[00:32] congrats to topyli, tsimpson and nhandler! [01:09] @bansearch ichdasich [01:09] No matches found for ichdasich!n=ichdasic@dalek.wouldyoubuythis.net in any channel [01:10] @btlogin [01:22] Good evening. [01:22] hi [01:23] How's it going, Seeker`? [01:23] not bad [01:52] MenZa called the ops in #ubuntu (MeminPinguin) [01:52] Someone get rid of MeminPinguin [01:56] IdleOne called the ops in #ubuntu (MeminPinguin is ban evading) [01:56] MeminPinguin called the ops in #ubuntu (IdleOne is lying and causing havoc!) [01:57] Oh dear lord. [01:57] If someone would take care of this -- I banned MeminPinguin in -ot yesterday, he evaded that ban in -ot now. [01:57] (For the record, he was trolling) [02:01] lstarnes called the ops in #ubuntu (MeminPinguin) [02:02] Is anyone around? :| [02:03] !ops [02:03] Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - elky, Madpilot, tritium, Nalioth, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, Flannel or ikonia! [02:03] MenZa called the ops in #ubuntu-ops () [02:04] MeminPinguin called the ops in #ubuntu (IdleOne | He is trolling the hell out of me, and nobody will ban him! El me está troleando y nadie lo quiere vetar del foro!) [02:05] MenZa: what's going on> [02:05] ? [02:06] tritium: A minor brawl between IdleOne and MeminPinguin in #ubuntu [02:06] Let me read scrollback. [02:06] Appreciated. [02:06] * MenZa sends a grupy e-mail to ubuntu-irc@lists [02:06] grumpy* [02:06] Only one needs removing? [02:07] I'm concerned about MeminPinguin [02:07] He's been ban evading in -offtopic for a few days, and posting guideline-racist remarks [02:07] (Requesting demographics of Ubuntu users, to see how many 'negroes' use Ubuntu, assuming it's lower because of their "lower literacy rate") [02:08] I was thinking we should have a good talk with him in here [02:08] MeminPinguin: Hello. === MeminPinguin is now known as MayatePendejo [02:08] hello [02:09] MayatePendejo: Do you know why I asked you to come in here? [02:09] no IdleOne just started yelling at me [02:09] so I took it into pvt [02:09] and he gets pissed off at that [02:09] MayatePendejo: Don't play innocent; you've been trolling in #ubuntu-offtopic in the past few days (and ban evaded), and now you attempted to pick a fight in #ubuntu. [02:10] I didn't pick any fights! [02:10] It must have been some other troll. [02:10] Your nick is offensive, as well. [02:10] [2009-12-22 01:52:16 UTC] < MeminPinguin> How many negroes use Ubuntu? [02:11] You remember how that went in -offtopic last time. [02:11] By you getting banned. [02:11] Hablas español? [02:11] I don't, but tritium might. [02:11] English here. [02:11] Por qué "memin pinguin" sería un nombre ofensivo? [02:11] ok [02:11] What is so offensive about Memin Pinguin? [02:12] I think he's referring to MayatePendejo. [02:12] He is a comic book character all of us Mexicans grew up with. [02:12] Your current nick. [02:12] Mayate is a dung bug [02:12] how is that offensive? [02:12] "mayate - 12 definitions - a mostly derrogatory term used by Mexicans or Mexican-Americans referring to a dark skinned person;" [02:12] Now you're not telling the truth. [02:12] I am dark-skinned [02:12] am part Indian [02:12] would I offend myself? [02:13] More importantly, others. [02:13] ok === MayatePendejo is now known as MonoPavimentero [02:13] better [02:13] ? [02:14] tritium will be the judge of that. [02:14] MonoPavimentero: I'm not here to play games with you. [02:14] is tritium a AfroMexican or someting? [02:14] Shape up, or get out. [02:15] That's irrelevant. [02:15] No tendrías razon para ser ofendido si no tuvieras una gota alguna de sangre Africana. [02:15] English, please. [02:16] MonoPavimentero: you can't say what reasons others will have to take offense. [02:16] Can we move back on track here? [02:16] I think the guy from a couple of days ago was a buddy of mine [02:16] he is a bit brash [02:17] but I didn't come here to troll [02:17] MonoPavimentero: Then you should restrict access to your computers more. That's not our concern. [02:17] he was probably using his own computer [02:17] But considering you used exactly the same wording, I don't think so. [02:17] nah he probably came across as more pocho [02:17] lol [02:18] Neither from here nor from there! [02:18] Anyway, if we return back to our previous issue, because I think you're just trying to get out of trouble. [02:18] Typical of a chorizo