizen> How do I enable CTRL + ALT + BACKSPACE?
[12:28] <MASARUwota> Twinkletoes|W: if you edit network conf, your network will die. makes sense IMO
[12:28] <zozo> MASARUwota: yes, but I have to restart other apps to get sound again
[12:28] <MASARUwota> !x11|Kottizen
[12:29] <crankyadmin> nelson_: What version of KDE?
[12:29] <Twinkletoes|W> MASARUwota: I couldn't find any info that said changing /etc/network/interfaces would immediately kill the network, I sort of expected the network to die only when I restarted it
[12:29] <Slart> !dontzap | Kottizen
[12:29] <Kottizen> Slart: Thanks.
[12:29] <nelson_> crankyadmin,  i dunno. i want one to be able to install a program
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> Hmm that gdm factoid needs updated to use 'sudo service gdm restart' or 'sudo service kdm restart'
[12:29] <Slart> Kottizen: you're welcome
[12:29] <MASARUwota> Twinkletoes|W: well, it seems that network deamon in ubuntu checks the file continuesly ;/
[12:29] <MASARUwota> Dr_Willis has returned~!
[12:30] <Twinkletoes|W> MASARUwota: Yup - it seems I learnt the hard way - thank you :)
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> Kottizen:  that enable alt-ctrl-bs is also a little different in 9.10 then in 9.04
[12:30] <legend2440> Kottizen: if your using karmic then   http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enabledisable-ctrlaltbackspace-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html
[12:30] <Dr_Willis> MASARUwota:  No i havent. :)
[12:30] <crankyadmin> nelson_: Fragmented sentence could you rephrase please?
[12:30] <MASARUwota> Dr_Willis: damn ....
[12:30] <matteo1990> Hi all, i having problems with the Wireless network configuration in Kubuntu. I am trying Manually with ifconfig, how i know the IP i have o insert?
[12:30] <indus> i dont think dont zap works in karmic ,anyways it didnt work
[12:30] <MASARUwota> matteo1990: do you have DHCP?
[12:31] <nelson_> crankyadmin,  i want to fix this http://pastebin.com/m25f78b17
[12:32] <zozo> MASARUwota: yes, only java sound works, until restart the other app: like mediaplayer
[12:32] <Dr_Willis> indus:  theres different ways to enable it  in 9.10 - i ve seen some web pages with info. but cnt find them
[12:32] <GNUtoo> By the way the computer is an HP with windows 7,and has 4 partitions used...and I want a swap partition for performance reasons...how can I handle that? I create the fifth extended partition and put rootfs and swap inside?
[12:32] <crankyadmin> nelson_: You need the KDE development libs
[12:33] <nelson_> crankyadmin,  i have that :)
[12:33] <MASARUwota> GNUtoo: you already have a swap partition, ubuntu requires one ;/
[12:33] <Twinkletoes|W> GNUtoo: The extended partition has to be one of the 4 primary partitions.  You can create your "logical" partitions inside the extended one
[12:33] <indus> dont zap is nonsense
[12:33] <LP> IPv6 disabled in Ubuntu 9.10, IPv6 (AAAA) DNS queries are still being performed.... on another computer with an older Ubuntu and IPv6 enabled, only IPv4 (A) DNS queries are performed... should I reinstall Ubuntu 8.x?
[12:33] <MASARUwota> !alsa|zozo
[12:33] <geirha> nelson_: Is there a problem with the kaffeine packages in the repos?
[12:33] <nelson_> crankyadmin,  i got it doing apt-get install kde-devels
[12:33] <GNUtoo> Twinkletoes|W, ah ok I thought the limit was 5 primary....sorry
[12:33] <indus> cant we do this from keyboard shortcuts?
[12:33] <indus> Dr_Willis:
[12:33] <Twinkletoes|W> GNUtoo: And yes, you can have swap/rootfs in the extended partitions, but grub will still need to be installed to the MBR
[12:33] <nelson_> geirha,  i dont think so why?
[12:33] <GNUtoo> Twinkletoes|W, ok
[12:34] <legend2440> indus: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-enabledisable-ctrlaltbackspace-in-ubuntu-9-10-karmic.html
[12:34] <geirha> nelson_: Just wondering why you are trying to build it yourself
[12:34] <boritek> hello
[12:34] <crankyadmin> nelson_: are they in your path? Because configure can't find them.... hence why it fails
[12:34] <GNUtoo> basically I don't know windows 7 or hp at all...I'll pastebin the partition layout
[12:34] <Dr_Willis> indus:  thers some gnome keyboard settings somewhere that can enable it. I recall
[12:34] <geirha> nelson_: apt-get build-dep kaffeine  # will probably fix you up
[12:34] <centerpoint> how can I use  screen keyboard?
[12:34] <nelson_> geirha,  you wont find it compiled
[12:34] <wvd> So I'm installing sBNC, it tells me that it's installing at /home/sbnc, but it installs at #/sbnc I think, how does this come?
[12:35] <nelson_> geirha,  done that build dep also
[12:35] <boritek> i have poppy sounds in games like Smokin Guns and Regnum Online, in the latter the sound goes off totally in the end. How can i fix it?
[12:35] <giacominomarley8> ciao
[12:35] <boritek> Sound should be such a basic stuff!!
[12:35] <nelson_> crankyadmin,  how do i see if they are in the path?
[12:35] <boritek> very important
[12:35] <giacominomarley8> !lista
[12:35] <intel_Inside> Hello there to everyone
[12:35] <Dr_Willis> boritek:  tell that to the hardware makers...   what game is giving you the issues>? all games? all wine games?
[12:35] <GNUtoo> mmm cat /proc/partitions or fdisk -l don't give the labels
[12:35] <matteo1990>  How to know witch IP i have to insert in the ifconfig command?
[12:35] <crankyadmin> nelson_: echo $PATH
[12:36] <GNUtoo> but gparted does
[12:36] <boritek> Dr_Willis: linux games, e.g. the ones i mentions above: Smokin Guns, and Regnum Online
[12:36] <nelson_> crankyadmin,  i got this /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[12:36] <boritek> these are cross platform games, native to linux
[12:37] <Dr_Willis> boritek:  never heard of them. so  are they written in java or anything else special>? how about a game like quakelive?
[12:37] <crankyadmin> nelson_: there is no lib in there.
[12:37] <Shogoot> hi people. is it possible to copy a block of cells 3x3 with forumlas from one sheet to another sheet in same document?  Using oppenoffice CALC
[12:37] <boritek> Dr_Willis: no not java, i guess its C
[12:37] <geirha> nelson_: aptitude search 'kdelibs.*-dev'  # Any of those installed?
[12:37] <nelson_> crankyadmin,  so how should i put lib in there?
[12:37] <boritek> and pulseaudio should be the culprit in my opinion
[12:37] <boritek> or alsa
[12:37] <Slart> Shogoot: have you tried?
[12:37] <MASARUwota> Shogoot: i think this is more of a #openoffice.org question
[12:37] <crankyadmin> yeah... /usr/local/lib
[12:38] <boritek> but in prevoius ubuntu there havent been such a problem
[12:38] <crankyadmin> and /usr/lib
[12:38] <Shogoot> MASARUwota gotcha. theyr not responding at all ;)
[12:38] <boritek> where pulseaudio werent defualted
[12:38] <MASARUwota> Shogoot: like always :X
[12:38] <Slart> Shogoot: or do you have a reason to believe it isn't possible?
[12:38] <Dr_Willis> Pulse audio ha been the default since 9.04 i belive not sure about earlier.
[12:38] <zozo> MAS
[12:39] <MASARUwota> Shogoot:doesnt copy and paste do that tho?
[12:39] <MASARUwota> zoz
[12:39] <boritek> Dr_Willis: yes, before that sound was good but since then there are a lot of issues
[12:39] <nelson_> geirha,  http://pastebin.com/m123a19a9 yes
[12:39] <zozo> MASARUwota: it looks like java used OSS
[12:40] <Shogoot> MASARUwota it dont. it does copy the formula, but it link the number th the sheet its beeing moved to. so if theres no number in say C3 the formula from gets broken
[12:40] <moreece> @#W!@#$ - ok I'm at my very ends
[12:40] <moreece> I am hating this ...
[12:40] <wvd> So I'm installing sBNC, it tells me that it's installing at /home/sbnc, but it installs at #/sbnc I think, how does this come?
[12:41] <moreece> open source fustrations
[12:41] <nelson_> crankyadmin,  geirha  be right back
[12:41] <crankyadmin> np
[12:41] <Zlobi> Hello, I need help with sudo make install, I would like a custom path like sudo make install /usr/local/etc/ices (yep, installing ices, it says "No rule to make target ..path.. Stop.") 10x
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> wvd:  the path #/sbnv makes no sence. You may be confuseing the prompt with the path.
[12:41] <moreece> now my ubuntu doesnt boot at all, I got my my orginal ubuntu 9.04 disc on boot and has an option to repair broken system
[12:41] <reactor_> moreece, ?!
[12:41] <wvd> Dr_Willis: cd /home/sbnc << no directory exists.
[12:41] <Ziber> How can I completely remove all traces of mysql-server so I can start from stratch?
[12:41] <moreece> but it doesnt do anything except give me the option to start a terminal inside my box
[12:41] <moreece> I cant do anything from there ...
[12:41] <Dr_Willis> wvd: syre its not in /home/USERNAME/sbnc ?
[12:41] <Myrtti> Ziber: sudo aptitude remove --purge mysql-server
[12:42] <reactor_> moreece, open source pawnz
[12:42] <moreece> useless
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> wvd:  or did you make a user named 'sbnc' ?
[12:42] <MASARUwota> Shogoot: cant help you then. i dont use openoffice myself
[12:42] <moreece> how are you suppose to repair the OS now
[12:42] <kickar_> hey how can i set gkrellm to load on boot ?
[12:42] <wvd> Dr_Willis: It was always in /home/sbnc before, but I got hacked somehow, got a new image from my host, and it keeps saying that it installs in /home/sbnc now.
[12:42] <Myrtti> moreece: by checking the filesystem, freeing up disk space, etc
[12:42] <manjula> Hi All:  i installed the ubuntu jackalope and my display is unable to show in 1024*764 resolution. can some one please help me ?
[12:42] <Zlobi> Hello, I need help with sudo make install, I would like a custom path like sudo make install /usr/local/etc/ices (yep, installing ices, it says "No rule to make target ..path.. Stop.") 10x << Ubuntu 9.10
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> kickar_:  use the gnome sessions/auto run tool and add it to the list of things to autorun is one way
[12:42]  * DarkWell suggests that xchat package should be compiled with tcl8.5 support for its tcl plugin instead.. since tcl8.4 is more or less oboleted when 2009 is over
[12:43] <MASARUwota> moreece: how about opening a terminal, configuring xinit, and running startx
[12:43] <crankyadmin> moreece: Boot of disc, chroot into you install.
[12:43] <wvd> Dr_Willis: I can launch it tho, but with this error: You cannot run shroudBNC as 'root' or using an account which has 'wheel' privileges. Use an ordinary user account and remove the suid bit if it is set. - Normally I just could run it with root.
[12:43] <moreece> all i want is a GUI desktop and boot again ... now it simply says error 15 file no found
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> wvd:  so your user name is 'sbnc' ?
[12:43] <indus> heehee grub error
[12:43] <MASARUwota> DarkWell: people who care about such things use better clients instead
[12:43] <crankyadmin> moreece: Have you been playing with partitions ? :|
[12:43] <moreece> do i want to excute a shell back into my box or a shell back into my installer
[12:43] <indus> moreece: hello
[12:43] <DarkWell> MASARUwota, what are you talking about ??
[12:43] <moreece> no I havent
[12:43] <GNUtoo> here's the partition table: http://pastebin.com/m53d3a490
[12:43] <Dr_Willis> wvd:  sounds like its in /root/sbnc   and  you are running it as root.. and it some how thinks thats a security issue. I dont think you should be running it as root.
[12:44] <manjula> Hi All:  i installed the ubuntu jackalope and my display is unable to show in 1024*764 resolution. can some one please help me ?Xorg file is not there
[12:44] <GNUtoo> what can I backup ?
[12:44] <GNUtoo> and remove
[12:44] <indus> !who | moreece
[12:44] <moreece> I uninstall my desktop X as my crappy ATI driver didnt work and wouldnt boot in X
[12:44] <MASARUwota> DarkWell: what i said ;/
[12:44] <kickar_> Dr_Willis,  i would like it on boot . not on log in
[12:44] <wvd> Dr_Willis: I need to make an account somehow, but how and with what permissions?
[12:44] <Zlobi> moreece, on your risk, but here, after I repeated exactly my previous install, I had most of the stuff untouched
[12:44] <moreece> no for some reason I cant even boot into my terminal
[12:44] <crankyadmin> moreece: Boot of install disc. and Chroot to your install, run grub-install and pray
[12:44] <indus> i have ATI driver and its nice
[12:44] <jrgp> manjula: upgrade to a more recent version of ubuntu. they include better video card support
[12:44] <indus> crankyadmin: how do you expect someone to know whats chroot
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> kickar_:  that makes no sence.. Unless you want it to appear on the GDM login screen.   since it is an X app with a GUI.
[12:44] <DarkWell> MASARUwota, well thats you opinion
[12:44] <MASARUwota> DarkWell: yeah
[12:45] <Daughain> indus: Where did ya find the ATI drver?
[12:45] <DarkWell> MASARUwota, i couls sai irssi is acrap client to
[12:45] <crankyadmin> indus: google.... it knows everything.
[12:45] <MASARUwota> DarkWell: you could, but no one would believe it =)
[12:45] <indus> ATI/AMD LINUX DRIVER 9.12 RELEASED
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> wvd:  no idea on what your setup is.. 'sudo adduser ircuser'  and set it up if you wanted to.
[12:45] <DarkWell> well irssi is crap
[12:45] <Daughain> Wooho.
[12:45] <manjula> jrgp, well if the resolution worked in previous version in this one it shuld work like that ? dont you think so ? i have a intel onboard 945gsm graphihc card
[12:45] <moreece> grub install not found .... great
[12:45] <Zlobi> moreece, on your risk, but here, after I repeated exactly my previous install, I had most of the stuff untouched
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> DarkWell:  i perfer weechat 0./3./0 these days
[12:45] <wvd> Dr_Willis: Right, but it can't have a 'wheel' permission or something
[12:45] <indus> the installer is million times better than nvidia
[12:45] <DarkWell> anyways it wont lead to anything by saying so
[12:45] <Zlobi> Hello, I need help with sudo make install, I would like a custom path like sudo make install /usr/local/etc/ices (yep, installing ices, it says "No rule to make target ..path.. Stop.") 10x << Ubuntu 9.10
[12:45] <indus> click to install
[12:45] <GNUtoo> MASARUwota, http://pastebin.com/m53d3a490 <- which partition should I backup and remove...I bet I should keep SYSTEM and backup and remove recovery?
[12:45] <MASARUwota> Dr_Willis: weechat is based on irssi
[12:46] <DarkWell> my comment is to try to contribute to the development of ubuntu packages
[12:46] <crankyadmin> moreece: grub-install not grub install
[12:46] <crankyadmin> moreece: but wait!
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> MASARUwota:  actuaklly the weechat guys would dissagree i belive.. and it has features not in irssi.
[12:46] <GNUtoo> MASARUwota, and I bet tar wouldn't work as backup tool
[12:46] <DarkWell> so its pretty up to date with what i know about tcl and xchat
[12:46] <MASARUwota> GNUtoo, LOL HP_TOOLS.
[12:46] <indus> !attitude
[12:46] <crankyadmin> moreece: have you chrooted?
[12:46] <moreece> grub-install -> /bin/sh: grunb-install: not found
[12:46] <MASARUwota> Dr_Willis: thats what i heard, dunno
[12:46] <moreece> I am root, this is from the rescue prompt
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> and irssi was based on whatever.. that was based on whatever.. and based on 'irc' .... and so on for ever and ever.
[12:46] <GNUtoo> MASARUwota, ok thanks can I also remove RECOVERY?
[12:46] <moreece> #
[12:46] <indus> whats a chroot
[12:46] <Ziber> Didnt prompt me to make a new root password tho
[12:46] <kickar_> Dr_Willis,  there is a gtk, but there is also a daemon ....
[12:46] <Daughain> indus: A long cigar.
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> MASARUwota:  weechat has many features not in irssi. :) ive dumped irssi.
[12:46] <Zlobi> indus try chroot --help
[12:47] <DarkWell> i use xchat or my own tcl written client
[12:47] <crankyadmin> moreece: no..... chroot
[12:47] <indus> Daughain: yes thats what they say here too chiroot
[12:47] <DarkWell> for irc
[12:47] <MASARUwota> GNUtoo: yes, but make sure to disable hp tools in your bios, or youlll get stupid messages during boot
[12:47] <kickar_> Dr_Willis,  i need to get the daemon running when user is not logged in so i can monitor my server from my workstation
[12:47] <moreece> chroot to what?
[12:47] <Slart> Shogoot: try paste special.. there's a checkbox for "link".. that should insert the sheet reference as well
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> kickar_:  never noticed.  If its a service ya would think it would setup to start automatically.   or start it from /etc/rc.local i guess
[12:47] <indus> !grub2
[12:47] <giuliano> ciao
[12:47] <GNUtoo> MASARUwota, ok is there a hint for disabling it into the BIOS...I'll look for hp tools string in the bios
[12:47] <giuliano> !list
[12:48] <indus> Daughain: http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/Pages/radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.36&lang=English
[12:48] <indus> Daughain: whopping 81 MB
[12:48] <Zlobi> Can smo please paty me some attention, I tried the forums...
[12:48] <Daughain> indus: Thanks! and I got plenty of room, so not worried there.
[12:48] <Zlobi> Hello, I need help with sudo make install, I would like a custom path like sudo make install /usr/local/etc/ices (yep, installing ices, it says "No rule to make target ..path.. Stop.") 10x << Ubuntu 9.10
[12:48] <crankyadmin> moreece: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=157250
[12:49] <wee_> Hey, can somone help me install http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=92328&forumpage=1 ?=)
[12:49] <Myrtti> Zlobi: you tried the forums? URL to your thread?
[12:49] <luckymurali> Hi to all
[12:49] <indus> Daughain: i need some help if you install it
[12:49] <Daughain> indus: Once I get my backups done, re-installing, so, figgered I may as well get the info now. =)
[12:49] <MASARUwota> Zlobi i dont think paths work like that? D:
[12:49] <manjula> i have intel 945GM on board graphic card and i installed ubuntu jackalope : my screen resolution is currently at 800*600. i use to work before in 1024*764 and at the moment at display manager that resolution is not there. can someone help me ?
[12:49] <Slart> Zlobi: there's some switches you can use.. search for "pre"
[12:49] <giuliano> ciao
[12:49] <giuliano> !list
[12:49] <Xepera> Does anyone know of a command to remove obsolete software, like the one executed in the distribution upgrade?
[12:49] <indus> Daughain: i cant see the new features as mentioned in the control center
[12:49] <Slart> Zlobi: you might have to do it in the ./configure part.. not sure though
[12:49] <Zlobi> 10x slart
[12:49] <knecht> hi there. i installed a new hardisc in ubuntu server 8.10, create a partition and mkfs.ext3 the new partition. Now i want to mount it via fstab, "blkid /dev/sda1" tell me the uuid, and i want to make an entry in fstab with this uuid, but there is no symlink in /dev/disk/by-uuid for that uuid. Do i need to restart a service? Or should i create it manually? Who creates this symlinks in /dev/disk/by-uuid?  THANKS
[12:49] <Chamunks> anyone have any experience with rtorrent's rtpg-www package?
[12:49] <crankyadmin> moreece: then when your in a chrooted envriment run grub-install
[12:50] <DarkWell> anyways those who prefere irssi or irssi based clients tend to call other clients crap...
[12:50] <indus> Xepera: its removed auto at upgrade time no?
[12:50] <MrCatEye> can I use gftp to test "atftp" ?
[12:50] <crankyadmin> moreece: you may need to run rehash first though.
[12:50] <Xepera> indus: Yes, if the user says to remove the software... if they don't it's left intact
[12:50] <luckymurali> I ma having a file which consists of some lines with different client encoding
[12:50] <soreau> Zlobi: First, why are you compiling this? Second, What commands are you using to build it?
[12:50] <luckymurali> how can i delete all that line using sed??
[12:50] <Xepera> indus: I'm trying to run it independently for that reason
[12:50] <MrCatEye> it seems to mee that I cant connect to the server
[12:50] <Daughain> indus: I prolly wont get to it for a few hours yet...Got about 150G to back up first....I'll pay attention when I do the install and let ya know what I get.
[12:50] <Zlobi> Myrtti: No need to be nasty :P No such topic like mine, only custom ubuntu installs in first 10
[12:50] <luckymurali> please tell me
[12:50] <indus> Xepera: use aptitude and it will prompt for it
[12:50] <moreece> ok but how do I recover now
[12:51] <Xepera> indus: There must be a cli backend... the user cannot log in to X
[12:51] <indus> Xepera: aptitude clean?
[12:51] <r40> join #ubuntu-ko
[12:51] <Myrtti> Zlobi: nasty? no, it was a valid question, but nevermind...
[12:51] <Xepera> indus: I'll try that...
[12:51] <Xepera> thanks
[12:51] <isolat3sh33p> what's the difference between apt and aptitude?
[12:52] <MrCatEye> aptitude is more graphical
[12:52] <Zlobi> soreau: ices is the client for shoutcast, online radio. 2. ./configure        sudo make    sudo make install
[12:52] <chilli0> Is there anyway to get a IRC on my background so that I can still talk to people and chang channels I herd there was a screenlet or something?
[12:52] <MrCatEye> i think
[12:52] <indus> isolat3sh33p: both are front ends to dpkg
[12:52] <MrCatEye> u have categories
[12:52] <MrCatEye> its like synaptic but for console
[12:52] <knecht> isolat3sh33p: apt is older, both can basically do the same things. use aptitude
[12:52] <isolat3sh33p> MrCatEye: I thought you use it in the terminal. :/
[12:52] <luckymurali> how can i delete the lines in the file where the lines are not recognised by linux
[12:52] <crankyadmin> moreece: I'm still trying to work out what your recoverying from....
[12:52] <sarthorks> i cannot boot without acpi=off, unless i keep trying for a long time. acpi=off turns off battery stats, and suspend capabilities. is there a workaround to make my computer boot without any problems WITHOUT acpi=off?
[12:52] <soreau> Zlobi: Ok then you want to do ./configure --prefix=/your/custom/path && make && [sudo] make install
[12:52] <indus> a cli based front end to the dpkg , although why is cli a front end i dont understand
[12:52] <DarkWell> are there any curses driven command to set/handle repositories ?
[12:53] <indus> but aptitude works where apt fails from my personal exp
[12:53] <luckymurali> any commands or hints ;(
[12:53] <isolat3sh33p> knecht: But apt seems easier.
[12:53] <crankyadmin> your error you posted means something as gone tits up with grub. grub-install should fix it.
[12:53] <MrCatEye> isolat3sh33p: yes u use aptitude in the console/terminal
[12:53] <Zlobi> As per: http://forums.techarena.in/guides-tutorials/1129057.htm but I want ices in a sub-folder of etc to minimize the mess
[12:53] <Zlobi> 10x, will try now :)
[12:53] <legend2440> Zlobi: the path is determined in the ./configure stage  read this under  configure https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware#configure
[12:53] <indus> knecht: who says apt is older?
[12:54] <MrCatEye> but it has a kind of structure, a simple interface, like midnight commander
[12:54] <isolat3sh33p> indus: when will apt didn't work while aptitude works?
[12:54] <knecht> indus: me, i have used it long time on debian before i first used aptitude
[12:54] <GNUtoo> MASARUwota, is there a doc on hp-tools somewhere?
[12:55] <indus> DarkWell: aptitude is
[12:55] <henkpoley> Is there a way to stop wpasupplicant from running (don't have wireless)
[12:55] <indus> DarkWell: sorry wrong answer
[12:55] <indus> knecht: ok ill agree then
[12:55] <indus> isolat3sh33p: i had some major breakage once with alpha and apt did nt work
[12:55] <[[thufir]]> would someone help me with dmesg output:  http://www.pastie.org/751697   ?  The pc spontaneously shutdown, but is now fine.
[12:55] <manjula> i have intel 945GM on board graphic card and i installed ubuntu jackalope : my screen resolution is currently at 800*600. i use to work before in 1024*764 and at the moment at display manager that resolution is not there. can someone help me ?
[12:56] <DarkWell> indus, i know i can use aptitude (long time ago ) i also know about synaptics, and i also know i can edit a conf file
[12:56] <nimrod> jaunty wont install on dell precision
[12:56] <GNUtoo> MASARUwota, because I've no idea on what it is
[12:56] <Zlobi> soreau: get a beer, you are great :)
[12:56] <DarkWell> but still i was thinking maybe someone made a command to handle rrepositories only
[12:56] <indus> DarkWell: hmm i know you from before
[12:56] <luckymurali> any idea please???
[12:56] <Zlobi> No errors
[12:56] <CQ> I don't understand ... fdisk -l shows a /dev/sde7, but ls -al only shows a /dev/sde ... any ideas?
[12:56] <soreau> Zlobi: You can buy me one because Im all out ;)
[12:56] <DarkWell> like you can do for portage's rsync in gentoo
[12:56] <isolat3sh33p> indus: I should try to learn aptitude then. :)
[12:56] <Daughain> indus: That driver doesan't show support for my card. =(
[12:57] <indus> Daughain: what card
[12:57] <GNUtoo> luckymurali, sed may be a GNU command so maybe ask #gnu ?
[12:57] <Daughain> X1200 Radeon
[12:57] <sarthorks> ﻿ i cannot boot without acpi=off, unless i keep trying for a long time. acpi=off turns off battery stats, and suspend capabilities. is there a workaround to make my computer boot without any problems WITHOUT acpi=off?
[12:57] <MASARUwota> GNUtoo: its a "feature" for newbs.
[12:57] <indus> Daughain: ok that card can only be used with the open source drver
[12:57] <luckymurali> GNUtoo,thanks
[12:57] <indus> Daughain:and it wokrs super
[12:57] <manjula> i have intel 945GM on board graphic card and i installed ubuntu jackalope : my screen resolution is currently at 800*600. i use to work before in 1024*764 and at the moment at display manager that resolution is not there. can someone help me ?
[12:57] <MASARUwota> i hate it when they add useless stuff that nobody who actually know anything about computers wants to use.
[12:58] <indus> manjula: i suggest using 9.10
[12:58] <Daughain> indus: OK, I just need to find the driver then. =) I didnt know what it was till today. =)
[12:58] <DarkWell> indus, why i ask is becuse im creating a script to automate some tasks i might want to when booting up from liveCD
[12:58] <Slart> !intel | manjula
[12:58] <indus> Daughain: its already installed ,
[12:58] <Zlobi> soreau: You know, free software not like "free beer". Besides, I am prabably away. Not worth shipping. ;)
[12:58] <GNUtoo> MASARUwota, ok but will it prevent the BIOS from working correctly?
[12:58] <indus> Daughain: its open source radeon driver, type glxinfo | grep render in terminal
[12:58] <dioscuri> how to open xps file in linux
[12:58] <Slart> manjula: not sure if it's fixed or not.. I don't have a computer with an intel graphics card myself
[12:59] <Slart> dioscuri: what is an xps file?
[12:59] <indus> Slart: dont believe it got fixed
[12:59] <Leoneof`> hi
[12:59] <soreau> Zlobi: Anyway, it is a common build system.. configure --prefix=$PREFIX or ./autogen.sh --prefix=$PREFIX
[12:59] <MASARUwota> GNUtoo: its an auto repeair feature for windows systems ;/
[12:59] <Callum_> Slart: xps file is a Firefox addon
[12:59] <Daughain> indus: says.... direct rendering: Yes
[12:59] <Daughain> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 (RS690 791F) 20090101  NO-TCL
[12:59] <GNUtoo> MASARUwota, ah ok thanks
[12:59] <DarkWell> indus, perhaps you know me from before i dont know
[12:59] <MASARUwota> Callum_: xpi is
[12:59] <Callum_> Oh xpi =P
[12:59] <indus> Daughain: then its working fine
[12:59] <Callum_> xps, not sure
[13:00] <Callum_> hang on, isn't XPS some Microsoft technology for printing to a file?
[13:00] <indus> DarkWell: i got nostalgic about the tone
[13:00] <indus> nvm
[13:00] <Daughain> indus: OK.....The driver is good....Not what I was hoping to hear, buit a start.....
[13:00] <Slart> Callum_: some kind of vector image format.. replacement for emf (I understand from googling)
[13:00] <indus> Daughain: what is the problem you have with it?
[13:01] <Aijse> not realy Ubuntu related, or maybe it is ... my coffee machine just broke I don't know what to do any more.... at all!
[13:01] <Leoneof`> hi, i did update the latest Linux Kernel in Ubuntu 9.10 , but after restart, nVidia is unknown, and can't install it, any help?
[13:01] <indus> Daughain: if you use 8.04 you get the ati proprietary driver
[13:01] <Daughain> indus: Primarily an overheat issue under heavy graphics use. Though, its beginning to look like its based in the processor, not the vid...
[13:02] <h4f> .
[13:02] <indus> yeah
[13:02] <indus> probably
[13:02] <Daughain> indus: Though, switching to ubuntu from Vista dropped core temps 40 degrees F
[13:02]  * Daughain snickers.
[13:02] <indus> Daughain: my proc reports processor wrong
[13:02] <Leoneof`> hi, i did update the latest Linux Kernel in Ubuntu 9.10 , but after restart, nVidia is unknown, and can't install it, any help?
[13:02] <indus> Daughain: always at 40
[13:02] <indus> c
[13:02] <indus> 40 c
[13:03] <indus> Leoneof`: unknown ?
[13:03] <Callum_> Slart: either way its not well supported at all, there is an XPS Document Viewer and Writer, IE8 also supports viewing XPS documents and there is a printer driver for printing documents into an XPS document file
[13:03] <crankyadmin> Leoneof`: identifying the driver.... ?
[13:03] <crankyadmin> Leoneof`: if yes its a bug ignore it.
[13:03] <Leoneof`> indus: i see message in startup about error with nVidia
[13:03] <indus> Leoneof`: show me the error
[13:04] <Slart> Callum_: I'm not really surprised.. perhaps inkscape has some kind of import/export plugin
[13:04] <indus> Leoneof`: what is the error you see
[13:04] <Callum_> All of which are Windows only and not of much use anyway
[13:04] <Leoneof`> indus: then i've to restart, see u later
[13:04] <luckymurali> how to deleting the lines from the file which contains other than ASCII character
[13:04] <indus> Leoneof`: what is the output of glxinfo
[13:04] <Daughain> 53 and 60 c right now.
[13:04] <indus> Leoneof`: no no wait
[13:04] <langley> how come that when I send messages containing ä ü ö, others only see some crap?
[13:04] <indus> Leoneof`: glxinfo | grep render
[13:04] <[[thufir]]> what does this dmesg output mean?  [    3.723101] PM: Resume from disk failed.       http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AZhKxkS1VyAxZGNtOWpncTJfM2Y1cmI3c2h0&hl=en
[13:04] <Leoneof`> indus: i've to restart to tell you what is the message
[13:05] <indus> Leoneof`: no dont
[13:05] <Leoneof`> >_>
[13:05] <indus> Leoneof`: just open a terminal and type glxinfo | grep render
[13:05] <langley> how come that when I send messages containing ä ü ö, others only see some crap?
[13:05] <indus> langley: no idea
[13:06] <nelson_> crankyadmin,  geirha  back
[13:06] <b3rz3rk3r> langley, looks fine to me
[13:06] <crankyadmin> langley: Charter encoding
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> Isent that a UTF-8 type issue...
[13:06] <crankyadmin> nelson_: o/
[13:06] <Slart> langley: send messages? like mail? or here on irc? using carrier pigeon? =)
[13:06] <crankyadmin> Dr_Willis: ++
[13:06] <Aijse> does anyone see a page when they go to aijse.no-ip.biz? just a test thanks
[13:06] <Dr_Willis> Slart:  semaphore!
[13:06] <Slart> Dr_Willis: there's probably a rfc for that too =)
[13:06] <nelson_> how can i fix this stupid error?
[13:07] <langley> on icq
[13:07] <jt1234> i need to prevent a keyring access request for nm-applet popping up, someone suggested I delete the keyring and make a new one with a blank password.  Is there a gui to do this?
[13:07] <langley> I'm using UTF-8
[13:07] <ScarFreewill> hi, I'm looking for something like webmin. According to the community documentation it does not work under debian based distro's
[13:07] <langley> isnt that supposed to work?
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> ScarFreewill:  it can work.. but is considered insecure/unsecure and  not safe even.. :()
[13:07] <Dr_Willis> !ebox
[13:07] <indus> jt1234: yes go to accessories > passwords and encryptions
[13:07] <crankyadmin> nelson_: I've forgot what your problem was
[13:07] <crankyadmin> enlighten me.
[13:08] <Slart> langley: probably something with the icq client.. I've used internation characters lots of times using pidgin.. with windows users and what not.. it has always worked ok
[13:08] <nelson_> crankyadmin,  the one with kde libs
[13:08] <indus> Leoneof`: hello?
[13:08] <indus> Leoneof`: i waiting
[13:08] <indus> you pasting so i looking Leoneof`?
[13:08] <ScarFreewill> Dr_Willis: do you use it yourself? I was hoping for a personal opinion. It's obvoisly better just to configure the things myself right?
[13:08] <crankyadmin> nelson_: Oh yeah.... did you add /usr/local/lib & /usr/lib to your path?
[13:09] <nelson_> crankyadmin,  how can i add that?
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> I got a video of how to change the 'keyring' password at  http://drop.io/dr_willis  indus   and Leoneof`  if thats what you are doing.
[13:09] <Dr_Willis> ScarFreewill:  i dont need it. any admin type tasks i do.. i can just do vya the shell
[13:09] <crankyadmin> export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/lib:/usr/lib
[13:09] <indus> Dr_Willis: thanks but Leoneof` has another issue but he is incognito atm
[13:09] <jt1234> indus: i can see an entry called "network secret for mynetwork", is that the one i need to modify?
[13:10] <matteo1990> hi all, i am trying to configure my wireless connection, i have followed the steps in the Gentoo guide but i cannot ping anything,  anyone may help?
[13:10] <indus> jt1234: cant say, are you under the passwaords tab? its there
[13:10] <crankyadmin> matteo1990: Try #gentoo
[13:10] <jt1234> indus: yeah
[13:10] <indus> jt1234: yes yes that one
[13:10] <indus> jt1234: netowrk secret bla bla
[13:10] <indus> matteo1990: why follow gentoo guide
[13:11] <indus> !wireless | matteo1990 use the ubuntu guide :)
[13:11] <ScarFreewill> Dr_Willis thanks. I prefer using cli, but since it's not a important server I guess I can play around with it a little
[13:11] <indus> Dr_Willis: what is that site?
[13:11] <filipje1993> hi all
[13:12] <matteo1990> indus i want to install the connection from terminal...
[13:12] <Dr_Willis> indus:  drop.io ? just a bolg/file shareing site.. its sort of handy
[13:12] <nelson_> how ddo i add /usr/local/lib & /usr/lib to your path to the path?
[13:13] <MASARUwota> !hi|filipje1993
[13:15] <luckymurali> how to deleting the lines from the file which contains other than ASCII character
[13:16] <MASARUwota> !elaborate|luckymurali
[13:17] <sarthorks> ﻿ i cannot boot without acpi=off, unless i keep trying for a long time. acpi=off turns off battery stats, and suspend capabilities. is there a workaround to make my computer boot without any problems WITHOUT acpi=off?
[13:17] <luckymurali> i have a file
[13:17] <luckymurali> which consists of 2 million records
[13:17] <manjula> Hi again>: ok i try with my other machine ..same hardware specs ( intel graphic 945GM) with karmic koala and still in systems--> preferences--> display --> has only 800*600 resolution only. i dont have 1024*764 resolution. how can i get 1024 resolution ?
[13:17] <MASARUwota> !enter|luckymurali
[13:18] <Johnaha> is python a visual language?
[13:18] <luckymurali> out of that few records consts of non ascii characters
[13:18] <luckymurali> I want to delete those records from that file
[13:18] <sarthorks> !enter|luckymurali
[13:18] <Dr_Willis> Johnaha:  define what 'visual' means to you
[13:18] <manjula> Hi again>: ok i try with my other machine ..same hardware specs ( intel graphic 945GM) with karmic koala and still in systems--> preferences--> display --> has only 800*600 resolution only. i dont have 1024*764 resolution. how can i get 1024 resolution ?
[13:18] <Johnaha> like
[13:18] <Johnaha> GUI's.
[13:19] <MASARUwota> !prayer
[13:19] <Leoneof``> hi
[13:19] <Johnaha> like c++ or VB
[13:19] <Johnaha> draggin buttons etc
[13:19] <family> good morning people
[13:19] <MASARUwota> !hi|family
[13:20] <family> i need some help
[13:20] <jt1234> indus: the message i get on login is that nm-applet needs to access the keyring but it is locked.  In the applications tab of the panel you pointed me to, it tells me nm-applet has read / write access, what am i missing?
[13:20] <MASARUwota> !ask|family
[13:20] <family> has anyone here played youtube video on a ppc ubuntu?
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Johnaha:  you are missuising terms.. C++ is not a 'visual'  there are tools to help build C++ apps with a nice GUI builder.
[13:20] <Dr_Willis> Johnaha:  Pythion can do GUI type programs.  and theres proverly some ides for it also.
[13:20] <Johnaha> great
[13:20] <MASARUwota> family: nobody uses ppcs anymore. youll probably run into compatibility problems with a system like ubuntu. imo
[13:20] <filipje1993> anyone has experience with installing stepmania on kubuntu :/
[13:20] <cousin_mario> hello
[13:21] <Johnaha> u know the pre loaded ubuntu apps, any made in python?
[13:21] <indus> jt1234: ok tell me what you are trying to achieve
[13:21] <cousin_mario> this is what comes out when I launch oowriter: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/openoffice/program/../basis-link/program/libsvtlx.so: undefined symbol: _ZNK11CntBoolItem17GetValueTextByValEh
[13:21] <indus> Johnaha: of course, all the games
[13:21] <Johnaha> ok, ok.
[13:21] <indus> Johnaha: all the gui windows is py gtl
[13:21] <sarthorks> ﻿ i cannot boot without acpi=off, unless i keep trying for a long time. acpi=off turns off battery stats, and suspend capabilities. is there a workaround to make my computer boot without any problems WITHOUT acpi=off?
[13:21] <family> MASARUwota , some people do .. don't dismiss nobody
[13:21] <indus> gtk
[13:21] <MASARUwota> family: *most people dot
[13:21] <MASARUwota> *dont
[13:21] <Dr_Willis> Johnaha:  Python is used by a great many programs. with and without a GUI
[13:22] <Johnaha> hows it used without gui?
[13:22] <MASARUwota> filipje1993:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69144
[13:22] <Dr_Willis> Johnaha:  time to go read some pythion tutorials..  it  can easially be used with the command line.
[13:22] <Leoneof``> indus: this is about glxinfo | grep render : http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d5e0e6495
[13:22] <filipje1993> uhm guys, im a linoob, who's running kubuntu. how can i install a programm which is inside a tar.gz file???
[13:22] <Johnaha> also. i chose it as my first language.
[13:22] <family> that's like assuming nobody uses MAC OSX
[13:22] <family> or Linux
[13:22] <legend2440> manjula: open  System>Administration>Hardware Drivers  is there a driver there you need to activate?
[13:22] <Johnaha> i know it can
[13:23] <Johnaha> but, what can command line programs do?
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> Flash for PPC i dont think has been updated since like flash 8 or 7...
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> Johnaha:  anything you want.
[13:23] <Johnaha> I dont see the point in them :\
[13:23] <jt1234> indus: i want to get rid of the nm-applet keyring access dialog on startup, the box is going to be put in a shop as a display. network access is required.
[13:23] <Johnaha> please offer an eg.
[13:23] <Dr_Willis> Johnaha:   you need to go learn some more linux basics then.. id say 80%+ of the os is command line programs
[13:23] <jrgp> JoAnneThrax: brouse the web, maintain the software, edit files/programs, edit images, etc
[13:24] <jrgp> literally, everything gui apps can do, just differently..
[13:24] <moreece> ok re-installed, back to my terminal
[13:24] <family> Well. I've successfully installed and setup ubuntu on a Emac without any problems.
[13:24] <moreece> anyone suggest a good desktop X
[13:24] <family> it runs great
[13:24] <Johnaha> ok
[13:24] <raindew> Есть кто ?
[13:24] <filipje1993> uhm guys, im a linoob, who's running kubuntu. how can i install a programm which is inside a tar.gz file???
[13:24] <indus> jt1234: ok then you have to say allow always when itaks for keyring
[13:24] <Dr_Willis> moreece:  what?
[13:24] <raindew> помощь нужна)
[13:24] <indus> jt1234: then it will never ask
[13:24] <family> but the only thing is the damn video
[13:24] <legend2440> !ru
[13:24] <rjbgbo> #ubuntu-br
[13:24] <Johnaha> so like, i can make a command line program.
[13:24] <MASARUwota> moreece: how much user-friendlyness or lightweightness do youwant?
[13:24] <family> playing video from web pages
[13:24] <raindew> ...
[13:24] <family> like youtube
[13:24] <indus> leoneof`so what do you see under system>admin >hardware drivers
[13:24] <chadi> Hi. I have windows 7 pre-installed on my laptop. I would like to install ubuntu in parallel, but I do not want grub; in other words, I want windows to have the mbr and from there, I have 2 choices, either windows 7, or ubuntu grub. Does anyone know how to do that?
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> Johnaha:  it takes all of like 10 sec to make a simple command line progarm in pythion\
[13:25] <raindew> А есть русский канал убунты ???
[13:25] <family> thta'sthe only problem
[13:25] <MASARUwota> filipje1993:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=69144
[13:25] <raindew> знает кто может ?
[13:25] <Johnaha> and incorp it into a gui. for eg like video conversion
[13:25] <FloodBot1> raindew: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:25] <family> oops that's the only problem
[13:25] <jt1234> indus: i see those options on most keyring dialogs, but not on this one, I'll check again
[13:25] <Johnaha> oh k.
[13:25] <Myrtti> !ru | raindew
[13:25] <moreece> well I want something with a package manager, and the ability to easily administrator services such as SQL, HTTP services
[13:25] <Dr_Willis> Johnaha:  thers a great many 'gui' programs tha are just front ends that call the command line tools to do the actual work.
[13:25] <Kingsy101> can someone tell me why my ubuntu 9.10 doesnt look like another install I have on a different computer? i.e the icons in the top right corner look different is this a simple change? or is it just cos I upgraded to this version and my other installs are clean?
[13:25] <Johnaha> thats what i said =)
[13:26] <Johnaha> see, i get it :P
[13:26] <indus> jt1234: if you set this password same as system password, it doesnt ask
[13:26] <family> Well.. it could be because you've upgraded.
[13:26] <nelson_> crankyadmin,  how ddo i add /usr/local/lib & /usr/lib to your path to the path?
[13:26] <indus> jt1234: delete all old stuff and create new same as system i think
[13:27] <jt1234> indus: i'll try that.
[13:27] <Leoneof``> indus: i see small window "Searching for available drivers", but nothing, even "cancel" is not work :(
[13:27] <Johnaha> so for eg.
[13:28] <Johnaha> a audio convertor. while theres like eg a % bar going on the conversion, a command line is runnning in the background?
[13:28] <Johnaha> doing the work
[13:29] <Leoneof``> indus? o.o
[13:30] <Johnaha> evolution mails made in python?
