crimsun | i_is_broke: what update? I've done a lot of updates recently. | 00:19 |
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i_is_broke | crimsun, sorry was working on the grandbabies christmas presents...and was referring to anything for karmic. | 00:28 |
crimsun | i_is_broke: I've uploaded a bunch of stuff; lucid-changes@ has them listed | 00:30 |
i_is_broke | crimsun, well i havent had any for lucid, how long ago did you upload them? | 00:30 |
crimsun | about 13 hours ago was the last | 00:31 |
i_is_broke | and just a few for karmic. | 00:31 |
crimsun | been at work all day, etc., etc. | 00:31 |
crimsun | alsa-lib is in karmic-proposed | 00:31 |
i_is_broke | yeah that was the one. | 00:31 |
i_is_broke | well there was a couple i think. | 00:32 |
i_is_broke | but i havent seen anything for lucid,and i just did an update too. | 00:32 |
bjsnider | crimsun, does alsa 1.0.22 contain any improvements for my sound card? | 00:33 |
crimsun | bjsnider: I don't know what your sound card is. | 00:33 |
bjsnider | crimsun, i removed pulseaudio 2 years ago because i heard what i thought was a blip and now i need your help to put it back | 00:34 |
bjsnider | just kidding | 00:35 |
bjsnider | i'm trying to ask the types of questions you usually get in here | 00:35 |
i_is_broke | the sad part as i have heard people say that more then once.lol | 00:36 |
bjsnider | how about this one | 00:36 |
bjsnider | i got angry and hacked my sound card up with a jacknife and now i need your help to fix it | 00:36 |
i_is_broke | now when i was running slack instead of ubuntu, i did change out my sound card cause it didnt have the performance i wanted. | 00:37 |
i_is_broke | and of course it was easier to put a sound card in the ask any of them for help, cause of course if your new your stupid, and they dont waste time with stupid people. | 00:38 |
i_is_broke | well back to the grandbabies christmas presents...1 down 2 to go...yeah..:D | 00:40 |
UnHolyTerror | I have a java authentication popup window that won't accept input. nor will it close... I have to 'kill' it. | 01:01 |
UnHolyTerror | 8.04 - java 6 from the repos. | 01:02 |
UnHolyTerror | accessing a java applet in Firefox3. | 01:03 |
cousteau | o/ all | 01:19 |
cousteau | I have an nvidia card and this seems to work (although I read something about the nv driver not working) - how can I check what driver am I using? | 01:23 |
RAOF | grep -i driver /var/log/Xorg.0.log | 01:23 |
cousteau | it says that it loaded 3 drivers (nv, vesa, fbdev) and then unloaded vesa and fbdev, so I guess I'm using the nv one | 01:25 |
cousteau | oh, when I tried to enter to IRC on empathy, the IRC option doesn't appear among the first use new account wizard | 01:27 |
RAOF | You might not have telepathy-idle installed? | 01:29 |
cousteau | isn't xorg server 1.7 supposed to have MPX? how can I enable that? | 01:29 |
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Hellow | Hmm, I'm having a more-than-slight problem after apt-get dist-upgrading on Lucid | 01:54 |
Hellow | For some reason, dpkg err'd out. Something to do with brasero and removing a file. | 01:54 |
Hellow | So, I aptitude -f'd. That removed.. what, dkms and the kernel. Then I dist-upgraded again. | 01:54 |
Hellow | Rebooted, got a segfault at the beginning (that was from Xorg, I believe), it continued booting to terminal. | 01:55 |
Hellow | I'm at terminal, I can't install the needed nvidia drivers (that somehow got removed) without removing Xorg and ubuntu-desktop. | 01:55 |
Hellow | And apt-get dist-upgrade wants to remove all the kernels, udev, xorg, and other packages along with it. | 01:56 |
RAOF | Hellow: There isn't a version of the nvidia blob in the archives that works with our X server; you can't install nvidia-glx at the moment. | 01:58 |
Hellow | RAOF: Should I switch xorg.conf to nv? | 01:59 |
Hellow | (I guess yes) | 01:59 |
RAOF | Or simply remove xorg.conf | 01:59 |
Hellow | There isn't one :P. | 01:59 |
RAOF | In which case, yay. | 01:59 |
Hellow | Xorg segfaulted at boot over not having a nvidia module. | 02:00 |
cousteau | Hellow: what about installing them manually? | 02:00 |
Hellow | Also, when logging in at terminal, I get a error where the MOTD should be: "run-parts: /etc/update-motd.d/91-release-upgrade exited with return code 1" | 02:01 |
Hellow | Hmm. Aptitude removed some python packages, and /etc/update.d/91-release-upgrade is a python script. I'll try reinstalling those packages. | 02:04 |
Hellow | Hmm, reinstalled all the packages aptitude removed, but it's still erroring. This is odd. | 02:12 |
knue | hi | 02:14 |
knue | currently I'm getting this: http://pastebin.ca/1723194 | 02:14 |
knue | I guess this is not correct | 02:14 |
Hellow | Huh, something about displaying at 75hz is something the drivers do not like. | 02:16 |
bjsnider | RAOF, the 195 blob seems to work | 02:22 |
Hellow | bjsnider, That's in the repos? | 02:37 |
Hellow | Or self compile? | 02:38 |
bjsnider | neither | 02:45 |
bjsnider | ppa | 02:45 |
Hellow | Ah, just found a blog post on that. | 02:46 |
Hellow | Huh, "W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/thefirstm/karmic-testing/ubuntu/dists/lucid/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz 404 Not Found" | 02:46 |
gorgonizer | Hellow: that repository has no packages for Lucid, only Karmic | 02:49 |
Hellow | Oh | 02:50 |
Hellow | I'm guessing this, then: https://launchpad.net/~nvidia-vdpau/+archive/ppa ? | 02:50 |
gorgonizer | I was just about to suggest the very same repository ;) | 02:51 |
ck773 | is there a problem with updates right now? | 03:00 |
IdleOne | ck773: such as? | 03:04 |
Hellow | The 195 driver fixed my problem. | 03:04 |
ck773 | same problem with updates, it says my system does not contain the package ubuntu-desktop, but i verified i had it before running the update | 04:35 |
ck773 | then it says "The package ubuntu-desktop is marked for removal but it is in the removal blacklist" | 04:36 |
ripps | meh, I'm bored. I'm gonna d/l the latest lucid daily iso, see if works, and then upgrade my karmic to lucid | 05:09 |
