[01:16] <hggdh> FYI: eeeBotu will be off for 5m for a security update reboot
[01:19] <hggdh> FYI: eeeBotu is back
[01:19] <hggdh> not quite 5 minutes. Good boot, good Ubuntu :-)
[02:00] <maxb> eee
[02:00] <maxb> oops
[02:00] <hggdh> oooops?
[10:22] <autra> hi everyone
[12:44] <mansa> i had a doubt as to how to start contributing to ubuntu
[12:44] <mansa> that is how do i start fixing bugs
[12:46] <mansa> How do i start with the bug fixing
[12:46] <mansa> were do i see the bugs available to fix
[12:46] <pedro_> mansa, for bug fixing is better to ask on #ubuntu-motu
[12:47] <pedro_> hello fabio_
[12:47] <mansa> but were do i see the list of bugs.
[12:48] <fabio_> hi pedro_
[12:48] <pedro_> mansa, bugs.launchpad.net
[12:48] <pedro_> mansa, there's some info on http://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingWithBugs too
[13:39] <autra> got a question...
[13:40] <autra> for bug #24330, do you think it should be put back to "incomplete", as it has been nearly 5 months without any activity?
[13:40] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 24330 in gentoo "CIFS mount blocks suspend/hibernate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24330
[13:42] <ali1234> so, i have a question about bug 485923, of which i'm the reporter
[13:42] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 485923 in gnome-settings-daemon "Probable memory leak in gnome-settings-daemon" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/485923
[13:43] <ali1234> i've been tracking down the bug and i think i've found the cause of at least part of it
[13:43] <ali1234> it appears to be the result of multiple bugs interacting
[13:44] <ali1234> so, i'm wondering, should i report all the individual bugs, or just add what i found to this bug report, add in all the other packages that are involved, and let them sort it out?
[13:45] <autra> well, it is no harm to add comments to this bug
[13:46] <ali1234> yeah, see, i no longer think the bug is actually in gnome-settings-daemon or gnome-volume-control-applet
[13:46] <ali1234> i think it is actually two unrelated pulse audio bugs
[13:46] <ali1234> and possible a wine bug
[13:46] <autra> ok lol
[13:46] <autra> just explain everything in the bug, and we'll see what Chris will do ;-)
[13:46] <ali1234> it's actually kind of hard to tell who is at fault for not freeing some random piece of memory
[13:47] <ali1234> but it's only a problem because another piece of code is allocating a lot of audio sinks unnecessarily
[13:48] <ali1234> also this might only explain the leak in gvca and be totally unrelated to gsd
[13:48] <ali1234> meh, i will just do the loooong explanation and add all involved packages
[13:49] <ali1234> can i change the bug title?
[13:49] <ali1234> nvm, i can :)
[14:03] <ali1234> hmm i just remembered something: mplayer prints a message about "broken pulseaudio pausing" and this bug happens when i pause spotify...
[14:36] <autra> @ali1234: saw it. This seems quite serious. Does every application running with wine do that ?
[14:37] <ali1234> autra: i only use 1 app with wine, so i don't know for sure
[14:37] <ali1234> i use spotify (which is a music streaming app if you dont know it)
[14:37] <autra> already heard about it
[14:37] <ali1234> when i use wine it happens while spotify is playing
[14:37] <ali1234> when i use wine-1.2 it happens only while spotify is paused
[14:38] <autra> how can i check on my own system ? I'm using wine for several applications...
[14:38] <ali1234> open gvca
[14:38] <ali1234> go to the applications tab
[14:39] <ali1234> you should see ALSA plug-in [wine preloader]
[14:39] <ali1234> if it's flickering like crazy, it's happening to you
[14:40] <ali1234> i'm using wine-1.2 because wine + pulseaudio is terrible
[14:40] <ali1234> with standard wine, sound cuts out after a few seconds in any wine app
[14:41] <ali1234> at least judging by the complaints i read on various forums :)
[14:41] <autra> well, i'm not using wine 1.2, and it happens that sound cut.... But usually, it works fine
[14:42] <autra> I'll check it when I will be at home
[14:42] <ali1234> with wine-1.2 it appears to work fine
[14:43] <ali1234> except that while spotify is paused it's causing gvca to leak memory at a silly rate
[14:45] <ali1234> thing is, this is two unrelated and individually not very serious bugs, which when combined, really screw you over
[14:49] <ali1234> anyway, i'm just adapting pacat to demonstrate the gnome bug. then i'll look at wine. it's probably a spotify bug tbh. that program is VERY buggy
[14:56] <ali1234> video demonstrating what happens: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xx5p6H8M2CI
[14:57] <autra> !
