[05:23] <pteague> any idea why pressing the mute button gives me a message saying 'mute on' or 'mute off', but i'm still getting audio ?
[05:28] <mrand> pteague: sorry, I don't have any ideas - but most audio problems are a mystery to me.  I'd check the mythbuntu forums... most problems like this are not new.
[05:30] <pteague> yeah, just saw it & hadn't seen it before
[06:29] <foxbuntu> pteague, its because you are not using the internal mythtv audio controls
[06:39] <pteague> is that were i need to go in & set it to alsa:default ?
[06:58] <Technophil> yep
[08:02] <superm1> someone in here was talking about using aptitude for a safe-upgrade... in ubuntu land you shouldn't be using aptitude much..
[08:02] <superm1> you'll run into things like this every so often https://launchpad.net/bugs/499631
[09:45] <Technophil> Jamu seems to run every hour and pull down heaps of stuff from the net each time.  Anyone know where this is controlled - and how can I turn it down a bit, to say once a day?
[10:43] <Technophil> yep in mythbuntu 9.10 its an hourly cron job for anyone interested, not sure its needed to run hourly as it pulls a heap of stuff each hour.
[13:52] <pgee> hey all.  using ubuntu 9.10 on a server (backend) and a laptop (frontend)  used synaptic to install both and i did this today.  why is it i get a version mismatch ?  server is 22982 and frontend is 22594
[13:54] <pgee> hence i get an error mythtv database has new tv schema 1247 than expected 1244.
[14:00] <mrand> pgee: 22594 is the standard repo release... 22982 is a autobuilds.
[14:01] <pgee> mrand  but they don't talk with each other nicely! and they are downloaded from the same package manager.
[14:01] <pgee> !
[14:01] <Zinn> Sorry I don't know about
[14:02] <mrand> Are you sure you enabled the 0.22 version of the mirror/ppa when you installed autobuilds?
[14:03] <mrand> I have to admit I'm more than a bit surprised that they introduced a schema change (I don't recall it, in fact).  It sounds more like 0.23 (aka trunk right now) got selected.
[14:05] <pgee> i used the synaptic package manager.  it says it is version 22594 in the package manager.
[14:06] <mrand> Right.  You'll notice that 22982 is NOT listed there... the only way that you got that installed was by enabling autobuilds
[14:06] <mrand> !autobuilds
[14:06] <Zinn> Auto builds are available for MythTV 0.22 for Intrepid, Jaunty, and Karmic (0.22 and 0.23-trunk).  See http://www.mythbuntu.org/auto-builds for more info.  If you see references to 0.22-trunk, you can ignore the -trunk part :-)
[14:12] <pgee> mrand  i can't see where that autobuilds option is i selected.
[14:13] <pgee> using ubuntu 9.10  if i type apt-get purge mythtv-backend  delete the package from the cache, what do i then do to install the version i want ?
[14:14] <mrand> pgee: can you do the following command and paste the url here?
[14:14] <mrand> apt-cache policy mythtv-frontend | pastebinit
[14:15] <pgee> http://pastebin.com/d76dda9c7
[14:16] <mrand> Sorry - for the other machine with the 22982 version.
[14:17] <pgee> working on it
[14:19] <pgee> http://pastebin.com/d56782c0f
[14:19] <pgee> this is curious
[14:22] <pgee> i never noticed the different svn versions for the front end before.
[14:22] <mrand> Right.  And even more important than the svn version is the word "trunk" right before it.
[14:23] <mrand> That apt-cache is really from that machine?  It makes no sense to me.
[14:23] <pgee> mrand.  i am not sure what that really means.
[14:23] <pgee> yes.  i typed one in after the other.  took a while because i am not physically using that server at the moment.  had to set up a vnc.
[14:24] <pgee> i assume a trunk is a 'higher up' part of the build than a branch ?
[14:24] <mrand> the word trunk means that it is most definitely not running 0.22
[14:24] <mrand> yep
[14:25] <mrand> trunk will eventually become 0.23. It's the development trunk.  0.22 was branched off mid-October and the schema almost never changes on a branch (like 0.22)
[14:26] <pgee> i have been pissing about with this for a few days.  i probably have stuffed it up somewhere.  i am quite happy to completely wipe mythtv and start again. i have done this a few times by using apt-get purge  but i don't know another way to get rid of the source/packages.
[14:27] <pgee> frankly i don't really care for all the new features at the moment.  i just want something that works.
[14:29] <mrand> pgee: understood.  When I'm removing things, I like to use synaptic so that I can easily see what is there or might be left (although search in synaptic is less than perfect, so I typically sort by version) and then I select "complete removal"
[14:29] <pgee> mrand  done that a number of times.
[14:30] <mrand> pgee: including mythtv-database?
[14:30] <pgee> mrand including mysql!
[14:31] <mrand> hehehe... well, ubuntu does a decent job of not deleting config data :-)
[14:32] <pgee> i found where caches were hidden.  rm them as well.  + deleted the mythtv user + removed the .mythtv folder.
[14:32] <mrand> pgee: perhaps you need to drop mythconverg manually.  I thought removing mythtv-database would do it, but perhaps I'm wrong.