oldude67 | ugh updated my hard ware a little on my production box now its giving me fits...just my luck..lol | 06:36 |
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oldude67 | dang now i got a bunch of updates for lucind..sheesh its like they hit all at once. | 07:08 |
oldude67 | DanaG, wasnt it you that was having trouble with plymouth? | 07:09 |
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oldude67 | yeah 62 updates and i still have x, must of got lucky..lmao | 07:48 |
oldude67 | what sucks is i had to redownload the 9.10 and burn a cd cause the only one i had was the one for 9.10 release...and it was all funky trying to load. | 08:01 |
oldude67 | oh well thats not for this channel anyways. | 08:01 |
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ripps | Hmmm... I'm actually impressed how much the ati kms has improved with the latest lucid-daily iso. I think I'll upgrade to Lucid now. My biggest worry was that I wouldn't be able to play hd videos, and I accomplished that from the livecd | 09:37 |
ripps | hmm... why does it want to remove xserver-xorg-input-wacom? I use a graphire3 as my main input. | 09:44 |
BUGabundo_work | morning | 11:26 |
Oli``` | Is it possible to reverse a SSH connection, not in the port sense but so that the place I connected to (my desktop) could control the ssh client connecting to it (my phone)? | 11:42 |
SwedeMike | Oli```: you can do port forwarding, but this isn't really a #ubuntu+1 question. | 11:44 |
Oli``` | Sorry! Thought I was in -uk | 11:44 |
h4writer | Somebody told me there was a package in ubuntu repo's to download lucid in a VM. Is this true or should I create a image myself? | 11:48 |
BUGabundo_work | h4writer: not that i know of | 11:50 |
BUGabundo_work | at least not in the archive | 11:50 |
BUGabundo_work | there's a *very* old vmware image in cdimage h4writer | 11:51 |
BUGabundo_work | h4writer: but *all* images are LIVECDs so u have ZERO setup | 11:51 |
BUGabundo_work | http://isv-image.ubuntu.com/vmware/ | 11:51 |
h4writer | BUGabundo_work, Ty | 11:52 |
h4writer | BUGabundo_work, the link you gave me looks a bit outdated ? It goes to 7.10 only | 11:53 |
BUGabundo_work | [11:51] <BUGabundo_work> there's a *very* old vmware image in cdimage h4writer | 11:54 |
h4writer | ah lol, I get it :P | 11:54 |
BUGabundo_work | :) | 11:55 |
hanshenrik | is there a 64-bit repo for lucid? | 12:34 |
SwedeMike | hanshenrik: lucid is available in 64bit, yes. | 12:36 |
hanshenrik | i have a 32-bit setup, i wanna try update-manager -d to lucid, but i guess the update-manager will update to the 32-bit version of lucid, any way i can force the update manager to update to 64-bit instead? (and my cpu is 64-bit, intel core i7) | 12:38 |
SwedeMike | hanshenrik: you have to re-install to go from 32bit to 64bit | 12:38 |
hanshenrik | hmm.. kay | 12:38 |
SwedeMike | I have a nvidia 8400GS, X won't start for me as of at least 10 days, is this a known problem that will be fixed, or should I take some corrective action? (my xorg.conf is basically empty) | 12:39 |
hanshenrik | SwedeMike, what if i tried something hackish like replace the "/etc/apt/sources.list.distUpgrade" with a 64-bit equivalent? | 12:40 |
SwedeMike | hanshenrik: it won't work, you have to do other things. | 12:43 |
SwedeMike | hanshenrik: there are some guides for debian, I tried it, never got it to work. | 12:43 |
hanshenrik | hmm.. any idea what things? :p | 12:43 |
hanshenrik | ok | 12:44 |
SwedeMike | hanshenrik: basically you have to boot 64 bit kernel, get the 32bit compat environment running, then get the basic libs etc to 64bit, then change the arch of all your packages | 12:44 |
SwedeMike | unless you REALLY need to do this, I'd recommend doing a re-install | 12:44 |
hanshenrik | i really cant | 12:45 |
hanshenrik | the AMD64 setup hangs for a while, then goes in an endless loop complaining about "CPU #5" (its a quad) | 12:45 |
hanshenrik | (while i dont got that problem in the 86 or win7-64) | 12:45 |
SwedeMike | hanshenrik: well, if the amd64 kernel does that then that'd most likely happen when you booted the amd64 kernel as well | 12:47 |
SwedeMike | amd64 install kernel, I mean | 12:47 |
hanshenrik | btw wanna tell some background here, i bought a expensive new laptop (with very new & modern hardware), and no problems at all in Win7 64, but on ubuntu (9.10), it cant use my WLAN card, it cant use the 64-bit setup, it cant access all my ram (due to having to use 32-bit), i have installed all the proposed hardware-drivers in system->administration->hardware drivers, still not working. also... | 12:53 |
hanshenrik | ...ubuntu fails to start like 50%++ of the time (most of the time it just "hangs with that white icon until i pull the plug") .. and #ubuntu was of no help (well except going to a kernel with PAE enabled for all ram), its a long shot but i hope that lucid got better hardware support for my laptop, and if that doesn't work, im sticking with win7 a while :p | 12:53 |
SwedeMike | hanshenrik: well, try lucid on a USB stick first and see if it works, if it does, joy, if not, well, then you know that. | 12:56 |
hanshenrik | i dont got a usb stick (well i got a 1 GB one somewhere that i cant find, but i guess the lucid builds are bigger) | 12:57 |
SwedeMike | you can boot off a live cd as well | 12:58 |
SwedeMike | just burn the installer and see if it boots | 12:59 |
hanshenrik | that sounds like an idea! - umm where can i get a recent lucid build live-cd? (or do i have to compile it myself or something? :() | 12:59 |
SwedeMike | hanshenrik: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/lucid/alpha-1/ | 13:01 |
hanshenrik | thanks | 13:01 |
zikalify | hi | 13:06 |
zikalify | could someone suggest they replace GIMP with rgbPaint because it is very simple and does most things MS paint does | 13:07 |
SwedeMike | zikalify: rgbpaint seems to be available in 9.04 anyway, have you checked that it's been going away? | 13:08 |
SwedeMike | otherwise I'm sure it'll be available | 13:09 |
arand | SwedeMike: I'm guessing he/she means "in default install", right zikalify? | 13:12 |
BUGabundo_work | hanshenrik: u can use all your RAM with 32Bits | 13:26 |
