| ari-tczew | do I need to did requestsync with option -s because I'm not in MOTU, right? | 00:04 |
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| geser | yes | 00:06 |
| ari-tczew | I got error:E: Did not retrieve any changelog entries. Was the package recently uploaded? (check http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/) | 00:06 |
| geser | package name? | 00:06 |
| ari-tczew | everything should be OK | 00:06 |
| ari-tczew | dosbox | 00:06 |
| geser | hmm, works here | 00:12 |
| ari-tczew | :/ | 00:13 |
| ari-tczew | still don't like requestsync ;-] | 00:13 |
| crimsun | beats opening a web browser and filling out a bug report anyday | 00:13 |
| geser | does it happen again (i.e. was no transient network error)? | 00:13 |
| Quintasan | YokoZar: Do you mind reviewing http://dl.dropbox.com/u/69524/q4wine_0.114-r1-0ubuntu1.debian.tar.gz? I'm trying to close https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/360942 | 00:14 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 360942 in ubuntu "[needs packaging] Q4wine - binary" [Wishlist,New] | 00:14 |
| ari-tczew | 64 bytes from rore.debian.org (128.31.0.49): icmp_seq=1 ttl=42 time=142 ms | 00:14 |
| ScottK | ari-tczew: Most of requestsync's problems are due to poor data sources. | 00:14 |
| ScottK | Quintasan: You should also upload it to REVU. | 00:15 |
| ari-tczew | ScottK: how your answer fixing my problem? | 00:15 |
| Quintasan | ScottK: I hoped to avoid this since revu still doesn't accept source format 3.0 :P | 00:16 |
| ScottK | OK | 00:17 |
| ScottK | That's a reasonable reason not to use it. | 00:18 |
| ScottK | ari-tczew: I'm pointing you in the direction of where your actual problem is. | 00:18 |
| ari-tczew | ScottK, so what's I need to do ? | 00:18 |
| ari-tczew | file a bug with sync on LP? | 00:19 |
| ScottK | ari-tczew: I don't know. | 00:19 |
| ari-tczew | rofl, first use of requestsync and fail, sucks | 00:19 |
| ScottK | ari-tczew: About how I feel about using bzr for merging. | 00:29 |
| ari-tczew | instead debdiff? | 00:31 |
| geser | yes, it's the new "fashion" for doing merges (once you figured out how it works and you picked a package for which it works flawlessly) | 00:32 |
| ari-tczew | hmmm maybe I should to learn about this | 00:33 |
| geser | btw: is there some documentation somewhere how to process merge proposals? | 00:34 |
| ari-tczew | this is good reason to learning this on security updates SRU | 00:34 |
| ScottK | ari-tczew: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DistributedDevelopment/Documentation | 00:39 |
| ari-tczew | maybe in february, because I'm very busy by important project before end of march | 00:42 |
| ari-tczew | IMO merges.ubuntu.com needs refresh/update, because there are infomation of packages which were merged/synced | 00:56 |
| ScottK | ari-tczew: m.u.c has been disabled. | 01:01 |
| ScottK | ari-tczew: Use the list in /topic | 01:01 |
| ari-tczew | ScottK: forever? | 01:02 |
| ScottK | ari-tczew: Unless a maintainer appears. | 01:03 |
| ari-tczew | there is no comment area in database :-/ | 01:03 |
| ScottK | ari-tczew: Considering lucas put that together in his free time today after it became clear MoM was dead, it is pretty amazing IMO. | 01:04 |
| ari-tczew | This script needs some work, e.g. split components | 01:05 |
| ScottK | ari-tczew: Feel free to join #ubuntuwire and offer your help. | 01:05 |
| ScottK | (it's done in Ruby, fwiw) | 01:05 |
| ari-tczew | hehe ScottK I'd like to help in development udd.debian, but I don't have free time :( | 01:06 |
| ScottK | OK, then be gentle about 'requirements' for it. It's really a gift to us. | 01:06 |
| ari-tczew | of course | 01:07 |
| ari-tczew | btw. why MoM is dead? | 01:07 |
| RoAkSoAx | ari-tczew, AFAIK is because of the Debian Source Format 3.0 since it has broken things and because of that, the list won't update | 01:08 |
| ari-tczew | ah these changes reasoned by 3.0 source format... ;-) | 01:09 |
| ari-tczew | ScottK: what do you think about set redirect from MoM to udd.debian ? | 01:10 |
| ScottK | ari-tczew: No, these changes reasoned by the former maintainer having no time and no one appearing to take over. | 01:11 |
