=== swoody_ is now known as swoody === issyl0 is now known as icepick === icepick is now known as issyl0 [13:07] nigel_nb: ping [13:08] mornin [13:39] cjohnston: I take it we're extending the day? :) [13:39] Yup. [13:40] The guy I just put at 0100 originally agreed to 2300.. he said it was 0400... [13:40] my response was eeeeewwwwwwwww [13:42] ah [13:42] I still have two who haven't given me classes [13:43] * pleia2 nods [13:43] How you doin? [14:28] turns out I'm having a busy morning at work :) [14:30] you? [14:30] (and why the nick change?) [14:39] cjohnston: can we please use the ubuntu-classroom or ubuntu-learning mailing list? [14:39] I really really REALLY don't think we need another [14:39] this is what -classroom is for :) [14:40] and this new team should be owned by the classroom team [14:40] (I can handle that though) [14:42] ok [14:43] my thinking was though so that we could email all the instructors.. if they arent all on classroom or learning lists [14:44] they should be :) [14:44] making a mailing list for every group we need to email is kinda insane [14:44] understand.. [14:49] pleia2: which one do you want to use, and I will add a link to it on the page asking people to join it? (and do you have the link?) [14:49] I think we should keep using ubuntu-learning [14:50] I've been talking to jorge about phasing out the -classroom list [14:50] (since no one uses it) [14:50] ok [14:50] ubuntu-learning is where we've had discussions thus far :) [14:50] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-learning [14:50] just found it.. hehe [14:55] oh, launchpad supports the ability to email everyone in the team w/o a mailing list [14:55] you just don't set a contact [14:55] can you delete the lists you created? it'll be confusing if people try to join them [14:56] I hit delete I believe.. [14:56] I guess its waiting on the system [14:56] ok cool :) [14:57] Are the groups setup properly best you can tell? [14:58] yeah, that seems right [14:58] and I added you as an admin on classroom mgmt [14:58] ty [14:59] as admin or just member? [14:59] i dont really think it matters.. [14:59] sorry, member [14:59] no, doesn't matter really [15:00] :-) [15:00] it's a "management" team so only folks organizing things there are members anyway [15:00] right [15:01] did you see I made a team for instructors? [15:01] yep :) [15:01] I guess i would need to add you three onto that also to have admin? [15:02] yeah, if you want us to be able to approve new people [15:02] ok [15:02] I think :) [15:02] lemme see.. [15:02] I'm trying to make the -team owner of the -instructors.. [15:03] but doesnt seem to be working [15:04] ok, if you make the -team an administrator on -instructors it should work [15:04] ok [15:04] so that members on the team become admins automagically [15:05] it wont let me add -team as a member [15:07] you are admin on -inst [15:07] maybe you can figure it out [15:07] oh, you created a project, not a team [15:07] maybe? [15:07] https://edge.launchpad.net/~user-days-instructors is a team [15:07] isnt it [15:08] fergot about the coffee i made.. rbbr [15:08] brb too [15:09] we probably should have planned this out first :) [15:10] I think -team should be an administrative member of -instructors [15:10] right [15:10] I thought I had it figured out.. maybe not [15:11] https://edge.launchpad.net/~user-days-instructors/+members [15:11] ran into things that didnt do what I thought would do [15:11] add Ubuntu User Days Team as an administrator [15:12] then Ubuntu User Days Team people will be admins of instructors automagically [15:12] ok.. done [15:12] there we go :) [15:12] So I did it backwards? [15:13] yeah [15:13] :-x [15:13] Good thing I know someone smart [15:13] lol [15:14] launchpad is confusing, I just looked at how other teams do this :) [15:14] now -team says its a subteam of instructors.. [15:14] anyway, back to work for me, thanks for getting this rolling [15:14] yup [15:14] * popey has only just discovered https://edge.launchpad.net/doctemplate [15:14] which is super cool [15:14] mornin popey [15:14] o/ [15:15] oh, maybe -team needs to be the owner [15:15] to avoid that [15:16] actually [15:16] ok.. owner finally worked [15:16] uh oh [15:16] communitycouncil is listed as a subteam of all kinds of things too [15:16] and they aren't actually [15:16] * pleia2 shrugs [15:16] lp is confusing :) [15:16] I think this is fine [15:16] lmao [15:16] What is protocol.. add the people who are instructors or let them add themselves? [15:17] maybe moderated