[01:48] <kn100> Can you install lighter software on an arm based ubuntu MID to speed it up a bit?
[02:05] <pwnguin> such as/
[02:05] <pwnguin> ?
[02:09] <kn100> LXDE for example
[02:14] <ojn> go ahead
[02:14] <ojn> apt-get install lxde should work
[02:26] <kn100> just wondering, because the performance of these arm based ubuntu devices looks rather poor but i so bloody want one lool
[12:11]  * bizkut is away (i am away now)
[12:53] <lool> bizkut-offline: Hey!  Would you mind turning off the verbose away?  It attracts the attention to the channel while actually nothing happens  ;-)
[13:15] <armin76> lool: hows that! it happened that he's away! :P
[13:19] <lool> Haha
[13:19] <lool> away, or -offline?  ;)
[14:12] <asac> fta: open("/usr/lib/chromium-browser/libffmpegsumo.so", O_RDONLY) = 15
[14:12] <asac> open("/proc/sys/kernel/shmmax", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 19
[14:12] <asac> pure virtual method called
[14:12] <asac> terminate called without an active exception
[14:12] <asac> --- SIGABRT (Aborted) @ 0 (0) ---
[14:12] <asac> +++ killed by SIGABRT +++
[14:12] <asac> so feels like its related to ffmpeg
[14:12] <asac> directly after ffmpegsumo it goes bad
[14:13] <fta> try to drop it then
[14:13] <asac> fta: what is the difference of sumo?
[14:13] <fta> it's the 3 ffmpeg .so in one
[14:13] <asac> hmm
[14:13] <asac> fta: isnt that supposed to be just a plugin?
[14:13] <fta> the idea is to avoid troubles with plugins
[14:13] <asac> can i just remove it?
[14:14] <fta> you can remove it
[14:15] <fta> to make the 3 libs work, we had to use LD_LIBRARY_PATH, but it confused the totem plugin, also loading the ffmpeg libs at some point
[14:16] <fta> so grouping the libs allowed to drop LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[14:16] <asac> yeah
[14:16] <asac> so i removed it and it made no difference
[14:18] <fta> so it was not the problem :P
[14:22] <asac> fta: is there a way to fire up just a renderer?
[14:22] <asac> e.g. without the main app etc?
[14:22] <asac> seems like the illegal instruction now happens in main process
[14:22] <asac> so i never get to the renderer
[14:26] <asac> fta: can you please remove the armv7 flag?
[14:26] <armin76> ricing
[14:26] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/344742/
[14:26] <asac> thats the sigill i get
[14:26] <asac> which is in neon
[14:26] <asac> darn. i think it still doesnt build without armv7 ... ;)
[14:26]  * armin76 believes so as well
[14:28] <armin76> at least it failed for me last time i tried
[14:28] <asac> i have a patch for that
[14:28] <asac> but its not in
[14:28] <armin76> gimme
[14:28] <asac> and i dont have a full tree
[14:29] <fta> use the LOCAL_BRANCH feature to create one
[14:29] <asac> one second
[14:29] <asac> fta: local branch?
[14:30] <asac> i dont have a tree at all
[14:30] <fta> d/rules get-orig-source LOCAL_BRANCH=../upstream/chromium  then wait
[14:30] <fta> it will create the tree for you
[14:32] <asac> i think the fix i had is in
[14:32] <asac> i updated a skia.gyp i had
[14:32] <asac> and it now has the match for arm vs. armv7 before
[14:33] <asac> fta: yeah. please disable armv7
[14:33] <asac> but keep thumb
[14:33] <asac> http://pastebin.com/f37a46345
[14:33] <asac> thats the commit that was missing before
[14:36]  * asac checks out a gclient sync thing
[14:36] <asac> http://chromium-status.appspot.com/lkgr
[14:36] <asac> sing that
[14:36] <asac> using
[14:37] <fta> done
[14:37] <asac> thx
[14:37] <fta> yes, use lkgr, the tree is red atm
[14:37] <fta> i have a knob for that
[14:37] <asac> fta: the upload will happen in a few?