| ScottK | ari-tczew: I think it'd be better to have m.u.c replaced by a page that points to that list and explains how to find all the merge using bzr documentaiton. | 01:11 |
| ScottK | That page is generated from the merge-o-matic source, but I don't see where. | 01:12 |
| ari-tczew | requestsync works \o/ | 01:39 |
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| ari-tczew | how can I add bug on new system http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/merges.cgi ? | 02:27 |
| ari-tczew | huh? MoM has been updated! | 02:53 |
| jmarsden | ScottK: Does "a page that points to that list and explains how to find all the merge using bzr documentaiton" exist somewhere? Or even just a detailed example of the new bzr way to do merges? Where is the current (documentation) starting point for a newcomer to merging? | 03:13 |
| ScottK | jmarsden: I just sent mail to ubuntu-devel saying I give on merges until I can find time to figure out how this all works. I'm probably not your best source. | 03:14 |
| jmarsden | ah... OK. I've never done a merge and was planning to do a few this cycle... but it seems like everything is in flux *way* more than usual. | 03:15 |
| ScottK | jmarsden: If you mean cancelling the old way of doing something before the new way is fully functional or documented or people have time to transition, I agree. | 03:17 |
| jmarsden | OK. I'll read the ubuntu-devel archive and see if I can make sense of things a bit better that way :) | 03:18 |
| ari-tczew | which architecture will not support in lucid? | 03:20 |
| ari-tczew | lpia ? | 03:20 |
| ScottK | No lpia and no hppa (it was not in Karmic either( | 03:36 |
| fabrice_sp | porthose_, ping | 05:56 |
| fabrice_sp | I just wanted to check with you if you know of any transition because of soname bump in libcsfml and libsfml | 06:10 |
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| porthose_ | fabrice_sp, pong not that I'm aware of | 07:37 |
| * daurnimator pokes jbernard | 07:42 | |
| daurnimator | I'm confused about the status of this package: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/396287 | 07:42 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 396287 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] liblua5.1-iconv" [Wishlist,New] | 07:42 |
| fabrice_sp | porthose_, can you just check rdepends on them? | 07:45 |
| fabrice_sp | just to be sure | 07:45 |
| porthose_ | fabrice_sp, sure (when the wife gets through using the lappy) | 07:46 |
| dholbach | good morning | 07:48 |
| Dday | after moving from ubuntu 9.04-9.10 my sound no longer works, does anyone know what i should do? | 07:51 |
| micahg | Dday: check in #ubuntu for help with your sound settings | 07:54 |
| Dday | i'm trying micahg, spoken to quite a few people but they aren't really sure what hte issue is | 07:55 |
| micahg | Dday: you can file a support request here: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu | 07:56 |
| micahg | Dday: you can also check out this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems | 07:57 |
| Dday | okay thanks | 07:57 |
| fabrice_sp | good morning dholbach ! | 08:02 |
| dholbach | hiya fabrice_sp | 08:02 |
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| Quintasan | good morning | 10:01 |
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| tommytomtom | I have just uploaded my package "lazy8ledger" to revu.ubuntuwire.com . I am a little uncertain as to what is the next thing I must do. I have read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages but from reading that it seems now I just wait. Is that my next step??? | 11:30 |
| tommytomtom | hmm. ok. now I have read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing and it says to come here and announce myself...Ok. One thing I may have missed is the "needs packageing" bug report. Is that necessary? | 11:34 |
| slytherin | tommytomtom: not necessary but encouraged to avoid duplicate efforts. | 11:43 |
| tommytomtom | slytherin: I searched the bug reports and nobody is on it. I am the developer of this software.. | 11:44 |
