[00:01] crimsun: is that linker explosion newer then? newer as in probably a year ago when I was testing PPC crap here? [00:02] nixternal: Either it's newer or the new qt4-x11 changed what it was doing. [00:03] I'm pretty sure Scott and Steve were debugging it earlier this week [00:04] Yep. [00:05] At least where Scott asked Steve to figure it out and he did means "Scott and Stever were debugging". [00:06] gosh, look what day it is [00:06] I could always fire up my PPC and put Lucid on it for some work if needed [00:08] nixternal: Bug 498631 is the one we're trying to work around here. [00:08] Launchpad bug 498631 in binutils "ld segfaults with --gc-sections on powerpc" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/498631 [00:14] Should kigo recommend or at least suggest a Go engine such as gnugo ? Users get told that they need to install one when they first run otherwise. [00:19] ryanakca: I would think "Recommends" [00:19] it's kinda useless otherwise [00:20] yeah, w/o a go engine it won't do a darn thing [00:33] what's the deal with systemsettings printer config? [00:33] the deal? [00:34] yes, it doesn't work for me, I get the "...does not provide an interface 'KCModule' with keyword...." [00:34] Could someone with upload access to the PPA / whereever the changes need to be made make them please? (add gnugo as a recommends to kigo) [00:35] ryanakca: Where is it now? [00:35] nixternal: oh kdebindings needs love I expect [00:35] ifeq (i386,powerpc) [00:35] /bin/sh: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")") [00:35] humbug [00:36] ryanakca: how goes the website? [00:37] Riddell: oh yeah, seeing as kdebindings is 4.3.2-0ubuntu4.1 [00:38] Someone should fix that. [00:39] ScottK: I'm using 4.3.85 at the moment from the PPA. [00:39] if nobody is working on it, I will take a look after dinner [00:39] ryanakca: kdebindings from ppa? [00:39] seems there is a 4.3.4 there at least, the ppa that is for kdebindings [00:40] ScottK: what was the problem with mergin with bzr? [00:40] I say your list posting saying stuff failed [00:41] was it just not well documented? [00:41] shtylman: It's totally different than the way I've done it before. [00:41] I see [00:41] Parts of it aren't well documented [00:41] nixternal: no, kigo from the kdegames source [00:41] Parts of it don't work well. [00:41] I think it's fine for simple merges that don't have any branch import problems. [00:41] nixternal: version 4:4.3.85-0ubuntu1~karmic1~ppa1 [00:42] shtylman: I'll need to prod the sysadmins when I get back from my vacation [00:42] shtylman: (I'm in Florida at the moment) [00:44] ooo [00:44] is it warm there [00:44] ? [00:44] ScottK: gotcha [00:46] shtylman: currently 60F ... average of 71 this week [00:46] very nice [00:46] Better than snow back home :) [00:46] haha [00:53] what a lovely time or year to get a head cold :( [00:56] im sick as well :( [00:56] aww [00:57] At least I'll be getting a new compy for Christmas :) [00:58] nice [00:58] desktop or laptop? [00:58] * Daskreech wants a new compy :( [00:58] hrmm, what's up with pbuilder? I am getting a weird error [00:58] laptop [00:59] about time I retired this dinosaur of a desktop [00:59] How old is it? [00:59] hrmm [00:59] Sysinfo for 'jonathan-desktop': Linux 2.6.32-9-generic running KDE Development Platform 4.3.85 (KDE 4.3.85 (KDE 4.4 Beta2)), CPU: Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.50GHz at 2500 MHz (5000 bogomips), HD: 166/217GB, RAM: 604/615MB, 163 proc's, 1.7d up [00:59] 6 years now, I believe [00:59] * Daskreech shudders at celeron [00:59] yeh :/ [00:59] came with 128 MB RAM originally [01:00] wow [01:00] how do you survive [01:00] I have 700 MB of RAM [01:00] I upgraded it to that [01:00] 1.2 Ghz Prc but at least it's AMD [01:00] I have 6gb of ram [01:00] That's like my hard drive :) [01:00] haha [01:02] Reminds me the other day I was helping someone in #kubuntu and he was having problems with compositing [01:02] New laptop will have 4GB RAM, Intel Dual-Core @ 2.16 GHZ and an Intel X4500MHD graphics card (new, but not new enough to not be unsupported by the intel drivers) [01:02] Turned out he was having performance issues and after about 2 Mins said it was in a Virtual machine [01:02] hahaha [01:02] nice [01:03] JontheEchidna: sounds like it will be good :) [01:03] So I