[13:30] <MASARUwota> Johnaha: what
[13:30] <MASARUwota> !nick
[13:30] <indus> Leoneof`: hiu
[13:31] <indus> Leoneof`: what is output of lspci
[13:31] <Johnaha> evolution mail was it made in python?
[13:31] <indus> Johnaha: go to their site for that info
[13:31] <indus> Johnaha: but a lot of the plugins yes
[13:31] <sarthorks> when i boot by manually appending acpi=off before boot, i can see my battery stats and suspend is possible. if however i make a permanent change to menu.lst by appending acpi=off, both the battery stats as well as suspend features get turned off. What is the difference between these two approaches?
[13:32] <Johnaha> ok
[13:32] <michael_> hi, i change my window manager to dwm, and after login it should be very quick to the dwm, but it is use almost 15 seconds, what is happend?
[13:32] <Leoneof`> indus: the window about Hardware Drivers is appeared now!
[13:32] <sarthorks> !register
[13:33] <indus> Leoneof`: good
[13:33] <indus> Leoneof`: so install it then
[13:33] <Leoneof`> indus: ok
[13:34] <MASARUwota> michael_: dwm doesnt show any windows, you need to input a keycombination to create an xterm
[13:34] <dfrank> hello All. A question about samba, russian filenames and mc: when i look remote dir in console, russian filenames from widows looking OK. But when i looking from mc - there's "???" instead of russian filenames. Locale is UTF-8
[13:34] <indus> Leoneof`: so you see your card?
[13:34] <chilli0> Hello why does this happen ?  http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1067   ( the alert is up second down somehow )
[13:35] <creature> Hello. My 9.10 system seems to 'stall' on boot due to something with my crypto disks (I have swap and /tmp encrypted using dmcrypt). I get "Starting init crypto disks..." then "cswap (starting)". Things seem to stall at this point.
[13:35] <michael_> MASARUwota, yes, i know that, and i use it for a long time, i meant, if  i change the window manager, the gdm login process will take a long time expert xfce. i use xubuntu.
[13:35] <Scott__> why cant kde use firefox installed by gnome default
[13:36] <Scott__> i have uninstalled firefox in kde and got cant remove branding erroers
[13:36] <crankyadmin> nelson_: export PATH=$PATH:/usr/local/lib:/usr/lib
[13:36] <creature> If I Ctrl+C this then the system will start properly, complete with swap. But if I just leave it, it never starts.
[13:36] <th3_b0b> Hi! What is the recommended way of debugging openoffice.org in Ubuntu? The default package has no debugging symbols and I can't find any additional packages that contain them...
[13:36] <Kottizen> Scott__: Do you use Opera instead?
[13:36] <Scott__> uninstalling in gnome now
[13:36] <Scott__> kott no i dont use opera
[13:37] <MASARUwota> michael_:ok, does it start any weird processes maybe?
[13:37] <Scott__> and when i reinstall firefox in kde using kde firefox installer it works in both kde and gnome
[13:37] <Kottizen>  /b
[13:37] <nobbit_the_crc> Hio all
[13:37] <MASARUwota> th3_b0b: try asking in #openoffice.org   i dont think it has debugging, because its a java application :X
[13:37] <MASARUwota> !hi|nobbit_the_crc
[13:37] <nobbit_the_crc> stickynotes saves the notes in ~/.gnome2/stickynotes_applet. I copy old data there, save, but it gets automatically overwritten by the server? what am I doing wrong?
[13:37] <om26er_> can i make my /home partition btrfs.
[13:37] <nobbit_the_crc> error message when trying to resave: File was changed on the harddisk
[13:38] <Leoneof`> indus:  small window appeared "Downloading and installing  driver" , it is at zero progress and not downloading, i'm watcing connection status
[13:38] <nobbit_the_crc> why can't i chnage the applet?
[13:38] <Johnaha> whats a good ide for python ?
[13:38] <Scott__> any reasons to why firefox needs to be installed via kde to be used
[13:38] <Scott__> if prvious gnome firefox doenst work
[13:38] <Scott__> who uses opera
[13:38] <Kottizen> Me.
[13:38] <Kottizen> Of course.
[13:39] <Kottizen> Firefox is shit.
[13:39] <FloodBot1> Kottizen: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:39] <Scott__> serious ill check opera out
[13:39] <michael_>  MASARUwota, no just normal, no wrong, no warn. maybe i should check the gdm log file, but i dont know where is it. and where is the gdm config file, maybe some check be done by it.
[13:39] <Kottizen> FloodBot1: Don't hilight me without a good reason, thanks.
[13:39] <Scott__> haha
[13:39] <elky> Kottizen, swearing is not appropriate here.
[13:39] <Scott__> floodbot is a bit moody tonight
[13:39] <Dr_Willis> I use firefox in KDE with no hassles...   I dident have to reinsatllit 'via kde' *whatever that means*
[13:39] <Kottizen> Scott__: It has billion of nice features. Find a nice theme and then explore everything. :)
[13:39] <Kottizen> elky: I didn't swear? :O
[13:40] <crankyadmin> Johnaha: Monodevelop <--- Good IDE for python
[13:40] <nobbit_the_crc> can any1 help me? thanks
[13:40] <Zanzi> hy
[13:40] <nobbit_the_crc> hi
[13:40] <Kottizen> nobbit_the_crc: What's your problem?
[13:40] <elky> Kottizen, i do believe the s word you used was. please refrain from using it in this channel in the future.
[13:40] <nobbit_the_crc> read above or wait, I'll type again
[13:40] <Johnaha> really?
[13:40] <Scott__> when i installed kde i was in gnome i now have both i booted into kde and could not use firefox until i uninstalled it in gnome and reinstalled it in kde
[13:40] <Kottizen> elky: Quote me, because I didn't notice I sweared.
[13:41] <nobbit_the_crc> stickynotes saves the notes in ~/.gnome2/stickynotes_applet. I copy old data there, save, but it gets automatically overwritten by the server? what am I doing wrong?
[13:41] <elky> Kottizen, your comment about firefox.
[13:41] <nobbit_the_crc> error message when trying to resave: File was changed on the harddisk
[13:41] <Scott__> you said fire fox is shit
[13:41] <Scott__> kot
[13:41] <Myrtti> Scott__: and you don't need to repeat him
[13:41] <nobbit_the_crc> why can't i chnage the applet?
[13:41] <Scott__> sorry
[13:41] <Kottizen> elky: Oh, you mean the s*h*i*t-word. In my country, that's far away from a swearword.
[13:41] <Quan-Time> ffs drop it, who cares
[13:41] <Scott__> my bad
[13:41] <elky> Scott__, dont repeat bad behaviour.
[13:41] <Leoneof`> :(
[13:41] <crankyadmin> Johnaha: yeah... if you want a IDE monodevelop is bloodly good. Supirsing as it sounds.
[13:41] <elky> Kottizen, in this channel it is.
[13:41] <Scott__> i wont he asked
[13:41] <elky> !guidelines
[13:42] <Johnaha> ok sweet
[13:42] <Johnaha> ty
[13:42] <Quan-Time> elky: stop being a little douche and let it go.. you made your point.. everyone doesnt care. you are the one dragging it out. end of story
[13:42] <Johnaha> idont see python lol
[13:42] <nobbit_the_crc> errmm????
[13:42] <lexsoOr> !bash
[13:42] <chilli0> Hello why does this happen ?  http://imgbin.org/index.php?page=image&id=1067   ( the alert is up second down somehow )
[13:42] <th3_b0b> MASARUwota: U sure it is? Then why can I run it without a JRE installed?
[13:42] <Scott__> remember the days of msn chat the moderater bots werent even this quick
[13:42] <elky> Quan-Time, that sort of attitude is not welcome here either. please read the guidelines wiki page.
[13:43] <Leoneof`> there are dpkg working in the background, how to kill it?
[13:43] <Leoneof`> o.O
[13:43] <Johnaha> sudo kill
[13:43] <lexsoOr> Scott_: yeah
[13:43] <j416> wow is this ubuntu?
[13:43] <Johnaha> LOL (I dunno)
[13:43] <Leoneof`> name it
[13:43] <j416> it was such a long time I saw the ubuntu gui last time..
[13:43] <j416> kde?
[13:43] <Kottizen> Quan-Time: I think he's an operator in this channel and want to show his power.
[13:43] <chilli0> j416,  Are you talkin to me ?
[13:43] <family> the default gui for ubuntu is Gnome
[13:44] <j416> I was just asking generally
[13:44] <chadi> Hi. Sorry for re-asking, I got no reply. I have windows 7 pre-installed on my laptop. I would like to install ubuntu in parallel, but I do not want grub to be my MBR; in other words, I want windows to have the MBR where I have 2 choices, either windows 7, or ubuntu grub. Does anyone know if this can be done, and how?
[13:44] <crankyadmin> Johnaha: http://imgur.com/VLXYn.png
[13:44] <j416> your screenshot looks nic
[13:44] <j416> nice*
[13:44] <lexsoOr> j416: :D lol yeah thats ubuntu
[13:44] <airtonix> !who | j416
[13:44] <family> but it also has a lot of other desktop interfaces as well
[13:44] <judgen> Hi im looking for a way to not show any apps that uses mono in the repos. How do i achieve that?
[13:44] <nobbit_the_crc> Lottizen - any suggestion?
[13:44] <j416> airtonix: apparently it didn't get lost
[13:44] <Scott__> power and authority
[13:44] <edulacomadreja> hi! i'm having a really weird problem with my ethernet connection
[13:44] <nobbit_the_crc> *Kottizen
[13:44] <j416> airtonix: and it was a general question for anyone to answer :)
[13:44] <Quan-Time> Kottizen: elky still going ? already made my ignore list.. its called maturity.. just ignore em.. mucho easy..
[13:44] <Kottizen> nobbit_the_crc: Hmm, nope, I'm sorry. :(
[13:44] <r00t_> hi im trying to install world of padman  and it keeps giving me the error "no perrmissiont o write to usr/locla/games. how would i fix this.
[13:45] <Myrtti> Quan-Time: move on yourself
[13:45] <nobbit_the_crc> me too lol
[13:45] <Kottizen> Quan-Time: Good idea, didn't think about that, thank you.
[13:45] <airtonix> j416, also try to keep your msgs on one line
[13:45] <j416> !tab | airtonix
[13:45] <Quan-Time> :)
[13:45] <j416> hm
[13:45] <Johnaha> Hmm, must be a plugin. I dont have it.
[13:45] <Myrtti> Kottizen, Quan-Time in general ignoring operators is a Bad Idea
[13:45] <sarthorks> ﻿when i boot by manually appending acpi=off before boot, i can see my battery stats and suspend is possible. if however i make a permanent change to menu.lst by appending acpi=off, both the battery stats as well as suspend features get turned off. What is the difference between these two approaches?
[13:45] <Quan-Time> chilli0: i looked at your image, im not sure what im ment to be seeing
[13:45] <edulacomadreja> i already tried: $sudo dhclient eth0
[13:45] <edulacomadreja> and it works
[13:45] <airtonix> j416, yes i am well aware how tab completion works thanks :)
[13:46] <Leoneof`> indus?
[13:46] <edulacomadreja> and...
[13:46] <kanzie> I need to be able to send mail from php to my external smtp with TLS-auth. How can I do this?
[13:46] <j416> airtonix: I didn't know what !tab was, the message told me to use it so I tried. :)
[13:46] <chilli0> Quan-Time, Top right The alert isnt at top
[13:46] <Johnaha> btw, what are u using? looks sleek =)
[13:46] <edulacomadreja> oh well, bye people
[13:46] <crankyadmin> Johnaha: though it was monodevelop-python (thats what it is in OpenSUSE) If you can find it, try it you'll never look back.
[13:46] <j416> ok, so I will try again. Is this (gui chilli0 posted) kde?
[13:46] <Johnaha> ok.
[13:46] <airtonix> j416, if you want to test out the bot commands i reccomend sending it a private message where you can experiment with it in private
[13:46] <creature> When I do manage to break out my crypto disks from this problem, I get "ginit: upstart-udev-bridge main process (481_ terminated with status 1." So that seems to be the root problem. Though I don't know what this is.
[13:47] <r00t_> hi im trying to install world of padman  and it keeps giving me the error "no perrmissiont o write to usr/locla/games. how would i fix this.
[13:47] <Quan-Time> chilli0: what alert.. the motorola connection one ?
[13:47] <manjula> sorry i am having some problems with my  Internet.... .. my problem is i have ubuntu 9.10 installed and its maximums resolution i can change from system--> prefe--> display is 800x600.  i want to use it in 1024x768 resolution. my graphich card is  82G33/G31 Express
[13:47] <zoug> r00t_: try sudo
[13:47] <judgen> I wish to make sure im no "covered" by the new patent deal from microsoft. How do i make sure i have nothing using mono on the system, and i wish not to be able to install it either.
[13:47] <j416> airtonix: well, you basically told me through that message to use !tab, and I did, using the same syntax as you did. :)
[13:47] <j416> sorry.
[13:47] <Quan-Time> manjula: correct drivers ? usual suspect
[13:47] <chilli0> j416,  Thats gnome
[13:47] <r00t_> zoug: r00t@Public-WiFi:~/Desktop$ sudo worldofpadman.run
[13:47] <r00t_> sudo: worldofpadman.run: command not found
[13:47] <j416> chilli0: oh .. cool. Default?
[13:48] <chilli0> Quan-Time,  Yes . It shouldnt be there ( it should be up )
[13:48] <airtonix> j416, no the general point of the !who message is to notify people that prefixing names helps reduce the confusion in the channel
[13:48] <chilli0> j416,  Yep
[13:48] <crankyadmin> r00t_: ./worldetctetc.run
[13:48] <j416> airtonix: I am aware. Thank you.
[13:48] <soopos>  How can you add a bash-script to Gnome session manager?
[13:48] <hebz0rl> i installed lighttpd under ubuntu 9.10 and want to limit the www-user so he can only access the /var/www folder. how can i do that?
[13:48] <zoug> r00t_: try that
[13:48] <j416> chilli0: neat.. might check out ubuntu again then for a desktop :)
[13:48] <manjula> Quan-Time,  i have installe xserver-xorg-intel
[13:48] <airtonix> soopos, pretty much the same way you would in a desktop launcher
[13:49] <Johnaha> crankyadmin: I cant find it
[13:49] <Quan-Time> chilli0: umm.. im not sure of the exact way to mod it honestly.  theres prolly some setting to give it a new cord.. but i cant help.  its only there for like 3 secs max tho isnt it ?
[13:49] <crankyadmin> Johnaha: hold up I'll have a\ look.
[13:49] <Quan-Time> manjula: and have you manually added any new res sizes to your xorg.conf file ?
[13:49] <r00t_> zoug: still saying it has failed permissions...
[13:49] <r00t_> crankyadmin: ^^
[13:49] <manjula> Quan-Time, there is no xorg file
[13:49] <zoug> r00t_: make it executable by its properties
[13:49] <Johnaha> k
[13:50] <soopos> airtonix: How can you add a bash script to a desktop launcher?
[13:50] <crankyadmin> r00t_: chmod +x worldetcetc.run
[13:50] <Quan-Time> manjula: umm. ok
[13:50] <kanzie> I need to be able to send mail from php to my external smtp with TLS-auth. Is this possible?
[13:50] <Myrtti> soopos: create a launcher for a terminal application that runs the script
[13:50] <airtonix> soopos, notice the "command" field ? it expects a absolute path to the script.
[13:50] <chilli0> Quan-Time,  Look here Its something with gnome
[13:51] <soopos> Myrtti: How can you create a launcher?
[13:51] <filipje1993> how do i open .run files?
[13:51] <Quan-Time> manjula: /etc/X11/xorg.conf ??
[13:51] <crankyadmin> Johnaha: Should be some help to you. http://audidude.com/blog/?p=49 :D
[13:51] <manjula> Quan-Time,  there is not such file
[13:51] <Slart> filipje1993: try "sh blabla.run"
[13:51] <manjula> Quan-Time,  there is no such file
[13:51] <airtonix> soopos, http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/35078/screenshot_003_0gVdtP.png
[13:51] <Quan-Time> manjula: interesting.
[13:52] <manjula> Quan-Time, yeah thats the problem
[13:52] <Quan-Time> chilli0: ok.. umm.. im honestly not sure.
[13:52] <zoug> r00t_: you can do it by right-clicking it and then select properties and then check the "allow exexuting.." OR chmod 755 worldofpadman.run
[13:52] <shashike> hi  all
[13:52] <Quan-Time> manjula: so your in gnome / kde / some environment currently ?
[13:52] <airtonix> soopos, you need to make sure your script has the correct enviroment engine header.
[13:52] <manjula> gnome
[13:52] <manjula> Quan-Time, gnome
[13:53] <Johnaha> reading
[13:53] <soopos> airtonix: How can you start up the given program from terminal
[13:53] <chilli0> Quan-Time,  Let me show ya See where the volume is ? Thats where the other alert should be http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=76346
[13:53] <Quan-Time> kk. umm.. not a intel gfx user so im honestly not sure. tried the forums ?
[13:53] <shashike> can  some  one  suggest  ubuntu vs mint
[13:53] <john11> hi
[13:53] <crankyadmin> shashike: OpenSUSE
[13:54] <filipje1993> Slart: cant open blabla.run
[13:54] <shashike> why  openSUSE>>
[13:54] <airtonix> soopos, 1) script needs appropriate script engine header, 2) script needs its executable bit set on 3) simply enter the path and file to the script and press enter (or just the filename if you are in the same directory as the script )
[13:54] <john11> is it possible to have latest version of software, without update to new release, for example i have 8.10 but want to install pidgin 2.6.4 ,
[13:54] <Quan-Time> chilli0: heh. its an alert.. its incase something else is there.. so its perm lower. you can swap them around, but i dont think they can occupy the same space.. incase you have the vol slider up, and you get some alert.. its to prevent conflicts im guessing
[13:54] <crankyadmin> shashike: Dosen't treat you like you dumb.
[13:54] <Quan-Time> chilli0: i cant 100% guarantee that, BUT its a fairly safe bet
[13:55] <Slyone> Hey guys, i want to make my panel transparent, but the pidgin icon has white background, can i change that?
[13:55] <zoug> john11: ofcourse you can chk synaptic if it has it
[13:55] <devD> I have errors while starting karmic. please have a look in this pic and read not too http://twitpic.com/uheqf
[13:55] <airtonix> soopos, maybe this will help you start : http://www.go2linux.org/starting-with-shell-script
[13:55] <Slart> filipje1993: then you've probably spelled it wrong or something.. Blabla isn't the same as blabla in linux
[13:55] <Slart> filipje1993: use tab to autocomplete..
[13:55] <filipje1993> ?
[13:55] <soopos> airtonix: It is gnome-session-properties
[13:56] <Slyone> Hey guys, i want to make my panel transparent, but the pidgin icon has white background, can i change that?
[13:56] <airtonix> soopos, yes that is what you run for the session editor..
[13:56] <john11> zoug: no new version availabe at add remove software
[13:56] <airtonix> Slyone, re-compile pidgn with your own options
[13:56] <Quan-Time> Slyone: yes.. you can manually choose its icon.. if you grab some icon you want.. say google images.. edit it in gimp, set a "alpha" channel.. and it will be transperant
[13:56] <epinky> Slyone: I don't think that's possible, maybe recompiling pidgin from source
[13:56] <kanzie> noone knows about mail and tls-auth
[13:57] <Quan-Time> ive done it with utorrent and RUSHftp,, works fine
[13:57] <Slyone> But the icon is not a shortcut
[13:57] <Quan-Time> true.. you can edit the icon it uses
[13:57] <airtonix> Quan-Time, unfortunatly not all programs behave this way
[13:57] <zoug> john11: download the latest from the website
[13:57] <manjula> ???????????????????
[13:57] <Quan-Time> serious ? thats weird..
[13:57] <Quan-Time> sorry for the dud info !
[13:57] <airtonix> Quan-Time, yes (it would be desired)
[13:57] <CQ> is http://packages.ubuntu.com/ down ?
[13:57] <Quan-Time> ive done it twice, worked fine each time.. err.. umm.. honestly not sure then
[13:58] <Quan-Time> i use pidgin, but i dont click it.. it just starts in my session.. no worries
[13:58] <airtonix> Quan-Time, some do so its not totally misleading
[13:58] <heterosankari> yep its down. CQ
[13:58] <Quan-Time> and it matches my setup scheme..
[13:58] <Johnaha> wont let me install, other dependices conflicts?
[13:58] <Quan-Time> airtonix: still.. not nice when i give advice and its wrong
[13:59] <crankyadmin> CQ: Its up....
[13:59] <CQ> heterosankari: is there any other way to find out what the latest virtualbox version isß I have 3.0.12 installed, on teh website 3.1.2 is out ...
[13:59] <airtonix> Quan-Time, its not really because of the icon though, its how the apps sets itself up in the system tray.
[13:59] <Johnaha> damn, im gonna choose a diffrent ide.
[14:00] <CQ> crankyadmin: weird... maybe it's just eternally slow today
[14:00] <airtonix> Quan-Time, other annoying apps the at do this : beagle, gMusicBrowser, various panel applets...
[14:00] <crankyadmin> CQ: It is slow.....
[14:00] <Quan-Time> oh wait.. pidgin is a LIVE icon thing. it changes per your status, etc..
[14:00] <Quan-Time> prolly why you cant do anything about it
[14:00] <Quan-Time> makes sense now
[14:01] <airtonix> Quan-Time, no. see above. those status icons come from your icon theme
[14:01] <Quan-Time> airtonix: serious ? weird. either way.
[14:01] <airtonix> Quan-Time, vis : http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/35079/screenshot_004_HckC8n.png
[14:02] <Scott__> is anyone using testdrive and testing Lucid
[14:02] <Quan-Time> airtonix: weird. that would drive me nuts
[14:03] <Slart> Scott__: ask in #ubuntu+1
[14:03] <airtonix> Quan-Time, true, i gave up long time ago wanting a transparent panel.
[14:03] <Scott__> ok
[14:03] <manjula> sorry i am having some problems with my  Internet.... .. my problem is i have ubuntu 9.10 installed and its maximums resolution i can change from system--> prefe--> display is 800x600.  i want to use it in 1024x768 resolution. my graphich card is  82G33/G31 Express
[14:03] <judgen> airtonix, you could use awn and make it fold out like the panel.
[14:03] <judgen> t4
[14:03] <airtonix> judgen, i use docky instead.
[14:04] <imagodei> hello ppl
[14:04] <indus> !who
[14:04] <indus> manjula:
[14:04] <Slart> manjula: check the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log .. it lists what X thinks of your graphics card, monitor and so on
[14:04] <imagodei> linux noob here, got two problems currently
[14:04] <imagodei> working on 9.04 servre
[14:04] <imagodei> server*
[14:04] <airtonix> imachine, keep it on one line please
[14:04] <indus> manjula: maybe try manually adding the resolution to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:05] <airtonix> imagodei, ^^^
[14:05] <imagodei> K :)
[14:05] <manjula> indus, how do i manually create xorg.conf ?
[14:06] <indus> manjula: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  its already created just edit it
[14:06] <jas72z> is there anyway to make my lcd monitor run at 75hz im using ati hd3850 card with ati driver can only get 60hz
[14:06] <jas72z> im using karmic
[14:06] <Spage> After upgrade to 9.10 I have a Java game wich wont quit normaly. Often it leaves a "sleeping" java process using 100% cpu
[14:06] <indus> jas72z: have you installed proprietary driver
[14:06] <manjula> there is not xorg.conf file
[14:06] <judgen> jas72z, why do you want faster refresh rate? is your screen not progressive?
[14:06] <manjula> indieross, there is not xorg.conf file
[14:06] <jas72z> indus yes 9.10
[14:07] <Quan-Time> manjula: still ? weird
[14:07] <MASARUwota> !bye
[14:07] <indus> manjula: then create
[14:07] <imagodei> so... it's bugging me with continuous "reloading /etc/samba/smb.conf smbd only" message. I have DHCP enabled on two ifaces, one is not connected
[14:07] <indus> manjula: aah do this, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[14:07] <manjula> ok
[14:07] <Quan-Time> good idea indus
[14:07] <Quan-Time> but why would no xorg file bxe there ?
[14:07] <jas72z> judgen u had nvidia card that gave 75hz its not essential but would have been nice to have the option
[14:07] <Quan-Time> -x
[14:07] <zoug> manjula: you can get help by typing man xorg.conf if you plan to create one
[14:08] <Myrtti> Quan-Time: it's created on the fly
[14:08] <judgen> jas72z, true.
[14:09] <manjula> indus,  i did dpkg-reconfig bt still it doesnt show a xorg file in my /etc/X11
[14:09] <manjula> folder
[14:09] <linduxed> in karmic, why isnt the gvim command present when i install vim?
[14:10] <devD> hello is there anyone to solve my problem ^^
[14:10] <linduxed> and secondly, what do i do to install gvim?
[14:10] <Slart> !find gvim
[14:10] <manjula> indus, http://pastebin.com/m209e1459
[14:10] <Quan-Time> Myrtti: true, but how can you be in a x session without having a xorg.conf file ? thats the part i dont understand, and cant troubleshoot
[14:10] <imagodei> OK, here's everything in one line: 9.04 Server, DHCP enabled on two interfaces. Every 5 minutes or so I see "reloading /etc/samba/smb.conf smbd only" message in console. I wanna make it stop. Anyone?
[14:11] <manjula> indus, this is my /var/log/Xorg,0.log
[14:11] <Slart> linduxed: install vim-gnome.. or vim-gtk
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> X can auto configure now - it dosent alsays need a xorg.conf
[14:11] <Ziber> How can I completely remove mysql-server and reinstall it on a clean slate?
[14:11] <nelson_> how do i add a folder to the path?
[14:11] <coz_> imagodei,  if no one can answer here try the ##linux channel :)
[14:11] <linduxed> Slart: thx
[14:11] <Quan-Time> Dr_Willis: ohhh... that i didnt know.. cheers :)
[14:11] <Myrtti> linduxed: most people use vim on the commandline without the gtk frontend. That's why it's not installed by default
[14:11] <Quan-Time> ill remember that
[14:11] <Slart> linduxed: I have no idea why it isn't installed together with plain vim.. perhaps both kubuntu and ubuntu use the same base package
[14:11] <indus> manjula: to create any file in linux, just touch filename
[14:11] <Dr_Willis> nelson_:  export PATH=$PATH:/new/path/to/add
[14:12] <indus> manjula: for system files, sudo touch /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:12] <crankyadmin> Spage: Welcome to the world of bad Java programming.
[14:12] <indus> manjula: how do you know there is no xorg
[14:12] <Ziber> nelson_: if you want it to be added everytime you login, add it to ~/.profile
[14:12] <indus> manjula: did gedit give you some warning?
[14:12] <Ziber> How can I completely remove mysql-server and reinstall it on a clean slate?
[14:12] <manjula> indus, coz i  am looking at the folder in the terminal
[14:12] <indus> Quan-Time: yeah karmic has changed a lot, no need of xorg thses days
[14:12] <indus> manjula: which folder
[14:13] <manjula> /etc/X11
[14:13] <Slart> Ziber: apt-get purge or synaptic completely remove
[14:13] <Quan-Time> saaameeeet
[14:13] <indus> manjula:and what do u see
[14:13] <Quan-Time> oops
[14:13] <nelson_> Dr_Willis, export unkown comand
[14:13] <crankyadmin> nelson_: echo $SHELL
[14:14] <manjula> indus, now i created the empty xorg file
[14:14] <judgen> smoke
[14:14] <indus> manjula: ok hmm no guarantees this works
[14:14] <manjula> indus, ok no prob
[14:15] <indus> manjula: you need to copy from someone who has an intel
[14:15] <indus> manjula: and manually add sections
[14:15] <indus> manjula: wait ill show you my xorg
[14:15] <manjula> ok
[14:15] <indus> manjula: type this for now sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[14:15] <indus> manjula: then we shall see
[14:16] <filipje1993> okay guys, i've found this problem: Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libavcodec1d (>= 0.cvs20070307)
[14:16] <manjula> indus, i typed it
[14:16] <filipje1993> how can i solve this??
[14:16] <Slart> filipje1993: which package are you trying to install?
[14:16] <indus> manjula: see what is in xorg.conf now
[14:16] <manjula> indus, wait
[14:17] <filipje1993> stepmania4_3.9+4.0cvs20071107-0~getdeb1_i386.deb
[14:17] <manjula> indus, empty
[14:17] <Slart> filipje1993: not from the repos I suppose?
[14:17] <filipje1993> nope?
[14:18] <victor__> hello, i've followed this guide : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095  and now i want to install winff...
[14:18] <manjula> indus,  cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf is empty
[14:18] <indus> manjula: is intel isnt it/?
[14:18] <victor__> but when i install winff it install ffmpeg from the repository
[14:18] <john11> how to install latest versions of applications to an old release
[14:18] <manjula> indus,  yes
[14:18] <john11> is getdeb safe http://www.getdeb.net/welcome/
[14:18] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[14:18] <matteo1990> Why if i try to set up a wireless connection with ifconfig in Ubuntu i get problems and with the same settings with Gentoo Live i get no problems? Any tips?
[14:19] <manjula> indus, 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporatio
[14:19] <manjula> tegrated Graphics Controller [8086:29c2] (rev 10)
[14:19] <victor__> and... then winff can't convert my videos to the format that i want
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> victor__:  you may want to compile the latest ffmpeg to get all the features.
[14:20] <john11> matteo1990: kernels are different, possible
[14:20] <Dr_Willis> victor__:  or find some PPA or other repos for it.
[14:21] <victor__> Dr_Willis, ffmpeg is already installed following this guide : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=786095 <-- wich is the how to install the latest ffmpeg & x264
[14:21] <manjula> indus, can u tell me what is in  your xorg file please ?
[14:22] <farhad_> hello! is there a way to install skype without downloading .deb from skype website?
[14:22] <matteo1990> john11 the real difference is that i can't ping anithing with ubuntu after the same steps throught terminal... And if launch route -n with the same pc under Ubuntu i can't see any "lo" wireless device... do you know what it means?
[14:23] <epinky> farhad_: maybe using medibuntu repositories
[14:23] <coz_> farhad_,  you could compile it  I suppose   but why is the .deb not what you want?
[14:23] <victor__> Dr_Willis, BUT it uninstalls winff AND when I try to install winff with apt-get it installs ffmpeg from the repository which doesn't convert my videos in the format that i want...
[14:23] <plague> I cant eject/unmount my cdrom. it says DBus error org.gtk.Private.RemoteVolumeMonitor.NotFound: The given mount was not foun.
[14:23] <plague> it worked earlier
[14:23] <farhad_> coz_: because it is not a "clean" way to install software
[14:23] <farhad_> epinky: it doesn't work with medibuntu one
[14:23] <coz_> farhad_,  well  I am not sure what you mean.... but as I said  you can compile it
[14:24] <john11> matteo1990: sorry no idea about that
[14:24] <farhad_> coz_: yep. i will download it from skype website :)
[14:24] <epinky> farhad_: mine worked great : sudo aptitude install skype
[14:24] <coz_> farhad_,  check in that directory ...after downloading...to see what dependencies it requires
[14:25] <farhad_> thank you guys
[14:25] <matteo1990> Anyone may help me with the istallation of a wireless connection with ipconfig under Ubuntu? thx
[14:25] <Polysics> hi
[14:25] <Polysics> i installed 64bit ubuntu
[14:26] <Polysics> system feels noticeably faster
[14:26] <DaZ> Polysics: placebo <:
[14:26] <Polysics> but still "sees" only 3Gb of RAM
[14:26] <DaZ> Polysics: uname -a
[14:26] <devD> I have errors while starting karmic. please have a look in this pic and read not too http://twitpic.com/uheqf
[14:26] <nelson_> Dr_Willis, http://pastebin.com/m48a67e33 how do i solve this?
[14:26] <coz_> Polysics,  mmm  that's odd  ...how many gigs do you have onboard?
[14:26] <Polysics> DaZ, Linux luca-laptop 2.6.31-16-generic #53-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 8 04:02:15 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[14:26] <tritium> Polysics: it shouldn't be faster than 32-bit.
[14:26] <DaZ> Polysics: free -m
[14:26] <DaZ> :f
[14:27] <epinky> Polysics: are you using PAE  kernel?
[14:27] <Polysics> video playback looks smoother, maybe it IS placebo :-)
[14:27] <Polysics> epinky, shouldn't be needed on 64bit
[14:27] <Polysics> freem -m reports 3018 MB
[14:27] <sarthor> Hi, how can i install Arabic desktop ubuntu, in installed ubuntu Karmic
[14:28] <coz_> Polysics,  did you do a memory check ?  dureing boot?
[14:28] <DaZ> Polysics: 32bit kernel should see a little more imo
[14:28] <coz_> well 32 bit systems are limited to 3.5 gigs  of memory
[14:28] <Polysics> i'll now reboot and run a memory check
[14:28] <ik> Can Ubuntu grease a sloth?
[14:29] <coz_> ik,  yes and also skin a rabbit at the same time
[14:29] <sarthor> Hi, how can i install Arabic desktop ubuntu, in installed ubuntu Karmic
[14:29] <ik> coz_: do I need to install a plugin
[14:29] <sarthor> double post, Sorry.
[14:29] <coz_> sarthor,  mmm I have never been asked that before..... I am not sure let me check
[14:29] <nelson_> http://pastebin.com/m48a67e33 how do i solve this?
[14:29] <LimCore> Good job ubuntu
[14:29] <sarthor> coz_, please,
[14:30] <coz_> nelson_,  what are you trying to do?
[14:30] <coz_> sarthor,   yep hold on
[14:30] <ik> coz_: does rabbit-skinning require packages from nonfree
[14:30] <sarthor> coz_, I am here, Waiting....
[14:30] <Myrtti> ik: offtopic chat at #ubuntu-offtopic, thanks
[14:31] <dualboot> sarthor: Won't using  "System" -> "Administration" -> "Languages" (assuming an installed English Ubuntu system) do what you need?
[14:31] <coz_> sarthor,  you want the whole system to be in arabic?
[14:31] <ik> Myrtti: This is fairly topical thank you
[14:31] <nelson_> coz_,  comnpile a program
[14:31] <ik> Myrtti: Moreso than "ubuntu" is a topic, anyway
[14:31] <djsashadj> Всем пирвет)))
[14:31] <djsashadj> привет
[14:31] <sweetandy> ik: Not recent releases.
[14:31] <sweetandy> ik: If they "grease a sloth," you mean make old piece of crap hardware work much faster.
[14:31] <scunizi> !ru | djsashadj
[14:31] <djsashadj> чё
[14:31] <scunizi> djsashadj: type ... /j #ubuntu-ru
[14:31] <coz_> nelson_,   which application? do you have a link?
[14:31] <sarthor> coz_, is right, the whole system, not only writing text, dualboot
[14:31] <coz_> sarthor,  ok hold on
[14:31] <sarthor> coz_, Ok.
[14:32] <nelson_> coz http://rapidshare.com/files/119781903/kaffeine-sc-plugin-0.4.0.zip
[14:32] <cccdragon> Hi there. Is there a solution to install Ubuntu 9.10 Server on a server with RAID? (Grub 2 causes problems...)? thanks
[14:32] <ik> sweetandy++ # Thank you for being polite and answering my question rather than attempting to direct me elsewhere
[14:32] <ik> Operators these days -_-
[14:32] <djsashadj> ??
[14:32] <djsashadj> Тут кто разговоривает по русски?
[14:32] <djsashadj> ясно
[14:33] <coz_> nelson_,  ok hold on that file is being used so I have to wait
[14:33] <Myrtti> ik: understandable communication is a key to understanding
[14:33] <chilli0> Hi is there anyway to make my computer turn on in the morning and play a sound file ?  ( use as an alarm but want to turn it off at night )
[14:34] <Slart> chilli0: some motherboards have that functionality in the BIOS
[14:34] <Kartagis> chilli0, use BIOS to wake it up
[14:34] <scunizi> chilli0: some bios's have that feature.. never used it.. never trusted it..
[14:34] <chilli0> Ah
[14:34] <chilli0> So its gonna be kinda hard ?
[14:34] <zhane> how can I bridge thenetwork for my ubuntuguest to surf thru windows host?
[14:34] <Myrtti> chilli0: it's gonna be either easyish, or impossible
[14:34] <nelson_> coz Ok
[14:35] <chilli0> Myrtti,  k
[14:35] <scunizi> yep.. get a clock radio
[14:35] <Slart> chilli0: of course you could have a smaller computer controlling the powerswitch of the larger one.. preferably via a large contraption including rubber bands, levers, eggs rolling around pulling strings etc
[14:35] <chilli0> Slart,  Ermm nah
[14:35] <DaZ> Slart: wake on lan is less lame <:
[14:36] <Slart> chilli0: but I suppose you could just as well use the smaller computer to wake you up =)
[14:36] <coz_> sarthor,   check here   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400169
[14:36] <bastidrazor> Slart: do you have a patient on that?
[14:36] <coz_> sarthor,  although that is for changing to  spanish   es
[14:36] <Slart> DaZ: hehe..true
[14:36] <scunizi> Slart: chilli0 that's what I use to know as a "Rube goldberg" invention
[14:36] <sarthor> coz_, Ok. let me check there
[14:36] <coz_> nelson_,  i still cant download that pacakges
[14:36] <judgen> Anyone tried the new Zelda game for linux?
[14:37] <Slart> bastidrazor: as I was going to say.. I think Rube Goldberg has the patent on that =)
[14:37] <coz_> nelson_,  are you running gnome?
[14:37] <nelson_> coz yes
[14:37] <jdhp> how to i get to files as root?
[14:38] <coz_> jdhp,  which files?
[14:38] <Slart> !sudo | jdhp
[14:38] <coz_> jdhp,   you can open a terminal  and type   sudo nautilus  if you are on gnome  or  sudo dolphin on kde
[14:39] <Slart> coz, jdhp: never use sudo with gui stuff.. use gksudo instead
[14:39] <jdhp> like i want to get to my themes folder so can add some but i need to be in root
[14:39] <DaZ> coz_: using sudo instead of gksu on graphical apps is a blasphemy
[14:39] <DaZ> dunno why though :f
[14:39] <Slart> !gksudo
[14:39] <Slart> check the link there at the end
[14:39] <coz_> DaZ,   :)  ok I will try to use that for when asked again :)
[14:39] <epinky> nelson_: dpkg -l | grep kdelibs
[14:40] <matteo1990> hi all, i have succeded setting a wireless network under gentoo with ifconfig and route. I tried the same under Kubuntu (my network manager didn't work good) but my ping don't work... Under Ubuntu i get no loopback w device... Why?
[14:41] <jas72z> which ubuntu app is good for listening to internet radio? im using karmic
[14:41] <Younder> jas72z, rythbox
[14:41] <Younder> rythmbox
[14:41] <scunizi> jas72z: streamtuner, vlc, rhythmbox
[14:41] <soreau> matteo1990: It is possible you dont have the modules loaded for you card
[14:41] <coz_> jas72z,  there are several apps as already mentioned :)
[14:42] <jas72z> are there many with radio stations already listed save having to add them?
[14:42] <Younder> jas72z, add www.sky.fm and www.di.fm
[14:42] <soreau> matteo1990: It is also possible the network manager system ubuntu has set in place is interfering with your console efforts
[14:42] <nelson_> epinky,  http://pastebin.com/mc84feb1
[14:43] <jas72z> thankyou everyone
[14:43] <matteo1990> soreau maybe... How to set the wireless connection in your opinion (under Kubuntu)
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> wicd is also a decent alternative to manage the network settings
[14:44] <soreau> matteo1990: If you can use the network manger applet, use it
[14:44] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[14:44] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[14:45] <dignome> anyone here use libvirt on 9.10?  i'm seeing crazy memory usage after a couple days from libvirtd (almost half of my 4g ram is allocated).
[14:46] <richthegeek1> Hi - I'm using 9.10x64 with two monitors, one is rotated CCW, with a 260 GT gfx card. I can't get compiz to enable (desktop effects) and I can't figure out why. Any help?
[14:46] <soreau> richthegeek1: Pastebin the output of compiz from your terminal
[14:47] <richthegeek1> right, it breaks my window decorations
[14:47] <richthegeek1> Checking for Xgl: not present.
[14:47] <richthegeek1> xset q doesn't reveal the location of the log file. Using fallback /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:47] <richthegeek1> Detected PCI ID for VGA:
[14:47] <richthegeek1> Checking for texture_from_pixmap: present.
[14:47] <richthegeek1> Checking for non power of two support: present.
[14:47] <richthegeek1> Checking for Composite extension: not present.
[14:47] <richthegeek1> aborting and using fallback: /usr/bin/metacity
[14:47] <richthegeek1> Xlib:  extension "RANDR" missing on display ":0.0".
[14:47] <richthegeek1> soreau; thats all
[14:47] <epinky> nelson_: are you using Ubuntu-64bit?
[14:47] <nelson_> epinky,  32bits
[14:48] <soreau> wtf
[14:48] <soreau> richthegeek1: Keep it in #compiz
[14:48] <bzSmari> Ahoy. Has anybody been able to get the ath9k wireless driver working on Karmic on an EeePC 1005HA after upgrading? I've removed all the backports as suggested on the forums but still no cake.
[14:49] <richthegeek1> soreau: you are a cunt
[14:49] <chilli0> richthegeek1,  Language
[14:49] <soreau> richthegeek1: You need to learn how to pastebin
[14:49] <richthegeek1> soreau: its short output, no need
[14:49] <matteo1990> soreau if i try to use it i get near the connection name a yellow exclamation point and it doesn't connect :S (under gnome all worked fine)
[14:49] <StrangeCharm> i'm subscribed to a bug [#454898] in karmic. recently, i got an email saying that the bug's status has changed from 'in progress' to 'fix comitted'. if i download the karmic iso today, will the bug be fixed in that copy?
[14:50] <jt1234> still trying to get eebuntu jaunty to startup without intervention needed for nm-applet.  I deleted the keyring, restarted, specified a new password which is the same as login password.  Hasn't made any difference.  what gives?
[14:50] <soreau> richthegeek1:  No it is not short output and yes there is a need
[14:50] <chilli0> richthegeek1,  It was over 3 lines so yes it does
[14:50] <richthegeek1> soreau: if it was 300 lines then sure but you're just being petty. I try and get help and you kick me from where I'm getting it?
[14:50] <grawity> StrangeCharm: Release ISOs never change. (One exception was 8.04.1, I think, but even that was a new release.)
[14:50] <elky> !guidelines > richthegeek1
[14:50] <grawity> jt1234: Autologin enabled?
[14:50] <soreau> richthegeek1: You will learn to use a pastebin service
[14:50] <grawity> StrangeCharm: Only the repositories are updated.
[14:51] <chilli0> Weeeee
[14:51] <dualboot> sarthor: coz_ had a link to a page suggesting installing language-pack-<ISOCODE> - on 9.10 aka Karmic using "Language" I get it installed as part of Arabic support.  It also installed support for Arabic in Gnome and KDE and the corresponding version of the Gnome User Guide.
[14:51] <Ov3rf10w> wtf? xD
[14:51] <StrangeCharm> grawity, how can i build an iso of the release with the fix included?
[14:51] <richthegeek1> soreau: i know how to use a pastebin, just the channels I frequent are less strict about "X lines is too many". Seriously, arbitrary rules don't help anyone esp when no-one else was talking when i pasted
[14:52] <jt1234> grawity: yes - the machine is to be used in a shop as a display, so I want restart without intervention
[14:52] <gharz> scunizi: nothing happens when i run sudo tasksel... a window appears to choose the apps... checked LAMP server and clicked OK but nothing happened
[14:52] <elky> richthegeek1, the rules are not arbitrary. read the guidelines the bot directed you to read
[14:52] <grawity> jt1234: When autologin is enabled, Ubuntu _cannot_ know what is your login password, and so cannot unlock the keyring either. You must remove the keyring's password completely for it to be unlocked.
