[00:00] <zzzxzzz> is anybody here?
[00:02] <judgen> seems noone is answering
[00:22] <rodrigo> olá
[00:22] <vzduch> !pt | rodrigo
[00:24] <Tiders> wn-desktop:~$ w.exe
[00:36] <vzduch> Tiders: ?
[00:51] <Tiders-> What do I do if when I reboot windows are opening in the top corner and I cant do anyting with them
[01:02] <mkquist> Tiders-: what do you mean you cant do anything?
[01:02] <mkquist> Tiders-: cant you just kill em?
[01:03] <arenas> hello, does anybody know ascii code for <Enter> key?
[01:06] <mkquist> arenas: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carriage_return might help
[01:07] <Tiders-> mkquist, No because when I open a terminal it wont let me do anything inside the terminal
[01:07] <Tiders-> mkquist, ANd when I reboot they are still there
[01:08] <mkquist> terminal doesnt work?
[01:09] <arenas> thanx man
[01:09] <mkquist> ur welcome
[01:10] <Tiders-> mkquist, Nothing does
[01:11] <mkquist> ?? new install?
[01:11] <Tiders-> mkquist, I can open applications but they open to the top corner of the screen and I cant do anything with them
[01:11] <Tiders-> Im typing from my laptop even because I cant do anything at all on my desktop
[01:11] <Tiders-> If I cant fix this there is no way I am trying out KDE again
[01:11] <mkquist> gnome and kde both installed?
[01:12] <Tiders-> No
[01:28] <iconmefisto> Tiders-: do you have a panel at the bottom?
[01:28] <Tiders-> Yes
[01:28] <Tiders-> iconmefisto, And I can open stuff but it opens to the top corner
[01:28] <iconmefisto> and the windows that open appear in the panel?
[01:28] <Tiders-> No
[01:28] <Tiders-> In the top of the screen
[01:28] <iconmefisto> no?
[01:29] <Tiders-> They just appear randomly at the top right of my monitor
[01:29] <iconmefisto> so you have windows with no matching buttons in panel?
[01:29] <Tiders-> And their title bars are unreachable
[01:29] <Tiders-> Thats correct
[01:30] <iconmefisto> you can move the windows by holding down alt and grabbing the window with the mouse (anywhere in the window)
[01:31] <iconmefisto> or you can kill the window if you ctrl-alt-esc then touch the window you want to kill with the skull and crossbones mousepointer which should appear
[01:32] <iconmefisto> either of those work Tiders- ?
[01:32] <Tiders-> Yes they close but then when I open another window they still open to the top corner
[01:33] <Tiders-> And are still unusable
[01:33] <iconmefisto> can you add widgets to the panel?
[01:33] <vzduch> sounds like desktop size doesn't match screen resolution
[01:34] <Tiders-> I think Im just going to give up with KDE.. I mean I like it a lot more but it just doesnt seem stable
[01:34] <iconmefisto> Tiders-: what graphics card do you have?
[01:34] <vzduch> Tiders-: it definitely is..  /me is more under the impression that Kubuntu isn't stable :P
[01:35] <Tiders-> nvidia 9600 GT
[01:35] <Tiders-> Asus*
[01:35] <Tiders-> It has a Nvidia GPU though
[01:35] <Tiders-> Asus 9600GT
[01:36] <iconmefisto> does the panel go all the way across the bottom of the screen? or is that misaligned and not at the bottom?
[01:37] <Tiders-> It goes all the way accross the bottom
[01:38] <iconmefisto> what about opening konsole and moving it with alt+drag so you can use it
[01:40] <vzduch> what about logging out choosing not to store the session ('Start with blank session' or something), then re-logging in?
[01:50] <gehzumteufel> Anyone know about konsole environment editing?
[01:57] <vzduch> !anyone
[01:58] <iconmefisto> Tiders-: is this a new install?
[01:59] <Tiders-> iconmefisto, Yes it was until I removed it
[01:59] <iconmefisto> removed?
[01:59] <iconmefisto> are you reinstalling?
[03:21] <Roasted> has anybody noticed they had video tearing in VLC, but not in dragon player?
[03:46] <Roasted> hey guys
[03:46] <Roasted> whats up with dragon player? Has KDE used it for a long time now?
[03:47] <Guest94879> how to use blackbox in kubuntu? i have installed it, but i dont know how to put it on
[04:01] <Guest94879> hey how to enable asking about user profile when you boot?
[04:37] <yang_> Major Update for KDE today in Kubuntu?? Not Claus is it?? That would be exciting...
[04:38] <yang_> KDE 4.4B2 is available in kubuntu!
[04:41] <islington> yang_: no official announcement yet, but just saw the update
[04:42] <JontheEchidna> assuming nothing catastrophic happens it'll be announced tomorrowish (depending on your timezone)
[04:42] <yang_> islington: super quick packaging of beta2.
[04:42] <yang_> Can't wiat should fix no compistion.
[04:42] <yang_> Virtuoso packaged yet?
[04:42] <islington> yang_: I just noticed that after the update I am running b2, awesome, I see no diff since my composition was already working
[04:43] <JontheEchidna> Not yet. :( Waiting on virtuoso 6.0.1
[04:43] <islington> I dont see it in the repos
[04:43] <yang_> Hmm. I will look into ETA for release .
[04:44] <islington> oh yay kwin is not so crashy when opening a svgz file.
[04:45] <yang_> islington: my just downloaded haha installing now...
[04:48] <yang_> Wait? Were waiting on a minor revision to package?
[05:18] <francisco_> does anybody know why kubuntu 9.10 does not recognice wireless in hp dv 6935la
[05:24] <islington> mmm bbc weather bug is still not gone :(
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[05:32] <FireCrotch> !ops | Alinae
[05:33] <nixternal> abk Alinae
[05:39] <matt001> Hi, Does anyone know when 4.4 beta 2 will be available for install from a ppa?
[05:39] <yang_> now
[05:39] <yang_> Im running right now lol
[05:40] <yang_> Does anybody know about tabbing windows in KDE 4.4 B2?
[05:40] <matt001> yang_ - what is the ppa? do you know?
[05:40] <yang_> Same as Beta1 i THink
[05:41] <matt001> yang_ I installed beta 1 - but ran into the video card issue of coruption
[05:41] <yang_> NO Comp issue?
[05:41] <yang_> me also. Fixed in trunk if same issue
[05:41] <matt001> has that been fixed do you know>
[05:41] <yang_> Yesssir
[05:41] <yang_> full comp form me right now
[05:42] <yang_> but wierd enough no color on note plasmoids or plasma crashes
[05:44] <matt001> yang_ tabbing windows - are you talking about the new grouping windows?
[05:44] <yang_> also can't do grouping windows  thing
[05:44] <yang_> yessir
[05:44] <yang_> tabbing windows.
[05:44] <matt001> I though I saw a video demoing how to do that
[05:44] <yang_> link me?
[05:45] <yang_> was easy in B1
[05:45] <matt001> let me see if I can find it
[05:45] <matt001> brb
[05:45] <yang_> right click -> group w/
[05:47] <islington> middle click and drag?
[05:47] <yang_> ill try
[05:47] <matt001> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEuapaLJF8g&feature=PlayList&p=13CB0B9654594D28&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=87
[05:47] <islington> middleclick on title yang_
[05:48] <matt001> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WrcIUkQnYjk&feature=PlayList&p=13CB0B9654594D28&index=89
[05:54] <yang_> islington: matt001 still no luck lol?
[05:54] <yang_> partially because of 2 button mouse . ...
[05:55] <matt001> yang_ - I found the previews on youtube, there is a part showing the grouping of windows, but youtube is being really slow here in New Zealand, trying to find a time reference in the video for you
[05:57] <yang_> video has all kinds of features mine doesn't
[05:57] <yang_> search type of plasma activity?
[05:57] <yang_> mine only has folder view and desktop
[05:58] <islington> you could install more
[05:58] <islington> I think
[05:59] <yang_> islington: really? very intresting... how?
[06:00] <islington> well the news paper activity is packaged into plasma-netbook
[06:01] <yang_> hmm
[06:03] <yang_> mouse actions are kool. Set left to application launcher.
[06:23] <yang_>  hmmm... I can't tab windows in 4.4 B2 even with middle click mouse.
[06:26] <r4v3nsw0rd> is there a way to get google-chrome-beta to use gnash instead of adobe flash player?
[06:52] <OxDeadC0de> anyone have experience with 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01) in 9.10? It was working with ndiswrapper in 8.10 and 9.04 now it won't
[06:53] <OxDeadC0de> wl scans fine but won't connect... and I just added the network manager applet from  the repo (Before I was running it compiled), and when I try to add a connection it crashes (And with the old compiled network manager applet it wouldn't connect.. ever)
[06:53] <Tm_T> yang_: B2 ?
[06:57] <et_> do the 4.4 beta packages include Virtuoso?
[06:58] <Tm_T> et_: current packages?
[06:59] <et_> 4.3.80 or 4.3.85
[07:01] <Tm_T> et_: hmm, cannot see it
[07:01] <jussi01> Tm_T: no
[07:03] <et_> I get a message about Nepomuk needing the Virtuoso RDF backend, is that planned later?
[07:05] <bakarat> i can't shut down kubuntu anymore, since latest update both hibernate and regular shutdown (even sudo shutdown now) do NOT work, they work up to a point, the screen goes black, but the computer stays on, i have to hit the powerbutton to power it down
[07:05] <|OxDeadC0de|> never mind, it all was working I guess but the old network-manager applet I had manually compiled and installed was interfering with things.. luckily I still had the makefile so I did a make uninstall
[07:06] <et_> bakarat: do you get a graphical login, or do you log in on the console?
[07:06] <bakarat> et_, graphical
[07:10] <et_> bakarat: it sounds like a process isn't stopping and the computer is waiting for it to quit (which it won't). My mom's computer does that intermittently, and it's the bluetooth module.
[07:11] <bakarat> et_, odd though, i've been running ubuntu/kubuntu on this machine for a year, no problems until the last update
[07:11] <et_> bakarat: do you remember what was in the update?
[07:12] <bakarat> et_, no :(
[07:12] <bakarat> et_, is there any way to trace what is hanging the system?
[07:12] <Neel03> hello world :)
[07:12] <bakarat> et_, o btw, if it helps, when i go into hibernate, it first gives the message "screen is locked", but it continues anyway
[07:13] <bakarat> et_, most applications do not "lock" the screen iirc?
[07:14] <et_> bakarat: if there is, I don't know what it is. As to hibernate, I think that's normal. It's locking the screen so that, if your computer is accessed when it wakes up, the baddies can't get at your data.
[07:15] <et_> bakarat: do you kpackagekit for updates?
[07:15] <bakarat> et_, ah hehe, hadn't seen that warning before :>
[07:15] <bakarat> et_, no, synaptic
[07:15] <bakarat> et_, and/or apt-get
[07:16] <bakarat> et_, uh, not synaptic, i mean the update manager
[07:16] <bakarat> et_, whatever program that is :>
[07:17] <et_> bakarat: Let's take a shot in the dark. Open synaptic, go to file, and select history. See if the update is listed there (by date).
[07:18] <bakarat> et_, nope, not there :(
[07:19] <iconmefisto> does aptitude show update history?
[07:20] <iconmefisto> I mean, can aptitude do that
[07:22] <et_> iconmefisto: take a look at /var/log/aptitude
[07:25] <et_> bakarat: you might want to look at /var/log/dpkg.log
[07:26] <bakarat> et_, /var/log/apt/term.log seems to be more complete
[07:26] <et_> Oh, OK. I always use Aptitude, so my term.log is blank.
[07:26] <bakarat> :>
[07:29] <bakarat> et_, http://pastebin.com/m212cb508
[07:33] <et_> bakarat: regarding your hanging app, you might take a look at ksystemlog (or the GNOME equivalent). Looking at your file, I would expect gdm to be the troublemaker, but I think it could be anything in the list.
[07:35] <judgen> i have a tiny problem.. not a showstopper.  but kdm refuses to start at bootup. I have to start it manually from cli. Kinda renders the usage of kdm void of purpose.
[07:36] <judgen> I might as well just use the xinit script and skip kdm alltogether.
[07:36] <judgen> but it aint as pretty. (i know im fickle)
[07:39] <et_> judgen: is this a new problem?
[07:57] <judgen> et_: yup never had it before
[07:57] <judgen> but then again i usually use kde3.
