/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/12/22/#kubuntu.txt

zzzxzzz	is anybody here?	00:00
judgen	seems noone is answering	00:02
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rodrigo	olá	00:22
vzduch	!pt \| rodrigo	00:22
ubottu	rodrigo: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.	00:22
Tiders	wn-desktop:~$ w.exe	00:24
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vzduch	Tiders: ?	00:36
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Tiders-	What do I do if when I reboot windows are opening in the top corner and I cant do anyting with them	00:51
mkquist	Tiders-: what do you mean you cant do anything?	01:02
mkquist	Tiders-: cant you just kill em?	01:02
arenas	hello, does anybody know ascii code for <Enter> key?	01:03
mkquist	arenas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carriage_return might help	01:06
Tiders-	mkquist, No because when I open a terminal it wont let me do anything inside the terminal	01:07
Tiders-	mkquist, ANd when I reboot they are still there	01:07
mkquist	terminal doesnt work?	01:08
arenas	thanx man	01:09
mkquist	ur welcome	01:09
Tiders-	mkquist, Nothing does	01:10
mkquist	?? new install?	01:11
Tiders-	mkquist, I can open applications but they open to the top corner of the screen and I cant do anything with them	01:11
Tiders-	Im typing from my laptop even because I cant do anything at all on my desktop	01:11
Tiders-	If I cant fix this there is no way I am trying out KDE again	01:11
mkquist	gnome and kde both installed?	01:11
Tiders-	No	01:12
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iconmefisto	Tiders-: do you have a panel at the bottom?	01:28
Tiders-	Yes	01:28
Tiders-	iconmefisto, And I can open stuff but it opens to the top corner	01:28
iconmefisto	and the windows that open appear in the panel?	01:28
Tiders-	No	01:28
Tiders-	In the top of the screen	01:28
iconmefisto	no?	01:28
Tiders-	They just appear randomly at the top right of my monitor	01:29
iconmefisto	so you have windows with no matching buttons in panel?	01:29
Tiders-	And their title bars are unreachable	01:29
Tiders-	Thats correct	01:29
iconmefisto	you can move the windows by holding down alt and grabbing the window with the mouse (anywhere in the window)	01:30
iconmefisto	or you can kill the window if you ctrl-alt-esc then touch the window you want to kill with the skull and crossbones mousepointer which should appear	01:31
iconmefisto	either of those work Tiders- ?	01:32
Tiders-	Yes they close but then when I open another window they still open to the top corner	01:32
Tiders-	And are still unusable	01:33
iconmefisto	can you add widgets to the panel?	01:33
vzduch	sounds like desktop size doesn't match screen resolution	01:33
Tiders-	I think Im just going to give up with KDE.. I mean I like it a lot more but it just doesnt seem stable	01:34
iconmefisto	Tiders-: what graphics card do you have?	01:34
vzduch	Tiders-: it definitely is.. /me is more under the impression that Kubuntu isn't stable :P	01:34
Tiders-	nvidia 9600 GT	01:35
Tiders-	Asus*	01:35
Tiders-	It has a Nvidia GPU though	01:35
Tiders-	Asus 9600GT	01:35
iconmefisto	does the panel go all the way across the bottom of the screen? or is that misaligned and not at the bottom?	01:36
Tiders-	It goes all the way accross the bottom	01:37
iconmefisto	what about opening konsole and moving it with alt+drag so you can use it	01:38
vzduch	what about logging out choosing not to store the session ('Start with blank session' or something), then re-logging in?	01:40
gehzumteufel	Anyone know about konsole environment editing?	01:50
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vzduch	!anyone	01:57
ubottu	A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	01:57
iconmefisto	Tiders-: is this a new install?	01:58
Tiders-	iconmefisto, Yes it was until I removed it	01:59
iconmefisto	removed?	01:59
iconmefisto	are you reinstalling?	01:59
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Roasted	has anybody noticed they had video tearing in VLC, but not in dragon player?	03:21
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Roasted	hey guys	03:46
Roasted	whats up with dragon player? Has KDE used it for a long time now?	03:46
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Guest94879	how to use blackbox in kubuntu? i have installed it, but i dont know how to put it on	03:47
Guest94879	hey how to enable asking about user profile when you boot?	04:01
yang_	Major Update for KDE today in Kubuntu?? Not Claus is it?? That would be exciting...	04:37
yang_	KDE 4.4B2 is available in kubuntu!	04:38
islington	yang_: no official announcement yet, but just saw the update	04:41
JontheEchidna	assuming nothing catastrophic happens it'll be announced tomorrowish (depending on your timezone)	04:42
yang_	islington: super quick packaging of beta2.	04:42
yang_	Can't wiat should fix no compistion.	04:42
yang_	Virtuoso packaged yet?	04:42
islington	yang_: I just noticed that after the update I am running b2, awesome, I see no diff since my composition was already working	04:42
JontheEchidna	Not yet. :( Waiting on virtuoso 6.0.1	04:43
islington	I dont see it in the repos	04:43
yang_	Hmm. I will look into ETA for release .	04:43
islington	oh yay kwin is not so crashy when opening a svgz file.	04:44
yang_	islington: my just downloaded haha installing now...	04:45
yang_	Wait? Were waiting on a minor revision to package?	04:48
francisco_	does anybody know why kubuntu 9.10 does not recognice wireless in hp dv 6935la	05:18
islington	mmm bbc weather bug is still not gone :(	05:24
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matt001	Hi, Does anyone know when 4.4 beta 2 will be available for install from a ppa?	05:39
yang_	now	05:39
yang_	Im running right now lol	05:39
yang_	Does anybody know about tabbing windows in KDE 4.4 B2?	05:40
matt001	yang_ - what is the ppa? do you know?	05:40
yang_	Same as Beta1 i THink	05:40
matt001	yang_ I installed beta 1 - but ran into the video card issue of coruption	05:41
yang_	NO Comp issue?	05:41
yang_	me also. Fixed in trunk if same issue	05:41
matt001	has that been fixed do you know>	05:41
yang_	Yesssir	05:41
yang_	full comp form me right now	05:41
yang_	but wierd enough no color on note plasmoids or plasma crashes	05:42
matt001	yang_ tabbing windows - are you talking about the new grouping windows?	05:44
yang_	also can't do grouping windows thing	05:44
yang_	yessir	05:44
yang_	tabbing windows.	05:44
matt001	I though I saw a video demoing how to do that	05:44
yang_	link me?	05:44
yang_	was easy in B1	05:45
matt001	let me see if I can find it	05:45
matt001	brb	05:45
yang_	right click -> group w/	05:45
islington	middle click and drag?	05:47
yang_	ill try	05:47
matt001	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEuapaLJF8g&feature=PlayList&p=13CB0B9654594D28&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=87	05:47
islington	middleclick on title yang_	05:47
matt001	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrcIUkQnYjk&feature=PlayList&p=13CB0B9654594D28&index=89	05:48
yang_	islington: matt001 still no luck lol?	05:54
yang_	partially because of 2 button mouse . ...	05:54
matt001	yang_ - I found the previews on youtube, there is a part showing the grouping of windows, but youtube is being really slow here in New Zealand, trying to find a time reference in the video for you	05:55
yang_	video has all kinds of features mine doesn't	05:57
yang_	search type of plasma activity?	05:57
yang_	mine only has folder view and desktop	05:57
islington	you could install more	05:58
islington	I think	05:58
yang_	islington: really? very intresting... how?	05:59
islington	well the news paper activity is packaged into plasma-netbook	06:00
yang_	hmm	06:01
yang_	mouse actions are kool. Set left to application launcher.	06:03
yang_	hmmm... I can't tab windows in 4.4 B2 even with middle click mouse.	06:23
r4v3nsw0rd	is there a way to get google-chrome-beta to use gnash instead of adobe flash player?	06:26
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OxDeadC0de	anyone have experience with 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01) in 9.10? It was working with ndiswrapper in 8.10 and 9.04 now it won't	06:52
OxDeadC0de	wl scans fine but won't connect... and I just added the network manager applet from the repo (Before I was running it compiled), and when I try to add a connection it crashes (And with the old compiled network manager applet it wouldn't connect.. ever)	06:53
Tm_T	yang_: B2 ?	06:53
et_	do the 4.4 beta packages include Virtuoso?	06:57
Tm_T	et_: current packages?	06:58
et_	4.3.80 or 4.3.85	06:59
Tm_T	et_: hmm, cannot see it	07:01
jussi01	Tm_T: no	07:01
et_	I get a message about Nepomuk needing the Virtuoso RDF backend, is that planned later?	07:03
bakarat	i can't shut down kubuntu anymore, since latest update both hibernate and regular shutdown (even sudo shutdown now) do NOT work, they work up to a point, the screen goes black, but the computer stays on, i have to hit the powerbutton to power it down	07:05
\|OxDeadC0de\|	never mind, it all was working I guess but the old network-manager applet I had manually compiled and installed was interfering with things.. luckily I still had the makefile so I did a make uninstall	07:05
et_	bakarat: do you get a graphical login, or do you log in on the console?	07:06
bakarat	et_, graphical	07:06
et_	bakarat: it sounds like a process isn't stopping and the computer is waiting for it to quit (which it won't). My mom's computer does that intermittently, and it's the bluetooth module.	07:10
bakarat	et_, odd though, i've been running ubuntu/kubuntu on this machine for a year, no problems until the last update	07:11
et_	bakarat: do you remember what was in the update?	07:11
bakarat	et_, no :(	07:12
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bakarat	et_, is there any way to trace what is hanging the system?	07:12
Neel03	hello world :)	07:12
bakarat	et_, o btw, if it helps, when i go into hibernate, it first gives the message "screen is locked", but it continues anyway	07:12
bakarat	et_, most applications do not "lock" the screen iirc?	07:13
et_	bakarat: if there is, I don't know what it is. As to hibernate, I think that's normal. It's locking the screen so that, if your computer is accessed when it wakes up, the baddies can't get at your data.	07:14
et_	bakarat: do you kpackagekit for updates?	07:15
bakarat	et_, ah hehe, hadn't seen that warning before :>	07:15
bakarat	et_, no, synaptic	07:15
bakarat	et_, and/or apt-get	07:15
bakarat	et_, uh, not synaptic, i mean the update manager	07:16
bakarat	et_, whatever program that is :>	07:16
et_	bakarat: Let's take a shot in the dark. Open synaptic, go to file, and select history. See if the update is listed there (by date).	07:17
bakarat	et_, nope, not there :(	07:18
iconmefisto	does aptitude show update history?	07:19
iconmefisto	I mean, can aptitude do that	07:20
et_	iconmefisto: take a look at /var/log/aptitude	07:22
et_	bakarat: you might want to look at /var/log/dpkg.log	07:25
bakarat	et_, /var/log/apt/term.log seems to be more complete	07:26
et_	Oh, OK. I always use Aptitude, so my term.log is blank.	07:26
bakarat	:>	07:26
bakarat	et_, http://pastebin.com/m212cb508	07:29
et_	bakarat: regarding your hanging app, you might take a look at ksystemlog (or the GNOME equivalent). Looking at your file, I would expect gdm to be the troublemaker, but I think it could be anything in the list.	07:33
judgen	i have a tiny problem.. not a showstopper. but kdm refuses to start at bootup. I have to start it manually from cli. Kinda renders the usage of kdm void of purpose.	07:35