[14:52] <scunizi> richthegeek1: they are only arbitrary when you are not use to them.
[14:52] <StrangeCharm> grawity, the bug is in the installer. how can take advantage of the fix?
[14:52] <benjamin__> Can someone help me with my internet connection?
[14:52] <chilli0> richthegeek1,  Its in the guidelines so to bad. Doesnt matter about other channels
[14:53] <roracle> hey guys i have a question that i posted in the forums a few days ago, and no one has tackled it yet.  the link is: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1358817   i REALLY need help with this
[14:53] <grawity> !remaster | StrangeCharm
[14:53] <soreau> richthegeek1: I specifically said pastebin and you ignored that not once but twice
[14:53] <scunizi> gharz: what happens when you go to http://localhost
[14:53] <soreau> richthegeek1: Then you childishly call names. You deserve a ban
[14:54] <richthegeek1> soreau: paste/pastebin, easy to confuse. Didn't ignore it twice so much as read once on two channels. You kicked me from where there was someone helping me instaed of this channel? that's just a powertrip on your part
[14:54] <jt1234> grawity: so i kill the keyring daemon, delete the keyring, restart, and when it asks me for a new default keyring password, i leave the values blank. will it let me do that, i'll try it
[14:54] <resjudicata> did anyone get the poulsbo (intel gma500) to work on karmic?
[14:54] <gharz> scunizi: actually i'm running xampp from apachefriends... but i wanted to install LAMP from the repository... when i go to http://localhost it goes to my index.php from xampp
 richthegeek1: Pastebin the output of compiz from your terminal
[14:54] <grawity> jt1234: Uh, just change the password in 'seahorse'. (Accessories -> Passwords & Encryption Keys)
[14:54] <scunizi> gharz: as it shold.
[14:55] <soreau> richthegeek1: Paste. Bin. Not Flood
[14:55] <benjamin__> Please, I bought an Wifi USB Stick but i can't get it to work with my ubuntu. I got an Sweex LW053. Tried much things but nothing works.
[14:55] <richthegeek1> soreau: I'm getting 50% of my lines just about XYZ entered/left the room. This room is flooding faster than the titanic anyway
[14:55] <roracle> could someone please help me?  i posted this in the forum but no one has helped me at all... :(  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1358817
[14:55] <elky> soreau, enough
[14:55] <Myrtti> richthegeek1, soreau: move on
[14:55] <elky> richthegeek1, read the guidelines.
[14:56] <grawity> richthegeek1: Then a) disable join/part messages, b) don't contribute to the flood. /end of discussion
[14:56]  * Dr_Willis sees no part/join messages :)
[14:56] <Myrtti> Moving On
[14:56] <scunizi> richthegeek1: you may be able to type ... /ignore joins parts quits .. or /ignore #ubuntu joins parts quits .. depending on your client
[14:56] <richthegeek1> grawity: how for a)
[14:56] <richthegeek1> ta
[14:56] <elky> scunizi, enough.
[14:56] <soreau> richthegeek1: Anyway, like adamk told you, using xinerama disables composite extension. use twinview instead
[14:56] <scunizi> elky: enough?  of what?
[14:57] <richthegeek1> scuzini: pidgin, doesn't recognise either
[14:57] <crankyadmin>  /ignore joins parts quits
[14:57] <benjamin__> Isn't there anybody who can help me?
[14:57] <Polysics> hello
[14:57] <chilli0>  /ignore joins parts
[14:57] <richthegeek1> chilli0, crankyadmin: "Unknown command."
[14:57]  * LizardK|ng eats cereal that's ~50% sugar
[14:57] <crankyadmin> scunizi: I you taught me something new +1 to you!
[14:57] <Polysics> memtest says RAM is OK, bios does not have ANY setting regardin memory, i still only have 3Gb seen by system
[14:58] <Polysics> any ideas?
[14:58] <crankyadmin> benjamin__: Whats your problem?
[14:58] <burg> hello. how to make my windows partitions automatically mount when i boot on ubuntu (9.10) ?
[14:58] <scunizi> richthegeek1: pidgin isn't a good irc client.. sudo apt-get install xchat for gui or irssi for cli
[14:58] <scunizi> crankyadmin: :)
[14:58] <Huckfh> hi all guys
[14:58] <Polysics> btw, more frivolous question: where can i get a decent theme for gnome, and which type of theme am i looking for?
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> I reccomend WeeChat for CLI :)
[14:58] <Myrtti> richthegeek1: I believe there's a plugin for pidgin to allow you to ignore the joins and parts
[14:58] <richthegeek1> scuzini: "gedit isn't a good text editor use vim" - personal choice
[14:59] <richthegeek1> myrtti: grawity pmed me already, thankyou though
[14:59] <Huckfh> someone can help me with Amule configuration?
[14:59] <jt1234> grawity: done it , it worked, big thanks to you.  :D
[14:59] <benjamin__> Ah finally. Well, i recently bought an Wifi USB Stick. But i can't get it to work with my Ubuntu. I'm an Ubuntu beginner but I tried much things but nothing worked.
[14:59] <Dr_Willis> Polysics:  theres 100's of theme  and theme parts you can play with. Look for gnome-look and gnome-lookng programs they help automate installing new themes
[14:59] <Polysics> vim! pah! i set the bits on my hard disk by hand, with a magnet!
[14:59] <scunizi> richthegeek1: not the same thing.. pigin is a terrific IM client.. not a good IRC client..
[14:59] <crankyadmin> benjamin__: What vendor and model is it?
[15:00] <richthegeek1> scuzini: it outputs text and lets me chat in mulitple clients... I stick to rooms with < 50 people usually so it works fine
[15:00] <benjamin__> I got an Sweex LW053
[15:00]  * crankyadmin will not have a bad thing said against vim!
[15:00] <crankyadmin> benjamin__: 2 secs just going to find out what chipset it is.
[15:00] <richthegeek1> crankyadmin: the mouse is there for a reason ;)
[15:01] <MAEL> hi, for some reason I uninstalled, and reinstalled evolution on my laptop, now on the mail icon on the upper panel, there is only empathy and no evolution, how can I get evolution back inside that mail tab?
[15:01] <Polysics> and about my 3Gb of RAM? i might be out of luck, at least according to a little Googling
[15:01] <grawity> Polysics: C-x M-c M-butterfly.
[15:01] <crankyadmin> richthegeek1: For playing C&C :P
[15:01] <benjamin__> crankyadmin: Thanks for your help. I appreciate it.
[15:01] <Scott__> how come i cant say sh*t but i can say root
[15:01] <Scott__> necer mind
[15:01] <crankyadmin> Scott__: lol!
[15:01] <Scott__> nver
[15:01] <richthegeek1> crankyadmin: for browsing a tree of files, for tabbing between 10 sources, for shooting people in Cod6
[15:01] <Huckfh> someone can help me with Amule ?
[15:02] <wastrel> whats amule
[15:02] <crankyadmin> richthegeek1: :bn does me nicely and nerdtree FTW!
[15:02] <richthegeek1> wastrel: an IM client
[15:02] <cl0ud5_> hi
[15:02] <Huckfh> its an Emule version for Linux
[15:02] <Scott__> im just tired of dudes saying that there is no relevance to my answers and help when i am clearly fixing there issue
[15:02] <crankyadmin> wastrel: someone who smuggles drugs!
[15:02] <Huckfh> p2p program
[15:02] <Polysics> grawity,  another xkcd fan :-)
[15:02] <chilli0> Hi i used a program to backup all of my installed programs but almost all dont work how can i auto remove them all from the main menu ?
[15:02] <richthegeek1> crankyadmin: gedit with the tree plugin works great for me.. then again I'm all about the PHP and occasionally Java/LUA so different needs again
[15:03] <MAEL> hi again
[15:03] <richthegeek1> Polysics: everyone's an xkcd fan
[15:03] <richthegeek1> Polysics: except Randall... he wishes he had a life again
[15:03] <Polysics> anyone else having the same problem? 4gb of RAM, memtest OK, 64bit kernel, still only 3gb seen
[15:03] <Polysics> you know him?
[15:04] <wastrel> i'm not an xkcd fan
[15:04] <richthegeek1> Polysics: are you sure its not a base10/base2 conversion thing going on?
[15:04] <Myrtti> let's keep the offtopic at #ubuntu-offtopic, people ;-)
[15:04] <richthegeek1> Polysics: we used to chat a bit, not anymore :(
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> Polysics:  part of the ram is reserved for system hardware 'space' so you always loose a little bit. but 1gb seems high.
[15:04] <richthegeek1> Myrtti: k
[15:04] <Huckfh> what is it best p2p program for Ubuntu?
[15:04] <Polysics> Dr_Willis and richthegeek1, my point too... not talking about a few Mbs
[15:05] <MAEL> is it difficult to get evolution back in the mail tab in the upper right hand of the panel?
[15:05] <Polysics> a whole gb is missing :-)
[15:05] <richthegeek1> Huckfh: subjective - I use Vuze, I used to use ktorrent
[15:05] <Huckfh> kk ty
[15:05] <chilli0> Hi i used a program to backup all of my installed programs but almost all dont work how can i auto remove them all from the main menu ?
[15:05] <Huckfh> and Amule isnt good?
[15:05] <Myrtti> Polysics: have you run memtest recently?
[15:05] <crankyadmin> benjamin__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=400236&highlight=serialmonkey blamo!
[15:05] <Polysics> Myrtti, a fwew minutes ago
[15:05] <richthegeek1> Polysics: might be your motheboard
[15:05] <sreenath> My wireless interface just disappeared. How do I get it back?
[15:06] <crankyadmin> sreenath: call it!
[15:06] <Myrtti> Polysics: for how long?
[15:06] <chilli0> sreenath,  Restart ?
[15:06] <Polysics> BIOS sees 4Gb
[15:06] <sreenath> tried that
[15:06] <Polysics> Myrtti, took about 40 minutes
[15:06] <richthegeek1> Polysics: can't remember the name of it... "IO apperture" or something.. anyone?
[15:06] <crankyadmin> sreenath: Report it to missing persons then....
[15:06] <Myrtti> Polysics: you're supposed to run it several times over, until it fails or until several hours have past
[15:06] <benjamin__> crankyadmin: I already saw the site but it seems like the package on the site isn't available any more. (Serialmonkey)
[15:07] <chilli0> sreenath,  nm-applet --sm-disable
[15:07] <Polysics> richthegeek1, my bios has no settings regarding RAM, none at all
[15:07] <benjamin__> crankyadmin: Ah wait. I'm going to try something out. Much thank for your help.
[15:07] <Polysics> Myrtti, i'll do it during this night if all else fails
[15:07] <richthegeek1> Polysics: its something you can enable in grub to do it.. IOMMU i think
[15:08] <crankyadmin> benjamin__: no problems
[15:08] <richthegeek1> Polysics: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=971671
[15:08] <richthegeek1> Polysics: really dont know if thats your issue though
[15:08] <richthegeek1> Polysics: but it costs you a fair chunk of RAM if you are affected by it
[15:08] <sreenath> How do you add an interface?
[15:09] <richthegeek1> Polysics: and thats with grub1 so even more unknowns!
[15:09] <MAEL> nobody can help me?
[15:09] <richthegeek1> MAEL: what's yoru issue?
[15:09] <Polysics> from a little googling i might just be out of luck on an acer aspire 5680
[15:09] <Polysics> rats
[15:09] <MAEL> I uninstalled evolution and reinstalled it right
[15:10] <richthegeek1> why?
[15:10] <xtjacob> hello everyone, i'm trying to configure a DNS server on my ubuntu install. Can anyone explain what a DNS server name is? IS it the IP address?
[15:10] <Sacho> I'm trying to install the kdebase-runtime package for a couple of kde programs on ubuntu jaunty, but I'm getting this error: http://pastebin.com/d73d15ce5   Could someone give me a tip or something on how to resolve that issue and install the package?
[15:10] <MAEL> because i did some settings in it that i didn't like, and didn't know how to format it
[15:10] <richthegeek1> xtjacob: yes, the server name is the IP address
[15:10] <xtjacob> ok thanks
[15:11] <epinky> xtjacob: better ask on #ubuntu-server
[15:11] <Polysics> ok, deeper googling confirms i am screwed
[15:11] <richthegeek1> MAEL: right... so whats no longer working?
[15:11] <xtjacob> ok
[15:11] <Polysics> the mobo does NOT see 4gb, period
[15:11] <richthegeek1> Polysics: darn... time to upgrade?
[15:11] <MAEL> so now that i reinstalled it, its not back in the mail icon at the upper right hand panel
[15:11] <Polysics> richthegeek1, i wish i had the money to get a new laptop :-)
[15:11] <MAEL> its working i guess, and i know where to find it
[15:11] <Polysics> i will have to be happy like this
[15:12] <MAEL> i just like where it was b4, and can't get it to go back there
[15:12] <matteo1990> I am having problems connecting to my wireless network under Kubuntu, anyone may hel me? I can see the Network but i get a uellow exclamation dot at the left of his name...
[15:12] <MAEL> any ideas?
[15:12] <richthegeek1> Polysics: I'm sitting next to a machine with 8gb of RAM so I know the pain of only 4...
[15:12] <richthegeek1> MAEL: can't think of anything, I disable it by default
[15:12] <Polysics> stupid Acer
[15:13] <Polysics> the chipset does support 4gb, just the Acer implementation does not :-/
[15:13] <richthegeek1> Polysics: its christmas in 4 days, incase you hadnt noticed
[15:13] <richthegeek1> Polysics: any way to upgrade the BIOS?
[15:13] <Polysics> richthegeek1, i can't ask a relative for a 600€ present :-)
[15:13] <MAEL> richthegeek1: u disabled what?
[15:13] <richthegeek1> Polysics: ask for money, put money towards laptop
[15:13] <Polysics> checking that, but i am VERY wary of BIOS flashing
[15:13] <richthegeek1> MAEL: the mail notifications icon in the top right
[15:14] <Polysics> sort of tingles my "do not do" nerve
[15:14] <Polysics> i'll get a new one next year
[15:14] <richthegeek1> Polysics: yeah, it can go horribly wrong... more dangerous than picking up a lady in Thailand
[15:14] <inkbottle> does anyone see why lsusb does find my mouse but fails finding my keyboard? Plus, is there something stronger than lsusb?
[15:14] <richthegeek1> inkbottle: is it picking it up in dmesg?
[15:14] <richthegeek1> inkbottle: dmesg | grep keyboard
[15:14] <Polysics> richthegeek1, the best thing that can happen is that you get herpes, while flashing BIOS? :-)
[15:15] <MAEL> richthegeek1: u the only one answering hah tonight?
[15:15] <MAEL> interesting
[15:15] <inkbottle> richthegeek1, ok i do that
[15:15] <Polysics> i'll pass on BIOS upgrade, laptop that only sees 3Gb > costly doorstop
[15:15] <victor__> hello, where are the icons of nautilus located in ubuntu 9.10?
[15:15] <richthegeek1> MAEL: apparently so.. they hate me when I flood but refuse to talk to the plebs
[15:15] <bzSmari> nobody? I'd love to get this fixed.
[15:16] <richthegeek1> victor__: ~/.icons, /usr/share/icons
[15:16] <richthegeek1> bzSmari: whats your issue?
[15:16] <Polysics> anyone has a good theme to recommend? something blue and light :-)
[15:16] <richthegeek1> Polysics: icons, go for Meliae
[15:16] <ionut> hi all. can anyone tell me how i install the KDE themes in ubuntu 9.10 ?
[15:16] <MAEL> richthegeek1: what is plebs?
[15:16] <richthegeek1> Polysics: but I use Dust for windows and such so its quite dark
[15:16] <richthegeek1> ionut: you can't
[15:17] <Polysics> i hate Human
[15:17] <richthegeek1> MAEL: the "little" people - ie, not the other developers... the worst thing about open source is the user/dev divide
[15:17] <Polysics> i basically hate gnome's looks, so no solution unless i decide to cross to the other side
[15:17] <richthegeek1> Polysics: try Dust - its dark but nice
[15:17] <Dacvak> What command opens a program i want? I want to make a keyboard shortcut to open system monitor but i dont know the command to open system monitor
[15:17] <Tiders> Does the Kubuntu alternate install CD support hardware RAID just like the Ubuntu one?
[15:17] <trijntje> Polysics, check out emerald and its themes
[15:17] <inkbottle> richthegeek1, it seems it doesn't, I already have a keyboard on ps2, and in dmesg, i'vez got only one one line with 'keyboard'
[15:17] <richthegeek1> Dacvak: try having the system monitor in your top panel?
[15:17] <richthegeek1> inkbottle: try only connecting one keyboard
[15:18] <ionut> richthegeek1: why i can't ?
[15:18] <richthegeek1> ionut: different theme engines for the most part. You will have quite big issues
[15:18] <Dacvak> richthegeek1,  I  need the actual command, cause im running netbookremix
[15:18] <Thomi> Hi, I'm trying to add a partition to a degraded RAID10 array using mdadm. I'm running "mdadm /dev/md0 --add /dev/sdb3" and it gives the error "/dev/sdb3 not large enough to join array" - but it *is* large enough - it's exactly the same partition layout (and disk model) as the other 3 disks in the array. Am I missing something?
[15:19] <pkkm> how to change Sound Preferences layout to one from jaunty (like in windows)
[15:19] <pkkm> ?
[15:19] <richthegeek1> Dacvak: google it?
[15:19] <Dacvak> tried
[15:19] <Polysics> i might just install KDE
[15:19] <Dacvak> couldnt find an7thing
[15:19] <Polysics> not used KDE in a loooooong while
[15:19] <crankyadmin> Polysics: ++
[15:19] <Dacvak> does anyone know the command to open any random program?
[15:19] <richthegeek1> Polysics: nooooo
[15:20] <trijntje> In Karmic my sound gives a loud crack just before it starts playing, how can I fix this?
[15:20] <Xpistos|work> Hi everybody
[15:20] <Polysics> crankyadmin, using KDE too?
[15:20] <MAEL> ok devs
[15:20] <crankyadmin> Polysics: Yeah 4.4 beta 1
[15:20] <MAEL> bye bye
[15:21] <creature> How long should an encrypted swap partition of 1GB take to start during the boot process? (Yes, I know this is a vague question. I'm looking for a ballpark figure.)
[15:21] <Norse_Nemo> not sure if this is the place for this sort of question but has anyone given Songbird a try?
[15:21] <MAEL> richthegeek1: thanks for being helpful, with love maan
[15:21] <richthegeek1> creature: encrypted swap?
[15:21] <richthegeek1> MAEL: np, bye
[15:21] <Polysics> Norse_Nemo, used Songbird for a hwhile, not bad
[15:21] <trijntje> creature, short, I boot in 1 min with encrypted swap
[15:21] <creature> richthegeek1: Yes. I'm not sure what your implicit question is here.
[15:22] <richthegeek1> creature: why encrypt your swap?
[15:22] <bzSmari> richthegeek1, I upgraded to Karmic Koala on my EeePC 1005HA and since then the wireless hasn't worked. I've followed various guides to no avail. Currently the driver is loaded (ath9k, it's an AR9285 device), but the device is "not ready".
[15:22] <richthegeek1> creature: just interested, don't have a clue how long it should take to swapon
[15:22] <inkbottle> richthegeek1, no difference: with the ps2 keyboard unplugged or unplugged, it is both the same output; I'll try that again later, for now I can't :) See you later
[15:22] <Norse_Nemo> Polysics, did you use it with either an Ipod or Zune?
[15:22] <bzSmari> whoops. :P
[15:22] <Polysics> Norse_Nemo, iPod Nano 2nd gen
[15:23] <Polysics> that unfortunately died on me a while ago :-)
[15:23] <creature> richthegeek1: swap's essentially memory, so it gets sensitive details written to it. Passwords, credit card details, open files, that kind of thing.
[15:23] <Polysics> now i have an iPhone but i use iTunes for that
[15:23] <creature> richthegeek1: So the answer to 'why' is somewhere between 'peace of mind' and 'paranoia'.
[15:23] <pkkm> how to change Sound Preferences layout to one from jaunty (like in windows)?
[15:23] <Norse_Nemo> Polysics, :P cool about to give it a tr I am hoping it works with both and with multiple devices
[15:24] <richthegeek1> creature: protected memory spaces means nothing else can read it (technically), and swap gets wiped
[15:24] <salty> bzSmari, take a look at linux4one distro. I think they support that eeepc too
[15:24] <Polysics> i never had more than a single Apple device at a time :-)
[15:24] <richthegeek1> creature: and if you a reasonable amount of RAM swap doesn't even get used
[15:24] <trijntje> Scott__, I'm not sure in fact, I timed it once with encryption, I dont know if it was a lot faster without it
[15:25] <pkkm> How to change Sound Preferences to those from Jaunty (on Karmic)?
[15:25] <Norse_Nemo> i have a 8 Gig IPod for when I work out and go on mission and a 120 gig zune for when I travel. I have yet to find software the will work with both at the same time
[15:25] <richthegeek1> pkkm: System->preferences->sound
[15:25] <creature> richthegeek1: Well, if "they've" got access to a running system you're probably out of luck anyway. If the power gets yanked, though, you can read data out of a swap partition fairly easily.
[15:25] <burg> hello. how can i make my windows partitions automatically mount when i boot on ubuntu (9.10) ?
[15:25] <airtonix> Norse_Nemo, which ones have you tried ?
[15:26] <r00t_> creature: how doi view data froma swap partition?
[15:26] <richthegeek1> creature: I suppose... seems quite an odd level of paranoia
[15:26] <trijntje> !fstab | burg
[15:26] <matteo1990> iwconfig wlan0 ap (address) seems not to change my wireless access point settings, and it still is "not associated".. any tips?
[15:26] <richthegeek1> creature: if they are in a position to yank your power they'll just twat you with a wrench till you *tell* them the passwords
[15:26] <allanas> Aero-clone gtk2 theme, just 400KB to make my desktop aero like;)
[15:26] <r00t_> has anyone had an error with world of padman after  conecting toa server "disconected,impure pk3 files specified."
[15:26] <trijntje> In Karmic my sound gives a loud crack just before it starts playing, how can I fix this?
[15:26] <Norse_Nemo> airtonix: Banshee, Rythmbox and Amerok
[15:26] <Dynetrekk> hi. does anyone know a way to control an ipod on *buntu? I mean, iTunes doesn't exactly come with a linux version
[15:26] <airtonix> Norse_Nemo, any others ?
[15:26] <richthegeek1> Dynetrekk: what model iPoD?
[15:27] <creature> richthegeek1: Ah, that's the joy of it, though! Because you never need to remount swap (it gets cleared on boot) you use /dev/urandom as the key.
[15:27] <Dynetrekk> richthegeek1: ipod nano, the wide one (before the current one I think)
[15:27] <Norse_Nemo> airtonix: I wasnt aware of any others the work with both
[15:27] <Dynetrekk> richthegeek1: does it matter?
[15:27] <richthegeek1> Dynetrekk: rhythmbox can do it
[15:27] <creature> richthegeek1: Same for /tmp. dm-crypt has options for both – tmp just makes a new filesystem on each boot.
[15:27] <Linux-IRC> Is it possible to do "apt-get install <package>" on ubuntu 8.04 ?Has it reached end of life?
[15:27] <richthegeek1> Dynetrekk: Rhythmbox can't do iPod touch or iPhone, it can do all others
[15:27] <Dynetrekk> richthegeek1: ah right. no problem then,
[15:27] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: ^
[15:27] <burg> !partitions
[15:27] <skylar> Hey, I'm used to windows and Uh You had to download codecs in order to watch torrents movies. Do i have to On ubuntu as well ?
[15:27] <airtonix> Norse_Nemo, also : (the underlying problem with those two players (ipod without rockbox) is that they do not expose their music files like a normal external hard drive would.
[15:27] <richthegeek1> creature: what is so important that you have to go to this level of security?
[15:27] <Norse_Nemo> richthegeek1: yes but only one at a time once you sync one device that is the only device you can sync
[15:28] <richthegeek1> creature: simply by not using Windows you're ahead of 99% of all users
[15:28] <airtonix> Norse_Nemo, has your ipod touchjed itunes 9 yet ?
[15:28] <matteo1990> iwconfig wlan0 ap (address) seems not to change my wireless access point settings, and it still is "not associated".. any tips?
[15:28] <Norse_Nemo> airtonix: never
[15:28] <Dr_Willis> Linux-IRC:  ones past EOL are moved to some other servers you may need to change your sources.list file I belive
[15:28] <richthegeek1> Norse_Nemo: are you sure? I'm sure I've used my shuffle and classic on the same machine
[15:28] <Norse_Nemo> airtonix: never touched any Itunes
[15:28] <yancho> hi. i am trying to mount a windows share and i am getting: unable to mount read - write .. any ideas how to mount it please?
[15:28] <airtonix> Norse_Nemo, (make sure it doesn't) with that out the way : try out floola
[15:29] <creature> richthegeek1: I appreciate the knowledge that if my computer gets swiped it's solely a material loss, and I don't have to worry about losing sensitive data.
[15:29] <skylar> Hey, I'm used to windows and Uh You had to download codecs in order to watch torrents movies. Do i have to On ubuntu as well ?
[15:29] <Norse_Nemo> airtonix: certainly will, thank you
[15:29] <Daughain> yancho: Are you sure your firewall is set up to allow remote access/
[15:29] <airtonix> Norse_Nemo, thats one suggestion (im not sure if it works with the zune), there are others that might do both
[15:29] <richthegeek1> creature: criminals can linux?
[15:29] <Linux-IRC> Dr_Willis: Will it work on ubuntu 8.04 , "apt-get install <package>"
[15:29] <Linux-IRC> ?
[15:29] <chilli0> Hi is there any easy way to make ubuntu load faster ?
[15:29] <trijntje> skylar, probably
[15:29] <Norse_Nemo> richthegeek1: mabey multi Ipods work but not Ipods and MTP devices together
[15:29] <trijntje> chilli0, ext4
[15:29] <trijntje> In Karmic my sound gives a loud crack just before it starts playing, how can I fix this?
[15:30] <Myrtti> richthegeek1, creature: some companies have a policy the computer harddrives have to be encrypted, no matter what OS is used.
[15:30] <creature> Anyway, my core question is as follows: my Ubuntu 9.10 system seems to 'stall' on boot due to something with my crypto disks (I have swap and /tmp encrypted using dmcrypt). I get "Starting init crypto disks..." then "cswap (starting)". Things seem to stall at this point.
[15:30] <richthegeek1> Norse_Nemo: seriously, Rhythmbox only copies files over, doesn't do syncing... do you mean at the same time (both connected at same time) or simply on the same machine at different times?
[15:30] <creature> If I tap Ctrl+C, and escape, and enter a few times then it seems to 'unstall', and the system will start properly, complete with swap. But if I just leave it, it never starts.
[15:30] <chilli0> trijntje,  Done . Its 1min boot time thats sloww
[15:30] <creature> When I do manage to break out my crypto disks from this problem, I get "ginit: upstart-udev-bridge main process (481) terminated with status 1."
[15:30] <Myrtti> creature: did you upgrade from Jaunty to Karmic?
[15:30] <Buzzzz> do i have to install paudev to get karmic to output sound to 2 soundcards?
[15:30] <creature> No, this is a fresh install.
[15:31] <Machtin> with which tool can i edit pdf files?
[15:31] <r00t_> each time i hit cntrl alt backspace my copmuter does something funny,whats up with that?
[15:31] <airtonix> Norse_Nemo, I know that songbird has ipod management plugin, and it seems that : http://getsatisfaction.com/songbird/topics/zune_support_with_songbird
[15:31] <Norse_Nemo> richthegeek1: same machine different times, for now I have aother user account for my Zune but I would like to do both on the same user account
[15:31] <richthegeek1> r00t_: thats a global command for rebooting the X-server
[15:31] <Myrtti> creature: oh ok. I know there's a discrepancy on how the encryption issues are handled with upgraded systems
[15:31] <richthegeek1> r00t_: useful for various reasons but probably something you dont want to do. You can disable it if you want to know how?
[15:31] <yancho> Daughain: i am managing to connect to it from the GUI
[15:32] <NoiseEee> how could i shut down apache on a particular day/time?  i'm thinking a cron, but does the cron itself have "/usr/bin/service apache2 stop" or does the cron point to a bash file that has that command?
[15:32] <llutz> NoiseEee: use "at"
[15:32] <ionut> i am having some problems with amarok.it gives me this error:  Phonon: KDE's Multimedia Library - The audio playback device VIA 8236 with ALC655 (VIA 8237) does not work.Falling back to default.what is the problem ?
[15:32] <richthegeek1> NoiseEee: point cron at a .sh file, or just call /etc/init.d/apache2 stop
[15:32] <Daughain> yancho; On the windows box, is the firewall set for remote access?? I;ve had to go and manually set my windows box firewall to allow emote access on the local LAN.
[15:33] <grawity> NoiseEee: cron does not have any commands of its own, it just reads every line in your crontab and executes it as if you typed it.
[15:33] <richthegeek1> llutz: at?
[15:33] <trijntje> chilli0, In that case I dont know, i'm not much of a tweaker
[15:33] <llutz> richthegeek1: at
[15:33] <matteo1990> iwconfig wlan0 ap (address) seems not to change my wireless access point settings, and it still is "not associated".. any tips?
[15:33] <yancho> Daughain: but since im connecting to it via the gui it should be fine now? btw no windows firewall present
[15:33] <richthegeek1> llutz: at?
[15:33] <Norse_Nemo> airtronix: yeah I am downloading it at the moment, gonna be a min though. Im in afghanistan and the connection here is slow
[15:33] <airtonix> Norse_Nemo, out of interest, which medai software on linux do you use that works with the zune  ?
[15:33] <chilli0> trijntje,  k lol
[15:33] <NoiseEee> thanks im going to man at, and check out the cron as well
[15:33] <richthegeek1> llutz: just kidding, man page is helpful for once
[15:33] <Norse_Nemo> airtronix: banshee
[15:33] <llutz> richthegeek1:
[15:34] <llutz> whatis at
[15:34] <llutz> at (1)               - queue, examine or delete jobs for later execution
[15:34] <pkkm> richthegeek1, yes, i know, but the matter is I don't like this new interface and want to return to the old, mixer-like one.
[15:34] <richthegeek1> pkkm: not sure, might have been removed/replaced by this one
[15:34] <airtonix> Norse_Nemo, from memory i recall that banshee worked with my ipod (while it was still alive )
[15:34] <Daughain> yancho: Do you have *any* firewall on the windows box?? And, if you are connected, then, whats the question...??
[15:35] <trijntje> Hi all, since Karmic my sound gives a loud Crack just before it starts playing a song or sound, I didnt have that issue in Jaunty. What could cause this?
[15:35] <Norse_Nemo> airtronix: it does work with mine also, but it can only manage one device
[15:35] <richthegeek1> god radiohead is depressing....
[15:35] <Norse_Nemo> airtronix: you either get ipod or MTP cant have both on the same install
[15:36] <creature> I've justed booted with 'quiet splash' removed and 'verbose' instead. I don't think this gives me any useful info: I have an fsck telling me that / is clean, and ACPI message about I/O resource nForce2_smbus conflicts with ACPI region SM00, and error from nForce2_smbus: Error probing SMB2, and then acer-wmi: No or unsupported WMI interface, unable to load.
[15:36] <creature> Then "One or more of the mounts listed in /etc/fstab cannot yet be mounted: (Esc for recovery shell) /tmp: waiting for /dev/mapper/ctmp, swap: waiting for /dev/mapper/cswap." And that's where the system is sitting.
[15:36] <Lungan> I have an audiobook on many diffrent .mp3 files, how do I put them together to one big mp3file?
[15:36] <yancho> Daughain: i want to connect via the command line to add it to /mount
[15:36] <creature> Lungan: It's a bit ghetto, but you can just concatenate them together.
[15:37] <richthegeek1> creature : cat audiobook/* > audiobook.mp3 ?
[15:37] <Lungan> creature, How? I want them together so I just have one .mp3 file to transfer to my mp3player
[15:37] <noob_> why file moving, copying, extracting,deleting files from trash took more time than windows in ubuntu ??
[15:37] <creature> richthegeek1: Indeed. Lungan: As richthegeek says.
[15:37] <richthegeek1> creature: wooo I rock
[15:37] <Daughain> yancho: OK, dunno anything about that. Once I got the firewall settings fixed, I haven't gotten the 'unable to mount' error again. Though, sometimes I need to restart samba.
[15:38] <richthegeek1> Lungan: previous message: "Woo i rock" wont execute
[15:38] <crankyadmin> dosen't mp3 have a index that gets trashed by cat?
[15:38] <grawity> It does.
[15:39] <grawity> Well, ID3 tags at least.
[15:39] <Linux-IRC> grawity: gravity ,what are you doing ?
[15:39] <llutz> crankyadmin: it has, also the id-tags. cat will result in broken mp3, but they might be played by most players
[15:39] <creature> Most players are smart enough to play through until they hit EOF, even if the metadata's length disagrees.
[15:39] <creature> As I say, it's a bit of a ghetto solution. But it'll work.
[15:39] <Norse_Nemo> airtonix: just fond out im in luck songbird can handle both, but it only works with older zunes that use MTP and not the new MTPZ (mine is old :D)
[15:39] <richthegeek1> creature: just tried with two songs and the length in totem is wrong.. seems to play fine though
[15:39] <richthegeek1> creature: is there a way to edit ID3 tags?
[15:40] <nastas> hi all
[15:40] <LGN> yo
[15:40] <airtonix> Norse_Nemo, small victories
[15:40] <crankyadmin> ID3 is in the last 128bytes of the file....
[15:40] <LGN> anyone need help?
[15:40] <llutz> Lungan:  mp3wrap - Utility for MP3 wrapping (rolling multiple MP3s into one)
[15:40] <crankyadmin> take if zero it and recreate.
[15:40] <Lungan> richthegeek1, as you say, the file gets 60mb large but the length of the mp3 is only 3 minutes long?
[15:40] <nastas> LGN: are you sure that you can help?
[15:40] <Lungan> llutz, read above, same problem with mp3wrap
[15:40] <Daughain> LGN; Once I reinstall I prolly wil. =)
[15:40] <richthegeek1> Lungan: it should play for more than 3 minutes, apparently
[15:41] <grawity> crankyadmin: ID3v1 was. But no sane person still uses it now.
[15:41] <Norse_Nemo> airtonix: I take them when I can get them
[15:41] <grawity> crankyadmin: ID3v2 was created in 1998, with an entirely different structure.
[15:41] <LGN> i can help if i hear the whole story
[15:41] <nastas> LGN: a have problem with my card reader in a laptop
[15:41] <LGN> ok
[15:41] <crankyadmin> fair do's!
[15:41] <LGN> what memery cards do it read?
[15:41]  * grawity sees that mpg123 _can_ correctly play a .mp3 file with two songs catted together.
[15:42] <richthegeek1> grawity: as can rhythmbox and totem
[15:42]  * LGN waits for response
[15:42] <nastas> LGN: it's supposed to read SD-MS/PRO-MMC-SM-XD
[15:43] <richthegeek1> nastas: and what does it instead?
[15:43] <LGN> and whats wrong with it and ubuntu
[15:43] <richthegeek1> nastas: my money is on "read from the bible"
[15:43] <nastas> LGN:nothing at all
[15:43] <LGN> so...
[15:44] <Tiders-> OKay so I just installed Kubuntu with the alternate install CD but when it got to loading GRUB onto the hard drive it failed over and over so eventually I just hit continue without Boot loader... What should I do now
[15:44] <ikonia> Tiders-: install the boot loader from a livecd
[15:44] <LGN> you could manually install GRUB
[15:44] <LGN> i think
[15:44] <Tiders-> ikonia, How do I do that?
[15:45] <Tiders-> ikonia, Ive never had to
[15:45] <ikonia> !grub > Tiders-
[15:45] <nastas> LGN: richthegeek1 just to save some time, it detects the card only in dmesg
[15:45] <yancho> hi. i am trying to mount a windows share and i am getting: unable to mount read - write .. any ideas how to mount it please? i am managing to connect to it from the ubuntu live cd gnome / nautilus
[15:45] <LGN> hmm
[15:45] <richthegeek1> Tiders: burn a live CD, once its loaded open a terminal, type grub, define the root, install
[15:45] <matteo1990> iwconfig wlan0 ap (address) seems not to change my wireless access point settings, and it still is "not associated".. any tips?
[15:46] <ikonia> yancho: you need to install the ntfs3g packages to make ntfs read-write
[15:46] <Tiders-> ikonia, Do I just use a normal 9.04 Live CD or do I need 9.10
[15:46] <Tiders-> ikonia, Because my version of Kubuntu is 9.10
[15:46] <yancho> ikonia: will i be able to do that in a live cd environment ?
[15:46] <richthegeek1> Tiders: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[15:46] <richthegeek1> yancho: yes
[15:46] <nastas> matteo1990: are you sure that your wifi card is wlan0?
[15:46] <ikonia> Tiders-: if you want to use grub2 you'll have to use a 9.10 cd
[15:47] <creature> A summary of my dm-crypt problem:  http://pastebin.com/m1c51bf9c . I'd welcome any suggestions of further debugging steps or possible causes.
[15:47] <ikonia> Tiders-: grub 1 should be fine though also
[15:47] <LGN> grub2 is wayyyyyyy better than grub 1
[15:47] <Tiders-> ikonia, Well what I meant by my question is that will GRUB 1 still boot a 9.10 install?
[15:47] <LGN> yes
[15:47] <ikonia> Tiders-: should do fine, as long as it's from a 9.04cd -or your boot partition is not ext4
[15:47] <LGN> grub1 will boot 9.10, because those who upgraded from 9.04 still have grub1
[15:48] <Tiders-> ikonia, It is ext4
[15:48] <ikonia> Tiders-: then you have to use 9.04 or 9.10 cd
[15:48] <Tiders-> ikonia, SO I need GRUB2?
[15:48] <ikonia> LGN: that's not true, only grub from 9.04 will boot an ext4 partition
[15:48] <yancho> ikonia: couldnt find package .. i did sudo apt-get install ntfs3g
[15:48] <ikonia> Tiders-: no - you need to use either grub1 from 9.04 or grub1 or 2 from 9.10
[15:48] <ray__> 有人在不？
[15:48] <ikonia> !info ntfs-3g
[15:48] <richthegeek1> yancho: did you update the lsit first?
[15:48] <ray__> 冒个泡
[15:48] <ikonia> yancho: try searching for the package name
[15:48] <Myrtti> !jp | ray__
[15:49] <Tiders-> ikonia, Well this guide you gave me is only for GRUB 1.... That will work for Ext4 then? Im confused
[15:49] <ikonia> Tiders-: yes
[15:49] <yancho> no richthegeek1 .. sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ntfs3g right?
[15:49] <ikonia> yancho: use synaptic, the gui is quite easy
[15:49] <ikonia> yancho: you can use the search function to search for ntfs
[15:49] <LGN> Grub1 (Grub legacy) will work if installed from a 9.04 or 9.10 cd
[15:49] <richthegeek1> yancho: not quite
[15:50] <richthegeek1> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g
[15:50] <ikonia> LGN: I've already said that
[15:50] <LGN> i was recapping
[15:50] <fanti> hello! how can  i see what exact version of ubuntu is installed?
[15:50] <_UsUrPeR_> hey all. I have a simple question about scp: if I am ssh'd into an external server, is it possible to scp something back to be ssh'ing computer (I.E. my computer) without referring to my external IP address? Something like scp * localhost:/home/<myhomedir> (this will not work, I am aware, but I am just giving this an example)
[15:50] <bastidrazor> fanti: lsb_release -a
[15:50] <VCoolio> fanti: lsb_release -a
[15:50] <LGN> system monitor
[15:51] <particularul> hi. Any idea why I can't find this app in android market? http://www.androlib.com/android.application.org-doublemill-client-qxnA.aspx
[15:51] <fanti> thanks
[15:51] <yancho> ikonia: already the newest version
[15:51] <Tiders-> ikonia, SO I hit try ubuntu to get to a terminal right?
[15:51] <nastas> matteo1990: are you still out there?
[15:51] <richthegeek1> _UsUrPeR: use sftp?
[15:51] <ikonia> Tiders-: that will give you a desktop environment
[15:51] <Tiders-> ikonia, Well its saying I need a root terminal but Im not sue how else to get to one
[15:51] <matteo1990> nastas yes
[15:51] <_UsUrPeR_> richthegeek1: mind giving me an example of the command nomenclature for that process?
[15:51] <particularul> sorry, wrong channel
[15:52] <ikonia> Tiders-: you open a terminal from the desktop environment
[15:52]  * _UsUrPeR_ is not familiar with sftp
[15:52] <Tiders-> ikonia, Thats what I thought
[15:52] <richthegeek1> _UsUrPeR_: exactly the same as ssh but with sftp instead
[15:52] <richthegeek1> _UsUrPeR_: to connect at least
[15:52] <Kottizen> Tiders-: su
[15:52] <richthegeek1> _UsUrPeR_: to get the actual file, type get [filename]
[15:52] <LGN> yeah, in Apps>Accessories>terminal
[15:52] <Kottizen> !su | Tiders-
[15:52] <Tiders-> ikonia, Well this be harder if Im using hardware raid?
[15:52] <_UsUrPeR_> hmm
[15:52] <ikonia> Tiders-: is it hardware or software or fake raid ?
[15:52]  * _UsUrPeR_ will try that
[15:52] <Tiders-> ikonia, Hardware
[15:52] <Tiders-> ikonia, RAID0 (striping)
[15:53]  * LGN has to leave, so bye bye
[15:53] <ikonia> Tiders-: as in hardare on a home motherboard or hardware a true hardware controller
[15:53] <Kottizen> !bye LGN
[15:53] <ikonia> Tiders-: /boot can't be on a raid0 partition
[15:53] <Tiders-> ikonia, Its part of my motherboard that has on onboard RAID controller
[15:53] <fanti> hm and how can i see whether the system uses the 32bit or 64bit mode?
[15:53] <ikonia> Tiders-: then it's fakeraid
[15:53] <ikonia> Tiders-: not hardware raid
[15:53] <Tiders-> ikonia, SO will it work?
[15:54] <ikonia> Tiders-: I strongly advice you not to use that, a.) raid 0 striping is a bad idea anyway for a root file system b.) fake raid is terrible support under linux as its a windows based technology c.) /boot can't be on raid0 partition - that's why the auto grub install failed
[15:55] <Tiders-> ikonia, Ive installed Ubuntu tons of times... It recognises the RAID volume and I partition it as one drive... Its only the Kubuntu alternate install disk thats having a problem
[15:55] <santisnight> hello?
[15:55] <ikonia> Tiders-: I strongly advise you not to do this
[15:55] <zhane> how do I make my ubuntu guest OS do network bridge on my windows OS?
[15:55] <Tiders-> ikonia, But I get 10x more speed and this is a gaming box... No data needs to be saved
[15:55] <Tiders-> ikonia, All my data is on my server
[15:56] <ejat> anyone here know how to delete/remove previous conversation in empathy ?
[15:56] <ikonia> Tiders-: it's your call, but you can't put /boot on a raid0 partition and the support/stability for it is terrible, this is why grub failed
[15:57] <manish> hello, i installed xubuntu on my friend's pc today, it ran fine the first time, but after using xp,when we tried to use it again, the screen fades after it prompts for the password
[15:57] <rd1381> is there anyway i have a sudo accoutn for installation and a normal acciunt that is not able to install apps?( like opensuse but without root )
[15:57] <grawity> rd1381: of course.
[15:57] <Tiders-> ikonia, Then why has it worked the past 10 times Ive done it?