BUGabundo_work | just needto use teh PAE kernel | 13:27 |
BUGabundo_work | but a clean install is the easyest way to change | 13:27 |
BUGabundo_work | export all your apps list with dselect | 13:27 |
BUGabundo_work | and the reput them back after install | 13:27 |
BUGabundo_work | SwedeMike: thats a old link. better dive daily | 13:27 |
BUGabundo_work | !daiy | 13:27 |
hanshenrik | no need, i installed ubuntu today, and i got nothing important :p | 13:27 |
BUGabundo_work | !daily | 13:28 |
ubottu | Daily builds of the CD images of the current development version of Ubuntu are available at http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily/current/ and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 13:28 |
BluesKaj | Howdy | 13:29 |
BUGabundo_work | hey BluesKaj | 13:30 |
BluesKaj | hi BUGabundo_work | 13:30 |
hanshenrik | btw funny project, i've download the source to update-manager,, gonna try to force it to believe im 64-bit, run it in sudo update-manager -d, let it go to hell, then ill re-install ^.^ sounds fun (got nothing i will miss in this system-setup) | 13:33 |
BUGabundo_work | anyone knows where i can find KDE icon pack repo? | 13:33 |
BUGabundo_work | hanshenrik: or an huge mess | 13:33 |
BUGabundo_work | ask in #ubuntu-kernel | 13:33 |
BluesKaj | I'm still having probs with lucid taking forever to load the properties box on some files as well as having to login twice every bootup | 13:33 |
JMFTheVCI | I can only get GDM to run after a boot to safe mode. Anyone else seeing this. Also I get a message "cannot connect to plymouth" at boot? Is this common as well? | 13:34 |
hanshenrik | i think #ubuntu-kernel is a invite-only channel, right? | 13:34 |
BluesKaj | BUGabundo_work, try www.kde-look.org | 13:34 |
hanshenrik | oh, nvm it isnt | 13:34 |
arand | hanshenrik: I think even if you install a 64bit u-m, that won't make it pull in 64bit updates.. | 13:34 |
BUGabundo_work | BluesKaj: down | 13:35 |
BluesKaj | hmm, wonder what happened there | 13:36 |
hanshenrik | arand: no im not, i have downloaded the source-code, im gonna built it in 32-bit (tho i dont think it would make a diffrence if i compile it with gcc -march=64 or gcc -march=32.. may be wrong tho), but build it to believe that it's running 64-bit no matter what, so it will try to update to lucid-lynx 64-bit when i run "sudo update-manager -d" :p (this problably just ends up as a big fail... | 13:37 |
hanshenrik | ...but, i think it will be a good time-waster) | 13:37 |
BluesKaj | BUGabundo_work, most of kde sites seem to be down :( | 13:40 |
zikalify | yes i meant default install of rgbpaint for 10.04 to replace gimp bcus they said they wanted an easier to use paint program | 13:40 |
arand | zikalify: I think they're ignoring the "MSpaint" equivalent completely, F-spot in for simple photo-editing... | 13:42 |
hanshenrik | update-manager is actually made in python??? | 13:42 |
BUGabundo_work | hanshenrik: yes | 13:43 |
hanshenrik | thats new, thought just about everything that ships with ubuntu was C/c++ :p | 13:44 |
zikalify | kk | 13:44 |
arand | zikalify: but any complaints to that should go on the discussion part of the blueprint whiteboard afaik: https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-lucid-default-apps | 13:46 |
BUGabundo_work | c/c++ ? lolol | 13:49 |
bjsnider | python is very popular for whatever reason | 13:50 |
BUGabundo_work | around 50% of the desktop tools in Ubuntu are python this days | 13:50 |
Oli``` | Because Python is awesome. | 14:38 |
BUGabundo_work | cough | 14:40 |
jordanwb | A few days ago the topic for this channel mentionned that gnome packages would be held back till a package was updated. Was that package updated? | 14:43 |
soee | hi | 15:07 |
edgy_ | Hi, I used usb-creator to install lucid cd iso on a usb flash and when I do dist-upgrade from the stick, it complains no free space though the flash is 4G | 15:39 |
BUGabundo_work | edgy_: usb-creator doesnt "install" in the pen drive | 15:39 |
BUGabundo_work | just copies the CD image and makes it bootable | 15:39 |
BUGabundo_work | its "just" a live, discartable system | 15:40 |
edgy_ | BUGabundo_work: you mean every thing I install would go to RAM? | 15:40 |
BUGabundo_work | u "shouldnt" make upgrades on it | 15:40 |
BUGabundo_work | cause they are going to be discarted on boot | 15:40 |
BUGabundo_work | edgy_: well yeah, kinda | 15:40 |
edgy_ | BUGabundo_work: I remember I did a persistent install before but don't remember how now | 15:40 |
BUGabundo_work | until u install it "for real" in your system | 15:40 |
BUGabundo_work | well usb-creator has an option for that | 15:41 |
BUGabundo_work | but i havent manage to get it to work with 9.10 | 15:41 |
edgy_ | BUGabundo_work: ah ok I will try that and report back, thanks a lot | 15:41 |
BUGabundo_work | still 4GiBs is not _much_ to fit all system + upgrades | 15:41 |
BUGabundo_work | if u find a working way to make a system install in the pen, without messing with hard disk system let me know | 15:42 |
BUGabundo_work | i broke and had to repair a laptop this weekend while trying that | 15:42 |
BUGabundo_work | to use a lucid livecd and install it on the pendrive as a disk | 15:42 |
BUGabundo_work | but the grub didnt like that very much. even after i told it to install in the pendrive, it would not boot, and messed the HD grub :(( | 15:43 |
BUGabundo_work | plus it will not install in ext2 and requires SWAP | 15:43 |
om26er | i want to install plymouth without libdrm-nouveau1 is it possible? | 15:43 |
BUGabundo_work | why would i want swap on a FLASH device, beats me | 15:43 |
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* om26er don't use nvidia | 15:44 | |
soee | can u tell me pls how many problems can i expect when i upgrade do 10.04 a1, is it much crashy or atm? | 15:45 |
BUGabundo_work | soee: X is broken | 15:46 |
BUGabundo_work | KDE is a bit of a mess | 15:46 |
BUGabundo_work | audio is spot as usual | 15:46 |
soee | but tehre is KDE 4.4 b4 now right ? | 15:46 |
soee | *b2 | 15:46 |
hifi | aptitude just broke | 15:46 |
BUGabundo_work | either try a livecd/usb, or make backups and join the fun | 15:46 |
