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davrianWould anyone happen to know of a decent Subversion web management tool? I looked, tried some solutions that i couldn't get working... anything anyone can recommend?00:31
jmarsdendavrian: The two straightforward (already packaged for Ubuntu) choices would be viewvc and websvn00:34
davrianbrilliant, i will look into that, thanks!00:35
jmarsdenNo problem.00:36
davrianjmarsden: Would I be right in saying that WebSVN is probably the better option...00:39
jmarsdenI'm not really sure.  I'd guess I've seen more viewvc installations "out there" on the web, but I'm not really sure which one is "better".  They are free... try both? :)00:40
davrianokay, cool! thanks for your help :)00:41
jmarsdenYou're welcome.00:41
j416Hi! I just installed Ubuntu 9.10 Server, and realised that this time the installed didn't set up postfix for me, last time it asked a lot of questions like mydestination setting etc. I wonder, why didn't it do that this time I installed?02:42
j416s/installed/installer/02:42
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j416(last install was just a few hours ago, and the only difference was that I had mistakenly set a numeric host name, which it didn't like)02:43
lamontbase install doesn't install an MTA unless you tell it to02:44
lamontOTOH, apt-get install postfix will get you postfix...02:44
j416lamont: it installed postfix alright, I did check "Mail server", but it didn't ask me those questions02:46
j416I'm just curious why it didn't02:46
Thugal_dpkg-reconfigure postfix  ?02:48
lamontprobably related to debconf priority02:48
j416debconf priority..02:49
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j416there02:49
j416dpkg-reconfigure postfix works great :)02:49
j416thank you02:49
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Sativahey i have a netra T1125 made by Sun, and I'm looking to turn it to a server to host a gameserver from my computer.05:38
Sativathe machine doesn't have a monitor hook-up, so i don't know how to see what i'm doing. xD05:41
ziesemerSativa, I'm not at all familiar with the hardware, other than through a quick web search, but I'm guessing it must have some sort of remote interface?  Possibly even just a simple terminal over one of the serial ports?05:55
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ziesemerCan anyone help me figure out why my VLAN interface is no longer receiving traffic?  Only change is a new motherboard.  The network driver apparently switched from "sky2" to "r8169".06:13
jmarsdenziesemer: It's a guess, but perhaps the vlan interface config file(s) have a MAC address in them, or a driver name, and both of those have changed.  Can you just delete the vlan interface and recreate it on your new hardware?06:16
ziesemerWhere would I find these config files?  As far as I'm aware, the VLAN is more or less just created dynamically through /etc/network/interfaces .06:21
ziesemerI was thinking something along those lines, though, and allowed the physical interface to move back to the new eth1, so my VLAN is also eth1.5 instead of eth0.5.  Still have the same issue.  ifconfig eth1.5 shows 0 packets / bytes received, but does show the traffic being sent.06:22
jmarsdenI'm not sure... if the vlan stuff depends on the NIC being able to deal with tagged frames, then you should perhaps also check that the new r8169 NIC can handle that.  I'm not sure of the current trends, but a couple of years back there were some NICs which could do the tagging and some which could not.06:26
jmarsden802.1q , or something like that?06:26
ziesemerThat is what I'm afraid of.  It's a Mini ITX system, and other than resorting to USB for a 2nd network interface, I really need the VLAN support to work with my network switch and act as a router.06:28
ziesemerHonestly, I'm trying to find more details about the network driver.  The "sky2" and "r8169" I found were only as comments in the 70-persistent-net.rules udev file.06:28
ziesemerSearching for "r8169 vlan" online doesn't yield any specific successes or warnings in terms of vlan.  But I'm suprirsed that vconfig doesn't give any errors or warnings, and that the vlan adapter is successful in transmitting, just not receiving.06:30