[15:57] <santisnight> I'm trying to figure out how to get files off of some .rar (or .zip) files that i had combined with a .jpeg, any suggestions?
[15:57] <ikonia> Tiders-: I don't know what you've done in the past so can't comment
[15:58] <rd1381> grawity:how? i have just one user and i want to have a user for root actions but not root
[15:58] <yancho> ikonia: any other ideas please? i cant get it to mount and i badly need it to backup :(
[15:58] <grawity> santisnight: Does the JPEG come before or after ZIP?
[15:58] <ikonia> yancho: if you open a terminal and paste the output of "mount" so we can see what options it's currently mounted with
[15:58] <manish> hello, i installed xubuntu on my friend's pc today, it ran fine the first time, but after using xp,when we tried to use it again, the screen fades after it prompts for the password....can someone help?
[15:59] <santisnight> in it's filetype / name? it doesn't have .zip at all, i made it back on XP before switching to ubuntu 9.10
[15:59] <Dynetrekk> I want to run the following bash command at startup: sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start   now, where do I put it=
[15:59] <grawity> santisnight: The command-line tools 'unrar' and 'unzip' almost always correctly detect the start of the archive... for the graphical tool, you can try running "file-roller" manually.
[15:59] <grawity> santisnight: I meant in the contents. The name does not matter.
[15:59] <hamachi> I just installed ubuntu 8.04 and I cant control my volume settings in X
[15:59] <grawity> Dynetrekk: You don't
[15:59] <hamachi> anyone know how to fix?
[15:59] <yancho> ikonia: it does not list in the mount
[16:00] <Dynetrekk> grawity: okay, so what do I do?
[16:00] <grawity> Dynetrekk: Better try 'sudo update-rc.d ssh defaults' instead.
[16:00] <Dynetrekk> grawity: what does that do?
[16:00] <rd1381> grawity: how?
[16:00] <ikonia> yancho: then it's not mounted
[16:00] <trijntje> Hi all, since Karmic my sound gives a loud Crack just before it starts playing a song or sound, I didnt have that issue in Jaunty. What could cause this?
[16:00] <grawity> Dynetrekk: Tells Ubuntu to auto-start ssh on boot.
[16:00] <Ryguy__> I have three HDDs installed on my computer and on Windows 7 (Which I'm currently on) I can see all three.. Two are partitioned and one has no partitions on it at all. Now in the Ubuntu 9.10 installation, it can only see two HDDs. What's going on? Even when I partition the empty drive to NTFS in Windows, the Ubuntu installation cannot find the drive.
[16:00] <SmokeyD2> hey everyone. I have a file which was encrypted (an rcf file). I have the password needed to decrypt the file, but I don't know which encryption mechanism was used. Is there a way to check this?
[16:00] <Dynetrekk> grawity:  sounds good
[16:00] <Ryguy__> I just ran some tests with the Seagate HDD tester and all HDDs passed fine.
[16:00] <yancho> ikonia: but i can browse through the folders from gnome!
[16:01] <grawity> rd1381: Create a second user account, and don't add it to 'admin' group.
[16:01] <ikonia> yancho: then it must be mounted in userspace, use the mouont command to mount it on the system
[16:01] <santisnight> I've allready tried a uncompressing it just by opening the files with the archive manager, but like i said im relatively new to the linux world...
[16:01] <grawity> ikonia: I thought ntfs-3g is always mounted the same way.
[16:01] <rd1381> grawity:can i make my first account the normal accoutn and the new one the installer account?
[16:02] <thiebaude> !user
[16:02] <ikonia> grawity: I thought it you used fuse it was userspace, if you used the module it was not, not %100
[16:02] <manish> can anyone tell me why the xubuntu screen comes back to the login screen even after i've typed in the password....keeps happening again and again
[16:02] <rd1381> grawity:i mean is tehre anythng special about my first account?
[16:02] <grawity> ikonia: ntfs-3g always uses FUSE, no matter how you call it.
[16:02] <llutz> rd1381: remove 1st account from group "admin"
[16:02] <yancho> ikonia: i am trying this command: sudo mount -t cifs //192.168.100.203/backup_old /media/fileserver -o username=domain/username,password=pass
[16:03] <ikonia> grawity: ahh, thank you
[16:03] <llutz> rd1381: but make sure, 2nd account added to admin works with sudo ...
[16:03] <grawity> ikonia: At least that's what I thought.
[16:03] <om26er> i made a custom /home and now i want to format /home and make /home in /root what to do?
[16:03] <ikonia> yancho: that's a samba share
[16:03] <ikonia> grawity: you're probably right
[16:03] <rd1381> llutz: does that remoes it from sudo config file ass well?
[16:03] <rd1381> ilutz: how
[16:03] <om26er> !test
[16:03] <grawity> rd1381: No, it never was in the sudo config file.
[16:03] <yancho> ikonia: yes.. a windows one
[16:03] <grawity> rd1381: Only the 'admin' group is in sudoers.
[16:03] <llutz> rd1381: create 2nd user, "sudo adduser yournewuser admin"
[16:04] <ikonia> yancho: so that's  not your ntfs partition, that's a remote windows share
[16:04] <ejat> anyone here know how to delete/remove previous conversation in empathy ?
[16:04] <rd1381> thanks
[16:04] <creature> What is upstart-udev-bridge? What does it do?
[16:04] <manish> can anyone tell me why xubuntu is coming back to the login screen even after i've typed in the password....keeps happening again and again
[16:04] <llutz> rd1381: if sudo works for yournewuser, "sudo deluser olduser admin"
[16:04] <manish> i can't access the os
[16:04] <thiebaude> !upstart
[16:04] <trijntje> manish, I think the X server crashes, try logging in in text-mode
[16:05] <death86angel> hihi
[16:05] <death86angel> anyone there ?
[16:05] <ikonia> manish: common cause is your home directory is full
[16:05] <santisnight> I've allready tried a uncompressing it just by opening the files with the archive manager
[16:05] <creature> I'm getting the feeling that my problem is some issue with the interaction between cryptsetup, mountall, and upstart-udev-bridge. (http://pastebin.com/m1c51bf9c has more details of my problem).
[16:05] <yancho> yes ur right ikonia ?
[16:05] <om26er> if i was not clear. i made a separate /home and now i want to use the space of /root as home and format the other partition
[16:05] <rd1381> llutz: after that is i am in my non-sudo account and i type for example:'sudo synaptic' it ask for that sudo usewr or my nonsudo user account?
[16:05] <genii> manish: The most common cause for that is that permissions in your home directory got screwed up from default user to root (usually by running a graphical app with "sudo" instead of "gksudo" )
[16:05] <ikonia> yancho: a samba share is very different to a local NTFS disk,
[16:06] <Tiders-> What type of filesystem does /boot need and how big
[16:06] <pkkm> how to connect output of one program to input of another?
[16:06] <llutz> rd1381: you cannot use sudo with your nonsudoaccount then anymore, will end in error
[16:06] <ikonia> Tiders-: any file system you want, it can be as small as 50 meg, I use 200 to give room
[16:06] <grawity> pkkm: firstcommand | secondcommand
[16:06] <Tesssa> manishy i had that problem after i had downloaded and insstalled xubuntu 9.10 i cured ut by upgrading 9.04 instead of a install
[16:06] <grawity> pkkm: for more information, read about "Pipelines" in 'man bash'
[16:06] <Tiders-> ikonia, Bootable flag?
[16:06] <manish> genii : i didn't use any app. only installed it and restarted...and then the problem started
[16:06] <rd1381> <llutz:so how do i do admin stuf in my old account?
[16:06] <ColMustard> hello
[16:07] <ikonia> Tiders-: that's not a file system option
[16:07] <llutz> rd1381: you cannot
[16:07] <rd1381> :(
[16:07] <Tiders-> ikonia, Yes it is...
[16:07] <manish> how can i fix it....m a newb, so...
[16:07] <ikonia> Tiders-: no its not, it's a partition flag
[16:07] <Tiders-> ikonia, Mount point mount opions label reserved blocks typical usage and bootable flag
[16:07] <Tiders-> Those are the options
[16:07] <llutz> rd1381: only members of group "admin" can
[16:07] <ikonia> Tiders-: what tool are you using ?
[16:07] <Tiders-> ikonia, Kubuntu alternate install CD
[16:07] <pkkm> how to connect audio output of one program to audio input of another?
[16:07] <shoonya> which package provides apt-add-ppa tool ?
[16:08] <Tiders-> ikonia, Since it supports RAID
[16:08] <ikonia> Tiders-: ok, so that's a disk manager - not a file system
[16:08] <santisnight> I need help with a .zip file INSIDE a .jpg file. i cannot access the .zip file through the archive manager.
[16:08] <rd1381> llutz: i want a way to use my old account but forubuntu admin stuf  ask for the admin account
[16:08] <rd1381> llutz: you know like vista
[16:08] <grawity> santisnight: How did you put the .zip inside? Using what program?
[16:08] <Tiders-> ikonia, Im saying if Im creating a /boot partition how big and what type of FS and does it need bootable flag
[16:08] <ikonia> santisnight: why is a zip file inside a jpeg ?
[16:08] <llutz> rd1381: i don't know vista
[16:08] <matteo1990> iwconfig wlan0 ap (address) seems not to change my wireless access point settings, and it still is "not associated".. any tips?
[16:08] <santisnight> i did it on XP before coming over to ubuntu
[16:08] <rd1381> llutz: but you understand what i mean?
[16:08] <grawity> rd1381: In other words, enable the root account, right?
[16:08] <ikonia> Tiders-: as big as you want, any file system you want and a bootable flag will help
[16:08] <hetOrakel> how can i set audible warnings for my laptop low battery warning?
[16:09] <santisnight> it was a command thing
[16:09] <llutz> rd1381: not really, no
[16:09] <Tiders-> ikonia, Do I give root a bootable flag as well
[16:09] <ikonia> santisnight: what was ?
[16:09] <ikonia> Tiders-: no
[16:09] <rd1381> grawity: somehow yes but not a root account , an account that has admin access but not root
[16:09] <srnth> My wireless driver stopped working yesterday. I had been using the broadcom STA driver. How do I fix it?
[16:09] <santisnight> pitting a zip file inside of a .jpeg file
[16:09] <pkkm> rd1381: mayge sudo or gksu
[16:09] <pkkm> maybe*
[16:09] <ikonia> santisnight: what command did you use ?
[16:09] <grawity> rd1381: I don't know if that is possible in Unix.
[16:09] <santisnight> putting*
[16:09] <VCoolio> shoonya: assuming you mean 'add-apt-repository' enter that in terminal; if it's not installed it will point you to the package
[16:10] <ColMustard> I'm trying to set up apache2 vhosts so that if you connect by going directly to the ip address, you get one thing but if you connect using a certain hostname, you get a different page. I can't seem to get that working. I have tried adding a *:80 virtual host that points to /dev/null and a correcthostname.com:80 virtual host that points at the right directory but then neither one gets you anything when you try to connect. I've tried not having a *:80 a
[16:10] <ColMustard> t all and then you get nothing when you connect either. If I point the *:80 virtual host at the correct directory, it works but the hostname you used to get there doesn't matter. Anyone know how to do that?
[16:10] <santisnight> i have no clue i did it forever ago... i can probably look it up though, hold on.
[16:10] <ikonia> ColMustard: you don't point apache to /dev/null
[16:10] <llutz> rd1381: you can give partial root-access to users via sudo, i.e. access to only some specific commands. don't know if that helps
[16:10] <rd1381> grawity: imean i want a normal account and an admin account and the ability to install app in normal account after asking for admin account passs
[16:10] <grawity> rd1381: Ubuntu's (and Linux in general) "admin" accounts don't have any privileges. They just can use 'sudo' to temporarily switch to the root account.
[16:10] <ikonia> ColMustard: you need two virtual hosts, one for the ip (default) one for the servername URL, point them at different document roots
[16:11] <grawity> rd1381: Only 'root' is an equivalent of Windows "administrator".
[16:11] <shoonya> ok
[16:11] <rd1381> grawity: iknowe
[16:11] <Exile> hey guys, I've just reinstalled windows and need to know what the best way to restore grub?
[16:11] <ColMustard> ikonia, would * not take care of the former?
[16:11] <ikonia> ColMustard: that just makes it the default site
[16:12] <rd1381> grawity: but i want to whan asked for password for installing apps for it to ask another account pass not my normal account
[16:12] <ColMustard> ikonia, ok. so, is that the internal ip or the external ip?
[16:12] <ikonia> ColMustard: depends where you want it to be accessed from
[16:12] <llutz> rd1381: why? that makes no sense to me
[16:12] <grawity> rd1381: You can go into gconf-editor, and disable /apps/gksu/sudo-mode. BUT it will be useless without a root account, because other accounts do not have any privileges at all.
[16:13] <rd1381> llutz: say i wanna have a guest account to use but when i want i want to be able to install apps in that account by using another account (like windows run as admin)_
[16:14] <BrixSat> hello
[16:14] <santisnight> while im looking for that command, can someone tell me why my internet is moing at a snails pace compared to when i had XP?
[16:14] <manish> so how do i fix this login problem?
[16:14] <santisnight> Im using ubuntu 9.10
[16:15] <ColMustard> ikonia, doing that gives me the following warning: VirtualHost x overlaps with VirtualHost y, the first has presedence,  perhaps you need a NameVirtualHost directive
[16:15] <llutz> rd1381: use "su youradminaccount" from guestaccount and then "sudo apt-get...."   not very handy
[16:15] <simplexio> santisnight: more information about connection could help
[16:15] <imran> #drupal
[16:15] <rd1381> llutz:oh so there is no way to make sudo ask for my other account? :(|
[16:15] <soopos> What are the correct xmodmap keys for the pseudo-code at http://paste.pocoo.org/show/158569/  ?
[16:16] <DrJykellMrHyde> hello all
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> su takes options...
[16:16] <llutz> rd1381: afaik no
[16:16] <rd1381> llutz:thanks
[16:16] <grawity> rd1381: Seriously, what's wrong with enabling root?
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> sudo is for the current user
[16:16] <santisnight> simplexio,  what do you want to know? its from Comcat (its all the area ha to offer...) and i don't know to much more beyond that.
[16:16] <grawity> rd1381: Then you would have exactly the same behavior as in Windows.
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  it will make your dog get the mange. :)
[16:16] <DrJykellMrHyde> how can i do an update of gtk-gnutella with command line if there is one?
[16:16] <Tesssa> manish do you have 9.4 you can reinstall if you have reinstall 9.4 and then upgrade to 9.10 that is what i did to make it work
[16:16] <grawity> Dr_Willis: I have a cat.
[16:16] <Karger78> Here is my issue.  I have an SD card that's 16 gig, but an image that is only 4 gig.  is there anyway I can mount the 4 gig image to the 16gig SD card?
[16:16] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  cats living with dogs! thats even worse
[16:16] <Johnny_D> can someone help me with an IBM SAS controller with an LTO drive?  (newbie here)
[16:16] <rd1381> grawity: enabling root? no because i want the sudo ability not whole of root
[16:17] <manish> tesssa : i have 9.10
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> Karger78:   try just 'dd'ing the img to the sd card?
[16:17] <soopos> * running the xmodmap code gives me http://paste.pocoo.org/show/158570/
[16:17] <Tesssa> ok
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> Karger78:  or mount the image. then copy the files over
[16:17] <Karger78> yes I tried doing the dd to the card
[16:17] <Karger78> didn't seem to work
[16:17] <manish> tesssa :  and i just installed it...
[16:17] <Dr_Willis> Karger78:  no files? or did it not boot?
[16:18] <Karger78> it said bad image when it tried to boot
[16:18] <pkkm> rd1381, basically, sudo ask for your password if you are in /etc/sudoers file and su asks for admin password
[16:18] <_UsUrPeR_> Karger78: I have had to do this a few times now. post the dd command you used
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> Karger78:  were the file s accessable?
[16:18] <santisnight> ikonia, here's that command line from xp to combine files with .jpg file
[16:18] <Dr_Willis> Karger78:  could just need the bootloader reinstallwed
[16:18] <rd1381> ok
[16:18] <santisnight> ikonia, copy /b DSC06578.JPG + Hidden.rar DSC06578.jpg
[16:18] <rd1381> thanks
[16:18] <Tesssa>  unless someone else here can help you manish
[16:18] <Karger78> Dr Willis, I just used the standard dd command
[16:18] <ikonia> santisnight: that's a windows command
[16:18] <manish> the xfce session is not opening...the screen goes black, and then the login screen comes back
[16:19] <Karger78> just dd if & of
[16:19] <santisnight> ikonia, yeah seeing as the combination was made in windows XP
[16:19] <manish> tesssa : no worries :)
[16:19] <Karger78> no paramaters
[16:19] <grawity> santisnight: So the 'unrar' command should really be able to detect the RAR archive. Try it.
[16:19] <ikonia> santisnight: sort it out on windows - it looks like you're trying to hide wares in a jpeg file
[16:19] <llutz> pkkm: su asks for the password of the user, you want to su to. not only root </nitpick>
[16:19] <Karger78> Dr_willis i just used the standard dd command, no paramatres.  Just the dd if and of
[16:20] <Balsaq> what is the sudo command to change password
[16:20] <_UsUrPeR_> Karger78: typically if I am dd'ing a disk image to a CF card, it will go something like this: dd if=<location of image> of=/dev/sdx (I use the entire drive, which over-writes all partition information, so I don't include numbers after the image location. I.E. /dev/sdx1)
[16:20] <imran> i cant do enything with durupal with my ubuntu ultimate edition 2.4
[16:20] <BrixSat> hello on a ./configure i get this
[16:20] <BrixSat> http://pastebin.com/m365520e5
[16:20] <erUSUL> !ultimate
[16:20] <pkkm> llutz, su executed without parameters afk for root's password
[16:20] <cwillu_at_work> what's the folder in etc that runs things once at boot and then deletes the script?
[16:20] <llutz> pkkm: without user, yes.
[16:21] <Karger78> Usurper, i did that, took about an hour to mount.
[16:21] <Karger78> maybe i will try again
[16:21] <soreau> BrixSat: You would need to install kde lib development headers, probably something like libkde-dev or so
[16:21] <_UsUrPeR_> karger: sounds like something got messed up. when you say "an hour to mount", you mean after you finished the dd process?
[16:21] <_UsUrPeR_> err Karger78: ^^^
[16:21] <santisnight> gravity, by unrar you mean the archive manager? i tried that and it says it doesn't work with .jpeg file. :| however if you meant there's a command line i can put into the terminal, please be specific because i don't know exactly how to figure that one out...
[16:22] <BrixSat> soreau i have those libs
[16:22] <cwillu_at_work> !rar | santisnight
[16:22] <santisnight> ikonia,  >_> no i jut like keeping my stuff safe from my family.
[16:22] <richthegeek1> santisnight: no, the terminal command
[16:22] <grawity> santisnight: No, I meant the 'unrar' command.
[16:22] <ikonia> santisnight: I suggest you sort it out on windows
[16:22] <soreau> BrixSat: Well either you dont have the right package installed or the pkgconfig path is not set correctly
[16:23] <grawity> santisnight: And, IMO, that's really the wrong way of hiding "stuff" from family...
[16:23] <BrixSat> soreau so i can i solve it?
[16:23] <soreau> BrixSat: First, what are you trying to compile and why?
 took about 1 hour to mount a 4 gig image on a 16 gig card
[16:24] <BrixSat> soreau im compiling a program i got cause it has to be machine compiled so it feets every ones needs
[16:24] <Karger78> mind you it's an SD card
[16:24] <santisnight> cwillu_at_work,  just !rar and the file name?
[16:24] <cwillu_at_work> BrixSat, you're not making any sense
[16:24] <_UsUrPeR_> Karger78: Hmm. That seems a little slow, but not THAT far from what is normal.
[16:24] <cwillu_at_work> santisnight, read the message ubottu sent you
[16:24] <santisnight> gravity, probably, but i thought it was still a neat way anyways.
[16:24] <ikonia> santisnight: why ar eyou trying to sort this out on ubuntu - it's a windows command a microsoft platform would be easier to undo
[16:25] <_UsUrPeR_> Karger78: that is dependent on the write speed of the CF card.
[16:25] <soreau> BrixSat: The other issue could be its looking for kde3 libs and you have kde4. May be likely if the program is a bit older or hasnt been developed in awhile
[16:25] <_UsUrPeR_> Karger78: it's possible that writes are just that slow to the client
[16:25] <_UsUrPeR_> Karger78: err CF card
[16:25] <Karger78> it's only a class 6 SD card
[16:25] <cwillu_at_work> Karger78, if the card was previously written to, it can take quite a while to write a whole new image
[16:26] <cwillu_at_work> Karger78, sd erase blocks are very slow
[16:26] <santisnight> ikonia,  well i did just kinda ditch xp:| however if i cant do it my way and sort it out on here then i will.
[16:26] <Karger78> yeah class 6 is only 133mb per sec
[16:26] <Amatiel> hey
[16:26] <_UsUrPeR_> Karger78: in that case, that time frame makes sense
[16:26] <lsdluna> Hi, can someone direct me as to how can I type in Chinese (or atleast install a layout that works)?
[16:26] <cwillu_at_work> Kardos, 133mb/s means it should take about a minute :p
[16:26] <cwillu_at_work> Karger78, rather ^^^
[16:27] <BrixSat> cwillu_at_work i need to compile a module for kaffeine and i only foind it in source
[16:27] <cwillu_at_work> ugh, don't use dd on sd cards
[16:27] <Karger78> by other buddy did it with a class 6 4 gig card and it took about 1 hour
[16:27] <Karger78> what should i use then
[16:27] <Karger78> instead of dd
[16:28] <cwillu_at_work> _UsUrPeR_, Karger78, using dd to put an image onto an sd card is a very good way of ruining the performance of the sd card
[16:28] <cwillu_at_work> because that writes all the empty space in the image as well
[16:28] <flexy> How do I get the copy buffer (created with painting with mouse, ctrl+c) to my bash script?
[16:28] <cwillu_at_work> which then requires any write to the card to read an entire erase block to rewrite the entire erase block to write a single sector
[16:28] <Karger78> ok fair enough, then how do i get the image on the sd card then
[16:28] <llutz> Karger78: "sudo cat /dev/sdX > foo.img" (or vice versa)
[16:28] <grawity> flexy: there are several tools, I use xclip
[16:29] <grawity> flexy: There's xcutsel too, I think.
[16:29] <cwillu_at_work> Karger78, _far_ better to use a tarballed filesystem
[16:29] <Karger78> and that will mount the image to the sd card
[16:29] <_UsUrPeR_> cwillu_at_work: could you qualify that statement? I don't understand how the method of data transfer would affect the transfer rates inherent in the storage media. 6 MByte/s is already pretty slow...
[16:29] <grawity> flexy: Btw, that thing is called 'primary selection'. (Cut buffers are really obsolete.)
[16:29] <flexy> grawity: right.
[16:29] <cwillu_at_work> _UsUrPeR_, consider how flash works
[16:29] <cwillu_at_work> _UsUrPeR_, erase blocks are bigger than the minimum read/write sectors
[16:30] <grawity> flexy: With xclip it would be 'xclip -out -selection primary'
[16:30] <cwillu_at_work> _UsUrPeR_, if you fill a partition via dd, you end up having to erase an entire erase block every time you write to the card
[16:30] <faLUCE> hi. I'm noting that every time I launch a video application (for example: playing a movie) I have a high CPU comsumption (about 50% per application) .  I suspect that this problem has something to do with the hardware acceleration... do you have any suggestion for that?
[16:30] <flexy> grawity: right, I'm testing it now...
[16:31] <cwillu_at_work> _UsUrPeR_, on the other hand, mounting an img via loopback and doing an rsync (or untarring a tarball) will only write to the space that's actually used, leaving the rest of the card untouched
[16:31] <erUSUL> faLUCE: what graphic card do you have ? system specs? what drivers are you using ?
[16:31] <flexy> grawity: exactly what I was searching for, thanks! :)
[16:31] <creature> How can I find out the order in which upstart processes are run? Is there a tool that will draw me a tree or print me a summary?
[16:31] <Karger78> Cwillu how do i mount an img via loopback?
[16:31] <cwillu_at_work> _UsUrPeR_, you can easily drop down to less than 512kb/s throughput depending on the card if you use dd to write full disk images
[16:31] <krishnan> hi iam nt able to watch video in youtube and other similar sites. iam using ubuntu 9.04
[16:32] <erUSUL> !iso | Karger78
[16:32] <cwillu_at_work> Karger78, mount /path/to/image /mount/point -o loop
[16:32] <grawity> !flash | krishnan
[16:32] <thiebaude> krishnan, you have flash installed?
[16:32] <santisnight> ikonia,  you're right,  *takes the data over to a computer that has xp*
[16:32] <santisnight> ikonia, sorry if i sounded irate or anything, just a tad irritating :P
[16:32] <krishnan> thiebaude: i dnt think so and i dnt know how to install it
[16:32] <santisnight> byes!
[16:33] <llutz> Karger78: if you have an image of an device, not a partition, you have to use losetup to setup the offset to mount your image
[16:33] <_UsUrPeR_> cwillu_at_work / Karger78: So to understand this then, if karger were to manually partition the SD, and manually install whatever information he wants on it, the transfer rates would be better because the partition would not be changed?
[16:33] <krishnan> thiebaude: flash is installed
[16:33] <BrixSat> cwillu_at_work got itr?
[16:33] <Spiderman> I've tried searching all over and have yet to figure out how to install my webcam "05e3:0503 Genesys Logic, Inc." in 9.10... any ideas?
[16:33] <VCoolio> creature: I'm not sure if I understand correctly, but check sysv-rc-conf
[16:33] <thiebaude> krishnan, how did you install it?
[16:34] <cwillu_at_work> _UsUrPeR_, the first write is generally okay, it's the subsequent writes (i.e., dd... oops, screwed up, dd again...)
[16:34] <aouta> yo
[16:34] <matteo1990> iwconfig wlan0 ap (address) seems not to change my wireless access point settings, and it still is "not associated".. any tips?  if i try to run Dmesg i get ( wlan0 connected and then  disassociating by local choice (reason=3) Any TIps?
[16:34] <krishnan> thiebaude: while i installed ubuntu 9.04 and during intial browsing i got a message on top of browser
[16:34] <cwillu_at_work> _UsUrPeR_, that said, the actual info in an install is generally far less than the image size, so even there you're gaining significant ground
[16:34] <erUSUL> llutz: Karger78 easier if it is a full disk image is to use losetup to create the block device and then run partx on it (who will discover the partitions within it and create the devices via udev)
[16:35] <_UsUrPeR_> cwillu_at_work / Karger78 , so what do you propose karger does at this point? It appears he's already "oopsed" his sd card once :P
[16:35] <cwillu_at_work> _UsUrPeR_, doing it the right way will at least reduce the amount of transfer the second time :p
[16:36] <cwillu_at_work> Karger78, after you've done the loop mount, check "df -h /mount/point"
[16:36] <Tiders-> How much of a speed boost does fakeRAID give
[16:36] <cwillu_at_work> Karger78, and then partition the sd card, mount the sd card, and rsync between the loop mount and the sd card ("rsync -vax /loop/mount/ /sd/mount/" should do it)
[16:36] <Karger78> ok
[16:36] <make> i need to set ubuntu server RAID0 ,help me. thanks all
[16:37] <cwillu_at_work> Karger78, but tell us the size, I'm interested :)
[16:37] <cwillu_at_work> _UsUrPeR_, suffice to say that I learned this the hard way :)
[16:37] <cwillu_at_work> (an image took over 48 hours to write once)
[16:39] <faLUCE> erUSUL: 9.10 karmic,  Intel Corporation Mobile 945GME Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[16:41] <capiscuas> an
[16:42] <erUSUL> !intel | faLUCE
[16:42] <cwillu_at_work> make, raid0?  really?
[16:42] <make> cwillu_at_work use the raid 0 to run squid.
[16:45] <cwillu_at_work> make, are you trying to use it as your root fs?
[16:46] <ionut>  i am having problems with ubuntu one .It gives me this error: "Authorization Failed- Error showing url: Failed to execute chil...firefox/firefox"(No such file or directory )
[16:47] <simcop2387-newpc> I'm running into a strange issue with dosbox, it refuses to see any directories or files that are mounted via cifs and i can't seem to figure it out
[16:47] <Diverdude> Is the content of /tmp deleted at each restart?
[16:47] <joaopinto> Diverdude, by default, yes
[16:47] <creature> Yes.
[16:47] <sambagirlx> hi i am having problems with the wireless on a powerbook g4 with hoary hedgehog 5.04 ppc version.
[16:47] <Diverdude> joaopinto, damnit....i had a 1.4GB file downloaded i needed
[16:48] <Spiderman> Hi! I've been looking high and low for a solution that makes my Webcam work in Ubuntu 9.10 "05e3:0503 Genesys Logic, Inc." I see tons of people getting it to work in 9.04 but I'm at a loss in 9.10, I have tried installing the drivers people are using to make it work in 9.04 but there are a lot of errors and it doesn't work... any ideas?
[16:48] <sambagirlx> seveeas are you heree?
[16:48] <salty> this is the quietest i have ever seen this channel
[16:48] <faLUCE> erUSUL: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance  <----- i have problems in paragraph 2 of "Problem: Falling back to OpenGL software rendering". but it doesn't say how to solve it
[16:48] <sambagirlx> seveas are u here?
[16:49] <joaopinto> Diverdude, you shouldn't keep important files on /tmp, never
[16:49] <erUSUL> faLUCE: then i really dunno; hoped that some workaraund worked for you... you can try  some ppa with newer drivers? look for X-edgers
[16:49] <joaopinto> sambagirlx, do you need help with something ?
[16:49] <conb123> What is a search domain? It's a field in the network manager in karmic.
[16:49] <erUSUL> !ppa
[16:49] <joaopinto> sambagirlx, ouch, there is very unlikely that you find someone with such an old version :P
[16:49] <cwillu_at_work> conb123, domain that hostnames should be checked against
[16:50] <faLUCE> ok erUSUL thanks
[16:50] <cwillu_at_work> if mine is cwillu.com, then "ping carey" will check "carey.cwillu.com"
[16:50] <conb123> cwillu_at_work: Isn't that called a dns server?
[16:50] <Diverdude> joaopinto, agreed...it was an installation file...i just didnt have time to install it...so i wanted to install it later...and then delete it
[16:50] <cwillu_at_work> conb123, not even close
[16:50] <grawity> conb123: If a program tries to resolve a domain name with only one component (components are the parts separated by dots), and a search domain set, then Linux will automatically append the search domain before querying DNS.
[16:50] <sambagirlx> is there a ubuntu ppc channel?
[16:51] <erUSUL> !ppc
[16:51] <grawity> conb123: As in cwillu_at_work's example.
[16:51] <salty> ppc, is that with the 100mhz cpu?
[16:51]  * grawity looks at assasin
[16:53] <BrixSat> during a configure how do i set the path to the kde dev libs?
[16:54] <erUSUL> BrixSat: the configure script should find them itself if not see ./configure --help
[16:54] <grawity> BrixSat: Do you have the KDE dev libs? They should be autodetected, if yes.
[16:55] <BrixSat> grawity i have the libs
[16:55] <BrixSat> but it does not detec
[16:55] <cwillu_at_work> BrixSat, you probably don't have the _right_ libs then
[16:56] <Spiderman> Anyone have any idea on making "05e3:0503 Genesys Logic, Inc." work in 9.10?
[16:56] <cwillu_at_work> Spiderman, what's broken about it?
[16:56] <cwillu_at_work> I was just talking about that hub in a different channel :)
[16:56] <BrixSat> cwillu_at_work how do i see if i have the right libs?
[16:56] <cwillu_at_work> BrixSat, ./configure will work if you have the right libs :p
[16:57] <Spiderman> I can't get it to recognize at all in any programs and I can't seem to find the drivers for 9.10 only for 9.04
[16:57] <cwillu_at_work> BrixSat, pastebin the entire output of ./configure
[16:57] <cwillu_at_work> Spiderman, there's no drivers for that, it's just a hub
[16:57] <cwillu_at_work> Spiderman, are you sure you're looking at the right device?
[16:57] <Spiderman> yeah, it's my webcam
[16:58] <Spiderman> a built in webcam
[16:58] <cwillu_at_work> Spiderman, that's not a webcam
[16:58] <cwillu_at_work> it's a 4-port usb hub
[16:58] <BrixSat> cwillu_at_work it does not work it stops http://pastebin.com/m785d2031
[16:58] <cwillu_at_work> Spiderman, pastebin the output of lsusb -t
[16:59] <cwillu_at_work> BrixSat, I know, that's how you know you don't have the right libs installed
[16:59] <cwillu_at_work> BrixSat, is that the entire output?
[16:59] <cwillu_at_work> BrixSat, including the command you're running
[16:59] <exodus_ms> hmmm, where are the files located that can be viewed in System -> Help and Support?
[16:59] <Leoneof`> i updated Ubuntu with new kernel but after reboot , then nVidia didn't work :(
[16:59] <cwillu_at_work> exodus_ms, /usr/share/doc/ I believe
[17:00] <exodus_ms> cwillu_at_work, thank you
[17:00] <cwillu_at_work> Spiderman, still here?
[17:00] <Spiderman> how do I pastebin I have it copied
[17:01] <Spiderman> I am new to this irc
[17:01] <quake_guy> when I try to FTP in from XP box, I get server is anonymous only when it worked fine before. I think DHCP messed something. Any suggestions?
[17:01] <cwillu_at_work> !pastebin | Spiderman
[17:01] <matteo1990>  i cannot connect to my wireless network in Kubuntu... Th network manager see it but if i double click on it i can't connect... I have a yellow dot  near the name... The same pc worked fine with ubuntu.. ANyone may help me?
[17:01] <Spiderman> !pastebin
[17:01]  * cwillu_at_work headdesks
[17:01] <quake_guy> oh yeah, the server is an Ubuntu box :)
[17:02] <cwillu_at_work> Spiderman, did you read the message?
[17:02] <exodus_ms> Spiderman, http://pastebin.com/ <-- copy contents there, then copy the URL and paste it here
[17:03] <exodus_ms> Spiderman, only paste the URL here :)
[17:03]  * cwillu_at_work realizes that it was a different idProduct, which means it might not actually be a hub;  anyways, still need the lsusb
[17:04] <Guest84888> I install Kubuntu how to activate it ?
[17:04] <matteo1990>  i cannot connect to my wireless network in Kubuntu... Th network manager see it but if i double click on it i can't connect... I have a yellow dot  near the name... The same pc worked fine with ubuntu.. ANyone may help me?
[17:04] <LjL> Guest84888: what do you mean by "activate" it?
[17:04] <creature> Does udev require a working /tmp when it gets started?
[17:04] <cwillu_at_work> Spiderman, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/215604 might be useful
[17:05] <Spiderman> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m66a2923f  Is this right
[17:05] <White_Pelican> I have a couple of questions. first off, I open the trash folder and it show's something in there but it's grayed out, and it won't disappear when I empty the trash. please explain
[17:06] <Guest84888> how to activate kubuntu in Ubuntu ?
[17:06] <erUSUL> Guest84888: install kubuntu-desktop
[17:06] <cwillu_at_work> Spiderman, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/215604 might be useful
[17:06] <erUSUL> White_Pelican: maybe the file has wrong permissions owner?
[17:06] <phenrique> alguém conhece algum canal irc de engenharia de software?
[17:06] <Spiderman> I'll give it a shot
[17:06] <erUSUL> !trash | White_Pelican
[17:06] <erUSUL> !br | phenrique
[17:07] <White_Pelican> erUSUL, I will check but it doesn't seem the permissions would be wrong but thy very well might be
[17:08] <exodus_ms> sudo apt-get install pastebinit   then  pastebinit /path/to/file/ -a Spiderman
[17:08] <kulych> Hi, I'm new in Ubuntu and i have got one question. Is there in Ubuntu 9.10 any program that runs on Linux exe file?
[17:09] <jpds> kulych: Windows programs?
[17:09] <White_Pelican> you mean a windows file?
[17:09] <llutz> !wine | kulych
[17:09] <erUSUL> !wine | kulych
[17:09] <Diverdude> kulight, there is no such thing as an exe file in linux
[17:09] <exodus_ms> kulych, Linux doesnt use .exe files do you want to run windows programs in linux?
[17:09] <mackstann> rhythmbox has some weird reverb effect on and i can't figure out how to get rid of it.. any ideas?
[17:09] <kulych> yes
[17:09] <cwillu_at_work> Diverdude, not true, mono binaries are .exe's :p
[17:09] <jpds> !wine | kulych
[17:09] <ericmcaine> kulych just install virtualbox
[17:09] <kulight> Diverdude, huh?
[17:10] <Diverdude> cwillu_at_work, yeah, but they need to run in the mono environment
[17:10] <ericmcaine> don't waste your time with wine
[17:10] <White_Pelican> erUSUL, I checked that folder and it's empty
[17:10] <kulych> Yes! Wine is that true :) Thanks :)
[17:10] <ericmcaine> unless you need to run something simple
[17:10] <jpds> ericmcaine: I've run Microsoft Office prefectly in Wine FWIW.
[17:10] <exodus_ms> kulych, what windows program are you wanting to run in Ubuntu?
[17:10] <shinku> ok, my hp pavillion dv4 sound doesnt works at all!
[17:11] <shinku> i've never faced such problem at my whole experience with lnx
[17:11] <kulych> I want tu run only any my program in C# :)
[17:11] <erUSUL> White_Pelican: maybe it is showing files on the trash of some removable media? (usb stick) never happened to me but who knows ?
[17:11] <ericmcaine> jpds: [12:10] <ericmcaine> unless you need to run something simple
[17:11] <ericmcaine> yeah I'm not knocking wine
[17:12] <White_Pelican> ah, that is possible
[17:12] <ericmcaine> but I don't have a taste for it :P
[17:12] <White_Pelican> ty erUSUL
[17:12] <Quadrescence> How do I trick apt into thinking it has texlive installed?
[17:12] <cwillu_at_work> Quadrescence, why would you want to do such a thing?
[17:13] <kulych> Can you recommend me any program for ICQ? :)
[17:13] <White_Pelican> next question. I'm an old KDE person but gave up on it because to be honest I don't like the new DE. In kde, I used to set up my audio and play multimedia buttins on my keyboard. how do I do that in Gnome?
[17:13] <cwillu_at_work> kulych, empathy or pidgin will do icq
[17:13] <erUSUL> !empathy | kulych
[17:13] <grawity> kulych: Pidgin, Empathy
[17:13] <Quadrescence> cwillu_at_work: Because Ubuntu has a shitty version of texlive that's like 3 years old, and I have the newest version, and I do not want to install Ubuntu's
[17:13] <cwillu_at_work> Quadrescence, install it from a ppa, or at least use checkinstall
[17:14] <magic_hat> hey everyone. I'm getting a long list of 404's when I try to apt-get update. Anyone know how to fix this?
[17:14] <cwillu_at_work> Quadrescence, also, watch your language
[17:14] <Quadrescence> cwillu_at_work: My language was intentional to express a degree of disgust.
[17:15] <kulych> Yes :) Pidgin is good :)
[17:15] <exodus_ms> anyone use stardict?
[17:15] <GhostWolf> hi i know im not in the right chan but i don't know if im in the right server but is this the server where i will find egghelp channel?
[17:15] <White_Pelican> yes pidgin is good but my only beef is it doesn't work with video and voice
[17:16] <White_Pelican> so I use skype for that :)
[17:16] <isolat3dsh33p> GhostWolf: #egghelp
[17:16] <kulych> yes. I use skype too..
[17:16] <GhostWolf> ok so its on this server than isolat3dsh33p?
[17:16] <exodus_ms> GhostWolf, ##egghelp
[17:17] <exodus_ms> GhostWolf, err, sorry #egghelp
[17:17] <GhostWolf> ok thanks
[17:17] <exodus_ms> isolat3dsh33p, :P  didnt see you there
[17:17] <Gercyk> Kosma Vs. DJ Johnny-Beast - MoonLight ( Radio Version ) ( Remix ).Mp3 *MUSIC*
[17:18] <isolat3dsh33p> exodus_ms: haha
[17:18] <haresh_> hello need some help please help me
[17:18] <exodus_ms> GhostWolf, have you looked here --> http://www.egghelp.org/
[17:18] <Diverdude> haresh_, state your problem
[17:18] <kulych> I want to download Flash plugin for Firefox, and there are any problems.:( Its impossible, or only i am stupid?:)
[17:18] <GhostWolf> exodus_ms, yes im on that site now its mainly about tcl where i don't know where i need to extract the files to
[17:19] <VCoolio> Quadrescence: where did you get the newer version and what are the advantages? mine is 2007 and works ok it seems, but I just started
[17:19] <haresh_> i have a doc which has all customers info and i want to make a mailing lables how can i do it
[17:19] <exodus_ms> kulight, apt-cache search adobe flash
[17:19] <isolat3dsh33p> kulych: What's the problem?
[17:20] <Gercyk> Ëèêà Ñòàð Vs. Ivan Spell È DJ Ðåíàò - Îäèíîêàÿ Ëóíà ( Remix ).Mp3 *MUSIC*
[17:20] <haresh_> and i cant posiably do it 1 by 1 i got 1000 + mailing addrress
[17:20] <exodus_ms> kulych, I used the 'flashplugin-installer' on my 64bit setup with no problems
[17:20] <haresh_> please help me
[17:20] <Gercyk> Ëèêà Ñòàð Vs. Ivan Spell È DJ Ðåíàò - Îäèíîêàÿ Ëóíà ( Remix ).Mp3 *MUSIC*
[17:20] <kulych> ok
[17:20] <ardchoille> Gercyk: wrong channel
[17:20] <kulight> kulight, why?
[17:20] <exodus_ms> haresh_, just type in the problem you are having
[17:21] <kulych> i have got .deb programme and when i run that, clic to Install
[17:21] <guntbert> haresh_: you better ask in #openoffice.org
[17:21] <isolat3dsh33p> exodus_ms: flashplugin-installer is the devil... D:
[17:21] <wvd> How do I give an user all permissions? Since the user doesn't seem to able to make directories. (I created an user with adduser <user> and passwd <user>)
[17:21] <kulych> that return this problem:
[17:22] <exodus_ms> isolat3dsh33p, well, in my case it was more like "the devil you know, or the devil you dont" :P
[17:22] <haresh_> no one is there to heko
[17:22] <guntbert> wvd: that user should e able to do anything within his home directory
[17:22] <kulych> listen, i might know, where is the problem :)
[17:22] <exodus_ms> haresh_, be patient dude
[17:22] <haresh_> i only got 2 hours to finnihs it
[17:23] <isolat3dsh33p> exodus_ms: that's weird to me. No flash button problems at all? D:
[17:23] <exodus_ms> haresh_, would this help, not sure if this is what you are talking about --> http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Writer_Guide/Print_labels_from_db
[17:23] <exodus_ms> isolat3dsh33p, are you using 64bit?
[17:23] <haresh_> but mine is in writer format
[17:24] <twig11> What is a user-friendly and dependable gui backup app for Ubuntu?
[17:24] <richthegeek1> isolat3dsh33p: I used to have problems clicking things in 64 bit flash
[17:24] <exodus_ms> haresh_, can you not create a csv file from the doc, import that file into calc for use as a db, then generate the lables from there?
[17:24] <isolat3dsh33p> exodus_ms: yes, and with compiz-fusion running. Flash works just fine after i uninstalled flashpluggins-installer
[17:24] <kulych> Yes :) That now runs :)
[17:24] <haresh_> humpo
[17:24] <richthegeek1> isolat3dsh33p: welsh, btw?
[17:25] <isolat3dsh33p> richthegeek1: welsh?