judgen	I might as well just use the xinit script and skip kdm alltogether.	07:36
judgen	but it aint as pretty. (i know im fickle)	07:36
et_	judgen: is this a new problem?	07:39
judgen	et_: yup never had it before	07:57
judgen	but then again i usually use kde3.	07:57
et_	Well then, I must ask THE QUESTION, what has changed since it last worked properly?	07:58
judgen	i installed kdm4 =P	08:01
et_	How did you install it?	08:02
judgen	regular aptitude install	08:02
et_	If you were using kde3, does that mean you're using an older Ubuntu?	08:03
judgen	no 9.10	08:05
judgen	im still using kde3 and kde4 in paralell.	08:05
judgen	when i launch kdm4 i just choose wich session i want.	08:05
judgen	kde3 is installed in /opt/kde3 whilst kde4 is installed in the regular location.	08:07
et_	Okay, let me see if I understand: you installed 9.10 (comes with KDE 4.3), you then install KDE3 (from source?), update kdm, and now get a console logon?	08:08
judgen	No i installed kde3 first.	08:08
judgen	then installed kde4	08:08
judgen	does that make sense?	08:12
et_	judgen: let's try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm	08:12
et_	judgen: not really, but that's OK.	08:12
judgen	i used the official kde3 repos after installing ubuntu 9.10 via netboot.	08:13
et_	That sounds more advanced than anything I've tried.	08:15
judgen	i always use netboot, then i dont have to burn an entire cd.	08:15
et_	I use USB keys for the same reason.	08:16
Cuddletauren	is it true that kpackagekit sucks?	08:53
leif	hello. who isn't ready for Christmas yet?	08:57
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bakarat	uh, my mouse buttons stop working when i use vmware player, any suggestions?	09:06
homer-80	my wireless doesn't work, I installed wicd and it disabled network management, how can I solve with wifi?	09:06
subito	since i've upgraded to kubuntu 9.10, my boot bar is all messed up on the startup (i'm talking about the one looking like this: http://www.net-actuality.org/images/news/31-07-07_9034.png) is it a known bug of 9.10?	09:32
subito	ok, it's not a very important problem, but still :d	09:33
alveraan	Hi there. I'm having trouble with the kde4 shutdown/reboot/... button (kickoff menu). Clicking it doesn't do anything. Has anyone experienced the same problem? Does anyone know what that button actually does or if it's configurable?	09:34
Mamarok	alveraan: it works fine here, what KDE version do you have?	09:35
alveraan	Mamarok, well, it's kde 4, latest version in 9.10 stable, all upgrades applied.	09:38
Mamarok	which is KDE 4.3.2 then	09:39
Mamarok	that button should work, don't you see a small window appear in the middle of the screen?	09:39
alveraan	yes I do, but clicking it has no effect. The button disappears and the next time I try, even the "middle" window doesn't appear. poweroff command in terminal works fine	09:40
alveraan	Mamarok, I guess whatever script / command that is executed "behind the scene" hangs. If only I knew what that button does I could try to get more output or some error message using the terminal. But google doesn't help much :-(	09:47
Mamarok	alveraan: well, it shows you what you basically can see in the menu when you go on that part of it: it ask you if you want to use suspend, shutdown or reboot	09:48
Mamarok	alveraan: did you try removing the widget and put it back again?	09:49
alveraan	Mamarok, I tried to but I don't know how. The menu editor doesn't seem to offer that option.	09:51
Mamarok	you did put it in the panel, right?	09:52
Mamarok	the button I mean	09:52
Mamarok	right click on it to remove it, then click on the cashew at the extreme right and add widget again	09:52
alveraan	Mamarok, nope I'm talking about the button that it part of the kde menu	09:53
Maex	Hi!	09:53
Mamarok	oh, that is strange, I thought you wer talking about the widget	09:53
alveraan	Mamarok, the "leave" button. See here: http://www.prashanthellina.com/images/kde4_menu.gif	09:53
Mamarok	alveraan: did you ever click on that button? it should show you another menu	09:54
dihae	hello	09:55
Maex	Problem: I tried to install Kubuntu 9.10 on my Desktop PC, but there came some errors (I think) and when the GUI came up it said "ubuntu will be logged on. A hard error occured" (translated from german ^^). Now there is the login-screen, but I didn't create an user!	09:55
Maex	What's wrong there?	09:55
Mamarok	alveraan: above, where you can choose all the options	09:55
dihae	I take it that virtuoso isn't packaged yet?	09:56
Mamarok	Maex: what does it say exactly in German?	09:56
Mamarok	dihae: no, not yet	09:56
Maex	"ubuntu wird angemeldet... Es ist ein schwerer Fehler aufgetreten. Sehen sie bitte in den Protokolldateien..."	09:56
dihae	nevermind, I just found kubuntu's todo list	09:56
Mamarok	well, you need to check the log files, the error is described there	09:56
Mamarok	Maex: else, we can only guess	09:56
Maex	Where do I find them?	09:57
Mamarok	Maex: are you sure it says "angemeldet"?	09:57
alveraan	Mamarok, yes. When I click that button, the options appear above. Then, when I click on "Shutdown" nothing happens. Sorry if I didn't give enough details ;-)	09:57
Maex	Yes	09:57
Mamarok	alveraan: well, you said just shutdown button, so I assumed you were talking about the widget	09:58
Mamarok	alveraan: try adding the widget to the panel and try that	09:58
Mamarok	Maex: so while you were installing, before you even added your name for the user settings, it switched?	09:58
Maex	I placed the CD into the drive, the PC boots from the CD, I clicked "Install Kubuntu".	09:59
Maex	Wait, wait, wait	09:59
Maex	Error message --> Login window	10:00
Mamarok	Maex: the log files are all written to /var/log, but I don't think there even are any, as the user settings is done before you install something	10:00
Maex	I also was not able to set the partitions	10:00
Maex	Or to "deinstall" Windows	10:01
Mamarok	Maex: well, then something is wrong with your machine. Can you actually run the Live CD?	10:01
Maex	Mamarok: The LiveCD wants the Login, too	10:02
Maex	Perhaps I have to format the HDD first... With Knoppix or something else	10:02
Mamarok	when you start your computer with the Live CD?	10:02
alveraan	Mamarok, ok I'll try it. Thank you	10:02
Mamarok	Maex: when you start your computer with the Live CD?	10:04
Maex	Mamarok: The LiveCD wants the Login, too	10:04
Maex	But I'll try it again	10:04
Mamarok	Maex: if you start the live CD and run Kubuntu from the live CD it will not ask for any login entries	10:05
Mamarok	else you have a very strange CD	10:05
Maex	Now the CD is tested	10:06
Mamarok	Maex: also, it's pointless to use Knoppix, it is just another Live CD and would install Knoppix instead, doesn't make much sense	10:06
Mamarok	Maex: well, start Kubuntu from that CD, without installing	10:06
Maex	Ok, I'll try	10:06
Mamarok	if it doesn't run, then you have a serious hardware problem	10:06
Maex	"Check finished: errors found in 1 file!"	10:07
Maex	That could be the problem	10:08
shadeslayer	Maex: i think you should rewrite the CD	10:08
Maex	Search for a new blank CD	10:09
shadeslayer	Maex: cant you boot off a USB?	10:09
Maex	hmm, nice idea ;)	10:11
shadeslayer	Maex: its a pretty good option :P	10:11
Maex	Do I have to set something in the BIOS?	10:11
Maex	Or how does my PC know it?	10:11
shadeslayer	Maex: yeah set the primary boot device to USB	10:12
shadeslayer	Maex: booting off the USB should be supported by your BIOS though....	10:12
Maex	kk	10:12
* Maex searches an USB Stick		10:12
Maex	hmm... i have to download Kubuntu again,right?	10:16
Maex	I still have the .iso	10:16
Maex	Alternate i386?	10:16
Mamarok	!usb	10:16
ubottu	For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent	10:16
Mamarok	Maex: see here	10:16
Maex	RTFM, Maex...	10:17
Maex	Stupid noob ^^	10:17
Mamarok	you said that :)	10:17
Maex	right	10:17
Mamarok	Maex: keep in mind that we can't read for you, so if we recopy that information it would be the same as sending you to the right place	10:18
shadeslayer	Maex: btw if youre on windows i would recommend unetbootin....	10:19
Maex	I like the way with the virtual drive...	10:20
shadeslayer	Mamarok: btw i think the kde beta 2 packages hit the kubuntu ppa repo :)	10:20
Mamarok	shadeslayer: well, as long as it is not officially announce on the website, it doesn't exist for the user, that should be the rule	10:21
shadeslayer	Mamarok: hmm...	10:21
Mamarok	I am sick of debugging people who install from staging that explicitelx says "DO NOT INSTALL"	10:21
Mamarok	so stick to the rules, advertising before the team has said so is simply lame	10:22
lovre	hi all. need some help. When trying to install package 'pstocanonbj' (it doesnt really matter what for), i get the following message: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: pstocanonbj: Depends: libcupsys2 (>= 1.2.3)".... So now i try to install libcupsys2 but it says: "Package libcupsys2 is a virtual package provided by: libcups2 1.4.1-5ubuntu2.1"	10:22
lovre	So what is this all about, if libcups2 is at latest version	10:22
Mamarok	lovre: then try installing the last package mentioned ^^	10:22
Mamarok	sudo apt-get install libcups2	10:23
lovre	Mamarok: i did, it says its at latest version:::?	10:23
Mamarok	oh, you didn't say that :)	10:23
Mamarok	sorry, my bad, didn't see your last line	10:23
lovre	what could be the problem	10:24
Mamarok	lovre: where did you get that package pstocanonbj from?	10:24
shadeslayer	lovre: i cant find the package you say in the repo	10:24
Mamarok	neither can I	10:24
lovre	shadeslayer: yes, its custom package, i have followed this to install my printer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=487890&highlight=ip1500	10:24
shadeslayer	lovre: um... theres no karmic at the end of the repo... not sure that if its a requirement or not :P	10:26
lovre	shadeslayer: i dont think so. Anyway, when i do sudo apt-get update, it gets stuck at 94% while trying to acces archive.getdeb.net,,,,,,?	10:26
shadeslayer	lovre: same here :)	10:27
lovre	shadeslayer: so that has nothing to do with this?	10:27
lovre	shadeslayer: maybe just the server getdeb is down	10:27
shadeslayer	lovre: nope...	10:27
lovre	?	10:27
lovre	shadeslayer: so what do i do...	10:27
shadeslayer	lovre: the repo in the forums is a http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp repo not a getdeb repo	10:27
lovre	shadeslayer: ye	10:27
lovre	shadeslayer: hmm. so what now	10:28
shadeslayer	lovre: lemme think :)	10:28
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shadeslayer	lovre: post no. 7	10:28
lovre	shadeslayer: can i check if my version of libcupsys2 is >= 1.2.3, and if not, look into upgrading	10:28
shadeslayer	lovre: yeah : apt-cache policy libcupsys2	10:29
lovre	shadeslayer: oops: Installed: (none)	10:30
shadeslayer	lovre: ><	10:30
lovre	shadeslayer: could it be cups is not installed?	10:30
shadeslayer	lovre: yes!!!	10:30
shadeslayer	lovre: install libcupsys2 with : sudo apt-get install libcupsys2	10:30
lovre	i allready did that, error: Package libcupsys2 is a virtual package provided by: libcups2 1.4.1-5ubuntu2.1	10:31
lovre	shadeslayer: ^	10:31
shadeslayer	lovre:one sec	10:32
shadeslayer	lovre: um i can install it just fine :)	10:32
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lovre	shadeslayer: :ooo	10:32
lovre	shadeslayer: when i try it says: You should explicitly select one to install.... i would, but how?	10:33
shadeslayer	lovre: enable the karmic security and updates	10:33
shadeslayer	+repos	10:33
shadeslayer	lovre: it says :500 http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic-security/main Packages : so its in security	10:34
