[00:02] <cwillu_clone> oooo, sound!
[00:02] <BUGabundo> crimsun: so now what?
[00:04] <crimsun> BUGabundo: I need an update, i.e., is sound audible?
[00:05] <BUGabundo> no
[00:05] <BUGabundo> I just enabled that line in conf you asked
[00:05] <BUGabundo> mib stuff
[00:05]  * BUGabundo checks paman
[00:05] <BUGabundo> crimsun: no sinks
[00:06] <crimsun> BUGabundo: just grep for codec in your dmesg
[00:06] <BUGabundo> $ dmesg | grep codec
[00:06] <BUGabundo> [   18.914663] hda_codec: cannot build controlsfor #0 (error -22)
[00:06] <BUGabundo> same stuff it always getts
[00:08] <crimsun> BUGabundo: ok, modinfo snd-hda-intel|grep ^file
[00:09] <BUGabundo> crimsun: filename:       /lib/modules/2.6.32-9-generic/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-intel.ko
[00:09] <crimsun> doesn't really look like an alsa bug at this point
[00:09] <BUGabundo> so why don't I have sound back?
[00:09] <crimsun> BUGabundo: aptitude download linux-image-$(uname -r)
[00:10] <BUGabundo> Get:1 http://neacm.fe.up.pt lucid/main linux-image-2.6.32-9-generic 2.6.32-9.13 [29.3MB]
[00:10] <crimsun> BUGabundo: then, sudo rm -rf /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/sound && sudo dpkg -i linux-image-$(uname -r)*.deb
[00:10] <BUGabundo> Fetched 29.3MB in 29s (996kB/s)
[00:14] <BUGabundo> crimsun: http://26yo.sl.pt
[00:15] <BUGabundo> crimsun: reboot ?
[00:16] <crimsun> BUGabundo: remove the enable_msi=0 addition, first
[00:16] <crimsun> BUGabundo: then reboot
[00:18] <BUGabundo> brb
[00:21] <BUGabundo> crimsun: FYI sound is back
[00:21] <BUGabundo> :P
[00:21]  * BUGabundo is happy
[00:21]  * BUGabundo goes to watch a movie, before BED
[00:28] <crimsun> huh
[00:28] <crimsun> well, that explains it
[00:28] <crimsun> the NID->Control mapping changes that Jaroslav did on the 8th broke it :(
[00:29] <crimsun> guess I'll do that kernel build after all
[00:29] <BUGabundo> crimsun: need a dmesg?
[00:32] <crimsun> BUGabundo: no
[00:33] <crimsun> I know where it broke, but it'll take me a bit to think of how to best fix
[00:33] <crimsun> (it's unrelated to my changes)
[00:33] <BUGabundo> fine by me
[00:34] <BUGabundo> as long as it doesn't breake more then it is now, im cool
[00:34] <BUGabundo> WFM
[02:02] <i_is_broke> hello all
[02:02] <i_is_broke> how is everyone tonight?
[02:13] <BluesKaj> ok, i_is_broke , how are you ?
[02:16] <i_is_broke> not to bad, tired, been working on rocking horses all day..lol
[02:16] <i_is_broke> just got my computer back up and running yeah...finally.
[02:39] <IdleOne> just ran an update and now I have " Package information database for rpm cleaned up... " why?
[02:40] <IdleOne> unless Ubuntu started using rpm all of a sudden
[02:40] <IdleOne> !info rpm
[02:40] <IdleOne> why did that just get installed?
[02:46] <IdleOne> now getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/345082/ when trying to install a package
[03:02] <bjsnider> IdleOne, yes, we've switched to rpms. didn't you get the memo?
[03:02] <IdleOne> I must of missed it
[03:04] <bjsnider> you see, we figure red hat uses them, so they must be good
[03:04] <bjsnider> that's our brilliant reasoning
[03:06] <IdleOne> makes complete sense
[03:06] <IdleOne> in the meantime I am not able to install any packages using apt
[03:07] <IdleOne> Synaptic works
[03:07] <IdleOne> heh go figure
[03:07]  * IdleOne needs to read memo's instead of making paper airplanes
[03:08] <RAOF> IdleOne: apt-get probably works, too.