[17:25] <BrixSat> cwillu_at_work this is the full output (sorry so late) http://pastebin.com/m7c449031
[17:25] <exodus_ms> isolat3dsh33p, cool, well for whatever reason I have not had any problems, :) thanks for the heads up though
[17:25] <richthegeek1> isolat3dsh33p: isolated sheep ... sheep are welsh to me, mostly because I am from Wales. There are many sheep
[17:26] <assasin> How to use pidgin from behind a proxy server with NTLM authentication?
[17:26] <isolat3dsh33p> exodus_ms: lucky you | richthegeek1: haha, well did you solve the problem?
[17:26] <cwillu_at_work> BrixSat, you specified a prefix that doesn't have the libraries in it
[17:26] <richthegeek1> isolat3dsh33p: reinstallation solved it.. must be an odd result of installing the two flash packages in the wrong order or something?
[17:26] <cwillu_at_work> BrixSat, if this is a standard install, don't specify the prefix
[17:27] <cwillu_at_work> BrixSat, "./configure" should suffice
[17:27] <exodus_ms> richthegeek1, are you using flashplugin-nonfree now?
[17:27] <kulych> Do you know an interesting page on a Linux terminal?
[17:27] <richthegeek1> exodus_ms: yes
[17:27] <karma_police> !samba
[17:27] <exodus_ms> kulych, man bash :) <-- very interesting and cryptic
[17:27] <isolat3dsh33p> richthegeek1: as for me, i just uninstall the flashplugin-installer. Then the problem solved just like that.
[17:27] <kulych> :D
[17:28] <haresh_> how to install all form of java
[17:28] <haresh_> ?
[17:28] <richthegeek1> exodus_ms, isolat3dsh33p: I have flashplugin-nonfree AND flashplugin-installer installed
[17:28] <exodus_ms> richthegeek1, choose one
[17:28] <roffe> I'm having trouble accessing my friend through vpn. He gave me his IP, but when I type it, nothing happens. He doesn't get asked if I can connect
[17:28] <richthegeek1> exodus_ms: no need, flash works
[17:28] <exodus_ms> richthegeek1, ok, nevermind :)
[17:28] <richthegeek1> exodus_ms: lol, it used to be borked (had to tab to click) but on the latest install of my system it just works
[17:29] <om26er> !test
[17:29] <Guest82878> Hello, I was trying to create a USB start-up disc w/ the utility USB startup disc creator on ubuntu 9.10 I got an error and the process was aborted. The distro i was trying to install was nubuntu. I have already burn the iso. to a cd w/ berso or something like that. The purpose of the USB boot disc was to use it as a live USB. The size of the USB disc is 2gb. Can you help me create a live USB start up disc?
[17:29] <assasin> How to use pidgin from behind a proxy server with NTLM authentication?
[17:29] <eric_2> guest82878 is now eric 2
[17:30] <isolat3dsh33p> eric_2: Are you sure the iso you downloaded is for liveCD?
[17:30] <exodus_ms> haresh_, are you trying to install openoffice, I have to ask why you need java becuase I thought you were trying to generate mailing labels from a Writer file
[17:30] <richthegeek1> eric_2 : whenever you say "there was an error", or words to that effect, PLEASE say what the error was!
[17:30] <richthegeek1> eric_2: sure, some of the time they are useless but often they hint at what is causing the error
[17:30] <eric_2> ERROR coming up and no i was not sure if it was for a live cd give me 2 minutes
[17:31] <richthegeek1> eric_2: just "ERROR"? weird
[17:31] <haresh_> thay ask me install jaba
[17:31]  * exodus_ms   ERROR enter any 11 digit prime number to continue
[17:32] <exodus_ms> haresh_, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[17:32] <richthegeek1> exodus_ms: 27880282757
[17:32] <BrixSat> cwillu_at_work what would be the desired location of the libraries?
[17:33]  * exodus_ms starts counting toes using base 20
[17:33] <BrixSat> .
[17:33] <cwillu_at_work> BrixSat, have you _tried_ just typing "./configure" with no args yet?
[17:33] <richthegeek1> exodus_ms: I'll be honest there, I cheated
[17:33] <BrixSat> cwillu_at_work yes of course
[17:33] <BrixSat> same thing
[17:33] <exodus_ms> richthegeek1, lol, I dont think there is one
[17:33] <richthegeek1> exodus_ms: 99999999977 is one
[17:33] <eric_2> Error is ERRNO 5) input/output error
[17:33] <exodus_ms> *didnt
[17:34] <richthegeek1> eric_2: do you have an ISO of plain Ubuntu on your machine?
[17:34] <exodus_ms> haresh_, do you still need help dude?
[17:34] <haresh_> yeah
[17:34] <eric_2> no
[17:34] <richthegeek1> if so, try with that to make sure the disk is writeable
[17:34] <Guest74845> hi. i tried installing nvidia drivers on my laptop (ubuntu 9.10) and now X wont start. i just get a black screen with som white pixels at the top. can anyone help?
[17:34] <haresh_> how can i install java
[17:34] <haresh_>  ?
[17:34] <exodus_ms> haresh_, what version of Ubuntu?
[17:34] <richthegeek1> eric_2: right, might be an issue with the disk
[17:34] <haresh_> 8+
[17:34] <exodus_ms> haresh_, your intsall should already have some OpenOffice apps
[17:34] <cwillu_at_work> BrixSat, and you're sure you've got the kde3 dev libs installed?
[17:34] <eric_2> What do you mean? The USB?
[17:35] <haresh_> i know
[17:35] <richthegeek1> eric_2: yes, it might be damaged if its getting that error
[17:35] <BrixSat> cwillu_at_work how can i see if they really are
[17:35] <haresh_> but it say i need to install the jrest of jaba things
[17:35] <skeeter101> can someone point me to the right room to get assistance on setting up a virtualhost using ubuntu 9.10
[17:35] <richthegeek1> skeeter101: apache?
[17:35] <eric_2> Rhank you that would explain how i was able to install server edition on 1gb drive
[17:36] <eric_2> Thank you
[17:36] <exodus_ms> haresh_, are you trying to install the new version of OpenOffice?
[17:36] <roffe> In "remote desktop preferences" it says "Your desktop is only reachable over the local network." How do I make it reachable over the internet?
[17:36] <Pi-Why> hello
[17:36] <eric_2> so should i buy a new usb drive?
[17:36] <haresh_> its installed
[17:36] <richthegeek1> roffle: you could forward ports through your router to your iP
[17:36] <skeeter101> richthegeek1:  yes apache2
[17:36] <mobius2> roffe  port forwarding?
[17:36] <haresh_> but to do thigns i need to get all the jaba thigns to be installed
[17:36] <Pi-Why> can someone help me to get the source code of an image ?
[17:37] <richthegeek1> skeeter101: yes, I mean try the #apache room
[17:37] <cwillu_at_work> BrixSat, http://www.eurocardsharing.com/f273/faq-for-kaffeine-with-sc-plugin-and-cccam-installation-69987 seems to be vaguely correct
[17:37] <skeeter101> ty
[17:37] <isolat3dsh33p> eric_2: Have you check the iso's for liveCD?
[17:37] <BrixSat> cwillu_at_work :D
[17:37] <exodus_ms> haresh_, ok, well I'm confused then, what did you try in Open Office that prompted a dialog box telling you to install java, jre ?
[17:37] <eric_2> no how wouls i do that?
[17:37] <roffe> mobius2, I think the port in question is already open, but I'll check. Is it 5900?
[17:37] <haresh_> jre
[17:38] <isolat3dsh33p> eric_2: The download page?
[17:38] <haresh_> they ask em to instakk a jre
[17:38] <eric_2> All the download page said was 32-bit or 64-bit
[17:38] <exodus_ms> haresh_, openoffice.org-writer,sun-java6-jre  openoffice.org-officebean,sun-java6-jre  openoffice.org-java-common,sun-java6-jre  openoffice.org-filter-mobiledev,sun-java6-jre  openoffice.org-base,sun-java6-jre  openoffice.org,sun-java6-jre
[17:39] <eric_2> no option for live cd
[17:39] <haresh_> how to install
[17:39] <exodus_ms> sudo apt-get install sun-java6-jre   maybe?
[17:39] <isolat3dsh33p> eric_2: Then you probably can't make a bootable USB installer
[17:40] <exodus_ms> haresh_, or use synaptic and search for jre, or open office and install from there
[17:40] <magic_hat> hey everyone. I'm getting a long list of 404's when I try to apt-get update. Anyone know how to fix this?
[17:40] <eric_2> So i should download ubuntu create a live usb disc and boot off of it and install the programs and remove the ones i don't want and it will work?
[17:40] <haresh_> E: Couldn't find package jre
[17:41] <mobius2> the latest java does not seem to like the latest ubuntu kernel source fyi
[17:41] <richthegeek1> haresh_: use synaptic and search
[17:41] <mobius2> but at least updating doesnt break my linux :P
[17:41] <mobius2> thats a new one
[17:41] <exodus_ms> haresh_, at command line do   apt-cache search jre
[17:41] <richthegeek1> mobius2: an update that doesnt break linux? thats really quite odd
[17:42] <MarderIII> eric_2: maybe take a look at unetbootin, a program to make bootable usbsticks from livecd's.. just a hint
[17:42] <homezz> I am trying to connect to a windows7 box using fstab with no luck can anyone help
[17:42] <joejc> anyone here have multiple monitors AND graphics cards And use compiz?
[17:42] <h4f> homezz: you mean mount to ntfs file systme?
[17:42] <eric_2> The only problem is that i am not the admin
[17:42] <h4f> *system
[17:42] <soreau> ! anyone | joejc
[17:43] <homezz> h4f>  yes
[17:43] <guntbert> magic_hat: have a look at system/adminstration/software sources
[17:43] <eric_2> Sounds good though
[17:43] <h4f> homezz: did you shutdown your vista correctly ?
[17:43] <isolat3dsh33p> eric_2: listen to MarderIII, probably the USB disk creater is meant for Ubuntu releases only. :/
[17:43] <MarderIII> eric_2: unetbootin is <whisper> a windows proggie.
[17:43] <h4f>  homezz: can you mount it using "mount" manually ?
[17:43] <joejc> soreau, i'm not going to ask 1235 stupid people a long question i atleast want to know someone here can help me
[17:43] <mobius2> I'd love it if I could find a person whose figured out how to  get accellerated framerate using a DELL INSPIRON 4000 in Ubuntu
[17:44] <homezz> h4f: no I have tried it
[17:44] <joejc> i have low standars for this channel
[17:44] <exodus_ms> haresh_, you still there?   do  java -version   and tell me if you have anything
[17:44] <homezz> h4f: I just got windoz7
[17:44] <MarderIII> eric_2: no admin needed
[17:44] <soreau> joejc: Why are you asking here then? Go somewhere else
[17:44] <mobius2> There was a redhat driver on the dell website for this device
[17:44] <magic_hat> guntbert: not following you.
[17:44] <eric_2> Can you please explain how to do that for me?
[17:44] <joejc> soreau, theres a ton of people here at least 1 is smart
[17:45] <richthegeek1> soreau: whats your problem? you speak to people like youve got a stick stuck somewhere... no reason to be so rude all the time
[17:45] <h4f> homezz: what's your ntfs partition? should be like "/dev/sda3" like mine
[17:45] <joejc> i just need to know if there actually here or just idleing
[17:45] <mobius2> find yer partner dosey doe
[17:45] <mobius2> jesus someone open a new chan
[17:45] <guntbert> magic_hat: you had that 404 errors?
[17:46] <Tiders-> Are the Kubuntu download servers seriously down?
[17:46] <jpds> joejc: Ask your question and you'll find out.
[17:46] <cynical> joejc, lol, most of the time I help people with hardware I don't have or software I don't use.
[17:46] <magic_hat> guntbert: yes.
[17:46] <mobius2> looooooooool
[17:46] <soreau> joejc: Well you arent going to get any help by not asking a real quetion
[17:46] <jpds> Tiders-: Which ones are you talking about?
[17:46] <eric_2> MarderIII and isolat3dsh33p: open a private chat w/ me this is to crowded
[17:47] <Tiders-> jpds, I click "Download Kubuntu" and it says URL could not be found
[17:47] <soreau> richthegeek1: I thought they showed you how to use /ignore already
[17:47] <joejc> how do i get compiz enabled on 3 screens
[17:47] <mobius2> I am searching for the linux driver for DELL INSPIRON 4000 notebook video driver
[17:47] <guntbert> magic_hat: so you should check what server you have set for downloading - I told you the path through the menues
[17:47] <richthegeek1> soreau: but then I wouldn't have you as a perfect example of everything that is wrong with opensource and internet tough guys
[17:47] <jpds> Tiders-: Pick a mirror from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+cdmirrors
[17:47] <mobius2> :P:P
[17:48] <mobius2> you think he's tough!?!?! :P
[17:48] <Tiders-> !grub
[17:48] <homezz> h4f: Its on a network I had a winxp connect and just got replaced with win7 and now it wont connect
[17:48] <guntbert> richthegeek1: please don't insult others and stay on topic
[17:48] <richthegeek1> mobius2: he acts like he thinks hes tough, like hes king of the channel
[17:48] <richthegeek1> guntbert: not an insult
[17:48] <mobius2> i was actually agreeing lool
[17:48] <mobius2> but yes
[17:48] <mobius2> allow me to rev erse digress
[17:48] <guntbert> !ot | mobius2
[17:49] <h4f> homezz: don't know than. try ping at least to see if its replying
[17:49] <mobius2> I am getting 1500 fps via GLXGEARS
[17:49] <richthegeek1> guntbert: was just asking soreau to be a little nicer - as you say, it's the support channel so people come here for support
[17:49] <kulych> Exist any editor for C# in Linux?
[17:49] <Mrokii> hello. can anybody tell where virtual terminals (tty) get the keymap-settings from?
[17:49] <eric_2> Thanks guys
[17:49] <erUSUL> kulych: monodevelop is an ide for C#
[17:49] <exodus_ms> kulych, command line or gui?
[17:49] <joejc> how do i get compiz enabled on 3 screens ?
[17:50] <erUSUL> kulych: many editors support c# highlighting and such
[17:50] <ozzloy> what's the thing where i can run ubuntu from a thumb drive?
[17:50] <homezz> h4f: what shold the fstab look like to connect
[17:50] <mobius2> ozz  you can make a live bootable instance form any kernel source
[17:50] <h4f> homezz: if its on a network it shouldn't be in your fstab
[17:50] <MarderIII> kulynch: search plugins for the eclipse editor
[17:50] <mobius2> but im sure theres one already compiled
[17:50] <BrixSat> apt-get install gnome-art
[17:50] <homezz> h4f: where should it be
[17:51] <exodus_ms> kulych, you want an ide?
[17:51] <soreau> joejc: Depends on which graphics cards you plan on using. If you have two nvidia cards it should be possible with two xsessions. In any case, you would only be able to move windows between two of screens at a time
[17:51] <guntbert> richthegeek1: I'm in no position to judge :-) and yes lets keep things as nice and polite as possible :)
[17:51] <kulych> OK thanks :)
[17:52] <soreau> joejc: I believe latest ati cards have more than two monitor per card functionality but the feature is not yet implemented in latest linux drivers afaik
[17:52] <joejc> soreau, i have 3 monitors on 2 cards i want it to work exactly how it did with 2 monitors on 1
[17:53] <magic_hat> guntbert: I'm not using a GUI.
[17:53] <kylehuynh88> hey, I got a problem with dual boot ubuntu and windows 7
[17:53] <cynical> joejc, do you have an nvidia card?
[17:53] <joejc> cynical, yep
[17:54] <homezz> h4f: i just tried to connect using... places>connect to server and it worked but I have a program I am using in ubuntu and I cant find the networked drive
[17:54] <smeags> what are some must have apps i should download
[17:54] <exodus_ms> smeags, uh, for what?
[17:54] <ardchoille> !best
[17:55] <kylehuynh88> I installed ubuntu in 2nd partition (swap in 1st) and win 7 in third partition; the problem is after i restore booting ubuntu 9.10 I actually lost my boot menu
[17:55] <guntbert> magic_hat: in that case: open your /etc/apt/sources.list to see what server is set there, change that for a mirror close to you
[17:55] <Tiders-> How do I install GRUB if there is no GRUB to begin with
[17:55] <kylehuynh88> how could i restore the boot menu ?
[17:55] <Tiders-> Not restoring it
[17:55] <lorenzo_> hi, how do i not if my cpu is 32bit or 64 bit? thanks
[17:55] <Tiders-> lorenzo_, What CPU is it
[17:55] <exodus_ms> smeags, figure out what you want to do, what you need and search for an app that sounds like it might be what you need
[17:55] <Plouj-> hi
[17:56] <kulych> how diference is between Soft Center for Ubuntu and Synaptic? :)
[17:56] <smeags> is it possible to install office 2007 through wine?
[17:56] <lorenzo_> atom n270
[17:56] <eric_2> I have downloaded unetbootin on the ubuntu computer no what do i do?
[17:56] <ozzloy> can i get a link to the 64-bit version of ubuntu 9.10?
[17:56] <Tiders-> kulych, Softare center is more user friendly for downloading programs
[17:56] <LjL> kulych: Software Center won't list command-line applications
[17:57] <ozzloy> i'm finding only 32bit through ubuntu.com
[17:57] <exodus_ms> smeags, wine has a databse they keep a record of what works. what kind of works, and what doesnt
[17:57] <kulych> Best is apt-get install.. :)
[17:57] <ardchoille> ozzloy: yo9u want Karmic?
[17:57] <lorenzo_> Tiders-, atom n270
[17:58] <ozzloy> ardchoille, i guess so, i don't keep up with codenames.  is that 9.10?
[17:58] <cynical> joejc, add Option "TwinView" "true" to your xorg file. You should be able to use the Dynamic Twinview feature of nvidia-settings to update xinerama
[17:58] <eric_2> MarderIII i have now downloaded unetbootin on the ubuntu computer now what do i do?
[17:58] <cynical> joejc, to your config
[17:58] <ardchoille> ozzloy: yes, 9.10 is Karmic. Look here for amd64 release iso's: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[17:59] <dimitar> hi!how to set up camera in 9.10???
[17:59] <ozzloy> ardchoille, coool thanks
[17:59] <MarderIII> eric_2: try and run it.. but the windows version is better... :-)
[17:59] <ardchoille> yw
[17:59] <eric_2> K so what do i use to run it because it is asking me for an application to run it on
[18:00] <magic_hat> guntbert: where's the mirror list to choose from?
[18:00] <ardchoille> ozzloy: here's the link to the desktop 64bit iso: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[18:00] <joejc> cynical,  Dynamic Twinview?
[18:00] <MarderIII> eric_2: it asks for an iso and probably the usbstick put the iso on.
[18:00] <guntbert> !mirrors | magic_hat
[18:00] <ozzloy> ardchoille, cool.  i got it.  much thanks!
[18:01] <cynical> joejc, it's an nvidia-settings feature for managing multiple monitors
[18:01] <bobibobi> hi all
[18:01] <joejc> iv'e never seen that before
[18:01] <MarderIII> eric_2: if fails, try to download iso's on a windows machine and try to use the windows version of unetbootin
[18:01] <bobibobi> I have an issue with ubuntu 9.10 netbook remix and an asus 1005ha
[18:02] <bobibobi> i.e. there is no wired network after I wake up the laptop from sleep
[18:02] <MarderIII> Sigh... I dont believe I just advised to use <shudder> windoze.. ;-)
[18:02] <quentusrex_> I'm having issues witih my microphone....
[18:02] <bobibobi> after reboot everything works fine
[18:02] <quentusrex_> when I first boot up it works, but after the first use it is 'dead'
[18:02] <quentusrex_> until I reboot
[18:03] <homezz> i just tried to connect using... places>connect to server and it worked but I have a program I am using in  wine/(windoz) prog and I cant find the networked drive when i go to find files
[18:03] <bballplaya344> Hello all, I was wondering if anyone else is experience these problems in 9.10: --> first being the notification applet in gnome panel showing double icons at start up, and second, has anyone experience a high RAM usage lately after some updates?
[18:03] <MrKeuner> I wish Ubuntu One could be used to sync the apps on systems on account
[18:03] <quentusrex_> I've opened alsamixer and checked the settings there...
[18:03] <bobibobi> when I do lspci, the adapter doesn't show in the list
[18:04] <smeags> is there a way to get rid of the authentication box that pops up everytime i want to install something
[18:04] <rance94> hello can somebody help me wit gcc?
[18:04] <ZeekL> hey there, a ubuntu 9.10 grub reinstall question:  I had XP on /dev/sda1 and ubuntu on /dev/sdb1.  I reinstalled XP and went to reinstall the grub from a forum article (fdisk, mount, grub-install).  It installed fine, can get into ubuntu but it complains when booting XP. I think it is related to the grub entry for 'search --no-floppy --fs-uid --set #######' but not sure how to get a new '--set' value...
[18:04] <MarderIII> rance94: broad question..
[18:04] <exodus_ms> smeags, you need 'sudo' or rather 'root' privs to install apps
[18:04] <rance94> hello can somebody help me with the gcc compiler
[18:05] <MarderIII> rance94: maybe we can. maybe we cant. ask the question
[18:05] <IdleOne> rance94: more specific, what problem are you having?
[18:05] <rance94> MarderIII o well like compilng a .C program like i did gcc x.c
[18:05] <exodus_ms> smeags, if you use the command line to install stuff, then it will simply ask for the password, then continue on with the install
[18:06] <shashike> hi
[18:06] <MarderIII> gcc x.c -o x
[18:06] <rance94> idleone now what do i do after that dont i doo gcc -o x.C
[18:06] <shashike> i  have  a  question
[18:06] <homezz> i just tried to connect using... places>connect to server and it worked but I have a program I am using in  wine/(windoz) prog and I cant find the networked drive when i go to find files can anyone help
[18:06] <shashike> how  do  i watch  apple  videos  on  firefox>>
[18:06] <shashike> ??
[18:06] <rance94> marderIII ok i did that but like how do i run it that was my question lol i asked the wrong thing :)
[18:06] <exodus_ms> shashike, do you mean .mov files ?
[18:06] <MarderIII> ./x
[18:06] <Myrtti> shashike: ask ahead
[18:06] <shashike> no  no, the apple.com online videos
[18:06] <IdleOne> rance94: I have no idea. I was simply trying to get you to give more info so someone could help
[18:06] <BrixSat> cwillu_at_work thanks that solved half the problem now im stuck on the make http://pastebin.com/m15aad300
[18:07] <ardchoille> exodus_ms: I think he means quicktime vids
[18:07] <exodus_ms> shashike, or mp4?
[18:07] <rance94> marderIII it gave me an error
[18:07] <MarderIII> rance94: what error
[18:07] <rance94> marderIII it says no such file or directory
[18:07] <shashike> i am trying to watch apple online vids, u know the imac video
[18:07] <gianluca> hi
[18:08] <airtonix> shashike, you mean the trailers ?
[18:08] <MarderIII> rance94: then it didn't compile. Does x appear in directory? (ls)
[18:08] <shashike> exactly
[18:08] <shashike> yes  trailers,,
[18:08] <airtonix> shashike, and have you installed proper codecs ?
[18:08] <rance94> Marder111 It is in my home folder as x.C
[18:08] <shashike> i am new and i dont know if i have or havnt installed the codecs
[18:09] <MarderIII> rance94: but gcc x.C -o x does not give errors?
[18:09] <rance94> MarderIII ill try again
[18:09] <dimitar> i need help for my camera...i installed driver for my camera and its builted into the laptop...but my image is upside down...how to fix it?
[18:09] <dimitar> i need help for my camera...i installed driver for my camera and its builted into the laptop...but my image is upside down...how to fix it?
[18:09] <homezz> i just tried to connect using... places>connect to server and it worked but I have a program I am using in  wine/(windoz) prog and I cant find the networked drive when i go to find files can anyone help
[18:10] <rance94> MarderIII this is what i got: /tmp/ccGMTq8G.o:(.eh_frame+0x12): undefined reference to `__gxx_personality_v0'
[18:10] <rance94> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[18:10] <dimitar> homezz:what program?
[18:10] <airtonix> !restricted | shashike,
[18:10] <MarderIII> rance94: sounds like an error in the gcc install.
[18:10] <shashike> thanx
[18:10] <homezz> dimitar: it a cad/cam program I am using in wine
[18:11] <rance94> Marder111 so go reinstall it
[18:11] <intap1> i have a acer aspire 3680 i am running xubuntu and it wont let me properly shut down
[18:11] <shashike> i am just curious how does xchat work??
[18:12] <MarderIII> rance94: think that is a good idea.
[18:12] <exodus_ms> !sudo | smeags
[18:12] <dimitar> homezz:read the private message
[18:12] <exodus_ms> err
[18:12] <MarderIII> rance94: for simple c programming, you could also look at tcc compiler
[18:12] <dimitar> i need help for my camera...i installed driver for my camera and its builted into the laptop...but my image is upside down...how to fix it?
[18:13] <rance94> MarderIII ok im removing it and going to reinstall it should i pick the newer version to install
[18:13] <airtonix> shashike, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/openweekKarmic/IRCEtiquite
[18:14] <dimitar> i need help for my camera?
[18:14] <MarderIII> rance94: newest version best, but breaks some older source packages
[18:15] <airtonix> dimitar, have you searched for its machine id and the keyword karmic + ubuntu ?
[18:15] <MarderIII> rance94: tcc -> bellard.org/tcc
[18:15] <BillaBong-> hello people
[18:15] <BrixSat> why do i get thi error during compile? http://pastebin.com/m15aad300
[18:15] <MidnightBomber> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:15] <MidnightBomber>   libglade2-dev: Depends: libgtk2.0-dev (>= 2.0.6) but it is not going to be installed
[18:15] <MidnightBomber> E: Broken packages
[18:15] <dimitar> airtonix:no,how to do that?
[18:15] <rance94> MarderIII o ok kool ill go check it out
[18:15] <airtonix> !pastebin | MidnightBomber
[18:16] <MidnightBomber> my bad.
[18:16] <jontoenn> Need help with a new hard disk from LaCie
[18:16] <tux> hello i need help... i would use the function "disable touchpad while typing" in system---->settings---touchpad... but the "touchpad" submenu is absent! why? i need to specify that my touchpad initially was dead, i need to use a workaround ( not just me) the make it live.... what's wrong?
[18:16] <airtonix> dimitar, you would be using lspci in the terminal, and looking for something familiar that would identify one of the items as your camera
[18:16] <rance94> MarderIII omg it gave me the same error when i did it again?? :0
[18:17] <dimitar> airtonix:can i talk to you in a private room?
[18:17] <shruggar> I just printed a test page, and the ubuntu logo is cut off on the top. What needs to be adjusted and where do I adjust it?
[18:17] <airtonix> BrixSat, where did you download the package you are trying to compile ?
[18:17] <airtonix> !pm | dimitar
[18:17] <MidnightBomber> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m7458487e
[18:17] <frostburn> is there a more debian way of replacing the config files from an installed package?  other than doing a force clean?
[18:17] <n-iCe> how to install Z-Star Microelectronics Corp. ZC0303 WebCam
[18:17] <n-iCe> pls
[18:18] <jontoenn> Need help with a new hard disk from LaCie, "301304EK", can't get it to run in Ubuntu
[18:18] <BrixSat> airtonix rapidshare :)
[18:18] <MarderIII> rance94: <scratches head> what kind of machine are you using?
[18:18] <airtonix> BrixSat, so you just randomly searched rapidshare and found a compressed file then decided to compile it ?
[18:19] <MarderIII> rance94: what kind of processor?
[18:19] <intap1> i have an acer 3680 i it will not shut down cleanly
[18:19] <rance94> MarderIII it is an old dell xps and i just got tcc hehe
[18:19] <dimitar> airtonix:i found a lot of stuff...sd,mmc,graffic,net...but not the camera?
[18:19] <MarderIII> rance94: tcc works?
[18:19] <BrixSat> airtonix sure not! that is a plugin i had it compiled before on my other machine but on this machine it wont compile
[18:19] <intap1> using xubuntu
[18:19] <lozerfreek> ok i have a question about installing multi os'es
[18:20] <rance94> MarderIII Idk how do i get it to work
[18:20] <elnovato> hello
[18:20] <elnovato> what is a good dvd player?
[18:20] <shashike> i  just  installed  something  and  now  i  cant  install anything  from software center!!  please  help  me
[18:20] <intap1> goto bios make sure it is seen there
[18:20] <dimitar> elnovato:mplayer
[18:20] <haresh_> any one good in make ing mailing lables can help me ??
[18:20] <airtonix> BrixSat, short answer : you need to make sure you have met the dependancies of the compile. long answer : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware
[18:20] <intap1> 'then make the cd rom first boot
[18:21] <MarderIII> rance94: try tcc x.C
[18:21] <dimitar> shashike:go to installed programs click on a program and then remove
[18:21] <intap1> run live cdde install
[18:21] <rance94> MarderIII Ok ill go try it
[18:21] <gkahla> anyone familiar with DBUS in here?
[18:21] <lozerfreek> i had installed vista then xp then ubuntu but i cant get vista to boot, when i select it in the grub it goes to xp what can i do to correct this issue
[18:21] <BrixSat> airtonix i have skiped one dependenci artS i dunno what that is
[18:21] <rance94> MarderIII It Said unrecognized file type
[18:21] <airtonix> BrixSat, it is the sound backend system for kde
[18:21] <intap1> i need help for a acer 3680 it wont shut down properly
[18:21] <airtonix> !find arts
[18:22] <BrixSat> yes and how do i install it art
[18:22] <intap1> running xubuntu
[18:22] <oCean_> MidnightBomber: what does "apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-dev" output?
[18:22] <BrixSat> yes and how do i install it airtonix
[18:22] <g5pw> hi all! got a problem with my mouse on xorg fluxbox antone have time to help? thanks?
[18:22] <MarderIII> rance94: you installed it via synaptic?
[18:22] <shashike> how  do  i  findout  waht  sun-java6-jre  is??
[18:22] <guntbert> !enter | intap1
[18:22] <rance94> MarderIII YES
[18:22] <oCean_> shashike: what what?
[18:22] <haresh_> any one good in make ing mailing lables can help me ??
[18:22] <rance94> srry didnt mean to shout
[18:22] <rance94> MarderIII SRRY didnt mean to shout
[18:23] <gkahla> Epiphany web browser integration with Liferea - Karmic 64bit, Epiphany extension is enabled, 'liferea-add-feed' works from the commandline... any ideas?
[18:23] <MarderIII> rance94: strange. it looks as if you install wrong packages... :-(
[18:23] <Pip> HI, there is a folder named "downloads" in /home/pip, how to find it ?
[18:23] <rance94> MarderIII I got it to copile now how do i run it
[18:23] <shashike> okok  ,  not  to  worry,,  i used  the broken filter to remove it!!!, ubuntu rocks!!!
[18:23] <Pip> this is 9.10 btw
[18:23] <lozerfreek> can any one help?
[18:23] <rance94> MarderIII I had it as x.C but it should have been x.c
[18:24] <dimitar> Pip:go to Places in upper taskbar and the Download
[18:24] <Pip> I can find it with command find
[18:24] <MarderIII> rance94: _Is_ there an x file?
[18:24] <rance94> idk ill go look
[18:24] <Pip> dimitar, why can't I find it with command find ?
[18:24] <Pip> where exactly is it linked to ?
[18:24] <dimitar> Pip:where are you searching it?
[18:24] <rance94> MarderIII there is an a.out :)
[18:24] <eniacpx> Pip: What find command are you running?
[18:24] <oCean_> Pip: are you sure it is "downloads" and not "Downloads" ? Linux is case sensitive
[18:25] <MarderIII> rance94: Helleluja! do ./a.out
[18:25] <rance94> MarderIII thx it works
[18:25] <Pip> I use "find /home -type d -iname "downloads"
[18:25] <dimitar> oCean:it is Downloads...but you can find it by the downloads
[18:25] <rance94> MarderIII i know lmao finally!
[18:25] <MarderIII> rance94: lmao??
[18:26] <rance94> MarderIII it means laugh my ass off
[18:26] <BrixSat> how do i install arts?
[18:26] <claudia> #ubuntu-it
[18:26] <oCean_> Pip: yeah, that should return the Downloads directory, are you sure it is there?
[18:26] <MarderIII> rance94: :-)
[18:26] <oCean_> !afk > Mud|afk
[18:26] <g5pw> hello! i have some problems with the 0-point of the mouse cursor on X11... it looks like everything is shifted..
[18:26] <Mud|afk> your mom
[18:26] <rance94> MarderIII
[18:27] <rance94> MarderIII lol
[18:27] <dimitar> Pip:it is in filesystem
[18:27] <dimitar> Pip:/home/your_username
[18:27] <Pip> what is this folder --- /home/.ecryptfs/tomcraft/.Private/?
[18:27] <oCean_> Mud|afk: please behave
[18:28] <MarderIII> rance94: does it work correctly with gcc?
[18:28] <hellues> hey
[18:28] <Pip> my home folder is /home/tomcraft
[18:28] <hellues> what is that error
[18:28] <oCean_> BrixSat: arts as in gnome art?
[18:28] <hellues> E: Write error - write (28 No space left on device)
[18:28] <hellues> E: Couldn't write state file
[18:28] <FloodBot4> hellues: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:28] <hellues> sorry
[18:28] <rance94> MarderIII i think but i have to go now thx for your help
[18:28] <BrixSat> oCean_ no kde i think
[18:28] <hellues> i try to install a software i took this error what is that
[18:28] <lozerfreek> i messed up my install and was wondering how to mod the grub to allow multi os on the boot screen
[18:28] <unop> Pip, is "downloads" a symlink to another directory ?
[18:28] <MarderIII> hellues: full disk ... :-)
[18:28] <oCean_> hellues: one of your disk partitions is full, might be /var
[18:29] <MarderIII> hellues: or a too small partition
[18:29] <dimitar> lozerfreek:what os?linux and ...?
[18:29] <oCean_> !eyecandy | BrixSat
[18:29] <lozerfreek> window vista and xp
[18:29] <lozerfreek> i dont have my vista dvd anymore
[18:29] <BrixSat> oCean_ i dont what eyecandy i want to be able to compile a program that depends on that one
[18:29] <Pip> unop, how to locate the downloads file ?
[18:30] <R2D21> Känns som datorerna strular lite efter de senaste dagarnas uppdateringar?
[18:30] <oCean_> BrixSat: I misunderstood. You asked "arts" Desktop "candy" is often referred to as artwork
[18:30] <Pip> unop, file /mnt/home/tomcraft/downloads
[18:31] <unop> Pip, well, is it a file, a directory, a symlink?    because if it isn't a directory then "-type d" doesn't work
[18:31] <BrixSat> oCean_ :)  np but do you know how can i install arts?
[18:31] <unop> Pip,  I would try this.   find -L /home -iname "*downloads*"
[18:31] <oCean_> !se | R2D21
[18:31] <Berper> pop
[18:31] <dimitar> lozerfreek:come to private room
[18:31] <R2D21> oCean_, Opps sorry
[18:32] <oCean_> !info arts | BrixSat is it in the repos?
[18:32] <unop> Pip, ahh, what's the relation between /mnt/home/tomcraft/downloads and /home/pip/downloads ??
[18:32] <R2D21> oCean_, -SE was hided behind the list. (running Xchat)
[18:32] <lozerfreek> i had vista installed and then got xp from a friend(their both legal) and installed xp after, then i tried to install ubuntu and its the only one that works, when i select vista it open xp and no drivers will work there,i cant get vista to boot at all
[18:32] <Pip> unop, forget /home/pip/downloads
[18:33] <oCean_> R2D21: yeah, not sure why it wasn't in the list..
[18:33] <BrixSat> so how will i install arts oCean_ if it does not exist :S
[18:33] <unop> Pip, well ok,  then    find /mnt -iname "downloads"
[18:34] <DaZ> BrixSat: arts is an old audio daemon back from kde 3 <:
[18:34] <DaZ> why do you need it
[18:34] <oCean_> BrixSat: arts as in http://freshmeat.net/projects/arts ?
[18:34] <g5pw> anyone willing to help me sort out an X11 issue?
[18:34] <BrixSat> DaZ i need to install the plugin for the dependencie on my pluging kaffeine
[18:35] <hiexpo> got a few warnings from rkhunter shoud i be alarmed?
[18:35] <ardchoille> hiexpo: depends on what the warnings are
[18:35] <BrixSat> oCean_ you got that :D
[18:35] <hiexpo> let met show you thanks
[18:35] <DaZ> BrixSat: are you sure it's compatible with the new kaffeine?
[18:35] <oCean_> BrixSat: yeah, I'm not familiair with that. Maybe DaZ can help
[18:36] <hiexpo> Checking for TCP port 1524                               [ Warning ]
[18:36] <BrixSat> daz no i dont know http://www.eurocardsharing.com/f273/faq-for-kaffeine-with-sc-plugin-and-cccam-installation-69987
[18:36] <DaZ> BrixSat: what  kaffeine plugin are you compiling
[18:36] <hiexpo> Checking for TCP port 6666                               [ Warning ]
[18:37] <hiexpo>  Checking for TCP port 6667                               [ Warning ]
[18:37] <guntbert> !paste | hiexpo
[18:37] <oCean_> hiexpo: try to keep your problem description in one single line. Use pastebin to paste multiple lines of text
[18:38] <hiexpo> ok thanks ill do it right now
[18:39] <Whitor> Does anyone have a link for a ~quick~ image posting site akin to a pastebin for text?    Just a temporary place to throw an image to illustrate a problem I'm having ?
[18:39] <guntbert> !paste
[18:39] <drakon> Hay, how do I set my default File Manager? Does anyone know?
[18:40] <BrixSat> daz did you saw what i was trying to install?
[18:40] <Whitor> Thanks guntbert
[18:40] <guntbert> Whitor: :)
[18:40] <DaZ> BrixSat: i'm searching
[18:43] <drakon> Hay, how do I set my default File Manager? Does anyone know?
[18:43] <padhu> How can i install Moonos theme in ubuntu 8.10?
[18:44] <ionut> does anyone knows a good php editor ?
[18:44] <oCean_> !afk > g5pw|away
[18:45] <drakon> Hay, how do I set my default File Manager? Does anyone know?
[18:45] <g5pw> hello! anyone willing to help me with some x11 issues?
[18:45] <BrixSat> daz do you want the file?
[18:46] <Adam75> yo
[18:46] <DaZ> BrixSat: i've found it, also packaged for ubuntu
[18:46] <BrixSat> :o
[18:46] <Slyone> Hey guys, how can i create my own m3u playlist?
[18:46] <BrixSat> plz send to me :)
[18:46] <DaZ> BrixSat: http://www.mediafire.com/?9g2cquuacmo
[18:47] <hiexpo> ?
[18:47] <DaZ> BrixSat: but it depends on old kde
[18:47] <hiexpo> i did a rescan and i noticed the site you sent me must be an image file
[18:48] <Slyone> Hey guys, how can i create my own m3u playlist?
[18:48] <ardchoille> hiexpo: do you need to paste some text?
[18:48] <hiexpo> tes
[18:48] <ardchoille> !paste | hiexpo
[18:48] <hiexpo> yes
[18:48] <saftsack_> hey, why hasnt ubuntu a xinetd in apt-cache?
[18:48]  * jham 
[18:48] <ardchoille> hiexpo: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[18:48] <hiexpo> thanks
[18:49] <fgiasson> Hi Everybody! I am in a kind of a mess right now. I did want to upgrade the PHP version on my ubuntu server by using the command "apt-get upgrade php". However, in the process I got this log error: ""Preparing to replace libc6 2.7-10ubuntu4 (using .../libc6_2.7-10ubuntu5_i386.deb) ... head: error while loading shared libraries: /lib/libc.so.6: file too short""... then, everything that was run (which uses libc.so.6) was sending 
[18:49] <LjL> !info xinetd | saftsack_ it does
[18:49] <saftsack_> strange ;)
[18:49] <DaZ> !find kdelibs3
[18:49] <RedDragon> hi
[18:49] <ardchoille> !afk | g5pw
[18:50] <genii> DaZ: kdelibs3 would be for KDE2 series. kdelibs4 would be for KDE3, etc
[18:50] <Slyone> Hey guys, how can i create my own m3u playlist?
[18:50] <RedDragon> on lm-sensors where is the config file so i can set email
[18:51] <DaZ> genii: i'm not much into ubuntu packaging scheme
[18:51] <DaZ> i just want to know if it ships kde3 [;
[18:51] <BrixSat> thanks a lot :D DaZ
[18:51] <DaZ> BrixSat: does it work?
[18:51] <genii> DaZ: Hardy Heron was the last Kubuntu shipped with KDE3
[18:52] <Mudkipz> Hiya, can anyone help me with an update problem? Some updates won't install.
[18:53] <DaZ> genii: and there are no compatiblity packages for software depending on qt3/kde3?
[18:53] <Mudkipz> Is anybody who can help here?
[18:54] <hiexpo> ok i did it now what?
[18:54] <bbogart> Hey all, I had a question about upgrading ubuntu. I've been doing update-manager upgrades since breezy, and things have been steadily getting weirder, pulseaudio misbehaving, my gnome menus getting messed up, gdm stopped working for a while. After this many online upgrades does doing a fresh install (without reformatting /home) a good idea. or a waste of time/effort?
[18:54] <Mudkipz> I can't install updates. I get this error: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[18:54] <Mudkipz> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[18:54] <Mudkipz> Also, I'm in Xubuntu if that matters.
[18:54] <DaZ> meh. i've found it [;
[18:55] <BluesKaj> bbogart , forget the update manager , in the terminal : sudo do-release-upgrade
[18:55] <oCean_> hiexpo: you have pasted your lines? In that case, you can tell this channel your issue, and paste the link here
[18:55] <cwillu_at_work> BluesKaj, that's the same thing in this case
[18:55] <Like> hi any one can sound in X-fi Xtreme audio ubuntu 9.10 ?
[18:55] <RedDragon> does anyone know how to use lm-sensors
[18:55] <oCean_> hiexpo: the paste should have returned a link where your paste can be found
[18:55] <cwillu_at_work> update-manager triggers do-release-update, unless he's been changing sources manually and dist-upgrading
[18:56] <claudia> #ubuntu-it
[18:56] <BrixSat> daz going to test now
[18:56] <hiexpo> ok i scaned with rkhunter and got a few warnings should i be alarmed ? http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m4c9a3957
[18:56] <DaZ> Like: x-fi series is supported since kernel .31 or .32
[18:56] <sebsebseb> hi
[18:56] <BluesKaj> cwillu_at_work, well you're entitled to your opnion but in case of gui probs , the terminal is the most direct route
[18:57] <Like> the card is recognized Daz but the sound not sound !!!
[18:57] <DaZ> Like: maybe it's muted? [;
[18:57] <Like> i dont know
[18:57] <Like> i up oll the levels
[18:58] <Like> but nothing happeng
[18:58] <RedDragon> how do i set email in lm-sensors?
[18:58] <junruh> Is here a German Server, too?
[18:58] <cwillu_at_work> BluesKaj, he's not having problems with the update gui;  "do-release-update" would have had the same issues, it doesn't address why his install is getting flacky
[18:58] <oCean_> hiexpo: you could check what programs are running at those ports by using the command netstat, like "netstat -anp |grep 6667"
[18:58] <darrend> !de | junruh
[18:58] <oCean_> hiexpo: then you can decide if you really need that program to run, or that you can disable it
[18:59] <BluesKaj> cwillu_at_work, ok then, help the guy  :)
[18:59] <hiexpo> ok
[18:59] <drakon> =_= Does anyone know HOW to change the Default File Manager?...
[18:59] <cwillu_at_work> BluesKaj, was halfway through a line to him, which I just cleared to reply to you :p
[18:59] <Diverdude> how do i execute a .sh script?
[18:59] <DaZ> Diverdude: using sh ?