lovre	erm, how do i enable that?	10:34
lovre	shadeslayer: ^	10:34
shadeslayer	lovre: well edit you sources and uncomment the security update repo	10:34
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lovre	shadeslayer: well, its all already uncommented	10:37
shadeslayer	lovre: hmm.... whats the complete output of apt-cache policy libcupsys2	10:37
lovre	libcupsys2:	10:38
lovre	Installed: (none)	10:38
lovre	Candidate: (none)	10:38
lovre	Version table:	10:38
FloodBotK3	lovre: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	10:38
lovre	oops	10:38
shadeslayer	lovre: :o candidate none ?	10:38
lovre	shadeslayer: thats what it says	10:38
lovre	shadeslayer: :(	10:39
shadeslayer	that is very weird.... what release are you on?	10:39
lovre	shadeslayer: kubuntu 9.10	10:40
shadeslayer	lovre: ok,pastebin your sources please	10:41
lovre	shadeslayer: second	10:41
lovre	shadeslayer: http://pastie.org/752929	10:42
lovre	shadeslayer: can i maybe download libcupsys2 as a installation file or something	10:42
shadeslayer	lovre: i think youre missing sources	10:45
lovre	:o	10:45
lovre	shadeslayer: maybe you could give me your sources to fill in	10:45
shadeslayer	lovre: best way : http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/	10:46
rd1381	is there any desktop search tool that can search in my tags that i give to files in dolphin?	10:46
lovre	shadeslayer: what is this	10:46
shadeslayer	pretty awesome sire	10:46
lovre	shadeslayer: ah	10:46
shadeslayer	lovre: repo generator	10:46
lovre	shadeslayer: cool :D	10:46
shadeslayer	rd1381: nepomuk	10:46
lovre	shadeslayer: should i check everything?	10:47
shadeslayer	rd1381: just press alt+F2 and type the tag name	10:47
rd1381	shadeslayer:nepomuk is not a search client	10:47
rd1381	and i use gnome	10:47
rd1381	but want to be able to use dolphin tags	10:47
shadeslayer	lovre: i think its best if you replace the complete list by the one generated	10:47
lovre	shadeslayer: i see, ok, one minute	10:47
shadeslayer	rd1381: i dont know if thats even possible.... i lost all my tags when i reinstalled so...	10:48
rd1381	shadeslayer: do you know where tags are stored?	10:48
shadeslayer	rd1381: nope	10:48
shadeslayer	rd1381: probably a nepomuk database somewhere in ~	10:49
rd1381	ok	10:49
subitoo	i have a problem with the boot splash screen (i think it's uplash): the display is all 'buggy'	10:49
rd1381	i run nepomuk service in gnome and i am able to tag files but sop far i cant use strigi	10:49
rd1381	it says indexing and documents index is -1	10:50
shadeslayer	lovre: http://pastebin.com/f5bf3570a << my sources	10:50
lovre	shadeslayer: how do i add theese GPG keys?	10:50
Peace-	!gpg	10:51
ubottu	gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts	10:51
shadeslayer	lovre:there should be instructions,something like wget	10:51
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lovre	shadeslayer: ok, thank you alot! I have to go now, but will be back later.... Thank again	10:52
subitoo	hi, where is stored the yakuake history?	10:54
cuznt	!yakuake	10:56
subitoo	cuznt: it's ok actually is .bash_history	10:56
subitoo	it's*	10:57
Maex	USB-device doesn't work... -.-	10:59
subitoo	my ctrl+r command doesn't work anymore in the konsole, does someone have an idea?	10:59
shadeslayer	Maex: whats the problem	10:59
mouna	CIAO	11:00
Maex	Set the boot device to USB in the BIOS, but error comes up	11:00
shadeslayer	Maex: whats the exact error?	11:00
Maex	Have to look again... w8 plz	11:01
shadeslayer	Maex: ok :)	11:01
shadeslayer	Maex: idk how long i can IRC more though :P	11:02
shankly	hi all, today I want to polemize. Why for opensuse, fedora and even gentoo, are avalaible kde 4.4 beta 2 packages and for ubuntu we have to wait every time 2 weeks???? why is kubuntu considered like a kids game??	11:02
shadeslayer	shankly: ah you may not know but 4.4 packages just hit the repos... im upgrading right now	11:03
Maex	White on black: "Boot Failure. Reboot and Select proper Boot device or insert Boot Media in selected Boot device. Press any key when ready"	11:03
shadeslayer	shankly: 4:4.3.85-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa2	11:03
shadeslayer	Maex: hmm... how did you create the USB>	11:04
Maex	UNetbootin	11:04
shankly	shadeslayer: i'm happy for that, and I apologize.	11:04
shadeslayer	hmm... did you select the correct ISO? like 32 bit or 64 bit?	11:04
Maex	Yes	11:04
Maex	Formatting to FAT should not be the problem, right?	11:05
shadeslayer	Maex: it should be fat...	11:05
Maex	ok	11:05
shadeslayer	Maex: try writing the USB again...	11:05
shadeslayer	Maex: if it doesnt work md5sum the iso	11:05
Maex	:-\| ok	11:05
shadeslayer	Maex: this can take a few tries :P	11:06
shankly	shadeslayer: but every time I read on kde.org "Packages for opensuse,fedora..... are avalaible", and I don't see kubuntu in the list I'm frustrated	11:06
shadeslayer	shankly: take it out in kde then... we dont have control over kde.org :P	11:06
shadeslayer	#kde i mean	11:06
shadeslayer	shankly: and frankly whether or not kubuntu is on that list hardly matters	11:07
shankly	shadeslayer: So, I can join the kde channell and say that are avalaible beta 2 packages?	11:07
shadeslayer	shankly: well not officially no	11:08
shadeslayer	shankly: i said they hit the repo... no official announcements	11:08
shadeslayer	shankly: frankly im taking a risk by upgrading :P	11:08
shadeslayer	brb	11:09
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Mamarok	shadeslayer: wrong target	11:11
subitoo	i have a problem with the boot splash screen (i think it's uplash): the display is all 'buggy'; Have someone solved this problem?	11:11
shadeslayer	Mamarok: eh?	11:11
Mamarok	shankly: it is a Beta release, not meant for productive use	11:11
Mamarok	shankly: just be patient, once our poor nijias get around packaging everything (rememebr they do voluntary work and are not payed for that) you will get those packages	11:12
shadeslayer	Mamarok: hes arguing that kubuntu should be mentioned along side other distros in the kde 4,4 beta 2 announcement	11:12
Mamarok	it really makes no difference if you get those today or tomorrow, it is beta anyway	11:12
shadeslayer	yep	11:12
Mamarok	shadeslayer: well, if the packages are not ready, you can hardly advertise them	11:13
shadeslayer	and its a increase of only .05	11:13
shadeslayer	Mamarok: yes thats what i told him.. its not official	11:13
Mamarok	so there is really nothing the KDE people can do about that	11:14
Mamarok	all distros with packages ready that day are mentioned, usually	11:15
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shankly	Mamarok: I know It's not for productive use, but only for testing	11:15
shadeslayer	moreover suse has more people on KDE than kubuntu... so more community support there	11:15
Mamarok	shankly: well, if you like testing, then you did the first step to become a packager :)	11:18
shadeslayer	Mamarok: btw amarok from git doesnt like scripts alot :P	11:19
Mamarok	shadeslayer: you put it the wrong way again: scripts are 3rd party, if their authors don't keep up with our pace, their problem	11:20
Mamarok	shadeslayer: but that doesn't belong here anyway	11:20
Maex	Now: Next try	11:20
shadeslayer	Mamarok: of course	11:20
shadeslayer	Maex:so did it boot?	11:21
Maex	USB-Stick is ready again	11:21
shadeslayer	Mamarok: btw anyway to md5sum a USB stick ? :P	11:21
Mamarok	shadeslayer: you can run md5 checksums on everything, it jut doesn't make sense if it is not an iso	11:22
Mamarok	just*	11:23
Mamarok	not in this context	11:23
shadeslayer	ah..	11:23
DEac-	moin moin	11:23
Maex	Same error	11:23
Maex	T_T	11:23
shadeslayer	Maex: i have no idea.... :(	11:24
shadeslayer	Maex: see the link !usb gave you	11:25
DEac-	i've a problem with my screensaver (kubuntu 9.10, kde4 ofcourse): everytime it doesn't accept my password	11:26
Maex	Yes, I looked it up, but do you think that will help?	11:26
shadeslayer	Maex: btw you have set the primary boot device to USB right?	11:26
Maex	Of course	11:26
shadeslayer	Maex: yes	11:26
Maex	Perhaps I should try the good old CD-method	11:27
shadeslayer	Maex: ok one last thing... try pressing F12 and select the USB	11:27
shadeslayer	(during reboot	11:27
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Peace-	not every usb flash card are good for booting	11:27
DEac-	this line, i read in my auth-log: Dec 22 10:46:35 Cadmium dbus-daemon: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.21" (uid=1000 pid=2003 comm="kdeinit4: plasma-desktop [kdeinit]") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable" member="Introspect" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination=":1.316" (uid=0 pid=1846 comm="/bin/login))	11:27
DEac-	nobody any idea, what's the reason of my problem?	11:29
wotan	hi, i heard you are trying to replace konqueror as default browser in the next release, did you think about use chromium? or do you prefer a kde/qt app?	11:31
Maex	The USB is away again... I'll try it next time with CD	11:31
shadeslayer	wotan: i think itll be a KDE app... rekonq is a good contendet	11:31
Maex	Thnx for your help!	11:31
shadeslayer	*contender	11:31
shadeslayer	Maex: hope you get it working :)	11:31
wotan	shadeslayer: maybe a chromium fork with a qt GUI? :)	11:31
Maex	Never give it up ^^	11:32
shadeslayer	wotan: hmm.. if someone can develop one	11:32
shadeslayer	firefox+kde was a fail though :P	11:32
wotan	yeah	11:32
wotan	but i think right now it's the best browser in linux, and a lot of people would like it as default browser	11:33
shadeslayer	yep	11:33
DEac-	rekonq is nice	11:35
shadeslayer	DEac-: which version are you using?	11:35
DEac-	shadeslayer: kubuntu 9.10 ;)	11:36
shadeslayer	DEac-: which rekonq version?	11:36
DEac-	shadeslayer: i only installed it via aptitude and start one time	11:36
shadeslayer	DEac-: do you have kubuntu backports?	11:37
DEac-	no	11:37
shadeslayer	ah.. youre on 0.2.... 0.3 is much much better	11:37
DEac-	ok	11:37
DEac-	backports?	11:37
shadeslayer	DEac-: yeah... kubuntu backports	11:38
DEac-	ok	11:38
DEac-	rekonq 0.2 doesn't know shortcuts	11:39
shadeslayer	DEac-: cookie management is bad too... cant open gmail and stuff	11:40
DEac-	i hope backports aren't so unstable	11:41
shadeslayer	DEac-: nope theyre pretty stable	11:41
shadeslayer	DEac-: you can compile 0.3 if you like	11:42
subitoo	i have a problem with the boot splash screen (i think it's uplash): the display is all 'buggy'; Have someone solved this problem?	11:42
DEac-	and i hope, it resolves my problem with screensaver	11:42
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subitoo	is there a way to change the output sound of qsynth?	11:48
maek0	how to install KDE 4.4 beta 2 so its separate to my GNOME DE ??	11:57
shadeslayer_	maek0: just install : kubuntu-desktop	11:59
maek0	yeah but it puts all the KDE software in my gnome menu .. I don't want that .. I remember testing out KDE 4 when it first came out and there was a way of installing it in /opt/ or something	12:00
shadeslayer_	no idea on that	12:02
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ghostcube	hmm, is the possibility to cancle services in karmic again ossible by sudo /etc/init.d/foobar stop start restart	12:19
wsjunior	anybody got webcam working with kopete and msn protocol?	12:43
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vzduch	!anybody	12:46
ubottu	A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	12:46
millun	ok, how to make Pulseaudio work?	12:48
millun	again	12:48
millun	you know, when trying to play mp3 in amarok, it complains about going back to some default audio device.... from nvidia digital to nvidia analog	12:49