[07:58] <et_> Well then, I must ask THE QUESTION, what has changed since it last worked properly?
[08:01] <judgen> i installed kdm4 =P
[08:02] <et_> How did you install it?
[08:02] <judgen> regular aptitude install
[08:03] <et_> If you were using kde3, does that mean you're using an older Ubuntu?
[08:05] <judgen> no 9.10
[08:05] <judgen> im still using kde3 and kde4 in paralell.
[08:05] <judgen> when i launch kdm4 i just choose wich session i want.
[08:07] <judgen> kde3 is installed in /opt/kde3 whilst kde4 is installed in the regular location.
[08:08] <et_> Okay, let me see if I understand: you installed 9.10 (comes with KDE 4.3), you then install KDE3 (from source?), update kdm, and now get a console logon?
[08:08] <judgen> No i installed kde3 first.
[08:08] <judgen> then installed kde4
[08:12] <judgen> does that make sense?
[08:12] <et_> judgen: let's try sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[08:12] <et_> judgen: not really, but that's OK.
[08:13] <judgen> i used the official kde3 repos after installing ubuntu 9.10 via netboot.
[08:15] <et_> That sounds more advanced than anything I've tried.
[08:15] <judgen> i always use netboot, then i dont have to burn an entire cd.
[08:16] <et_> I use USB keys for the same reason.
[08:53] <Cuddletauren> is it true that kpackagekit sucks?
[08:57] <leif> hello.  who isn't ready for Christmas yet?
[09:06] <bakarat> uh, my mouse buttons stop working when i use vmware player, any suggestions?
[09:06] <homer-80> my wireless doesn't work, I installed wicd and it disabled network management, how can I solve with wifi?
[09:32] <subito> since i've upgraded to kubuntu 9.10, my boot bar is all messed up on the startup (i'm talking about the one looking like this: http://www.net-actuality.org/images/news/31-07-07_9034.png) is it a known bug of 9.10?
[09:33] <subito> ok, it's not a very important problem, but still :d
[09:34] <alveraan> Hi there. I'm having trouble with the kde4 shutdown/reboot/... button (kickoff menu). Clicking it doesn't do anything. Has anyone experienced the same problem? Does anyone know what that button actually does or if it's configurable?
[09:35] <Mamarok> alveraan: it works fine here, what KDE version do you have?
[09:38] <alveraan> Mamarok, well, it's kde 4, latest version in 9.10 stable, all upgrades applied.
[09:39] <Mamarok> which is KDE 4.3.2 then
[09:39] <Mamarok> that button should work, don't you see a small window appear in the middle of the screen?
[09:40] <alveraan> yes I do, but clicking it has no effect. The button disappears and the next time I try, even the "middle" window doesn't appear. poweroff command in terminal works fine
[09:47] <alveraan> Mamarok, I guess whatever script / command that is executed "behind the scene" hangs. If only I knew what that button does I could try to get more output or some error message using the terminal. But google doesn't help much :-(
[09:48] <Mamarok> alveraan: well, it shows you what you basically can see in the menu when you go on that part of it: it ask you if you want to use suspend, shutdown or reboot
[09:49] <Mamarok> alveraan: did you try removing the widget and put it back again?
[09:51] <alveraan> Mamarok, I tried to but I don't know how. The menu editor doesn't seem to offer that option.
[09:52] <Mamarok> you did put it in the panel, right?
[09:52] <Mamarok> the button I mean
[09:52] <Mamarok> right click on it to remove it, then click on the cashew at the extreme right and add widget again
[09:53] <alveraan> Mamarok, nope I'm talking about the button that it part of the kde menu
[09:53] <Maex> Hi!
[09:53] <Mamarok> oh, that is strange, I thought you wer talking about the widget
[09:53] <alveraan> Mamarok, the "leave" button. See here: http://www.prashanthellina.com/images/kde4_menu.gif
[09:54] <Mamarok> alveraan: did you ever click on that button? it should show you another menu
[09:55] <dihae> hello
[09:55] <Maex> Problem: I tried to install Kubuntu 9.10 on my Desktop PC, but there came some errors (I think) and when the GUI came up it said "ubuntu will be logged on. A hard error occured" (translated from german ^^). Now there is the login-screen, but I didn't create an user!
[09:55] <Maex> What's wrong there?
[09:55] <Mamarok> alveraan: above, where you can choose all the options
[09:56] <dihae> I take it that virtuoso isn't packaged yet?
[09:56] <Mamarok> Maex: what does it say exactly in German?
[09:56] <Mamarok> dihae: no, not yet
[09:56] <Maex> "ubuntu wird angemeldet... Es ist ein schwerer Fehler aufgetreten. Sehen sie bitte in den Protokolldateien..."
[09:56] <dihae> nevermind, I just found kubuntu's todo list
[09:56] <Mamarok> well, you need to check the log files, the error is described there
[09:56] <Mamarok> Maex: else, we can only guess
[09:57] <Maex> Where do I find them?
[09:57] <Mamarok> Maex: are you sure it says "angemeldet"?
[09:57] <alveraan> Mamarok, yes. When I click that button, the options appear above. Then, when I click on "Shutdown" nothing happens. Sorry if I didn't give enough details ;-)
[09:57] <Maex> Yes
[09:58] <Mamarok> alveraan: well, you said just shutdown button, so I assumed you were talking about the widget
[09:58] <Mamarok> alveraan: try adding the widget to the panel and try that
[09:58] <Mamarok> Maex: so while you were installing, before you even added your name for the user settings, it switched?
[09:59] <Maex> I placed the CD into the drive, the PC boots from the CD, I clicked "Install Kubuntu".
[09:59] <Maex> Wait, wait, wait
[10:00] <Maex> Error message --> Login window
[10:00] <Mamarok> Maex: the log files are all written to /var/log, but I don't think there even are any, as the user settings is done before you install something
[10:00] <Maex> I also was not able to set the partitions
[10:01] <Maex> Or to "deinstall" Windows
[10:01] <Mamarok> Maex: well, then something is wrong with your machine. Can you actually run the Live CD?
[10:02] <Maex> Mamarok: The LiveCD wants the Login, too
[10:02] <Maex> Perhaps I have to format the HDD first... With Knoppix or something else
[10:02] <Mamarok> when you start your computer with the Live CD?
[10:02] <alveraan> Mamarok, ok I'll try it. Thank you
[10:04] <Mamarok> Maex: when you start your computer with the Live CD?
[10:04] <Maex> Mamarok: The LiveCD wants the Login, too
[10:04] <Maex> But I'll try it again
[10:05] <Mamarok> Maex: if you start the live CD and run Kubuntu from the live CD it will not ask for any login entries
[10:05] <Mamarok> else you have a very strange CD
[10:06] <Maex> Now the CD is tested
[10:06] <Mamarok> Maex: also, it's pointless to use Knoppix, it is just another Live CD and would install Knoppix instead, doesn't make much sense
[10:06] <Mamarok> Maex: well, start Kubuntu from that CD, without installing
[10:06] <Maex> Ok, I'll try
[10:06] <Mamarok> if it doesn't run, then you have a serious hardware problem
[10:07] <Maex> "Check finished: errors found in 1 file!"
[10:08] <Maex> That could be the problem
[10:08] <shadeslayer> Maex: i think you should rewrite the CD
[10:09] <Maex> Search for a new blank CD
[10:09] <shadeslayer> Maex: cant you boot off a USB?
[10:11] <Maex> hmm, nice idea ;)
[10:11] <shadeslayer> Maex: its a pretty good option :P
[10:11] <Maex> Do I have to set something in the BIOS?
[10:11] <Maex> Or how does my PC know it?
[10:12] <shadeslayer> Maex: yeah set the primary boot device to USB
[10:12] <shadeslayer> Maex: booting off the USB should be supported by your BIOS though....
[10:12] <Maex> kk
[10:12]  * Maex searches an USB Stick
[10:16] <Maex> hmm... i have to download Kubuntu again,right?
[10:16] <Maex> I still have the .iso
[10:16] <Maex> Alternate i386?
[10:16] <Mamarok> !usb
[10:16] <Mamarok> Maex: see here
[10:17] <Maex> RTFM, Maex...
[10:17] <Maex> Stupid noob ^^
[10:17] <Mamarok> you said that :)
[10:17] <Maex> right
[10:18] <Mamarok> Maex: keep in mind that we can't read for you, so if we recopy that information it would be the same as sending you to the right place
[10:19] <shadeslayer> Maex: btw if youre on windows i would recommend unetbootin....
[10:20] <Maex> I like the way with the virtual drive...
[10:20] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: btw i think the kde beta 2 packages hit the kubuntu ppa repo :)
[10:21] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: well, as long as it is not officially announce on the website, it doesn't exist for the user, that should be the rule
[10:21] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: hmm...
[10:21] <Mamarok> I am sick of debugging people who install from staging that explicitelx says "DO NOT INSTALL"
[10:22] <Mamarok> so stick to the rules, advertising before the team has said so is simply lame
[10:22] <lovre> hi all. need some help. When trying to install package 'pstocanonbj' (it doesnt really matter what for), i get the following message: "The following packages have unmet dependencies: pstocanonbj: Depends: libcupsys2 (>= 1.2.3)".... So now i try to install libcupsys2 but it says: "Package libcupsys2 is a virtual package provided by: libcups2 1.4.1-5ubuntu2.1"
[10:22] <lovre> So what is this all about, if libcups2 is at latest version
[10:22] <Mamarok> lovre: then try installing the last package mentioned ^^
[10:23] <Mamarok> sudo apt-get install libcups2
[10:23] <lovre> Mamarok: i did, it says its at latest version:::?
[10:23] <Mamarok> oh, you didn't say that :)
[10:23] <Mamarok> sorry, my bad, didn't see your last line
[10:24] <lovre> what could be the problem
[10:24] <Mamarok> lovre: where did you get that package pstocanonbj from?
[10:24] <shadeslayer> lovre: i cant find the package you say in the repo
[10:24] <Mamarok> neither can I
[10:24] <lovre> shadeslayer: yes, its custom package, i have followed this to install my printer: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=487890&highlight=ip1500
[10:26] <shadeslayer> lovre: um... theres no karmic at the end of the repo... not sure that if its a requirement or not :P
[10:26] <lovre> shadeslayer: i dont think so. Anyway, when i do sudo apt-get update, it gets stuck at 94% while trying to acces archive.getdeb.net,,,,,,?
[10:27] <shadeslayer> lovre: same here :)
[10:27] <lovre> shadeslayer: so that has nothing to do with this?
[10:27] <lovre> shadeslayer: maybe just the server getdeb is down
[10:27] <shadeslayer> lovre: nope...
[10:27] <lovre> ?
[10:27] <lovre> shadeslayer: so what do i do...
[10:27] <shadeslayer> lovre: the repo in the forums is a http://mambo.kuhp.kyoto-u.ac.jp repo not a getdeb repo
[10:27] <lovre> shadeslayer: ye
[10:28] <lovre> shadeslayer: hmm. so what now
[10:28] <shadeslayer> lovre: lemme think :)
[10:28] <shadeslayer> lovre: post no. 7
[10:28] <lovre> shadeslayer: can i check if my version of libcupsys2 is >= 1.2.3, and if not, look into upgrading
[10:29] <shadeslayer> lovre: yeah : apt-cache policy libcupsys2
[10:30] <lovre> shadeslayer: oops: Installed: (none)
[10:30] <shadeslayer> lovre: ><
[10:30] <lovre> shadeslayer: could it be cups is not installed?
[10:30] <shadeslayer> lovre: yes!!!
[10:30] <shadeslayer> lovre: install libcupsys2 with : sudo apt-get install libcupsys2
[10:31] <lovre> i allready did that, error: Package libcupsys2 is a virtual package provided by: libcups2 1.4.1-5ubuntu2.1
[10:31] <lovre> shadeslayer: ^
[10:32] <shadeslayer> lovre:one sec
[10:32] <shadeslayer> lovre: um i can install it just fine :)
[10:32] <lovre> shadeslayer: :ooo
[10:33] <lovre> shadeslayer: when i try it says: You should explicitly select one to install.... i would, but how?
[10:33] <shadeslayer> lovre: enable the karmic security and updates
[10:33] <shadeslayer> +repos
[10:34] <shadeslayer> lovre: it says :500 http://archive.ubuntu.com karmic-security/main Packages : so its in security
[10:34] <lovre> erm, how do i enable that?