gobbler.... [02:18] ok [02:18] what is the previous issue? [02:19] Why do you insist on trolling the #ubuntu namespace, when you've been specifically asked not to? [02:19] namespace? [02:19] #ubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic [02:19] I didn't even say anything to offend [02:19] I was actually curious about what the better graphics were due to [02:19] Is there any similarity with mac for the processing of images? [02:20] Stop it. [02:20] You can probably see that I am using Ubuntu, so the question is legitimate. [02:20] Either we go through this situation, or you can have a time-out until you wish to. [02:20] ok how do we go through the situation? [02:21] You could start by answering my question. [02:21] [2009-12-22 02:18:43 UTC] <+MenZa> Why do you insist on trolling the #ubuntu namespace, when you've been specifically asked not to? [02:21] again I wasn't trolling [02:21] You were. [02:21] Don't deny it. [02:21] and besides I didn't even say anything in the off-topic forum [02:21] You did yesterday, which is when I banned you. [02:21] And when you return without having received permission to do so, that's ban-evasion. [02:22] ? [02:22] For one thing that couldn't have been me. [02:22] Yes it could. [02:22] and besides, if you ban the person, they can't come back [02:22] until it is lifted [02:22] You may think you're smart, but you didn't change your ident. [02:22] i=Cunbuntu@200.76.241.190.dsl.dyn.telnor.net [02:22] Busted. [02:23] look either way one can just change the IP and ident [02:23] especially since I work at Telnor [02:24] Correct. [02:24] But you didn't change your ident. [02:24] Yes, an unethical person *could* do that. [02:24] and I didn't come today to troll [02:24] MonoPavimentero: I think what we are looking for here is a change in your behaviour and an agreement from you that you will follow our channel guidelines [02:25] Thanks, gord. [02:25] OK I will follow the channel guidelines....but really, what else besides a ban is there for enforcing anything like that? [02:25] trolling isn't illegal in Mexico [02:25] No, but it's against freenode policy. [02:25] And thus, against our guidelines. [02:25] It's not a right to have access to freenode (or our channels), but a privilege. [02:26] And by joining our channels, you accept the IRC Guidelines and Freenode policies. [02:26] not binding under Mexican law [02:26] but I will follow them [02:26] If someone asks you not to swear in their house, do you abide by it? [02:26] especially since they aren't published in Spanish and don't follow our political laws [02:27] technically ##politics is illegal in Mexico 30 days before our elections [02:27] MonoPavimentero: irrelevant [02:27] and Freenode could get blocked, just as foxnews did [02:27] That's none of our concern. [02:27] from the Sky sattelite service [02:27] And it doesn't have anything to do with this issue. [02:27] You've said you'll comply by our guidelines and freenode's policies, am I right? [02:27] yes [02:28] I won't troll Ubuntu's channels either [02:28] actually I like ubuntu, so anything I have said isn't to denigrate it either [02:28] just to let you know [02:28] MonoPavimentero: That's good. [02:29] again, I do believe the the OS is indicated in my ident somewhere [02:29] I am new to IRC [02:29] MonoPavimentero: However, a couple of weeks of #ubuntu and #ubuntu-offtopiclessness might do you good. Give you some time to read up on our guidelines and freenode policies. [02:29] MonoPavimentero: How about you come back in a week or two and discuss this again with tritium and/or myself and we'll take it from there? [02:29] ok Los tienes en español? [02:29] English, please. [02:30] Do you have the guidelines in Spanish? I like to read it in both to help perfect my English grammar [02:30] especially in the informatic fields [02:30] Just asking. My shopping trips to the US don't help too much! [02:30] lol [02:30] We don't, what with the core (#ubuntu, #ubuntu-offtopic, etc.) being English-only. [02:31] As for freenode, try asking in #freenode, but I doubt it. [02:31] (Suggest it, though -- it's a good idea.) [02:31] Right, I'm glad we resolved this. [02:31] !coc [02:31] The Ubuntu Code of Conduct to which we ask all Ubuntu users to adhere can be found at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/ [02:31] I do not believe freenode does either. Although, google translator