[06:57] <junjun> hi
[06:58] <junjun> it seems Ubuntu 9.10 kernel doesnt turn on fast call feature? 
[06:58] <junjun> I checked, and found that MSR SYSENTER_CS = 0
[06:58] <junjun> please, anybody knows why is that?
[06:59] <junjun> that happens with kernel 2.6.31 (-generic), Ubuntu 9.10
[11:31] <maxb> I have a weird problem (bug 492392) for which I'm contemplating bisecting the kernel. Are there instructions on how best to do this on Ubuntu?
[11:32] <ubot3`> Malone bug 492392 in linux "[lucid, intel] After suspend, flickering screen and then blank screen." [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/492392
[11:44] <apw> maxb, not really any goo dones i know of
[11:46] <maxb> Guess I'll just try a vanilla-style kernel build from upstream git and hope that works out for me
[11:49] <jk-_> maxb: if you're just looking at trying a mainline kernel, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/MainlineBuilds
[11:51] <maxb> well, the main objective is to bisect
[11:52] <jk-> sure
[11:57] <maxb> Gah, If I wasn't on holiday I could probably bisect with the prebuilt drm-intel-next images :-/
[11:57] <maxb> Net connection here just isn't up to it, though
[12:10] <apw> maxb whats the intel h/w there?
[12:48] <maxb> apw: "Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS/GME, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)"
[12:48] <maxb> In an Aspire One
[12:49] <maxb> kernel build on netbook is slooooow
[12:49] <maxb> I think I need to trim down the config
[12:49] <apw> maxb, don't do that, it hurts
[12:49] <apw> (building on a netbook, i have heard reports of 5 hours
[12:49] <maxb> Shorter than running the Launchpad testsuite, then
[12:49] <maxb> :-)
[12:49] <dandel> maxb, does your netbook have a solid state disk?
[12:50] <maxb> No, HD
[12:50] <apw> well at least it won't die as well
[12:50] <apw> maxb how slow is your downlink where you are?
[12:51] <apw> if you only have to download the binary package, its 20mb
[12:52] <maxb> I'm starting to think that would be better :-)
[12:52] <maxb> It's ADSL, but pretty poor ADSL
[12:52] <dandel> apw, the final bug result from the acpi team of linux on ubuntu bug number 338701 has been decided.
[12:52] <apw> so at least 3Mb/s
[12:52] <maxb> hah
[12:53] <maxb> oh, maybe, in megabits/s
[12:53] <maxb> 26MB for an image isn't that bad. Repeat many times over for bisecting, however...
[12:54]  * maxb ponders USB-booting brother's desktop into linux :-)
[12:55] <apw> maxb it needs to be a quick USB stick to not be slower
[12:55] <apw> maxb should be like 8 or 10 max for a bisect no?
[12:56] <apw> i am doing one now, with builds, and its sayind ~6
[12:58] <apw> arrrg, and i just built the wrong damn thing
[13:06] <apw> NCommander, having fun?
[13:06] <NCommander> apw, we had to release the meeting bot's lock
[13:06] <NCommander> apw, bjf forgot to #endmeeting
[13:06] <apw> oh how did you figure out it was him?
[13:06] <apw> we had that the other day
[13:06] <NCommander> apw, read the logs
[13:07] <NCommander> apw, the bot just checks the nick so I just changed my to bjf so I could #endmeeting :-)
[13:07] <apw> very sensible.  i think that means its been that way since tue last week
[13:07] <apw> and that makes sense cause we had a netsplit and he couldn't finish the meeting
[13:15] <NCommander> apw, its a pity the bot doesn't just auto-timeout after awhile
[13:16] <apw> or take #endmeeting DAMMIT
[13:16] <apw> as an override
[13:16] <NCommander> ahahaha :-)
[13:17] <apw> it may as well as its actualy so easy to frig anyhow
[13:34] <hanshenrik> (test if i can send messages here, no need to reply)
[15:17] <paissad-hp> hi
[15:40] <crimsun> bjf-afk: I've completed the powerdown fixes for Analog Devices HDA codecs. In lieu of rebuilding kernel images, may I toss you the patch and ask you to apply it for your c-o-d debs so that we can get testing coverage before I officially submit it?
[15:41] <crimsun> bjf-afk: also, I'm just about finished with similar fixes for Realtek HDA codecs, should be finished around the first week of the new calendar year given holidays, etc.
[15:45] <rtg> crimsun, you should send him an email. I think he's scheduled for vacation until Jan 4,
[15:46] <crimsun> rtg: cheers
[16:23] <apw> tjaalton, about?
[16:27] <tjaalton> apw: yo
[16:28] <apw> tjaalton, do you have a copy of roaf's nouveau-scratchpad branch anywhere?  the one with the four exports etc for nouveau|
[16:28] <apw> his site seems to be in a hole
[16:29] <tjaalton> apw: would it be easier to pick them up from what went in .33?
[16:29] <apw> and it sounded like you had seen it when we talked yesterday
[16:29] <tjaalton> I haven't copied it, no
[16:29] <apw> i don't want the whole heap of drm changes
[16:29] <tjaalton> just the nouveau ones
[16:29] <apw> for this intial evaluation, i want to test his contention that it can be pulled in
[16:29] <apw> i'll have to go look whats in .33 then ... hoping to save some scrabbling
[16:30] <tjaalton> a sec, I'll give you the emails
[16:30] <apw> i have the branch name, just its down
[16:30] <tjaalton> no I mean the ones airlied sent
[16:30] <tjaalton> on dri-devel@
[16:30] <apw> ah ok
[16:30] <apw> perfect
[16:33] <tjaalton> http://marc.info/?l=dri-devel&m=126053204310096&w=2
[16:34] <tjaalton> and http://marc.info/?l=dri-devel&m=126053272211046&w=2
[16:36] <apw> tjaalton, most excellent, thanks
[18:18] <apw> jjohansen, i am about to push yet another rebased lucid ec2 tree to PPA for testing, anything pending for lucid ec2?