[18:59] <b0w> Diverdude: sh script
[18:59] <jefimenko> is there a way to restart gdm without losing my current X session? i have a problem where, everytime I try to switch users, the switch user screen locks up (keyboard input does nothing) and i have to SSH into the machine and do "sudo chvt 7" to recover
[18:59] <oCean_> Diverdude: if it is executable "./script.sh"
[19:00] <BluesKaj> cwillu_at_work, excuses excuses ...i din't address you in the first place
[19:00] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, if you make a new user, does that user behave properly?
[19:00] <cwillu_at_work> BluesKaj, yes, yes you did :p
[19:00] <B_Lizzard> Just saw a netbook with Ubuntu stickers here in Sparta, Greece... good work people ;)
[19:00] <cwillu_at_work> granted, after I poked you :p
[19:00] <hiexpo> ok all of them are on listen
[19:01] <bbogart> BluesKaj, thanks so there is no difference between a fresh installation and upgrade? (despite my strange configuration issues steadily increasing through each upgrade?
[19:01] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, yes, there can be differences, but start with creating a fresh user just to see if it also acts weirdly
[19:01] <burg> how can i install a sql server on ubuntu? i want sql, not mysql or any other-sql
[19:01] <BluesKaj> cwillu_at_work, this was my first post about the subject "bbogart , forget the update manager , in the terminal : sudo do-release-upgrade"
[19:01] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, that was my understanding also.
[19:02] <sisif> Hello. Any one here willing to take a look at my squid.conf and maybe point out what did I do wrong ?
[19:02] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, if the new user is weird, then the issues are with your profile, so reinstalling and restoring your home may not accomplish much
[19:02] <Like> any one can help me i have my X-fi in no sound mode the driver is instaled but no sound !!! model X-Fi Xtreme Audio
[19:02] <MrKeuner> How can I export the repositories in a single file to be imported by another system?
[19:02] <Diverdude> hmm i am trying to create a launcher in the desktop panel, which starts an SSH shell with some special parameters. WHen i press the launcher, it prompts me for a password, I enter it, but then nothing happens...There is no terminal opening. Am I missing something?
[19:02] <hiexpo> how do i disable them?
[19:03] <RedDragon> burg: i think my you need to chose one like mysql or mssql or something
[19:03] <manuel__> hi
[19:03] <cwillu_at_work> !offline | MrKeuner
[19:03] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, I'm not sure if anyone else has just been doing the old upgrade for this long. I read somewhere doing this method of upgrading constantly can cause issues and a fresh installation is called for once and a while, I was just looking for confirmation.
[19:03] <cwillu_at_work> Diverdude, make sure you set the launcher as "open in terminal"
[19:03] <manuel__> i just booted my laptop and i cant mount my second encrypted partition anymore
[19:03] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, I've got a warty machine that's been upgraded
[19:03] <Diverdude> cwillu_at_work, where do i do that?
[19:03] <burg> RedDragon: so no way i can use install a simple sql server on ubuntu?
[19:03] <cwillu_at_work> as my main desktop at home
[19:04] <cwillu_at_work> Diverdude, properties on the launcher
[19:04] <Travis-42> Can I configure postfix to simply log emails rather than send them?
[19:04] <cwillu_at_work> Diverdude, "Application in Terminal" is the setting
[19:04] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work,  I just thought of that myself, trying it now.
[19:04] <BrixSat> daz compiling still needs arts
[19:04] <BrixSat> but the .deb goes ok
[19:04] <hiexpo> ooops did ant
[19:04] <hiexpo> redoing
[19:05] <Diverdude> cwillu_at_work, ahhh yes....nice...is it possible to send password as a parameter to ssh, so that I dont have to write it everytime i run the launvher?
[19:05] <RedDragon> burg: well you can but i think sql is like liunx, there isn't just a liunx there are differet ones
[19:05] <manuel__> manuel@think:~$ sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/mapper/daten_crypt /mnt/daten/
[19:05] <manuel__> mount: /dev/mapper/daten_crypt already mounted or /mnt/daten/ busy
[19:05] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, typically it's crufty config files, in the profile and so forth;  if you "install package maintainer's version" on packages that you've never changed things, you'll get fresher settings, although you'll occasionally be changing behaviour (which is the point :p)
[19:05] <Like> pci -e
[19:05] <hiexpo> ok it does not show any of those ports running
[19:05] <manuel__> how can i find out wich programm is using my dev?
[19:05] <Like> help!!!!
[19:06] <burg> RedDragon: yes, and i guess there are little differences on the syntax, that`s why i want sql and not mysql
[19:06] <DaZ> BrixSat: there are old qt and kdelibs in the repo
[19:06] <erUSUL> manuel__: sudo lsof /dev/watever
[19:06] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, good to hear, and you've never seen any issues?
[19:06] <DaZ> downloading them should make it compile
[19:06] <cwillu_at_work> manuel__, if you have a shell open to the mount, or launched a program in a terminal while the current working directory was in the mount, you need to close those first
[19:06] <RedDragon> burg: well i really don't know what you want it for
[19:06] <DaZ> but if it works i wouldn't bother myself.
[19:07] <Teal> So... My function key is stuck on. Can anyone help? On a tx2z HP laptop.
[19:07] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, I've had lots of issues, but generally I can clear them up pretty quickly.  Definitely check for bug reports, and file bugs if you don't find one:  upgrades are a completely supported approach, and so those bugs do get attention
[19:07] <cwillu_at_work> I can't think of any lingering issues on that machine right now, for instance
[19:08] <manuel__> hmm lsof says nothing on dev/mapper and on /mnt...
[19:08] <manuel__> so seems not to be busy
[19:08] <RedDragon> durg: what do you want sql for
[19:08] <cwillu_at_work> manuel__, how are you checking?
[19:08] <manuel__> i dont have anything on the path
[19:08] <hiexpo>  oCean  it does not show anything running on any of those ports
[19:08] <manuel__> lsof /dev/mapper/daten_crypt
[19:08] <cwillu_at_work> manuel__, use the mount point
[19:08] <manuel__> lsof /mnt/daten
[19:08] <manuel__> i did
[19:08] <manuel__> no outout
[19:08] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, gdm broke, and it took two releases to get fixed, no one could figure out what went wrong, but it was fixed in jaunty. logging into new user...
[19:09] <manuel__> output
[19:09] <cwillu_at_work> try "lsof | grep /mnt"
[19:09] <MrKeuner> cwillu_at_work, does that script add the required repositories automatically?
[19:09] <cwillu_at_work> should be equivalent, but you never know :p
[19:09] <cwillu_at_work> MrKeuner, you've read that page more recently than me :p
[19:09] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work,  ick, "you session lasted less than 10seconds"
[19:09] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, fresh new user...
[19:09] <Diverdude> is it possible to open a new terminal from a script file?
[19:09] <cwillu_at_work> MrKeuner, afaik, you end up with a bunch of deb files that you can install on the remote machine
[19:10] <Teal> So... My function key is stuck on. Can anyone help? On a tx2z HP laptop.
[19:10] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, check ~/.xsession-errors on that user
[19:10] <RedDragon> can someone help me with lm-sensors?
[19:10] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, "mkdtemp: prvate socket dir: Permission denied"
[19:11] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, sorry, "sudo lsof | grep /mnt"
[19:11] <cwillu_at_work> oh, bah
[19:11] <cwillu_at_work> getting my users confused :p
[19:11] <shruggar> can anyone link me to a guide to accessing (ie: filesharing) an Ubuntu system from Vista? Vista just doesn't seem to know the Ubuntu system is there. (trying to read files which are on the Ubuntu system)
[19:11] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, what's the permissions on /tmp?
[19:11] <Diverdude> how do i create a new terminal from a .sh script?
[19:11] <cwillu_at_work> ls -ld /tmp
[19:11] <Diverdude> and run a command in that terminal
[19:11] <manuel__> cwillu_at_work: still no output
[19:11] <cwillu_at_work> manuel__, add an -l to the umount line
[19:12] <llutz> Diverdude: "xterm -e cmd &"
[19:12] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, drwxrwx---
[19:12] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, well, that's wrong :p
[19:12] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, group is my main username for some reason.
[19:12] <cwillu_at_work> drwxrwxrwt
[19:12] <Diverdude> llutz, ok, and how do i then script a command to be run in that terminal?
[19:12] <cwillu_at_work> you probably did a chown on it by accident at some point
[19:12] <MrKeuner> cwillu_at_work, looks like it creates a list of wget lines for each package selected. That would not help fully, packages would not be automatically upgraded when security upgrades arrive, for instance
[19:12] <guest20009> iltaa
[19:13] <Dr_Willis>  shruggar  in short.. install the samba package.. edit /etc/samba/smb.cfg to make sur the workgroups are the same.  Give the user s 'samba' password witjh 'sudo smbpasswd -a username'   then make some shares.
[19:13] <llutz> Diverdude: "cmd" is your script
[19:13] <Dr_Willis> !samba | shruggar
[19:13] <manuel__> manuel@think:~$ sudo umount -l /mnt/daten/
[19:13] <manuel__> umount: /mnt/daten/: not mounted
[19:13] <shruggar> Dr_Willis, yep, all that was done already.
[19:13] <RedDragon> on lm-sensors where is the config file so i can set email
[19:13] <shruggar> Dr_Willis, this setup previously worked with windows XP
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> i also use the same username on wiondoss as linux shruggar   - and i edit the smb.conf to enable the home shares.
[19:14] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, whats the "t" a the end?
[19:14] <guest20009> Hello can some1 help me i am trying to use Ubuntu and xubuntu in same computer and like to use same /home folder is this possible?
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> shruggar:  ive found XP to be so flakey at times.. its scary...
[19:14] <cwillu_at_work> RedDragon, synaptic can tell you a list of installed files, which will include the config files.  There's also a dpkg equivlent
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> shruggar:  see if the linux box can see the windoss machine/sahres and its own shares.
[19:14] <manuel__> hmm just seeing that i have the following processes in htop
[19:14] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, 'sticky'.  Means that the permissions are set to the creator of the file, and only accessible to the creator
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> shruggar:  also check out the smbtree and findsmb commands to test the network
[19:14] <RedDragon> where do i set email
[19:15] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, also, user and group should be root on /tmp
[19:15] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, ah, setting via sudo shmod +rwx /tmp leads only to rwxrwxr-x
[19:15] <cwillu_at_work> a+rwx
[19:15] <sebsebseb> guest20009: yes
[19:15] <burg> RedDragon: for study at school. i used to use oracle, on windows, and not shure what to install now on ubuntu
[19:15] <sebsebseb> guest20009: also you don't need  Ubuntu on one partition, and Xubuntu on another partition
[19:15] <manuel__>  /lib/crpytsepup/askpass
[19:16] <bbogart> cwillu, a+rwx does the same, still rwxrwxr-x
[19:16] <shruggar> Dr_Willis, trying to double-click "Windows Network" under "Network" in ubuntu, I get "Failed to retrieve share list from server"
[19:16] <sebsebseb> guest20009: since you can install Xubuntu/XFCE inside Ubuntu/Gnome  or  Ubuntu/Gnome inside Xubuntu
[19:16] <cwillu_at_work> a+rwxt
[19:16] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work,  a+rwx does the same, still rwxrwxr-x
[19:16] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, I have both names on highlight :p
[19:16] <airjump> hello
[19:16] <RedDragon> burg: what you mean like fore a web database
[19:16] <guest20009> sebsebseb: I like to use same files for both linux
[19:16] <uns3en> hey ppl
[19:16] <fgiasson> For people interested in my apt-get issues, I just explained the whole issue with some logs here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8537649#post8537649
[19:16] <sebsebseb> guest20009: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop  or  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[19:16] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, chown root:root /tmp as well
[19:16] <airjump> i have a problem with my old usb stick
[19:16] <manuel__> and cryptsetup -c ..... luksOpen .... /dev/mapper/think-daten
[19:16] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, still no changes.. still the same permissions
[19:16] <airjump> dmesg | grep usb
[19:16] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, is /tmp a mount?
[19:16] <sebsebseb> guest20009: then select which one you want to use from the log in screen, and one of them will be the default
[19:17] <airjump> [  832.048578] usb 2-4: device descriptor read/64, error -110
[19:17] <uns3en> any1 else having problems getting wine out of reps?
[19:17] <sebsebseb> guest20009: uhmm the commands.  I meant to give you this one as well sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:17] <airjump> can someone help me ?
[19:17] <guest20009> sebsebseb: oh so i make unnessery install when i installed both in same computer
[19:17] <sebsebseb> guest20009: exactly
[19:17] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, what does df /tmp say?
[19:17] <llutz> bbogart: set sticky-bit? sudo chmod 1777 /tmp
[19:18] <gdiz> hello everyone, I am trying to share a printer on my ubuntu 9.10 box.  I checked share printers from this system and allow remote administration from the cups server, I set up sharing on the printer configuration.  Is there something I am missing?
[19:18] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, not a mount point, just a dir. And sudo chown root does not change things, the file is still shown as owned as my user, something certainly wrong here...
[19:18] <didiermah> french
[19:18] <guest20009> sebsebseb: my computer is quite too slow for ubuntu so is it same to run xubuntu inside ubuntu than xubuntu alone? for hardware
[19:19] <didiermah> french8
[19:19] <didiermah> french!
[19:19] <didiermah> bonjour
[19:19] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, sudo apt-get install pastebinit; dmesg | pastebinit
[19:19] <uns3en> any1 else having problems getting wine out of reps? I get "wine1.2 broken" error when typing 'sudo apt-get install wine'
[19:19] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, oh wait, I do see tmpfs in df but mounted to /lib/init/rw not /tmp (which is not in df)
[19:19] <Jamed> !fr | didiermah
[19:19] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, yep, that looks fine
[19:20] <filipje1993> hey guys
[19:20] <guest20009> sebsebseb: i mean is it base same? and i only change desktops?
[19:20] <sebsebseb> guest20009: yes
[19:20] <guest20009> sebsebseb: thanks for a lot
[19:20] <sebsebseb> guest20009: how much RAM?
[19:20] <guest20009> sebsebseb: 1gb
[19:20] <filipje1993> i have a question about playonlinux
[19:20] <guest20009> sebsebseb: but vga controller is too slow for ubuntu 3d
[19:21] <MASARUwota> !ask|filipje1993
[19:21] <assargadon> Are there some easy, more or less user-friendly way to share ntfs drive?
[19:21] <filipje1993> ok
[19:21] <sebsebseb> guest20009: which card?
[19:21] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work,  pastebin.com/f29f75179
[19:21] <Dr_Willis> assargadon:   you mean set up a samba share? or share btween os's ?
[19:21] <cwillu_at_work> thanks
[19:22] <cwillu_at_work> (incidently, include the http:// so that I can just click it :)
[19:22] <assargadon> Dr_Willis: yes, I mean samba share
[19:22] <filipje1993> uh, when i tried installing age of empires 3, play on linux was busy for over 20 minutes for copying only the first disk. i then cancelled the isntallation
[19:22] <Dr_Willis> assargadon:  i just install samba and make a proper entry for it in the smb.conf  samba is the kind of tool thats worth learning well
[19:22] <filipje1993> and now my disk wont get out of my pc
[19:22] <uns3en> any1 else having problems getting wine out of reps? I get "  wine: Depends: wine1.2 but it is not going to be installed" error when typing 'sudo apt-get install wine'...
[19:22] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work,  http://pastebin.com/f29f75179
[19:23] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, I meant for next time :p
[19:23] <assargadon> Dr_Willis: yup, I know the different admin-ways. Two of them really.
[19:23] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, hehe
[19:23] <MASARUwota> !enter|filipje1993
[19:23] <guest20009> sebsebseb: it's laptop ati vga 16mb intergrated
[19:23] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, you're on 9.04?
[19:23] <assargadon> Dr_Willis: Question is: if there are some user-friendly way I can explain to non-admins
[19:24] <cwillu_at_work> assargadon, there's a nautilus "share this folder" clicky thing
[19:24] <uns3en> any1 else having problems getting wine out of reps? I get "  wine: Depends: wine1.2 but it is not going to be installed" error when typing 'sudo apt-get install wine'...  Karmic x86_64
[19:24] <kalos> Ciao amici di #ubuntu
[19:24] <kalos> ciao
[19:24] <guest20009> sebsebseb: i buy this computer for starting to learn using linux
[19:24] <MarderIII> filipje1993: tried to unmount? worst case... reboot.
[19:24] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, ls -lh / | pastebinit
[19:24] <filipje1993> when i tried installing age of empires 3, play on linux was busy for over 20 minutes for copying only the first disk. i then cancelled the isntallation, and now my disk wont get out of my pc
[19:24] <assargadon> cwillu_at_work: yes, thanks, but it doesn't work for NTFS disks
[19:24] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, yup
[19:24] <hellues> hey
[19:25] <assargadon> cwillu_at_work: while works for folders like ~/Music
[19:25] <MarderIII> filipje1993: repeating wont make you popular..
[19:25] <Dr_Willis> assargadon:  depends on what/how they want  to do shares. for sahreing stuff out of their own home dir. theres some share feature on the rioght click menu. PROBLEM with shareing a ntfs drive. is that you may need to tweak the permissions on the drive. and mount it via fstab  Not let it 'auto mount on access'
[19:25] <hellues> how can i remove gnome and other gnome package in one time
[19:25] <cwillu_at_work> assargadon, you sure?  I'd expect that it wouldn't work because it wasn't something owned by the user, not because it was ntfs
[19:25] <hellues> i dont have enough space on my hdd
[19:25] <hellues> i have to remove gnome and other gnome package to release free space
[19:25] <hellues> how can i do that
[19:25] <sandeepb> how to configure wifi for atheros 5001 in ubuntu 9.10
[19:25] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, crap. I'm a dumbass, I was looking at the wrong tmp (~/tmp not /tmp) permissions fixed, trying to log back into test user.
[19:25] <filipje1993> how can i unmount?
[19:25] <cwillu_at_work> lol
[19:26] <hellues> hey
[19:26] <MrKeuner> hellues, find a package that all gnome applications require and uninstall it
[19:26] <hellues> pls i need urgent help
[19:26] <assargadon> cwillu_at_work: yes, of course, it doesn't works becouse of wrong owner, not becouse of ntfs.
[19:26] <hellues> MrHeavy,  this is waste of time
[19:26] <switchcat_> Greetings, I need to download some packages (on windows) to get a new 9.04 install online.  I am using public access points and the basic setup/install of 9.04 doesn't have tools which makes this easy/it doesn't wanna find the connections, does anybody have any good suggestions of packages that I can download and then transfer over to install? thanks..
[19:26]  * cwillu_at_work adds hellues to his ignore list
[19:26] <hellues> i need to delete in one time
[19:26] <sandeepb>  how to configure wifi for atheros 5001 drivers in ubuntu 9.10
[19:26] <assargadon> cwillu_at_work: problem is NTFS drives is most common situation with wrong owner
[19:26] <lexvegas> hey guys. I just solved a problem with my sound on my laptop, where should I post it for other people to see?
[19:26] <MarderIII> filipje1993: try to find the cd in the filemanager, and (right/left?) click.
[19:27] <kabahCortes> hi!
[19:27] <Myrtti> lexvegas: forums, perhaps?
[19:27] <MrKeuner> hellues, you cannot uninstall that package without uninstalling the ones that require it, hence it will happen at one time
[19:27] <kabahCortes> how do i log in on ubuntu-es chat channel???
[19:27] <g5pw> anyone know how to setup sound on a lowmem basic ubuntu 9.10?
[19:27] <guest20009> sebsebseb: have to go thanks for advice :)
[19:27] <assargadon> Dr_Willis: as far as I understand, there are no GUI way to modify the owner of the mounted disk?
[19:27] <cwillu_at_work> assargadon, not sure, but you might be able to make a symlink in the user's dir (if not, make a folder, and put a symlink in the folder), and share that.  There's a samba config item to allow that sort of shenanigan, not sure if its on or off by default though
[19:27] <uns3en> any1 else having problems getting wine out of reps? I get "  wine: Depends: wine1.2 but it is not going to be installed" error when typing 'sudo apt-get install wine'...  Karmic x86_64
[19:27] <Jamed> kabahCortes: /join #ubuntu-es
[19:27] <lexvegas> Myrtti, okay, sounds good
[19:27] <g5pw> anyone know how to setup sound on a lowmem basic ubuntu 9.10?
[19:27] <kabahCortes> thx
[19:27] <Dr_Willis> assargadon:  its best to just make a proper entry in the fstab.. dependin on how you want it owned.
[19:28] <Dr_Willis> assargadon:  every ftab ediing gui ive ever seen.. had limitations/issues.. and i ended up just doing it by hand anyway
[19:28] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, config appears fine, default panel arrangement.
[19:28] <theshadow> How do I make it so openvpn doesn't start at boot?
[19:28] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, k, you might find that your default setup acts less weird now too
[19:29] <Diverdude> is it possible to create a mountpoint in /media/ folder+
[19:29] <Diverdude> ?
[19:29] <cwillu_at_work> you'll have to log out and back in at least, maybe give it a complete reboot just to make sure everything that might care gets restarted
[19:29] <g5pw> anyone know how to setup sound on a lowmem basic ubuntu 9.10?
[19:29] <cwillu_at_work> Diverdude, yep, that's all anything that shows up in /media is
[19:29] <Dr_Willis> Diverdude:  of course it is.. just make a directoruy. and edit fstab to mount whatever to that dir
[19:29] <assargadon> Dr_Willis: well, yes, it's common situation...hmmm...ok, anyway, thanks.
[19:30] <Docteh> I just deleted a 140gb file on a ext3 partition and df -h doesn't reflect it, what can I do to fix the available disk space count? I ran du -x on the partition and it only sees 30gigs of stuff
[19:30] <filipje1993> i found where the cd is located (cdrom0), what do i do next to unmount it?
[19:30] <cwillu_at_work> assargadon, it's actually anything that gets mounted in /media afaik
[19:30] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, I'll give that a try, thanks.
[19:30] <cwillu_at_work> Docteh, deleted or trashed?
[19:30] <Docteh> well i did rm in a console
[19:31] <uns3en> filipje1993, umount /media/cdrom0
[19:31] <cwillu_at_work> Docteh, it finished without errors?
[19:31] <Docteh> aye
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> assargadon:  untill not so long ago the use of ntfs-3g was very UNCOMMON. :)
[19:31] <cwillu_at_work> oh, wait;  was it like a vm image or something
[19:31] <cwillu_at_work> Docteh, ^^^
[19:31] <Dr_Willis> assargadon:   there is the ntfs-config tool that can add fstab entries i belive fro  ntfs/vfat filesystems
[19:31] <cwillu_at_work> Docteh, if it was a sparse file, then any empty segments of the file wouldn't have been taking up any space, despite their size
[19:32] <assargadon> Dr_Willis: yes, I installed it manually in some earlier ubuntu version
[19:32] <Kylus> Hello, does anyone know of a good HOWTO on setting up full disk encryption for a fresh 9.10 install? I have gone through using the 'guided to set up encrypted LVM' option on the alternate installer disk and it goes through the install, then chokes on reboot with 'unable to find partition'
[19:32] <xerox1> hi, i am trying to develop a little tool for ubuntu with java; my tool should be provided under GPLv3; Problem: i am using to libs; both use BSD as license; so, am i allowed to use GPLv3 ?
[19:32] <Docteh> cwillu_at_work: it wasn't sparse, it was a straight dd, and the partition was full of stuff
[19:32] <assargadon> Dr_Willis: but addin NTFS support REALLY helps to people to make decision to try ubuntu
[19:32] <xerox1> two
[19:33] <mmarc__3> hi
[19:33] <cwillu_at_work> Docteh, what fs was it?
[19:33] <Docteh> ntfs
[19:33] <Dr_Willis> assargadon:  its been argued both ways and across the world ways..  ntfs-config tool does allow you do do a few clicks and enable full access to ntfs filesystems.   Or not allow any at all.
[19:33] <MarderIII> filipje1993: depends  how you found it.. in the filemanager?
[19:33] <Docteh> should I umount and fsck my ext3 partition?
[19:34] <Dr_Willis> assargadon:  personally during the install - i give my ntfs fs's a mountpoint so its rarely an issue for me.
[19:34] <cwillu_at_work> Docteh, if you run 'top' in a terminal, in the very top line where it says %wa, does it show anything?
[19:34] <MarderIII> filipje1993: ah sry i see uns3en already answered
[19:34] <cwillu_at_work> Docteh, sorry, the fs that the file was on
[19:34] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, one of my issues is still there, I guess I'
[19:34] <cwillu_at_work> Docteh, was ext3?
[19:35] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, nobody promised you that you only had one underlying cause :p
[19:35] <Docteh> yup. ext3
[19:35] <assargadon> Dr_Willis: you mean, your NTFS volumes are hard-mounted?
[19:35] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, upgrade, and see then file a report if its not fixed by the upgrade
[19:35] <cwillu_at_work> Docteh, if you run 'top' in a terminal, in the very top line where it says %wa, does it show anything?
[19:35] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, I hope not! ;)
[19:35] <sprung> assargadon, huhuhuh hard mounted
[19:35] <assargadon> not this way, when you clicking on SOMETHING on you computer:///
[19:35] <assargadon> an it appears in /media?
[19:35] <guntbert> !ot | xerox1
[19:36] <BorgF> irc://irc.freenode.net/pxe
[19:36] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, but the main question is, i what situation does a fresh install a good idea over upgrade?
[19:36] <g5pw> anyone know how to setup sound on a lowmem basic ubuntu 9.10?
[19:36] <Dr_Willis> assargadon:  i have entries for them in fstab, eitehr made by the installer, or by the ntfs-config tool.  if thats what yiou mean.
[19:36] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, when you've lost patience and don't care about existing install/config/etc
[19:37] <Docteh> cwillu_at_work: its between 0.0 and 0.3% for wa
[19:37] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, I personally hate restoring from backups, and am philosophically opposed to suggestions that I need to decide up front how much space to allocate to /home, so I just upgrade :p
[19:37] <cwillu_at_work> Docteh, :/
[19:37] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, well, you can always fresh install only overwriting / and not /home
[19:37] <g5pw> anyone know how to setup sound on a lowmem basic ubuntu 9.10?
[19:37] <cwillu_at_work> Docteh, you didn't install any "safe rm" features at any point did you?
[19:38] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, no, no you can't :p
[19:38] <sprung> see what you've got to do is plan on doing a lot of fsking if you're going to go hard-mount a partition
[19:38] <cwillu_at_work> at least, not as easily as it might appear
[19:38] <fujimitsu> cwillu_at_work , bbogart , i almost always find it better to fresh install .. hint: keep your /home in a separate partition
[19:38] <gkahla> anyone use epiphany-browser in here? having trouble with epiphany / liferea integration on Karmic 64bit -
[19:38] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, I'm sure I saw that option somewhere, to install without reformatting for each partition...
[19:38] <cwillu_at_work> fujimitsu, <cwillu> I am philosophically opposed to suggestions that I need to decide up front how much space to allocate to /home, so I just upgrade :p
[19:38] <mmarc__3> I'm new adopter from rpm-based distros. Could you please help to get sorted with the following features, it I'll find solutions, this will keep me with ubuntu. First, I'm using karmic 9.10 on laptop. Is there a way for soft plugging in external monitor? I'd like the laptop's 1024x600 screen to show cutted desktop mirrored with the external screen having better resolution - 1024x768 or 1200x1024. It's a usual behavior, is it possble to set
[19:39] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, if you have a separate home, yes
[19:39] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, fujimitsu, I do put /home separately.
[19:39] <[Spooky]> Anyone here play Battleforge?
[19:39] <gkahla> cwillu_at_work-  bbogart types the truth! a separate /home partition makes system recovery *very* easy.
[19:39] <tech__> Do any of you guys use asterisk?
[19:39] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, I certainly have issues with this machine that no one else does, gdm not working through two releases would be noticed if I was not the only one!
[19:39]  * cwillu_at_work is not interested in this conversation
[19:40] <cwillu_at_work> I'm not the one with a broken install :p
[19:40] <Docteh> tech__: theres an asterisk channel on freenode, but they'll make fun of you if you're using the packages in apt
[19:40] <mmarc__3> ok, I guess, it's too crowded, and all are busy.
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> mmarc__3:  for the monitor - it often depends on the video chipset/driver and laptop i find.
[19:40] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, well, it being broken the second time is just a statement about how it was broken the first time
[19:40] <assargadon> Another question. Why, when I clicking on NTFS disk in "computer:///", it mounted itself with root as owner, while flash drive are mounted with me (assargadon) as owner?
[19:40] <Dr_Willis> mmarc__3:  you can try plgging it in and trying the laptop 'monitor' combo keys and it may just 'work' ive had seeral laptops that worked that way.. some required me to run the xrandr tools
[19:41] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, dpkg-reconfigure -a -phigh can fix a broad class of things with a sledgehammer-style approach :)
[19:41] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, my plan is to just upgrade then, and make a new user from which I'll copy from my old home directory where needed. I'd rather not have to deal with backing up my SVN repo.
[19:41] <Docteh> assargadon: whoever wrote the easy to use gui doesn't have anything ntfs probably. you can manually mount stuff as owned by your user
[19:41] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, no, if you have a separate home you can just reinstall without reformatting it
[19:41] <KnightCast> "/quit
[19:42] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, I'm never used it in that manner, but I am familiar.
[19:42] <mmarc__3> Dr_Willis: I'm using the msi wind u100, monitor key works (!!! that's cool -I know only two distros where it works: moblin, and now - ubuntu), but here it seems to hang when switching
[19:42] <Dr_Willis> mmarc__3:  my AAO worked.. and my other laptop wiorked.. but ive seen some where its a total disaster. :)
[19:42] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, maybe I'll put SVN in another partition next time...
[19:43] <Dr_Willis> mmarc__3:  i saw one laptop that defaulted to the external monitor.. even tho one was NOT plugged in. :)
[19:43] <assargadon> Docteh: "manually" means "via console" ?
[19:43] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, thanks for your help.
[19:43] <mmarc__3> another question: where you guys missed Texmaker?
[19:43] <cwillu_at_work> np
[19:43] <gkahla> bbogart-  you might consider making SVN it's own user
[19:43] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, out of curiosity, how old is that desktop machine? Mines a duron 800, just about  10 years old now
[19:44] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, it's a 1.6ghz something something, been through a bunch of different hardware on the installation
[19:44] <cwillu_at_work> 4 video cards, a motherboard, 2 harddrives
[19:44] <cwillu_at_work> same install <3
[19:45] <cwillu_at_work> bbogart, earliest kernel I still have installed is a 2.6.24-17-generic
[19:45] <cwillu_at_work> that's around when I started fooling around with rdsl kernels for a work project
[19:46] <guntbert> cwillu_at_work: interesting - but still ...
[19:47] <nazzzux> What software can I use to burn audio disks from mp3 files? I tried Brasero, got the error message "*.mp3 is not suitable for audio or video media."
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> nazzzux:  thers some extra codecs/packages yiou need to instgall.
[19:47] <Dr_Willis> !mp3
[19:47] <RonaldH> Winamp not Running
[19:48] <erUSUL> nazzzux: brasero should work. install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:48] <cwillu_at_work> I'm sorry, I moved to linux to _avoid_ having to reinstall the operating system every six months
[19:48]  * Dr_Willis sends cwillu_at_work  a C64
[19:49]  * cwillu_at_work installs linux on said c64, and then over the years puts it into subsequently more powerful machines, without reinstalling the os once
[19:49] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, hehe, I'm only on the second HDD and video card, and PS, and more RAM, but otherwise stock.
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> I think your definition of reinstalling is... odd.. :P
[19:49] <Dr_Willis> well night all.
[19:50] <cwillu_at_work> Dr_Willis, I don't put in a live cd, I don't...aww, he left :p
[19:50] <nazzzux> erUSUL: Thanks.
[19:50] <bbogart> cwillu_at_work, Thats why i use debian on my serious machines (ouch!)
[19:50] <fujimitsu> got an installation halting with no errors while reading the system devices, namely, the scsi disks and sd disks.. logical problem is there is only one hard drive
[19:50] <guntbert> cwillu_at_work: I didn't doubt your experience / I share your opinion about upgrades / I only wanted to point to the topic of this channel :)
[19:50] <cwillu_at_work> fujimitsu, under recovery mode?
[19:50] <Kylus> encrypted lvm
[19:51] <cwillu_at_work> guntbert, it was in the context of somebodies installation going weird after multiple upgrades;  sharing my experiences is part of the support role :p
[19:51] <fujimitsu> no, just running the disk install as normal . even 'trying before install' fails the same way
[19:51] <BitWraith> I'm trying to download the kubuntu-64 livecd via bittorrent, but I keep getting an error "Unable to connect to tracker." Is this a problem with my bittorent client or is something actually wrong with the torrents on the site?
[19:52] <nazzzux> erUSUL: Brasero still wont work :/
[19:52] <fujimitsu> cwillu_at_work: its a gateway 835gm, with all them media readers and gizmos
[19:53] <erUSUL> nazzzux: you chhose an audio cd in the first screen?
[19:53] <guntbert> cwillu_at_work: it was only a *little* pointer - but I better shut up before I make it too complicated :-)
[19:53] <cwillu_at_work> fujimitsu, some machines don't get along with the tricks needed for a livecd.  There's probably some combination of settings to make it work, but it's probably easier to just install with the alternate-mode install cd
[19:54] <guntbert> BitWraith: if your client cannot connect the tracker that has nothing to do with the peers
[19:54]  * cwillu_at_work requests guntbert's friendship on facebook, and setting our relationship status to "it's complicated"
[19:54] <fujimitsu> cwillu_at_work: hm.. didnt think of the alternate..
[19:54] <BitWraith> guntbert, I see.
[19:54] <fujimitsu> might work
[19:55] <switchcat_> Q: Is there a dependency checker anywhere online? in other words, I can enter in which version of ubuntu I have, and it will tell me if say, the program I want to downloads dependencies would already be installed on a base system?
[19:55] <guntbert> BitWraith: btw there are no "torrents on the site" - all feeds come from peers
[19:55] <bishop> joining
[19:56] <mmarc__3> sorry, but I have to point this once again: texmaker package is not available to me somewhy: "E: Couldn't find package texmaker", but apt-file found "texmaker: /usr/bin/texmaker" - How could this happen?
[19:56] <guntbert> switchcat_: try /msg ubottu info <packagename>
[19:56] <BitWraith> guntbert, I assume you probably use bittorent yourself. Which client do you use?
[19:56] <guntbert> BitWraith: transmission
[19:57] <BitWraith> I was trying to use Qtorrent. but so far it hasn't worked yet.
[19:57] <fujimitsu> mmarc__3: checked yer source.list?
[19:58] <mmarc__3> fujimitsu: sry, I don't know, how
[19:59] <guntbert> mmarc__3: did you update the apt database? sudo aptitude update
[19:59] <hiexpo> thanks for the help all i think i got it now most were false negs
[19:59] <csc2> hello
[19:59] <csc2> is there any small (in size , < 1GB) ubuntu-based ditro ?
[20:00] <bakarat> ....once again my dm-crypt-ed drives are NOT working when i update ubuntu :'(
[20:00] <mmarc__3> guntbert: "Reading package lists... Done", after that still no texmaker
[20:00] <bakarat> i am still on 9.04 for fear of massive breakage, did a normal update and now it won't boot anymore
[20:00] <mmarc__3> anybody can install it?
[20:00] <bakarat> any ideas?
[20:00] <fujimitsu> mmarc__3: if the download source for that package is not in the repo, yer going to have to find that source and add it to the list
[20:00] <guntbert> mmarc__3: now sudo aptitude install texmaker
[20:00] <Sogorukuhn> Hi @ all
[20:01] <guntbert> fujimitsu: texmaker IS in the repos
[20:01] <MASARUwota> !hi|Sogorukuhn
[20:01] <Sogorukuhn> Do someone know what's wrong with Launchpad?
[20:01] <mmarc__3> guntbert: Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "texmaker"
[20:01] <guntbert> mmarc__3: what version of ubuntu?
[20:01] <Sogorukuhn> Launchpad & Ubuntu One are down=(
[20:02] <mmarc__3> guntbert: 9.10: Linux marcusmae-laptop 2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:04:26 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[20:02] <fujimitsu> it should be available to karmic users ..
[20:02] <trism> mmarc__3: make sure you have universe enabled, because it is in there
[20:03] <fujimitsu> !info texmaker
[20:03] <DJones> Sogorukuhn: I've got access to both Launchpad and UbuntuOne
[20:03] <guntbert> mmarc__3: (I'm a bit slow today): did you enable universe?
[20:03] <BitWraith> guntbert, transmission worked where qtorrent failed... Thanks for your help.
[20:03] <mmarc__3> guntbert, trism: I have it here: "Hit http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com karmic/universe Packages"
[20:03] <Sogorukuhn> DJones: Yes. But try to download a file
[20:03] <guntbert> BitWraith: glad you made it :-)
[20:03] <mmarc__3> maybe turn from ru to unternational?..
[20:04] <BobSapp> ubuntu is great, but why does my desktop effects always get garbled when i update all packages?
[20:04] <Docteh> mmarc__3: the ru part just means russian mirror
[20:04] <techrascal> power consumption is 20-30 watts with nominal usage and wakeups-from-idle per second are 342 -->on ubuntu 9.10
[20:04] <techrascal> how to debug it?
[20:04] <mmarc__3> Docteh: ok, then I wonder, where's texmaker :)
[20:05] <Sogorukuhn> I become an crash-error in the Ubuntu One client but became then an error while trying to send a bugreport. And when I try to download a file on the Site I become: Service Temporarily Unavailable The server is temporarily unable to service your request due to maintenance downtime or capacity problems. Please try again later.
[20:05] <Sogorukuhn>  Apache/2.2.8 (Ubuntu) mod_python/3.3.1 Python/2.5.2 mod_ssl/2.2.8 OpenSSL/0.9.8g Server at files.one.ubuntu.com Port 443
[20:05] <hwilde> how do I sync my time clock with the ntp servers??
[20:05] <hwilde> this used to be built in to the clock
[20:05] <malifal> hello!
[20:05] <bishop> hey
[20:05] <Docteh> hwilde: running ntpd is more accurate than doing the occasional ntpdate
[20:06] <DJones> Sogorukuhn: i've no problem downloading from ubuntuone and have just downloaded a file from launchpad, seems ok to me
[20:06] <hwilde> Docteh, it's all installed and everything but my clock is 5 minutes off !
[20:06] <Docteh> wow
[20:06] <Sogorukuhn> Hm. Seems to be an error only on my pc?=(
[20:06] <guntbert> hwilde: system/administartion/time ...
[20:07] <bakarat> at which point do dm-crypted drives get decrypted and by who? grub?
[20:08] <BobSapp> merry christmas to all ubuntu users!
[20:08] <MASARUwota> !hi|BobSapp
[20:08] <bishop> hohoho
[20:08] <MASARUwota> !merry_christmas
[20:08] <MASARUwota> ;_;
[20:08] <malifal> runlevel question - i was going thru sysv-rc-conf and i noticed that /etc/init.d/networking is set to runlevel 0 and 6 only, i don't use network-manager, should i set networking to 2,3,4,5 also?
[20:08] <llutz> BobSapp: your date differs
[20:08] <Docteh> bakarat: grub just starts the kernel, nothing more
[20:09] <guntbert> !runlevels | malifal
[20:09] <bakarat> Docteh, so where do i set the decryption options for dm crypt? i mean which drives to decrypt etc
[20:09] <Docteh> i dunno i dont use dm-crypt
[20:10] <malifal> !upstart
[20:10] <mmarc__3> can't solve it, heh, bad :(
[20:10] <switchcat_> Q: I just installed a package (wifi-radar) which allegedly had all it's dependencies satisfied.. so I go and actually try to launch the program and it tells me: "Could not laung 'Wifi-radar' Failed to execute child process "Su-to-root" (No such file or directory)" any suggestions?  thanks
[20:10] <switchcat_> oh, btw, on 9.04
[20:11] <mmarc__3> next thing to know is how to increase number of workspaces?
[20:11] <valera> 123
[20:12] <malifal> guntbert: so?
[20:12] <DJones> mmarc__3: If you mean the number of workspaces shown in the bottom right of the screen, right click on the workspace icon & select preferences and change the numbers as needed
[20:13] <techrascal> kernel ipi causing 150-200 wakeups per second and the wakeups from idle are around 400 per second
[20:13] <eric_3> I have an Ubuntu 9.10 computer and i was wondering if i could get an iso. from that computer rather than downloading it. Is this possible?
[20:13] <techrascal> this is draining the battery very fast
[20:13] <guntbert> malifal: runlevels don't have the meaning we are used to  from other distros - so if you got no problem don't try to fix something that maybe ain't broken :-)
[20:14] <mmarc__3> DJones: cool, thanks, sorry, I thought it is not working this way, as xubuntu
[20:14] <trism> mmarc__3: it should be there, it is right here on the mirror http://ru.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/t/texmaker/ (you could just download the deb if you wanted, but apt should find it)
[20:14] <MASARUwota> !hi|newbie_
[20:15] <frojnd> !build
[20:15] <eric_3> Ubottu can you help me?
[20:15] <ubuntu_> Hello, i was turning my computer off to fast so Grub failed anyone know how to fix this without reinstalling the Whole Kubuntu System?
[20:15] <eric_3> ubottu sorry
[20:15] <eric_3> ubottu
[20:15] <ardchoille> eric_3: It's a bot
[20:15] <malifal> guntbert: but i do i have a problem, when i restart ubuntu, usually i need to run /etc/init.d/networking manually so eth0 can acquire a dhcp ip
[20:15] <eric_3> i know
[20:16] <MASARUwota> !on-topic|eric_3
[20:16] <ctmjr> !clone | eric_3
[20:16] <eric_3> thats what makes it fun
[20:16] <MASARUwota> :/
[20:16] <ardchoille> eric_3: you can't really turn your system back into an iso, but did you save the iso file?
[20:16] <_Trullo> ubottu, how do I install my mce remote?
[20:16] <timmillwood> what laptop should I get, looking for one that had good Ubuntu support and can double up for gaming.
[20:16] <eric_3> no we upgraded from previos versions
[20:16] <ardchoille> !hcl | timmillwood
[20:16] <MASARUwota> _Trullo: dont ask a bot :/
[20:16] <ardchoille> eric_3: Then you're better off downloading a new iso file
[20:17] <mmarc__3> trism: it cannot find it :(
[20:17] <eric_3> My connection speed makes it take 6hrs. though and i don't want to wait that long
[20:17] <didiermah> !french
[20:17] <eric_3> so is it possible
[20:18] <DarkWell> hmm
[20:18] <DarkWell> doesn ubuntu liveCD support twofish-XTS-essiv:sha256 crypto for dmcrypt ?
[20:18] <EDDUARDDO> aeee povo!!!
[20:18] <EDDUARDDO> blz
[20:18] <ardchoille> eric_3: you can buy a pack of 5 cd's for about 8 dollars
[20:19] <ardchoille> eric_3: http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=17&osCsid=5ce440770b989d111664e20c555e58fe
[20:19] <eric_3> but shipping will take a while
[20:19] <eric_3> and shipping takes longer than 6hrs.
[20:19] <EDDUARDDO> tem brasileiro aki?!!?
[20:19] <ardchoille> eric_3: sounds like it'd be faster to download the livecd
[20:19] <eman> can someone help me with syncing my mp3 player banshees not working out to well for me
[20:19] <DJones> !br | EDDUARDDO
[20:19] <eric_3> I want a quick download
[20:19] <ardchoille> eman: try rythmbox
[20:20] <lgc> Hi, I'm new with Skype and can't make it work. It won't even get through the test call. help.
[20:20] <MASARUwota> !skype|lgc
[20:20] <ardchoille> eric_3: have you tried downloading via torrent?