jmarsdenAgreed.  r8169 is the Realtek gigabit driver... I think it supports a range of R81xx chips.  Doing   sudo lshw -c net   # could get you more details on the hardware you actually have.06:31
ziesemerIt's a "RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller".  Should I be seeing anything about VLAN in the listed capabilities?06:35
ziesemerI did just find http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=28371 , but the symptoms are a bit different.  There, at least, the driver is reporting dropped RX packets.  I've also tried lowering the interface MTU, but I wouldn't think that would be an issue with ping packets.06:37
jmarsdenI'm not sure; that sounds like reasonably modern hardware, so it really "should" have the vlan tagging capabilty, but I don't know how/whether that capability is announced to the world.06:37
jmarsdenAnd yes, by default ping packets are small.06:37
ziesemerIt's a brand new Intel motherboard.  Not just Intel-based, Intel-branded.  I'm rather surprised it didn't just have an Intel network chip on it as well.06:38
ziesemerShould I file a bug report on this?06:50
jmarsdenYou could; it's not clear at this point if it is just a config issue of some sort or a "real" bug, but it can't hurt.06:51
jmarsdenYou could also try setting things up so the other system on the VLAN was a machine on which you could run something like wireshark to "see" the packets at that end, so you know for sure the echo reply packets really are going out destined for that vlan interface.  Probably a pain to set up, but it might tell you something more about what is happening.06:52
ziesemerI can do that.  The low tech approach I've already used is that the LED light blinks on the port of this box when it is pinged from another machine on the VLAN, but the box never "sees" the packet.06:53
jmarsdenOK.  I should go to bed... sorry I can't be more help :)06:54
ziesemerAlso going to try booting from a Live CD, and see if that helps at all.  A bit of a pain, with an older kernel, etc., that will be in use.  Attempting a re-install might be better, but that's a lot of work...06:54
ziesemernp, thanks for your feedback!06:54
ziesemerHow can I find the version and/or other details of the r8169 driver currently in use?07:01
_rubenziesemer: do you see traffic when monitoring the actual interface (not the vlan)?07:02
ziesemer_ruben, what would be the best way to check?  Run Wireshark or tcpdump on eth1?07:03
ziesemerInteresting.  tcpdump shows "vlan 5, p 0", with ARP requests.  So eth1 is surely receiving the vlan traffic.07:04
_rubenindeed07:05
_rubenso if the vlan interface doesnt see the same traffic, you think the problem is in the vlan part, not the driver07:05
ziesemerRan tcpdump against the vlan, and don't see any traffic.  This agreed with the statistics shown on ifconfig.07:06
ziesemerThe other interesting find:  I just downloaded the r8169 Linux driver available straight from Realtek.  The "DCONFIG_R8169_VLAN" compile flag is disabled in the default makefile.07:07
ziesemerSo I'm thinking I'll try recompiling that with the flag enabled, and use it as my new driver to see if that helps.  But I'd like to find the details of what I currently have in this aspect...07:07
ziesemerOf course it can't be that easy.  Errors compiling...07:16
ziesemerIt seems I need to have the linux-source packages.  I'm offline, due to the network issue, so I can't just use apt-get.  Apparently, I'm slightly out-of-date with the kernel, at 2.6.31-15, where http://packages.ubuntu.com/karmic/linux-source is showing 2.6.31-16.  Where can I find the -15 to download?07:27
ScottKziesemer: Look on Launchpad.  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source07:29
ziesemerScottK: "Error: Page not found".  And browsing http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/ , I don't see any -15 package...07:30
ziesemerI'm assuming I need the -14 or -16 package instead?07:31
ScottKhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic/+source/linux/2.6.31-15.5007:33
ziesemerExcellent, thanks!07:33
ziesemerErr, no *.deb files?07:34