| slytherin | tommytomtom: so file a bug so that if anyone comes looking foe it they will know you are working on it. | 11:44 |
| tommytomtom | slytherin: So is the goal here to motivate a MOTU team member to test my software? | 11:44 |
| tommytomtom | slytherin: Ok. I'll do it... | 11:45 |
| slytherin | tommytomtom: when you upload the package to revu, MOTU team members will comment on it and when the packaging is of good quality it will be sponsored. | 11:47 |
| tommytomtom | slytherin: ok. So it ia | 11:48 |
| tommytomtom | slytherin: ok so it is automatic. I just sit back and wait for comments? | 11:49 |
| slytherin | yes | 11:49 |
| ankit_babbar | hello all | 12:39 |
| ankit_babbar | i have been using ubuntu, since a year.. | 12:40 |
| ankit_babbar | I wish to help in development and have team in college to work with | 12:41 |
| ankit_babbar | can you help me where to start | 12:41 |
| slytherin | ankit_babbar: Did you read the links provided in channel topic? | 12:41 |
| ankit_babbar | can some1 guide me for little start i am confused? | 13:07 |
| maxb | ankit_babbar: A start in what? | 13:19 |
| ankit_babbar | for starting up in development .... | 13:20 |
| persia | ankit_babbar: What kind of development? Package maintenance, or new application development? | 13:22 |
| ankit_babbar | Package maintenance | 13:23 |
| persia | OK. So do you need help finding something to do, or help doing something you've found? | 13:24 |
| ankit_babbar | finding something | 13:24 |
| persia | OK. Are there any specific applications that interest you, or types of applications? | 13:25 |
| persia | Alternately, are there any types of issues with applications that you like to hunt down and solve? | 13:27 |
| ankit_babbar | no | 13:27 |
| ankit_babbar | i know c, shell scripting, java,php | 13:27 |
| persia | OK. Are you having any issues with your Ubuntu installation, or is there something it doesn't do that you want it to do? | 13:28 |
| ankit_babbar | yes well i do have a problem with OpenLDAP that i am integrating in my college for the first time | 13:29 |
| persia | Excellent! The most important thing to help is to have a source of motivation :) | 13:29 |
| persia | In that case, I'd recommend grabbing the OpenLDAP source, and trying to fix those issues. | 13:29 |
| persia | You may find some others who have worked on OpenLDAP in the past in #ubuntu-server | 13:30 |
| persia | And if you have questions about packaging, or packaging formats, or how to do things, we're always happy to help. | 13:30 |
| persia | As long as you're working on it, you might want to see if you can fix some of the other bugs listed at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openldap/+bugs | 13:31 |
| ankit_babbar | kk, do you bileve i should jump straight to LDAP, shouldn't have experience on small projects | 13:32 |
| persia | If you really want, but I believe that the best way to get involved is to fix something that is both interesting to you and helps you enjoy Ubuntu better. | 13:32 |
| persia | That way you can learn the tools and processes whilst working on something that you care about. | 13:32 |
| persia | Otherwise you're just trying to learn stuff, and having to understand other arbitrary random applications can get in the way. | 13:33 |
| ankit_babbar | kk | 13:33 |
| slytherin | any autotools experts here? | 13:33 |
| persia | We tend to work in a collaborative manner, with lots of peer review. As a result, you shouldn't fear working on something large: that just means there's a better chance that there are others with whom you can work closely. | 13:34 |
| persia | slytherin: I'm far from an expert, but I've played a lot. What's the issue? | 13:34 |
| slytherin | persia: I am maintaining a project which has all the Makefile.in files and configure script maintained in VCS which is not really correct. Also there is no autogen.sh file. Where can I find a minimal autogen.sh file? | 13:35 |
| persia | /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/examples/autogen.sh | 13:38 |
| persia | gettext-doc also has heaps of them for various environments | 13:39 |