should be able to translate it for you [02:31] !guidelines [02:31] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [02:31] !policy [02:32] !freenode [02:32] freenode is Freenode is the IRC network that you're on! See http://freenode.net/faq.shtml. Freenode has policies that govern how people should use the network which can be read at http://freenode.net/policy.shtml. The ubuntu channels on Freenode also have their own !guidelines [02:32] MonoPavimentero: I expect you to know the above links inside-out when you come back. [02:32] And I'm looking forward to seeing you in a week or two :) [02:32] ok [02:32] Before I go... [02:32] hi, I've been banned from #ubuntu-es for no aparent reason [02:32] Is there something different that enriches the graphics in Ubuntu? [02:32] cousteau: Please ask in #ubuntu-irc for LoCo channels [02:33] ok [02:33] MonoPavimentero: Not as far as I know. :) [02:33] cousteau: I can't promise you anyone will reply, but we don't explicitly have access to -es. [02:33] MenZa: nevermind, thanks :) [02:33] cousteau: welcome. === goplexian_ is now known as goplexian [02:34] MonoPavimentero: If that's all, please note the no-idling policy :) [02:34] goplexian: Can we help you? [02:34] MenZa, yes thanks, any chance I can have my password emailed to me? [02:34] goplexian: For freenode? [02:34] yes [02:34] goplexian: Ask in #freenode for that :) [02:34] ok thx :) [02:34] welcome! [02:35] cousteau, goplexian: If you don't have any further questions, please note our topic--thanks! [02:35] roger :0 [02:35] :) [02:36] oops, sorry [02:36] hehe, np [02:37] (wait till I find out how tabs are closed on the webchat) [02:37] * gord gives MenZa a medal made out of chocolate and fruit [02:37] puttin' out fires everywhere tonight [02:39] I haven't had to deal with that in a while... [02:39] * MenZa pets gord [02:39] I try :) [02:41] I'm going to head to bed. Good night, MenZa, gord. [02:42] Night tritium [02:42] Night, tritium -- and thanks. [02:42] Night, nhandler. [02:42] * MenZa bow.s [02:42] Thank you too. [02:42] * tritium waves [02:43] In ubottu, marenostrum said: It is in repositories === nhandler is now known as Guest15323 [04:14] nhandler: Welcome back :) [04:21] Thanks. colloquy mobile insists on doing a /WHO on every channel upon joining causing an excess flood :( [04:25] irssi runs natively on OS X [04:27] nhandler: Really? Mine doesn't [04:27] nhandler: Colloquy Mobile for iPhone [04:28] nhandler: Are you connecting to irssi-proxy? [04:33] nhandler: Hello from Colloquy Mobile. [04:33] Works for #ubuntu as well, no crashes. Perhaps it's an option? [04:33] :) [04:42] MenZa and nalioth: It is colloquy mobile on my iPod connecting to znc. It is attempting to do a /WHO on around ~50 channels (many with a couple hundred people in them), which causes the flood [04:45] nhandler: I connect to my irssi-proxy. No /who here. [04:45] Try #colloquy? [04:46] MenZa: I tried #colloquy-mobile. They say it is a znc issue, the znc people say it is a colloquy issue. I guess I'll keep playing around with other options until I find a way to access my home IRC from my iPod [04:47] Hmm [04:48] nhandler: yes, i recognize the shoddy programming :( [04:57] congrats tsimpson, topyli, and nhandler [04:57] I'm going to bug you a lot now [04:57] * nhandler likes bugs ;) [05:02] i'm pretty sure Amaranth is an unfixable bug. [05:32] FireCrotch called the ops in #kubuntu (Alinae) [05:37] nixternal: they caught the train [05:41] whoo whoo, chugga chugga chugga chugga, choo choo [06:14] MenZa: thank you for last night [06:17] * tonyyarusso stifles giggles and bad jokes [06:18] topyli: shush [06:18] arg [06:19] I win [06:19] tonyyarusso: even [06:19] Myrtti: I --- er, what? [06:19] * MenZa is decidedly confused. [06:19] i'm on my n800 so limited typing [06:19] Maybe next time without the drugs MenZa ! [06:20] thanks for keeping an eye on the #u and mediation in here [06:20] Oh, right [06:20] Not at all [06:20] Just because I only have access in -ot doesn't mean I can't help out whereever it's needed :) [06:21] I was a bit scared I assumed responsibilities I didn't really have the, er, right to, but nhandler reassured me on that part. [06:22] if you know the situation best then it was good you did [06:22] ChanServ stops you from doing that - anything you can do you may, pretty much. [06:23] s/know/knew/ [06:23] tonyyarusso: At last I had tritium