ScottKThere are links07:35
ziesemerAhh, builds.07:36
ziesemer?  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/2.6.31-15.50/+build/1339885 has no linux-source-* .07:38
ziesemerSorry, I've really not had to do this offline before...07:38
ScottKNow you need me to understand how they build the kernel and I really don't.07:38
ziesemerI just used the low-tech approach.  :-)  Ran Synaptic, and told it to install.  Now I have an error dialog showing the file download location:  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/...07:39
ziesemerAnd it's not there, either.  Ugh...07:41
ziesemerIt's as if -15 never existed.07:42
_ruben-16 is probably a security update, which 'kills' -15 on the mirrors .. atleast, that's what i've been keep telling myself :p07:43
_rubenand you most likely dont need the full source, just the headers will do most of the time07:43
ziesemerFinally.  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/2.6.31-15.50/+build/1339887 .07:43
ziesemerI had the headers, and had the compile errors.  Driver readme has requirements of "kernel source tree", so I'll give it a try...07:44
_rubenah07:53
ziesemerAll that, and it still doesn't compile.  A lot of "'struct net_device' has no member named '...'".07:54
uvirtbotNew bug: #499491 in eucalyptus "[1.6.2] Fails to boot an instance: Failed to add tap interface to bridge 'br0'" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49949108:12
_rubenziesemer: sounds like it cant properly handle your kernel version (eg: old driver which doesnt know about recent kernel changes)08:27
ziesemerYep.  :-(08:31
ziesemerI just sent an email to Realtek, see what good it does.  Seems related to this:  http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/27566/08:32
ziesemerSeems that the r8168 driver may have better overall support.  May have to give that a try...08:33
_rubenziesemer: are you sure that option isnt enabled by default btw? i dont have any karmic boxes handy i think, but hardy-jaunty have it enabled08:43
ziesemerWhich "option"?08:43
_rubenCONFIG_R8169_VLAN .. oh .. you refered to the default of the source provided by realtek, not the actual ubuntu kernels08:46
ziesemerRight.  Finding the details of what is used in the actual Ubuntu kernels is something else I was trying to do, though...08:47
ziesemerThe best I came up with so far was running "strings" against the r8169 .ko file.08:47
_rubencheck /boot/config* :)08:48
ziesemerI didn't know about that.  Very handy - thanks!  Yes, CONFIG_R8169_VLAN=y .08:50
ziesemerBut it still is certainly not without issue, and I'm guessing due to it being an "older" driver.08:50
ziesemerBut now I'm finding that maybe r8168 is a better match to my hardware anyway...08:50
ziesemerUgh.  Got r8168 to compile.  Again, seems to be a better match for my hardware anyway.  But still no progress with the VLAN.08:54
freaky[t]_is there a default ubuntu setup for mail server with mysql for several domains ?09:37
_rubenfreaky[t]_: dont think so .. but there's tons of howto's to be found for such a setup09:41
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uvirtbotNew bug: #499621 in samba (main) "nmbd fails to start after Jaunty upgrade to Karmic" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49962109:56
uvirtbotNew bug: #495618 in eucalyptus "euca-describe-image-attribute does not show block device mappings" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49561810:17
uvirtbotNew bug: #496761 in eucalyptus "Walrus IP is not correctly updated in DNS records" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49676110:26
j416hi. How can I prevent apt-get from installing things from guessing what I wanted?10:37
j416i typed: apt-get install git10:37
j416and it seems to have installed something called gnuit o_O10:38
_rubenbecause most likely you want to install git-core instead10:40
_ruben!info git10:40
ubottuPackage git does not exist in karmic10:41
_ruben!info git hardy10:41
ubottugit (source: git): GNU Interactive Tools, a file browser/viewer and process viewer/killer. In component universe, is optional. Version 4.3.20-12 (hardy), package size 259 kB, installed size 992 kB10:41
