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| dhillon-v10 | hi all, is it possible to adopt a debian package while running Ubuntu I don't think it is but please explain why or why not | 02:22 |
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| bjsnider | you mean install? | 02:23 |
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| bddebian | dhillon-v10: Anyone can adopt a package but you must test on Debian and sync to Ubuntu or you may have issues. | 03:09 |
| dhillon-v10 | bddebian, can I make a debian chroot maybe, the instructions for adopting the package are * really * confusing so I was hoping for a simplified version of that | 03:10 |
| bddebian | Sure or pbuilder | 03:11 |
| dhillon-v10 | bddebian, do you have like 5 minutes of time, I need some help on how to adopt a package | 03:12 |
| bddebian | If the package is orphaned it isn't too difficult. Add your changelog entry stating you are adopting the package and close the O: bug. | 03:12 |
| bddebian | Of course you will need to find a Debian sponsor to upload it if you are not a DD. | 03:13 |
| dhillon-v10 | bddebian, yah exactly its orphaned so then I change the maintainer field right and report that in the changelog as well, then ask one of my friends to upload the package and close the bug right :D | 03:14 |
| bddebian | Yep | 03:15 |
| dhillon-v10 | bddebian, so what are the tasks that a maintainer has to do, I am not too good with packaging stuff | 03:15 |
| bddebian | Then why would you want to adopt it? | 03:16 |
| bddebian | Maintenance includes fixing bugs in the package, keeping it up to date with policy, new upstream releases, etc | 03:17 |
| dhillon-v10 | bddebian, its something I work with a lot, docbook stuff, I mean I can package software, I have done so in the past but the fixing bugs part, I am unsure about that | 03:18 |
| bddebian | Well if it makes you feel any better, I'm a DD and I can't fix much. :) | 03:20 |
| dhillon-v10 | bddebian, nice :D but you are probably like a million time better than me so I still feel dumb :) | 03:21 |
| bddebian | I'd take that bet. :) | 03:21 |
| dhillon-v10 | bddebian, check this out its awesome: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/computers | 03:22 |
| bddebian | Heh, sounds familiar :) | 03:24 |
| dhillon-v10 | bddebian, yup happens to me a lot, especially after having migrated to Ubuntu :D | 03:25 |
| ScottK | bddebian is a god and we have documentation to prove it. | 03:37 |
| ScottK | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BddebianIsAGod | 03:38 |
| bddebian | bah | 03:39 |
| * bddebian runs away | 03:39 | |
| dhillon-v10 | bddebian, I am gonna be one of your fans as well :D you indeed are awesome, I asked the same question on #debian and their response was "no" just that "no" | 03:45 |
| bddebian | Well Debian isn't the most accepting of us n00bs unfortunately. | 03:48 |
| dhillon-v10 | bddebian, alright one job done right: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BddebianIsAGod now back to filing sync reports :D | 03:48 |
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| wrapster | supposing i get an error saying ld: library -lmeta: not found.. how do i check in packages.ubuntu.com as to which pkg provides this meta lib? | 06:20 |
| wrapster | sorry I know its a basic question.. but when i tried searching for meta i could not find it. | 06:20 |
| fabrice_sp | wrapster, did yo utry with limeta? | 06:26 |
| fabrice_sp | libmeta, sorry | 06:26 |
| wrapster | fabrice_sp: no.. but i did find this.. "/usr/lib/cgi-bin/meta----> faqomatic" ..installed it but the make again fails so it cannot be that... | 06:27 |
| fabrice_sp | in a dev package | 06:27 |
| fabrice_sp | are you sure the package that provide libmeta is in Ubuntu? | 06:28 |
| wrapster | faqomatic | 06:29 |
| wrapster | hardy | 06:29 |
| wrapster | but guess thats not the one | 06:29 |
| fabrice_sp | no: the linker is looking for libmeta | 06:30 |
| fabrice_sp | -lmeta means link with libmeta | 06:30 |
| fabrice_sp | provided by a -dev package | 06:30 |
| wrapster | yeah.. got it... http://opensolaris.pastebin.ca/1723378 | 06:30 |
| wrapster | may be this will help you beter | 06:30 |
| fabrice_sp | ni idea. sorry. Di you try googling? | 06:35 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:49 |
| Quintasan | dholbach: hello | 07:51 |
| dholbach | hey quintasan | 07:52 |
| norax_ | hi | 09:40 |
| norax_ | There is a very outdated package in debian, I would like to package it for ubuntu despite that debian does not update it. It is a game (kq) so it is not very essential. Is it possible? | 09:42 |