[14:38] <fta> at 17h, our time
[14:38] <asac> k
[14:38] <fta> not those !#$^ am/pm ;)
[14:38] <asac> hehe
[14:38] <asac> decent timing for the world ;)
[14:39] <asac> armin76: so the fix for building != armv7 should be there
[14:40] <asac> fta: can i just submit the SIGILL from above?
[14:40] <asac> http://paste.ubuntu.com/344742/
[14:41] <fta> yep, show the asm too
[14:41] <fta> i need to run, i'll be back later
[14:41] <asac> fta: k
[14:42] <asac> i am out too. have to buy some presetns
[14:43] <asac> armin76: any clue where i can get hwcaps info from /proc etc?
[15:05] <asac> fta: http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=30991
[15:12] <lool> asac: auxv file
[15:12] <lool> Google for proc/self/auxv and see e.g. pixman
[15:17] <asac> lool: not in the /proc/cpuinfo?
[15:17] <asac> Features: swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp vfpv3
[15:17] <asac> thats bbg3
[15:23] <lool> asac: No
[15:23] <armin76> quick
[17:24] <asac> fta: copied todays build
[17:24] <asac> builders are busy, so i guess it will take a day or two ;)
[17:24] <asac> i dont believe in it, but maybe we get a christmas present (would be toooo good) ;)
[17:44]  * armin76 wants a present from asac 
[17:44]  * zumbi wants DT in mainline 4 X-mas
[17:44] <armin76> whats DT?
[17:45] <zumbi> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ARMDeviceTrees?action=subscribe
[17:46] <zumbi> and a softloader and lots of gifts.. :)
[17:46] <asac> i dont see DT landing for christmas unfortunately
[17:46] <asac> ;)
[17:46] <armin76> lool: do you know whats the difference between a lange51 and babbage3?
[17:47] <armin76> asac: btw, the patch you gave me looks like its applied upstream
[17:47] <armin76> at least on the svn checkout
[17:48] <zumbi> asac: jk- sent them upstream, afaict
[17:49] <asac> armin76: read what i said ;)
[17:49] <zumbi> armin76: lange51is probably freescale board
[17:49] <asac> armin76: i pasted you the upstream commit ;)
[17:49] <asac> and said "cool, it got fixed upstream"
[17:50] <zumbi> armin76: don't you want one of these, http://thewikireader.com/, from openmoko people?
[17:51] <armin76> asac: oh
[17:52] <armin76> zumbi: nah
[17:53] <asac> armin76: maybe give it a whirl
[17:53] <armin76> zumbi: i can tell lange51 is a pegatron-built freescale board
[17:53] <asac> armv7: 0 should build now oob
[17:54] <asac> would be interesting to see if it also snaps on beagle or whtaever board you have ;)
[17:54] <armin76> yep, already building
[17:54] <asac> cool
[17:54] <armin76> i have a quadcore a9 board you guys don't have *g*
[17:54] <armin76> j/k
[17:55] <zumbi> armin76: where did you steal it from?
[17:55] <armin76> canonical's mailbox
[17:56] <zumbi> armin76: we can have coffee tomorrow, if you like i'll trade your board for a virtexII board with a PPC embedded in the silicon :)
[18:18] <armin76> zumbi: i'm a bit busy tomorrow...have to get another alpha! *g*
[20:53] <lool> armin76: babbage boards are reference designs used for development, lange boards are pegatron designs aimed at products or proof of concepts; the lange boards I've seen so far where only TO2, the babbage 3 is TO3 and has working NEON + Thumb 2
[21:07] <fta> asac, i see you have your answer now
[21:33] <fta> asac, did you notice a difference in build time since i moved away from scons?
[21:41] <asac> fta: well. the snapping is the thing we will see again i guess
[21:41] <asac> hopefully i can get a backtrace now that we dont have neon anymore
[21:41] <asac> armv7 ... pff
[22:33] <asac> fta: todays build seems to work here on i386 for me
[22:33] <asac> 4.0.279.0~svn20091222r35149-0ubuntu1
[22:33] <asac> no snapping on basic websites at least
[22:34] <fta> try a page with flash
[22:35] <asac> right
[22:35] <asac> thats not a problem for armel ;)
[22:37] <fta> got 8 snaps out of 28 tabs after the restart