approvals? [15:17] it is moderated [15:17] people apply, we say "neat, what do you want to teach?" [15:17] then add them if they say something good [15:17] hehe [15:17] right.. im talkin about those who are already signed up to teach tho [15:17] oh [15:18] yeah, we should invite them to join the team [15:18] invite meaning? via wiki or via lp by adding them? [15:18] sorry.. dont know if there is a right or a wrong and dont want to do wrong [15:18] <_marx_> mailing list [15:18] lp adding [15:18] and make people mad [15:18] ok [15:18] hey _marx_ [15:18] they have to approve being added anyway :) [15:18] <_marx_> hey [15:18] oh they do? ok [15:18] wait, they don't [15:19] how goes _marx_ [15:19] * cjohnston confused [15:19] <_marx_> cold [15:19] I need to get back to work :( [15:19] its 64*! [15:19] ok pleia2 [15:19] <_marx_> 35 here [15:19] I'd send an email out to everyone asking them to join the ubuntu-learning mailing list and lp team [15:19] er, instructors lp team :) [15:20] now I have to collect email addresses :-P [15:20] hehehe [15:20] _marx_: NC right? [15:20] need them anyway to remind them they applied for a spot that day ;) [15:20] <_marx_> cjohnston: yep [15:20] hey my post made it onto planet finally [15:20] heh [15:21] _marx_: my dad got some pictured from the mountain they are on.. i think he said 1 ft snow [15:21] since they are down here for the holidays [15:21] <_marx_> yeah they had a bunch up in the mountains we only had 7" here [15:24] mornin Pendulum [15:24] Anyone know who nagendra is? [15:24] hi cjohnston [15:26] Ubuntu User Days got mentioned on UUPC :) [15:26] nigel_nb: ping [15:26] uupc? [15:27] ubuntu uk podcast :) [15:27] cool [15:28] Pendulum: how does the woman stuff? (I don't mean woman stuff like "woman stuff") [15:32] ? [15:33] ubuntu-women [15:33] Heh [15:33] looks like issyl0 got the joke [15:33] hehe [15:33] I did. [15:33] :P [15:33] ahem [15:34] ? [15:34] No worries :) [15:35] sorry, work stuff is being weird [15:36] np [15:36] (my jewish boss was unwrapping a package from a customer that was a Bible... we're not sure if it's something that's reference for something we're doing from them or not) [15:37] uummmm [15:37] lol [15:38] <_marx_> yep that qualifies as weird [15:40] well it's a christian company (i don't know if they know she's jewish or not, probably not tbh) [15:40] but no explanation, etc., just the book [15:50] email for all.. hehe [15:58] cjohnston: got sick of the questions about your IRC nick? :P [15:59] Pendulum: I think so, he stopped answering (I asked him this morning why the change ;)) [15:59] no response! [15:59] Pendulum: not yet [15:59] haha [15:59] you did? i missed it [15:59] I meant, is that why you changed? [15:59] o [15:59] lol [15:59] well.. its old.. [15:59] It should now be ENGPMcJ [16:00] heh [16:00] and then in a year ENGPMRNcJ [16:00] lol [16:00] (and, yes, I managed to decode that) [16:00] and maybe one day ENGPMCRNALCPIcJ or something [16:00] heh [16:01] since it was basically all the letters after my name, just infront of my name [16:03] at that point it might as well have been ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWZYZcJ ;) [16:04] hehehe [16:40] Who is indigo again? [16:44] mornin cprofitt [16:44] morning cjohnston [17:08] Pendulum: you still around? [17:09] or _marx_ [17:09] I am here... any assistance I can render? [17:10] cjohnston: what's up? [17:10] cprofitt: i need one of them to test something for me.. [17:10] Pendulum: https://edge.launchpad.net/~user-days-instructors [17:10] does launchpad allow you to approve paul? [17:10] cprofitt: did you get my email? [17:10] I believe I did... and responded. [17:10] are you indigo? [17:11] yes [17:11] it looks like it should, shall I go ahead and do so? [17:11] yes please [17:11] Pendulum: I just wanted to make sure it was setup right [17:11] cprofitt: ok.. forgot who indigo was [17:11] hehe [17:11] indigo196 is the name I used when I was trying to obsfucate my real name... [17:11] do you want me to approve cprofitt as well or wait for you to test _marx_ ? ;) [17:12] I was invovled with a SS investigation [17:12] if you can do it he can do it [17:12] thats right [17:12] hehe [17:12] i knew I knew who it was, just wasnt able to put irc together with email [17:12] heh [17:12] cool. [17:12] I need to sign my messages... [17:12] Evolution does NOT use aliases propoerly IMHO [17:12] I need to create a signature [17:13] instead of responding via the email it was sent to it defaults to the default email account. [17:13] which