[10:34] <lovre> shadeslayer: ^
[10:34] <shadeslayer> lovre: well edit you sources and uncomment the security update repo
[10:37] <lovre> shadeslayer: well, its all already uncommented
[10:37] <shadeslayer> lovre: hmm.... whats the complete output of apt-cache policy  libcupsys2
[10:38] <lovre> libcupsys2:
[10:38] <lovre>   Installed: (none)
[10:38] <lovre>   Candidate: (none)
[10:38] <lovre>   Version table:
[10:38] <FloodBotK3> lovre: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:38] <lovre> oops
[10:38] <shadeslayer> lovre: :o candidate none ?
[10:38] <lovre> shadeslayer: thats what it says
[10:39] <lovre> shadeslayer: :(
[10:39] <shadeslayer> that is very weird.... what release are you on?
[10:40] <lovre> shadeslayer: kubuntu 9.10
[10:41] <shadeslayer> lovre: ok,pastebin your sources please
[10:41] <lovre> shadeslayer: second
[10:42] <lovre> shadeslayer: http://pastie.org/752929
[10:42] <lovre> shadeslayer: can i maybe download libcupsys2 as a installation file or something
[10:45] <shadeslayer> lovre: i think youre missing sources
[10:45] <lovre> :o
[10:45] <lovre> shadeslayer: maybe you could give me your sources to fill in
[10:46] <shadeslayer> lovre: best way : http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/
[10:46] <rd1381> is there any desktop search tool that can search in my tags that i give to files in dolphin?
[10:46] <lovre> shadeslayer: what is this
[10:46] <shadeslayer> pretty awesome sire
[10:46] <lovre> shadeslayer: ah
[10:46] <shadeslayer> lovre: repo generator
[10:46] <lovre> shadeslayer: cool :D
[10:46] <shadeslayer> rd1381: nepomuk
[10:47] <lovre> shadeslayer: should i check everything?
[10:47] <shadeslayer> rd1381: just press alt+F2 and type the tag name
[10:47] <rd1381> shadeslayer:nepomuk is not a search client
[10:47] <rd1381> and i use gnome
[10:47] <rd1381> but want to be able to use dolphin tags
[10:47] <shadeslayer> lovre: i think its best if you replace the complete list by the one generated
[10:47] <lovre> shadeslayer: i see, ok, one minute
[10:48] <shadeslayer> rd1381: i dont know if thats even possible.... i lost all my tags when i reinstalled so...
[10:48] <rd1381> shadeslayer: do you know where tags  are stored?
[10:48] <shadeslayer> rd1381: nope
[10:49] <shadeslayer> rd1381: probably a nepomuk database somewhere in ~
[10:49] <rd1381> ok
[10:49] <subitoo> i have a problem with the boot splash screen (i think it's uplash): the display is all 'buggy'
[10:49] <rd1381> i run nepomuk service in gnome and i am able to tag files but sop far i cant use strigi
[10:50] <rd1381> it says indexing and documents index is -1
[10:50] <shadeslayer> lovre: http://pastebin.com/f5bf3570a << my sources
[10:50] <lovre> shadeslayer: how do i add theese GPG keys?
[10:51] <Peace-> !gpg
[10:51] <shadeslayer> lovre:there should be instructions,something like wget
[10:52] <lovre> shadeslayer: ok, thank you alot! I have to go now, but will be back later.... Thank again
[10:54] <subitoo> hi, where is stored the yakuake history?
[10:56] <cuznt> !yakuake
[10:56] <subitoo> cuznt: it's ok actually is .bash_history
[10:57] <subitoo> it's*
[10:59] <Maex> USB-device doesn't work... -.-
[10:59] <subitoo> my ctrl+r command doesn't work anymore in the konsole, does someone have an idea?
[10:59] <shadeslayer> Maex: whats the problem
[11:00] <mouna> CIAO
[11:00] <Maex> Set the boot device to USB in the BIOS, but error comes up
[11:00] <shadeslayer> Maex: whats the exact error?
[11:01] <Maex> Have to look again... w8 plz
[11:01] <shadeslayer> Maex: ok :)
[11:02] <shadeslayer> Maex: idk how long i can IRC more though :P
[11:02] <shankly> hi all, today I want to polemize. Why for opensuse, fedora and even gentoo, are avalaible kde 4.4 beta 2 packages and for ubuntu we have to wait every time 2 weeks???? why is kubuntu considered like a kids game??
[11:03] <shadeslayer> shankly: ah you may not know but 4.4 packages just hit the repos... im upgrading right now
[11:03] <Maex> White on black: "Boot Failure. Reboot and Select proper Boot device or insert Boot Media in selected Boot device. Press any key when ready"
[11:03] <shadeslayer> shankly: 4:4.3.85-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa2
[11:04] <shadeslayer> Maex: hmm... how did you create the USB>
[11:04] <Maex> UNetbootin
[11:04] <shankly> shadeslayer: i'm happy for that, and I apologize.
[11:04] <shadeslayer> hmm... did you select the correct ISO? like 32 bit or 64 bit?
[11:04] <Maex> Yes
[11:05] <Maex> Formatting to FAT should not be the problem, right?
[11:05] <shadeslayer> Maex: it should be fat...
[11:05] <Maex> ok
[11:05] <shadeslayer> Maex: try writing the USB again...
[11:05] <shadeslayer> Maex: if it doesnt work md5sum the iso
[11:05] <Maex> :-| ok
[11:06] <shadeslayer> Maex: this can take a few tries :P
[11:06] <shankly> shadeslayer: but every time I read on kde.org "Packages for opensuse,fedora..... are avalaible", and I don't see kubuntu in the list I'm frustrated
[11:06] <shadeslayer> shankly: take it out in kde then... we dont have control over kde.org :P
[11:06] <shadeslayer> #kde i mean
[11:07] <shadeslayer> shankly: and frankly whether or not kubuntu is on that list hardly matters
[11:07] <shankly> shadeslayer: So, I can join the kde channell and say that are avalaible beta 2 packages?
[11:08] <shadeslayer> shankly: well not officially no
[11:08] <shadeslayer> shankly: i said they hit the repo... no official announcements
[11:08] <shadeslayer> shankly: frankly im taking a risk by upgrading :P
[11:09] <shadeslayer> brb
[11:11] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: wrong target
[11:11] <subitoo> i have a problem with the boot splash screen (i think it's uplash): the display is all 'buggy'; Have someone solved this problem?
[11:11] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: eh?
[11:11] <Mamarok> shankly: it is a Beta release, not meant for productive use
[11:12] <Mamarok> shankly: just be patient, once our poor nijias get around packaging everything (rememebr they do voluntary work and are not payed for that) you will get those packages
[11:12] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: hes arguing that kubuntu should be mentioned along side other distros in the kde 4,4 beta 2 announcement
[11:12] <Mamarok> it really makes no difference if you get those today or tomorrow, it is beta anyway
[11:12] <shadeslayer> yep
[11:13] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: well, if the packages are not ready, you can hardly advertise them
[11:13] <shadeslayer> and its a increase of only .05
[11:13] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: yes thats what i told him.. its not official
[11:14] <Mamarok> so there is really nothing the KDE people can do about that
[11:15] <Mamarok> all distros with packages ready that day are mentioned, usually
[11:15] <shankly> Mamarok: I know It's not for productive use, but only for testing
[11:15] <shadeslayer> moreover suse has more people on KDE than kubuntu... so more community support there
[11:18] <Mamarok> shankly: well, if you like testing, then you did the first step to become a packager :)
[11:19] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: btw amarok from git doesnt like scripts alot :P
[11:20] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: you put it the wrong way again: scripts are 3rd party, if their authors don't keep up with our pace, their problem
[11:20] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: but that doesn't belong here anyway
[11:20] <Maex> Now: Next try
[11:20] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: of course
[11:21] <shadeslayer> Maex:so did it boot?
[11:21] <Maex> USB-Stick is ready again
[11:21] <shadeslayer> Mamarok: btw anyway to md5sum a USB stick ? :P
[11:22] <Mamarok> shadeslayer: you can run md5 checksums on everything, it jut doesn't make sense if it is not an iso
[11:23] <Mamarok> just*
[11:23] <Mamarok> not in this context
[11:23] <shadeslayer> ah..
[11:23] <DEac-> moin moin
[11:23] <Maex> Same error
[11:23] <Maex> T_T
[11:24] <shadeslayer> Maex: i have no idea.... :(
[11:25] <shadeslayer> Maex: see the link !usb gave you
[11:26] <DEac-> i've a problem with my screensaver (kubuntu 9.10, kde4 ofcourse): everytime it doesn't accept my password
[11:26] <Maex> Yes, I looked it up, but do you think that will help?
[11:26] <shadeslayer> Maex: btw you have set the primary boot device to USB right?
[11:26] <Maex> Of course
[11:26] <shadeslayer> Maex: yes
[11:27] <Maex> Perhaps I should try the good old CD-method
[11:27] <shadeslayer> Maex: ok one last thing... try pressing F12 and select the USB
[11:27] <shadeslayer> (during reboot
[11:27] <Peace-> not every usb flash card are good for booting
[11:27] <DEac-> this line, i read in my auth-log: Dec 22 10:46:35 Cadmium dbus-daemon: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.21" (uid=1000 pid=2003 comm="kdeinit4: plasma-desktop [kdeinit]") interface="org.freedesktop.DBus.Introspectable" member="Introspect" error name="(unset)" requested_reply=0 destination=":1.316" (uid=0 pid=1846 comm="/bin/login))
[11:29] <DEac-> nobody any idea, what's the reason of my problem?
[11:31] <wotan> hi, i heard you are trying to replace konqueror as default browser in the next release, did you think about use chromium? or do you prefer a kde/qt app?
[11:31] <Maex> The USB is away again... I'll try it next time with CD
[11:31] <shadeslayer> wotan: i think itll be a KDE app... rekonq is a good contendet
[11:31] <Maex> Thnx for your help!
[11:31] <shadeslayer> *contender
[11:31] <shadeslayer> Maex: hope you get it working :)
[11:31] <wotan> shadeslayer: maybe a chromium fork with a  qt GUI? :)
[11:32] <Maex> Never give it up ^^
[11:32] <shadeslayer> wotan: hmm.. if someone can develop one
[11:32] <shadeslayer> firefox+kde was a fail though :P
[11:32] <wotan> yeah
[11:33] <wotan> but i think right now it's the best browser in linux, and a lot of people would like it as default browser
[11:33] <shadeslayer> yep
[11:35] <DEac-> rekonq is nice
[11:35] <shadeslayer> DEac-: which version are you using?
[11:36] <DEac-> shadeslayer: kubuntu 9.10 ;)
[11:36] <shadeslayer> DEac-: which rekonq version?
[11:36] <DEac-> shadeslayer: i only installed it via aptitude and start one time
[11:37] <shadeslayer> DEac-: do you have kubuntu backports?
[11:37] <DEac-> no
[11:37] <shadeslayer> ah.. youre on 0.2.... 0.3 is much much better
[11:37] <DEac-> ok
[11:37] <DEac-> backports?
[11:38] <shadeslayer> DEac-: yeah... kubuntu backports
[11:38] <DEac-> ok
[11:39] <DEac-> rekonq 0.2 doesn't know shortcuts
[11:40] <shadeslayer> DEac-: cookie management is bad too... cant open gmail and stuff
[11:41] <DEac-> i hope backports aren't so unstable
[11:41] <shadeslayer> DEac-: nope theyre pretty stable
[11:42] <shadeslayer> DEac-: you can compile 0.3 if you like
[11:42] <subitoo> i have a problem with the boot splash screen (i think it's uplash): the display is all 'buggy'; Have someone solved this problem?
[11:42] <DEac-> and i hope, it resolves my problem with screensaver
[11:48] <subitoo> is there a way to change the output sound of qsynth?
[11:57] <maek0> how to install KDE 4.4 beta 2 so its separate to my GNOME DE ??
[11:59] <shadeslayer_> maek0: just install : kubuntu-desktop
[12:00] <maek0> yeah but it puts all the KDE software in my gnome menu .. I don't want that .. I remember testing out KDE 4 when it first came out and there was a way of installing it in /opt/ or something
[12:02] <shadeslayer_> no idea on that
[12:19] <ghostcube> hmm, is the possibility to cancle services in karmic again ossible by sudo /etc/init.d/foobar stop start restart
[12:43] <wsjunior> anybody got webcam working with kopete and msn protocol?
[12:46] <vzduch> !anybody
[12:48] <millun> ok, how to make Pulseaudio work?