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ladywillow	hi guys, I've got a problem with kubuntu 8.10. I've inserted an audio cd on my cd drive, but I can't listen to it... please help me	12:57
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dariom	ladywillow: what kind of program are you trying to use to listen to it?	13:02
ladywillow	vlc or amarok	13:02
dariom	ladywillow: does it happen with every audio cd?	13:03
ladywillow	dariom: yes, and it happens with dvds, too.	13:04
millun	sounds like pulseaudio fucked up on you, too	13:04
Maex	Guys: New tests!	13:05
dariom	ladywillow: audio is working right?	13:05
Maex	I tried to reinstall WinXP	13:05
Maex	Didn't work: "Boot Failure..." The same as booting from USB	13:05
ladywillow	dariom: no, I can't hear mp3 or anything else	13:06
dariom	ladywillow: ah, ok, so basically your audio seems not to work	13:06
ladywillow	dariom: yes, you got it	13:06
dariom	ladywillow: do you have the kmix applet?	13:07
dariom	on your kde desktop?	13:07
ladywillow	dariom: I don't think so	13:07
dariom	ladywillow: ok, so ALT+F2, and write KMix	13:08
rysiek\|pl	hi guys	13:08
Maex	Mamarok?	13:08
dariom	ladywillow: done?	13:08
Mamarok	Maex: ?	13:09
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Maex	Did you read my lines? Any idea?	13:09
ladywillow	dariom: yes, I saw the KMix icon	13:09
Mamarok	Maex: about the boot failure? Yes	13:09
Mamarok	and no, I have no idea, didn't install Windows in ages	13:10
Mamarok	Maex: when does it say "Boot failure"?	13:10
dariom	ladywillow: ok, now make sure to raise all your volume controls	13:10
Maex	When it tries to boot from the CD	13:11
dariom	ladywillow: you find all of them in the "mixer" area	13:11
Mamarok	Maex: are your BIOS settings correct?	13:11
Maex	Until now everything worked good	13:11
ladywillow	dariom: done	13:11
dariom	ladywillow: was it there any at 0%?	13:12
ladywillow	dariom: but I think it's important to show you this message:	13:12
dariom	ladywillow: also, make sure you don't have any channel to "mute"	13:13
ladywillow	mount: dispositivo a blocchi /dev/scd0 è protetto da scrittura, viene montato in sola lettura	13:13
ladywillow	dariom: it means, that my device is protected from writing	13:13
Cuddletauren	audio cd playback is deprecated	13:15
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BluesKaj	Howdy	13:29
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funcrush	I wanna rotate all windows with alt+tab, but i can't, i just rotate windows in a screen, anybody help me?	13:53
dariom	funcrush: what do you mean by rotate?	13:54
funcrush	dariom: sorry my english is poor,	13:54
dariom	funcrush: pass between an application to another?	13:54
funcrush	hm....	13:54
Vroomfondle	funcrush: System Settings -> Window Behavior	13:55
funcrush	yup	13:55
Vroomfondle	then click "Traverse Windows On All Desktops" uner "Window Switching"	13:55
Vroomfondle	*under	13:55
funcrush	Vroomfondle: wow thanks!!!!	13:55
funcrush	dariom, Vroomfondle: thank you for ur helping! :)	13:56
Vroomfondle	no problem :)	13:58
pabloz	hi guys, can anybody tell me how can I remove hebrew (wtf?), and the English flavors that I don't intend to use from the system? (default English installation), is it possible?	14:01
pabloz	btw: karmic	14:01
mime	hi all, when i vonect mu nfts hdd usb drive only makes noise and cant open it, but detected. in xp works, had make scandisck an cheched for errors. any idea? thnx	14:04
Maex	shadeslayer?	14:07
shadeslayer	Maex: yes?	14:07
Maex	you helped me, right?	14:07
Maex	^^	14:07
shadeslayer	kind of yeah :P	14:07
Maex	I tried to reinstall WinXP, but the error came uo again	14:08
Maex	*up	14:08
shadeslayer	Maex: win XP?	14:09
Maex	Yes, just to see where the problem is. And so it is not the USB and not the Win-CD	14:10
mime	hi all, when i conect my nfts hdd usb drive only makes noise and cant open it, but detected. in xp works, had make scandisck an cheched for errors. any idea? thnx	14:11
shadeslayer	Maex: hmm... so nothing is booting?	14:17
Maex	the HDD does	14:17
shadeslayer	Maex: i mean no OS?	14:18
Maex	No OS from the CD or USB. WinXP is still installed on the HDD	14:18
shadeslayer	Maex: hmm... so Win XP boots?	14:19
Maex	yep	14:19
shadeslayer	Maex: btw in order to boot the CD you have to set the primary boot device to CD	14:20
Maex	I know ;)	14:20
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shadeslayer	Maex: hmm so neither the CD nor the USB is booting...	14:21
Maex	Right	14:21
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shadeslayer	Maex: same error from CD as well?	14:22
Maex	Yep	14:22
shadeslayer	Maex: did you md5sum the ISO?	14:22
shadeslayer	!md5sum \| Maex	14:22
ubottu	Maex: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows	14:22
Maex	I'll read it	14:23
shadeslayer	Maex: the download is probably corrupted or something	14:23
Maex	shadeslayer: Everything ok	14:29
Maex	With the ISO	14:29
shadeslayer	Maex: the md5sums match?	14:29
Maex	yeah	14:29
shadeslayer	Maex: btw you have which CD?	14:34
Maex	what do you mean	14:34
Maex	?	14:34
shadeslayer	Maex: alternate or the normal CD?	14:35
Maex	normal	14:36
theking	merhaba	14:37
shadeslayer	Maex: hmm.... ok try and mount the CD in windows with daemon tools and try the wubi install,then use the usb creator in wubi to create a bootable USB and try booting off the USB	14:38
Maex	So I can use the USB Creator on my Ubuntu Laptop? ^^	14:39
subitoo	how can i use my sound for other apps when qsynth is started?	14:47
reagleBRKLN	does this URL cause anyone else's Konq to overload the CPUs? http://rpy.sourceforge.net/index.html	14:48
DEac-	shadeslayer: kde 4.4 beta is really unstable on my machine. i'll remove backports	14:49
soee	hi	15:07
ghostcube	!upstart	15:17
ubottu	Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model. For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/	15:17
ghostcube	ok now whats the corrct syntax to start stop services in karmic and up	15:18
ghostcube	sudo service foo stop	15:18
ghostcube	or sudo foo stop	15:18
ghostcube	*stop foo	15:19
llutz	sudo service foo stop	15:19
ghostcube	thx :)	15:19
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dondino_	hello	15:39
dondino_	I need some help.. who can try to help me?	15:39
dondino_	I have installed Ubuntu 9.10 for the first time today. I played with it some time.. then I said.. its not the one I want. Some people suggested me to pass to Kubuntu, and see if KDE fits better for me.. and they made me issue a command from the console : "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop". I issued that command from the 9.10 consolle, and it started to download packages, and then install..all in console. At one point it stoppe	15:40
shadeslayer	dondino_: yes and?	15:40
dondino_	how come it starts with the terminal?	15:40
shadeslayer	dondino_: have you dropped to a shell?	15:40
dondino_	i dont see menus.. taskbar...	15:40
dondino_	anything.	15:40
shadeslayer	dondino_: oh has everything installed?	15:41
dondino_	I dont know.... thats why i asked... maybe something went wrong?	15:41
osos	have logged out from ubuntu?	15:41
dondino_	its normal that kubuntu starts with just aterminal window?	15:41
shadeslayer	dondino_: whats the out put of the terminal now?	15:41
shadeslayer	dondino_: no just logout and choose KDE	15:41
dondino_	the prompt is the name of my pc	15:42
dondino_	with the dollar	15:42
dondino_	its right	15:42
dondino_	if i exit the terminal	15:42
dondino_	it brings again to the login screen	15:42
shadeslayer	dondino_: ok cool just logout and press alt+F10 and choose kde and login back	15:42
dondino_	ok wait	15:42
shadeslayer	dondino_: btw did you choose kdm or gdm during the kde install?	15:43
dondino_	if i press alt + f10 in the welcome login screen	15:43
dondino_	nothing happens	15:43
dondino_	i chosed KDM	15:43
dondino_	during the installation thru console	15:43
shadeslayer	dondino_: good :)	15:44
dondino_	i tried to click in the little button	15:44
shadeslayer	dondino_: there should be 2 buttons at the bottom	15:44
dondino_	at the bottom right	15:44
shadeslayer	yes	15:44
dondino_	in the login screen.. and clicked KDE	15:44
dondino_	now it started	15:45
shadeslayer	yep..	15:45
dondino_	but	15:45
shadeslayer	dondino_: welcome to KDE :P	15:45
dondino_	there's still the console window open	15:45
dondino_	is it normal?	15:45
FloodBotK3	dondino_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	15:45
shadeslayer	dondino_: can you imagebin a screenshot?	15:45
dondino_	now i'm on windows pc	15:45
shadeslayer	dondino_: eh?	15:45
dondino_	i have the kubuntu pc beside me	15:45
shadeslayer	dondino_: ah... ok do you see anything other than the konsole?	15:46
dondino_	yes in the background there's an uBlog window.. with configure button	15:46
dondino_	then I finally can see the taskbar... etc .. and also a desktop folder	15:46
shadeslayer	dondino_: ok you have KDE.. there should be a taskbar at the bottom	15:46
dondino_	but now, everytime i start up the computer, i always have to choose KDE before logging?	15:47
shadeslayer	dondino_: um by default you should log into KDE	15:47
dondino_	lets see, i try to reboot it	15:47
shadeslayer	dondino_: ok	15:47
shadeslayer	btw is there another power management backend in the repos?	15:48
dondino_	yes	15:49
dondino_	now KDE starts by default! but.. can you tell me how can I automatically hide the start of the terminal window at boot, I dont want it...	15:49
dany	oi	15:49
shadeslayer	dondino_: hmm well just close it :P	15:50
dany	hey	15:50
shadeslayer	it wont start next time	15:50
shadeslayer	dany: yes	15:50
dondino_	lol.. so easy??	15:50
pabloz	sorry, is "hebrew" part of the english language pack? (system spellchecker)	15:50
shadeslayer	yeah'	15:50
pabloz	shadeslayer: sorry was that answer for me?	15:51
shadeslayer	pabloz: no :P	15:52
pabloz	ah, ok	15:52
dondino_	shadeslayer, another question... I tried to logout and choose GNOME. But now a windows comes up says i have to inster a password to unlock the ... carry-key or something like that.. if i put the user's password it doesnt work	15:55
pabloz	ok, if anyone knows / finds some way to remove unused languages from the spellchecker [Hebrew, English (South Africa), ...] while keeping others [English, English (United States of America)], please let me know	15:55
shadeslayer	pabloz: remove the language packs?	15:56
pabloz	shadeslayer: how?	15:57
vit	"·di$	15:57
shadeslayer	pabloz: sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-he	15:57
pabloz	is not installed	15:57
shadeslayer	pabloz: thats for hebrew.. find out the rest on your own :P..	15:58
shadeslayer	pabloz: logout and log in again	15:58
pabloz	that's the point...	15:58
shadeslayer	dondino_: no idea	15:58
shadeslayer	pabloz: and run kbuildsycoca4	15:58
shadeslayer	pabloz: also remove language-pack-kde-he-base	15:58
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pabloz	shadeslayer_: $ sudo aptitude show language-pack-kde-he-base language-support-he language-support-he\|grep State	16:02
pabloz	State: not installed	16:02
pabloz	State: not installed	16:02
pabloz	State: not installed	16:02
FloodBotK3	pabloz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	16:02
Panasonic1988	Just wait until rain turn to sunshine,cause I hate to spend, my life, my life, my life, my life	16:05
Panasonic1988	Duckin one-time!!Lost Soul!!	16:05
dondino_	are there any other alternatives between KDE and GNOME?	16:06
maco	sure!	16:06
maco	xfce (xubuntu)	16:06
maco	lxde (lubuntu)	16:06