[20:20] <EDDUARDDO> valew
[20:20] <mmarc__3> trism: also it can't find vlc
[20:21] <eric_3> I know i should probably download the iso. but i was just wondering if there was a quicker way maybe revert my system into an iso. and is torrent faster?
[20:21] <ardchoille> eric_3: most people find that torrents are faster
[20:21] <guntbert> malifal: ok, then it should not hurt to type sudo update-rc.d network enable 23435
[20:22] <lgc> MASARUwota, I have skype installed since long, but never used. I recently upgraded to 9.10. Do you think a reinstall is in order?
[20:22] <mdeonte> how do i set it so other users can read my home dir?
[20:22] <eric_3> faster than just downloading off of server? How is torrent faster
[20:22] <afroman> hello. I can't connect poivy to the internet. does anybody know why?
[20:22] <ardchoille> !torrent | eric_3
[20:22] <eric_3> k thanks
[20:23] <eric_3> now that i know torrent is faster where do i get torrent download of ubuntu
[20:23] <afroman> does anybody know how to connect poivy the net?
[20:24] <eman> ardchoille: thanks
[20:24] <afroman> anybody uses poivy here?
[20:25] <VCoolio> eric_3: http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/
[20:25] <MASARUwota> !anyone|afroman
[20:25] <eric_3> Vcoolio thanks
[20:25] <afroman> does anybody know how to connect poivy the net?
[20:26] <eric_3> afroman needs help
[20:26] <afroman> yes I do eric
[20:27] <mdeonte> I just setted up a user on my server /wc 7
[20:27] <eric_3> ubottu : afroman needs help
[20:28] <ubuntu_> somone know of any good repair grub live CD?
[20:28] <genii> afroman: According to the poivy website, use any Linux voce over IP app, just plug into it your SIP settings they give you which works on your Windows Poivy client
[20:28] <soopos> How can you analyse browser's space-memory consumption at any given time?
[20:28] <soopos> * strace -ff google-chrome is not allowing to browse such that I can see the effects of my browsing
[20:28] <g5pw> hi everybody! does anyone know why is grub stuck just after selecting the kernel, waiting for something, for like 2 mins and then boots the kernel...
[20:28] <MASARUwota> soopos: process explorers, i prefer the command line htop myself.
[20:29] <genii> afroman: In fact their link to "using poivy with Linux"  goes to the Linphone website
[20:29] <afroman> genii: I installed poivy on wine. but I can't connect myself online
[20:29] <MASARUwota> afroman: seems like a wine problem then :/
[20:30] <eric_3> I have problems w/ wine as well.
[20:30] <eric_3> Who over sees wine any way?
[20:30] <g5pw> hi everybody! does anyone know why is grub stuck just after selecting the kernel, waiting for something, for like 2 mins and then boots the kernel...
[20:30] <genii> afroman: Install some native Linux VoIP client. Then use the settings they give you which normally you would set the Windows client to, but put the values instead into the Linux client
[20:30] <ardchoille> Nice! there's a bundle kit out now :) http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=578
[20:31] <eric_3> g5pw just wait about a minute or 2 and someone will be with you
[20:31] <g5pw> thank you! :)
[20:31] <eric_3> any time
[20:32] <guntbert> eric_3: please don't make promises you cannot keep
[20:32] <MASARUwota> eric_3: #wine does
[20:32] <g5pw> yeah, np, i'll wait, notify me when you finish :)
[20:33] <eric_3> sorry
[20:33] <afroman> genii: I install ekiga, but it seems to be impossible put other settings
[20:33] <eric_3> MASARUwota: thank you
[20:34] <trime1> hi what about the polish channel ubuntu?
[20:34] <erUSUL> !pl
[20:35] <guntbert> g5pw: please don't wait forever - it is sensible to repeat questions every 10 minutes or so - so that newcomers can see them as well
[20:35] <g5pw> will do! pasting in: hi everybody! does anyone know why is grub stuck just after selecting the kernel, waiting for something, for like 2 mins and then boots the kernel...
[20:35] <trime1> o k but the name what is
[20:35] <eric_3> sorry guntbert
[20:36] <guntbert> eric_3: :-)
[20:36] <trime1> what the name is polish channel
[20:36] <trime1> ?
[20:36] <llutz> !pl
[20:36] <bishop> g5pw whatz your boot order?
[20:36] <trime1> i must give /join !pl??
[20:37] <g5pw> Only ubuntu, got no dual boot...
[20:37] <MASARUwota> trimel: wpisz /join #ubuntu-pl
[20:37] <bishop> ok
[20:37] <shashike> hello  all
[20:37] <shashike> i  have  a very  simple  question
[20:37] <shashike> ubuntu 8.04 vs 9.10
[20:37] <rem__> ..
[20:37] <MASARUwota> shashike: older software, more stable. newer software, more features, less stable
[20:38] <g5pw> bishop: any clues?
[20:38] <shashike> is  9.10  another "vista"??
[20:38] <bishop> not yet
[20:38] <g5pw> bishop: k sorry :)
[20:40] <krzysztof> siema
[20:40] <lgc> I removed and reinstalled skype from medibuntu and it doesn't appear on the menu.
[20:41] <g5pw> lgc: do you use kde or gnome?
[20:41] <marenostrum> shashike: 1- No Ubuntu version is a new some other operating system 2- 8.04 is a LTS edition, means Long Term Support, means much more stable than non-LTSs 3- If you want a new version but want it to be a LTS, wait for 10.04,it will be a LTS as well.
[20:41] <lgc> g5pw, Gnome, of course.
[20:42] <KaffeeJunky123> I've mounted my windows partition using "sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /windows -o silent,umask=0,locale=utf8" but I don't seem to have read/write access to the partition
[20:42] <g5pw> yeah, i'm not quite familiar with medibuntu.. :)
[20:42] <g5pw> anyway, tried to restart?
[20:43] <eric_3> mediubunutu is only repositories so all you have to do is just download the packages
[20:43] <mdeonte> If I have a high bit gpg key, will it take longer to encrypt something
[20:43] <bishop> g5 what happens after restart?
[20:43] <shashike> when  is  the  next  ubuntu  release?
[20:44] <shashike> when is the next ubuntu release?
[20:44] <cwillu_at_work> shashike, april of next year
[20:44] <BobVila> @sashike - April 2010
[20:45] <guntbert> !ot | shashike
[20:45] <eric_3> is there a java channel?
[20:45] <shashike> oh  ,,  i  am  soo sorry
[20:45] <kheera> eric_3: ##java but yo uhave to register your nick first
[20:45] <eric_3> dang
[20:45] <shashike> i  am new and i am totally doin  things topsy turvy
[20:45] <marenostrum> shashike: 10.04 will be the next, means April 2010. 9.10 is the current, released October 2009
[20:45] <shashike> loool
[20:46] <BobVila> !list
[20:46] <BobVila> damned xchat
[20:46] <eric_3> Bobvila should leave
[20:47] <guntbert> g5pw: does that happen with recovery mode too? and with every kernel?
[20:47] <g5pw> yepp, i guess...
[20:47] <Trizicus> how do I adjust the size of the GNOME window frame? It's too big currently (as in too fat)
[20:47] <guntbert> eric_3: no - why do you say that?
[20:47] <sunshinepants> so, i started using privoxy, and every once in a while google results just stop appearing.   after i restart the privoxy service everything is fine.. i'm on the fence about whether it's worthy to be on my system
[20:47] <pasjr> hello
[20:48] <pasjr> I am using Xubuntu 9.04
[20:48] <pasjr> and need help with fan controlls
[20:48] <guntbert> !enter | pasjr
[20:48] <pasjr> sorry
[20:48] <git__> can dreamcast game be played on Ubuntu?
[20:49] <marenostrum> pasjr: what fan controls?
[20:49] <g5pw> guntbert: no, when i start recovery kernel, it boots of but blocks at sda:
[20:50] <pasjr> I would like to be able to turn on/off at will, how ever I have done everything I know and no luck
[20:50] <g5pw> looks like some ata problems
[20:50] <EastDallas> git__: lxdream
[20:50] <jonrob287> my synaptic package manager is not making connection so i cant install a program...
[20:51] <guntbert> g5pw: (I'm only fishing for ideas) - and with older kernels?
[20:51] <EastDallas> jonrob287: What's the error you receive?
[20:52] <g5pw> hmm.. didnt tried that....
[20:52] <pasjr> What is the chance off some one connecting remotely and looking at what I have done to see what I have missed?
[20:52] <jonrob287> Unable to connect to archive.getdeb.net http:
[20:52] <g5pw> anyway it looks like an ata problem, it says something like interrupt lost, bad sector 0, i'll paste my /var/log /messages
[20:53] <joaopinto> jonrob287, that's normal, getdeb archive server is down
[20:53] <guntbert> pasjr: you don't know anyone here - so don't let us on your system :)
[20:53] <guntbert> !pastebin | g5pw
[20:53] <g5pw> yeah, got that, tnx :)
[20:54] <jonrob287> oh okay so when should i try again?
[20:54] <KaffeeJunky123> does wine support read/write operations on a ntfs-3g mounted drive?
[20:54] <KaffeeJunky123> on ubuntu 9.04
[20:54] <pasjr> My system is empty and not a threat if some one can help,  I have done so much to it you could not hurt my system
[20:55] <maarons> KaffeeJunky123: I think it doesn't care about actual file system
[20:55] <iceroot> KaffeeJunky123: sure
[20:55] <bishop> bak again
[20:55] <iceroot> KaffeeJunky123: but that is not part of wine
[20:55] <BluesKaj> why use wine , KaffeeJunky123..look for the ntfs volume in nautilus
[20:55] <LuisGMarine> hello what do I have to do to update a program that I installed in /opt/
[20:55] <KaffeeJunky123> BluesKaj: I'm trying to run the wow launcher from my ntfs drive
[20:55] <iceroot> LuisGMarine: installed without apt-get?
[20:56] <marenostrum> pasjr: If you are NOT a novice user, this may help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=42737
[20:56] <guntbert> pasjr: someone *could* hijack you system to use it as a base for DOS-Attacks, mail-relay, open proxy, ....
[20:56] <LuisGMarine> New version of Songbird came out and the stupid automated update thing wont recognize that there is a new version out
[20:56] <good4thecompany> how do I find out the IP address of a network drive from the command line, before i've mounted it?
[20:56] <KaffeeJunky123> BluesKaj: And it complains about not beeing able to write to the wow folder
[20:56] <iceroot> LuisGMarine: then download the newest version and look at the readme for installing. for the future, always use repos if you can
[20:56] <LuisGMarine> iceroot, yeah just straight up tar -xzvf to the /opt/Songbird folder
[20:56] <LuisGMarine> iceroot, I know but the PPA for songbird is ran by a bot, the 64-bit version of songbird hasn't been able to build in the past 3 months ... so that's why I resort to the source
[20:57] <g5pw> guntbert: i'll go check sth in the bios, write back if problem persists... :) thanks 4 ur time!
[20:57] <iceroot> LuisGMarine: ah ok, goog to know
[20:57] <BluesKaj> copy the wow .exefile into /home/user and let wine launch it for you there, KaffeeJunky123
[20:57] <iceroot> good
[20:57] <pasjr> Thank you will look at it, as for hijack good luck.  This system is so hard to use, you would need to be the Pentagon to use it
[20:57] <EastDallas> jonrob287: It should work fine, even though you get the error.  You just won't have access to getdeb.net's repository.  No big deal, it's just extras.
[20:57] <guntbert> g5pw: no problem here - and Good luck :-)
[20:57] <iceroot> KaffeeJunky123: its no problem to start wow from ntfs-drive. i was doing the some some months ago
[20:57] <koltroll> anyone know of a gui tool for apache?
[20:58] <iceroot> koltroll: what should that tool do?
[20:58] <xover> why is the default window size so large in gnome?
[20:58] <bishop> g5 good luck
[20:58] <koltroll> iceroot, mainly start, stop and restart. beeing able to set up virtual hosts as well would be nice.
[20:58] <pawleeq> hello
[20:58] <iceroot> koltroll: start,stop and restart... use the shell
[20:58] <KaffeeJunky123> iceroot: well the launcher crashes, I'll try to just start the WoW.exe
[20:58] <koltroll> iceroot, don't wanna. that's why I'm asking for a gui tool.
[20:58] <bakarat> dear god, if you're not used to "vi" and you have to use it with a different keymapping, it's seriously headache inducing :|
[20:59] <iceroot> koltroll: on a server, there is no gui :)
[20:59] <koltroll> iceroot, on a workstation, there is one!
[20:59] <iceroot> koltroll: but there is no apache :)
[20:59] <g5pw> thanks! :)
[20:59] <pasjr> Stepping out.
[20:59] <koltroll> iceroot, oh you. every web developer with a soul has a lamp setup.
[21:00] <iceroot> koltroll: so i am sorry, dont know gui tools for starting a daemon
[21:00] <The-Jag> Can anyone help me configuring a pda with ubuntu and virtualbox? I have problem with usb detection it seems
[21:00] <koltroll> iceroot, fair enough
[21:00] <iceroot> koltroll: sure, on a server :)
[21:00] <KaffeeJunky123> iceroot: well Wow.exe does work, but I can't update WoW because I don't have a working account atm :/, and updating my wow files is all I want
[21:00] <iceroot> KaffeeJunky123: for updating you dont need a payed account
[21:01] <iceroot> KaffeeJunky123: imo
[21:01] <KaffeeJunky123> iceroot: yes but only if the launcher works
[21:01] <dremits> hi i made a live usb stick and played around in ubuntu then I restarted and it boots to command prompt with no GUI. Any help?
[21:01] <iceroot> KaffeeJunky123: download the patch from the web instead of using the blizzard updater
[21:01] <pawleeq> I am running 9.10 on older laptop with an integrated Intel sound card. VLC behaves like sound's playing but hw produces no sound at all, could please somebody share a piece of advice? thx:)
[21:01] <KaffeeJunky123> iceroot: good idea, thanks i'll try that
[21:02] <iceroot> KaffeeJunky123: http://wowsource.4players.de/downloadspatches.php  smething like that
[21:02] <CyL> Hi, I have this usb wireless adapter wich has power up to 30dbm but iwconfig wouldn't allow me to set it's power above 20dbm... is there anything i can do?
[21:02] <good4thecompany> how can i find the IP address of a network drive in the terminal if i just have the url to the drive (like this //hs-dhglebf/share/)
[21:03] <sarge1221> hi i was wondering if anyone would be willing to offer some troubleshooting help with a problem i'm having?
[21:03] <pawleeq> I have latest alsa (1.0.22), pulseaudio and system up to date
[21:03] <iceroot> good4thecompany: nslookup hs-dhglebf
[21:03] <genii> good4thecompany: ping hs-dhglebf
[21:03] <iceroot> good4thecompany: or use ping
[21:03] <good4thecompany> thank you very much
[21:04] <marenostrum> pawleeq: Didyou try to change / make experiments with various sound control settins by right clicking the sounnd control button on upper left?
[21:04] <CyL> Hi, I have this usb wireless adapter wich has power up to 30dbm but iwconfig wouldn't allow me to set it's power above 20dbm... is there anything i can do?
[21:05] <pawleeq> marenostrum, well, when I start gnome-volume-manager it does not list any hardware
[21:05] <pawleeq> marenostrum, but it lists "playing" apps
[21:05] <pawleeq> marenostrum, because it rather junk laptop, I run flosbox :)
[21:06] <micahf> hi, could someone help me find a good netbook for my brother?
[21:06] <micahf> i've heard the MSI Wind has some problems under ubuntu and suse
[21:06] <g5pw> hey! things with bios didn't work up...
[21:06] <g5pw> pasted the messages log
[21:07] <mkquist> asus
[21:07] <micahf> i recommended a horrible lenovo idea pad
[21:07] <mkquist> ?
[21:07] <micahf> bad idea!
[21:07] <micahf> the eeepc?
[21:07] <rubens_> si ese no esta mal
[21:07] <g5pw> the point is: from the logs i see there's a pioneer drive, but that was in the moment of install, and now i changed it!
[21:07] <marenostrum> pawleeq:for device isnt there anything in dropdown menu? Didyou try to learn the model of yor soundcard and search for Ubuntu/Linux drivers of it?
[21:08] <rubens_> y ademas lo tienes a buen precio en contropc 260€
[21:08] <Perkabalo> Anybody know if it's possible to use stable rtorrent with color patch (0.8.2?
[21:08] <hellues> how can i set keyboard layout in terminal
[21:08] <rubens_> nadie que hable español?
[21:08] <EliasAmaral> hellues, sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[21:08] <EliasAmaral> rubens_, #ubuntu-es ?
[21:09] <guntbert> !es | rubens_
[21:09] <bishop> g5 can u afford to reinstall/ yeah i know...
[21:10] <guntbert> g5pw: where did you paste the logs?
[21:10] <g5pw> on paste.ubuntu.com
[21:10] <pawleeq> marenostrum, well, it worked in 9.04...
[21:10] <g5pw> bishop: well, i could... but i'd like to keep it as my last chance
[21:11] <guntbert> bishop: don't advice reinstalling "as first measure"
[21:11] <bishop> gottcha
[21:11] <shashike_> hi  all
[21:11] <guntbert> g5pw: care to tell us the url? :-)
[21:11] <shashike_> does  updating  ubuntu make  it  slower? and unstable??
[21:11] <marenostrum> pawleeq: If your machine iscapable to run live cd, run 9.04 live cd and look for settings,drivers etc.there.
[21:11] <lgc> I can't install Googleearth or Skype even with the Medibuntu repository enabled. Hint?
[21:12] <g5pw> sorry (noob :-)
[21:12] <Trizicus> where are the compiz keys for gconf located? I don't see them in ~/.gconf/apps/compiz
[21:12] <bishop> bbak
[21:12] <wuzle> hello, I am having trouble with wicd in karmic. It's deamon does not start on boot, but starts fine later when I run '/etc/init.d/wicd start' after boot. I was asking on the wicd irc and they said I need to make sure dbus is started first. I tried to add dbus to the startup (update-rc.d), but this doesn't seam to work. Any ideas?
[21:12] <lgc> !googleearth
[21:12] <soreau> Trizicus: You should use ccsm to configure compiz
[21:13] <hellues> i dont know my keyboard model
[21:13] <g5pw> http://paste.ubuntu.com/344300/
[21:13] <CVirus> Guys after an upgrade from Jaunty to karmic my mouse left click stopped working and my touchpad clicks as well ... any clue ?
[21:13] <pawleeq> marenostrum, probably will give it a try the driver should be in kernel since 2.5.11
[21:13] <Trizicus> soreau: There is a key that I need to remove and I cannot find it in /apps/compiz because /apps/compiz does not exist
[21:13] <[Spooky]> lgc: Have you tried the static files for Skype?
[21:13] <soreau> Trizicus: You should use ccsm to configure compiz
[21:13] <marenostrum> shashike_: Updating is fine. No problem. Its better.
[21:13] <g5pw> guntbert: url above
[21:13] <ScoobyDoo> OK, So the text im trying to find will be diffrent from time to time, But its place in the .html file is always the same, "</dt> <dd>Text I Want</dd>" Is it possible to grab any text thats inside those html tags?
[21:13] <lgc> [Spooky], how so?
[21:14] <benc1> I have gui issues of eclipse under karmic. any ideas?
[21:14] <marenostrum> pawleeq: Goog luck!
[21:14] <Trizicus> soreau: Like I said there is a key that I need to remove and CCSM/gconf-editor are not allowing me to alter the setting
[21:14] <soreau> Trizicus: What setting
[21:14] <[Spooky]> lgc: I use them without any troubles...
[21:14] <ScoobyDoo> !w3m
[21:14] <Trizicus> soreau: <super> opening up menu (unsetting it in gconf doesn't work) and CCSM doesn't have a setting for this
[21:15] <soreau> Trizicus: Pressing Super alone opens what menu?
[21:15] <Trizicus> soreau: yes
[21:15] <kc8jpz> 9.10 upgrade on laptop and mouse pad doesn't work..any ideas?
[21:16] <hellues> arter there any command to set keyboard to turkish q
[21:16] <guntbert> g5pw: I'd agree with your previous fear: some HD trouble ahead (you could look into SMART output..) - because 2 minutes mostly waiting - its odd
[21:16] <soreau> Trizicus: That doesnt make sense.. maybe you misread the inquiry?
[21:16] <Trizicus> soreau: Nope
[21:17] <g5pw> ok i'll just try to swap for another :) the strange thing is, that some days ago i installed windows and it went trough with no problems, and no lag...
[21:17] <soreau> Trizicus: So super opens a yes menu.. that does not make sense
[21:17] <Trizicus> soreau: It opens the main window
[21:18] <koltroll> is it possible to open a file/program as su right from nautilus? By holding some key when opening it perhaps?
[21:18] <soreau> Trizicus: What main window?
[21:18] <Trizicus> soreau: Nevermind it's fixed now
[21:18] <koltroll> and then beeing prompted for password
[21:18] <CVirus> Guys after an upgrade from Jaunty to karmic my mouse left click stopped working and my touchpad clicks as well ... any clue ?
[21:18] <Trizicus> soreau: Wasn't allowing me to disable in CCSM but now I can
[21:18] <hellues> hey
[21:18] <hellues> i need to set my keyboard turkish q
[21:18] <lgc> [Spooky], I wonder why they don't seem to appear on the list.
[21:18] <hellues> dpkg-reconfigure console doesnt work
[21:19] <Slart> koltroll: nope.. not on a default install.. there might be some addons/scripts for nautilus that does it though
[21:19] <soreau> Trizicus: Like I said, use ccsm to configure compiz
[21:19] <lgc> [Spooky], how did you install Skype?
[21:19] <Slart> koltroll: I think I have something that gives me a right-click menu option for "open as administrator"
[21:19] <Trizicus> soreau: Well my window frames are too fate how can I shorten them in CCSM?
[21:19] <Trizicus> soreau: fat*
[21:19] <koltroll> Slart, that's excactly what I'm after
[21:20] <[Spooky]> lgc: Wait a second...
[21:20] <lexsoOr> !urbanterror
[21:20] <Slart> !info nautilus-gksu | koltroll
[21:20] <soreau> Trizicus: The window borders are controlled by the compiz decorator and the theme set for it
[21:20] <hellues> answer me pls
[21:20] <Trizicus> soreau: Well they're all fat for me how can i shorten?
[21:20] <koltroll> ubottu, thanks alot. installed it
[21:21] <soreau> Trizicus: Depends on which decorator youre using
[21:21] <[Spooky]> lgc: Try: http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-beta-static
[21:22] <zopiac> I'm trying to compile the developer version of gimp, 2.7, but I need babl version 0.1.0 However, I cannot find anything over version 0.0.22 of libbabl :\ can anyone help?
[21:22] <lgc> [Spooky], so you went to the original sources and installed them in both cases?
[21:22] <guntbert> hellues: system/preferences/keyboard, tab layout,...
[21:22] <Trizicus> soreau: Also some of my key combinations do not work initially after setting them. Do I need to logout and back in for them to take effect or is there another problem?
[21:23] <soreau> Trizicus: Perhaps you have a permissions issue. Hopefully you havent run ccsm as root or with sudo
[21:23] <[Spooky]> lgc: Yes with skype i did... I dont use Google Earth...
[21:23] <Trizicus> soreau: nope
[21:23] <ilmenite> hi, is it possible to force my core 2 duo processor to be at 800Ghz rather than 2.00Ghz? when i click on the scaling applet, the lease is 2Ghz, is it possible to bring it further down to 800Ghz?
[21:24] <cptblood> 800GHz? that's some serious overclocking :P
[21:24] <lexsoOr> ilmenite: downclock it in the bios
[21:24] <soreau> Trizicus: Well maybe we can better assist you in #compiz
[21:24] <ilmenite> thanks lexsoOr
[21:25] <nightfrog> ilmenite: why have a computer that fast if your just going to underclock it?
[21:25] <lgc> [Spooky], with the static version you don't need skytools, python-skype or skysentials (the only skype entries on the repo), I gather.
[21:26] <[Spooky]> lgc: You just use the static package...
[21:26] <ilmenite> nightfrog, no actually i leave my machine all night long on downloading but i cant run it at 2 Ghz, lesser, the better
[21:26] <ilmenite> just at night
[21:27] <lgc> [Spooky], the package you pointed to is a .tar.bz2 one. Will extracting do the trick?
[21:27] <away> how to install java on sidux please help
[21:27] <nightfrog> ilmenite: ah
[21:27] <tibrox> I can't get picasa (with wine) running on karmic.  I miss the one touch photo retouching ability of picasa.  Can anyone recommend a program that can retouch a photo with a single click?
[21:27] <`mOOse`> guys I'm trying to get amorak to "see" my music folder on my XP partition (C:)...C is mounted but when I ask Amorak to scan the folder it looks like it starts for about .5 second then stops leaving me with no database....any ideas?
[21:28] <MASARUwota> away: go to #debian or #linux instead.
[21:28] <unop> away, join the #sidux or #debian channels, this here is #ubuntu
[21:28] <[Spooky]> lgc: Yes... You are a beginner with Ubuntu?
[21:28] <tibrox> `mOOse`, have you configured your db correctly?
[21:29] <lgc> [Spooky], no, actually. But I don't want it installed in the Chromium download directory. I wonder why it's no .deb.
[21:29] <`mOOse`> iI just installed amorak - is there a trick to that? The New User Wizard just asks where my music files are and I point it to C:\Music with the result above
[21:29] <EliasAmaral> lgc, there is a chromium  in a ppa
[21:29] <`mOOse`> I do that through the GUI...
[21:29] <tibrox> `mOOse`, are you using amarok on windows?
[21:30] <lgc> EliasAmaral, huh?
[21:30] <EliasAmaral> lgc, it's called chromium-daily, it's updated daily
[21:30] <`mOOse`> in gnome in ubuntu tibrox
[21:30] <[Spooky]> lgc: This is no installer... Its just packed ready for you to use...
[21:30] <EliasAmaral> lgc, you weren't saying that there is no google chromium in the repos?
[21:30] <tibrox> right.  C:\music threw me a bit there, `mOOse`
[21:30] <lgc> EliasAmaral, not at all.
[21:30] <EliasAmaral> erm.
 [Spooky], no, actually. But I don't want it installed in the Chromium download directory. / I wonder why it's no .deb. /
[21:31] <EliasAmaral> but ko =)
[21:31] <`mOOse`> well it's all gui menu driven tibrox...no cli
[21:31] <`mOOse`> that's why I'm stumped
[21:31] <`mOOse`> seems as though live installs of ubuntu have peculiarities with filesystems
[21:31] <tibrox> `mOOse`, i use amarok too, with no problem setting my music dir :S
[21:32] <lexsoOr> !grub
[21:32] <lgc> [Spooky], hmmm...so it won't give me a menu entry and it won't install it its own cozy niche.
[21:32] <lexsoOr> !grub2
[21:32] <`mOOse`> I'm running a persistent install on a flashdrive and ubuntu wants to chuck all kinds of stuff onto my C + D drives (like trashcan stuff for instance)
[21:32] <tibrox> oic
[21:33] <`mOOse`> ok, so I'll mess around with it and see if it's just an anomoly
[21:33] <lgc> EliasAmaral, I'm talking about Skype, not Chromium.
[21:33] <`mOOse`> it's the only pgm I'm having trouble with like this
[21:33] <quaglia77> hi
[21:33] <`mOOse`> in fact, I think I've been pretty lucky all around so far (knock on wood)
[21:33] <quaglia77> !list
[21:33] <EliasAmaral> lgc, oh. right
[21:35] <[Spooky]> lgc: Nope..
[21:35] <g5pw> hi everybody, again :) anyone know why ubuntu doesn't see my parallel port?
[21:36] <Exile> hey guys, I had to reinstall grub and now I cant access my windows partition in ubuntu? anyone have any ideas how I might fix this?
[21:36] <pawleeq> how can I make local repository on removable device?
[21:36] <Exile> it dual boots fine
[21:36] <guntbert> pawleeq: look for apt-mirror
[21:36] <snarkster> Ahhhh help me evolution has failed me!!! I cant send email to either my hotmail pop or my qwest pop but kmail can send to both and its configured exactly like evolution
[21:36] <pawleeq> guntbert, thx
[21:36] <`mOOse`> tibrox:  - seems it's scanning now
[21:36] <sebsebseb> Exile: Which version of Windows?
[21:36] <`mOOse`> heh - I see what was happening
[21:36] <tibrox> woohoo :)
[21:37] <tibrox> sometimes one needs a place to vent
[21:37] <`mOOse`> it defaults to the /ubuntu/Music folder and you have to UNCLICK the folder checkbox, then click the correct location....I didn't unclick it
[21:37] <`mOOse`> yea
[21:37] <Exile> windows 7
[21:37] <sebsebseb> Exile: As long as Windows has shut down NTFS properly since Ubuntu 7.10 (October 2007)  Ubuntu should be able to read and write to it no problem
[21:37] <Exile> ok its windows 7
[21:38] <Exile> is there any issues you know of?
[21:38] <Pholious> hey guys... I have previously set up a dual boot into /boot/grub/grub.conf, but now I want to edit it and the file seems to be completely gone... it's not in /etc/ either... any ideas? (the dual boot does work properly, so it has to be somewhere...)
[21:38] <sebsebseb> Exile: well not 100% sure if what I just put is true for Vista version 2 (Windows 7), but I assume it is
[21:38] <Exile> hehe
[21:38] <DjAngo23> Hello everyone !
[21:38] <Exile> ok
[21:39] <holmser> Pholious, you using 9.10?
[21:39] <lexsoOr> !who
[21:39] <Pholious> holmser, yeah
[21:39] <holmser> they changed it
[21:39] <Pholious> oh :S
[21:39] <holmser> there is a simple command to detect other os... lemme find it
[21:39] <Pholious> lol where did they hide it? :D
[21:39] <guntbert> !grub2 | Pholious
[21:39] <CVirus> Guys after an upgrade from Jaunty to karmic my mouse left click stopped working and my touchpad clicks as well ... any clue ?
[21:39] <kc8jpz> can someone help with completely formatting a hard drive and installing ubuntu? It has 9.10 and I want to go back to 9.04
[21:40] <Pholious> I did manually change it before on 9.10 I think... the file is missing now though lol
[21:40] <g5pw> guntbert: completed smart tests without errors...
[21:40] <sebsebseb> CVirus: certain hardware that worked fine in 9.04, won't in 9.10
[21:40] <holmser> yeah... grub is now grub2
[21:40] <lexsoOr> !touchscreen
[21:40] <sebsebseb> !touchpad | CVirus
[21:40] <lexsoOr> !touchscreens
[21:40] <holmser> here you are Pholious: http://linuxers.org/howto/how-configure-grub2-ubuntu-910
[21:40] <sebsebseb> CVirus: might be worth trying your touch pad on a clean install of 9.10, or at least the Live CD
[21:40] <Pholious> ahhh yeah!
[21:41] <Pholious> thanks a lot holmser ! :)
[21:41] <holmser> np
[21:41] <holmser> I just went through the same thing
[21:41] <DjAngo23> Hey guys, i'm at my parents place, and they internet is very slow on only my Ubuntu laptop. I am connected via Wireless, and a other laptop next to me has windows, and connects to the same router, and that one has fast internet. I tried with a cable, nothing changes. It loads the site, but waits for 2min, and suddenly downloads certain amount of the page.
[21:41] <DjAngo23> Any ideas ?
[21:41] <Pholious> haha yeah, was driving me nuts
[21:41] <guntbert> g5pw: good for you :) - though that leaves us still without any idea what might be happening
[21:42] <homezz> when I go to >places>connect to server, and I type the necessay info to connect, the file that saved that information where is it located and name of it?
[21:42] <holmser> actually Pholious, thats not the one I read...
[21:42] <holmser> one sec
[21:42] <g5pw> hmm... there was another issue which may be connected: i swapped network card, but it was not detected by ubuntu...
[21:43] <guntbert> g5pw: Good luck :-) here its past bedtime already :)
[21:43] <Exile> ok its there
[21:43] <Exile> sebsebseb its fine
[21:43] <g5pw> ok:) good night then! :) tnx again
[21:43] <Exile> its just it doest come up in places anymore
[21:44] <sebsebseb> Exile: oh
[21:44] <Exile> but comes up in /
[21:44] <Exile> ?
[21:44] <dan2> hey guys I'm trying to install a new kernel built with make-kpkg and I'm getting an error in regards to postinit with nvidia
[21:44] <Exile> in a folder called windows
[21:44] <sebsebseb> Exile: what does?
[21:44] <Pholious> holmser, ok :)
[21:44] <ivanoats> i have been trying man aptitude but I can't seem to find an answer. Is there a way to show just the out of date packages (from the command line) ?
[21:44] <Exile> my windows partition
[21:44] <sebsebseb> Exile: oh right ok
[21:45] <sebsebseb> Exile: thought for a second or so the other guy...  ,but no.  ok uhmm maybe it's not meant to be under places anymore
[21:45] <homezz> when I go to >places>connect to server, and I type the necessay info to connect, the file that saved that information where is it located and name of it?
[21:45] <sebsebseb> Exile: should be able to get into it from  /mnt or /media though,  and  from computer
[21:45] <DjAngo23> Hey guys, i'm at my parents place, and they internet is very slow on only my Ubuntu laptop. I am connected via Wireless, and a other laptop next to me has windows, and connects to the same router, and that one has fast internet. I tried with a cable, nothing changes. It loads the site, but waits for 2min, and suddenly downloads certain amount of the page. Any ideas ?
[21:45] <Exile> nope not in media
[21:45] <Exile> at all
[21:45] <Exile> werid
[21:45] <sebsebseb> Exile: ok, but is it in /mnt ?
[21:46] <Exile> unless its in the grub folder
[21:46] <Exile> no
[21:46] <Pholious> holmser, I just editted the /boot/grub/menu.lst, does the trick ;)
[21:46] <sebsebseb> DjAngo23: hmm not sure, but maybe the support you have in Ubuntu, for that particular device, isn't really good enough
[21:47] <sebsebseb> Exile: ok how are you getting in to it?
[21:47] <Pholious> at least, gonna reboot and see if it did :) cheers for help!
[21:47] <Exile> the only way to access it is /windows
[21:47] <Exile> no password
[21:47] <Exile> or anything
[21:47] <DjAngo23> sebsebseb: You mean the livebox for example ?
[21:47] <sebsebseb> Exile: /windows hmm
[21:47] <lexsoOr> !who
[21:47] <ubuntu_mad> an someone help me with this http://pastebin.com/d300ab033
[21:47] <pawleeq> guntbert, well apt-mirror wants to download 51GB... I need just ceartain packages and their dependencies
[21:47] <DjAngo23> sebsebseb: I have more than one router, and it is doing that on all of them.
[21:47] <sebsebseb> DjAngo23: I mean wireless support isn't exactly great at this time when it comes to Desktop Linux, because of lack of manufacture support
[21:47] <Exile> sebsebseb: Nautilus
[21:48] <Exile> is what I am using
[21:48] <sebsebseb> Exile: ok well don't think it's meant to make a /windows really
[21:48] <jongbergs> !postfix
[21:48] <DjAngo23> sebsebseb: I'm talking about a laptop, and it is actually working at home.
[21:48] <Exile> sebsebseb: should I worry or should I leave it?
[21:48] <sebsebseb> Exile: also I think really it's meant to ask for your password when you try and enter the Windows partition
[21:48] <jongbergs> !mta
[21:49] <Travis-43> I can't get nvidia-settings to edit my xorg.conf file -- it crashes with a seg fault and "failed to parse xorg.conf" message. I've tried deleting my xorg.conf and using nvidia-xconfig but it still fails. any ideas?
[21:49] <sebsebseb> DjAngo23: well they have different hardware from what you have
[21:49] <Exile> sebsebseb: I'm not to fussed about linux being able to access windows without a pass
[21:49] <jongbergs> !mda
[21:49] <Exile> sebsebseb: I would be the other way round tho
[21:49] <sebsebseb> Exile: it's probably ok, and there might be something relivant in the 9.10 release notes
[21:49] <holmser> nice Pholious.... there was some script that just configured it automatically for me
[21:49] <homezz> I am trying to connect to a NTFS computer using ubuntu on another computer what is the best way to go about doint it
[21:49] <Exile> sebsebseb: I would be the other way round tho
[21:49] <sebsebseb> !9.10 | Exile
[21:50] <sebsebseb> Exile: same here really I guess, and this is a good idea don't let Windows have access to Linux partitions :)
[21:50] <jongbergs> !mailserver
[21:50] <theshadow> How can I disable openvpn from auto starting at boot, w/out removing it from /etc/init.d I just want to be able to enable and disable it as I need it.
[21:50] <sebsebseb> homezz: a NTFS computer hmm?  you mean with Windows share files or what?
[21:51] <herdivet> homezzz - what version of windows is on the box?
[21:51] <blakkheim> theshadow: aptitude install rcconf
[21:51] <DjAngo23> sebsebseb: It is actually also not working with the ethernet cable either.
[21:51] <sebsebseb> DjAngo23: ok well I don't know
[21:52] <homezz> sebsebseb< yes its win7
[21:52] <sebsebseb> !samba | homezz
[21:52] <DjAngo23> sebsebseb: Thanks.
[21:52] <DjAngo23> Hey guys, i'm at my parents place, and they internet is very slow on only my Ubuntu laptop. I am connected via Wireless, and a other laptop next to me has windows, and connects to the same router, and that one has fast internet. I tried with a cable, nothing changes. It loads the site, but waits for 2min, and suddenly downloads certain amount of the page. Any ideas ? gMail asks even to load the HTML version instead...
[21:53] <Baxnie> i've installed ubuntu 9.10 now, from windows using wubi. i reboot and completed the installation. but when i'm going to start linux, it stops at grub and i dont know how to boot linux
[21:53] <blakkheim> Baxnie: try a real install instead of wubi
[21:53] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: ok well just remove Wubi then, real partitions are better in the long run :)
[21:53] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: also Wubi can go odd on people
[21:54] <Baxnie> i tried "linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-15-generic
[21:54] <Asflum> hola
[21:54] <Asflum> hay alguien
[21:54] <Asflum> aqui
[21:54] <Baxnie> but i get 'file not found'
[21:54] <sebsebseb> !es | Asflum
[21:54] <Baxnie> is it in a different version?
[21:54] <zopiac> I'm trying to compile the developer version of gimp, 2.7, but I need babl version 0.1.0 However, I cannot find anything over version 0.0.22 of libbabl :\ can anyone help?
[21:54] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: also more people know how to get hold of data and such, from real partitions, rather than a Wubi install
[21:55] <Baxnie> how i install ubuntu without wubi?
[21:55] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: first remove Wubi
[21:55] <Baxnie> thats not an installation
[21:55] <Baxnie> just an .exe
[21:55] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: you also need to download the Live CD  ISO  which is also used for install
[21:55] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: you can remove Wubi like a normal Windows program
[21:55] <Baxnie> i need burn the data that i downloaded to a cd?
[21:56] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: the contents of the ISO, but first it's a good idea to check your ISO to make sure you have a good one
[21:56] <karmel> hi... anybody know - how to create grahps for data collected by collectd?
[21:56] <Asflum> hola
[21:56] <Asflum> alguien
[21:56] <Asflum> habla
[21:56] <sebsebseb> !es | Asflum
[21:56] <sebsebseb> !pt
[21:56] <Asflum> español
[21:56] <FloodBot4> Asflum: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:57] <Asflum> please
[21:57] <Asflum> alguien
[21:57] <Asflum> asd
[21:57] <Asflum> asda
[21:57] <Asflum> s
[21:57] <FloodBot4> Asflum: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:57] <Asflum> ad
[21:57] <Asflum> d
[21:57] <sebsebseb> Asflum: #ubuntu-es
[21:57] <rd1381> why i cant add tags to my files in dolphin in ubutnu ??
[21:57] <sebsebseb> rd1381: try #kubuntu since Dolphin is a KDE app
[21:57] <Guest44911> jch-65@hotmail.fr
[21:57] <Baxnie> [sebsebseb]: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
[21:58] <rd1381> i thuought i could use kde apps in gnome
[21:58] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: yes
[21:58] <Baxnie> i downloaded it here
[21:58] <Baxnie> 'Begin download' etc
[21:58] <sebsebseb> yep
[21:58] <Baxnie> clicked there and downloaded
[21:58] <Baxnie> 3 hours ago
[21:58] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: ok so you already have an ISO for Ubuntu?
[21:58] <Baxnie> yes
[21:58] <rd1381> and i just have ubuntu
[21:58] <sebsebseb> rd1381: yes you can
[21:58] <Baxnie> i just cant boot linux
[21:58] <sebsebseb> rd1381: ,but not that many Gnome users use Dolphin, hence why I suggest the other channel
[21:58] <rd1381> i can what?
[21:59] <rd1381> oh
[21:59] <rd1381> sry
[21:59] <Baxnie> i get into grub's prompt and don't know what to do
[21:59] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: right, but that's after you installed it using Wubi?
[21:59] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: you were in Windows put your CD in and used Wubi to install?
[21:59] <Baxnie> yes
[21:59] <airtonix> !enter | rd1381
[21:59] <Baxnie> i have no cd
[22:00] <Baxnie> i downloaded that iso, got the wubi from this iso
[22:00] <Baxnie> and runned it
[22:00] <airtonix> ...
[22:00] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: oh ok, well there is a much easier way to get the Wubi installer
[22:00] <Baxnie> installed, restart pc, gone into ubuntu, finished the installation, reboot, than i stay with grub
[22:00] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: however you got the ISO ok good,  you need to burn the contents to a CD, so you can install a proper install,  but before you do that, you should remove Wubi
[22:01] <Baxnie> i dont have a cd
[22:01] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: hmm
[22:01] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: what about a data DVD?
[22:01] <Baxnie> no cd option for me
[22:01] <Baxnie> or dvd
[22:01] <blakkheim> Baxnie: usb flash drive?
[22:01] <Baxnie> bluray
[22:01] <Baxnie> [nohup]: nothing here ;/
[22:01] <Natherul> is there any way to merge 2 partitions in ubuntu?
[22:02] <blakkheim> Natherul: gparted from livecd/usb
[22:02] <sebsebseb> hmm  I don't have a bluray, plus it would be a bit of a waste of a blueray disc, but I guess you could burn the ISO contents to a blueray disc, and then boot the computer from that,  or maybe not
[22:02] <Baxnie> NOO
[22:02] <Baxnie> i dont have cds
[22:02] <Natherul> so it must be booted on the cd?
[22:02] <alinuxfan> Natherul, is there something on both partitions?
[22:02] <blakkheim> Baxnie: answer me
[22:02] <Baxnie> [blakkheim]: i dont have
[22:02] <Natherul> well there is on 1 of em as thats my linux operating system
[22:02] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: this is how to install Ubuntu  the easy and good way, from a CD or DVD
[22:02] <Baxnie> anything outside pc
[22:03] <blakkheim> Baxnie: if you dont have a cd or dvd or usb drive you don't have many options i'm afraid
[22:03] <Deathvalley122> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/karmic-getdeb/Release
[22:03] <Deathvalley122>  
[22:03] <Deathvalley122> W: Failed to fetch http://archive.getdeb.net/ubuntu/dists/karmic-getdeb/apps/binary-i386/Packages.gz  Unable to connect to archive.getdeb.net http:
[22:03] <Deathvalley122> o.o
[22:03] <FloodBot4> Deathvalley122: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:03] <alinuxfan> Natherul, as long as nothing is on the 2nd, boot from a cd and go to gparted
[22:03] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: You can also install from a USB Flash stick if you have one big enough and that, but those can be a bit difficult to make or something,   Plus there's that netinstall which isn't really for new users.