[12:48] <millun> again
[12:49] <millun> you know, when trying to play mp3 in amarok, it complains about going back to some default audio device.... from nvidia digital to nvidia analog
[12:57] <ladywillow> hi guys, I've got a problem with kubuntu 8.10. I've inserted an audio cd on my cd drive, but I can't listen to it... please help me
[13:02] <dariom> ladywillow: what kind of program are you trying to use to listen to it?
[13:02] <ladywillow> vlc or amarok
[13:03] <dariom> ladywillow: does it happen with every audio cd?
[13:04] <ladywillow> dariom: yes, and it happens with dvds, too.
[13:04] <millun> sounds like pulseaudio fucked up on you, too
[13:05] <Maex> Guys: New tests!
[13:05] <dariom> ladywillow: audio is working right?
[13:05] <Maex> I tried to reinstall WinXP
[13:05] <Maex> Didn't work: "Boot Failure..." The same as booting from USB
[13:06] <ladywillow> dariom: no, I can't hear mp3 or anything else
[13:06] <dariom> ladywillow: ah, ok, so basically your audio seems not to work
[13:06] <ladywillow> dariom: yes, you got it
[13:07] <dariom> ladywillow: do you have the kmix applet?
[13:07] <dariom> on your kde desktop?
[13:07] <ladywillow> dariom: I don't think so
[13:08] <dariom> ladywillow: ok, so ALT+F2, and write KMix
[13:08] <rysiek|pl> hi guys
[13:08] <Maex> Mamarok?
[13:08] <dariom> ladywillow: done?
[13:09] <Mamarok> Maex: ?
[13:09] <Maex> Did you read my lines? Any idea?
[13:09] <ladywillow> dariom: yes, I saw the KMix icon
[13:09] <Mamarok> Maex: about the boot failure? Yes
[13:10] <Mamarok> and no, I have no idea, didn't install Windows in ages
[13:10] <Mamarok> Maex: when does it say "Boot failure"?
[13:10] <dariom> ladywillow: ok, now make sure to raise all your volume controls
[13:11] <Maex> When it tries to boot from the CD
[13:11] <dariom> ladywillow: you find all of them in the "mixer" area
[13:11] <Mamarok> Maex: are your BIOS settings correct?
[13:11] <Maex> Until now everything worked good
[13:11] <ladywillow> dariom: done
[13:12] <dariom> ladywillow: was it there any at 0%?
[13:12] <ladywillow> dariom: but I think it's important to show you this message:
[13:13] <dariom> ladywillow: also, make sure you don't have any channel to "mute"
[13:13] <ladywillow> mount: dispositivo a blocchi /dev/scd0 è protetto da scrittura, viene montato in sola lettura
[13:13] <ladywillow> dariom: it means, that my device is protected from writing
[13:15] <Cuddletauren> audio cd playback is deprecated
[13:29] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:53] <funcrush> I wanna rotate all windows with alt+tab, but i can't, i just rotate windows in a screen, anybody help me?
[13:54] <dariom> funcrush: what do you mean by rotate?
[13:54] <funcrush> dariom: sorry my english is poor,
[13:54] <dariom> funcrush: pass between an application to another?
[13:54] <funcrush> hm....
[13:55] <Vroomfondle> funcrush: System Settings -> Window Behavior
[13:55] <funcrush> yup
[13:55] <Vroomfondle> then click "Traverse Windows On All Desktops" uner "Window Switching"
[13:55] <Vroomfondle> *under
[13:55] <funcrush> Vroomfondle: wow thanks!!!!
[13:56] <funcrush> dariom, Vroomfondle: thank you for ur helping! :)
[13:58] <Vroomfondle> no problem :)
[14:01] <pabloz> hi guys, can anybody tell me how can I remove hebrew (wtf?), and the English flavors that I don't intend to use from the system? (default English installation), is it possible?
[14:01] <pabloz> btw: karmic
[14:04] <mime> hi all, when i vonect mu nfts hdd usb drive only makes noise and cant open it, but detected. in xp works, had make scandisck an cheched for errors. any idea? thnx
[14:07] <Maex> shadeslayer?
[14:07] <shadeslayer> Maex: yes?
[14:07] <Maex> you helped me, right?
[14:07] <Maex> ^^
[14:07] <shadeslayer> kind of yeah :P
[14:08] <Maex> I tried to reinstall WinXP, but the error came uo again
[14:08] <Maex> *up
[14:09] <shadeslayer> Maex: win XP?
[14:10] <Maex> Yes, just to see where the problem is. And so it is not the USB and not the Win-CD
[14:11] <mime> hi all, when i conect my nfts hdd usb drive only makes noise and cant open it, but detected. in xp works, had make scandisck an cheched for errors. any idea? thnx
[14:17] <shadeslayer> Maex: hmm... so nothing is booting?
[14:17] <Maex> the HDD does
[14:18] <shadeslayer> Maex: i mean no OS?
[14:18] <Maex> No OS from the CD or USB. WinXP is still installed on the HDD
[14:19] <shadeslayer> Maex: hmm... so Win XP boots?
[14:19] <Maex> yep
[14:20] <shadeslayer> Maex: btw in order to boot the CD you have to set the primary boot device to CD
[14:20] <Maex> I know ;)
[14:21] <shadeslayer> Maex: hmm so neither the CD nor the USB is booting...
[14:21] <Maex> Right
[14:22] <shadeslayer> Maex: same error from CD as well?
[14:22] <Maex> Yep
[14:22] <shadeslayer> Maex: did you md5sum the ISO?
[14:22] <shadeslayer> !md5sum | Maex
[14:23] <Maex> I'll read it
[14:23] <shadeslayer> Maex: the download is probably corrupted or something
[14:29] <Maex> shadeslayer: Everything ok
[14:29] <Maex> With the ISO
[14:29] <shadeslayer> Maex: the md5sums match?
[14:29] <Maex> yeah
[14:34] <shadeslayer> Maex: btw you have which CD?
[14:34] <Maex> what do you mean
[14:34] <Maex> ?
[14:35] <shadeslayer> Maex: alternate or the normal CD?
[14:36] <Maex> normal
[14:37] <theking> merhaba
[14:38] <shadeslayer> Maex: hmm.... ok try and mount the CD in windows with daemon tools and try the wubi install,then use the usb creator in wubi to create a bootable USB and try booting off the USB
[14:39] <Maex> So I can use the USB Creator on my Ubuntu Laptop? ^^
[14:47] <subitoo> how can i use my sound for other apps when qsynth is started?
[14:48] <reagleBRKLN> does this URL cause anyone else's Konq to overload the CPUs? http://rpy.sourceforge.net/index.html
[14:49] <DEac-> shadeslayer: kde 4.4 beta is really unstable on my machine. i'll remove backports
[15:07] <soee> hi
[15:17] <ghostcube> !upstart
[15:18] <ghostcube> ok now whats the corrct syntax to start stop services in karmic and up
[15:18] <ghostcube> sudo service foo stop
[15:18] <ghostcube> or sudo foo stop
[15:19] <ghostcube> *stop foo
[15:19] <llutz> sudo service foo stop
[15:19] <ghostcube> thx :)
[15:39] <dondino_> hello
[15:39] <dondino_> I need some help.. who can try to help me?
[15:40] <dondino_> I have installed Ubuntu 9.10 for the first time today. I played with it some time.. then I said.. its not the one I want. Some people suggested me to pass to Kubuntu, and see if KDE fits better for me.. and they made me issue a command from the console : "sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop". I issued that command from the 9.10 consolle, and it started to download packages, and then install..all in console. At one point it stoppe
[15:40] <shadeslayer> dondino_: yes and?
[15:40] <dondino_> how come it starts with the terminal?
[15:40] <shadeslayer> dondino_: have you dropped to a shell?
[15:40] <dondino_> i dont see menus.. taskbar...
[15:40] <dondino_> anything.
[15:41] <shadeslayer> dondino_: oh has everything installed?
[15:41] <dondino_> I dont know.... thats why i asked... maybe something went wrong?
[15:41] <osos> have logged out from ubuntu?
[15:41] <dondino_> its normal that kubuntu starts with just aterminal window?
[15:41] <shadeslayer> dondino_: whats the out put of the terminal now?
[15:41] <shadeslayer> dondino_: no just logout and choose KDE
[15:42] <dondino_> the prompt is the name of my pc
[15:42] <dondino_> with the dollar
[15:42] <dondino_> its right
[15:42] <dondino_> if i exit the terminal
[15:42] <dondino_> it brings again to the login screen
[15:42] <shadeslayer> dondino_: ok cool just logout and press alt+F10 and choose kde and login back
[15:42] <dondino_> ok wait
[15:43] <shadeslayer> dondino_: btw did you choose kdm or gdm during the kde install?
[15:43] <dondino_> if i press alt + f10 in the welcome login screen
[15:43] <dondino_> nothing happens
[15:43] <dondino_> i chosed KDM
[15:43] <dondino_> during the installation thru console
[15:44] <shadeslayer> dondino_: good :)
[15:44] <dondino_> i tried to click in the little button
[15:44] <shadeslayer> dondino_: there should be 2 buttons at the bottom
[15:44] <dondino_> at the bottom right
[15:44] <shadeslayer> yes
[15:44] <dondino_> in the login screen.. and clicked KDE
[15:45] <dondino_> now it started
[15:45] <shadeslayer> yep..
[15:45] <dondino_> but
[15:45] <shadeslayer> dondino_: welcome to KDE :P
[15:45] <dondino_> there's still the console window open
[15:45] <dondino_> is it normal?
[15:45] <FloodBotK3> dondino_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:45] <shadeslayer> dondino_: can you imagebin a screenshot?
[15:45] <dondino_> now i'm on windows pc
[15:45] <shadeslayer> dondino_: eh?
[15:45] <dondino_> i have the kubuntu pc beside me
[15:46] <shadeslayer> dondino_: ah... ok do you see anything other than the konsole?
[15:46] <dondino_> yes in the background there's an uBlog window.. with configure button
[15:46] <dondino_> then I finally can see the taskbar... etc .. and also a desktop folder
[15:46] <shadeslayer> dondino_: ok you have KDE.. there should be a taskbar at the bottom
[15:47] <dondino_> but now, everytime i start up the computer, i always have to choose KDE before logging?
[15:47] <shadeslayer> dondino_: um by default you should log into KDE
[15:47] <dondino_> lets see, i try to reboot it
[15:47] <shadeslayer> dondino_: ok
[15:48] <shadeslayer> btw is there another power management backend in the repos?
[15:49] <dondino_> yes
[15:49] <dondino_> now KDE starts by default! but.. can you tell me how can I automatically hide the start of the terminal window at boot, I dont want it...
[15:49] <dany> oi
[15:50] <shadeslayer> dondino_: hmm well just close it :P
[15:50] <dany> hey
[15:50] <shadeslayer> it wont start next time
[15:50] <shadeslayer> dany: yes
[15:50] <dondino_> lol.. so easy??
[15:50] <pabloz> sorry, is "hebrew" part of the english language pack? (system spellchecker)
[15:50] <shadeslayer> yeah'
[15:51] <pabloz> shadeslayer: sorry was that answer for me?
[15:52] <shadeslayer> pabloz: no :P
[15:52] <pabloz> ah, ok
[15:55] <dondino_> shadeslayer, another question...  I tried to logout and choose GNOME. But now a windows comes up says i have to inster a password to unlock the ... carry-key or something like that.. if i put the user's password it doesnt work
[15:55] <pabloz> ok, if anyone knows / finds some way to remove unused languages from the spellchecker [Hebrew, English (South Africa), ...] while keeping others [English, English (United States of America)], please let me know
[15:56] <shadeslayer> pabloz: remove the language packs?
[15:57] <pabloz> shadeslayer: how?
[15:57] <vit> "·di$
[15:57] <shadeslayer> pabloz: sudo apt-get remove language-pack-kde-he
[15:57] <pabloz> is not installed
[15:58] <shadeslayer> pabloz: thats for hebrew.. find out the rest on your own :P..
[15:58] <shadeslayer> pabloz: logout and log in again
[15:58] <pabloz> that's the point...