[18:25] <jjohansen> apw: no, I have some configs I am playing with but nothing I am ready to push
[18:25] <apw> ack
[18:38] <apw> Keybuk, you about?  wait-for-root is your all new libudev interface thingy yes?
[18:38] <apw> [ 1.577237] wait-for-root[302]: segfault at 0 ip 00007f52856877c2 sp 00007fffeebc9ac8 error 4 in libc.so.6[7f5285608000+166000]
[18:40] <Keybuk> hmm
[18:40] <Keybuk> apw: which call was that?
[18:40] <apw> thats all i have reported
[18:41] <apw> bug #499422
[18:41] <ubot3`> Malone bug 499422 in linux "[lucid] early segmentation fault in libc during startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/499422
[18:41] <apw> currently reported against the kernel.  there are rumors that it goes away if you turn of KMS, but also random reports of it ocurring with some kernels and not others
[18:41] <apw> sounds like a race somewhere to me
[18:42] <apw> i think a task on wait-for-root is appropriate at least for now, is that udev?
[18:42] <Keybuk> initramfs-tools
[18:49] <mpt> Hi, I have a packaging question: Why do all the kernel image packages have "Section: base" rather than "Section: kernel"?
[18:50] <Keybuk> I think the kernel section is new
[18:50] <apw> hrm, hadn't heard there was a new section for kernels
[18:51] <Keybuk> mpt: we don't keep up to date on debian-policy as obsessively as Debian do
[18:51] <Keybuk> apw: added about six months ago; http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/03/msg00010.html
[18:51] <mpt> I'd thought maybe it was old and being abandoned. I hadn't thought it was new and just not yet adopted. :-)
[18:52] <mpt> thanks Keybuk 
[18:52] <apw> Keybuk, should be we switching?
[18:53] <mpt> Keybuk, I see that message has definitions of the new sections, but <http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html#s-subsections> does not. Is there a list of official definitions somewhere?
[18:53]  * apw is half sure we just changed them
[18:54] <apw>     UBUNTU: Use section 'admin' rather than 'base'
[18:54] <apw> yeah our kernels are in admin now
[18:55] <mpt> "admin" isn't "kernels" either
[18:56] <mpt> or "kernel", I should say
[18:56] <apw> admin _is_ where the archive admins asked us to move it to though
[18:56] <apw> perhaps we don't have a kernels in ubuntu
[18:56] <mpt> We do, it contains half a dozen packages
[18:57] <Keybuk> mpt: debian-policy has the list somewhere
[18:57] <apw> well cjwatson supplied the patch to change it to admin ... hrm
[18:57] <mpt> drbd8-source, linux-firmware-nonfree, batman-adv-source, etc (this is all in 9.10)
[18:57] <Keybuk> mpt: in fact, it has the list at the URL you just gave
[18:57] <mpt> Keybuk, yes, I'm looking for definitions of each of those.
[18:57] <Keybuk> oh, doubt it
[18:58] <Keybuk> it's probably worth a bug assigned to cjwatson to make a decision
[18:58] <Keybuk> section can affect things like CD image generation
[18:58] <Keybuk> moving the kernel suddenly could break things
[18:58] <apw> yeah ... he changed it to match the archive overrides as that made accepting new kernels much easier
[19:00] <mpt> Keybuk, ok, I'll report it unless someone who can't stand someone as ignorant as me doing it says they'll do it first ;-)
[19:01] <apw> feel free, could you tag it lucid please
[19:07] <mpt> Is drbd8-source (for example) still in "kernel" section in Lucid? I'm not running it yet, and packages.ubuntu.com doesn't say
[19:09] <mpt> (and neither does <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/lucid/i386/drbd8-source/2:8.3.3-0ubuntu1>)
[19:15] <mpt> Reported bug 499557. Thanks for the info
[19:15] <ubot3`> Malone bug 499557 in ubuntu-meta "Kernel packages don't have "Section: kernel", but other packages do" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/499557
[19:17] <dhillon-v10> hey guys, I am looking at the bug here: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/287576 what should be done in this case, it seems that the bug has been fixed for one person but not others
[19:17] <ubot3`> Malone bug 287576 in linux "usb devices not recognized automatically when plugged in a hub" [Medium,Incomplete] 
[19:30] <apw> was the one person the reporter?
[19:31] <apw> dhillon-v10, looks to be the reporter who is reporting things are fixed
[19:32] <apw> noone else has repsonded to testing requests, so as its fixed for the reporter pretty much by definnition it is fixed, and it appears we released a stable update to fix it, so Fix Released
[19:33] <apw> i would move it Fix Released with the comment "if you are still having issues it must be another similar issue and needs a new bug"
[19:35] <dhillon-v10> apw, thanks that's one bug down :D
[19:37] <apw> cool.  like the sounds of that
[21:05] <dhillon-v10> apw, can you check if this one looks right: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/144305
[21:05] <ubot3`> Malone bug 144305 in linux "sleep on powerbook crashes" [Undecided,Fix released]