BUGabundo_work | hifi: LOL | 15:46 |
soee | nah i think ill stay with 9.10 till rc1 | 15:47 |
hifi | http://pastey.net/130533-1p4p | 15:47 |
BUGabundo_work | soee: LOLOLOL | 15:47 |
hifi | what the heck just happened | 15:47 |
BUGabundo_work | so why are u asking so soon? | 15:47 |
BUGabundo_work | either u got what it takes to join the wagon, or dont complain after release, your stuff doesnt work | 15:48 |
BUGabundo_work | hifi: thats serious | 15:48 |
BUGabundo_work | jump to #ubuntu-dev and get someone to look into it | 15:48 |
hifi | apt-get works fine | 15:48 |
BUGabundo_work | is devicekit broken? | 16:24 |
BUGabundo_work | anything on ExtFS will not mount as userland | 16:24 |
BUGabundo_work | just root | 16:24 |
BUGabundo_work | and even when it does, like in fat | 16:24 |
BUGabundo_work | if u try to delete something, system goes to RO | 16:24 |
BUGabundo_work | happens in both lucid and debian unstable | 16:25 |
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crimsun | who has an Analog Devices HDA codec? | 16:28 |
BUGabundo_work | i think i do | 16:31 |
BUGabundo_work | but not "here" | 16:31 |
BUGabundo_work | at home | 16:31 |
crimsun | BUGabundo_work: ok, let me know. I have some powerdown fixes for those codecs that I need testing. | 16:37 |
BUGabundo_work | crimsun: like having it startup with the volume it was when i shutdown? | 16:52 |
BUGabundo_work | cause having it MUTEd every time is a bit sucky | 16:52 |
crimsun | BUGabundo_work: no, that's unrelated | 16:52 |
BUGabundo_work | eheh | 16:52 |
crimsun | BUGabundo_work: is that box running lucid or karmic? | 16:52 |
BUGabundo_work | well LCD bright is worse | 16:52 |
BUGabundo_work | it keeps reseting to some "strange" value | 16:53 |
BUGabundo_work | my laptop runs +1 (everytime) | 16:53 |
BUGabundo_work | even this work PC runs debian unstable | 16:53 |
BUGabundo_work | :) | 16:53 |
crimsun | that's some crazy PA stream (re)store race | 16:53 |
crimsun | I haven't dug into it very deep yet, been busy chasing other driver bugs | 16:53 |
BUGabundo_work | crimsun: not critical... but it can get some users by surprise... sure does to me some times, until i remember to unmute | 16:56 |
arand | Hmm, aptitude crash, that's interesting... | 17:55 |
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BUGabundo_work | arand: worse | 18:00 |
BUGabundo_work | apt db exposed | 18:00 |
BUGabundo_work | wheres mvo when one needs him | 18:00 |
arand | hmm? Well, seems apt-get works though... | 18:01 |
arand | Recent updates to apt... blame-able I guess.. | 18:01 |
BUGabundo_work | well i wont be upgrading apt then | 18:06 |
apocolipse | Hi, are there any methods for doing wubi install of Lucid alpha ? | 18:10 |
maco | get wubi then hand it an iso? | 18:10 |
maco | wubi is only included on desktop isos and those dont usually happen til alpha2 | 18:11 |
maco | but you can download wubi from teh internet separately | 18:11 |
arand | BUGabundo_work: Do we have a bug report on that yet? | 18:11 |
BUGabundo_work | not my crash | 18:11 |
BUGabundo_work | ask him | 18:11 |
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* BluesKaj still wonders why Lucid needs 2 logins ay bootup | 18:42 | |
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sebsebseb | hi | 20:10 |
yoasif | anyone seeing this? http://pastebin.com/m3672da8a | 20:23 |
BluesKaj | yoasif, using aptitude ..got the same thing ..better update with apt ..looks like aptitude is broken | 20:31 |
yoasif | BluesKaj, bug is here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/499543 | 20:31 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 499543 in apt "recent apt upgrade crashes aptitude" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 20:31 |
arand | yoasif: Yea, I reported a while ago, do fill in if I missed something. | 20:32 |
BluesKaj | yoasif, did your run command disappear too (alt+f2) ? | 20:32 |
yoasif | BluesKaj, that happened to me a while ago, recent updates fixed that though | 20:32 |
BluesKaj | hmm, I just updated a few mins ago , it's still not fixed | 20:33 |
yoasif | BluesKaj, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/492057 | 20:33 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 492057 in gnome-panel "gnome panel segfaults when clicking on main menu" [Medium,Invalid] | 20:33 |
yoasif | they marked it as invalid, but i think it should be confirmed :P | 20:33 |
BluesKaj | yoasif, , running kde 4.4 here , may that could be part of the the problem | 20:34 |
yoasif | ahh | 20:34 |
yoasif | im running gnome, so i dont know... fairly sure it's a real bug | 20:34 |
yoasif | but it's hard to diagnose | 20:34 |
yoasif | oh! | 20:34 |
yoasif | try a new user account | 20:34 |
BluesKaj | it's default with kubuntulucid | 20:34 |
yoasif | it disappeared for me when i tried that | 20:34 |
BluesKaj | and the double login as well :P | 20:35 |
BluesKaj | bbiab , gotta check the postbox | 20:37 |
yoasif | kk | 20:38 |
benste | hi, where can I file a bug against the grafical installer - what's the name of the package ? | 20:39 |
yoasif | i believe it is ubiquity | 20:40 |
yoasif | maybe ubiquity-gtk | 20:40 |
yoasif | do a search | 20:40 |
benste | yoasif: should I use ubuntu-bug ubiquity if the system is installed or is thewre a way to do this from another machien ? | 20:41 |
yoasif | benste, what is the error? | 20:41 |
benste | the "next" button is always colored as it would have been already pressed - thought the system freezed but i just had to click again | 20:42 |
benste | guess this is a real minor bug but it's annoying | 20:42 |
yoasif | benste, you are in the livecd? | 20:42 |
benste | no I've just finished installation from live cd | 20:43 |
benste | alpha 1 | 20:43 |
yoasif | ah, for something like that, it may already be filed -- you should check to see if it exists in the daily live cds | 20:43 |
yoasif | and it's not going to help if you aren't in the live env | 20:43 |
benste | yoasif: Is there a way to get the daily live as torrent - downloading the whole image would cost me arround 1/2 day :-) | 20:44 |