[15:58] <shadeslayer> dondino_: no idea
[15:58] <shadeslayer> pabloz: and run kbuildsycoca4
[15:58] <shadeslayer> pabloz: also remove language-pack-kde-he-base
[16:02] <pabloz> shadeslayer_:  $ sudo aptitude show language-pack-kde-he-base language-support-he language-support-he|grep State
[16:02] <pabloz> State: not installed
[16:02] <pabloz> State: not installed
[16:02] <pabloz> State: not installed
[16:02] <FloodBotK3> pabloz: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:05] <Panasonic1988> Just wait until rain turn to sunshine,cause I hate to spend, my life, my life, my life, my life
[16:05] <Panasonic1988> Duckin one-time!!Lost Soul!!
[16:06] <dondino_> are there any other alternatives between KDE and GNOME?
[16:06] <maco> sure!
[16:06] <maco> xfce (xubuntu)
[16:06] <maco> lxde (lubuntu)
[16:06] <dondino_> can u tell me how can i add also xubuntu directly from the terminal console? (to download and install packages automatically?)
[16:07] <maco> or you can go the route of not quite a desktop environment but rather a window manager and then you mix & match your applications... ex: enlightenment, fluxbox, icewm
[16:07] <maco> sudo aptitude install xubuntu-desktop
[16:07] <dondino_> no.. I have just made a plain install of ubuntu 9.10 and then added kubuntu... and now.. oh thanks, i try :)
[16:08] <dondino_> abd for ...lubuntu is "sudo aptitude install lubuntu-desktop" ?
[16:10] <dondino_> is it then possible to install something else? :)
[16:10] <shadeslayer_> dondino_: yeah... theres X11,pekwm,icewm etc
[16:11] <shadeslayer_> !desktop
[16:11] <dondino_> which is the most complete graphical interface? KDE?
[16:11] <shadeslayer_> dondino_: its your choice ;P
[16:12] <dondino_> I would like something as close as possible to my old windows :( i miss it
[16:13] <shadeslayer_> dondino_: old windows?
[16:13]  * genii ponders WFW 3.11
[16:13] <shadeslayer_> dondino_: well you can make KDE look like Win 7
[16:13] <dondino_> yeah I am not supposed to use windows xp anymore...
[16:13] <shadeslayer_> genii: hehe...
[16:13] <millun> what do you do when you can't get rid of kscreenlocker?
[16:13] <dondino_> shadeslayer, is there a package or something?
[16:13] <maco> pkill kscrenlocker
[16:13] <maco> er...
[16:14] <maco> pkill kscreenlocker
[16:14] <millun> well, sure thing. but will there EVER be a fix?
[16:14] <maco> thats how i get back into my computer when it starts rejecting the proper password (which is unfortunately quite common)
[16:14] <shadeslayer_> dondino_: no just customizations
[16:14] <maco> hopefully :)
[16:14] <millun> yes, maco. it is VERY common
[16:14] <millun> happens on daily / hourly basis
[16:14] <millun> :)
[16:15] <millun> and what about "falling back to <foo> sound device" problem? will there EVER be a fix to this? or should i really remove pulseaudio or what
[16:15] <shadeslayer_> dondino_: just add the smooth tasks plasmoid to the taskbar,use the glassified theme and some plugins in the desktop settings such as highlight window and voila!
[16:16] <maco> millun: i think thats just a stupid error message
[16:16] <maco> millun: if you put pulseaudio at the top instead of the bottom, you shouldnt get it though :)
[16:16] <millun> how do you fix that?
[16:16] <millun> ok
[16:16] <shadeslayer_> btw is there some other power management daemon for KDE?
[16:17] <shadeslayer> my brightness increases and decreases in steps of 2 :P
[16:17] <maco> millun: in systemsettings, go to multimedia and put pulseaudio at the top of all the lists
[16:17] <dondino_> would be possible to install DEBIAN or anthoer distro right directly from Ubuntu and choose which one to start with?
[16:17] <maco> millun: then itll prefer pulseaudio instead of "falling back" from direct hardware mode to pulseaudio mode
[16:17] <maco> dondino_: afaik, debian only has a from-windows installer
[16:18] <dondino_> and other distros?
[16:18] <millun> cheeers
[16:18] <millun> maco
[16:18] <maco> dondino_: thats up to the distro whether they have a way to install from a different distro
[16:19] <shadeslayer> dondino_: nah i dont think thats possible but you can boot off the ISO's of those distros with grub2
[16:19] <maco> dondino_: i know debian can be installed from windows using goodbyemicrosoft.com (i think thts the url)
[16:19] <maco> well there IS lubi
[16:19] <maco> so it is possible
[16:19] <maco> lubi is the linux counterpart to wubi
[16:19] <dondino_> yes but i make you an example. I used to have a pc which could boot in 3 different ways: XP PRO - win 2003 - VISTA
[16:19] <maco> but i dont know what distros have used it
[16:19] <dondino_> would be possible to make the same with LINUX and different distros?
[16:20] <maco> yes of course you can triple boot
[16:20] <maco> just saying i dont think you can do the installation from within ubuntu. youd still need to boot from a cd
[16:20] <maco> or a flash drive if your computer can do that
[16:20] <dondino_> ahh... that way yes...
[16:21] <dondino_> i installed xubuntu but... its Xfce in the menu now?
[16:21] <shadeslayer> dondino_: yep
[16:21] <shadeslayer> anyone know how to use powerdevil daemon?
[16:23] <dondino_> i would answer but...
[16:23] <dondino_> your questions are too complicate :P
[16:23] <shadeslayer> dondino_: hehe... :)
[16:23] <Tm_T> shadeslayer: you click on buttons (;
[16:24] <shadeslayer> Tm_T: the problem is when i start power devil my brightness goes wonky.... increases in 2 steps,when i stop it,its fine
[16:24] <shadeslayer> ah its in kdebase
[16:25] <dondino_> hmmm when I try to install also Lubuntu, this time it says it has to remove some dependancies, and packets.. like for example network.-manager gnome and plasma widget network management...
[16:25] <dondino_> Will I have then problems.. using gnome?
[16:26] <shadeslayer> dondino_: maybe
[16:26] <dondino_> yeah it says that xubuntu recommends those packets..
[16:26] <dondino_> and points are -412..
[16:27] <maco> lubuntu might not use network manager
[16:27] <maco> id go with not removing them
[16:27] <dondino_> if i try other solutions..
[16:27] <dondino_> they are even worse..
[16:27] <dondino_> -9712 points
[16:28] <dondino_> better not install.........
[16:30] <shadeslayer> dondino_: its better not to mess about alot of things
[16:31] <dondino_> right,
[16:31] <dondino_> anyway i find xubuntu nice as interface,
[16:31] <dondino_> I will use it for a while..till i learn something
[16:46] <fa4anaheim> I can't get the sound to work on my computer...
[16:58] <fa4anaheim> I can't get the sound to work on my computer...
[17:16] <rossini> ciao
[17:17] <rossini> ciao
[17:17] <rossini> ciao
[17:24] <progmanos> Hmm...the beta builds of Kde SC 4.4 Beta 1 for Kubuntu only have the Folders and Desktop containments.
[17:24] <progmanos> It's missing quite a few other containments
[17:39] <rossini> ubu
[17:45] <soee> any ideas how can i set my sound to 5.1 ?
[17:47] <estres> #ubuntu-es
[17:47] <estres> #supremos
[17:48] <estres> #kde-es
[17:48] <estres> #debian-es
[17:48] <progmanos> the beta packages of kde sc 4.4 are missing the search containment and newspaper containment
[17:49] <progmanos> i'm thinking about recompiling the packages myself and uploading them to my ppa
[17:50] <progmanos> it annoys me that other distros have these features enabled and kubuntu doesn't
[17:52] <JontheEchidna> progmanos: install plasma-netbook :/
[17:52] <JontheEchidna> We had these features before any distro ever did, we even dedicated resources to an entire netbook remix for Kubuntu 9.10
[17:54] <progmanos> so, those features are solely for netbooks?
[17:55] <JontheEchidna> they can be used on desktop computers too, but they are mainly components of the Plasma Netbook shell
[18:05] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[18:06] <rasmus> sker der
[18:13] <progmanos> !ubottu
[18:14] <alexandernst> Has anyone upgraded to kde 4.4beta2 ?
[18:15] <alexandernst> I want to upgrade but I get a warning that 6 packages will be removed and 2 wont get updated
[18:15] <progmanos> !botsnack
[18:17] <EvilRoey> hello
[18:17] <danielsp> Hello!
[18:17] <EvilRoey> Anyone here trying out the KDE 4.4 beta2?
[18:17] <EvilRoey> oh hey!!
[18:17] <danielsp> No, I'm 4.3
[18:17] <danielsp> sry
[18:17] <EvilRoey> Steely Dan, what's up :)
[18:17] <EvilRoey> ah
[18:17] <EvilRoey> I tried, it didn't work (no startkde found) and now I want to go back to kde 4.3
[18:17] <EvilRoey> 4.3.4
[18:18] <EvilRoey> only that I don't know *how*
[18:18]  * EvilRoey scratches head.
[18:18] <progmanos> EvilRoey: it works fine for me.
[18:18] <EvilRoey> progmanos:  really?  I have dependency issues here:
[18:19] <gorgonizer> working well here too, seems a lot more stable than 4.4 B1..
[18:19] <EvilRoey> http://pastebin.com/m2563736
[18:19] <EvilRoey> I know it's some sort of deps issue
[18:19] <danielsp> how can I upgrae to 4.4 ?
[18:19] <EvilRoey> I don't think I ahve all the packages installed.
[18:20] <EvilRoey> danielsp:  better to wait till it comes out in February
[18:20] <danielsp>  :(
[18:20] <EvilRoey> hrm
[18:20] <EvilRoey> EagleSn:  sadeagle??
[18:20] <EvilRoey> Maks?
[18:21] <EagleSn> EvilRoey: what?
[18:21] <progmanos> EvilRoey, try upgrading your current packages first.
[18:21] <EvilRoey> EagleSn:  nm
[18:21] <EvilRoey> progmanos:  I tried, it says they're all their latest version
[18:22] <progmanos> EvilRoey: post the output in a pastebin
[18:23] <progmanos> and post your sources.list
[18:23] <FloodBotK3> !netsplit
[18:24] <danielsp> I can't use Kpackage to install updates on my system.  I receive a message that no network found
[18:25] <danielsp> but everyday I get the new bug warnings and update warnings
[18:26] <EvilRoey> progmanos:  ok:
[18:26] <EvilRoey> progmanos:  http://pastebin.com/m2563736
[18:27] <EvilRoey> progmanos:  http://pastebin.com/m58680a3a
[18:27] <EvilRoey> the second is the sources.list
[18:27] <progmanos> EvilRoey: you're only trying to install one package with that command ;-)
[18:27] <EvilRoey> the first is what I get when I try to install konqueror.
[18:28] <EvilRoey> progmanos:  the package is not kde-desktop; what is it?
[18:28] <EvilRoey> kubuntu-desktop?
[18:28] <progmanos> EvilRoey: run sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[18:28] <EvilRoey> http://pastebin.com/m6815daa0
[18:28] <EvilRoey> ah
[18:28] <EvilRoey> ok
[18:29] <EvilRoey> er ok now what?
[18:29] <EvilRoey> it removed phonon :P
[18:30] <danielsp> I can't use Kpackage to install updates on my system.  I receive a message that no network found
[18:30] <danielsp> but everyday I get the new bug warnings and update warnings
[18:30] <danielsp> can someone help?
[18:31] <EvilRoey> progmanos:  what now?
[18:32] <progmanos> EvilRoey: use aptitude and the dependency resolver in it
[18:32] <MoscowAudiA6> People.  Anybody know UML-designer for linux?
[18:32] <EvilRoey> progmanos:  http://pastebin.com/m5b3fcce3
[18:32] <EvilRoey> hrm.
[18:33] <EvilRoey> progmanos:  it proposes downgrading to 4.3.2
[18:33] <EvilRoey> Downgrade the following packages:
[18:33] <EvilRoey> kdebase-data [4:4.3.85-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1 (now) -> 4:4.3.2-0ubuntu3 (karmic)]
[18:34] <progmanos> EvilRoey: can you post a screenshot?
[18:34] <progmanos> http://imagebin.ca/
[18:34] <EvilRoey> ok
[18:34] <EvilRoey> well I'm using commandline apttitude
[18:35] <EvilRoey> progmanos:  http://pastebin.com/m38a9395
[18:35] <progmanos> Are you using a DE?