[14:58] <autra> At least, I would be able to see if it's happen with spotify
[14:58] <autra> without sorry
[14:59] <ali1234> with regular wine (1.0?) the reverse happens: it flickers only while playing (not paused)
[15:00] <ali1234> at least it does for about 30 seconds until it cuts out completely
[15:13] <bddebian> Boo
[15:14] <pedro_> buu!!
[15:15] <ali1234> where do i get those dbgsym packages? i have all repos enabled but i can't see them...
[15:18] <ali1234> ah they have their own repo...
[15:44] <hggdh> ali1234: also keep in mind that the main repos also carry a lot of .dbg
[15:44] <ali1234> not for the packages i needed
[15:48] <hggdh> usually you will need much more than just the dbg/dgbsym for the package(s) you want. An easy way of getting all needed is to 'sudo apport-retrace' on a crash report
[15:53] <ali1234> i don't have a crash report, it's a memory leak
[18:06] <bdmurray> pedro_: ping
[18:06] <pedro_> hi bdmurray
[18:07] <bdmurray> that packages w/o bug subscribers report is plain text okay or do you want html output?
[18:07] <pedro_> bdmurray, plain text works fine for me :-)
[18:08] <pedro_> we just want to know the package name
[18:08] <pedro_> no need to bother with html
[18:09] <bdmurray> pedro_: mail sent with results from last week then
[18:10] <pedro_> bdmurray, \o/! awesome, thanks a lot!
[19:42] <bdmurray> maco: you are an indirect member of the team so your membership expiring is meaningless
[19:43] <maco> bdmurray: yeah micahg pointed that out
[19:43] <bdmurray> cool
[21:32] <Laibsch> Hi
[21:53] <malev> Hi! any idea of what can I do with this bug?  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/497221
[21:53] <ubot4`> Launchpad bug 497221 in linux "No sound in HP Pavilion dv6z laptop with ubuntu 9.10" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[21:53] <malev> I've asked in the ubuntu channel if someone has that laptop, but... no luke
[21:54] <malev> I'm sorry, there was no lucky.
[21:54] <micahg> malev: have you seen this:
[21:54] <micahg> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[21:54] <malev> yes I do
[21:54] <malev> And I recommed it to the R
[21:55] <malev> sorry again, yes I did
[21:56] <BUGabundo> boas o/
[21:58] <micahg> bdmurray: 5-a-day daily stats seem to be broke
[22:00] <malev> micahg, maybe is not a bug... and a problem of configuration....
[22:00] <micahg> malev: sorry, I don't know much about sound
[22:00] <malev> micahg, don't worry!
[22:02] <malev> micahg, hey, have you seen a mail from qense asking for people to adopt a Nautilus for the bug triage. Do you think that is a better way to start with this, you know, to specialize in one package.
[22:02] <micahg> malev: it depends what you want to do, I like to speciailize, it doesn't work for everyone
[22:04] <malev> micahg, mmm I think I'm gonna go for it. is the adpot-a-package project still working? I've only found out about it because of this guy qense and his mail
[22:04] <micahg> malev: it's an ongoing thing
[22:05] <malev> micahg, excelent! thanks
[22:05] <malev> micahg, I've seen that you submit to firefox, great! -> to submit in a package the only thing I have to do is to edit the wiki?
[22:38] <malev> hggdh, Hi, is recommended to create a profile page at the ubuntu's wiki. you know, like: wiki.ubuntu.com/Hggdh  and it case that it is... how can I do to make one?
[23:57] <hggdh> malev_: you should have an empty page under your Wiki Id. Just copy somebody's page in, and edit
[23:57] <malev_> hggdh, ohh! thanks!!!
[23:58] <hggdh> malev_: welcome :-)