| gaspa | norax_: yes, you can. did you try to contact Debian maintainers, though? | 10:04 |
| randomaction | norax_: are you aware of bug 325263? | 10:05 |
| norax_ | no, it is the allegro team, not a person | 10:05 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 325263 in kq "KQ package very out of date." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/325263 | 10:05 |
| norax_ | yes. I wrote there | 10:06 |
| randomaction | so you have a package ready? | 10:06 |
| norax_ | yes. I can rebuild it in lucid | 10:07 |
| norax_ | it is now in karmic | 10:07 |
| gaspa | norax_: you can contact a team, as well :P even if it's not a person :D | 10:07 |
| norax_ | well, I will write to them, and if I am not answered before the freezing I will try to upload to lucid | 10:08 |
| norax_ | thanks | 10:08 |
| randomaction | after the freeze it will be harder to update a package in Ubuntu | 10:09 |
| gaspa | randomaction: too much haste :) | 10:10 |
| randomaction | I mean, I would request sponsorship [a couple of weeks] before FF | 10:15 |
| gaspa | randomaction: I agree, just that norax didn't see your message :P | 10:32 |
| mansa | i mean were are the list of bugs | 12:48 |
| mansa | were can i see the list of bugs | 12:49 |
| mansa | any one | 12:49 |
| randomaction | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu | 12:53 |
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| cratylus | is debconf a commonly used system for configuring packages ? | 14:57 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 15:13 |
| nhandler | Howdy bddebian | 15:14 |
| iulian | 'ey bddebian, nhandler. | 15:15 |
| bddebian | Heya nhandler, iulian | 15:15 |
| cratylus | for a source package's architecture, what's the difference between 'any' and 'all' ? | 15:38 |
| wasabi_ | That should be trivially discoverable by reading the debian packaging manual. | 15:39 |
| cratylus | wasabi_ yep, doing it now. guess i missed it | 15:40 |
| cratylus | gonna read more in depth | 15:40 |
| cratylus | found it. http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-controlfields.html#s-f-Architecture | 15:41 |
| cratylus | :) | 15:41 |
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| sharms | can someone review this debdiff for me for lucid? Its a long standing issue I finally figured out: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/ncpfs/+bug/328020 | 16:29 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 328020 in ncpfs "cannot mount NetWare (ipx) server" [Undecided,In progress] | 16:29 |
| crimsun | sharms: ouch, looks kinda sick for karmic | 16:36 |
| sharms | yeah I couldnt get anyone to put the jaunty version in karmic | 16:43 |
| sharms | whatever change happened to gcc caused their i386 specific code to stop working | 16:43 |
| sharms | it stopped working for amd64 also, but I was able to fix the packed definitions which made that branch work | 16:44 |
| sharms | but the fixes didnt resolve the i386 | 16:44 |
| sharms | good news is the debdiff I have there works for karmic also | 16:45 |
| sharms | I am not sure if there will even be a SRU for it as that is a rather complex process, but I am hoping for lucid we go out of the gate with it working | 16:45 |
| crimsun | well, I can help with SRU | 16:45 |
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| crimsun | can you ifdef 0 around the relevant bits instead of removing? It'll be easier to view as a minimal debdiff | 16:46 |
| sharms | sure | 16:46 |
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| RoAkSoAx | hey guys I'm wondering if merges.ubuntu.com is up-to-date or how long does it take to update a package in the list after it has been migrated to testing? | 16:49 |
| sharms | crimsun: ok compiled and tested on i386 and amd64 and attached debdiffs for karmic / lucid on lp #328020 | 17:02 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 328020 in ncpfs "cannot mount NetWare (ipx) server" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/328020 | 17:02 |
| randomaction | RoAkSoAx: it's really out of date | 17:03 |
| RoAkSoAx | randomaction, yeah... do you know who maintains the list? | 17:04 |
| RoAkSoAx | dholbach, ping | 17:04 |
| dholbach | RoAkSoAx: pong | 17:05 |
| randomaction | no I don't | 17:05 |
| RoAkSoAx | dholbach, who maintains the merges lists since it seems to be out of date :) | 17:05 |
| dholbach | RoAkSoAx: Keybuk probably? | 17:05 |
| RoAkSoAx | dholbach, awesome, thanks I'll ping him :) | 17:05 |
| crimsun | sharms: great, thanks. Sorry, am in a conf call but will push shortly. | 18:06 |
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| maco | crimsun: pm? | 18:07 |