[03:09] <IdleOne> I used aptitude install pastebinit and got http://paste.ubuntu.com/345082/
[03:10] <IdleOne> hmmm looking again it seems that it did install pastebinit, last line has a pastebin url
[03:10] <IdleOne> but I don't know what all that output means
[03:12] <IdleOne> nhandler: congrats on the nomination!
[03:12] <IdleOne> errr
[03:13] <IdleOne> see the output from the pastebin link is not the same as the one on my screen
[03:13] <IdleOne> very strange
[03:30] <IdleOne> RAOF: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/499665
[03:35] <IdleOne> nhandler: congrats on the nomination!
[04:36] <yoasif> anyone seeing that aptitude bug?
[04:36] <maco> where it crashes with some lovely stack smashing when you install random stuff?
[04:37] <yoasif> yeah
[04:37] <IdleOne> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/499665
[04:37] <IdleOne> there it is
[04:37] <maco> bug 499665
[04:37] <maco> yeah that
[04:37] <maco> IdleOne: grabbing #ubuntu-women scrollback too?
[04:37] <IdleOne> nope I posted it here also :P
[04:38] <maco> oh
[04:38] <maco> ooo hey that was you?
[04:38] <maco> i need to learn to read nicks :P
[04:38] <IdleOne> hahaha
[04:38] <IdleOne> yes that was me
[04:39] <IdleOne> yoasif: would be great if you click the " also affects me " link
[04:39] <IdleOne> try and get this fixed quick :)
[04:40] <IdleOne> or not
[08:54] <DanaG> http://www.slashgear.com/hp-probook-6445b-and-6545b-notebooks-elite-7000-desktop-break-cover-1259991/ -- interesting... wonder if that means it's ACPI 4.0.
[08:54] <DanaG> Power usage gauge on a desktop.
[09:31] <ActionParsnip1> yo yo yo
[09:33] <DanaG> yo yo ma
[09:34] <DanaG> yo ma ma
[09:34] <DanaG> one more: "ma ma ma"
[09:36] <ActionParsnip1> hehe, lucid is suprisingly super usable
[09:58] <wzssyqa> i occered x segment fault,what should i do ?
[09:59] <wzssyqa> report a bug ,and how?
[10:03] <Tscheesy> wzssyqa: launchpad.net is the Tool - but you need to be more specific than this
[10:04] <wzssyqa> Tscheesy: i just ask for that,and i know to use ubuntu-bug ,
[10:04] <wzssyqa> Tscheesy: what i ask is that ,anything more?
[10:06] <RAOF> Well, it'd be great if you could get a backtrace.
[10:07] <RAOF> And the wiki tends to have system-specific debugging tips.
[10:07] <wzssyqa> RAOF: backtrace?how to?
[10:08] <RAOF> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Debugging
[10:19] <i_is_broke> ok anyone else getting a stack dump doing safe-upgrade?
[10:33] <i_is_broke> ok whats going on with upgrade?
[10:42] <arand> i_is_broke: recent apt upgrade broke aptitude, apt-get still usable
[10:42] <melik> can anyone here help test a simple python script of mine/?
[10:46] <i_is_broke> arand, ah thank you yes its working.
[10:46] <arand> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/499631 seems to be fixed in recent aptitude upgrade i_is_broke
[10:47] <i_is_broke> cool
[10:47] <i_is_broke> i didnt do an upgrade yesterday, so im just catching up.
[10:50] <maxb> Anyone else running Lucid on an Acer Aspire One, and finding it won't boot to GDM with the current Lucid kernel?
[10:53] <i_is_broke> maxb, gdm is broke right now.
[10:53] <i_is_broke> it wont even load on my desktop.
[10:54] <i_is_broke> well it was broke i havent checked now.
[10:56] <maxb> Well, I may be a day out of date, but it works for me with the -8 kernel
[10:58] <maxb> But with -9, "init: gdm main process (x) terminated with status 1"
[10:59] <maxb> followed by a garbled display
[10:59] <maxb> and no gettys either :-/
[11:01] <BUGabundo_work> morning
[12:16] <maxb> It does not seem to be a great sign when wait-for-root manages to segfault :-/
[12:46] <maxb> aptitude dieing with a SIGABRT for anyone else?