[18:35] <EvilRoey> I'm sshing into my home box from work
[18:35] <EvilRoey> where work is kde 4.3.4
[18:35] <EvilRoey> home /was/ kde 4.3.4, now it's sort of broken, I guess ;)
[18:35] <EvilRoey> can't find startkde
[18:36] <EvilRoey> I added that last deb line there and then did update && dist-upgrade
[18:36] <progmanos> have you tried upgrading all of your packages?
[18:36] <EvilRoey> yes.
[18:36] <progmanos> EvilRoey: sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[18:36] <MoscowAudiA6> ﻿Somebody say me name of any UML-designer for linux﻿﻿
[18:37] <EvilRoey> progmanos:  http://pastebin.com/m3b710095
[18:37] <alexandernst> MoscowAudiA6: netbeans?
[18:38] <MoscowAudiA6> 81,3MБ   OK   I am installing
[18:40] <progmanos> EvilRoey: open aptitude with sudo aptitude and then try install kubuntu-desktop
[18:40] <progmanos> installing*
[18:41] <progmanos> search for the broken packages using the keyboard shortcut 'b'
[18:41] <EvilRoey> progmanos:  http://pastebin.com/m72966d7b
[18:42] <EvilRoey> 'b' doesnt' work here at the y/n prompt
[18:43] <progmanos> EvilRoey: run sudo aptitude update first
[18:44] <EvilRoey> and then what, safe-upgrade?
[18:44] <EvilRoey> progmanos:  or back to install kubuntu-desktop?
[18:45] <progmanos> lol.  EvilRoey: you have the ppa commented out in your sources.list
[18:46] <progmanos> uncomment it and it should work.  ;-)
[18:48] <ioob> hey all, having some trouble installing kubuntu. I grabbed the alternate x64 9.10 image from the website, but it fails during install. I get a message asking me to insert another disc that i dont have. I have checked my disk integrity and everything checks out. any ideas?
[18:48] <EvilRoey> progmanos:  ooh, good point :O)
[18:48] <EvilRoey> The following packages have been kept back:
[18:48] <EvilRoey>   gwenview kdegraphics-strigi-plugins kdepim-groupware kdepim-kresources kdepim-runtime kdepim-wizards ktimetracker libkdepim4
[18:49] <EvilRoey> I did sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade and got that as the first part; then the rest of the packages which are getting upgraded came next
[18:51] <ioob> the specific error message is as follows: please insert the disc labeled: 'Kubuntu 9.10 _Karmic Koala_ - Release amd64 (20091027)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[18:51] <FloodBotK1> !netsplit
[18:51] <ioob> it gives me the option to go back or continue, both of which don't do anything. and i can't open my cdrom drive
[18:54] <robert______> hello I have KDE 4.4 Beta 2 and I can't find quick tilling, does anybody know where I can find it?
[18:55] <JontheEchidna> robert______: while dragging a window, bring your mouse to any edge of the screen
[18:55] <ioob> hello, I'm trying to install Kubuntu on my system using the advanced 9.10 x64 cd. While installing the base system, it asks me to insert a different disc, and won't continue with the install. I have checked the disc integrity and everything checks out. Any ideas what could be wrong?
[18:56] <robert______> doesn't work, maybe it is off
[18:57] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Did you burn the disk yourself? iso..?
[18:57] <ioob> fa4anaheim, i burned the disc myself from an iso using brasero on my debian system
[18:58] <ioob> fa4anaheim, just downloaded the iso this morning from the kubuntu site via bitorrent http://torrent.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/simple/karmic/alternate/kubuntu-9.10-alternate-amd64.iso.torrent
[18:58] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Ok, when it tells you to insert the other disk, does it say what disk? A title or something..?
[18:59] <ioob> fa4anaheim, yeah, it says "please insert the disc labeled: 'Kubuntu 9.10 _Karmic Koala_ - Release amd64 (20091027)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter"
[18:59] <ioob> fa4anaheim, and there are options to 'go back' or 'continue', both of which just highlight continue and don't do anything else
[18:59] <impy_> Hey guys, I am running ubuntu remix, 8.04, can I change the font color of my menu?
[19:00] <impy_> Well, not menu, the bar on the top of my screen, not sure what it is called
[19:02] <fa4anaheim> ioob: What OS is on the machine now?
[19:03] <ioob> fa4anaheim, it was Windows Vista Ultimate x64, but since Kubuntu has started installing, the drive has been reformatted, and it obviously won't boot
[19:04] <fa4anaheim> Right, Intel or AMD?
[19:04] <ioob> fa4anaheim, Intel
[19:05] <ioob> fa4anaheim, is the alternate 64bit disc for amd only? I've noticed that it has amd in the disc title. If this is the case, can I get an x64 Intel disc, or do I need to use the x86 alternate disc?
[19:05] <hagabaka> yay, I have desktop effects again!
[19:07] <fa4anaheim> Well I can't figure out why it is prompting you to insert the AMD64 cd if you have an X86 chip...hangon, I am going to try a install on another machine and see if I can get the same result...
[19:07] <ioob> fa4anaheim, thank you. Is there any harm to just using the x86 alternate disc? I know that in theory, the x64 disc will utilize my system resources better, but...
[19:08] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Not unless you are setting up RAID 5, are you?
[19:10] <ioob> fa4anaheim, No, I have an existing hardware RAID1 formatted with NTFS
[19:10] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Ok, and just to be clear, you are not setting up a dual boot machine?
[19:11] <ioob> fa4anaheim, No, I will be running Kubuntu, and probably a WinXP VM just for Visual Studio
[19:12] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Ok, what do your partition tables look like? (For this install of course)...
[19:12] <islington> is it possible to add the newpaper activity to plasma-desktop. I am trying out kde 4.4 b2
[19:12] <ioob> fa4anaheim, I just used the guided full disk partition. No LVM, all partitions on the same disk. I think it's just a swap and an ext4
[19:13] <fa4anaheim> Ok, I am firing up the install now...standby...
[19:13] <ioob> fa4anaheim, will do, thank you
[19:13] <fa4anaheim> ioob: np
[19:16] <lady> canal:
[19:19] <islington> is it possible to add the newpaper activity to plasma-desktop. I am trying out kde 4.4 b2
[19:23] <FloodBotK1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[19:24] <ioob> fa4anaheim, are you still here after all of that nonsense?
[19:24] <islington> is it possible to add the newpaper activity to plasma-desktop. I am trying out kde 4.4 b2
[19:25] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Yea...I'm trying a few different setups for the partitioning...
[19:26] <lady> buh
[19:26] <ioob> fa4anaheim, just to clarify, I have two logical disks. One is an NTFS formatted RAID1. I want to leave that one alone and install Kubuntu on the other logical disk. Didn't know if I mentioned both before
[19:27] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Ok, you're second disk, is it part of the RAID?
[19:28] <ioob> fa4anaheim, no. It is all on it's own.
[19:28] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Ok good, are they IDE or SATA?
[19:28] <ioob> fa4anaheim, All are SATA, the RAID1 is intel onboard hardware
[19:28] <ioob> fa4anaheim, the RAID1 has the backup of all of the files that i wish to keep on it, so i'd rather not lose it if possible
[19:29] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Ok, well all sounds good...did the Karmic Installer even see the RAID?
[19:30] <ioob> fa4anaheim, I first tried with the graphical installer. It saw the raid, but when I tried to choose the other disk from the drop down box, the installer crashed. At that point, I downloaded the alternate disk. It can see the RAID, turns on support for it, and gives me the option to install to it. I chose to install to the other disk instead and to leave the RAID alone
[19:32] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Ahhh, ok. Sounds like the Intel chipset is wanting to overide the installer, couple of options...
[19:32] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Are you wanting to mount the RAID1 once Kubuntu is installed?
[19:33] <EvilRoey> hola
[19:33] <EvilRoey> is kipi-plugins available for the kde 4.4b2 ppa?
[19:33] <ioob> Yes, at which point I'll shuffle all of my data around and reformat it to ext4, then move the data back
[19:34] <ioob> fa4anaheim, it can stay NTFS for now if possible
[19:34] <newbie> what is rdf virtuoso server?
[19:36] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Ok, well we either need to change the BIOS or the hard drive configuration...the Intel chipset is set to operate with the RAID1 protocal which is contridicting what we are trying to do with the Karmic install...
[19:36] <ioob> fa4anaheim, so do i need to break the RAID apart? or can I change the install options
[19:38] <fa4anaheim> ioob: No, you shouldn't have to mess with it. I just setup my RAID5 with RAID1 behaivor so now I am going to try another install...
[19:39] <ioob> fa4anaheim, thanks. The RAID1 isn't terribly important. I've thought about breaking it apart anyway. The only important thing is that I don't lose the data that's on it
[19:41] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Ok, well since it is the data that is important and not the setup we had better just leave it alone for now...if it was RAID0 then we'd really be screwed! :)
[19:42] <ioob> fa4anaheim, if you run RAID0 without any kind of a data backup, you probably deserve to lose your data :P
[19:42] <Galvatron> Hi
[19:42] <fa4anaheim> ioob: True
[19:43] <Galvatron> Using Opera mouse gestures causes system freeze.
[19:43] <Galvatron> The only responding thing is "jumping" cursor" and I must reset
[19:44] <Novice> Nedd help getting HPOfficejet 6310 all in one to scan have tried sane and XSane and it's making me insane!
[19:44] <Galvatron> When it happened today, I tried to unplug keybord (Logitech PS/2) and mou7se (Logitech USB)
[19:45] <Galvatron> After replugging the keybord, PC got a hard reset
[19:45] <Galvatron> My OS is Kubuntu 9.04
[19:46] <Vroomfondle> unplugging a PS/2 keyboard can be a bad idea on older computers. It can make them get upset & reboot.
[19:47] <Vroomfondle> as it appears to be Opera-related, to be honest you might have more luck asking on their user forums though
[19:48] <Vroomfondle> at first glance it seems like a bug in Opera, though it might be a bug in QT I guess
[19:48] <Galvatron> I had it in Opera 10.10 and now the same thing with 10.20 Alpha 1
[19:48] <Galvatron> But there's something more
[19:49] <Galvatron> Sometimes monitor turns off on its own just after booting
[19:49] <Galvatron> And sometime the system doen't boot with an I/O error tty
[19:50] <Vroomfondle> that's a bit odd.
[19:50] <Galvatron> I have  Radeon 9200SE with open drivers
[19:50] <Vroomfondle> sounds like Linux doesn't like your motherboard, perhaps
[19:51] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Is your optical drive SATA aswell?
[19:51] <Galvatron> Epox P4X400D (Via chipset)
[19:52] <Galvatron> The motherboard issu could explain Opera/mouse problems
[19:52] <ioob> fa4anaheim, optical drive is IDE. Also, the drive that I'm trying to install to is IDE. Sorry, gave you the wrong info before.
[19:52] <EvilRoey> Galvatron:  you were made a  Texas Transistors?
[19:52] <ioob> fa4anaheim, Both RAID1 drives are SATA, the drive want to install to and the optical are both IDE
[19:53] <Vroomfondle> Galvatron: yes, it might explain that
[19:53] <EvilRoey> Galvatron:  btw... so it is definitively proven that Galvatron formed from Megatron?
[19:54] <Vroomfondle> I don't know that motherboard though. I think the best you can do is probably to ask on the Ubuntu forums and google around for "epox p4x400d linux" or something
[19:54] <fa4anaheim> ioob: That's ok...so her inlies the problem...try this, disconnect the RAID array from the mobo, then see if you can reboot and launch the installer...let me know what happens...I'm still tinkering around with my setup here but nothing yet :[
[19:56] <ioob> fa4anaheim, the machine didn't yell at me, and the installer is started. Will I be able to re-enable the SATA RAID1 after the install?
[19:58] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Yes, I just wanted to see if you're BIOS were ok, and sounds like they are. Most of the time if you are using any RAID on SATA then when you're machine boots up the only thing it is looking for on an IDE channel is other media, optical, floppy, etc...
[19:59] <ioob> fa4anaheim, should i proceed with the install with the RAID1 drives disconnected?
[19:59] <ioob> fa4anaheim, and if so, what partitioning options would you recommend, knowing that I'll want to reconnect the RAID1 after the install? Can I use an LVM to make everything appear as a single logical disk?
[20:01] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Yea, continue with install, Karmic has a bootstapper for RAID and it sounds like it was trying to do just that to you...
[20:02] <ioob> fa4anaheim, when installing, should i use an LVM so that I can add the raid after, or should i just use the entire disk? I haven't really used LVM's much in the past aside from full disk encryption, so i'm not sure exactly what's possible
[20:03] <fa4anaheim> ioob: how big is the hd?