benste | my NAS could do if i'd have a torrent | 20:44 |
yoasif | benste, you can you can use rsync :/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RsyncCdImage | 20:45 |
yoasif | so it only updates what has changed | 20:45 |
yoasif | not sure about torrents | 20:45 |
benste | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ | 20:46 |
benste | doesn't have any torrents | 20:46 |
benste | so I'll have to take a look at rsync | 20:46 |
benste | :-) | 20:46 |
BluesKaj | yeah, normally ubuquity uninstalls itself after the OS install almost done | 20:46 |
benste | does so of you have 3 mins and the daily live ? | 20:48 |
BluesKaj | ?? | 20:49 |
benste | np I'll try zsync or rsync later :-) | 20:51 |
BluesKaj | I'm talking about a clean install from the live cd | 20:51 |
BluesKaj | nm... guess i missed the point | 20:52 |
benste | yoasif looks like zsync is really easy, only installing and starting from CLI with zsync <downloaded file> | 20:55 |
darthanubis | ubiquity fails upon trying to partition the hard drive | 21:20 |
darthanubis | or alter partitions already present | 21:21 |
BluesKaj | uhoh | 21:22 |
BluesKaj | but that's why I use gparted to partition everything first , before an install | 21:23 |
benste | does so know if daily live is broken? - I can't enter the gui , the image is ok | 21:28 |
BluesKaj | benste, using aptitude , if so it's broken , apt is the way to update/upgrade now | 21:32 |
benste | BluesKaj: you know that I'm testing daily live cause of an ubiquity issue ? :-) | 21:35 |
benste | chekcing cd for defects does end up in file or dir not found so i guess ISO is broken | 21:36 |
benste | I'll try again tomorrow | 21:36 |
BUGabundo | boas o/ | 21:56 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: ping I'm back home if you need further tests | 21:56 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: can you verify that you have an AD HDA codec on the desired Lucid machine? | 22:02 |
BUGabundo | sure | 22:02 |
BUGabundo | how do I need to run to make sure? | 22:02 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: ^^^ | 22:02 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: grep Realtek /proc/asound/card*/codec* | 22:03 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: /proc/asound/card0/codec#0:Codec: Realtek ALC883 | 22:03 |
crimsun | excellent | 22:03 |
crimsun | let me get you a git changeset right quick... | 22:03 |
maco | crimsun: you been hanging around akgraner? your southerner's comin out | 22:04 |
BUGabundo | why don't I feel so good, all of the sudden !? | 22:04 |
BUGabundo | maco LOLOLOL | 22:04 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: you'll need to grab http://kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tiwai/snapshot/alsa-driver-20091219.tar.bz2 , too | 22:04 |
BUGabundo | now I want to know how akgraner sounds too | 22:04 |
akgraner | maco, :-P | 22:04 |
BUGabundo | akgraner: *** | 22:04 |
akgraner | southern...just sayin' | 22:04 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: step by step... baby steps :) | 22:05 |
crimsun | maco: what? | 22:05 |
maco | crimsun: "right quick" | 22:05 |
BUGabundo | my sound is just *perfect* right now :\ | 22:05 |
maco | that was so north carolina | 22:05 |
akgraner | crimsun, "right quick"..... | 22:05 |
crimsun | no it isn't | 22:05 |
crimsun | people from all over say "right quick" | 22:05 |
maco | ...from all over the south | 22:05 |
akgraner | crimsun, that they do..:-) | 22:06 |
crimsun | it isn't a southern thAng | 22:06 |
BluesKaj | is there a substitute for the run command (alt+f2) ? , mine has disappeared | 22:06 |
bjsnider | crimsun, you never did answer my question in the other channel about whether it's ok to destroy a userland config file during a package install/upgrade | 22:06 |
maco | BluesKaj: panel not running? | 22:06 |
BluesKaj | panel is fine . no alt+f2 | 22:07 |
crimsun | bjsnider: I'm pretty busy (and was pretty busy), so sorry for leaving you in the lurch | 22:07 |
maco | kde or gnome? cuz alt+f2 is built into the gnome-panel on gnome | 22:07 |
bjsnider | no rush | 22:07 |
BluesKaj | maco, tried openbox . but it fails to launch as well | 22:07 |
crimsun | bjsnider: the short answer is that I don't know enough about that problem domain. In general, it's unacceptable to do so. | 22:07 |
BluesKaj | kde | 22:07 |
maco | thats krunner then | 22:07 |
maco | see if itll start from a terminal, maybe? | 22:08 |
BluesKaj | krunner fials in the terminal ...errors galore | 22:09 |
BluesKaj | fails | 22:09 |
bjsnider | crimsun, using pulseaudio as an example, would you deliberately destroy the ~/.pulse directory if it would help matters during a pulse upgrade? | 22:09 |
maco | BluesKaj: bug report time? | 22:09 |
crimsun | bjsnider: I would have already done that if it were acceptable, but then again I *know* this problem domain | 22:09 |
crimsun | bjsnider: gconf tomfoolery, not so much | 22:09 |
slacker_nl | grrrrr | 22:09 |
maco | bjsnider: how would you ensure that *every* user's config is destroyed? | 22:09 |
slacker_nl | i thought I understood pinning | 22:10 |
slacker_nl | now the thing won't pin apt for me | 22:10 |
bjsnider | you mean you haven't done it only because it would cross a line? | 22:10 |
maco | bjsnider: particularly when other users may have encrypted home directories, and thus you cant delete their dot files unless theyre logged in at the time? | 22:10 |
crimsun | bjsnider: doing so is unacceptable both technically and Policy-wise | 22:10 |
BluesKaj | maco, possibly , I guess I'm thinking I caused it somehow and that there's a quickfix :P | 22:10 |
bjsnider | maco, easy as pie. you write a preinst script that contains rm -rf type instructions | 22:11 |
BUGabundo | is apt fixed? | 22:11 |
BUGabundo | I've it pinned down | 22:11 |
BUGabundo | so it won't uppgrade | 22:11 |
maco | bjsnider: but if my user is not logged in and i have encrypted ~, you *cant* find my ~/.pulse to delete it in your package script | 22:11 |
slacker_nl | BUGabundo: how'd you do that? | 22:11 |
slacker_nl | BUGabundo: it seems to ignore my pinning :/ | 22:12 |
BluesKaj | BUGabundo, apt seems ok , aptitude not so good | 22:12 |