| slytherin | persia: I checked that file but it had mention of HPLIP in comment so I was wondering if the file was correct. | 13:39 |
| persia | It appears to be the scripts the hplip team used to clean up the mess they had, but it ought be useful for others. | 13:41 |
| persia | Like I said, there are lots of other examples in the gettext-doc examples tree. There's also a few on freshmeat. | 13:41 |
| slytherin | I will check gettext-doc | 13:41 |
| persia | Looking at the content of the script, rather than the header, I don't see anything that shouldn't work for just about any Debian-format package. | 13:42 |
| slytherin | Looks like all I need to do is call aclocal, autoconf, automake | 13:44 |
| === ScottK changed the topic of #ubuntu-motu to: Ubuntu 9.10 released! | Want to get involved with the MOTU? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing | Sponsor queue: http://is.gd/2y76G | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/ftbfs | http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/ | http://qa.ubuntuwire.com/debcheck | latest rebuild failures: http://udd.debian.org/cgi-bin/ubuntu_ftbfs.cgi | Outstanding merges: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~lucas/merges.html | ||
| Lutin | whoever asked for rebuilds on elementary: please wait until edje gets out of new | 13:52 |
| jbernard | daurnimator: your confusion is justified, that bug should be closed | 13:57 |
| Quintasan | Hiho | 13:57 |
| daurnimator | jbernard: the debian ml seemed to say someone else packaged it at the same time, but it was confusing to me | 13:57 |
| jbernard | daurnimator: i packaged for both debian and ubuntu | 13:59 |
| jbernard | daurnimator: but the bug should have been closed, im not sure about that | 14:00 |
| daurnimator | i went to install it on a computer today and was suprised it still hadn't gone through the process. | 14:01 |
| jbernard | daurnimator: which process? | 14:01 |
| daurnimator | the process of it being submitted, to it being in the standard repos | 14:02 |
| jbernard | it's in both debian and ubuntu now, your install should have gone smoothly. Did it not? | 14:03 |
| daurnimator | nope >.< well, I aptitude search for lua, and didn't see it there/// | 14:03 |
| jbernard | ahh, the debian version is slightly newer, i made an upload to conform to the debian pkg-lua stanard, so the package name is now 'liblua5.1-iconv0' | 14:06 |
| daurnimator | jbernard: http://pastey.net/130564 | 14:08 |
| jbernard | daurnimator: that is odd, it shows up in my list | 14:12 |
| jbernard | daurnimator: your cache is up to date? | 14:12 |
| daurnimator | jbernard: yep | 14:13 |
| jbernard | daurnimator: karmic? | 14:13 |
| daurnimator | oh hmm, I thought so, but its reporting jaunty | 14:14 |
| daurnimator | dist-upgrade doesn't show anything though | 14:14 |
| daurnimator | upgrading to karmic now >.< | 14:26 |
| bddebian | Heya gang | 15:09 |
| iulian | Hello there. | 15:11 |
| bddebian | Heya iulian | 15:13 |
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| ghostcube | bjsnider: ping | 18:12 |
| bjsnider | ghostcube, i thought jack was FOSS | 18:51 |
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| ghostcube | bjsnider: yeah but the problem is main/universe | 18:54 |
| ghostcube | isnt allowed to be cross compiled | 18:54 |
| ghostcube | so libxine is main jackd is universe | 18:55 |
| ghostcube | libxine is without jackd support | 18:55 |
| ghostcube | debian has it in the packages ubuntu patches it out | 18:55 |
| bjsnider | are you doing sound work of some kind? | 18:55 |
| ghostcube | and so there is this ppa from motin until jackd is in the main repo | 18:55 |
| ScottK | Being worked on for Lucid though. | 18:55 |
| ghostcube | yeah iam doing recording with ardour and lmms | 18:55 |
| ghostcube | and some friends bring me stuff to cut it | 18:56 |
| bjsnider | ok, the blob you're using works on the rt kernel you're using? | 18:56 |
| bjsnider | ScottK, how is it being worked on exactly? | 18:56 |
| ghostcube | sure it works on rt but iam running jackd as default soundserver | 18:56 |
| ghostcube | always | 18:56 |