help me with the actual ban in #ubuntu, although that was by consensus [06:25] MenZa: itt jst might be that the hooliday season is temporarily making blank spots on the patrol "schedule" [06:25] * MenZa bulk adds entries to his blogroll, diff: +Jussi Schultink, Miia Ranta, Tony Yarusso [06:25] Myrtti: it could be, yeah [06:25] yeah...my schedule is all messed up [06:25] +Mackenzie Morgan [06:25] My parents are off work, so I actually have to get up before 2PM now, and sleep during nighttime. [06:26] tonyyarusso: Aw, shucks. [06:26] I hope we can get over them to January without messing up too bad [06:26] MenZa: does that mean I should start actually posting again? :P [06:26] tonyyarusso: Yes! [06:26] * MenZa only started blogging recently; is receiving more traffic than imagined. [06:26] MenZa: Planet Ubuntu raises traffic a ridiculous amount [06:26] tonyyarusso: It does [06:26] tonyyarusso: On my second day of having the blog open, 370 page views. [06:27] And that's not even counting the people who are reading the content without actually viewing your site. [06:27] Although that was probably because of the post I had there [06:27] * tonyyarusso needs to insert a 1x1 gif or something to see how many eyes actually see stuff [06:27] lol [06:27] 321GB and counting on my Ubuntu mirror - awesome. [06:27] (repos are done (280), now doing release images) [06:28] :D [06:28] tonyyarusso: Oh, also: http://blog.lassehavelund.com/2009/on-the-mathematics-of-pizza/#comments [06:28] Lovely comment there. <3 [06:29] MenZa has a secret admirerer! [06:29] Well, apparently she's not that secret. [06:30] well, we don't get to see whether you collected an e-mail address with that comment. [06:30] the neighbours found the belt sander again >___< [06:30] gnaaaaaaa [06:30] Well, she left one, but those are only there because WordPress requires one. [06:31] (of course I could deactivate that, but that's how blogs work, I guess) [06:31] KILL KILL [06:31] now they've got a drill too [06:31] ;__; [06:32] * MenZa hugs Myrtti [06:32] Poor thing :( [06:32] note to self: quilt isn't a good sound insulator [06:33] Myrtti: Music? [06:33] i'd have to get up! and look for my ear plugs [06:34] Well, you'll have to prioritise -- staying in a warm bed, or temporarily expose yourself to the cold of having to get up and get music on, killing the other issues that are bugging you? :3 [06:40] * MenZa giggles [06:40] Apparently, 'tsimpson' is a correct English word, according to TinyMCE. 'nhandler', however, isn't. [06:45] hi kids [06:46] Moooorning, Tm_T! [07:46] !love-#ubuntu-offtopic [07:46] is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come. [07:46] !no, love-#ubuntu-offtopic is Love is like racing across the frozen tundra on a snowmobile which flips over, trapping you underneath. At night, the ice-weasels come. [07:46] I'll remember that jussi01 [07:46] Matt Groening ♥ [07:46] !lovetoo-#ubuntu-offtopic [07:46] Love is a perky elf dancing a merry little jig, then suddenly he turns on you with a miniature machine gun. [07:48] *sigh* [07:49] good morning [07:49] hi dholbach [07:50] morning dholbach [07:50] * MenZa tips hat [07:50] hi bazhang, hi MenZa [07:51] ohai dholbach, you can haz coffeez or tea if you likes. *points to the kitchenette* [07:51] I just made a fresh batch of both [07:51] coffee for me for now, maybe I'll have some tea later on :) [07:51] thanks [07:51] also, cookies [07:51] Mmm, coffee. [07:51] 'tis still early. [07:51] have you even slept? [07:52] I got up at 1am [07:52] hehe [07:52] I've had a messed up sleeping schedule, as my e-mail to ubuntu-irc implied :) [07:52] you've got a screwed up sleep rhythm, my friend [07:52] yup [07:52] I can mail you a wooden mallet to use for knocking you out if you wish [07:53] Oh, I should be fine [07:53] I'll be keeping awake for the rest of the day. [07:53] School in half an hour, a meeting at 12:30, and then an optometrist's appointment later today. [07:53] (12:30 +0200) [07:54] * Myrtti crawls to the shower [07:54] Enjoy! :) [07:54] ooh, my back just popped, no need to crawl, I can actually walk now [07:54] --> [07:54] \o/* [08:04] elky nhandler, it's probably easier for you to "refrain from acknowledging". it's not your name up there as spoken by someone who had previously been freenode staff and on another council saying what an awful human you are and saying you broke everything. 