slacker_nl | BluesKaj: aptitude works when apt is downgraded | 22:12 |
BUGabundo | slacker_nl: aptitude hold apt apt-utils | 22:12 |
BUGabundo | :DDD | 22:12 |
bjsnider | maco, that's ok. i can only do what i can do. if it's impossible that's a different issue. i as the packager cannot be blamed for the config file not being blown away in that case | 22:12 |
* BUGabundo aptitude ROCKZ | 22:12 | |
slacker_nl | BUGabundo: ahh k :) | 22:12 |
BluesKaj | slacker_nl, downgraded ? | 22:12 |
maco | bjsnider: but thisd mean "interesting" results, user-dependent, and thatd be rather bad | 22:13 |
maco | and like crimsun says...policy-wise...dont touch /home/* | 22:13 |
bjsnider | maco, but right now the file is not being wiped out at all. wiping some of them out is better than none | 22:13 |
maco | i disagree. that means inconsistent results | 22:14 |
maco | consistency is rather important | 22:14 |
bjsnider | maco, what happens when the new package does not behave as intended simply because this userland file is stopping it? | 22:14 |
slacker_nl | BluesKaj: yes | 22:14 |
slacker_nl | BUGabundo: http://pb.opperschaap.net/134 | 22:15 |
maco | bjsnider: the software itself can modify dotfiles on first run, but the package maintainer scripts should not touch them | 22:15 |
crimsun | s/should/must/ | 22:16 |
slacker_nl | BluesKaj: apt-get install --reinstall apt=<version> | 22:16 |
bjsnider | maco, on first run of a new version, or on first run as in the first time it is installed? | 22:17 |
maco | bjsnider: the first time that user runs that software. either of those is possible | 22:17 |
maco | it is common to check "does a config exist? if not, create it" when its the first time thta user has ever run that software | 22:18 |
bjsnider | what if the config file does not normally exist | 22:18 |
maco | in this case, youd want the software to check "does a config exist? if not, create it. if so, but its an old format, upgrade it" | 22:18 |
bjsnider | even after the software is run | 22:18 |
BluesKaj | slacker_nl, nm , I'll just use apt for now , I'm more concerned about the "run command" , I rely on it a lot | 22:18 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: have you downloaded the daily tarball? | 22:18 |
BUGabundo | yes | 22:18 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: ok, now you'll need the patches in http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~dtchen/test-kernels/powerdown-analog/ | 22:18 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: both ? | 22:19 |
BUGabundo | done | 22:19 |
maco | bjsnider: if it doesnt normally have a config file, then what is it that youd be deleting? | 22:19 |
bjsnider | maco, check and see if you have this file: ~/.gnome2/backgrounds.xml | 22:20 |
maco | bjsnider: i do | 22:20 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: now please extract the daily tarball, then apply both patches | 22:20 |
maco | no idea what it does (or rather, what it *would do* if i used gnome) | 22:20 |
slacker_nl | BluesKaj: I'm on Debian again, lucid hasn't been my best friend | 22:21 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: how? | 22:21 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: I presume you can extract the tarball yourself | 22:22 |
BUGabundo | done | 22:22 |
BUGabundo | lol | 22:22 |
BluesKaj | slacker_nl, I'm afraid to admit that I'm beginning to have second thoughts myself :P | 22:24 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: cd alsa-driver && patch -p1 < /wherever/you/downloaded/0001.. && patch -p1 < /wherever/you/downloaded/0002 | 22:24 |
bjsnider | maco, at some point, you changed the properties of the wallpaper on your system so it did not match the xml files in /usr/share/gnome-background-properties | 22:25 |
maco | bjsnider: would that include adding more backgrounds to the appearances thingy? | 22:25 |
bjsnider | when you did, that file was created | 22:25 |
bjsnider | maco, no | 22:25 |
bjsnider | well, yes | 22:26 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: its taking a while | 22:26 |
maco | bjsnider: so if you delete that, people's custom backgrounds all have to be manually re-added? | 22:26 |
bjsnider | maco, yes | 22:26 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: what is? | 22:26 |
bjsnider | but | 22:26 |
BluesKaj | gonna switch to the laptop ..stretch out in the easy chair for a bit ...bbinafew | 22:26 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: the patch apply | 22:26 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: it should be instantaneous | 22:26 |
BUGabundo | nope | 22:26 |
maco | bjsnider: this sounds like it goes into the "would annoy users" category | 22:27 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: you omitted the redirection, probably | 22:27 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: /audio/alsa-driver$ patch -p1 0001-ALSA-hda-Add-powerdown-noise-fixes-for-Analog-Device.patch | 22:27 |
crimsun | right | 22:27 |
BUGabundo | its just there.. stuck | 22:27 |
BUGabundo | oops | 22:27 |
maco | BUGabundo: the redirect...is missing | 22:27 |
BUGabundo | sorry | 22:27 |
bjsnider | if i release an updated wallpapers package that has changed settings for the existing images, they will nto take effect because that file overrides the system-wide xml files in gnome | 22:27 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: patching file sound/pci/hda/patch_analog.c | 22:27 |
BUGabundo | done | 22:27 |
BUGabundo | both | 22:27 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: good, now: ./configure --with-cards=hda-intel --with-card-options=all && make -j3 | 22:30 |
DanaG | weird... if I have nothing connected to ttyS0, yet have a getty on it... my syslog gets spammed with "ttyS0 terminated with status 1". | 22:30 |
BUGabundo | there goes my sound :D | 22:30 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: finito | 22:32 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: sudo make install && sudo rm -f /etc/init.d/alsasound | 22:32 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: afterward, reboot | 22:32 |