started trying to find out how much resources the Virtual machine had and he said about 4GB [01:03] Right but how much RAM did you give the Virtual machine? [01:03] About 4GB [01:03] Oh ... Well how much RAM do you have in the computer? [01:03] 42 GB [01:03] I'm sorry I can't help you anymore [01:03] 42? or 4.2? [01:04] 42 [01:04] lol [01:04] The answer to life, universe, and how I have no knowledge of computers :D [01:04] it can support like 68GB or something [01:04] he was waiting for the rest of it to arrive [01:05] oh, so he seriously had 42 GB? [01:05] Yes [01:05] o_0 [01:05] Yeah [01:05] That's when I decided I needed a new computer [01:05] >_> [01:05] heh [01:06] Some Server he has for work [01:06] wow [01:06] 42gb [01:06] The lappy: http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+Laptop+with+Intel%26%23174%3B+Pentium%26%23174%3B+Processor+-+Midnight+Blue/9555992.p?id=1218124206463&skuId=9555992 [01:07] but seriously when you have more RAM than I had in the first three Hard drives I've owned combined it's time to step up a little [01:07] Why not a system76? [01:08] out of the budget range for me [01:09] kk [01:10] would have been nice if I could, but I'm pretty glad with what I got for the price :) [01:13] anyone having probs with pbuilder on lucid? [01:14] coincidentally I got a out-of-disk-space error [01:14] my fault, though [01:14] (irt to pbuilder errors) [01:15] nixternal: I have this error with pbuilder: /usr/lib/pbuilder/pbuilder-checkparams: line 150: /dev/fd/62: No such file or directory [01:16] ok, same here Lex79 [01:16] :( [01:16] better not pbuilder update then... [01:17] my pbuilder-dist works fine in karmic, but no on my lucid box [01:17] oh well [01:18] * nixternal goes and eats some chicago style pizza [01:30] Lex79: Been out for a little how is the Virtuoso 6.0.1 builds going? [01:32] Daskreech: I've no news for now [01:53] Lex79: ok [01:57] Lex79: line 181 and 182 in /usr/bin/pbuilder-dist, comment them out and pbuilder-dist works again [01:58] thanks :) === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [02:06] JontheEchidna: I'm looking at the outstanding merges. What's the deal with webkitkde? [02:07] The svn numbers are basically the same but the Debian version is 0.4 while Ubuntu is 0.1 [02:07] nixternal: I severely miss alt+click when I'm not on Linux :( [02:09] seems they found a version number elusively hidden in some file somewhere [02:10] they forgot to put ~ before svn though. I just hope webkitkde doesn't decide to release as 0.4 :/ [02:11] epoch numbers are no fun [02:12] Riddell: Thanks for the qt4-x11 upload. I guess we'll know something in ~ 3 hours. [02:21] Lex79: I think the pbuilder issue isn't pbuilder related [02:21] if you google /dev/fd/62 you will see people experiencing the issue with a variety of different things [02:21] I am wondering if one of keybuk's updates (ie. mountall) might be the cause [02:24] nixternal: btw your trick doesn't work here [02:28] Lex79: yeah, it feels a bit deeper with the same /dev/fd/62 [02:28] I saw your thing [02:30] uhm yes latest update for puilder was 4 weeks ago, so you're right, the bug is related to other stuff [02:40] Lex79: I have the fix...testing it now [02:40] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/lucid/mountall/lucid/revision/252 [02:40] keybuk already knows about it [02:40] /dev/fd isn't being created currently on mounted, that change to /etc/init/mounted-dev.conf fixes it [02:40] I will tell you here in 1 minute [02:41] and it didn't [02:41] hehe [02:42] nixternal: is it being created? [02:42] not yet [02:57] Lex79: tmp fix is this -> 'ln -s /proc/self/fd /dev/fd' [02:57] a hack, but at least it works [03:00] anyone know if there is an easy way to have make in a pbuilder env use '-j5' or such? [03:00] kdebindings beta2 test build run 1 in effect [03:00] and that was quick [03:09] nixternal: DEBBUILDOPTS="-j5" in your .pbuilderrc [03:11] ahhh, that's the trick [03:16] damn libboost...snuck a quick one on me I see... :) [03:17] OK, kdebinding test build run 2 now in session [03:18] there is my libboost culprate right there [03:18] nixternal: You gotta use 1.40 [03:19] yeah, would have been nice if that was communicated somewhere :p [03:19] luckily I can read between the lines in pbuilder output [03:19] IIRC it's in /topic