| bjsnider | ghostcube, by "blob" i meant nvidia driver | 18:57 |
| ScottK | IIRC there's a spec somewhere about it. | 18:57 |
| bjsnider | it works on your rt kernel? | 18:57 |
| ghostcube | oh ehm i havent tried so far heh sorry | 18:57 |
| ghostcube | misunderstood | 18:57 |
| ScottK | There are outstanding MIR bugs. | 18:57 |
| bjsnider | ghostcube, but you need the rt kernel to do sound work, no? | 18:57 |
| ghostcube | no | 18:57 |
| ghostcube | its better but not always needed | 18:57 |
| ghostcube | rt is "overrated" | 18:57 |
| ghostcube | for professional mastering ofcourse | 18:58 |
| ghostcube | but not as amteur | 18:58 |
| bjsnider | ardour is pretty professional looking to my eyes | 18:58 |
| bjsnider | but what do i know | 18:58 |
| ghostcube | its lije protools or logic | 18:58 |
| ghostcube | it is pro | 18:58 |
| ghostcube | but it doesnt need rt to work good :) | 18:59 |
| bjsnider | ubuntu is patching jack out? | 18:59 |
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| ghostcube | afaik they remove the support in the packages yes | 18:59 |
| ghostcube | but ScottKwould no better i think | 18:59 |
| ghostcube | damn fingers | 18:59 |
| bjsnider | alright, well let me see what i can do about it | 18:59 |
| ScottK | I don't remember who was working on getting JACK promoted to Main, but it was someone in Ubuntu Studio. | 19:00 |
| bjsnider | i don't much care for the libxine in there. it's a year old, and even the libvdpau stuff is old | 19:00 |
| ScottK | crimsun probably knows. | 19:00 |
| ghostcube | bjsnider: motin has a 1.26 version of libxine in his ppa | 19:00 |
| ghostcube | yours is 1.25 | 19:00 |
| bjsnider | it's 1.1.16 | 19:01 |
| ghostcube | but the drivers work fine here thx for packaging btw | 19:01 |
| ghostcube | plugins is 1.26 and 1.25 inside xine /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.25 | 19:01 |
| bjsnider | oh | 19:01 |
| bjsnider | well, i want to package 1.1.17 but it has no ibvdpau support and the unstable 1.2 branch has an a/v sync problem that's definitely a showstopper right now | 19:02 |
| bjsnider | or so they tell me | 19:03 |
| bjsnider | ghostcube, would you be using his ppa as well for pulse and alsa? | 19:05 |
| bjsnider | i thought jack and pulse would be mutually exclusive | 19:06 |
| bjsnider | or jack and alsa would | 19:06 |
| ghostcube | bjsnider: yeah i run all the packages from there | 19:06 |
| ghostcube | i just choose jackd as soundserver | 19:06 |
| ghostcube | i start is with an shellscript before kde | 19:07 |
| ghostcube | so kde detects it as it is | 19:07 |
| ghostcube | works fine | 19:07 |
| ghostcube | :) | 19:07 |
| bjsnider | yeah but if jack is a sound server why doesn't it exclude pulse... | 19:07 |
| bjsnider | i mean he has pulse patched for jack as well in there | 19:07 |
| ghostcube | yeah no idea why maybe you can route pulse somehow to jackd | 19:08 |
| ghostcube | i run jackd + alsa 3with libxine backend | 19:08 |
| ghostcube | i love the patchbay from jackd gui thats so fantastic you should try :) | 19:09 |
| bjsnider | i guess it would be routing jack calls to pulse... | 19:09 |
| bjsnider | that's as clear as mud | 19:09 |
| ghostcube | wouldnt make sense o.O | 19:10 |
| ghostcube | but ok | 19:10 |
| bjsnider | every time i start trying to make sense out of linux sound, it inspires me to jump off the nearest tall building | 19:10 |
| ghostcube | rofl | 19:11 |
| bjsnider | ghostcube, it sounds to me like you've replaced pulseaudio with jackd. is that accurate? | 19:13 |
| ghostcube | bjsnider: hmm would say so i have pulseaudio installed but i use jackd jackd uses alsa driver and i manage all ports through jack | 19:19 |
| ghostcube | so i can virtually connect all players to one sound input | 19:19 |
| ghostcube | for example | 19:19 |
| ghostcube | i see vlc mplayer and so and can route them to system in :) | 19:19 |
| bjsnider | but can't you also do that with pul...er, never mind | 19:19 |
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| ghostcube | bjsnider: dont know never used it too | 19:20 |
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| ghostcube | but i dont think you can do this realtime | 19:20 |