[22:03] <Baxnie> i cant move the file outside my HD
[22:03] <Baxnie> i installed it right
[22:04] <Baxnie> no problems with that
[22:04] <Travis-42> I plug my laptop into a docking station with an external monitor... how can I get that external monitor to display the same info as the main monitor (using nvidia)
[22:04] <sebsebseb> !install | Baxnie
[22:04] <Baxnie> but i cant boot it from grub
[22:04] <R3cursive> Can I upgrade straight from hardy to karmic?
[22:04] <epinky> Baxnie: afaik, Blueray Drives can burn and boot CD's and DVD's
[22:04] <sebsebseb> R3cursive: no, but if you wait untill April, untill 10.04, you can upgrade directly to that one
[22:04] <R3cursive> OK
[22:04] <R3cursive> Cool
[22:04] <Baxnie> linux /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.31-15-generic (i get 'file not found')
[22:04] <Baxnie> i need help with this
[22:04] <Baxnie> boot linux from grub
[22:04] <sebsebseb> R3cursive: probably wont' get Grub 2 on upgrade, and I guess you won't get the Ext4 file system on upgrade, but you don't really need those anyway
[22:05] <Baxnie> i said i installed it
[22:05] <blakkheim> Baxnie: wubi does not use grub
[22:05] <Baxnie> so why i get a grub prompt?
[22:05] <basicxman> Anybody know when 10.04 beta starts?
[22:05] <sebsebseb> blackgraz: well  it does something to the windows boot loader, so it boots Grub
[22:05] <blakkheim> Baxnie: it adds an entry to the windows bootloader
[22:05] <lexsoOr> basiicxman: january
[22:05] <sebsebseb> !lucid | basicxman
[22:05] <basicxman> Sweet
[22:05] <sebsebseb> lexsoOr: no it's not
[22:05] <IdleOne> basicxman: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/LucidLynxSchedule
[22:05] <Hilikus> how can i automatically login to a user and start X without using a login manager?
[22:06] <basicxman> IdleOne: Thank you, I was looking for that in my bookmarks.
[22:06] <sebsebseb> basicxman: yeah or just go on that link,  altough that link is really off topic for in here
[22:06] <blakkheim> Hilikus: mingetty or some such things in inittab
[22:06] <_CommandeR_> anyone tried running teamspeak3 on ubuntu ? /both client and server?
[22:06] <lexsoOr> sebsebseb: sorry I messed that up with the alpha 2
[22:06] <ubuntu_mad> Hola Asflum
[22:06] <Baxnie> [blakkheim]: http://members.iinet.net.au/~herman546/p15/fig2grub.gif
[22:06] <sebsebseb> lexsoOr: ok
[22:06] <Baxnie> my version is 1.92
[22:07] <Baxnie> i need boot linux from that
[22:07] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: don't use Wubi
[22:07] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: no CD's and no DVD's ok
[22:07] <Baxnie> FORGET WUBI
[22:07] <Baxnie> i just told u how i installed linux
[22:07] <blakkheim> Baxnie: yeah you did.. with wubi
[22:08] <Hail_Spacecake> is there a way to make fcron not execute a job at all if the system is down at the time it's supposed to run?
[22:08] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: you need to make "real partitions" on your hard disk,  for a proper install of Ubuntu
[22:08] <Hail_Spacecake> I'm trying to set up an alarm clock script and if the system isn't on at 7:30 or whenever I don't need it to run when it is on
[22:08] <sebsebseb> Baxnie: Wubi does not do that for you,  a Wubi install that works can be converted to real partitions though
[22:08] <Baxnie> ok thank you
[22:09] <sebsebseb> uh I wasn't done,  I was going to suggest a virtual machine inside Windows, untill he had CD's or DVD's hmm
[22:09] <ago_> hello
[22:10] <Alacard> quick question:
[22:10] <Alacard> If I reinstall Ubuntu 8.04 R3 on one physical drive then use another physical drive as a mount point for my /home directory, will I lose all the data on the 2nd physical drive that will become my /home directory?
[22:10] <ivanoats> is there a simple command line command to show which packages are out of date? especially in regards to security?
[22:11] <Deathvalley122> why is getdeb.net down?
[22:11] <blakkheim> ivanoats: aptitude update; aptitude full-upgrade
[22:11] <sebsebseb> Alacard: well yeah maybe, but you can move your existing /home into a seperate partition
[22:11] <sebsebseb> Alacard: if you delete a partition with data on it,  the partition will go, but there are ways to recover data
[22:11] <ivanoats> blakkheim: thanks, but i want to see what's being upgraded before i do it
[22:11] <quaglia77> hi
[22:11] <sebsebseb> !home | Alacard
[22:11] <blakkheim> ivanoats: it will ask you to confirm before it upgrades
[22:11] <Alacard> thank you
[22:12] <sebsebseb> Alacard: I have never set up a seperate /home after install, seems a bit of a procedure as well
[22:12] <quaglia77> !list
[22:12] <epinky> !security | ivanoats
[22:12] <sebsebseb> Alacard: aparantly it's not that difficult, but even so,  I would do seperate /home on a new install personalley
[22:12] <Deathvalley122> !ping getdeb.net
[22:12] <Alacard> sebsebseb, I agree
[22:13] <sebsebseb> Alacard: you could turn your current Ubuntu install into a data partition, delete everything from it except your data
[22:13] <Alacard> that's a great idea
[22:14] <sebsebseb> Alacard: which versin of Ubuntu?
[22:15] <Alacard> I currently have 9.10 but I would like to back it down to 8.04 R3 for various reasons.... Ext4 is my 2nd problem there :(
[22:15] <sebsebseb> Alacard: oh your having Ext4 issues hmm
[22:15] <sebsebseb> Alacard: what kind of stuff?
[22:15] <joaopinto> Deathvalley122, server problems
[22:15] <calebgamb> I need help to install ubuntu :3
[22:16] <calebgamb> Walk me through please
[22:16] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: uhmm ok
[22:16] <Alacard> no problems with Ext4, I like it but 8.04.3 doesn't support it out of the box as I understand it
[22:16] <sebsebseb> first you need the CD
[22:16] <calebgamb> I have that
[22:16] <sebsebseb> Alacard: oh right yeah
[22:16] <Deathvalley122> I guessed joaopinto
[22:16] <sebsebseb> Alacard: ok what's up with 9.10?
[22:16] <sebsebseb> Alacard: If you want to go back to a previous release 9.04 :)
[22:16] <Deathvalley122> nice way to try to update things :(
[22:17] <calebgamb> sebsebseb: Now what? I got the cd >.>
[22:17] <Alacard> I'm a fan of LTS for production enviroments
[22:17] <sebsebseb> cellofellow: if you still have the ISO, you can check it to, make sure you have a good download
[22:17] <Alacard> honestly, a non-LTS become a production machine :(
[22:17] <sebsebseb> Alacard: oh production hmm, what kind of stuff are you doing then?
[22:17] <Alacard> mostly data backups, virtual machines & general IT stuff
[22:17] <sebsebseb> Alacard: I don't know if you reolize it or not, but  10.04 released at the end of April is the next LTS
[22:17] <sebsebseb> Alacard: ah ha I see, so you got important data
[22:17] <sebsebseb> ?
[22:18] <Alacard> well, some would say it's important
[22:18] <sebsebseb> Alacard: ok yeah Ext4 might still be a bit dodgy really for that kind of stuff
[22:18] <sebsebseb> Alacard: ,but what problems did you get with Ext4?
[22:18] <Alacard> no issues whatsoever with Ext4, but it is not natively supported on 8.04 LTS
[22:18] <Deathvalley122> if 9.10 is bad I don't wanna know what 10.04 is gonna be like
[22:18] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: stay here, plus as you can probably see I am also trying to help Alacard
[22:19] <sebsebseb> !pm > calebgamb
[22:19] <sebsebseb> Deathvalley122: 9.10 is bad for some people, but a lot of people it's fine
[22:19] <calebgamb> Ok it's just I am an ubuntu n00n
[22:19] <calebgamb> Noob*
[22:19] <dolphinling_> Hey, I just updated a system I hadn't used in a while from 9.04 to 9.10, and it appears that something on the boot partition got corrupted. The files are all there, but it no longer has a UUID or TYPE label.
[22:19] <sebsebseb> Deathvalley122: also anything that isn't a Long Term Support release, is a kind of testing release
[22:19] <dolphinling_> Any idea how to fix that?
[22:20] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: ok boot the computer from the CD
[22:20] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: and come back here
[22:20] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: you might have to go into your BIOS and tell it to boot from CD first
[22:20] <benc1> I have a usb device that should be world-writable. How can I find out if it is?
[22:20] <sebsebseb> benc1: ah yes usb
[22:20] <Deathvalley122> sebsebseb: I gathered that much they shouldn't have released karmic so soon
[22:20] <calebgamb> Ok...
[22:21] <calebgamb> Booting
[22:21] <sebsebseb> benc1: uhmm  with 9.10 you got to put the password in for all USB devices I think
[22:21] <calebgamb> Now what?
[22:21] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: try Ubuntu without touching hard disk
[22:21] <songer> who knows why tucan manager download 1 link and the next no?
[22:21] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: first before installing Ubuntu, it's a good idea to test your hardware, Internet and such, make sure that works
[22:21] <Alacard> sebsebseb, you still have a few minutes?
[22:21] <sebsebseb> Alacard: yes
[22:21] <MyWay> hello
[22:21] <Alacard> thanks man
[22:22] <benc1> sebsebseb: I need it to be world-writable so eclipse can use it
[22:22] <MyWay> after i installed ubuntu 9.10, i think i've overwrited windows 7 mbr or something, because i can't see it anymore in the boot menu, is there a way to restore it from ubuntu?
[22:22] <sebsebseb> Alacard: XFS they say has most of the Ext4 advantages, and has been around for longer, but then for Grub you need a seperate /boot.  and Ext3 is fine really and the default file system for 8.04
[22:22] <calebgamb> The ubuntu logo is like REALLY stretched..
[22:23] <sebsebseb> calebgamb:  you mean the boot up logo?
[22:23] <calebgamb> The white one
[22:23] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: ah yes that thing,  personally I don't like it.  If you have you get issues with 9.10 you can try 9.04 the previous release, which is a pretty good one
[22:23] <coiax1> If I have an IP address, how can I find the domain name/machine name on the local network?
[22:23] <Alacard> Yeah, I'm fine with Ext3 but my machine is running 9.10 w/ ext4 so an 8.04 ext3 native system won't read it
[22:24] <calebgamb> sebsebseb: ohh yay there's now a bar
[22:24] <calebgamb> African sounds ;)
[22:24] <sebsebseb> Alacard: ok
[22:24] <sebsebseb> Alacard: yeah you want Ext3
[22:24] <msp3k> coiaz1, usually: host <IP-address>
[22:24] <Alacard> yeah
[22:24] <calebgamb> Okay
[22:24] <sebsebseb> Alacard: move your data into a new Ext3 partition, back it up some where else?  however your going to do it
[22:24] <calebgamb> Everything is booted up
[22:24] <Alacard> yeppers
[22:25] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: your on a lap top or desktop?
[22:25] <coiax1> msp3k: Thanks.
[22:25] <Alacard> I think that is the only way to accomplish my task
[22:25] <Alacard> thanks for your time
[22:25] <sebsebseb> Alacard: when 10.04 comes out by the way at the end of April,  you can directly upgrade to it from 8.04, but  you  are unlikely to get Ext4 on upgrade.  You might get Grub 2 on upgrade.   Anyway you don't really need those.
[22:26] <calebgamb> sebsebseb: Laptop
[22:26] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: ok so your using wireless?
[22:26] <calebgamb> Yes im trying to connect
[22:26] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: :(
[22:26] <sebsebseb> hmm
[22:27] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: you might have to configure your wireless,  which won't be easy as a new user
[22:27] <calebgamb> I connected
[22:27] <calebgamb> :p
[22:27] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: ok good
[22:27] <calebgamb> Im pro at windowsy stuff and ubuntus connection thing is similar
[22:27] <calebgamb> Now what?
[22:28] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: Reolize that your lucky, that you got someone, who will guide you in setting up a proper install.   However first, is this just a computer that is going Ubuntu only, or is it going to dual boot Windows as well or what?
[22:29] <calebgamb> sebsebseb: I know I am lucky to have your awesome tech support, and I want a dual boot with windows.
[22:29] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: ok I should have probably asked that question later on, now I got to ask this.  Which version of Windows?
[22:29] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: later on, I meant to put earlier on
[22:29] <calebgamb> Windows vista sp1
[22:29] <msp3k> Will any USB scanner work with Linux/Ubuntu nowadays, or is there anything I need to look for?
[22:30] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: SP1 hmm,  you haven't upgraded to SP3?  right uhmm  you got data in Vista or?
[22:30] <calebgamb> Home premium
[22:30] <tomasz> hi there, does somebody know how to install easily the newest version of ATI Catalyst, without playing with all the conf. files?
[22:30] <tafgr> ?
[22:30] <calebgamb> I got data in vista >.>
[22:30] <epinky> !hcl | msp3k
[22:31] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: ok well at least now we know that the install should work.  However this is the time where you should back up any important data just in case something goes wrong which is unlikely.  Also  the time where you should load up Vista, so you can let Vista resize itself, so you don't get data loss.
[22:31] <lotta> hi
[22:32] <sebsebseb> lotta: hi
[22:32] <Recursive> I have three computers on my home network: 1 wired Arch Linux computer, 1 wireless Fedora laptop, and 1 wireless Ubuntu laptop. Both the Ubuntu and Fedora laptops can ping the Arch Linux computer and vice versa, but when I try to have them ping each other, both display "Destination Host Unreachable". Is there some weird setting in Fedora that would prevent the Fedora computer from being seen?
[22:32] <Recursive> I mean some weird setting on the Ubuntu computer that would prevent it from being seen
[22:33] <Alacard> is there any sort of computer based training (ironic as it sounds) for ubuntu or debian?
[22:33] <epinky> Recursive: how are they connected?
[22:33] <sebsebseb> !training | Alacard
[22:33] <Recursive> Wirelessly to my router
[22:33] <sebsebseb> Alacard: hmm that's not what I wanted
[22:33] <Recursive> The Arch Linux computer is the only wired one
[22:34] <Alacard> lol
[22:34] <sebsebseb> Alacard: ,but sure there's that stuff,  there's an actsaul course from Canonical etc,  and  there's a free Ubuntu Pocket Guide you can download
[22:35] <epinky> Alacard: I think there are some from VTC trainning
[22:35] <sebsebseb> calebgamb: still here?
[22:35] <Alacard> any that's publicly available (as in open source or... free)?
[22:35] <lotta> i'm trying to set up the dual screen on xubuntu with a nvidia card. When i boot, i have a splashscreen but when it goes to the connexion screen (gdm i guess) the second screen shutdown and return me a : overrange HV sync. Also i have this warning on : Applications > parameters > Display : RandR exantion is missing for the screen ":0.0" : rotating and resizing extention (RandR) is not enabled fo this screen. Enable it and relaunch
[22:35] <sebsebseb> Alacard: LPI for general Linux  training
[22:35] <lotta>  this window. any idea to solve this issue and get the dual screen working plz ? (driver "nv")
[22:35] <Alacard> alright, thanks man
[22:36] <lun4tic> does somebody know how to get the 3D driver running on a via cle266 graphics chipset?
[22:37] <cyberkitsune> Hello
[22:37] <Natherul> ok i have booted with cd now and started gparted but how do i merge 2 patitions?
[22:37] <sebsebseb> CyberKitsune: hi
[22:37] <lun4tic> the openchrome package is installed and their homepage says that my chipset has 3D support
[22:38] <lotta> no ideas ? :)
[22:38] <epinky> Recursive: Archy can ping both?
[22:38] <Recursive> epinky, yeah
[22:38] <CyberKitsune> I installed the iSight tools on my MacBook4,1 and it extracted the driver successfully, I rebooted, but cheese still doesn't detect the camera.
[22:38] <CyberKitsune> Am I forgetting something?
[22:39] <Younder> How do I get dpkg to be aware of a new install, instead of the old 'make install'? I know there is a command, but I forget it's name.
[22:39] <epinky> Recursive: can Fedora ping Ubuntu?
[22:39] <Recursive> No
[22:39] <DaZ> Younder: checkinstall?
[22:40] <epinky> Recursive: can Ubuntu ping Fedora?
[22:40] <Recursive> The Fedora computer cannot ping the Ubuntu one and vice versa
[22:41] <Younder> Daz: Thanks! I've been looking for that for hours..
[22:41] <epinky> Recursive: ok, go to Fedora and disable iptables: service iptables stop
[22:41] <epinky> Recursive: then retry
[22:41] <blackest_knight> strange it says 3 people here
[22:42] <_BLACK_MAN_> Hello
[22:42] <_BLACK_MAN_> unbuntu user here
[22:42] <_BLACK_MAN_> i am experiecing issues with my ubuntu
[22:42] <_BLACK_MAN_> can anyone help
[22:42] <sebsebseb> !details | _BLACK_MAN_
[22:42] <Recursive> epinky, it still fails.
[22:42] <douglasawh-work_> I've got a 255MB partition I can mount on the live cd. Is that the hdd boot or a separent thing on the disk? I'm trying to mount an encrypted drive...long story
[22:42] <Recursive> "Destination host unreachable"
[22:42] <_BLACK_MAN_> i cannot parse the ORT-8a subset protocol in safe mode
[22:42] <_BLACK_MAN_> what do i do
[22:43] <lachouffe> hi ! do you know a good media info viewer (bitrate video /audio codec ...etc) in command line ?
[22:43] <lachouffe> I cannot use ffmpeg for it
[22:43] <luckarichmond> ciao
[22:43] <epinky> Recursive: ok, go to Ubuntu and flush iptables: sudo iptables -F
[22:44] <erUSUL> lachouffe: filoe can give that info
[22:45] <qwyeth_> Audio stopped working in my karmic install.  When I boot up and log in my volume is automatically muted and I find that I am no longer a member of the audio group.  Re-adding myself to audio doesn't fix the problem.
[22:45] <lotta> i'm trying to set up the dual screen on xubuntu with a nvidia card. When i boot, i have a splashscreen but when it goes to the connexion screen (gdm i guess) the second screen shutdown and return me a : overrange HV sync. Also i have this warning on : Applications > parameters > Display : RandR exantion is missing for the screen ":0.0" : rotating and resizing extention (RandR) is not enabled fo this screen. Enable it and relaunch
[22:45] <lotta>  this window. any idea to solve this issue and get the dual screen working plz ? (driver "nv")
[22:45] <homezz> when I go to view a mounted ntfs drive I get this error> you dont have enought permission necessary  to view the contents of "ntfs drive' what can be done
[22:46] <Recursive> epinky, no, it still fails both ways. Lemme make sure I'm doing the ping right: I go to one of the computers and do ifconfig, then read the ip address for wlan0, the go to the other one and do ping -c 3 [ipaddress]
[22:46] <blackest_knight> homezz sudo :)
[22:47] <LadyLynn> I'm a complete newbie to ubuntu and am having two problems.  I have an external hard drive that I can not seem to find (it's NTFS) and I would like to view my windows file (dual booting with Vista)
[22:47] <douglasawh-work_> anybody know about encrypted file systems that can help me get this thing mounted?
[22:47] <homezz> blackest_knight< u mean sudo mount -a I did that same thing
[22:48] <joejc> i want to get compiz on 3 monitors. can anyone whos done that before help me?
[22:48] <blackest_knight> LadyLynn: click on top or bottom panel and add to panel disk mounter
[22:49] <blackest_knight> homezz: mount -a would only mount whats in fstab
[22:49] <CyberKitsune> Did anybody see my question earlier?
[22:49] <LadyLynn> blackest knight, I just added the disk mounter
[22:49] <blackest_knight> homezz: try sudo nautilus and see if you can navigate to the drive
[22:50] <Ritzerisk> is there like a command to give me General CPU info like what hardware i have
[22:50] <blackest_knight> LadyLynn:  with a little luck your drive should pop up on the panel and you can mount it
[22:51] <LadyLynn> how do I open disk mounter?  I did not see anything change when I added it
[22:51] <mbrigdan> Somehow the encrypt/decrypt option in my context menu has disappeared. How can I get it back?
[22:51] <blackest_knight> LadyLynn: it might take a reboot/ log out  before it works
[22:51] <LadyLynn> ok, thank you
[22:52] <blackest_knight> is there really less than 30 people here ?
[22:52] <sebsebseb> blackest_knight: no there is over 1300 people here
[22:53] <Ritzerisk> lotsa peeps
[22:53] <blackest_knight> hmm weird pidgin says 24 currently
[22:53] <blackest_knight> 26
[22:53] <sebsebseb> Ritzerisk: yeah about 1400
[22:53] <homezz> blackest_knight< nautilus could not get to the ntfs drive
[22:53] <sebsebseb> blackest_knight: Pidgin is known to not be that good, with IRC
[22:54] <Ritzerisk> holy kanoli
[22:54] <mbrigdan> Somehow the encrypt/decrypt option in my context menu has disappeared. How can I get it back?
[22:54] <JavaShin> os[Linux 2.6.31-16-generic i686] distro[Ubuntu "karmic" 9.10] cpu[2 x Genuine Intel(R) CPU           T2300  @ 1.66GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 1.66GHz] mem[Physical: 1001.0MB, 66.7% free] disk[Total: 36.7GB, 86.2% free] video[ATI Technologies Inc M56P [Radeon Mobility X1600]] sound[HDA-Intel - HDA Intel]
[22:54] <vis> Hi everyone :) I've added a PPA in ubuntu for a different version of mplayer, and reinstalled it via apt. How can I check that the version of mplayer I have installed is from this PPA? https://launchpad.net/~rvm/+archive/mplayer
[22:54] <sebsebseb> blackest_knight: Xchat is ok, but I much prefer Konversation which is a KDE app,  which I will run in Gnome or KDE
[22:54] <JavaShin> video[ATI Technologies Inc M56P [Radeon Mobility X1600] @ Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub]
[22:54] <sebsebseb> blackest_knight: (and the KDE I am running in at the moment, is not in Kubuntu)
[22:55] <Shai_-> hi
[22:55] <Shai_-> i'm trying to set up the dual screen on xubuntu with a nvidia card. When i boot, i have a splashscreen but when it goes to the connexion screen (gdm i guess) the  second screen shutdown and return me a : overrange HV sync. Also i have this warning on : Applications > parameters > Display : RandR exantion is missing for the
[22:55] <Shai_->  screen ":0.0" : rotting and resizing extention (RandR) is not enabled fo thnis screen
[22:55] <epinky> Ritzerisk: lshw -c cpu
[22:55] <Ritzerisk> would anyone know a QUICK command to show Basic Hardware like cpu mem and such
[22:55] <Ritzerisk> thanks
[22:55] <sebsebseb> !irc |  blackest_knight
[22:55] <homezz> blackest_knight< nautilus could not get to the drive
[22:55] <Shai_-> Enable it and relaunch this windo
[22:56] <blackest_knight> homezz is the drive mounted ?
[22:56] <Shai_-> any idea to solve this issue and get the dual screen working plz ? (driver "nv")
[22:56] <Shai_-> :)
[22:56] <homezz> yes
[22:56] <homezz> blackest_knight< yes
[22:56] <vis> !apt
[22:56] <Travis-42> Is there a key-binding to move a window between multiple monitors?
[22:56] <vis> !package
[22:56] <mbrigdan> Somehow the encrypt/decrypt option in my context menu has disappeared. How can I get it back?
[22:56] <vis> !PPA
[22:56] <MTec007> looking for a bit of advice. as a regular laptop, no servers, what should i do as far as a firewall goes? is it ok stock or should i do something more?
[22:57] <graham_> mtec007 do you have a router?
[22:57] <MTec007> some times
[22:57] <MTec007> at times its a direct modem connection
[22:57] <blackest_knight> homezz: usually sudo will get you into most drives does properties tell you anything?
[22:57] <graham_> i rely on my router to be my firewall
[22:58] <graham_> do you have cable or dsl
[22:58] <graham_> ?
[22:58] <epinky> !ufw | MTec007
[22:58] <graham_> or that...
[22:58] <MTec007> on dsl atm
[22:59] <graham_> you probably get a new ip address everytime you connect
[22:59] <graham_> so it's probably not a big deal
[23:00] <MTec007> well that set aside, i still think there should be a consern?
[23:00] <DASPRiD> This question may probably already have appeared a few times, does someone know, why the ralink rt61 wifi adapter doesn't work anymore on ubuntu 9.10?
[23:00] <vis> I'm a bit confused here - if I add this PPA https://launchpad.net/~rvm/+archive/mplayer and then 'sudo apt-get install mplayer' , will it by default install the version from that PPA?
[23:00] <graham_> look into the firestarter package in synaptic
[23:01] <Hilikus> where is the best place to configure samba shares? i usually do it in /etc/samba/smb.conf but every time i update distro it tries to override it, which tells me i'm doing it in the wrong place
[23:01] <graham_> it's a nice gui for seting up a basic firewall
[23:01] <mbrigdan> Somehow the encrypt/decrypt option in my context menu has disappeared. How can I get it back?
[23:01] <syrius> how do I burn video_ts in ubuntu to playable dvd?
[23:01] <graham_> you should probably find yourself an online port scanner to test it
[23:01] <epinky> mbrigdan: you mean in Gnome?
[23:02] <Recursive> After disabling the firewalls on both computers it worked. Thanks all.
[23:02] <graham_> try the test before and after setup to  make sure it works
[23:02] <mbrigdan> epinky, Yeah, you used to get an encrypt / decrypt option when you right-clicked files
[23:02] <fiber> hi, I was wondering if anyone knew if rsync could do multi-part downloads (ie: initialize multiple connections to download one file... preferably through ssh or sftp)... i have a server that limits the speed per connection but i can have multiple connections to speed things up... thanks!
[23:03] <epinky> mbrigdan: try : sudo apt-get install seahorse-plugins
[23:04] <epinky> mbrigdan: then restart gdm: sudo service gdm restart
[23:05] <White_Pelican> is there any way to add icons like cut and paste to the main toolbar in Nautilus?
[23:05] <mbrigdan> epinky, ok, trying it now
[23:05] <Hilikus> where is the best place to configure samba shares? i usually do it in /etc/samba/smb.conf but every time i update distro it tries to override it, which tells me i'm doing it in the wrong place
[23:06] <epinky> Hilikus: use swat, you will also need xinetd
[23:06] <Hilikus> epinky: what is it
[23:06] <Hilikus> !swat
[23:06] <vis> Can anyone please help me check that I've properly installed this version of mplayer? https://launchpad.net/~rvm/+archive/mplayer
[23:06] <ShyGuy> hello, what channel should I join for PHP issues
[23:07] <jMyles> I have one Ubuntu box hooked up to a stereo system.  I'd like for others to be able to connect (preferably by http - web based) and view and modify a playlist of music files.  Where to begin?
[23:07] <graham_> Hilikus try: !pyneighborhood
[23:08] <epinky> ShyGuy: ##php
[23:08] <graham_> !pyneighborhood
[23:08] <Hilikus> !pyneighborhood
[23:08] <leopistabas> anyone know how to see my music from itouch on linux?
[23:08] <graham_> hilikus here's the url: https://launchpad.net/pyneighborhood
[23:08] <fujimitsu> any known issues dual booting vista/9.10 with grub2 ?
[23:08] <vis> fujimitsu: works fine for me :)
[23:08] <cheri703> what is the best way to be able to access my desktop files from my laptop?
[23:09] <Hilikus> graham_: browsing?
[23:09] <cheri703> while not on the same network
[23:09] <Diverdude> how do i access the file system of a windows computer on my LAN-network from ubuntu?
[23:09] <graham_> hilikus: i think it can mount too
[23:09] <semioticrobotic> cheri703: Have you tried the Ubuntu One service?
[23:09] <cheri703> ah, true, but I'm hoping to be able to just browse as needed...
[23:10] <xenaxon> +
[23:10] <Hilikus> i don't need a frontend. i know how to do it in text. my qusetion is, where should it be done so that an update won't tell me i need to choose between a local version and a dist version
[23:10] <tj_> hey, whats the hack for fixing pulse audio popping ?
[23:10] <graham_> local and dist version of what?
[23:11] <Hilikus> graham_: /etc/samba/smb.conf
[23:11] <tj_> hey, whats the hack for fixing pulse audio popping ? in Karmic ?
[23:11] <olvap> hi, im making an example. i need to change in the irb console the method +, so when i make 1+1 i get 3 instead of 2. any one could give an orientation?
[23:11] <Diverdude> how do i access the file system of a windows computer on my LAN-network from ubuntu?
[23:12] <graham_> does it tell you where it wants to place it?
[23:12] <epinky> Diverdude: use smb://path/to/windows/share on nautilus
[23:12] <Diverdude> epinky, what is nautilus?
[23:12] <epinky> Diverdude: are you using GnomeP
[23:12] <leopistabas> anyone know how to see my music from itouch on linux?
[23:12] <greenshift> hi. using ubuntu 9.10 and dell inspiron 1501 with german keyboard layout, sometimes the ALT-GR key works, sometimes not (to make the at-sign etc.). anyone the same prob?
[23:12] <epinky> Diverdude: are you using Gnome?*
[23:13] <Diverdude> epinky, yeah
[23:13] <epinky> Diverdude: File browser
[23:13] <FlashMaster> ïðèâåò
[23:13] <Rewt`> nautilis is like Explorer.exe in windows
[23:13] <mindwipe> Hello. Earlier today I got a zombie process which were used by the "root". I tried to kill it with its pid and with kill -9 pid.. But it didn't work. Anyone knows what I should do next time I got one zombie?
[23:14] <Recursive> Why does a sshfs mounted filesystem appear for the user that mounted it but not for root?
[23:14] <graham_> hilikus: i just checked and my smb.conf is in /usr/share/samba/
[23:14] <multiman> omfg
[23:14] <graham_> try copying yours to that directory
[23:15] <Hilikus> graham_: mmmm i never noticed that. there's 2
[23:15] <vis> Can anyone please help me check that I've properly installed this version of mplayer, and not just the standard mplayer? https://launchpad.net/~rvm/+archive/mplayer
[23:16] <mindwipe> Hello. Earlier today I got a zombie process which were used by the "root". I tried to kill it with its pid and with kill -9 pid.. But it didn't work. Anyone knows what I should do next time I got one zombie?
[23:16] <greenshift> hi. using ubuntu 9.10 and dell inspiron 1501 with german keyboard layout, sometimes the ALT-GR key works, sometimes not (to make the at-sign etc.). anyone the same prob?
[23:16] <neodragon> I am looking for a vpn client that is compatible with the Cisco VPN client, my work insists on putting XP on all their laptops, but they will allow me to dual boot with linux as long as I leave the XP partition in tact?
[23:16] <graham_> most program updates deal nicely with manually edited files
[23:17] <Typh> Can anyone lend a hand? I can't launch the software sources gui: http://dpaste.com/136426/
[23:18] <neodragon> I have been trying to download the linux port of the Cisco VPN clent, but where ever I go to download it they want me to sign up for a member ship on their webite.
[23:18] <dkkong> I've got an issue with the PPC Karmic Disc. It burns and loads fine on my mac, but I get an authentication failed when it tries to login. There's no username and password, so I can't login to the Live CD. How do I fix this?
[23:18] <epinky> neodragon: pptp-client does not work?
[23:19] <The> y
[23:19] <Tiders> Why does Kubuntus fonts randomly go really small on some boots
[23:19] <epinky> neodragon: I think it's on pptp-linux package
[23:20] <neodragon> epinky: sorry what do you mean by pptp?
[23:21] <syrius> how do I burn video_ts with brasero?
[23:21] <epinky> neodragon: it's a  VPN client
[23:22] <abel408> Hey everyone. I installed ubuntu on my windows partition using wubi. How can I access my windows files from inside ubuntu?
[23:23] <baxter_kylie> Anyone know how to install legacy grub? Fresh install of 9.10 won't boot since it seems to hate raid1 & root on lvm.
[23:23] <Recursive> WTF the Ubuntu computer and Fedora computer will now only be able to ping each other for a little while after they connect to my network. After that they stop working
[23:23] <ubuntu__> <
[23:23] <iceroot> baxter_kylie: only working if you use alternate cd
[23:23] <ubuntu__> M
[23:23] <neodragon> epinky: OH ok, I will try it and see if that works then. Is it compatible with a cisco vpn connection
[23:23] <vis> abel408: navigate to /media using the file manager, by clicking on "places" in the top menu
[23:23] <ubuntu__> sorry
[23:23] <ubuntu__> >nick Dolgo
[23:23] <baxter_kylie> iceroot: Used server (aka / alternate) cd.
[23:23] <ubuntu__> i ; on qwerty lol
[23:24] <iceroot> baxter_kylie: server != alternate
[23:24] <lexsoOr> !lmms
[23:24] <syrius> why is ubuntu unstable?
[23:24] <syrius> nothing seems to work
[23:24] <iceroot> baxter_kylie: but maybe server can handle raid/lvm too
[23:24] <baxter_kylie> iceroot: Not directly, no, but they both use the debian installer.
[23:24] <iceroot> syrius: its debian unstable :)
[23:24] <Ritzerisk> would anyone know a QUICK command to show Basic Hardware like cpu mem and such
[23:24] <iceroot> !doesntwork | syrius
[23:25] <epinky> neodragon: it can use many protocols , you mean ipsec?
[23:25] <Scunizi> Ritzerisk: sudo lshw
[23:25] <baxter_kylie> iceroot: It seems to be more of a bunch of grub2 error. I see issues across the internet that seem similar. Quite a few open bug reports with no replies.
[23:25] <syrius> iceroot no its not have you read the changes logs it doesn't use debian sid anymore it does its own packaging
[23:26] <iceroot> syrius: its still based on debian
[23:26] <neodragon> epinky: yes I believe that is what the cisco vpn client uses.
[23:26] <syrius> no its not it just uses the debian package system iceroot
[23:26] <iceroot> syrius: please read some links. like ubuntu.com
[23:27] <iceroot> syrius: or interviews with mark shattle...
[23:27] <Guest12407> looking for a compatible USB wireless g adapter...Any at office max that will work?
[23:27] <abel408> vis: Thanks, but I do not have a media directory in my home directory. I have music, movies, pictures, documents, and downloads. All don't contain anything in them.
[23:27] <syrius> how am I wrong? ice
[23:27] <iceroot> syrius: especialy the interview about the same release times for debian and ubuntu
[23:27] <syrius> have you not read the change logs? iceroot
[23:27] <flowerface> i want to use kubuntu on my flash drive usb . and pluge it to any computer and run it. just like live cd. how can i do it?
[23:28] <neodragon> epinky: unfortunately the servers that my company has me monitoring are all Windows Server 2003. :(
[23:28] <syrius> for a stable debian release it takes ages iceroot
[23:28] <Scunizi> flowerface: boot the live cd for kubuntu and in the menus there will be an option for creaating a usb stick.. I did it and it works.
[23:28] <vis> abel408: go to your root directory - that's like 'My Computer' in windows
[23:28] <vis> we call it /
[23:28] <syrius> iceroot they have stopped using debian sid
[23:28] <vis> from there, go into media
[23:29] <vis> abel408: that's where all your hard drives and cdroms, usb disks etc are listed if they're mounted
[23:29] <abel408> vis: Found it. It is in File System -> Host. Thanks
[23:29] <syrius> well according to someone that use to be a dev for debian and did some dev work with ubuntu told me that iceroot
[23:29] <vis> abel408: have a look around the file system, try and get aquainted to it.
[23:29] <flowerface> Scunizi ok
[23:29] <vis> don't do anything.. just look :)
[23:29] <iceroot> !debian | syrius
[23:30] <iceroot> syrius: read that
[23:30] <iceroot> syrius: http://blogs.computerworld.com/14499/shuttleworth_wants_debian_ubuntu_co_operation
[23:31] <flowerface> i want to use kubuntu on my flash drive usb . and pluge it to any computer and run it. just like live cd. how can i do it?
[23:31] <epinky> neodragon: ok, then you'll need openswan, good luck
[23:31] <iceroot> !usb | flowerface
[23:32] <neodragon> epinky: thanks for the help
[23:33] <flowerface> iceroot no not installing. i want to use usb stick as i use live cd
[23:33] <iceroot> flowerface: 2. link from ubottu
[23:33] <iceroot> flowerface: ah ok, just put the iso on the usb disk
[23:33] <vis> guys, can anyone who's happy with divx streaming with mplayer in firefox talk me through their mplayer settings? I think mine are a bit messed up
[23:33] <iceroot> flowerface: for e.g. use dd to copy the cd to usb
[23:34] <iceroot> syrius: trust me now? or do you need more links?
[23:34] <flowerface> iceroot hmm. ok
[23:35] <syrius> well that guy could also not know what he is talking about just like people post info about ufo's on the net iceroot
[23:36] <syrius> well the article sounds more like a fight rather than ubuntu actually using debian sid
[23:36] <dath> Gtk-WARNING **: Failed to load module "libcanberra-gtk-module.so": libcanberra-gtk-module.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[23:36] <iceroot> syrius: np :) i am working with a debian maintainer, and everyday i hear how much he hates ubuntu because of "not upstreaming patches back to debian"
[23:36] <dath> what now? :O
[23:37] <jpds> dath: Install: libcanberra-gtk-module
[23:37] <dath> jpds: it is installed already :(
[23:38] <jpds> dath: What are you trying to run?
[23:38] <dath> jpds: quake 3 setup
[23:38] <iceroot> syrius: Development for Karmic just recently opened and many of the new features have not yet started to appear. Currently the changes include the sync of packages from Debian Unstable or Sid has begun, a new kernel based on 2.6.30 and the latest development release of GNOME, 2.27.1.
[23:39] <jpds> dath: From the command line?
[23:39] <iceroot> syrius: directly from ubuntu.com
[23:39] <iceroot> syrius: info for karmic alpha 1
[23:39] <dath> jpds: yes, with the shell script from id
[23:39] <iceroot> syrius: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/karmic/alpha1
[23:39] <jpds> dath: Put: "strace -e open -f" in front of the shell command and paste the end of the output at paste.ubuntu.com
[23:39] <syrius> hmm well it seems that dude was all talk and doesn't know what he is talking about
[23:40] <gatekeeper> how do i use transmission torrent
[23:40] <iceroot> syrius: As with every new release, packages--applications and software of all kinds--are being updated at a rapid pace. Many of these packages come from an automatic sync from Debian's Unstable branch. For a list of all packages being accepted for 9.10 Karmic Koala, please subscribe to karmic-changes:
[23:41] <dath> jpds: may the cause be that the installer needs the root password
[23:41] <jpds> dath: Maybe, the output will tell.
[23:43] <DarkWell> got probs with the ubuntu 9.10 liveCD run ;
[23:43] <DarkWell> trying cryptsetup --verbose -c twofish-xts-essiv:sha256 luksFormat /dev/sda5 /media/e91a1c82-4f7f-4a36-b15d-c867056ccb84/desktop1/root
[23:44] <dath> jpds: i changed the root password and gave it to the installer but i get the same error
[23:44] <DarkWell> Command failed: Failed to setup dm-crypt key mapping.
[23:44] <DarkWell> Check kernel for support for the twofish-xts-essiv cipher spec and verify that /dev/sda6 contains at least 133 sectors
[23:44] <DarkWell> I thought that the livdCD had support for this
[23:45] <jpds> DarkWell: Have you run modprobe dm-crypt?
[23:46] <DarkWell> jpds, seems that dmcrypt works
[23:46] <santa123> !ops
[23:47] <jpds> santa123: Hi.
[23:47] <santa123> !stfu
[23:47] <DarkWell> dm-crypt is already loaded
[23:47] <hsa2> hello all
[23:47] <hsa2> anyone using gnome-do ?
[23:48] <jpds> dath: Try installing: ia32-libs
[23:49] <dath> jpds: cant find that package in synaptic
[23:49] <DarkWell> anyways seems that I cant create any good stuff with the liveCD ?
[23:49] <hsa2> what happens whan i press '.' in gnome-do?
[23:49] <hsa2> it opens a window like a text input
[23:49] <DarkWell> i refuse using anything that could be attack by watermark attacks
[23:49] <hsa2> but i cannot understand what it does
[23:49] <jpds> DarkWell: Well, you just have to find out where twofish-xts-essiv is.
[23:50] <jpds> dath: I'm sorry, I'm out of ideas.
[23:50] <hsa2> any idea for me
[23:50] <DarkWell> yes where =
[23:50] <jpds> hsa2: It's for adding long texts really...
[23:50] <hsa2> ?
[23:50] <DarkWell> ?
[23:50] <hsa2> hmmm
[23:50] <hsa2> i see now
[23:50] <hsa2> thanks a lot
[23:50] <DarkWell> i have the twofish and twofish-common modules
[23:50] <jpds> hsa2: Like, if you use the Remmeber the Milk plugin.
[23:51] <DarkWell> modprobe -l | grep $what ?
[23:51] <jpds> hsa2: Type something and hit Esc, and it'll add the text to the text field you're in.
[23:52] <Typh> Can anyone lend a hand? I can't launch the software sources gui: http://dpaste.com/136426/
[23:52] <epinky> hsa2: Pressing . (period) as the first key in a pane enters Text Mode, when applicable. Use it for typing larger amounts of text, or when you want to type without distractions. Do will automatically enter this mode when there are no other options than text for you to select. http://do.davebsd.com/wiki/Using_Do
[23:53] <syrius> hmm
[23:53] <syrius> ubuntu is anti democratic they are pro capitalism therefor they are unanarchist
[23:54] <vis> anyone have any ideas about this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=8539150#post8539150
[23:54] <jpds> syrius: Cool, but offtopic for here.
[23:54] <leopistabas> anyone know how to see my music from itouch on linux?
[23:54] <erUSUL> !ipod
[23:54] <syrius> why you not in offtopic jpds
[23:55] <jpds> syrius: I'm in 35 channels as it is.
[23:55] <cheezey> question. is there anything that allows me to extract the "EDID" thingy from my laptop. (im following: http://republicadelosbananos.wordpress.com/2009/12/10/solution-for-nvidia-210m-causing-blank-screen-after-driver-install/ but the program they suggest crashes on my computer no matter what :X)
[23:55] <DarkWell> AES didnt work eier this ccommand gave exactly same error :
[23:55] <DarkWell> cryptsetup --verbose -c aes-xts-essiv:sha256 luksFormat /dev/sda5 /media/e91a1c82-4f7f-4a36-b15d-c867056ccb84/desktop1/root
[23:56] <syrius> leopistabas just use rockbox I just put a folder on my ipod and put the music there and I disabled the ipod plugin for rhythmbox and enable the MTP plugin this will only let you see the music in the folder you created
[23:57] <dath> jpds: quake 3 runs now, you have to run the script as root
[23:57] <jpds> DarkWell: Try: sudo lukformat -t ext3 /dev/sda5
[23:57] <jpds> DarkWell: Ah, glad to hear you sorted it.
[23:57] <syrius> dath link?
[23:57] <leopistabas> syrius, ok and that will work with itouvh?
[23:57] <dath> syrius: what link?
[23:57] <syrius> to how to use that with quake 3 dath
[23:57] <unop> Typh, sounds like it's missing a template , a file or so. what happens when you try and run it without gksudo?
[23:58] <syrius> dunno look at rockbox to see if it supports your ipod model leopistabas
[23:58] <Typh> unop: same thing
[23:58] <dath> syrius: http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/q3a/ , http://www.neowin.net/forum/lofiversion/index.php/t252074.html
[23:58] <dath> all you have to do is run the script as root
[23:59] <dath> then it seems to work
[23:59] <dath> game starts
[23:59] <judgen> How do i set the gnome icon theme from kde?
[23:59] <dath> unfortunately without sound, but im gonna fix that
[23:59] <unop> Typh, hmm, I would try reinstalling the software-properties-gtk package in the hope that it replaces the missing file(s).   sudo aptitude reinstall software-properties-gtk