sucks [17:13] gmail allows me to change it from my default to my ubuntu [17:14] thank you Pendulum [17:14] just wanted to make sure it worked [17:14] Evolution in the previous version just used the alias or email that it had received the email on [17:14] ic [17:14] probably some minor setting to adjust [17:14] http://www.lugor.org/joomla_www/ [17:14] I havent been able to teach myself to like evolution [17:14] I have been playing with that recently though [17:15] getting my LUG moved over to something a bit easier. [17:15] http://lugor.org/ [17:15] that is the old one... [17:16] cprofitt: your class I want to move earlier, not later :-P [17:18] * cjohnston gonna go eat lunch.. or figure out what to eat for lunch.. [17:18] bbiab [17:20] cprofitt: how are the kiddos? :) [17:33] * nigel_nb yawns and waves [17:33] cjohnston: you called? [17:35] hello pleia2, cprofitt, and Pendulum :) [17:35] nigel_nb: any thoughts on the logo? [17:35] nigel_nb: I think he then went off for food so not sure he's here [17:35] our schedule is pretty full, I'm thinking we need to start promoting soon! :) [17:35] my alarm kept ringing for like 2 hours, just got up [17:36] pleia2: we were mentioned on the last UUPC :) [17:36] pleia2: gimme time till tonight, I'll try to get something done 2morrow morning [17:37] was busy with office party and stuff [17:37] Pendulum: I saw, that's great :) [17:37] nigel_nb: no rush :) I just wanted to ask [17:38] pleia2: I wouldn't have been busy, but I was the guy taking pictures so took hours to process and upload them [17:38] hehe [17:38] I know how that goes :) [17:39] its crazy [17:39] I clicked 300 photos on each day [17:39] and there were 2 other cameras which I have to manage 2morrow [17:39] close to 1000 I guess [17:41] Pendulum: I'm going to need a favor from you [17:42] nigel_nb: do you know nagendra? [17:42] cjohnston: yep [17:42] mailed him today and he's confirmed that he'll take the session [17:42] you want his email id? [17:43] he doesnt have a wiki page, so I couldnt contact him to send him the eMail I sent out today [17:44] I'll give u his email [17:44] ok [17:45] nigel_nb: what's up? [17:46] Pendulum: remember the screencasts [17:46] yes [17:46] can voice over for one more [17:46] sure [17:46] i mean, i only have one right now [17:46] maco is kinda busy [17:47] as long as it doesn't need to be done tonight, i can do it [17:47] (tonight I go up to my parents' so will be on a train for hours :) ) [17:47] after christmas [17:49] yep [17:50] Pendulum: I'm hoping that we can get it ready before new year though, possible? [17:50] today's my last day of work until the new year so once the immediately family stuff is done, I shouldn't have a problem :) [17:51] lucky you [17:51] its 11:21 pm, I'm i hour late for work [17:51] my boss still wants me in [17:51] which means I'll get to work at around 12 am [17:51] and I'm having a bad headache :( [17:52] aww :( [17:53] We need to work on a design for the wiki page [17:53] pleia2: I envy you! You get to work from home, that would have been so awesome [17:54] nigel_nb: yeah, but I don't really get time off for the holidays [17:54] pleia2: me neither [17:54] cjohnston: nigel_nb is working on a logo [17:54] ya [17:54] pleia2: I go to church directly from work with ID and all the works [17:55] * nigel_nb just made a deal with his boss [17:55] I'm going in the morning at 5:30 a.m. instead of night [17:55] cjohnston: how bad is this http://www.flickr.com/photos/nigelbabu/4197256675/ [17:56] pleia2: will elky be free enough to make one for us? I know she's nifty with gimp [17:56] nigel_nb: better than I can do [17:57] it not a logo, its just text [17:57] we need a picture to go with it [17:58] rebooting into winders.. [17:58] * cjohnston feels dirty [17:58] cjohnston: why? [17:58] winders [18:00] no, i mean why are you booting into it [18:00] sync iphone [18:01] ah [18:10] cjohnston: hw many more people to give us topics? [18:11] 2 i believe [18:11] hellow said ask again next week [18:12] and nhandler_ ? [18:14] havent talked to him [18:14] cjohnston: we could ask him to take something to with IRC probably [18:14] thats a good idea [18:14] how to behave on IRC or something like that [18:14] nhandler: ping [18:15] cjohnston: I pinged him here :P [18:15] nigel_nb: That would work [18:15] lol [18:15] haha [18:15] thats why i pinged here [18:15] nigel_nb: It doesn't really matter where you ping. I see them all ;) [18:15] nhandler: nhandler cou couldnt do 2300utc could you? [18:16] nhandler: the