| bjsnider | but then you're not using the rt kernel! | 19:20 |
| ghostcube | nah i meant at doing it it happens not in real realtime :P | 19:21 |
| ghostcube | hehe | 19:21 |
| ghostcube | wanna see a screenshot | 19:21 |
| ghostcube | its a bit hard to describe | 19:21 |
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| dabaR | So what are you guys doing these days? In particular as part of the lucid cycle... | 20:49 |
| dabaR | Doing the merges and fixing ftbfs's? | 20:50 |
| dabaR | Or sleeping? | 20:52 |
| dabaR | Maybe I got on the ignore list somehow... | 20:55 |
| cody-somerville | lol | 21:01 |
| micahg | is there an easy way to convert from source 3.0 back to 2.0 | 22:41 |
| RAOF | You mean "1.0"; it depends on what flavour of 3.0. | 22:42 |
| micahg | RAOF: yes, ok, I guess it's 3.0 quilt | 22:44 |
| RAOF | That's less easy, then. You'll probably need to extract the patches, re-add a quilt patch system, and such. | 22:44 |
| RAOF | That said, launchpad now accepts source version 3.0, so you probably don't need to convert it. | 22:45 |
| sebnerr | micahg: mind we'll have 3.0 Support in Lp soon though | 22:45 |
| wgrant | sebnerr: it has been supported for nearly a week now. | 22:46 |
| wgrant | 3.0 (quilt) is trivial to convert, as long as you have only one orig tarball. | 22:46 |
| micahg | sebnerr: there's already 3.0 in lucid, but not in karmic and I wanted to backport something | 22:46 |
| wgrant | micahg: Just remove debian/source/format | 22:46 |
| wgrant | Although you might need to recompress the tarball, if it's bzip2ed. | 22:46 |
| sebnerr | wgrant: oh I missed that, time passes. thx for the info | 22:47 |
| micahg | wgrant: do I remove that source dir or just the format file? | 22:48 |
| wgrant | micahg: Doesn't matter. | 22:48 |
| ScottK | wgrant: If it's already in the archive as a .bz2, will LP allow the md5sum mismatch with a tar.gz? | 22:48 |
| wgrant | ScottK: yes. It's a different filename, so it's an unrelated file. | 22:48 |
| ScottK | OK. | 22:49 |
| sebnerr | huhu ScottK :) | 22:51 |
| ScottK | o/ | 22:51 |
| geser | does it currently make sense to ship grab-merge in u-d-t without MoM? | 22:51 |
| sebnerr | /me waves at geser too :) | 22:52 |
| geser | sebnerr: hi (sebnerr like in sebner remote?) | 22:53 |
| ScottK | geser: I think it'd make sense to refactor it into a wrapper for the UDD merge stuff. | 22:55 |
| joaopinto | whe can I read about python packaging, in particular to pyshared vs dist-packages ? | 22:56 |
| micahg | wgrant: it worked, thanks, let's see if it builds :) | 22:56 |
| sebnerr | geser: Somebody else thought of pirate :p. but good idea since I use my Ipod Touch | 22:57 |
| sebnerr | ScottK: your mail about bzr merge reminded me to take a deep look too :) | 23:01 |
| geser | it works fine (if you pick a package with up-to-date branches in LP) | 23:01 |
| sebnerr | geser: BTW, my laptop is back but no chance to get it before monday :( wondering if they really repaired it though.. have been only 12 days ... | 23:04 |
| geser | it would be cool if they had managed to return it tomorrow :) | 23:05 |
| sebnerr | geser: the only problem is that the Laptop is in vienna and me not ^^ | 23:07 |
| crimsun | ghostcube: yes, we're getting j-a-c-k back into main this cycle | 23:31 |
| ari-tczew | men, shutdown Ubuntu and go celebrite chistmas with family! | 23:31 |
| james_w | ari-tczew: and what about the women? | 23:34 |
| crimsun | they don't count, I guess ;) | 23:34 |
| ari-tczew | james_w: you can of course celebrite with women :) | 23:36 |
| james_w | ari-tczew: my point was that there are not just men in here | 23:36 |
| crimsun | there are also people who don't identify as either men or women, but let's just keep this related to MOTU :) | 23:37 |
| ari-tczew | I never meet woman here :> | 23:39 |
| crimsun | the point is that it doesn't matter what gender someone identifies as. | 23:40 |
| ari-tczew | so, everybody, let's shutdown Ubuntu and go celebrity xmas :]-> | 23:41 |
| ari-tczew | s/celebrite/celebrate lol | 23:44 |
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