[12:52] <maxb> Oh, update
[12:57] <sebsebseb> hi
[13:03] <BUGabundo_work> hey sebsebseb
[13:19] <sebsebseb> BUGabundo_work: hey
[13:28] <schmidtm_> hi, i found a dependecy prob for ubuntu-netbook. it still depends on ubuntu-netbook-remix-default-settings instead of ubuntu-netbook-default-settings
[13:37] <BUGabundo_work> schmidtm_: file a bug
[14:58] <Galvatron> Hi
[14:58] <Galvatron> I'm considering an upgrade from Kubuntu 9.04
[14:58] <Galvatron> How's the stability. especially with KDE SC 4.4 Beta 1?
[14:59] <stuq> strigi/nepomuk supposed to run yet in a 4.4 beta2 install from the repos?
[14:59] <Galvatron> My hardware is a bit ancient - Celeron Northwood 2,4Ghz, Epox P4X400D, Radeon 9200SE
[15:01] <stuq> I keep getting "Nepomuk Semantic Desktop needs the Virtuoso RDF server", but i'm not finding good info on how to fix the situation
[15:03] <stuq> Galvatron: try a LiveCD
[15:04] <bjsnider> Galvatron, if you're using fglrx now, you can forget it in lucid. you'll be using the radeon driver
[15:05] <Galvatron> Fglrx is an open driver?
[15:10] <genii> Konq seems to have an odd copy/paste issue.. ^C/^V work but right-click options on highlighted text are greyed out
[15:15] <BluesKaj> hey folks
[15:23] <BluesKaj> hey BUGabundo_work, chrisccoulson
[15:23] <chrisccoulson> hey BluesKaj
[15:24] <BluesKaj> I'm still trying to figure out why I have 2 consecutive login pages ...any ideas?
[15:25] <genii> BluesKaj: I'm also getting that, with kdm
[15:25] <BluesKaj> yup genii , I have it on both lucid machines
[15:26] <genii> BluesKaj: I suspect primary auth method in PAM fails, secondary kicks in
[15:27] <BluesKaj> ok, uhmm , heard of PAM , but what is it
[15:27] <BUGabundo_work> ola BluesKaj
[15:27] <genii> BluesKaj: Pluggable Authentication Modules/Method
[15:28]  * BluesKaj wiki's pam
[15:30] <BluesKaj> ok , that was more than I needed to know :)
[15:31] <BluesKaj> mancan these linux descriptions get "wordy"
[15:32] <BluesKaj> the technical nomenclature in linux almost approaches the BS I used to read in scientific newsletters we subscribed to at work
[15:32] <BluesKaj> :)
[15:36] <BluesKaj> well, maybe not so bad after reading it a second time :)
[15:36] <DanaG> interesting... this webcam even has computer-toggleable analog zoom.
[15:37] <DanaG> but... if I set it to 1280x960, colors get screwed up.
[15:37] <BUGabundo_work> analog?
[15:37] <DanaG> er, optical zoom.
[15:37] <DanaG> It has "regular" and "macro", as the Windows app calls them.
[15:38] <BUGabundo_work> its the first time i see DanaG complimenting something... usually he is just bitching around something... must be xtmas spirit
[15:40] <DanaG> heh, latest xkcd.com comic is awesome.
[15:42] <DanaG> weird... audio capture is not working.
[15:42] <DanaG> er, that's guvcview's fault, not ALSA's.
[15:43] <DanaG> hmm, are there any good kde webcam apps that give access to zoom controls, and all that jazz?
[15:43] <DanaG> "all that jazz" =þ
[15:49] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/qt4-x11/+bug/332495
[15:50] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/293213
[15:50] <DanaG> er
[15:50] <DanaG> yeah.
[15:56] <DanaG> yargh... does kde4.4b2 have any way to handle brightness keys?
[15:57] <maco> have we even packaged b2?
[15:57] <maco> i thought we just finished packaging b1 last week
[15:59] <Blues-Man> fn + F(7|8) ?
[16:00] <Blues-Man> i see i can't handle brightness if I remove CONFIG_SYSFS_DEPRECATED_V2 from kernel config
[16:00] <Blues-Man> i wonder why
[16:03] <DanaG> It's weird... it lets me "bind" the keys... yet doesn't actually grab them.