BUGabundo | reboot? | 22:33 |
BUGabundo | but I never reboot !!! | 22:33 |
crimsun | yes, you need to hard-reset your HDA codec | 22:33 |
BUGabundo | WARNING!!! The mixer channels for the ALSA driver are muted by default!!! | 22:33 |
BUGabundo | ************************************************************************** | 22:33 |
BUGabundo | You would use some ALSA or OSS mixer to set the appropriate volume. | 22:33 |
crimsun | you can safely ignore that | 22:33 |
BUGabundo | okay | 22:33 |
BUGabundo | brb in 2 | 22:33 |
BUGabundo | _I hope_ | 22:34 |
crimsun | jeez, I think I put that in about six years ago | 22:34 |
maco | *snort* | 22:34 |
BUGabundo | LOL | 22:34 |
crimsun | no, sorry, ten years ago | 22:34 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: eta 2m 2s | 22:34 |
BUGabundo | so just a bit longer while this finish up | 22:35 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: 10y ?? | 22:35 |
BUGabundo | man, we are old :\ | 22:35 |
bjsnider | crimsun, you've been hacking on alsa for 10 years? | 22:35 |
crimsun | yes. | 22:35 |
bjsnider | alsa itself has been around for 10 years? | 22:35 |
crimsun | longer | 22:35 |
BUGabundo | bjsnider: assuming he did that just after he started hackign it :D | 22:35 |
crimsun | I was doing OSS before that | 22:35 |
bjsnider | well, it's time to scrap it and get something better in there | 22:36 |
BUGabundo | bjsnider: LOL | 22:36 |
bjsnider | i had to say it | 22:36 |
bjsnider | i mean this is linux | 22:36 |
BUGabundo | reboot | 22:38 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: [ 10.206294] hda_codec: cannot build controlsfor #0 (error -22) | 22:44 |
BUGabundo | and no sound | 22:44 |
BUGabundo | at least its not muted :D | 22:44 |
crimsun | hmm | 22:45 |
BUGabundo | also got this | 22:45 |
BUGabundo | http://paste.ubuntu.com/344985/ | 22:45 |
BUGabundo | not sure its related | 22:45 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: need full syslog? | 22:45 |
lifedevil | anyone else had this issue with 10.04, mountall: could not connect to plymouth on boot up then blackscreen | 22:45 |
crimsun | bugfull dmesg | 22:46 |
crimsun | friggin irssi | 22:46 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: $ dmesg | pastebinit | 22:47 |
BUGabundo | http://pastebin.com/f66ae41c3 | 22:47 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: can I now have my sound back again !? :p | 22:47 |
crimsun | sec | 22:48 |
crimsun | hmm, you're getting an EINVAL | 22:51 |
crimsun | that's quite odd, because my code doesn't touch it | 22:51 |
DanaG | https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=22239 | 22:51 |
ubottu | Freedesktop bug 22239 in plymouth general "improve console= handling" [Normal,New] | 22:51 |
DanaG | that's the issue I have. | 22:51 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: my system is pretty standrd | 22:52 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: ok, let's see if today's snap works without my changes | 22:53 |
BUGabundo | ok | 22:53 |
BUGabundo | cause I would like to watch my tv shows :P | 22:53 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: extract the tarball to a new directory and compile it using the same configure parameters, but *don't* apply my two patches beforehand | 22:54 |
BUGabundo | compliling | 22:55 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: and afterward, the same make install, rm, reboot procedure | 22:56 |
BUGabundo | ALSA modules were successfully compiled. | 22:56 |
BUGabundo | $ sudo make install && sudo rm -f /etc/init.d/alsasound | 22:57 |
crimsun | yes | 22:57 |
BUGabundo | it was faster this time | 22:57 |
BUGabundo | rebooting | 22:57 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: dmesg | pastebinit | 23:00 |
BUGabundo | http://pastebin.com/f5677fbcd | 23:00 |
BUGabundo | $ dmesg | grep codec | 23:00 |
BUGabundo | [ 18.732876] hda_codec: cannot build controlsfor #0 (error -22) | 23:00 |
BUGabundo | no sound yet :(( | 23:00 |
crimsun | swtee | 23:00 |
BUGabundo | didn't see the warning on boot, like last time | 23:01 |
crimsun | ok, so it isn't my code. Not that I thought it could have been. | 23:01 |
BUGabundo | but did see something about plymouth | 23:01 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: ok, let's back up to 1.0.21, then | 23:01 |
crimsun | (the daily snapshot is slightly newer than 1.0.22) | 23:01 |
BUGabundo | fine by me | 23:02 |
BUGabundo | as long as I can put mplayer to work | 23:02 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver/alsa-driver-1.0.21.tar.bz2 | 23:03 |
BUGabundo | 2009-12-22 23:03:52 (358 KB/s) - `alsa-driver-1.0.21.tar.bz2' saved [3112563] | 23:03 |
crimsun | oh blah, 1.0.21 is too old | 23:04 |
BUGabundo | LOLOLOL | 23:04 |
crimsun | we don't have the reboot callback in 21, sigh | 23:04 |
BUGabundo | glad I have "unlimited" bw | 23:04 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: archive or ppa then ? | 23:04 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: no, just download 1.0.22 | 23:05 |
BUGabundo | from ftp ? | 23:05 |
crimsun | (change "21" to "22" in the url) | 23:05 |
BUGabundo | [ <=> ] 1,058,536 403K/s | 23:05 |
BUGabundo | 2009-12-22 23:05:30 (430 KB/s) - `alsa-driver-1.0.21.tar.bz2.1' saved [3112563] | 23:05 |
crimsun | 1.0.22, not 1.0.21 | 23:05 |
BUGabundo | lol | 23:06 |
BUGabundo | no idea how i missed that | 23:06 |
BUGabundo | at this hours, I can barelly keep my eyes open :( | 23:06 |
BUGabundo | 2009-12-22 23:06:26 (421 KB/s) - `alsa-driver-1.0.22.tar.bz2' saved [3198841] | 23:06 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: same stuff ? | 23:07 |
BUGabundo | compile and install ? | 23:07 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: yes, first test *without* my patches | 23:07 |
BUGabundo | are you planing two more reboots !? :( | 23:08 |
crimsun | yes | 23:08 |
cwillu_clone | Is there a way to compile just a single module out of the tree against the installed headers? I'm trying to patch a single driver, and have little interest in compiling the whole kernel :p | 23:08 |
crimsun | that's just the way it is, unfortunately. I have to live with your codec's constraints. | 23:08 |