dondino_	can u tell me how can i add also xubuntu directly from the terminal console? (to download and install packages automatically?)	16:06
maco	or you can go the route of not quite a desktop environment but rather a window manager and then you mix & match your applications... ex: enlightenment, fluxbox, icewm	16:07
maco	sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop	16:07
dondino_	no.. I have just made a plain install of ubuntu 9.10 and then added kubuntu... and now.. oh thanks, i try :)	16:07
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dondino_	abd for ...lubuntu is "sudo aptitude install lubuntu-desktop" ?	16:08
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dondino_	is it then possible to install something else? :)	16:10
shadeslayer_	dondino_: yeah... theres X11,pekwm,icewm etc	16:10
shadeslayer_	!desktop	16:11
ubottu	A desktop environment is what "puts the pieces of a !GUI together". The available desktop environments in Ubuntu are !GNOME (ubuntu-desktop), !KDE (kubuntu-desktop), !Xfce (xubuntu-desktop), IceWM, !Fluxbox, WindowMaker (wmaker), FVWM and others - See also !Flavors	16:11
dondino_	which is the most complete graphical interface? KDE?	16:11
shadeslayer_	dondino_: its your choice ;P	16:11
dondino_	I would like something as close as possible to my old windows :( i miss it	16:12
shadeslayer_	dondino_: old windows?	16:13
* genii ponders WFW 3.11		16:13
shadeslayer_	dondino_: well you can make KDE look like Win 7	16:13
dondino_	yeah I am not supposed to use windows xp anymore...	16:13
shadeslayer_	genii: hehe...	16:13
millun	what do you do when you can't get rid of kscreenlocker?	16:13
dondino_	shadeslayer, is there a package or something?	16:13
maco	pkill kscrenlocker	16:13
maco	er...	16:13
maco	pkill kscreenlocker	16:14
millun	well, sure thing. but will there EVER be a fix?	16:14
maco	thats how i get back into my computer when it starts rejecting the proper password (which is unfortunately quite common)	16:14
shadeslayer_	dondino_: no just customizations	16:14
maco	hopefully :)	16:14
millun	yes, maco. it is VERY common	16:14
millun	happens on daily / hourly basis	16:14
millun	:)	16:14
millun	and what about "falling back to <foo> sound device" problem? will there EVER be a fix to this? or should i really remove pulseaudio or what	16:15
shadeslayer_	dondino_: just add the smooth tasks plasmoid to the taskbar,use the glassified theme and some plugins in the desktop settings such as highlight window and voila!	16:15
maco	millun: i think thats just a stupid error message	16:16
maco	millun: if you put pulseaudio at the top instead of the bottom, you shouldnt get it though :)	16:16
millun	how do you fix that?	16:16
millun	ok	16:16
shadeslayer_	btw is there some other power management daemon for KDE?	16:16
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shadeslayer	my brightness increases and decreases in steps of 2 :P	16:17
maco	millun: in systemsettings, go to multimedia and put pulseaudio at the top of all the lists	16:17
dondino_	would be possible to install DEBIAN or anthoer distro right directly from Ubuntu and choose which one to start with?	16:17
maco	millun: then itll prefer pulseaudio instead of "falling back" from direct hardware mode to pulseaudio mode	16:17
maco	dondino_: afaik, debian only has a from-windows installer	16:17
dondino_	and other distros?	16:18
millun	cheeers	16:18
millun	maco	16:18
maco	dondino_: thats up to the distro whether they have a way to install from a different distro	16:18
shadeslayer	dondino_: nah i dont think thats possible but you can boot off the ISO's of those distros with grub2	16:19
maco	dondino_: i know debian can be installed from windows using goodbyemicrosoft.com (i think thts the url)	16:19
maco	well there IS lubi	16:19
maco	so it is possible	16:19
maco	lubi is the linux counterpart to wubi	16:19
dondino_	yes but i make you an example. I used to have a pc which could boot in 3 different ways: XP PRO - win 2003 - VISTA	16:19
maco	but i dont know what distros have used it	16:19
dondino_	would be possible to make the same with LINUX and different distros?	16:19
maco	yes of course you can triple boot	16:20
maco	just saying i dont think you can do the installation from within ubuntu. youd still need to boot from a cd	16:20
maco	or a flash drive if your computer can do that	16:20
dondino_	ahh... that way yes...	16:20
dondino_	i installed xubuntu but... its Xfce in the menu now?	16:21
shadeslayer	dondino_: yep	16:21
shadeslayer	anyone know how to use powerdevil daemon?	16:21
dondino_	i would answer but...	16:23
dondino_	your questions are too complicate :P	16:23
shadeslayer	dondino_: hehe... :)	16:23
Tm_T	shadeslayer: you click on buttons (;	16:23
shadeslayer	Tm_T: the problem is when i start power devil my brightness goes wonky.... increases in 2 steps,when i stop it,its fine	16:24
shadeslayer	ah its in kdebase	16:24
dondino_	hmmm when I try to install also Lubuntu, this time it says it has to remove some dependancies, and packets.. like for example network.-manager gnome and plasma widget network management...	16:25
dondino_	Will I have then problems.. using gnome?	16:25
shadeslayer	dondino_: maybe	16:26
dondino_	yeah it says that xubuntu recommends those packets..	16:26
dondino_	and points are -412..	16:26
maco	lubuntu might not use network manager	16:27
maco	id go with not removing them	16:27
dondino_	if i try other solutions..	16:27
dondino_	they are even worse..	16:27
dondino_	-9712 points	16:27
dondino_	better not install.........	16:28
shadeslayer	dondino_: its better not to mess about alot of things	16:30
dondino_	right,	16:31
dondino_	anyway i find xubuntu nice as interface,	16:31
dondino_	I will use it for a while..till i learn something	16:31
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fa4anaheim	I can't get the sound to work on my computer...	16:46
fa4anaheim	I can't get the sound to work on my computer...	16:58
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rossini	ciao	17:16
rossini	ciao	17:17
rossini	ciao	17:17
progmanos	Hmm...the beta builds of Kde SC 4.4 Beta 1 for Kubuntu only have the Folders and Desktop containments.	17:24
progmanos	It's missing quite a few other containments	17:24
rossini	ubu	17:39
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soee	any ideas how can i set my sound to 5.1 ?	17:45
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estres	#ubuntu-es	17:47
estres	#supremos	17:47
estres	#kde-es	17:48
estres	#debian-es	17:48
progmanos	the beta packages of kde sc 4.4 are missing the search containment and newspaper containment	17:48
progmanos	i'm thinking about recompiling the packages myself and uploading them to my ppa	17:49
progmanos	it annoys me that other distros have these features enabled and kubuntu doesn't	17:50
JontheEchidna	progmanos: install plasma-netbook :/	17:52
JontheEchidna	We had these features before any distro ever did, we even dedicated resources to an entire netbook remix for Kubuntu 9.10	17:52
progmanos	so, those features are solely for netbooks?	17:54
JontheEchidna	they can be used on desktop computers too, but they are mainly components of the Plasma Netbook shell	17:55
FloodBotK3	!netsplit	18:05
ubottu	netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit	18:05
rasmus	sker der	18:06
progmanos	!ubottu	18:13
ubottu	Hi! I'm #kubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi - Usage info: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBots	18:13
alexandernst	Has anyone upgraded to kde 4.4beta2 ?	18:14
alexandernst	I want to upgrade but I get a warning that 6 packages will be removed and 2 wont get updated	18:15
progmanos	!botsnack	18:15
ubottu	Yum! Err, I mean, APT!	18:15
EvilRoey	hello	18:17
danielsp	Hello!	18:17
EvilRoey	Anyone here trying out the KDE 4.4 beta2?	18:17
EvilRoey	oh hey!!	18:17
danielsp	No, I'm 4.3	18:17
danielsp	sry	18:17
EvilRoey	Steely Dan, what's up :)	18:17
EvilRoey	ah	18:17
EvilRoey	I tried, it didn't work (no startkde found) and now I want to go back to kde 4.3	18:17
EvilRoey	4.3.4	18:17
EvilRoey	only that I don't know how	18:18
* EvilRoey scratches head.		18:18
progmanos	EvilRoey: it works fine for me.	18:18
EvilRoey	progmanos: really? I have dependency issues here:	18:18
gorgonizer	working well here too, seems a lot more stable than 4.4 B1..	18:19
EvilRoey	http://pastebin.com/m2563736	18:19
EvilRoey	I know it's some sort of deps issue	18:19
danielsp	how can I upgrae to 4.4 ?	18:19
EvilRoey	I don't think I ahve all the packages installed.	18:19
EvilRoey	danielsp: better to wait till it comes out in February	18:20
danielsp	:(	18:20
EvilRoey	hrm	18:20
EvilRoey	EagleSn: sadeagle??	18:20
EvilRoey	Maks?	18:20
EagleSn	EvilRoey: what?	18:21
progmanos	EvilRoey, try upgrading your current packages first.	18:21
EvilRoey	EagleSn: nm	18:21
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EvilRoey	progmanos: I tried, it says they're all their latest version	18:21
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progmanos	EvilRoey: post the output in a pastebin	18:22
progmanos	and post your sources.list	18:23
FloodBotK3	!netsplit	18:23
ubottu	netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit	18:23
danielsp	I can't use Kpackage to install updates on my system. I receive a message that no network found	18:24
danielsp	but everyday I get the new bug warnings and update warnings	18:25
EvilRoey	progmanos: ok:	18:26
EvilRoey	progmanos: http://pastebin.com/m2563736	18:26
EvilRoey	progmanos: http://pastebin.com/m58680a3a	18:27
EvilRoey	the second is the sources.list	18:27
progmanos	EvilRoey: you're only trying to install one package with that command ;-)	18:27
EvilRoey	the first is what I get when I try to install konqueror.	18:27
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EvilRoey	progmanos: the package is not kde-desktop; what is it?	18:28
EvilRoey	kubuntu-desktop?	18:28
progmanos	EvilRoey: run sudo aptitude safe-upgrade	18:28
EvilRoey	http://pastebin.com/m6815daa0	18:28
EvilRoey	ah	18:28
EvilRoey	ok	18:28
EvilRoey	er ok now what?	18:29
EvilRoey	it removed phonon :P	18:29
danielsp	I can't use Kpackage to install updates on my system. I receive a message that no network found	18:30
danielsp	but everyday I get the new bug warnings and update warnings	18:30
danielsp	can someone help?	18:30
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EvilRoey	progmanos: what now?	18:31
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progmanos	EvilRoey: use aptitude and the dependency resolver in it	18:32
MoscowAudiA6	People. Anybody know UML-designer for linux?	18:32
EvilRoey	progmanos: http://pastebin.com/m5b3fcce3	18:32
EvilRoey	hrm.	18:32
EvilRoey	progmanos: it proposes downgrading to 4.3.2	18:33
EvilRoey	Downgrade the following packages:	18:33
EvilRoey	kdebase-data [4:4.3.85-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1 (now) -> 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu3 (karmic)]	18:33
progmanos	EvilRoey: can you post a screenshot?	18:34
progmanos	http://imagebin.ca/	18:34
EvilRoey	ok	18:34
EvilRoey	well I'm using commandline apttitude	18:34
EvilRoey	progmanos: http://pastebin.com/m38a9395	18:35
progmanos	Are you using a DE?	18:35
EvilRoey	I'm sshing into my home box from work	18:35
EvilRoey	where work is kde 4.3.4	18:35
EvilRoey	home /was/ kde 4.3.4, now it's sort of broken, I guess ;)	18:35
EvilRoey	can't find startkde	18:35
EvilRoey	I added that last deb line there and then did update && dist-upgrade	18:36
progmanos	have you tried upgrading all of your packages?	18:36
EvilRoey	yes.	18:36
progmanos	EvilRoey: sudo aptitude safe-upgrade	18:36
MoscowAudiA6	Somebody say me name of any UML-designer for linux	18:36