_rubenj416: it didnt guess, it just didnt install the package you wanted (most likely)10:41
j416I want it to at least ask me if I mean gnuit, before installing it by itself10:42
_rubenwhich ubuntu version do you use?10:42
j4169.10 64-bit10:43
j416(is 'git' an alias for 'gnuit'? o_O)10:43
_rubenyes10:43
_rubenPackage git10:44
_ruben    * karmic: Virtual package10:44
_ruben      provided by: gnuit10:44
j416oh..10:44
j416that explains it10:44
_rubengnuit is new name of git10:44
j416ok. well well )10:44
j416thanks10:44
j416:)10:44
j416i thought it was expanding git to gnuit10:44
j416i restored it from my vm image backup now anyway, and going to install git-core. Thank you!10:44
_rubenwouldnt surprise if lucid or newer would remove the git virtual package (once all dependencies are resolved) .. to avoid the confusing between git (the vcs) and gnuit10:45
j416it would be handy if apt-get could always ask though10:45
j416apt-get install X; "This will install package X, continue? [y/n]"10:46
j416hm. well well10:47
_rubenwouldnt surprise if apt's configurable in a way to always ask to continue, not just when additional packages are to be isntalled10:57
j416maybe! :)10:59
imagodeiUbuntu 9.04 server running on Single Board Computer AMD GEODE Wafer-LX3. I installed festival text-to-speech, but I got error message: "Linux: can't open /dev/dsp". I installed ALSA and set .festivalrc according to these instructions: http://aanugraha.wordpress.com/2008/12/20/festival-cant-open-devdsp/. Still no joy, getting message that aplay does not recognize file format. I'm noob, be gentle :)11:02
_rubenwhen im about to install 'unknown' software, i usualy use -s .. it'll show what'll be installed, but wont do it11:03
_rubentext-to-speach on a server .. how odd .. my servers dont even have audio devices11:04
imagodeiI wouldnt consider using server, but this SBC is not some powerful machine... Can't afford Gnome or KDE11:15
freaky[t]__ruben ok thank you ;)11:20
katakbutahow do you prevent users from using ssh to tunnel their application11:21
_rubenblock ssh traffic11:34
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j416how can I check if package X is installed?12:18
alkisgdpkg -l X ?12:18
j416seems to work! thank you! :)12:19
alkisgWhat's a good domain name to use for private sites, e.g. to setup LDAP etc? .local is reserved for mdns (avahi), so what else is commonly used? .localdomain?12:23
kworkhttp://no.life.ee/kvm-error.txt <-- any ideas what could be wrong12:52
pmatuliskwork: ensure that virtualization extensions are enabled in your BIOS12:55
kworkuh hmmmz12:55
pmatuliskwork: what?12:55
kworki dont reboot my boxes :P12:55
kworkbut okey will give it a try thanks for hint12:56
uvirtbotNew bug: #499811 in eucalyptus "[1.6.2] Recent euca_conf changes break local key sync" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/49981112:56
Shubuntuhi, where do i go to find help for poptop?13:30
j416Shubuntu: google13:32
j416Shubuntu: http://poptop.sourceforge.net/dox/13:32
j416:)13:32
Shubuntuj416, isn't there a chatroom?13:32
Shubuntui'm having difficulty setting it up to use13:33
Shubuntui'm trying to connect from windows clients and browse from my servers instead13:33
imagodeiUbuntu 9.04 server running on Single Board Computer AMD GEODE Wafer-LX3. I installed festival text-to-speech, but I got error message: "Linux: can't open /dev/dsp". I installed ALSA and set .festivalrc according to these instructions: http://aanugraha.wordpress.com/2008/12/20/festival-cant-open-devdsp/. Still no joy, getting message that aplay does not recognize file format. I would like to...13:42
imagodei...make this machine speak. I'm noob, be gentle :)13:42
_rubenShubuntu: unless you really want to use windows' builtin vpn client, i'd suggest looking into openvpn, its a breeze to setup13:48
arjit's a pain on vista13:49
arjand even more so on 713:49
Shubuntuwell my clients are kinda limited on installing anything13:49
Shubuntuthey can only use whatever is there13:49
Shubuntuit's a work network13:49
Shubuntuand they block everything13:49
Shubuntuwe want to be able to use skype13:50
Shubuntuthey could run a standalone skype13:50