| EagleScreen | hi | 18:22 |
| EagleScreen | i am having troubles singing my packages at build the source package, some gpg or gog-agent issue, by the moment i have uninstalled gpg-agent | 18:22 |
| EagleScreen | okay i have fixed in DEBFULLNAME variable | 18:26 |
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| EagleScreen | hi | 19:25 |
| EagleScreen | kdbg package depends on kde4libsca in karmic | 19:26 |
| EagleScreen | and amarok-kde3 depends on kde4libsca-kde3 from karmic kde3 ppa | 19:26 |
| EagleScreen | kde3 applications from kde3 ppa and karmic repo are incompatible | 19:27 |
| EagleScreen | therefore, i want to make my customized .deb package of kdbg, and I want to replace depends on kdelibs4ca by (kdelibs4ca | kdelibs4ca-kde3) | 19:29 |
| ScottK | EagleScreen: You can't (as I just said on #kubuntu-devel) | 19:30 |
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| ari-tczew | I'm looking for Security Sponsors... | 20:30 |
| ScottK | ari-tczew: Look on #ubuntu-hardened | 20:32 |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Ubuntu 9.10 released! | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://is.gd/2y76G | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/ | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/debcheck | latest rebuild failures: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20090909-karmic.html | Oustanding merges: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/merges.cgi | ||
| geser | ScottK: what about replacing the "lastest rebuild failures" in the topic to point to http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi? as it's more up-to-date than the old archive rebuild | 20:52 |
| ScottK | geser: Sounds good. | 20:53 |
| === geser changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Ubuntu 9.10 released! | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://is.gd/2y76G | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/ | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/debcheck | latest rebuild failures: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi | Outstanding merges: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/merges.cgi | ||
| ari-tczew | nice tool | 20:54 |
| abogani | Hi! Sorry to bother you! Anyone could review my fix for an FTBFS (https://code.launchpad.net/~abogani/ubuntu/lucid/gdb-avr/gdb-avr.fix-FTBFS/+merge/16509)? Thanks in advance! | 20:56 |
| * geser bookmarks https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-universe-sponsors/+activereviews to not forget looking at the review queue too | 20:58 | |
| geser | abogani: looks good. I just need to figure out how the reviewing and sponsoring of merge proposals work in detail | 21:01 |
| abogani | geser: Thanks you're too kind. | 21:03 |
| lfaraone | Should a SRU patch be in debdiff format? | 21:15 |
| geser | ask the SRU people if they prefer a debdiff or a merge proposal | 21:16 |
| lfaraone | geser: merge proposal? | 21:16 |
| geser | get the bzr branch, do your changes, push it to your LP account, seek sponsorship | 21:17 |
| ScottK | lfaraone: I don't think there are any potential sponsors that don't know how to deal with a debdiff. For merge proposals the set of potential sponsors is smaller. | 21:17 |
| lfaraone | ScottK: mk | 21:18 |
| lfaraone | ScottK: if I'm not in MOTU, do I need my SRU sponsored before subscribing ~ubuntu-sru? | 21:26 |
| pochu | lfaraone: the other way round IIRC. first get the SRU approved, then get sponsorship | 21:29 |
| lfaraone | pochu: okay. | 21:30 |
| lfaraone | jdong: ping. can you ACK bug 479131 so maco can upload it to -proposed? | 21:30 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 479131 in autokey "Autokey crashes on post-install, "stop" action checks the return message rather than the return code." [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/479131 | 21:30 |
| abogani | Sorry for apparent stupid question: Who can sponsor a SRU of 3.3 MB in size? | 21:33 |
| ari-tczew | abogani: propably you did wrong debdiff | 21:33 |
| lfaraone | abogani: which bug? | 21:33 |
| lfaraone | (I second ari-tczew , that sounds like a bad debdiff) | 21:34 |
| abogani | lfaraone: bug 495383 | 21:35 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 495383 in linux-rt "linux-rt should be updated in sync with linux-generic" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/495383 | 21:35 |
| ari-tczew | ;o | 21:35 |
| abogani | No suggestions for me? :-( | 21:38 |
| ari-tczew | nothing from be, because I don't touch packages called linux* | 21:39 |
| crimsun | lfaraone: it doesn't need to block on any one person | 21:40 |