[20:03] <ioob> fa4anaheim, 500GB
[20:03] <ioob> fa4anaheim, the RAID1 is also 500GB
[20:04] <the_cyber_guy> i have selected to remove a panel from plasma desktop and suddently it crashed and now i m unable to add panel, pls help
[20:04] <maco> alt+f2 and run "plasma-desktop" maybe?
[20:05] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Not worth it...LVM isn't really necessary until you cross the 5TB line...I'm typing up the partitioning table I use
[20:05] <the_cyber_guy> didnt worked either
[20:05] <ioob> fa4anaheim, thanks, I'd like to see how it's supposed to be done
[20:05] <fa4anaheim> ioob: ioob: PRIMARY/ext4/boot (500mb)PRIMARY/ext4/root (<20gb) PRIMARY
[20:06] <ioob> fa4anaheim, the guided partitioner has given me a 12GB swap and a 488GB root, but no boot
[20:07] <ioob> fa4anaheim, i assume that it hasn't forgotten about the boot
[20:07] <fa4anaheim> ioob: No, how much RAM do you have?
[20:07] <ioob> 4GB
[20:07] <ioob> fa4anaheim, isn't the rule of thumb RAM*2 + 2GB
[20:08] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Yea, and that's plenty, linux does not "require" a boot partition but I always throw it in so I don't crowd my ~/ with boot logs and errors.
[20:09] <ioob> fa4anaheim, so Kubuntu doesnt necessarily give me a boot part by default? Debian does it automatically
[20:11] <fa4anaheim> ioob: On a x64 system Karmic will use part of the RAM + swap to "host" the boot session. Once the xserver is launched it closes the com and clears out the bytes.
[20:11] <ioob> fa4anaheim, that's fancy. My install is proceeding normally. do you mind if i msg you once it's done for a hand getting the RAID set up?
[20:12] <ioob> fa4anaheim, scratch that, the error is back again.
[20:12] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Really, ok on to the BIOS...
[20:12] <ioob> fa4anaheim, this should be fun
[20:13] <fa4anaheim> ioob: It always is...not. :O Question; what optical drive are you using?
[20:14] <dwayne> Hello what's the IP address of the official servers?
[20:14] <dwayne> Apt-get seems to be trying to get info from 10.114.204.40
[20:15] <ioob> fa4anaheim, it's an Optiarc DVD RW
[20:15] <Novice> Could someone tell me how to convert pnm file to pdf?
[20:15] <ioob> fa4anaheim, the funny thing about this whole situation is that the live disc runs fine. I just can't get a full install done
[20:16] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Optiarc, Sony I think..?
[20:17] <ioob> fa4anaheim, that's what Google tells me. it doesn't have any external markings. it's always just worked for me. any reason why you'
[20:17] <ioob> fa4anaheim, sorry, any reason why you suspect it may be the problem?
[20:17] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Yea...
[20:18] <Tm_T> dwayne: that ip is meant to be used in "private network" ... which means LAN or similar local network
[20:18] <fa4anaheim> ioob: ...sorry I'm chatting with my brother, (unix master!)...
[20:18] <dwayne> Tm_T: Ok I'm trying to figure out why it's proxying
[20:19] <Tm_T> dwayne: you are using wlan?
[20:19] <dwayne> apt-get is connecting to that let me see what kpackagekit is saying
[20:19] <dwayne> no wireless
[20:19] <Tm_T> roger
[20:19] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Before we mess with the BIOS I want to look at something...You said you downloaded the .iso today?
[20:21] <ioob> fa4anaheim, that is correct. I used the 'alternate 64bit' link at http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[20:21] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Ok...
[20:23] <Galvatron> I dont know why, but I can't enable ctrl+alt+backspace shortcut to restart X in my 9.04
[20:23] <Galvatron> I tried disabling dontzap
[20:24] <Galvatron> And other methods
[20:24] <Galvatron> And still no effect
[20:25] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Is you're computer hooked up to the net?
[20:26] <ioob> fa4anaheim, yes, it has a LAN connection
[20:27] <fa4anaheim> ioob: And you said that you are or are not going to use LVM?
[20:27] <Galvatron> I have no checkbox for that in System Settings > Display
[20:27] <dwayne> Tm_T: kpackagkit is connecting to that same IP
[20:27] <ioob> fa4anaheim, doesn't matter to me at all. i just wanted to know how it would affect my RAID array when I brought it back online
[20:28] <osos> Galvatron: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap#Ubuntu Jaunty 9.04
[20:28] <Scrappyfoot> I'm trying to resolve some dependencies so I can install the latest ktorrent. http://pastebin.com/dfa798e3 . Should I use sudo aptitude remove -f ? Even if it wants to get rid of kubuntu-desktop?
[20:29] <dwayne> Tm_T: Where can I check for what would be holding this proxy info?
[20:30] <Tm_T> dwayne: I have no idea, I never use proxies (in a way I have to manage them)
[20:30] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Oh, ok. Yea it won't, not unless you were planning on formating the RAID aswell. Ok, well I would give the desktop version a try...I'm still talking with my Brother, he said that Karmic Alt CD has had problems with some of the newer drives, so if you are just usin the graphical guide install then you don't really need to use the Alt CD...
[20:30] <dwayne> Tm_T: Ok can I assume that if apt-get is connecting to a proxy then it's below the KDE level?
[20:30] <ioob> fa4anaheim, what is the difference between the desktop cd and the one that is downloaded by default if you just hit the download button?
[20:30] <Tm_T> dwayne: possibly yes
[20:31] <Galvatron> osos: I have 9.04 NOT "9.10 or higher";)
[20:32] <osos> Galvatron: look at the contents.
[20:32] <dwayne> !proxy
[20:33] <fa4anaheim> ioob: The desktop CD launches the Karmic desktop where you can then install it, as opposed to the "regular" install cd...this can be useful for us so we can use bash and other error logs to see what is going on before we actually install it to you're drive...
[20:34] <Galvatron> The "Server Flag" doesn't work
[20:34] <dwayne> Never mind
[20:34] <dwayne> found it
[20:34] <fa4anaheim> ioob: I need to restart, I'll be back in a few...
[20:35] <Galvatron> I did it already
[20:35] <dwayne> Tm_T: /etc/apt/apt.conf
[20:35] <Tm_T> dwayne: you have proxy set there?
[20:35] <jinaakko> hi
[20:36] <dwayne> Tm_T: HAD ;-)
[20:36] <Tm_T> roger
[20:40] <ioob> fa4anaheim, wb
[20:43] <aledream> ciao
[20:43] <aledream> ragazzi
[20:44] <Tm_T> !it | aledream
[20:44] <aledream> ok
[20:44] <aledream> scusate
[20:44] <fa4anaheim> ioob: I'm back...
[20:45] <ioob> fa4anaheim, wb. I'm just burning the desktop x64 disc right now. Should I leave the RAID1 drives unplugged during the installation?
[20:45] <caliga> hi! after installing xorg-driver-fglrx, i do not have the module fglrx. modprobe: FATAL: Module fglrx not found. Any hints?
[20:46] <fa4anaheim> ioob: You should be able to plug them back in...if not we can just unplug them again...
[20:47] <ioob> fa4anaheim, ok trying the install now
[20:47] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Ok, keep me posted...
[20:48] <Novice> Could someone tell me how to convert pnm file to pdf?
[20:49] <fa4anaheim> Novice: sudo apt-get install netpbm
[20:49] <Novice> scanned some images with xsane and need to convert them to pdf
[20:50] <ioob> Novice, just did a google search, this page might help you, but it looks like you'd have to convert to png in between: http://linux.about.com/od/linux101/l/blnewbie5_19.htm
[20:50] <genii> Could just load them into OpenOffice Writer and export to pdf
[20:51] <caliga> can somebody please help me to get fglrx working?
[20:51] <Novice> fa4anaheim: apears netpbm is allready installed any clues on how to use it
[20:54] <fa4anaheim> Novice: Yea, cd to the dir with the files then: for pic in *.pnm, do pnmtojepg "${pic}" > "{pic}-converted.jpeg"
[20:56] <Novice> fa4anaheim: thx for the info but you lost me there
[20:57] <fa4anaheim> Novice: That's ok. In Shell, cd to the folder with the files you want to convert...
[21:01] <Novice> fa4anaheim: like this cd/home/david/documents
[21:04] <fa4anaheim> Novice: Yep, then; for pic in *.pnm...
[21:05] <Novice> fa4anaheim: want pnm to pdf
[21:08] <Novice> fa4anaheim: trying to follow your instructions above but what are the symols for are they required
[21:10] <fa4anaheim> Novice: Sorry...yes, the * means all or it will convert all files of that type. I assume you want to do a "batch" conversion, as opposed to one at a time...
[21:10] <Novice> fa4anaheim: correct
[21:11] <fa4anaheim> Novice: Then yes include the * FYI, if you were to want to convert a single file you would simply type the filename where the * is...
[21:13] <Novice> fa4anaheim: could you give me an example with this Florida Annual Sales Tax page1.pnm
[21:15] <Novice> fa4anaheim: Will be writing this stuff down!
[21:16] <BluesKaj> Novice, make a text file and add to it as you learn new commands , and save every time you add or edit of course
[21:17] <Novice> fa4anaheim: ah thats a good idea as oposed to writing
[21:17] <fa4anaheim> Novice: Sure, pnmtojpeg "${Florida Annual Sales Tax page1}" > "${Florida Annual Sales Tax page1}-converted.jpg"
[21:18] <BluesKaj> give each command a meaning /refernce ,then you can refer back to the file
[21:19] <Novice> fa4anaheim: whats the jpeg for
[21:19] <fa4anaheim> Novice: So, this takes "page1" and converts it and saves the file with the same file name and adds "-converted" to the end...
[21:19] <Novice> fa4anaheim: same as pdf ?
[21:19] <fa4anaheim> Novice: You can make a single pdf from multiple jpeg images...
[21:20] <r4v3nsw0rd> what is the use of the activity bar?
[21:21] <fa4anaheim> Novice: Do you have ImageMagick installed?
[21:21] <Novice> fa4anaheim: beyond my scope for now I just need pdf couse taxes are due the firt of the year and dont want to get hit with penalties
[21:21] <fa4anaheim> Novice: If so, then you can do a direct .pnm to .pdf...
[21:22] <Novice> fa4anaheim: just replace jpeg with pdf?
[21:22] <fa4anaheim> Novice: netpbm will not to a direct pnm to pdf but ImageMagick will...
[21:23] <ioob> fa4anaheim, just a heads up that I've managed to get the graphical installer running, but only with the RAID1 drives unplugged. I'll need a little guidance on how to migrate them back into the system after install
[21:23] <Phyber0ptik> is it possible to open kdewallet automatically on startup?
[21:24] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Good news! No, problem...let me know when you are ready...
[21:24] <fa4anaheim> Phyber0ptik: Yes, what ver are you running?
[21:24] <Phyber0ptik> version of kubuntu?
[21:25] <Phyber0ptik> 9.10
[21:25] <fa4anaheim> Phyber0ptik: With KDE4.x?
[21:25] <Phyber0ptik> yes
[21:25] <fa4anaheim> Phyber0ptik: Ok, goto System Settings...
[21:26] <Phyber0ptik> ok
[21:26] <fa4anaheim> Phyber0ptik: Click on the Advanced tab...
[21:26] <Phyber0ptik> then KDE wallet probably...
[21:26] <Phyber0ptik> now what
[21:27] <fa4anaheim> Phyber0ptik: Click on the Autostart icon...
[21:28] <r4v3nsw0rd> what is the use of the activity bar?
[21:28] <Phyber0ptik> on the preferances tab?
[21:29] <fa4anaheim> Phyber0ptik: No, backup, it's under the Advanced tab in the Syatem Settings...
[21:29] <Phyber0ptik> im on the advance tab i believe
[21:30] <Phyber0ptik> i get a preferances tab and an access control tabv
[21:31] <fa4anaheim> Phyber0ptik: You are under the KDEWallet option, backup a level...So it should be; System Settings>Advanced (tab)>Autostart
[21:31] <Phyber0ptik> i see now
[21:32] <fa4anaheim> Phyber0ptik: On the right hand side there is a button, Add Program, click on it and select KDEWallet from the tree...
[21:32] <fa4anaheim> Phyber0ptik: Then click Apply...viola!