Shubuntuand i need them to be able to connect through vpn and run skype13:50
Shubuntuso they can do voice chat13:50
Shubuntu_ruben, if openvpn can do that i'm up for it, I don't have a preference on software, just the end results13:52
Shubuntusome companies are just stupid, they lock skype and youtube etc out13:52
Shubuntuand I want to be able to communicate with my friends13:53
alkisgWhat's a good domain name to use for private sites, e.g. to setup LDAP etc? .local is reserved for mdns (avahi), so what else is commonly used? .localdomain?14:13
Sam-I-Amlocaldomain works, or localnet14:14
Sam-I-Amor just make something up14:14
alkisgOK, I was just looking for a common one. Thanks!14:14
ankit_babbar1hello14:17
ankit_babbar1can any body help me in openldap14:17
ankit_babbar1tough this may be not a right place but i have ask many times in forum14:18
ankit_babbar1?14:20
Sam-I-Amankit_babbar1: theres often help in #openldap as well14:23
bogeyd6When using apt-get remove, for a bunch of packages. How can you make it ignore any that are missing? I have like 89 packages that i copied from a website to remove the gnome desktop and turn it into a server.14:24
ankit_babbar1ny other active irc?14:25
bogeyd6Anyone know the command to remove the gnome desktop and just go to a command line install?14:32
ankit_babbar1sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop14:33
ankit_babbar1or try the server version rather14:33
bogeyd6ankit_babbar1, trying to get to server version without uninstalling14:34
bogeyd6ankit_babbar1,  that command doesnt work14:36
bogeyd6apt-get remove gnome* worked great14:36
ankit_babbar1kk14:36
ankit_babbar1https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE14:38
ankit_babbar1ldap help plllzz14:40
alkisgankit_babbar1: are you looking for something specific? or just the first steps?14:56
RoyKhttp://rampantgames.com/blog/uploaded_images/redneckchristmas-724870.jpg15:14
Aisoni've got a nice lvm drive. quite simple setup, just one logical volume with one physical volume15:45
Aisonbut after rebout, it's not available15:46
Aisonquite strange15:46
oru_workfor some reason mysql and other services that are associated with it are taking up way more memory than it should15:47
oru_workcan someone help me resolve this issue ?15:47
oru_worka logbot for irc that i am running shows that its using 640 mb of ram15:49
oru_workcan someone have a look at this and maybe hint me on why this logbot is taking up so much memory http://picasaweb.google.com/pavel.mishuk/Rootforum?authkey=Gv1sRgCM6wxsTCtvLMnAE#slideshow/541846575708113341016:28
oru_workcan someone hint me on why this tiny program is taking up so much memory , this is a copy paste from htop http://dpaste.com/137068/16:42
jpdsoru_work: I think the actual memory usage is the 0.9.16:44
Aisonhow do I setup a syslog server?16:46
Aisonoh, found it, /etc/rsyslog.conf16:48
teddymillsIs JEOS considered good enough for production/client vms?17:14
teddymillsI have been installing full Ubuntu 9.10 installs, but if JEOS is good enough, I would rather install the much smaller JEOS17:15
jpdsJeOS is really just a stripped down version of Ubuntu.17:15
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blackxored.hello fellow18:44
blackxoredI am using backuppc18:44
blackxoredand worked properly18:44
blackxoredon a virtual machine18:44
blackxorednow I started virtualization for real18:45
blackxoredsetting up a server with backuppc18:45
blackxorednow I get NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME18:45
blackxoredeach time a backup task is run18:45
blackxoredcan you help me to spot why's that? the server is ubuntu 8.04.3 and it's outside the domain BTW18:45
kantxxanyone here know if theres a bacula 3.x repo for 9.10?19:52
fluvvellI have a problem, after upgrading my raid array and removing old elements, hardy 8.04 fails to  boot the array. I can load it under a live cd and it checks ok, but after grub says its installed on ok, I get no boot19:54
fluvvellI can chroot onto the array and run stuff on there too.19:54
fluvvellRaid119:54
fluvvellSo, in summary, raid1, 8.04 server, data intact but not booting.19:56
geniifluvvell: Any grub/mount error messages?19:58