[14:33] <pgee> did that using phpmyadmin
[14:33] <pgee> + deleted the mythtv database user
[14:34] <mrand> uh, ok - so it isn't a database problem... it's the mythfrontend that is the problem.
[14:36] <mrand> It's like the /usr/bin/mythfrontend isn't getting removed when you purge or something.
[14:41] <pgee> ok.  i will try once more before bed...  i have  rm -R /etc/mythtv  rm  -r ~/.mythtv  used synaptic to completely remove anything related to mythtv.  dropped the mythconverg database.
[14:42] <mrand> If you type mythtfrontend, does it find anything?
[14:42] <mrand> pgee: ^
[14:43] <pgee> yes. it is!
[14:43] <pgee> working on it now.  used locate mythtv and found loads of stuff left!
[14:44] <mrand> pgee: and synaptic shows nothing in the "installed" version column for mythtv-frontend?
[14:44] <pgee> uh huh.  and yet it is there.  not for much longer... !
[14:45] <mrand> What does apt-cache policy mythtv-frontend show?
[14:48] <pgee> W: Unable to locate package myth-frontend
[14:48] <pgee> i think i remember following some dodgy instrunctions to start with that didn't work.  seems they have caused me no end of problems.
[14:49] <mrand> apt-cache policy mythtv-frontend
[14:50] <mrand> (you forgot the "tv"
[14:50] <pgee> http://pastebin.com/d6ad0a579
[14:51] <pgee> sorry.
[14:52] <mrand> cool.  (none) is the right answer.
[14:53] <pgee> ok.  i have deleted the mythv account. rm /home/mythtv  and deleted loads of other stuff.  try again.
[14:53] <pgee> thanks for your help tonight.
[14:53] <mrand> hehehe  it morning here in Texas
[14:53] <pgee> morning here in tasmania.   2 am that is.
[14:55] <pgee> mrand well i am going to get another beer while that downloads... ;-)
[14:55] <mrand> download a beer!
[14:55] <mrand> hehehe... I'll keep my fingers crossed for ya.
[14:58] <pgee> mmmm beer  http://www.fostersgroup.com/enjoy/beer/D95FC17E050549D78832F6A869F4E2EC.htm
[15:01] <mrand> http://www.shiner.com/main.php?page=beer
[15:05] <pgee> http://pastebin.com/d57d59cc1  definitely time for bed.
[15:07] <mrand> libraries...
[15:08] <mrand> libmyth* in synaptic.
[15:10] <pgee> http://pastebin.com/d4b401fa7
[15:17] <mrand> pgee - idea: if you enable auto-builds, it may overwrite that since autobuilds is using a newer svn checkout.  The only "but" is that it may not install because of a packaing problem that should be fixed on whatever comes after 22994
[15:18] <mrand> I've gotta run for now...
[15:18] <pgee> thanksf or your help./
[15:20] <mrand> Wish we would have fixed it, but I have a minor hope that just installing autobuilds will fix it since the svn checkout is newer.
[15:22] <mrand> another 10 or 12 hours and that new autobuild should be built and ready.
[15:22] <mrand> Ok, I'm off like a prom dress.
[16:36] <quotaholic> Hi all, just downloaded Mythbuntu 9.10 and tried it on my new mac mini in live cd form. I was surprized to see a prompt for a login and password. Despite a few google attempts I cant seem to find what the default login and pass are. Can anyone here help?
[16:45] <tgm4883> quotaholic, that is odd
[16:45] <tgm4883> I'd assume USER: Ubuntu   and no password
[16:46] <quotaholic> I tried that and x reset back to the standard gdm facing
[16:46] <tgm4883> standard GDM facing?
[16:48] <quotaholic> I thought it was odd since only the slack based live distro's usually ask for a password. This took place last night. Let me try again. GDM facing..... By a blanking of the screen and then a reinitialization it seemed like x was resetting and gdm was the next thing I saw. Hense gdm facing. Sorry my terminology is not that of a developer
[16:57] <quotaholic>  Yeah nothing changed. Upon getting past the Mythbuntu splash screen I get dock style bar at the bottom of the screen and a dialog box with the name "ubuntu" and below this a login button. No other options but to press button. After entering informatiion and pressing enter  a sessions menu appears on the "dock" but goes away as credentials did not take and then back to square one. Just seems like I am not using the right lo
[17:51] <MythbuntuGuest18> does anyone know why myth archive keeps failing me and saying "Trying a hard-reset of the device"
[18:52] <bllz> Is there a way to automate the use of myth.rebuilddatabse.pl with metadata grabbed by Jamu?  I don't really care if the recordings I'm adding include an accurate record date... that could be replaced by, say, the original airdate.
[19:13] <lautriv> hi, i miss the option for video-configuration since update from 0.21 to 0.22, anyone a clue ?
[21:51] <Hilikus> hey guys
[21:52] <Hilikus> i need help setting up my RC. i already enabled lirc using MCC but in IRW i don't detect any presses
[23:37] <Hilikus>  what kernel module do i need to be able to use a hauppauge pvr-150 IR Blaster?