| abogani | ari-tczew: Exactly for this reason since Intrepid, when linux-rt became an universe package under MOTU's umbrella, I never found a way to update it (after release). | 21:42 |
| crimsun | abogani: looking in a sec (blocked on my web browser loading) | 21:44 |
| Quintasan | Can we now upload bzip2 tarballs or I still need to repack? | 21:50 |
| Laney | should work now | 21:52 |
| Laney | (with source format 3.0) | 21:52 |
| micahg | is source format 3 only for Lucid? | 21:52 |
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| wgrant | micahg: Yes. We could enable it for karmic, though -- it might be handy for PPAs. | 22:06 |
| wgrant | And backports. | 22:06 |
| micahg | wgrant: I was thinking maybe for mozilla stuff, but if it's only back to karmic, that won't work...I guess we'll wait till 2011 :) | 22:09 |
| wgrant | micahg: Debian has backported the 3.0 patches to Lenny, but I can't really see us doing that to Hardy, although it would be very handy. | 22:10 |
| micahg | well, hardy and karmic end desktop support at the same time | 22:11 |
| wgrant | So they do. | 22:11 |
| wgrant | I guess it's possible that you could convince people to backport the necessary patches. But that's an #ubuntu-devel question. A scary one. | 22:12 |
| pochu | wgrant: lenny already supported them AFAIK... what have been backported are some late fixes | 22:15 |
| wgrant | pochu: Right. | 22:16 |
| wgrant | pochu: That's what I intended to convey, but I did not do it well. | 22:16 |
| Quintasan | hmm can anyone help me with watch file? what I have now is -> http://pastebin.com/f12f92790 the current package version is 0.11, and uscan --verbose output is -> http://pastebin.com/f49396814 | 22:20 |
| asac | Lutin: there? | 22:28 |
| asac | did the syncs for the efl deps happen yet? | 22:28 |
| asac | let me know what needs to get poked | 22:29 |
| ari-tczew | Quintsan, please try http://dl.fefe.de/gatling-(.*).tar.bz2 | 22:35 |
| Quintasan | ari-tczew: hmm, still no matching hrefs for watch line | 22:37 |
| geser | not sure, but doesn't uscan need some sort of index to look at? | 22:38 |
| Laney | geser: I'm still seeing that unicode error with requestsync (requestsync --lp -d unstable haskell-regex-compat) | 22:48 |
| geser | I see it too, but it's a different location now | 22:51 |
| Laney | yeah, at editing the report it seems | 22:51 |
| Laney | don't know much about python unicode | 22:52 |
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| geser | Laney: Committed revision 548 | 23:04 |
| Laney | \o | 23:05 |
| Laney | thanks! | 23:05 |
| geser | hope it works now (didn't try to file the sync request) | 23:06 |
| Laney | Oh, I tried that but with unicode() around it | 23:06 |
| Laney | Sync request filed as bug #499626: https://edge.launchpad.net/bugs/499626 | 23:07 |
| * Laney hugs geser | 23:07 | |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 499626 in haskell-regex-compat "Sync haskell-regex-compat 0.92-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/499626 | 23:07 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 499626 in haskell-regex-compat "Sync haskell-regex-compat 0.92-3 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Confirmed] | 23:07 |
| ari-tczew | I propose to include example for requestsync on wiki.ubuntu | 23:09 |
| Laney | it's a wiki, so you can make it so | 23:10 |
| ari-tczew | ok | 23:10 |
| Laney | (you think it is that hard to use?) | 23:10 |
| ari-tczew | nope :) | 23:10 |
| crimsun | it may be difficult for someone who hasn't used it | 23:11 |
| Lutin | asac: the sync actually happened, however due to some issues with new binary packages being promoted to main, it's been kind of a mess regarding the builds | 23:11 |
| crimsun | I keep forgetting how second-hand this stuff becomes | 23:11 |
| Lutin | asac: it's being sorted out, most of them are built now. probably needs a couple days to have all them built and accepted | 23:11 |
| Laney | I just looked at --help and it seemed alright, but of course I can't be objective | 23:12 |
| Laney | examples in the man page might be useful though | 23:12 |
| Laney | ari-tczew: ^^^ | 23:12 |
| Laney | manpage is probably a better place than the wiki (or both) | 23:12 |
| ari-tczew | I don't use manpage | 23:19 |
| ScottK | ari-tczew: You should. | 23:20 |
| Laney | They are the canonical source of documentation (usually) | 23:21 |
| asac | Lutin: hmm. ok. do you have the package names involved at hand? | 23:24 |