[21:32] <Phyber0ptik> kwalletmanager?
[21:33] <Phyber0ptik> yay
[21:33] <fa4anaheim> Phyber0ptik: Yea
[21:33] <Phyber0ptik> thank you for the help
[21:33] <fa4anaheim> Phyber0ptik: np
[21:33] <Novice> fa4anaheim: dont know what im doing wrong but still cant get this to work
[21:36] <fa4anaheim> Novice: Ok, do you have ImageMagick installed?
[21:36] <Novice> fa4anaheim: no was trying the commands you told me to do
[21:36] <Novice> fa4anaheim: anyways it did nothing
[21:37] <Novice> fa4anaheim: is imagemagic free
[21:37] <BluesKaj> imagemagick is free , yes
[21:37] <fa4anaheim> Novice: Yes, open KPackageKit and search it...
[21:37] <ioob> fa4anaheim, when you have a moment, I have a working desktop up.
[21:38] <BluesKaj> make sure it's spelled 'imagemagick '
[21:38] <Scunizi> Novice: fa4anaheim or simply open terminal and "sudo aptitude install imagemagick" or sudo apt-get install imagemagick
[21:39] <fa4anaheim> Novice: That too...
[21:39] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Yea! Is there an icon to install..?
[21:39] <Scunizi> usually a little quicker.
[21:39] <r4v3nsw0rd> So does anyone know what the activity bar widget does? It says Desktop for me no matter where I am...
[21:39] <Scunizi> kpackagekit isn't my favorite
[21:40] <ioob> fa4anaheim, Already did that. I have a fully installed desktop in front of me. How do i proceed with adding the RAID array to the system?
[21:40] <Novice> fa4anaheim: says they are automatically installed
[21:40] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Oh, sweet! Hang on...Sorry :/
[21:41] <ioob> fa4anaheim, no problem, take your time
[21:42] <Novice> fa4anaheim: http://pastebin.com/m6553d4f8
[21:44] <fa4anaheim> Novice: Ok, good. If you are still in the dir containing the files then type this: convert x.pnm x.pdf (x being the file name).
[21:45] <Novice> fa4anaheim: could never get to the directory
[21:45] <Scunizi> fa4anaheim: has imagemagick improved its ability to convert a pic to pdf .. I know it had issue in the past
[21:45] <fa4anaheim> Novice: Why?
[21:46] <Novice> fa4anaheim: couse im novice and dont know how
[21:46] <fa4anaheim> Scunizi: For pictures not really, but in this case he has a bunch of scaned text so it should be fine...
[21:47] <fa4anaheim> Novice: That's ok. Go to the folder where they are saved...
[21:47] <Novice> fa4anaheim: does imagemagick have a gui
[21:47] <Novice> fa4anaheim: kk
[21:48] <Novice> fa4anaheim: then
[21:49] <fa4anaheim> Novice: Ok, then at the top of the window do you see a tools menu?
[21:49] <Novice> fa4anaheim: yes
[21:49] <fa4anaheim> Novice: And no it does not have a GUI, at least not that I know of...
[21:50] <fa4anaheim> Novice: Ok, click on tools and go down to "Open in Terminal..."
[21:50] <Novice> fa4anaheim: ok
[21:51] <fa4anaheim> Novice: There?
[21:51] <Novice> fa4anaheim: yes
[21:51] <fa4anaheim> Novice: Ok, now type "convert x.pnm x.pdf" without the quotes, and x being the filename...
[21:52] <BluesKaj> is there a substitude for the run command (alt+f2) ? , mine has disappeared
[21:52] <BluesKaj> substutute
[21:54] <Novice> fa4anaheim: http://pastebin.com/macb06af
[21:55] <Scunizi> Novice: part of your issue it the spaces in the file name.. replace them with underscores "_"
[21:56] <Scunizi> Novice: you can also just start typing the file name and hit TAB for autocompletiton and the system will format it correctly
[21:56] <Scunizi> might look a little weird though
[21:57] <ioob> hey guys, I have Kubuntu 9.10 installed on a dual monitor system, but it seemed to be recognizing both monitors as one and mirroring the desktop over them. I installed the proprietary nvidia drivers for my graphics card, and now it isn't recognizing the second monitor at all. any ideas?
[21:57] <fa4anaheim> Novice: Copy and paste this: http://pastebin.com/m89b8d4f
[21:58] <Scunizi> ioob: from terminal try sudo nvidia-xconfig
[21:59] <lukefeil> ioob: open the nvidia-settings and click on "detect monitors"
[22:01] <Novice> fa4anaheim: http://pastebin.com/m378ac55b
[22:02] <Scunizi> fa4anaheim: that doesn't deal with the spaces in the file names .. you'll get the same results.. put the file names in quotes or use TAB for auto completion and bash will most likely use \ or something similar in the blank spaces
[22:02] <ioob> lukefeil, where is the "detect monitors" in the utility?
[22:02] <ioob> lukefeil, found it
[22:03] <fa4anaheim> Novice: Scunizi is right, put the filenames in quotes...
[22:04] <Novice> wow didnt realize it would take four houes to scan and convert on linux
[22:06] <ioob> fa4anaheim, I have to leave for work shortly, can you give me a quick rundown of what's required to migrate my RAID array into my install so that I can mount it automatically on startup?
[22:07] <Scunizi> Novice: one of the other ways to convert if you can open the files in the scanning program is to just "print" them to a PDF print driver.. you'll have to install the driver though.. not difficult.. it will save the resulting file in a directory called PDF in your /home
[22:08] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Sure, once you hook it back up you have to find out what it is called; fdisk -l | grep NTFS
[22:08] <Novice> Oh thank god I finally got it the quotes worked yeah!!!!!!!
[22:09] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Prob something like /dev/sdb1/ or whatever...
[22:09] <Novice> Thank you all for your help now I can finish this finnaly
[22:09] <Scunizi> Novice: if you have multiple files you want to combine.. pdfshuffler will do it.
[22:10] <fa4anaheim> Novice: Yea!
[22:10] <ioob> fa4anaheim, no output
[22:10] <Scunizi> I think it's called that.
[22:10] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Are they hooked back up?
[22:10] <ioob> fa4anaheim, however, I can actually see the RAID in Dolphin. But it shows up as two separate drives
[22:10] <ioob> fa4anaheim, yes, i can see them. How come it shows two drives in Dolphin?
[22:10] <fa4anaheim> ioob: Ok, then it is not seeing the actual RAID just 2 hdds...
[22:11] <ioob> fa4anaheim, that's correct. I wrote a file to one and it didn't appear on the other
[22:11] <ioob> fa4anaheim, so, i assume i need a driver or something now?
[22:12] <fa4anaheim> ioob: No, we just need to assemble them...tell me what output you get when you type this; fdisk -l | grep raid
[22:14] <ioob> fa4anaheim, it gives me a warning. says that a GPT was detected on /dev/sda and on /dev/sdb, and that fdisk doesn't support GPT. It claims i should use gparted
[22:14] <ioob> fa4anaheim, GNU Parted*
[22:15] <fa4anaheim> ioob: No gparted is the gnome partitioner...
[22:16] <ioob> fa4anaheim, if i have a hardware RAID array, why is the OS seeing it as separate drives? Do I need a driver or some firmware or something for the hardware RAID?
[22:20] <fa4anaheim> ioob: No drivers, RAID is all done at the hardware level...it is prob bc it is NTFS that it is not seeing it as a RAID...
[22:21] <ioob> so i should try to migrate the data over to my install disk and then reformat?
[22:22] <fa4anaheim> ioob: No, shouldn't have to...Karmic is more than able to rw NTFS...
[22:27] <soee> hey guys do u have 2 upgrades blocked after switch to kde 4.4 b2 ?
[22:28] <phoenixz> What is the password of the "ubuntu" user during a Kubuntu installation?
[22:29] <maco> phoenixz: ubuntu
[22:29] <ioob> fa4anaheim, any hints for next steps? or should i give up and google for a bit?
[22:30] <phoenixz> maco: mmm, tried.. my dad is installing ubuntu, I had him install openssh-server, so that I could get in and take over the install, but I cant get in
[22:30] <fa4anaheim> ioob: I would [sudo apt-get install mdadm] RAID manager for linux...
[22:30] <maco> phoenixz: its quieter over here, so lets stick to here\
[22:31] <phoenixz> maco: sure
[22:31] <maco> phoenixz: is dad behind a NAT?
[22:31] <phoenixz> maco: is it possible to get into ubuntu over SSH during install?
[22:31] <maco> after installing openssh-server, if its online, yeah...should be
[22:32] <phoenixz> maco: yeah, but with port forwarding, thats already fixed.. worked before on ku buntu as well but due to a HD crash he needs to reinstall
[22:32] <maco> im not entirely sure you can see the installer from ssh though
[22:32] <phoenixz> maco: Its asking password.. tried ubuntu, cant get in, had him passwd with 12345, but also cant get in
[22:32] <phoenixz> maco: I cant, I know, but I can install x11vnc and take over :)
[22:33] <maco> hmm i dunno then. can you get him to install vnc for you?
[22:33] <phoenixz> But the problem is, I need to be able to get in first, or I cant do anything
[22:34] <phoenixz> maco: I could but that would be my last option, its a bit more complex, because he also needs to run it himself, etc..
[22:34] <maco> gotcha
[22:35] <maco> is he actually not able to go through the install on his own, you think? :-/
[22:35] <maco> im not sure why the ssh wont work...
[22:35] <phoenixz> maco: well, he might but the installer is not behaving as expected, he's seeing something different than he should so I want to see what he sees
[22:36] <maco> i see
[22:42] <Scunizi> phoenixz: is remote desktop on the live cd? can he activate that letting you get in that way?
[22:42] <phoenixz> Scunizi: I only need SSH.. once I got that, I got all
[22:42] <Scunizi> phoenixz: just means another port forward (5900) I think
[22:43] <phoenixz> Scunizi: yeah, but thats all taken care of.. thats not the problem
[22:43] <phoenixz> Scunizi: problem is that I cant get in over SSH, it wont accept any passwords
[22:48] <Scunizi> phoenixz: try without a password.. using kubuntu as the user name
[22:48] <phoenixz> Scunizi: tried that already as wel
[22:48] <phoenixz> well
[22:50] <phoenixz> Scunizi: I finally got in with a newly created user.. strange..
[22:51] <Scunizi> phoenixz: yea.. the default user can be problematic with that sort of thing..
[23:01] <phoenixz> maco: What is the install command?
[23:01] <maco> ubiquity
[23:01] <phoenixz> maco: installing Kubuntu 9.10, for some reason, he does not see the desktop widget where the install icon is located..
[23:01] <maco> weird
[23:02] <phoenixz> maco: gottit, thanks!
[23:05] <Scunizi> phoenixz: you doing this with terminal prompts like the text installer?
[23:05] <phoenixz> Scunizi: I already installed x11vnc and now running all over VNC viewer
[23:07] <Scunizi> phoenixz: ah.. ok.. I didn't know if you could initiate a text based install with the live cd on ssh or not..
[23:07] <phoenixz> Scunizi: yeah, tried that too, but I want my dad to see how to do this so
[23:07] <Scunizi> phoenixz: good for him.. how old is he?
[23:32]  * ryan__ Mofa
[23:33] <LuciusMare> hello,where is KDE's folder where are installed wallpapers?
[23:34] <phoenixz> LuciusMare: /usr/share/wallpapers, IIRC
[23:34] <LuciusMare> no
[23:34] <LuciusMare> there is only one
[23:35] <LuciusMare> the installed through that gui app
[23:36] <LuciusMare> i mean
[23:36] <LuciusMare> er
[23:36] <LuciusMare> there is only one. I mean the installed through "right click on desktop>settings"
[23:36] <LuciusMare> find / -name wallpaperfilename didnt find anything
[23:37] <phoenixz> LuciusMare: mmmm, not sure, let me check
[23:38] <phoenixz> LuciusMare: try ls -l /usr/share/wallpapers
[23:38] <LuciusMare> nope
[23:38] <LuciusMare> oh
[23:39] <LuciusMare> $ ls -l /usr/share/wallpapers
[23:39] <LuciusMare> celkem 4
[23:39] <LuciusMare> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 2009-12-22 20:26 Air
[23:40] <phoenixz> LuciusMare: ls -l /home/sven/.kde/share/wallpapers/
[23:40] <LuciusMare> ^^
[23:40] <LuciusMare> thanks
[23:40] <LuciusMare> bye