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tgpraveencould some one take a look at https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=59660114:53
ubottuGnome bug 596601 in general "Increase size of volume icon in fullscreen mode" [Normal,Needinfo]14:53
tgpraveenmac_v: ^^?14:53
darkmatteryes, please. give us all huge bloated icons that draw our attention to the panel when it needs to be elsewhere :)15:43
tgpraveendarkmatter: that bug is not about  the panel. and with other themes it looks ok. not bloated15:50
darkmatterahh... so stretching the icon to the size of the panel is a 'good' thing.. gotcha.15:52
mac_vtgpraveen: dont know...16:07
mac_vtgpraveen: i dont see how it is a theme problem either... its a 16px icon16:08
tgpraveentry with clearlooks theme16:08
tgpraveenit looks ok.16:08
mac_vtgpraveen: so its a gtk theme problem?16:08
darkmatterthats probably a hack in clearlooks to compensate for the crappy code revisions in na-tray16:09
darkmatterbecause the notification area is crap now16:09
mac_vtgpraveen: bleh... dump totem and use vlc ;)16:11
tgpraveenmac_v: I use vlc too as a backup. but still gotta love GNOMEish simplicity16:15
mac_vtgpraveen: hmm , odd... totem uses the larger icons when using gnome theme but for humanity it uses the 16px icon :/16:15
darkmattermac_v: and it *is* a tray issue regardless of dev excuses. there are plenty of apps that you can use to prove it. including some of the default gnome tray-huggers. I know, because I intentionally look for interface issues. and 3 icons taking up 100pixels of panel real estate on a 32 pixel panel *is* a gnome problem. not a theme problem16:16
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darkmatteras long as the index.theme has the directories/sizes defined and the symlinks in place it is not a theme issue16:16
_vishdarkmatter: we have all that right ... but totem is crazy :p16:17
darkmatteryes. yes it is16:17
darkmatter_vish: even more crazy is having to symlink app pixmaps for the tray because they pack sane sizes, but if you're 'in between' na-tray upscales to the next pixel size. have you ever seen an unscaled 48x78 icon on a 32 pixel panel? it ain't pretty :P16:20
darkmatter48x48*16:20
_vishhehe...16:21
_vishdarkmatter: well now that canonical is trying to fix the tray , it uses only 16px icons so i guess that it is kinda solved ;)16:21
darkmatterit's a gnome issue. I can reproduce it in the gnome theme by pulling out the 32x32 status icons and rebuilding the cache. scale 'down' my lovelies16:22
_vishbut it will *only* use 16px , so if the panel is larger too it will only be 16px icons ;)16:22
darkmatter_vish: ahhh.. my long standing dream that I've bitched about endlessly is coming topass?16:23
_vishdarkmatter: http://gould.cx/ted/blog/Having_a_tidy_systray16:23
darkmatter_vish: yes. it should be 16x16. no scaling up to fit the panel (I dun think anyone uses 120pix panels anymore. do they? ;o). that and please. 6 pix padding between them. split as clickable area between adjacent icons16:24
darkmatterbecaus e otherwise the icons are crammed, and wasting usable space is sinful16:25
_vishdarkmatter: yeah , actually in humanity all the tray icons are actually only 16px icons in 22/24px  ... all the padding is what make it more clean ;)16:26
tgpraveendarkmatter: then can you please reopen that bug with the relevant commetns as you seem to be better informed on this issue16:26
darkmatter:O padding! I guess canonical isn't as daft as I had thought :P16:26
_vishdarkmatter: ssshh... not many know we cheated on those icons... ;)16:27
_vishdarkmatter: but good that canonical is actually fixing the notifcation area16:27
darkmatterhehe16:27
darkmatter_vish: agreed16:27
darkmatter_vish: I hack the crap out of icons and .desktop files to make a reasonable impression. it's a pain in the butt. all for a consistent freakin tray. it'll be nice to be able to avoid such evils in the future16:29
darkmatterbecause any patch that feeds my laziness I'M TAKING AND YOU CANT STOP ME! xD16:31
_vishdarkmatter: yeah , by Lucid +1 off with notification area :D > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/ApplicationIndicators16:33
darkmatteryay! I'm stealing them for my geeko! \o/16:34
=== _vish is now known as \vish
nigel_nbhi, any of the artwork team around? I'm looking for some help :)18:20
nigel_nbafter the UDS-L, there is a plan to have Ubuntu User Days with topics aimed towards users (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDaysTeam).  Can anyone from the artwork team help us with a logo?18:21
thorwilhi nigel_nb18:30
nigel_nbhi thorwil :)18:30
thorwilnigel_nb: these last days of the year are likely not a good time to ask for something like that18:31
nigel_nbthorwil: ohhh18:31
thorwilnigel_nb: but now or later, i suggest you bring it up on the art mailing list18:31
nigel_nbthorwil: will do, thanks :)18:31
thorwilyou can reach many more people that way18:32
thorwilnigel_nb: np18:32
nigel_nbdo I need to join before I post?18:33
thorwilnigel_nb: i think yes. you should for questions, anyway18:33
thorwilnigel_nb: the list is rather low volume18:34
nigel_nbjoined already, a few 100 mails a day dont make much difference anyway18:34
nigel_nbafter bug squad, I'm game for anything18:34
nigel_nb;)18:34
thorwilheh18:34
thorwilouch ouch!  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuFreeCultureShowcase?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=UbuntuFreeCultureShowcaseLogo_white_100.png19:17
kwwiiouch indeed23:16

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