[16:04] <om26er_> !test
[16:04] <om26er_> ubottu, hello
[16:56] <douglasawh-work> turns out my dd/clonezilla issues were karmic issues, so we're having to go back to Jaunty
[16:57] <douglasawh-work> any ideas if grub2/whatever else is going on in the boot works better with dd in Lucid?
[16:58] <trimmer> I'm not sure what your issue was douglasawh-work, but Lucid is pretty nice. I only had 2 bugs to work out.
[16:58] <trimmer> an xorg.conf issue and a printing issue
[17:00] <douglasawh-work> trimmer: is the ATI/Xorg stuff fixed?
[17:00] <douglasawh-work> it's been literally unusable for me on the machine I've got
[17:01] <douglasawh-work> all of our laptops at work have ATI cards (rolls eyes) though I suppose actually the T400 has switchable graphics
[17:01] <douglasawh-work> trimmer: the issue I was having with karmic is the grub doesn't play nicely with dd
[17:02] <BUGabundo_work> !test
[17:02] <douglasawh-work> meaning, when you dd *if an image, when you dd *of it, the image is unbootable
[17:03] <douglasawh-work> speaking of when you use full disk encryption, specifically
[17:03] <douglasawh-work> I should probably file a bug, but I've got too many other things going on at work :(
[17:08] <trimmer> Yeah, the full disk encryption was a problem for me too.
[17:08] <trimmer> Specifically, the systemwould boot but nothing but black on all tty's
[17:09] <trimmer> I skipped over that
[17:10] <trimmer> No the ATI still has issues, fortunately,  I'm running nvidia
[17:11] <trimmer> bbiab
[18:46] <bjsnider> is jack restricted? i thought jack was FOSS
[19:48] <Galvatron> Hi
[19:49] <Galvatron> I took the risk of upgrading from Kubuntu 9.04 by using sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list and replacing "jaunty" with "lucid"
[19:49] <Galvatron> And I failed
[19:49] <Galvatron> After reboot it didn't mount partations
[19:50] <Galvatron> After loading bar with Kubuntu logo I got just: "mountall: Could not connect to Plymouth"
[19:51] <Galvatron> Of course I can't access recovery mode either due to the same issue
[19:52] <Galvatron> Can I do anything except format?
[19:52] <Galvatron> Now I'm riding from LiveCD 9.04 and backing things up
[19:52] <Galvatron> *reading
[19:52] <Galvatron> **writing
[20:16] <i_is_broke> Galvatron, that is how i went to lucid but thats also the day you was suppose to, been lots of updates and changes since then.
[20:17] <i_is_broke> ugh my tab completion isnt working..grrrrr.
[20:17] <i_is_broke> ok hold on ill be back...um you should of done a do-dist-upgrade
[20:18] <i_is_broke> now lets see if it works.
[20:18] <i_is_broke> hmmm wonder why my tab completion isnt working now..grr.
[22:23] <karmafraught> I see that people are having SIGABRT problems with aptitude. I was having similar problems, and I tried upgrading aptitude. This did not help.  The problem went away after I upgraded apt to the latest version.  Knowing this, should aptitude have a version= dependency on apt?
[22:41] <billybigrigger> howdy all
[23:08] <cbmuser> hey, anyone knows any plans for thunderbird 3.0?
[23:09] <cbmuser> it's in Fedora but lucid is still behind unfortunately
[23:10] <sebsebseb> cbmuser: Fedora tend to get stuff first
[23:12] <bjsnider> cbmuser, the easiest way to check is to look at what's upstream in debian right now
[23:12] <cbmuser> I wouldn't count on Debian for that ;)
[23:12] <jpds> cbmuser: There's a daily PPA.
[23:12] <cbmuser> and in Debian it's going to be icedove
[23:13] <cbmuser> jpds: I know, but that doesn't contain the stable release AFAIK
[23:13] <cbmuser> do you mean FTAs?
[23:13] <jpds> Yeah.
[23:14] <cbmuser> hey cool, I just realised that Lucid contains some of my plymouth-patches ;)
[23:14] <jpds> bug #314668
[23:17] <jpds> cbmuser: You could click "Affects me too" and subscribe to that bug report for updates. :)
[23:17] <cbmuser> I know
[23:18] <cbmuser> maybe I can collect some karma there :P