EvilRoey	progmanos: http://pastebin.com/m3b710095	18:37
alexandernst	MoscowAudiA6: netbeans?	18:37
MoscowAudiA6	81,3MБ OK I am installing	18:38
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progmanos	EvilRoey: open aptitude with sudo aptitude and then try install kubuntu-desktop	18:40
progmanos	installing*	18:40
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progmanos	search for the broken packages using the keyboard shortcut 'b'	18:41
EvilRoey	progmanos: http://pastebin.com/m72966d7b	18:41
EvilRoey	'b' doesnt' work here at the y/n prompt	18:42
progmanos	EvilRoey: run sudo aptitude update first	18:43
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EvilRoey	and then what, safe-upgrade?	18:44
EvilRoey	progmanos: or back to install kubuntu-desktop?	18:44
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progmanos	lol. EvilRoey: you have the ppa commented out in your sources.list	18:45
progmanos	uncomment it and it should work. ;-)	18:46
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ioob	hey all, having some trouble installing kubuntu. I grabbed the alternate x64 9.10 image from the website, but it fails during install. I get a message asking me to insert another disc that i dont have. I have checked my disk integrity and everything checks out. any ideas?	18:48
EvilRoey	progmanos: ooh, good point :O)	18:48
EvilRoey	The following packages have been kept back:	18:48
EvilRoey	gwenview kdegraphics-strigi-plugins kdepim-groupware kdepim-kresources kdepim-runtime kdepim-wizards ktimetracker libkdepim4	18:48
EvilRoey	I did sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade and got that as the first part; then the rest of the packages which are getting upgraded came next	18:49
ioob	the specific error message is as follows: please insert the disc labeled: 'Kubuntu 9.10 _Karmic Koala_ - Release amd64 (20091027)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter	18:51
FloodBotK1	!netsplit	18:51
ubottu	netsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit	18:51
ioob	it gives me the option to go back or continue, both of which don't do anything. and i can't open my cdrom drive	18:51
robert______	hello I have KDE 4.4 Beta 2 and I can't find quick tilling, does anybody know where I can find it?	18:54
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JontheEchidna	robert______: while dragging a window, bring your mouse to any edge of the screen	18:55
ioob	hello, I'm trying to install Kubuntu on my system using the advanced 9.10 x64 cd. While installing the base system, it asks me to insert a different disc, and won't continue with the install. I have checked the disc integrity and everything checks out. Any ideas what could be wrong?	18:55
robert______	doesn't work, maybe it is off	18:56
fa4anaheim	ioob: Did you burn the disk yourself? iso..?	18:57
ioob	fa4anaheim, i burned the disc myself from an iso using brasero on my debian system	18:57
ioob	fa4anaheim, just downloaded the iso this morning from the kubuntu site via bitorrent http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/simple/karmic/alternate/kubuntu-9.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent	18:58
fa4anaheim	ioob: Ok, when it tells you to insert the other disk, does it say what disk? A title or something..?	18:58
ioob	fa4anaheim, yeah, it says "please insert the disc labeled: 'Kubuntu 9.10 _Karmic Koala_ - Release amd64 (20091027)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter"	18:59
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ioob	fa4anaheim, and there are options to 'go back' or 'continue', both of which just highlight continue and don't do anything else	18:59
impy_	Hey guys, I am running ubuntu remix, 8.04, can I change the font color of my menu?	18:59
impy_	Well, not menu, the bar on the top of my screen, not sure what it is called	19:00
fa4anaheim	ioob: What OS is on the machine now?	19:02
ioob	fa4anaheim, it was Windows Vista Ultimate x64, but since Kubuntu has started installing, the drive has been reformatted, and it obviously won't boot	19:03
fa4anaheim	Right, Intel or AMD?	19:04
ioob	fa4anaheim, Intel	19:04
ioob	fa4anaheim, is the alternate 64bit disc for amd only? I've noticed that it has amd in the disc title. If this is the case, can I get an x64 Intel disc, or do I need to use the x86 alternate disc?	19:05
hagabaka	yay, I have desktop effects again!	19:05
fa4anaheim	Well I can't figure out why it is prompting you to insert the AMD64 cd if you have an X86 chip...hangon, I am going to try a install on another machine and see if I can get the same result...	19:07
ioob	fa4anaheim, thank you. Is there any harm to just using the x86 alternate disc? I know that in theory, the x64 disc will utilize my system resources better, but...	19:07
fa4anaheim	ioob: Not unless you are setting up RAID 5, are you?	19:08
ioob	fa4anaheim, No, I have an existing hardware RAID1 formatted with NTFS	19:10
fa4anaheim	ioob: Ok, and just to be clear, you are not setting up a dual boot machine?	19:10
ioob	fa4anaheim, No, I will be running Kubuntu, and probably a WinXP VM just for Visual Studio	19:11
fa4anaheim	ioob: Ok, what do your partition tables look like? (For this install of course)...	19:12
islington	is it possible to add the newpaper activity to plasma-desktop. I am trying out kde 4.4 b2	19:12
ioob	fa4anaheim, I just used the guided full disk partition. No LVM, all partitions on the same disk. I think it's just a swap and an ext4	19:12
fa4anaheim	Ok, I am firing up the install now...standby...	19:13
ioob	fa4anaheim, will do, thank you	19:13
fa4anaheim	ioob: np	19:13
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lady	canal:	19:16
islington	is it possible to add the newpaper activity to plasma-desktop. I am trying out kde 4.4 b2	19:19
FloodBotK1	NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.	19:23
ioob	fa4anaheim, are you still here after all of that nonsense?	19:24
islington	is it possible to add the newpaper activity to plasma-desktop. I am trying out kde 4.4 b2	19:24
fa4anaheim	ioob: Yea...I'm trying a few different setups for the partitioning...	19:25
lady	buh	19:26
ioob	fa4anaheim, just to clarify, I have two logical disks. One is an NTFS formatted RAID1. I want to leave that one alone and install Kubuntu on the other logical disk. Didn't know if I mentioned both before	19:26
fa4anaheim	ioob: Ok, you're second disk, is it part of the RAID?	19:27
ioob	fa4anaheim, no. It is all on it's own.	19:28
fa4anaheim	ioob: Ok good, are they IDE or SATA?	19:28
ioob	fa4anaheim, All are SATA, the RAID1 is intel onboard hardware	19:28
ioob	fa4anaheim, the RAID1 has the backup of all of the files that i wish to keep on it, so i'd rather not lose it if possible	19:28
fa4anaheim	ioob: Ok, well all sounds good...did the Karmic Installer even see the RAID?	19:29
ioob	fa4anaheim, I first tried with the graphical installer. It saw the raid, but when I tried to choose the other disk from the drop down box, the installer crashed. At that point, I downloaded the alternate disk. It can see the RAID, turns on support for it, and gives me the option to install to it. I chose to install to the other disk instead and to leave the RAID alone	19:30
fa4anaheim	ioob: Ahhh, ok. Sounds like the Intel chipset is wanting to overide the installer, couple of options...	19:32
fa4anaheim	ioob: Are you wanting to mount the RAID1 once Kubuntu is installed?	19:32
EvilRoey	hola	19:33
EvilRoey	is kipi-plugins available for the kde 4.4b2 ppa?	19:33
ioob	Yes, at which point I'll shuffle all of my data around and reformat it to ext4, then move the data back	19:33
ioob	fa4anaheim, it can stay NTFS for now if possible	19:34
newbie	what is rdf virtuoso server?	19:34
fa4anaheim	ioob: Ok, well we either need to change the BIOS or the hard drive configuration...the Intel chipset is set to operate with the RAID1 protocal which is contridicting what we are trying to do with the Karmic install...	19:36
ioob	fa4anaheim, so do i need to break the RAID apart? or can I change the install options	19:36
fa4anaheim	ioob: No, you shouldn't have to mess with it. I just setup my RAID5 with RAID1 behaivor so now I am going to try another install...	19:38
ioob	fa4anaheim, thanks. The RAID1 isn't terribly important. I've thought about breaking it apart anyway. The only important thing is that I don't lose the data that's on it	19:39
fa4anaheim	ioob: Ok, well since it is the data that is important and not the setup we had better just leave it alone for now...if it was RAID0 then we'd really be screwed! :)	19:41
ioob	fa4anaheim, if you run RAID0 without any kind of a data backup, you probably deserve to lose your data :P	19:42
Galvatron	Hi	19:42
fa4anaheim	ioob: True	19:42
Galvatron	Using Opera mouse gestures causes system freeze.	19:43
Galvatron	The only responding thing is "jumping" cursor" and I must reset	19:43
Novice	Nedd help getting HPOfficejet 6310 all in one to scan have tried sane and XSane and it's making me insane!	19:44
Galvatron	When it happened today, I tried to unplug keybord (Logitech PS/2) and mou7se (Logitech USB)	19:44
Galvatron	After replugging the keybord, PC got a hard reset	19:45
Galvatron	My OS is Kubuntu 9.04	19:45
Vroomfondle	unplugging a PS/2 keyboard can be a bad idea on older computers. It can make them get upset & reboot.	19:46
Vroomfondle	as it appears to be Opera-related, to be honest you might have more luck asking on their user forums though	19:47
Vroomfondle	at first glance it seems like a bug in Opera, though it might be a bug in QT I guess	19:48
Galvatron	I had it in Opera 10.10 and now the same thing with 10.20 Alpha 1	19:48
Galvatron	But there's something more	19:48
Galvatron	Sometimes monitor turns off on its own just after booting	19:49
Galvatron	And sometime the system doen't boot with an I/O error tty	19:49
Vroomfondle	that's a bit odd.	19:50
Galvatron	I have Radeon 9200SE with open drivers	19:50
Vroomfondle	sounds like Linux doesn't like your motherboard, perhaps	19:50
fa4anaheim	ioob: Is your optical drive SATA aswell?	19:51
Galvatron	Epox P4X400D (Via chipset)	19:51
Galvatron	The motherboard issu could explain Opera/mouse problems	19:52
ioob	fa4anaheim, optical drive is IDE. Also, the drive that I'm trying to install to is IDE. Sorry, gave you the wrong info before.	19:52
EvilRoey	Galvatron: you were made a Texas Transistors?	19:52
ioob	fa4anaheim, Both RAID1 drives are SATA, the drive want to install to and the optical are both IDE	19:52
Vroomfondle	Galvatron: yes, it might explain that	19:53
EvilRoey	Galvatron: btw... so it is definitively proven that Galvatron formed from Megatron?	19:53
Vroomfondle	I don't know that motherboard though. I think the best you can do is probably to ask on the Ubuntu forums and google around for "epox p4x400d linux" or something	19:54
fa4anaheim	ioob: That's ok...so her inlies the problem...try this, disconnect the RAID array from the mobo, then see if you can reboot and launch the installer...let me know what happens...I'm still tinkering around with my setup here but nothing yet :[	19:54
ioob	fa4anaheim, the machine didn't yell at me, and the installer is started. Will I be able to re-enable the SATA RAID1 after the install?	19:56
fa4anaheim	ioob: Yes, I just wanted to see if you're BIOS were ok, and sounds like they are. Most of the time if you are using any RAID on SATA then when you're machine boots up the only thing it is looking for on an IDE channel is other media, optical, floppy, etc...	19:58
ioob	fa4anaheim, should i proceed with the install with the RAID1 drives disconnected?	19:59
