[00:36] <Takyoji> If only I could find an option on Empathy to have it automatically spawn new conversation windows, rather than having to go to the buddy list to open a discussion (from which the other person started)
[00:46] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: It does, it just hides them.  Click the notification in the applet thingy.
[00:48] <Takyoji> And apparently those whom do the management of technology at our school are very apt...
[00:49] <Takyoji> The person was trying to install Moodle bundled with XAMPP on a Windows Server with IIS also running, but couldn't get it to work properly.
[00:50] <Takyoji> And figured out that IIS was bound to port 80, and wanted Apache also bound to port 80 as well...
[00:51] <Takyoji> But couldn't find out how after "two days of searching" (even though two daemons can't share the same inbound port...)
[00:51] <Takyoji> and thus blamed it all on Moodle
[00:52] <Takyoji> The person was trying to get IIS and Apache to listen to port 80, on the SAME server (no virtualization or anything like that).
[00:53] <Takyoji> The person also complained that they can't figure out how to install PHP; when even MS themselves have a convenient installer (which was found from a quick search engine query, without effort): http://www.microsoft.com/WEB/platform/phponwindows.aspx
[00:54] <Takyoji> I also suggested in the long term they could just have the server as Linux instead for example, and have all software installed through the package manager and so on. And pulls out the excuse of "well, there's all that maintenance and all that as well.."
[00:55] <tonyyarusso> what maintenance?  unattended-upgrades ftw!
[00:55] <tonyyarusso> Your school is fail.
[00:55] <tonyyarusso> You should write your congressmonkey.
[00:57] <Takyoji> and it was actually someone I considerably trusted; but after hearing them trying to get two different HTTP servers listen on the same port, that just killed all my faith in them...
[00:58] <Takyoji> as for the server itself, it previously hosted the district website (before they outsourced it to a different company), and thus currently just sits there hosting two very basic low-traffic static websites
[00:59] <Takyoji> and the suggestion is to have Moodle installed, considering there's even demand for it.
[01:01] <Takyoji> otherwise I wrote them the straightforward instructions on how to install Moodle on a Windows Server
[01:01] <Takyoji> pointing them to the installer for PHP, and the CORRECT files for Moodle (the one that isn't a software bundle of XAMPP), and so forth.
[01:02] <Takyoji> Just out of curiosity, what distro do any of you trust/favor for servers?
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> I just use Ubuntu for everything.
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> Second choice Debian.
[01:08] <tonyyarusso> apparently UPS delivers on Christmas Eve.
[01:09] <Takyoji> heh
[02:33] <Takyoji> another thing I don't understand about Empathy yet is that my accounts are always referred to being "New". Edit > Accounts. "New AIM account", "New Jabber account", "New Yahoo account"
[02:34] <Takyoji> I've had Empathy configured for those accounts for quite a bit now..
[02:34] <Takyoji> Weeks, months,
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: but you haven't renamed them :)
[03:08] <Takyoji> Well I blame it on Empathy then! :P
[03:15] <_diablo> Takyoji, try pidgin. It's nicer :)
[03:18] <Takyoji> That's what I had previously.
[03:18] <Takyoji> I'm just trying to bear with "mainstream"
[03:19] <Takyoji> to find any inconsistencies, or to be able to assist others that use it as well
[03:19] <Takyoji> Otherwise I'll rephrase a little further with additional details I was blabbing about earlier:
 Gah, I just can't get it out of my head of how much of a circus my school is
 A technologist that spends "2 days" (or perhaps 2 hours) to find a way to have both Apache and IIS bind to the same port on the same server, a district technology coordinator whom never replies to any of your emails, and a teacher that was previously a teacher for Cisco network certification that apparently whenever the last two people listed explain why something isn't working or "can't" work, she apparently alw
[03:20] <Takyoji> ays comprehends it as "THARS NOT ENOUF SPACE!" (also of whom is a somewhat big Firefox fan, but has no idea how to open a tab or what one is)
[03:25] <Takyoji> It's tormenting to know of various intricacies in technology and have to live with the above. I don't wanna be smart anymore, I want to be stupid! xP
[03:31] <_diablo> Takyoji, hahaha, that's so sad :(
[03:49] <Takyoji> It's kind of interesting how the ubuntu-devel mailing list is like a massive megaphone.
[03:50] <Takyoji> I sent one message a couple months ago, and now I look at search results for my username and find hundreds of websites that have an archive of the one message I wrote
[03:50] <Takyoji> Over 4000 results for my username
[03:54] <tonyyarusso> Takyoji: and now you understand why I have 39,000 results
[03:55] <tonyyarusso> and 50,000 for my real name
[03:55] <Takyoji> heh
[03:59] <Takyoji> Even with things you recently stated on Twitter on the first page of results for your username, and distinctly formatted. :P
[03:59] <Takyoji> http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=com.ubuntu%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&hs=POw&q=tonyyarusso&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> yup :)
[04:09] <Takyoji> What's the benefit to ReactOS?
[04:11] <tonyyarusso> Your question assumes that there is one.
[04:11] <Takyoji> I'm assuming it's of running Windows applications "natively" without any form of emulation
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> That's the idea, yes.
[04:14] <mr_steve> Hey all, how goes?
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> It's basically WINE transformed into a full OS.
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> mr_steve: slow.  Fussing with python.
[04:15] <mr_steve> ooh, I do a lot of that
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> really?
[04:15] <mr_steve> Not as much over the last couple weeks, but yeah, usually
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> Do you actually know what you're doing?
[04:15] <mr_steve> Heh, occasionally. I've only been coding in python seriously for almost a year
[04:20] <mr_steve> I'm actually working on a Google Voice client type app written with PyGTK, but it's been on hold for a while.
[04:28] <mr_steve> 'night
[04:31] <Takyoji> Ooo
[23:45] <Takyoji> Too bad the Linux client for Folding@Home doesn't utilize the GPU
[23:47] <kermit> too bad it doenst install properly to autostart at boot, too
[23:47] <kermit> the script runs, but for some reason it gets killed or sometihng
[23:48] <tonyyarusso> Too bad F@H isn't free software.
[23:50] <Takyoji> That as well; which would have most likely solved the issue of the lack of GPU support as well
[23:52] <Takyoji> otherwise use "origami" to install the client; it's what I used, and the Folding@Home client starts at boot