RAOF | cwillu_clone: Yes, absolutely. Check out, for example, the nouveau-kernel-source package, which does exactly that. | 23:09 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: that's plain evil :p | 23:09 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: don't buy Realtek, then | 23:09 |
BUGabundo | ehe | 23:09 |
crimsun | sorry, but all HDA codecs suck like that. | 23:09 |
BUGabundo | its onboard | 23:09 |
BUGabundo | not much choice there | 23:09 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: brb | 23:11 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: guess what | 23:14 |
BUGabundo | no sound | 23:14 |
crimsun | same error? | 23:14 |
BUGabundo | $ dmesg | grep codec | 23:14 |
BUGabundo | [ 18.970120] hda_codec: cannot build controlsfor #0 (error -22) | 23:14 |
BUGabundo | $ dmesg | pastebinit | 23:14 |
BUGabundo | http://pastebin.com/f2293d549 | 23:14 |
crimsun | sigh, awesome. | 23:14 |
BUGabundo | assuming dmesg aint posting from past boot, yes | 23:14 |
crimsun | let's see, no MSI? | 23:14 |
BUGabundo | :) | 23:15 |
BUGabundo | asustek | 23:15 |
cwillu_clone | RAOF, as far as I can tell, making that package required an expert level understanding of how things are assembled. Is that really the best example? | 23:15 |
BUGabundo | OEM umbranded | 23:15 |
RAOF | cwillu_clone: Well, maybe :) | 23:15 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: sorry, no, I mean http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Message_Signaled_Interrupts | 23:15 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: lots of motherboards and bioses are broken WRT MSI | 23:16 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: now patching and do it again ? | 23:16 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: not yet, just a sec | 23:16 |
BUGabundo | FYI sound was perfect before this :\ | 23:16 |
BUGabundo | okay | 23:16 |
* BUGabundo returns to RSS reading | 23:16 | |
RAOF | cwillu_clone: You could also see alsa-source, I think. If the module is cooperative, it can be quite easy. | 23:16 |
cwillu_clone | It's a little odd that it's easier to patch an nvidia kernel module's source against a running kernel than it is to patch an in-tree driver's source :p | 23:16 |
BUGabundo | I would say to ping me, but no audio, so I can't be alerted :\ | 23:17 |
* cwillu_clone pings BUGabundo | 23:17 | |
crimsun | BUGabundo: can you append enable_msi=0 to the options snd-hda-intel line in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, then reboot? | 23:17 |
BUGabundo | sure | 23:17 |
BUGabundo | # Power down HDA controllers after 10 idle seconds | 23:17 |
BUGabundo | options snd-hda-intel power_save=10 power_save_controller=N enable_msi=0 | 23:17 |
crimsun | yep | 23:17 |
cwillu_clone | hmm | 23:19 |
BUGabundo | crimsun: done | 23:19 |
BUGabundo | reboot ? | 23:19 |
cwillu_clone | RAOF, assuming that alsa-source contains the driver in question, do I just need to include the patch in debian/patches? | 23:20 |
crimsun | BUGabundo: yes | 23:20 |
crimsun | cwillu_clone: which patch? | 23:21 |
cwillu_clone | crimsun, theoretically adding support for an m-audio device | 23:21 |
* cwillu_clone looks for the url | 23:22 | |
crimsun | cwillu_clone: just grab the 1.0.21 tarball and apply it to alsa-kernel/usb/ | 23:22 |
crimsun | cwillu_clone: no point in messing with alsa-source and m-a at this point | 23:22 |
cwillu_clone | I think that leaves me at my first question :p | 23:23 |
crimsun | why? You're just compiling ALSA | 23:23 |
crimsun | on a decently fast system, that takes one minute or less. | 23:24 |
cwillu_clone | although I hadn't realized that it was actually an alsa related thing originally | 23:24 |
cwillu_clone | usbaudio.c <- alsa's territory? | 23:24 |
crimsun | yes. | 23:24 |
crimsun | --with-cards=usb-audio | 23:25 |
cwillu_clone | crimsun, thanks | 23:29 |
* cwillu_clone knows who to bug now :) | 23:29 | |
j_ack | cwillu_clone, do you use an m-audio usb-Card? | 23:30 |
cwillu_clone | j_ack, no, but I play one on tv | 23:30 |
cwillu_clone | I mean, yes | 23:30 |
cwillu_clone | well, no, but I want to | 23:31 |
BluesKaj | now both lucid boxes have no 'run command' | 23:31 |
j_ack | cwillu_clone, what´s the name of these card | 23:31 |
cwillu_clone | fast truck ultra | 23:31 |
cwillu_clone | track | 23:31 |
* cwillu_clone patiently waits for a compile | 23:36 | |
bjsnider | cwillu_clone, what is hard about patching an in-tree driver? | 23:38 |
cwillu_clone | bjsnider, compiling just the driver against the running kernel | 23:38 |
crimsun | bjsnider: what's hard? You have to build the entire base kernel to get symbols for resolution | 23:39 |
bjsnider | not with the blob | 23:39 |
RAOF | Because it's build system is designed for out-of-tree work. | 23:40 |
bjsnider | yeah. ain't it great? | 23:40 |
RAOF | Well, not really; it breaks nearly every major kernel version. | 23:40 |
* cwillu_clone sighs | 23:43 | |
cwillu_clone | what is it that restarts pulseaudio? | 23:43 |
RAOF | pulseaudio -k ? | 23:44 |
cwillu_clone | try it | 23:44 |
RAOF | That'll kill it, and it'll presumably get respawned pretty quickly. | 23:44 |
cwillu_clone | indeed | 23:44 |
cwillu_clone | hence my question | 23:44 |
* cwillu_clone huggles RAOF | 23:45 | |
* BUGabundo pokes cwillu | 23:45 | |
* cwillu_clone eyes BUGabundo suspiciously | 23:45 | |
cwillu_clone | it's not gnome-session or gnome-settings-daemon | 23:46 |
RAOF | Oh, right. | 23:47 |
RAOF | No, it's autospawned whenever something tries to play sound or query pulseaudio. | 23:47 |
cwillu_clone | ugh, really? | 23:47 |
RAOF | Yes; you can disable this in ~/.pulseaudio.conf or something. | 23:48 |
cwillu_clone | too much magic :/ | 23:50 |
crimsun | ~/.pulse/client.conf | 23:52 |
crimsun | I've blogged about it before! | 23:52 |
cwillu_clone | I just chmod a-x `which pulseaudio | 23:53 |
cwillu_clone | and then rmmod'd 18 different modules | 23:53 |
cwillu_clone | yay, I've compiled alsa :p | 23:54 |
* cwillu_clone applies patches and recompiles | 23:59 |
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