fluvvellno, grub-install seemed happy to write to /dev/md019:58
geniifluvvell: During boot attempt from raid1 which fails19:59
fluvvellAh, well no it just sits there with a blinking cursor19:59
fluvvellgenii: Doesn't get to the grub menu20:00
geniiSounds like some mbr issue then. Is one of the drives on the array normally the primary master ?20:00
genii( in the order which bios looks for drives to boot from)20:01
guntbertfluvvell: wild guess: did uuids change?20:01
fluvvellgenii: they're sata, but no I've just looked and fdisk shows them further down20:01
fluvvellgenii: uuid of the raid array?20:01
geniifluvvell: Yes, guntbert means the md0 UUID20:02
fluvvellgenii: no, i upgraded by adding two new drives one after the other then pulling the old drives once the array was clean.20:02
geniifluvvell: My first suspect is that sda is where you want grub and not md020:02
fluvvellgenii: yes, but grub complains that it can't mount that when I have the md0 mounted to chroot into20:03
fluvvellgenii: so should I change the sata plugs so that one of the array elements is sda1 ?20:03
fluvvellguntbert: sorry, too quick to type before checking who to reply to :-)20:04
guntbertfluvvell: np - please keep to genii - no raid experience here20:06
fluvvellI'll reboot with that and see. I've tried so many combinations so far, (thanks guntbert)20:06
guntbertfluvvell: Good luck :-)20:07
fluvvellguntbert, I need it. I'm onto day 3 of outage and worried.20:07
geniiSorry on lag, work requires me for periods here (this why I am mostly /away currently)20:08
mcashi20:09
DoonzHey guys im looking for a tutoreil that would show me the idiot steps (as in every step from a to z) in regards to starting up ubuntu server and have programs auto start in byobu each in their own window20:09
mcasis there a package for icinga?20:10
fluvvellgenii: grub complains that it cannot mount selected partition - I'm chrooted into the md0, trying to install via grub> root (hd0)       then  setup (hd0,0)20:31
fluvvellgenii: ok, i used grub-install and now its booting! I just have an issue with fsck to work out re uuid,20:40
BookmanI was running 9.04 and was able to share my laser printer over the internet with CUPS with no issues.  I recently upgraded to 9.10 and now I can no longer access my printer over the internet.  Not sure what to check.20:52
BookmanIt allows printers to print to it over the local network with no issues though.20:53
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mrbig4545hey guys, ive installed ubuntu server, i want to set up apache2 + svn+ dav21:16
mrbig4545but i cant find mod_dav_svn anywhere21:16
mrbig4545any ideas?21:17
mrbig4545hmm, i think its coz universe isnt working proper21:17
ziesemerI've been working on getting a similar setup complete.21:24
ziesemerAs I recall, I just built SVN from the latest source (since the latest available in the Ubuntu repositories always seems a bit dated), and mod_dav_svn is built as part of this.21:25
mrbig4545apparently i need libapache2-svn21:25
mrbig4545but aptitude says it doesnt exist21:25
mrbig4545i think my repos are configured wrong21:25
mrbig4545ziesemer: does sound like a plan21:26
BookmanWhere can I find information on setting up my 9.10 machine for syslog serving?21:58
guntbertbookman its rsyslogd now - somewhere I have something22:01
maxbman rsyslog.conf would probably be a good start22:03
guntbertBookman: http://www.ubuntu.com/system/files/CentralLogging-v4-20090901-03.pdf and http://kwlug.org/files/2009-08-10-syslog-servers.pdf22:03
Bookmanguntbert, Thanks!  Perfect documentation.22:04
Bookmanguntbert, and the kwlug reference is local for me.22:05
guntbertBookman: glad to help - I already made good use of it :)22:05
da65hi all22:29
da65Deb etc is dead soon22:30
da65I need to install another system22:30
da65bunt server any good then?22:30
da65I need root tho22:31
da65well thanks for your help anyway22:31
irc_newbcan anyone help me with my ssh server?22:35
jpdsSome people don't know the meaning of patience.22:39
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keesmathiaz: say, can I give you the exim4 merge?  (or to ttx maybe?)23:22
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