ioob	fa4anaheim, and if so, what partitioning options would you recommend, knowing that I'll want to reconnect the RAID1 after the install? Can I use an LVM to make everything appear as a single logical disk?	19:59
fa4anaheim	ioob: Yea, continue with install, Karmic has a bootstapper for RAID and it sounds like it was trying to do just that to you...	20:01
ioob	fa4anaheim, when installing, should i use an LVM so that I can add the raid after, or should i just use the entire disk? I haven't really used LVM's much in the past aside from full disk encryption, so i'm not sure exactly what's possible	20:02
fa4anaheim	ioob: how big is the hd?	20:03
ioob	fa4anaheim, 500GB	20:03
ioob	fa4anaheim, the RAID1 is also 500GB	20:03
the_cyber_guy	i have selected to remove a panel from plasma desktop and suddently it crashed and now i m unable to add panel, pls help	20:04
maco	alt+f2 and run "plasma-desktop" maybe?	20:04
fa4anaheim	ioob: Not worth it...LVM isn't really necessary until you cross the 5TB line...I'm typing up the partitioning table I use	20:05
the_cyber_guy	didnt worked either	20:05
ioob	fa4anaheim, thanks, I'd like to see how it's supposed to be done	20:05
fa4anaheim	ioob: ioob: PRIMARY/ext4/boot (500mb)PRIMARY/ext4/root (<20gb) PRIMARY	20:05
ioob	fa4anaheim, the guided partitioner has given me a 12GB swap and a 488GB root, but no boot	20:06
ioob	fa4anaheim, i assume that it hasn't forgotten about the boot	20:07
fa4anaheim	ioob: No, how much RAM do you have?	20:07
ioob	4GB	20:07
ioob	fa4anaheim, isn't the rule of thumb RAM*2 + 2GB	20:07
fa4anaheim	ioob: Yea, and that's plenty, linux does not "require" a boot partition but I always throw it in so I don't crowd my ~/ with boot logs and errors.	20:08
ioob	fa4anaheim, so Kubuntu doesnt necessarily give me a boot part by default? Debian does it automatically	20:09
fa4anaheim	ioob: On a x64 system Karmic will use part of the RAM + swap to "host" the boot session. Once the xserver is launched it closes the com and clears out the bytes.	20:11
ioob	fa4anaheim, that's fancy. My install is proceeding normally. do you mind if i msg you once it's done for a hand getting the RAID set up?	20:11
ioob	fa4anaheim, scratch that, the error is back again.	20:12
fa4anaheim	ioob: Really, ok on to the BIOS...	20:12
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ioob	fa4anaheim, this should be fun	20:12
fa4anaheim	ioob: It always is...not. :O Question; what optical drive are you using?	20:13
dwayne	Hello what's the IP address of the official servers?	20:14
dwayne	Apt-get seems to be trying to get info from 10.114.204.40	20:14
ioob	fa4anaheim, it's an Optiarc DVD RW	20:15
Novice	Could someone tell me how to convert pnm file to pdf?	20:15
ioob	fa4anaheim, the funny thing about this whole situation is that the live disc runs fine. I just can't get a full install done	20:15
fa4anaheim	ioob: Optiarc, Sony I think..?	20:16
ioob	fa4anaheim, that's what Google tells me. it doesn't have any external markings. it's always just worked for me. any reason why you'	20:17
ioob	fa4anaheim, sorry, any reason why you suspect it may be the problem?	20:17
fa4anaheim	ioob: Yea...	20:17
Tm_T	dwayne: that ip is meant to be used in "private network" ... which means LAN or similar local network	20:18
fa4anaheim	ioob: ...sorry I'm chatting with my brother, (unix master!)...	20:18
dwayne	Tm_T: Ok I'm trying to figure out why it's proxying	20:18
Tm_T	dwayne: you are using wlan?	20:19
dwayne	apt-get is connecting to that let me see what kpackagekit is saying	20:19
dwayne	no wireless	20:19
Tm_T	roger	20:19
fa4anaheim	ioob: Before we mess with the BIOS I want to look at something...You said you downloaded the .iso today?	20:19
ioob	fa4anaheim, that is correct. I used the 'alternate 64bit' link at http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download	20:21
fa4anaheim	ioob: Ok...	20:21
Galvatron	I dont know why, but I can't enable ctrl+alt+backspace shortcut to restart X in my 9.04	20:23
Galvatron	I tried disabling dontzap	20:23
Galvatron	And other methods	20:24
Galvatron	And still no effect	20:24
fa4anaheim	ioob: Is you're computer hooked up to the net?	20:25
ioob	fa4anaheim, yes, it has a LAN connection	20:26
fa4anaheim	ioob: And you said that you are or are not going to use LVM?	20:27
Galvatron	I have no checkbox for that in System Settings > Display	20:27
dwayne	Tm_T: kpackagkit is connecting to that same IP	20:27
ioob	fa4anaheim, doesn't matter to me at all. i just wanted to know how it would affect my RAID array when I brought it back online	20:27
osos	Galvatron: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap#Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04	20:28
Scrappyfoot	I'm trying to resolve some dependencies so I can install the latest ktorrent. http://pastebin.com/dfa798e3 . Should I use sudo aptitude remove -f ? Even if it wants to get rid of kubuntu-desktop?	20:28
dwayne	Tm_T: Where can I check for what would be holding this proxy info?	20:29
Tm_T	dwayne: I have no idea, I never use proxies (in a way I have to manage them)	20:30
fa4anaheim	ioob: Oh, ok. Yea it won't, not unless you were planning on formating the RAID aswell. Ok, well I would give the desktop version a try...I'm still talking with my Brother, he said that Karmic Alt CD has had problems with some of the newer drives, so if you are just usin the graphical guide install then you don't really need to use the Alt CD...	20:30
dwayne	Tm_T: Ok can I assume that if apt-get is connecting to a proxy then it's below the KDE level?	20:30
ioob	fa4anaheim, what is the difference between the desktop cd and the one that is downloaded by default if you just hit the download button?	20:30
Tm_T	dwayne: possibly yes	20:30
Galvatron	osos: I have 9.04 NOT "9.10 or higher";)	20:31
osos	Galvatron: look at the contents.	20:32
dwayne	!proxy	20:32
ubottu	Many Ubuntu IRC channels prohibit access from !proxies such as !TOR and web (Java, etc) gateways due to a high level of abuse. You can however obtain a hostmask cloak: see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#cloaks	20:32
fa4anaheim	ioob: The desktop CD launches the Karmic desktop where you can then install it, as opposed to the "regular" install cd...this can be useful for us so we can use bash and other error logs to see what is going on before we actually install it to you're drive...	20:33
Galvatron	The "Server Flag" doesn't work	20:34
dwayne	Never mind	20:34
dwayne	found it	20:34
fa4anaheim	ioob: I need to restart, I'll be back in a few...	20:34
Galvatron	I did it already	20:35
dwayne	Tm_T: /etc/apt/apt.conf	20:35
Tm_T	dwayne: you have proxy set there?	20:35
jinaakko	hi	20:35
dwayne	Tm_T: HAD ;-)	20:36
Tm_T	roger	20:36
ioob	fa4anaheim, wb	20:40
aledream	ciao	20:43
aledream	ragazzi	20:43
Tm_T	!it \| aledream	20:44
ubottu	aledream: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (click col tasto destro sul nome del canale per entrare)	20:44
aledream	ok	20:44
aledream	scusate	20:44
fa4anaheim	ioob: I'm back...	20:44
ioob	fa4anaheim, wb. I'm just burning the desktop x64 disc right now. Should I leave the RAID1 drives unplugged during the installation?	20:45
caliga	hi! after installing xorg-driver-fglrx, i do not have the module fglrx. modprobe: FATAL: Module fglrx not found. Any hints?	20:45
fa4anaheim	ioob: You should be able to plug them back in...if not we can just unplug them again...	20:46
ioob	fa4anaheim, ok trying the install now	20:47
fa4anaheim	ioob: Ok, keep me posted...	20:47
Novice	Could someone tell me how to convert pnm file to pdf?	20:48
fa4anaheim	Novice: sudo apt-get install netpbm	20:49
Novice	scanned some images with xsane and need to convert them to pdf	20:49
ioob	Novice, just did a google search, this page might help you, but it looks like you'd have to convert to png in between: http://linux.about.com/od/linux101/l/blnewbie5_19.htm	20:50
genii	Could just load them into OpenOffice Writer and export to pdf	20:50
caliga	can somebody please help me to get fglrx working?	20:51
Novice	fa4anaheim: apears netpbm is allready installed any clues on how to use it	20:51
fa4anaheim	Novice: Yea, cd to the dir with the files then: for pic in *.pnm, do pnmtojepg "${pic}" > "{pic}-converted.jpeg"	20:54
Novice	fa4anaheim: thx for the info but you lost me there	20:56
fa4anaheim	Novice: That's ok. In Shell, cd to the folder with the files you want to convert...	20:57
Novice	fa4anaheim: like this cd/home/david/documents	21:01
fa4anaheim	Novice: Yep, then; for pic in *.pnm...	21:04
Novice	fa4anaheim: want pnm to pdf	21:05
Novice	fa4anaheim: trying to follow your instructions above but what are the symols for are they required	21:08
fa4anaheim	Novice: Sorry...yes, the * means all or it will convert all files of that type. I assume you want to do a "batch" conversion, as opposed to one at a time...	21:10
Novice	fa4anaheim: correct	21:10
fa4anaheim	Novice: Then yes include the * FYI, if you were to want to convert a single file you would simply type the filename where the * is...	21:11
Novice	fa4anaheim: could you give me an example with this Florida Annual Sales Tax page1.pnm	21:13
Novice	fa4anaheim: Will be writing this stuff down!	21:15
BluesKaj	Novice, make a text file and add to it as you learn new commands , and save every time you add or edit of course	21:16
Novice	fa4anaheim: ah thats a good idea as oposed to writing	21:17
fa4anaheim	Novice: Sure, pnmtojpeg "${Florida Annual Sales Tax page1}" > "${Florida Annual Sales Tax page1}-converted.jpg"	21:17
BluesKaj	give each command a meaning /refernce ,then you can refer back to the file	21:18
Novice	fa4anaheim: whats the jpeg for	21:19
fa4anaheim	Novice: So, this takes "page1" and converts it and saves the file with the same file name and adds "-converted" to the end...	21:19
Novice	fa4anaheim: same as pdf ?	21:19
fa4anaheim	Novice: You can make a single pdf from multiple jpeg images...	21:19
r4v3nsw0rd	what is the use of the activity bar?	21:20
fa4anaheim	Novice: Do you have ImageMagick installed?	21:21
Novice	fa4anaheim: beyond my scope for now I just need pdf couse taxes are due the firt of the year and dont want to get hit with penalties	21:21
fa4anaheim	Novice: If so, then you can do a direct .pnm to .pdf...	21:21
Novice	fa4anaheim: just replace jpeg with pdf?	21:22
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fa4anaheim	Novice: netpbm will not to a direct pnm to pdf but ImageMagick will...	21:22
ioob	fa4anaheim, just a heads up that I've managed to get the graphical installer running, but only with the RAID1 drives unplugged. I'll need a little guidance on how to migrate them back into the system after install	21:23
Phyber0ptik	is it possible to open kdewallet automatically on startup?	21:23
fa4anaheim	ioob: Good news! No, problem...let me know when you are ready...	21:24
fa4anaheim	Phyber0ptik: Yes, what ver are you running?	21:24
Phyber0ptik	version of kubuntu?	21:24
Phyber0ptik	9.10	21:25
fa4anaheim	Phyber0ptik: With KDE4.x?	21:25
Phyber0ptik	yes	21:25
fa4anaheim	Phyber0ptik: Ok, goto System Settings...	21:25
Phyber0ptik	ok	21:26
fa4anaheim	Phyber0ptik: Click on the Advanced tab...	21:26
Phyber0ptik	then KDE wallet probably...	21:26
Phyber0ptik	now what	21:26
fa4anaheim	Phyber0ptik: Click on the Autostart icon...	21:27
r4v3nsw0rd	what is the use of the activity bar?	21:28
Phyber0ptik	on the preferances tab?	21:28
fa4anaheim	Phyber0ptik: No, backup, it's under the Advanced tab in the Syatem Settings...	21:29
Phyber0ptik	im on the advance tab i believe	21:29
Phyber0ptik	i get a preferances tab and an access control tabv	21:30