of the batcave [03:20] why not in here? that batcave is silly [03:20] TRANSPARENCY! [03:20] ;) [03:20] Because at the time we were doing the work on all the other packages, the tarballs weren't public yet. [03:21] Doesn't generally get used any other time. [03:21] it seems autoconnect doesn't connect to the bunker [03:21] so that is why I am not in there [03:22] and that invite shit is so enterthegame IRC server for Quake 3 clans 10 years ago [03:23] Hey, I just volunteer here. [03:23] haha [03:23] just bustin' your...hrmm, probably shouldn't say that [03:24] oh man, I went up to great mistakes today...holy cow man, it is so amazing the memories it brought back...I was over on the recruit side [03:24] scared teh shit out of some rickies [03:52] * nixternal hates kdebindings === Blizzz_ is now known as Blizzz [06:43] /wi9 [06:43] hrmm [08:04] Happy birthday mr Riddell [08:22] jussi01: aren't you a bit late on that one? [08:22] I thought it was yesterday :) [08:22] I forgot to say happy birthday, so Riddell here it goes...HAPPY BIRTHDAY!!! \o/ pretty soon you will have a walking device like ScottK :D [08:23] * nixternal goes to bed [08:27] nixternal: FACEBOOK SAID SO :D [09:25] Happy Birthday, Mr Riddell :) [09:26] hmm, not topic-locked, you could sneak it into the topic === Mamarok changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Happy Birthday, Mr. Riddell :) | Lucid Alpha 1 Released! | Kubuntu has the Doctor on the brain | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Oustanding merges: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~lucas/merges.html |Congratulations to Quintasan for becoming a MOTU [09:30] there you go :) === hunger_t is now known as hunger === zegenie_ is now known as zegenie [09:58] * almostxmaslogger pokes and hugs and gives Riddell the cuddles [09:58] Riddell: happy birthday :* [10:05] JontheEchidna: btw, /usr/share/kde4/config/aurorae.knsrc from kde-window-manager conflicts with kwin-style-aurorea (4.4b2) ... should look into that :P [10:06] hello [10:06] * Quintasan hands a package full of cookies to Riddell [12:31] the new miniprogram dialog is nice [12:35] but from the cashew in the corner it crashes my compiz :D [12:40] ScottK: ooh ooh it compiled! [12:47] ScottK: apparantly the correct syntax would be unix:!mac:*-g++*:!equals(QT_ARCH, powerpc):QMAKE_LFLAGS += -Wl,--gc-sections [12:47] question is do we want to risk it now that we have another solution [12:49] Personally, I'm relucant to mess with it, but I can see how having a patch that's only applied on on arch could be problematic for maintainability. [12:50] Riddell: How about update in bzr for now and then we do that after all the KDE stuff is built? [12:51] ooh, kde4libs is compiling [12:54] Yep. [12:55] nixternal: Get anywhere with bindings? [13:06] morning [13:06] happy bday Riddell... did I miss it? [13:06] :) [13:07] How do I fix kigo if bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:ubuntu/kigo": kigo in ubuntu has no default branch. [13:07] ooh thanks rgreening [13:07] Old fashion way? [13:07] Riddell: Happy birthday :) [13:07] ryanakca: wrong way around [13:07] lp:kigo/ubuntu [13:07] o.o Happy Birthday how old ?? :) [13:07] Riddell: Ah, thanks [13:08] ryanakca: well assuming there's a kigo product [13:08] ghostcube: 28! [13:08] bzr: ERROR: Invalid url supplied to transport: "lp:kigo/ubuntu": No such project: kigo [13:08] :O hehe [13:08] ryanakca: you want the magic importing stuff? [13:08] Riddell: I don't really care, I just want to add a recommends to kigo, whichever way is easiest :) [13:09] ryanakca: apt-get source kigo, edit, make debdiff and send to whoever's uploading [13:10] Riddell: OK [13:11] ryanakca: Isn't kigo part of kdegames? [13:12] You have to do all the bzr stuff by source package, not binary package. [13:12] For that you want ~kubuntu-members/kdegames/ubuntu [13:14] Riddell: happy bday, I sent you cookies but I don't think they arrived ;) [13:22] ooh cookies [13:31] Could someone with upload access upload from lp:~kubuntu-members/kdegames/ubuntu please? Diff : http://paste.ubuntu.com/345911/ [13:34] something I have upload access to :) [13:35] * Quintasan gives cookies to JontheEchidna [13:35] well cookies for everyone [13:35] * Quintasan gives cookies to everyone [13:36] * JontheEchidna om noms [13:37] ryanakca: As long as it's in bzr, I think that's the kind of change that can wait for the next upload. [13:44] hmm anyone knows how can I get Kubuntu Lanyard? They are sold it store but only with Share the spirit kit :/ [13:44] -it [13:44] oh nvm, found it [13:47] damn, shipping costs three times the lanyard :/ [14:32] JontheEchidna: Any idea why http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/NBS/konqueror-plugins ? [14:37] improper merge [14:38] the konqueror-plugins binary transitional package got removed [14:40] fixing, btw [14:42] ugh, the bzr vcs fields got removed in the merge too [14:44] I guess a chat with the merger is in order. [14:51] Riddell: ping [14:51] (but happy birthday too :) [14:53] hi JontheEchidna [14:53] thanks [14:54] no prob, uploading a fix [14:54] oh, thanks for the birthday bit [14:54] anyways, just to let you know, there were a few things wrong with the konq-plugins merge [14:55] I believe we still have a konqueror-plugins package from hardy, so the binary transitional package shouldn't have been removed [14:55] also the vcs entries disappeared [14:55] those two were part of the same block in the diff so I must have missed that block [14:56] I guess that this is my Christmas present to you? :D [14:56] birthday present! no christmas presents until tomorrow :) [14:57] * ScottK knows how that is. [14:57] * ScottK has a birthday in 4 days. [14:57] * ScottK cannot begin to count how many times he's gotten presents "Merry Christmas and Happy Birthday". [14:58] Not that I'm bitter or anything. [15:02] lol [15:04] Can anyone give me a reason why I'm being made to wear a suit and a tie? [15:04] @_@ [15:05] * Quintasan looks around for his hat. [15:05] Perfect. :D [15:14] you bitter? no way! [15:14] must go finish my x-mas shopping before everything closes... [15:14] :) === santiago-ve is now known as Guest15538 === santiago-ve is now known as Guest78589 [16:44] merry Christmas === santiago-ve is now known as Guest66540 [17:08] ScottK: got nowhere with bindings...I did get somthing though [17:08] oh, it was a few more gray hairs [17:08] I tried a patch from fedora, no good, tried trunk, no good....need to figure out the undefined references [17:13] nixternal: Good luck. BTW, the other place the boost thing was published was the ubuntu-devel-announce ML. If you aren't on that one, you should be. [17:14] ScottK: heh, you are right, it is there :) === santiago-ve is now known as Guest27535 === m4v_ is now known as m4v [18:02] * maco makes note to self regarding ScottK's birthday [18:02] ScottK: 28 dec, you say? [18:02] Yup. [18:03] im just gonna not put a year in with that in kontact ;) [18:04] Scott is hardly the most elderly [18:05] crimsun: he's got a daughter id consider "my age-ish" so im not gonna ask [18:05] Not the most, but definitely on one end of the curve. [18:08] hm so no kontact tells me on the summary page.. today Riddell, tomorrow stepdad, tomorrow ex boyfriend, tomorrow nik, 28th scott [18:08] s/no/now/ [18:08] all these christmas babies! [18:08] summer marriages, pro'ly [18:08] sigh, spring [18:09] I need to do something about this ridiculous muscle memory === yofel_ is now known as yofel [19:00] aaaaaarrrrrrrrrrggh... [19:01] can anyone here get the videos here to work? http://yle.fi/elavaarkisto/?s=s&g=4&ag=90&t=510&a=8286 [19:09] jussi01: nope [19:09] hrrr [19:09] apparently works on ubuntu... [19:09] very frustrating [19:10] as Im trying to make it work for sari's parents where i just installed kubuntu. Ive got restricted extras, w32codecs and tried all manner of other things [19:11] nixternal: did it take you to the checklist? if so theres a link underneath to click [19:14] yes [19:14] and no go... :( [19:14] firefox had a red X, and the windows media player garbage had a ? [19:15] yeah, it checks for media player, but the link underneath says something like, "try anyway" [19:15] jussi01: have you tried mozilla-plugin-vlc or mozilla-mplayer? [19:15] nixternal: both [19:15] those have helped me in the past, though they don't work right now :) [19:15] its very frustrating [19:15] plus, I can't read the messages, but I can understand IE, Firefox, and Windows Media Player [19:15] Myrtti said its working on gnome... [19:15] nixternal: so you clicked the link underneth though? [19:16] let me try again [19:16] ok, clicked that link...says it is connecting to server [19:16] lets see.. [19:17] nixternal: using firefox? [19:17] yes [19:18] :( [19:18] i just dont understand this [19:18] oh man, I'm so full [19:19] the link won't even play in kaffeine, which tells me that they are using an asx codec that isn't in the w32codecs (yet?) [19:19] nixternal: but it works on gnome? [19:20] does it? [19:20] Myrtti says yes... [19:20] interesting [19:33] jussi01: I wonder if myrtti has some extra package that is making it work? I can't get it to work in Kubuntu (Karmic & Lucid), Debian w/ Xmonad (sid), nor Ubuntu (Karmic & Lucid) [19:34] nixternal: I can give you her package list if it helps...? [19:34] and it doesn't work in Fedora (KDE), openSUSE (KDE), Arch (KDE), Slackware (KDE) either [19:52] using what, xine, gstreamer? [19:54] oh shit, I got it playing in kaffeine jussi01 [19:55] jussi01: http://www.nixternal.com/files/itworks.png :) [19:55] * daskreech hugs his phonon working uber enabled (once you don't need visualisations) kaffiene [19:56] nixternal: You should have an option in the pastebin applet to upload to your own onwed site [19:56] jussi01: the problem is, the 195.248.86.140 URL times out, so you have to wait for it to hit the 2nd IP listed in the .asx file...I don't know if it times out or not, but one of the links in a REF in the .asx file does play [19:57] daskreech: that is not a bad idea actually [19:57] nixternal: So you are saying that Myrtti's computer has ....patience installed? [20:02] kaffeine will play it, nothing else will :/ [20:05] nixternal: is that phonon then, with xine? [20:06] Tm_T: I guess...I just installed kaffeine and it worked [20:06] roger [20:06] you tried other phonon-based players? (: [20:07] well, the .asx file is bogus, you have to open the asx file and grab the 2nd URL for it to work, but at least it plays [20:07] nixternal: typical, actually, I'm used to use script as launcher for those urls, which parses the right url and uses it [20:08] dragon works [20:08] http://194.252.88.103/player/50/33/503369_1.wmv <- that is the 2nd REF url in the .asx file that does work [20:09] what happens is mplayer grabs the .asx file and times out on the first link [20:09] perhaps giving usual --playlist switch might help [20:09] it didn't [20:09] I tried that first [20:09] roger [20:09] I downloaded the .asx file [20:10] mplayer isn't even playing the .wmv file [20:16] wow, this is stupid....check this out [20:16] [20:17] that is the contents of the .asx file right....the first REF, the .140 IP, doesn't work...so mplayer should try to go to the 2nd URL but it doesn't [20:17] now here is the contents of http://194.252.88.103/player/50/33/503375_1.wmv [20:17] [Reference] [20:17] Ref1=http://194.252.88.103/player/50/33/503375_1.wmv?MSWMExt=.asf [20:17] Ref2=http://10.1.1.86:80/player/50/33/503375_1.wmv?MSWMExt=.asf [20:17] nixternal: also typically those asf/asx files are not properly formatted, have seen it many times (: [20:17] yup [20:18] I have now learned how to play a local radio station that doesn't work either :) [20:22] whoa, kaffeine rocks...it even plays TV channels [20:23] nixternal: yes, yes it does.. [20:24] I got ot to open the link, kinda... pasting it in open link... but still why doesnt the plugin work? === maco changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Happy Birthday, Riddell :) | Lucid Alpha 1 Released! | Kubuntu has the Doctor on the brain | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Oustanding merges: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~lucas/merges.html |Congratulations to Quintasan for becoming a MOTU [20:37] nixternal: so, is there some way we can fix this? [20:50] jussi01: I have no clue [20:50] :/ [20:50] * jussi01 sighs... [20:51] I think bugs need to be filed though [20:51] but I don't know where [20:52] nor do I. Im trying to figure it all out.. [20:56] nixternal: suprising that kaffeine doesnt have any settings... [20:59] jussi01: the perfect app! [20:59] daskreech: no no... [21:00] anyways, Im off for a bit... [21:14] Are there any plans to package the virtuoso-server for the KDE 4.4 betas? [21:18] Bugsbane: Yes [21:18] daskreech: Nice. Thanks! [21:22] http://virtuoso.openlinksw.com/dataspace/dav/wiki/Main/VOSNews [21:22] When that updates again [21:45] Kate's 