omnipotent [18:16] cjohnston: What day of the week is this again? [18:16] is there a prize for giving inspiration for the most topics (right now my count is 2) [18:16] saturday [18:16] Why isn't it on the Fridge? [18:17] no fridge access [18:17] And yes, 23:00 should work [18:17] heh [18:17] we are trying to secure the schedule.. we talked earler about starting to promote it [18:17] cjohnston: Anyone can add stuff to the fridge calendar: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fridge/Calendar [18:17] hmm [18:17] nhandler: the schedule is still tentative [18:17] isn't it better until we fixed it permanent and then put it up [18:18] nigel_nb: Yes, but just say Ubuntu User Day Jan X from Y-Z UTC [18:18] nhandler: even that is somewhat tentative, if we get more people, we'll extend [18:19] adding now [18:19] ah, good :) [18:19] oh no, I need to get the logo ready then [18:21] cjohnston: I give up, I'm gonna see if any of the art team can help [18:21] sounds good [18:23] no response [18:23] nhandler: how long does it take to appear on fridge? [18:24] issyl0: I see that you guys had fun at the meet up :) [18:24] cjohnston: It is there [18:25] s/guys/guys and gals ;) [18:25] me no see [18:26] :) [18:32] cjohnston: okay, the artwork team says "nigel_nb: these last days of the year are likely not a good time to ask for something like that" [18:32] :-( [18:38] doctormo: how free are you before jan 1? [18:38] doctormo: and hello :) [18:39] nigel_nb: Most days are free, and namaste [18:39] doctormo: will you have time to make a logo for the ubuntu user days? [18:40] possible, what kind of logo do you guys need/ [18:40] ? [18:40] something to highlight the usr [18:40] cjohnston: thoughts ^ [18:42] nigel_nb: It's very important to get the requirements for the logo, the feel, the ideas and concepts etc. [18:43] okay, I'll try [18:44] we need whoever to feel that it is about teaching [18:44] about helping new users [18:44] people who are lost and need a sense of direction with ubuntu [18:44] something to highlight that its going to be about using ubuntu (rather than contributing) [18:45] pleia2, Pendulum, and cjohnston: I cud use some help here [18:46] But it's an event logo, rather than the project branding for the learning group sections. [18:46] So it's got to be a little more exciting, doesn't have to be as descriptive, just nice. [18:46] its like the ubuntu open week [18:46] the event will be repeated [18:50] doctormo: yeah, it's an event (although hopefully will be a repeated one), aimed at new users [18:51] specifically aimed at home-users (not business although there's been discussion that maybe some day we'll do one for businesses) [18:56] thanks Pendulum, I was running out of description [18:59] doctormo: what else do you need to know? [19:33] nigel_nb: im not good at stuff like that [19:33] heh [19:33] not artistic at all [19:34] cjohnston: I hope the doc got enough ideas from me and Pendulum [19:34] where's lyz anyway, haven't seen her response [19:34] heh [19:34] shes workin [19:37] at the car shop actually, my poor car [19:37] * nigel_nb is shocked [19:38] u can respond from the carshop? [19:38] passenger side window fell off track while i was out grabbing lunch [19:38] 3;3ouch [19:38] oops, thats bad [19:38] i am on my phone [19:38] irssi? [19:38] yeah, this is going to be expensive [19:38] nigel_nb: yeah [19:38] * cjohnston wants to figure out how to make irssi a proxy [19:39] all you geeks :P [19:39] uh huh [19:39] and? [19:39] pleia2: you're taking the car with you? [19:39] to CA [19:40] nigel_nb: nope [19:41] pleia2: so its not worth the trouble either. [19:41] get a motorbike and some warm clothes :P [19:41] hah, no [19:43] ;) try it Ca though, faster to rush through traffic..haha [19:44] me ex-husband was in chronic pain from a bike accident when he was young [19:45] has a fake hip [19:45] so, yeah, no thanks :) [19:45] pleia2: far too scared [19:45] its time i took a photo of my bike and put it up === cjohnston is now known as FFEMTcJ === FFEMTcJ is now known as cjohnston [20:30] nigel_nb: can you send me the link for that other screencast? (either now or tomorrow) [20:32] Pendulum: will do [20:32] lemme hunt my logs for them [20:34] Pendulum: which one did I give you earlier? IRC with web or pidgin? [20:35] web [20:36] Pendulum: http://rapidshare.com/files/318258862/IRCwithPidgin.mpeg [20:37] ok, will grab it later [20:37] thanks :) [20:37] Pendulum: if u cant download it lemme know [20:39] I need to go pick up the kiddies.. bbl [20:39]