fa4anaheim	Phyber0ptik: You are under the KDEWallet option, backup a level...So it should be; System Settings>Advanced (tab)>Autostart	21:31
Phyber0ptik	i see now	21:31
fa4anaheim	Phyber0ptik: On the right hand side there is a button, Add Program, click on it and select KDEWallet from the tree...	21:32
fa4anaheim	Phyber0ptik: Then click Apply...viola!	21:32
Phyber0ptik	kwalletmanager?	21:32
Phyber0ptik	yay	21:33
fa4anaheim	Phyber0ptik: Yea	21:33
Phyber0ptik	thank you for the help	21:33
fa4anaheim	Phyber0ptik: np	21:33
Novice	fa4anaheim: dont know what im doing wrong but still cant get this to work	21:33
fa4anaheim	Novice: Ok, do you have ImageMagick installed?	21:36
Novice	fa4anaheim: no was trying the commands you told me to do	21:36
Novice	fa4anaheim: anyways it did nothing	21:36
Novice	fa4anaheim: is imagemagic free	21:37
BluesKaj	imagemagick is free , yes	21:37
fa4anaheim	Novice: Yes, open KPackageKit and search it...	21:37
ioob	fa4anaheim, when you have a moment, I have a working desktop up.	21:37
BluesKaj	make sure it's spelled 'imagemagick '	21:38
Scunizi	Novice: fa4anaheim or simply open terminal and "sudo aptitude install imagemagick" or sudo apt-get install imagemagick	21:38
fa4anaheim	Novice: That too...	21:39
fa4anaheim	ioob: Yea! Is there an icon to install..?	21:39
Scunizi	usually a little quicker.	21:39
r4v3nsw0rd	So does anyone know what the activity bar widget does? It says Desktop for me no matter where I am...	21:39
Scunizi	kpackagekit isn't my favorite	21:39
ioob	fa4anaheim, Already did that. I have a fully installed desktop in front of me. How do i proceed with adding the RAID array to the system?	21:40
Novice	fa4anaheim: says they are automatically installed	21:40
fa4anaheim	ioob: Oh, sweet! Hang on...Sorry :/	21:40
ioob	fa4anaheim, no problem, take your time	21:41
Novice	fa4anaheim: http://pastebin.com/m6553d4f8	21:42
fa4anaheim	Novice: Ok, good. If you are still in the dir containing the files then type this: convert x.pnm x.pdf (x being the file name).	21:44
Novice	fa4anaheim: could never get to the directory	21:45
Scunizi	fa4anaheim: has imagemagick improved its ability to convert a pic to pdf .. I know it had issue in the past	21:45
fa4anaheim	Novice: Why?	21:45
Novice	fa4anaheim: couse im novice and dont know how	21:46
fa4anaheim	Scunizi: For pictures not really, but in this case he has a bunch of scaned text so it should be fine...	21:46
fa4anaheim	Novice: That's ok. Go to the folder where they are saved...	21:47
Novice	fa4anaheim: does imagemagick have a gui	21:47
Novice	fa4anaheim: kk	21:47
Novice	fa4anaheim: then	21:48
fa4anaheim	Novice: Ok, then at the top of the window do you see a tools menu?	21:49
Novice	fa4anaheim: yes	21:49
fa4anaheim	Novice: And no it does not have a GUI, at least not that I know of...	21:49
fa4anaheim	Novice: Ok, click on tools and go down to "Open in Terminal..."	21:50
Novice	fa4anaheim: ok	21:50
fa4anaheim	Novice: There?	21:51
Novice	fa4anaheim: yes	21:51
fa4anaheim	Novice: Ok, now type "convert x.pnm x.pdf" without the quotes, and x being the filename...	21:51
BluesKaj	is there a substitude for the run command (alt+f2) ? , mine has disappeared	21:52
BluesKaj	substutute	21:52
Novice	fa4anaheim: http://pastebin.com/macb06af	21:54
Scunizi	Novice: part of your issue it the spaces in the file name.. replace them with underscores "_"	21:55
Scunizi	Novice: you can also just start typing the file name and hit TAB for autocompletiton and the system will format it correctly	21:56
Scunizi	might look a little weird though	21:56
ioob	hey guys, I have Kubuntu 9.10 installed on a dual monitor system, but it seemed to be recognizing both monitors as one and mirroring the desktop over them. I installed the proprietary nvidia drivers for my graphics card, and now it isn't recognizing the second monitor at all. any ideas?	21:57
fa4anaheim	Novice: Copy and paste this: http://pastebin.com/m89b8d4f	21:57
Scunizi	ioob: from terminal try sudo nvidia-xconfig	21:58
lukefeil	ioob: open the nvidia-settings and click on "detect monitors"	21:59
Novice	fa4anaheim: http://pastebin.com/m378ac55b	22:01
Scunizi	fa4anaheim: that doesn't deal with the spaces in the file names .. you'll get the same results.. put the file names in quotes or use TAB for auto completion and bash will most likely use \ or something similar in the blank spaces	22:02
ioob	lukefeil, where is the "detect monitors" in the utility?	22:02
ioob	lukefeil, found it	22:02
fa4anaheim	Novice: Scunizi is right, put the filenames in quotes...	22:03
Novice	wow didnt realize it would take four houes to scan and convert on linux	22:04
ioob	fa4anaheim, I have to leave for work shortly, can you give me a quick rundown of what's required to migrate my RAID array into my install so that I can mount it automatically on startup?	22:06
Scunizi	Novice: one of the other ways to convert if you can open the files in the scanning program is to just "print" them to a PDF print driver.. you'll have to install the driver though.. not difficult.. it will save the resulting file in a directory called PDF in your /home	22:07
fa4anaheim	ioob: Sure, once you hook it back up you have to find out what it is called; fdisk -l \| grep NTFS	22:08
Novice	Oh thank god I finally got it the quotes worked yeah!!!!!!!	22:08
fa4anaheim	ioob: Prob something like /dev/sdb1/ or whatever...	22:09
Novice	Thank you all for your help now I can finish this finnaly	22:09
Scunizi	Novice: if you have multiple files you want to combine.. pdfshuffler will do it.	22:09
fa4anaheim	Novice: Yea!	22:10
ioob	fa4anaheim, no output	22:10
Scunizi	I think it's called that.	22:10
fa4anaheim	ioob: Are they hooked back up?	22:10
ioob	fa4anaheim, however, I can actually see the RAID in Dolphin. But it shows up as two separate drives	22:10
ioob	fa4anaheim, yes, i can see them. How come it shows two drives in Dolphin?	22:10
fa4anaheim	ioob: Ok, then it is not seeing the actual RAID just 2 hdds...	22:10
ioob	fa4anaheim, that's correct. I wrote a file to one and it didn't appear on the other	22:11
ioob	fa4anaheim, so, i assume i need a driver or something now?	22:11
fa4anaheim	ioob: No, we just need to assemble them...tell me what output you get when you type this; fdisk -l \| grep raid	22:12
ioob	fa4anaheim, it gives me a warning. says that a GPT was detected on /dev/sda and on /dev/sdb, and that fdisk doesn't support GPT. It claims i should use gparted	22:14
ioob	fa4anaheim, GNU Parted*	22:14
fa4anaheim	ioob: No gparted is the gnome partitioner...	22:15
ioob	fa4anaheim, if i have a hardware RAID array, why is the OS seeing it as separate drives? Do I need a driver or some firmware or something for the hardware RAID?	22:16
fa4anaheim	ioob: No drivers, RAID is all done at the hardware level...it is prob bc it is NTFS that it is not seeing it as a RAID...	22:20
ioob	so i should try to migrate the data over to my install disk and then reformat?	22:21
fa4anaheim	ioob: No, shouldn't have to...Karmic is more than able to rw NTFS...	22:22
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soee	hey guys do u have 2 upgrades blocked after switch to kde 4.4 b2 ?	22:27
phoenixz	What is the password of the "ubuntu" user during a Kubuntu installation?	22:28
maco	phoenixz: ubuntu	22:29
ioob	fa4anaheim, any hints for next steps? or should i give up and google for a bit?	22:29
phoenixz	maco: mmm, tried.. my dad is installing ubuntu, I had him install openssh-server, so that I could get in and take over the install, but I cant get in	22:30
fa4anaheim	ioob: I would [sudo apt-get install mdadm] RAID manager for linux...	22:30
maco	phoenixz: its quieter over here, so lets stick to here\	22:30
phoenixz	maco: sure	22:31
maco	phoenixz: is dad behind a NAT?	22:31
phoenixz	maco: is it possible to get into ubuntu over SSH during install?	22:31
maco	after installing openssh-server, if its online, yeah...should be	22:31
phoenixz	maco: yeah, but with port forwarding, thats already fixed.. worked before on ku buntu as well but due to a HD crash he needs to reinstall	22:32
maco	im not entirely sure you can see the installer from ssh though	22:32
phoenixz	maco: Its asking password.. tried ubuntu, cant get in, had him passwd with 12345, but also cant get in	22:32
phoenixz	maco: I cant, I know, but I can install x11vnc and take over :)	22:32
maco	hmm i dunno then. can you get him to install vnc for you?	22:33
phoenixz	But the problem is, I need to be able to get in first, or I cant do anything	22:33
phoenixz	maco: I could but that would be my last option, its a bit more complex, because he also needs to run it himself, etc..	22:34
maco	gotcha	22:34
maco	is he actually not able to go through the install on his own, you think? :-/	22:35
maco	im not sure why the ssh wont work...	22:35
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phoenixz	maco: well, he might but the installer is not behaving as expected, he's seeing something different than he should so I want to see what he sees	22:35
maco	i see	22:36
Scunizi	phoenixz: is remote desktop on the live cd? can he activate that letting you get in that way?	22:42
phoenixz	Scunizi: I only need SSH.. once I got that, I got all	22:42
Scunizi	phoenixz: just means another port forward (5900) I think	22:42
phoenixz	Scunizi: yeah, but thats all taken care of.. thats not the problem	22:43
phoenixz	Scunizi: problem is that I cant get in over SSH, it wont accept any passwords	22:43
Scunizi	phoenixz: try without a password.. using kubuntu as the user name	22:48
phoenixz	Scunizi: tried that already as wel	22:48
phoenixz	well	22:48
phoenixz	Scunizi: I finally got in with a newly created user.. strange..	22:50
Scunizi	phoenixz: yea.. the default user can be problematic with that sort of thing..	22:51
phoenixz	maco: What is the install command?	23:01
maco	ubiquity	23:01
phoenixz	maco: installing Kubuntu 9.10, for some reason, he does not see the desktop widget where the install icon is located..	23:01
maco	weird	23:01
phoenixz	maco: gottit, thanks!	23:02
Scunizi	phoenixz: you doing this with terminal prompts like the text installer?	23:05
phoenixz	Scunizi: I already installed x11vnc and now running all over VNC viewer	23:05
Scunizi	phoenixz: ah.. ok.. I didn't know if you could initiate a text based install with the live cd on ssh or not..	23:07
phoenixz	Scunizi: yeah, tried that too, but I want my dad to see how to do this so	23:07
Scunizi	phoenixz: good for him.. how old is he?	23:07
* ryan__ Mofa		23:32
LuciusMare	hello,where is KDE's folder where are installed wallpapers?	23:33
phoenixz	LuciusMare: /usr/share/wallpapers, IIRC	23:34
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LuciusMare	no	23:34
LuciusMare	there is only one	23:34
LuciusMare	the installed through that gui app	23:35
LuciusMare	i mean	23:36
LuciusMare	er	23:36
LuciusMare	there is only one. I mean the installed through "right click on desktop>settings"	23:36
LuciusMare	find / -name wallpaperfilename didnt find anything	23:36
phoenixz	LuciusMare: mmmm, not sure, let me check	23:37
phoenixz	LuciusMare: try ls -l /usr/share/wallpapers	23:38
LuciusMare	nope	23:38
LuciusMare	oh	23:38
LuciusMare	$ ls -l /usr/share/wallpapers	23:39
LuciusMare	celkem 4	23:39
LuciusMare	drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2009-12-22 20:26 Air	23:39
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phoenixz	LuciusMare: ls -l /home/sven/.kde/share/wallpapers/	23:40
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LuciusMare	^^	23:40
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LuciusMare	thanks	23:40
LuciusMare	bye	23:40
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