'Export to HTML' plugin is absolutely amazing! [21:46] I was being sarcastic btw..it is good though [21:47] :TOhtml [21:47] * nixternal goes and does something a bit more productive with the family possibly [22:08] * JontheEchidna migrates to the new lappy [22:09] JontheEchidna: Oooh it arrived? [22:39] oh [22:45] em [22:50] Merry Christmas, Cristmas Eve, and Happy Birthday!! [22:52] yay [22:55] Riddell: Happy Birthday :-* [22:55] JontheEchidna: new lappy? [22:55] yus! [22:55] Merry Christmas to all :) [22:55] * JontheEchidna is on live cd [22:56] * claydoh sends everyone cups of piping hot Wendy's chili and all the Double baconator sandwiches they can handle :) [22:56] JontheEchidna: so now you can build what you want? :) [22:56] I'm happy for you [22:56] yeah, just not upload :P [22:56] we'll get that fixed JontheEchidna [22:56] ahahha :D [22:56] Error 5: dependency not met: gawk not found in path [22:56] erm [22:57] I do not like quassel [22:57] it seems to not have a sysinfo script [22:57] ubuntu ships mawk, not gawk, by default [22:57] i didnt realize it had scripting support at all [22:57] yeah, I tried to do /sysinfo and it spit an error message out 20 times, then made me say that :/ [22:59] oh well, kubuntu should be done installing soon enough :) [23:16] merry christmas CET! [23:20] <_Groo_> hi/2 all [23:22] ~identica dent hello [23:22] kb9vqf: [23:22] hmm, no kubotu [23:22] :-) [23:22] <_Groo_> hey Riddell [23:22] <_Groo_> i did the package for virtuoso 5.0.12, its working like a charm [23:23] <_Groo_> unfortunatelly everytime i try to upload it to my ppa it stops at the last byte :( [23:23] cor [23:23] upload it somewhere else and we can put it into experimental PPA? [23:23] _Groo_: Cool :) [23:26] <_Groo_> Riddell: how can i create just the diff using the debuild? i could send you just the diff, with my quilt changes and the likes [23:30] <_Groo_> oh btw, akonadi is missing from system settings in beta2!!! [23:31] merry christmas everyone [23:32] <_Groo_> neversfelde: thanks, to you too [23:32] <_Groo_> neversfelde: akonadi missing from system settings in beta 2, and i have a virtuoso package :) [23:34] _Groo_: afaik was the akonadi kcm module removed by upstream, because it was to dangerous to mess up your system, but I do not have a reliable network connection atm, so I might be wrong :) [23:35] <_Groo_> neversfelde: ah ok, i can still configure it using the direct akonadi icon, but if they did it, it was a stupid call, system settings arent suposed to be messes with in the first place [23:36] <_Groo_> neversfelde: i only did a BIG package for virtuoso, since the idea would be to use it temporarily while debians wait for 6.0.1, what do you guys think? [23:40] _Groo_: debuild -S [23:40] debdiff .dsc .dsc [23:41] <_Groo_> Riddell: im trying to upload it again to my ppa, if im unsucessfull ill send you the diff via mail [23:43] oh but it's a new package so not debdiff [23:45] <_Groo_> Riddell: yeah :( thats the problem, well i can package my debian/ and send to you if the damn dput doesnt go anywhere [23:45] * _Groo_ wants a web based launchpad dput === Quintasan1 is now known as Quintasan [23:49] HURRR [23:51] anyone here has two displays configured? [23:52] Quintasan: yes [23:52] neversfelde: do you have one display connected via VGA port? I think this is related [23:53] Quintasan: yes, but I cannot test anything, because it is my desktop and it is far away [23:53] I guess this does not help :) [23:54] neversfelde: well, it goes like this, I have two screens, 23" and 17", the 23" is connected via DVI and 17" is connect via VGA. The problem is that the stupid X server treats the 17" as main screen and all windows I open appear there >_< [23:54] I tired setting the 23" as main screen in nvidia settings but it didn't help :/ [23:55] <_Groo_> btw anyone fixed the koffice-kde4 bug? [23:57] Quintasan: I have a NVIDIA card and I am using nvidia-settings for this [23:57] _Groo_: which bug? [23:58] hu [23:58] Happy birthday Riddell [23:58] neversfelde: but it's like X ignores it, every app I open pops out at the 17" screen which is just stupid since I marked the bigger one as default >_< [23:59] thanks neversfelde, with only two minutes to go :) [23:59] Quintasan: you can force every app to open at a special position [23:59] Riddell: :)