02:24 [08:04] tsimpson Seeker`: differing views does not excuse some of the behaviour I've seen on the list 02:24 [08:04] elky it's taking all my energy right now to not go in to panic mode at the thought of the various trolls pits reading that. 02:24 [08:04] Seeker` tsimpson: no, it doesn't excuse it. But it may go some way towards explaining what may have triggered the behaviour 02:26 [08:04] elky Seeker`, it's a long story and this is a logged channel. 02:26 [08:04] elky I actually have a fair idea of what has happened. It's not something that can be discussed publicly. [08:09] what the devil was that ? [08:10] not sure; he logged in as sabdflp earlier then nicked to vorian and was klined [08:13] oh this is fun... [08:38] self-appointed bonehead dipstick for losing privileges? [08:41] mneptok: rule #1 don't feed the troll [08:41] now now mneptok, lets not go down that path. [08:46] i'm just trying to understand the acronym in context [08:46] padawan from the message in -ot [09:21] he crossposted to various lists BTW [09:25] s/folder/channel [09:25] did so earlier in #k-devel [09:37] who is "Net Demon"? [09:38] he's on offtopic now, but other than that... [09:38] wooly frog was vorian? [09:39] probably yes, if you look at the backlog [09:39] of ot [09:39] pleia2, ^ [10:04] elky: Forum staff, I *think*? [10:06] maybe no. I remember that name from elsewhere, though [10:06] surely he's not [10:09] OH GOD HELP. Now I've got Peanut Butter Jelly Time stuck in my head [10:10] peanut butter jelly time! [10:11] peeee nut buh tah jehleeeeee tiiiime [10:12] Myrtti: Wash it off with Case Comments Help Case Comments Help (New Window) [10:12] Fail. [10:12] Myrtti: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU2ftCitvyQ . [10:13] and if someone suggests playing Ice Cream Cake I'll scream [10:17] ice cream and cakey cake [10:48] Myrtti: It's okay, it could be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pRXGywEsdo instead. [12:18] In #ubuntu, amy_ said: ubottu: wine says it is compatible [12:56] Myrtti, would you prefer the llama song? [12:57] LOL [12:59] * Myrtti plays the hippopotamus song [12:59] badger badger badg... [12:59] if you haven't yet heard it: http://www.thesixtyone.com/ziahassan/song/IWantAHippopotamusForChristmasfeat.ZiasMom/7TkmLb6Fhyz/ [13:00] ok, now Im really off, talk to you all tomorrow [13:00] laters ! [13:04] arn-: hello ? [14:11] Good moring. [14:11] morning [14:12] Hi, ikonia. [15:22] om26er called the ops in #ubuntu (number_2) === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [17:10] Pricey, Pici: can one of you look at the -irc mailing list moderation queue please [17:12] there's email that has come to my inbox but isn't in lists.ubuntu... ???? [17:13] https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-irc/2009-December/000840.html and some weird ones... [17:13] meh [17:14] I just stamped my letter n with a golden fingerprint [17:14] jussi01: please see tsimpson's request above. My saved password for the list admin doesnt seem to be working. [17:14] (:) [17:18] nalioth: about? [18:26] LjL called the ops in #ubuntu (xig) [18:36] whee [18:37] indeedio [19:20] FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [19:21] FloodBot4 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [19:21] FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [19:21] FloodBotK2 called the ops in #kubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [19:21] FloodBotK1 called the ops in #kubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [19:21] FloodBotK3 called the ops in #kubuntu-ops-monitor (mass join) [19:22] humptydumpty === christel_ is now known as christel [19:57] *yawn* hippopotamuses [19:58] give a banannanananana to the hoppopopotamusses [20:32] !webmin [20:32] webmin is no longer supported in Debian and Ubuntu. It is not compatible with the way that Ubuntu packages handle configuration files, and is likely to cause unexpected issues with your system. See !ebox instead. [20:34] I propose to remove the last sentence from above factoid. I n my experience it is highly misleading as ebox was never intended to do what webmin does [20:35] whereas webmin work with the system config files (if it works :-)), ebox insists on using its own files - so "no way back" [21:14] guntbert called the ops in #ubuntu (Bobng_, joins with an url spam, attempt to launch something weird) [21:23] well, I'm off - night time :-)