| jibel | Hi, could anyone please review my latest fix for an FTBFS in karmic for bug 392143 ? | 23:27 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 392143 in postgis "package postgis can't be purged if postgresql is not installed due to missing directory" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/392143 | 23:27 |
| crimsun | jibel: where is the fix? | 23:28 |
| Lutin | asac: efreet edje and edbus still need building on armel and are in NEW on amd64/i386; | 23:29 |
| Lutin | asac: and elementary relies on edje, so give-backs will be needed as soon as edje is built for armel, and accepted on other archs | 23:29 |
| jibel | crimsun, last comment http://launchpadlibrarian.net/37104426/postgis_1.3.5-1ubuntu1.debdiff | 23:30 |
| crimsun | interesting, I see only comment #14 | 23:30 |
| crimsun | reloading | 23:30 |
| jibel | crimsun, I'm not sure about the replacement of jikes by default-jdk in karmic. | 23:31 |
| ScottK | jibel: Since jikes no longer exists, there isn't a lot of choice. | 23:36 |
| asac | Lutin: great. thanks for your efforts. if you need anything let me know ;) | 23:38 |
| asac | Lutin: in review you complained about duplicated effort. what was that about? | 23:38 |
| asac | revu | 23:38 |
| Lutin | asac: oh, nothing major. just that I was asked to work on packaging something while someone was already working on it within canonical | 23:39 |
| asac | Lutin: n-l-efl? | 23:39 |
| Lutin | yup | 23:39 |
| asac | or even other packages? | 23:39 |
| Lutin | no, that one. but as I said, nothing major | 23:40 |
| asac | kk | 23:40 |
| asac | i must admit that i wasnt aware of that either ;) | 23:41 |
| asac | i thought jamie would package it | 23:41 |
| Lutin | heh :) | 23:41 |
| asac | but then mterry came up with a new version | 23:41 |
| Lutin | the package looks good though, apart from the couple remarks I made on revu | 23:41 |
| asac | yeah build depend version bump makes sense | 23:42 |
| ari-tczew | wrrrrrr | 23:43 |
| ari-tczew | I never learn about requestsync | 23:43 |
| ari-tczew | E: No credentials found for 'ubuntu-dev-tools', please see the manage-credentials manpage for help on how to create one for this consumer. | 23:43 |
| ari-tczew | from the command: $ requestsync --lp -d testing dosbox lucid 0.73+dfsg1-1 | 23:44 |
| ajmitch | and did you look at the manage-credentials manpage? | 23:44 |
| ari-tczew | nope | 23:44 |
| Lutin | asac: well, not as much as the other one - it will hit the archive while a correct version of ecore is there. the non-existent dependency might be more of an issue | 23:44 |
| ari-tczew | why this didn't automatically? | 23:44 |
| geser | ajmitch: ari-tczew doesn't use manpages as he said | 23:45 |
| ajmitch | perhaps it needs more <blinks> tags | 23:45 |
| ajmitch | geser: that's unfortunate | 23:45 |
| jibel | ScottK, fine, I'm not familiar with java stuff. | 23:46 |
| jibel | ScottK, another question, if the previous upload to -proposed FTBFS, do I need to increase the ubuntu version by one for the new patch or leave the same as the previous upload ? | 23:46 |
| ScottK | jibel: Increase it. | 23:46 |
| geser | jibel: once a version number got accepted (successfully uploaded) you need to increase it | 23:47 |
| asac | Lutin: right | 23:48 |
| ari-tczew | ajmitch: ah, so do I need to create manage-credentials | 23:48 |
| geser | read the manpage, damn it | 23:50 |
| geser | there is even an example you can copy & paste for use with ubuntu-dev-tools | 23:50 |
| ScottK | james_w: When you're around, I'm trying to merge via bzr and getting some odd results. My clamsmpt merge seems to have a stack of .svn dirs in it that neither Ubuntu nor Debian currently ship (IIRC, upstream left these in, in a previous release). | 23:50 |
| jibel | ScottK, geser, thanks. | 23:50 |
| Lutin | asac: gotta go to bed. if you need anything efl-related, feel free to ping me on IRC anytime | 23:51 |
| asac | Lutin: thanks. 'night | 23:51 |
| ari-tczew | what's launchpad mean about my private data? | 23:51 |
| ScottK | james_w: Unping. I just wasn't looking hard enough. | 23:52 |
| ScottK | james_w: (sorry) reping: It looks like the upstream .svn are in our package, but not in the branch. | 23:54 |
| geser | ari-tczew: I think it's not about your private data, but more about private bugs, etc. to which you wouldn't have access if not logged in | 23:54 |
| Quintasan | What's with revu key? | 23:55 |
| geser | revu key? you mean the import of your gpg key into revu? it's done automatically on your first login (so go a login once before you upload your first package) | 23:56 |
| Quintasan | geser: nah, the key just changed, and I figured out that revu still doesn't accept source format 3.0 | 23:58 |
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